Jeff Bezos buys the Washington Post

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holy shit, imo

i too went to college (silby), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)

weird

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)

All Post writers to be seasonal temps working in unheated/uncooled warehouses.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:57 (twelve years ago)

Bezos: "Hey, what did you buy today?"
Brin: "Nothing special, bought an expensive hamburger"
Bezos: "Cool. I bought a newspaper."
Brin: "News-pap-per. Lol."
Bezos: "Lol."

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 5 August 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

All Post writers to be seasonal temps working in unheated/uncooled warehouses.

Richard Cohen, George Will, Sally Quinn, Jennifer Rubin, Charles Krauthammer...not seeing a down side here.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2013 21:04 (twelve years ago)

whoah

lol Ned

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 August 2013 21:05 (twelve years ago)

Makes perfect sense for Washington Post Co. to concentrate on Kaplan. All but a handful of high-profile newspapers will be owned by eccentric oligarchs in the future.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Monday, 5 August 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)

THE BEZOS BUGLE

Breaking news: Jeff Is Thinking of Buying an Island
Weather: Temperature At Jeff's house Is Currently 75 deg F
Money: Jeff Has LOTS!
TV: Jeff Thinks Those Kardashian Girls 'Have a Lot Of Potential'

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 5 August 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)

The good thing is he already knows how to run a company that makes no money.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 August 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)

^^ exactly my thought

i too went to college (silby), Monday, 5 August 2013 21:22 (twelve years ago)

Finally, maybe now we'll get a copy of Amazon in print form.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 August 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)

One of my favorite discussions is talking to people who own Amazon stock.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 00:08 (twelve years ago)

serious question from an ignoramus: if AMZN still doesn't make any money after all these years how does this guy have so much money? is it all based on expected growth of amazon?

tobo73, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 00:24 (twelve years ago)

Amazon has massive revenue but small net income if I understand.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 00:30 (twelve years ago)

That's not an unreasonable question to ask. There are a fair number of stocks that reach high valuations without actual "profits" because of exactly what you said -- expected growth/future profits. With Amazon, some observers have questioned those assumptions for a long time, which is why it's not unreasonable to be scratching your head a little. Regardless, his many shares of Amazon (plus, presumably, his previous high income and his high salary) have made him worth billions of dollars, hence he has the money to purchase WaPo out of his personal fortune.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 00:31 (twelve years ago)

he owns about 20% of Amazon iirc, so his stock on paper (which he can't really sell of course) is probably worth about $28 billion.

i too went to college (silby), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 00:32 (twelve years ago)

I didn't understand.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 00:33 (twelve years ago)

you're not wrong that they have massive revenue with little to no net income, that's just not the whole explanation. Companies that have massive revenue but no net income often watch their stock prices drop, not rise.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 00:59 (twelve years ago)

There have been a few Slate pieces (Slate now owned by Amazon? No, he just bought the paper, right, not WaPo Inc?) on how Bezos has been able to successfully deal with the shareholders, expanding the company without doing the profit dance shareholders usually demand.

Here's one: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/10/26/amazon_profits_they_don_t_exist_but_the_company_keeps_on_keeping_on.html

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 01:22 (twelve years ago)

he bought the Washington Post and some other local papers, but not Slate or the rest of the Post Co.

i too went to college (silby), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)

you're not wrong that they have massive revenue with little to no net income, that's just not the whole explanation. Companies that have massive revenue but no net income often watch their stock prices drop, not rise.

A lot of shareholders are hedging on Amazon's market entrenchment and distribution/logistics systems, which are significant. Many see AMZN as a long term play and actually a rather stable long term play given the massive revenues at stake. Amazon Prime and their cloud services have been game changers.

But like I said, it's usually a fascinating discussion with shareholders.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)

was wondering if there'd be a reference to John Mitchell's 1972 'wringer' comment in his letter and amazingly there is.

piscesx, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 04:34 (twelve years ago)

A lot of shareholders are hedging on Amazon's market entrenchment and distribution/logistics systems, which are significant. Many see AMZN as a long term play and actually a rather stable long term play given the massive revenues at stake. Amazon Prime and their cloud services have been game changers.

All of this is true, but it seems like the goalpoasts keep moving.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 04:39 (twelve years ago)

There's no trick to it, it's just a simple trick

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 04:44 (twelve years ago)

multi-billion-dollar companies HATE him

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 04:52 (twelve years ago)

it's amazing how low $250 mil sounds, lol newspapers

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 11:18 (twelve years ago)

a shame Bezos can't buy Howard Fineman, Bobby Woodward, Tina Brown -- stuck on "Morning Joe" -- and plunge them into a dungeon.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 11:24 (twelve years ago)

informative article:

..."Since inception Amazon has generated $20.2 billion from operations almost half of which ($8.6 B), has been used for capital expenditures such as new distribution centers, which improve life for the customer. In the past ten years the share base has only increased by just over 10% while the company has grown twelve-fold. For shareholders it doesn’t get better than that..."

https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130805231302-25760-stop-the-presses-a-new-press-lord-appears

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 11:44 (twelve years ago)

Top reporters still do important work, and hopefully Bezos will find a way to profit from it that's better than selling unpersonalized ads in a dying medium.

wombspace (abanana), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 12:17 (twelve years ago)

Amazon is basically becoming the Standard Oil of consumer products. Although Standard Oil was profitable much sooner.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)

Ok here's something I don't understand: Bezos pays $250m to the Washington Post Company for the Post and other properties, and WPO stock goes up by $31+/share, which times 7.4million shares is around $250 million. But it's not like the company just gained $250 million out of thin air, they sold assets that were arguably worth that amount, if not more.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 14:13 (twelve years ago)

WPO can reinvest the $250m money in Kaplan which is a profit-making business, unlike the Post. They've cut a loss-making arm that wasn't relevant to their core business and can now put more money into (i'd guess) expanding test prep and colleges in China.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 14:22 (twelve years ago)

First act of Bezos (retrospectively, via time machine): prevent Richard Cohen from writing about the time he was cheated on.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 14:22 (twelve years ago)

Hurting I know that you know that stock prices (can) go up on speculation, and the speculation (I guess) is that dropping off bad assets can increase the future value of shares (in the eyes of some investors.) And also, not really sure if it's wise to speculate on the exact amount of increased share value based on one day of trading but certainly there are buyers at the end of the day who are making decisions based on market cap.

That Cohen column is mind boggling.

Also: http://www.jackflack.com/2013/08/06/parsing-jeff-bezos/

xp

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 14:48 (twelve years ago)

I hate MG but this is interesting:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/05/bezos-not-bozos/

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 21:49 (twelve years ago)

I had always known precisely how I would react if she cheated on me. The relationship would end, swiftly, coldly, even sneeringly. My goodbye lines would be scathing, worthy of someone intending to make his living with words

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 21:59 (twelve years ago)

That techcrunch article doesn't amount to much more than "Bezos is really smart, so he must know what he's doing with this." Maybe he just thinks the Washington Post is undervalued. Buffet thinks newspapers are undervalued too. Bezos doesn't happen to have any special knowledge of the newspaper industry, afaik, he's just making a bet. He might be right or wrong, but I don't see how it plays into some grand strategy (particularly as it's Bezos himself buying WaPo, not Amazon).

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 22:08 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

Bloomberg story on Jeff Bezos

• Boss lacks empathy, creates billion-dollar corporation, doesn't know or care about real dad who abandoned him.

• Weird to see Walmart as the underdog taking a loss.

• These door desks, if there is a scourge of the 90s, it's these whimsical ideas about work culture - from bouncy balls in the hallways to these door desks. I don't even like casual Fridays, so maybe I just hate fun.

• Former president of my company used to send me ? emails. I sent him back replies that said ?? a couple of times. Then again, he wasn't Jeff Bezos either.

pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)

The door desks are, hypothetically, "frugal" and are not particularly whimsical. There's really very little whimsy here. Compared to Google offices which generally seem to be described as expensive playgrounds for programmers.

The laugh is definitely distinctive and disturbing though, even experiencing it from a distance at one of those KeyArena Q+As.

i too went to college (silby), Thursday, 10 October 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)

whimsy's not the right word, but the whole Think Different by doing goofball shit.

pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)

even frugal is questionable--i thought i remembered reading somewhere that they effectively break even after the necessary mods

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 10 October 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)

iirc the desk doors are a monument to frugality, but normal cheap desks would be waaay actually more frugal.

its ostentatious underconsumption

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Friday, 11 October 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)

lol yeah that sounds about right. It's not like Seattle doesn't have an Ikea.

i too went to college (silby), Friday, 11 October 2013 07:35 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1aajuNUcAEZwj1.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:01 (nine years ago)

omg

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:02 (nine years ago)

What's the estimate on the number of WaPo staff members currently cleaning out their desks?

DJ Untz Hall (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:06 (nine years ago)

I'm missing something here.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 January 2017 17:52 (nine years ago)

thats the dude symbol in the cover. it has a penis. the womens symbol has a plus.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 5 January 2017 17:53 (nine years ago)

lol epic fail

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 January 2017 17:54 (nine years ago)

hahaha

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 5 January 2017 17:55 (nine years ago)

got it!

Jeff, Thursday, 5 January 2017 17:56 (nine years ago)

I was looking for a typo.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 January 2017 17:57 (nine years ago)

haha my goodness

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:13 (nine years ago)

at least they made it pink

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:17 (nine years ago)

Since November the Post has been by far the place I've read the most anti-Trump articles, far more than NYT

Bnad, Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:22 (nine years ago)

If WaPo is anything like NYT, its never had as strong a subscription campaign as the Trump victory.

Somehow, I suspect Trump will also be paradoxically good for Prius and Tesla sales. "We can't depend upon Fed incentives anymore"...

Least-satisfying overall (Sanpaku), Thursday, 5 January 2017 19:41 (nine years ago)

has anyone made that cover blunder into the prince manwoman insignia yet

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:59 (nine years ago)

Hand to heart, I've been wondering the same thing. And also wishing that they'd made that mistake instead.

Grand Moff Tarkus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:01 (nine years ago)

There's remarkably few stock images for "female symbol crowd". On the other hand, there's plenty of image taken of this Filipino assembly for Int'l Woman's Day, 2014.

http://www.usasianpost.com/wp-content/uploads/women.jpg

Least-satisfying overall (Sanpaku), Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:14 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

Bezos eats an iguana

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiVjJ7RgJlq/

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 4 May 2018 21:11 (seven years ago)

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/the-freshman-komodo-dragon-2.jpg?quality=95&w=600

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 4 May 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)

lizard person is cannibal

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 4 May 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)

Bezos eats an iguana

oh goody! with a bit more digital magic we can have him eating whatever we want right out of our hands.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 5 May 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)

https://addictedtohorrormovies.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/dream-device.jpg

Zhoug speaks to you, his chosen ones (Sanpaku), Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)

three months pass...

On the top of the WaPo website, just beneath the bona fides, there's a little row of clickbait stories. They're horrible, but usually at least one looks passably interesting. Today, though, they reached their nadir:

Tucker Carlson John McCain Drug tunnel Cancun 'Free range' parents Yoga ball White males Therapy ducks Hurricane Lane Robin Leach Urban Meyer Kyrie Irving

remy bean, Friday, 24 August 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)

that unit pretty routinely begs for copy-pasting

John McCain Drug tunnel Cancun

faculty w1fe (silby), Friday, 24 August 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)

brooklyn's got a winning team

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 August 2018 00:44 (seven years ago)

British politician sex

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 25 August 2018 07:53 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

Good to see some of Jeff Bezos' money trickling down to...David Geffen

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-12/bezos-sets-record-with-165-million-beverly-hills-home-purchase

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:01 (six years ago)

Bought a 2nd house in DC too, plus buying art. Trump’s personal and corporate tax rates are working well for him. He pays nothing

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 February 2020 02:57 (six years ago)

well someone's getting Aerosmith back

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 February 2020 03:04 (six years ago)

one year passes...

pic.twitter.com/TVBnIYPtyL

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) June 10, 2021

just checking to see if democracy has died in the dark yet

calzino, Friday, 11 June 2021 07:05 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3ju6TRWUAADR02?format=jpg&name=large

Opinions by
Megan McArdle

calzino, Friday, 11 June 2021 07:09 (four years ago)

ten months pass...

lotta people upset about the "Libs of Tiktok" lady getting "doxxed" today! I forget, is freedom of speech bad now?

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 14:53 (four years ago)

one month passes...

#wiegeled

mookieproof, Monday, 6 June 2022 22:59 (three years ago)

Seems like an overreaction

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 00:17 (three years ago)

perhaps. but also perhaps karma for the worse things he's tweeted

nevertheless, i have no idea how FS continues to work in that environment

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 00:37 (three years ago)

welp

WaPo has fired Felica Sonmez. https://t.co/nT6ch0lIsc

— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) June 9, 2022

mookieproof, Friday, 10 June 2022 00:35 (three years ago)

Damn, they suspended Weigel for that? Whatever happened to the whole “retweets are not endorsements” thing?

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 10 June 2022 02:02 (three years ago)

two years pass...

https://i.imgur.com/GPLjwwB.png

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 4 January 2025 18:46 (one year ago)

Yeah, saw that. https://open.substack.com/pub/anntelnaes/p/why-im-quitting-the-washington-post

trm (tombotomod), Saturday, 4 January 2025 18:56 (one year ago)

one month passes...

“I’m writing to let you know about a change coming to our opinion pages. We are going to be writing every day in support and defense of two pillars: personal liberties and free markets,” Bezos said.

For me, 'personal liberties' are the freedom to assemble, freedom of speech in opinion pieces, and freedom from fucking cops hassling me
'Free markets' is the flea market - everything else is an illusion

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 21:40 (one year ago)

Hamilton Nolan called it in 2021:

Bezos has given the paper the resources to be bigger and better, and, by most accounts, pretty much stayed out of the newsroom’s hair, besides appearing one day to present a bicycle to former editor Marty Baron. ... There is no guarantee, however, that that will always be true. No one as central to a nation’s fundamental political and economic issues–inequality, corporate power, the future of work–as Jeff Bezos can stay out of the mud of the public discourse forever.

... The wealthy read their own press, and they don’t like things they own to work directly against their interests. These two facts mean that the editorial independence of the Post should never be taken for granted. I doubt there would ever be anything so gauche as a call from Bezos directly to the paper’s editor. But when both sides know that the economic fate of the paper and all of its employees is completely in one man’s hands, unmistakable signals can be sent, if Bezos chooses to send them.

I'm sure Bezos would say that he's still not interfering with the newsroom, only with the opinion page. But this is much farther than a lot of people ever thought he would go.

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 21:49 (one year ago)

four months pass...

Liberal opinion columnists Philip Bump, Perry Bacon Jr., and Jonathan Capehart have all left the paper this week. (Bump and Capehart announced that they had accepted buyouts; Bacon announced that he had accepted a position at the New Republic.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 16:34 (nine months ago)

And Alexandra Petri left a couple of months ago.

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 16:34 (nine months ago)

This comes after a letter last week from the new opinion editor, Adam O'Neal:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:efxbtouacf2s2pzcvuv47ns2/bafkreiawwlmahq2xr5dcee5kwwk7akzifb5hwxnw3rv2sx5nnizvxhmttm@jpeg

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 16:41 (nine months ago)

"Advocating for free markets and personal liberties will be critical... It is also important that we communicate with optimism about this country and the future in general."

-- Adam O'Neal --

"You can have any color of Model-T that you want, as long as it's black."

-- Henry Ford --

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 July 2025 17:03 (nine months ago)

Speaking of which, Karen Attiah noted that she's "the last Black staff columnist left in the Washington Post's opinion section." There were at least three others a few months ago: Bacon, Capehart, and Eugene Robinson.

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 19:36 (nine months ago)

...and Catherine Rampell out, too. Whew.

jaymc, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 23:22 (nine months ago)

two weeks pass...

Glenn Kessler sucks, but this is quite damning of the new leadership at the Post:

glennkessler.substack.com/p/why-i-left-the-washington-post

jaymc, Thursday, 7 August 2025 13:06 (eight months ago)

one month passes...

Speaking of which, Karen Attiah noted that she's "the last Black staff columnist left in the Washington Post's opinion section."

And now she's been fired for her Bluesky posts about the Charlie Kirk killing, expressing sentiments that would not be out of place in an opinion column:
https://karenattiah.substack.com/p/the-washington-post-fired-me-but

jaymc, Monday, 15 September 2025 12:38 (seven months ago)

I came here to post the very thing.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 September 2025 12:49 (seven months ago)

Matt Murray and new op editor doing so much damage to my hometown paper

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 September 2025 13:25 (seven months ago)

she's not the last black staff columnist. but very sad about this

fpsa, Monday, 15 September 2025 18:41 (seven months ago)

in her substack, she said she had been the "last remaining Black full-time opinion columnist" at the Post. maybe full-time is the important qualifier there? idk.

jaymc, Monday, 15 September 2025 19:18 (seven months ago)

my guess would be "opinion" as opposed to finance (e.g. Michelle Singletary) or other depts

Noob Layman (WmC), Monday, 15 September 2025 19:36 (seven months ago)

Sure, but I said "opinion" back in July. Not sure what fpsa is arguing with.

jaymc, Monday, 15 September 2025 19:42 (seven months ago)

Colby King is still a full time columnist I think. Don't want to focus too much on it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/colbert-i-king/

fpsa, Monday, 15 September 2025 20:13 (seven months ago)

No, he retired this month or is about to: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/20/colbert-king-retiring-washington-post-35-years/

Noob Layman (WmC), Monday, 15 September 2025 20:18 (seven months ago)

at least we can all agree the overwhelming direction of their opinion section is going to shit regardless of who the last one standing is

slowly imploding (mh), Monday, 15 September 2025 20:29 (seven months ago)

four months pass...

Things continuing to unravel there. Unclear so far how many total cuts, but it's a lot.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/04/media/washington-post-layoffs

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 15:01 (two months ago)

how did that work out?

In May 2024, CEO and publisher William Lewis announced that the organization would embrace artificial intelligence to improve the paper's financial situation, telling staff it would seek "AI everywhere in our newsroom."[86]

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 15:45 (two months ago)

Apparently The Post has laid off every reporter and editor covering the Middle East. Jerusalem bureau closed. Also Ukraine bureau closed.

— Robert McCartney (@McCartneyWP) February 4, 2026

"Bengla Desh" LP Deliveries To Meet Santa's Deadline (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 16:46 (two months ago)

Looking forward to the WaPo editorial board endorsing these moves because they prove that their newspaper is boldly unafraid of provoking controversy.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 18:22 (two months ago)

I was just laid off by The Washington Post in the middle of a warzone. I have no words. I'm devastated. https://t.co/dVCLF39YV1

— lizzie johnson (@lizziejohnsonnn) February 4, 2026

"Bengla Desh" LP Deliveries To Meet Santa's Deadline (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 18:25 (two months ago)

gives new meaning to the term 'severance'

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 18:26 (two months ago)

what is the current calculation of the % of bezos' net worth it would take to fund the washington post entirely by himself for a year

z_tbd, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 18:36 (two months ago)

dunno, but it would be below 1%

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 18:37 (two months ago)

there just aren't enough guillotines

omar little, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 18:39 (two months ago)

Let’s not forget Jared Kushner and the NY Observer and Thiel and Gawker. Completely reprehensible pattern. Look forward to whatever dark secrets emerge about the NYT in like twenty years time.

colonic interrogation (gyac), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 18:41 (two months ago)

The NYT's failures and flaws are pretty evident, but the thing that makes them different structurally than pretty much all the rest of the major news organizations is that all they are is the New York Times. They're not just one small part of some billionaire's holdings. Unlike Bezos they can't afford to throw away hundreds of thousands of subscribers, e.g. And since the Sulzbergers maintain voting control, they are somewhat insulated from stock market swings and so forth. They do some bad things, and there's a lot they don't do that I wish they did, but they are at least a newspaper that is run for the primary purpose of being a newspaper.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 19:14 (two months ago)

I don't begrudge anyone who has decided that the things they don't like about the NYT are enough to make them unsubscribe or otherwise not support the paper. But I also can't help observing that all of the articles that come in for (often quite justifiable) opprobrium online represent a tiny fraction of what the paper publishes. ("Roughly 150 pieces of journalism each day" is the current estimate.) There is a lot of good work that is being done, even if there are some high-profile failures.

Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 19:22 (two months ago)

i subscribe to the Times. it’s got good reporting on most things and good arts coverage .

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 19:26 (two months ago)

Yeah I do too, for same reasons.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 19:44 (two months ago)

Speaking of arts coverage, Chris Richards (WaPo pop music critic) has announced he's one of the many layoffs.

Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 20:49 (two months ago)

We held on to our Post sub through a lot of shit the past year and a half because news side was still fairly strong, but this was a self-inflicted wound too far.

WmC, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:04 (two months ago)

Aw sorry to hear about Chris Richards. I met him sometime back, seemed like a good guy.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:11 (two months ago)

I throw the Guardian a few bones now and then (not a real subscriber) but this makes me consider supporting them more so they don't have to go the asshole oligarch route to survive

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:15 (two months ago)

We canceled when they waffled on the 2024 endorsement, but this still makes me sad. I grew up with this paper, reading it almost daily, I remember when Bloom County started running!

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:18 (two months ago)

I kept threatening to drop both the Post and NY Times for a couple years, only to cave when they'd give me a year for $3/month or something but hit the breaking point some time before the 2024 election and wrote angry little notes in the box on their unsubscribe page and haven't looked back since

mh, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:36 (two months ago)

I mentioned this in the main political thread: the good buddy who works as the leader of the design team I mentioned officially got his layoff notice this morning, he and his pregnant wife.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:39 (two months ago)

Sorry for everyone, just fucking sucks.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:44 (two months ago)

We canceled when they waffled on the 2024 endorsement, but this still makes me sad. I grew up with this paper, reading it almost daily, I remember when Bloom County started running!

Pretty much the same for me. Loved getting home delivery until the non-endorsement. Cancelled that day.

tobo73, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:45 (two months ago)

I wonder how much of this is cost-cutting and how much is getting rid of people who won't get in line with an editorial shift to the right.

"Bengla Desh" LP Deliveries To Meet Santa's Deadline (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:47 (two months ago)

costs are irrelevant (bezos' left toenail is worth more than the washington post)

he's doing this to destroy the paper

z_tbd, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:49 (two months ago)

yup

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:50 (two months ago)

Cancelled that day

apparently you weren't alone... that mass die-off event is described as a major factor in their current woes

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:51 (two months ago)

good

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:51 (two months ago)

well, not really on second thought, I'd prefer an alternate history where Bezos didn't buy it

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:52 (two months ago)

Sabrina Imbler‬
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"For all of his grandstanding horseshit, Bezos has pretty quickly lost interest in operating a publication that might ever, even by accident, express or defend or otherwise illuminate ideas that oppose his own."

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 21:55 (two months ago)

Soon they'll be announcing a WaPo/DraftKings partnership

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:00 (two months ago)

this is shitty news and i'm generally pro reporting and stuff. i will say that i hit news exhaustion about halfway through trump's first term and ever since i've been consuming less and less news. now i'm basically not consuming any news at all beyond catching downstream waves from people's insta stories (that i quickly skip if they're trump/politics) and finding myself inevitably clicking on politics threads here now and again. i quit twitter/x years ago. i never check news sites. i filter out posts from the local paper or local news orgs i see on fb. maybe it's related to the smaller amount of news i see now, but i just can't read anything from any "news institution" and not choke on the self-regard and the obvious drama bait pov. nytimes copy is basically unreadable to me now. i saw some sponsored post facebook showed me from ap news the other day that was something like "it's possible to not have a purpose in your life and still be happy :)" and was like jesus christ i don't miss this kind of bullshit.

so yeah, i have absolutely no regrets. i feel like as a college educated man i was fed this idea that to not look at news was some kind of grave sin. i see that idea repeated from friends now and internally i'm just like "what absolute horseshit". it's just a total lie. i'm so much happier focused on things that actually matter. my life in front of me and the people irl i encounter daily. the present moment and the time and space that i occupy. i've seen enough of the world to know that empires run on blood and tragedy occurs every day. repeating that knowledge just doesn't serve me at all anymore. obviously different people have different tolerance levels when it comes to the news but i want to give a big smile and sparkling expression to anyone who may be thinking "do i really need to look at the washington post any more?" no. no, you don't. and it's very likely you'll be happier for it. there is a lot out there that is actually a good thing and virtuous to be ignorant of, to avoid completely, imho. it might have been quite different before the internet but those old adages about "staying informed" just don't track any more afaict.

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:01 (two months ago)

I guess we just have to hope there isn't a number that the families who own the Times decide they can't walk away from. Because if you're a scumsucking billionaire pos I don't know why you wouldn't be desperately trying to buy them off and then dismantle that publication too. At that point journalism writ large in America really is dead.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:03 (two months ago)

I read a newspaper every day for about 40 years until the Post did the non-endorsement. I also quit for my mental health to avoid reading about atrocities every day that I could do nothing about.

I guess if I were to read the Post now I would learn that actually everything is doing great!

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:04 (two months ago)

I read a newspaper every day for about 40 years until the Post did the non-endorsement. I also quit for my mental health to avoid reading about atrocities every day that I could do nothing about.

I guess if I were to read the Post now I would learn that actually everything is doing great!

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:05 (two months ago)

apparently Kara Swisher wants to get a group together to buy the Post. I think that'd be better, but also... god am I tired of her history of whitewashing silicon valley

mh, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:07 (two months ago)

Maybe it’s the Protestant in me and I’ve swallowed the propaganda that one person can make a difference, etc; or being of a German ethnic background raised in Minnesota among Scandinavian Lutherans and living WWII vets, and being told about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, “there was no one left to speak up for me” etc.; and taught from a very young age that the German people are collectively responsible for the atrocities of the Holocaust and that for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing, etc. I’ve absorbed by what may be a neurotic feeling that I have to know what is going on, that to not know about the crimes of the country I was born into is a moral failing for which the future will judge me harshly, and that I have the duty to DO SOMETHING about it.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:22 (two months ago)

it's such common received wisdom but if you start to think about some of the assumptions and arguments baked in that stuff even for a minute its insanity and status as pure ideology will start to reveal itself! the only people who will judge you are your children / family / close friends and the people you encounter day to day in-person (and to a much lesser degree online) based on how kindly you treat them and how much love you are able to give them.

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:28 (two months ago)

an idea i will hazard to put out there in this thread, with the awareness that it is tricky to express, is that there is a bit of an obsession with the holocaust in the liberal imagination, that its role and importance is a little overblown if you take into account the entire history of racial violence that accompanies the human experience since time immemorial, that the strange particularities and confluence of specific contextual events that led to it all happening are too often taken out of context and generalized about to serve ideological ends that feed on people's basic sense of decency and conscience. history actually never repeats itself! the particularities of history never do. many things change hopelessly and ceaselessly. the central battles of human psychology and conscience remain essentially the same, but how they play out look very different from one era to the next as material circumstances of the human experience on this planet push into new spaces continually. i think anyone positing that a particular set of things that happened 100 years ago are going to happen today especially if you stop checking news sites on your phone or whatever are not really thinking it through, or are not admitting how much they don't know.

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:38 (two months ago)

did the idea of "owning the libs" exist 100 years ago? i don't think it did. but i see that as the driving force behind the right's embrace of fascist aesthetics - the online attention economy. are the results the same? a systematic purge of an entire racial group? i don't think they're the same at all. i see trumpism and today's situation much more as a continuation of an era of randomized and dispersed violence that emerged in tandem with mass media in the 60s and 70s, that continued on into the kind of warfare that the u.s. embraced from the 70s onward, into the age of terrorism and etc., breaking along the racial and class lines that they always have. most of the violence happening around us is on our streets where homeless people are being harassed and "made temporary" to death. take a walk around your city and you'll get a lot more pertinent news about how violence is working now than looking at any news masthead or doomscrolling online will. state violence doesn't need to be bureacratized and orchestrated anymore and "knowing" about what the state is up to through the smokescreen of media institutions is mostly misdirection.

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 22:53 (two months ago)

As a bisexual descendant of slaves who possibly would never had been born had my great-grandfather not been lynched in 1948, I feel pretty strongly that map‘s conclusions are deeply ahistorical and easily disproven by five seconds of googling

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:03 (two months ago)

Which is to say, the abstract policies of „the state“ both reflect and are driven by local conditions. It’s a symbiotic relationship and divorcing them from each other loses important context necessary for driving lasting change

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:06 (two months ago)

i absolutely agree with that fwiw. and i see what you mean. one example, besides the big one that your experience speaks to, might be if my city and state decided to give more support to a more humane program for homeless people. the people out there who believe in making those changes happen and work with the state to do so are heroes. i'm not built that way but it doesn't mean i don't admire that kind of progress. or that i don't think and believe that big progress has been made in the last 100 years.

the question of whether consuming news affects any of that seems a little different to me though...

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:14 (two months ago)

did the idea of "owning the libs" exist 100 years ago?

in europe and the USA 100 years ago the analog to our culture wars, just as in the USA of today, had a strong underpinning of religious conservatism reacting against the upsurge of modernism and the rejection of the patriarchy by women, by militant socialists, and just generally by the backlash against authority brought on by WWI. But then, it was the liberals mocking the reactionaries.

"owning the libs" is unusual, because it's a theatrical and frivolous manifestation of reactionary politics, which usually is far more solemn. it feels to me like an outgrowth of Yippie tactics of 1968, but really blossoming out via the internet. they especially love to adopt our language and pervert it to their own ends. the MAGA think it's hilarious.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:15 (two months ago)

yeah but we took back the frog!

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:16 (two months ago)

@grok please summarize whatever the fuck map is talking about

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:19 (two months ago)

lol sorry guys. i know yall are close to the media and have friends who are affected. didn't mean to go on a galaxy brain tear itt.

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:33 (two months ago)

tldr life goes on without the washington post and there's even still a lot of good stuff with less media saturation in ur life

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:36 (two months ago)

yes

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:38 (two months ago)

ofc billionaires shouldn't exist and whatever can lead to less of them or fewer people with unlimited power and more social conscience generally and less psychotic hyperindividualism we really need it.

map, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:41 (two months ago)

“owning the libs” wasn’t against the libs per se but doing venally petty and evil things even when they collectively make your life or even your country worse absolutely was a thing

mh, Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:41 (two months ago)

ending wapo won’t end america’s or anyone’s billionaire crisis.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 23:44 (two months ago)

I was almost used to things I liked or enjoyed or at least relied on enshittifying. But this hurts me deep.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 5 February 2026 00:15 (two months ago)

being wrecked by the whims of unfettered capitalism

mh, Thursday, 5 February 2026 00:16 (two months ago)

As someone else pointed out, if you can't make money running a high profile D.C. sports section, that's outright incompetence. That may very well be the cast, but things like the Post or CBS or whatever else these chumps want to destroy, they are tremendously valuable properties, so the fact that they are being allowed to be gutted just emphasizes the vindictiveness of the actions.

Maybe the Onion will buy the Post.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 February 2026 00:23 (two months ago)

I don't read the news either. I didn't even know who was in the Super Bowl until the squares went up yesterday.

pplains, Thursday, 5 February 2026 00:44 (two months ago)

They slashed much of the arts coverage including editor Jon Fischer ( who was once a great Washington City Paper writer & editor where I knew him and he edited my stuff), and classical music critic Michael Andor Brodeur. Also the book section, the sports section, and more .

curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 February 2026 03:31 (two months ago)

tldr life goes on without the washington post and there's even still a lot of good stuff with less media saturation in ur life

― map, Wednesday, February 4, 2026 6:36 PM

Well, sure! I sleep easily eight hours a night. And we absolutely need national newspapers with investigative budgets.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 February 2026 03:40 (two months ago)

That right wing Brit guy Will Lewis who Bezos hired as publisher (despite his involvement in a phone hacking scandal in the UK) is such a jerk--

From a former Washington Post writer's article in the Atlantic:

Post leadership—which did not even have the courage to address their staff in person—then left everyone to wait for an email letting them know whether or not they had a job. (Lewis, who has already earned a reputation for showing up late to work when he showed up at all, did not join the Zoom.)

curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 February 2026 04:32 (two months ago)

Did they keep Chris Richards?

Heez, Thursday, 5 February 2026 05:20 (two months ago)

Did they keep Chris Richards?

Heez, Thursday, 5 February 2026 05:20 (two months ago)

Is slate owned by bezos as well?

Heez, Thursday, 5 February 2026 05:31 (two months ago)

Bezos doesn't own Slate, it's part of the rest of what used to be the Washington Post Co. (now Graham Holdings) — the part that Bezos didn't buy.

Chris Richards was laid off, yes.

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisrichards.bsky.social/post/3me2jk6jj7s24

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 February 2026 05:35 (two months ago)

Well glad my buddy got out of slate when he did regardless. Not sure where to get local news now. Please don’t say popville

Heez, Thursday, 5 February 2026 06:02 (two months ago)

popville

trm (tombotomod), Thursday, 5 February 2026 06:31 (two months ago)

Gentrification complete

Heez, Thursday, 5 February 2026 06:43 (two months ago)

"WTOP," she said grudgingly.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 5 February 2026 11:07 (two months ago)

arlnow I guess

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 5 February 2026 13:14 (two months ago)

Wtf

Former Washington Post reporters launch GoFundMe to help repatriate international staff who was fired and now facing logistical challenges getting out of their countries and back home. https://t.co/sXGJaUKnR2

— Andrew Leyden (@PenguinSix) February 7, 2026

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 February 2026 15:17 (two months ago)

Makes u think twice about going into space in a Bezos rocket.

"Bengla Desh" LP Deliveries To Meet Santa's Deadline (President Keyes), Sunday, 8 February 2026 16:01 (two months ago)

For some reason I thought he shut that program down, too.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 February 2026 16:14 (two months ago)

no that is why he’s kissing up to Trump so those rocket contracts keep coming

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 8 February 2026 16:59 (two months ago)

two months pass...

Did we all see this?

https://i.postimg.cc/LXF4V8fg/wp.png

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:12 (six days ago)

yup

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:18 (six days ago)

i guess it's like kicking a dead horse at this point

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:19 (six days ago)

i canceled my subscription when they refused to endorse a presidential candidate and missed the arts coverage, but ever since they axed all the arts coverage I cared about I have no regrets.

The New Blockader (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:28 (six days ago)

xp on what basis do they distinguish them

strictly hard music (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:29 (six days ago)

does who distinguish what?

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 22:07 (six days ago)

lol

"For them, disenfranchising Republican voters is the only way to counterbalance the desperate attempts by Republicans in other states to save their congressional majority. They’re right that the GOP started this fight by trying to pick up five House seats in Texas through gerrymandering, but they can spare us the false sanctimony about democratic norms going forward.

Both parties have contributed to this mess, and no one knows who will come out ahead. It was never clear that the mid-decade redistricting ploys by Republicans, such as those in Texas and North Carolina, would be enough to prevent defeat in the midterms."

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 22:14 (six days ago)

It was bad those guys started the fight, but punching back is just going too far.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 23:41 (six days ago)

One of the writers they didn’t fire, Marc Thiessen, wrote a column this month advising Trump to murder the Iranian negotiators if they don’t agree to a deal quickly.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 23:50 (six days ago)

democracy sighs in darkness

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 23:58 (six days ago)

One of the writers they didn’t fire, Marc Thiessen, wrote a column this month advising Trump to murder the Iranian negotiators if they don’t agree to a deal quickly.

― JoeStork, Wednesday, April 22, 2026

Then he went to a Cheap Trick concert in Richmond.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2026 00:01 (five days ago)

!

curmudgeon, Saturday, 25 April 2026 16:16 (three days ago)


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