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NY crix, having wrapped crix screenings of crix films for the end of crix season (and not keen on screeners of hoi polloi faves such as The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel in their mailboxes), say October 18th is early enough.

http://www.indiewire.com/article/gotham-awards-announce-2012-nominations?page=2#articleHeaderPanel

Best Feature

Bernie; Richard Linklater, director (Millennium Entertainment)
The Loneliest Planet; Julia Loktev, director (Sundance Selects)
The Master; Paul Thomas Anderson, director (The Weinstein Company)
Middle of Nowhere; Ava DuVernay, director (AFFRM and Participant Media)
Moonrise Kingdom; Wes Anderson, director (Focus Features)

Best Documentary
Detropia; Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady, directors (Loki Films)
How to Survive a Plague; David France, director (Sundance Selects)
Marina Abramović: The Artist is Present; Matthew Akers, director (HBO Documentary Films and Music Box Films)
Room 237; Rodney Ascher, director (IFC Midnight)
The Waiting Room; Peter Nicks, director (International Film Circuit)

Best Film Not Playing at a Theater Near You

Kid-Thing; David Zellner, director
An Oversimplification of Her Beauty; Terence Nance, director
Red Flag; Alex Karpovsky, director
Sun Don’t Shine; Amy Seimetz, director
Tiger Tail in Blue; Frank V. Ross, director

list looks boring as h*ck but hey i haven't actually seen any of those so i'll wait for morbz to fill me in

i HAVE somehow seen best exotic marigold hotel and it was awful

my favorites so far in no order

In the Family
The Kid with a Bike
The Deep Blue Sea
Damsels in Distress
Cosmopolis
Oslo, August 31st
Magic Mike

Bernie, gtfo.

I haven't seen any of those other Goth nominees aside from Moonrise Kingdom. Thure Lindhardt got mentioned for Keep the Lights On, tho. Not gonna sweat it this year while I'm recuperating.

In the Family is last year by NY standards.

watching KTLO this week.

y'all suck at giving me my opinions and making me feel better about only seeing two movies this year

can someone just say "they all sucked", i'll believe you

Living in Denmark, almost every worthwhile picture of 2012 will first be in cinemas in 2013. My list is pretty simple:

1. Moonrise Kingdom
2. The Dark Knight Rises

Actually, that's not true, Holy Motors premieres in a month. That will probably make my top three as well.

The five films nominated in IDA’s Best Feature category include The Central Park Five (Ken Burns, Sarah Burns and David McMahon), The Invisible War (Kirby Dick), The Queen of Versailles (Lauren Greenfield), Searching for Sugar Man (Malik Bendjelloul), and Women With Cows (Peter Gerdehag).

http://www.documentary.org/news/nominees-host-announced-28th-annual-ida-documentary-awards

I've seen only one of those: Searching for Sugar Man, which is kind of like a respectable, non-comedic variation on the Anvil! story.

European Film Awards nominations: http://www.thewrap.com/awards/column-post/european-film-awards-show-love-amour-63596

Didn't Carnage come out like three years ago?

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EUROPEAN FILM 2012:
AMOUR (Love) 
Austria/France/Germany, 127 min Written & directed by Michael Haneke
BARBARA 
Germany, 105 min Written & directed by Christian Petzold
INTOUCHABLES (Untouchable) 
France, 108 min Written & directed by Olivier Nakache & Eric Toledano
JAGTEN (The Hunt) 
Denmark, 111 min Directed by Thomas Vinterberg
SHAME 
UK, 96 min Directed by Steve McQueen

EUROPEAN DIRECTOR 2012:

Nuri Bilge Ceylan for BİR ZAMANLAR ANADOLU'DA (Once Upon a Time in Anatolia)

Michael Haneke for AMOUR (Love)

Steve McQueen for SHAME

Paolo & Vittorio Taviani for CESARE DEVE MORIRE (Caesar Must Die)
Thomas Vinterberg for JAGTEN (The Hunt)
 


EUROPEAN ACTRESS 2012:

Emilie Dequenne in A PERDRE LA RAISON (Our Children)

Nina Hoss in BARBARA

Emmanuelle Riva in AMOUR (Love)

Margarethe Tiesel in PARADIES: LIEBE (Paradise: Love)

Kate Winslet in CARNAGE
 


EUROPEAN ACTOR 2012:

François Cluzet & Omar Sy in INTOUCHABLES (Untouchable)

Michael Fassbender in SHAME

Mads Mikkelsen in JAGTEN (The Hunt)

Gary Oldman in TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY

Jean-Louis Trintignant in AMOUR (Love)



EUROPEAN SCREENWRITER 2012:

Michael Haneke for AMOUR (Love)

Tobias Lindholm & Thomas Vinterberg for JAGTEN (The Hunt)

Cristian Mungiu for DUPĂ DEALURI (Beyond the Hills)

Olivier Nakache & Eric Toledano for INTOUCHABLES (Untouchable)

Roman Polanski & Yasmina Reza for CARNAGE



CARLO DI PALMA EUROPEAN CINEMATOGRAPHER AWARD 2012:

Sean Bobbitt for SHAME

Bruno Delbonnel for FAUST

Darius Khondji for AMOUR (Love)
Gökhan Tiryaki for BİR ZAMANLAR ANADOLU'DA (Once Upon a Time in Anatolia)

Hoyte Van Hoytema for TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY



EUROPEAN EDITOR 2012:

Janus Billeskov Jansen & Anne Østerud for JAGTEN (The Hunt)

Roberto Perpignani for CESARE DEVE MORIRE (Caesar Must Die)

Joe Walker for SHAME



EUROPEAN PRODUCTION DESIGNER 2012: 

Maria Djurkovic for TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY

Niels Sejer for EN KONGELIG AFFÆRE (A Royal Affair)

Elena Zhukova for FAUST



EUROPEAN COMPOSER 2012:

Cyrille Aufort & Gabriel Yared for EN KONGELIG AFFÆRE (A Royal Affair)

François Couturier for IO SONO LI (Shun Li and the Poet)

George Fenton for THE ANGELS' SHARE

Alberto Iglesias for TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY

Carnage was out no later than Shame or Tinker Tailor.

since yall are talking foreign films, can anyone recommend any of these films showing at the EU showcase in DC? sorry for dropping a long list:

BARBARA
BECOMING TRAVIATA
BEYOND THE WALLS
BREAD AND CIRCUSES
CARMINA OR BLOW UP
COLOR OF THE CHAMELEON, THE
EVERYBODY IN OUR FAMILY
FIREHEART: THE LEGEND OF TADAS BLINDA
FISH N' CHIPS
FLICKER
GRABBERS
HEMEL
HYDE PARK ON HUDSON
IN THE SHADOW
JUST THE WIND
KOLKA COOL
L
LAST SENTENCE, THE
LIAR'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY, A – THE UNTRUE STORY OF MONTY PYTHON'S GRAHAM CHAPMAN
LINES OF WELLINGTON
LORE
MADE IN ASH
MINISTER, THE
MUSHROOMING
NAKED HARBOUR
NIGHT TOO YOUNG, A
NO REST FOR THE WICKED
OUR CHILDREN
PAINTING, THE
PARADISE: FAITH
PARADISE: LOVE
PATIENCE (AFTER SEBALD)
PIAZZA FONTANA: THE ITALIAN CONSPIRACY
QUARTET
REALITY
RENOIR
RUST AND BONE
SHADOW DANCER
SILENCE, THE
STELLA DAYS
SÜSKIND
TABU
THIS AIN'T CALIFORNIA
TIME OF MY LIFE
TO KILL A BEAVER
UNFAIR WORLD
WALL, THE
WRINKLES

You can cross Grabbers off your list, for a start.

have seen none, most interested in Tabu

Barbara is a semi-interesting sounding German film that got dece reviews when it opened in Britain a few weeks ago

Rust and Bone is a new romantic drama from Jacques Audiard, who made The Prophet

year-end cheat sheet, tho I'm skipping plenty

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/best-movies-of-2012-shortlist

Huh, I'm not actually doing all that bad this year so far.

Also hadn't realized the Nuri Bilge Ceylan was streaming. That explains the influx of new ratings on Letterboxd.

i've been v assiduous about not learning what Lboxd is.

i think it's basically yelp for movie geeks? (sorry)

Maybe a tad premature, but ... worst year for movies ever?

American, always w/ every succeeding year...

i dont think i saw enough movies this year :(

lol I saw 5 movies

I've seen exactly two 2012 movies so far--Chronicle (very good!) and Payback (meh)--and neither were on the list!

Don't go to the theatres much and end up catching most new releases a year or two after the fact. From this list, though, here's all that I definitely want to see (though I'm open to being convinced on others):

"Argo," directed by Ben Affleck (Theaters)
"How to Survive a Plague," directed by David France (Theaters -- also on VOD)
"Keep the Lights On," directed by Ira Sachs (Theaters)
"The Loneliest Planet," directed by Julia Loktev (Theaters -- also on VOD)
"Looper," directed by Rian Johnson (Theaters)
"The Master," directed by Paul Thomas Anderson (Theaters)
"Searching For Sugar Man," directed by Malik Bendjelloul (Theaters)
"Skyfall," directed by Sam Mendes (Theaters)
"Beasts of the Southern Wild," directed by Benh Zeitlin (Buy It, starting 12/4)
"Brave," directed by Mark Andrews, Brenda Chapman, and Steve Purcell (Buy It, starting 11/13)
"Moonrise Kingdom," directed by Wes Anderson (Rent It)
"Bernie," directed by Richard Linklater (Watch It)
"I Wish," directed by Hirokazu Kore-eda (Watch It)
"Oslo, August 31st," directed by Joachim Trier (Watch It)

get on Oslo ASAP imo

Bernie sucks.

get on Oslo ASAP imo

― Gukbe, Monday, November 12, 2012

It's rentable on iTunes, but I'm gonna give the liberry another month or so to get it before I go ahead and use some of my few remaining iTunes credit bucks on it.

get on Oslo ASAP imo

― Gukbe, Monday, November 12, 2012

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 12, 2012 7:28 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was oslo not 2011?

Not in the US.

I increasingly believe that diff films coming out in diff years in diff places is an excellent reason not to do any goddamn EOY lists.

Not so long as you're not OCD about overall tallies, imo.

you just hate fun, morbs

Admittedly, not living in NY takes some of the pressure off to keep release years kosher.

Look at the release pattern, if that word even applies, for the entirely "accessible" Argentine film Las Acacias. Where did this 'limited' US releaase take place? It only showed in NY at MoMA during the New Directors/New Films fest.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1754078/releaseinfo

^on tonight on film 4 iirc, for any UK ilxors

is it good

i like it

yes, there's a R2 DVD already and everything.

Hey guys. No reason to fret any more. EW's latest issue has a graphic that boils down best actor to Day-Lewis vs. Hawkes, actress to Lawrence vs. Watts, supporting actress to Hathaway vs. Hunt and picture to Argo vs. Life of Pi.

I guess only supporting actor has more than two candidates anymore.

close thread?

i'm so appalled that a mainstream magazine isn't dedicating at least 4 pages of detailed speculation two months ahead of the actual nomination announcement

Ooh wait! Not so fast!

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/11/16/oscar-race-prize-fighter-lincoln-argo-silver-linings-life-of-pi/

Argo is a sure-fire nominee, but Warner Bros. has to walk the line between maintaining its support and not wearing out its welcome. It’s easier for a film like The Artist to cling to front-runner status in a year when there isn’t a lot of major competition, but Argo will face an especially strong line-up of heavy-hitter challengers.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2n1rfq9.jpg

If there's one thing I remember about last year, it's definitely how there weren't any movies that were even remotely in the same league as The Artist. I don't think anything else was even nominated, come to think of it.

rgo is a sure-fire nominee, but Warner Bros. has to walk the line between maintaining its support and not wearing out its welcome. It’s easier for a film like The Artist to cling to front-runner status in a year when there isn’t a lot of major competition, but Argo will face an especially strong line-up of heavy-hitter challengers.

Most Number of Clichés in Fifty Words or Less

Can't wait to see Argo "walk the line."

Morbs' 2/5 rating ought to give it a "leg up" "in the heat" tho.

Maybe a victory for clear front-runner Day-Lewis will be considered recognition enough by voters, who have a lot of other choices for Best Picture.

A good-maybe-great movie's least interesting element getting its only awards traction? Sounds about right.

Less interesting than JGL? really?

separate Oscarshit read now plz

I thought that's what this thread was

It is.

there ya are

OSCARS 2013

JGL was also uninteresting, but mainly vestigial.

I changed my mind. There really can not be too many threads about year-end movie instant canonization times.

Someone start the NYFCC anticipation thread!

this is the 'long game' apprec thread for identifying current films that will be regarded as great after the fall of the American Empire.

Hah, no it's not.

There is no thread for doing that.

it will be my tireless mission to do that here

(obv joke, but I will boycott the Oscar thread)

Technically, I created "detrius" threads to talk about all the "detrius" that is meant to either inform or preemptively contradict the eventual Oscar results.

This is the thread where we discuss EW's take on Alan Arkin's Oscar hopes.

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Take it to the Hot Chip thread, sailor.

looks like a stroke, damn

the Oscars are no longer a climax as much as a postcoital shart

From this thread to you, Morbs:

http://mostlyfilm.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/gremlins.jpg

No real actual detrius until Nov. 27, when the Independent Spirit nominations are announced.

*backs slowly out of thread*

I really don't understand what I've done to merit Cloud Atlas in my mailbox.

s1ocki! You got my invitation! How nice of you to arrive!

How nice for s1ocki. How nice for everyone.

Honored members of ILX Detrius Society, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen: What is there for me to say? Everything wise and witty has long since been said - by minds more mature and talents far greater than mine. For me to thank you as equals would be presumptuous - I am an apprentice in detrius and have much to learn from you all. I can say only that I am proud and happy and that I regard this great thread not so much as an award for what I have achieved, but as a standard to hold against what I have yet to accomplish.

I will boycott the Oscar thread
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the oscar grouch

Still not 100 percent sure of what Morbs is going to use this thread for except to post a bunch of links to TL;DR articles.

for starters i'm going to google TL;DR

I wouldn't, it's really long.

Just got digital screener access for these. What's good?

How to Survive a Plague
The Loneliest Planet
Your Sister's Sister
On the Road
First Position
The Central Park Five
Sleepwalk With Me
The Flat
Ai Weiwei: Never Sorry

ai weiwei doc is only one ive seen. its pretty bleh

i liked your sister's sister

zing

oh no wait

carry on

Really want to see The Loneliest Planet. Might have to (gasp) buy a ticket!

opened here this weekend

is GGB nude in it?

Your Sister's Sister has one my very favourite scenes of the year, when Iris and Hannah are whispering to each other late at night in bed. So beautifully conceived and played.

Wasn't as enthused about the film as a whole.

Finally got my Magnolia/Magnet pack, along w/ a couple others - 28 in total, just from today (so far). Yikes.

nice to finally have a copy of Beyond the Blac Rainbow, wish I had a big ol' TV to watch it on.

*Black

Cahiers top 10:

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-cahiers-2012-and-sundances-2013

I missed Cosmopolis, no DVD r1 on the horizon, guess I'll have to wait til spring.

i really want to see that faust

I did see and like In Another Country the other night, prob not Top 10 material for me tho

Can't imagine Cosmopolis won't end up in my top 10 as it stands on Jan. 1, 2013. Of course, odds are I won't see most of Cahiers' top 10 list until many months later.

the lack of a Cosmopolis R1 release is strange.

also wonder what clever sods will cheat and put it and Holy Motors in the same spot on their list because they're both centred around limos and weird

Critic K3v1n B. L33 on FB sez: "As of now, both the best and worst films on my 2012 movie list are set in Iran. Both are about how filmmaking can save lives under threat of violence and oppression. Only one of them actually demonstrates exceptionally resourceful filmmaking in action. The other is just a recycling of 20th century "third world action movie" cliches, reeking of Hollywood's smugness over the power of its lies."

let me guess...

Argo pulling slightly ahead of Silver Linings in this year's snob critic pariah pigs blood dumpapalooza.

Argo Is Not a Film

I've decided to see Silver Linings. Maybe this week. Maybe Life of Pi as well.

Really would like to see Life of Pi stoned, as Dana Stevens recommends.

Argo Is Not a Film

― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Sunday, 25 November 2012 02:08 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a+

I don't know that my Best Actress vote right now wdn't go to the girl in Moonrise Kingdom, or Isabelle Huppert

Greta Gerwig in Damsels, atm, or (gah!) Meryl in Hope Springs.

yes on Garwig

I'd be happy for Jennifer Lawrence to get it for SLP.

Marion Cottilard in Rust and Bone.

although i've seen about 5 new movies this year so whatevs.

Don't see a thread for it here, but dear god is Compliance the single biggest missed opportunity of the year. It could've been one of the great real-life horror movies ever had they not made the decision to cut away to the smirking, pervert prank caller halfway through. Totally undermines the microscopic study of people fundamentally ignorant of their rights bending under presumed authority and instead turns it into a pretentious Phone Booth. (Am now seeing that a number of other reviewers have basically made that same argument.)

That said, Ann Dowd definitely gets swapped into Gerwig/Meryl's slot. The moment when she takes the employee's clothes out to her car without a qualm but pauses to make sure that she cleans up the fast food bags from the floor of the vehicle is just perfect.

Also, it was already an episode of SVU.

Unless Robin Williams was playing the prank caller in Mrs. Doubtfire getup, I'm not sure I want to watch.

It's certainly one of the drippier episodes in that it quite resembled a Robin Williams movie.

iirc http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2d/One_Hour_Photo_movie.jpg/220px-One_Hour_Photo_movie.jpg

compliance was directed by homestar runner lol what

Holy crap! Turns out it was actually the latest installment of Teen Girl Squad!

I totally support Gerwig, though she was even better in Frances Ha.

The Loneliest Planet was an arch bore.

what are these SLOTS of which you speak? Simon, we go for the best here, not making allowances for Dead Ernest Borgnine Appeal.

FB update of the year:

Ugh! Jared Leto just won a Gotham!!!!!!

http://www.hitfix.com/awards-campaign/live-blogging-the-2012-gotham-awards

Mike Birbiglia comes out as tonight's host. I honestly have no idea who he is. Maybe I'll recognize him in a bit. Not a good sign.

hey I'm not the only one who got snow for the YT feed

omg, Amy Adams' encomium to D.O.R. Knock the feed off again.

What did you think of Day Night Day Night, Alfred?

I'll let you know tomorrow.

Ditto me re: Planet

Gotham Awards

Film: Moonrise Kingdom
Ensemble: Your Sister's Sister
Breakthrough Actor: Emayatzy Corinealdi, Middle of Nowhere
Breakthrough Director: Benh Zeitlin, Beasts of the Southern Wild
Documentary: How to Survive a Plague
Best Film Not Playing At a Theater Near You: An Oversimplification of Her Beauty
Gotham Audience Award: Artifact (i.e. Leto)
Calvin Klein "Live the Dream" grant: Stacie Passon for her upcoming film Concussion

Independent Spirit nominations are tomorrow.

Jesus, Now, Forager was Gotham-nominated for director?!

i have never even heard of the "gotham awards" what is that

Dark Knight Rises not getting anything is like the ultimate snub there

lol

Yeah, that ^^^^

http://www.hitfix.com/awards-campaign/2013-independent-spirit-awards-nominations-5-things-to-look-for

The limit for an indie budget is supposed to be $20 million according to the Spirit Awards rules (although it's at the committee's discretion).

Variety: Movies still too damn long

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118062671

The data also shows that length is more of a turn-off for younger moviegoers. That may be a silver lining (both puns intended) for this year's crop of Oscar wannabes, every single one of which eclipses two hours -- except "Argo," which uses each of its 120 minutes to good effect.

stfu Variety

no one has really figured out what the Gothams are

Alfred, I ended up being as into Loneliest Planet as I was into Day Night Day Night. I'm a soft touch when it comes to clinical studies of human behavior that seem directed by someone not human.

isn't Day Night Day Night 6 years old? I think I saw it but can't be sure.

The Gothams seem like the East Coast version of the Indie Spirits -- but I have no idea what the eligibility requirements are.

Neither GGB and the chick were human exactly.

No, they were hetero.

I have no idea what the eligibility requirements are

Apparently, budgets under $20M aren't one of them.

Star Wars '77 cost $10M

And looks it today.

LOL Magic Mike is an indie.

(In order that Matty McC could be nominated for both lead and supporting, I guess.)

it was pretty low-budget! and WB did not produce it.

http://www.indiewire.com/article/2013-spirit-award-nominations-being-announced-in-progress

BEST FEATURE FILM
Beasts of the Southern Wild
Bernie
Keep the Lights On
Moonrise Kingdom
Silver Linings Playbook

Swap Julia Loktev in for Richard Linklater in Best Director

BEST DOCUMENTARY
How to Survive a Plague
Marina Abramović: The Artist is Present
The Central Park Five
The Invisible War
The Waiting Room

BEST INTERNATIONAL FILM
Amour
Once Upon A Time in Anatolia
Rust And Bone
Sister
War Witch

BEST FEMALE LEAD
Linda Cardellini, Return
Emayatzy Corinealdi, Middle of Nowhere
Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
Quvenzhané Wallis, Beasts of the Southern Wild
Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Smashed

BEST MALE LEAD
Jack Black, Bernie
Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook
John Hawkes, The Sessions
Thure Lindhardt, Keep the Lights On
Matthew McConaughey, Killer Joe
Wendell Pierce, Four

BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE
Rosemarie DeWitt, Your Sister’s Sister
Ann Dowd, Compliance
Helen Hunt, The Sessions
Brit Marling, Sound of My Voice
Lorraine Toussaint, Middle of Nowhere

BEST SUPPORTING MALE
Matthew McConaughey, Magic Mike
David Oyelowo, Middle of Nowhere
Michael Péna, End of Watch
Sam Rockwell, Seven Psychopaths
Bruce Willis, Moonrise Kingdom

Feel like a Spirit nod was inevitable for Dowd, but happy to see it nonetheless.

Willis over Ed Norton in Moonrise is incorrect.

I missed the brief NY run of Middle of Nowhere, hope they get to mailing.

Willis is great in MK.

Silver Linings christ

Yeah, I would pick Willis over Norton (and both well over Murray).

Beasts of the Southern Wild meant nothing to me.

Willis is the only person I remember from MK.

Detrius brings out the utter nihilist in you, huh.

detrius brings out the Stalinist in me.

other actresses to ponder at year-end:

Rachel Weisz, The Deep Blue Sea
Carlen Altman, The Colr Wheel

Weisz definitely. The Deep Blue Sea looks like it might get stepped on (too early in the year?)

and
Ariane Lebed, Attenberg

I just don't think T.Davies is up-to-date enough for the cool kids, or fusty enough for the oldsters (sex and suicide, etc).

Weisz would probably get my vote. Winstead was good too.

They've sent screeners, so if it gets snubbed, it's critics' fault. (Or, you know, the movie's.)

Hopefully everyone gets over Krazy Katniss as frontrunner by default.

Intrigued by Wendell Pierce nod. Anyone seen that one?

No, but he had an odd cameo in Breaking Dawn, Part 2.

I imagine Riva and Trintignant will factor in if any critics prizes go to Amour.... fascinating considering their most noted career films came over 50 years ago. (I guess you could argue for The Conformist over Marienbad)

kinda feel it's too soon for me to try Killer Joe as a hide-yr-eyes film. (havent quite gotten over The Killer Inside Me 2 years ago)

what's the fuckin' deal with Bernie? it just doesn't work.

Think the gravy train ends for Bernie pretty soon here.

The Guffman-esque aspect of Bernie made me want to like it, and I do think Black's performance is good, but I'm not sure it really adds up to much.

Black's performance sunk it for me; couldn't buy the reality of the situation.

The Spirit shoestring category...

The John Cassavetes Award goes to a movie made for under $500,000. This year’s nominees are:

Sean Baker’s Starlet.
Laura Colella’s Breakfast with Curtis.
Ava DuVernay’s Middle of Nowhere.
Aurora Guerrero’s Mosquita y Mari.
Alex Ross Perry’s The Color Wheel.

variety otm

if a movie is over 2 hours you have to earn every fucking extra minute

for comedies, that goes after 90 minutes

every movie these days is so fucking unnecessarily long... remember judd apatow's 2.5 hour movie FUNNY PEOPLE... jesus christ

some are sure, but DON'T go to fucking Apatowshit

anticomedy bias v disappointing in you, grasshopper.

Black's performance sunk it for me; couldn't buy the reality of the situation.

Completely agree. He was more muted and refined than usual but he was still himself. I could get past it.

http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/wp-content/x/_MadMadWorld.jpg

pish tosh. IaMMMMW is not a true-crime black comedy, Smiler.

(also, JB standing outside the character in a "Look, he's gay" winky way bothered me)

(was in ref to 90-minute comedy limit ... which for the record I mostly agree with)

I don't even know what Bernie was about when watching it – and I like Linklater.

gotcha xp

it's a decent general rule which can be broken if there's a reason.

(Moonrise Kingdom is 94m, close enough)

I meant that I couldn't get past it. Stupid lazy typing.

Maclaine was great though. Also I liked the talking head interviews. I wish it had just been a documentary, actually.

i really liked bernie

also i really dont think there's any arguing that the general tend towards longness in mainstream fare is a terrible thing

There's like a weird dead zone for me between 105 minutes and 165 minutes. Less than that is admirably spry, more than that is probably using its duration as a formal device. In the middle is so often meh.

I mean, all movies should really be either 450 minutes or 12 seconds long.

we should just pick a length and make every movie conform to it, it'll probably spark more creativity than letting any old length happen

Lincoln shoulda been four hours, Silver Linings Playbook four milliseconds (i.e. the length of time we see a flash of Coopflesh).

The One Obstructions

on a related note, the Bigelow is apparently 160 mins w/ "around 120 speaking parts."

interesting, that means 40 minutes will be dialogue-free

seems like a good move under the circumstances; seeing it Thurs night.

Talking and waterboarding don't generally mix

carpetbagger:

"Here, a list of the things we learned at our fourth consecutive Gothams, Part 1:

Jared Leto is an award-winning documentary filmmaker. Under the pseudonym Bartholomew Cubbins, Mr. Leto, the actor and frontman of the band Thirty Seconds to Mars, made “Artifact,” the story of the group fighting to get out of its contract with the record label, EMI, which sued it for $30 million. The suit was later settled and the band made a concept album, “This Is War.” The film had its premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival in September and picked up the audience award at the Gothams. In his acceptance speech, Mr. Leto, sporting a ponytail and nail polish, thanked his mother, for teaching him how to lead a creative life.

Jared Leto has a lot of devoted Twitter fans. Upon learning of his win online, many replied that they were in tears, especially at his thanking of his mom. Mr. Leto and his date were seated at the Bagger’s table; they did not return after he won.

freakiiing▲Inna@Breathing_30STM
@JaredLeto You brought me to tears with all ur tweets. Jared, how can you be such a wonderful person? Thank you for e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.
25 Nov 12

Jared Leto is starving himself – apparently for a role in “Dallas Buyers Club” with Matthew McConaughey, about the first users of the AIDS drug AZT – and yet still has a sense of humor

“I haven’t eaten in 21 days,” he told Mr. Birbiglia, after his opening monologue, “and that made me laugh.”"

lol about that leto movie, i remember reading the description of it at tiff and thinkng it should be called 'you should have such problems'

Criticwire adds 20 more movies to their must-see list for 2012:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/criticwires-updated-year-end-cheat-sheet

"Amour," directed by Michael Haneke (Theaters -- starting 12/19)*
"The Central Park Five," directed by Ken Burns, Sarah Burns, and David McMahon (Theaters)*
"Chasing Ice," directed by Jeff Orlowski (Theaters)*
"Life of Pi," directed by Ang Lee (Theaters)*
"Rust and Bone," directed by Jacques Audiard (Theaters)*
"Marina Abramovic: The Artist is Present," directed by Matthew Akers (Buy It)*
"Chronicle," directed by Josh Trank (Buy It)*
"Cloud Atlas," directed by the Wachowskis and Tom Tykwer (Theaters)*
"The Color Wheel," directed by Alex Ross Perry (Rent It)*
"Cosmopolis," directed by David Cronenberg (Rent It, starting 12/18)*
"The Dark Knight Rises," directed by Christopher Nolan (Rent It, starting 12/4)*
"4:44 Last Day on Earth," directed by Abel Ferrara (Buy It)*
"Gayby," directed by Jonathan Lisecki (Rent It, starting 12/4)*
"Killer Joe," directed by William Friedkin (Rent It, starting 12/21)*
"Return," directed by Liza Johnson (Rent It)*
"Ruby Sparks," directed by Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris (Rent It)*
"Smashed," directed by James Ponsoldt (Theaters)*
"Starlet," directed by Sean Baker (Theaters)*
"Take This Waltz," directed by Sarah Polley (Rent It)*
"Planet of Snail," directed by Seungjun Yi*

glad to see Croney.

Middle of Nowhere back playing in NYC on Friday

how could anyone want to go see, let alone read, Life of Pi

On Netflix Watch Instantly
"The American Scream," directed by Michael Stephenson (Watch It)
"Attenberg," directed by Athina Rachel Tsangari (Watch It)
"Bernie," directed by Richard Linklater (Watch It)
"Beyond the Black Rainbow," directed by Panos Cosmatos (Watch It)
"Bullhead," directed by Michael R. Roskam (Watch It)
"China Heavyweight," directed by Yung Chang (Watch It)
"Declaration of War," directed by Valerie Donzelli (Watch It)
"The Deep Blue Sea," directed by Terence Davies (Watch It)
"Elena," directed by Andrey Zvyagintsev (Watch It)
"Gerhard Richter Painting," directed by Corinna Belz (Watch It)
"Goodbye, First Love," directed by Mia Hansen-Løve (Watch It)
"The Grey," directed by Joe Carnahan (Watch It)
"Haywire," directed by Steven Soderbergh (Watch It)
"Indie Game: The Movie," directed by Lisanne Pajot and James Swirsky (Watch It)
"The Invisible War," directed by Kirby Dick (Watch It)
"I Wish," directed by Hirokazu Kore-eda (Watch It)
"Jiro Dreams of Sushi," directed by David Gelb (Watch It)
"Monsieur Lazhar," directed by Philippe Falardeau (Watch It)
"Once Upon a Time in Anatolia," directed by Nuri Bilge Ceylan (Watch It)
"Oslo, August 31st," directed by Joachim Trier (Watch It)
"The Pruit-Igoe Myth," directed by Chad Freidrichs (Watch it)
"Sound of Noise," directed by Ola Simonsson and Johannes Stjärne Nilsson (Watch It)
"The Turin Horse," directed by Bela Tarr (Watch It)

which of these should i watch after deep blue sea, turin horse and oslo?

Once Upon a Time in Anatolia, The Grey, and Attenberg. Of those of these that I've seen, that is.

I liked The Grey and Beyond the Black Rainbow.

Fuck The Turin Horse.

My #1 of the year so far.

I'd have been much more impressed with a movie about life as tedium that *wasn't* so fucking tedious. (And didactic.)

But I actually saw it at Telluride in '10 so it doesn't get to be the worst movie of 2011 for me

"Goodbye, First Love" = ah, young amour; so classy, so boring.

Monsieur Lazhar = never boring but underwritten

yeah, better than it needs to be, still not great.

worth spending a twelfth of a day watching?

Anyone's thoughts on The Loneliest Planet?

Anyone seen Rust and Bone yet? So cheesy and sentimental it's ridiculous. Couldn't believe it.

someone I respect used the word "stupid."

Hyde Park on Hudson just made me feel sorry for Bill Murray the entire time.

I mean, I know there's a doilied old biddy audience out there for these stuffy, cursivey movies. But Murray seems to be grimacing his way through it.

Anyone's thoughts on The Loneliest Planet?

A few thoughts here.

But Murray seems to be grimacing his way through it.

You try being a cripple in that wicker chair.

I really dug Loneliest Planet, maybe only slightly less than DNDN. Loktev always gets great spatial depth with her images.

DNDN did get better after the first thirty minutes.

Also am a huge sucker for schematically bifurcated movies.

anybody see Young and Wild?

i love long movies.

i didn't find rust and bone cheesy or sentimental.

in fact thought it quite successfully resisted being either of those things.

Wow. Really? What about the scene where Ali is getting pulverised in the fight, all is lost and everything goes into slo-mo. But then catching sight of brave Stephanie wobbling towards him on her prosthetic legs is suddenly enough to rally him into fighting back and he wins! And the bit where one shag is enough to knock the trauma and depression out of Stephanie and she sticks on Katy Perry and she's back doing her whale training moves/dance, just like that!
And the ending, where we're suddenly in a snowy location, the only time we're away from the film's primary setting, seemingly just to have a shamelessly Big Emotional denouement. The film has the naturalistic look and feel of your typical indie film, and is very understated, but then it lapses into moments of pure melodrama in order to pull on your heartstrings.

Zero Dark Thirty: mysteriously missing UBL's "fava beans and a nice chianti" speech.

Sight & Sound's best of 2012 can be seen here: http://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/image/ss-2013-01-09-2012-round-up.jpg

01. The Master
02. Tabu
03. Amour
04. Holy Motors
05. (tie) Beasts of the Southern Wild
05. (tie) Berberian Sound Studio
07. Moonrise Kingdom
08. (tie) Beyond the Hills
08. (tie) Cosmopolis
08. (tie) Once Upon a Time in Anatolia
08. (tie) This is Not a Film

BBS! nice.

er, wrong acronym. I meant Berberian. probably the only good new genre-y thing I saw this year.

it wasnt that good.

i mean, it was an ok lil exercise but it really should have been a short or something

kind of a shitty list tbh

I'll take BSS over at least 3/10 of that list.

also all those ties make it look like only 5 people voted

I had to assume that was the case.

Hoping that the NYFCC can manage to restrain themselves from voting The Master for best film, but now watch them pick Silver Linings Playbook instead.

fearing The Silence of bin Laden

Do they catch Bin Laden tucking, applying lipliner and prancing in front of a camcorder to Q Lazzarus?

in yr remake i'm sure.

i realize Sicinski won't be done w/ this for 2 months, but Let the Bullets Fly is waiting for me at home.

http://academichack.net/mewlingshawarma.htm

is moonrise kingdom really that good? it keeps sticking out on these lists

meaning it is the only movie i'd heard of on that list

My favorite US and/or multiplex film so far.

Almayer's Folly and Elena both worth looking for, tho I found them difficult and not-quite-all-that, respectively.

I don't love it quite as much as I did Mr. Fox, but close enough.

the villainous kid who did the Steve McQueen hommage was tops.

Haneke takes Euros

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/amour-sweeps-2012-european-film-awards-67446

and in Artforum, John Waters diggin' Davies, Seidl, and Compliance.

http://www.artforum.com/inprint/id=37454

loved The Turin Horse.

kind of a shitty list tbh

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Friday, 30 November 2012 14:30 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^
the master, really

David E. shills big time for ZDT in his top 10 (which slotted too early for him to catch Tarantino, LotR Redux, etc.):

http://www.vulture.com/2012/11/david-edelstein-top-ten-movies.html

It also borders on the politically and morally reprehensible.

It lives on the border quite comfortably (and comfortingly for most I expect).

relieved to see The Deep Blue Sea and Oslo, August 31st on his list.

I like them both -- and they're getting overrated.

and you're getting Armond.

Um, balls? The Louis Malle version of Oslo (The Fire Within) from the '60s is the masterpiece.

http://www.criterion.com/films/540-the-fire-within

I know it well but TFW's superiority doesn't affect my enjoyment of this one.

anyway these two are the kind of modest things that should dominate top tens instead of Oscaryums.

...but DE's top 3 are all trophy horses.

I made my master list in progress last night, I've only seen 66 new films. Can probably get to 90.

Hovering around 90 right now. Should be able to top 100 by year's end no sweat.

Was going to balk over Amour being tagged a "trophy horse," but I guess at this point, it's leading the pack in accolades (just the earlier-in-the-year, non-detriusy ones).

plus the Euros

i think the Wells blog quoted some Hollywood type that it's "On Golden Pond directed by Hitler."

That's less Oscar bait and more John Waters bait.

I'll change my tune if it manages a NYFCC win for picture (not just foreign) this morning.

where are the pajama people, ie Natl Board of Review?

Guess they overextended their nap and aren't first out of the gate this year.

Goes without saying this will likely be a vital twitter feed this morning: https://twitter.com/ArmondWhite

Evidently a for real ballot? http://kylesmithonline.com/?p=9947

Let the molasses-drip rollout begin:

http://www.nyfcc.com/awards/

Best First Feature: How To Survive a Plague

(Docs didn't use to be eligible for this category, but the rules have changed.)

I watched Plague Friday night, and it is a more narratively focused (and conventional) doc than Jim Hubbard's United in Anger: A History of ACT UP, which I saw the next day at MoMA (it uses much of the same archival footage).

@gemko
I admittedly didn't see the entire film, but what I did see in no way suggested talent beyond simple assemblage.

@gemko
To put it another way, I can't imagine somebody else's film on the same subject being radically different.

who the f is that?

(MD'A)

Everyone sez this is basically a "fuck you" to Beasts, but now watch that one win best screenplay or something.

Kyle Smith ballot shows that you could fake your way through these votes by seeing 8 hyped films a year.

(Meanwhile in who cares news: http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/2012-annie-award-nominations/)

Now this is getting weird.

Best Nonfiction Film: The Central Park Five

Sicinski says "The current parallel doc, UNITED IN ANGER, based on clips I've seen, is hyper-conventional. PLAGUE shows what it's like to act and organize from inside panic and confusion, to be *on* the shifting terrain."

"hyper" is a bit much. It does point out the obvious that in addition to intense and panic-stricken, ACT UP meetings were cruisy.

and I expected this:

Best Non-Fiction Film (Documentary): "The Central Park Five"

I mean, yeah, there's no Tree of Life out there this year to decimate all comers, but ... ?

Best Cinematography: Greig Fraser, Zero Dark Thirty

Slant Magazine ‏@Slant_Magazine
Zero Dark Thirty (@ZeroDarkThirty) will sweep at #NYFCC, then the Oscars. Trust us.

did he work for the Romney campaign

Something's gotta break the logjam at the top of that category, and I doubt it's going to be Les Miz.

yeah, I see which Obama film they're going for.

Dem crix are embracing their gung ho side at last

Best. Election. Year. Ever.

You deserve it. this is how democracy dies, etc

Imagine if the studio had gotten its way and called ZDT For God and Country.

God, I hate Sasha Stone, but I can't stop following her on Twitter b/c she's a Voice in the Conversation.

I can't wait to waterboard you, Morbs.

get in line

SS's desperate attempts to assign some form of Nate Silver-like patternism on showbiz awards is often funny. More often sad.

at least this election that doesn't change a thing doesn't cost $6B.

The Hobbit should be so frugal.

Poor Ann Dowd.

Best Supporting Actress: Sally Field, Lincoln

coming up, Prettiest Interrogator

@gemko
Aaaaaaaaand now I want to cull the NYFCC roster with a scythe, as usual.

is Nathaniel of The Film Experience hitting "refresh" repeatedly

He's not alone.

@derekabowman
The last time I used the refresh button this much was Election Day. Ok, I'm using it more today #nyfcc

@AwardsDaily
I'm fairly sure that the last time supporting actress and picture matched it was Dianne WiestHANNAH AND HER SISTERS. #NYFCC

I mean jesus.

SS's desperate attempts to assign some form of Nate Silver-like patternism on showbiz awards is often funny. More often sad.

This is the worst. I got into a heated e-mail exchange a couple of years ago with Jaymc's Film-Critic Friend b/c he was trying to make Oscar predix based on how often various guild/crix nominations matched up with Oscar noms. Like, because on average, 3/5 of the BFCA's best director nominees also get nominated for Oscars, then we can assume that the average will hold as an exact tried-and-true percentage from year to year, and the only challenge is to figure out which 2 BFCA nominees will be left in the dust by AMPAS. This is beyond dumb -- the sample is too small and the variables are too great to extrapolate anything meaningful from these historical comparisons.

Sorry, thread. This just happens to be the one day a year I pay any attention to Twitter.

Aww, snap.

Best Supporting Actor: Matthew McConaughey for Bernie and Magic Mike

(That snap was the sound of his thong coming off.)

there's such a thing as comedy?

will make the dinner lively

xxps, yeah jaymc, I subscribe to my Slant compadre's theory that the only tried and true way of predicting these things is to just watch the movies and know the AMPAS.

Tho that's certainly led us wrong any number of times. Statistically no more often than SS.

Frankenweenie winning animated film worth it for all the whining about Paranorman getting snubbed.

Best Foreign Language Film: Amour

Guess that means top award is going Lincoln or ZDT.

Whoa.

Best Actress: Rachel Weisz, The Deep Blue Sea

Amazing.

Relevant tweet:

@AwardsDaily
Wow, that's out of left field, Rachel Weisz for Deep Blue Sea (a movie I could not sit through) for Best Actress #nyfcc

so sorry Jennifer Lawrence couldn't sit on his face

excellent!

Dept. of regularly scheduled programming:

Best Actor: Daniel Day-Lewis, Lincoln

(His 5th NYFCC award.)

Wow @ 5th. (One supporting, I see.)

Most overall zzzzzz history of all four acting categories? Discuss: http://www.nyfcc.com/awards/?cat=2

I like his supporting perf (Laundrette) more than any of the other four that got him wins.

Oof, Ed's tweet is looking more and more unfortunate.

Best Screenplay: Tony Kushner, Lincoln

@MarkHarrisNYC
We interrupt this Twitterfeed to say WOOOOHOOOO!!!!!

Aw.

Such is the weirdness of awards season that I'm sort of "meh" about a movie I genuinely like a whole lot sweeping the NYFCC.

happy with three of the four acting winners (DDL's not one of them).

Bigelow wins director.

for Point Break?!?

LOL, NYFCC's embargo against awarding Spielberg for his direction continues.

Guess Ed was right. Lesson learned.

Best Picture: Zero Dark Thirty

For reference:

Best Picture
Zero Dark Thirty

Best Director
Kathryn Bigelow, ZERO DARK THIRTY

Best Screenplay
Tony Kushner, LINCOLN

Best Actress
Rachel Weisz, THE DEEP BLUE SEA

Best Actor
Daniel Day-Lewis, LINCOLN

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Field, LINCOLN

Best Supporting Actor
Matthew McConaughey, BERNIE, MAGIC MIKE

Best Cinematographer
Greig Fraser, ZERO DARK THIRTY

Best Animated Film
Frankenweenie

Best Non-Fiction Film (Documentary)
The Central Park Five

Best Foreign Film
Amour

Best First Film
David France, HOW TO SURVIVE A PLAGUE

This is what happens when you nominate everything. Laura Linney in Hyde Park on Hudson.

http://www.indiewire.com/article/complete-list-of-2012-satellite-award-nominations

Guess Ed was right.

That's not a sweep. Weisz over Chastain, uh, fuckyeah.

Most overall zzzzzz history of all four acting categories?

Snored through McC, huh, and Weisz too lifelike? Didn't look too hard but 2006 was Forest Whitaker, Helen Mirren, Jackie Earle Haley, Jennifer Hudson. FW was kinda embarrassing, skipped the other 3.

No, I meant best lead actor category has had the most boringest history overall with the NYFCC. Or at least the one with the least adventurous choices.

Have any of the ILX film hivemind seen The Sessions? It has a lot of positive reviews but it seems like such dire oscarbait.

M@rk H@rris is on a crusade against the word Oscarbait this year. But, yes, The Sessions is Oscarbait. Not even so much "mature" about its sexual content as it is just plain open/explicit. (Also, seems like the dude had more women at his side than Guido Anselmi.)

I dunno Eric, NYFCC's Best Actors probably come out ahead of AAs if you go thru the last 30 years (Thewlis, Newman for NF, Irons for DR, Steve Martin).

Both can still be true.

The New York Critics finished the '90s with an excellent run: Fonda in Ulee's Gold, Nolte in Affliction, and Farnsworth in The Straight Story. (Don't remember Fonda as well as the other two.)

sure.

I think I will nominate jafar Panahi for best actor, tho he doesn't show up here:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/the-criticwire-survey-the-best-performances-of-the-year#

AND cosign:

Scott Nye, Rail of Tomorrow:

"While there have probably been richer, deeper performances, I'm going to use this space to give a shout-out to Yoo Jun-sang in Hong Sang-soo's 'In Another Country.' Yoo takes a role that's of little consequence in an almost pointedly inconsequential film and fills every moment onscreen with a manner of life and vitality I haven't seen in any other performance this year. Just seeing him walk or run is vastly entertaining, nevermind the exuberant will to please everyone with whom he interacts. It's rare to find a performer, especially these days, who can entertain just by appearing onscreen, but Yoo achieves that marvelously."

Has anyone ever won an award for two separate roles like McConaughey? I guess either must have received an equal number of votes, but why bother?

Actors are often nominated for multiple roles.

Yes, that's clear, but has anyone ever one for both?

er, won

yes

throwing Bernie in there is BS, the role and the perf were too much, like everything except the townspeople.

Wow. Really? What about the scene where Ali is getting pulverised in the fight, all is lost and everything goes into slo-mo. But then catching sight of brave Stephanie wobbling towards him on her prosthetic legs is suddenly enough to rally him into fighting back and he wins! And the bit where one shag is enough to knock the trauma and depression out of Stephanie and she sticks on Katy Perry and she's back doing her whale training moves/dance, just like that!
And the ending, where we're suddenly in a snowy location, the only time we're away from the film's primary setting, seemingly just to have a shamelessly Big Emotional denouement. The film has the naturalistic look and feel of your typical indie film, and is very understated, but then it lapses into moments of pure melodrama in order to pull on your heartstrings.

― DavidM, Friday, November 30, 2012 9:33 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

really! (and sorry for the delay replying) while i do recognise your descriptions of the scenes you had a problem with they just didn't play out that way, for me. melodrama? yes but life can play that way. particularly the scene after she's had sex again and dances in her chair along to "fireworks" i found that moving and real, especially following on from the amputation and depression/slow recovery (and i can vividly imagine of the scenery chewing performances and american or english actress would have used here, cotillard was incredibly subtle). i've been down often enough to know that something can flip you into a kind of ecstatic state at your lowest point. it's not logical but it is real and that scene seemed very real and believable to me. and honestly not sentimental.

Bernie was a way to atone for the apostasy of voting for a pleasure as vulgar as Magic Mike.

although i think the last part of the film has structural problems and lacks the punch it could have because cotillard is absent. the last part suffers from a lack of melodrama imo.

xpost to myself.

Actors are often nominated for multiple roles.

If you're talking about the Academy Awards, you can get separate nominations--e.g., Greta Garbo twice for Best Actress in 1930. (It's always one lead + one supporting nowadays.) If you mean the New York Critics, it looks like they periodically give someone one award for multiple roles--e.g., Jack Nicholson in '87 for Broadcast News, Ironweed, and The Witches of Eastwick, or Hope Davis in 2003.

Weirdest example: Barry Fitzgerald was nominated for both Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor for Going My Way.

I was referring to critics' awards

I think the Academy changed its rules to avoid a Fitzgerald situation (but not for director, e.g. Soderbergh in 2000).

The NYFCC did it last year w/ Chastain for 3 films, and twice with supporting actor in the '80s.

1988 Dean Stockwell Married to the Mob; Tucker: The Man and His Dream

1986 Daniel Day-LewisMy Beautiful Laundrette; A Room with a View

several best actresses, the last being Hope Davis

Hoberman on the 5-hour marathon:

An early favorite for Best Director, Paul Thomas Anderson was overwhelmed by Kathryn Bigelow on the second ballot, with Ben Affleck (“Argo”) finishing a distant third. (Strikingly, Steven Spielberg, who failed to get a single first ballot votes, was never in contention.) By this time, it was evident that “Zero Dark Thirty” would run the table and, indeed, “The Master” finished third for Best Picture behind “Argo,” although it took three ballots for the obviously exhausted voters to decide the winner.

http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2012/12/03/life-in-wartime-nyfcc-garlands-zero-dark-thirty-lincoln/

if every line in zero dark 30 is delivered like it is in the trailer this could be the most ridiculous movie since BOOM.

if bigelow wasn't pissing herself with laughter while she filmed Mark Strong and his big fake American accent idk wtf she was doing. probably creaming herself over what an important artist she is.

accent sounded fine to me...

Sorry, betraying my ignorance about NYFCC awards there. xposts

no, it's mostly competent at worst, insidious political arc aside. Revenge for the MoveOn set. xxxp

he sounds ridiculous.

he sounds fine... Mate.

if every line in zero dark 30 is delivered like it is in the trailer this could be the most ridiculous movie since BOOM.

I can't even tell if this is a compliment.

Then again, I can't imagine Rust & Bone being anything other than bad.

Daniel Day Lewis (“Lincoln”), possibly the most feted actor in NYFCC history, led on every ballot but still required three rounds of voting to best the closely bunched trio of Jack Black (“Bernie”), Joaquin Phoenix (“The Master”), and Denis Lavant (“Holy Motors”).

There, in a nutshell, is the entire history of NYFCC's best actor award.

bloody hell This is Not a Film.

Silver Linings christ

― Gukbe, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:51 (1 week ago)

bloody hell This is Not a Film.

― Gukbe, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 06:53 (1 hour ago)

I never know if these are endorsements or dismissals, Gukbe.

if the offensive statement is at the end, it is a dismissal. if it is before, it is an endorsement.

A-ha!

http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/12/03/15-documentary-features-advance-in-oscar-race/

The year’s best documentaries – Ken Burns, The Central Park Five doc, Queen of Versailles, Samsara, Jiro Dreams of Sushi, and West of Memphis shut out of the Oscar race. That is mind-blowing. The new rules were supposed to stop this kind of assfuckery from happening. I remain astounded. Then again, they always have their weird ways of doing things and can’t be predicted. They seem to always resent it when others try to predict what they will or won’t do. This, I have to say, is a NEW LOW. It’s a terrible thing, too, to have the Central Park Five win the New York Film Critics the same day AMPAS releases its 15 finalists

SS also gets amusingly butthurt when the grand narrative of "awards = quality" doesn't fall into place.

First supercut out of the gate (?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8uJC1trFA

Amy Taubin's top 10 (Cosmopolis, one of her top 10 of all time in this year's S&S poll, is predictably #1) is here.

oh dear

she rotates the latest Croney in every decade w/ S&S

Makes as much sense as any other method.

Corliss. interesting for Dragon and Solondz:

http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/12/04/richard-corliss-top-ten-of-the-year/

I respect Amy Taubin, but calling Cosmopolis "a mirror reflection of the way we live now" strikes me as swallowing whole exactly what the filmmaker wants you to think. Maybe I'm just not having enough sex in limousines, I don't know.

I had a prostate exam in a Navigator so I could see where he was going but you're right it was kind of romanticized.

I suppose you both think getting your prostate examined should be clinical.

Corliss's list takes a hard right turn between slots 6 and 5.

I had a prostate exam in a Navigator so I could see where he was going but you're right it was kind of romanticized.

only on the ILE gay thread.

not sure, not having seen TDKR, but ZDT is "right" enough

xp

Then again, I can't imagine Rust & Bone being anything other than bad.

― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:12 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark

neither did i, i was kinda forced to see it but i liked it a lot. i'm not making any great claims for it though. I thought un prophet was bad and boring fwiw.

xpost didn't mean that kind of right

Since I have no intention of watching the screener, I'm just going to call The Impossible's trailer the year's worst film.

Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter is definitely the worst. Take my word for it

Playing for Keeps is right down there.

Among reasonably well-reviewed movies, Bully is the pits.

got Hyde Park On Hudson and Promised Land in this morning. Is it just me or is there an exceptional overflow of middlebrow pap this year?

just in the mailbox mebbe

got those + Turin Horse lol

Seriously, I have received next to nothing for over a week now. Going to have to grill FedEx.

Not that I *want* a copy of Hyde Park, per se.

I guess we're going to have a sweep every year now.

National Board of Review

Best Film: "Zero Dark Thirty"
Best Director: Kathryn Bigelow, "Zero Dark Thirty"
Best Actor: Bradley Cooper, "Silver Linings Playbook" (Um, OK.)
Best Actress: Jessica Chastain, "Zero Dark Thirty"
Best Supporting Actor: Leonardo DiCaprio, "Django Unchained"
Best Supporting Actress: Ann Dowd, "Compliance"
Best Adapted Screenplay: "Silver Linings Playbook"
Best Original Screenplay: "Looper"
Best Animated Feature: "Wreck-It Ralph"
Breakthrough Actor: Tom Holland, "The Impossible"
Breakthrough Actress: Quvenzhané Wallis, "Beasts of the Southern Wild"
Best Directorial Debut: Benh Zeitlin, "Beasts of the Southern Wild"
Best Foreign Language Film: "Amour"
Best Documentary: "Searching for Sugar Man"
Best Ensemble: "Les Miserables"
Spotlight Award: John Goodman ("Argo," "Flight," "ParaNorman," "Trouble with the Curve")
NBR Freedom of Expression: "The Central Park Five"
NBR Freedom of Expression: "Promised Land"
William K. Everson Film History Award: 50 Years of Bond Films

Top Films (in alphabetical order)
"Argo"
"Beasts of the Southern Wild"
"Django Unchained"
"Les Miserables"
"Lincoln"
"Looper"
"The Perks of Being a Wallflower"
"Promised Land"
"Silver Linings Playbook"

Top 5 Foreign Language Films (in alphabetical order)
"Barbara"
"The Intouchables"
"The Kid with a Bike"
"No"
"War Witch"

Top 5 Documentaries (in alphabetical order)
"Ai Weiwie: Never Sorry"
"Detropia"
"The Gatekeepers"
"The Invisible War"
"Only the Young"

Top 10 Independent Films (in alphabetical order)
"Arbitrage"
"Bernie"
"Compliance"
"End of Watch"
"Hello I Must Be Going"
"Little Birds"
"Moonrise Kingdom"
"On the Road"
"Quartet"
"Sleepwalk with Me"

(Films shut out entirely include Ang Lee's "Life of Pi," Paul Thomas Anderson's "The Master," Wes Anderson's "Moonrise Kingdom" and Robert Zemeckis's "Flight.")

My pet peeve of detrius 2012 is going to be people alphabetizing Les Miz under "L."

Best Documentary: "Searching for Sugar Man"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lisa Schwarzbaum
Top 10
01. Zero Dark Thirty
02. Lincoln
03. The Master
04. Amour
05. Argo
06. The Gatekeepers
07. Beasts of the Southern Wild
08. Skyfall
09. The Loneliest Planet
10. How to Survive a Plague
Bottom 5
01. Hitchcock
02. That's What She Said
03. Hyde Park on Hudson
04. Butter
05. Trouble with the Curve

Owen Gleiberman
Top 10
01. Lincoln
02. Amour
03. Silver Linings Playbook
04. Room 237
05. Zero Dark Thirty
06. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
07. Killing Them Softly
08. Argo
09. Flight
10. Bernie
Bottom 5
01. John Carter
02. 2016: Obama's America
03. House at the End of the Street
04. Rust and Bone
05. Tyler Perry's Madea's Witness Protection

dear sweet reactionary bloodless Argo

Dang, Rust and Bone in the bottom 5

John Carter unfairly shat upon

Saying it's worse than 2016: Obama's America is pretty harsh

only think the liberal hollywood machine hates more than conservatives is an expensive flop

Battleship was by some measure the worse Kitsch atrocity.

Battleship was so funny

Things I just now learned from this thread: there was a movie abt butter carving released in 2012.

directed by Bela Tarr?

Chefmaster Harmonies

The Churning Horse

Unsáltedtangó

the man from Lurpak

Molly McSzabadgyalog

NBR doing a ghetto of "top ten independent films": Kill them all.

Battleship was by some measure the worse Kitsch atrocity.

― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 4:00 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Battleship was wayyy better.

hungry4assmovies

why did you call yourself turds? why?!

To match my posting.

I'm not really endorsing Battleship btw, it's just a better time than JC.

probably not 'wayyy' with three y's better, admittedly

Nah, JC is competently made and has Planet of the Apes references. Battleship has a bunch of old guys fighting aliens.

Is that a counter-argument???

JC is (maybe) competently made and top-to-bottom boring. Battleship at least entertains at points

lock thread

lol

Carter features Kitsch shirtless much more often than Battleship.

turds hungry for ass otm abt john carter, a wretched boring pile of shit that still wasn't the worst film i saw this year (hello, dark shadows)

so I guess Django is just fucked by coming out at Xmas, huh?

or ppl have woken up to the con.

shoulda been a contender: Seann William Scott's manchild in Goon

Goon was surprisingly likeable

Django is just fucked by giving off a Wild Wild West vibe even without Will Smith

End of Watch rereleased for another South Florida run this weekend? Are producers Oscar baiting?

the Marlins have a better shot

A number of crix have bitched that they aren't getting a Django screening before list deadlines. Part of me is all "too bad so sad" for them running their lists nearly a month before the end of the year, but the other part of me wants to gloat because the Twin Cities is getting a screening tonight.

it's the little things.

Perhaps I can't see Tabu in time for voting; it opens in NY on Dec 26.

Seriously, I have received next to nothing for over a week now. Going to have to grill FedEx.

So, yeah, turns out that FedEx had been holding all my packages for the last week+ and not telling me anything was waiting. So now, I've got copies of Hyde Park and Hitchcock safe at home. Whew!

... oh wait.

Canadian top 10 as selected by a panel from the Toronto International Film Festival -- there's a film of Rushdie's Midnight's Children?

(in alphabetical order)

Cosmopolis, David Cronenberg
The End of Time, Peter Mettler
Goon, Michael Dowse
Laurence Anyways, Xavier Dolan
Midnight’s Children, Deepa Mehta
My Awkward Sexual Adventure, Sean Garrity
Rebelle, Kim Nguyen
Still, Michael McGowan
Stories We Tell, Sarah Polley
The World Before Her, Nisha Pahuja

There is, but I'd heard it was no good.

Then again, Goon is here too.

Goon deserves prizes ahead of many films on Peter Travers' list. "Gay porn hard!"

Travers is a robot.

Michael Atkinson's fave genre films (I guess I will take Jack & Diane off the disc pile):

http://blog.sundancenow.com/weekly-columns/viva-mabuse-15-days-of-eclipse

Just watched The Dark Knight Rises last night, and I can't be happier that it seems be getting shut out of most of these lists. I sorta liked the first two in this series, all the while realizing that they completely fell apart on any reflection, but this one was just too much. An anti-nuke film with a strong fetish for what is essentially military gear? One pro-Occupy Wall Street anti-hero cancelled out by the introduction of a violent revolutionary whose presence ends up justifying good old law and order (and salvation from a private enterprise, weapons manufacturing billionaire) in the end? Bullshit.

Kudos, I guess, for making Catwoman lesbian, and for Joseph Gordon Levitt's best performance in years.

nice list, thanx for the link, morbs

i agree w/ him abt wheatley's kill list, which to my mind is the best and most original 'horror' film i've seen since the blair witch project, and already a stone classic, to my mind. unfortunately, wheatley's new film, sightseers, is nowhere near as good, though charitably i would count it as a minor failed experiment and hope for better things next time. at the very least, in the space of three small films wheatley has really established a p unique signature style.

was in two minds abt seeing seven psychopaths tomorrow, but must admit comparisons to the last movie are p persuasive - love that film - even tho' i only sort've liked in bruges

Les Miserables is awful. shocker.

idgaf, will see it in my lonely jewish xmas double feature with django

Weird to say it, but I'm interested in seeing it to see in what ways Hooper fucked it up.

I've had basically no exposure to Les Mis; I'm barely even old enough to know anybody who is really into Rent (mainly my rabbi).

there are no age restrictions for "people who are really into les mis and/or rent", you just need to spend more time backstage at high school/college/community theatres

^this

Weird to say it, but I'm interested in seeing it to see in what ways Hooper fucked it up.

As bad as most of the cast is, it's really Hooper's absurd dedication to making it "gritty" and "realistic" that dooms it, in a variety of ways.

I'm already on the lookout for friends who post anything remotely rapturous on Facebook.

Just watched Oslo, August 31st last night, thought it was very good. And oddly not as grim as it seemed like it should be? Sort of like a modest-scaled Tree of Life with the poetry pared down to a Scandinavian minimum.

LA crix announce in the next few hours. DC crix towed the party line.

DC (nominations first, awards later)

Best Film:
Argo
Les Misérables
Lincoln
Silver Linings Playbook
Zero Dark Thirty

Best Director:
Ben Affleck (Argo)
Paul Thomas Anderson (The Master)
Kathryn Bigelow (Zero Dark Thirty)
Tom Hooper (Les Misérables)
Steven Spielberg (Lincoln)

Best Actor:
Daniel Day-Lewis (Lincoln)
John Hawkes (The Sessions)
Hugh Jackman (Les Misérables)
Joaquin Phoenix (The Master)
Denzel Washington (Flight)

Best Actress:
Jessica Chastain (Zero Dark Thirty)
Marion Cotillard (Rust and Bone)
Jennifer Lawrence (Silver Linings Playbook)
Helen Mirren (Hitchcock)
Emmanuelle Riva (Amour)

Best Supporting Actor:
Alan Arkin (Argo)
Javier Bardem (Skyfall)
Leonardo DiCaprio (Django Unchained)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (The Master)
Tommy Lee Jones (Lincoln)

Best Supporting Actress:
Amy Adams (The Master)
Samantha Barks (Les Misérables)
Sally Field (Lincoln)
Anne Hathaway (Les Misérables)
Helen Hunt (The Sessions)

Oslo gets the most overt grimnesss across early.

An attempt to exorcise the inevitable slew of bad faith that accompanies the end of the year in cinema:

http://encorentertainmnt.blogspot.com/2012/12/holding-out-for-failure-or-weird-trends_8.html

Allow me to step up on my soapbox for a bit but one part of being a cinephile is loving the cinema, right? Shouldn’t we then hope that we’re inundated with barrage of good – great – movies?

And oddly not as grim as it seemed like it should be?

Morbius OTM. And then it's full of not-so-grim things that are sort of clear to us but not to him. Someone make a movie of my life, so I can see the beauty and humor!

Tho it seems like he registers all that too, at some level. He's just ok with it carrying on, whether he's there or not.

(as it does for all of us, etc)

I guess so. I felt he didn't realize that the constant reminders and reproaches were mostly in his head, or at least magnified tenfold there. Maybe this is more appropriate for the depression thread...

Sasha Stone ‏@sashastone2010
Last year's LAFCA shut out of The Artist was truly tilting at wind mills but it only matters to them so who cares.

Yeah, game over.

Full Boston results ... LA still announcing categories (they appear to be building toward a Master win).

Best Picture
"Zero Dark Thirty" (Runner-up: "Amour" and "Moonrise Kingdom")

Best Director
Kathryn Bigelow, "Zero Dark Thirty" (Runner-up: Paul Thomas Anderson, "The Master")

Best Actor
Daniel Day-Lewis, "Lincoln" (Runner-up: Denis Lavant, "Holy Motors")

Best Actress
Emmanuelle Riva, "Amour" (Runner-up: Deanie Yip, "A Simple Life")

Best Supporting Actor
Ezra Miller, "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" (Runner-up: Christoph Waltz, Django Unchained)

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Field, "Lincoln" (Runner-up: Emma Watson, "The Perks of Being a Wallflower")

Best Screenplay
"Lincoln" (Runner-up: "Moonrise Kingdom")

Best Foreign Film
"Amour" (Runner-up: "Holy Motors")

Best Cinematography
"The Master" (Runner-up: “Moonrise Kindgom,” "Life of Pi")

Best Documentary
"How To Survive a Plague" (Runner-up: "The Queen of Versailles")

Best Animated Film
"Frankenweenie" (Runner-up: “Paranorman")

Best Film Editing (awarded in memory of Karen Schmeer)
“Zero Dark Thirty" (Runner-up: “Argo”)

Best New Filmmaker (awarded in memory of David Brudnoy)
David France, How To Survive a Plague (Runner-up: Benh Zeitlin, Beasts of the Southern Wild)

Best Ensemble Cast
"Seven Psychopaths" (Runner-up: "Moonrise Kingdom")

Best Use of Music in a Film
"Moonrise Kingdom" (Runner-up: "Django Unchained")

Initially read that last category of "Best Use of Magic in a Film" and thought "what a sweet way to describe special effects"

Django running up in "best use of magic" would've been precious.

I was wrong about LA gearing up for The Master, though this feels like a classic block given its four other awards.

Best Picture
"Amour" (Runner-up: "The Master")

Best Actor
Joaquin Phoenix, "The Master" (Runner-up: Denis Lavant, "Holy Motors")

Best Actress
Jennifer Lawrence, "Silver Linings Playbook" and Emmanuelle Riva, "Amour" (tie)

Best Supporting Actor
Dwight Henry, "Beasts of the Southern Wild" (Runner-up: Christoph Waltz, "Django Unchained")

Best Supporting Actress
Amy Adams, "The Master" (Runner-up: Anne Hathaway, "Les Miserables" and "The Dark Knight Rises")

Best Director
Paul Thomas Anderson, "The Master" (Runner-up: Kathryn Bigelow, "Zero Dark Thirty")

Best Screenplay
Chris Terrio, "Argo" (Runner-up: David O. Russell, "Silver Linings Playbook")

Best Cinematography
Roger Deakins, "Skyfall" (Runner-up: Mihai Malaimare Jr., "The Master")

Best Editing
Dylan Tichenor and William Goldenberg, "Zero Dark Thirty" (Runner-up: William Goldenberg, "Argo")

Best Documentary/Non-fiction Film
"The Gatekeepers" (Runner-up: "Searching For Sugar Man")

Best Foreign-Language Film
"Holy Motors" (Runner-up: "Footnote")

Best Animated Film
"Frankenweenie" (Runner-up: "It's Such a Beautiful Day")

Best Music/Score
Dan Romer and Benh Zeitlin, "Beasts of the Southern Wild." (Runner-up: Jonny Greenwood, "The Master")

Best Production Design
David Crank and Jack Fisk, "The Master." (Runner-up: Adam Stockhausen, "Moonrise Kingdom")

Douglas E. Edwards Independent/Experimental Film/Video:
"Leviathan"

Skyfall looked fine, but giving a Bond film an award like that, even by Deakins, is bullshit.

"Seven Psychopaths" wtf

a classic block

you mean like in tic tac toe, ja?

Jennifer Lawrence's short march to the podium is gonna make Best Actress 0-11 the last decade.

Nah, Skyfall looked fantastic. Cool with the win, glad to see it.

glad they could help out a half-a-billion grosser

Jennifer Lawrence, "Silver Linings Playbook" and Emmanuelle Riva, "Amour" (tie)

loooool

glad that a film's earnings are now directly relevant to the quality of the work. xpost

remember when the Academy gave The Godfather Best PIcture I mean that's so embarrassing now.

really helped it out

yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of The Godfather, but it's certainly cinematic art compared to fucking Skyfall.

(which I also like but c'mon)

I'm not sure Skyfall has the best cinematography of the year, but it is very, very good and I'm happy people can take off blinders when it comes to action films etc.

I didn't see Frankenweenie but it blows my mind that it keeps shutting ParaNorman out from things

I haven't seen it either but I watched Paranorman last night and have hard time believing rehashed Burton was better.

Sort of wish Hertzfeldt would've flat out won that one, even though 2/3rds of that is recycled material, right?

No one would argue against the idea that one particular scene in Skyfall pushed it OTT for that award. Though I like a lot of the Straw Dogs stuff at the end, too. (I like one particular shot in The Master -- the department store model showing off her ensemble -- better than almost anything else in that movie.)

Skyfall looked fine, but giving a Bond film an award like that, even by Deakins, is bullshit.

― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, December 9, 2012 9:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Stfu

deakins def deserves the 'best turd polishing' award

some critics see Deakins' name, check it off Pavlovstyle.

h4a waitin for more Taylorkitsch on his screen.

No one would argue against the idea that one particular scene in Skyfall pushed it OTT for that award.

well, do I get to find out? Skyscraper fight to the death I assume.

Duh.

Am pretty disappointed that neither The Turin Horse nor The Loneliest Planet got much traction in crix cinematography awards.

a classic block

you mean like in tic tac toe, ja?

I now realize how NAGL this line of thinking is: http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/12/10/two-critics-groups-announce-one-stages-stages-a-coup/

Oh, something that isn't one of the top 2 movies predicted to win the best picture Oscar was selected. Clearly shenanigans! Clearly invalidated!

I also promise that's the last time I link to that blog in this thread.

Duh.

I do not have awards blogging in my marrow, u know

also that Skyfall scene just looked like the centerpiece of a Vegas show to me. I agree the dark siege finale was accomplished.

Am pretty disappointed that neither The Turin Horse nor The Loneliest Planet got much traction in crix cinematography awards.

Yeah, I'm on record as a hater, but I still put Turin on the top of my OFCS ballot.

could you expand on that conundrum? also where are you based, Simon?

that Skyfall scene just looked like the centerpiece of a Vegas show to me

You really do hate sensation, huh.

xp Toronto, just moved here from Mtl a few months ago.

I can't front on Turin as being visually spectacular - it would take it for the opening shot alone - a perfect accompaniment to the overtures of apocalypse. But I also don't think there's any great accomplishment in making a movie about life-as-drudgery that's also a bore and a half to actually sit through, not to mention painfully obvious in the way it spells out its themes.

Mind you, it's my first Tarr and I saw it in the middle of fest crunch at Telluride, maybe a rewatch would enhance my appreciation. Mostly I just want to check out Werckmeister instead.

Well I'm more physically numb than I was 6 months ago, E, so maybe.

Sensation via artificially showcased sadism in a reanimated 50-yo franchise, also maybe.

Also, The Impossible is problematic, but not remotely among the year's clear worsts as everyone I follow on Twitter/Letterboxd had me believe it would be.

ok, I'll put it just ahead of V/H/S in the pile.

Sounds about right. Also ahead of ParaNorman, I'd say.

I think tonight I may actually tackle something that's supposed to be good. The Deep Blue Sea, probably.

anyone seen this French thriller Sleepless Night? prob tnite for me.

No, but that reminds me I'll probably dig Beatrice Dalle in Domaine, as I dig her in everything.

all I ask of each crix group is that one award piss off J*ff W*lls.

The Los Angeles Film Critics Association has defied conventional wisdom by giving its Best Actor prize to Joaquin Phoenix for acting as an alcoholic alien reptile in Paul Thomas Anderson's The Master.

Serendipity no doubt helped me love Turin Horse ; if I'd seen it one.night later I might have snored.

Joaquin played Major Tom?

Wonder what he might've said had Denis L. managed to finally win instead of placing. (Google checks: OK, how in the hell is he a fan of Holy Motors?!)

he wants David Lynch to remake it

perhaps his tastes have gotten more erratic since he quit drinking.

more reliably, he believes Silver Linings is being snubbed by critics who don't get laid.

Not for weeks, no

Speculating on the sex lives of critics is a true zero-sum game.

Sex=1
Critics=zero

DC showing tiny bits of love for Les Mis: http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/12/10/dc-critics-awards-winners/?doing_wp_cron=1355161591.4413909912109375000000

Best Documentary
Bully

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m42xu82cfW1qgf5wso3_500.gif

I did not, nor do I care to, see that movie.

The existence of Bully was nullified, for me, by the existence (and awesomeness) of Chronicle.

AFI MOVIES OF THE YEAR

ARGO
BEASTS OF THE SOUTHERN WILD
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES
LES MISÉRABLES
LIFE OF PI
LINCOLN
MOONRISE KINGDOM
SILVER LININGS PLAYBOOK
ZERO DARK THIRTY

At a push, 2.5 of those are 'worthy'.

(obviously not seen ZDT or Les Mis yet)

Django was also on their list. Nice attempted elision, tho.

Hard do know which gets staler faster these days between detrius season and the holiday shopping season.

hey, I cut 'n pasted str8 from here and no DU shown at the moment.

http://afi-afifest.tumblr.com/

I see it on their homepage tho. They might have a webmaster with a sense of shame.

Richard Brody: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2012/12/best-movies-of-2012.html

lol at anyone that lists To Rome with Love.

I haven't seen any of these yet, by this list struck me as fine until he compared apatow to cassavetes.

agreed, what an insult to apatow

Best Director: Don’t make me choose between Wes Anderson and Leos Carax.

dude, no one's making you do anything, stop any time

I would like to track down Oki's Movie.

ugh, the Woody Allen is in my bottom 5, even below Bernie.

xpost choose wisely

http://baseballfordinner.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/indiana-jones-and-the-last-crusade-you-chose-poorly-motherfucker.gif

lol at anyone that lists To Rome with Love.

Feel like Woody Allen is to the New Yorker as Mick Jagger is to Rolling Stone -- institutionally, it's hard for them to resist him.

I used to go to every new WA film on opening day (usu on the Upper East Side), so it can be done.

Anyone seen Middle of Nowhere? I wonder if it's the real thing or being positioned as a political alternative to Beasts of the Southern Wild.

lol @ Anthony Lane's Hobbit review:

For pathos, though, we still have Gollum, the damned and slimy soul (voiced again by Andy Serkis), who lurks in the dark and loses what he loves. Bilbo finds it: “His hand met what felt like a tiny ring of cold metal lying on the floor of the tunnel.” That is the account given by Tolkien, who knew that turning points were all the more momentous for being unadorned, but Jackson, with so much room to spare, cannot dare to underplay the crux. Instead, before Bilbo stumbles upon the ring, we see it slip from Gollum’s safekeeping, tumble in refulgent slow motion, and, on impact, give a resounding clang. (If Jackson ever films “Othello,” wait for Desdemona’s handkerchief to hit the ground like a sheet of tin.)

And there’s a brief scene in “Red Hook Summer” for which an actress deserves mention here, too, but my notes don’t suffice to identify her; when my DVD arrives (release date: December 21st), I’ll report back.

Does Richard Brody not know about Google and IMDB?

He's quite the Mosaic figure, so perhaps we should visit his mountain and ask.

Choose your favorite howler: http://bit.ly/U2RmvL

"Kathleen Bigalow" vs. "Ang Lee has become the Stanley Kubrick for this generation"

really, David Mixner? Ed Koch just got out of the hospital so I don't know if I'll have one of his to post.

Richard Brody's idiosyncratic list: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2012/12/best-movies-of-2012.html

omigod so "Nathaniel" thinks Best Exotic Geriatric British Actresses in a Hotel will wheeze up a couple nominations.

"This film was filled with joy, music and a great tight script. We need to see more movies from first time director Jason Moore!"

idk kinda otm

It appears that the folks who assembled my crixgroup ballot, between omitting member nominations and not striking ineligible films, don't know Shinola from the other stuff.

Re Best Exotic: Maggie Smith could sneak into supporting actress; otherwise, I don't see where.

I'd sooner bet on a Les Miz twofer than Maggie Smith, but what do I know.

If award season was slimmer I bet Best Exotic would get more play, but the gratitude felt by middlebrow during avengers season has probably faded unless there's a promo push

There is. But probably not one to compare with La anti-Resistance.

So, I guess Javier Bardem is going to get nominated for Skyfall?! He just got a nod from the Screen Actors Guild and, earlier this week, got a nomination from the Broadcast Film Critics Awards (whores who have made it their all but explicitly stated goal to predict the Oscars).

In goofier news, Nicole Kidman's in the running for The Paperboy now, thanks to SAG.

In annoyinger news, best actress will probably continue its streak of having the widest gulf in quality between crix awards and Oscar nominations. That is to say, instead of Emmanuelle Riva (who is probably not SAG eligible) and Rachel Weisz (who undoubtedly is), they nominated Helen Mirren for Hitchcock.

Best Ensemble Cast
Argo
The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
Les Miserables
Lincoln
Silver Linings Playbook

Best Actor
Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook
Daniel Day-Lewis, Lincoln
John Hawkes, The Sessions
Hugh Jackman, Les Miserables
Denzel Washington, Flight

Best Actress
Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty
Marion Cotillard, Rust & Bone
Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
Helen Mirren, Hitchcock
Naomi Watts, The Impossible

Best Supporting Actor
Alan Arkin, Argo
Javeir Bardem, Skyfall
Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook
Phil Seymour Hoffman, The Master
Tommy Lee Jones, Lincoln

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Field, Lincoln
Anne Hathaway, Les Miserables
Helen Hunt, The Sessions
Nicole Kidman, The Paperboy
Maggie Smith, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel

Best Actor nods for Oscar looked locked, eh

and lookit that: Maggie Smith

unless the Academy prefers Phoenix over Washington.

Yeah, actor is almost locked up. Joaquin could slip in there over Sexiest Man Alive '11, but otherwise, I don't think anyone else has a shot.

No way they're not nominating Washington. He's straight up Days of Wine and Roses.

No way I'm dragging myself to the theatre to watch The Miserables and Hitchcock.

Hate to say it, but N@thaniel R. was probably right when he said that the Oscars, when faced with a relatively rich, diverse slate of contenders in best actress, will usually revert to business as usual names coasting in cheap, baity parts i.e. Mirren.

He cited Dench in Mrs. Henderson Presents as precedent, but I can't remember if '05 had a lot of good options.

worst Best Actress noms of the new century; they had to scrape to find competition for Witherspoon, remember?

Oh yeah, I vaguely remember people legitimately thinking Watts would show up for King Kong.

(Man, even the National Society of Film Critics had to go with Witherspoon that year.)

Charlize Theron in Norma Rae!

So, in short, Nat R. doesn't know what he's talking about if he's proposing '05 as a year in which the Academy fell back on old reliables when faced with an unusually strong slate.

creeping Oscarcentrism.... nagl

SAGs def look like the miost boring choices inaginable aside from Kidman

There's still a certain pair of alt critic polls and the National Society results outstanding to keep this thread's future classy.

Javier Bardem = wacky killer queer flipside of Anton Chigurh = irresistible to Hollywood

http://img1.etsystatic.com/007/0/6564834/il_170x135.400096749_jhzo.jpg

Kid with a Bike got added to Netflix instant. I'm going to give them one more chance to triple wow me.

A summary of some Top 10 lists so far: http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/film-critics-2012-top-ten-lists?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/2013-image-awards-nominations

Motion Picture

"Beasts of the Southern Wild" (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
"Django Unchained" (The Weinstein Company)
"Flight" (Paramount Pictures)
"Red Tails" (Lucasfilm)
"Tyler Perry's Good Deeds" (Lionsgate)

Unreal Django over Middle of Nowhere and Lincoln.

Clearly the best list from that indiewire roundup:

1. "Les Miserables"
2. "Magic Mike"
3. "The Impossible"
4. "Argo"
5. "Zero Dark Thirty"
6. "Ted"
7. "Flight"
8. "21 Jump Street"
9. "Pitch Perfect"
10. "The Dark Knight Rises"

I'm trying to figure out how I can force MM into my top ten.

NY Post bringing it xpost

xpost I dunno, but "Pony" is better than each and every one of these: http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2012/20121211.html

hmmm....http://vimeo.com/55071466

Golden Globes!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/first-golden-globe-nominations-announced-401941

Memo to Oscar voters: Helen Mirren was unimpressive in a horrible film. Do better.

Also, great montage, Gukbe.

Also, lol at nomination for Bill Murray's FDR in musical/comedy actor.

by the way, The Best Exotic Whorehouse in Bombay is even worse than you can imagine. I did laugh once at the audacity of John Madden framing a joke around Maggie Smith's mou of dismay that her doctor was a brownskinned savage.

Fiona Apple ("Dull Tool" - This is 40), Katy Perry (from her concert movie), though I think "Skyfall" has best song sewn up. Also on that list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEBJVqG4rps

I can only hope "Skyfall" beats obligatory song written specifically to get Les Miz another Oscar nod, even though I think that song's actually not bad and I'm pretty meh on Adele.

I would repost my Salmon Fishing rveiew if I thought anyone needed reassurance.

bunch of foreigners w/ venereal diseases vote the GGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL8_8hQFzdw

Oops, thought Morbs was repping for Salmon Fishing for best song, but no, and that song's no good.

Last soundtrack post...maybe R. Kelly at the Oscars this year?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5_mJ6wTHBU

I literally don't remember one new song from the films I saw this year aside from the stuff that was in Holy Motors (incl the Adele 007 theme)

I hope that category has only 2 nominees again this year.

uh surely I don't know what "category" for some future "awards" you seem to be elevating above all others

Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTd2kdVXmP0