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gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

It won't stay fall here :( it keeps getting really warm

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

we already have the heaters out here. kitty spends a lot of time in the breadloaf position.

clouds, Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

I made a v intense stroganoff last night and decided I'd wait til morning to do most of the dishes and now it's morning and I've decided I don't really want to do the dishes at all :/

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

The heating came on in my house this morning and I had a shiver of delight. xp do the dishes right now now now

whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

but there's soooo maaaaany

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

sweaters, too hard to put on.

I think I did stumble upon the max comfortable sleeping position for my inflamed spine this morning, however.

Gonna make pancakes and dirty some dishes now. Stevie, plz come over. xo

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

though if I do go downstairs I will get to check off a box on my new CAT FEEDING CHART that I made and am way more into than I ought to be:

http://i.imgur.com/0DvGl.jpg

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh wow lolhueg!!!

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

good morning!

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

you have a kitler? xp

clouds, Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

I do! Her name is Lady

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

which is funny bcz she's not a lady; she's a cat.

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

the boy's roommate got a kitten a few weeks back and after a rough start, felix (kitten) and benoit (his year old cat) are best pals now. they run around playing all night and spend the day snuggling on chairs, cleaning each other, drinking out of the same water bowl and sleeping in sock drawers.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 23 September 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

I propose that Steve starts all new gay threads.

tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Sunday, 23 September 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

sure you're not describing you and the boy, Alex?

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

definitely. now that he's in his new apartment 25 minutes or so away by foot, i'm only there two or three times a week. this week is exceptional because i had friends stealing my couch and bed for pop montreal, but generally we've finally learned the concept of 'healthy space'

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 23 September 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

although, i suppose things are a lot better with us too? finally figuring out how functional relationships work, i think.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 23 September 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

h8 all of you with seasonal-appropriate weather, it is fuckin 95 here

TOP FEMALE LAWYER & CARTOONIST FOR 2011: (donna rouge), Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

It's been mostly nice here, but Seattle summer generally runs July-September.

The Reverend, Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

Back in school this fall for the first time in 7 years, working towards getting a Masters in English (using this semester to upgrade some courses and apply in January), and the back-to-school-ness has this feeling like my most proper fall in some time. Loving it.

(also, its 55 here today)

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

h8 all of you with seasonal-appropriate weather, it is fuckin 95 here

i dream of this... enjoy it!

jed_, Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

jf, congrats!

clouds, Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks! I kinda wish "going back to school" *didn't* mean "being completely unable to find non-shit employment for the last 7 years, and need to work towards something that'll mean the bf, our puppy and I won't have to keep living in a basement (and can start thinking about having children of the non-canine variety as well)," but as far as hopeful solutions to ongoing problems go, I'm really enjoying this one.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 24 September 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

need some JoGo pelvis-dance gifs here

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:48 (thirteen years ago)

what is a jogo

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mavs8jeA1c1qgrw1k.gif

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mavt2ttlgp1qcp4ue.gif

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)

xoxo

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 04:02 (thirteen years ago)

I really like the floor humping. I'm sure a few of you guys could do splendid cover versions.

I hope tabes got out of Folsom at some point...

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

I would do a covered version of that, sure.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

I just opened the door to my bedroom and found a plastic grocery bag on my door handle containing a green-and-gold striped jockstrap and knee high socks to match

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

!

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

a delivery from work?

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

It appears to be a gift from my roommate!!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

had no idea Morbs was a JoGo fan – too thin?

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Not anymore.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

My actual favorite one:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mavvtnXHIs1rur4uho1_500.gif

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

I actually thought he looked fine skinny; I'd still stick it in his dimples first.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

Oh my.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

that shitty biker movie makes him somewhat less attractive to me

clouds, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

See he even looked good dirty and skinny in that POS.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

so, not asking for TMI, but did you put the jock on?

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

His eyebrows are arch.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't seen the bike movie but Hesher was way more NAGL for him.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

see, I think of Hesher as a biker movie, P.Rush (didn't see it) as a bike movie

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think JGL is attractive at all

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

i'm def into JGL

lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

he's too movie star for me -- i feel the same way about, like, jake g & gosling

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

who isn't too movie star for you?

Gosling made his deal w/ the devil and mostly appears as a waxed mannequin in his hyped projects. I insure against feeling the same way about JGL by skipping most of his films.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Find JGL more cute than hot. Jake and Ryan are dreamy.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

JGL still looks like he has to be reminded to wear deodorant or change his underwear.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

as for Jake, he scored his biggest hit in years this weekend.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

who isn't too movie star for you?

ummmmmmmmm. james mcavoy.

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

OK, good choice!

Jake total cub-bait these days w/ his Broadway-role beard.

http://i2.cdnds.net/12/38/618x492/jake_gyllenhaal_16_wenn4090706.jpg

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Wouldn't mind a gay thread POX (or at least POO) celeb crush share session.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't attracted to Ryan til Drive (and Crazy Stupid Love, which I've only seen some amazing looking stills from). Jake was cute-not-hot in the Donnie Darko days but today seeing any one of his movies involves an internal struggle in favour of staring at him vs. not wanting to watch (mostly) crappy movies.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

xpost cub? pretty full on bear, no?

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

(Was nearly sold on seeing his new one til it turned out Ebert was the only one who liked it. Still, jake as cop...)

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Jake is the sort of person who'd get upset if I cheated on him with the Goose, even if all we did was kiss – that's why I keep my distance from Jake these days.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

I mean he should have a plethora of cubs panting at the stage door for him.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

Jogo's acting is hilarious. What accent is that? What are you even saying?

whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

It's wild to go back and watch 3rd Rock and hear that he once actually spoke words

whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

I think the word is a "horny" of cubs.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

JGL is ok. not crazy about jake's beard.

TOP FEMALE LAWYER & CARTOONIST FOR 2011: (donna rouge), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

so, not asking for TMI, but did you put the jock on?

I did and it actually fits v nicely!

Backstory: we were talking abt jockstrap night at the local leather bar and he said I should go in a jock w matching tube socks bcz it would be hilarious and ridic and I guess he found them somewhere and actually bought them for me! But I might be too scared to go!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Also correct answer is Ryan and Jake more so than JGL (who is still cute) and all of them w beard

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

just watched 'oslo, august 31st' the other day and anders danielsen lie is v pleasant in the face i think

http://image.qpicture.com/image/a/artist-anders-danielsen-lie/anders-danielsen-lie-307432.jpg

TOP FEMALE LAWYER & CARTOONIST FOR 2011: (donna rouge), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

agree, also wd rub his head a lot w/ that haircut

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

:3

clouds, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

unnnnnnnf, this guy sitting in here is so damn hawwwt. eyecandy alert.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

so how'd that turn out?

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, I think I gasped when Anders Danielsen first appeared on screen.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

armie hammer is another super good looking movie star who doesn't look "too movie star" for me

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

hahahaha @ "Armie Hammer", how is that someone's real name

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

OMG HIS ACTUAL FULL NAME IS ARMAND HAMMER

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i like even "average" looking irl people more than the "objectively" "hottest" celebrity in the world

clouds, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

i have now spent the past five minutes looking at the arm&hammer/armand hammer/armie hammer wikipedia entries

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

yeah. i keep hearing

ARRMIEE!

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100331015709/muppet/images/8/83/Piggy-yaaaay.jpg

free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:58 (thirteen years ago)

yeah the whole thing w/ his name is incredibly bizzare

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i like even "average" looking irl people more than the "objectively" "hottest" celebrity in the world

oh i def feel this

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

that's why I hate walking in public and being the cause of dead faints.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

why DO birds suddenly appear...?

J0rdan, I love McAvoy (except his film choices), but is it the Scottish teeth that grunge him up sufficiently?

Hey, I just had 2 ppl digging in my butt for 25 mins. Alas it was a biopsy.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)

loool but also :/

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:44 (thirteen years ago)

so how'd that turn out?

― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:39 PM Bookmark

I was working and I'm too professional to hit on customers, but goddamn. I saw him come in a week or so ago so maybe he'll become a regular. I had to avert my eyes cause the other choice was openly staring.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

ugh, Morbs, well wishes from my crusty corner

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:10 (thirteen years ago)

And today I'm on steroids, but I don't think I will feel like a Chelsea boy until my fourth dose.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Do those go up where fingers were yesterday?

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

No, pills, and I exaggerated; the fingers were more at the base of my spine. And picking up a pain narcotic later. Par-tee.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

wait, JGL turns out LITERALLY to be Robin in that Batshit? Ridiculous.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 03:09 (thirteen years ago)

fuck fuck fuck he's cooking for me at mine tonight and i foolishly offered to buy ingredients

potatoes and "some green veg"

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. what kind of potatoes?? what does "some green veg" mean in terms of EXACTLY WHAT TO BUY???? how do people cope with this on a regular basis?

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

buy a bag of kale or spinach.

clouds, Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

Buy 4 Yukon gold potatoes and maybe a pound of broccoli

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

can't go wrong with spinach imo. one bag should be enough for the two of you

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

I could be mistaken, but I think it's almost impossible to get the potato order wrong.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Just buy the most expensive green stuff and the least expensive potatoes

whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

spinach, asparagus, broccoli

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Splurge on organic.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Don't buy dynamite.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

You should arrive, put your feet on the table, and say, "Fuck this. You up for KFC?"

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Emily Post says: Skip dinner, head straight for dessert.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Miguel says: we could skip dinner, head straight for desert, woooaah.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

There are little plastic bags available, take one and put your kale / swiss chard / spinach in the bag, do not place bag over head

whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

food-prep disinterest a key to being a lifelong singleton.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Fishnet Bodysuit Birthday cake woah

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Oh ... we have fun.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

Follow this recipe to the letter:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yqblvn6iwts/Tuyr8X1QkcI/AAAAAAAAAoM/PUN-J8-bOwM/s640/-1.jpg

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

lol lex, what a great revive

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

let us adopt a party line here so that lex isn't in over his head: Yukon Gold/Bag of Spinach 2012

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

i vote for zucchini or asparagus personally but spinach works

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

Is there a main course in here somewhere?

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Ya I am down w a bag of spinach too

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

lex, just buy a couple boxes of these:

http://www.groceryshopforfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/T.G.I.-Firdays-Potato-Skins.jpg

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

fuck fuck fuck he's cooking for me at mine tonight and i foolishly offered to buy ingredients

potatoes and "some green veg"

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. what kind of potatoes?? what does "some green veg" mean in terms of EXACTLY WHAT TO BUY???? how do people cope with this on a regular basis?

― lex pretend, Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:23 AM (4 hours ago)


OMG, he's spent FOUR HOURS puzzling away in the grocery store!

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.kidspot.com.au/admin/images/contentarticles/3063.jpg

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wLXGreQcwy4/TbY6DONK51I/AAAAAAAAA6s/4kKlEISlJMk/s1600/the+big+lebowski+jeff+bridges+the+dude+supermarket.jpg

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

my housemate came with me and held my hand and did not laugh too loudly when i asked her whether this thing was a garlic :)

i bought potatoes (the quantity and type would have paralysed me had i been there on my own), two courgettes (didn't quite recognise them not cut up!) and a garlic thing, and we ascertained that we already have a bag of kale in the house that i (he) can use

then i had to deal with buying double cream

but i have emerged unscathed

i feel exhausted now

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

Double cream in a white russian might be kinda stiff.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

Guys, I need your help to dissuade my paramour, an actor, from wanting to watch Won't Back Down (because "Viola Davis is in it"). I mean, Grand Illusion screens here at 9:10.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

love hurts

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

love modest affection hurts

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is Won't Back Down?

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 29 September 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

Viola Davis against teacher unions and their communist allies.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

Sounds...enobling.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

I'd prefer rewatching Bogdanovich's four-hour Tom Petty doc.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

And he's turning down Grand Illusion because...he's already seen it, right?

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

No, I won!

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

no he hasn't seen it and I suspect he won't like it #blackandwhitemovies

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

deal-breaker

clouds, Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

any way you can get him stoned?

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

that was rhetorical. i basically just want to get stoned and go see grand illusion.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

oh he smokes -- and he's driving tonight!

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

ha, sounds like winning to me.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

I've said on these threads that with one exception I've never dated anyone who cares remotely about books or movies. Now it's tiresome. I don't mind being Stalin about such things these days.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

I always forget whether it was Grand Illusion or Brief Encounter that Jeff Goldblum says is a great movie to watch while high in Annie Hall.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

Grand Illusion, but I take it The Rules of the Game's episodic structure works best.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

what makes a good w33d movie? weirdness? pretty colors?

clouds, Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

deep focus and hidden motives.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

and bruce lee.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

things NOT to watch while high: the video for antony and the johnsons' "cut the world"

melancholia worked REALLY well for the first 10 minutes

clouds, Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't do it much when younger and less so now. Only Angels Have Wings is the only one which in my youth gained from the stimulation

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

it = watching movies high. I'm with Morbs in that respect.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

seven samurai is a great w33d and coffee movie, i cried like the whole time.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

melancholia worked REALLY well for the first 10 minutes

― clouds, Saturday, September 29, 2012 3:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a good score is crucial imo

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

indeed

so far baraka has been the best stoned-viewing: pretty things, nice sounds, not much of a narrative

clouds, Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

clouds get Fantastic Planet

The Most Typical and Popular Girl Rider (Crabbits), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

yes!! have seen it but it's been a few years.

clouds, Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

Kenneth Anger, Brothers Quay

The Most Typical and Popular Girl Rider (Crabbits), Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

still need to see the anger films, have seen one from the bros quay with something from stockhausen's "licht" that was pretty awesome

haven't convinced the bf to watch the stan brakhage films or the rest of painlevé's "science is fiction" series. i might have to beg.

clouds, Saturday, 29 September 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

for shame, evbody

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

Pee-Wee's Playhouse, Forbidden Zone, that Dr Caligari movie from the 80s, Slacker, Daisies

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 30 September 2012 01:55 (thirteen years ago)

peter greenaway

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 30 September 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

Con Air, Ishtar, The Lion King, Casablanca

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 30 September 2012 03:06 (thirteen years ago)

The Thing and It's Alive both incredible viewing experiences.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Sunday, 30 September 2012 04:30 (thirteen years ago)

Blazing Saddles, Drunken Master, Godfather Part II, You've Got Mail

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 30 September 2012 04:45 (thirteen years ago)

WARNING DO NOT WATCH BELA TARR

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 30 September 2012 06:46 (thirteen years ago)

horrorz alla u

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 07:09 (thirteen years ago)

ha, I don't even know what you guys are talking about, I'm just naming random movies for fun

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 30 September 2012 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

in my experience:

smoking w33d before a movie = conk out within half an hour

w33d brownie before a movie = whoa i just watched three movies in a row apparently?

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

I got what I wanted: Grand Illusion (which he loved; he gasped at how "well-written" the first exchange b/w de Boldieu and Rauffenstein was), a tour of his new place, and uh other stuff. A good night.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 September 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

WARNING DO NOT WATCH BELA TARR

― bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:46 AM (5 hours ago)

yeah i wouldn't imagine that would go well; definitely a coffee movie

in my experience:

smoking w33d before a movie = conk out within half an hour

w33d brownie before a movie = whoa i just watched three movies in a row apparently?

― these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:07 AM

ha i've only fallen asleep while watching altman's 3 women (which i will try again sober) :(

clouds, Sunday, 30 September 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

wow, lex, glad you got that figured out... i admit that i find your panic slightly amusing given the culinary exploits of me and my bf, but still: good job!

i just finished what i hope is one of the final drafts of this David Wojnarowicz essay/talk i've been giving for a bit. i was a bit flummoxed as to how to fill in some parts of the damn thing, but then i saw How to Surivve a Plague, and that prodded me along.

by the way, i do recommend it. made me cry twice, but also made me viciously angry at the poor to non-existent class analysis contained within its 1hr49mins.

anyway, it's beautiful here, we're at the library, about to go to the gym.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Sunday, 30 September 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

still fucking gross/hot here but i plan on spending much of tonight in a movie theater

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 30 September 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

ok wtf is it about having a man that suddenly makes a) everyone tell you about how x y and z were totally into you (thanks for telling me AT THE TIME guys) b) suddenly you have to deal with people really blatantly into you?

lex pretend, Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

WHERE WAS ALL OF THIS one year ago is what i'm saying

lex pretend, Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

btw i have figured nothing out about cooking, if my housemate hadn't come with me i'd still be in the grocers paralysed by fear and indecision

lex pretend, Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

at least you wouldn't have been hungry

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

ok wtf is it about having a man that suddenly makes a) everyone tell you about how x y and z were totally into you (thanks for telling me AT THE TIME guys) b) suddenly you have to deal with people really blatantly into you?

Pheromones responding to triumph.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

Two marvelous things about dating a boy: (a) hot nutritious meals, during which conversation is a plus (b) early Sunday evenings by yourself feel earned.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

btw I just broke a scotch glass in my kitchen so maybe "earned" is a fallacy

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

will let "boy" pass since he's an actor

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

xpost read that as "btw I just broke a scotch glass up the butt"

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not gay, I'm just experimenting.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

Help help I am on a bad date somebody text me with a fake emergency!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:18 (thirteen years ago)

hope yr getting out of it

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

go to bathroom; smash window

clouds, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

sent you a text!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:42 (thirteen years ago)

somebody went to a Bob Mould show w/ me in the '90s and just left unannounced in the middle. try that.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:52 (thirteen years ago)

All you have to do is find a Bon Mould show.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

Mould Iver?

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

Oh jeez, he seemed really articulate and intelligent on iPhone thingy but then IRL he was just like ultrastoned and also weirdly creepy (like wd interject things like "Do want to make out?" and "I just wanna dive into your crotch right now")

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)

He wasn't even that unattractive but the barely-open eyes and perpetual weed grin was pretty nagl

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)

I Just Wanna Dive Into Your Crotch Right Now: Gay Winter 2012!

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

Cold and Articulate Until 4/20: Gay Winter 2012

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah he also kept asking if I wanted to go to his place and smoke weed

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

Bcz he had, like, the *best stuff* like he may have actually used the word "primo" ;_;

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

He was Matthew McConaughey in Dazed & Confused, wasn't he?

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

I use the word "primo." When I'm looking for a "secondo."

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:33 (thirteen years ago)

hi guys, i had a cold and then i gave it to my boyfriend and then i went to a funeral and now i'm back at work.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

What a bleak update! I hope you are doing well, hon.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

There is nothing good about that sequence of events. Very sorry to hear.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

ha, yeah, i guess that does sound bleak. ha! things aren't all bad, tho! i am feeling mostly better, and i got to watch lots of tv while i was sick, also i finally saw _weekend_ which i liked a lot, and i am learning how to weave, and i am going to a wedding this weekend.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Still haven't seen Weekend. One day I'll do a double feature of both it and the Godard Weekend and then I'll be another .002% caught up on my movie watching.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

so no one else has seen Keep the Lights On?

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

...only in 5 theaters last week. Miami and Minneapolis soon.

http://www.musicboxfilms.com/keep-the-lights-on-movies-10.php#theaters

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

i plan on seeing it soon

maybe when i STOP PUKING

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

I'll def make an effort to catch it when it's here.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

agh sorry d.r., hope you're better soon.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

yes, don't puke any more.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

Guys I need a haircut. Show me pictures of a haircut I should get.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 4 October 2012 04:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2yg2frJF1qcq9kjo3_400.gif

clouds, Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

hbd tabes! You are going to have a deeeelightful month if it ends up an Oakland-San Francisco World Series.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Cool, another earthquake!

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

Just kidding, that would suck for people who live there. Happy birthday!

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_APj5sdW23k

Happy Thursday, everyone! Grace wd like to remind you that "you don't have to be sweet to be good"

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

*GLUG GLUG GLUG*

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

having had a ton of ginger ale these last few days, i can confirm that this is true

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

love it

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

also omg clouds

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

speaking of grace i snapped this (totally predictable) cover connection last nite:

http://distilleryimage5.instagram.com/9a2a69c80dd611e2b7ea22000a1fc2ec_7.jpg

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

Ya, didn't Jean-Paul Goude do both of those?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

yessir

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

thanks for bd wishes yall. gonna make it short and sweet--

saw Cynthia Carr and Amy Scholder on the new Wojnarowicz biography last night, and....

jo3, i showed Cindy my tat of "Fuck you faggot fucker," and she told me the same story about the drawing you told me, and i thought of you.

having a great day! listening to Idjut Boys, ate a delicious greasy lunch, and am later going to drink many beers around a fire. yes.

xoxo

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Thursday, 4 October 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

awww :) (she started researching at f4les right before i stopped working there)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit she's actually in LA tonight! if i feel up to it i may go

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

omg someone from okcupid wants to get a drink with me right now

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:30 (thirteen years ago)

O.O

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:30 (thirteen years ago)

what is stopping you

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

Nothing, I am just v surprised

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

Also I am going to re-edit Duck Sauce's "Barbra Streisand" to say "Parker Posey" I think

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:40 (thirteen years ago)

http://gobarbra.com/

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

I was just playing w/ that which is what inspired me! I want it to be the whole song though

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

listen i'm not made of gold here

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Saturday, 6 October 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

Oh hey this "date" thing isn't awful

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

At what point are you supposed to tell someone you don't actually want to date-date?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

Okay that wound up being short, he had to work early, he was nice but idk w/e

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

OK, I'm starting to get a little tired of the ass grabs during trivia.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)

receiving, are ye?

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:43 (thirteen years ago)

That's a loaded word choice.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:48 (thirteen years ago)

I unpacked my sweaters today. Rotated my fall shirts into the closet, put the summer shirts into storage. Tomorrow I'll swap out the ties. I really enjoy dressing seasonally.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Saturday, 6 October 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

At what point are you supposed to tell someone you don't actually want to date-date?

I usually know during the middle of the first date.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 October 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

on the other hand I'll be on my sixth date tonight with the same feller. I like him but we'd both wince if we played Let's Get Serious (he might like "Let's Get Serious" though).

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 October 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

xp no I just mean in general, like new friends with or without benefits is fine but I am not really ready to just go boyfriending again

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 6 October 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

Do you get the sense that he's getting serious?

I guess it's safe to take out the A/C unit now? Top floor w/ west-facing windows let it get gross in here even in the 50s w/ the windows open.

I rejoined a gym + hired a trainer.Mostly to abate feelings of wanting to jump out of one of those west-facing windows. But wanting to become more studly is also a factor.

Gym and auto-defenestration seems like gay news.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Sunday, 7 October 2012 08:21 (thirteen years ago)

one reason i'm looking forward to UIC is that i will be able to use their gym

crisp apple morning (clouds), Sunday, 7 October 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

Oh cool, I didn't know you were going to go to UIC. Free gym is a nice perk. It's probably really nice, too.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Sunday, 7 October 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

clouds is corey, yes? from both sides now?

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 October 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

i was feeling aristophanian at the time

yes, s'mee. hullo!

crisp apple morning (clouds), Sunday, 7 October 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

fun fact: the "fat fat fat" song from strangers with candy is a rip of "songs to aging children come". apparently steven colbert is a fan.

crisp apple morning (clouds), Sunday, 7 October 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, I forgot about that song. That's a good gag. I'm rewatching/listening to that ep. now. Do you know what I wanna do to you? Mmmmm...I don't think I want to know...

I'd like your opinion. C/D?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF1lU-CrQfc

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Sunday, 7 October 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF1lU-CrQfc

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Sunday, 7 October 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Canadigays! I'm sure I'd be enjoying mine a lot more were I not so damned sick,

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Sunday, 7 October 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

also sick. not as bad as JF - i had the worst of the cold earlier in the week but it is sneezing and so forth season.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 7 October 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

Fall is my fave season in just about every way and this is how it repays my love?

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

Happy thanksgiving, Canadians. My brother, cousin and mom and I played hearts until we fell asleep

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 8 October 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

about half the office is gone.

in recent gay news, i checked out george michael - faith from the library yesterday after a moment of reflection. when my boyfriend saw it later he looked at me like i'd stepped in dog shit.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Monday, 8 October 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

a few weeks ago I got brunch with kate78 and The Higgs and we were all very happy that the diner was playing Faith

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

I think I really, really need this

http://www.etsy.com/listing/91651330/eyes-sleep-mask-3

http://img1.etsystatic.com/005/0/5945108/il_570xN.368288601_lcaf.jpg

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

Did I mention that I sort of restarted my OKC account again? Must be some extra mold spores in the air this fall or something.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Or I can get this one and have fractal chakra dreams

http://www.etsy.com/listing/56652192/third-eye-chakra-dream-sleep-mask-free

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

xp whoa, what??

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure life is worth a damn without the Jam-Lewis remix of "Monkey."

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure life is worth a damn without the cool summer remix of "Diamonds."

xp yup, "bipsmith"

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

I have never listened to Faith but a bunch of ppl in the last week have been talking abt it so I think I'm going to give it a spin right now

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

Only a couple tracks weren't singles, one of which ("Hand to Mouth") should have been.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

I like the third part of "I Want Your Sex."

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

I just had the most clinical and passionless encounter I have ever experienced. I can't even call it sex, really.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

that's usually how the dentist feels

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

jk -- i'm glad to be past those days

my boyfriend is gone for the weekend, so i'm gonna watch a bunch of episodes of parenthood

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

My dentist is a wonderful, wonderful woman who loves purple and looks exactly like Alfre Woodard and I would have much preferred seeing her.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

I decided to spend the rest of my evening playing some weird rabbit card game at a Radical Faerie commune; we'll see how this pans out.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:12 (thirteen years ago)

oh god

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

haa

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

i think that might be my idea of hell. well, one level of it, anyway.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

"Radical Faerie" -- does that mean "guys who read Edmund Spenser while eating your asshole"?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

Guys there is so much food and gender fluidity

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:53 (thirteen years ago)

So far I have had some sort of incredible veggie quinoa, blondies with cinnamon cream cheese icing, a slice of apple pie, and lots of chips.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes i just want to gain 50 lbs, get a septum piercing and move to new mexico to do acid all the time

fires on the 'splain (clouds), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)

one of those times being now

fires on the 'splain (clouds), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

radical faeries primer for beginners:

itt: radical faeries seeking to "reject hetero-imitation" and redefine gay identity( NSFW)

plax (ico), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

met one named "7" once

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)

Names of ppl here include: Hugs, Lemons, Pumpkin, Rose

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

Also the guy I'm sleeping with is like playing footsies w me while we sit across the table from his partner and apparently all of this is ok *shrug*

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

met one named "7" once

― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, October 12, 2012 10:28 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

constanza's kid, eh?

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:52 (thirteen years ago)

stevie! are you going for a record??

fires on the 'splain (clouds), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:22 (thirteen years ago)

wait record of what

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

I just had the most clinical and passionless encounter I have ever experienced. I can't even call it sex, really.

― bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, October 12, 2012 7:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's usually how the dentist feels

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, October 12, 2012 7:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's usually how sex feels.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 05:38 (thirteen years ago)

7 hour late rimshot xp

fires on the 'splain (clouds), Saturday, 13 October 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

ur doing it rong

also gross self promo headsup/alert: me and my bf play our 20th anniversary show (barf) tonight in Brooklyn at 285 Kent so come and throw stuff at us, if you want. Matmos / Rosenkopf / Ed Schrader / Guardian Alien plus it's all ages so your babysister can come too.
whatever shall I wear? toupee and a walker?

the tune was space, Saturday, 13 October 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

I can't lend you my cane. Wish I was up for it healthwise; feelin' decent but not for standing/crowds.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 October 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Shit, I would totally go to that if I didn't have work (and also no money)

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

Are you guys plotting a tour for the new album? Or is that secret info?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

poooops i wish i could come but i am driving home today, great line-up

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 13 October 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

also goon, we'll get that drink @ Julius' next time.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 October 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

yah, this was a brief trip but i'll be back for something else possibly as early as tuesday
how are you feeling?

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 13 October 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

better today -- limp improved over last few days -- but very changeable over time. Been going to work most days (tho not very happily).

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 October 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

once I took like a dozen of unsuspecting non radical fairies to the hetero rainbow, we being a bit OCD / scared of the unknown, ended up arriving with such a ridiculous amount of food hah, the hippies were sooo happy to see us. great food, nice people, good times.

wolves lacan, Saturday, 13 October 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Wait who are goon and wolves?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

I'm looking forward to meeting Stevie at last!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 October 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

goon is the artist formerly known as "phinal phantasy"
wolves has been posting for a while but don't know him/her "personally"

fires on the 'splain (clouds), Saturday, 13 October 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

expert semi-lurker dude, hails from latam.

wolves lacan, Saturday, 13 October 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

hello gays.

drew, plz make that tour happen. i want to hang out with you out here.

i am giving a reading in NYC in February. date TBA. Philly and B-more also in the works.

FINALLY: i hate radical faeries with such a passion that it makes my head spin, and i start yelling "YOUR MOTHER SUCKS COCKS IN HELL" and all that jazz.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Upcoming DR tourdates: gonna be in Seattle in December (exact dates TBA) and NYC/NJ in January (5th-12th), the latter with bf in tow

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

Oh come on hating faeries is like hating puppies

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

hippie nonsense is hippie nonsense, and radical faeries are the embodiment of hippie nonsense.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 October 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but they are so sweet and generous and they won't stop giving you food; who doesn't love that?!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

Also they give great hugs.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

1) terrible hippie names for everything, from their stupid selves to their stupid land projects
2) hugs, cum rituals, kumbayah shit
3) nudism
4) as Brontez says, "Radical faeries? HELL NO. I already know enough crazy white people."

*the end*

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 October 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

land projects? cum rituals??

Pretty anti-radical faerie too, but not quite as vehemently so as you!

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Sunday, 14 October 2012 07:16 (thirteen years ago)

Are they the ones that always look like they're walking over hot coals?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 October 2012 07:18 (thirteen years ago)

what's yr beef with nudism, t?

one of B's best friends is a faerie. in theory i'm ok with RF but i find the native american co-optation stuff problematic

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 14 October 2012 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

i think table and i may have finally found common ground w/r/t our stances on hippies

(mine is that they should not exist in my vicinity, preferably at all, and even as a TORI AMOS fan i cannot tolerate even seeing the word "faerie")

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 October 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

there was a bearded guy wearing a dress on the bus last night and i thought of RFs

fires on the 'splain (clouds), Sunday, 14 October 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

(in other news M is discovering the perils of dating a writer. "i'm in a writing cave this week." next day, "are you done yet, can i come over?" still not done. next day, "are you done yet?" STILL NOT DONE. next day, "are you done yet?" STILL. NOT. DONE. (but i let him come over anyway.)

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 October 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

there was a customer at the restaurant the other night, salt & pepper crew cut, tight black polo shirt, black capris, and fabulous little fur-trimmed booties with a 4 inch heel.

not exactly radical faery stuff but i definitely enjoyed it

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 14 October 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

there is a gay bar moving in next door, so that probably means our clientele is about to get a lot gayer. this is probably a good thing for business provided we don't have to compete with rihanna remixes through the shared walls

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 14 October 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

here was a bearded guy wearing a dress on the bus last night and i thought of RFs

"rampant faggotry"?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

that's probably closer to what the other bus riders were thinking

fires on the 'splain (clouds), Sunday, 14 October 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

so on board w. cum rituals and nudism

plax (ico), Sunday, 14 October 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

"i trace this mandala of spunk across your chest"

plax (ico), Sunday, 14 October 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

that's fun but taking it soooo seriously as a 'lifestyle' is a pain.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 October 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

i really had no idea that radical faeries is an actual thing... so far outside my view of things

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 October 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

Such animosity towards RFs itt! I mean yeah taking it super seriously and like blessing vegetables and stuff is a little eyeroll-inducing at times but I am still staunchly #teamfaerie

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

wait -- what is a radical faery?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

It's super reductive to just write them off as hippie-dippie new age bullshit; I mean they are a lot more than that obviously. I get finding aspects of it annoying but being all HATE HATE HATE @ a group of people who are so positive and also mostly mind their own business seems strange

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

i don't hate em. hate is a waste. I'd just find em too silly to be around regularly.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 October 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm it mostly sounds like fun early-20s sexploration extended into adulthood and with costumes and facepaint, no judgement here, would not smash tho

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

smh @ at life choices + would not smash

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

If you are worried that a cool friend is destined toward radical faeriedom, what do you do? "Wow that tailored suit looks SO nice on you, you should like wear suits all the time" or something more drastic?

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

you buy him a Bryan Ferry album.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

Queer as Folk episode "Stand Up for Ourselves" features a storyline where the characters Emmett and Michael attend a rural gathering to discover their "inner Faerie." Various adventures ensue on the land, including a mystical encounter with Harry Hay.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

my beard is definitely at hippie-length these days

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 14 October 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

ph1l is moving towards a socrates-level beard

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Sunday, 14 October 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

so I'm trying to stall calling the guy I'm dating because I don't want to see him today even though it's been six days. Cold?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

gay

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 October 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

does that mean that you guys are actually dating?

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 October 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

insofar as we've seen each other seven or eight times

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

Guys, I never seem to have anything gay to talk about...

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 15 October 2012 04:38 (thirteen years ago)

Most of us seldom do, it seems!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 October 2012 05:15 (thirteen years ago)

yesterday i was listening to prokofiev with a cat on my lap drinking chai and reading hegel. dunno if that's gay or just poncey.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Monday, 15 October 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

wow some commas would be helpful there

ftr my cat can't read or drink hot liquids

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Monday, 15 October 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

yesterday i was listening to prokofiev...

c, sometimes I think you are baiting me.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 15 October 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

The gayest thing I did this weekend was blow off the zombie pub crawl.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 15 October 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

hehe

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Monday, 15 October 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

The gayest thing I did this weekend was having Demi Lovato's "Give Your Heart a Break" blaring from my car window, to which one pedestrian gave me a definite WTF look.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 15 October 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

I saw a jazz concert last night and wore a shapeless grey flannel shirt. Today I step up my gayme

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 October 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

further to the radical faerie discussion, there are a number of other neo-pagan / ritual gay orgs i've learned about in my internet adventures:

http://brotherhoodofthephoenix.org/about_us/faq/

http://www.minoan-brotherhood.org/

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, 15 October 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

i'm of two minds about the sort of liberated sacred sexuality, because i'm not about to criticize anybody for their search for spirituality, community, and support as long as they're not hurting anybody. on the other hand, do you really need all that witchy paraphernalia if you wanna have a circle jerk? i don't want to question alleged spiritual motives but i think you have to.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, 15 October 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Some people are into leather and chains. Others are into pollen.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 15 October 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

yah i mean i think its just the theatre of it. sexual practices that supplement the body, new possibilities of pleasure with strange parts of the body. also i think its sortof hard to think this outside the aftermath of an AIDS discourse, a desire for reparation and healing. like AA Bronson's recent work definitely gestures toward a rad fae space. invocation of the queer spirits. In the sky and in the eye and

plax (ico), Monday, 15 October 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

lol, love the idea of reparative f***ing

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 15 October 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

I am owed.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

i had about as gay a weekend as i possibly could've

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 15 October 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

"Golden Girls" marathon and strawberry daiquiris?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Faerie frottaging and cottaging?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

gay zine launch party, gay awards gala (feat. a partial restoration of 1919 german silent film 'anders als die anderen'), gay bar after a poetry reading last night, a gay friend's birthday party, and an opera where i totally fagged out over NETREBKO and the cute gay polish baritone. and um, other things.

tonight i am planning on doing absolutely nothing

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

guy i slept w saturday texted me to say hes got crabs

plax (ico), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

informative text or accusatory

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 October 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

i love crabs gossip it's like tag

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 October 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

ugh that is horrible!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

me irl btw:

http://www.peteykins.com/sparklepics5/NancyPanel18.jpg

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

agh plax/lol stevie

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

guy i slept w saturday texted me to say hes got crabs

this happened to me about twelve years ago ugh

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

here's the thing: rad fae stuff is HUGE out here, and in the end, i can't help but see it as an excuse to be a slut. that's fine, i love sluts, but don't dress it up in a bunch of new age yippie language and appropriated imagery.

and here's the thing: while i haven't seen too much of the more recent work, i pair AA Bronson with people like Elijah Burgher and bands like Coil or THC in my head, and that sort of sexual magick (more satan less pagan) is fine with me.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

also, sorry plax. :-(

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't had enough coffee, sorry for my repetitions in that first post.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

xp what's so horrible? isn't it just a shampoo and you're done? it's not like lice or bedbugs or scabies, no?

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 October 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

shave yr pubes off, it is the thing for 2012

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

2012?

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 October 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

Seems kinda 2004 to me.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 15 October 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

it would seriously take me hours to shave all my body hair so there's probably no point depubing unless i was gonna do everything else and im not. i just hope they don't get in my beard because i have six months growth and i don't wanna start from scratch. really my beard is the only thing thats troubling me right now.

plax (ico), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

but lol thanks for the good wishes

plax (ico), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

also the pharmacist asked me if i got it from sleeping with a child O_o like actually wtf???

plax (ico), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

I cannot stress how wretched you will feel after your pubes are shaved, unless you're standing beside a cute guy and you scratch your nuts just so.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

The only time I got crabs it took four months for them to go away, despite repeated shampooing. It was with the second guy I slept with too :/

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

really? i apologize for my cavalier response b/c all my sexy friends are like "ha ha yeah, got them last night! they're gone now."

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

only gay thing i did all weekend was jo while thinking about dudez :(

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

poor T, I hope you do not have the krabz

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

obv I was kidding abt shaving the pubes; that is one of the absolute biggest nagl's of all time, duh

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

speaking of beards, this is potentially my halloween costume this year:

http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/g_l/ginsberg/images/portrait_t.jpg

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

If you take it srsly you'll have to accessorize with a couple 15-year-old boys.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

Just got out of third chemo session so of course I'm walking better than I have in a week. (It doesn't last.)

Apparently I'm talking even more like Wm Burroughs, at least on the phone, since I got sick. I should use the cane and find someone to play William Tell with on Halloween.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol morbz. many warm wishes yr way.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 01:19 (thirteen years ago)

You wont need the gun, Morbs -- stick with the cane. Keep hobblin'.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

crossover 'your terrible (gay) ideas' post: tell your indie rapper not-too-close friend about how you have been thinking lately about 'stuff' and came to the conclusion that he's your platonic ideal for a bf, wondering if it has ever occurred to him to go out with a dude. ME, for example.

live or die merits of the button thread (wolves lacan), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

If necessary, I would just opt for a drunken grope. (no anticipation of success obv)

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

No don't do that.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

don't do it.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Do it!

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

No wait. I mean, don't do it!

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

hah I need to start a journal because now that I wrote that (for the world to see, too bad) I feel a bit better. I always had this problem where you take all your time to pick the smartest and most attractive kid in the room to become your best / usually only friend, but being sooo repressed I never ever realized what was I actually doing, this stuff still confuses me a lot.

live or die merits of the button thread (wolves lacan), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

Wonderfully brave and heartfelt in theory, probably inadvisable in practice.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

he's probably a touch flattered tbh i wouldn't sweat it, so long as there were no tears and/or gropes

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

I have taken the "Well, any chance you are interested?" leap once w/ no damage, but this was with perhaps the most pansexual person I have ever met.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

fuck. ph1l just had an insane conniption fit and threw ~50 papers of my notes around the room.

i wasn't the target of the rage but i'm fucking shaken right now.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

probably should not post about it here, just feel like i have to tell someone

i just hope it blows over by tonight, but i suspect it won't.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

:(

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

So, I'm trying not to get too nonplussed from seeing the OKC profile of someone I've admired at a distance at the climbing gym.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

right, last time i talk about irl problems with strangers on the internet

out of here.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

Is that out of character / has he done this sort of thing before? Shit, I wish you lived close enough that I could invite you over for a cup of green tea :(

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

if it makes you feel any better, clouds, I just told some clients who are trying to fuck with me to kiss my pepsi

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

actually I told them that yesterday, I lied. today I e-mailed the person in charge of typesetting and offered him a night out if he'd spell their names wrong

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

clouds wtf

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

go easy yall. yeah, i wdnt go here expecting instant advice.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

oh, I wasn't trying to josh, did that come off wrong?

Me, I'm in some annoying contract re-negotiations, having done all this work in good faith, I'm trying to keep my head down and not make a call + lay down the law. While debating a really niggling issue, like tiny potatoes, I wrote "if you're ~that~ concerned about your investors' interests, maybe your office could have a car wash? Or a bake sale?" and my lawyer laughed politely and then asked me to leave the discussion.

Now I'm distracting myself by thinking about The Hottest Man I've Ever Met. Do you have one? Some place in Texas I ended up at a bar where I met a 220 lb 6'5" actual cowboy, who looked early-30s but was certainly no older than 25, who had this incredibly gentle handshake and was tolerant of our party and never let his smile slip even for a moment when I quiveringly asked to have my photo taken with him.

Wait, where is that photo?

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

this tall handsome mid-30s salt-and-pepper athletic married utah dad i got to blow off a river trail. never saw him again, needless to say.

clouds idk what to say without more details / context. good thoughts etc.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

xp technically i did see him online a year or so later, i even sent him some stupid message that nothing came of. much better as a one-off.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

xp uh story please

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

lol there's this bear model guy who's friends with a friend of mine that i see out sometimes and each time i do, every single element of the word forming process from my brain to mouth gets completely shut down.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

I'd have to re-check my list but the ones that immediately spring to mind are a) barrel-chested EMT/firefighter I stayed with in upstate WA b) this really hot artist-y dude in East Village c) an old fbw in Philly who's a dead ringer for James Mercer and is also the hairiest person I have ever seen in my life

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

James Mercer btw:

http://www.spin.com/sites/all/files/styles/style620_413/public/120222-james-mercer.png

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

i...have to think about this

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

there was a guy on grindr who i exchanged a series of sexy messages with, and then the next day he forgot who i was. we actually did hang out a few weeks later but nothing came of it. but wow he was crazy hot. feel like everything i just said is kinda sad tho and i should think of a more organic example.

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

xp i have my block-a-mercer plug-in turned on, one sec

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

oh ok, cute

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

wait are we talking abt hottest ppl we've fucked or just hottest ppl?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

i construed it as "hottest we've met but didn't met mess around with." that's just me, tho.

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Hottest people we've met. Handshake required. Beyond that is bonus points

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

i don't meet many people

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

sorry guys, i overreacted. things are fine atm, but i was genuinely scared for a bit.

backstory: ph1l stayed up all night working on notes for a test, which then got erased from the program suddenly crashing, and which then wouldn't print after being re-typed. proceeded to throw shit around the room, including the notes for my research paper.

was mostly feeling that it was somehow my fault (this is a common thing for me — if someone i am close to is angry/upset i feel i am in part to blame) and also afraid that he would do something regrettable. everything's cooled down though.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

he's also been sleeping a lot, like 14 hours a day, so the possibility of that being a symptom of depression also played into my worries. also, i am pretty much always depressed. we're depressed people. sad sad sad.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

:(

hugs, cloudy

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

oof lots of support at you clouds

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

likewise, clouds. Hence my Facebook sup.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

i thought so. thanks y'all. i'll be fine.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

Just out of curiosity, c, are you at least part if not all Scandinavian?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)

INSANE INSANE RAD FAERIE MOMENT HOLY CRAP

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

haha, not at all E — afaik i am mostly scot-irish (lots of ppl w/ my last name in my hometown) and german

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:24 (thirteen years ago)

what happened stevie?

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)

It was just a guess.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:44 (thirteen years ago)

<3

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:44 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie posting during tantric massage?

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

divine revelation of the bearded goddess?

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

We were sitting around and one of the faeries was talking about a tattoo she wanted to get and my friend was like "Oh you should talk to Ash about doing it" and it turns out he is referring to/0friends with this guy I had a super intense one-night thing with like two years ago and haven't talked to since (mentioned upthread as b) this really hot artist-y dude in East Village). It was very surreal.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Also at one point 3 of us got naked and had crazy sex together and then passed out naked. Yay faeries!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

could you guys plz stop having sex until I can locate a treatable-cancer-fetishist on craigslist?

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

I mean I met him in New York and not in Philly.

Also at one point early on last night we're talking about shrooms around the kitchen table and someone comes up and starts giving me a shoulder massage; that sorta caught me off guard but was not unpleasant.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

xp Morbs if it makes you feel any better I'm not sure how much longer this is gonna lasy

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not ok with spontaneous backrubs tbh

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

and here's the thing: while i haven't seen too much of the more recent work, i pair AA Bronson with people like Elijah Burgher and bands like Coil or THC in my head, and that sort of sexual magick (more satan less pagan) is fine with me.

― for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Monday, 15 October 2012 17:53 (2 days ago)

so weird, i can't think of any of Bronson's work at all that's "more satan than pagan," the whole basis of his solo work since group material emerges from this space of care, tending to felix and jorge on their deathbeds. earth mother, fecund spaces of healing, butt massages, and dream cities where the living and the dead walk together. sure burgher is coming from an aleister crowley space of witchcraft, self-obliteration but also his work is maybe not so interesting to me. i think what's really good about bronson's work over the last ten or so years that he's been working as a solo artist, is that it doesn't stall at the level of representation (sigils, glyphs, incantations) but moves beyond that. like with this school for young shamans, inventing styles of communitarian eroticism. which is what is interesting about rad fae stuff to me. these stylised rituals of friendship, adornment. ways of living critically that require ad hoc pedagogies, an aesthetics of community.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not ok with spontaneous backrubs tbh

a drunk woman did this to me a few nights ago while we were playing darts. i HATE this

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

it's not even that i don't like to be touched -- i am v snuggly and physically affectionate -- but maybe get my consent before you start kneading my flesh

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

i feel like a lot of my personal space issues have been ground down to almost nothing in the last few years.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

i think it as a boundary issue honestly, not necessarily a physical boundary but a behavioral one

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

well i mean, boundaries can be p necessary too

plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

i am a total snugglebug otherwise but yeah, i find it kind of invasive and presumptuous

and may god help you if you tickle me, even if i do know you

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

THE MORE BOUNDARIES THE BETTER

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

inventing styles of communitarian eroticism

do not do this to me or in front of me in public

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

For me it all depends on the rubber.

Stevie, I usu don't like "things" that last! ;)

Making a list of Hottest Guys I've met would be weird, just one more list to go with Great Films and All-Time Baseball Players. Anyone who seems instantly hot often sends me running in the opposite direction, or looking for what that gorgeous shell is hiding.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

could you guys plz stop having sex until I can locate a treatable-cancer-fetishist on craigslist?

― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, October 17, 2012

pretty sure you can find someone to lick your sores

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

def. still have physical space issues, too many patriarchal back pats growing up, touch laced with control. *shudders*

my bf likes to smack my ass every once in a while. it took me a long time to feel ok about it, like i couldn't imagine an ass smack that wasn't about objectivising someone. now it just feels affectionate and i smack back.

xp ewwwwwwwww ;_;

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

i don't really make ranked lists about anything ever so idk where i would begin ranking hot dudes

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

more satan less pagan

lol, mulling this as a screenname

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

I don't have leprosy. I wonder how cruisy support groups are. xxxp

Physical-space issues in public-crush situations overwhelm in NYC, so an uninvited massage seems relatively intimate, depending on the doer.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

The easiest way to start is to use Jake Gyllenhaal as a platonic ideal and work downward.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

hey guys you know what's great

butts

butts are amazing

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

i could daydream about butts all day and often do

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

like now

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

Jake's butt has been seen on the subway since he's been doing that Brit play on Broadway, tot gonna hit him up for a discount seat if I run into him.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

hii you guys. sick of lurking.

boss & toss (lou), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

ADIDAB

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

i like my seats 'full-priced' xp

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

lou!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

hii!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

what's uuup

boss & toss (lou), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

taking sides: young joe dallesandro's butt vs young tony ward's butt

xp hi lou!

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Ew @ the veiled approval of Matthew Fox over on the Cross thread.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Matthew Fox was a proto-Jake on a diet of wheat germ and Bodeans.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Like, vascularity shouldn't resemble the NY subway map.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

too many patriarchal back pats growing up, touch laced with control.

exactly and this is why those RF guys make sense. I like coil a lot and would totally join a gang like the one plax(ico) describes. sounds like having a bunch of john balances and sleazys as your buddies.

live or die merits of the button thread (wolves lacan), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

word

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

i think MF is babely but whoa geez the way he looks in that movie ;_;

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

lou, what's new, how is Brooklyn treating you?

Yeah E, it's gross, but he looks OK in the mass-circ poster shot.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

butts are so amazing that i often wish i could spend hours with my face inside of one

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

singing the national anthem?

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

jordan otm

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

whoa, nice post plax. also butts are OK

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

oh god that movie

live or die merits of the button thread (wolves lacan), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

butts are more than ok. i am a size queen except about the size of butts.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

I am buttless and resent people with butts

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

i have a decent butt

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

The problem with butts is often hips distract – and in Miami butts often get absorbed into grotesque hips.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

you can grow a butt, right?

we have the technology

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

got no complaints about mine

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

mine is too breadloafy, but then again i never get a good look at it.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

As a couple of you can attest, I have no butt :(

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

I have tried growing a butt
There is a Romanian method and a Russian method
Neither is powerful enough. Instead I just keep a fat wallet

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

i wore slightly-too-tight pants the other day and was kind of uncomfortable the whole day but i made it better by telling myself "welp at least i'm sending some signals about my Nice Butt"

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

my butt is not spectacular, i have wide hips & big thighs so it's not very defined, but it's mine and i love it so

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

my boyfriend has lost a bunch of weight in the past 6 months and his butt got smaller and it made me sad

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

wait, how is that not being a size queen? :)

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

My butt is average size, but I wear pants that make it look bigger.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

morbs- i lasted about a year being single in NYC and now i'm dating someone again, but it's long distance and technically open. he's in LA/ always traveling. all came out of nowhere, really. the distance is a real challenge but it's so worth it. hoping we can eventually find a way to see each other more often. i'm not actually opposed to moving to the west coast, though i'd have to give up a really sweet job if i did.

so sorry to hear about your illness. hope you're all fixed up soon.

donna- i'll be in LA for halloween. you planning on going out?

boss & toss (lou), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

I'm skinny and tall enough that I suppose if I wanted to concentrate only on the butt, I could make it do things.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

no plans yet lou but hit me up when you're here!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

good for you, lou, and I'm doing pretty well as things go so far. We should have dinner again sometime soon.

I like butts when they're in my face but they're usually the last thing I check out.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol i care more about like armpits than i do butts. not that i don't like butts. i mean the right butt no doubt.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

pits are nice too

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Never done the butt thing yet, tbh.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

topographies of lust

plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

peaks and crevices

plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

armpits are no. 1 for me but butts are a close second

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't care about pits until I woke up with my nose in the pit of a guy I was briefly dating, he smelled like a newly opened deck of cards and I was intoxicated. After we broke up I kept thinking "I hope I can meet somebody who smells as good as that guy." Then one day I went a week without showering and smelled the same smell on myself so... it might have been chemical or narcissistic or something, whatever it was it was weird and I don't understand

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Eyes because they hold the least potential to disgust me.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Eric, there are multiple "butt things," come now.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

(that was not an order)

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I've done some of them, but not that one.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

The guy I'm dating now has no hint of bad breath or even food parties; it's a relief, especially after I've eaten peanuts.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Goon tie, I am p sure we have discussed that phenomenon before!! Isn't it strange?! It never ceases to fascinate me

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

Also yeah on my list of "hot guy parts", butts and pits are pretty high up and dicks are p low tbh. Not that I don't love them (obviously) but idk there are just other more important things in my mind.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

There are manifold levels of funk and some of them are quite enticing.

Backs of necks still slay me sometimes.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

Recalling elmo's description of "competitive stench" from a few years back.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

I think my favorite though is that little sliver of stomach that peeks out from under a shirt when someone stretches

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Faces are the hottest part!

A lot of it varies from guy to guy though

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

oh wait yes lex otm

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Like the idea of a "hot body" is sort of foreign to me; if I cannot see your face I have no concept of how hot you are.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm Stevie I don't recall sharing that info here before but it's possible. I like stomachs, doesn't matter if it is fat or skinny or muscled, that is where my hands want to be

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

yes, faces come first unless you are on your knees at a partee somewhere.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie otm

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

oh I didn't mean you in partic but I think just the subject of generating the smells of yr sexual partners is something that has been brought up; it is definitely a *thing* that occurs and not just you.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

i won't front, dicks are pretty damn important, i like to consider myself open minded and all but weird gross dicks are a dealbreaker

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Well I mean if it has oozing pussy sores or something then yeah that is maybe a bit unpleasant, but I feel like so much unnecessary emphasis is placed on having *the perfect huge dick* and it's just never been that big of a deal to me. There are really nice things you can do with small dicks that you can't do with big ones and there are really nice things you can do with big dicks that you can't do with little ones and so on and so forth. I mean if you've got one and it works than I'm cool.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

i know you mean 'sores full of pus' but woah lol

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

oh. oops.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

The only reason a dick's ever been a dealbreaker for me is poor hygiene. Size, shape, whatever, though I've never encountered a particularly freaky one.

Butts are nice to hold on to but beyond that kinda secondary? I am not into the funky stuff that much

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Hah, I made that exact same mistake a month ago, Stevie.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

Can't get enough ... of that http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/610TXKRJVDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

massive irl lols

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

"Pussy eye sockets," iirc.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it's sexist to say pussy sores can't be a treat.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

I've got binders full of pus.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Really want the election to be over so my lib friends don't have a daily infotainment phrase about Romney to obsess over, and their hard-ons for Obama can resume mid-term turgidity.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

Liberals generally don't sport good asses either.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

weird generalization, unless you're thinking JFK Jr is the gold standard

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

"was" obv

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

i mean i like pretty much all the parts of a guy but in terms of what turns me to jelly nothing beats a nice smile

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

morbs i have a picture of jfk jr on my fridge and it features the fine silhouette of his running rump. boy had some chest too

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

oh, you New Englanders! He looked great but was essentially the well-bred political royalty version of a stud bartender.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

well that's the charm, isn't it

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

What's the Camelot equivalent of Diane Chambers?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

the unpopular answer would be John-John's mom, but Gore Vidal made her sound amusingly hard-minded.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Gore Vidal is the only person who's made her a semi-human.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

I just checked the mirror. My ass needs work.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

Why don't you just show us and we'll let you know what you need to do.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

You know me. Only "after" pics.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

He can't stop looking at my legs.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

xp yes, show us yout butt "after" you've taken a picture of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frd53vbCHLg

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

What is an ass? I don't have one.

Actually, butts are pretty low on my list, I'm more about face > dick > stomach > legs.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

Really I'm not a size queen or anything, but I am just so totally about dicks, although not in the absence of other things I like. I tend to end up with really endowed guys for some reason, I'd actually prefer a bit smaller cause certain things would be easier.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

I like small dicks. I don't seek them out, and I like regular and grande, but small is fun.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 18 October 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if lesbians compare their partners' boob sizes so endlessly.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

I don't really think of it that way. It's not a contest, just an attribute.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 October 2012 04:23 (thirteen years ago)

this is a lovely conversation btw

fwiw girth > length imo

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Thursday, 18 October 2012 04:32 (thirteen years ago)

both have their advantages and disadvantages

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 October 2012 04:36 (thirteen years ago)

indeed.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Thursday, 18 October 2012 04:40 (thirteen years ago)

Boob girth vs. boob length

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)

gravity does most of the work in the latter case

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Thursday, 18 October 2012 05:06 (thirteen years ago)

So does the former, I bet.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 05:12 (thirteen years ago)

Boob girth vs. boob length

^^^^^

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 18 October 2012 06:02 (thirteen years ago)

I went to see Angels In America: Perestroika with my ex, which was fun, until we went to a bar afterwards where there were a bunch of ppl we knew and I watched him make out w/ the guy he's hooking up with (who once met up w/ me for a date like two years ago for abt 30 sec before he excused himself for a cigarette and then left):(

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 18 October 2012 06:10 (thirteen years ago)

yikes

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is with people?

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

mmmmph

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

gays just bring out the nonverbal in me, smdh

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

also thanks to eric's image i finally understand the "bohannon, bohannon, bohannon" bit in "genius of love"

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

bohannon is great

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

to be fair he knew the guy would be there and didn't want to go but I told him it was totally ok and dragged him out anyway and then yeah I wound up feeling not as totally ok w/ it as I thought I would. It was mostly the other guy who wouldn't leave him alone.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

dude sounds like a winner

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

(the other guy not yr ex)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

Bohannon is soooooo fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJotUintEV8

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

love caroline crawford is amazing on that record, would love to find the vinyl of her first album some day

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

bohannon is god

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

along with carl craig. co-gods.

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

People buying your drink for you. Ugh ugh ugh.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 19 October 2012 05:24 (thirteen years ago)

Cash from here on out.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 19 October 2012 05:24 (thirteen years ago)

"waah waah people like me"

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 19 October 2012 05:45 (thirteen years ago)

lol i wouldn't be able to afford to go out if i couldn't con guys into buying me drinks

plax (ico), Friday, 19 October 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

really Eric, relax and enjoy it

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 October 2012 10:58 (thirteen years ago)

I once bought a cocktail for a visitor to be a good host and afterward they sarcastically referred to "my largesse". I don't get it I love a free drink either giving or receiving

nice suit (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

I just got an e-mail from a cute boy, oooooh.

nice suit (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

man, sean astin is looking woofy these days:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc0529vkIa1r8uqf7o1_500.jpg

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Friday, 19 October 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

woops, huge image

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Friday, 19 October 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

looks like an author photo

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Friday, 19 October 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

most likely one of Dr. Sean Astin

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Friday, 19 October 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

aw, rudy growed up

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Friday, 19 October 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

cute!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 19 October 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

last night i ended up in the back of a cab at 1am with my head in M's lap swigging champagne straight from the bottle. it was kind of a moment

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

those are the best kinds of moments.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

yesss

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

and madonna's "music" was playing

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Friday, 19 October 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

I'm having trouble with this "relationship." It looks like my trouble is, well, wanting to spend time together.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 October 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

In that you do or do not want to do that?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 19 October 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm cool with seeing him twice a week and uh I don't think he's satisfied.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 October 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

are you in Miami, stevie? I wish i was in Miami :(

jed_, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

and alfred of course but i don't have to ask if you are x

jed_, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

also i haven't posted on these threads for a while so, hi! x

jed_, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

I am in Fort Myers now; it is lovely. Miami-bound in a few days!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 19 October 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

FABULOUS

jed_, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie in a few days!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 October 2012 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

Alfred in a few days!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 19 October 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

have a dance for me!

jed_, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

all over the place

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 19 October 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

;)

jed_, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

if i were in Miami now, i would try to find a cool spot on the beach where i could have a pina colada

surm, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

would it be gauche to post my video here? because i feel like i've been spamming the fuck out of it (although i have only posted it 2 times on ILX) but most people might not have seen it?

jed_, Friday, 19 October 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

well, to hell with it. this is what i look like dancing in a video i made for JD Twitch (stirmonster on here/ILM) and my friend Guy directed it and my other friend Laurie does the lipsyching and more. apologies to Stevie, Matt P and Donna who have definitely seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltr33fkxkxM

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

omg

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

great dancing

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

thanks!

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

:) cute

just bought a ticket to miami for the first week of december!

boss & toss (lou), Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

think i'm finally getting over my fear of airports.

last night i ended up in the back of a cab at 1am with my head in M's lap swigging champagne straight from the bottle. it was kind of a moment

lex- love that. so happy for you. spent a weekend in LA with my bf recently and it was full of moments like that. one benefit of being long distance is how intense it feels when we finally get to see each other.

boss & toss (lou), Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

fear of airports?

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:58 (thirteen years ago)

lol yeah. always just found them really stressful and disorienting. still can't stand them, but i've been traveling more lately and i can at least tolerate them now.

boss & toss (lou), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

<3 that vid.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:50 (thirteen years ago)

i always get a rapid heartbeat and sweaty palms when i'm in an airport. i hate lines.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Saturday, 20 October 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

and jed let's go dancing

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Saturday, 20 October 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

i just obsess on where I'm going at the airport, which only causes problems if there are delays.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

clouds, we will next time i'm in Toronto. I think we have friends in common there.

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

really? i haven't been to canada yet but i'm well overdue.

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, i'm getting people mixed up in that case. i thought clouds was 0w3n P.

where are you clouds?

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

chicago!

bryan "radical" ferry (clouds), Saturday, 20 October 2012 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

a lot has happened since i last visited the gay threads.

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

oh clouds! <3 x

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

so no one else has seen Keep the Lights On?

― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, October 3, 2012

today!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 October 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

jed we missed you plz stay

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

i'm right here.

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

ok good

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

cool video jed!
you're welcome to go dancing when in toronto, i know a place or two

sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

wondering what to do tonight . . . .

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

so goon tie is 0w£n P? then we have friends in common or, at least, acquaintances.

and thanks ;)

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

I can neither confirm nor deny that, but follow your heart

sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

What acquaintances, btw?

sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

a mad glaswegian girl called Sarah and her ex, Brendan, who is a painter and currently in Montreal and kinds of friends of theirs too.

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

speaking of exes, is it possible to be friends with an ex fling that was half really fun and half awkward ?

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

surm, those are the only gay frienda i have, pretty much. so, yes!

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

!!!!!!!! ok

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

I can confirm that jed is a consistently brilliant dancer

boxedjoy, Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

and that we have never had an awkward fling :)

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

ok i just texted him, let's see what the result

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

i rly just want to go out, i'm not trying to have sexy times with him

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

Another yes vote to surm

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

ok he texted back saying he was considering going to this party that i was considering going to. i think i did the right thing reaching out. thanks fellas, i needed the motivation

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, less close since B moved away but total buddies! xp

sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

i miss B!

jed_, Saturday, 20 October 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

thirding jed's supreme dance skillz which i witnessed at sub club :)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

so i haven't been out in a while and i haven't really flirted with anyone in a while and i have the house to myself tonight and

i don't know what to do

there is a "spank" party in brooklyn but it's like, i'm not sure who would go with me and i don't really know if you go to a queer hipster party by yourself? especially if you have to transfer trains to get to bushwick to go? can someone pls advise? thanks.

surm, Saturday, 20 October 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

id be going to the silent film at the Harvey Theater if i wasnt ailin' but thats just me.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 October 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

i am spending the night writing about marxism. i haven't "gone out" in so long that it feels like an alien concept.

tuplet nester (clouds), Saturday, 20 October 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

Going to queer hipster parties by yourself always seems like a good idea until you get there and everyone is already talking to someone else and no one wants to talk to you and you leave alone and feeling totally crummy.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 October 2012 01:31 (thirteen years ago)

How soon is now?

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 October 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

Hipster parties in Ft Myers?!?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 October 2012 01:54 (thirteen years ago)

so you go and you stand on your own and you leave on your own and you go home and you cry and you want to diiiiie

tuplet nester (clouds), Sunday, 21 October 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

Hipster parties in Ft Myers?!?

Hah, I'm sure there would be like 3 people in attendance at one of these.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 October 2012 04:57 (thirteen years ago)

Clouds remember the time we Went Out and hit like 4 bars in one night and stuff?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 October 2012 05:03 (thirteen years ago)

guys guys guys I've been carrying this albatross of an academic book manuscript around my neck for the past, uh, thirteen years (seven years as a dissertation and then six years editing / revising / finding a publisher etc.). And just tonight I hit send on the final revised manuscript. It comes out in March from Fordham University Press. I've literally had this project hanging over my head for like a decade and now, aside from final galley proof checking, it's . . . done.

the tune was space, Sunday, 21 October 2012 06:40 (thirteen years ago)

congrats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNtTEibFvlQ

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 October 2012 06:44 (thirteen years ago)

congrats, dr3w!!!! that is very exciting!

i spent the night going to a good old-fashioned house party the likes of which i didn't think my social circles did anymore, having instead decided to do dancing and clubs and afterparties forever and it was lovely and filled with lots of rap and lots of drinks and lots of good conversation,

but also i have the biggest crush on the (gay) brother of a good (bi, but more into dudes) friend of mine. which like, i have had this crush for a few years, but said brother wasn't single until recently and is now theoretically available and is totally charming and smart and interesting and i spent most of the night talking to him instead of my friends and being fairly obvious and what is the etiquette for this sort of thing. argh. sigh.

trying to make something happen is maybe just a terrible idea? but crushes are fun.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 21 October 2012 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

this insanely cute guy I see around came in while I was djing tonight and I totally failed at making conversation with him :/

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 October 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

whoa dd, that is one mighty long-term albatross. Would gladly go over the galleys instead of med articles....

I read about 80 pages of Team of Rivals and watched my friend assemble the new tempurpedic chair I'm sitting in; that was my Shut-In Saturday.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 October 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

stevie, indeed! we should do it again (iow, come to chicago :D)

dr3w — that is pretty amazing. what is the subject (if you can say what it is without this thread being the first google result)?

tuplet nester (clouds), Sunday, 21 October 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

congratulations!!!!!!!! can't pay for a feeling like that

surm, Sunday, 21 October 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

I love when my pee smells like asparagus.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 October 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

congratz dr3w!

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 October 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

Whoa drew!!! Mad high fives, buddy

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 October 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit that is awesome, dr3w

sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

there's no cover posted, but here's the quick n dirty guide to my tome:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Melancholy-Assemblage-Epistemology-Renaissance/dp/0823251284

the tune was space, Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

no black metal no credibility

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

wait for the sequel.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

great news, Drew. Well done.

jed_, Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

looks brilliant; will probably buy as soon as i can get some cash.

tuplet nester (clouds), Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

thanks y'all. Stevie the book's epilogue has a reading of Striborg's music / "depressive black metal" (paired with a long reading of Lars von Trier's "Melancholia")

the tune was space, Sunday, 21 October 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

I stand corrected (and impressed)

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

congrats, dr3w!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

awesome dr3w!!

i started reading heather love's 'feeling backward' recently so been thinkin bout affect lately (the bad kind especially) (also good book for the marriage skeptics among our ranks)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

drew, i am excited to read that book. my friend lis4 r0bertson is actually researching melancholy right now at the Warburg in London. she'd probably be totally excited about yr book.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 October 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

I mostly think about affect when I hear the Ramones' "I'm Affected."

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 October 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

tru confession, donna: h3ather lov3 is my ex-girlfriend- we went out in highschool!

the tune was space, Sunday, 21 October 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

!!!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 21 October 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

congrats drew! i cannot imagine how gratifying this must be.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 22 October 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

in other writerly news, I was rereading a paper that I presented at the Popular Culture Association of Canada back in May and just realized that I quoted J0rdan in it (acknowledged by name in the text, but I didn't know this Jordan was our J0rdan at the time)!

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 22 October 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

ha, what was it about?!

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 October 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

Your thoughts on the death of Tim Russert?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 October 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

The Weeknd and the schizo nature of contemporary R&B in general. Quoted the bit about the Guetta-fication of R&B from yr Miguel review.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 22 October 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

sweet. could you send to me? i'd be interested in reading that.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 October 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)

Sure! I *think* I just sent you an email via ilx's email thingy, but I'm not sure it worked (haven't used this before). Lemme know if you got the msg.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 22 October 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

oh i never check that email

just email me at jordanmsargent at gmail

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 October 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

Btw guys can search Scruff users by username now which can be really amusing:

http://i.imgur.com/tT1sk.jpg

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/B4R9w.jpg

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/IbOoc.jpg

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

these pretzels are makeing me horney

tuplet nester (clouds), Monday, 22 October 2012 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

where are my fem4fems at?

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 22 October 2012 04:42 (thirteen years ago)

congratulations drew / RIP melancholy albatross ;_;

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, 22 October 2012 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

i had a pretty great fall weekend. worked my restaurant shift friday, got a $20 handshake which was cool. i did my thrift store thing saturday & found a new thrift store & a bunch of great pendleton shirts, then went down to my friend's off-season beach house rental for dinner. yesterday had homemade brunch & then went apple & quince picking with new gay friends in town. concluded sunday drinking mulled cider with bourbon. autumn is cool.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, 22 October 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know if I've had a quince yet. Are they apple-like?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't either! but i don't think they're very edible when raw, our friend is going to use them to make membrillo, which is like a quince jelly common to spanish cuisine & served with manchego iirc

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, 22 October 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

anyway i was up a tree picking & tossing quinces down to people and telling them to call me quincy, it was kinda fun

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, 22 October 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

sounds lovely

tuplet nester (clouds), Monday, 22 October 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

I just arrived at my dad's place in rural Quebec. I'm here to do some score revisions and I thought it'd be fun to work on them with my dad, who is a comp hobbyist and is also bedridden w Crohn's. Next to the coffee maker is a spreadsheet with every relative and family friend's milk and sugar preferences, and it is very detailed, incl. coffee and tea, milk and cream, stovetop or press, AM and PM.

sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 22 October 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

My dad is pretty un-gay despite having two gay-leaning sons and a bisexual daughter. Last time I went to a wedding, he raised an eyebrow and said, "a... gay wedding?" with much disapproval. That said, I'm surrounded by brass rubbings, he's got nice cheese in the fridge and we're listening to Franck organ music. I turned on his electric keyboard and it was set to "harpsichord + vibraphone". I love my dad.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

That coffee chart is fantastic!!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

i've never met another person who knew the franck organ music

tuplet nester (clouds), Monday, 22 October 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

For real? You should meet more organists, once you run out of Bach it's straight on to Franck.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

Unfortunately he's really not feeling well today and we might spend the day in the doctor's office :( poor dad

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

i don't have many musical friends irl, and don't tend to get along with classical musicians in general for some reason (at least the ones i've met).

tuplet nester (clouds), Monday, 22 October 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Probably bc we're insufferable tbh

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

it's the myopia that bugs me the most

tuplet nester (clouds), Monday, 22 October 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

brass rubbings!

feel better, dad.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 October 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I can see it. In others and self. I think the problem is far deeper than that, though, the rigid enforcement of athletic competition upon "art practice", plus the psychological damage (or what have you) of spending five hours a day doing exercises, fucks people up

I get along much better now w classical people than I did ten years ago, actively reconnecting with friends from school and so forth

My dad got a fever, we're on our way to emergency, boooo, relaxing family time turns to purposeful family time

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah my dad is a Medievalist fruit, he's got rubbings in the wall and Caravaggio prints and writes w calligraphy pens and owns and plays a harpsichord, a pipe organ building hobbyist. Currently retired but still does entomological consulting. Was SysOp for a bumblebee-focused BBS in the 80s and 90s called BombusNet. Nobody's business I guess but he's a cool guy and I hope these doctor's know what they're doing

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

oh boy sorry to read that good luck

surm, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

doctors, that is, I'm nervously typing on a phone

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah it's fine, he'll be OK I'm sure. I'm just not certain that Crohn's is anything more than "not cancer, but something else!" and that he's got some more serious condition that they're unable to yet diagnose

Sorry for cluttering up the gay thread with gastroenteritis, that shit is gay kryptonite

I thought today was gonna be abt organ music all day and some bird watching, not nervously pace-and-post

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

don't apologize <3

surm, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

sorry o, your dad sounds like a rare sort. hope things turn around.

tuplet nester (clouds), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

hope everything goes ok with yr dad, goon tie

dreamed last night that i planned a trip to toronto! in which i was told it was only "a few subway stops" from buffalo

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Plan that trip, Toronto rules

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

*S*A*R*S* thwarted me from going there on a HS band trip but it seems like a Cool Place

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

toronto is definitely a cool place. it gets a bad rap in certain parts of canada, but it's a good time.

hope things work out with yr dad, o.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

I spent much of my youth in love with Toronto, but Montreal obliterated much of that when I finally visited it for the first time a few years back. I've heard Toronto described, derisively one assumes, as "a Canadian city for Americans." This has nothing to do with MY preference for one over the other, but Montreal feels more unique to me in a way in which may or may not be uniquely Canadian (over familiarity with Toronto at this point prob has a lot to do with it too.

Best wishes to you and yr dad, o.p.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 22 October 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

oh, i mean. this is my city, i just mean that toronto gets a lot of flack in mtl sometimes and it's not as bad as ppl say it is.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 October 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

This is a perennial comment, but: nobody in Toronto cares what Montreallers think about us + we don't talk smack about Montreal bc your city is awesome + visit us and eat of our delicious ethnic food, warm yourself

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking of which AO I'm gonna be in Montreal in a few days we should have a "moment"

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

i always thought montreal was more touristy than toronto, but maybe that's just bc i have relatives in the toronto? i dunno, i mean i hear way more stories about young people crossing the border to visit montreal than i do toronto

surm, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

(that was in response to the city for americans bit)

surm, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

(but i realize that's different than a conversation about tourism, i'm just kind of blabbing)

surm, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

More happy thoughts yr way. Apologies are entirely unnecessary; it gets boring if all we can talk about is fucking and My So-Called Life

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

My dad is resting comfortably, it's cool, was just a shock to visit for the first time in a few years and have it immediately be waiting rooms and worrying

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks for the kind words, all
I'll scan and post some hilarious childhood photos later
Serious face + blond + nerdfat

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

cool! let me know days/times. this week is less busy than the past few weeks and than november will be, so i should be pretty flexible.

he said, on ilx instead of reading up on rawlsian distributive justice.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't dissing Toronto above, for the record. Still love the city, its just that Montreal has since replaced it as my dream home.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

Oh no, me too. It's just a matter of time

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Montreal felt more exotic to me bcz I said two words of French to a shop cashier before getting busted as une poseur.

(also cuz I saw Arcade Fire play in a Salvation Army temple I guess)

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

in paris i definitely said "bonsoir" to a boulangere at like 9am, among many other bunglings of the french language

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

xp

salvation army temple?

lol. when was this morbz. i'm trying to think of weird places they've played here and besides the big outdoor shows all i can think about were the neon bible-era repurposed ukranian church.

which like a) great show(s). b) great venue - i saw joanna newsom at the Ukranian Nat'l Federation a few years back and more recently xiu xiu and BRAIDS and it's always so lovely.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

It was the week the debut album came out, Sept '04. (also the last week the Expos played which was obv my #1 reason for visiting)

http://jeremybrendan.blogspot.com/2004/09/live-arcade-fire-salvation-army.html

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

rip expos. sigh.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

i wasn't in montreal until the following september. iirc, they played the black sheep inn just outside of ottawa around then, and a bunch of us in high school spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to best get out there.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

I've been to Sault Ste. Marie and Cranbrook, BC. They were not exotic, though they seemed so at the time b/c I was a youngster and tout le francais all over the place was thrilling.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 22 October 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

Plus all the extra British U's in various wourds.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 22 October 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

ilx gay fap 2013: canada

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

I have yet to see baseball in Vancouver or Quebec.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

xp I am there

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

I'm reading Team of Rivals and man, these 19th-century American lawyer-politicians loved writing passionate letters to each other and sharing beds.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

sold xp

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

idly looking at flights to toronto and now i'm all "oh so THAT'S why rush called that song that"

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

Hahaha I remember thinking that the first time I found that out as well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 October 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

What Rush song?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

"Fly By Night"?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 October 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Pearson_International_Airport

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 22 October 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

Am now lying in bed next to dad at home introducing him to The Thick Of It

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 October 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

in 2015 y'all can visit me in hokkaido

tuplet nester (clouds), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

ilx gay fap 2013: canada

― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, October 22, 2012 3:05 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shall I risk being the newb who asks what a "fap" is, assuming, naturally, that it isn't what I think it means (Google "gay fap" and see what happens).

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

it's a traditional ilx virgin sacrifice rite

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

we're gonna sacrifice gay virgins?

seems like a waste.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

jer, fap is an acronym for "fancy a pint?' and "a fap" became the ILX only word for any kind of social event organised by ILXors even if pints or drinks were not involved.

jed_, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

haha. yeah. it confused me for AGES.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:28 (thirteen years ago)

but when i started here i ventured into the scary boards of in-jokes and tried to figure out what best beloved whatever was. i quickly returned to the relative safety of ILM and the gay threads.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:28 (thirteen years ago)

ah! then yes! bring the fap to Canada!

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:29 (thirteen years ago)

I'm having a fap with Stevie D tomorrow!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

first time?

tuplet nester (clouds), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

yep -- he's in town

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

No, he's FAPped lots of times (/Airplane!)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 02:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2m77bKsq1qm1nj3o1_500.gif

jed_, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

:D

tuplet nester (clouds), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 02:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/3243241_o.gif

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

do I go with M to a wedding on saturday or do I say no and make him go on his own and go to a halloween party at a friend's house instead

lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

he will be away all next week, I'm already going to say I can't go to italy with him

lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

That sounds like a draw: events both of you planned before you met each other. No harm done if you don't go to the wedding.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

I had a fap with Alfred tonight!

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

I definitely fancy a pint tonight (see how fast I catch on?!) . I'm loving bring back in school but after seven years it has definitely taken some getting used to.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

*being back

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)

wellz I have to work tomorrow day/evening in MTL but I'm determined to catch up with all friends there both real and imaginary

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:34 (thirteen years ago)

ok! i have work from 1 to 5, and work thursday morning, but wednesday evening i'm around and free and i can probably bail on some thursday afternoon class responsibilities if that's the only workable possibility. if you're here as late as friday, my fridays are quite literally empty of things to do, so thursday night and/or friday also work.

text me.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:37 (thirteen years ago)

I have no schedule, I just y'know "acquiesce to the cliental request", but yeah let's fap and you can teach me how to sue the bastard

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:44 (thirteen years ago)

haha. wish i knew how.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 04:38 (thirteen years ago)

That sounds like a draw: events both of you planned before you met each other. No harm done if you don't go to the wedding.

― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:08 PM

i disagree here. you should go to the wedding with him. you don't have to go, of course, but if he asked you it's rude to say no. & so you can go to a halloween party? are you nuts? asking someone to be your partner at a wedding is obviously a big thing - a stage in a relationship type thing - and it would be churlish to refuse him.

jed_, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed with jed. I mean, sure, I'd much rather go to a Halloween party than a wedding, but this will win you major points.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

I do hate Halloween though.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

I love every last thing about Halloween except for the dressing in costume part.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Like, if I ruled the world, it would be mandatory that everyone only watch classic horror movies for at least the two weeks leading up to the day. No new movies would be released during this period.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

^^^

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

I love every last thing about Halloween except for the dressing in costume part.

This. And eating candy. Fuck candy to hell.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Candy is dandy, but horror I adorer.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Byron couldn't have written it more gracefully.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Bleed on my face.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

WTF candy is the best

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

I do hate Halloween though.

^^^^^^^

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

liquor is quicker, and I can't drink any of that shit indefinitely, which nobody came right out and told me.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

enjoy http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZUvWupigfEs/R1ScbKIzyuI/AAAAAAAAACw/6DiEctphTkc/s1600-R/cuponred.gif

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Instead of "allying" for marriage equality, gays and straights would be best off pushing for legislation wiping Halloween off the calendar.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

certainly ppl who don't have kids should not have to answer the fucking door.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

xp you are so old-fashioned

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

On my first Halloween living alone, realizing I'd forgotten to buy candy, I hid in the bathroom for fear the kids would hear me walking around the apartment.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

btw I'd a marvelous time with Stevie last night: a good dinner, drinks, and a peep into a surprisingly bumpin' Tuesday night at a hip joint downtown.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Instead of "allying" for marriage equality, gays and straights would be best off pushing for legislation wiping Halloween off the calendar.

You've managed to land on the one lobby that would turn me into table.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Wit, you guys hate Halloween cause you have o hand out candy?

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

*wait

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

A problem easily solved by not turning on your front light iirc.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

That was a blast. We went to some graffiti-themed restaurant with drinks named FUTURA and Shepard Fairey and Ryan McGinley which was p lol but the fingerling-chorizo hash they served us was nothing to laugh at and I am fairly cross that I don't have any in front if me right now

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

A "yes" on OKC to the question "do you like horror movies" is one of the only things I've made mandatory.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

I really want Morbs to get a big piece of posterboard and make a SCRAM, YOU LITTLE SHITS sign for his door

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

I buy candy every year but the Message Went Out that the Grinch in Apartment 104 hid in the bathroom in 2005.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

I have a doorman, which means we only get no-neck monsters from inside the building. I think there were two last year. Which means if I buy any candy I have to eat nearly all of it.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

we have kids in my apt building but not enough to justify buying a bunch of bags of candy that i'm just gonna eat myself anyway

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol xp?

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

Jeez, you ppl. All it takes for me to justify buying a big bag of candy is "oh look there's a big bag of candy on that shelf, I want it, let me go buy it"

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

I should be That Guy who throws pennies in the trick or treat bags.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'd just swipe a half-dozen pieces from other people's desks at work the day before. No muss, no fuss.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Like on Nov 1 imma head down to superfresh and just buy like 6 bags of Mounds and Raisinets and Butterfingers for 75% off, y'all can just chill behind w yr rice cakes

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

we will chill behind and beneath our fingerling-chorizo hash and ropa vieja empanadas, thanks

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

You'll both be chilling in the bathroom or on your charcoal-filled seat cusions imo.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

guys i'm eating yogurt stop it

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

will take hash and empanadas over candy tbh

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

I can get behind a Nov 1 chocolate binge as long as my bottle of vanilla vodka has to sit untouched in the cabinet.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

also, no str8 ppl taking the hint that I need to watch the World Series on their couch tonight

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

i like halloween, just not so much this year. can't be bothered

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno guys, must admit i'm pretty excited about my Bane costume this year. :)

boss & toss (lou), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

well, now I'm excited about it too!

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, looking forward to that pic tbh.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

Will probably just shave my head and wear that skull face scarf I bought.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

Shit, I haven't even thought about costumes yet. Though for the past 3 years I've wanted to go as either Mary Hartman or Camilla Rhodes

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

the rumor that you will be Black Swan is unfounded, Eric?

hah SD i can tot see you in the pigtails.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

bf trying to get me to go all out and shave all my hair off. don't think i can handle that.

boss & toss (lou), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Trying to decide what this year's Halloween classic horror should be. Did The Thing last year. Too easy for me to just fall back on The Shining.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

Phantasm

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

I could never be the Black Swan. Reason: "That was me seducing you. It needs to be the other way around."

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

well, i decided to go to the wedding after all - he's off to italy the next day so i won't see him for a week (why i'm not going with him is a mystery, i was invited but i am incapable of being spontaneous, esp with my own money, but GOD, HOT WEATHER seems so tempting)

how do people find the time to be in relationships? i feel like i literally can't cope with juggling work/life admin/making time to see him. I DON'T HAVE THIS MUCH TIME IN MY LIFE. and this is just to see him 2-3 times per week, those couples who are permanently with each other are just a total mystery (never wanna be like them either)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

If I ever get a companion, it's separate bedrooms.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

If I ever get a companion, I'm going to crawl inside their body.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

if i ever live with a boyfriend (LOL) separate bedrooms is a must

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Ugh but then there's so much time wasted in commuting

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

Time gained in sleeping imo

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

Cohabitation > everything
I've lived w some slobby derpressed lovers too but it makes everything fantastic

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

It occurs to me I could probably pull off a Joaquin in The Master Halloween costume this year.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

my boyfriend is literally my favorite human being in the world and i get sad when we are apart for very long so that's my excuse

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Cohabitation > everything

better than a Hendrick's martini with a twist?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

the gin and the twist are cohabitating

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

my boyfriend is literally my favorite human being in the world and i get sad when we are apart for very long so that's my excuse

this is one of those sentiments that makes me squint at people and wonder if they can teach me to be human

and i LIKE a boy atm and everything

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

It's the mutual thing that's hard for me to buy in many cases. Like, I can clearly see in a lot of relationships where one person is more devoted to the other one. But I'm sure there are tradeoffs.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

I get slightly crazy when bf isn't around and do things like overshare on message boards
He's on vacation right now, took off to Istanbul the bastard
When he's around I'm twice as good, squint away
He's sending me some extremely delicious looking food photos

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

mmmm food porn

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

We're total opposites, though, he un-WASPs me and defuses my anxiety, gets me out of workaholic mode, and in turn I help him with logic, punctuality and comprehension
(You can tell which one is the hit at the party)

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

Can you both play cribbage?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

No
Different gaming styles. He once overturned a card table bc I wouldn't show my hand after out betting him
He's fun, you'd like him
We sleep together and shower together but watch different TV shows
Him: Project Runway, Top Chef. Me: Game of Thrones, RuPaul

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

i have co-habbing fantasies (mostly = trolling craigslist rentals for 1-BRs with yards)

before this relationship i'd forgotten how nice it is to shower together

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh I love showering together.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

seems counterproductive!

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

how do people find the time to be in relationships? i feel like i literally can't cope with juggling work/life admin/making time to see him. I DON'T HAVE THIS MUCH TIME IN MY LIFE. and this is just to see him 2-3 times per week, those couples who are permanently with each other are just a total mystery (never wanna be like them either)

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:35 (1 hour ago) Permalink

if you move in together then it's really not some laborious task or duty involving scheduling and seeing if you can squeeze someone in etc. I live with my boyfriend and it's great. TMI but: I wake up first and I go feed the cat and make the coffee and bring him a cup in bed and then I get dressed and walk out the door to my job. I come home, there is, he/we cook dinner, talk, do our thing- sometimes together, sometimes I go off and take care of whatever I need to take care of, then, when it's time to go to bed, there he is. We read to each other in bed, working through novels a chapter a night. Repeat. We also make records together and go on tour together and spend months and months being together all day everyday, but we can just as easily break out and accomplish things on our own, even with very time consuming jobs. i.e. you can be joined at the ass in the sense of tight with each other, really close and intuitively connected without being, er, "joined at the ass" in the sense of caught in a co-dependent and high maintenance vortex of nagging and obligation that sucks up all your time and energy. The workload for my job is really intense, no kidding, I am often in my office working until 2 am- but my bf helps me handle that. I have found that having a boyfriend makes it easier to do your job well- there's someone else to help you out in lots of big and little ways domestically and emotionally, and yeah that's a two way street and you need to help them out sometimes too, but it really is possible to do a demanding job while still having a boyfriend. Just saying it's not a choice between Option A and Option B. I'm not saying you should want this or that there's one normative pattern for "smug marrieds" and everyone else is rong, but I am saying a relationship should (ideally) make you more rather than less capable of being yourself. This Halloween will be our 20th anniversary.

the tune was space, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Nah you wash each other's backs, it rules

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

A married couple friend(s) of mine once told me how they shower together every day and my first reaction was "gross."

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

I have found that having a boyfriend makes it easier to do your job well- there's someone else to help you out in lots of big and little ways domestically and emotionally

Yeah, this would be sweet.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

dr$w otm

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

that was an xp

Congrats on your anniversary, dude. Awesome post too.
No problem with "smug marrieds", myself, after a lifetime of enduring "you won't feel your life has purpose until you have children" shit in every book and film forever

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sure that's all true, it's just hard to wrap your head around in the abstract re a Domestic Partner X.

(X has always been unavailable)

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

We read to each other in bed, working through novels a chapter a night.

completely adorable, jeez

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

I'm going to start living my life in a manner that allows me to deserve that.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

i.e. not react badly if people buy me a drink

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

drew completely otm, i mean ideally the work you perform sustaining and caring for each other is not burdensome, and it's nice when somebody can pack your lunch before you leave or have a dinner waiting for you and vice versa, or however you choose to divide the tasks of daily life

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

shared showers are pretty great too

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

When baby got diagnosed w high blood pressure and had to cut out bacon, it was extremely pleasurable to buy and serve him raw almonds in the morning as he hissed "I want to dieeee" (he loved bacon)

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i don't think of it as a burden at all to cook/buy food for B if i know he's super-stressed from his job. i like doing it!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

this is not the kind of thing i was complaining about fyi

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

that is the kind of long-termness i have never really got to so i wouldn't know

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

The giving up whole and total autonomy thing?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

i do like being the Boss o' Me

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

Think of how much fun it would be to boss someone else around part-time, tho.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

I've tried, they don't obey.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

idk lex "how do you find the time" is kind of a moot question when you live together

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

i've known him two months, any and all talk of living together is itself a moot point

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

Well, you know what chefs say about a watched pot...

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

it's safe from burglary?

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

it produces dank shit?

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

not to totally stomp all over the domestic happiness of the thread, but how many near-breakup arguments/dicussions/tearfests can one have in a six-day span before an insistence on both of your parts that you don't actually want to break up becomes kind of futile?

because we're at three. sigh.

and if that's not too many, does anyone have advice on the appropriate balance between recognizing that someone you care about is going through a rough patch and supporting them vs. ignoring your own needs, emotional and otherwise? is letting inconsiderate behaviour etc. fly because of context acceptable?

i feel like we're past the worst of it - the epicentre was saturday night, when he did something that really upset me, which he hasn't fully acknowledged as wrong - but four days out, we're still having these mini get-our-backs-up bickerings that are tricky to de-escalate. at this point, i just feel exhausted. i want to be happy and with him, and i want him to be happy, but he's not? and his unhappiness has to do with a lot of other things, many of which he's started to really address/change/etc. and he's been visibly feeling a lot better this week, but the good mood of new friends/new things/job applications/etc. turns into interspersed contentment/frustration/moodiness at the end of the day when i show up, and i want to ride it out, but i don't want it to be the new normal. and i don't want to be bringing him down. \(o0)/

plus, no matter how often he insists it isn't the case, it's really striking when your bf had the most incredible day until seeing you, at which point every other sentence becomes a potential source of tension/misinterpretation/etc.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

also, i got a rejection letter re: second round interviews from one of the three jobs i did first-round interviews for two weeks ago. and after finally doing laundry at the boy's place last night, i was walking twenty minutes back to my place with it and it started raining.

it's that sort of day.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

Oh jeez I want to come to MTL w some cookies and give you a hug

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

i mean - maybe we will be ok?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

I do hope ao

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

so, even

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

aw Alex. I raise a glass in your honor. Wish I could be there.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno. things are too complicated to talk about on a messageboard. lol

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

honestly, half of me wants to figure out how to make us perfect and wonderful and having lots of sex and being awesome and half of me wants us to just be stable/drama-free/happy enough for me to not make relationship drama the primary focus of my brain and feelings until i have a little more time/space to breathe.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

anyway, gonna go ignore work in favour of noms because food is important.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

don't be a doormat. you can be supportive but there's a fine line, and no matter what the situation, you need to back yourself up.

also fights do not mean you should give. imo the best things almost break like fifty times before you find the right balance. generally speaking i think structural solutions are best, finding out what the fight's really about.

surm, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

*fights do not mean you should give up

surm, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

Alex I'm heading you-know-where if you wanna come
Your relationship is young, be cool and don't sweat it

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

Also surm is smarts

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

Alex, I forget: do you live together?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

Oh god no. We do not live together. Last year we lived a block away from each other and saw each other ALL the time and this year he lives with two girl/friends and two kittens and finding the healthy space/not seeing each other enough balance is kind of happening?

Although he is oddly reticent to come to my place and I really need to be at my place more often/often enough to have structure and functionality etc.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

I am very happy having my own (+ my roommate's) space. We did the super domestic thing and I like it especially the cooking together and cuddling but if we ever live together I will require an Alex-room where I can be disorganized and nerdy and read etc.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

i mean . . . . it sounds like he is really playing this alpha dog card

making you adjust to him

better watch that

surm, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

O - I texted you! On my way now although I might do a bit of absent-minded work while eating for a bit before things get going. Also I have some friends who were possibly going so they might show up fair warning although they are generally chill people

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, montrealers!

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

It's not an alpha dog card so much as very severe OCD which is diagnosed and being treated as of may-ish but is still a thing. It is miles ahead of the first year and a bit when it was not at all diagnosed but it is something to navigate.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway. Fun now. :)

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

ah. i too have very severe ocd. it's not cute.

surm, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

but then again i also have OPD so it's hard to keep them straight

surm, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

My trouble, which I explained to Stevie last night: I'm more comfortable with this particular chap as a Friend With Benefits rather than a boyfriend. His sexual history and certain inclinations have made me wary to the point that I mistrust his health.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

it's hard to keep them straight

interesting metaphor

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

meow

surm, Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

I want a friend with benefits like I want to me made out of broccoli.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

be

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

alex, sympathies

a short history of takei (clouds), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think i'd see any reason to stay in a relationship if there were three emotionally draining shouting matches within a week. i don't need relationship drama in my life.

the time thing i was complain about is exactly what's happening today, it's really very ordinary but annoying: he's coming over tonight (we haven't seen each other this week yet), i won't have finished the reviews i need to have finished by the time he gets here, and then when he gets here won't have any chance to finish them off. it's annoying because the stuff i've left unfinished will be on my mind and stressing me out all the time he's here, and i don't seem to be able to get to the optimal place of being able to wholly enjoy actually seeing him because there's always something fucking else i haven't managed to do.

lex pretend, Thursday, 25 October 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

why haven't i finished them already? that's a GOOD FUCKING QUESTION and one that i seem to ask myself every day of my life, in or out of a relationship

lex pretend, Thursday, 25 October 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

The point of staying in a relationship w relationship drama is usu that the high are so high that it outweighs the lows, even when they're p low lows.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

Well, theoretically no, re: shouting matches,

My relationship with bf developed at the same time as a couple of close friends of ours who are super vanilla, lovely guys, always turned out with hands held etc. etc. They got married pretty early on. Bf and I would fight fight fight a lot lot lot, once every two weeks there'd be shouting and angst and anger. We'd always look at vanilla couple and say, "why can't we be more like those guys?"

The watershed moment for us-- as I told Alex last night-- was when we committed to not let 'breaking up' be a poker chip, like, a mental one. Because it had been. Every fight we'd been in, there was that nagging feeling, like, "omg I can't believe this is so difficult and I want to walk away", exactly what lex is saying: "i don't need relationship drama in my life"

So as cheesecake as it sounds, we admitted that we wanted to be together and that we wouldn't let a fight break us up

And then the fights stopped immediately

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 October 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

i think with me it's that i actually dislike confrontation a lot - or that's not entirely accurate, if i'm up for confrontation it's because i've already made up my mind that i don't care about or respect the person i'm confronting. i've almost never had a shouting match with a friend, and the times i have, it was usually the death of the friendship right there. i kind of figure it's the kind of thing you can't go back from.

a lot of it, with friends and boys, is that: i like this person and enjoy their company, so why would i shout at them over a little thing if i can keep that annoyance suppressed? and if it's a not-so-little thing, well, do i like them that much then?

lex pretend, Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Oh totally. Thing is that I'm not describing "fights" as being a result of actual personal differences, but-- in my case, and possibly Alex's-- a manifestation of a desire for stability.

Eight years ago, for example, if bf went out with our friends but didn't call me and let me know, and I'd be working at home instead of being informed that there was 'something happening', there would be a "why didn't you call me" + "did you not want me there" + "do you not want to be with me" flow chart that would turn into an argument.

Now, bf will literally tell me he's going away w/friends for a week (to Istanbul, as I mentioned!) and he'll actually tell me the night before he leaves, like, "surprise! you're not coming! stay here and get some work done!"

Before we agreed to commit, I probably would've had a meltdown but now I'm mostly just charmed.

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

That said there are other long term relationships I know where that same pushing of boundaries has resulted in one-sided drug use and extra-relationship affairs under the guise of "who cares? we're committed!" and that can get dark indeed

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

it would literally never occur to me to turn that scenario into a fight. at the very most if i was feeling particularly whiny i would maybe sulk for a minute

lex pretend, Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Ha yes well this was eight years ago, age 24 or thereabouts, a more dramatic age

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

whenever i'm feeling hurt or annoyed or whatever it helps me to remember the reason my bf and i decided to stay together in the first place, which is that we admire each other and our respective life goals and that we want to mutually help each other achieve those goals.

right now ph1l is kind of in the supporter mode as i'm not working, which i'm aware could cause tension if one isn't considerate, so i try to be perspicuous in letting him know i'm doing as much as i can to help and that our relationship is one of equals

a short history of takei (clouds), Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

FBTI, forgive me for this, but have you previously posted here with another handle for awhile? I can't remember and feel bad about it.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

er, FGTI :)

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to ask too.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

Fgti = 0w3n p.

Who was really awesome and wonderful last night and lifted my spirits greatly with a bunch of trivia and hangouts.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, OK! Sorry about that.

Alex, sorry things are more fighty than righty.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

And yeah! You're totally on the money about these fights mostly being about the stability thing and misreading each others' signaling re: seriousness and whatnot. It's almost two years in and it feels like a certain level of seriousness is/should exist and sometimes tiny things filtered through
Insecurities call that into question and result in tiffs.

I mean, there are sometimes root problems at the heart of it i.e. specific things to work on, but even then that's filtered through the lens of 'if this probably temporary issue turns into a new static aspect of our relationship what is the impact on my assessment of whether this is long-term viable?'

Which again, he's 22 and I'm 25 this should maybe not be the main concern. But it's floating around there and mixing with some life path uncertainty he has going on and it gets messy

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

Side note: Guys, I actually replied to a message from someone on OKC. Noncommittally, but this is kinda a big step for me. Next up, sending one.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

Honestly I was feeling totally A+ by the time I got home at 5 am about just giving him some space to figure out where he is at with stuff and not overcrowd, but then he called this morning to say he was glad we had the talk we did last night about ~stuff~ and that the space will be good but said it in a way that is weird and vaguely non-committal about what direction we are moving in? Like after a direct question it seems that we are still boyfriends but he thinks space to figure things out for each of us without expectations would be good? Which sounds like a break but he's not wanting/calling this a break and he's being totally vague on if he still wants to be seeing each other a few times a week or if he means -space- space. So essentially I'm just gonna relax and play it by ear and wait to hear from him whenever he figures it out. Talking about it or actively trying to convince him of something will only get his back up.

Feeling strangely zen about it all.

Which means for the time being I can shut up about my relationship drama and instead be REALLY EXCITED for Eric. Yay!

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Also, Lex, don't worry - "why have I not finished my shit that I need to do in time to socialize without guilt?" Is a question I perpetually face also.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like handle changes are all the rage lately! I'm the poster formerly known as j3r.fa1ra11, btw. Felt like it was time to make myself less googleable.

Alex, really sorry to hear that things are crap right now. It's funny, I always feel severely ill equipped at giving out relationship advise despite being in one of 10+ years. I have to think its a combination of sheer luck and the commitment and insistence of a strong willed partner that has kept us together this long. Certainly this is something I could not have managed through my own efforts without the assistance of the some combination of the two.

The 20s are rocky for long term relationships, I guess, particularly the part where you are still working out the direction your life is going in terms of career and whatnot. The cool part is when you reach the point where you know that whatever you end up doing, they're likely to follow (and vice versa). It certainly lessens the anxieties of career and relationship when you know that one is settled. And as for Lex's issue, only thing I can say is that the guilt over not socializing later turns into, even when/if yr living together, guilt over ignoring them while you work. Especially if your S.O. thinks it's kind of silly and mean for you to be ignoring him and the puppy in the next room so you can crank out overthought opinions on Justin Bieber.

And yeah, the whole "will every fight result in a break up?" stage is the worst. I wouldn't go back to that for anything.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

(that Justin Bieber thing was a specific personal reference, btw. I don't remember if Lex has reviewed any Bieber, or ignored anyone in the process of doing so.)

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Hey, so I finally got together with D again last night. (Btw, +1 to coshowering) I really like him but I kind of have the problem lex does but maybe moreso cause he lives in the city and I live 45 mins out and only go down to Seattle once or twice a week (or not) for social/cultural things. And when I was in the city for several days continuously earlier this month, he was visiting home in Detroit. A couple other times we tried to arrange something together one of us was busy or not up for it. So we finally just got together again after like a month plus. We really like each other though!

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

As a side note, and maybe this is TMI, I kind of have a sexual conundrum. I really enjoy being submissive, but I really do not enjoy being penetrated. One kind of leads to the other though. I love the idea in theory and fantasize about it all the time but when it happens I'm just kind of like...oh right, I don't like that. Trying to figure out how to reconcile this.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

well, there are all kinds of ways to be submissive, as I'm sure you've discovered. Do what makes you (and somebody else) happy.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

xpost practice

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

I'm glad this has gone TMI. One of my problems with the guy I'm seeing is his confessions of liking "deviant" (his word) sex with strangers: bus stops, rest stops, gas stations. Although I'm not prude and don't mind open relationships, my reluctance to get penetrated has become -- no other phrase -- a sore point. I'm still wary of him, his impulsiveness, and the theoretical plagues he carries.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

uh, that is basically gone beyond psychological danger into actual physical danger. i would avoid, for real.

toto coolio (clouds), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that's like the difference between liking horror movies and being in one.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie, with whom I discussed this the other day, agreed. I love my independence so much though that I wonder whether I second guess myself: using quirks, fetishes, and neuroses to avoid the complexity of dealing intimately with another human being.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

I pursued Ortonesque deviancy at various times but never did any 'high risk' activities.... it sounds like you know this is not the case with this guy.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

i'm ok with indulging quirks/fetishes/neuroses so long as they're not adverse or harmful to the myself/the other person/the relationship and the other person is willing to indulge in mine a little too, since i certainly have some of my own. otoh, the sort of thing you describe, alfred, sounds pretty risky and i wouldn't put up with it personally.

i used to say that i was the total inverse of a "bossy bottom" ("timid top"?)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

In his defense, he sounds ready to be monogamous but I can't get reststopsexgerms out of my head.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

It's not clear to me the specific thing that is causing you worry about health. Is it a. The sex w/ strangers, per se, b. The location of those encounters, c. Specific "deviant" activities that are likely to cause infection?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

I've done it in apartments that were less clean than rest stops.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

The most dangerous thing I've ever done was leave his apartment while he was sleeping and not lock the door behind me.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

You've had sex before????

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

zing

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Wait that sounded really rude and wasn't supposed to

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Rev, is it a pain thing? Bcz I've talked to (and uh shown) a lot of guys who were averse to bottoming bcz tbey were doing it wrong (going too fast, not stretching enough, not enough lube, awk position, etc.) Like you really don't want to be putting a cock in there unless you've been doing it regularly or you've spent a good 10-15 minutes with some fingers first.

Though if it's a nervousness/mental discomfort thing that is different

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

It is worth persistence though bcz when you get it right it is like daaaaaamn

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ (moments when you forget that lots of other non-gays follow this thead oops sry loltmi)

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Eh, think of it as educating the masses.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

itt: butthole pleasures

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Xposts I can count the number on one hand, so basically no, I haven't.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

butthole pleasures

someone with photoshop skills needs to get to work altering the joy division album cover

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Wait number of ppl or number of TIMES? Or are their boundaries coterminous?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ coterminous

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

pain; not a lot of pleasure

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

also alfred: get tested together, let him know you won't put up with high-risk activities

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

good idea!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

pain; not a lot of pleasure

Stevie's Guide To The Butt:

  • lots of lube*, both on you and him
  • slooowwwly start with one finger, then two fingers, then three
  • take dat pee-pee
Like I said this should happen over like 10 minutes, not 3. You may get to the fingers part and stop why bcz it feels interesting: joints, more dexterity, the ability to seek out and focus on different spots, etc.

*NEVER use lube w numbing agents (often marketed as anal-specific lube though some anal-specific lubes are just thicker and have no numbing chemicals), bcz if it hurts yr body is telling you to stop. NEVER use a "warming" lube (trust).

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

People, tho times easily on two hands.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Deborah Kerr: "Not without an adding machine!"

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

More like Deborah Whorr.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://youtu.be/yydxdWaoOJg

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yydxdWaoOJg

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

buttsecks is awesome; in both roles

toto coolio (clouds), Friday, 26 October 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)

so, that's that.

after pretty much no contact for 36 hours, he popped online this morning and during pleasant conversation about my job interviews and his job applications for various museum things, he casually mentioned that he probably wouldn't come to rocky horror with my friends and i this weekend because per his request i'd been giving him space and he'd been feeling better and he wanted more space for unspecified time.

so i inquired if 'more space' meant 'breaking up' and he didn't want to do it, but he mostly wanted me to do it. he said too stressed and anxious etc. for a relationship right now, and i guess taking the romantic relationship-pressure off of us means that he can be friends with me without feeling anxious and i can support him without resenting him for being a crappy boyfriend?

i'd pretty much knew at some level that this was an inevitably and last night i'd made my peace with it and i am 100% sure it's for the best but i still kind of feel like crying and being gross but instead i need to go to an appointment and then get work done.

more excitingly, i got (at least) one second-round job interview. So, huzzah!

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

Goddamn, Alex. I'm sorry. Come to happy hour – I'll buy you a drink.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

:-/

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

so sorry, alex. wishing you well. keep your head up, crush that interview, & remember that the gaylxors love you.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Friday, 26 October 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Very sorry to hear, Alex. Now go kill that interview (what is the job, if its ok to talk abt here?).

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 26 October 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

:(

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 26 October 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

sorry to hear this alex, comforting vibes your way

lex pretend, Friday, 26 October 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Job interview isn't until November 5th. Basically law is insane and at the beginning of your second last year of school you apply to a bunch of summer jobs and go through multi-step interview processes and get a job in theory by December for the summer and then if they like you at the end of the summer they invite you back for post-graduation when (in Canada) you have to article for a year - kind of a vestigial mandatory apprenticeship year. Unlike the us you can't just write the bar and start practicing. Then at the end of the articling year they can hire you back as a first-year associate etc.

But the only people who can really afford to hire summer and often articling students are bigger and some mid-sized firms and also the government. So all the people who don't get kept on post-articling or dont want to stay then can go on to in house counsel stuff or smaller firms or non-profits or whatever. Oh and you can clerk for a judge instead of articling iirc

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, so a month ago were the first round of Toronto interviews where I got one with leg4l aid and two with small boutique firms that do a mix of litigation and also some really awesome cool social justice-y type work. The downside of those is that unlike big firms who hire ~20 or so a summer, these hire three. They interviewed 20 from my school first round but take only 18 nationally for second round for 3 spots so the odds were never amazing but I'm still a bit miffed. But I got a second round with Leg4l A1D so that isn't bad and there are lots of other applications in the future.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

Honestly at the moment I am mostly annoyed that my hq headphones are malfunctioning, thereby preventing me from basking in TS' "Last Kiss". Which, I can't even remember when ours was so how am I supposed to appropriately create a narrative moment for me to experience here. Lol.

Hallowe'ekend will involve much dancing and it's traditionally when my friends and I pivot in and out of relationships. Last year two of my best friends broke up with long term partners just before Halloween and one of them just started dating someone so it was time.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

kind of a vestigial mandatory apprenticeship year

Man, I sort of wish every vocation required this.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

(Incidentally, found out the guy who bought my two drinks without telling me last week is partnered. Why do I fly off the handle like this?)

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

you need your handle tightened.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Tightness would appear to be the main problem.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

Two fingers should do it.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lb0hvyE9wQ1qc1ukho1_500.jpg

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't even bothered making plans for h'ween as i know i will blow them off anyway

toto coolio (clouds), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

Fuuuuck Alex I am so sorry :-( :-( :-( come to Philly and we will dance our cares away

I have absolutely 0 hween plans and even if I did I am way too far in the red to justify spending money on anything right now. My faerie friend wants to buy me a ticket to see Justin Bond tonight though so that'll be fun

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 26 October 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

I have no costume plans yet. Tried to see if I could get a mohawk out of what little hair I allow on my head, ended up just shaving my whole scalp.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

not horror enough for you but Mr Clean wd work

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Wish I had thought to grow out some facial hair. I could be Walter White.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

so sorry, alex

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 26 October 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

don't think i have any halloween plans this year. i'm ok with this

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 26 October 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty fine everyone! Just bought new headphones and maybe I will be caught by surprise by feelings later but it's mostly a low level blah. Maybe I got all my crying out last week?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImbI5xFATa4

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

also yes, alex, my sympathies. sounds like the boy is still the center of his own world.

toto coolio (clouds), Friday, 26 October 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Nah. He's just. He's young. And has stuff to deal with. I've been there. It was my call at the end of the day. It's not like I was super happy either. I mean. Sigh. I am so defensive of him. Haha.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

I mean if you had asked me when we started going out "needs to figure himself out on his own" was a pretty big potential reason for eventually ending it. I just thought maybe we'd gotten past the window.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

But seriously can we all talk about other fun things? Sympathies are appreciated and I love you all bu I don't want this to be Alex's personal getting over a breakup thread

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Right! Let's discuss this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E6KYHxvEGg&feature=fvsr

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

well, okay, i won't give sympathies or whatever, but i'm just weighing in on some things that have been said here...

- re: the time thing with lex: i agree with dr3w, at least in terms of cohabitation and that sort of thing. it's not about "making time," it's about sharing time, and if it feels too much like you're "making time" for someone, then it can turn weird and full of resentment. my bf and i have been together for over a year and a half, we live together, but we definitely have different lives. we work on things at the same time— i write, he draw (he's a tattoo artist)— but a lot of the time, we see each other at the beginning of a day, then by noon we're off doing different things, then by 8 or 9 we're back at home getting ready to go out or just cooking and drinking beer and watching Dr. Who (which is what we did last night).

also, dr3w, for some reason i think it is telling that we have the same routine re: food and etc. i make the coffee in the morning, and when i come home, he's usually all ready with some food to cook and we either do it together or i DJ and he cooks. anyway...

- re: fights....we've had probably three major blowouts ever, one of them a few weeks ago. i cried all night and couldn't sleep. then we met up the next day and talked for a bit and everything was fine. i've had relationships where fighting was more of a feature, but even those turned into major life-long friendships, which brings me to...

- alex, my boy and i broke up for a while because he felt similarly to jf, but after about a month, we came together again and have been together ever since. sometimes absence and space gives a person the clarity they need to realize how much you mean to them. my bf has certainly told me as much. anyway, what i'm saying is don't stress about it, and don't let him preoccupy your thoughts, but it can 'come around' again, if both of you are willing to work on it and realize what made the problems exist in the first place. obviously, this is all conjecture, but it CAN happen, and i'm really glad it happened to me.

- also, love you all. wish i could spend more time on here, but with school, job stuff, and finishing up this goddamn book, i'm swamped.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Friday, 26 October 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

i'm just glad i finished that essay on Wojnarowicz....which i never emailed to you, jo3, sorry. will do today.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Friday, 26 October 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

it's not about cohabitation! that might make it easier! because we don't live together, and in fact live at opposite ends of london, i feel like when he comes over or when i go over, pretty much 100% of our attention is on each other. like it'd be stupid for me to do work while he's around if we only see each other a couple of times per week. and i enjoy that, except because my time management is an utter disaster it also stresses me out because it means the things i need to get done...don't get done even more.

or, it is that thing of being comfortable living separate lives, except by the time we should be getting together again, i haven't finished the things i need to have finished. this was a problem i had when i was single and adding one more time commitment to the mix is not helping matters.

lex pretend, Friday, 26 October 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

Ohmygodohmygodohmygod I just spent the last hour hanging out w Justin Vivian Bond, so so incredible, one of the best shows I've seen in God knows how long and also a super amazing person to boot. I think I'm starstruck.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 27 October 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)

If any of you ever get even the most remote of opportunities to see v, drop plans/reschedule parties/call in sick/etc. I mean my hopes were p high as it was but this completely exceeded all expectations.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 27 October 2012 03:33 (thirteen years ago)

I enjoyed the one solo show I've seen, but still nostalgic for K&H.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 October 2012 04:57 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, I had to look up who that was, but I saw Kiki & Herb in hs bc my girlfriend wanted to....

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

She's now married to a woman she met on her rugby team.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

Mx Bond did an amazing cover of "What a Bastard the World Is" when I saw her perform. Also one of B and I's first dates.

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Saturday, 27 October 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

so ph1l did a google search for the weird aspie-ish, possibly-gay baker at his place of employment and found out he's an artist who does stuff like this: nsfw

toto coolio (clouds), Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

ha and a blurb in the first page of google results compares him to a.a. bronson

toto coolio (clouds), Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

that's pretty rad!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

I went to a party chez Bond a couple years ago and I'd been in studio and was self-conscious about studio smell. I slipped in the bathroom and gave myself a spritz of a cologne that was there. Justin was standing outside the bathroom door when I emerged and sniffed and snapped "did you just spray yourself with my cologne?" and I blushed bright red and said "NO" and charged out of there.

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 28 October 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

so two nights have dancing have been an A+ success, although my stomach is not liking me/reacting poorly to most things i eat, which i'm just assuming is a physical manifestation of my moodiness rather than some kind of sickness.

last night a totally jaw-dropping boy talked to me for an hour or more about music which was a nice reminder that i am an interesting person who people like, although in the light of late-afternoon i still haven't folded the laundry i brought back from JF's place on wednesday and still need to get schoolwork done. but i can manage it in the next three hours if i put my mind to it.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

Alex: awesome!

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

yeah. i mean i don't think it will/don't want it to go anywhere. it's just nice to have no stakes crushes and remember that people find me interesting.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

Perhaps your stomach is still reeling from conversation with Jaw-Dropping Boy.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

nah. just feeling weird. not really focused on that. it was a pleasant afterthought, not the focus of the evening/today.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 28 October 2012 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

You are an innnnteresting person, Alex (and I don't mean that like Bugs Bunny the manicurist).

I had a bit of a stomach issue this morning, I shoulda been tipped off when my pancakes tasted a bit like soap. No idea what happened there.

I am in to stay for the night/day/night however long the NYC hurricane/flood lasts, although I am sposed to go to chemo at 2pm tomorrow.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

Have good chemo Morbs

There is 70-80% chance that I will be moving to Montreal before the year is out

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

Even bf is on board, holy crap, I've lived in the same city for 15 years

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

Awesome! Living my dream...

Morbs (and others affected), stay safe.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

hey! cool. there is a 70-80% chance that I will end up leaving Montreal within a year and a half. :(

But here's to some degree of overlap.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

Wait I just read the Frankenstorm thread-- I have been in an internet-free zone for three days-- stay safe, holy shits!

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

There's a 99% chance I'll be in Windsor for (probably) two more years. *sigh*

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit. that's hitting new york? a few days ago i was hearing virginia. be safe, ppl.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

As in you aren't supposed to have had the interment for the last three days (but have anyway, miraculously), or you were not supposed to have been using the internet for the last three days (but have anyway, defiantly)?

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

No internet with intermittent insomniac moments of iPhone surfing

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

I was in rural Quebec! No internet but there was a hot tub and a bottle of Orcadian whiskey. This past week has been catching up with QC freoinds and family

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

o - have plans been delayed, or should i still be ready to head out in the next 30 minutes?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

bf and i really want to visit montreal after winter's gloom passes. i've never been (to montreal, or even out of the country)

toto coolio (clouds), Monday, 29 October 2012 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

Would actually like to experience Montreal in winter some time, though maybe I'm crazy.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 29 October 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)

chicago is shitty enough in winter, though at least there are fewer people walking around

toto coolio (clouds), Monday, 29 October 2012 01:54 (thirteen years ago)

Montreal looks beautiful in winter and there are lots of things to do still as a tourist but I find myself having more inertia during the winter that prevents me from really going out to concerts and parties and whatnot to the same degree.

Summer is all festivals which are a lot of fun as long as you avoid the most intensely out-of-town touristy stuff.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)

Yesterday my roommate messaged me on Scruff from his bedroom upstairs asking me if I wanted to go downstairs and make breakfast w/ him.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 29 October 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Somehow that feels like the logical conclusion of Scruff usage, you won the game

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

It was really adorable and funny.

Also, people keep abbreviating Center City (a part if Philly) and putting it in their username to make things like "CCStudMuffin" which sounds like a character in some genderfuck cabaret

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 29 October 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/cc-club-lg.jpg

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 29 October 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

I went to the wedding at the weekend. Free bar, no food => so drunk I had to (ALLEGEDLY) be carried home. When I woke up I hadn't been dumped :D And then I strode across Hampstead Heath for three hours the next day. He's in Italy. I might think about making him a mixtape this week but I still don't know his email address

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh my god lex.

watching you do this brings me so much joy it's not even funny.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

like. this is totally adorable.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

i am attempting to shift my headspace from 'all too well' to 'holy ground' somewhat unsuccessfully, and i slept through my morning class, but i'm getting work done now, so i'll take victories where i can find them.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

I am FAR from the soppiness you imply there. FAR from it.

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

also lol @ people liking a picture of us on facebook like I was some sort of hopeless single case before kmt

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Weren't you?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

wait -- the wedding had free bar and no food? Or you chose not to eat?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

i may have not made it into the room with the food (it would only have been canapés anyway, not proper food)

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

i am attempting to shift my headspace from 'all too well' to 'holy ground' somewhat unsuccessfully

"all too well" actually does this itself though

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

i wasn't implying that you were a hopeless single case and are now soppy!

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

i have a low threshold for finding things cute.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

but also, mixtapes are pretty soppy.

and i say this as someone who used to make a lot of them

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

are we talking about a literal mix *tape*? cause that is pretty awesome.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

hahahaha no i mean "some mp3s dumped into a zip file"

i am not one for obsolete formats

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

I still burn mix CD's cuz I've lost a couple zips or had the data erased.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

there's a gay bar in Seattle called C.C. Attle's

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

and one in Portland apparently called. C.C. Slaughters!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

<3 getting a mix CD, makes me feel ~young again~

zwanz (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

there's one in edinburgh called CC Bloom's

jed_, Monday, 29 October 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

ugh something just reminded me that i was supposed to be meeting the family finally over christmas at this super in the woods cottage with showshoeing and midnight mass and stuff and now i am just embarrassing. which i was dreading b/c language gap and culture gap and so many people all at once but i'm really upset that i don't get to suffer through it.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

Felt like table last night when I stopped by a gay bar on my own and the three guys closest to me, who were also solo, were all on Grindr or Scruff. I mean, back in my day - well I have no idea how people met people at bars in my day, but they weren't all checking the singles pages of the alt-weekly while out drinking.

And then? After I left I checked both, and the bartender - a very warm and welcoming guy - was active on BOTH apps.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah, I've been to CC Slaughters once, didn't stay there long tho

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

reading shit like Je55e's post makes me happy I don't have a smartphone

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

what is scruff? like an alt version of grindr? so annoying that those apps aren't available for blackberrys.

alex remind yourself that most people would kill not to have to do xmas at the in-laws!

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

reading shit like Je55e's post makes me hope I will never be able to say/type the words "And then? After I left I checked both"

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

my dream xmas is with all my friends in london. it's all of our dream xmases. and it will never be allowed to happen ;_;

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

i am meeting B's parents at xmas and he's meeting mine when we go to the east coast in jan. i have a pretty good track record with moms so i'm not really sweating it

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

i've met M's sister but it doesn't really sound like either of them have a close relationship with their parents (and me neither). he habitually goes travelling over xmas anyway

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

dr what mom wdn't love you?

I am deadset on a London Christmas sometime.

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

d'aww ;) this'll be the first time i've ever met the parents of a guy i'm dating. his mom at least seems pre-disposed to like me if her FB comments on my photos are any indication...

never got to realize my dream of waking up in nyc on xmas morning - can't really justify not being home on xmas eve when it's an hour away

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

I was in a bar last night and my two friends were on their iphones...as were the majority of people sitting at the bar. I would rather read at a bar, but sometimes the light is so dim the only thing that works is the light of the phone. I still try to curtail phone use in public drinking holes though--it does not seem classy.

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

Was nervous as shit about my bf meeting my family way back when, and I put it off for a ridiculously and insultingly long time before a family wedding finally forced the situation. To my intense surprise/delight, it couldn't have gone better. He now has the majority of my family on Facebook now (I don't do FB) and all extended family updates reach me through him these days.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

i've met my bf's grandma, aunt, and two cousins. we went out to a bunch of restaurants and did "tastings," then ended up at the Lexington Bar, which is the only conveniently located dyke/trans bar in SF. his grandma drank neat scotch and got hit on by a bunch of ladies. (i will admit, when i found out she was 70, i was like, "holy shit she doesn't act or look a day over 55.")

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

in other news, i found out through a friend that a former lover (from long ago) tested pos last week. he lives in the bay and though we aren't that close any longer, we still see each other once a month or so and hang out. i just hope he's doing okay.

for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

sorry to hear that, t. if he's keeping up w/ his dr. and meds and otherwise living well, i'm sure he'll be okay.

that night out w/ you and the ladies fun.

lex, scruff is like grindr, but supposedly more bear-ish. i mostly use it and grindr to see if i recognize anyone. so far i've seen a couple neighbors, a guy who works at trader joe's (super cute & he contacted me, but it never went anywhere), and my doctor. best of all was when i was at a wedding hundreds of miles from home in the wilds of michigan, the husband of the officiator of the wedding was online. it was cool tho b/c they've got an open marriage. we had a laugh about running into each other that way.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 06:57 (thirteen years ago)

I need an intern. Not an intern, just somebody in the house who'll distract me every 45 minutes with a joke or a cookie or nipples or anything.

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder what the client's reaction will be when they get a "hilarious topless cookie chef" addendum to the budget

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

does it pay? if this law thing doesn't work out, i'll have student debt to pay off.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

Salary + generous benefits, send cookie samples

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

had to do it because it made me laugh.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

I have v good jokes and also make excellent cookies btw; do you reimburse transportation costs?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

bf and i made white chocolate/pink peppercorn/lemon frosted cookies the other day

happy little (clouds), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

not to be a jerk, but i don't understand this whole fancy cookie thing. it's like the fancy cupcake thing. just seems bizarre.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

I'd never do it myself but I'm a sucker for little trees and pumpkins

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

xp they taste really, really good

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

a friend told me a story about getting lacklustre service in a restaurant from a waiter. they couldn't even pay because the waiter was so distracted behind the bar looking at his phone. they eventually had to ask him via a grindr message to bring the bill.

jed_, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

o. m. g.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

that I think is the best grindr story.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

oh MAN that is awesome

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

that's amazing

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 04:20 (thirteen years ago)

OMG

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 07:43 (thirteen years ago)

cupcakes can GTFO though

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 07:44 (thirteen years ago)

word

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

Awesome story.

Cupcakes rule you guys are fronting. I eat one a year but it's a good day when I do.

I am such a sucker for muffins that I cannot leave the house without eating a big breakfast, otherwise muffins will be consumed

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

the thing with cupcakes is that there is no cupcake that would not be better as a proper full-sized cake

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

it's not the taste but the form that sucks, basically

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Also, impossible to eat the way its intended.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway thanks for your applications. I got it under control, I'm just gonna work all day like I did yesterday but this time "with breaks"

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

cupcakes can GTFO though

― lex pretend, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:44 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

all intern applications can be diverted to me then, i desperately need one

not for the distractions, i got those DOWN, but for organising my life

you'll be paid in retweets

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Basically ruined when ...

http://darrowart.com/blog/images/cuppycake.jpg

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

Cupcakes remind me of the things that make me impatient about women.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

an anti-cupcake manifesto one of my friends wrote a while back: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/sophie-heawood-poison-lurks-in-the-heart-of-a-cupcake-1905735.html

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

hahahah holy fuck at that headline!

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

it's true that cupcakes lend themselves to excessive frosting & decoration, often to the sacrifice of actually tasting good, but that doesn't change the fact that good cupcakes are amazing.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

p.s. mini cupcakes are also excellent vehicles for delivering psychoactive substances and can be frozen for extended periods without sacrificing taste or texture, sorry haters

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Would actually try a frozen mini cupcake.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

lex your friend is a genius

The only tiny dessert that I will never refuse is pasteis de nata

http://www.docesregionais.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/image14.png

Especially when the top is burned to a crisp, mmm

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

from lex's link:

It will start with cupcakes and it will end in vaginoplasty.

o really now

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

Custard mini tart? Yes, plz.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

there's an épicerie two minutes from my house that does those. also clafoutis and lamb pastillas and omg i might have to go there for lunch in a minute

xps

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

I don't eat dessert except for the occasional slice of key lime or pumpkin pie. And these:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3358/3227236879_85c00b8569.jpg

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

it's not even the frosting i object to about cupcakes, it's the SIZE and a certain twee/cutesy/mimsy mindset towards food that tends to go hand-in-hand with them. MAKE IT INTO A PROPER CAKE AND GIVE ME A HUGE SLICE OF IT

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

re: nata, the best is when you get them in Portugal and the pastry is lard and the muffin tins are cast-iron and they cook them so hot that the outside is burnt and the inside is gooey like a campfire marshmallow

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

although tbh my sweet tooth has pretty much died in adulthood, would actually opt for savoury pies over sweet most times now

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

Alfred I am transfixed by the blue hand wtf is going on

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

The weight of the pastel de guayaba cutting off circulation

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

My sweet tooth will never die, but yeah, savory and umami teeth have definitely come in hard.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

Why the fuck you did not point me in the direction of/gift me one of those while I was in town I will never know; resentin u forever tbh

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna say: it's a damn shame it didn't occur to me to point you to any number of cafes in Little Havana selling them for cents.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

oh god you guys i love dessert so crazy much. i even like the apparently much-derided cupcake (had half of a good red velvet one yesterday)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

and with thanksgiving around the corner i get to flex my baking muscle soon ahhhh what am i gonna bake this year

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

The thing abt cupcakes is they're a pain to eat when they're all big and frosting'd to the sky, and more often than not they're disgustingly sweet

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

I've never really liked cake at all tbh, I only eat it to be polite. I'm a pie person. But it's more the social connotations of cupcakes that skeeve me out more than anything, the whole adults making a bfd out of eating children's food thing.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

i really don't like cake. well, i don't like icing/frosting w/e. when i was working an office job earlier this year, every time someone would have a birthday and inevitably have cake i'd have to be like "nah i'm okay, i don't really like cake" and everyone in the conference would be all "WHAT, YOU DON'T LIKE CAKE? COME ON, JUST HAVE A PIECE. IT'S GREAT, I GOT IT FROM THIS PLACE. HAVE A PIECE OF CAKE!!!!!" and i'd be like "uh ok" and then i'd just go to my desk and dump it in the trash.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

that's how heterosexuality felt!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

I GOT IT FROM THIS PLACE

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

The thing now is to boast that you bought these delicious pumpkin-raspberry cupcakes from THIS PLACE and HOW CAN'T THESE CUPCAKES BE AWESOME I GOT THEM AT THIS PLACE.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

I used to share your attitudes, Rev and J0rdan, until I was made to acknowledge that if given the option I'd eat angel food cake until dead

And I must admit that any cake with an apple or a streusel on top, or soaked in brandy, I will eat all of it.

But other than that, chocolate cake, vanilla cake, fruit cake, any of their kith or kin, they can stay on the shelf forever

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

I can only eat dessert after dinner: no cookies or anything remotely sweet before 7 p.m.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

Actually, there are certain types of cake I fuck with, like coffee cake or pineapple upside-down, but all the types of cake people think of when you just say "cake", naaaaaaahhhh

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

How do we feel about pie?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

key lime and maaaaaaaybe apple.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

PIE TIL I DIE

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

cupcakes are not 'children's food' they are individual servings ffs

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

^^^

i have a PIE EATERS CLUB pin on my bag

i should make apple crisp

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

only as an adult have i come around to the pleasures of pie, i had serious trouble with the concept of HOT FRUIT for a long time

you can eat a cupcake with yr bare hards, try eating yr pie like that

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

was taking about hair pie tee hee

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

I eat pie barehanded all the time.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

cupcakes are not 'children's food' they are individual servings ffs

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:51 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

last time I ate a cupcake I was like 8, dawg, and I don't intend to change that

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

Even the worst forms of pie (mincemeat, banana cream) are 100% classic

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

Tarts, too. I don't care if they're cute or what, that hard French pastry shell rules

http://www.lemonmeringue.com/images/im_desserts/lemon_blueberry_tart.jpg

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

sorry that your adult tastes preclude the delights of cake, rev, yr loss iirc

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't like cake when I was a kid either.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

My parents very quickly learned to give me pies for my birthday cause I wouldn't eat my own cake.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

oh god you guys i love dessert so crazy much. i even like the apparently much-derided cupcake (had half of a good red velvet one yesterday)

― these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:08 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^the salient point here, the rest is just narcissism of small deserts imo

HOT FRUIT (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

I MEAN DESSERTS

HOT FRUIT (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

but come to think of it i've always hated the gobi, ever since i was a child

HOT FRUIT (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

it's a sandbox that just can't get over itself

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

endorheic more like endorkheic

HOT FRUIT (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

nice d/n matt :D

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

lol

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

lol thank you for coining it. i am but a pilferer.

HOT FRUIT (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

i'm glad that i have started this conversation re: desserts.

thing is, i actually LOVE cupcakes. and cake. and tarts. and pies. and cookies.

but i don't like the twee-ness of cupcakes, or the fact that there is a fancy cupcake shop every other damn corner in san francisco. in other words, cupcakes are delicious, but they have come to represent all that is awful and full of gentrification in my mind.

and cookies? i don't want no argentinean salted raspberry ginger thing. i want chocolate chip, or even a fucking snickerdoodle, the most loathed of all cookies.

anyway, cheers to all of you and your preferred desserts.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

i am going as a sailor tonight.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

who are these maniacs who loathe snickerdoodles?!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah wtf

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 November 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

I basically approve of anything that acts as a vessel for cinnamon.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 November 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

a lot of people hate them. i love them.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

i will say they are a bit of a pain to make but that is like 1/4 of a strike against such a buttery, cinnamon-y delicious treat

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

damn it now i want to bake, let's all live in a gingerbread house lewdly spattered with icing

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)

i think i still have leaf lard in the freezer that is super for crusts but WHAT DO I PUT INSIDE. there are so many options.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

Oof! Something about this time of year!

Visiting my parents to watch my niece trick or treat, Dad and I managed to get in a violent political argument. He's a small business owner intelligent enough to acknowledge (many times) how Reagan's deregulatory policies fucked the airline industry and have reduced his business, thirty years after those policies took affect, to ashes ("I've got five years left," this sixty-one-year old said). Yet Obama is Beelzebub and must be driven out of office. Every time I raised a point he cut me off and dismissed it as irrelevant. "If you think your employer is screwing you, find another job" distills his beliefs. Some people deserve to belong, some don't. It is, as I've said here and elsewhere, the ethos of the self-made man -- the person who has no sympathy for any mortal who didn't rise from rags as definitively as he.

When he said, in front of my bewildered and embarrassed brother in law, "So I take it you voted for Obama," I explained why I did now as opposed to 2008 when I left the prez field blank: the stimulus saved hundreds of university jobs, I've got friends with pre-existing conditions with access to private insurance now, and as a gay man he's encouraged my independence of movement. He turned purple. He said "fuck you" and it's my "choice" to want to live this way despite the president's "extra-constitutional" (his words) attempts to make things bearable for me. "So have the last four years changed nothing?" I asked (it's been four years since I came out). "No," he said firmly. Whereupon I shook my bro in law's hand, said "Have a nice life!" and walked out.

I'm not given to spiritual confessions of any sort, whether here or on my blog or on Twitter, but it was a relief to have things spelled out so monochromatically. I suspected this confrontation was coming; here it was. It was an exchange of such ugliness that it's made it easier to walk away without regret. No tears shed on my part -- it had to happen. Amazing, though, that exactly four years ago, on the eve of another election, we had a similar confrontation over sexuality and politics...and the results were the same. I'm thinking the only hope now is to wait for a phone call and a plenary session.

Meanwhile I'm blasting Kendrick Lamar and going to my lover's apartment in a bit.

I post this here only to know whether I did the right thing. I cringe too that I've been so confessional. Sorry, guys!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 November 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)

dangling modifier in first sentence!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 November 2012 02:14 (thirteen years ago)

god alfred, i'm sorry. you did the right thing.

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes i wonder if families are anything more than a crucible for perpetuating bigotry and distorted worldviews

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

Jesus Christ, Alfred, that is totally horrible and awful. I don't think situations like that present a binary of "right thing"/"wrong thing" but I definitely agree with others in that what you did was one of the better things you could have done. How is your mom going to react to all of this?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 November 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

shit, alfred

hey btw i'm in miami, let's try and grab a drink or two... saturday night (later) might be best for me but i'll get in touch

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

i don't wanna be all like "i check in on the gay thread" but i'm really sorry alfred, don't know what else you could have done. really feeling the post by clouds re: family, and my family is mostly harmless.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 November 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)

If I could meet some of you all halfway in the middle ... exchanging some of my parents' all-consuming tolerance for some of your libidos.

That sucks but also sounds oddly uplifting, Alfred. I hope you bit off the end of an onion at him on your way out.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 03:56 (thirteen years ago)

Alfred you are a man

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 November 2012 04:42 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm.

I think it's sad and telling that an argument over Obama and labour politics turns into this. I wonder what is at the root of what here.

You did the right thing, though (that said, I'm hoping yr niece wasn't witness to any of this). Just sucks that it had to happen. And as for being too confessional, I thought that's what we did here!

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 November 2012 04:56 (thirteen years ago)

sorry you had to go through that Alfred. Nobody like that in my family, at least that I ever see or know of.

Some of you will have to change your attitude about desserts when you pass 40. And the rest I curse.

Had 5 trick or treaters, I gave out all but one of my fun-size Twix bars. (3 each)

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 November 2012 05:42 (thirteen years ago)

You guys are sweet. No, niece had gone home with tired mom a while before: just Dad, bro in law, and I smoking and drinking wine.

My parents are actually delicious company! Avoid sex and politics though.

sarge, that'd be cool.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

alfred you definitely did the right thing, and it'll be beneficial in the long run, even if it feels like a shock now. a status quo of awkwardly not mentioning things is easy but not very satisfactory and more stressful than you think; sometimes you need a catalyst, a bombshell to lay your cards on the table and deliver a needed ultimatum. a bit of personal experience there: i had a similar status quo going on whereby my being gay was just Not Acknowledged; i always knew this would need to be shattered at some point, and i knew what my position would be, but it's hard to actually do that until forced into it. my parents now know that they either accept and acknowledge it or they will not see me again, and i am 100% prepared to cut them off for good. the ball is in their court.

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

sometimes i wonder if families are anything more than a crucible for perpetuating bigotry and distorted worldviews

― happy little (clouds), Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:24 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^i feel this

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

. a status quo of awkwardly not mentioning things is easy but not very satisfactory and more stressful than you think; sometimes you need a catalyst, a bombshell to lay your cards on the table and deliver a needed ultimatum.

That's why I was so relieved! No tears shed. A sort of clarity.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

xpost I disagree sharply with that post.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah. families are different. sometimes even the same ones at different times.

there also comes an age when you are responsible for your own worldview.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno. i am probably just projecting (even though my family is not an extreme example).

kind of agree w/ marx that at the least, our conception of the family unit would change drastically in an actually equal society.

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe Marx was just like his mother. She was never satisfied.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

why do we engage ourselves in a master/slave dialectic? / this is what is sounds like when doves cry

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

Karl?
Yes, Friedrich?
Is the water warm enough?
Yes, Friedrich.
Shall we begin?
Yes, Freidrich.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

oh fukkkk it's M's birthday next week, I need to think of a suitable present ://///////

also, he called me a "good eater" last week; I pointed out that, as someone who can't cook, whenever I have a decent meal in front of me I eat the fuck out of it because I generally have no idea when the next one will be

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

aw geez, alfred, that's rough. you handled it more coolly than i would've tho so kudos

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, it bears mentioning that although, or perhaps because, my family is nothing like this, I dunno how I would have handled such a thing.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

adding my sympathies to those already offered, alfred. those conversations are so stressful they literally make me sick to my stomach. (i don't deal well with familial confrontation.)

on a somewhat related note: i think we are on track for d. to FINALLY (finally) meet my mom after 5 years. and there is talk of possible inclusion in thanksgiving festivities. i can't help but be nervous about it but i know it's an important and necessary step for all of us to take together. i only regret it hadn't happened sooner.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

Oh man I loooove "Free"

why do we engage ourselves in a master/slave dialectic? / this is what is sounds like when doves cry

beep beep beep boop / boop beep beep boop

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

"Free"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgRBkjgXHro

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

eric otm

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Oh oops that was a Zing glitch

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

hey i saw 'what ever happened to baby jane?' last night and wow what an unpleasant movie

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

"He hates me."

http://sanchezdetoro.webcindario.com/JANE7.jpg

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

xp "How nice for you"

Really though that film's cred rests waaaay too much on the novelty of JOAN + BETTE 2GETHER @ LAST and isn't actually that great of a film. I mean it's pretty fun and campy but so are a lot of other things. Also it's too long.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

It is a totally great film and relatively sui generis at the time iirc. It is, admittedly, a tad too long tho, you're right about that.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

glad i saw it as some kind of gay rite of passage i guess but i don't think i'd ever want to see it again

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's junk and Victor Buono is awful

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Wd say I felt that was about Brokeback Mountain, but that's more of a stuff straight people like rite of passage.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

nothing more horrifying than a "restrained" Joan Crawford.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Thinking about Davis and Buono trading underthings, maybe.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder why it's always women who are basically train wrecks that become gay icons (dietrich, garland, et al)

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Because men who are train wrecks would cut too close to the bone.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

Not a huge fan of Baby Jane, but I've Written a Letter to Daddy always cracks me up just thinking abt it.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Have been wracking my brain trying to think of examples of gay cult movie classics that I don't like, but it turns out I at least like almost all of them. *shrugs*

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

. a status quo of awkwardly not mentioning things is easy but not very satisfactory and more stressful than you think; sometimes you need a catalyst, a bombshell to lay your cards on the table and deliver a needed ultimatum.

That's why I was so relieved! No tears shed. A sort of clarity.

― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, November 1, 2012 8:27 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ this is a generally true statement about relationships generally not just families (like - i read this while skimming backwards to the beginning of posts I hadn't read and before I saw what it was actually about I identified with it very strongly)

um. most of my family is totally wonderful and all know, but the three remaining 70+ year olds in my mom's family (the elderly egyptian matriarchs/patriarchs) don't know, though their more tolerant/less harsh spouses do. there's an uncomfortable detente where we just kind of dance around the issue when they're around but i don't know what I would do if it ever came to a head. if JF had ended up being around for the next big family event in march, it would have turned into a confrontation, but i've dodged a bullet there. so, yeah, i'm not sure what i would do if the unpleasantness was that close to home i.e. immediate family.

hugs alfred. I think you did what you needed to do, and hopefully he'll come around once reality sets in for him a bit. we care about you!

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

xp Oh, what's the one I like the best? Oh yeah, "Boom!" That movie is great.

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

The Apple is the only Al0nso Durald3 approved title that I can think of that I outright hate.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Five years ago I was staying at a gay friend's house while he was away, a cool Londoner, and looking through his DVDs, I said "oh they made a film version of Myra Breckenridge, I didn't know that". I watched it, loved it, thought, "huh! who would've thought that cool book would've made such a great film!" Then I googled it ("worst movie of all time!" etc.) and was confused

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

whaaAAAAT? xp

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

i watched part of myra breckenridge while recuperating from oral surgery and kept nodding off from the percocet, it was very confusing to me

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

i fell asleep watching it. it's a mess but mae west has some good lines

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

The Apple is anti-disco. Hence, I am anti-The Apple.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, the 'whaaaAAAAT?' was my liz taylor in 'boom' imitation

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

ha ha I love it so much

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

i couldn't get through that one. maybe i'll give it another try. i did enjoy john waters on Boom though.

as an aside i once saw rupert everett play the liz taylor part in a stage version of "the milk train..." and he totally played the whole thing to me in the second row of the audience. it was weird but i've seen actors do that before (and worked with them because i sometimes design for the theatre) - they single someone out of the audience and play it to them alone. this was about 15 years ago though.

jed_, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

"shit on your mother, JED_"

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

aw you guys are great. Radio silence so far, which is fine. I've decided to sever ties unless we move to the negotiating table.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

How's your relationship with your mom?

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

Warmer, although the intimacy b/w Dad and me is a recent phenomenon. The last time I confronted her about The Gay Thing prompted a fumbled boilerplate response ("As you know we don't support it"). But if anyone's going to call in the next 48 hours it's her, and she's gonna get it.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

that's charming, DONNA.

jed_, Friday, 2 November 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

I can't think of another gay cult movie that is actually a splendid second-tier film by the great Robert Aldrich. Also, it is not campy but FUNNY, in part. (As we know the two are generally exclusive.) And Victor Buono was a peach.

Also goonie don't feel like a pariah for your take on "Breckenridge," cuz you and John Waters are all wet on "Boom!" as well. It's amusing once but God what a turd.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

Here's hoping she calls.

You know, and I'm not specifically speaking abt Alfred and his family, whom I obvious don't know and thus do not know the specific dynamics of, but I just don't get parents who hate homosexuality (something that, as heteros, has nothing to do with them and thus need not concern them) more than they love and support their own children. Possibly I sound like some naive hippie here, and undoubtedly my viewpoint is coloured by my not having grown up in a religious family, or one with seemingly and position on homosexuality at all (my pointlessly delayed coming out process was met with an anticlimactic, and most welcome, shrug, at least as far as I can tell*), but I can't see putting anything above my kids when I have them. Believe me, were i a Hetero parent of a gay kid, I'd be the type who'd slug Rick Santorum right in the face and tell him exactly why (kinda disappointed in all the PFLAGers in the USA that this hasn't happened yet, come to think of it). So yeah, UGH at the world right now.

*the first family thing I brought my bf to was my sisters wedding, which thus became, in a sense, the big coming out to the extended family. Not knowing how some relatives would react, my mom expressed concern about me bringing him. My sister's response: she would personally tell to fuck off anyone who gave us shit at her own wedding. Luckily, his was never necessary.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

I can't think of another gay cult movie that is actually a splendid second-tier film by the great Robert Aldrich.

Yes!

Also, it is not campy but FUNNY, in part.

Yes!

(As we know the two are generally exclusive.)

You have a real knack.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:35 (thirteen years ago)

2 ouuta 3 aint bad, honeybunch

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

Every time you call me that, I picture myself dressed up as a box of Honey Bunches of Oats.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 2 November 2012 05:14 (thirteen years ago)

full disclosure, I stole it from Dana Andrews in Daisy Kenyon

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

Not every night you get free tickets to (and attend both) Joel Hodgson doing a one-man show and Madonna doing an approximately 200+ man/woman show. Nice night!

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 November 2012 08:19 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't Madonna fab?? I loooooved that show. I went to a rad fae pajama party last night that turned into Eyes Wide Shut at some point and then got home at 7am. It was intersting.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

and then you sobbingly said to nicole kidman "i'll tell you everything!"

doubting tuomas (clouds), Sunday, 4 November 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

drowning in AFI fest screenings, including the new xavier dolan (good not great)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

New? Oh. Isn't that like a year old by now or something? Do you mean Lawrence Anyways? It was ok. Too long and by the halfway point I felt like we no longer had the perspective of the title character. It often felt more like the protagonist was Lawrence's ex and not her. :/

It had its moments though.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

I'm off to the train station to go to Toronto for 24 hours for a job interview. After a somewhat productive Wednesday to Friday the weekend was a wash and I have SO MUCH STUFF DUE soon.

A day ago I thought I had had an epiphany and was more or less over the breakup and then last night went out gay dancing and remembered how anxiety inducing being in rooms full of cute boys is.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

I know few songs that depict this anxiety better than:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJs1VNxfq4c

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

I've done pretty well bottling that anxiety lately. Of course it helps that I'm always always there "with friends."

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

FWIW, here are the few thoughts I wrote down for my co-worker's blog on the Madonna concert:

What makes Madonna such a compelling artistic force? First and foremost, her blond ambition, which throughout her career has usually reared its perfectly-coiffed head most decisively during the moments everyone has been primed to finally write her off as passé.

So even as she releases new material that, for all its scattered merits, can't hope to stand up against her impressive back catalog ("I guess I'll just end up another 100-hit wonder," joked comedian-impersonator James Adomian, playing Madonna in a recent episode of Adult Swim's <i>Children's Hospital</i>), you could never accuse her of using her greatest hits as a creative crutch in concert. If anything, she sometimes comes off as though they're holding her back. I couldn't help but feel a little bit sorry for the hundreds and hundreds of soccer moms I saw roving in packs at the X, dressed up in their love of "Material Girl"-era Ciccone, clad in fishnets and denim. Just because Madonna hasn't been in the Twin Cities since before the Berlin Wall fell didn't mean she was going to play catch-up with Minnesotans clamoring for a fresh (but not too fresh) take on "Holiday."

Her setlist Saturday night featured nearly all of the dozen songs from her newest album <i>MDMA</i> (an OK-ish collection that, while certainly no <em>Like a Prayer</em>, is also pretty far from <i>Hard Candy</i>), and many of the hits that peppered the evening were flipped, remixed, inverted, or mashed up into … well, lets just say few in the room were singing along karaoke-style to her tour version of "Hung Up."

Most of her creative energy had clearly gone into envisioning gloriously dark scenarios for the likes of "Gang Bang," a visceral, gruesome depiction of perpetual violence that, to my twisted sensibilities, was the highlight of her new material. Though I also greatly appreciated the massive flying drumline that accompanied "Give Me All Your Luvin," in part because they drowned out the actual song. Also, though it was mainly used as an opportunity to give Madonna a breather and costume change, the montage-blitzkrieg video presentation accompanying "Nobody Knows Me" (from <i>American Life</i>) blows through practically every available provocation before concluding with a heart-stopping series of slides commemorating the too brief lives of gay teens who committed suicide (a declarative exclamation point coming just off the heels of her "Vote No" command).

To say it's a grueling program would be an understatement, both conceptually as well as physically. "I made it through the wilderness" might stand as the signpost refrain of the evening, as the newly twice-divorced 54-year-old, having invited the audience to take a look at the bruises on her backside, climbed atop a piano and slowly, deliberately savored the bitter ironies within the lyrics of "Like a Virgin." While she never completely lost her sense of humor (as when she motioned to her fans in the pit to toss her a few dollars), she also clearly utilized the tune -- among her most effervescent, adolescent songs -- to take a fearless plunge into the abyss of accrued time. If the payoff is wisdom and life experience, the price is self-awareness. Which, of course, is not something Madonna has ever lacked.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Oops, HTML.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Alex- yeah, Laurence Anyways. He's working on his next film already. Agree with your assessment but I did really love the ex.

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Sunday, 4 November 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

I just posted a whole ton of stuff in thread of ballroom chants, vogueing beats, and associated cuntiness (MikeQ, B. Ames, Vjuan Allure, Jay Karan, etc.) in case you want want to get your spin, dip, and duckwalk on.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Sunday, 4 November 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

i came out to my parents this week. went very well... no one was shocked.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 November 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

Hey congratulations that is awesome news!! Good on your parents!

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 5 November 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

yay!

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Monday, 5 November 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i'm def lucky

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 November 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

congrats, J!

doncha all just love the non-shocked response?

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 5 November 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)

Excellent! Congrats!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 November 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)

Neat! I wish I could do it again. I may still.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 02:51 (thirteen years ago)

i make a point of coming out every day by using some strategically-placed gender-specific pronouns.

doubting tuomas (clouds), Monday, 5 November 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

congrats jordan, well done

it does feel better, doesn't it?

I just recall that, as awkward as it is leading up to it, that it takes a certain crouched / cramped psychic dynamic and unfolds it and lets you breathe a little easier (says the person whose parents were-- mostly-- cool about it). There will be awkward follow up conversations galore, but still, way to go

the tune was space, Monday, 5 November 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)

yay j0rdan!

so many hugs and smiles for you.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 5 November 2012 04:15 (thirteen years ago)

There will be awkward follow up conversations galore, but still, way to go

― the tune was space, Sunday, November 4, 2012 11:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yeah... sorta not anticipating this, but oh well. i guess they'll mostly happen on the phone tho.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 November 2012 04:18 (thirteen years ago)

thanks y'all

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 November 2012 04:18 (thirteen years ago)

awesome j0rdan

lex pretend, Monday, 5 November 2012 07:38 (thirteen years ago)

hooray! congrats!

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 5 November 2012 07:53 (thirteen years ago)

way to go, j0rdan!

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, 5 November 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

good for you. never saying anything worked out fine for me.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 November 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

Jordan, that is so rad!! I am way happy to hear it worked out so well.

Right now I'm in the process of learning that breakups are bad and then get better but then sometimes get worse again!! Who knew?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like I'm in a tremendously fucked-up and weird and not-very-healing situation right now (ex and I are both dating faeries and I have to see him at events making out w/ his guy) and I don't really know what to do.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

And I tried to tell him like "hey, we are still close and care about each other and are working on a friendship but the way we are doing it is not working out v well for me w/r/t like watching each other make out with other ppl and stuff, it stirs up weird feelings" and he basically told me that he was fine with seeing me see other people, I was being territorial and that it was my problem, he didn't know what I wanted him to say, and that he wishes I would've just dealt with this on my own instead of having to tell him. So then I spent half a day at work like hiding in the bathroom trying not to cry and then the other half so fucking pissed I could barely think straight.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

You can make out with his guy.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

His guy and I have a sort of rocky history; he is maybe not my favorite person. He's pretty territorial himself and will a) assert himself and, like, make sure to be noticeably touchy-feely with my ex when I try to talk to him b) be a dick to other people that try to have conversations with my ex

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Also he wouldn't give a shit

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

ex and I are both dating faeries

I have a possible solution.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

*evil laugh*

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

eric's solution is correct

lex pretend, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

thx guys

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie, what would be the ideal solution?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

stevie all my sympathy and stuff, your ex and his man are being dicks but tbh

he wishes I would've just dealt with this on my own instead of having to tell him

this is right. he's not going out with you any more. you have to deal with them being dicks because they're not obliged...not to be. and from the sounds of it, they're not gonna stop it. you don't need to put effort into maintaining a friendship with your ex, it's nice when it pans out that way but it sounds like you're putting in more work than he is when, again, you're not dating any more and it shouldn't be occupying more of your time or emotions than is absolutely necessary and you have a new man anyway, work on him! if they're gonna be dicks, cut em off and don't feel guilt. emotions might happen but emotions schmemotions, fuck those too

lex pretend, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

Ideal solution: we both roll in totally separate circles, limit interaction to one-on-one time or less sexually-charged spaces. Obv that's not really the situation here.
More realistic solution: he at least gives one fucking shit abt trying to build this friendship/exhibits an ounce of sensitivity

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, the problem is that you're both way into what I have to assume is a very insular community.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

My advice is to date a very successful businessman in order to put your ex in his place.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

xps that is actually p otm. I mean the friendship thing was a mutual agreement we had and something he really wanted to do too, but I feel like it's falling more on me at this point since I'm the one w/ the problem? I mean in our convo I told him that there is no easy solution, I'm not telling him to stop coming around to stuff or something, that really I don't know *what* to do but that I also felt like it was something we ought at least discuss and I guess I was a little caught off guard when he just didn't care at all.

eric also otm

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_683/133509604888H1t2.jpg

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Am I fucking insane though? Is it wrong to feel weird about watching your ex + his new guy rolling around on a bed making out?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think that's unreasonable

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

I thought that's all faeries did. Sit in circles and watch each other join genitals.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

Is it the bed that makes it weird?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

xp not quite

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think anyone would want to witness that but at the same time if you're going to go to parties - any parties - with them you kind of have to expect it?

you've done all you can do, which is tell him how you feel - imo going above and beyond the call of duty there, and if he's not interested in hearing you then your options are pretty much a) deal b) not be in that scene.

lex pretend, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

I have been leaning v heavily toward b) recently

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

(i don't mean to sound harsh but as detailed elsewhere on ilx my advice tends to be very #realtalk #fuckyofeelings and it's even more so irl, i wag my finger at people and everything and i'm ALWAYS RIGHT)

lex pretend, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

All joking aside, though, I agree with lex. Given (and this might not actually be given) the atmosphere of free sexuality in the scene ... I'm not sure I see that many other viable options except to truly embrace the freedom or gtfo.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

The insularity of the social group is the problem. Eric otm. But I don't know how to fix it.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)

i think the best solution given the obstacles is to DEAL!

it sucks seeing your ex make out with someone else etc and it's totally understandable that it hurts but y'know what just force yourself to put up with it, focus on YOUR man, REFUSE to be upset - perhaps an easier way is to refuse to let him see that you're upset because that means he's "won" - and in time you'll wake up one day and you won't actually be upset

lex pretend, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

exactly. it's so fucked up, like, okay, we break up, and we take a month off, and then SURPRISE we both wind up in this same fucking thing where everything gets stirred back up

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

An ex-lover and close friend of mine, "A", he started dating an attention-starved young guy who'd clear his throat and place himself between anybody talking to A, he'd call A away from conversations, interrupt people talking to A, and so forth. It was especially directed toward me, as A and I still have a strong relationship that sometimes includes arms around each other in a brotherly way.

Anyway at first I was like "wow this guy sucks" but there was a strange pleasure I took in ignoring his pleas for attention, being unruffled when he'd split up any conversation. Stevie I think there's an immense amount of pleasure to be had in stoicism in the face of asshole exes (or their asshole new bfs). I hope you find that feeling soon.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 5 November 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

i agree with lex for the most part here but otoh man the whole "i have to WIN this failed relationship" thing just...idk, sits uneasy with me. like i once dated this guy, i liked him i guess more than he liked me, things obv didn't work out but there was also this social situation where i ended up seeing him out every week for months after it ended, and i went ahead with the "ok, stiff upper lip, don't let him see you're upset, WIN this thing" etc, and it honestly just made me feel fucking miserable. i guess what i'm saying is if you think it'll aid in yr self-preservation, dropping out of the "scene", even if just for a time, is absolutely an option and one worth considering. (i think i am increasingly on whatever the opponent of team #fuckyofeelings is)

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah taking time away can be important. like sometimes forcing yourself to deal with something is just not good for you. learned that one the hard way!

jordan that is so cool :-) :D :P <3

surm, Monday, 5 November 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

:-) :D :P <3

Reading all of those in a row makes it appear that the final one is mooning.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

i was at a wedding recently and accidentally walked off with someone else's photobooth pictures. 2 guys mooning.

i have formed a relationship with my bed lately that is very important to me. not in a lifetime original movie way as much as like, i just need to recharge so step the fuck off

i'm into it, love winter

surm, Monday, 5 November 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, ain't no man getting between me and my bed. Ever.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/imgs/artists/emin-tracey/tracey-emin-my-bed.jpg

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

could live there

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1071/iwurua.jpg

these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.thisisthedream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Dru_Hill_feat_Big_Dex-In_My_Bed_3.jpg

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51B24XRHBVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

surm, Monday, 5 November 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

i do all my best work in bed.

not a double-entendre.

doubting tuomas (clouds), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:02 (thirteen years ago)

I thought Courtney Love throwing her compact at Madonna ousting Madonna from her own interview was the shot heard 'round the female music world that was the equivalent to Kurt Cobain appearing in a ball gown on Headbanger's Ball, signalling the end of a terrible era. But you lousy kids are keeping her alive and Courtney tried become something like Madonna and I just weep.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 05:19 (thirteen years ago)

If one must cry, it's best to cry alone.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 05:48 (thirteen years ago)

stevie, after m4tt broke up with me a while back, there was no way for us to avoid each other. we had all the same friends. i had to go through a lot of painful times because of it, but in the end, i learned that i was a) being kind of a crybaby, no matter how genuine my feelings were, and b) that it is totally possible to remain friends with exes, but that you must simply place yourself outside of situations that you know trigger painful memories/etc.

in other words, it isn't your ex's responsibility to tiptoe around his feelings for the new guy.

like lex, i empathize totally, and know it really sucks, but you should probably either remove yourself from situations like this or just say "fuck it, we're not friends."

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 November 2012 01:18 (thirteen years ago)

hi guys there are cookies in the house and i need not to eat them

surm, Thursday, 8 November 2012 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

but they are my favorite, chipless chocolate chip

surm, Thursday, 8 November 2012 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

how does that work?

frojo (clouds), Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:14 (thirteen years ago)

Ryan made a batch of chocolate chip cookies and i asked him to leave the chips out of some

they are so happy

surm, Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:50 (thirteen years ago)

i've managed to only have 1 tonight

surm, Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:50 (thirteen years ago)

Oh I used to loooove those.

Yeah tabes I've kind of decided to do the avoiding-situations thing I think

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 November 2012 08:12 (thirteen years ago)

gotta love a good void

surm, Thursday, 8 November 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

or something

surm, Thursday, 8 November 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

I prefer the term evacuate.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

We talked today and cleared a LOT of stuff up; he apologized for being kind of a dick abt the whole thing and we agreed to try to avoid being at the same events, or maybe even going to events together as friends instead of going with our respective date-guys

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

this got no traction on the poli thread (lol), so.... Doug Ireland (longtime gay muckraker) suggests queer progressives hold Obama accountable, toss their HRC black tie:

http://gaycitynews.com/back-from-the-abyss/

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 03:25 (thirteen years ago)

It’s time for the access-oriented politics of the Human Rights Campaign’s gaycrats and their ilk to stop sucking up to corporate America and devote their money and resources to organize, organize, organize.

Well, yeah, ideally, but apparently this is all less compelling than deciding which artery-clogging fast food chains should be supported and which should be boycotted.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 03:43 (thirteen years ago)

MN marriage-amendment lobby was a model of organization.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 03:48 (thirteen years ago)

WHAT THE FUCK, WHY HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF THIS MOVIE UNTIL 5 MINUTES AGO??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upb-Cc49HRQ

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

ah, Germany in the '80s

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

On my phone; Taxi Zum Klo?

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Yes. It looks amaaazing from the trailer.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

most arty gloryhole movie, funny too.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

btw, noted elsewhere, but hardly any of you in NYC anyway -- the gay experimental film fest has moved to Gowanus this week:

http://mixnyc.org/mix/schedule

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

whelp, i'm back. what's shakin?

Spectrum, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

my mom and my boyfriend are going to meet tonight

after 5 years

wow i'm nervous

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

understandable but it'll be fine.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

i mean i don't think anything bad is going to happen but there's just a lot of time elapsed and now it's finally going to culminate, first with dinner tonight and then with us attending family thanksgiving together next week. it's a big milestone.

d. is kinda being weird with all the anxiety over this. can't say i blame him, tho.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

i think i've tried watching taxi zum klo like 5 times over the past decade and always end up turning it off

perfidia (perfidy) is on netflix instant and rules. no-dialogue-for-the-first-forever-minutes-kinda-arty

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

dinner went very well. relieved.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

yay!

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)

Awesome!

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 15 November 2012 03:45 (thirteen years ago)

:D

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Thursday, 15 November 2012 06:17 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4JkJb4svZ4&t=7m13s

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 15 November 2012 07:09 (thirteen years ago)

wait i meant this

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 15 November 2012 07:09 (thirteen years ago)

continuing benefits of seeing M:

- homemade lasagne (pasta from scratch again! who knew this was a possible thing) and apple & rhubarb cobbler last night OMG BOTH SO NICE
- homemade cinnamon bagels in bed this morning

plus it transpired at the weekend that his favourite way of dealing with a hangover is to make a huge roast dinner with all the trimmings

he has called me a "good eater" :)

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

we need a dinner party to which elmo's parents can come and lex's boy can cook a huge roast breakfast with all the trimmings for our hangovers.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

well, my dad and his not-wife know and like dustin. the introduction to other side of the family has been harder to negotiate, due to some devout catholic nonsense and my own unresolved anxieties.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

which anxieties, i hasten to add, are presently being resolved.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

we had a pleasant dinner and talked. my mom had a martini, and i found myself trying to remember the last time i saw her have a drink. i couldn't remember. she's an ACOA so that was a little surprising, but i guess she was a little anxious too.

and i'm really glad that d. got to meet her, and got to see a few of her quirks. she's a little bit of a conspiracy theorist, but only about certain things. so when the JFK assassination came up in conversation (i can't recall how) d. got to see a little bit of that.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

"So was Oswald the gunman?" I asked her.
"Oswald was NOT the shooter. Oswald was in a cafe eating lunch and waiting for a phone call," she scoffed, like I should already KNOW this stuff.

Then she mentioned something about Dorothy Kilgallen? I don't know.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

CONSPIRACY MOM

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

PRESENTLY RESOLVED ANXIETIES

all that aside, (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://im.rediff.com/movies/2008/feb/14oslide2.jpg

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:11 (thirteen years ago)

Glad to hear it went well, elmo

Glad to her lex got a chef as well as a squeeze. I keep a continuous stream of roasts and tarts and fancy salads coming from the kitchen when bf is around. When he's not around I eat Vietnamese.

It is official, I am moving to Montreal at the end of the month. The main reasons are work and rent. The distant third reason is I am ready to give up my nights of drag shows and DJ nights for yoga and gluten-free dinner parties

all that aside, (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

stevie d <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

plax (ico), Friday, 16 November 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

:D

C:\GAMES\KEEN\KEEN4E.EXE (clouds), Friday, 16 November 2012 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

last thing i cooked for my bf was bacon/eggs/toast (his fridge is better-stocked than mine)

glad things went well elmo!

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Friday, 16 November 2012 02:15 (thirteen years ago)

last night, i made steak, turmeric rice, and steamed kale that came with a delightfully zippy dressing. my boyfriend was very pleased.

this morning, he cut up the remaining steak and made a marinade so as to assemble Banh Mi tonight.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Friday, 16 November 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)

oh also, guys, I GOT A FUCKING JOB. i've been "unemployed" since July of 2010, which means i've been working a lot at doing gigs and....uh....whatnot, but jesus. a fucking JOB. and it pays so well.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Friday, 16 November 2012 03:29 (thirteen years ago)

i need a fucking job

C:\GAMES\KEEN\KEEN4E.EXE (clouds), Friday, 16 November 2012 04:57 (thirteen years ago)

tabes, faculty or secret assassin?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2012 05:24 (thirteen years ago)

i get to work retail at a boutique for rich ladies! it sells beauty products. handmade organic natural shit.

one bottle of shampoo? $50. uh-huh.

when they interviewed me, one of the questions was, "do you feel comfortable touching strangers' faces and hands?"

also, they quote Baudrillard on the website.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Friday, 16 November 2012 07:01 (thirteen years ago)

o. - we have plenty of drag shows and dj nights here.

not just yoga and a lack of gluten!

but also yay! if you need any help with moving things, lemme know.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 16 November 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks Alex
I think my temp sublet is in your neighbourhood? I'm at Bagel Central

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 16 November 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

is that an actual neighborhood name in MTL? brb looking up rental listings

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

I def remember walking through what looked like Bagel Central.

tabes' first customer:

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/Images/katherine-helmond-in-brazil.jpg

I finally saw Robert Frank's infamous Rolling Stones' shame-doc Cocksucker Blues last night and have to say young Jagger really doesn't do much for me on a dick level.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

i think he just means mile end.

there are two 24 hour bagel bakeries within a block of each other.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 16 November 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

Well I meant a specific intersection without being too specific. The place has a piano, yay. I'm gonna eat bagels, play piano all day and get a fat ass

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 16 November 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Sooooo, my friend Kevin has made a documentary about the Toronto punk band Fifth Column. It is closing the MIX NYC Queer Experimental film festival. It's as much about that awesome band as it is about J.D.'s homocore zine, Toronto in the 80s, watching G.B. Jones smoke, Bruce LaBruce being a hilarious jerk, etc. You should go! I'm going.

http://mixnyc.org/mix/programs/boom

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 17 November 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

oh that looks fun

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Saturday, 17 November 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

that looks awesome, i love Fifth Column!

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Saturday, 17 November 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

fgti, I have a dinner date at an ilxor's house tomw night; I'm going to the Pasolini doc at MIX tnite. Are u in town?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 November 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

I feel well enough to drink tonight so I am heading out later to the Wburg gay bar's anniv for as long as I can take (it will be too crowded).

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 November 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

I am not in town! I am upstate. Sad to miss that Pasolini doc, my plan was tomorrow to get back into the city, see Kevin's doc and then go to karaoke in Astoria

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 17 November 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah Fifth Column rule! Morbs come to karaoke!

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 17 November 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

Astoria! I gotta work Monday, and am not feeling that good...

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 November 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

I was watching Taxi Zum Klo today and I was so into it that I stopped half an hour early so that I could go get a razor & shave cream & haircut before work and now I have Hitler Youth cut w/ a short horseshoe stache. I feel like an early 80's German leather daddy.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)

rainier werner SASSbinder

resplendent quetzal spokil (clouds), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:53 (thirteen years ago)

I feel a theme party comin' on

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad184/sdolnack/F4EF2A0B-F97E-4BCA-AC0C-133B1B99483D-7878-000007AEE1F9CFFD.jpg

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:12 (thirteen years ago)

oops lolhueg, here

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad184/sdolnack/F4EF2A0B-F97E-4BCA-AC0C-133B1B99483D-7878-000007AEE1F9CFFD-2.jpg

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:17 (thirteen years ago)

I tried to delete the first one but it's not going anywhere so I guess you can just pick your preferred size.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)

yowza

resplendent quetzal spokil (clouds), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:23 (thirteen years ago)

Soooo Mix NYC was basically the cutest crowd of homos ever assembled, highly recommended

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:30 (thirteen years ago)

My faerie friend went up from Philly for it on Sat night! Also my friend Dusty was prob at the night you were at (6'4" and enormous and flamboyantly dressed)

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:53 (thirteen years ago)

woooow stevie

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 07:34 (thirteen years ago)

i honed my archivist chops on MIX so i am always fondly thinking of them

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 07:36 (thirteen years ago)

my boyfriend is gone for the week & i've forgotten where to watch porn, plz advise

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

i've kind of fallen down the tumblr pr0n wormhole. it's completely fascinating to me because i've never otherwise seen porn displayed in a way that's so personal and honest, like you're looking at what gets one particular person off instead of what some website thinks will get you off.

but, you know, tubes.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

I only like videos :-/

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

i think i mainly like pictures.

jed_, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:28 (thirteen years ago)

but i like videos if they're like spy things or people caught doing things (!) probably tmi but whatever.

jed_, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:29 (thirteen years ago)

you rascal.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

"you dirty bird"

jed_, Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.gay-torrents.net/

um, I've heard.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:51 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah that was my jam all through college

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:53 (thirteen years ago)

are there any other good sites akin to xtube? xtube is kinda lame, but everything else i've seen along the same lines is terrible/overrun by website promos where every video is like 1:30 long

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

gayforit.eu isn't bad imo

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:16 (thirteen years ago)

ty

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:16 (thirteen years ago)

tumblr porn gets boring to me bcuz i prefer videos

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

twinks: gayboystube.com

all kinds: xvideos.com

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

also, i found out today that i will be in new york for almost two weeks. which is AN UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF TIME FOR JOB-TRAINING FOR A JOB THAT'S ONLY PART-TIME.

i mean, shit, i get free flights, free food, and a free hotel, so i can't complain that much, but i can't afford to fly my sweetie out, and TWO WEEKS IS FUCKING FOREVER WHAT THE FUCK.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)

i knew i could count on you guys

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:44 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks is really fucking long. when i was home for two weeks earlier this month my boyfriend & i were kind of losing our minds towards the end.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:44 (thirteen years ago)

pic-wise, flickr has like, tons of porn on it, if yr ever so inclined

i only like videos on mute

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:47 (thirteen years ago)

b and i were apart for a month this summer, on different continents. that was pretty rough.

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:50 (thirteen years ago)

Brent Corrigan videos help too

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:04 (thirteen years ago)

porn is SO fucking boring.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:39 (thirteen years ago)

Brent Corrigan is too busy making shitty indie comedies under his real name to bore Morbs these days.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:47 (thirteen years ago)

tabes, come see me sometime then when you're not being trained.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:48 (thirteen years ago)

i was def intrigued by corrigan when i was in high school but i never got off on his porn, way too overproduced for me

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:05 (thirteen years ago)

lol, I need J0rd to explicate what constitutes porn overproduction.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:14 (thirteen years ago)

i mean, i don't like studio porn and all the things that entails (from the type of men that usually star in that stuff to the way they are shot to the things that happen [i.e. i rarely if ever watch porn that depicts anal]) -- which isn't to say that i don't watch professional porn i.e. porn that you have to pay for or is done by a company or w/e but it's much smaller-scale/independent things. corrigan-level porn doesn't do much for me.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:17 (thirteen years ago)

Do the Corbin Fisher/Randy Blue single-scene types count as "studio porn" along with the Falcons and Bel Ami's? They have no pretence of a storyline or anything like that, but they're pretty slick and clean looking, employ multiple cameras and whatnot. Plus, the guys are usually very jock-y. I've heard other people decry studio porn, but I've never been able to get a straight answer on whether the issue is with the type of models employed (twinks, jocks) or the slickness; like, is there something about the grungy, shot-from-a-MacBook-cam amateur aesthetic that feels more intimate and thus, for lack of a better word, real?

And yeah, i get that of all the things that I overanalyze, this is probably the thing that least demands it.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:05 (thirteen years ago)

I've never really been interested in jock types at all.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:09 (thirteen years ago)

Watching braindead jocks fuck is sorta my equivalent to hetero guys who like watching bubbleheaded teenage girls get hacked up in slasher flicks, I figure. I'm not proud of it, i cant defend it, but there it is.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:15 (thirteen years ago)

I only like them when they're hairy (lol pvmic)

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:15 (thirteen years ago)

i think corbin fisher/randy blue etc is a level below the true studio stuff imo. i don't really care that much for that stuff but i've dabbled.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:34 (thirteen years ago)

anyway yea, it is a LONG time. i'm pissed, but yknow, i'll get over it.

J0rd, as someone who knows the porn industry, let me tell you: CF/RB are not below the true studio stuff. in fact, CF is possibly the most profitable gay porn company in the world, in the running with Falcon.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

i like one brent corrigan video, otherwise, hate his stupid face despite his lovely dick.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

xtube was great 4, 5 years ago

ゑ (clouds), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that shit went down hill

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

yup.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

there used to be another site, the name of which escapes me atm, which was TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME because they had tons of Cadinot films and Golden Boys films and stuff from the early 70s. anyway.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

CF/RB are not below the true studio stuff. in fact, CF is possibly the most profitable gay porn company in the world, in the running with Falcon.

― hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Thursday, November 22, 2012 3:24 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh i totally believe that. i didn't mean in terms of profitability or size, i was talking in terms of aesthetics and things like that

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

porn? aesthethics?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

I think I'm talking to my dad's next-door neighbor/friend on scruff

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li4zun6VWr1qhnh85o1_500.gif

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

haaaaaa

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

LOL

qiqing, Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

grungy shot-on-location '70s porn is interesting sometimes, that's true

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 November 2012 02:47 (thirteen years ago)

It seems that some point (post-1996) all porn became bareback/breeding.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

I won't watch bareback porn.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 24 November 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

I wasn't exaggerating. Any Brent Corrigan and Corbin Fisher I've seen has been BB. I'm pretty sure Randy Blue I've caught has been, too. In my porn-browsing experience (XT, Tumblrs, blogs), I have had to specifically use "condom" as a search term in order to see one in use.

i've kind of fallen down the tumblr pr0n wormhole. it's completely fascinating to me because i've never otherwise seen porn displayed in a way that's so personal and honest, like you're looking at what gets one particular person off instead of what some website thinks will get you off.

Rev OTM, though sometimes I feel weird about such granularity. If I want to find tall, bearded, uncut redhead twinks topping bears in business suits smoking cigars, I'm sure I can find it. It's a little too much like shopping sometimes.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 24 November 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

tall, bearded, uncut redhead twinks topping bears in business suits smoking cigars

lol at this image

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 November 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

i can never find my ideal video porn

ゑ (clouds), Sunday, 25 November 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

My ideal video porn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKwx3JwR6q4

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Sunday, 25 November 2012 05:01 (thirteen years ago)

<3

ゑ (clouds), Sunday, 25 November 2012 06:22 (thirteen years ago)

Or, at least, it was last night.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Sunday, 25 November 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Touche, straight guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSX0vGnjkws

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Argh! I hate that shit and that video is one of the fucking lamest examples of it. Your girlfriends are harpies who just want to PIN YOU DOWN and suck all the FUN out of the rest of your sexless lives while they drain your checking account and make you TAKE OUT THE TRASH and go SHOPPING and watch TWILIGHT and SEX AND THE CITY. Dragging around beat down stereotypes that are as worn out as old Bob Hope = edgy LOLs?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

(It was a response to a really lame viral vid attempt, FTR.)

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

The original vid made my "disappointing gay best friend" skin crawl.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sorry. I wasn't griping at you. I love you and I wouldn't do that.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

No worries. I saw this vid as "we counter your lame stereotypes with our own lame stereotypes," but, yeah, outside of that context, it's totally toxic.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, gotcha! Yikes. Hey, you wanna cuddle later?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Not until I see a ring.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

i really hate those videos

'disappointing gay best friend' is good tho

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

Oh I'll show you a ring all right.

I have an unscratched itch re assholes lol-complaining about/bonding over their insufferable girlfriends. Marriage is not a fucking requirement, family and society's pressure aside, and you should dump her if she's actually the soul-killing bitch you paint her as.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

I guess I should post an update on the situation I described last month.

A week after that ugly argument b/w Dad and me, he asked me to return. He apologized, sincerely and abjectly, for his behavior. Generally, he was as kind and genial and thoughtful as he was repulsive and violent the week before. But he said, quietly but with force, that he could not accept his son as a homosexual; that's just the way it is. He followed me outside. I said, "You know what this means" – that he wouldn't see me for a long, long time. "I know. I accept," he said. "You do what you must. You're always welcome here, this is your home, and I'll always love you." We hugged and parted.

A couple days later while he was out of town, I picked up Mom and took her to my sis and bro-in-law's. The only reason I was talking to her, I explained, was because she had said she would "try" to accept me – all I wanted. A two-hour chat after dinner confirmed the essential loneliness of her position: she was now in the middle, caught between two immovable objects.

Well, last Saturday, Dad left a voice message I missed wishing me a happy birthday. He hoped to see me tomorrow at the house, he said. Without returning the call, I drove over the next afternoon. Without wasting any time he said he couldn't accept placing Mom in the middle, he loved me, and therefore would have to accept me. My dad is Yoda-esque: he would do it; there was no try. If he had a condition, it was to give he and Mom freedom of movement: should a relative or friend choose not to accept a boyfriend and me, I shouldn't expect he and Mom to rally to my defense. Running through the Roldex of relatives and friends, I couldn't think of a single person who'd behave so abominably, let alone to my face, so I just said, "Sure. My worry is about you two, not anybody else." I said that this is now uncharted territory for all of us.

"Not really," he said. "We know what it looks like. You're going to introduce us to a guy and we'll have to accept it."

So I'm still dazed. The timing worked beautifully: the combination of birthday + holidays proved too inexorable. We hung out on Thanksgiving and the next day (his birthday) without strain or affect.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

awesome! that's wild

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

the delicious part is that I'm single again!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

well that i'm not surprised to hear considering how it was going w/ that guy

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

a week after I called it off he had a new boyfriend, according to Facebook.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

way to go, alfred!!

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

I like every piece of that story, including the part about you being single again.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

my own family-acceptance narrative was advanced this week as well, when dustin came to my mom's house for thanksgiving and met everybody - step-dad, younger bros, grandmother, great aunt, etc... even my step-dad, who has been the single opposing force for quite some time, was friendly and civil (if a bit quiet, but that's fine). it was pretty great! dustin felt comfortable enough to take a nap for an hour and a half after dinner. it's all good. all all so very very good.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

aw, yall <3

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

Great story Alfred, everything sounds like it's as good as it can be.

Elmo, congrats.

My bf has been making holiday plans with my relatives via Facebook and whatnot without finding any reason at all to include or bother me with any of it. Yes, this is a good thing.

And yeah, fuck those stupid videos. Everyone--gay, straight, male, female, human--should feel insulted by that shit.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

Totally happy for you Alfred but you just reminded me I forgot to say happy birthday to my dad. :(

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

Glad for Alfred and elmo!

I chatted up 'disappointing gay best friend' at a party once. Pretty hot for a redhead.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

thanks, guys!

I haven't even kissed a redhead.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

well, it's a good thing I hate accomplished karaoke then?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

^ oh is THAT why you wouldn't come hang out in Astoria? There was nothing accomplished about it but also it was a mess of margaritas and grossitude-- not an A+ night. An ambulance for one poor girl, too.

Yay Alfred that's a good story. I think you'll be pleasantly happy to discover that your dad is way cooler with this a year from now than you'd anticipate? I hope so

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

I am such a fool for redheads and with an Irish accent and disposition it's basically the end

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

what's an Irish disposition?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

and yeah, gingers = A++ wonderful.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

great news alfred. pivotal emotional scenes in the future movie of your life~~

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

(i spent the weekend being cooked for, again. the most incredible seafood chowder on friday, beef wellington for a pot luck birthday dinner on saturday, full-on thanksgiving feast on sunday (his housemate's american).)

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Yay Alfred that's a good story. I think you'll be pleasantly happy to discover that your dad is way cooler with this a year from now than you'd anticipate? I hope so

I think so! I've learned enough about diplomacy to accept that his remark about not forcing him to walk out when relatives/friends "reject" me is face-saving, so I didn't protest.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

what's an Irish disposition?

Cheerful and talkative in my experience

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

haha, not in my part o' Jersey!

no fgti, I just don't go out on Sunday nights (much). I wouldn't accuse you of being part of an accomplished karaoke session, that's apparently Alfred's thing.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 01:29 (thirteen years ago)

I think the only ILX witness is sarge, who saw me doing ABC's "The Look of Love."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

I'll see you and raise you Bacharach/Dusty Springfield's

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

My whole office saw me do "Teenage Dream" at the holiday party last winter. It's been a hostile 11 months since.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

I'll see you and raise you Bacharach/Dusty Springfield's

oh I can do it too

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't tried. I have done "What's New Pussycat?"

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

Wd probably do a very convincing "Walk On By."

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

alfred is a fine karaoke singer. you can see a photo of me singing in the new edition of gr80's zine.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

oh my god does every gay know every bacharach
i call dibs on san jose

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:46 (thirteen years ago)

Actually, my most appropriate theme song would be "The Last One To Be Loved."

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

i have witnessed morbs doing karaoke firsthand fyi

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:31 (thirteen years ago)

fgti i am always so mad that no karaoke place ever seems to have "are you there (with another girl)"

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:31 (thirteen years ago)

Holy shit, Alfred, that's an incredible turn of events! I'm really happy for you. You too, Elmo A. Maude bless us, one and all!

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 05:57 (thirteen years ago)

Same here, Alfred and Elmo (hi, thread!). I've been lurking for some time and following your tales with interest. I'm still unsure as to when I'll reveal all to my parents. I've already told a bunch of friends, my sisters and some ill-advised crushes, but I don't feel the urge to talk about it much atm, and I don't really want to say much to my parents until I've found someone I want to introduce to them. That's not really a prerequisite, though. P sure they've figured out what's happening, but they're from a quite conservative town, surrounded by conservative people, and I don't really want the news to be widespread just yet. I'm enjoying this thread and wish I weren't halfway across the world from most of you, otherwise it'd be nice to hang out. Would esp. love to karaoke. Hardly ever get the chance here, and the k-bars are fairly underwhelming. Also, it's flattering to see some redhead love - until recent dating/pr0n trawling I hadn't realised there were so many redhead fanciers.

in the business of making memories (qiqing), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 07:14 (thirteen years ago)

Hi qiquing. Redheads are very nice. There are definitely people who fetishize them - you - but also plenty of people who just appreciate redheads.

ILX is a worldwide plague, so maybe some of us in your area!

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 07:46 (thirteen years ago)

xp That's pretty much the line I take with my extended fam. I did the coming out thing with my parents and I mention it casually around my cousins, but I figure my aunts/uncles, grandparents, whoever can just find out when I bring someone to Thanksgiving. Really, the only reason they really haven't is because I haven't found someone I want to bring around the family.

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, there's more to this, but I'm not exactly gonna blurt out all and sundry on an intro to thread. But yeah, rev, i'm happy for some of my extended family to know and i know they'd be cool, but there are others who have intimated they know and i don't feel as if it's their business, esp. since they've displayed animosity and hypocrisy that makes me think twice about divulging. Some kind of Irish Catholic shenanigans, repression, pathos and shame, probably.

in the business of making memories (qiqing), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

i call dibs on san jose

elmo an i did a duet on this.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

haha yes we did

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

my go-to karaoke number is TLC's waterfalls, even though i can never do left eye's rap justice so i just dance the interlude

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Whoa! Alfred! That's really something. Ditto elmo. 2012's really been a banner year, huh?

Yesterday was officially a month of being single and I met him after class at his apartment to pick up some of my stuff and say hi to the cats (who have grown so much!) and ended up hanging out for an hour and just talking. It was oddly comfortable. Faster than I thought it would be. I'm not moving on emotionally as quickly as him but I really believe we're going to be cool in my gut and not just theoretically. So that's nice, I guess.

It helps that I've been doing pretty well generally with school and eating well and whatnot, although my sleep cycle is still crap. It also helps that the breakup finally made it click for me that while I can care about him and be his friend, I can't (and don't want to) invest more energy into his mental space/stability/etc. than my own anymore.

So yeah. Done being sad. Done laundry. Almost done the semester. Onwards and upwards etc.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

I really need to find time for karaoke.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

Also, is qiqing new or a new name for an old friend or someone who recently joined us who I missed meeting due to absence?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

(p.s. NYC folks - I might come to your city again in early January. I was supposed to spend my three weeks off classes in small town Quebec/the woods with the ex and his family and sitting around my apartment while friends are all home is almost as depressing as spending the whole time in Ottawa with the family, so if I can wiggle the budget I'll try to visit. This time the lack of boy means I'll actually be available for drinks. Keep you posted)

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

I can't (and don't want to) invest more energy into his mental space/stability/etc. than my own anymore.

i feel like this is a very important lesson, in general, for life.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

alfred, fantastic!

hi qiqing!

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

I don't feel the urge to talk about it much atm, and I don't really want to say much to my parents until I've found someone I want to introduce to them. That's not really a prerequisite, though. P sure they've figured out what's happening

this is exactly what i did/thought... turned out okay

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

I though Waiting For The Right Time and Waiting For The Right Guy meant unnecessary tension, so when I saw my chance I took it, but I'm loath to give advice on this very point: only you know your parents.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

Hi qiqing!!

I love doing "Waterfalls" at karaoke but I only ever want to do the rap part.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Welcome, qiqing!

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

Hi, guys! Yes, Alex, I'm new here, but as I noted upthread, I've been lurking for some time.

in the business of making memories (qiqing), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

hi there!

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

qiqing's arrival reminds me that i've been here almost exactly 3 yrs now

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

And you still feel like one of the newbies on these threads.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

indeed

where has my life gone ;_;

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

Big zit on my forehead and I'm not feeling very gay about it, even by my own standards.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

qiqing, you can only contribute if you post at least one photo.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Shirtless.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Especially if you're a chick.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

let's have a qiqi!

jed_, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

loooool

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

BOOTS! 10! QUEEN!

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Are we doing shirtless winter pics?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

long johns

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

Lol, nice try, Alfred.

in the business of making memories (qiqing), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

not until i find a camera that flatters my recently-formed gut xps

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

we should have a winter gut pic thread

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

SORREE SKINNEES

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

Lol, nice try, Alfred.l

"try"?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

I am all for gut pics.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not especially for or against gut pics, but I can certainly fill that requirement these days.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

bellydancing pics or gtfo

in the business of making memories (qiqing), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

sodomite heal thyself

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

I already posted (part of) my gut upthread; it's y'alls turn now.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

Stevie is that Boots ref from Paris is Burning? I just had a look at the drag realness clip on youtube but it's not on there and it's bugging me

i will never wash these signed breasts (qiqing), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

No, it's a lyric from "Let's Have A Kiki". Though I have been using "SHAKE THE DICE AND STEAL THE RICE" quite a bit recently.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, ha, I'm unfamiliar with that Scissor Sisters song. Love "shake the dice and steal the rice". How many phrases did that guy coin?

i will never wash these signed breasts (qiqing), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

I thought that line was stolen from The Deer Hunter.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

xp like 4500

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

My friend got me a "BUTCH QUEEN FIRST TIME IN DRAG" all-over word shirt which I am in love with (but slightly annoyed that they used Helvetica instead of Franklin Gothic)

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

thank God I rewatched 3 months ago, my brain heavily erases every year

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 04:22 (thirteen years ago)

I don't remember any kikis is The Deer Hunter.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 05:54 (thirteen years ago)

yo fuck every employee at every sex shop who ever told me silicone lube doesn't stain.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 07:45 (thirteen years ago)

wut, i thought silicone's staining properties were well-known

ゑ (clouds), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Hi qiqing!

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I always thought it stained! But I kept asking people and everyone kept telling me that it shouldn't stain. But it does.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

And I'm using a hybrid water/silicone one too

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Boo silicone lube anyway. Try Boy Butter or Str8cam (I think it is called) lube.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

so apparently spicy food doesn't agree with my medical regimen this week. I'll be goddamned if i'm going to eat kale 3-4x a week.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

I always use Maximus but it's hard to find in Philly in small bottles. Morbs, kale smoothies are easy and delicious.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I always thought it stained! But I kept asking people and everyone kept telling me that it shouldn't stain. But it does.

― goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:11 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And I'm using a hybrid water/silicone one too

― goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:12 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Boo silicone lube anyway. Try Boy Butter or Str8cam (I think it is called) lube.

― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:17 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so apparently spicy food doesn't agree with my medical regimen this week. I'll be goddamned if i'm going to eat kale 3-4x a week.

― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:30 AM

Saul Bellow couldn't have come up with segues this precise.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

One of the good inks about being in a long term relationship: you can buy lube in Costo-like proportions.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Middle-aged faggotry: Lube out, Immodium in.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

what did the lube stain, steve

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

just some cheap jersey sheets that I don't even care all that much about, anyway.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

"jersey sheets" liitle known Springsteen B-side

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

tabes is in NYC, I should call hin up to get a kale smoothie.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

LOO, Alfred.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

um, LOL

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

Guys, do you have any good queer newsy/general interest blogs that you follow? I've been following Towleroad for years but these days it seems like 2/3 of the stories are either "Crazy Republican Says Something Stupid" (why is this news?) and "Watch This Video Of Hot Army Guys Lip-Syncing To The New Katy Perry Single" (no, thanks). Joe My God is mostly the same. I need something a little more substantial.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

What could be more "general interest" than hot army guys?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

short answer is "none." JoeMyGod lives in the Democratic Party's butt.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

He's also sort of reductive and bullyish

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

In my experience, Towle is basically the best, but I haven't looked very hard for gay news fixes.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, granted, his targets are generally awful people, but it's still embarrassingly juvenile at times and I also don't see what purpose any of it serves when all of his readers are already on the same page. It's not like he's fostering some sort of dialogue or presenting thought-provoking pieces.

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

It's all about the amen chorus / echo chamber.

I check Towle but more often Squarehippies, cuz gay is about skin now that the politics have been rendered almost meaningless.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

There it is. Just choose porn.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/129361136/christian_porn_tshirt.jpg?height=380&width=380

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

i can almost deal with towleroad if i just don't read the comments ever

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

but i mean rule #1 of the internet etc

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

if yr looking for stuff that is not necessarily aligned with the G part of LGBT spectrum, prettyqueer and autostraddle have good stuff

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

i followed some gay blogz for abt a day before i wanted to kill myself

ゑ (clouds), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

Towle at least has occasional columns from Ari Waldman, who usually addresses complex topics in a clear and interesting way.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

why the hell not:

http://i46.tinypic.com/1zx1305.jpg

ゑ (clouds), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

not pictured: appendix scar, long johns

ゑ (clouds), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

is that what you call it

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

File under cuddly

srsly, I am unable to participate despite my qualifications.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

i wouldn't call it for dinner xp

morbs, yr here in spirit

ゑ (clouds), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

we won't be able to find that in the Winter Gaybernation thread tho.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

oops

could be an opportunity to take a better photo

ゑ (clouds), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

I followed Queerty for a while, then made the mistake of reading a racist-ass comment thread and decided it wasn't worth my blood pressure.

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsibosl4nU1r16jr3o1_500.gif

jed_, Thursday, 29 November 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna mention Queerty earlier but didn't want to cause I figured it was lame, but now that Rev brought it up I can say that yeah I read Queerty sometimes, but I don't necessarily recommend it.

I find that the comment sections of most, if not all, sites are best avoided.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)

I just read the RSS feeds in google reader

goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

Cuet, clouds!

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

i just realized dina martina's xmas show is running while i'm in seattle next week and i am EXCITE:DDDD about it

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

more substantial than towelroad/joemygod is bilerico project maybe but its super earnest and politically kindof stunted. not really ever about **hot guyzz** though

plax (ico), Friday, 30 November 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

pretty substantial literary list for 2012 here:

http://bandofthebes.typepad.com/bandofthebes/2012/11/the-best-lgbt-books-of-2012.html

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:53 (thirteen years ago)

Dale Carptenter's Flagrant Conduct, about Lawrence v. Texas, is some kind of page turner

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:56 (thirteen years ago)

I do remember the basics of that case .... and am intrigued by Single: Arguments for the Uncoupled.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)

Since February I've flirted with this biology student on the intercampus shuttle, one of those youngsters infatuated with his sense of outrage (e.g. loudly explaining to a friend how a black guy praised his "cornfed ass" last weekend). Today he sat a row behind me. As we exited, the two of us going our separate ways, he called after me, "Allllfred...you're not saying goodbye?" I said goodbye and handed him a piece of notepaper on which I'd written my phone number and "Call or text me." I walked towards my building, leaving him there gaping.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:20 (thirteen years ago)

nice!

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)

:-)

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:07 (thirteen years ago)

the guy that sits next to me in my history class has been flirting pretty heavily lately — today i came into class still sweating from my bike ride and i think he was semi-covertly smelling me

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)

I, on the other hand, keep attracting the attention of 19-20 year old girls on campus, apparently oblivious to my age (which, yeah, I'm told I do not look) or the ring on my finger. But they're university girls, so I doubt I'm the first or last homo any of them are gonna fall for before they graduate.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:12 (thirteen years ago)

Yo Alfo that's a p rad thing

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

I remain sequestered and unattractable.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

"Single" was written by one of my best friends! Well, he's friends with everybody everywhere, he's a very sociable homo. Morbs, it's very dense and academic and you'd love it.

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

cool! I should know more single English professors.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

He's a queer theory guy. You should meet him, he's an effusive Coloradan teetotal Mormon-obsessive. We're going hiking in Zion in March if I can get some shit finished.

Me, I'm at a high point in my relationship right now even at almost 10 years, swamped with work, his mother very sick, there is still an incredible optimism around us

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

<3

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

cool! I should know more single English professors.

but you do.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

we've been over online knowing before.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

The epistemology of ILE posting.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

wait, are we talking about M1chael c0bb? he is, indeed, super-charming- I've met him at conferences and he's a lot of fun, it's really easy to just strike up a long and groovy conversation with him- i haven't read the "single" book yet but I remember him telling me about it when he was working on it, and his critique of the couple-form's commitment to a kind of deathrace about who is going to survive whom was really sharp and smart.

scrolling over this thing after a week away, did we decide to do winter shirtless pics? or not? fill me in yo

the tune was space, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

dr3w I think it's well-established that shirtless pictures are always welcome (esp from you)

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

winter shirtless pics? lol. is there anything that won't prompt us to take shirts off in this thread?

sidenote: o - are you still moving to our city this month or has there been a delay? classes are done so i'm free to lift things/unload moving trucks in between exam-studying as necessary.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

dr3w I think it's well-established that shirtless pictures are always welcome (esp from you)

― jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:52 AM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp this is also very true tho. also lou. (i'm assuming that uttering his name will summon him to the thread.)

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

i love and cherish y'all but i have extremely stringent policies about broadcasting my flesh on the internet

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)

uh, the proposal was specifically for GUT pics.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

and it's not winter yet

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

unpack yr guts and get fagulous

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

i would also like to read the 'single' book

seattle is full of very handsome men btw

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

My ex and I slept together the other night

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

But we only shared a bed, we didn't fuck

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

but then I took a shower while he was brushing his teeth and it wasn't weird. This whole ex/friend thing is a strange thing!

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

I've seeing my personal trainer 2x/week for a couple months, so I'm feeling motivated to take off some clothes.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

i am eating well post-breakup, mostly because i live in my apartment and use my kitchen. no time for the gym, so i'm not 'in shape' per se but the relationship weight/stress-of-a-bad-relationship weight is slowly disappearing.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Going back to school in sept killed my workout schedule, and it probably shows. The stress of waiting to hear if I got into grad school for January ("any day now," they keep telling me) isn't helping either.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

i've always been a fan of chunk, so i feel no stress at my incipient chunkiness.

in other news, ph1l and i have been talking abt the possibility of a threesome?

sweetántangó (clouds), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

we've been having extremely frank conversations abt sex lately. it's been... liberating.

sweetántangó (clouds), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

I'm a huge fan of chunk, and I've still got mine, but my chunk is more defined now.

I've been wanting to explore cosmetic procedures and other elective surgery (e.g., correcting deviated septum, getting throat implants to stop eXtreme snoring). It feels like the same impulses from my 20s that led me to pierce every available flap of skin and tattoo flat parts. Except I can't DIY these.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

i would also like to read the 'single' book

seattle is full of very handsome men btw

― GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:26 AM Bookmark

oh dude i forgot you were around, we should kick it

rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

i would also like to read a single book

jed_, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

Yes we are talking about Cobb! Mentor to all Canadian gays. Alex I will text at you.

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

xpost to je55e i have been feeling this lately too re tattoos/piercings. i have some things i want to get after income starts flowing again.

sweetántangó (clouds), Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:02 (thirteen years ago)

i asked ph1l how he would feel abt a septum piercing and he was like "uhh if you want it!"

sweetántangó (clouds), Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

Yes we are talking about Cobb! Mentor to all Canadian gays. Alex I will text at you.

― a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As a Canadian gay, I must shamefully admit my ignorance here.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

Remember when we used to just post youtube links all the time like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7PYLoWAlhg

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)

DISCO PARTY ALL UP IN THE THREAD

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)

Also last winter thread was "Now that we found love etc." so it seems only fitting that we call this year's "Oh no, we all broke up with our boyfriends ;_; where did our love go Winter 2012"

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

I'll rebound you all.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:22 (thirteen years ago)

might as well lop it off

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)

and the seasons
they go round and round
and the painted ponies
go up and down

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

rev and i tore up the dancefloor in seattle tonight! it was super-fun

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

yaaaaaaahhhhh, it was ~magic~

rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

Pics!!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, no pics

rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

Enjoy.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2012/dec/09/anti-nudity-law-an-example-of-gay-mainstream/

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 10 December 2012 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

ugh lame

plax (ico), Monday, 10 December 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

On Friday I persuaded Nicolas Jaaar to squeeze my left arm in appreciation.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 03:48 (thirteen years ago)

But Wiener said the naked guys are the No. 1 problem he hears about from constituents — exceeding homelessness and transportation — and the people who complain most frequently are homosexual men.... For them, being a husband, mom, uncle or resident isn't about tearing down the community. It's about protecting it.

Fucking people.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

are they complaining about the existence of public nudity, or about the quality of public nudity

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

Are the bodies you see parading around nude in public usually the sort of bodies you'd want to see parading around nude in public?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

"councilman, i DEMAND you do something about these naked butts and why their skin is so loose and saggy."

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

The discoloration! Why won't anyone think of the discoloration?!

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

the only things i have to post in this thread are updates of everything my bf is cooking for me

so much amazing food, i am eating so well right now

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

I just made shakshuka this morning for a friend that stayed over last night; it was v good if I may say so myself!

http://theshiksa.com/images/2010/07/Shakshuka-Main-640x480.jpg

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

i have never heard of that but is it eggs poached in tomato sauce?

horse motivator (clouds), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

essentially yeah, a really chunky spicy cumin-y tomato sauce w/ chickpeas and feta

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Guys I think we should talk about jockstraps for a bit. Do any of you own or wear them?

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

i'm very very pro-jockstrap

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

My roommate gave me one a few months ago; I never really wore it until I decided to wear it under my jeans for a date a few days ago and it gave me this unexpected boost of empowerment and confidence!

But then yesterday I accidentally wore it to work and it felt really bizarre :/

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

i'm a fan but haven't worn or owned one since high-school football

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

never worn/owned one, won't rule out possibility that i might someday

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

I love jocks.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

i've never worn one, not even when i was on the wrestling team (lol) but i wd now

horse motivator (clouds), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

i mean i definitely appreciate them on certain bodies, for sure, but i don't feel my ass is quite deserving of being framed so

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Own one, love it (and love love love them on guys), but don't get to wear often; not my bf's preference for sexywear.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

jockstraps are a thing i fundamentally don't get

rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

As Roger Ebert says, you can't argue someone out of an erection.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

I find them more quaint and amusing than genuinely arousing

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

Have any of you just worn them in place of underwear before? To work or school or wherever?

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

i don't wear them... i like to see them being worn

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

Yeah. No big deal.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, they're really no fun unless in the bedroom. Or, you know, being used for their actual purpose, I suppose.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

I'd never heard of shakshuka, but it looks delicious! And very easy to make.

Jock straps make me feel uneasy, both wearing them and seeing them worn.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 06:49 (thirteen years ago)

I'm with rev, can't see the appeal of jockstraps. I like sock garters on some men, but not jockstraps. They look tacky.

bed raggled (qiqing), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

I own but it's been awhile since I've put it on for recreational fun.

Stevie, since my mouth tastes like socks from the pills I'm taking, I challenge you to cook me something I can taste.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

i posted this quote re: jockstraps in the summer 08 gay thread:

"... perhaps the quintessential homoerotic ritual robe because, just as it enshrines the symbol of the myth of masculinity, so too the straps that originate in the top elastic circumscribe the buttocks and disappear in the anus, bringing us to that place where masculinity meets its mythic undoing. And so, as suggested by the versatility of Apollo, there are two sides to the jockstrap that symbolize the homoerotic paradox: the pouch in the front as the shrine of masculinity joined to the straps in the back framing its mythic violation."

it bears repeating

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

mythic myth

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

why the fuck is the anus the "mythic undoing of masculinity"? Who wrote that?

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

writing (homo or hetero) that gets all "worshiping at the mystical shrine of genitalia" seems so silly to me

jockstraps have always seemed too, idk, functional and sporty to be sexy to me

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

steve: http://books.google.com/books?id=6uk7y9hdkqwC

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

functionally, jockstraps are about range of motion and keeping yr sensitive junk stationary and protected throughout those movements -- i've not read that book (tho i find that quote kind of hilarious) but i think the erotic appeal of the jockstrap is about its place in athletics & physical culture in general, about the forbidden rush seeing bodies in the locker room, and about the titillation of a transitional state of undress (concealed from the front, naked from behind)

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

imho

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

as I'm sure I've said before in these threads, my taste in guys runs distinctly toward the femmey. I've never had that sort of idolization of the athletic body.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

oh i love the athletic body but i'd far rather see it in sports kit (or, like, naked) - i think 1) jockstraps aren't a very british thing, so i don't have any sensual irl memories of them, 2) i do have irl memories of locker rooms and as much as hot naked sportsmen are great, locker rooms are basically kinda gross, esp school locker rooms

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

iirc the ideal placement of a jockstrap is on the beefy hindquarters of a rugby player

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

locker rooms are basically kinda gross, esp school locker rooms

otm x1000

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

few places i'd less rather be than a locker room

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

rugby players take the athletic body too far for me. TOO beefy really

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

different strokes, but i am mostly about THAT ASS and also THOSE THIGHS

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

This thread keeps pushing me closer to the realization that my tastes have been ruinously malformed via porn. Or else I'm the only one admitting it.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

in what direction?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

the older i get the more i realize my sexual tastes were formed while being in middle school wrestling and seeing the high school seniors weighing-in

horse motivator (clouds), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

^^ otm

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

so in love with the expression 'beefy hindquarters'

locker rooms are definitely where i perfected the art of the furtive glance

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

haha yup.

"oh no, my shoe is untied! guess i'll just stoop down and tie it very slowly and carefully. there. done. oh, well, what do you know! now my other shoe is untied."

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

Locker rooms were where I first noticed pecs.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

iirc the ideal placement of a jockstrap is on the beefy hindquarters of a rugby player in your face

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)

that jockstrap quote repeats too many words and tries super hard and reads like a precocious undergrad's attempt and failure of Academic Writing and also seems idk kind of gender reinforcey

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

i ordered some bike #10s a few months ago.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

summary judgment: there's a reason they stopped making them.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

mb the winter thread should contain jockstrap pics

horse motivator (clouds), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

It's too simplistic and reductive to say "masculinity is already defined and it's definition cannot be modified and getting some anus action is SO UNMASC; *points at jockstrap* isn't it such a quaint paradox???"

Like, rewrite the rules instead of buying into them, asshole

xp what is wrong w them?

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Corey otm

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Mines got green and gold stripes and matching tube socks, its too adorable, you'll love it.

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

they smell like polyblend and fall apart in the wash x-post

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

i do like the 3" waistband though.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

as my professors say: "show, don't tell"

horse motivator (clouds), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

white white white is the color of my jockstrap

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

worst john jacob niles concert ever

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/06/09/obituaries/09voutsinas/09voutsinas-articleInline.jpg

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

I hate people I don't like.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

i hate but love

horse motivator (clouds), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know what a jockstrap is, I know what it looks like, but divorced from first-hand knowledge of its functional applicability it is as foreign to me as garter-belts. I played some sports but never enough to have to wear a cup and/or a jockstrap so it's just some strappy underwear. If you're smiling while you're wearing one I'm into it.

bosch's bish (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

Locker rooms totally rule, though, I'm over it now but I was so into taking off my clothes in school, wooo

bosch's bish (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

If you're smiling while you're wearing one I'm into it

good life advice.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

er... life philosophy.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

If you're smiling while not wearing anything is good philosophy.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)

not smiling is hot too

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

fuck perkiness

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:40 (thirteen years ago)

no WAY if it gets to the point that you're down to jockstrap or w/e it better be in good cheer

bosch's bish (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

faux-model "sexy" looks are boring and forced

horse motivator (clouds), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

sex is boring and forced

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

i had a working interview / training with a new host at the restaurant, since one of our hostesses basically disappeared. he was a nice kid, twinkish with glasses, capable and teachable, so i think he might join the crew. when he was asked where he currently works, he replied that he works as "a men's health club" which definitely means he works at one of the 2 bath houses in town, so there's that?

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:49 (thirteen years ago)

not scandalous information per se, i just never considered what bath house employment must be like. it definitely involves laundering a lot of towels.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

i've never been to one u_u

horse motivator (clouds), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

maybe he's the next bette midler

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

has anyone seen Vito, where Vito Russo tries to end lez feminists vs drag queens fight at 1973 NY Pride March by bringing Bette Midler onstage? That's when I woulda started rioting.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

And it great to have friends?

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

And Ain't

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

I know a guy who got fired from St3@mw0rk5. It was a few weeks before he joined NA (not n/a).

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

BF and I are driving to Montreal
Listening to gay Montreal music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwbUPoXE2Ek

men, ugh (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

big montrealo disco fan here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=_mdRBa0p6lU

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

That was really cool, and yeah, really really gay. At least I now know what the last Scissor Sisters record shoulda sounded like rather than the shitpile that it was.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

hi gays!!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

Hi Alfred!

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

How's life?

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

I grabbed food from the campus holiday party: oversalted turkey-wrapped stuffing, ham, and mashed potatoes. The olives were martini olives! No martinis though.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

our holiday party was yesterday. gingerbread cake with rum sauce xD. straight manly man co-worker "stole" the taka boom record i got for the white elephant game:

http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh548/graypunk/gray2562.jpg

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

omg

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

he had this cute bewildered grin like he couldn't believe he got such a treasure. he's a single dad. *crushes*

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

The sort of guy most inclined towards a slightly drunk makeout.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

*puts thinking cap on*

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

i got nothin

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

i am still struggling through this paper, o. but if i have my druthers i will be done by late tonight. studying for two finals after this but things will be flexible enough to say hi.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

i went to the holiday party for headmaster magazine last night wearing musk aftershave and a bit of clove oil, apparently these scents are particularly enchanting to certain class of bearded man because were stopping me to say WHAT SCENT ARE YOU WEARING, YOU SMELL SO DELICIOUS and that's my bit of holiday party advice for you all

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Guys, I just found out that I got into grad shool.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 December 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

!!!

clouds, Saturday, 15 December 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

awesome!!

men, ugh (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 December 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

give us some details

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

Today I'm familiarizing myself with my new neighbourhood. Gym? Market? Pharmacy? Butcher? Hospital? Etc.

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

congratz!

lex pretend, Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

Gym? Market? Pharmacy? Butcher? Hospital?

<3 my neighbourhood for having all of these within two minutes walk of my front door (also a pub, crêperie, grocer etc) except the gym (i kept meaning to join a gym before i realised i could much the same effects for free by going running and doing weights etc)

lex pretend, Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks for the congrats, y'all!

Details: Went back to school in the fall after seven years (I had previously graduated with an Honours degree in English) in order to do some upgrades so I could apply to the grad program in English Language and Lit. Got word yesterday that the department voted unanimously to accept my application. Will be getting what I'm told is a sweet GA salary, and will have the honour of working for a brilliant Canadian poet, who was also my advisor through this whole thing and really helped me out the whole way (and who'd already be the awesomest and nicest person ever even if she weren't also an amazing writer). Needless to say, life is very, very good right now.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)

OMG I love that and I love this brilliant Canadian poet, congratulations times a million

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Running + weights at home is my ideal situation but I love a weekly swim and a Smith machine
Also some beefcakes hanging around like a carrot on a string

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Also, bf had been dropping hints that we might be getting a second puppy for xmas if I got in, so...

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-28bSmh_ChJY/T0kLIOUrhnI/AAAAAAAAId4/dumE7K9OoqI/s1600/Funny+Boston+Terrier+Puppy_3.jpg

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

omg stop it I can't

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 15 December 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

crypto, congrats esp if no mountain of debt is involved.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

congrats crypto!

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Today I'm familiarizing myself with my new neighbourhood. Gym? Market? Pharmacy? Butcher? Hospital? Etc.

― you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, December 15, 2012 10:02 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where did you end up finding a place? because if you're in my neighbourhood the Y is pretty affordable, although i can't really speak to the beefcake situation.

there's a pharmacy in the jean coutu and the uniprix and a couple of great family-run indian grocery stores.

also, i can think of three different butchers, including one kosher butcher within two blocks of the bagels.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

I found everything! I bought and cooked a massive amount of cabbage and broccoli and kale for a couple days of snacking, and some beef and sausages at Vito's. Tomorrow it's a haircut and reinstating myself at the Y

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 16 December 2012 02:58 (thirteen years ago)

Thank you ppl who've congrat'd me since I last thanked ppl for congrating me.

(Bit tipsy right now in celebration)

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Sunday, 16 December 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

snacking on kale, u effing rockstar

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 December 2012 06:24 (thirteen years ago)

Roast it for 4 minutes at 425 with oil, snack all day, rock all night

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 16 December 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

No better way to begin a Sunday than with Teena Marie and Chris Hayes.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 December 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

in my case, hugging the bf for an entire sade album

lex pretend, Sunday, 16 December 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

SO HUNGOVER THO might die

lex pretend, Sunday, 16 December 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

in my case, hugging the bf for an entire sade album

lex!!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 December 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

I listened to the entire 2-disc Tom Moulton Soul Jazz comp half-asleep on a Megabus from DC. That was nice-ish.

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 16 December 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

In fairness listening to that Tom Moulton comp anywhere is nice.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 16 December 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

It is!! And it's so rare that I have a solid distraction-free 2+ hours to dedicate to listening to something like that in its entirety. On the ride down on Thurs morn I knocked out one of the equally long Disco Discharge comps ("European Connection" I think? The one w/ "Hills of Katmadu" on it, props to clouds for the tipoff)

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

:3

clouds, Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

crypto, who is this Canadian poet? as a poet, and a fan of many Canadian poets, my inquiring mind desires to know.

also, HI GAYS. had fun in NYC, though didn't see any ilxorz, sadly. (morbz, come to my reading at Zinc Bar in March!)

now i am back in oakland and all goes swimmingly. got called off work today, so i'm going to take a bath, eat cookies, read Foucault, and listen to Stars of the Lid, wondering when they will put out a new album because dammit.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

i am in hangover solidarity with you lex, oooooy

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

also it looks as tho i'll be up in the bay sometime next summer again (B got a writers' residency in the north bay)

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

nice! hopefully i won't be shirking all my worldly responsibilities to be a bum this time.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

in my case, hugging the bf for an entire sade album

― lex pretend, Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:57 AM Bookmark

omg

The Reverend, Sunday, 16 December 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

tabes: Susan Holbrook. Published in quite a few poetry journals so if you follow contemporary poetry to a reasonable degree, there might be a good chance you've run across her. I'll know a lot more about this stuff in a few months time, as the class I'm GAing is her Canadian poetry course.

Everyone read her "Good Egg Bad Seed" (from the collection "Joy is So Exhausting") if it is at all possible for you to do so.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 17 December 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

since i've started going out w/M, a lot of people have made comments along the lines of how they're glad i'm getting into cooking, now that i'm dating a boy who loves to cook. and i'm like, no, i'm further away than ever: watching people cook doesn't make me think, wow, that looks easy, i could do that; it makes me think, wow, that is actual MAGIC, i could NEVER do that, it would go so wrong! instead, i seem to have gone from zero to obsession with cryptic crosswords (which he loves). i'd never even tried one before august and now i'm addicted.

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Just as long as you're doing the washing up, you're pulling your weight.

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 December 2012 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

lex, does your boy make fun of, for instance, your absolute terror at the thought of having to boil pasta?

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 December 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

i can boil pasta, ACTUALLY, though he has made fun of (and indeed banished me from the kitchen in disgrace for) my inability to grate cheese

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

but he still cooks everything from sea bass to beef wellington to yule logs to seafood chowder for me, so it doesn't matter

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Beef Wellington!!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

music, cooking, boyfriends -- I'm trying to think of any of my betes noires u guys are overlooking these days.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 December 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Target?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

I am a crossword fiend but I have never cottoned onto cryptics, after many many attempts

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

...wait what is a Yule log? Like a cheese log?

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

It's where Doug Yule recorded the indignities Lou Reed inflicted on him.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

it's a massive chocolate and cream roll - http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2012/dec/13/how-cook-perfect-yule-log

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

You hate food, song and sex, Morbs?

I mean, I only hate one of those three.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

I thought "sex" made your list four.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

BFs /= sex

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

and food is meant to prepared by others to save me precious time

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

I could easily have a boyfriend without sex in the equation.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

I view cooking as a way to avoid listening to music, toying with the computer, or watching movies.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

all of those things are better than cooking though, like why would i ever want to avoid them? apart from the internet obv but in that case i'm usually trying to avoid work and don't have time to cook

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

the only reason I do any paid work at all is so that I can afford nice ingredients to cook with

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

^^^gets it

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

Nice ingredients to eat drink with.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

ll of those things are better than cooking though, like why would i ever want to avoid them?

cuz I'm doing them all day, even at work?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Cooking is my default setting for procrastination. Typically I know when work is going badly when I'm running out to buy chickens to roast for everybody

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

i made a humongous pot of chili last night btw

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

gonna be my dinner the rest of the week

gonna get real sick of chili after this week

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

i did the same thing with a peanut soup, except my pot wasn't big enough, so i had an overflow pot.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

i always do this when payday is in a week and i have ten dollars.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

(hat tip to ilx poster crabbits for the awesome peanut soup recipe btw)

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

i've always been in the same boat as lex w/r/t cooking, but a few weeks ago i decided i could no longer stand the crappy diet i've been on since moving to NYC and living solo. that frustration + the ILX paleo diet thread inspired me to look up some simple paleo recipes and give them a try and whoa! i can totally do this. it's like i have magic hands--everything that used to seem so impossible and unbearable to me is suddenly so easy. feels great to cut down on all the bread products and pasta i'd been overdoing. not being strict too strict with the paleo thing, though--mainly using it for meal ideas.

i'm amused at how cooking and traveling were two things i always avoided in my previous relationship but now i'm regularly doing both.

boss & toss (lou), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

proud of u. <3

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

oh, crypto, i know who Susan Holbrook is, i like her all right but she's sometimes a bit too trad for my tastes. i hope that you cover the greatest living canadian poet in that class— LISA ROBERTSON. best teacher, most excellent person, and one of the most bad-ass poets i've ever met. she had an entire issue of the Chicago Review dedicated to her a while ago, so it would be weird if she wasn't covered. also, Clint Burnham, Peter Culley, and a few other notables from the Kootenay School out here on the west coast.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:51 (thirteen years ago)

in terms of cooking, i still don't get how people don't cook. it literally boggles my mind.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:52 (thirteen years ago)

jesus christ i have explained this multiple times now and if i try again people will yell at ME for harping on about it. short version, once again: i am terrible and woeful and inept at it and everything goes wrong if i try, and relatedly i really dislike it.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 08:26 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder how much money we could raise to cover the costs of getting ted and lex in a room together and then locking that room and then filming it for a while

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

lol. I don't know about lex, having not met him in person (although I'm sure he is too), but ted's a totally nice guy irl.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

oh lex, i wasn't trying to chastise you, it is just so foreign to me, you know? that said, seems like yr man has you covered :-)

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

lex is a terrific guy irl and never once did we discuss indie

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

guys i'm gonna vent for a sec

i take out the trash every damn time. i put away the clean dishes before stacking more on top. i dont shove shit into the fridge until getting things out is like playing a game of jenga (ok sometimes i do this).

before i left this morning i did this really lame passive aggressive thing and put the kitchen garbage in the middle of the floor with the lid off. MAYBE HE'LL TAKE THE DAMN THING OUT, IT'S BEEN FULL FOR FOUR DAYS! he'll be annoyed at passive aggression and i'll feel selfish, lame and diminished, but maybe i won't have to empty the garbage this time.

ughhh

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

roommate?

clouds, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

boyfriend

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

Remind him that bestiality holds no attraction for you: you won't fuck a pig.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

although that is depressingly otm as of late xp.

lol, i'm the one who always ends up asking for sex. he can go for months. also it can never be before midnight. also his bedtime is 4 am and he gets up at 1 every day and in spite of all the times i've tried to be profoundly ok with this i can never manage to get there.

*sigh*

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

ok i'm done. this is gross.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

what does he do in the daytime that allows him to get up at 1pm? does he work late?

jed_, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

he works in the afternoon for five hours and a graveyard one night a week.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

ok what time does he finish on a normal day? and what age is he?

jed_, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

My bf cooks, so I don't have to. I recommend his seafood pasta with blush sauce if any of you are ever in the neighbourhood.

I thought not having to go months w/o sex was one of the main reason we dated guys.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

Tonight at gay bar nightcap. 1) Cute bartender from the place I do trivia every week came up to me and said "I wasn't going to NOT say hi to you." 2) Told ex he was going to have to basically rape me if he wanted it.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 05:32 (thirteen years ago)

So much clarity comes from the third whiskey.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

Hm I haven't had a night out since I moved, it's all been lunch and dinner dates. And today a brunch date.

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

have you moved out of TO?

jed_, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Yah.

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

FREEEEEDOM. sigh. for a few weeks at least. this semester was like a marathon followed by a final sprint and i am very glad it's done.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 20 December 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

:D!

clouds, Thursday, 20 December 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

I had forgotten how exhausting school can become by semesters end. But it was all worth it. Still gonna relish the next couple weeks myself, though, even though a lot of it will be spent visiting/being visited by family and outta town friends.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 December 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

I just ran into Alex at the gym but I'd done enough squats to pass out and the conversation was like this

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/20431827/images/1345684531553.gif

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

Alex in Montreal?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:02 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah! Going to meet him for a drink right... now!

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

Alex is damn cool

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

neglected to mention that he convinced me to go to the gym in the first place because it's good for me, instead of taking a nap post-four hour final final exam that ended at 6. i mean, he was right. i felt way better running than i would have napping. but still.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 20 December 2012 07:05 (thirteen years ago)

it's nice to have another friendly face in the neighbourhood over the next few weeks when everyone i know disappears for exciting and sunny and expensive places.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 20 December 2012 07:06 (thirteen years ago)

i identify so much with this article on cooking: http://www.xojane.com/relationships/im-a-bad-cook

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

(yes, whenever people yell at me about cooking i find i basically have to trawl the internet for articles about the stupid thing that will comfort me)

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:03 (thirteen years ago)

i find it unbelievable that in the comments there are STILL people yelling at her to cook

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:08 (thirteen years ago)

Hm I think you're aware that "I love cooking and can't imagine a life without it" = "I will cook for you at any time" =/= "Lex you should try cooking again". Me, I can't drive

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Alex is damn cool, co-sign. And his straight couple roommates were very tolerant of my inevitable "have babies now!" speech

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Only one of them is my roommate! The other is just my best girlfriend who is dating my roommate and thus stays over a lot.

They both thought you were really lovely, though. Even the baby speech.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 20 December 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know if my apartment could really handle three people living here full time. The handful of nights pre-breakup when both of them AND JF and I were all here were pretty crowded. Although, I did get to make pancakes for a full kitchen, which was nice.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 20 December 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

d & i have a (female) friend of ours living with us for a few months. it's been an adjustment. i love her and she's been nothing less a perfect, respectful roommate but man i can't wait for it to be the two of us again

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 20 December 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

i do not enjoy having to knock on my own bathroom door to see if anyone's in there, and i miss not caring whether that same door is open when i pee

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

i just had a really nice, friendly conversation with one of my housemates! i made him a cup of tea! i feel like i've done some my duty for the, er, month or something

(there are 4 of us and we do all like each other, no simmering unpleasantness or anything, but there's def a split in that two of us are proper friends with each other and the other two are friends with each other. i have done my bit in bridging the divide and feel virtuous)

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

my bf's parents are coming up to visit tomorrow and are staying at his place for two weeks :o

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

is that while the two of you visit here, dr?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

they go back the day we leave for nyc, actually, worked out nicely

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

my bf has now gone to india for xmas and new year >:(

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

i made him a cup of tea!

you mean you cooked him a cup of tea.

jed_, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

why India? That sounds nice!

It's my grandma's 91st birthday tomorrow. I woke up early and booked my train ticket home. Realizing that I'd be out of the home until the 27th, I quickly took care of some dirty dishes, cooked what was in the fridge, ate some and put what was left in a container, took out the trash, packed, showered, dressed, locked up, and went to the nearest major intersection to flag a cab. No cab came, and still no cab, and then one came, after I'd sent several anguished texts at my bf, and then the cab was in gridlock, and I called my bf to see if he could refund or exchange my non-refundable non-exchangeable train ticket, and then I got snippy, and I tipped the cab driver but didn't thank him, and I thought about running back to tell the guy in that cube van that his double-parking made me miss my train, and I sat down and tried to phone my bf, and he didn't answer and I started to feel very strange, and I called instead my best friend and told him I was having a panic attack, because the next train gets in quite late and all my brothers have come from far further destinations than Montreal, with children, and I was the irresponsible one, and it was all because I couldn't leave a fridge full of food to spoil, and furthermore my boyfriend wouldn't answer the phone even though he knew I was going to call him, and I started to feel dizzy, and my best friend told me to visit the bathroom at the train station and masturbate and indulge in a violent sex fantasy, which made me laugh, and then my boyfriend called me back and I cried a little, and he yelled at me because he was caught in traffic and had to pull over to answer my call, and a few minutes later things started to seem OK again, I bought a sparkling water and found some wireless, and now things are great again. It's amazing what anxiety can do, it's like a tropical storm.

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

feel ya

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

travel, cars, ppl

tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

When strangers get angsty about these things and have a tearful phonecall in public there's a part of me that wants to tell them to chill out or go home, but man it sucks to be in that position

There should be public brooding closets in all train stations and airports

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

yikes. i always try to leave super-early for flights/trains because i'm scared of precisely that sort of thing happening

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

I hate travel for many of the reasons fgti just experienced. Also, I am the irresponsible one.

Also, lol @ "public brooding closets"

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

I hate travel for many of the reasons fgti just experienced. Also, I am the irresponsible one.

Also "public brooding closet" is as apt a description of ilx as I've read in a while

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck me for trying to capture that message before it fully sent

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

still hoping I can spend Xmas housebound and alone. Best option.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

As I get older I want less fuss but Xmas Eve is the only holiday I can't imagine spending alone.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

New Year's Eve is the only holiday I'm usually totally cool with being alone. (I don't observe Valentine's Day.)

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Alfred, Morbs--you are both welcome over on Xmas eve. There'll be plenty of food.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

aaah goon tie's experience = any time i have to leave the house

when i'm actually *travelling* (like, if it involves a suitcase and a train out of london/flight) it's actually easier because i'm so paranoid - if it's just getting myself together to go into town, that's pretty much my default setting :( i do love travelling and wish i could do more of it, though.

bf goes travelling in every school holiday, basically. he likes getting away from it all and going to out-of-the-way countryside places on a whim to do nothing. it's funny how completely opposite we are, when i travel i gravitate towards cities and places where shit happens and i start to fret if i'm out of range of one for too long.

i hate, hate, hate xmas and particularly resent it this year. alone and housebound is my dream as well. when people tell me to stop being a grinch i'm just like, i'm happy for u that u have a tolerable family, but also fuck off. NYE otoh (and the week leading up to it) is the celebration of my urban family, my friends, the people i consider my real family tbh. every day from the 28th through to NYE is packed out now and i can't wait :)

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

i used to really love xmas (i was still making xmas chains when i was like, seventeen) but i've cooled on it considerably as an adult and the having to buy presents part hasn't even registered with me yet. really relieved i'm doing my traveling post-NYD, may just do this forever from now on

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

xmas chains

hmmmmmm?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://erinbrans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/IMG_5735.jpg

you rip one off for each day leading up to xmas

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

ah, maybe not as widespread a practice in my burg of youth

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

Best part of Xmas is buds in town. Just got.invited to.karaoke with two newly single women and their gay pal, who I intend to purloin from his boyfriend

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

can't you just put it in a stocking for a week?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

The boyfriend?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

I'm excited to see all my brothers
I'll try and get a photo
They are all exceptionally handsome and tall (even more so when I'm standing amongst them)

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

That is, they all tower over me and I'm six feet :/

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

^exact same thing with all my cousins on my mom's side of the family. whenever i get together with them i just feel like fuck you, 6'0 means i'm not supposed to be the runt

Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

after much prodding, bf finally convinced me to grow my first beard.

boss & toss (lou), Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

pix

tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

9 days without a cigarette and i am starting to realize wow my bedroom smells like a couple of sweaty gay dudes, i'd crack a window but they're sealed shut for the season

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

nothing special but it certainly feels strange :)

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/superflouis/Photo139D_zpsd6e49f2d.jpg

boss & toss (lou), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

i hate the holidays mostly because i don't enjoy spending too much time with my family, and i thought i was going to have to go through that torture this year, but alas, the job is keeping me with my real family— friends. perhaps lex and i have found a common ground, then.

hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

scruff is an A+ look on you lou :)

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

Not much isn't.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 21 December 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

Lou: ONE OF US ONE OF US

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Friday, 21 December 2012 03:09 (thirteen years ago)

nice!

tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Friday, 21 December 2012 05:27 (thirteen years ago)

This is the wrong place for a song ID but I figured I'd pose it to the gays because a) it's a little embarrassing, b) I have no idea if the song is like totally famous and I'm an idiot, and c) the song is relevant to thread.

But I can't find the song anywhere

A music video I saw only once when I was a teenager. The song was, I thought, called "Farmer" and had a woman singing about how farmers were hot. She ran her fingers up and down a farmer's sixpack in a cornfield. I think it was a dancehall song but my mind was being blown so my memory is hazy.

capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 21 December 2012 06:27 (thirteen years ago)

would watch.

jed_, Friday, 21 December 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

perhaps lex and i have found a common ground, then.

i swear there was one (1) before this, iirc it was to do with hating something or other

lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

The Lost Horizon musical disaster of '73 is out on BR/DVD... I wonder how many times KJB has watched it.

Larry Kramer wrote the screenplay. THAT one.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 December 2012 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't even mention it in my review because I guess he only did it so he could effectively retire from that line of work and turn, instead, to researching the fact that every great American throughout history was actually gay.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 21 December 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

aren't you kinda mashing him up w/ Frau Ehrenstein? He was kinda busy w/ ACT UP too.

I own the double-gatefold vinyl sndtrk of LH. Have never played it.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 December 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

I do remember "Living Together, Growing Together" on AM radio tho

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 December 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't it Kramer who was working on that 10,000 page almanac of gay American history?

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Is Lost Horizon '73 fascinating bad or just bad bad? Like, should I bother?

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

You don't wanna watch Liv Ullman sing?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Ugh, my backlog of movies I need to watch is imposing enough without you dangling a singing Liv Ullman in front of me.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

it's Ullmann, u naifs

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

This isn't bad enough to be good. Ullmann without a context of Scandinavian depression is like a black hole on the screen.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Ebert: "The dancers march about and twirl their scarves as is Leni Reifenstahl's 'Triumph of the Will' had somehow been gotten pregnant by Busby Berkeley."

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

*as if

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, if this does anything for you, then I guess take the plunge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8FVHOJko4c

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

We have a houseguest but he is staying on our couch and he is staying for like a month or so and he is sort of there on the couch all the time, and he is so nice and awesome and etc but like jeez I wish I had the house to myself during the day like I usually do

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

I went to bed at 3 a.m. last night after karaoke with a friend, several Newcastles and G&Ts, and a valedictory bowl while listening to Saint Etienne and King Sunny Ade. The holidays, they call it.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 December 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

sry we're too busy pressing our bodies against naked men to notice how cold it is WINTER THREAD gay homo queer &c 2013

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

This is some sounds like B12 in 2012 absolutely WOW type shit right here (thanking u LWE end of year tracks list):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80TlUX7ueTk

formerly EDB (ed.b), Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:57 (thirteen years ago)

wow, wrong thread.

formerly EDB (ed.b), Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:57 (thirteen years ago)

it's okay, gay ppl like B12 too.

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:58 (thirteen years ago)

some of them

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:58 (thirteen years ago)

lol

jed_, Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

Worst part is that wasn't even the right mix! (It's this is anyone's still interested)

formerly EDB (ed.b), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

that's the same link, bro.

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)

Oh... Seems I only posted the wrong link in the techno/house bobbins thread. Whew, this just isn't my day...

formerly EDB (ed.b), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:06 (thirteen years ago)

that's fucking beautiful btw

jed_, Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

Actually, while I'm here, can I mention that today I started reading this: http://books.google.ca/books/about/The_Logic_of_the_Lure.html?id=O1LUrq-XfJUC&redir_esc=y

formerly EDB (ed.b), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:08 (thirteen years ago)

that looks great

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:10 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, would read

curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)

Mod should probably lock this thread. Or Maude should.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:16 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that book looks right up my alley

jed_, Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)


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