are you a hippie?

also, is soho's "hippychick" the best song ever?

The closest I come is appreciating that this ridiculous store exists in my town
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GQ4RyhHNREU/SHfGXwnmXlI/AAAAAAAAAWU/9oZJ6mXUn-k/s400/hippie_gypsy.jpg

Never self-identified (or heard of such a thing) as a noise-hippy, but I have to stake a claim to it, if only to ensure that such a fabulous social subgenre is actually extant by at least one member.

(A few months ago, some tween girls shouted "Hey hippy" from their SUV in the parking lot of the West Hills Pavillions - that's about the worst of my hair-borne social oppression these days.)

I once considered going w/my friend to a Rainbow Gathering in the hopes of getting free drugs but it was outweighed by my hatred of large groups of strangers, esp ones who seem like they're into touching other humans.

xp: headshops are amazing. the medical marijuana dispensaries in my town are too paranoid to do anything like that -- it's just a green cross and some cryptic name like "the healing compassion" (thc, geddit).

I do have a soft spot for headshops, esp the one in my hometown called DARK SHADDOWS (sic) which is Alice Cooper/juggalo-themed. THESE PIPES ARE FOR LEGAL HERBAL BLENDS ONLY

Sorry it is actually called SHADDOW DOMAIN (sic)
ALL PIPES ARE NOVELTIES ONLY 18+

now i'm sad it's not called DARK SHADDOWS

the kfc that got turned into a dispensary ("kind for cures"!):

http://la.curbed.com/uploads/kfc_pot.jpg

Guess it's better than check cashing/title loan places popping up in distinctively shaped abandoned fast food joints.

I am not a hippy.

I don't consider myself a hippy, though I do acknowledge a bit of inner hippyness.

I have long hair and smoke pot and like psych rock, so basically?

can you live in california and not be either a hippie or a douchebag i dunno

I have long hair and smoke pot and like psych rock, so basically?

so basically you're n3d

btw i use a plastic comb that has "get a haircut hippie" embossed on it

i'm not a hippie cause i don't show up whenever i need shit from you

I don't know. If you tend to define hippie solely by relation to drug culture, then no, I am not a hippie at all. I outgrew drugs (or drugs outgrew me.) But in terms of many other kinds of things (long hair, lack of fondness for washing, fondness for paisley clothes, organic cotton waistcoats made in Tibet by enslaved children, muesli, spending time in stone circles in Cornwall grooving on the ~vibe~, maaaaaan) yes, I'm a flaming fucken hippie.

If your idea of a hippie is Julian Cope, then yes, I'm a hippie. If your idea of a hippie is the Grateful Dead or Sufjan Stevens, fuck off, no, I am not a hippie.

there are a lot of different ways to define it I guess, but yeah I'd qualify for several of them tbh. have a really psychedelics-inspired outlook on things - for better or worse, used to even go to lots of Rainbow Gatherings and Dead shows (honestly the Dead are probably still one of my favorite bands ever, though I don't listen to 'em as much for the sake of other things, but I still tend to seek out a lot of music - noise/drone/psych/electronic/kraut/dub/house/techno/rave - for its transportive/ecstatic function), and have the politics more or less. haven't consumed much weed or psychedlics for a couple years now, but that's only because I did them so heavily for so long, I feel I absorbed whatever lessons/experience/perspective there were to get out of them.

I'm sort of a sales hippie.

i self-identify as some kind of special "noise hippie" and people just think i'm a pothead

hi dere

Yeah, noise hippie w esoteric tendencies. No real hippie clothes or hair tho. People don't think i'm a pothead but no one has ever not offered me weed in situations of weed.

Lol, no. I have never self-identified as a hippie and people would generally not think of me as one. There are some things that I am really "hippieish" about or so I've been told. It's mostly surrounding body stuff, women's health issues, childbirth/parenting, and some food stuff (vegetarian for 16 years try to eat a lot of unprocessed, organic, fair trade stuff). I also used to smoke a ton of weed but I don't really associate that with hippies anymore so idk.

Voted "i do not self-identify as a hippie, and no one would ever mistake me for one" although when I was a teenager there was no doubt about it and my personal i.d. is heavily informed by hippie activities and interests of my past. I don't live a very free-spirited lifestyle now though.

I was probably pretty uptight as a hippie back too, come to think of it, but then like, you know what? I need to get back to baltimore before classes start in two days and if you start setting off fireworks on mushrooms in the field next to this gas station you're going to get us all busted, you stupid fucks #phishtour

I've had that on my chest for 12 years.

/I have long hair and smoke pot and like psych rock, so basically?/

so basically you're n3d

Ahem. (Never have smoked pot, as was asked on the board I believe...)

I am a hippie like John Waters was a hippie.

Not a hippie, could never possibly be ID'd as one. Hippies and jam-band fans (the two are not 100% overlapping, though it's damn close) are the US cultural subgroup I would most happily see herded into camps and gassed. I'd live in an entire apartment building full of Juggalos before I'd spend a day with hippies. I had to put up with them for close to three years, when the magazine I was editing shared office space (and ownership) with Relix. At this point, years later, I can listen to the Grateful Dead (only 1969-70 Dead, mind you) without wanting to go on a killing spree, but Phish? The Disco Biscuits? Widespread Panic? All that music should count as war crimes, and the fans need a good stabbing.

Is there such a thing as a British hippie any more? A quintessential one that is, as opposed to a British hippie who kind of wishes they were American...?

Julian Cope.

(I kinda suspect Thom Yorke is a hippie at this point, too, but he might not count.)

xxpost Cos I don't think I could come up with a UK analogue for the type of person who listens to Phish, and those other bands mentioned upthread. Maybe those who go to all the festivals and dig lots of gypsy-punk and dubby-rock music...

Oh come one, Julian Cope's about 120 years old.

A lot of his hippie mates who post on the Modern Antiquarian aren't, though.

I had to put up with them for close to three years, when the magazine I was editing shared office space (and ownership) with Relix.

I did kinda wonder about that.

Seems like when I go to Brighton (or, specifically: Lewes) or Cornwall, British hippies completely still exist. Probably not in London any more, though.

^^ this is true.

I think the British hippie scene is more difficult to identify with music - there is a kind of trad indigenous hippy that's very folk-inflected, cropredy-goer maybe, but I suspect that strain is thinning out and it's more about new age/healing/energy than music genres. Strong throughout the south-west iirc, pockets elsewhere.

(ianah, not mistaken for one)

so basically you're n3d

i'm a ned like john waters is a ned

i self-identify as some kind of special "noise hippie" and people just think i'm a hipster

Not a hippie. Friends with lots of Deadheads and Phisheads and String Cheese Incidentheads and uggggghhh bleh.

As an aside, I love calling people hippies. In that old timey cantankerous 'outta my way hippy' way

And also, every time I read the Guardian, I think that UK hippie signifiers have become so mainstream as to not even attract notice.

But that depends on your definition of hippie. If it's "long hair, takes drugs, listens to jam bands" or if it's "beards, folk music, eats muesli, does yoga, reads George Monbiot columns" which used to be hippie but is now just, I dunno, upper middle class?

But yeah, not really a music-identified lifestyle.

x-posts

I mean, you want UK hippies, get all of Ed's friends gathered in one room for a barndance. HIPPIES.

It won't even be a room, it will be a self-knitted tent in an organic woodland glade somewhere on the upper Thames.

some of my earliest memories are of Dead concerts so my hippie lineage is pretty definite

also there is a fondness for smokables and certain new age sensibilities

Also wondering how much Thatcher-era and Criminal Justice Bill era clampdown on the new age traveller community changed the dynamics of who, in the UK, got to be "hippies" or who identified as such.

Sorry, I'm just interested in this. I am definitely the child of UK hippies.

I think that rebelling against the cretins I had to deal with on phish tour had the effect of steamrolling over a lot of the kinder, more spiritual parts of my nature that had led to me being attracted to hippies in the first place.

the cretins I had to deal with on phish tour

i believe the proper nomenclature is drainbows iirc

xxp

Yeah, that community - travellers, crusties, hunt sabs, etc - feel like the continuation of a certain sort of proper cpunter-cultural hippiness (but then also not, anarchopunk thing is anti-hippie?) . But post-1994 they're fewer in number I guess, and they're not talked about really, even though they're still having their festivals. (is that Jerusalem play that I missed relevant to this?) Agree, v interesting question, but I have to leave work.

Ah, I'm on the bus home so I can think about this.

Because I totally see crusties, new age travellers, squat punks as hippies continued.

But in the US - after the end of the Vietnam War, did US hippie culture have any political subtext at all?

Because stripped of the political content it just seems like some feelgood lifestyle thing, therefore was allowed to continue as essentially harmless. While UK hippies seemed to remain more politically motivated - and therefore the ones in VW buses going up and down the country following e.g. Hawkwind had to be ~stamped out~ in a way that Dead-followers really didn't?

I may be reading too much into this. Like many of the ideas went mainstream but the lifestyle had to be destroyed?

Crusties are still EVERYWHERE. Holding the torch for the noise hippies. Standing on street corners with their dogs. Backpacks covered in noise band patches.

Stealing pizza out of the Kroger dumpster.

I guess one could make the case that OWS is the modern political hippie event.

The new age influence of OG hippies has over the past few years gotten really trendy. Lots of kids into crystals, tarot cards, putting magic symbols on their CDs, etc. I call these people Fashion Witches.

The Witch House thread

i do not self-identify as a hippie, and no one would ever mistake me for one, but i secretly am one anyway

i guess i'll go with option 2

i don't self-identify as a hippie, but a couple of people have said i have a "'60s" look cuz i have big curly carole king hair and wear long, patterned dresses sometimes. i'm not going for any particular style though, just a "low-maintenance" look. maybe i'm a "noise hippie" -- but i'm more into xanax and hard liquor than weed.

sorry for all the quote marks there.

that post reads like a zagat review.

i'm the hippest

But in the US - after the end of the Vietnam War, did US hippie culture have any political subtext at all?

c. 1975-80 it seems like the focus became anti-nuclear, at least where I was living

(not a hippie but grew up with them)

i bear some psychologically hippie traits, but i do not self-identify as a hippie, and no one would ever mistake me for one
at least no one ever has so far

I'm considering buying some incense due to this thread though.

not a hippie, would not be mistaken for one.

what is the most hippie variety of incense?

nag champa? patchouli? what.

sage

bay leaf

what is a noise hippie? is that me?

i listen to folk music, wear t-shirts that say things like "make love not war" and - uh - other hippy accoutrements. but i don't think i'm a hippy. maybe a yupster?

get bent going back to the vault w/ the noise hippie one

ARE YOU A TRIPSTER?!?!?! OMG WTF LOL

it seems like there is sort of a gradual merging of hippie and crusty punk culture here, as far as i can tell the main differences between rainbow family kids and crusty punk kids are 1) drugs vs alcohol 2) jam bands vs punk 3) leeching off suburbanites vs begging on streets 4) feed squirrels vs have dogs

first GIS result for "noise hippie"

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/134/325658190_19b14afebf.jpg

i've got a HUGE beard going these days too

i should WDYLL it b4 i shave next week

not a hippie, would not be mistaken for one.

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:36 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't Mr M4tts0n scream at you for walking like a goddamn hippie during "The Sound of Music" rehearsals?

i don't know anybody my age who *isn't* into holistic health, yoga, nature, green tea, etc in san diego, even my mormon friends are into new-age-y feel good lifestyle stuff, but i think that some things you might call feel good lifestyle choices can be at least as transformative as congregating in streets and fighting the man once you reach a critical mass of people making those choices

(1) you must shamelessly own a record by the Grateful Dead, Rush, or Yes

yup

(2) guys must have a beard; girls, cut your own hair

i have cut my own hair before, to disastrous results

(3) you live in an industrial space with a cat

i live in an apartment building that charges a $500 pet deposit and i'd rather have the $500 than the cat

(4) your idea of bonding is dancing in a circle (in a nonsexual way) with your male friends

dancing in a circle sounds too much like an awkward junior high school prom

(5) you like really freaked-out new music like Maurice Fulton's MU project and microhouse

i like freaked out "new music"

(6) you like Sonic Youth but you hate modern-day jam bands

sonic youth is a jam band. lee ranaldo = major deadhead.

(7) you prefer your natural smell to deodorant

i prefer my natural smell to certain cheap, perfumey deodorants. i like a good unscented antiperspirant.

(8) you won't wear designer tennis shoes but you will wear clothes your fashion designer friends have made

i don't have fashion designer friends.

(9) you secretly can do the dance moves from Soul Train but you would never admit to having "moves"

i'm an OK dancer.

(10) you like Chappelle's Show (actually, forget that one – who doesn't like Chappelle's Show!)

i do, but i'm not convinced it's held up all that well.

nag champa? patchouli? what.

― how's life, Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:38 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Both those. I hate them so much. Gah.

maybe a yupster?

I think you are a Yippie.

not a hippie, would not be mistaken for one.

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:36 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't Mr M4tts0n scream at you for walking like a goddamn hippie during "The Sound of Music" rehearsals?

― keeping things contextual (DJP), Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:04 PM (22 minutes ago)

ok, i have been mistaken for one by a dumb drunk fuck

hahaha

(1) you must shamelessly own a record by the Grateful Dead, Rush, or Yes

lol good lord no

(2) guys must have a beard; girls, cut your own hair

i have cut my own hair before, to disastrous results

(3) you live in an industrial space with a cat

Apartment with a dog

(4) your idea of bonding is dancing in a circle (in a nonsexual way) with your male friends

do pits count?

(5) you like really freaked-out new music like Maurice Fulton's MU project and microhouse

no

(6) you like Sonic Youth but you hate modern-day jam bands

yes

(7) you prefer your natural smell to deodorant

yes but I still wear deodorant because I am not a savage

(8) you won't wear designer tennis shoes but you will wear clothes your fashion designer friends have made

i don't have fashion designer friends. and I would totally wear designer sneakers

(9) you secretly can do the dance moves from Soul Train but you would never admit to having "moves"

i'm an OK dancer.

(10) you like Chappelle's Show (actually, forget that one – who doesn't like Chappelle's Show!)

just rewatched the entire series from start to finish this month.

lol what a dumb list

I'm not sure what this is measuring but I like taking tests.

(1) you must shamelessly own a record by the Grateful Dead, Rush, or Yes

I own Yes records, yes.

(2) guys must have a beard; girls, cut your own hair

Yes.

(3) you live in an industrial space with a cat

No. But I have painted giant paisleys all over the walls?

(4) your idea of bonding is dancing in a circle (in a nonsexual way) with your male friends

I have been known to dance in a circle with my friends, yes. With a symbolic handbag in the middle.

(5) you like really freaked-out new music like Maurice Fulton's MU project and microhouse

I also like freaked out "new music"

(6) you like Sonic Youth but you hate modern-day jam bands

What era Sonic Youth? But mostly yes.

(7) you prefer your natural smell to deodorant

Yeah but I use the stuff anyway coz I hate sweating.

(8) you won't wear designer tennis shoes but you will wear clothes your fashion designer friends have made

Um, what is a designer tennis shoe? Indeed, what is a tennis shoe? I don't play tennis.

(9) you secretly can do the dance moves from Soul Train but you would never admit to having "moves"

I dance like a fucken hippie. This is the place where my otherwise secret hippiedom most obviously comes out.

(10) you like Chappelle's Show (actually, forget that one – who doesn't like Chappelle's Show!)

I don't know know who Chappelle is or what their show is?

I don't understand what chappelle's show has do with hippies.

I used to prefer my natural smell to deodorant. oh yes. then, on my second day on the job at applebee's, the assistant manager pulled me into his office and said "I've never had to tell anyone this before, but we've been getting some complaints..."

(1) you must shamelessly own a record by the Grateful Dead, Rush, or Yes

2112 FOR LYFE

(2) guys must have a beard; girls, cut your own hair

I have a goatee, close enough

(3) you live in an industrial space with a cat

lol nope

(4) your idea of bonding is dancing in a circle (in a nonsexual way) with your male friends

in theory? these days it's more "clustering around a computer playing tracks on Spotify while drinking"

(5) you like really freaked-out new music like Maurice Fulton's MU project and microhouse

freaked out music like microhouse? lol SO EDGY

(6) you like Sonic Youth but you hate modern-day jam bands

I like Sonic Youth and MMW

(7) you prefer your natural smell to deodorant

what, no gross

(8) you won't wear designer tennis shoes but you will wear clothes your fashion designer friends have made

what, no gross (plus my designer friend only makes women's clothing and that is a road I have yet to travel)

(9) you secretly can do the dance moves from Soul Train but you would never admit to having "moves"

WTF I WEAR MY SOUL TRAIN MOVES LIKE A BADGE OF HONOER </notwhite>

(10) you like Chappelle's Show (actually, forget that one – who doesn't like Chappelle's Show!)

someone get me a knife

haha i was going to specifically mention 2112 in my first answer lol

this is the thread where we reveal that we're all into rush, yes, and the dead.

there's a poll idea! rush v yes v the dead.

both awful

oh man

I gut went RUSH and then thought about Yes for a bit

but still, RUSH

alright there are two dead songs that I think are not awful

Yes, yes, but Rush and the Dead? GTFO.

Hawkwind 4 LYFE.

yes is the best by a long shot followed by dead and rush way behind, though they all have a good early catalog and a horrendous post-fame one

1) all three
2) sometimes, usually i shave clean and let it go for a week or two
3) in the past, now i'm in a midcentury ranch w/ a little dog
4) yes
5) yes
6) yes (drone rock / space rock / shoe gaze = another type of jam band)
7) yes but i do wear unscented natural tea tree deodorant
8) assuming adidas and nike and new balance aren't designer then yes (i wear clothes my fashion designer friends have made)
9) no, i do those moves in public all the time
10) yes

RUSH vs. YES vs. THE GRATEFUL DEAD

rush is way behind, not the dead, they're somewhat behind

(1) you must shamelessly own a record by the Grateful Dead, Rush, or Yes

no, yes, no

(2) guys must have a beard; girls, cut your own hair

I have a beard because i am fucking lazy and also some sort of manimal

(3) you live in an industrial space with a cat

house, dog cat so

(4) your idea of bonding is dancing in a circle (in a nonsexual way) with your male friends

haha no fucking way

(5) you like really freaked-out new music like Maurice Fulton's MU project and microhouse

i think yes but not whatever those are

(6) you like Sonic Youth but you hate modern-day jam bands

hate both so nyes?

(7) you prefer your natural smell to deodorant

haha no

(8) you won't wear designer tennis shoes but you will wear clothes your fashion designer friends have made

are new balance designer i dont understand please rephrase the question

(9) you secretly can do the dance moves from Soul Train but you would never admit to having "moves"

ha if you can call the shit i do moves idk sort of. eh

(10) you like Chappelle's Show (actually, forget that one – who doesn't like Chappelle's Show!)

what is this about again

1) you must shamelessly own a record by the Grateful Dead, Rush, or Yes

WEEE ARE THE PRIESTS
OF THE TEMPLE
OF SYYYYRINX

(2) guys must have a beard; girls, cut your own hair

fuck cutting my own hair.

(3) you live in an industrial space with a cat

fuck off. YOU live an industrial space with a cat.

(4) your idea of bonding is dancing in a circle (in a nonsexual way) with your male friends

i don't understand this 'dancing in a nonsexual way'.

(5) you like really freaked-out new music like Maurice Fulton's MU project and microhouse

? wtf.

(6) you like Sonic Youth but you hate modern-day jam bands

I like old Sonic Youth, don't make me beat you.

(7) you prefer your natural smell to deodorant

I would if I didn't have natural bo. Deodorant it is.

(8) you won't wear designer tennis shoes but you will wear clothes your fashion designer friends have made

I hope designer tennis shoes doesn't mean like those Coach-print Keds or some bullshit. I don't have any fashion designer friends.
I wear clothes my capitalist privilege has afforded me.

(9) you secretly can do the dance moves from Soul Train but you would never admit to having "moves"

secretly? fuck you. who keeps that a secret.

(10) you like Chappelle's Show (actually, forget that one – who doesn't like Chappelle's Show!)

yes I do but I wish i didn't solely based on the tone of this question.

1) you must shamelessly own a record by the Grateful Dead, Rush, or Yes
all three, no shame

(2) guys must have a beard; girls, cut your own hair
Only cut my own hair if there's something stuck in it or if there's another equally good reason.

(3) you live in an industrial space with a cat
allergic to cats, live in an apartment with two dogs and one human as one happy family

(4) your idea of bonding is dancing in a circle (in a nonsexual way) with your male friends
what?

(5) you like really freaked-out new music like Maurice Fulton's MU project and microhouse
i really like freaked out new music, prefer Zu to MU. don't know much about microhouse.

(6) you like Sonic Youth but you hate modern-day jam bands
depends on what you mean by "jam bands" -- i like some bands that jam but don't think i like "jam bands"
i like SY but not obsessively
don't hate anything

(7) you prefer your natural smell to deodorant
yeah for the most part, if i have a choice, but will conform with the norm when necessary

(8) you won't wear designer tennis shoes but you will wear clothes your fashion designer friends have made
i wear whatever i please

(9) you secretly can do the dance moves from Soul Train but you would never admit to having "moves"
open about my moves, no secrets there. this is stupid.

(10) you like Chappelle's Show (actually, forget that one – who doesn't like Chappelle's Show!)
have never seen, would watch i guess?

am i a hippie? how do we grade this quiz?

I must be the smelliest person on this board. It helps that certain early medical complications resulted in a life-long deadening of my sense of smell. Does help with drinking cheap liquor tho!

I own Dead, Yes, and Rush, but they were all inherited from mom, who was a member of the official DeadHeads record club. I don't listen to any of them though. My dad instilled in me a great dislike of the Dead and I have to admit hating them just feels natural.

At any rate I really got into Zappa late in HS and it was more or less the end of my hippie phase. I preferred to be called a Freak. His disdain for hippies seemed to come from seeing it as just a youth fashion statement, which it was in the 60s and still is today. For the most part. And now when i hang out with people that all sit in circles and talk about spirit animals, I can see it has nothing to do with them being spiritual or decent people.

Hippies, punk, crusties, etc., it's all a good way to get into a pre-defined clique and not have to think for yourself.

Plus hearing horror stories from my folks (who were probably late-OG hippies at one point) about acid trips that ruined people, in-fighting in communes, etc. I suppose it is good to at least be idealistic, even if things turn to crap.

tbf getting into predefined cliques and not thinking for yourself can be comforting, cf packs of wolves and tribes of gorillas

everything in the 60s turned to shit by the end, not just hippies

i mean there might have been people in the 70s who were like "thank god i didn't drop out, and i cut my hair short and went to vietnam and came back to my safe auto industry job in detroit" but i think pretty much everyone was feeling shitty by the time the 70s rolled around

Not a hippie. Do not aspire to be more laid back, do not aspire to love more people, can't stand music that doesn't know where it's going and then get there within 4 minutes.

what about music that knows it's going TO THE HEART OF THE SUN

i think the best and worst thing about zappa is his acid wit

yeah it's lame to hang out w/ jocks and cheerleaders and yeah it's lame to be a fashion statement hippie but there's gotta be a more productive way to be a freak than to sit on the sidelines and mock the squares

that said i have a lot of pride in zappa because he's also a san diegan and his first car was a dilapidated 50s bread truck

i heard he bought it off beefheart's dad!

my parents were '70s/'80s hippies; they were straight in the '60s and then got bored, started following folk music and joined the environmental movement. by the time the '90s rolled around they went straight again. but they raised me as a counterculture kid, which i didn't always appreciate.

this sounds like so many people i know, like their parents were nuclear scientists w/ big wyndham hill collections and pipes in the closet

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O0S5PgEFufs/TihGI_FXi5I/AAAAAAAACCA/sXtJX9qLUvc/s1600/HelmsBakery2.jpg

something like this

picture the furry freak brothers rolling down the street in that

i think he talks about it in the ruben and jets liner notes

love that truck. i would finish learning how to drive if it meant i could have a truck like that.

get a job, hippies.

heh. i went on an interview yesterday and was trying really hard not to make my ideas sound too esoteric or idealistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZccMqwv0TA

(A few months ago, some tween girls shouted "Hey hippy" from their SUV in the parking lot of the West Hills Pavillions - that's about the worst of my hair-borne social oppression these days.)

then there was that time at the la monte young/marian zazeela dream house when someone asked you if you were in sunburned hand of the man.

compliment imo

i burn incense, eat exclusively vegan indian food, take shrooms, listen to new age music, have a beard and long hair, but i would never identify myself as a hippie. i picked "special noise hippie".

This incense thing is a red herring. The two biggest consumers of incense in my social circle are 1) GOTHS and 2) priests

mmm vegan indian food

it is delicious.

if you go to hindu parts of india it's mostly vegan, right?

Stop it, you're making me hungry.

FOR HIPPIES.

i wonder how many of the "veganistas" in my neighborhood realize that if they cut out the vegan cupcakes they'd be on the global subsistence diet of basic pulses

i've come to a conclusion: i am not a hippie.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Indian food rules! I hate how some people are afraid of it just because it's "vegetarian food". Also can I say that curried sweet potatoes are unbelievable!

not a hippie and would never be mistaken for one, but yes, soho's "hippychick" is indeed the greatest song of all time

It's very good.

says a hippie

late great, a lot of vegetarian Indian food is v dairy-heavy! but some is vegan.
says a vegan who used to drive a VW bus in high school and had long hair
never smoked weed tho, or had a legit prog phase
I'm p hippiesh for a square tho

i thought the dairy heavy stuff was to Indian food as like orange chicken is to Chinese food but maybe i'm out of it

like i thought people in India basically eat dal most of the time

Krsna food is great, just wondering if the restaurant in London was a victim of the redevelopment around the bottom of Oxford St/Tottenham Court Rd.
Could do with an outlet here, I guess there is a stall on the market but its hardly the same thing.

Has any major talent accomplished less in his days since being in one of the greatest bands of all time than Robbie Robertson? It can't be a coincidence that his creative well essentially dried up the second the Band broke up.

^^^ If I can recall, she was doing some charity type work in Honduras. I think she even adopted a little girl from there as well.

/She threatened to quit prior to the recording of "FanMail," and was reportedly infuriated that none of the eight songs she had written for the album made the final cut. Presumably there are demos of these somewhere, or even finished mixed versions that just didn't get released./

Also, I don't think any of those TLC demos she wrote for FanMail ever leaked except one I believe. Here is the 2000's version of it:

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It's too bad because she was what made the first album so memorable, and the raps she did thereafter were great as well. I believe her rap on "Waterfalls" is what makes that song spectacular. She is never talked about when the topic of female MC's come up which is strange.

Also, her first solo single just because:

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P.S. What the fuck is wrong with early ILM posers? Seriously, I'm glad they rarely post because that is just fucked up beyond snark. That's cruelty up thread.

I can't stand this dude so much that when my mom and sister were talking about enjoying him I was grinding my teeth

although that 'Grenade' song is so over-the-top emotional it's almost hilarious. I like to think he's singing "I'd drink lemonade, for yaaaaaaa" really dramatically

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Uh, not sure what happened there. Please accept my apologies for interrupting this perfectly pleasant thread about hippies

hah was left eye a hippie?

u tell me

http://addictedtovinyl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/1987_randeeoftheredwoods_02-300x182.jpg

can't believe softspool is a hippie

http://www.hippieshop.com/mas_assets/thumb/5061.jpg

our neighbor who thinks we're hippies flashed a peace sign at us the other day.

that's hilarious

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

i wanna know who voted "i self-identify as a hippie, and people commonly identify me as one"

i'm "the hollywood hippie":

http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/responsible-living/stories/the-hippie-continuum-what-level-hippie-are-you

tuomas

nickalicious, hoos and ed

i thought the dairy heavy stuff was to Indian food as like orange chicken is to Chinese food but maybe i'm out of it

No way.

Plenty of Indian meat dishes too!

i like himalayan cuisine

have i told my sherpa joke?

http://www.himalayancuisineone.com/

i just assumed most people couldn't afford stuff like chicken makhani

realized i might be a hippie this morning -- eating granola w yogurt, listening to the dead (paris 74 -- my fave version of 'to lay me down'.) and smoking grass all at the same time.

sounds like heaven. i must be a vicarious hippie then.

Yeah last week i climbed up a mountain and then did yoga on the top while my friend meditated.

After going to Glastonbury this past weekend I have decided that actually I fucking hate hippies. ;_;

noise hippie/pothead

If your idea of a hippie is the Grateful Dead or Sufjan Stevens, fuck off, no, I am not a hippie.

Whose idea of a hippie is Sufjan Stevens??

I do not identify as a hippie. I have, at various points in my life, had long hair, smoked weed, eschewed meat, practiced yoga, and championed ultra-liberal causes. But I don't dress in typical hippie apparel, am far from a nature/outdoors buff, and in general am probably too much of a cynical urban intellectual to wholly get down with the hippie spirit.

so you're a self hating hippie

Basically.

I'm not white

i'm the los angeles version of the hippie. i dress like rachel zoe but am deeply shallow.

oh come on, you're only superficially shallow

"i am a deeply superficial person." - andy warhol

i think i'm just a pothead tbh

no one is white ... or black, or any color

we're all rainbows maaaaaan

we should have a vote for biggest hippie on ilx

when did ilx turn into woodstock btw

Been thinking about hippies a lot lately, lots of disorganized thoughts as below; reading the threads including this and this...

Hippies C or D

Bonus tracks on Linda Perhacs album with her speaking, she has the ultimate hippie voice.

Guy from Amon Duul II saying "I'm still a hippie".

Robert Plant in a documentary saying that old hippies keep their long hair because they are proud of what they were a part of. I never had considered him a hippie before.

Is Alan Moore the only famous hippie writer?

Saw a documentary about Glastonbury with travelling travelling hippies protesting against government in the 80s. Was surprised that most of them looked half hippie/half punk hybrids.

I saw The Enid last year and the bandleader Robert John Godfrey (not all that hippie seeming for an old prog rocker) said he felt the time was right for hippies to rise again, learn from their past mistakes and try to accomplish the dream again.

There was an amazing tumblr page devoted to hippie imagery, I really wish I knew the name of it. A lot of people have been saying how aesthetically disastrous hippies were but there was loads of great stuff (a lot of it very pagan looking), lots of amazing hippie huts and cool clothes.

Paul Rudd was an adorable hippie in Our Idiot Brother. After reading responses some people said he's like a younger Dude from Big Lebowski but I doubt Dude was ever that cheery.

I've barely ever seen real hippies in real life. Glasgow used to have deluded people in the streets handing out texts for their ridiculous new religions, I heard a lot of them were thieves; but they were replaced by charity people, some of whom look a bit hippyish.

I know that lots of hippies are naive, prone to conspiracy theories, nutty belief systems and hypocrisy but I've never understood why they are so violently loathed when there are so many worse types of people that are less likely to have their excellent individuals. Way more of them in America?

I'm interested in that idea that hippy ideas have been mostly absorbed into general liberal thought/ways. Is it possible that without 60s hippies we'd be living in a hellish 50s nightmare?
I think in Wire magazine there was someone saying that there were truly great hippies who did great things and should never be dismissed. Is there any books about what the hippies did for us? Should there be more appreciation of that era?

it all sounds great until someone smokes a baby

bob margolin talking about behind the scenes shit during the band's last waltz concert (http://bobmargolin.com/the-last-waltz/):

I’m told that there was a backstage cocaine room, with a glass table and a “sniff-sniff” tape playing, but I never saw it. I did, however, see through Rolling Stone Ron Wood’s nearly-transparent prominent proboscis in profile. In the “green room,” Neil Young passed me a joint, smiling, “We’re all old hippies here.” Though I was 27, something about “old hippies” resonated with me for the future. Young was older than me by a few years and even had a couple of gray hairs then

no one would mistake me for a hippie and i don't fully identify as one but i admire them and am glad they exist for the art, music, drugs, and vibes

for a horrible moment I thought that Michael Gove's Hippies vs Punks article was no longer available online, thankfully someone has transcribed it here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.politics.misc/o7RknBfogUU

i didn't really understand that article. for the most part i've always identified more w/ hippies than w/ punks though

I have a great book called "What The Doormouse Said", which is about acid culture's influence on the birth of the personal computer. It's pretty fascinating, some research facilities even had their engineers design circuits while they were tripping. And on down the line, the hippie dreams of no private property and no countries is slowly but surely becoming a reality with the internet.

But hippies suck, mainly because they are convinced their shit doesn't stink. Everyone else's does though.

If a hippie does something wrong and you confront them, the conversation is instantly steered turns to your attitude. You are the one with the bad vibes, you just need to change your perspective. The hippie does not need to consider your feelings because they are bad. Essentially what the hippie does is right, because he is always right, because he leads such an enlightened life. This enables the hippie to avoid change and enjoy complete and total self-indulgence.

I am almost, but not quite, old enough to have been among the original hippies in 1967. I was handicapped by the fact I was only 13. There was a time during the 70s when I might possibly have been mistaken for one. I might even have mistaken myself for one, depending on just how disaffected I felt that day. Nowadays? Not even the remotest chance.

old/o.g. hippies can be cool, post-jamband era hippies are the worst tho

guess i see "hippie" as a bunch of different things, less so a specific group of people. i see it more as an ethos or way of life, they way some people view "punk." because i could easily caricature spiked hair ammunition-belted tight-jeans punks in the same way many people do hippies

i mean, both those groups are kind of assholes, a phish concert isn't really what i think of as hippies when i say i admire hippies

i more think of people like ina may watkins and the rest of the folks who started the farm, people who launched the organic food movement, the spiritual seekers who did a lot to bring yoga into the US. i see a contemporary hippie ethos in people like sandor ellix katz

a phish concert isn't really what i think of

and yet, this is one of the only groups of people who will self-identify as hippies (the other being old actual first-gen 60s hippies)

i more think of people like ina may watkins

ooooooooooops this should be ina may GASKIN. no idea where watkins came from

i think of "old hippies" as different from "hippies".

old hippies are rusticated die-hard libs prone to open-toed footwear. they live in the country with solar panels half built in the yard and watercolors/muffins for sale at the farmer's market. they seem pretty okay.

hippies are either college kids who smoke a lot of pot and wear hemp clothing or townies who smoke a lot of pot and wear whatever it is they wear. both unnerve me.

wonder what the ILX consensus on freaks is

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Freak_Brother_No_1.jpg

idk if anyone younger than 50 identifying as a hippie in 2014 is a ~real hippie~ in that it's mostly a group that's strongly linked with certain signifiers but without any real political or philosophical stance

I know people who definitely are hippie-ish but they're more back-to-earth types, interested in political causes and nonconformance to the status quo

without any real political or philosophical stance

when was this ever an actual requirement for being a hippie? it's a cultural label, all that's required are the signifiers.

re: Spectrum I am PRO-FREAK

Never found much talk about the death metal hippie but I've heard metaphysics saying it is a real thing.

Some of Athiest and Cynic. Cynic's "Sentiment" is gloriously hippyish.
http://www.elyrics.net/read/c/cynic-lyrics/sentiment-lyrics.html

<3 FFFB. Hippies are the commodified/trendy version of freaks imo.

Is FFFB good? A lot of underground comix are looking pretty dodgy to most eyes today. Sometimes "oh shit! It's the cops! Get the drugs and run!" was the whole joke, among other lame counter culture jokes and ideas.

yeah they're good

although yeah obviously the "oh shit! it's the cops! get the drugs and run!" joke plays a central role

I've read that Robert F Jones coined the term "hippie".

I haven't actually read much FFFB but I have a few cos Paul Mavrides was friends w a relative of mine so I ended up inherited a bunch of Rip Off Press and Subgenius stuff. My favorite is "Cover Up Lowdown", which is a great collection of JFK-era conspiracies. There is a bit of warning about the surveillance state and the things that have recently come out about the NSA are actually far scarier than the most paranoid delusions of underground comics artists.

http://marswillsendnomore.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/cover-up-the-lowdown-from-rip-off-press/

it's stoner humor. the joke on that cover is that the cops are inside the puff of smoke, so it's like they're high and paranoid about cops chasing after them after a deal. which is relateable if you've ever bought weed sold in a box labeled "DOPE" that you carry around with you in public.