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Just in time for the summer - the ultimate comic strip poll! You can nominate anything that is published more frequently than once a month (so no comic books) in a serialized manner. Fair game are webcomics (Penny Arcade, Dykes to Watch Out For), traditional newspaper strips (Hagar the Horrible, Doonesbury), experimental tumblr/blog serialized stuff (Hark! A Vagrant, Girl Mountain), anything else that seems to fit this rubric. I'll let nominations run until July 5th, then voting until July 31st and I'll do the rollout/results in August. Nominations don't have to be ongoing but can be retired (Little Nemo, Krazy Kat), single or three panels okay despite the thread title (Far Side, Lockhorns). Irregularly published comics that are still in serial ongoing form (Achewood, PBF) are also allowed. I'm flexible about the restrictions, I just want to make sure Marvel/DC/indie graphic novel stuff isn't included.
Feel free to also use this thread to link to collections, or to post individual strips to champion. I hope I'm not forgetting anything. Nominate away!
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)
can we only vote for things that are nominated? wondering if I post a list of really obvious stuff or not.
― Romantic style in da world (crüt), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:59 (twelve years ago)
I'll accept any ballot, but feel free to nominate obvious stuff too just in case they get left out.
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 15:00 (twelve years ago)
The Upside-Downs of Little Lady Lovekins and Old Man Muffarroo
― Romantic style in da world (crüt), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)
Sam's Strip
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:05 (twelve years ago)
Barnaby!
First volume of the Fantagraphics reprint is finally out:
http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&category=Barnaby&Itemid=113
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:09 (twelve years ago)
2 webcomics:
Bad Machinery (/giant days/scary go round/bobbins) http://www.scarygoround.comOctopus Pie http://www.octopuspie.com
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)
thank you for loving Pupkin
― you live your life on the floor (sleepingbag), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)
Krazy Kat better win this
― WilliamC, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)
I'll make the Hark! A Vagrant nomination official. Kate Beaton is probably my favorite new cartoonist of the century.
http://harkavagrant.com/
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)
WilliamC OTM.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)
Dick TracyPopeyeAl Jaffee's Tall TakesLi'l AbnerLittle Orphan AnnieThe LockhornsBeetle BaileyNANCY
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:24 (twelve years ago)
PeanutsBloom CountyCalvin & HobbesThe Boondocks
you know, just in case someone forgot one of these existed
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:25 (twelve years ago)
I will admit to having a soft spot for CURTIS.
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:26 (twelve years ago)
me too.
― Romantic style in da world (crüt), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)
Little Nemo in SlumberlandDreams of the Rarebit Fiend (creepy creepy!)
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)
http://coopcatalyst.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/igopogo.jpg
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:29 (twelve years ago)
Sluggy FreelanceZippyBlondieHi and LoisAndy CappHagar the HorribleCurtisMother Goose and GrimmSally ForthFunky WinkerbeanDoonesburyFoxtrotFor Better or For WorseTank McNamara
lol xposts to the CURTIS LOVEFEST
― DJP, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:30 (twelve years ago)
Nancy is so great.
Bad Machinery (webcomic)Scary-Go-Round (webcomic)Giant Days (webcomic) (can you tell I'm a John Allison fan?)Cul de Sac (newspaper strip, Richard Thompson)Captain Easy Wash TubbsBuz Sawyer (can you tell I'm a Roy Crane fan?)Krazy Kat
will add more when I have time
― WilliamC, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)
Popeye
Thimble Theatre
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:38 (twelve years ago)
I like '60s-'70s Odd Bodkins, I don't know what it's been like since. I gather he's still producing it?
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:46 (twelve years ago)
Arnold. Only ran in about 50 papers in the mid-80s, and was kind of one-note, but it was a batshit note.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)
Great Pop ThingsDykes to Watch Out For
― one way street, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)
Moomin!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/effgeevee/moomins005.jpg
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)
Julius Knipl, Real Estate PhotographerPogoLeviathanThe Pain - When Will It End?Moon MullinsToonerville FolksFlash GordonThe Kin-der-Kids
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)
xkcd
(*ducks*
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:58 (twelve years ago)
The Perishers by Dodd and CollinsBristow by Frank DickensCarol Day by David WrightGarth by Frank BellamyModesty Blaise by Peter O'Donnell and Jim HoldawayThe Broons by Dudley Watkins
Polly and her Pals by Cliff SterrettTerry and the Pirates by Milton CaniffJohnny Hazard by Frank RobbinsSky Masters by Kirby and WoodTarzan by Burne HogarthFlash Gordon by Alex RaymondB.C. by Johnny HartWhite Boy by Garrett PriceLife is Hell by Matt GroeningErnie Pook's Comeek by Lynda Barry
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:02 (twelve years ago)
kinda late to say this now i guess but we prob should list creators/artists with the strips -- like someone who voted for 'gasoline alley' might want to make it clear that they're voting for frank king's 'gasoline alley' and not that thing that still runs in the papers.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:23 (twelve years ago)
and that goes double for bushmiller's 'nancy,' which for 10 years looked like this:
http://bakertoons.blogspot.com/2012/09/nancy-by-jerry-scott.html
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
Bringing Up Father by George McManusHoward the Duck by Steve Gerber and Gene ColanThe Angriest Dog in the World by David LynchPrince Valiant by Hal Foster
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:27 (twelve years ago)
Mickey Mouse - Floyd Gottfredson
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:29 (twelve years ago)
revised with creators:
Julius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer by Ben KatchorPogo by Walt KellyLeviathan by Peter BlegvadThe Pain - When Will It End? by Tim KreiderMoon Mullins by Frank WillardToonerville Folks by Fontaine FoxFlash Gordon by Alex RaymondThe Kin-der-Kids by Lyonel Feininger
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:40 (twelve years ago)
This is going to be a tough vote. So many of these are wonderful. (Esp. Katchor)
― WilliamC, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:42 (twelve years ago)
Gasoline Alley by Frank KingMafalda by QuinoThe Family Upstairs by George HerrimanSkippy by Percy CrosbyDennis the Menace by Hank Ketcham
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:42 (twelve years ago)
Over the Hedge by Michael Fry & T. LewisRobotman by Jim Meddick (the original 1980s strip, before it was completely retooled as Robotman & Monty, later on just Monty)Menage a 3 by Gisèle Lagacé & David LumsdonThe Adventures of Superhero Girl by Faith Erin Hicks Jeff Hawke by Sydney JordanBucko by Jeff Parker & Erika Moen
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:43 (twelve years ago)
Here's a few Franco-Belgian strips I'm not sure are well-known in the Anglo world, but they're all classic, so they should be included:
Quick & Flupke by HergéLes frustrés by Claire BretécherIdées noires by Andre FranquinGaston by André Franquin
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
Oh yeah, thanks for nomming Mafalda, J.D.! That one'll rate high in my ballot.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:48 (twelve years ago)
The Heart of Juliet Jones by Stan DrakeApartment 3-G by Alex KotskyMary Perkins On Stage by Leonard Starr
- love this fifties/sixties johnstone and cushing affiliated post-raymond realist stuff - part soap opera, part mystery-gothic, all madison avenue fashion decor and props, beautifully observed and penned.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:50 (twelve years ago)
oooh burn
Despite its decade-plus run on the strip, hardly anyone remembers that Jerry Scott worked on this strip.
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)
Fart Party by Julia WertzMagic Whistle by Sam Henderson
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
Cheech Wizard by Vaugh Bode
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)
It's more well-known in collected form, but since it was also serialized first in a French magazine, I'll nominate Asterix by René Goscinny and Albert Uderzo.
― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)
that's really stretching the definition of comic strip and opens a colossal can of froglegs, imho - fabulous tho Asterix is, obv
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 24 June 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)
All the 2000AD stuff technically qualifies but doesn't seem right. Maybe a bit too broad in that case. Or maybe we do want it to be a silly sized scope.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)
it would frogslegs to Gemma Bovery by Posy Simmonds
Tuomas - was "Les frustres" the title of a regular strip or slot by Bretecher? (I only know her from translated collections, obv - Frustrations, More Frustrations, thence Women and other theme-based titles. Great title for an "umbrella" strip though!)
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)
Unlike, which reminds me
Sick Sick Sick by Jules Feiffer
later Feiffer by Jules Feiffer
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:03 (twelve years ago)
There was a Dredd half-page Sunday in the 80s, but the basic unit of 2000AD is the 8-page story or chapter. That's way beyond the scope of "strips".
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:04 (twelve years ago)
length isn't defined in original post, only serialization more than once a month. I agree that aren't right but they do fit the definition.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)
wasn't there a dredd daily back then also? in the daily star iirc.
― sleepingsignal, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:07 (twelve years ago)
Life is Hell by Matt Groening
ward beat me to this nom by an hour but I have fond memories of reading this in the mid to late 80s and being in awe of how funny and right on it was. wish there was some complete collection available.. or is there? not much of it seems to be online. at least it seems like whenever I'm searching for a particular one, I can't find it.
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:07 (twelve years ago)
it's only available in many slim volumes.
― sleepingsignal, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)
Oglaf by Doug Bayne and Trudy Cooper
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)
terr'ble thompson by gene deitch.
― sleepingsignal, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:11 (twelve years ago)
Maakies by Tony Millionaire!
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)
Donald Duck/Scrooge McDuck by Carl Barks
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:13 (twelve years ago)
perry bible fellowship by nicholas gurewitch
― sleepingsignal, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)
Jack Chick tracts
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)
american elf by james kolchalka
― sleepingsignal, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:18 (twelve years ago)
sounds like there are some bigger anthologies - big book of hell, huge book of hell, that are around 170 pages each. according to wiki groening published life is hell through june 16 2012... had no idea it was still going.
some of those will & abe strips in the 90s were hilar
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/Matthoggua/Dimfuture/Monst1002.jpg
http://www.walrusmagazine.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/monsters_large.jpg
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)
barks's donald and scrooge stuff was all for comic books!
the early 'life in hell' holds up but it was pretty bad for the last 10-15 years. groening pretty much stopped coming up with any new ideas and just drew the same two strips over and over again (usually, akbar and jeff dancing, then saying something like 'i regret everything' in the last panel).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)
<3 abe, tho I guess that dude is in his 20s by now
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)
and says less funny stuff
hmm yeah I thought the single page gags would qualify but I guess not
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)
groening was incredibly good at writing from a kid's POV without ever being condescending or forced. the 'childhood is hell' and 'school is hell' collections are still hilarious, especially the ones that verge on the extremely dark, i.e., 'the 16 types of dads' which include everything from lame hawaiian-shirt wearing dad to violent abusive dad to deadbeat dad (a blank panel). the ones where he illustrated his sixth-grade diary were great too.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)
yeah those books are amazing. the 12 types of teachers etc
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)
Where's the one Life in Hell that follows Bongo from cradle to grave, with captions under each panel like "Give up," "You can't win," etc? IIRC it ends with a shot of the grave saying, "See, I told you so" or suchlike.
― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)
al talliaferro did all the donald strips iirc and they are totally worth nominating so i will do that now.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)
Um, how did I not know about Peter Blegvad's other life as a cartoonist? That looks totally great.
― emil.y, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:46 (twelve years ago)
btw, akbar and jeff's tofu hut changed my life.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:46 (twelve years ago)
the blegvad book is amazing and easily available... got it because doug wolk recommended it and his suggestions are basically never wrong with comix
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
Something Positive
― Wide Area Network King (snoball), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)
akbar and jeff's tofu hut
where the elite meet to eat tasty treats
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:50 (twelve years ago)
Eisner's The Spirit may be the most egregious still outstanding necessary addition to the current list.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)
this is a field i fucks with, btw
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:53 (twelve years ago)
Kind of want to vote in this but not sure I'm really well-versed enough. Don't want to skew the results to stuff that maybe isn't actually as good as something I've never heard of.
― emil.y, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:53 (twelve years ago)
I assume everything I care about has been nominated except for:
Death to the Extremist by Michael ZoleA Lesson is Learned but the Damage is Irreversible by Dale and DavidPictures for Sad Children by John Campbell
― the REAL Dr Morbius (silby), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)
emil.y you were a key contributor to the animation poll, plz vote in this
oh also
The Far Side by Gary Larson
― the REAL Dr Morbius (silby), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:57 (twelve years ago)
Tuomas - was "Les frustres" the title of a regular strip or slot by Bretecher?
Actually, I'm not sure... I've always assumed it was, because it's in one-page strip format, but I've only read those collected books too. Does anyone else know?
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)
Marmaduke by Brad Anderson
― the REAL Dr Morbius (silby), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:59 (twelve years ago)
Here's a couple of Disney noms:
Donald Duck by Al Taliaferro and Bob Karp
Mickey Mouse, drawn by Floyd Gottfredson and written by various writers
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
Oh, I see that Mickey Mouse has already been nommed, sorry about that.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:01 (twelve years ago)
Chris Ware's Acme Comic Novelty Library (originally a Chicago broadsheet strip before collected into pamphlets and books) is pretty goddamn important too.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)
I dunno, what's the policy on comics that were serialized, but appeared in multi-page format? Because if those are included, that would mean stuff like Tintin, Asterix, Corto Maltese etc. is valid, and I don't think those count as "comic strips". A lot of classic Franco-Belgian comics originally appeared in serialized form.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:04 (twelve years ago)
Simply because search tells me nobody has yet
Achewood by Chris Onstad
― Clay, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)
i'm kind of opposed to including the spirit -- it was clearly drawn and designed as a comic book and always appeared as a special newspaper supplement, rather than running with the other comics.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:13 (twelve years ago)
oh and Get Your War On by David Rees
― Clay, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
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― PappaWheelie on the zeitgeist (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
marmaduke
― J0rdan S., Monday, 24 June 2013 18:17 (twelve years ago)
zits
man, if the spirit isn't a comic strip, i just dunno
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:21 (twelve years ago)
It was weekly, it was in newspapers.
― WilliamC, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)
Frank and Ernest (Bob Thaves)
Dry Bones (Yaakov Kirschen)(in the last twenty years has become more political/predictable, less funny, but I remember getting my mind blown by its technique when we read this in Hebrew school, possibly my all-time favorite Israeli cultural product)
Jim's Journal (Scott Dikkers)(late 80s minimalist classic, to my surprise still going)
Washingtoon (Mark Alan Stamaty)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)
oh and you know what, yes, we all hate it, but it left a big cultural footprint, and my 7-year-old loves it beyond reason despite it no longer being a cultural touchstone, so i can't deny that there's something rather extraordinary about it, gentlepeople, i give you
GARFIELD
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)
Dilbert by Scott Adams (I have a soft-spot for it despite Scott Adams being apparently a colossal self-involved jerkhole)
― the REAL Dr Morbius (silby), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)
Mordy do you expect a 25 or 50 ballot size?
― the REAL Dr Morbius (silby), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)
just to make it easier to tabulate:
Family Circus by Bil KeaneMarmaduke by Brad AndersonZits by Jerry Scott and Jim BorgmanGarfield by Jim Davis
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)
i don't really wanna get into the inevitable "what is and isn't a comic strip" debate over the spirit but i feel like if we go down that road and include stuff like ware and the stuff daniel clowes serialized and tintin it'll basically end up being the TCJ top 100 comics list all over again.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)
I'm expecting a 50 ballot size. I'm not going to ban any of the nominations and leave it to the voters' discretion for what qualifies. I may also end the nomination period earlier than expected if we seem ready by the end of this week. (I'm trying to figure out how best to schedule this since we're expecting in mid-July. It'll definitely wrap up and roll out before mid-August but flexibility should be expected.)
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
Ware and Eisner's work showed up weekly in newspapers prior to (and without the intent of) being collected in any other form, same as Groening and Barry. I would argue strongly against shuffling that stuff off as "not really a strip" as it is not historically accurate to look at it that way and negates their achievement.
My benchmark is what I just outlined above: comics originally published daily or weekly in a periodical prior to their collection in any other format. If Tin Tin, Asterix etc follow that same guideline, they should be fair game too.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:46 (twelve years ago)
that sounds legit to me
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)
we should probably have the "does a single panel count" conversation now tooi would vote yes fwiw
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)
i said yes in the op
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)
ah. well. there we are then.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:55 (twelve years ago)
wasn't there a dredd daily back then also? in the daily star iirc
possibly, the Sunday was all that my Australian city got though
most of Life In Hell is never-collected
yeah but he published waayyyyyy more than one story a month, so by Mordy's definition it counts
this needs to be specifically broken down by creator though - Eisner didn't do lots of them, and my favourite era is when Feiffer was writing it with/for Eisner
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:23 (twelve years ago)
Acme Novelty Library is called Acme Novelty Library not Acme Comic Novelty Library btw BUT I don't know how it was tabulated in newspapers when it was running the same serial every week
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:24 (twelve years ago)
I would disqualify Barks' work for comics on a monthly publication schedule. Ditto Kirby's Fourth World (wayyyy more than one story a month, yes I know it wasn't cited), ditto recent superhero comics on weekly and biweekly publication schedules. There's the spirit of the poll that litigating can't get around.
― WilliamC, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)
I would too. But Mordy specifically allows other stuff under the same criteria.
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:32 (twelve years ago)
With one-pagers and shorts, Barks could do idk ten duck stories a month sometimes?
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
Thankfully, I only have a preference, not a verdict.
― Al Leong the Watchtower (WilliamC), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)
Putting my noms in proper form:
Barnaby by Crockett JohnsonPogo by Walt KellyMoomin by Tove Jansson
Love this bit about the latter, per wiki:
Jansson said that she had designed the Moomins in her youth: after she lost a philosophical quarrel about Immanuel Kant with one of her brothers, she drew "the ugliest creature imaginable" on the wall of their WC and wrote under it "Kant".
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:42 (twelve years ago)
re superheroes, obviously daily spiderman would be fine. by contrast 52, even tho it was a weekly, wouldn't. it's hard to explain exactly the criteria and i know that makes it difficult for stuff like banks, but i think the aesthetic is mostly clear?
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 19:49 (twelve years ago)
wld 'newspaper strip' rather than 'comic strip' solve some of these probs?
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:52 (twelve years ago)
Tintin is tricky because it was unquestionably a newspaper strip, but the form that all of us know it in isn't its newspaper form -- the stories were reworked, colorized, etc. I'll probably leave it off my ballot because my experience of it is as a series of graphic novels, which feels very different to me from newspaper strips. But I won't second-guess anyone voting for it.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:53 (twelve years ago)
yes, but i didn't want to limit it to things published in newspaper. i think some of the things nominated (PBF, DTWOF, etc) should be included but i'm not sure if they've ever been run in a newspaper
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 19:53 (twelve years ago)
https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/1068109.jpg
vs
http://img1.etsystatic.com/001/1/5611221/il_340x270.364734337_ihgj.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:54 (twelve years ago)
yes, the first
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)
I have that first one (I think my brother has the second). just as a record of racist stereotypes its breathtaking
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)
PBF has been published in a newspaper but after the web, of course Dykes was
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)
actually I just realised that Mordy's rules specify serialised strips so PBF is out
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)
"Irregularly published comics that are still in serial ongoing form (Achewood, PBF) are also allowed"
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)
it's not the irregularity, it's serialisation
so are:Hark! A VagrantTall TalesKrazy Kat except for Tiger TeaBeetle BaileyNancyThe SpiritBarksNancyLife In HellLittle NemoRarebit FiendGreat Pop ThingsFamily CircusBretecher... most of the thread tbh
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)
haha wait so are you saying that Mordy doesn't understand his own rules
― DJP, Monday, 24 June 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
Moomin by Tove Jansson
I don't think there should be any reason to nominate the Tove strips only, since Lars Jansson wrote and drew Moomin for much longer, and his work on the strip is just as good as his sister's was. (Well, maybe artwise Lars wasn't quite on the same level Tove, but the writing was still top-notch.)
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
so frazetta lil abner? dunno how granular this is getting now
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
xp
Sure. I encourage any and all Moomin votes.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)
Amy & Jordan
― shohreh aja/danteloo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)
(by Mark Beyer)
Love & Rockets/Los Bros Hernandez stuff would be excluded from this, right?
― shohreh aja/danteloo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)
Garfield Minus Garfield which I will vehemently argue be its own separate thing
garfield minus garfield yes, love + rockets i think no
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)
if Asterix is allowed please may I nominate:
Lucky Luke by Morris/Morris & Goscinny
(M+G is the real golden age but may as well include pre- and post-Goscinny; haven't seen the post-Morris stuff)
I have some reservations about whether it fits or not but it was serialised and it's easier to nominate it and not vote for it than the other way round
― susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:21 (twelve years ago)
again, the reasonable benchmark in my mind is that it was published in daily or weekly format first before it ended up in compiled format.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:23 (twelve years ago)
Re: the rules, I think it'd make a lot of sense to make this poll about newspaper strips and webcomics only. If we allow for stuff that was originally released in magazines/comic anthologies, and/or which was released several pages at a time, then Asterix, Corto Maltese, Tintin, etc. would be valid and I think they're simply a different thing, aesthetically. Like, to me a comic strip is something that tells a small finite story, even if they're also a part of a larger story, and the Franco-Belgian stuff feels kinda different from that, even if its technically valid.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)
I would also rule out webcomics that are simply graphic novels released a couple of pages at a time, and don't even try to work as smaller units.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)
xp that makes sense but I'd love a separate poll of the Belgian-style serials if they don't make this one
― susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:27 (twelve years ago)
I'm saying there's a slight chance they may not be entirely consistent or coherent!
Tuomas you can nominate Lars' Moomins separately of course. (I'd bet that a lot of votes for "Eisner's Spirit" would really be thinking of Feiffer's Spirit, though.)
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:31 (twelve years ago)
I pretty much agree with Tuomas here -- it's gotten to the point of palpating the rules in order to include one's own particular faves.
If I vote for the Spirit Sunday sections, I'll just write "The Spirit" rather than "The Outer Space Spirit sections that Wally Wood worked on," which is what I'll actually mean.
― Al Leong the Watchtower (WilliamC), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:34 (twelve years ago)
this is my practice run before i figure out how the non-western music poll is going to work (which i imagine will be much more complicated in terms of rules)
― Mordy , Monday, 24 June 2013 20:35 (twelve years ago)
Hogan's Alley by Richard F. OutcaultBuster Brown by Richard F. OutcaultThe Katzenjammer Kids by Rudolph DirksMutt and Jeff by Bud Fisher
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)
Red Meat from the secret files of Max Cannon
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Monday, 24 June 2013 21:40 (twelve years ago)
pros & cons
― #NOBS (electricsound), Monday, 24 June 2013 23:56 (twelve years ago)
ctrl+f reply all
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*phew*
― #NOBS (electricsound), Monday, 24 June 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
Arlo and Janis (Jimmy Johnson, newspaper strip)Luann (Greg Evans, newspaper strip)Scary Gary (Mark Buford, newspaper strip)
3 favorites among current dailies
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 00:13 (twelve years ago)
diesel sweeties
― #NOBS (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)
DAR: A Super Girly Top Secret Comic Diary by Erika MoenOrder Of The Stick by Rich Rurlew
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 06:27 (twelve years ago)
ctrl+f user friendly
Glen Baxter!
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 07:07 (twelve years ago)
I'm not that likely to vote for any of these, but I thought I'd throw up a list of Guardian strips in case anyone likes them but forgot about them:
If... by Steve BellHome-Clubber by Jon Link and Mick BunnageA Softer World by Joey Corneau and Emily HorneLoomus by Steven ApplebyClare in the Community by Harry VenningBerger & Wyse (I actually weirdly like this one - it appears in the Food section of the Weekend supplement, the jokes are extremely lame food puns, but it's kind of endearing)The Stephen Collins Cartoon by Stephen Collins
― emil.y, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)
Luann?!? plz explain
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)
I'm not sure I can! As neverending teen angst soap operas go, it just comes across with a good spirit. I like the slow evolution of some of the characters, especially Luann's brother Brad, who used to be gross and obnoxious but figured out what the hell to do with his life and wound up getting the girl. Luann herself is a brat, but I still root for her.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:33 (twelve years ago)
but... the art
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:34 (twelve years ago)
...is not real good. Yep.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:35 (twelve years ago)
Good writing will save bad art more than good art will save bad writing, is my general rule of thumb.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)
Azumanga Daioh by Kiyohiko AzumaPlanet Bore, a strip in old Viz comics
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:43 (twelve years ago)
will probably be the only one to vote for it but i nominate
Alf Tupperhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf_Tupper
― That booby's are HOTTT (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:46 (twelve years ago)
also
Sid the Sexisthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_the_SexistMy New Fighting Technique is Unstoppablehttp://www.mnftiu.cc/
― That booby's are HOTTT (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)
― WilliamC, Tuesday, June 25, 2013 5:37 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I definitely agree with you here, WmC.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:54 (twelve years ago)
Has anyone nominated The Broons for Algerian Goalkeeper yet?
― emil.y, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)
I don't think "good art" will necessarily save bad writing, but funny art will often save bad writing.
― Romantic style in da world (crüt), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:56 (twelve years ago)
Rockets Passing Overheadhttp://www.captainstar.net/star/
― That booby's are HOTTT (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)
Viz is bimonthly
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)
i missed that bit. tough but ok i guess.
― That booby's are HOTTT (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)
We should do a ranked ballot poll of every Viz feature ever
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
xpost to emil.y, yes the Broons have already been nominated
Rock'n'Roll Zoo by Savage PencilDal Tokyo by Gary PanterMaxwell the Magic Cat by Alan MooreConchy by James ChildressTroubletown by Lloyd Dangle
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:22 (twelve years ago)
Zippy the Pinhead by Bill Griffith
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)
The Inventions of Professor Lucifer G. Butts, A.K. by Rube GoldbergKing Aroo by Jack KentLittle Lulu by Marge Miss Peach by Mell LazarusThe Wizard of Id by Johnny Hart and Brant ParkerGet Fuzzy by Darby Conley
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)
JL8, by Yale StewartSuperMutant Magic Academy, by Jillian TamakiGirl Mountain, by Simon Hanselmann
― Mordy , Tuesday, 25 June 2013 23:48 (twelve years ago)
Has anyone nominated The Broons for Algerian Goalkeeper yet?― emil.y, Tuesday, June 25, 2013 5:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― emil.y, Tuesday, June 25, 2013 5:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you forgot Oor Wullie by Dudley Watkins
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:39 (twelve years ago)
I'd nominate dennis the menace (Beano version) but I dunno who wrote it
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:40 (twelve years ago)
same with The Bash Street Kids and Desperate Dan
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:41 (twelve years ago)
footrot flats
― #NOBS (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:58 (twelve years ago)
David Law did Dennis until 1970ish. Leo Baxendale created the Bash Street Kids but they've been done by someone else since 1961. Desperate Dan was done by Dudley Watkins until 1969, when he stopped drawing them due to death, but ran in reprints til the early 80s when they decided they were too dated to keep using.
Footrot Flats was by Murray Ball and is in my top 200 strips of all time but no-one else will vote for it
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 05:51 (twelve years ago)
i might. more likely that than little no no & sniffy
― #NOBS (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 05:58 (twelve years ago)
xposton't know if D.C. Thomson still have records of who actually wrote those strips - but if they have, they prob won't ever release that information. Wish they would at least give us a complete, chronological reprinting of Dennis (or Beryl the Peril, Davey Law's masterpiece imho) but don't ever expect to see such a thing in my lifetime.
But unlike the Broons or Oor Wullie, which do actually appear in a newspaper, I don't think Dennis etc should be eligible for this poll - or else, EVERY british weekly strip character would be eligible and again, that way lies a certain kind of madness.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 06:04 (twelve years ago)
Isn't Australia the world's number one Phantom-loving nation? And there's also the work of Stanley and Reginald Pitt to nominate...
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 06:09 (twelve years ago)
Yes re Phantom, but especially in monthly comic-book form, rather than being thought of as a native newspaper strip
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 06:21 (twelve years ago)
Speaking of Aus, I want to nominate the following for purely nostalgic reasons:
Ginger Meggs by Jimmy BancksBluey and Curley by Alex GurneyEttamogah Pub by Ken Maynard
― Vernon Locke, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 07:39 (twelve years ago)
Agree with Ward here, I think we need to keep British strips out of it. Happy to poll that myself once I have home internet again. Will contribute myself more to this at that point.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 07:57 (twelve years ago)
nomination list so far. if i put the wrong creator/writer for any of these, please correct me. also, if i missed anything in the thread, please let me know.
i'm also thinking that, appropriate to the genre, we should also have a smaller worst comic strip ballot too. just in case someone is burning to scream about how awful questionable content is. (that someone is me.) here's the list so far - if it seems like we're not getting any more noms by Friday, I'll wrap it up then and open voting on Monday, otherwise I'll leave it open a bit longer:
A Lesson is Learned but the Damage is Irreversible, by Dale and DavidA Softer World, by Joey Corneau and Emily HorneAchewood, by Chris OnstadAcme Novelty Library, by Chris WareAlf Tupper, by Gilbert Lawford DaltonAmerican Elf, by James KolchalkaAmy & Jordan, by Mark BeyerAndy Capp, by Reg SmytheApartment 3-G, by Alex KotskyArlo and Janis, by Jimmy JohnsonArnold, by Kevin McCormickAzumanga Daioh, by Kiyohiko AzumaB.C., by Johnny HartBad Machinery, by John AllisonBarnaby, by Crockett JohnsonBeetle Bailey, by Mort WalkerBerger & Wyse, by Joe Berger and Pascal WyseBlondie, by Chic YoungBloom County, by Berkeley BreathedBluey and Curley, by Alex GurneyBringing Up Father, by George McManusBristow, by Frank DickensBucko, by Jeff Parker & Erika MoenBuster Brown, by Richard F. OutcaultBuz Sawyer, by Roy CraneCalvin and Hobbes, by Bill WattersonCaptain Easy, by Roy CraneCarol Day, by David WrightCheech Wizard, by Vaugh BodeClare in the Community, by Harry VenningConchy, by James ChildressCul de Sac, by Richard ThompsonCurtis, by Ray BillingsleyDal Tokyo, by Gary PanterDAR: A Super Girly Top Secret Comic Diary, by Erika MoenDeath to the Extremist, by Michael ZoleDennis the Menace, by Hank KetchamDesperate Dan, by Dudley WatkinsDick Tracy, by Chester GouldDiesel Sweeties, by Richard StevensDilbert, by Scott AdamsDonald Duck, by Al Talliaferro and Bob KarpDoonesbury, Garry TrudeauDream of the Rarebit Fiend, by Winsor McCayDry Bones, by Yaakov KirschenDykes to Watch Out For, by Alison BechdelErnie Pook’s Comeek, by Lynda BarryEttamogah Pub, by Ken MaynardFamily Circus, by Bil KeeneFart Party, by Julia WertzFlash Gordon, by Alex RaymondFootrot Flats, by Murray BallFor Better or For Worse, by Lynn JohnstonFoxtrot, by Bill AmendFrank and Ernest, by Bob ThavesFunky Winkerbean, by Tom BatiukGarfield Minus Garfield, by Dan WalshGarfield, by Jim DavisGarth, by Frank BellamyGasoline Alley, by Frank KingGaston, by Andre FranquinGet Fuzzy, by Darby ConleyGet Your War On, by David ReesGiant Days, by John AllisonGinger Meggs, by Jimmy BancksGirl Mountain, by Simon HanselmannGreat Pop Things, by Colin B. Morton and Chuck DeathGuick & Flupke, by HergéHagar the Horrible, by Dik BrowneHark! A Vagrant, by Kate BeatonHi and Lois, by Mort WalkerHogan’s Alley, by Richard F. OutcaultHome-Clubber, by Jon Link and Mick BunnageHoward the Duck, by Steve Gerber and Gene ColanIater Feiffer, by Jules FeifferIdées noires, by Andre FranquinIf..., by Steve BellJeff Hawke, by Sydney JordanJim’s Journal, by Scott DikkersJL8, by Yale StewartJohnny Hazard, by Frank RobbinsJulius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer, by Ben KatchorKing Aroo, by Jack KentKrazy Kat, by George HerrimanLes frustrés by Claire BretécherLeviathan, by Peter BlegvadLi’l Abner, by Al CappLife is Hell, by Matt GroeningLittle Lulu, by MargeLittle Nemo, by Winsor McCayLittle Orphan Annie, by Harold GrayLoomus, by Steven ApplebyLuann, by Greg EvansMaakies, by Tony MillionaireMafalda, by QuinoMagic Whistle, by Sam HendersonMarmaduke, by Brad AndersonMary Perkins On Stage, by Leonard StarrMaxwell the Magic Cat, by Alan MooreMedium Large, by Francesco MarciulianoMenage a 3, by Gisèle Lagacé & David LumsdonMickey Mouse, by Floyd GottfredsonMiss Peach, by Mell LazarusModesty Blaise, by Peter O’Donnell and Jim HoldawayMoomin, by Tove JanssonMoon Mullins, by Frank WillardMother Goose and Grimm, by Mike PetersMutt and Jeff, by Bud FisherMy New Fighting Technique is Unstoppable, by David ReesNancy, by Ernie BushmillerOctopus Pie, by Meredith GranOdd Bodkins, by Dan O’NeillOglaf, by Doug Bayne and Trudy CooperOor Wullie, by Dudley WatkinsOrder of the Stick, by Rich RurlewOver the Hedge, by Michael Fry & T. LewisPeanuts, by Charles SchulzPerry Bible Fellowship, by Nicholas GurewitchPictures for Sad Children, by John CampbellPogo, by Walt KellyPolly and her Pals, by Cliff SterrettPopeye, by E.C. SegarPrince Valiant, by Hal FosterPros & Cons, by Kieran MeehanPupkin, by Bobby CrosbyRed Meat, from the secret files of Max CannonRobotman, by Jim MeddickRock’n’Roll Zoo, by Savage PencilRockets Passing Overhead, by Steven ApplebySally Forth, by Greg HowardSam’s Strip, by Mort WalkerScary Gary, by Mark BufordScary-Go-Round, by John AllisonSick Sick Sick, by Jules FeifferSkippy, by Percy CrosbySky Masters, by Kirby and WoodSluggy Freelance, by Pete AbramsSomething Positive, by R. K. MilhollandSuperMutant Magic Academy, by Jillian TamakiTall Tales, by Al JaffeeTank McNamara, by Jeff MillarTarzan, by Burne HogarthTerr’ble Thmopson, by Gene DeitchTerry and the Pirates, by Milton CaniffThe Adventures of Superhero Girl, by Faith Erin HicksThe Angriest Dog in the World, by David LynchThe Bash Street Kids, by Leo BaxendaleThe Boondocks, by Aaron McGruderThe Broons, by Dudley WatkinsThe Family Upstairs, by George HerrimanThe Far Side, by Gary LarsonThe Heart of Juliet Jones, by Stan DrakeThe Inventions of Professor Lucifer G. Butts, A.K. by Rube GoldbergThe Katzenjammer Kids, by Rudolph DirksThe Kin-der-Kids, by Lyonel FeiningerThe Lockhorns, by Bill HoestThe Pain - When Will It End?, by Tim KreiderThe Perishers, by Dodd and CollinsThe Phantom, by Lee FalkThe Spirit, by Will EisnerThe Stephen Collins Cartoon, by Stephen CollinsThe Upside-Downs of Little Lady Lovekins and Old Man Muffarroo, by Gustave VerbeekThe Wizard of Id, by Johnny Hart and Brant ParkerTijuana Bibles, by Various ArtistsToonerville Folks, by Fontaine FoxTracts, by Jack ChickTroubletown, by Lloyd DangleWash Tubbs, by Roy CraneWashingtoon, by Mark Alan StamatyWhite Boy, by Garrett Pricexkcd, by Randall MunroeZippy the Pinhead, by Bill GriffithZits, by Jerry Scott and Jim Borgman
― Mordy , Wednesday, 26 June 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)
Steve CanyonMale Callby Milton Caniff
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)
I think we need to keep British strips out of it.
I don't! But also, I don't think that was the issue - more that Dennis the Menace (Brit version) and Desperate Dan etc weren't newspaper strips but comic book strips, albeit weekly comic books. Right?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)
oh, also -- if you get the opportunity to pick out your favorite strip or two for comics you intend to vote for, please scan/photo/copy paste them and send them w/ ballots for inclusion in the rollout
― Mordy , Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:48 (twelve years ago)
(i'm mentioning this early in case you want to keep an eye out or whatever)
yes, beano, dandy, 2000ad etc are comic books.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
If there is a separate poll for them then that's fine by me
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:04 (twelve years ago)
How are Sunday-format webcomics eligible but Sunday-format weekly magazine-housed comics not?
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:26 (twelve years ago)
(NB I am pass-agg arguing for more exclusion, not inclusion)
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:27 (twelve years ago)
Oh, that probably means that Ettamogah Pub is out, as it was part of a weekly magazine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasian_Post
So the separate poll would be the content of UK weeklies versus Marvel Comics Presents?
― Vernon Locke, Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:44 (twelve years ago)
i think Sunday-format weekly magazine-housed comics should be eligible
― Mordy , Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:45 (twelve years ago)
i'm not a UK comic maven so i'll rely on you guys to work that out xp
Barks Ducks ought to get to storm the citadel then
(I think this kind of wild scope would be awesome if we had a broad voter base ftr)
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:53 (twelve years ago)
I think this kind of wide scope leads to TCJ top 100. Barks Ducks might meet the criteria but not the spirit (as it were) of the poll.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 27 June 2013 01:07 (twelve years ago)
barks ducks are not newspaper/magazine comics ie. the venue of publication for the most part being non-comics content.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 27 June 2013 01:13 (twelve years ago)
Beano and Dandy I think should be excluded - they are entirely comic books, and (usually, I think) longer form strips. They might not quite be Superman comics or whatever but they are closer to that than my understanding of this poll.
― emil.y, Thursday, 27 June 2013 01:27 (twelve years ago)
By 'entirely comic books' I mean, as f&wa says, the venue of publication is nigh-on entirely comics content.
― emil.y, Thursday, 27 June 2013 01:29 (twelve years ago)
just fyi the beano/dandy strips are mostly one-pagers.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 27 June 2013 01:42 (twelve years ago)
i think a one-page comic in a magazine that later transitioned into a full length comic book is fine to vote for, but you're only voting on the basis of the one-page comic, not anything that came along in comic book form.
― Mordy , Thursday, 27 June 2013 02:04 (twelve years ago)
barks ducks were never in strip format to the best of my knowledge? Did we rule against Tin Tin?
Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, by Gilbert Shelton were originally weekly strips in alt-papers.
I also dig:Angriest Dog in the World, by David LynchBoob McNutt, by Rube Goldberg
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 04:25 (twelve years ago)
Mordy, I think you have the wrong idea about the sort of British comics we're talking about - they're (pretty much) all anthology titles with lengths varying from 1 to about 6 pages (mainly adventure serials).
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Thursday, 27 June 2013 07:54 (twelve years ago)
yeah in light of the rules i shd probably withdraw my nom for Alf Tupper, hadn't really understood the criteria at first
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 June 2013 08:09 (twelve years ago)
Why I like "Scary Gary".
http://assets.amuniversal.com/fcf90230baaf0130e459001dd8b71c47
(hope that worked)
― WilliamC, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:57 (twelve years ago)
Zillions of duck one-pagers, megazillions of 7-8 pagers (ie same length as Spirit), published more frequently than monthly
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:41 (twelve years ago)
they are "comic book" comics.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:50 (twelve years ago)
webcomics are not newspaper/magazine comics ie. the venue of publication for the most part being non-comics content.
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:57 (twelve years ago)
no, but webcomics for the most part are in the tradition of the newspaper strip.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)
like newspaper strips, i'd wager most people reading webcomics are not into "comic book" comics, and the webcomics are consumed along with non-comics content daily news feeds.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)
I will try to follow this poll but I don't even follow this argument
― sjuttiosju_u (wins), Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)
i'm cool w/ whatever happens so long as bloom county doesn't win
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:10 (twelve years ago)
I would be fine with excluding the Spirit Sunday sections if that's what it took to stay consistent in the rules here. I'm not 100% on board with their inclusion anyway, even though I nominated them.
― WilliamC, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:24 (twelve years ago)
spirit is so difficult - the pages look and feel like comic book pages, but they did appear exclusively in newspapers of the time, and were only reprinted in comic book form much later.
if the spirit is eligible, then lady luck by klaus nordling deserves a nomination.
thinking abt the spirit has made me think abt jules feiffer and, collective shame, feiffer by feiffer doesn't appear to have been nommed yet.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)
it was mentioned upthread but I think in the midst of some other stuff.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:40 (twelve years ago)
ah it is under 'iater feiffer' on mordy's list
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:43 (twelve years ago)
Bloom County'll come in somewhere in the 3-6 range probably xps
― El tres de 乒乓 de 1808 (silby), Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:43 (twelve years ago)
eisner considered the spirit separate from comic books:
Eisner left to create The Spirit. "They gave me an adult audience", Eisner said in 1997, "and I wanted to write better things than superheroes. Comic books were a ghetto.
― sleepingsignal, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:50 (twelve years ago)
p much all comic book artists of eisner's generation aspired to have their own syndicated newspaper strip, and get out of the disreputable comic book world. and yes, compared to other comic book content of the time, the spirit is an obviously more sophisticated 'product' than other contemporary american comic book stories. but the spirit is still a guy running around in a mask fighting baddies with a grossly caricatured african-american sidekick in tow.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)
eventually a grossly caricatured white sidekick tbfhttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/40/616359-sammy.jpg
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:14 (twelve years ago)
eisner's ebony, shall we say, developed as the age didhttp://farm1.staticflickr.com/19/23392340_8ad79c0ca6.jpghttp://www.4thletter.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/scan001-0new3.jpgthat said, as a youngster reading the old warren reprints, Ebony's face was so horrifically distorted that I couldn't even recognize him as a black kid; i thought he was some sort of freak
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)
I really love the Spirit and the only reason I have refrained from introducing my daughter to it is the unbelievable racist caricatures of the black characters
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:20 (twelve years ago)
like, sometimes I remember I have fond memories of this but... oh yeah, Ebony. :(
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:21 (twelve years ago)
i think it's important for people of all ages and backgrounds to understand, with context, how racial identity has been portrayed historically in their country of origin and elsewhere; those who ignore history, etc.if i had kids i would totally foist the spirit on them but not before a considerable discussion of visual stereotypes of the '40's. same for looney tunes really.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)
and tbf eisner's women are rendered through the most sexist of eyessome of the bdsm/sub-dom stuff in those stories left me fucked up for life. wertham was right!http://www.comicsbulletin.com/main/sites/default/files/pulp/images/TheSpiritEllen.jpg
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)
a hubba!a hubba!
I agree and am going to have no problem having that discussion with my kids, but she is only 5. She is still wrapping her head around general concepts of identity/ethnicity/national origin. so while I can show her other comics from the 50s/60s that are relatively free of glaring stereotypes, the Spirit is one of those comics (like Little Nemo) where a glaring stereotype is one of the main characters.
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
Gasoline Alley too!
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)
yeah the spirit is in a gray area, it was in a newspaper section specifically designed in response to the popularity of comic books, and the (masked hero) content reflected that too.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)
hey!
and magazines first! a double whammy!
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Friday, 28 June 2013 00:48 (twelve years ago)
Like I said above, if no one has anything against it, I think the Moomin entry in the list should be changed to:
Moomin by Tove Jansson and Lars Jansson
Tove only did the strip for its first 5 years, whereas Lars continued drawing and writing it for 15 years after that... And there's no notable change in quality when it switched from Tove from Jans; Lars had already been a co-writer for the strip for the last couple of years Tove drew it. Of course I could nominate Lars's strips as a separate entry, but that'd only lead to pointless vote-splitting.
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 June 2013 13:12 (twelve years ago)
No it wouldn't, bcz you're the only one familiar enough with Lars' work to vote for it
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Friday, 28 June 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)
I thought the English reprints had already moved to the Lars years? He started co-writing the strip in 1957 and became the sole writer/artist in 1959.
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 June 2013 13:58 (twelve years ago)
Ah yes, looks like D&Q has already published two books of solo Lars strips, with more to come.
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 June 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)
Also, there might be some British ILXors old enough to have read the Lars strips when they originally ran in the papers...?
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:05 (twelve years ago)
not me guv - what british newspapers did the moomins appear in (in my experience it's the books that ppl in the UK are really familiar w/)?
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:07 (twelve years ago)
I'm with Tuomas, purely because I think most people would vote Tove without thinking, so there kind of isn't any point to having the other entry?
― emil.y, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:08 (twelve years ago)
also, desperate dan and the bash street kids don't belong on the list. (all from brit comic books.)
― sleepingsignal, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:10 (twelve years ago)
This is what Wikipedia says:
The main series of Moomin comic strips were made directly for the British market: they were spread by the British Associated Newspapers comic strip syndicate and the original publisher was the Evening News newspaper. The series originally appeared in newspapers from 1954–1975. At its peak, Moomin appeared in over 40 countries and about 120 papers, with over 20 million readers daily, making it the most successful Finnish comic strip ever published.
AFAIK the whole strip came to be because some British newspaper syndicate asked Tove Jansson to produce Moomin comics, it British papers were always the prime market.
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:10 (twelve years ago)
Also, apparently the whole idea that the Moomin comic should more adult-oriented than the books, and more a satire of current social phenomena, was something that was suggested by the British syndicate when they first asked Tove to create the strip.
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:15 (twelve years ago)
(in my experience it's the books that ppl in the UK are really familiar w/)
same here. i didn't know there had been a newspaper strip until the d+q reprints.
― sleepingsignal, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:25 (twelve years ago)
the spirit had daily newspaper strips.
http://www.comicartville.com/spiritdaily1.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:26 (twelve years ago)
maybe that was already mentioned...
The Evening News was a London only paper, although Associated had other regional papers where it could have been published. Associated's Daily Mail was home to the Flook strip by Trog (Wally Fawkes), which also featured a weird animal-like creature (and was written by people like George Melly, Barry Norman, Barry Took Compton Mackenzie and Humphrey Lyttleton - it should be reprinted!)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:29 (twelve years ago)
thanks scott, i'd totally forgotten about those spirit dailies (iirc there's not that much actual eisner involvement but i cld be wrong abt that)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:30 (twelve years ago)
Eisner had 0 or close to 0 hand in them AFAIR. I read some KSP floppy-format reprints, they were not v good
Yes but out of the 7 ppl voting in this poll, you're the only one who's read them, and that's from years before the D&Q books (bcz you've been repping Lars on ILC that long!)
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Friday, 28 June 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)
some of the bdsm/sub-dom stuff in those stories left me fucked up for life. wertham was right!
"No, you don't understand -- "a hubba" is my safeword!"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:00 (twelve years ago)
A lot of my favorites have been nominated, but if this is going to be a 50 ballot size, I have to nominate some more stuff
Dinosaur Comics, by Ryan NorthWondermark, by David Malki
― silverfish, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:22 (twelve years ago)
keep them coming! any opinions about whether i should leave nominations open another week or just over the weekend?
― Mordy , Friday, 28 June 2013 15:27 (twelve years ago)
Nemi FTW
― emil.y, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:37 (twelve years ago)
you spelt WTF backwards
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:38 (twelve years ago)
blecky yuckarella by johnny ryan
― fit and working again, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:02 (twelve years ago)
well, in that case, let's throw in Underworld by Kaz
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)
http://goldbergcoins.auctionserver.net/images/lot/794863/0/lot794863.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)
#dondi4ever
the one daily strip cartoonist i knew when i was a kid. lived in my town. his wife was my high school english teacher.
http://www.lambiek.net/artists/image/b/berrill/berrill_gt270867.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
dondi is good stuff
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rL4ZI-V0fmo/S0TbgpeHu9I/AAAAAAAABAw/Iohg_1wjoJ0/s1600/vices.jpg
struggled to find a SFW George and Lynne
http://www.art4comics.com/garth.jpg
Garth only marginally easier
http://www.billtidy.com/picoftheday/23092010152348.jpg
This is something else entirely
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:28 (twelve years ago)
http://cdn.coollinesartwork.com/Images/Category_2/subcat_43203/WoodyA2.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:41 (twelve years ago)
http://stwallskull.com/blog/images/crumbling_paper/crumblingpaper_billybragg.jpg
wait, Billy Bragg???
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
serious nomination for Apparently by Mike Barfield
http://procartoonists.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/apparently_2.jpg
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)
Another Nom:
Sam's Strip by Mort Walker and Jerry Dumas. It's a meta comic strip about comic strips that ran from 1961-1963. I just got the collection a few months ago and it blew me away.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 28 June 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)
I don't think I've seen Angus Og mentioned yet by the Scottish contingent, and I thought Lobey Dosser was supposed to be the most famous thing ever (it's got a statue ffs which should put it up there beside Desperate Dan and Beryl the Peril, which is heady company).
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Friday, 28 June 2013 21:08 (twelve years ago)
The Angriest Dog in the World by David Lynch
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 June 2013 22:49 (twelve years ago)
The Angriest Dog in the World is a comic strip created by film director David Lynch. The strip was conceived by Lynch in 1973 during a period when he was experiencing feelings of great anger.[1]
― fit and working again, Friday, 28 June 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)
Kenneth Anger's The Most Lynchian Dog in the World not quite as well known
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 June 2013 23:36 (twelve years ago)
oh god i loved angus og. I miss it so much even now
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 29 June 2013 04:45 (twelve years ago)
ok i don't think we're going to get any more nominations so consider this a last call and i'll post the voting thread tmmrw
― Mordy , Monday, 1 July 2013 22:13 (twelve years ago)
post a full noms list first
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 1 July 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)
ok, did i miss anything?
A Lesson is Learned but the Damage is Irreversible, by Dale and DavidA Softer World, by Joey Corneau and Emily HorneAchewood, by Chris OnstadAcme Novelty Library, by Chris WareAmerican Elf, by James KolchalkaAmy & Jordan, by Mark BeyerAndy Capp, by Reg SmytheAngriest Dog in the World, by David LynchAngus Og, by Ewen BainApartment 3-G, by Alex KotskyApparently, by Mike BarfieldArlo and Janis, by Jimmy JohnsonArnold, by Kevin McCormickAzumanga Daioh, by Kiyohiko AzumaB.C., by Johnny HartBad Machinery, by John AllisonBarnaby, by Crockett JohnsonBeetle Bailey, by Mort WalkerBerger & Wyse, by Joe Berger and Pascal WyseBlecky Yuckarella, by Johnny RyanBlondie, by Chic YoungBloom County, by Berkeley BreathedBluey and Curley, by Alex GurneyBoob McNutt, by Rube GoldbergBringing Up Father, by George McManusBristow, by Frank DickensBucko, by Jeff Parker & Erika MoenBuster Brown, by Richard F. OutcaultBuz Sawyer, by Roy CraneCalvin and Hobbes, by Bill WattersonCaptain Easy, by Roy CraneCarol Day, by David WrightCheech Wizard, by Vaugh BodeClare in the Community, by Harry VenningConchy, by James ChildressCul de Sac, by Richard ThompsonCurtis, by Ray BillingsleyDal Tokyo, by Gary PanterDAR: A Super Girly Top Secret Comic Diary, by Erika MoenDeath to the Extremist, by Michael ZoleDennis the Menace, by Hank KetchamDesperate Dan, by Dudley WatkinsDick Tracy, by Chester GouldDiesel Sweeties, by Richard StevensDilbert, by Scott AdamsDinosaur Comics, by Ryan NorthDonald Duck, by Al Talliaferro and Bob KarpDondi, by Gus Edson and Irwin HasenDoonesbury, Garry TrudeauDream of the Rarebit Fiend, by Winsor McCayDry Bones, by Yaakov KirschenDykes to Watch Out For, by Alison BechdelErnie Pook’s Comeek, by Lynda BarryEttamogah Pub, by Ken MaynardFabulous Furry Freak Brothers, by Gilbert SheltonFamily Circus, by Bil KeeneFart Party, by Julia WertzFlash Gordon, by Alex RaymondFlook, by Wally FawkesFootrot Flats, by Murray BallFor Better or For Worse, by Lynn JohnstonFoxtrot, by Bill AmendFrank and Ernest, by Bob ThavesFunky Winkerbean, by Tom BatiukGarfield Minus Garfield, by Dan WalshGarfield, by Jim DavisGarth, by Frank BellamyGasoline Alley, by Frank KingGaston, by Andre FranquinGeorge and Lynne, by Conrad FrostGet Fuzzy, by Darby ConleyGet Your War On, by David ReesGiant Days, by John AllisonGinger Meggs, by Jimmy BancksGirl Mountain, by Simon HanselmannGreat Pop Things, by Colin B. Morton and Chuck DeathGuick & Flupke, by HergéHagar the Horrible, by Dik BrowneHark! A Vagrant, by Kate BeatonHi and Lois, by Mort WalkerHogan’s Alley, by Richard F. OutcaultHome-Clubber, by Jon Link and Mick BunnageHoward the Duck, by Steve Gerber and Gene ColanIdées noires, by Andre FranquinIf..., by Steve BellJeff Hawke, by Sydney JordanJim’s Journal, by Scott DikkersJL8, by Yale StewartJohnny Hazard, by Frank RobbinsJulius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer, by Ben KatchorKing Aroo, by Jack KentKrazy Kat, by George HerrimanLady Luck, by Klaus NordlingLater Feiffer, by Jules FeifferLes frustrés by Claire BretécherLeviathan, by Peter BlegvadLi’l Abner, by Al CappLife is Hell, by Matt GroeningLittle Lulu, by MargeLittle Nemo, by Winsor McCayLittle Orphan Annie, by Harold GrayLobey Dosser, by Bud NeillLoomus, by Steven ApplebyLuann, by Greg EvansMaakies, by Tony MillionaireMafalda, by QuinoMagic Whistle, by Sam HendersonMale Call, by Milton CaniffMarmaduke, by Brad AndersonMary Perkins On Stage, by Leonard StarrMaxwell the Magic Cat, by Alan MooreMedium Large, by Francesco MarciulianoMenage a 3, by Gisèle Lagacé & David LumsdonMickey Mouse, by Floyd GottfredsonMiss Peach, by Mell LazarusModesty Blaise, by Peter O’Donnell and Jim HoldawayMoomin, by Tove Jansson (and Lars Jansson)Moon Mullins, by Frank WillardMother Goose and Grimm, by Mike PetersMutt and Jeff, by Bud FisherMy New Fighting Technique is Unstoppable, by David ReesNancy, by Ernie BushmillerOctopus Pie, by Meredith GranOdd Bodkins, by Dan O’NeillOglaf, by Doug Bayne and Trudy CooperOor Wullie, by Dudley WatkinsOrder of the Stick, by Rich RurlewOver the Hedge, by Michael Fry & T. LewisPeanuts, by Charles SchulzPerry Bible Fellowship, by Nicholas GurewitchPictures for Sad Children, by John CampbellPogo, by Walt KellyPolly and her Pals, by Cliff SterrettPopeye, by E.C. SegarPrince Valiant, by Hal FosterPros & Cons, by Kieran MeehanPupkin, by Bobby CrosbyRed Meat, from the secret files of Max CannonRobotman, by Jim MeddickRock’n’Roll Zoo, by Savage PencilRockets Passing Overhead, by Steven ApplebySally Forth, by Greg HowardSam’s Strip, by Mort WalkerScary Gary, by Mark BufordScary Gary, by Mark BufordScary-Go-Round, by John AllisonSick Sick Sick, by Jules FeifferSkippy, by Percy CrosbySky Masters, by Kirby and WoodSluggy Freelance, by Pete AbramsSomething Positive, by R. K. MilhollandSteve Canyon, by Milton CaniffSuperMutant Magic Academy, by Jillian TamakiTall Tales, by Al JaffeeTank McNamara, by Jeff MillarTarzan, by Burne HogarthTerr’ble Thmopson, by Gene DeitchTerry and the Pirates, by Milton CaniffThe Adventures of Superhero Girl, by Faith Erin HicksThe Angriest Dog in the World, by David LynchThe Bash Street Kids, by Leo BaxendaleThe Boondocks, by Aaron McGruderThe Broons, by Dudley WatkinsThe Family Upstairs, by George HerrimanThe Far Side, by Gary LarsonThe Heart of Juliet Jones, by Stan DrakeThe Inventions of Professor Lucifer G. Butts, A.K. by Rube GoldbergThe Katzenjammer Kids, by Rudolph DirksThe Kin-der-Kids, by Lyonel FeiningerThe Lockhorns, by Bill HoestThe Pain - When Will It End?, by Tim KreiderThe Perishers, by Dodd and CollinsThe Phantom, by Lee FalkThe Spirit, by Will EisnerThe Stephen Collins Cartoon, by Stephen CollinsThe Upside-Downs of Little Lady Lovekins and Old Man Muffarroo, by Gustave VerbeekThe Wizard of Id, by Johnny Hart and Brant ParkerTijuana Bibles, by Various ArtistsToonerville Folks, by Fontaine FoxTracts, by Jack ChickTroubletown, by Lloyd DangleUnderworld, by KazWash Tubbs, by Roy CraneWashingtoon, by Mark Alan StamatyWhite Boy, by Garrett PriceWondermark, by David Malkixkcd, by Randall MunroeZippy the Pinhead, by Bill GriffithZits, by Jerry Scott and Jim Borgman
― Mordy , Monday, 1 July 2013 22:40 (twelve years ago)
Later Feiffer, by Jules Feiffer
this could just be Sick, Sick, Sick / Feiffer by Jules Feiffer
(the former was later titled just Feiffer)
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 1 July 2013 23:25 (twelve years ago)
also THIMBLE FUCKIN' THEATRE, surely that was nommed
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 1 July 2013 23:26 (twelve years ago)
bcz it's the best strip of all time
― sleepingsignal, Friday, June 28, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― fit and working again, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:32 (twelve years ago)
tt is listed as popeye
― fit and working again, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)
Calculus Cat
― Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:05 (twelve years ago)
eh, i suppose that was never really a proper, strip-form comic. citymouth half fits the bill, but i don't love it the same way. ne'er mind
― Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:21 (twelve years ago)
a proper, strip-form comic like 90% of this list of webcomics
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 01:35 (twelve years ago)
oh ffs if we're mainly doing webcomics LEISURETOWN by Tristan Farnon
Or just make up a name for it, as with Popeye
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 01:36 (twelve years ago)
i apologize for the amateurish look of the nomination thread and i hope the staff gets everything into tip-top shape by the time the rollout happens
― Mordy , Tuesday, 2 July 2013 01:52 (twelve years ago)
so stoked for this thread, thanks for doing it mordy!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 05:40 (twelve years ago)
in fairness 'thimble theatre' did eventually get its name changed to 'popeye,' not till some time after segar's death tho i think.
bump, voting has been happening over at:
golf, amirite? ilx's comic strip voting thread is now open
― Mordy , Tuesday, 20 August 2013 02:03 (twelve years ago)