Dead Pool 2013

Let's do this.

Rules are generally the same as in previous years.

Post in this thread a list of 15 celebrities or other notable people. If you'd rather e-mail me, that's fine, but please post in the thread that you've done so, just so I can keep track.

I'm not going to be a total stickler about notability requirements, but please try to be reasonable. I'd rather not allow someone without, for instance, a Wikipedia entry. On a related note, if a Wikipedia search on one of your picks directs to a disambiguation page or to someone else with the same name, please indicate which one you mean by appending the person's profession in parentheses, e.g. "(actress)" or "(football player)."

As usual, points are awarded based on the formula (100 - [age at death]). So picking Quvenzhané_Wallis (age 9) would get you a lot more points than picking Zsa Zsa Gabor (age 95), were both to die.

Please post your lists to this thread by January 9. No lists will be accepted after that date. If someone dies before Jan. 9, only the people who have already submitted lists will be able to collect points. You may also revise your list at any time before Jan. 9; after that, you'll be locked in.

Lastly, I will be posting everybody's final picks to this Google spreadsheet and also updating the leaderboard there as the year goes on.

(Feel free, of course, to bump this thread and alert me if I've missed an update. Deaths of British/Australian celebs in particular often pass me by.)

Good luck!

So, the celebs/notable people to be blessed with good and robust health this year are to be:

Jim Moir/Vic Reeves
Valerie Singleton
Naomi Campbell
Arsene Wenger
Keith Richards
Jimmy Tarbuck
Cliff Richard
Gregg James
Barry Norman
Craig Charles
Kate Middleton's unborn (controv!)
Nick Lowe
Eric Pickles
Pudsey the dog
Boy George
Prince Philip

(ok, maybe the dog doesn't count)

Bashar al-Assad
George Bush Sr.
Mohamed Morsi
Billy Graham
Hugo Chavez
Hosni Mubarak
Khaled Meshaal
Fidel Castro
Margaret Thatcher
Ariel Sharon
François Bozizé
Cheick Modibo Diarra
Ramadan Shalah
Jiang Zemin
Bosco Ntaganda

I'm sorry, can I replace Billy Graham with Nasir al-Wuhayshi?

(ok, maybe the dog doesn't count)

I actually deleted the "Humans only" rule this year but only b/c I figured it no longer needed to be explicitly stated. But, well, I guess it does.

HUMANS ONLY.

Kate Middleton's unborn (controv!)

I'm also not sure about this one. My inclination is to allow it but only once the child is actually born. That is, no points for a miscarriage or stillbirth.

(that still leaves the door open for abortion!)

*crosses fingers*

hugo chavez
george hw bush
fidel castro
hosni mubarak
nelson mandela
margaret thatcher
artie lange
bashar al-assad
lindsay lohan
klas ingesson
charlie sheen
ratko mladic
aaron carter
kim jong-un
chris brown

who will speak up for the rights of unborn celebs to have wiki pages

xpost that Chris Brown pic is very along the lines of what I was thinking for my controversial pick.

Kenneth Anger
Andy Dick
Roger Ebert
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Prince Harry
Sid Hartman
Garrison Keillor
Nelson Mandela
Hosni Mubarak
Manoel de Oliveira (does that lose me points if it happens? If so, swap for Fidel Castro)
Rihanna
Karl Rove
David Siegel
Carrot Top
Mason Wyler

surely this has to be thatchers year ...

Manoel de Oliveira (does that lose me points if it happens? If so, swap for Fidel Castro)

Well, it certainly wouldn't gain you any points. I'll swap.

last year i actually worked on this and it didn't help so this year i'm going back to half-baked guesses and longshots:

wilford brimley
michael john burkett aka fat mike (of nofx)
seymour cassel
krs-one
exene cervenka
magic johnson
ronnie spector
phil spector
gene hackman
mick mars
william 'refrigerator' perry
thomas pynchon
nick stahl
nelson mandela
barry bonds

I'm gonna do exactly the same one as last year minus phyllis diller

Lindsey Lohan
Fidel Castro
Gary Busey
Ai Wei Wei
Chuck Berry
Bob Dole
Muhammad Ali
Jerry Lee Lewis
Lauren Bacall
Steve-O
Barbara Bush
Nancy Reagan
Justice John Paul Stevens
John Larroquette
Chris Brown

and again, i hope i'm wrong for almost everyone on that list

Margaret Thatcher
Norman Tebbit
Fidel Castro
Robert Mugabe
Howard Henry Baker
Phylis Schlafly
Bashar al-Assad
Gary Glitter
Hugo Chavez
Omar Abdel-Rahman
Adam Yahiye Gadahn
Eduardo Ravelo
Chris Brown
Jim Davidson
Ian Watkins

I hope I'm right for pretty much everyone on my list.

Based roughly on last year's lot:

Paul Gascoigne
Muhammed Ali
Margaret Thatcher
Liz Dawn
Ian Brady
Ian Huntley
Doris Day
Glen Campbell
Rolf Harris
Terry Pratchett
Julian Assange
Edward Furlong
Sandy Jardine
Hillary Clinton
Clive James

Kate Middleton's unborn

if the "person" isn't even born by the stated close of submissions, then it should not be allowed /lapsed catholic

Hosni Mubarak
Jalal Talabani
Van Cliburn
John Edrich
"Superstar" Billy Graham
Bonnie Franklin
Gallagher
Dennis "Fergie" Frederiksen
Anne Feeney
Hugo Chávez
Joseph Kony
Draco Rosa
Ethan Zohn
Rick Ross
Hayley Okines

Vicente Zambada
Charles Manson
Suri Cruise
Robert Iler
Louis Farrakahn
Hillary Clinton :-(
Robert Mugabe
John McAffee
Macauley Culkin
Tao Lin
Lil Reese
Judge Reinhold
John Edwards
Charlie Sheen
Sam Shepard

somebody with a name in the chicago scene seeming unpleasantly likely

Tempted to play a wishful thinking list but it always makes me feel faintly guilty, this game.

Last year I got really into researching people in poor health, and half my ballot was names I hadn't previously known. State senators and local musicians and other folks just barely famous enough to have a Wikipedia page. I won't do it again, though -- it made me feel queasier than just going with my usual crop of celebs and world leaders.

Russell Howard
Russell Kane
John Bishop
Mark Watson
Micky Flanagan
Greg Davies
Sarah Millican
Rhod Gilbert
Jack Whitehall
Kevin Bridges
+
Margaret Thatcher
George Osborne
David Cameron
George W Bush
Donald Rumsfeld

I just want Fred Phelps listed by someone. Die, fucker.

i tried to stick w/ ppl that i'd be happy if they died

Jay Adams
Stephen Adler
Rodney Bingenheimer
Seymour Cassel
David Crosby
John Densmore
Perry Farrell
Kim Fowley
David Geffen
Lindsay Lohan
Courtney Love
Charles Manson
Mick Mars
Charlie Sheen
Stephen Speilberg

oh weird, nick. I didn't come up with Seymour Cassel by looking at your list. I was trying to come up with a list of strictly L.A. names and was like "who was the old guy that Slash used to party with before he was in Guns 'n' Roses?"

Basher al-Assad
Benedict XVI
Barbara Bush
George HW Bush
Fidel Castro
Dick Cheney
Bob Dylan
James Eagan Holmes
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Lindsay Lohan
Courtney Love
Nelson Mandela
Hosni Mubarak
Jerry Sandusky
Margaret Thatcher

George Herbert Walker Bush
Hilary Clinton
Fidel Castro
Hugo Chavez
Margaret Thatcher
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Nelson Mandela
Bob Dole
Billy Graham
Gene Hackman
Nancy Reagan
Mike Ditka
Billie Joe Armstrong
Michael "The Situation" Sorrentino
Don Johnson

Could only muster people I wouldn't feel entirely guilty about after.

Margaret Thatcher
Hosni Mubarak
Fidel Castro
George H.W. Bush
Rob Ford (Toronto Mayor)
Dick Cheney
Donald Rumsfeld
Pope Benedict
Stephen Harper
David Cameron
George Osborne
David Koch
George Koch
Donald Trump
Rudy Giuliani

William "Refrigerator" Perry
Shirley Temple
Michael Douglas
Hugo Chavez
Quentin Tarantino
George H W Bush
Ginger Baker
Lindsay Lohan
Edward Furlong
Ariel Sharon
Eddie Van Halen
Dave Swarbrick
Kim Novak
Asma al-Assad
Red Grooms

QT?!, our ni**a, dead?

I had more family deaths last year, and I don't want to offend my family, so I'm staying out of this much loved game this year. You guys are being tasteful though (old people, drug abusers, dictators)...

my only real criteria this year was "prominent residents of l.a." I don't wish death on any of them. I hope to not even place this year. I specifically didn't go hunting for cancer patients this year. maybe all the dead pool spirit has gone out of me. but I'm still compelled to play.

jaymc, I did notice that Speilberg spells his first name "Steven".

hugo chavez
george h w bush
jimmy carter
fidel castro
kirk douglas
fred phelps
willy mays
robert mugabe
Bashar al-Assad
asma al assad
nelson mandela
nelson mandela
Refridgerator Perry
Maggie Thatcher
Buzz Aldrin

going for the double nelson?

Can I switch my Fidel Castro to Karl Rove and my Mubarak to John McCain? At this point I'm more interested in going for long-shot wishful thinking.

can you remind me what is the website that play this game?

got it:
http://deadpool.rotten.com/

Hugh Hefner
Kim Kardashian
Roman Abramovich (Russian billionaire)
charlie Sheen
Ronnie Wood
Nick Stahl
Courtney Love
Chris Brown (wifebeater)
Wissam Al Mana (Qatari billionaire)
Queen Elizabeth II
Julian Schnabel
A.J. McLean
Stephen Spielberg
Joseph Kony
Seth Rogen

Mark - DOUBLE UP

also stiffs.com -- http://stiffs.com/stats/?gameid=51&all=1

you could have been rich, abanana! (or are you?)

First Place = $3000.00
2nd Place = $500.00
3rd Place = $200.00
4th Place = $100.00
5th Place = $50.00
6th Place = $25.00

No, I don't enter it, the payoff is much smaller than the money they take in. I would have been somewhere in the 80s with my unpaid list.

bashar al assad
fidel castro
hosney mubarak
hugo chavez
george martin
gunter grass
lou reed
nelson mandela
clint eastwood
huge hefner
roger ebert
gabriel garcia marquez
jean luc godard
Jacques Rivette
macaulay culkin

Hugo Chavez
Fidel Castro
George Michael
James Garner
Anita Ekberg
Kenneth Anger
Scott Carpenter
Lindsay Lohan
Jack T. Chick
Lyndon LaRouche
Glen Campbell
Margaret Thatcher
Annette Funicello
Steve Ditko
Tony Iommi

Chasey Lain
Lindsay Lohan
Muhammad Ali
Ricardo Mayorga
Nick Stahl
Hugo Chavez
Lyndon LaRouche
Roger Ebert
Jerry Sandusky
Joe Rogan

oh sorry 5 more:
Bubba the Love Sponge
Tanner Mayes
Robin Roberts
Brock Lesnar
Artie Lange

i would never pick her bc i'd feel bad if it happened, but Malala Yousafzai seems like a good pick

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
Tito Vilanova
Fabrice Muamba
Michael J Fox
Ozzy Osbourne
Jim Davidson (Comedian)
Holly Johnson
Paul Gascoigne
Charlie Sheen
Reg Presley
Rihanna
Hulk Hogan
Jeremy Clarkson
Clive James
Axl Rose

Hugo Chavez
Kirk Douglas
Prince Philip
Mikhail Kalashnikov
Lindsey Lohan
Frankie Muniz
Margaret Thatcher
George H.W. "Poppy" Bush
Artie Lange
P.D. James
Bob Dole
Doris Day
Kenneth Anger
Pete Seeger
Billy Graham

bashar al-assad
dennis rodman
paul williams (boxer)
g. hw bush
pat summerall
john madden
pat summitt
joseph kony
trick daddy
john cleese
gallagher
robin roberts
harry dean stanton
sally jesse raphael
michael douglas

Michael Douglas
Dennis "Fergie" Frederiksen
Pope Benedict XVI
Annette Funicello
Elie Wiesel
Bashar al-Assad
Asma al-Assad
Hugo Chavez
Macauley Culkin
Ai Weiwei
Prince Phillip
Nick Stahl
John Glenn
Bernadette Nolan
Margaret Thatcher

George HW Bush
Maggie Thatcher
Nelson Mandela
Hugo Chavez
Prince Phillip
==
Tito Vilanova
Alisher Usmanov
Basher al-Assad
Superstar Billy Graham
Barry Windham
==
Bobby Heenan
Kamala (real name James Harris)
Dynamite Kid (real name Thomas Billington)
The Iron Sheik
Scott Hall

Deadline for lists is today! I'll accept them until midnight CST.

George "41" Bush
Hugo Chavez
Billy Graham
Bob Newhart
Mickey Rooney
Frankie Muniz
George Wendt
Ralph Wilson (Buffalo Bills owner)
William Clay Ford Sr. (Detroit Lions owner)
Jimmy "39" Carter
George Jones
Glen Campbell
Dean Stockwell
Little Richard
B.B. King

man i do not get guilt about this game and i'm not someone who gets emotionally affected by celebrity deaths but i don't think i could ever put bob newhart on my dead pool list

so if he dies i am blaming you

George H W Bush
Margaret Thatcher
Prince Philip
Stuart Hall
Lindsey Lohan
Ian Huntley
Cliff Richard
Max Clifford
Hugo Chavez
Gary Glitter
Rupert Murdoch
Andy Coulson
Harry Styles
Mark Owen
Courtney Love

jaymc, i would like to substitute Chris Brown for Perry Farrell in my list.

something we should know?

Six hours to turn in ballots.

(I'll post mine before then.)

George H.W. Bush
Hugo Chavez
Alberto Fujimori
Chief Keef
LeAnn Rimes
Hosni Mubarak
Jerry Lewis
Louis Farrakhan
Merle Haggard
Loretta Lynn
Don Zimmer
Harold Bloom
Jackie Mason
Wilko Johnson
Jesse Jackson, Jr.

replace John Edrich with Wilko Johnson in my entry please

if it's too late that's fine

Jesse Jackson, Jr.

Good one.

I'll allow it, abanana, but only b/c I posted my own list two minutes after the deadline.

nah it's ok, you didn't have to put your list on the thread anyway.

Ha, so you only wanted to switch in Johnson b/c you saw him on mine?

Looks like only half of 2012's top 10 finishers are playing this year. Should make for an interesting competition.

No one swapping in Lohan (or Ellis or Schrader) after that article?

I'll try to get the spreadsheet filled in this weekend, btw.

dont u mean... the deadsheet

You're right, I do.

OKAY I HAVE QUESTIONS!

Mark G:

1. By "Gregg James," do you mean one of these people?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_James ... If so, which one?
2. My final opinion is that the royal fetus is a no-go. Would you like to pick a replacement?

Eric H.:

1. I assume by "David Siegel" you mean the dude from Queen of Versailles? Please confirm.

More to come...

Oh hai.. Radio 1 dj then, and I'm not going Wilko because as far as I can believe, saying someone is terminal is the same as saying they are dead actually..

Anyways, will choose Alan Vega.

Got it, thanks!

Yep, that guy.

OK.

Billy Dods:

Please identify which Jim Davidson and which Ian Watkins you mean.

Merdeyeux:

1. I assume by "John Bishop" you mean this one?
2. Are you planning on bombing the Edinburgh Fringe Fest?

1. that's the one.
2. i'm a passive but hopeful deadpooler.

It could be..

Ian "H" Watkins (born 8 May 1976) is a Welsh singer, actor and dancer. He is four of the five members of the British pop group Steps and is somewhat of an enigma. He has said that "H" stands for "heroic", describing his ability to get out of bed every day knowing full well that he will still be Ian "H" Watkins. Controversial sources claim that the 'H' actually stands for 'Hyperactive', however recent events in the House Of Commons resulted in a law banning speculation on the true meaning behind the conspicuous initial.

Or the Lostprophets bloke...

Anyone have Michael winner?

Formerly EDB picked the wrong Koches.

Btw, I have been woefully behind in terms of getting everyone's picks on the spreadsheet, but I'm hoping to do it in the next couple of days. Please excuse my negligence.

Formerly EDB picked the wrong Koches.

Kochs, rather. (Different pronunciation, IIRC.)

Although speaking of which, ed.b: For "George Koch," did you mean Charles Koch (David's brother) or Georg Koch?

Köche.

kraudive:

Which Stuart Hall did you intend to pick?

The British tv personality.

Got it, thanks.

Just saw this thread, Jim Davidson is the British 'comedian' and Ian Watkins is the Lostprophets singer and all round nice guy.

I thought you meant H from Steps...

No, tried to pick only scumbag and people who won't be mised on my list. For all H's crimes against music, he seems a fairly harmless lovable guy. In fact didn't even know that was his real name.

Kind of eerie -- as soon as I finally get everything input, we have our first death of the year.

With the passing of Reg Presley, Onimo takes the lead with 29 points.

Some stats, btw:

NUMBER OF PLAYERS: 29

MOST PICKED:

(16) Hugo Chavez
(14) Maggie Thatcher
(13) George H. W. Bush
(10) Fidel Castro
(9) Bashar Assad, Lindsay Lohan
(8) Nelson Mandela
(7) Hosni Mubarak
(5) Chris Brown, Prince Philip, Charlie Sheen
(4) Courtney Love, Nick Stahl

That's right, the top 8 picks are all current or former world leaders, with one exception: Lindsay Lohan.

Also, this year I decided to add birth years to the spreadsheet.

OLDEST PICKS:

(1916) Kirk Douglas
(1917) Zsa Zsa Gabor
(1918) Billy Graham, Nelson Mandela, Ralph Wilson

YOUNGEST PICKS:

(2006) Suri Cruise
(1997) Hayley Okines
(1995) Chief Keef
(1994) Harry Styles
(1993) Lil Reese

And difference in # of picks between 2012 and '13*:

BIGGEST RISE:

Hugo Chavez (+14)
George H.W. Bush (+10)
Nelson Mandela (+5)
Chris Brown (+4)
Nick Stahl (+4)

BIGGEST DROP (among those still alive):

Pete Doherty (-7)
Terry Pratchett (-7)
Muhammad Ali (-5)
Fidel Castro (-5)
Aretha Franklin (-4)
Margaret Thatcher (-4)
Artie Lange (-4)
Dick Cheney (-4)
George Michael (-4)

*There are nine fewer Dead Pool entrants this year than last. Bearing that in mind, however, only Thatcher's drop can be explained as the mere result of the decrease in players. That is, the % decrease in the number of players who picked Thatcher is roughly the same as the % decrease in the total number of players. All others on the "Biggest Drop" list decreased by a greater percentage.

This didn't feel creepy until now.

lol I am usu. creeped out a little but jaymc's stats are too fun to ignore imo

I've actually felt pretty creeped out with myself for submitting a list this year. Don't know why I feel different about it than in years previous.

I kinda want jaymc to achieve tv pundit level fame as the nate silver of internet death pools

haha that would be a morbid but pretty sweet gig.

whats the prize for the winner?

BIGGEST DROP (among those still alive):

Muhammad Ali

might eventually be a mistake

have never understood how this game is creepy
maybe i'm a creep

I never thought it was creepy or morbid, I just quit playing because I was so bad at it.

I never participate in games like these because it feels wrong to be happy that someone died, which means I can only vote for people I hate and myself

sounds like your problem is that you don't hate enough ppl

if someone you like dies, you can feel sad about it but then your dead pool points are like a little consolation prize

I felt sad about Reg Presley but 29 points is not to be sniffed at.

Van Cliburn and Bonnie Franklin both died. I'm surprised nobody else picked them.

I made an error ditching Mindy McCready this year.

xp Got 'em -- you're now in the lead.

Hey jaymc, could you remove me from the spreadsheet for this year? It's giving me an unhappy feeling this year.

this year this year

Sure.

"How's Life, you were supposed to be on that list! You're going to have to face that Final Destination eventually!"

Thanks Jaymc.

100% guarantee that everyone on how's life's list will die at some point in time. :''(

They're probably all gonna die in the next 8 months now!

CHAVEZ

did i put him on my list this year? let's see..

Boom.

did abanana won the 2012 dead pool?

it's getting suspicious...lol

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/big-dancing-banana-smiley-emoticon.gif http://www.nonstopgifs.com/animated-gifs/halloween/halloween-animated-gif-005.gif http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/big-dancing-banana-smiley-emoticon.gif

cancer, cancer, cancer.

15-way tie for 2nd.

how did it not occur to me to list this dude

http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/01/shain-gandee-buckwild-dead-dies-mtv-star/

Roger Ebert
RIP

didn't pick him here, but i'm now first in another dead pool

Now updated. Matt Armstrong and nostormo move into a tie for 2nd.

bump!

suggest triple points for anybody who backed this pig

Rollover points for each year we've been backing her.

Now updated. (I think this is the first year in several that I *didn't* pick her.)

as if today wasn't wonderful enough already. :')

it's like when they told you frozen yogurt was also fat-free and everything

And now updated for Annette Funicello as well.

Here's the top of the leaderboard:

1. abanana (Cliburn, Franklin, Chavez)
2. Elvis Telecom (Chavez, Thatcher, Funicello
--. kate78 (")
4. Matt Armstrong (Chavez, Ebert)
--. nostormo (")

(Then a bunch of people tied for 6th with the Hugo/Maggie twofer.)

I hope you know, I only did not add Thatcher to my list this year as it seems that everyone I put on my list last year, survived...

RIP Pat Summerall; welcome to the leaderboard, johnny crunch.

aw, i'm unhappy to hear that

oh wait, i thought you meant pat summitt.

Let the record show that I waited a week before bumping.

Bernadette Nolan RIP

Thought I should check in on this thread. Points added for pplains and kate78, who is now in the lead.

I don't see any other obvious ones I've missed, but do let me know if I have. (I think I'll bookmark this thread.)

RIP lou reed

WINNER!!!

Got it -- movin' on up!

Anyone have Peter O' Toole?

I need a revised score too (had Scott Carpenter)

I see my list of people who will have good health and survive has bode well for Alan Vega, Valerie Singleton et al.

Now updated for Mandela and Carpenter.

No one had O'Toole or Fontaine. Was surprised that ailsa didn't have Ronnie Biggs.

I was surprised too! I've had him a few times in the past. I think at the time I forgot he didn't actually die at any time after he was released from jail four years ago to die at home (my reason for keeping included Al Megrahi)

Barring any last-minute surprises, the final standings for 2013 appear to be set:

1. kate78 (133 points: Hugo Chavez, Margaret Thatcher, Annette Funicello, Bernadette Nolan)
2. nostormo (106: Chavez, Roger Ebert, Lou Reed, Nelson Mandela)
3. Elvis Telecom (97: Chavez, Thatcher, Funicello, Scott Carpenter)
4. abanana (95: Van Cliburn, Bonnie Franklin, Chavez)
5. Matt Armstrong (72: Chavez, Ebert)

Congrats to kate78!

Btw, I've decided not to run an ILX Dead Pool for 2014, though if anyone else would like to take over, I'll gladly participate.

Betty Davis lives another year. In other news: Lyndon LaRouche will never die.

And all my guesses had a healthy year.

Did not nom Thatcher for that very reason.

Jack T. Chick will never die either.

Congrats kate78!

I take solace in winning real world money this year.

lotta survivors this year

Bump for the hungover.

If no other volunteers step forward, I'll do it this year.

I volunteered by private message, but you go ahead.

can i kill someone in order to win?

(it's my 2nd place frustration)

Up to you, abanana, if you're happy to do it, be my guest!

is Ariel Sharon a sure bet now?

Very likely. Enter before he dies!
Dead Pool 2014

I am here to gloat and revel in my win! Gloat and revel! Good luck in 2014, everyone!