Tall men - is it a prerequisite?

I prefer taller and preferably sufficiently taller that I can wear heels and he is still taller (or not shorter). I went out with someone for the first time ages ago and discovered that my boots made me taller than him and spent an evening leaning at an uncomfortable angle on the bar. Bah.

all care and attention and caveat being attended to, re foolish or offensive generalisations etc

Alright I am. The only reason ever given to me when being spurned is that I am too short. This should make me aggressive, yet it doesn't. Not excessively anyway. Except for the chair thing. And making people cry.

Oh.

I've never had a relationship with anyone taller than 5'5" or so, usually closer to 5'1" (I'm 6', give or take). Not something I do on purpose, it just happens that way.

My last girlfriend was 5'7". Actually, she probably still is. I felt slightly ill-at-ease when she wore heels and I doubt I could date someone taller than that and not feel slightly absurd.

In my time on dating sites, it seems almost a universal requirement for woman that men are at least as tall. I'm not sure the reverse is so explicitly true with men - I don't look at male profiles so much.

doesn't happen

Toby is around 6". Ask him if he gets back ache.

i wasn't talking abt you... you just rudely interrupted my posting...

i am in fact 6". anna wears heels lots, thankfully. short girls rock, they're just the right size to put your arm around.

My shortest gf was 5 foot nothing. It was fine, I can remember nothing about it that felt strange or wrong.

In general, height is like totally irrelevant, IMHO.

Dude, if six inches gives you a backache...

One never knows indeed

Nick - sorry.

Please can we kiss now?

*mwah*

now i'm uh what's the opposite of lanky?

Tall people need to get the fuck off the planet, imo

lolololol

hugs

was just discussing the perfect height. somewhere around 5'11".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Origin_of_Species_title_page.jpg/250px-Origin_of_Species_title_page.jpg

I once met a 6'4'' girl who was seeing a 5'6'' boy. True story.

Professionally?

I once met a 6'4'' girl who was seeing a 5'6'' boy. True story.

Good eyesight

after the boy reaches puberty it'll all be okay again.

I'd given up on dating tall men as being unfair to the other whatever-percentage of guys out there (plus I'm not tall myself) but I seem to have one on speed-dial at the moment. Getting a crick in my neck has become something of a novelty.

and obv

http://www.sawf.org/Newsphotos/Fashion/KatieTom22Feb2008A.jpg

I think being a multi-millionaire helps somewhat

Also:

http://i6.tinypic.com/4kc2254.jpg

I mean, you'd have assumed she was richer than him, right?

Well, if the girl is 6 ft 4, what's she gonna do, hang around for John Leslie?

xpost ages ago. Boy is this a busy thread for some reason.

wtf katie holmes like keeps growing!

I understand why short men might want to go out with tall women but don't know why a woman would want to go out with some little squirt

big feet.

crikey, sam get cape's aiming high.

i like how the starting position for those two in the last picture is already 'if-they-mated'

lot of funny assumptions about 'average height' in some of the original posts in this thread
when did wikipedia come into existence? perhaps i will look it up in wikipedia

My wife is tall.

I am taller.

Amber is tall for a 10 year old.

Alice is very tall for an 8 year old.

i think it is really unfair when tall dudes date 5'4" and shorter girls. they don't need the height! let them have the 5'7"-9"-ers so that i, as a 5'7" girl can have a 5'11" or taller dude!

> Tall people need to get the fuck off the planet, imo

-- The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

We're trying! Just a few more inches and I should be able to grab onto the moon.

Tall people are tall because God is pulling them towards Himself. Short people are short because the Devil has the same idea.

Tall people need to get the fuck off the planet, imo

-- The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:33 AM (Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:33 AM) Bookmark Link

there there little fella!

5'11 is tall

worldwide, 5'9 is ave. height for men, 5'4 for women

It's above average but it's not tall

I think average height for men (in the US?) is 5'10".

Which is why I sometimes sing "Never again is five foot ten the average height of men" the tune of Depeche Mode's "Policy of Truth."

yah its about an inch taller than average in north america i think

Taller guys are good. But I can make exceptions as of course the most important size is WALLET size.

-- Sarah, Monday, August 13, 2001 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

truth bombs

Ha ha, women are small!

actually according to wikipedia it averages out to 5'9.3

Tall people need to get the fuck off the planet, imo

-- The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:33 AM (Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:33 AM) Bookmark Link

there there little fella!

-- chicago kevin, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:43 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Fuck, flying on an airplane at 6'+ is bad enough, I doubt they'd let me anywhere near a spaceship.

in the u.s. xp

U.S. 175.8 cm (5' 9.3") 162.0 cm (5' 3.8") 20+ Measured 1999–2002 [64]
U.S. 178.2 cm (5' 10.2") 164.1 cm (5' 4.6") White Americans, 20–39 Measured 1999–2002 [64]
U.S. 177.8 cm (5' 10") 164.0 cm (5' 4.6") African-Americans, 20–39 Measured 1999–2002 [64]
U.S. 169.7 cm (5' 6.8") 158.1 cm (5' 2.2") Mexican-Americans, 20–39 Measured 1999–2002 [64]
U.S. (South Texas) 172.5 cm (5' 7.9") 159.6 cm (5' 2.8") Mexican-Americans, 17 Measured 1998–1999 [65]

http://a.bebo.com/app-image/5441695052/d91642e6.fb.joyent.us/bebo_quiz/images/wheaties.jpg

The great thing about being 6'2", is that I don't care how tall a woman is. She can be short (I've dated girls around 5'2") or tall (I've also been with a girl almost as tall as me and definitely taller in heels) and it doesn't make any difference to me as long as I'm taller than most of the guys.

Barack Obama - 6 feet 1/2 inch

John McCain - 5 feet 7 inches

Harry Truman - 5'9"

Joseph Stalin - 5'2"

George W. Bush - 2'6"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/chi-heights-0528_covermay28,0,365943.story

The Dutch led the way. At the end of World War II, the average Dutch male stood no taller than 5 foot 7, about 3 inches shorter than the average American male. Today the average height for Dutch males is a shade less than 6 foot 1, making them the tallest people in the world. Scandinavian males run a close second.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Americans have been getting shorter and everyone else is getting taller!

m. white otm.

i'm 6'2" but it's mostly leg. i used to live with this girl and when we'd be seated at a table we were pretty much the same height but when we stood up to leave it became evident that she was 9 inches shorter than me.

man short dudes are obsessed with average heights lol

im 6' and ive dated girls who were as tall than me in like crazy high heeled boots and stuff

last 4 girls ive dated were all 5'9"

last girl i dated was 5'10" and likewise was all arms and legs. she was pretty great.

You know, for some reason I've always imagined 3than being more like 5'5". I don't know why.

http://www.minorlooneytunes.com/pictures/finster003.jpg

Yeah, basically.

You're six foot???? Maybe when I met you you were still growing.

wife is taller than me, i don't care

i never imagined ethan as 6' either!

don't know why a woman would want to go out with some little squirt

^joke in there somewhere.

i date a girl who's 6', the girl im w/ now is like 4'11

*dated

i'm 5'9"ish, usually end up dating girls right around my height.

ILx -- height Vs. shoe size

I actually prefer someone about my height and maybe a bit taller. In the range of 5'9"-5'11".

Also for some reason a lot of women really believe that height correlates to penis size (I have a lot of female friends who coincidentally have had experiences that verify this, but in my experience there is no correlation).

I do fine and I'm barely 5'8". But it's not hard feeling overshadowed by tall dudes, those bastards. I'll knife the next one I see.

i have an ex who is 5'9" tops, yet his myspace profile claims he is 6'0". hilarious.

i'm 6 1. it's been a good height.

I am adam i be 5 8

Yeah, the lying about the height thing, why?? I don't lie about my weight, so...?

I mean as soon as someone meets you they're going to be like "Dude, you are not six-foot, I mean it's FINE, but you're lying."

also why do guys who are 5'8" ALWAYS say they are 5'9"? same with guys who are 5'7" - I guess it's the same as women who lie about their weight.

... and goodbye, weirdo" (xp)

ok 5 7

> I'll knife the next one I see.

From our lofty perch we can see you coming, and the reach advantage that comes with our long, graceful limbs will further be your undoing. What you need is a sniper rifle.

i'm 6'4"

wife is 5'6"

Oh, if you're 1 cm off from being 5'8", why not just say 5'8"? closer than plain ole 5'7".

this always makes me think of one of my college roommates, a short dude (5'6"ish) with a tall, hot girlfriend (5'10" or 11"). he was always like picking her up and wrestling around to assert his masculinity (they are married now).

i think i'm 5'9" but maybe i've been exaggerating. there's no way to know for sure.

im like 5'11"

and three quarters

Do we count hair?

weird mook i never noticed you were 6'4"! i mean i didn't think you were short... maybe i just always see you sitting?

i look at a lot of health insurance applications at work. guys under 5'10" routinely add 1/2 or 3/4 at the end of their height ft/in, whereas guys taller than that NEVER do.

^ add my dad to that list ("five ten and a half")

weird mook i never noticed you were 6'4"

probably because of my width, or poor posture, or vic makin' me look short

You know what's weird, most other countries have no idea what feet and inches are. Everybody measures themselves in centimeters! So you don't get this mystical six-foot demarcation. It seems like a colorless life.

i look at a lot of health insurance applications at work. guys under 5'10" routinely add 1/2 or 3/4 at the end of their height ft/in, whereas guys taller than that NEVER do.

i'm 35 and 7/12 years old.

I'm 180cm.

Gah I have to leave work in like 300 seconds

Aye right, I bet you rounded that up (xp)

lol my mom sez '5' 2" and 3/4' i'm like if you're gonna do that just say 5'3"!

also why do guys who are 5'8" ALWAYS say they are 5'9"? same with guys who are 5'7" - I guess it's the same as women who lie about their weight.

Well, since 5'9" is apparently average for men (as reported upthread), they're probably just don't want to think of themselves as below average. I don't really give a shit, though: I'm 5'8".

I'm 6'1".. thankfully, my boyfriend towers over me at 6'4"! My ex & I were the same height, I felt awkward in heels.. I hope to marry this man but if I don't make that happen, I'll at least find someone else comparably tall *makes notes on ILX guys' heights*

"Enough about the six feet - tell me about the six inches" - Mae West

god stupid prom pics w/ shorter date argh!LK

^^^ysi?

worked out with the aid of a slightly tilting cereal carton that i am about 2 mm taller than my gf, both a proud 5'10"-ish, not a problem for either of us tbh

lol @ 5'9 being 69 inches. lol @ that

talked to a cute tall girl after the show last night who has a "will not date shorter dudes" policy. ;_;

i've been walking around my entire adult life thinking i was 5'8" but recently found out i'm actually 5'9". it's the most exciting thing that's happened to me in months.

Have you checked your shorts, yet?

i am 5'8" "and a half" (and all legs)

6'3"!

WOOT!

talked to a cute tall girl after the show last night who has a "will not date shorter dudes" policy. ;_;

-- Jordan, Friday, July 25, 2008 9:41 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

hook me up man

I am 6 foot 1, my legs are pretty long.

The Height Gap
Why Europeans are getting taller and taller-and Americans aren’t.
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/04/05/040405fa_fact

N., this thread is about what het girls like, not smug know-it-alls butting their way into conversation to belittle people.
-- Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 25 July 2003

"In a century’s time, the Dutch have gone from being among the smallest people in Europe to the largest in the world. The men now average six feet one."

50% of Dutch men are taller than 6'1". Whoa.

hmmm maybe i will move to dutch lands?

Be careful, it is different there! http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterdam_bicycles/

talked to a cute tall girl after the show last night who has a "will not date shorter dudes" policy. ;_;

Yeah see this chick is not actually cute.

TRUTH BOMB

What constitutes 'all legs'? How long are these inseams? Mine is somewhere between 34" and 35.5", depending on the pants.

b/c she's a hater?

xp

I'm 5'8". I like guys of any height equal to or greater than my own. Greater height does not necessarily = greater hotness; they just can't be shorter than I am.

I'm 5'9" and a half and RS is 5'10" and a half. The halves are very important. ;-) I have dated guys shorter than I am but have always been more attracted to taller guys. I would never say it was a prerequisite though, that just seems a little silly to me.

I will admit to breaking up with someone mainly because I was uncomfortable with how little he was. The guy in question was about 5'3' and very small and elfin. I felt like a giant next to him and it was just too weird.

I'm 6'1" and I've never really dated (more than a few times) anyone taller than 5'3"-5'4".

Since my mom's like 5'9" does that make the pattern Oedipal or anti-Oedipal?

tall fellas, fit girlfriends
short fellas, fat girlfriends

Since my mom's like 5'9" does that make the pattern Oedipal or anti-Oedipal?

Depends. Have you killed your dad yet?

why do guys who are 5'8" ALWAYS say they are 5'9"

Ha: I started saying I was 5'9" because either my brother or my father was claiming to be 5'8", and I am demonstrably taller than both of them, and it was easier and more pleasant to just decide I was 5'9" than argue with them that they were actually 5'7".

P.S. I really like the common "my boyfriend must be taller than me" rule women hold, insofar as that (and, occasionally, baldness) are the two dogmatic "superficial" points where women cede the high ground on these matters and we can all of us understand that we are all of us "shallow" about certain points and that is normal and good and it's no big deal.

(Not that it evens out levels of superficiality among men vs. women, or anything, but it's good that both sides have some experience of such things.)

I'm proud of my height (6'4") until I shop for jeans again.

i'm six one and a half and "on the skinny side".

sometimes i feel like my limbs are the appendages of a space station.

The guy I'm seeing now is the same height as I an, and he is VERY attractive to me.

(He's also about 75 pounds heavier than I am. He's not huge, just very solidly build, and I am extremely thin.)

Ach, my typing.

"In a century’s time, the Dutch have gone from being among the smallest people in Europe to the largest in the world. The men now average six feet one."

50% of Dutch men are taller than 6'1". Whoa.

-- caek, Friday, July 25, 2008 11:57 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

considering the article is about a 6'10" guy i think this could just indicate there's a number of unusually tall dutch guys not that 6'1" is the mean average height

you mean the median

math-schoolin' pedantic lookin' boy

yeah sorry i was confusing that with what it would mean if there were 50% of dutch guys taller than 6'1"

okay but here is the thing i'm thinking right now
i always thought i was 5'8 but in fact i am really more like 5'7, somewhere in btwn the two. but in fact are we not always taller than actual doctor-office aka no shoes height b/c usually we are wearing shoes? i guess the shoes i wear always give me an extra inch minimum.

tho probably it doesn't matter so much, this matter of an inch or two, when probably what we're really talking abt here is more significant differences in height. whatever the case, somehow being a 5'7 tall woman seems not as tall as a 5'8 tall woman. and yet i always feel pretty tall. nb. quebec is full of short guys.

Tons of not-tall guy self-pity right now. You tall ones don't know what charmed lives you lead!

(a very bitter 5'9" btw)

short girls are hot

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:46 (6 years ago)

i am 5'8" "and a half" (and all legs)

― gabbneb

5'9" is not exactly minuscule tbh

no, it's a perfectly acceptable height.

xp velko - I couldn't find a good enough image to go with your post using google image search ... but I tried.

it is but an inch shy of mine own longitude and iirc i am a flaming bastion of all that is manly

first to post ljinadress.jpg wins!!!

sounds like a pyrrhic victory ... for someone.

a disaster for bastions

and longitude

and blast beats ...

mayhem were my very close 2nd-choice in that poll fwiw

I like Ulver, too, I just think they're girly black metal.

I'm 5'7" and slender and it's no problem. Though I do have a larger than life personality and tons of self-confidence. I don't like to date women taller than me though. It just feels awkward. I'm sure if I met the right lady it wouldn't matter though.

Nattens Madrigal is to girly what Prince is to this thread

xpost - And I play double bass.

but back to the actual topic of the thread ... I think I find myself attracted to taller men (6' plus), but generally end up with and happiest with guys that are only 3-4 inches taller than me, because I feel less short.

xp - Nate: double bass as in the large string instrument or as in the type of pedal that lends itself to blast beats?

xxp - you just seem a bit too defensive about liking girly black metal for someone encouraging others to post pics of you in drag ...

You just can't help the derailment! Erm, yeah ok, bring on the girly black metal. I'd like a thesis on how Deathspell Omega and Sex Of The City achieve similar dramatic import, 2000 words, you have until next Monday

I have until next Monday to do what ... stop making that joke? It'll probably get old before then.

tallness in men for women/thinness in women for men (for the most part)

For what it's worth, being tall hasn't been much help to me.

thinness in women is for other women, is it not? Boniness in women is not a terribly attractive quality (for the most part)

I met a couple once in which the girl was 6'4'' and the bloke 5'6''.

xpost - yeah but thin women generally get hit on more, it's true. i am under the impression that a lot of guys like delicate looking women.

the nice thing about being 5'1" is that almost all guys i meet are taller than me by at least a few inches, and if someone's 5'7" instead of 5'11" i'm fairly unlikely to notice on first impression. so basically i have a wider dating selection than my taller or pickier friends.

I have always found it immensely refreshing that with certain exceptions for people who ALREADY have very thin girlfriends and whose loyalties lie in that direction, ILX men in general are equal opportunity leches where being not-thin is concerned.

It's kind of like, it's not necessarily either thinness or shortness is preferred in women, but more the idea that the woman should just be *smaller*. Like, it's almost like it's OK - or even considered cute - if a short woman is plump, because it's almost like it heightens the effect of her petiteness.

Or maybe that's just my perception, because I've always been both tall and plump - and surrounded in my family by very tall men who just prefer very tiny women.

Except in a very few rare cases (I mean, OK, I have to admit part of the physical appear of Erol Alkan is his sheer physical massiveness - like, he's so huge he makes me feel doll-like by comparison which is a very rare experience for me these days) I tend to prefer men who are about the same size as me. (Ha ha, as stated in the original post there.)

Maybe it's an equality thing - or maybe, I admit, with my history, perhaps it's being physically afraid of men who are much larger than me.

I think that overall in popular culture, you're exactly right w/r/t women's sizes, in one way or another. But on an individual level, I've known plenty of guys who also like a statuesque armful and have gone for girls in that category. So in conclusion: meh.

Boys who like girls, like girls. Meeting someone you like who has different qualities can make you re-evaluate those qualities in everyone else. That has DEF happened to me w men: I now find a lot of things desirable based on certain people, that I didn't nec like before.

For what it's worth, being tall hasn't been much help to me.

^^^^this

I am grateful for being tall mostly because if I weren't, I am the type who would be super self-conscious about it. But it only gets you so far.

It should mean you can see in crowds at least, except that I always get stuck behind an even taller bloke.

xpost Yeah, I have enough that I'm self-conscious about without the additional burden of baseless but likely problematic height inadequacies.

i like not being tall. i think it's the underdog mentality.

being tall gives my bad dancing an even bigger canvas. It's like semaphore or some shit

otm

i like tall people and i like being tall

It drives me insane when tallish women have this requirement that guys they date be taller than them. I get maybe that you don't want to completely tower over yr dude (even though it's totally giving in to bullshit gender roles, but w/e, those are powerful, I understand), but like, I'm 5'11", and if a woman's 6', I'm pretty sure we'd work out just fine and that very few people would see us together and immediately think "oh what a a freak of amazonian nature that midget man seems to have found".

Ha: I started saying I was 5'9" because either my brother or my father was claiming to be 5'8", and I am demonstrably taller than both of them, and it was easier and more pleasant to just decide I was 5'9" than argue with them that they were actually 5'7".

― nabisco, Friday, July 25, 2008 2:46 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ dear roxymuzak: this was posted before that time you were up here and everyone's stated heights would have made me like 5'10", right? this is what I'm talking about.

xpost - yeah, that seems silly to me too, except when my tall woman friends actually do date slightly shorter guys who are like "this is fine as long as you don't wear heels." they look good in heels!

i'll date shorter guys only if they wear heels when we're together

tall girls in heels is a little wacky, especially if they are the type to complain about short dudes

tall girls in heels=awesome

i h8 heels

harbl I will wear heels 4 u

I will be yr midget prince

lol

tall girls in heels=awesome

recently played a friend's wedding where the groom was really tall (like 6'2" or 6'3") and the bride was really, really tall (had a few inches on him easy).

girls in what they wanna wear = awesome.

This whole idea of if yr short, you have to wear heels, if you're tall, you should never wear heels = total bullshit.

totally

i like not being tall. i think it's the underdog mentality.

Underdog mentality = classic.
Napoleon complex = dud.

lucky for you, the page you've linked to suggests research debunks that dud (i.e., it is basically a SMEAR on short men)

the amount of times i've pulled the pedant card and told people that Napoleon wasn't short = loads.

oh wait, apparently there is MIXED EVIDENCE, what do you know. I like this one:

men that were 5'4" were 50% more likely to show signs of jealousy than men who were 6'6"

which is kinda like DUH, they are 5'4", why would they not be jealous of all you tall bastards testing them to confirm that they are allegedly dicks

napolean complex might be more or less made up, but there are plenty of short guys who try to overcompensate in the gym, I think

Agreed that calling it a full-blown complex is pseudoscience, but having a chip on your shoulder about your height, or anything else, is not attractive.

haha I'm mostly just interested that with short guys it's considered a chip on the shoulder rather than, like, a fight against real discrimination

(I mean, I'm not saying short guys are massively and systematically oppressed or anything, but then again they get paid less and whatnot, right?)

they need less food

Has anyone else seen guys who are like 5'1" and they refuse to date any women taller than them, and they marry some woman who's like 4'(" and have all thse short kids who then go do the same thing? There were two families in my church who, starting w/the grandparents, were inadvertently selectively breeding shorter and shorter families.

4'9" I mean

shift key

I had a best pal in high school who was 5'3" and I realized seven years later that he must have hugged me so frequently bcz it was face-to-boob level (I'm 5'9"). We were smooching-time pals for a while and it was kind of awkward kissing him standing up bcz women height men blah leaning over buh hey a staircase!

haha I'm mostly just interested that with short guys it's considered a chip on the shoulder rather than, like, a fight against real discrimination

it's (mostly) a type of subconscious discrimination, so I'm not sure how you could really fight against it. if someone is choosing between two candidates for a job, I imagine that statistically the tall guy has a better shot. but that's partly because of subconscious judgments (taller person had more 'presence' or whatever) + partly because taller people are going to be more confident and confident people are going to get more jobs.

so I'm not sure what the employer could really do to fight against this discrimination - should he actively pay attention to the heights of the candidates and try and discount his own biases? even were he to do this, you'd still have the confidence gap.

They should interview them through a box in which you can see only their heads.

i love tall dudes. it's not a prerequisite, but it's definitely a preference.

wait, iatee, I am totally confused by two things in there -- (a) if taller people are going to be more confident then wouldn't it kinda make sense for short men to compensate by trying to project confidence, i.e. the whole thing we're talking about, plus (b) honestly, aren't gender and racial discrimination pretty often exactly as much about "subconscious judgments" as what you're describing?

(again, I'm not saying short dudes are huge victims of systematic discrimination, but it's one of those things, like being an overweight woman or being deemed unattractive in general, where you're gonna get negatively judged in a lot of ways, and nobody even feels super-bad about it)

short people got

^^ which I know is kinda just The Way It Is, and people do better by just accepting certain societal things and being serene about it and being awesome about whatever they are, etc., but it's funny how when it comes to like short guys or bald/ugly guys or whatever there's rarely acknowledgment of this stuff

http://somesmallsense.blogspot.com/2006/08/princeton-study-coorelates-height-and.html

"On average, taller people earn more because they are smarter....As adults, taller individuals are more likely to select into higher paying occupations that require more advanced verbal and numerical skills and greater intelligence, for which they earn handsome returns."

(just for the record I am clowning and i have no dog in this fight--I am tall, but pretty stupid.)

I'm still waiting for this higher pay thing.

maybe there's a point of diminishing returns, and you're too tall

http://www.berrywood.net/LindaCarelStruycken.jpg

^^^tall guy getting chicks

a) yes, I agree and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. it's probably a good thing in a lot of situations.

b) I think height discrimination is more subtle than gender and racial discrimination because people don't *actively* dislike short people? It might be comparable to the type of subconscious gender/racial discrimination done by a left-wing white male who's politically correct and really doesn't hate women and minorities?

^^ which I know is kinda just The Way It Is, and people do better by just accepting certain societal things and being serene about it and being awesome about whatever they are, etc., but it's funny how when it comes to like short guys or bald/ugly guys or whatever there's rarely acknowledgment of this stuff

I agree and also w/ your post upthread. Being attracted to big boobs is shallow, but only being attracted to tall guys who aren't balding is...just the way it is? It comes down to the same evolutionary principles, but if people accepted that.

* but it'd be nice if people accepted that.

what is considered short and what is considered just average in terms of men's height?

short = 5'8" and below? tall is 6'+
imo

Being attracted to big boobs is shallow, but only being attracted to tall guys who aren't balding is...just the way it is? It comes down to the same evolutionary principles, but if people accepted that.

Naw, you gotta pick and choose. I get pretty much all the free passes for actually PREFERRING non-skinny bald men.

am i not shallow if i am attracted to tall guys who are bald?

or just half shallow

xp - hmm, I see between 5'8 and 5'11 as average, but I think we're in the same ballpark.

half shallow imo

I dunno how much the "bald" part really counts until you're older, but yeah, that one seems to have diminished a whole bunch now that it's non-weird to shave your head

(still, though, I expect that if I make it to 60 some dude with Updike hair will be stylin' on me)

probably the worst look is balding ... where there is a significant discrepancy between quantities/qualities of hair ...but I think we've already done a thread on "the haircut"

If they're tall enough, you won't be able to see that they're bald anyway.

yeah i mean. i would prefer you just shave it off than try to hang on to some sad little tuft.
xpost

presumably you would see them in a recumbent position at some point in the relationship?

What about really short women (5'2" or under) who seem to date only really tall guys (over 6'1")? I had a conversation with an ex who fell in the former category about whether it's a "thing" that some shorter girls seem to go for really tall guys. She admitted there's kind of a thing, and mysteriously the last guy I saw her with was probably 6'3" or so, in my estimation.

i always feel like the tall guys go for short girls and it drives me crazy because they can do just fine with a 5'7"er

are you 5'7"?

ok lol i knew i had already done this bit (and on this thread!):

i think it is really unfair when tall dudes date 5'4" and shorter girls. they don't need the height! let them have the 5'7"-9"-ers so that i, as a 5'7" girl can have a 5'11" or taller dude!

― tehresa, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:43 AM

no that's interesting in the context of what each of us sees as average height ... my range started an inch shorter than yours, and I'm 5'6".

i'm 6'3" and pretty much only go for girls 5'4" or less. I'm sorry for being unfair!

why would you do that!?

>_<

i'm tall btw

almost all of my female friends are about my height or taller, except for one, who's about 5'1" and is married to a guy that's 6'2". I don't know enough about their relationship histories to know whether she always went for tall guys or he always went for short girls.

jordan how did you find my prom photo?

p.s. i don't trust tall guys who seem to date exclusively short ladies. something fishy going on there.

what's so fishy about a standing bj

lol

^^ first thing I thought of, as well.

well i mean if they want to feel like they're getting head from a member of the lollipop guild then more power to them, but you know, different strokes.

http://gonemovies.com/WWW/MyWebFilms/Drama/WizardLollipop.jpg

do not want

I don't think height makes much of a difference in terms of stroking ...

rough trade.

lollipop guild vs. oompah loompahs

oh man, that picture

http://www.halloweenplayground.com/images/rubies/munchkin-lollipop-guild.jpg

what the...

dan how did you find my junior prom photo?

it isn't adultbaby.jpg?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2909249527_d8d48966f0.jpg

http://www.prestigioushomesflatfeeservices.net/images/ompa%20lumpa%20menbbb.jpg

I once saw that there was a dating website for midgets and people who were interested in dating midgets, and ... I dunno, it was weird to imagine the high (and appropriate) level of skepticism people on there probably had about straight guys who were interested in midgets. Or then again maybe not, maybe it's all cool, who knows.

http://www.headinjurytheater.com/lep5%20leprechaun%20blowjob.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/3117687814_4c0d2a6f90.jpg?v=0

i am not clicking that last link until i get home

or rather about straight average-height guys who were interested in the small ladies

there are also dating sites for amputees ...

agh

nothing scared me as a child more than those oompa loompahs

their songs

their dancing

the way they kept killing those poor innocent children off

their unnatural skin tone is what made them the scariest to me.

which one is the one who swells up like a giant blueberry and needs to be juiced, because her life SUCKED

Violet

violet beauregard

classic line: "Violet, you're turning violet, Violet!"

let's not forget the LSD chicken tunnel of doom

poor Violet, from bubblegum champ to blue fattey in 10 seconds

she was not an oompa loompa

sarahel otm re skin color

THEY ALL GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO THEM

especially Veruca Salt

xp - the fact that there are real people who have skin that color from artificial tanning disturbs me.

http://www.lohanonline.com/news/data/upimages/lindsay_lohan_tan.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw0zZttfUaw

^^^i once made a huge mistake at a party when i compared another guests skin tone to an oompa loompahs. i told her this. out loud. and then she got skin cancer within like a year.

oh shit

yeah

WHAT ARE YOU AT GETTING TERR-I-BLY FAT

this has sounded in my head at least once daily for the last 21 years.

Que, maybe the charitable way of looking at it is that you warned her, only a little too late?

Que, you know Lindsay Lohan?

^ this rationalization would be easier if you said what you said in the style of an intervention

yeah i guess? still felt like an ass. to be fair, even though i was drunk at the time that i saw it her skin tone was TERRIFYING

why do people think that looks good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEXqL-dvIM&feature=related

hahaha

http://www.funnydogsite.com/pictures/Oompa_Loompa_Dog.jpg

http://threetreesstudios.com/andscifi/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/14-amazing-ridiculous-dog-costumes-1.jpg

hahaha, glad you're back dude

that poor dog :(

"xp - Nate: double bass as in the large string instrument or as in the type of pedal that lends itself to blast beats?"

Why would anyone brag about playing an orchestral instrument? No I'm talking about heavy metal thunder. Little guy, big sound.

haha in my town double bass players are very in demand, if you know what i mean

(the large stringed instrument)

I think both are awesome, btw ... the balance issues with double vs single pedal are taking me a bit to get used to.

I'm derailing again ... sorry.

surely not!

oh good, Mr. Jagger

it's always the time for Mr. Jagger

I was just responding to something I'd asked nate before this thread reverted back to being on topic ... my adventures in double bass pedal land are not nearly as compelling as the dog pics ...

as long as you don't use gloves to drum

uh, no ...

or china cymbal or a splash cymbal

no ... the reason I took it up was because it's entirely modular, so height/length of limbs differences don't make much of a difference. My hands are too small to play guitar well.

stubby finger syndrome strikes again

I had an ex-boyfriend who had the same size hands as me ... which was weird because he was 3 inches taller ...

was his name bilbo

was thinking now that u guys made those hand turkeys one thanksgiving and then were shocked and saddened to find out that they were the same size... the play was ruined. he had midget hands... at least there would be pie.

no ... I remember thinking it was symbolic of some soul mateness type thing, though.

i dont even no y i clicked on this thread i dont care abt the tallness of dudes ~ god loves everyone but he loves short ppl just a little less. qed.

god hates oompah loompahs ...

god hates pugs and he hates pugs in costumes even more

girly hands on men could be a whole new thread

the pug doesn't look very happy either ...

girly hands on oompah loompahs holding pugs

listening to ... no, I'll stop.

listening to girly black metal. just say it if you want to

I don't want to anymore.

i can tell by the way the wind is blowing

sheesh, all I wanted to know was whether you dislike blast beats and aggressive drumming ...

why would i deign to sallow mine auricles with such pointless noise, such mindless violence, prithee let my head slumber 'pon a travel-pillow of purest muzak

xpost - I like both but tend to play my double bass slowly and evenly. Get a good deep rhythm going...

i love tuning my instrument

^^ lots of threads devoted to this already, tho.

My bf is only about 5 foot 4 or 5. he's tiny. But thats ok, cause so am I, so I can look him in the eye when I headbutt hug him.

After 4 years dating a guy who is 6 foot 6 or more, it's something of a change.

I had an ex-boyfriend who had the same size hands as me ... which was weird because he was 3 inches taller ...

― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Tuesday, September 1, 2009 2:36 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Ha, I think my hands are abt the same size as my gf's...9 inches between us in height!

I have small hands. She doesn't have ape mits.

http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jillian-man-hands-from-seinfeld.jpg