Deep Blue Something - Breakfast At Tiffany's Vs Cranberries "Zombie"

maybe one at a time?

I originally thought she was honking "sorry" instead of "zombie" and, when my misconception was corrected, it had the counter-intuitive effect of making me hate the song

both terrible but zombie is far, far terribler

lol dan

breakfast at tiffany's is easily the worst of all the songs polled so far

plus these songs aren't really similar, my much superior dare i say genius original thread examined two songs that came out in close proximity to each other, originated from the same obscure corner of the globe, and have somehow both proved to be persistent on radio/in the larger culture. c'mon man.

my friend thought it was 'the army' in a french accent
z'army

Deep Blue Something are a hideous pile of shit within a hideous pile of shot on top of a hideous pile of shit.

yeah but these songs were hits globally!

xp

anyhow voting deep blue something cuz it may be a worse song but it's definitely a worse band and god knows worse band name

wish I could reverse the title: "Deep Blue Something" by Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Breakfast at Tiffany's is a great song, fuiud. Spin Doctors would kill their frontman to have a song like that on their repertoire.

I had never heard all of "Breakfast" til this thread and I still haven't, I made it to 1:48 before tapping out. Still "Breakfast" wins because at least its YouTube clocks in at 4:20

breakfast at tiffany's because it has like 3 notes and they all suck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQDzdiblNE

Spin Doctors would kill their frontman to for haveing a song like that on their repertoire.

L'enfer, c'est le Zombie

you know what, I am starting to like "Zombie" again

what the hell, ears

Carefully taking note of all the insane people in this thread. (Hint: They're defending "Breakfast at Tiffany's.")

I hate Zombie but I'm glad it was a success so that I could be lol'ing forever at this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7SO67RydKc

Spin Doctors would kill their frontman to have a song like that on their repertoire.

the spin doctors would kill their frontman for the royalty checks from any international smash, though

Jesus, I don't hate all these songs but the VIDEOS are an abomination. The Edie vid was just painful, and this BaT one, while I like the song just fine, it's AWFUL.

WITH THEIR TANKS AND THEIR BOMBS AND THEIR BOMBS AND THEIR GUNS IN YOUR HEAD DO YOU SEE?

Carefully taking note of all the insane people in this thread. (Hint: They're defending "Breakfast at Tiffany's.")

― Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Monday, August 5, 2013 8:14 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"That's one thing we've got"

Anyone want to explain the A.D.A.M. Feat. Amy - Zombie video to me?

can't believe long hair and boots and zombies and breakfast were ever things. fuck the 90s

judging songs by what the spin doctors would think, what the hell, that is just perverse

"Zombie" at least has a shred of self-awareness vis-a-vis the goofy absurdity of the chorus; "Breakfast at Tiffany's" is just overenunciated lukewarm dogshit.

man I watch these 90s videos and my mind just reels, these people were fucking BURNING money back then

between this pair and Dionne Farris' "I Know" early '95 was a fucking horrorshow

xp lol the 90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5mNzOtm24I

neither of these songs are bad. zombie actually happens to be pretty great.

yeah in retrospect 'zombie' just a run of the mill shit altrock song w/ a hideous chorus, it's no worse than our lady peace or whatever. i'd be surprised if there are ten songs to hit #1 on the mainstream rock chart this century that are better than it. i think at the time i mainly hated it cuz this band i'd enjoyed as a very poor man's the sundays came back and scored a huge hit as candlebox performs a tribute to u2's war. it was a very key 'ok so this altrock revolution definitely wasn't worth it' moment.

treeship everybody

it was a very key 'ok so this altrock revolution definitely wasn't worth it' moment.

for me it was watching Alice in Chains get to #1

I would gladly burn a bundle of money if that will make Aero cover Breakfast at Tiffany's in Amsterdam this October :)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxp

I loved the music in the 90s (well early 90s to mid 90s) and will defend it to the end of earth but fucking hell it did have some of the worst music ever.

I've recently been doing a nostalgia project of sorts which involved listening to every Now! of the 90s and also cataloguing every top 40 single of the 90s. I'd agree with the above, as we get to 1999 it's just utter, utter, stinking waste. I hadn't realised how much of my most hated music came from the same year.

lol aero i have the same reaction watching 90s music vids, i posted the ll cool j vid for 'deepest bluest' the other day, a shitty soundtrack vid for a second tier would be summer hit movie, and was blown away by how much money had clearly been spent just as a matter of routine (it's not like it was an especially ambitious, costly video, it wasn't 'earth song' or whatever), couldn't imagine any video today - timberlake, beyonce, whoever - getting the kind of budget circa 1999 ll cool j got for his song about a shark.

I need to poll Jamie Walters' "Hold On" and Martin Page's "In the House of Stone and Light"

zombie is a solid tune, kind of ridiculous but its hooks don't really annoy me, though i think it does make one forget the cranberries had a pretty fun sundays-style first album. 'breakfast at tiffany's' is just horrible.

"Breakfast at Tiffany's" is sung from the point of view of a man who is on the verge of breaking up with his girlfriend on the basis that the two have nothing in common. Desperate to find something, the man brings up the Audrey Hepburn film Breakfast at Tiffany's, and his girlfriend recalls that they "both kinda liked it." He argues that this should serve as enough motivation for them to work out their problems based on the notion that love will always find a way to make things work.

doomed couple

i heard this piece of crap on the radio today and i think it deserves a runoff on the following grounds:
* shameless nirvana aping
* stupid overwritten lyrics containing the word "copacetic" and rhyming it with "pathetic" and "accept it"
* this awful video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Oe5YKhzCE

Oh, god, I almost forgot that shitty little guitar riff after the choruses in BaT. Like, why even bother, if that's the best riff you can come up with? Why didn't someone just pull down the fader on that during mixing?

some crazy money was spent on videos for sure back then

This is for you, LL - Kay Hanley of Letters to Cleo performing the same song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwGKbDEK5m0

i remember getting into some arguments over 'breakfast at tiffany's' in college. lots of people loved, loved that tune.

leong said, "What about 'Breakfast at Tiffany's?'"
She said I think I remember the song
And as I recall I think, we both kind o' liked it

wtf that Dionne Farris song is fantastic Alfred

Also that Local H song rules

BAT is awful in every way. awful idea for a song, shitty tune, shitty vocals, bad lyrics. it's not even catchy, for god's sake.

lots of people loved, loved that tune.

yeah these songs were huge worldwide smashes. Some people will actually be nostalgic for them.

there's dire music in any era and some of it will score big in any era oft times for reasons that have nothing to do w/ music. 1966 and 1984 are maybe the two best years for top 40 in the past half century and even there you've got 'ballad of the green berets' and 'i just called to say i love you' hitting #1.

i heard this piece of crap on the radio today and i think it deserves a runoff on the following grounds:

hahaha I saw them open for Cheap Trick in '98. They brought Bun E. out for a cover of "He's a Whore." Bun was louder than Flaily McBigDrums without breaking a sweat.

yeah in retrospect 'zombie' just a run of the mill shit altrock song w/ a hideous chorus, it's no worse than our lady peace or whatever. i'd be surprised if there are ten songs to hit #1 on the mainstream rock chart this century that are better than it... it was a very key 'ok so this altrock revolution definitely wasn't worth it' moment.

yeah back then it really seemed like the canary coming out of the coalmine, coughing twice and then vomiting up all its entrails. like, there's a lot of stuff we could be hearing right now and we've got...this...oh, fuck...the future sucks

whereas deep blue something felt like just another shitty tune to enjoy next to nine more shitty tunes

hmm I remember at the time I didn't really have an opinion on "Breakfast At Tiffany's" but listening to it now is making me want to punch everyone involved

wtf that Dionne Farris song is fantastic Alfred

if you like someone taking a power drill to your forehead

1966 and 1984 are maybe the two best years for top 40 in the past half century and even there you've got 'ballad of the green berets'

whats that?

Next we can get to "Counting Blue Cars." Then maybe this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIANBamMgas‎

Dan would you give all 4 bands the fist of death?

aero otm just another dishwalla nothing to see here move along

Tbh I only tolerate BaT's because it was playing in a Spanish bar when I first got to make out to a summer holiday gf

Zombie: the "chorus" is indefensible.

just about any year except 1965 ending in 5 is awful

xxxpost lol phil beat me to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT9h_-pGKK0

^^^ rules

Dan would you give all 4 bands the fist of death?

I would spare Edie and, today only, Cranberries

"Tanks, bombs, bombs and guns" is the new "spam, spam, spam, eggs, bacon and spam."

silverchair

haha otm

dan otm about dionne farris, tempted to put together a playlist of 90s vaguely r&b definitely adult contemporary tracks, maybe call it 'you gotta be hard, you gotta be tough, you gotta be...90s!'. seal would reign supreme obv. ttd totally will make an appearance.

Why isn't this and the other one on ILM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZD982yrmx4

all of these songs are like vending machine egg salad sandwiches

I will rep for that dishwalla song

Tiffany's is catchy. Kinda.

ZOMBIE IS AN ENORMOUS PILE OF HORSESHIT.

ugh can't stand "You Gotta Be" either. It's "I've Never Been to Me" with an adult R&B vibe.

"Kiss From a Rose" is great though.

Tiffany's is catchy. Kinda.

ZOMBIE IS AN ENORMOUS PILE OF HORSESHIT.

― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, August 5, 2013 8:35 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

God FINALLY some assistance here <3

I recently wrote a review of The Cranberries. It went like this.

The Cranberries: THIS BAND WAS IRISH AND ALMOST ENTIRELY AWFUL EXCEPT THEY HAD ONE SONG CALLED "DREAMS" THAT WAS DAMN CATCHY. THE END.

It's twelve o'clock, and it's a wonderful day
I know you hate me, but I'll ask anyway
Won't you come with me, to a place in a little town
The only way to get there's to go straight down
There's no bathroom, and there is no sink
The water out of the tap is very, hard to drink
Very hard to drink

million xxxps

Zombie really is just the worst. Awful. No.

What bracket has dishwalla or the gin blossoms

hated 'you gotta be' at the time but kinda enjoy it now w/ those vibes or whatever and trying to keep it positive. ugh why did i move to a place w/ no bathtub, HOW AM I GONNA HAVE A CALGON MOMENT TO DES'REE NOW???

primitive radio gods

311

When I was in college, the dudes in dorm room that adjoined mine blasted "Zombie" over and over again. I felt a bit like an embattled dictator with US marines surrounding my compound playing GnR at deafening volumes in order to break my will and make me surrender.

Actually, now that I think about it, I kinda envy that dictator. "Zombie" is much worse.

all of these songs are like vending machine egg salad sandwiches

You eat them and the parasites make you super-smart?

http://www.pussreboots.pair.com/images/ulysses/parasites_lost_06.jpg

"I Know" is like a bargain Bill Withers track, the 90s production trappings are grating enough but the vibe is good and the tune's good - I think of that sort of thing as what I liked about the mid-nineties, a holdover from the early 90s easy-groove sensibility

primitive radio gods

one of my favorite Wikipedias

I had completely erased all memory of "You Gotta Be" until just now. THANKS, OBAMA.

see I wish "I Know" had sounded like "No Myth."

Spin Doctors 'Little Miss Can't be Wrong' vs Blues Traveler 'Runaround'

will rep for primitive radio gods, one of the few trip-hop tracks to break thru on radio (though obv not the best - hello sneaker pimps).

'runaround' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'little miss can't be wrong'

jesus spin doctors obv are you kidding me with that?

omg balls you are surprising me today

according to an episode of roseanne john popper guested on 'runaround' is in fact about roseanne's sister jackie

btw balls you are correct that your initial thread is a uniquely excellent point of comparison. however I'm always happy to pile onto some terrible 90s jams. tho tbh I wish we could do the same thing with terrible 80s jams but everybody loves those

ftr i don't particularly like 'runaround'

Zombie really is just the worst. Awful. No.

― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, August 5, 2013

okay wait What's Up is still the worst

SPIN DOCTORS > EVERYTHING ELSE EVER

ok wait that's not right but

TWO PRINCES > EVERYTHING ELSE EVER

is.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/New_Orleans_Jazz_Fest_2010_John_Popper_Blues_Traveler.jpg/250px-New_Orleans_Jazz_Fest_2010_John_Popper_Blues_Traveler.jpg

lol aero thank you for honoring my 'hey i wasn't just doing SOME BUZZFEED THING MAN' tirade

that dionne farris video feels like a compendium the music video cliches (halo lights! tracking shots of the camera spinning! around! the! band! black & white checkered floor!) but i don't hate the song

will rep for primitive radio gods, one of the few trip-hop tracks to break thru on radio (though obv not the best - hello sneaker pimps).

― balls, Monday, August 5, 2013 11:42 AM

I stand with balls

Why isn't this and the other one on ILM?

― ailsa,

because balls thread was on ile(i dont remember you complaining on that thread about it)

'runaround' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'little miss can't be wrong'

― balls, Monday, August 5, 2013 2:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

grumpycat.jpg

I'd like to see Spin Doctors face off against Alanis Morissette. Those two were in heavy rotation on the radio station I was forced to listen to all day long at one of the worst jobs I've ever had.

according to an episode of roseanne john popper guested on 'runaround' is in fact about roseanne's sister jackie

― balls, Monday, August 5, 2013 2:44 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait what? How have I not seen this? I swear to God I thought I'd watched every single episode over the course of the last 4 months. I need to see this!

Gotta keep em separated

however I'm always happy to pile onto some terrible 90s jams. tho tbh I wish we could do the same thing with terrible 80s jams but everybody loves those

― tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned),

there must be plenty that would get a pile on

any song that my dick performed has at least one redeeming quality.

lol I just rememebred that Blues Traveller appear at the end of Kingpin.

that primitive radio gods song is good. that dishwalla song is not terrible but the lyrics are.

kingfish is pretty fly for a white guy

I feel like alanis had 5 million annoying songs that I had to hear 5 million times apiece

x-post - I also recently reviewed the offspring.

THE OFFSPRING WERE SHOUTY AND HAD A COUPLE CATCHY SONGS BUT WAY MORE SHITTY THAN CATCHY ONES. ALSO THEY TOTALLY RIPPED OFF THE BEATLES. DEXTER HOLLAND IS SUPPOSEDLY A GENIUS OR SOMETHING BUT IF HE"S SO SMART WHY COULDN'T HE WRITE BETTER TUNES? A MISS.

two dicks > what's up, my dick? but only very slightly.

alanis looks like joni mitchell compared to a lot of this shit. also i think that first cranberries album is a good one start to finish. gin blossoms shouldn't even be discussed in this thread considering the strength of 'new miserable experience'.

Weren't Diswalla Christian or was that Jars of Clay or something? Man, so many shitty bands.

i assume the reason these polls are on ile are because a lot of ilxors dont read ilm and these songs are universally known and reviled by non music nerds and we all want to share our pain.

or balls put the first one on ile by mistake

Novocaine for the Soul

x-post does it matter?

Weren't Diswalla Christian or was that Jars of Clay or something?

all of these bands are clearly contemporary worship music listening jesus freaks tbh

1966 and 1984 are maybe the two best years for top 40 in the past half century

however I'm always happy to pile onto some terrible 90s jams. tho tbh I wish we could do the same thing with terrible 80s jams but everybody loves those

otm, I was weighing the feasibility of a poll between Steve Winwood "Higher Love" vs 10,000 Maniacs "What's the Matter Here?" vs Tracy Chapman "Fast Car" and the thing is that I still really like all of them.

tell me all your thoughts on god
(starts to say something)
because i'd really like to meet her
(jaw drops)

First semester of freshman year was Ace of Base, the Cranberries, and the Offspring.

Second half was Counting Crows, Blues Traveller, and, wait for it, Hootie & the Blowfish.

God, SO much Ace of Base was blasting out of dorm windows during move-in week

alanis looks like joni mitchell compared to a lot of this shit.

yeah I've come round to her in recent years even when I try to forget that stuff like "All I Really Want" is 4 Non Blondes with uh personality

who are dishwalla?

jars of clay jammed for the lord, and novocaine for the soul is grebt fuiud

Jars of Clay were Christian, hence the name "Jars of Clay":

The band's name is derived from the New International Version's translation of 2 Corinthians 4:7:

"But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us."

yeah I've come round to her in recent years

dead to me now

i remember a lot of civ and rancid and green day and, strangely, the charlatans.

also i will rep for gin blossoms at least circa doug hopkins

Taking Sides: Gin Blossoms vs. Toad The Wet Sprocket

better than ezra

the only offspring song i really liked (and i REALLY liked it) was 'gone away'

Adrian Belew produced Jars of Clay
Jerry Harrison produced The Verve Pipe

rip punk gods

Oh wait, AND Counting Crows.

On the plus side, Nirvana Unplugged and the Pulp Fiction soundtrack

also "Flood" was kind of a jam IIRC

Also nobody better step to August and Everything After.

the only offspring song i really liked (and i REALLY liked it) was 'gone away'

OTM!!!!!

waiitasec these threads are all like "old folks get in this treehouse now" dog whistle traps huh?

fucking LOVE 'flood' by jars of clay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfAhpX_wIBk

this is my jam

When did Alanis show up? First half or second half of 95?

Alanis Morrisette "Ironic" vs Ani DiFranco "Both Hands"

Isn't "Gone Away" the one that sounded just like Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da?

First half or second half of 95?

summer

the only offspring song i really liked (and i REALLY liked it) was 'gone away'

― balls, Monday, August 5, 2013

once more, i stand with balls.

Joan Osborne "What if God was One of Us" vs Sarah McLachlan "Angel"

what was hootie and the blowfish's biggest song? wonder if i actually know it from hearing it on vh1 years later (definitely never heard them at the time)

counting crows - mr jones was a sorta hit here i think. spin doctors had 2 massive massive hits but never heard of blues traveller.
Blind Melon had a hit too.

lol totally in sync with balls

hmpf that's an odd-looking sentence

no, i think that's 'get a job' or something. o man jamming to some j.o.c. right now.

i think alannis got big in the uk first as she toured a lot and played just about every festival imaginable. When she played t in the park i went into the dance tent but apparently she got a huge crowd.

hootie was prob "I Only Wanna be w You" or whatever it was called.

hootie's biggest song was 'only wanna be with you' iirc, with the dire espn-inspired video

balls u r right my bad

hootie's biggest song was 'only wanna be with you' iirc, with the dire espn-inspired video

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, August 5, 2013 2:56 PM

stopped watching "Friends" after a whole episode written about Hootie tickets, which presaged an entire summer in which the theme song blasted out of every pore

fwiw there's no such thing as 'christian rock', that's just how the devil tricks u into sin

also yeah wrt counting crows duritz is a clown but august and everything after is a solid record and "a long december" is untouchable

you know what Offspring song I love, is "Self Esteem"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkFH0KMO0G0

god that friends episode...

lol when that first counting crows came out i bought in totally - 'rem w/ van morrison on lead vocals - YEEEEEEEEEESSSSS', i remember this girl i was in love w/ right before she went away to school at wellesley and out of my life i gave her that cd. haven't spoken to her in nearly twenty years but often think that if i did run into her again one of the first things i would tell her is 'i don't really like counting crows anymore'.

dang i just realized that 'gone away' is in fact the one offspring song i also liked. thanks, balls!

idk what Hootie's biggest hit was but "Hold My Hand" was their most ridiculous

she probably remembers you as 'that one guy who was this super huge counting crows fan'

Hootie's other song is 'Time' which goes:

"Tiiiiii --- iii iiiiiimme, why you punish me?"

first Counting Crows album was the first and only time in my life that I returned an album to the store a few hours after buying it. I snapped the tape reel to get credit.

Also nobody better step to August and Everything After.

it is simply the worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln6WQqRDrCo

nah I dont know this

i do still love 'a long december' and his vocals on 'sixth avenue heartache' make that song for me as well. i prefer to think of that though as not me liking adam duritz as much as really really liking van morrison, yknow like a parent that drowns their children not cuz they hate their kids but becuz this world is filled w/ wickedness and sin and deep blue something.

lol how could I forget "the dolphins make me cry"

did the usa and anywhere else get the really awful UK band The Lighthouse Family?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqQS9PCZ8dA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1v5PjhbM8

You and me
We come from different worlds
You like to laugh at me
When I look at other girls
Sometimes you're crazy
And you wonder why
I'm such a baby
Cause the Dolphins make me cry
[Chorus:]
Well there's nothing I can do
I only wanna be with you
You can call me your fool
Only wanna be with you
Put on a little Dylan
sitting on a fence
I say that line is great
You ask me what I meant by
"Said I shot a man named Gray
Took his wife to Italy
She inherited a million bucks
And when she died it came to me
I can't help it if I'm lucky"
Only wanna be with you
Ain't Bobby so cool
Only wanna be with you
[Solo]
Yeah I'm tangled up in blue
Only wanna be with you
You can call me your fool
Only wanna be with you
Sometimes I wonder
If it will ever end
You get so mad at me
When I go out with my friends
Sometimes you're crazy
And you wonder why
I'm such a baby yeah
The Dolphins make me cry
Well there's nothing I can do
Only wanna be with you
You can call me your fool
Only wanna be with you
Yeah I'm tangled up in blue
Only wanna be with you

counting crows is like the dead cover band I saw in SC last month. all the notes are in the right place, and yet, one attempts to saw off one's own arm upon hearing it

xp: what the

HAI GUYS I USED TO HAVE HITS

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE3MzE5NTU4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTk1MzEwNA@@._V1._SY314_CR5,0,214,314_.jpg

ok so ho0tie fucking suck but I sort of know them not really but they're bffs with close family friends and I've met them and they're super super nice so I feel bad being too mean about them also they smoked me up in a limo in NYC so, you know, they ain't all that bad.

that was the biggest "rock" band in america for a depressingly long time

is the protagonist in that song a big football fan, because if not I just can't even

this is why I shouldn't have quit listening to lyrics

I'm genuinely happy Darius Rucker's better suited for country.

Sometimes I wonder
If it will ever end
It won't ever end,
it will never end.
It will never, never,
never, never end.
It will never end.
It will never end.
Well, there's nothing I can do.
I only wanna be with you.
You can call me a fool.
I only wanna be with you.

Hootie to Swans via simple processes of subtraction

lol ENBB that is awesome

is the protagonist in that song a big football fan, because if not I just can't even

this is why I shouldn't have quit listening to lyrics

― THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, August 5, 2013 3:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dan marino was in the video for this song!

although i never thought it was capital-d dolphins, i thought it was small-d dolphins, like he was really into animals or the environment or something

Crut the whole story is hilarious - I will have to tell you sometime.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/54839/dan-marino-freakout-o.gif

lol I never saw the video!

yeah the protag is darius and he's a huge dolphins fan. for someone from south carolina. i really don't have any issues w/ hootie, they were always a part of the same circuit/scene as dave matthews and i always focused my hatred on the real enemy. plus i'll be honest i'm a sucker for a solid baritone, same reason i couldn't really hate pearl jam even at the height of my indie snobbery.

I always legit liked this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXxqm6FW0A

Their cover of "I Go Blind" was good, too. And they covered one of my favorite bands, The Reivers, on their covers album, so I can't hate them entirely.

hootie sucks but they never really bugged me too much, mostly bc i don't think anyone ever took them seriously, they were just trying to be a jangly goodtime band without pretense. DMB was def worse, i mean the fatal stabs at poetry that band had were worse than anything hootie ever attempted.

"I Go Blind" by far their best song imo

Breakfast at Tiffany's is by FAAAAAAAR the worst of these four

we're fortunate here that hootie, bush, dave matthews band, candlebox and whoever never made it in the UK but WHY did the Fun Lovin Criminals?

Darius Rucker was just a phenomenon I didn't get -- he had this gratingly flat, depressive-sounding voice. He sounded like a past-his-prime version of himself for his entire career.

i don't think that was a style limited to d-ruck, i mean he was almost the least offensive of that whole gloomy lot

I blame WIQB-FM 102.9 Ann Arbor and my penchant for wandering around campus never not listening to a Walkman. So many terrible college AAA bands from the mid-90s alternative glut, but the station did play a couple local bands too, which is how I heard the Holy Cows, which led me to the Replacements.

Hootie & the Blowfish is an American rock band that formed in 1986 at the University of South Carolina by Darius Rucker, Dean Felber, Jim Sonefeld, and Mark Bryan. As of July 2010, the band had charted sixteen singles on various Billboard singles charts and recorded five studio albums; and their 1994 debut album, Cracked Rear View, was the 16th-best-selling album of all time in the US, having been certified platinum 16 times. The group was especially popular in Canada, having three number-one singles in the country.[1] They have sold over 20 million albums in the United States alone.

16x platinum??? fucking hell. They really were huuuuuge.I assume they made so much money there they didn't bother promoting them in europe.

how many have been in charity shops?

wow, this thread has spilled all over the map. would be into a hootie singles poll.

Deep Blue Something would make a better matchup with Dishwalla, for sure. I think their song is way less objectionable than "Zombie" as it's very clearly a more paisley-colored 'college rock' band of a few years earlier that bumbled their way into having a hit alt-rock song. They're a fallen version of James or a distant knockoff of REM; the Cranberries don't really enter into it I think. The lyrics are dumb, but the only real sin here is that the thing goes on for four and a half minutes with seemingly eighty repetitions of the chorus - chop it down to size and it's a pleasantly forgettable ditty.

"Zombie" is a trudge but it's fun to sing along to, precisely for how ridiculous the delivery is on "in your HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD." I also missed the era of its ubiquity so it was kind of an interesting curiosity to discover it, after the fact, via the To The Faithful Departed singles and hearing "Linger" at the grocery store. It's surely the worst Cranberries hit but I don't hate it the way other ILXors seem to.

"Zombie" isn't nearly as bad as "Salvation," IMO.

To all those people starting polls: don't do it. Don't do it.

I still recommend that everyone spend some quality time with the Cranberries song "Bosnia" if you would like to lol deep down in your bones

This is the thread where we write lyrics to songs by The Cranberries about the death of pop stars

To all those people Algerian Goalkeerp starting polls: don't do it. Don't do it.

With their polls,
And their goals
And their polls,
And their goals
Goalkeerp
Goalkeerp
Goalkeerp keerp keerp

:-D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asywK5J7LiU

I would like to state my vision
Life was so unfair
We live in our secure surroundings
And people die out there

Bosnia, was so unkind
Sarejevo, change my mind
And we all call out in despair
All the love we need isn't there
And we all sing songs in our rooms
SARAJEVO erects another tomb

SARAJEVO! SARAJEVO! SARAJEVO! SARAJEVO!
Bosnia, was so unkind
SARAJEVO! SARAJEVO! SARAJEVO!
Bosnia, was so unkind

Sure, things would change
If we really wanted them to
No fear for children anymore
There are babies in their beds
Terror in their heads
for the love of life!

When do the saints go marching in?
When do the saints go marching in?
When do the saints go marching in?
When do the saints go marching in?

Rummmpatitum, Rummmpatitum
Traboo, Traboo, Traboo

I would like to state my vision

SARAJEVO! SARAJEVO!
Bosneh, bosneh, bosneh eh eh

^fixed

dying

that's basically what it sounds like anyway, crut

And we all sing songs in our rooms

what the hell does this even mean

I think I'm the worst person on ILX
I hate Free Radicals, love What's Up and loved the first two and a bit of the third Cranberries albums, except Zombie which obviously sucks.

"I Just Shot John Lennon" by The Cranberries

It was the fearful night of December 8th.
He was returning home from the studio late.
He had perceptively known that it wouldn't be nice.
Because in 1980, he paid the price.

John Lennon died. [X6]

With a Smith & Wesson 38,
John Lennon's life was no longer a debate.
He should have stayed at home,
He should have never cared,
And the man who took his life declared,

He said I just shot John Lennon.
He said I just shot John Lennon.
What a sad and sorry and sickening sight.
What a sad and sorry and sickening night.
What a sad and sorry and sickening sight.
What a sad and sorry and sickening night.

Ah, ah ah ah, ah...

I just shot John Lennon.
He said I just shot John Lennon.
What a sad and sorry and sickening sight.
What a sad and sorry and sickening night.
What a sad and sorry and sickening sight.
What a sad and sorry and sickening night.

Ah, ah ah ah, ah...

boldface: Worst shit ever

He had perceptively known that it wouldn't be nice.
Because in 1980, he paid the price.

Oh dear god.

lololol

there was a new cranberries album last year i think. Wonder what the lyrics are like

I perceptively knew that they wouldn't be nice

Zombie should have gone up against
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rZ9-jbkl6k

nooooo

lol alfred

^^^^ sublime song, that. What the Cranberries SHOULD have been recording if they gave a shit about Shania Twain

The more I see the band name "Deep Blue Something," the angrier it makes me. It's like The Exploding Plastic Inevitable for soccer moms.

xp Breathless is great, I will not hear a bad word about it.

This fucking song played four times an hour the summer I worked in burger stand at Six Flags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f46ulX6uwGc

"Bittersweet Symphony" is still the worst song of the '90s, tho

why on Earth would the Cranberries give a shit about Shania Twain?

"Breathless" is from 2000 so it should go up against, idk, Vitamin C or Evan and Jaron or Nine Days

if they did they'd have hired Mutt Lange

(the idea of Dolores singing "Man (I Feel Like A Woman)" is going to haunt me for the rest of the evening)

that don't impress me much

go totally crazy
forget I'm a ZOMBIEH EH EH

djp will be imagining that even after his head hits the pillow

do your photoshop magic:

http://files.myopera.com/dany20mh/blog/1195225297_s_2.jpeg

dying

Dolores would change the words to i feel like afghanistan

Man! I feel like Afghanistan!
but don't you call me an Obama stan
I perceptively knew that it wouldn't be nice
to put the Al Qaeda man in ice

Whoa-oh-eh-eh-eh

I still don't know why this isn't on ILM, but it's finally bringing the quality lolz. I am off to investigate whether the Edie Brickell one is as good. Don't let me down, people.

not on ILM bc no one who loves music would open this thread amirite?

Other thread - mutilated animals and people hating on the New Radicals. I'm staying here.

How bad were the new radicals

eh, still really like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AjWmGd5qPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmK9uV9ApW0

DOLORES O'RIORDAN LYRICS

"Loser"

I'm sick and tired of people like you
You think you're clever but you haven't a clue
(what can you do?)

A two watt light bulb is brighter than you
I'm sick and tired of people like you

You want it, you got it
Come take it, it's over here
You want it, you got it
Come take it, is that not clear?
You want it, you got it
Come take it, I'll do it for you
You want it, you got it
Come take it, just cross the line

The moral of the adventure is this
Take me for granted you are taking the piss
(Who love is this?)

I'd rather wind up with nothing at all
Than take a loser like you through it all

You want it, you got it
Come take it, it's over here
You want it, you got it
Come take it, is that not clear?
You want it, you got it
Come take it, I'll do it for you
You want it, you got it
Come take it, just cross the line

Cross the line

Why loser, why?
Die Loser, die.

http://images3.makefive.com/images/entertainment/television/most-brilliant-simpsons-quotes/lawyer-tatoodie-bart-diesideshow-bobno-that_s-german-for-the-7.jpg

someone watch over dan he might choke when he reads those lyrics

(Who love is this?)

lol

is... is that real?

^^^missing lyric

yes its real http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/doloresoriordan/loser.html

watch the video too it has lyrics in it

a bit too late to deal with the actual poll question, but, so bad it's funny vs just fucking bad. just fucking bad is probably worse (tiffany's obv) and it gets stuck in my head every so often for some reason so it definitely gets my hate-vote

interesting that these songs are both 1995 to USians whereas on this side of the Atlantic iirc they were '94 (Zombie) and '96 and felt like a lifetime apart to me. meanwhile 2003 feels like yesterday. aging, huh.

also I love that terrible Primitive Radio Gods song. and ENBB is right that the Cranberries are terrible apart from one song but I pick "Linger" as their one non-terrible song even though the vocals still make me want to tweeze all my fingernails out and shove them down my ears.

confession: a friend talked me into going to see Eels this month so, you know, disregard my opinion on everything 90s

i thought you dealt with the poll question quite well

No its german for: the loser, the

It sounds like a stupid retort:

"That girl's got deep blue eyes!"
"I dunno, she's got deep blue SOMETHING. Know what I'm sayin?!"

deep blue something! my hat is like a shark's thing!

I think we can all be thankful that Deep Blue Something were not brought on to produce theme songs for any piece-of-crap late 90s movies.

I wonder how many horror songs from the 90s I've forgotten existed

I hated that Friends theme song. Had to switch the radio off when that rembrandts song was played.
Also that 74/75 song by the Connells ARGHHHHHH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ITv4OBV9c

Still the worst:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9C0VwruXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9C0VwruXE

casino's friends w/ that dude iirc

hahahaha what

i guess i'm friends with my dad, who liked the song. my mom made fun of it.

lol jk. casino i told you my 99x story right?

no! i think? maybe?

ok a friend of mine (who you may have met once, i know he came to a monkees power hour at indie rock karaoke once) works in radio, almost exclusively sports radio, but at the time (1999) he would pick up these weekend graveyard shifts at 99x from time to time. he was quitting that though and really wasn't worried about burning bridges there so his last shift we went down after hitting a couple of bars before hand and after an hour or so and after a few test shots to see if any of the suits or whatever were listening we just played what we felt like, all within reason all stuff that it was plausible 99x would play either cuz they did sorta at one point or in a parallel universe where 'cut yr hair' had really blown up in 94 maybe altrock radio would've been like this five years later - ton of local stuff (i remember macha went over really well and i was fielding calls from listeners wondering what it was they had to have it and having to explain to them what and where criminal records was), matador and kill rock stars stuff, nothing too surprising (though i do remember we played 'hobo humpin slobo babe' like every hour at my insistence). weirdly the station didn't 'track' (otherwise they wouldn't have needed someone to come in and work the graveyard shift) but they did have a typed playlist of what specifically was to be played when and some of that made the cut (well, 'steal my sunshine' did). anyhow i'm bored and wandering around the offices and there's signed framed posters everywhere, ppl like 311 etc and i can remember behind this old xerox machine in the back and behind it on the floor were framed signed posters from patti smith and bjork (there were others too i just specifically remember those cuz of the outrage). so then i'm wandering around and i'm in the program director's office and i've got to piss. and i have no idea where the bathroom is and i know nobody's going to be in here until monday so i just pissed all over his office floor. anyhow that's my 99x story. i'm not like esp proud of it but at the same time i'm not michael j fox at the end of casualties of war over it either.

i'm not like esp proud of it

you are though, arent you?

Breakfast at Tiffany's is so horrible. LET'S MAKE A CHORUS OF A TRANSCRIPTION OF A REALLY STUPID BORING CONVERSATION BETWEEN TWO ON THE OUTS LOVERS.

i don't like the song -- the finished product -- but that concept, written out like that, doesn't necessarily seem like a bad idea

AND I SAYS 'WHAT ABOUT, BREAKFAST AT STEAK 'N SHAKE"
SHE SAID "I DUNNO, CAN I GET EGGS THERE?"
AND I'M LIKE "YEA, AND THEY'VE ALSO GOT PANCAKES"
AND SHE SAID "OK, JUST GIVE ME FIVE MINUTES"

Breakfast at Tiffany's is still pretty inescapable, so that is worse by a landslide

idk if i hear it that much. maybe its ubiquity is just in your HeaAAAaadddd.

"Zombie" was kinda amusing because it was the Cranberries tryin to do 'the heaveh', but it was really just their same songwriting with the amps cranked up louder during the chorus.

still, those weird glottal things Dolores O'Riordan does in the verse are utterly horrifying...

xp i heard it last week in a Dunkin Donuts. inescapable.

I heard Jack Wagner's "All I Need" at a supermarket not that long ago. shook a stranger and screamed "WHAT DAY IS IT? WHAT YEAAAAAAAAAAAR?" Kyle Reese style.

Wagner's "neeeeeeed" epitomizes white boy soul

anyhow that's my 99x story

hahaha

Have we talked about the Wallflowers yet?

feel like we need an I Love Terrible Music board for these threads

I Hate (Some) Music

the Wallflowers avoid many of the cliches associated with these bands; Jakob Dylan would be a compelling songwriter if he had anything interesting to say though.

almost started a julian lennon vs wallflowers thread but what am i going to say, 'durr gee valotte's alright'?

only know "Much Too Late for Goodbyes"...

feel like wallflowers are 'better' on the whole but i find the julian lennon i like ('too late for goodbyes', 'now you're in heaven' iirc, 'valotte' against my better judgment) more interesting than the wallflowers i like ('sixth avenue heartache'), plus i find julian lennon just a terribly sympathetic figure.

a terribly sympathetic figure who found terrible sympathy in Bowie mimicry with Phil Ramone producing.

just child of divorce w/ a father who dies before he barely gets to know him would be bad enough but then 'o and also the father is an icon whose shadow you'll never escape on top of it'.

"Valotte" is a neat an approximation of his dad's balladry as anyone was capable in 1984, but then there's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NHEV7VH5EA

I have an inexplicable fondness for a handful of terrble 90s alt rock songs, including Breakfast at Tiffany's, Closing Time, and that one about Wao-ow it was gooood living with you wao-ow. It's indefensible and I'm not proud but I had to vote for Zombie.

Also LOL:

AND I SAYS 'WHAT ABOUT, BREAKFAST AT STEAK 'N SHAKE"
SHE SAID "I DUNNO, CAN I GET EGGS THERE?"
AND I'M LIKE "YEA, AND THEY'VE ALSO GOT PANCAKES"
AND SHE SAID "OK, JUST GIVE ME FIVE MINUTES"

― Neanderthal, Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:45 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

For some reason I distinctly remember Rick Dees making fun of Julian Lennon when he appeared on Solid Gold to sing "Valotte". He was all, "I thought 'sitting on a pebble' was a silly lyric until I saw Julian's butt. It is really that small!"

This is my lasting Julian Lennon memory, despite once owning his first two albums on cassette.

I have no real thoughts about Julian Lennon besides thinking he is mostly harmless but Sean Lennon thoroughly ruined Cibo Matto and deserves imprisonment as a result

btw re: this poll, at least "zombie" has an aesthetic even if it's totally objectionable

zombie is "head and shoulders" above this competition

zombie dandruff = reverse bootyflakes?

i get the first part of that

The Wallflowers comeback where he brought in Mick Jones and it sounds like a terrible outtake from Combat Rock was terrrrrible.

um, yeah, terrible

i don't like the song -- the finished product -- but that concept, written out like that, doesn't necessarily seem like a bad idea

― Treeship, Monday, August 5, 2013 9:43 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sort of like alt lit, eh?

(sorry, couldn't let it pass)

never hated zombie half as much as everyone else in this place. the lyrics are godawful, but i hardly notice that, and i love the HAIID in your HAIID zombie zombie zom BAY BAY BAY. i especially like if i never have to actually hear it and can just sing it sometimes to annoy others and please myself.

breakfast at tiffany's is like waking up with a cat turd under your tongue

there is a jukebox at this restaurant/bar near me and whenever i go there i play zombie. the guitar riffage sounds really good in that context.

also i really do love her singing even if i agree with c. that the lyrics are pretty thin/overwrought.

I like her voice much better on songs like "Linger", "Dreams", and lighter stuff like that

i think that is clearly a more comfortable range for her but the straining on zombie works, i think.

ok I'm going to be a dick here , but can we not fill ILE up with pointless comparison shit song polls? the original was a joke. setting off a string of trainspotty comparison polls because of it is kind of unfunny.

yeah they should have been on ilm but the ship has sailed

Its what I hate more than anything about ILM and why Im never there. Polls. Polls for the result of polls. Threads to discuss polling the polls for the poll dates and content and AFYEGFJEHGFJRHG jesus.

well the edie/4nb poll was pretty smart in terms of the two songs matched up, this one i don't really get.

xp it's in your head

ftr original poll was on ile by mistake

ilm: polling threads
ile: rolling threads

lol crut

I think the connection between the songs is that "Zombie" is about two people killed in an IRA bombing, and "Breakfast at Tiffany's" made all who heard it envy the victims.

I enjoy threads of terrible 90s memories

tbf i'm with Trayce on this, i stay the heck out of ILM

i love polls but that doesn't mean they're good for me

always vote for 'zombie' in any context

that's my philosophy, marty

That reminds me, Worlds End is on in the cinemas now.

this seems notable urdu cover of zombie that switches to english for some reason 1/2 way through. at a few points this woman is wearing makeup that looks sort of like corpse paint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-E1EdxcbG4

omg balls. Great story. No, you've never told me that before, and I didn't drink back then so I would remember! Somehow it's the shamed shuttering of ye olde college rock that most sticks out to me, although I do love, for ''moral victory'' reasons, the idea that 99X's listenership would have gone gaga for indie rock if it'd only been presented to then. (Tangent: they did introduce me to the Apples in Stereo through their 'Cage Match' feature playing ''Seemed So,'' and a year or so later they became the first band I ever saw at a club, notwithstanding the opener Azure Ray.)

Maybe it's because I just rewatched The Big Lebowski but the late 90s filter, the rug-pissing story, and call all destroyer echoing John Goodman ''say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos ...there's a pattern here, man. Lotta ins, lotta outs.

I like "Breakfast at Tiffany's"

ok I'm going to be a dick here , but can we not fill ILE up with pointless comparison shit song polls? the original was a joke. setting off a string of trainspotty comparison polls because of it is kind of unfunny.

― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce),

god, if it really offends people that much move it to ilm or ilf or something

Can you start a The Rembrandts - I'll Be There For You vs. Tal Bachman - She's So High poll while you're there?

because balls thread was on ile(i dont remember you complaining on that thread about it)

I just noticed this. I don't know what you mean by this reply, and I don't have time to read ILE every day/every single thread but these two are currently at the top of new answers and it seems very incongruous. Carry on.

hows life i dunno who tal bachman is
xp

will do

btw if it really does annoy people id ask on the mod thread to move them but then it would piss them off. but if a mod reading the thread thinks trayce is right and it should be moved to ilm then on you go. its no big deal and noones forcing anyone to click on it but whatever.

i'm annoyed by breakfast at tiffany's but mods haven't responded to my request for a target specific memory trepanning.

And she said "please don't post music polls on ILE"
and I said "I'd move it, but it might make the mods mad"
And she said "IIRC, that's the fucking point of Mod Request Forum"
And I said "Well, you may have a point"

(shitty guitar riff)

wasnt like that when djp was a mod!
xp

hows life i dunno who tal bachman is

He's the son of Randy Bachman of The Guess Who/Bachman Turner Overdrive fame, if nothing else.

"She's So High" is not a bad song. It's not exactly a good song, but it's not a bad song. Not the way "Breakfast at Tiffany's" is.

I'm only speaking for myself, its more the idea I think multiple pollls of results of polls are a bit sad. I was concerned it'd snowball into a pile of pollsanity. Dont GAF what I think tho. Carry on.

tbh I mostly was drawn to this thread because it finally gave me a place to spew my hatred towards this song.

(BAT, that is)

understandable

hate both of these, voted breakfast at tiffany's. in junior high i carpooled with a family to school and they had the single of this song with all the different versions and listened to it all the time. fuuuuuck this song sucks

all the different versions

aahahhhghhg new glimpses of hell

I mean at least Zombie is laughable and you can you can totally sing your own overwrought ridiculous version making fun of it, whereas that other song, whose title I don't even want to type, is just patently horrible with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Well OK Neanderthal's revised lyrics were good, but that is the sole mitigating factor here.

the BAT video did have some unintentional LOLs.

Like after every chorus, one of the guitar players did one of those patented rock star "leaps", as if he was playing some fiery cock-rock riff and not some shitty arpeggio that sounds like a MIDI file

I love the way that the singer is carrying around a book (Breakfast at Tiffany's, one reasonably assumes) at the beginning, looking all 90s sensitive guy.

was there a pejorative term coined for the type of rock that Dog's Eye View and Deep Blue Something made?

Better Than Ezrock

this one should be in the mix somewhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7TLTjqUyog

Better Than Ezrock

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha

I actually could tolerate CS a lot more in that middling "soft rock" mode, as opposed to their laughable attempts to rock a la "Where the River Goes"....

Start a thread, now, baby just spit me out.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Kinda shocking. Sorta thought ILX's hatred of the Cranberries was, well, the one thing we'd got.

man, not quite Tyson - Spinks, but a trouncing nonetheless.

4 Non-Blondes "What's Up" vs Edie Brickell "What I Am"

The 1990s Most Hated Song Final : 4 Non Blondes "What's Up" vs Deep Blue Something - "Breakfast At Tiffany's"

judging songs by what the spin doctors would think, what the hell, that is just perverse

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Monday, August 5, 2013 7:17 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The BAT chorus is rough, but its the versus that make you want to drive into oncoming traffic.

The chorus is like stream of consciousness horseshit.

Also the guitarist looked like a dork in the vid...ferociously leaping to strum his three clean chords

in 8th grade i carpooled to school with a family that had the BaT single and they would listen to it every single morning over and over, all the different versions on it, like we would drive to school every day and listen to breakfast at tiffany's every fucking day

Did u seek crisis counseling

You know Casey Kasem had to be saying "are you fucking kidding me?" every week.

damn it's traumatizing just reading that anecdote.

thanks to a C90 I had, in my head BaT will forever segue into ".. AND I WOULD WALK FIVE HUN DRED MUYLES AND I WOULD WALK FIVE HUNDRED MORE JUST TO BE THE MAN WHO WALKS A THOUSAND MUYLES TO FALL DOWN AT YOUR DOOR DUHDUTT DUHH DUHDUTT DUHH DUHDUTT DUH DUHDUTT DUH DUHDUHDUHDUNDUHDUHDUNDUHDUHDUNDUHDUHDUNDUHDUH DUHHHH