X-Men: Days of Future Past random info dump thread

Because:

Bryan Singer, who helmed the first two superb installments that launched the franchise at Fox and whom Deadline was first to reveal will helm X-Men: Days of Future Past, has just Tweeted the following news:

“I’d like to officially welcome back James McAvoy, Jennifer Lawrence, Michael Fassbender and Nicholas Hoult to X-Men: Days Of Future Past. Also thrilled to announce Sir Ian Mckellen and Sir Patrick Stewart.”

How is that going to work with the actors playing both Magneto and Professor Xavier, in the same movie with Fassbender and McAvoy, who played those characters as young men in X-Men: First Class? “The movie is called X-Men: Days of Future Past, use your imagination,” Singer tells me.

Presumably this means a four way orgy oh wait.

This thing is swapping directors and everything else too often, likely going to suck

hope they cast someone good for shadowcat

This thing is swapping directors and everything else too often, likely going to suck

Agreed.

Awesome, maybe this will have time travel in it.

really wish this movie was called x-men: second class

Awesome, maybe this will have time travel in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Future_Past

X-Men: No Class.

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Didn't make the obvious connection to famed storyline xpost.

Otoh, I would LOVE to see Fat Albert: Days of Future Past.

Hope Kitty Pryde still turns into Widget or whatever happened there.

they better not fuck up the sentinels, is all i'm saying.

they'll fuck up the sentinels, of course.

re: Widget, omg I had forgotten about that

can we just cut to the chase and get an Excalibur movie?

That I would see.

No kidding.

they're supposedly doing Guardians of the Galaxy. That team has a somewhat similar feel.

first class was awfully good, getting both eras together like this seems more like a third movie thing than a second one.

X-Men 3 suuuucked btw

It's really going to depend on how they adapt DOFP to the movie universe; the less actual overlap between the past and future eras, the better.

how have they not exploited the dark phoenix thing yet? that's like three movies right there, from build-up to vaporized on a moon.

uh spoilers i guess.

I hope the future era bit is just prof x/magneto getting blown away by sentinels

x-men 3 did a stupid phoenix thing, strong

o

i never did see three. i think?

yeah, that was the movie's take on Dark Phoenix, which was basically "Jean becomes a psychic ragemonster that consumes everything in her path, including Cyclops (lolololol)"

oh lame

vaporize some planets you punks

the movie was terrible but watching emo Cyke get vaporised is one of my most treasured film experiences

he was actually vaporised due to the fact he had little shooting time and was cast in that mediocre Superman movie

(not kidding)

i always wondered about piotr and kitty's relationship in a "man of steel, woman of kleenex" sort of way

it's probably a good thing i have to go to the store to avoid chasing this line of thought any further

I categorically refuse to be drawn into this conversation because I have to go home

i mean...what if he...you know...during...

First Class was better than 3, but they both suuuuucked, though for different reasons. I liked Magneto: Nazi Hunter, just like in another universe I liked David: Space Dodderer, but man, I did not otherwise think Fassbinder did a good job. His strainin'-my-brain Magneto moves looked like he was taking a big dump in his pants.

she would phase and he'd fire metallic sperm into the dashboard

oh did I mention they were boning in a Hummer?

well i mean obviously

wait why is his SPERM metallic?

wait why am i asking this?

Well now I'm getting an alternate lyric for a Catherine Wheel song and no thank you.

I liked First Class, although it had some boring "hey we're mutants all learning how to be young hip mutants together" moments and needed more pervo Xavier

didn't they establish at some point that his entire body shifts to organic metal, like down to the cellular level? which would obv include his sperm

think of them as little BBs of life

maybe if we make it to 900 x-men movies somebody can do the grant morrison run

xpost lol

really wish this movie was called x-men: second class

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

X-Men: Steerage

how are they going to film the scene where Xavier strangles Cassandra in utero and will that play under the opening credits?

computer-generated, although I demand they graft mcavoy's face on

"theme from 'love story'"

really wish this movie was called x-men: second class

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha same

my hope for first class was that it would be like Blow Up with mutants but they really downplayed the 60s stuff, i guess for fear of making an austin powers movie

lol ya would have been awesome if the super-antics were just a backdrop to '60s stuff

Hope Longshot and Mojo get involved.

And Psylocke and Kwannon. And Joseph. Basically, any character with a hyperconvoluted and nonsensical backstory and whose relevance to the broader universe is highly questionable.

but they really downplayed the 60s stuff, i guess for fear of making an austin powers movie

i dunno man, it was pretty groovy

there's something kind of pathetic about Singer returning to this franchise though. Seems washed up at this point

otm

I don't know that he was ever washed down, really, so to speak. X2 might be his best movie (guess which other obvious contender I don't think much of). He was probably dumb to leave the franchise in the first place, and going back to it is probably the best thing he could do for himself.

Oh i think he's a terrible director (don't even rate X2 that highly) but this seems like a backwards step for everyone concerned. Compared to the excitement surrounding the other Marvel universe, this is all a bit old hat

x-men 2 ('x2'? sheesh) is an awful movie

sorry for calling movie by its name please forgive so sorry

Saw it a few months ago for the first time since theaters and X2 has aged very, very poorly. If Singer wasn't in on the ground floor with this series, I'm sure he'd be looked at in the same way as any other Len Wiseman/John Moore/etc. studio hack

You guys are gross

bruh i just want a movie with rad sentinels and i do not trust Singer to give me that

Sorry Raymund Cummings

That said this movie could be awesome

There's some really good stuff in the second X-Men movie, and I imagine without it and its success we wouldn't have gotten the more successful subsequent Marvel reboots. Then again, you could also say that without the silly failures of Ang Lee's "Hulk" and Singer's "Stuporman" we might not have gotten the more successful reboots, either.

Man, can't believe Singer is almost 50.

I don't think Singer gets the same thing out of comics that I do

x2 sucked

X1 and X2 were close in quality

'90s X-Men cartoon is the only adaptation you need.

I think Ang Lee's Hulk is better than its rep. I'd rather see more comics adaptations by him than anything by Singer.

No.

X1-3 have always felt about the same, quality-wise, to me. I actually like First Class the least.

i havent seen X2 since it came out but i thought it was pretty sick back then.

Compared to the excitement surrounding the other Marvel universe, this is all a bit old hat

Yeah, this is otm. The Marvel Studios movies have done a great job of putting a lot of the fun stuff from the comics on-screen and creating a sense of a shared universe. The X-Men movies, on the other hand, have seemed increasingly like box-ticking exercises to ensure the movie rights didn't revert back to Marvel.

I did enjoy First Class, mainly for Fassbender and McAvoy's performances, but the idea of a flashback movie must surely have come because they had painted themselves into a stupid corner at the end of X3 and couldn't think of an alternative. I have similar reservations about the thinking behind bringing back McKellen and Stewart.

the 3rd x-men movie is like a surprisingly entertaining bill mantlo fill-in after the ponderous len weinesque first two

I liked the first two fine but I always kind of tried too hard to like them because that was as good as it got at the time. Glad that Marvel is finally putting out movies that I enjoy unreservedly (Lee's Hulk was stylistically annoying, and I never got what people saw in the Spider-flicks).

xp Haha, I'd never thought of it like that before but you're right. It certainly has all the Mantlo hallmarks of being hastily hashed-together at the last minute to cover a blown deadline. In fact, wasn't X3 rushed into production to meet a predetermined release date?

I have similar reservations about the thinking behind bringing back McKellen and Stewart.

― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:28 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i bet they won't be in it that much

yeah. matthew vaughn was the original director of X3 and he bailed because he didnt like the release date, which is how ratner came to fill in for him.

he didn't like the fact that they didn't have a script or finished production design but that the release date meant that shooting started in a week or three, iirc

I was high on pain medication and sleep deprived when I watched X3 so I remember LOVING it. If I watched it now it would probably be terrible, but at the time it was hilarious and entertaining.

X3 is terrible, but it is also hilarious and entertaining

I did enjoy First Class, mainly for Fassbender and McAvoy's performances, but the idea of a flashback movie must surely have come because they had painted themselves into a stupid corner at the end of X3 and couldn't think of an alternative.

Or... they are taking the second-most popular X-Men story and adapting it for the big screen after taking the most popular X-Men story (Dark Phoenix) and adapting it for the big screen

he means First Class was a flashback movie

Of course that's what they're doing, DJP - it just seems to me that the fact they needed to quietly reboot with a shift to the sixties instead of just continuing on to do Days of Future Past as a direct sequel to X3 suggests they ran out of narrative steam with the third movie.

i havent seen X2 since it came out but i thought it was pretty sick back then.

― turds (Hungry4Ass)

It was pretty good, but I spent most of it thinking 'Why does this not have Sentinels in it?'

the 3rd x-men movie is like a surprisingly entertaining bill mantlo fill-in after the ponderous len weinesque first two

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:30 AM

nerd lolz.

It was pretty good, but I spent most of it thinking 'Why does this not have Sentinels in it?'

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:22 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

it sucked how they pussed out on sentinels in x3 because avi arad hates giant humanoids or something

Galactus say hi to you
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X2 seemed really cool at the time, definitely better than the first one and in hindsight leagues ahead of the terrible third one. But they all started to feel hokey and made-for-TV once the general caliber of superhero movies started rising with stuff like Spider-Man 1 and 2.

I liked it so much I remember thinking s1ocki was a jerk for disliking it (I really have no excuse for this other than him being relatively new at the time). Then I watched it on tv a couple of years ago and realized it was pretty meh.

http://i.qkme.me/3ppljj.jpg

sorry, I had just woken up when I wrote that previous post

It had a cool plot, more going on in it than the first one by far, some nice shoutouts to bits of continuity that you wouldn't think they'd use, the cool Wolverine/Deathstrike fight, the whole Magneto-recruiting-Pyro thing which was cool...but just overall not compelling. I assume it's better than the Fantastic Four movies (which I've only seen bits of).

Probably wouldn't turn it off if I was home for the holidays and it was on in the afternoon.

oh man, EVERYTHING is better than the Fantastic Four movie, including oral surgery

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^^^ qualified oral surgeons

i've enjoyed every x movie (even wolverine). the "young kid learns their disability is a virtue" thing always tugs at my heartstrings and super powers are nifty.

granted i'm not sure i've ever seen any of them twice

realizing i remember exactly nothing about any of the x-men movies

The first X-Men movie was the point where I had to confront the fact that while I really adore watching her on screen, Halle Berry actually is a horrible actress.

no one could have delivered that "do you know what happens to a toad" line credibly tbf

Her line reading was incredibly wooden, even though the line is bad.

maybe Angela Bassett or Gina Torres?

I loved the way Halle Berry had a terrible faux-African accent in the first one which she just decided to dispense with altogether for the second and third ones.

She did???? I don't remember that at all!

halle's perf in the first x-men is oscarworthy next to january jones in first class

to be fair NO ONE could deliver chris claremont-derived dialogue with any conviction

oh no one said January Jones was any good either

Berry's toad line made more sense when I read Whedon explaining that she'd delivered it completely wrong. S'posed to be a snarky, Buffy-esque zinger.

imo thats just whedon passing the buck instead of sacking up and taking responsibility for a terrible line

the way blockbuster action films are made, there are at least a dozen people who should be smacked for that line

I never had the guts to watch the Daredevil or Elektra movies

now, Punisher: War Zone, that is awesome

punisher: war zone is one of the best films of the 21st-century

Yeah, War Zone is a blast. The How Did This Get Made? podcast with the director, still somewhat bemused by her brush with the Hollywood system, is fantastic.

Daredevil was terrible, but it was still better than the F4 movies

I think I saw maybe 20 minutes of each of those films, and they are the worst things

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2012/01/507da3a1187ba9ad97a51cd23dfe3700.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggH5-vLlUQ

Fantastic Four!
Don't need no more! (that's ungrammatical)

Always thought Corman Thing looked better (in stills, anyway) than Commish Ting.

Also thought it was a weird choice to give Commish Ting a Jamaican accent.

It's clobbergideon time!

I liked it so much I remember thinking s1ocki was a jerk for disliking it (I really have no excuse for this other than him being relatively new at the time). Then I watched it on tv a couple of years ago and realized it was pretty meh.

aw

if it's any consolation i still think you're a jerk.

j/k i couldn't even type that with a straight face.

our kind of jerk

http://youtu.be/9RZj6gmGBHM

James McAvoy's fine ass is probably never going to be in another film I ever want to see

maybe they'll cast him in submariner, doc. then you'll get him in a fish scale speedo.

someday i hope to turn the corner in a movie theater and be faced with a poster of a man's calf with little wings on the ankle

SUMMER 2017

They're making a movie featuring Rocket Racoon. I'd say all bets are off at this point.

what a wonderful cinematic future we've all woken up in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ByCY2UYLHG8

Lololol this movie. Not like the continuity ever made any sense before either but you can pretty much ignore everything that happened in at least three of the previous movies now. I just can't figure out -which- three.

well good because who remembers any of that stuff anyway

Even the poster has continuity errors! To be fair, is this now the longest same-continuity superhero franchise? Seven films? Gotta be hard to read capsule plot summaries of that many movies and keep it all straight.

Fox needs to do the right thing and sell the rights to Disney

imo the franchise would be best served by forgetting most of the other movies existed so I don't see that as a negative

To be fair, is this now the longest same-continuity superhero franchise?

IIRC the Wolverine movies and First Class contradict each other in many parts, and of course Magneto and Xavier and Beast in the X-Men movies are younger than they are in First Class (though with Beast there's at least a bit of a handwave to explain that in FC). Before Days of Future Past was announced, I think everyone assumed FC was a reboot?

except they emphasized repeatedly it was not a reboot and had jackman as wolverine in it

idk, the hand-waving and flat-out ignoring of continuity when it becomes inconvenient is a pretty key part of comics history anyway, doesn't really bother me.

i kinda like the absurd nods to continuity in the bond series (generally references to the wife) where they pretend connery -> dalton (maybe brosnan even) is all one guy

this was pretty good

yeah this was enjoyable and really was able to take advantage of there being so much backstory by now, enjoyed also how it used continuity as something you can have fun w/ but not something you ever need to feel beholden too. was pretty skeptical of quicksilver going in but everything w/ him was fantastic. making these things period pieces adds so much to the appeal for me, in my dreams the same would be done w/ fantastic four but that's clearly never going to happen. had just half watched first class the night before so was kinda stunned that literally every mutant from that movie that didn't have a line in this one was tortured and killed in the interim. couldn't tell how much mckellan and stewart looking so old was they are so old or just 'it's the future'. they're getting better at making these things.

This was ok I guess. Quicksilver parts were the most fun.

Least convincing movie-Nixon since Watchmen lol

The internal logic (ha) kinda confused me. So the original sentinels were invented in 1973..ok. Where were they during the previous movies? Why weren't they being used against the mutants then?

Also what was the point of Magneto lifting a stadium, other than looking sort of impressive?

was a little weirded out quicksilver had 2000s style headphones.
he used the stadium was to encircle the white house.

Yeah I guess i was starting to mentally check out by that point

Never been a huge X-men guy

Where were they during the previous movies? Why weren't they being used against the mutants then?

I'm dumb. I just realized it was because Dinklage was killed in the original timeline.

This was great!

best part is that they're able to claim all movies post-First Class are non-continuity now, should they continue the franchise

do Charles and Eric finally fuck or

o that reminds me, if you've been wanting to see hugh jackman's naked ass in imax 3-d well here's yr chance

does it have psionic properties

what is the better prof x/magneto slash, young or old?

i enjoyed this more than i expected to. it felt mostly perfunctory but hit its marks and the clouds parted to let some funlight in for quicksilver's sweet little set piece.

the use of "time in a bottle" there gave a better sense of the superness of superpowers, and the joy of having and using them, than i think i've ever seen on screen before. no angst, do dramatic sndtrk because there's bio drama. just pure pleasure.

i didn't really understand the point of magneto dropping that stadium over the white house but it was bad ass.

kept kids off the lawn iirc

do I need to rewatch everything to enjoy this?

(I rewatched the first x men movie tonight)

I rewatched Emmanuelle

Yeah, this was okay - lol at how ruthlessly they erased X3 from history, though.

Quicksilver's set piece was clearly the best part. I wish they'd kept him around for longer, but I guess they dropped him and removed Charles' powers for most of the movie to ensure the whole thing wasn't wrapped up in 30 minutes.

Also lol at how thoroughly they managed to fuck up the continuity not just across the whole of the X-Men movies but also even between the end of The Wolverine and Days of Future Past, which were made so close together that there's an apparent setup for the latter in the former. At the end of The Wolverine, Logan's lost his adamantium claws and returned to having bone claws; in DOFP, he has adamantium claws again in the future. In The Wolverine, he's approached in the present day by Charles and Magneto who need him to help in the past; in DOFP, it's way in the future before they realise they will have to send him back in time.

maybe they'd already been teamed up and fighting the sentinels for a decade between recruiting wolvie and this film. and uh, magneto put his metal back in. yeah.

and uh, Xavier had the power to reconstitute his body

reconstituted xavier explained here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnVoTt35Uw0

why moira is american in first class: never explained

No that explains Xavier in a diff, non wheelchaired body, right? Is he constantly projecting an illusion of an old man in a wheelchair?

the credits said dixie chicken was played at some point, when was dixie chicken playing?

also god this movie sucked whenever two characters talked to each other about WHO THEY ARE AS MUTANTS etc, never checked out that quickly in a movie

not sure if this movie made any sense but it was a lot of fun.

i was pretty down with it.

Also lol at how thoroughly they managed to fuck up the continuity not just across the whole of the X-Men movies but also even between the end of The Wolverine and Days of Future Past, which were made so close together that there's an apparent setup for the latter in the former. At the end of The Wolverine, Logan's lost his adamantium claws and returned to having bone claws; in DOFP, he has adamantium claws again in the future. In The Wolverine, he's approached in the present day by Charles and Magneto who need him to help in the past; in DOFP, it's way in the future before they realise they will have to send him back in time.

but whatever, this was great! i admire the effort they put into cramming six movies - some good, some garbage - into this reboot mess. it was still semi-coherent and very enjoyable, great set-pieces, character moments, thumbs up all around

bring on Apocalypse in the 80s, i'm am super on-board now

and i really did love how the ending completely nullifies that horrible third movie

there's something chintzy about these two movies, i think cuz they're filmed in montreal, that kind of adds to the charm, makes them more comic-booky

Now I really want to watch Quicksilver movie. Evan Peters was awesome.

yeah. Who'da thunk it

My friend had to explain Magneto's powers to me. I was like "wait how can he fly without his magic helmet" and she was like siiiigh don't you know anything

lol

I've never understood how he could fly. he's not made of metal.

his belt is

or his underpants or something

sounds painful

yeah i always just assumed steel toed boots or something. pennies glued to his heels.

He doesn't control metal, you yutzes, he controls magnetic fields. Thus, he is able to levitate stuff just like a super-powerful mag-lev train.

right but the only magnetic fields strong enough to be felt are ferromagnetic so urgh why am I even wasting time thinking about this

The primary application of his power is control over magnetism and the manipulation of ferrous and nonferrous metal. While the maximum amount of mass he can manipulate at one time is unknown, he has moved large asteroids several times and effortlessly levitated a 30,000 ton nuclear submarine. His powers extend into the subatomic level (insofar as the electromagnetic force is responsible for chemical bonding), allowing him to manipulate chemical structures and rearrange matter, although this is often a strenuous task. He can manipulate a large number of individual objects simultaneously and has assembled complex machinery with his powers. He can also affect non-metallic and non-magnetic objects to a lesser extent and frequently levitates himself and others. He can also generate electromagnetic pulses of great strength and generate and manipulate electromagnetic energy down to photons. He can turn invisible by warping visible light around his body.[93] Another way in which Magneto frequently uses his power is the projection of force-fields which selectively block out matter and energy. These fields are strong enough to withstand the detonation of multiple thermonuclear weapons, hence Magneto is invulnerable to most harm when surrounded by his shield and can survive in deep space thanks to it. He can also channel his powers through his own body to increase his strength and durability far beyond human limits and has a baseline reaction time 15 times as short as that of regular humans. On occasion he has altered the behavior of gravitational fields around him, which has been suggested as evidence of the existence of a unified field which he can manipulate. He has demonstrated the capacity to produce a wormhole and to safely teleport himself and others via the wormhole.

one thing i didnt buy in the movie was him sneaking metal into the sentinels and reprogramming them with it, for one how did he even see what was inside them

they weren't reprogrammed (they still have the 'kill all mutants' directive); they were restrained with the metal cords. magneto probably 'sees' with the metal stuff the same way a plumber 'sees' with a snake. what didn't make sense was why the 70s sentinels looked like ipods, when they should have looked like getter robo or mazinger or something.

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they weren't reprogrammed (they still have the 'kill all mutants' directive); they were restrained with the metal cords. magneto probably 'sees' with the metal stuff the same way a plumber 'sees' with a snake. what didn't make sense was why the 70s sentinels looked like ipods, when they should have looked like getter robo or mazinger or something.

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:24 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the movie seemed to waffle a bit on whether they were being physically restrained or "mentally" controlled. they never seem to like, chafe against their bonds

That was very silly, but I just went along with it. They did bother to have a scene where he's magnetically stitching himself up while examining the blueprints for the robots, so I guess he could've figured out how to mess with their programming. But yeaahhh it's a stretch.

like didn't he make them shoot at people?

Yup!

...sorta, mostly they blew up cop cars.

its also sort of implied that he gets them to target the other guys

the actual thing i had a hard time getting over in this movie was him just deciding to kill mystique, i didnt buy that as a thing magneto would do. also it makes no sense because in the original timeline she's killed anyway.

no, she survives, they just captured her and got her DNA (remember that in that timeline X-Men 1/2/3 still happen) but she presumably escapes later. it still takes them 50-60 years to get decent Sentinels apparently, but I guess they did have one in the Danger Room sequence in X3

Magneto has been painted a true genocidal maniac in these movies so his SUDDEN AND INEVITABLE BETRAYAL was unsurprising. also the gun flipping into his hand was pretty boss.

why did they let him shave? shouldn't he have had a crazy 70s manson beard in no-metal including no-razors jail?

iirc, in X3 he totally drops her like a bad habit when she gets the mutant cure

lol must've been some kinda new-fangled, space-age plastic tech

i always magneto had like, an "honour among mutants who are on my side" thing going on, plus an actual tender relaysh with mystique

why did they let him shave? shouldn't he have had a crazy 70s manson beard in no-metal including no-razors jail?

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:23 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haa

The primary application of his power is control over magnetism and the manipulation of ferrous and nonferrous metal. While the maximum amount of mass he can manipulate at one time is unknown, he has moved large asteroids several times and effortlessly levitated a 30,000 ton nuclear submarine. His powers extend into the subatomic level (insofar as the electromagnetic force is responsible for chemical bonding), allowing him to manipulate chemical structures and rearrange matter, although this is often a strenuous task. He can manipulate a large number of individual objects simultaneously and has assembled complex machinery with his powers. He can also affect non-metallic and non-magnetic objects to a lesser extent and frequently levitates himself and others. He can also generate electromagnetic pulses of great strength and generate and manipulate electromagnetic energy down to photons. He can turn invisible by warping visible light around his body.[93] Another way in which Magneto frequently uses his power is the projection of force-fields which selectively block out matter and energy. These fields are strong enough to withstand the detonation of multiple thermonuclear weapons, hence Magneto is invulnerable to most harm when surrounded by his shield and can survive in deep space thanks to it. He can also channel his powers through his own body to increase his strength and durability far beyond human limits and has a baseline reaction time 15 times as short as that of regular humans. On occasion he has altered the behavior of gravitational fields around him, which has been suggested as evidence of the existence of a unified field which he can manipulate. He has demonstrated the capacity to produce a wormhole and to safely teleport himself and others via the wormhole

and also he's able to mentally control his beard growth

there you go

his reasoning DID make sense though - if they could prevent the Sentinel genocide from existing by killing Mystique, it's totally worth doing, especially to someone as kill-happy as Magneto

Saw this this morning, was OK. Pretty ugly to look at and took a while to get going, but worked out in the end. Felt nice and self-contained, ie, very two issue narrative arc. Love how (and this is true in the comics) that certain mutants, even those with seemingly mundane powers, can be written into being basically all-powerful, not just the likes of life stadiums while he's controlling killer robots Magneto or Prof X or Jean Grae but but also Kitty Pryde or Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver or whomever. Quicksilver bits and 3D teleporting stuff the best in here. Meeting of the generations was a little weird, Wolverine looked like he was hanging with kids. Surprisingly violent for a PG-13. Lots of impaling.

I saw a 10:30 screening, and within one minute in a theater with six people in it there was a fight and they had to have a cop escort a woman out. Pretty sure it was cell phone related, and not related to arguing about the space-time continuum.

that reminds me, the Blink power / Portal-ripoff action was pretty well done

getting to see Famke Janssen at the end was yayyyyyyyyy

You also got to see her stabbed by Hugh Jackman.

I see what you did there.

Is this the first Marvel film with a naked man's ass in it

silver surfer was ass all over the place.

Hugh Ass.

The jokes write themselves.

This was the first 3d movie I have seen, it felt like sensory torture and I felt like a heart attack was imminent.

A good compromise would be to see it in 2D and throw things at the screen.

3d movies are fucking garbage

best 3-d movie i ever saw was the first fifteen minutes of gravity
worst 3-d movie i ever saw was the rest of gravity

i pretty much only see movies in theater if it's imax 3d. 3d part isn't essential really but huge fucking screen is for sure and if it's a movie where huge fucking screen isn't necessary i wait for tv.

Ever since I got my new glasses prescription -- now featuring astigmatism! -- 3d has been really hard for me. I used to enjoy it quite a bit.

i barely noticed the 3d in this. i barely ever notice the 3d.

Did you notice the glasses?

his reasoning DID make sense though - if they could prevent the Sentinel genocide from existing by killing Mystique, it's totally worth doing, especially to someone as kill-happy as Magneto

― Nhex, Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:30 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is magneto supposed to be that impulsive tho, he straight up shot her in public, in a govt office no less, without thinking about how easy it would be for the bad guys to get just what they need

that was dumb

Maybe he was suffering from long-term vitamin d deficiency?

Vitamin D deficiency is known to cause several bone diseases[8] including:

Rickets, a childhood disease characterized by impeded growth, and deformity, of the long bones. The earliest sign of subclinical vitamin D deficiency is Craniotabes, abnormal softening or thinning of the skull.[9]
Osteomalacia, a bone-thinning disorder that occurs exclusively in adults and is characterized by proximal muscle weakness and bone fragility.
Osteoporosis, a condition characterized by reduced bone mineral density and increased bone fragility.
Muscle aches and weakness (in particular proximal limb girdle)[6]
Muscle twitching (Fasciculations)[citation needed]

so maybe he was just very achey?

actually, calcium is a metal, so maybe he could just strengthen himself that way.

why did they let him shave? shouldn't he have had a crazy 70s manson beard in no-metal including no-razors jail?

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:23 PM (4 minutes ago)

The writer actually answered this in an interview. He said someone comes in each week with a plastic razor and shaves him.

WPA jobs, man

Loved how they worked in Kelsey Grammer Beast just randomly walking down a hall, saying hello.

The plot is just Terminator 2 which I am fine with. They even had the time traveler wake up nude!

Regarding Magneto's levitation abilities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vyB-O5i6E

Enjoyed this, thought the slightly ponderous dialogue scenes had some of the same flavour as prime Claremont/Byrne handwringing - and the predominance of Brit actors in the main parts started to feel like a nod to Byrne and Claremont's anglophile roots.

Thought this was terrible. First X-Men I've seen (accompanied a friend) but even allowing for that it lost me v quickly.

yeah for some reason i think x-men 5 aka Wolverine 6 (now with time travel) is not the one to make your first

i mean fast five was my first fast & furious but if the plot was paul walker going back in time to meet the cast of tokyo drift it wouldn't have been

Loved this. Couldn't give a shit about continuity with the other movies. The Quicksilver set-piece and the Zapruder-style footage of Magneto and Raven fighting are the kind of flourishes that superhero movies need more of. Strong performances too - pretty sweet that they have actors as good as McAvoy, Fassbender and Lawrence for the central not-quite-love triangle.

^ Could you go express that opinion over on the Star Wars 7 thread?

but perhaps suit up in some body armor beforehand, just for kicks

i mean fast five was my first fast & furious but if the plot was paul walker going back in time to meet the cast of tokyo drift it wouldn't have been

tokyo drift is set after fast five fyi

#fastandfurioustimelinepolice

it is? i thought the main character from that died in one of the later Fasts

Just watched this, did not do the comic justice IMO.

Why did Mystique shoot Magneto, though? Was she just getting even with him?

gave her the stinkeye iirc

he tried to kill her and she felt betrayed

made less sense that he shot HER tbh

The plot is just Terminator 2 which I am fine with. They even had the time traveler wake up nude!

Haha, yes!

Wished the future-set scenes, and numerous other conspicuous FX sequences, weren't so butt-ugly. Like, even when I'm watching this at home in two dimensions, I know that I'm watching something that was made for 3D.

The Terminator came out after the original story though! Cameron might've got the idea from Claremont and Byrne for all we know.

Not the nude part though, actually, n/m

http://www.jamescamerononline.com/Ellison.htm

Maisie Williams was just cast as Wolfsbane in the upcoming New Mutants movie (which I somehow only heard about for the first time this week). That might be the most perfectly spot-on X-Men casting decision since Kelsey Grammer's brief tenure as Beast.

oh hell yeah

And as a huge X-Men fan can I just say, as it sounds like they're going with the old school roster, that I'm 1000000000x more excited about a New Mutants movie than I have been about any of the X-Men movies. Seriously, if Warlock is in this thing I might pretty much just die.

my greatest wish for this is that maisie williams plays rahne with the same godawful scottish accent that claremont used to write for her

Och, ye cannae wish for any sooch thing, wee bairn!

this is maisie williams' big chance to carve out a space as the james doohan of the x-men franchise

i've lived in scotland for 36 years and i've yet to meet anyone who has this accent

http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/wolfsbane060109.jpg

"mysel'"

if Shipp is in this, does that mean it's gonna take place in 1988 or thereabouts?
also i'll crack up if they bring in Cable to connect this to Deadpool 2

Well, I guess they're also making an X-Force movie in the wake of Deadpool's massive success? I assume the X-Force and New Mutants films are separate things, anyway.

Och, ye cannae wish for any sooch thing, wee bairn!

ahahaa i was seriously about to type "och, th' poor wee lonely bairns," which iirc is re: the life of young techno-organic entities on warlock's planet

Dos vedanya, mein freund.

i feel like we should poll claremont's x-men accents

hahahaha. generic southern one (texas, mississippi, gyawgyah, whatever) is the greatest imho.

mais non ma chere, it's surely ragin' cajun

Gombeet, ze Rayzhon Cayzhon, aw haw haw, mes amis.

possibly Claremont's worst writing trait

altho for some reason I like it when Dave Sim did it

My Batroc-ization of Gambit's dialogue is a reminder that Claremont's accents could be seen as relatively restrained in comparison to those employed elsewhere in the Marvel universe.

Well, I guess they're also making an X-Force movie in the wake of Deadpool's massive success? I assume the X-Force and New Mutants films are separate things, anyway.

I am purposely avoiding searching out more info on this X-Force movie so as to keep alive the hope that this is the Milligan version.

I will do all that I can to avoid dashing your hopes on the proverbial rocks, tovarisch.

Maisie Williams as Wolfsbane has been debunked by Fox. Should've known it was 2 good 2B true.

ach cannae even

Won't anyone think of the wee bairns

been reading Excalibur on Marvel Unlimited, lots of Claremont-style britishisms

Oh, Excalibur is just the best. Although I honestly hold the Alan Davis solo run in the highest esteem.

what are bairns

baby

children, term used in northern england and most of scotland

Hmm...not sure. We know that they're wee, and occasionally puir, and that their plight sometimes induces an 'och!' in passersby. Beyond that, it's anybody's guess, ye great bloody spaleen.

$250, same as downtown

xp oh ok. so it is a real word and not just something Claremont made up

Claremont would never, you take that back.

Does "bairn" come from Scandinavian languages? The Swedish word for "kid" is "barn".

It does indeed.

new meaning to "couldn't hit the broad side of a barn"