This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2013

btw Eric, detrius has started w/ Taiwan's Golden Horse nominations
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, October 3, 2013 1:43 PM (1 minute ago)

THE LIVING HISTORY OF DETRIUS:
This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2012
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end-of-2006 film stuff (detrius 2, the Richard Donner Cut)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tctgUr147zA

Any year with a Dickhouse Production is a year in which I only have to figure out the other 9 slots in my year-end list.

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-golden-horse-awards-2013-nominations

xpost

until I googled, assumed this was yr pet name for Mirimax.

Did anyone see Gandolfini's last movie?

gd it i still have the 2012 detrius thread hanging out in my bookmarks

slow down no one post here until 2016 at the earliest

2016: when I'll finally have seen most of the things that'll end up getting discussed itt

2016: when I'll finally have seen 2% of the things that'll end up getting discussed itt

seriously i do this every year where i say "i'm finally gonna watch all the movies people like from this year" and then i end up watching literally zero

well i saw boonmee last year (was that last year)

Been largely underwhelmed this year. Maybe Computer Chess will make the difference...

I can think of at least one poster who's been dying to know Tarantino's favourite films of the year so far...

1. Afternoon Delight (Jill Soloway)
2. Before Midnight (Richard Linklater)
3. Blue Jasmine (Woody Allen)
4. The Conjuring (James Wan)
5. Drinking Buddies (Joe Swanberg)
6. Frances Ha (Noah Baumbach)
7. Gravity (Alfonso Cuarón)
8. Kick Ass 2 (Jeff Wadlow)
9. The Lone Ranger (Gore Verbinski)
10. This Is The End (Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg)

The last three indicate to me that he's only seen 10 films this year.

Did anyone see Gandolfini's last movie?

It's not his last.

~~~~spooky~~~~

This go here or the Oscars thread? My detrius is rusty.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/10/07/oscars-academy-foreign-language-film-shortlist/

Canada, “Gabrielle,” Louise Archambault, director

Anyone know anything about this one?

no. re the other Gabrielle, wonder if Patrice Chereau makes the AA obits.

This go here or the Oscars thread? My detrius is rusty.

As the founder of detrius, I say yes. However someone with an axe to grind usually starts a separate Oscars thread at some point.

Yeah, some punk did in May

Oscars 2014

diminsihing returns, indeed

But enough about your social life.

http://www.cinemaretro.com/uploads/jerrylewisbw.jpg

Gotham Award nominations are next week?!

Let the good times roll.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/12-years-a-slave-leads-650576

Best Feature
12 Years a Slave
Ain’t Them Bodies Saints
Before Midnight
Inside Llewyn Davis
Upstream Color

Best Documentary
The Act of Killing
The Crash Reel
First Cousin Once Removed
Let the Fire Burn
Our Nixon

Bingham Ray Breakthrough Director Award
Ryan Coogler for Fruitvale Station (The Weinstein Company)
Adam Leon for Gimme the Loot (Sundance Selects)
Alexandre Moors for Blue Caprice (Sundance Selects)
Stacie Passon for Concussion (RADiUS-TWC)
Amy Seimetz for Sun Don’t Shine (Factory 25)

Best Actor
Chiwetel Ejiofor in 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
Oscar Isaac in Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)
Matthew McConaughey in Dallas Buyers Club (Focus Features)
Robert Redford in All Is Lost (Lionsgate and Roadside Attractions)
Isaiah Washington in Blue Caprice (Sundance Selects)

Best Actress
Cate Blanchett in Blue Jasmine (Sony Pictures Classics)
Scarlett Johansson in Don Jon (Relativity Media)
Brie Larson in Short Term 12 (Cinedigm)
Amy Seimetz in Upstream Color (erbp)
Shailene Woodley in The Spectacular Now (A24)

Breakthrough Actor
Dane DeHaan in Kill Your Darlings (Sony Pictures Classics)
Kathryn Hahn in Afternoon Delight (The Film Arcade and Cinedigm)
Michael B. Jordan in Fruitvale Station (The Weinstein Company)
Lupita Nyong’o in 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
Robin Weigert in Concussion (RADiUS-TWC)

Ain't Them Indies Boring

Best Actress
Scarlett Johansson in Don Jon (Relativity Media)

Thay give ah-WHADS for those kinda moo-vaiys!

@labuzamovies
Gotham awards hail film with numerous major Hollywood stars, disband category that highlights talent in need of publicity.

Delpy missing from their best actress lineup suggests they are just as susceptible as Oscar is to forgetting about women once they hit 30-ish.

do what you will. gets more interesting after #20.

http://www.indiewire.com/article/the-best-indie-movies-of-2013-so-far-according-to-criticwire

I want to burn every print of Blue Jasmine. Who wants to help?

can we call DCPs prints?

http://www.thewrap.com/broken-circle-breakdown-leads-european-film-awards-nominations/

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-british-independent-film-awards-2013-nominations

year's best undistributed (I've only seen Tsai's Stray Dogs)

http://www.film.com/movies/the-best-undistributed-films-of-2013

I think I've only seen Mistaken for Strangers.

I've seen three - Closed Curtain, Harmony Lessons and Strange Little Cat - and plan to go and see two more this weekend - A Spell to Ward of the Darkness and Til Madness Do Us Apart.

I'm suspicous of films named after National songs.

sorry FB, where are you?

My interest is seriously piqued re: Strange Little Cat.

sorry FB, where are you?

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), 15. november 2013 18:03 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Copenhagen. And DOX, the second largest docomentary-festival in Europe, is on at the moment. Manakanama on sunday as well. Strange Little Cat won the competition for debut features at CPH:PIX earlier this year over Harmony Lessons, and what might have been my favorite: Leonardo Brzezicki's Noche.

i gotta get a new career that will let me move to Europe

Copenhagen is an insane film-city, I've sorta come to think. Mostly because it's so small, 1 mil people, and there are two major film festivals which mostly keeps it covered, and no showing is ever sold out. Then there is the gay film festival, the childrens film festival, the regional film festivals, etc. Although, if you're busy or broke those few intense weeks, as I've been - both - for this years DOX, then you miss a hell-of-a-lot, as very few serious art-house films gets released. We're still waiting for Jia and Tsai, which hopefully will come next PIX in april, and The Grandmaster flopped so much I saw it alone in a big theater a week after release.

do they pay film critics?

Nobody in Denmark wants to read about good films. If you like middlebrow pap about horseracing or unfaithful politicians, then yeah, the newspapers might have a use for you. That's the downside to being able to get in to everything, I suppose...

There's no need for film critics in a Scandinavian paradise.

It's socialism for you. Noone knows more about film than everyone else, and if you think you do, don't say anything, or we'll be coming after you!

But seriously, I wish we had a lot more good film-critics. That kind of community is what we are missing, I think.

Well, I'll be damned. A Spell to Ward of the Darkness was completely sold out... Stupid me, very stupid me. I got in to Til Madness do us Part, though, which is a great, great film. Tough, but rewarding. Surprisingly big crowd as well, to a four hour documentary on mental illness in China. Fittingly, the guy next to me grumbled and threw hand-signs at the screen throughout the film. It will make my end-of-year list, I suppose, but then again, I will only get to see the best of 2013 next spring...

anyone seen The Spectacular Now? A friend lent me the screener. It blindsided me -- one of the best of the year. One of the few convincing movies about teen drinking, teen sex, and parents.

yeah, i really loved it too, way more than i was expecting to. the main kid was terrific

Falls apart in the last ten minutes, but, wow, Miles Teller and Shailene Woodley are warm enough to evoke Ione Sky and John Cusack.

I didn't realize until 10 minutes ago that she played G-Cloon's daughter in The Descendants.

yeah i noted afterwards to my bf how eerily cusack-ian he was

Was planning on avoiding this due to the whole "from the writers of (500) Days of Summer" thing, but now I'm curious.

I wasn't that into it. Drinking stuff was very heavy handed. Kyle Chandler the best though.

I totally disagree. I was surprised how offhand it was, especially when he bought Woodley her own flask for prom and she didn't once complain -- and the director refused the usual closeup and shocked reaction shot.

but, yes, Chandler is excellent. My vote for supporting actor but he hasn't a chance of course.

Maybe it was on my mind because the guy made Smashed and it felt very unsubtle.

~60 films in 18 days. Can I do it?!

"why bother" is my default. I limit myself to what i'm likely to like, and when i see the effluvia afterward my instincts usu prove correct.

I was gonna see Prisoners at MoMA next Monday bcz of Deakins, cept screening immediately sold out cuz, um, Gyllenhaal & Jackman Q&A.

what about the YA teenpocalypse movie w/ Shurshashawash Ronan?

YA?

young-adult u know

Had no idea the Neil Jordan movie was a YA movie.

Of course, I'm sure everything is YA next to something like Museum Hours.

How I Live Now, silly.

Heard middling things so I'm skipping it.

so shd i watch The Lords of Salem for year-end purposes?

Depends on how much other groundwork you have to do. For instance, I'm skipping Blue Jasmine until after the deadline (but before Oscar blogging) because the odds of any Woody movie threatening my top 10 lineup are nil.

I'm skipping Blue Jasmine until after the deadline bcz the only way of seeing it right now costs $14.

Poll eligible or not?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-awxq_5Zz3Wo/UoTOKN94R7I/AAAAAAAO_j8/FMnmLcWXf4U/s1600/Volvo-Trucks-Epic-Split-Van-Damme-0.jpg

yeah, still haven't seen that

prob will after I look up what this 'Duck Dynasty' thing is

Think that was eligible last year.

Taiwan's Golden Horses

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-ilo-ilo-tops-the-2013-golden-horse-awards

I liked The Spectacular Now a lot, too, but I'm probably more predisposed to that kind of thing than Alfred is.

I forgot Ruiz's last film is poll-eligible; Xavier Dolan's I Killed My Mother too.

Thay give ah-WHADS for those kinda moo-vaiys!

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nice.

anyone seen The Spectacular Now? A friend lent me the screener. It blindsided me -- one of the best of the year. One of the few convincing movies about teen drinking, teen sex, and parents.

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 18, 2013 7:08 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

i couldnt believe how good those two leads were. yeah, it's a good movie. also made in athens but i thought it was metro atlanta just looking at it.

http://blog.sundancenow.com/weekly-columns/here-now-then-2013

Enough list making will be going on over the next few weeks to make even Santa Claus blush. This has been the case for decades, of course. As arbitrary as the venture is, what would we do without it? List making is something of a necessary evil, I suppose. Maybe measuring disparate works of art with some vague yardstick of quality is necessary for the purposes of defining and quantifying film movements. But since list making has become a de facto tool for evaluation in internet film culture, year-end appraisals of this sort have come to feel redundant. What was once a January tradition has become a December one, as the ever-expanding, ever-more democratized community of critics and “critics” rush to the gate to be the first to scream their votes for “best” and “worst” at the top of their lungs. (To be clear, I am among them, so this is self-criticism as much as anything.) And an atrocious new tradition began earlier this year, with a mid-year round of judging. It’s clear that our current culture has a hard time evaluating a film without ranking it in relation to others.

The main problem with such immediate list making is that it’s based on a host of various, capricious reasons that only seem urgent at the time. Many films, especially those worthy of our inspection and introspection, need space and time to gestate within us. So for this column, I’ve decided to discuss—not rank—three films that will likely not make my personal top ten for 2013. These are films that, though I found them in many ways to be unsuccessful, were also too difficult, strange, and layered to be completely and properly evaluated after a single viewing.

btw I think this is the best year for docs/essays/nonfic features since I've been paticipating in polls, I hope Act of Killing doesn't monopolize the attention.

yes on the docts

i think 12/20 of my top choices fall in that category right now

That seems a tad excessive tbh.

Then again, 2 of my top 5 are docs.

tbh I have several 'major' narrative films to see, also we get a lotta docs first here.

and after a hundred years of narrative fiction filmmaking, i'm increasingly going "Seen it before, better."

I wouldn't have guess you were 100 yet. 75 maybe, but 100?

What are these docs? I figure Act of Killing and Leviathan, but what else? How To Survive a Plague was last year, no?

I see very few films in their actual year of release anymore (so these threads are always taking notes for the future, for me) but my fave new thing I've seen in '13 is probably Stories We Tell.

I dislike Leviathan. I might venture a second look if I take Dramamine.

Perret in France and Algeria (undistributed)
The Gardener (M. Makhmalbaf, so 'fictionalized' essay)
An Oversimplification of Her Beauty (T. Nance, ditto)
The Square
Let the Fire Burn
Stories We Tell
Room 237
Dirty Wars
Blackfish
We Steal Secrets

plus Act, and I haven't set aside the 4 hours for At Berkeley yet

let the fire burn was real good

so was Stories We Tell.

Fire will prob lose pts from dingalings saying "meh he just compiled footage."

Didn't know you were stanning for Blackfish. (Am definitely going to make time for At Berkeley, too.)

Leviathan is absolutely getting my doc vote.

Blackfish has already been on CNN (post-theaters) and is aesthetically by the numbers, but the story is a heartpounder. Not gonna get a ballot spot from me bcz of the better choices/

Blackfish has too much controversy to get any kind of awards recognition, no?

does it? I remember some statements by SeaWorld that just registered as typical corporate bullshit.

Not from the SeaWorld side, but from the other. Bad arguments poorly made. There were a bunch of articles about it iirc. I haven't seen it because I haven't heard anyone (reputable) that liked it.

Haven't brought myself to watch Dirty Wars yet, but that's down to the fear that it'll just be the Jeremy Scahill - Hero Reporter story

I haven't seen it because I haven't heard anyone (reputable) that liked it.

― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, November 25, 2013 3:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

your boy hungry4ass loved it

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/the-hit-documentary-blackfish-has-a-message-as-dubious-as-its-methods/Content?oid=3507212

i'm not a marine biologist, i was just spooked by seeing trainers dragged around by orcas.

Dirty Wars is sorta like that, not enough to sink it.

lol that piece of shit arty just made me like the movie more. in what way is it a bait and switch?? also lol at Note: Co-author Wingard worked for seven years at the aquatic park Marine World in Vallejo, Calif.

that article basically goes "well they freed willy and he couldn't become a functioning member of society so were we so wrong to keep him in prison???"

saw Jeremy Scahill at Miami Book Fair International yesterday morning with George Packer and the WaPo's Dan Balz and he was clear, passionate, and wonderful; he made Balz's book and approach look hackish.

co-author Sicinski wrote on his site that he walked out early. xxp

trying to figure out if i shd go to new J.Reitman screening, as Winslet y'never know could be good.

blackfish is really newsmagazine-y (which i loved about it) and if its not your thing its not your thing... but i dont see why you need a poorly lettered alt weekly article to talk you out of watching it

I didn't like Leviathan when I first saw it but I've warmed to it after reading about how they completed the film. The use of GoPros and etc. seemed gimmicky to me, but the more I read about the challenges they faced in filming (they lost their better cameras to the sea) the more I accepted it. I still think I preferred Sweetgrass as a film but perhaps because it's a more conventional narrative.

that was just one of a number of articles making similar points xpost

also i think the 'newsmagazine' bit puts me off. reminds me of last year's Invisible War, which is important as a subject and a documentary, but it was about as dry and uninspired docu filmmaking one can imagine.

blackfish isnt dry or uninspired as filmmaking at all - its a sensationalized true crime story w/lots o' thrills & chills

maybe i'll give it a shot once i get through the 23 other films i have on my "2013 catch up list" then. am cool with docs in the vein of "how to survive a plague"

I think both Manakamana and Till Madness do us Part will be in my top 10, but that's it. Leviathan and Act of Killing are 2012 films for me. Also, I haven't seen them.

Good morning on this first "official" day of detrius. Independent Spirit Award nominations later today and now also this ...

Cahiers du cinema's 2013 Top 10: http://www.vodkaster.com/Listes-de-films/Top-2013-Cahiers-du-cinema

01. Stranger by the Lake (Alain Guiraudie)
02. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine)
03. Blue is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche)
04. Gravity (Alfonso Cuarón)
05. A Touch of Sin (Jia Zhang Ke)
06. Lincoln (Steven Spielberg
07. Jealousy (Philippe Garrel)
08. Nobody's Daughter Haewon (Hong Sang-soo)
09. You and the Night (Yann Gonzalez)
10. La Bataille de Solférino (Justine Triet)

did we discuss Blue is the Warmest Color anywhere?

Stranger is a pretty good #1, but it is officially "next year" in America of course. I guess I'm voting for it in the Best Unavailable Foreign Film category in our group -- Eric, what's up with that? Mostly for the non-US critics to weigh in?

has Nobody's Daughter Haewon gotten a domestic release?

nope, and none seems imminent

Eric, what's up with that? Mostly for the non-US critics to weigh in?

Apparently they think more than 1 or 2 members of the org actually attend Cannes, Berlin, Venice, et al.

well, NYFF and TIFF titles, too

I didn't like Leviathan when I first saw it but I've warmed to it after reading about how they completed the film

That should have nothing to do with the price of beans. You were right the first time.

Looks like we can judge Cahiers' #2 and 4 the year's most successful cons.

don't forget #6

Morbs, leave.

Wait, come back. I forgot no one else posts in this thread.

Wouldn't call either Spring Breakers or Gravity a "con". The latter especially fits into a traditional Cahiers mold.

Think he meant that in the pro/mixed/con sense.

Ahh

no. bye.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bOf7Z15ah3U/TIae6CFPSyI/AAAAAAAAANs/dgLi_XmFNN0/s400/bcvb6.jpg

Pretty snoozy, but one or two eye-raising snubs, plus attention for Museum Hours, and Spring Breakers' lensing...

http://www.indiewire.com/article/2014-spirit-award-nomination-being-announced-in-progress

BEST FEATURE (Award given to the Producer, Executive Producers are not awarded)
12 Years a Slave
All Is Lost
Frances Ha
Inside Llewyn Davis
Nebraska

BEST DIRECTOR
Shane Carruth, Upstream Color
J.C. Chandor, All Is Lost
Steve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Jeff Nichols, Mud
Alexander Payne, Nebraska

BEST SCREENPLAY
Woody Allen, Blue Jasmine
Julie Delpy, Ethan Hawke & Richard Linklater, Before Midnight
Nicole Holofcener, Enough Said
Scott Neustadter & Michael H. Weber, The Spectacular Now
John Ridley, 12 Years a Slave

BEST FEMALE LEAD
Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
Julie Delpy, Before Midnight
Gaby Hoffmann, Crystal Fairy
Brie Larson, Short Term 12
Shailene Woodley, The Spectacular Now

BEST MALE LEAD
Bruce Dern, Nebraska
Chiwetel Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave
Oscar Isaac, Inside Llewyn Davis
Michael B. Jordan, Fruitvale Station
Matthew McConaughey, Dallas Buyers Club
Robert Redford, All Is Lost

BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE
Melonie Diaz, Fruitvale Station
Sally Hawkins, Blue Jasmine
Lupita Nyong'o, 12 Years a Slave
Yolonda Ross, Go For Sisters
June Squibb, Nebraska

BEST SUPPORTING MALE
Michael Fassbender, 12 Years a Slave
Will Forte, Nebraska
James Gandolfini, Enough Said
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club
Keith Stanfield, Short Term 12

BEST FIRST FEATURE
Blue Caprice
Concussion
Fruitvale Station
Una Noche
Wadjda

BEST FIRST SCREENPLAY
Lake Bell, In A World
Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Don Jon
Bob Nelson, Nebraska
Jill Soloway, Afternoon Delight
Michael Starrbury, The Inevitable Defeat of Mister and Pete

JOHN CASSAVETES AWARD - Given to the best feature made for under $500,000.
Computer Chess
Crystal Fairy
Museum Hours
Pit Stop
This is Martin Bonner

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
12 Years a Slave
Spring Breakers
Inside Llewyn Davis
All Is Lost
Computer Chess

BEST EDITING
Upstream Color
Museum Hours
Frances Ha
Una Noche
Short Term 12

BEST DOCUMENTARY (Award given to the director and producer)
20 Feet From Stardom
After Tiller
Gideon's Army
The Act of Killing
The Square

BEST INTERNATIONAL FILM
A Touch of Sin
Blue is the Warmest Color
Gloria
The Great Beaut
The Hun

That should have nothing to do with the price of beans. You were right the first time.

Hmm, good point. You've convinced me to never watch This Is Not a Film. I heard that shit was shot on cellphones!

The Great Beaut

LOL, I wish this had been the translated title.

+ The Hun

I heard pretty middling things about The Hunt, though I'm always jazzed to watch Mads. Worth seeking out?

Also really want to see A Touch of Sin and The Great Beauty. Gloria looks rubbish.

Heard so much bad about The Great Beauty.

a quick glance at the people i follow on letterboxd shows a wide range from 1/2 star to 4 1/2

The Hunt is certainly worth seeing if you're a Mikkelsen fan

I really wish Letterboxd had a zero-star option.

Sight & Sound's Top 10 [poll]

01. The Act of Killing
02. Gravity
03. Blue is the Warmest Color
04. The Great Beauty
05. Frances Ha
06. A Touch of Sin
07. Upstream Color
08. The Selfish Giant
09. Notre, the End of History (tie)
09. Stranger By the Lake (tie)

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/polls-surveys/annual-round-ups/best-films-2013

did we discuss Blue is the Warmest Color anywhere?

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:36 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

arthouse 2013 thread

Seems like The Spectacular Now is going to be ignored.

Anyone seen Nebraska?

Yes. It's horrible, obv.

My stream of Ruiz's Night Across the Street failed after 25 minutes. Now, that's just not fair.

Does that mean mine will too? Boo.

You can still rank "the first 25 minutes of Night Across the Street" above Gravity tho as it pleases.

dunno. "error loading" etc xp

I did not get Enough Said in the mail, either

That's odd. Got that one about 2 weeks ago.

well I got my nominations in early. Mentioned Post Tenebras Lux for cinematography.

was able to watch the Ruiz film no probs on Netflix six months ago.

i'll have it from the library this week anyway

The event that used to kick off the detritus thread arrives: John Waters' top 10 list in Artforum.

http://www.artforum.com/inprint/issue=201310&id=44049

Him making room for 2 Dumont movies (and, yep, Woody Allen's latest) is probably the least surprising thing ever.

he wrote a useless introduction to the recently James Purdy collection. He needs a shake.

He also thought Occupy was "adorable (lol!)" Decadent old 1% fairy.

I'm delighted by his worldview. Something I can't say about many other people's.

It's looks like a p standard "cool" sixtysomething Democrat with a place in P-Town worldview.

And a love for the grotesque and the mundane alike. As opposed to a hatred for, well, everything.

ohhhh, not trooooooo.

Spring Breakers is pretty hateful, esp in the middle act; that's its strength.

Empire has the worst year end list imaginable, which is not surprising.

Is there going to be a 2013's film poll on ilx?

It's still November, hold your horses.

Oh wait no it isn't. lol

Blackfish was the ideal length but, yeah, Frontline would've done better than OSHA guy averring that killer whales have never killed humans in the wild.

btw at the All is Lost screening -- I was possibly the youngest of the 50 or so attendees -- there was an agent and at least two actors sitting around me. The actress was voting for Llewyn Davis for everything cuz she's in it as a waitress ("unless they cut me out"). She also votes first "for everything made in New York, then everything made in America."

The agent said Her was "interesting. That means we didn't like it."

The spirit of Ernest Borgnine lives on.

such ppl also seem to be crazy about 'Julia' in August: Osage

Luckily for you, that's one I'm not going to see until after missing all award/list deadlines.

God August: Osage looks terrible.

i like tracy letts so im holding out hope. also cumbo as chris cooper's son is kinda brilliant casting

i've seen A:O. Liked the play, this kinda stinks.

(they trimmed tons of character stuff to make it run an hour-plus shorter)

small favours.

no man the play's really good

But if the movie's gonna suck, it can at least be short. Not that I'll likely ever see it anyway.

so it could be long
one thousand hours long even

Golden Satellites bring their annual "we nominate everything" haul:

http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/satellite-awards-nominations/

Motion Picture

12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
All Is Lost (Lionsgate/Roadside Attractions)
American Hustle (Sony)
Blue Jasmine (Sony Pictures Classics)
Captain Phillips (Sony)
Gravity (Warner Bros.)
Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)
Philomena (The Weinstein Company)
Saving Mr. Banks (Disney)
The Wolf of Wall Street (Paramount)

Director

Woody Allen Blue Jasmine (Sony Pictures Classics)
Ethan Coen, Joel Coen Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)
Alfonso Cuaron Gravity (Warner Bros.)
Paul Greengrass Captain Phillips (Sony)
Ron Howard Rush (Universal)
Steve McQueen 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
David O. Russell American Hustle (Sony)
Martin Scorsese The Wolf of Wall Street (Paramount)

Actress in a Motion Picture

Amy Adams – American Hustle (Sony)
Cate Blanchett – Blue Jasmine (Sony Pictures Classics)
Sandra Bullock – Gravity (Warner Bros.)
Judi Dench – Philomena (The Weinstein Company)
Adèle Exarchopoulos – Blue Is the Warmest Color (Sundance)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus – Enough Said (Fox Searchlight)
Meryl Streep – August: Osage County (The Weinstein Company)
Emma Thompson – Saving Mr. Banks (Disney)

Actor in a Motion Picture

Christian Bale – American Hustle (Sony)
Bruce Dern – Nebraska (Paramount)
Leonardo DiCaprio – The Wolf of Wall Street (Paramount)
Chiwetel Ejiofor – 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
Tom Hanks – Captain Phillips (Sony)
Matthew McConaughey – Dallas Buyers Club (Focus Features)
Robert Redford – All Is Lost (Lionsgate/Roadside Attractions)
Forest Whitaker – Lee Daniels’ The Butler (The Weinstein Company)

Actress in a Supporting Role

Sally Hawkins – Blue Jasmine (Sony Pictures Classics)
Jennifer Lawrence – American Hustle (Sony)
Lupita Nyong’o – 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
Julia Roberts – August: Osage County (The Weinstein Company)
Léa Seydoux – Blue Is the Warmest Color (Sundance)
June Squibb – Nebraska (Paramount)
Emily Watson – The Book Thief (20th Century Fox)
Oprah Winfrey – Lee Daniels’ The Butler (The Weinstein Company)

Actor in a Supporting Role

Bradley Cooper – American Hustle (Sony)
Michael Fassbender – 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
Harrison Ford – 42 (Warner Bros.)
Ryan Gosling – The Place Beyond the Pines (Focus Features)
Jake Gyllenhaal – Prisoners (Warner Bros.)
Tom Hanks – Saving Mr. Banks (Disney)
Casey Affleck – Out of the Furnace (Relativity Media)
Jared Leto – Dallas Buyers Club (Focus Features)

Motion Picture, International Film

Bethlehem, Israel
Blue Is the Warmest Color, France
The Broken Circle Breakdown, Belgium
Circles, Serbia
Four Corners, South Africa
The Great Beauty, Italy
The Hunt, Denmark
Metro Manila, United Kingdom
The Past, Iran
Wadjda, Saudia Arabia

Motion Picture, Animated or Mixed Media

Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 2 (Sony)
The Croods (DreamWorks)
Epic (20th Century Fox)
Ernest & Celestine (GKIDS)
Frozen (Disney)
Monsters University (Disney-Pixar)
Turbo (DreamWorks)
The Wind Rises (Studio Ghibli)

Motion Picture, Documentary

20 Feet from Stardom (Radius-TWC)
The Act of Killing (Drafthouse Films)
After Tiller (Oscilloscope)
American Promise (Rada Film Group)
Blackfish (Magnolia Pictures)
Evocateur: The Morton Downey Jr. Movie (Ironbound Films)
Sound City (Roswell Films)
The Square (City Drive Entertainment Group)
Stories We Tell (Roadside Attractions)
Tim’s Vermeer (Sony Pictures Classics)

Screenplay, Original

David O. Russell, Eric Singer – American Hustle (Sony)
Woody Allen – Blue Jasmine (Sony Pictures Classics)
Nicole Holofcener – Enough Said (Fox Searchlight)
Spike Jonze – Her (Warner Bros.)
Ethan Coen, Joel Coen – Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)
Kelly Mareel, Sue Smith – Saving Mr. Banks (Disney)

Screenplay, Adapted

John Ridley – 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
Julie Delpy, Ethan Hawke, Richard Linklater – Before Midnight (Sony Pictures Classics)
Billy Ray – Captain Phillips (Sony)
Peter Berg – Lone Survivor (Universal)
Steve Coogan, Jeff Pope – Philomena (The Weinstein Company)
Terence Winter – The Wolf of Wall Street (Paramount)

Original Score

Hans Zimmer – 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
John Williams – The Book Thief (20th Century Fox)
Steven Price – Gravity (Warner Bros.)
Arcade Fire – Her (Warner Bros.)
Alexandre Desplat – Philomena (The Weinstein Company)
Theodore Shapiro – The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (20th Century Fox)

Original Song

Happy, Despicable Me 2 (Universal)
Let It Go, Frozen (Disney)
Young and Beautiful, The Great Gatsby (Warner Bros.)
I See Fire, The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug (Warner Bros)
Please Mr. Kennedy, Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)
So You Know What It’s Like, Short Term 12 (Cinedigm)

Cinematography

Sean Bobbitt 12 – Years A Slave (Fox Searchlight)
Emmanuel Lubezki – Gravity (Warner Bros.)
Bruno Delbonnel – Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)
Roger Deakins – Prisoners (Warner Bros.)
Anthony Dod – Mantle Rush (Universal)
Stuart Dryburgh – The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (20th Century Fox)

Visual Effects

Robert Munroe, Colin Davies, Brendon O’Dell – All Is Lost (Lionsgate/Roadside Attractions)
Markus Manninen, Matt Baer – The Croods (DreamWorks)
Tim Webber, Charles Howell, Chris Lawrence – Gravity (Warner Bros.)
Scott Stokdyk, Troy Saliba, James Schwalm – Oz the Great and Powerful (Disney)
Jody Johnson, Mark Hodgkins, Antoine Moulineau – Rush (Universal)
Scott Farrar, Andrew R. Jones, Jessica Norman, and Matt Johnson – World War Z (Paramount)

Film Editing

Joe Walker – 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
Jay Cassidy, Crispin Struthers – American Hustle
Alfonso Cuaron, Mark Sanger – Gravity (Warner Bros)
Joel Cox, Gary D. Roach – Prisoners (Warner Bros.)
Daniel P. Hanley, Mike Hill – Rush (Universal)
Thelma Schoonmaker – The Wolf of Wall Street (Paramount)

Sound (Editing and Mixing)

Steve Boeddeker, Richard Hymns, Brandon Proctor – All Is Lost (Lionsgate)
Oliver Tarney, Chris Burdon, Mark Taylor – Captain Phillips (Sony)
Craig Berkey, Dave Whitehead, David Husby, and Christopher Scarabosio – Elysium (Sony)
Glenn Freemantle, Niv Adiri, Skip Lievsey – Gravity (Warner Bros)
Skip Lievsay, Paul Urmson, Igor Nikolic – Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)
Danny Hambrook, Frank Kruse, Markus Stemler – Rush (Universal)

Art Direction & Production Design

Catherine Martin, Beverly Dunn – The Great Gatsby (Warner Bros.)
Maria Djurkovic, Tatiana Macdonald – The Invisible Woman (Sony Pictures Classics)
Tim Galvin, Diane Lederman – Lee Daniels’ The Butler (The Weinstein Company)
Robert Stromberg, Nancy Haigh – Oz the Great and Powerful (Disney)
Mark Digby, Patrick Rolfe – Rush (Universal)
Michael Corenblith, Lauren E. Polizzi – Saving Mr. Banks (Disney)

Costume Design

Patricia Norris – 12 Years a Slave (Fox Searchlight)
Catherine Martin – The Great Gatsby (Warner Bros.)
Michael O’Connor – The Invisible Woman (Sony Pictures Classics)
Gary Jones – Oz the Great and Powerful (Disney)
Julian Day – Rush (Universal)
Daniel Orlandi – Saving Mr. Banks (Disney)

Special Achievement

Honorary Satellite Award

Ryan Coogler

Breakthrough Performance Award

Sophie Nelisse, The Book Thief

Best Ensemble, Motion Picture

Nebraska

yay, John Waters OTM abt the Dumonts

Casey Affleck – Out of the Furnace (Relativity Media)

Good nomination (that I don't expect to get repeated).

god I couldn't believe how rote and banal A: Osage County was. It's like a teleplay for a Tennessee Williams adaptation that got lots of Oscar nods in the fifties.

yer talking from reading the play?

"Anthony Dod – Mantle Rush"

took me a minute to decipher, then I laughed

And, oh yeah:

Original Song
Please Mr. Kennedy, Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)

gonna be a real earworm for you? :D

(shouldn't be heard or seen previous to seeing the film)

Original Song
Please Mr. Kennedy, Inside Llewyn Davis (CBS Films)

DON: Well, yeah.

Ryan Gosling – The Place Beyond the Pines (Focus Features)

Good to see this on the long list above.

Category placement is a borderline spoiler.

nice to know Scorsese's people take care of the Golden Satellites

Wouldn't be a bit surprised if whoever it is that orchestrates that organization just planted those nods in there sight unseen.

oh how I hated The Place Beyond the Pines so very much.

Ryan Gosling – The Place Beyond the Pines (Focus Features)

Good to see this on the long list above.

― Bailey (Collins) Lover (Eazy), Monday, December 2, 2013 1:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

he gives like the 6th best performance in that movie

His tattoos gave the movie's best supporting performance.

the movie gave the worst performance

nice to know Scorsese's people take care of the Golden Satellites
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, December 2, 2013 12:32 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wouldn't be a bit surprised if whoever it is that orchestrates that organization just planted those nods in there sight unseen.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, December 2, 2013 12:36 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.hitfix.com/in-contention/international-press-academy-does-not-see-wolf-of-wall-street-nominates-it-for-five-satellite-awards-anyway

fantastic

ive not seen place beyond the pines (though i did see only god forgives, where ryan gosling seemed barely interested in being there, never mind actually acting/doing more than his coy/cute face) though i did see blue valentine from the same director and thought he was trying way too hard to make a Serious Film About Relationships.

First montage out of the gate afaik: http://vimeo.com/80862133

Not sure when the NYFCC votes are supposed to start rolling out. Checking back on their last five years' worth of awards ... there's probably no reason to expect anything too outre this morning, huh.

2012
Film: Zero Dark Thirty
Director: Kathryn Bigelow – Zero Dark Thirty
Actor: Daniel Day-Lewis – Lincoln
Actress: Rachel Weisz – The Deep Blue Sea
Supporting Actor: Matthew McConaughey – Magic Mike and Bernie
Supporting Actress: Sally Field – Lincoln
Foreign Language Film: Amour
Non-Fiction Film: The Central Park Five
Cinematography: Greig Fraser – Zero Dark Thirty
Screenplay: Tony Kushner – Lincoln
First Film: David France – How to Survive the Plague
Animated Film: Frankenweenie

2011
Film: The Artist
Director: Michel Hazanavicius – The Artist
Actor: Brad Pitt – Moneyball and The Tree of Life
Actress: Meryl Streep – The Iron Lady
Supporting Actor: Albert Brooks – Drive
Supporting Actress: Jessica Chastain – The Tree of Life, The Help and Take Shelter
Foreign Language Film: A Separation
Non-Fiction Film: Cave of Forgotten Dreams
Cinematography: Emmanuel Lubezki – The Tree of Life
Screenplay: Aaron Sorkin and Steven Zaillian – Moneyball
First Film: J.C. Chandor – Margin Call
Animated Film: None

2010
Film: The Social Network
Director: David Fincher – The Social Network
Actor: Colin Firth – The King's Speech
Actress: Annette Bening – The Kids Are All Right
Supporting Actor: Mark Ruffalo – The Kids Are All Right
Supporting Actress: Melissa Leo – The Fighter
Foreign Language Film: Carlos
Non-Fiction Film: Inside Job
Cinematography: Matthew Libatique – Black Swan
Screenplay: Lisa Cholodenko and Stuart Blumberg – The Kids Are All Right
First Film: David Michôd – Animal Kingdom
Animated Film: The Illusionist

2009
Film: The Hurt Locker
Director: Kathryn Bigelow – The Hurt Locker
Actor: George Clooney – Up in the Air and Fantastic Mr. Fox
Actress: Meryl Streep – Julie & Julia
Supporting Actor: Christoph Waltz – Inglourious Basterds
Supporting Actress: Mo'Nique – Precious
Foreign Language Film: Summer Hours
Non-Fiction Film: Of Time and the City
Cinematography: Christian Berger – The White Ribbon
Screenplay: Armando Iannucci, Jesse Armstrong, Simon Blackwell and Tony Roche – In the Loop
First Film: Steve McQueen – Hunger
Animated Film: Fantastic Mr. Fox

2008
Film: Milk
Director: Mike Leigh – Happy-Go-Lucky
Actor: Sean Penn – Milk
Actress: Sally Hawkins – Happy-Go-Lucky
Supporting Actor: Josh Brolin – Milk
Supporting Actress: Penélope Cruz – Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Foreign Language Film: 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days
Non-Fiction Film: Man on Wire
Cinematography: Anthony Dod Mantle – Slumdog Millionaire
Screenplay: Jenny Lumet – Rachel Getting Married
First Film: Courtney Hunt – Frozen River
Animated Film: WALL•E

I dunno, Rachel Weisz was outre in her way, if not the old NYFCC pattern -- she wasn't nominated for an AA, right? So figure the Blue lead has a good shot at best actress...

One can only hope. Actress seems to be the category that the major crix awards go most rogue on. (Or, rather, the category that Oscar most regularly fucks up.)

And away we go:

BEST NON-FICTION FILM (DOCUMENTARY): Stories We Tell

A good year for them, as Morbs pointed out. SWT likely my favorite.

(Sidebar: I guess National Society's picks during the last 5 years haven't been that markedly more avant.)

2012
Picture: Amour
Director: Michael Haneke – Amour
Actor: Daniel Day-Lewis – Lincoln
Actress: Emmanuelle Riva – Amour
Supporting Actor: Matthew McConaughey – Magic Mike and Bernie
Supporting Actress: Amy Adams – The Master
Screenplay: Tony Kushner – Lincoln
Cinematography: Mihai Malăimare, Jr. – The Master
Non-Fiction Film: The Gatekeepers
Experimental Film: This Is Not a Film

2011
Picture: Melancholia
Director: Terrence Malick – The Tree of Life
Actor: Brad Pitt – Moneyball and The Tree of Life
Actress: Kirsten Dunst – Melancholia
Supporting Actor: Albert Brooks – Drive
Supporting Actress: Jessica Chastain – The Help, Take Shelter and The Tree of Life
Screenplay: Asghar Farhadi – A Separation
Cinematography: Emmanuel Lubezki – The Tree of Life
Foreign Language Film: A Separation
Non-Fiction Film: Cave of Forgotten Dreams
Experimental Film: Seeking the Monkey King

2010
Picture: The Social Network
Director: David Fincher – The Social Network
Actor: Jesse Eisenberg – The Social Network
Actress: Giovanna Mezzogiorno – Vincere
Supporting Actor: Geoffrey Rush – The King's Speech (!)
Supporting Actress: Olivia Williams – The Ghost Writer
Screenplay: Aaron Sorkin – The Social Network
Cinematography: Roger Deakins – True Grit
Foreign Language Film: Carlos
Non-Fiction Film: Inside Job
Film Awaiting American Distribution: Film Socialisme

2009
Picture: The Hurt Locker
Director: Kathryn Bigelow – The Hurt Locker
Actor: Jeremy Renner – The Hurt Locker
Actress: Yolande Moreau – Séraphine
Supporting Actor: Paul Schneider – Bright Star & Christoph Waltz – Inglourious Basterds (tie)
Supporting Actress: Mo'Nique – Precious
Screenplay: Joel and Ethan Coen – A Serious Man
Cinematography: Christian Berger – The White Ribbon
Best Production Design: Nelson Lowry – Fantastic Mr. Fox
Foreign Language Film: Summer Hours
Non-Fiction Film: The Beaches of Agnès

2008
Picture: Waltz with Bashir
Director: Mike Leigh – Happy-Go-Lucky
Actor: Sean Penn – Milk
Actress: Sally Hawkins – Happy-Go-Lucky
Supporting Actor: Eddie Marsan – Happy-Go-Lucky
Supporting Actress: Hanna Schygulla – The Edge of Heaven
Screenplay: Mike Leigh – Happy-Go-Lucky
Cinematography: Anthony Dod Mantle – Slumdog Millionaire
Non-Fiction Film: Man on Wire
Experimental Film: Razzle Dazzle

BEST FIRST FILM: Fruitvale Station

BEST NON-FICTION FILM (DOCUMENTARY): Stories We Tell

I assume that's just a definition, and they aren't giving a non-fiction (essay) award?

Almost no one saw the last Mohsen Makhmalbaf film, The Garden, which ran exactly one week at a low-profile theater in NYC.

btw, bleak folk-music odyssey triumphs at the Gothams!

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/12/03/inside-llewyn-davis-gotham-awards/

Fruitvale Station is competent social-issue milling around, nothing more.

Some on Twitter are pointing out there weren't too terribly many options for FF this year.

CINEMATOGRAPHY: Bruno Delbonnel, Inside Llewyn Davis

A genuine shock, actually, but crix awards have been giving Lubeszki his due for a while now.

Nathaniel has a few; http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2013/12/3/inside-llewyns-gotham-awards.html

Looks like Matthew McConaughey and Brie Larson won.

ie. maybe Roger Deakins got a little too much worship all these years. xxxp

in fairness to Delbonnel, this is about as different-looking a palette from Amélie as you can get.

praying for a Gravity backlash. But no one taught me how.

^^ new movie tagline

Delbonnel has made some beautiful stuff, ie Harry Potter and the Halfblood Prince and Faust. The trailer to Inside Llewyn Davis looked like pure teal/orange-crap, though.

praying for a Gravity backlash

Get your head out of the sand. It's been here for months.

whwre, where?

Faust was beautiful-ugly, kinda made me queasy frankly.

Everywhere you're not looking. Story of your life.

The Story of :O

I'm not sure how all these "breakthrough" awards are going to boost Michael B. Jordan any further. He's a gorgeous guy who will no doubt do a ton of studio crap I'll never see.

And I wrote that before looking on the imDb to see he's slated for The Fantantic Four and maybe Coogler's smdh Son of Apollo Creed movie.

He and Miles Teller already got roped into a Three Muskateers-of-teen-sex comedy for next year.

CINEMATOGRAPHY: Bruno Delbonnel, Inside Llewyn Davis

― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:30 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RkNvxo42D0

Sylvester Stallone ... Rocky Balboa (rumored)
Michael B. Jordan Michael B. Jordan ... (rumored)
Burt Young ... Paulie (rumored)

SPECIAL AWARD*: Frederick Wiseman

*I guess aka the "obviously you are the greatest documentarian of our time, but damn, that movie's four g-d hours long, man!" award

Oh god.

BEST SCREENPLAY: American Hustle

Hoping this is this year's biggest NYFCC forehead-slapper.

seeing tomw night. figured it has to be better than DOR's last two Oscar-winning stinkers.

Fruitvale Station is competent social-issue milling around, nothing more.

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:24 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

i thought it was a little better than that. Coogler showed a lot of skill w/actors and dialogue in some scenes, really liked the subway scenes and how nicely captured everyone just chillin was

pretty sure the Logon Critics Circle will reject special awards for Wiseman and Resnais (80%?).

BEST ANIMATED FILM: The Wind Rises

seeing tomw night. figured it has to be better than DOR's last two Oscar-winning stinkers.

You may dig it more than me on the Killing Them Softly clause.

ie God Damn America?

Yeah, this is the screwball variant of that. In Boogie Nights drag. (I know, I know. A "period piece.")

been dreading hustle but i loved KTS

jeezus, Anthony Zerbe and Colleen Camp are in AH, that really is the '70s.

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club

That cognitive dissonance when a performance I genuinely like is stuck in a movie I don't want to see rewarded in any way.

I asked ed.ed at our last screening if he was ready for Oscar-holding Leto

not a bad perf or movie but prefer Erin Brockovich.

Oprah must be comin up soon, unless Lupita Nyong'o

Dece performance, beyond tepid movie.

Forget Erin Brockovich; North Country is better than Dallas Buyers Club.

gtfo

it's a disease movie better fit for teevee. NC is an inert Country (and so is Country).

apparently How to Stop a Plague is supposed to become a cable dramatic miniseries, still? If it portrays the infighting and "difficult" personalities of ACT UP accurately, ppl may not be so affronted by "straight" AIDS stories in the future.

@LouLumenick
As #NYFCC membership expands, consensus choices dominating

I'm so sure his ballot had Computer Chess, Leviathan and Beyond the Hills on it.

I'm affronted that DBC makes the fight against AIDS so g-d boring!

Of course not. He had to make room for Like Someone in Love and Something in the Air.

stunned at Oversimplification shutout

Forget Erin Brockovich; North Country is better than Dallas Buyers Club.

Misread this as North Dallas Forty.

oh ok well that's true!

Guessing a lot of people are going to the mat for/against Lupita right now, given the long pause.

right now my supp actress vote wd go to Zhao Tao for A Touch of Sin, or among the electable Carey Mulligan

Guess the fighting was over cunnilingus.

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: Blue Is the Warmest Color

Oh man, Zhao Tao was really spectacular.

yes, even among all-time director's wife performances.

just barely resisting Rex Reed 'lingus joke

SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle

Starting to actually feel like a hustle for real!

Alfre Woodard robbed!

she's gonna be the non-Yale School of Drama Streep of the next 40 years, huh

I'm surprised no group has come up with a One-Scene Performance award. xp

is JL good in it? u seemed to prefer Adams.

Thought I vaguely remembered the Satellites having categories for "best limited performance" or something just as hilariously-titled.

I think both of the women are pretty good. But then I do tend to gravitate toward blowsy for blowsy's sake.

Her accent is sort of come-and-go, but that doesn't usually bother me too much.

xp

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DMEAIAQccpc/TXFpWdqunKI/AAAAAAAABp0/3NOK6v05oZI/s1600/rosemarys-baby-ruth-gordon1.jpg

@JMOursler
FYC: Shrillest one-dimensional female character of the year- Carey Mulligan from INSIDE LLEWYN DAVIS

well, just like women everywhere

hard to believe Carey Mulligan gave a bearable perf

I'd actually counter that FYC with Naomi Watts in Diana.

Soto did you ever see CM in that last TV Bleak House?

with Gillian Anderson? Yeah.

As all-in, psychologically, as always:

@AwardsDaily
Awards assholes do not validate art. Yes, I note the irony of my saying this.

I like Mulligan in Llewyn Davis, much more than I do usually. She's the only character who is totally sick of Llewyn's unreliability and freeloading and the contrast between the fearsome swearing IRL and her winsome folkie schtick on stage is v funny.

The way to make them feel as if they do is, of course, to pay attention to them. xp

Yes, I've met women like her, only not folkies.

@Glenn__Kenny 9m
Looks like the New York Film Critics' Circle is likely to make it into the next edition of "Stuff White People Like"

"The year you don't get to vote for anything else" indeed.

(Was just about to note the grumblings of racism that have started to pop up.)

so Blanchett and other blanched ppl

spoke too soon

BEST DIRECTOR: Steve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave

looks like they can shut up now.

DIRECTOR: Steve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave

(Knew they'd announce the moment I stepped away for lunch.)

I'm fine with McQueen winning everything I'd have given to him for Hunger.

Rex Reed may have to be removed from the room forcibly if Philomena doesn't win anything.

Blanchett, Redford, Slave?

or Exarchopoulos maybe

Pretty much, yeah. Unless they're feeling extra Oscary and wrap Hanks' two bids together.

I'm fine with McQueen winning everything I'd have given to him for Hunger.

Similarly, I'm fine with Cuaron winning everything I'd have given to him for Children of Men.

To break up the announcement waiting, David Ehrlich has done his video montage of questionable picks and more questionable rankings again: http://www.film.com/movies/the-25-best-films-of-2013-video-countdown

http://vimeo.com/80862133

Posted that upthread, but it's worth a repost because, among other things, that WTF shortlisting of Gatsby.

Let the steamrolling begin.

BEST ACTRESS: Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine

BEST ACTOR: Robert Redford, All Is Lost

Given the likelihood 12 Years wins best film, the window of my interest in the detrius period gets shorter and shorter every year.

On the positive side, Nebraska got shut out.

I hope you don't hurl yourself out that window if American Hustle takes it.

A worse movie, a more "interesting" choice. Such are the things that tear apart the minds of the world's S@sh@ St0n3s.

Robert Redford

all is lost

or Jeff Wells

You're not forgetting they gave it to ZDT last year? And look what happened then.

Posted that upthread, but it's worth a repost because, among other things, that WTF shortlisting of Gatsby.

― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:00 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

soz, must have missed it. I'll take that Gatsby shortlisting over the placement of Pain and Gain.

Right, like journalists en masse will dare smear 12 Years the way they did ZDT.

well, no, bcz it's not a contemporary piece of pro-war, amoral propaganda

(technically not smearing

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/can-monitors-monitor-the-monitors-or-reality-as-an-extension-of-fiction-by-other-means)

Hey, you brought up ZDT, not me.

I think the source of my discomfort with 12 Years and ZDT has to do with their non-Preminger approach to procedure, i.e. nothing is delivered, nothing is learned

Would have loved to see the Preminger version of 12 Years.

... oh wait!

yeah i've never seen that one, but 12Y is worth comparing to Mandingo.

been a half hour, some heavy negotiating

ZDT's Oscar chances ended when it was not rubber-stamped by Hollywood liberals. That is sooo not the case with 12 Years.

some heavy negotiating

Can't imagine which candidates the holdouts have rallied behind, unless it's Hustle.

Or Wall Street.

I wasn't exclusively meaning the Oscars, but I think other groups will have other BP choices, esp among the critics.

maybe the holdouts are for Blue 'lingus

(has the NYFCC ever chosen a foreign? Bergman?)

yes, Cries and Whispers, I think.

I think I read recently that in the late '60s, 10% of the US box office was for foreign-lang films. Now ~1%.

I'm not so optimistic, Morbs. This is feeling like a juggernaut year straight down the line. Given too many options, even the Nat'l Society can sometimes retreat into their shells (i.e. Capote in '05).

42 minutes... there better be a good anonymous account of this

Oh dear god.

Well, that does make things interesting.

BEST PICTURE: American Hustle

holee shit

I better get to that screening early tomorrow

Just don't expect this to be one of those Mulholland Drive surprise picks.

Still, big time LOLZ over this.

i really couldn't with Bale and Cooper in the leads. xp

Maybe NOWWWW Marty will show the lowly critics his movie.

Another mitigating factor for you ... parts of the movie skirt whatever the straight-guy version of "camp" is.

Oh I like the idea of Straight Camp. What are some candidates? Boogie Nights?

can you give another example of it? The last time I saw someone use that phrase they were talking about Con Air. xp

Casino, Miami Vice

Somehow I find myself overselling this movie ... ?!

cool on Casino; avoided MV like the plague

And yet, the movie might actually resonate with some as a tonic to movies of that ilk. I dunno. I just saw it last night and it's still sort of ricocheting around.

Oh I like the idea of Straight Camp. What are some candidates? Boogie Nights?

― polyphonic, Tuesday, December 3, 2013 3:28 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://natbrut.com/notes-on-camp-labruce/

oh yeah i forgot all about that thesis

I think he and I have different ideas of what straight camp would be, but then again, I admit I may be unintentionally reflecting a male bias.

I think he and I have different ideas of what straight camp would be

The Killing of a Chinese Bookie?! 3 Women?! wtf

what's all this nonsense going on with the OFCS?

Someone said a bad word.

seeing a prominent ILXOR's name bandied about twitter

whats the ofcs

A reading comprehension focus group.

"a self-avowed film nut" called out some members

aka SAFN

online & unfocused group, amirite

I'd like to see that 'divah' listen to June Squibb.

seeing a prominent ILXOR's name bandied about twitter
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:04 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is it mine

all because I called out prosthetic fannies

Jesus, maybe I shd try to get some freelance gigs while I'm "hot"

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2013/12/how-nyfcc-balloting-went-down/

Franco allegedly came in third for supporting actor, behind Fassbender. And overall, it looks like it was a pretty frustrating morning all around for 12 Years supporters.

Did y'all talk about the Hannah Arendt film anywhere? I came very close to renting it last night.

Lou L. spills the vote totals:

Inside the New York Film Critics Circle vote:

One of the bigger surprises in the circle's voting in recent year came with Tuesday's best movie win by "American Hustle,'' which squeaked by "12 Years a Slave'' on a highly unusual sixth ballot (including one ballot that was discarded, with its results unread, on a technicality).

The circle uses an arcane voting system for its multiple ballots, which open with a round in which each member (proxies are allowed at this point) is asked to make a single choice. This almost never results in a win. For subsequent rounds, each member (except those voting by proxies) make three choices -- ranked in descending order, with three points awarded for the first, two for the second, and one point for the third.

But there's also a requirement that winners appear on a majority of ballots for he second and third round, or there's no winner. If this happens, there's a fourth round where the majority rule is dropped (I told you it was complicated). But if this fourth ballots should produce a tie, then there's a fifth run-off round between these two titles. And the number of ballots fluctuates because proxies are ineligible on latter ballots, and as the day wears on members have to leave early because of work obligations.

This is what happened in the case of "American Hustle,'' which beat "12 Years a Slave'' by a 14-to-12 margin at the end of the meeting, which ran slightly over five hours.

An hour or so earlier, it seemed like "12 Years a Slave'' was a near-lock for best picture. Steve McQueen lead by a healthy margin in third ballot -- 37 to 30 for Alfonso Cuaron ("Gravity'') and 26 for David O. Russell ("American Hustle.''). McQueen landed on enough ballots to clinch the fourth and final round: McQueen 47, Russell 32, Spike Jonze ("Her'') 31.

"12 Years a Slave'' had a much narrower margin for the second best picture ballot over "American Hustle,'' 34 to 32. The third ballot was discarded (and the results not revealed to the membership) because some proxies accidentally were included -- a no-no at this point -- and a new third ballot was taken: "Hustle,'' 38 points, "12 Years'' 30 points (with 16 apiece for "Gravity'' and "Nebraska.''

The fourth resulted in a 38-38 tie for the frontrunners, with "Gravity'' and "Her'' tied in a distant second place with 17 points apiece. By this point -- it was near 3 o'clock and we had been there since 10 -- several members had left, and "American Hustle'' pulled off its squeaker in the tiebreaker round.

Would the results have been different if the pace of voting had been a bit brisker? If the third ballot hadn't been botched? We'll never know.

Tallies of the leaders in some of the other closely watched races:

ACTRESS. Second ballot: Cate Blanchett 44, Adèle Exarchopoulos 30, Amy Adams 29; Third ballot: Blanchett 47, Adams 40, Exarchopoulos, 34.

ACTOR: Second ballot: Robert Redford, 44, Chiewetel Ejiofor, Oscar isaac, 27.

SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Second ballot, Lupita Nyong'o 46, Jennifer Lawrence 40, June Squibb 34. Third ballot, Lawrence 40, Nyong'o, 39, Squibb 27.

SUPPORTING ACTOR: Second ballot, Jared Leto 49, Michael Fassbender 24, James Franco 24.

ANIMATED FILM: Second ballot, The Wind Rises 52, Frozen 33, Monsters University 15.

FOREIGN LANGUAGE: Second ballot, Blue is the Warmest Color, 37; The Past, 23, The Great Beauty 23. Third ballot, Blue is the Warmest Color 40, The Past 32, The Great Beauty 20.

so really the 12 Years voters needed a nap

And the American Hustle bloc were almost fresh out of coke.

what year do you think the NYFCC will let their members vote electronically? "OK, only who the critics who had time to come to this star chamber for 5 hours can vote now."

At least it's catered. Rex Reed is still on the toilet.

J. Hoberman's proxy ballot:

http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2013/12/04/nyfcc-keeps-hustlin/

the silence surrounding the new Martin Scorsese film, “The Wolf of Wall Street” (which I also haven’t seen) is deafening.

Time's Richard Corliss Best/Worst:

http://entertainment.time.com/2013/12/04/arts-and-entertainment/slide/top-10-best-movies/

01. Gravity
02. The Great Beauty
03. American Hustle
04. Her
05. The Grandmaster
06. Fast & Furious 6
07. Frozen
08. The Act of Killing
09. 12 Years a Slave
10. The Hobbit 2

01. Grown-Ups 2
02. Salinger
03. The Host
04. After Earth
05. R.I.P.D.
06. Only God Forgives
07. The Big Wedding
08. The Counselor
09. Oz the Great and Powerful
10. The Hangover Part III

Hey, Rich, love that brow along the middle.

12 Years a Smaug

went for the Walker instead of Gandolfini tribute

Also, Cahiers individual lists: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaqEl9LCcAAnMj7.jpg

http://artforum.com/inprint/issue=201310&id=44049

9 BLACKFISH (Gabriela Cowperthwaite) A whale snuff-film documentary that’ll make you root for the kidnapped killer mammal and wish he had eaten alive Sea World’s evil owners.

Waters is good that way.

yes, whereas when I write 500 words, ppl say "oh Sea World's not so bad"

well, their French fries >>> Magic Kingdom's

xp Polonius to thread

well nobody asked me but I probably saw at least 125 films released this year so i have some middlebrow skin in the game. quick look through my journal and pulled a top twenty (though i'm sure I'm missing something):

leviathan
pavilion
oversimplification of her beauty
birth story: ida mae gaskin (doc)
56 up (us release, doc)
beyond the hills
room 237 (doc)
gimme the loot
upstream color
portrait of jason (rerelease)
berberian sound studio (us release)
cousin jules (rerelease)
best kept secret (doc)
20 Feet from stardom (doc)
blue is the warmest color
at berkeley (doc)
this is martin bronner
toys in the attic (jiri barta, us release [i think?])
from up on poppy hill (us release)
wicker man (rerelease)

films I really should see before putting together a list (and i would welcome suggestions for more):

the act of killing
stoker
lincoln
mud
all is lost
nebraska
philomena
fruitvale station
blue caprice
12 years a slave
pacific rim
stories we tell

films i wish i had enjoyed/had more of an impact than they did:

prince avalanche
touch of sin
drug war
gravity

most overrated by far:

francis ha

I never thought I'd live to see the day when I respected the National Board of Review's choice a zillion times more than the NYFCC's.

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/national-board-of-review-winners-2013-1200918383/

Awesome lists, forks. I'd love it if Portrait of Jason were list-eligible for me.

I misread Corliss's Top 10 worst as 11-20 of his best and thought he'd lost his mind. Or gone the full Armond, which amounts to the same thing.

I would also add grandmaster, side effects and hannah arendt to the "i need to see" list; can't handle blackfish because watching animals being abused is not something i can stomach (one of my beefs with touch of sin as well)

oh and tack on "I Used to Be Darker" as a top 21 to the faves list

Wondered if that scene in Sin was a special effect, a la the snakes.

with the horse you mean? Don't see how it could be.

xp and i GOTTA see the wind rises
i suppose i'll see her out of respect for jonze but ugh

i saw portrait of jason three times and the second show was by far the best; dude on the front row getting head from his girlfriend while a boozy trio of lesbians shouted shit at the screen for most of the film. very old school west village experience

Oh, man, I was thinking of the bird getting its throat cut. I completely forgot about the horse sequence.

To not see that movie with either booze or head-giving in the room is probably to not see it at all.

I would also add grandmaster, side effects and hannah arendt to the "i need to see" list; can't handle blackfish because watching animals being abused is not something i can stomach (one of my beefs with touch of sin as well)

― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, December 4, 2013 1:31 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

you'll mostly just see humans being abused

yeah, the dude beating his horse while the animal leapt on its own knees as a plot point did not sit well with me

for jason: well it was the second viewing! so it was sort of like IMMERSION IN TEH MILIEU as it were and an opportunity to cherrypick choice quotes and routines from the prior watch

well blue is the warmest color is getting some "humans being abused" press, right? (good call on that btw canks, it was v good.)
just can't reconcile filming dumb animals being hurt as art when they can't understand what's really going on, insert christian bale joke here i guess

just rewatched killer of sheep yet again prob while wearing a leather belt and eating a hamburger and i'm okay with that, so

I could see Portrait of Jason becoming as much a wellspring for perpetual glam quotes for the dandy set as Grey Gardens or Paris is Burning.

I'm going to hope the horse was just a really great actor.

It is! An earlier entry from the horse's filmography.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qox7x6dWYaI

props for your inclusion of Gimme The Loot forks

well blue is the warmest color is getting some "humans being abused" press, right? (good call on that btw canks, it was v good.)
just can't reconcile filming dumb animals being hurt as art when they can't understand what's really going on, insert christian bale joke here i guess

― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, December 4, 2013 1:50 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

i just meant that blackfish is mostly footage of trainers being mauled by orcas

o rly? i may be okay with that

did anybody but me see pavilion? I really liked it but (obvs by my list) i have a penchant for slow, naturalistic, open to interp, quietly clever films
http://www.pavilionfilm.com/

blackfish was rad

also best kept secret is screening on PBS's POV and i highly recommend. it's a devastating doc about a newark school for the autistic and the teacher's desperate struggle to save her kids. teared up often. my gal teaches autistic kids and conversation with her after suggested this was terribly true to life
http://bestkeptsecretfilm.com/

1. spring breakers
2. the act of killing
3. gravity
4. enough said
5. blue is the warmest colour

imo

I dare anyone to read the medical examiner report in PDF written about Tilikum's last victim.

i guess the other obscurity on my list is birth story
http://watch.birthstorymovie.com/
great documentary about the midwife movement of the late sixties/early seventies and how it's developed. there's about six full births shown from crowning to delivery and they're shot in full body and in such a way that they're really kind of mind blowing. this prob had the best special effects of anything i saw this year, iron man 3 and gravity included.

tilikum is one fucked up lil orca bro

i'm being glib about blackfish honestly; it's just too much of a downer for me to want to engage in period

(also, ignore the music in the pavilion trailer; there's basically no indie bullshit in the film proper)

gimme the loot was great; everyone should netflix stream that pronto
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Gimme_the_Loot/70234896

I have a screener of Pavilion, so I may try to give that one a watch in the next few days.

curious to hear what you think; i thought it was really honest

Ooh, I tend to like arch and deceitful.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when I respected the National Board of Review's choice a zillion times more than the NYFCC's.

Leaving aside the fact that I've only seen Her on a computer so far and like Gravity more, what happened to your Nebraska hate? And Octavia Spencer is OK in a fairly routine mother role.

Hoping I get to vote for Greta Gerwig for best actress just so forks can stick a fork in me.

Was only specifically talking about their best pic choice. Their acting picks are pretty atrocious.

i have no problem with gerwig! she's cute and a decent actress and does her job fine. but i think HA is an arch and deceitful film.

so is Saving Mr. Banks this year's Finding Neverland?

it would take major endorsements from my colleagues here for me to even dare

Also, as someone else pointed out, it's sort of hysterical that Bruce Dern put up such a big self-rightous stink about the possibility of slumming in best supporting actor ... and now his co-star (or his publicist) is pulling off one of the most blatant miscategorizations since Casey Affleck.

Haven't watched it yet, but I'm sure it'll be a "no one I know voted for Nixon" type situation.

(re: Banks)

I'm trying to figure out what the metaphor behind the relationship in Her is, cuz if there isn't one I just can't bother.

You know we are just ppl not critics groups, we can wait til January to make our own lists (or in my case, late February). Like, The Selfish Giant is coming, whatever it is.

The circle jerk formed around Payne movies – in my neck of the woods by men, of course – is beginning to cloud my judgment.

I'm trying to figure out what the metaphor behind the relationship in Her is, cuz if there isn't one I just can't bother.

See, that's the difference between you and I. I still haven't given up hope that someday I'll actually connect.

with your operating system?

well we can't discuss this further w/out spoilers so phaps later

Amy Adams line that "We're only here for a short time, and I want to allow myself joy" is perfectly delivered.

Even in a year where I got treated for an incurable illness, I can only credit her for dressing that one up with skill.

ie you can't will joy into existence, and it only comes at moments. People who are joyful daily, I don't know what their deal is.

I guess I prefer the warts-and-all vision of romantic love that came with Eternal Sunshine

You just prefer warts.

Sorry, but I'm not discussing this movie with you anymore.

u r a real pip

i probably dont need to ask but is philomena any good

id like to know that too

How much do you want to see a movie about your romance paperback-reading granny and the pet Steve Coogan she keeps in tow to spew righteous indignation for her?

Pain and Gain has (understandably) been overlooked. The Rock gives an astounding performance and the film itself is kinda a masterpiece of form meets content. Definitely shouldn't be laughed off anyone's end of year lists.

I'm sure had I seen that, I would've have overstated the summer-bad-is-actually-good case for White House Down.

:( i forgot it wasn't still november and missed my only chance to see at berkeley :(

are you sure it isn't ... still playing

what's the point if i missed the first seven hours?

White House Down is kind of great because it knows that it's stupid and dots it with satire. Pain and Gain is fascinating for its form/content but it's repulsive because Bay didn't understand that.

I completely agree, but I don't think that diminishes how great The Rock is.

Handy and daunting list of 2013's most notable -- Part 1 of 2. (Hard to believe all of these came out before August.)

http://thedissolve.com/features/2013-in-review/304-the-big-checklist-2013s-movies-to-see-january-july/

THE ESSENTIALS
Leviathan
Beyond the Hills
Spring Breakers
Upstream Color
Stories We Tell
Frances Ha
Before Midnight
The Act of Killing
Computer Chess
The Spectacular Now
Drug War

HOLLYWOOD: THE SYSTEM WORKS!
Side Effects
Fast & Furious 6
This is the End
Monsters University
The Heat
Pacific Rim
The Conjuring

AUTEUR OBLIGATIONS
Like Someone in Love
Stoker
The Angels' Share
To the Wonder
In the House
The Lords of Salem
Post tenebras lux
Something In The Air
Pieta
You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet
The Bling Ring
Byzantium
Laurence Anyways
I'm So Excited!
Only God Forgives
Blue Jasmine

DOCUMENTARIES
How to Make Money Selling Drugs
A Band Called Death
Blackfish

INDIE CURIOSITIES
Gimme the Loot
The Place Beyond the Pines
Mud
Sun Don't Shine
Much Ado About Nothing
Berberian Sound Studio
Fruitvale Station
Crystal Fairy & The Magical Cactus

IMPORTED GOODS
No
War Witch
Reality
Blancanieves
Paradise: Love
The Attack
In The Fog
A Hijacking
The Hunt

will God forgive Blue Jasmine?

Beyond the Hills, Like Someone in Love, Something in the Air, and No likely to be in my top fifteen.

Relieved I've mostly done my due diligence, at least in "the essentials" (your praise notwithstanding, I have very little desire to see The Spectacular Now).

did I mention the guy is cute?

Not my type. The guy in Post tenebras lux who in the penultimate scene pulls [REDACTED] otoh ...

AUTEUR OBLIGATIONS

srsly, God forgive anyone who prefers Alain Resnais' swansong to a buncha Apatovian jerkoffs playing apocalypse.

I've seen only two Essentials, regret nothing. Most of them haven't been possible to see. Only Only God Forgives will be on my list, but I'm a strictly world-premiere-guy, and most of the best of that list premiered in 2012.

at this point I loathe thinking about Before Midnight, one of the last times I convinced myself that a movie was good.

I did that once with a Dardennes movie. It was horrible.

Looks like the remaining movies are up here:

http://letterboxd.com/scotttobias/list/the-big-checklist-movies-to-see-2013/

The Grandmaster
Short Term 12
The World's End
Wadjda
Gravity
A Touch of Sin
Captain Phillips
All Is Lost
12 Years a Slave
Blue Is the Warmest Color
The Great Beauty
Nebraska
Inside Llewyn Davis
American Hustle
Her
The Past
The Wolf of Wall Street
The Butler
Prisoners
The Counselor
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty
Prince Avalanche
Passion
Camille Claudel 1915
Bastards
At Berkeley
Go for Sisters
Faust
Cutie and the Boxer
First Cousin Once Removed
Informant
After Tiller
Let the Fire Burn
The Square
These Birds Walk
Narco Cultura
Europa Report
In a World...
Ain't Them Bodies Saints
Drinking Buddies
Blue Caprice
Enough Said
Don Jon
Escape from Tomorrow
Dallas Buyers Club
The Motel Life
Il Futuro
The Selfish Giant

excepting the gonzo film style (and that's a big but), there is no reason to discuss escape from tomorrow at all

Yeah, that movie is the pits.

File under: Things I Don't Get 2013 (if you can find room in the file) -- Gore Verbinski revisionism

no one can make me see Captain Phillips

Am presuming this is the batch tagged "essential" from Aug-Dec:

The Grandmaster
Short Term 12
The World's End
Wadjda
Gravity
A Touch of Sin
Captain Phillips
All Is Lost
12 Years a Slave
Blue Is the Warmest Color
The Great Beauty
Nebraska
Inside Llewyn Davis
American Hustle
Her
The Past
The Wolf of Wall Street

Sore Thumb omission: The Last Time I Saw Macao

And The Long Ranger, obv.

Heh, "lone."

lone ranger is the year's best action scene surrounded by a whole bunch of bad movie

I "understand" most of the defenses for the movie. I just don't get why those same defenses don't apply en masse to White House Down, After Earth, et al.

some people loved After Earth! seitz gave it a comically glowing review

my friend loved it too and i didnt understand why (i hated it) until he explained that it was like Avatar "except instead of a white guy living the fantasy of going native, it's about a weird stage dad living the fantasy of being a present father"

Okay, i will watch that now

J.Ro yells at critical cloud (about 70% otm)

http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2013/12/en-movimiento-the-season-of-critical-inflation/

his hair is about 70 percent wrong

dude, at 26 that Spectacular actor is way too old for you.

but he plays a high school senior. We can meet in the middle.

Beyond the Hills, Like Someone in Love, Something in the Air, and No likely to be in my top fifteen.

Top fifteen hardest-to-google movie titles.

try scrambling them: Something in the Hills, Beyond Someone, No Love

scolding other critics (and throwing in some counterpunch-style pseudo-lefty blathering for good measure) is all rosenbaum's done for like the last decade. the guy needs a hobby.

Aaron Cutler on the year's best restorations:

http://www.fandor.com/blog/great-film-restorations-of-2013

To date I've only caught the Anne Robertson films (at NYFF Avant Garde), Sidewalk Stories and Mauvais Sang (finally figured out I don't much like Carax).

I'm thinking Ta-Nehisi Coates' advice a few months ago looks better and better: mention or link to critics whose work you disagree instead of setting up potential strawmen.

For the record ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BarntECCEAAG54v.png

Apparently he's just mad at the critics besmirching the reputation of La Region Centrale. (Ye gods!)

i'm not complaining that he doesn't like any particular movie, but his sneering tone is insufferable.

It's certainly the most anti-detrius thing posted in this thread so far that's not from Morbius' corner.

But having actually attended the Gaslight Café in Greenwich Village in 1961, the setting of this film’s opening scene, I can attest that even if some of the regulars there occasionally said “fuck,” they didn’t use the word in almost every sentence, as many do today, including the alleged “period” characters in this movie.

the idea!

golden youth

I don't think they cursed that much in the real Deadwood either

you kids and the salty mouths

E.B. Farnum: Some ancient Italian maxim fits our situation, whose particulars escape me.

Francis Wolcott: Is the gist that I'm shit out of luck?

E.B. Farnum: Did they speak that way then?

finally got Enough Said in the mail; probably seeing Gondry/Chomsky cartoon after work

(fellow critics, latter's link is apparently yrs for the asking from the flack)

I generally like Hoberman a lot but his Llewyn takedown is weak and he mischaracterizes The Act of Killing pretty badly.

Sore Thumb omission: The Last Time I Saw Macao

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This could make my list

not sure I like anything better

I hear music

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/the-15-best-film-scores-of-2013-20131205

(Part 2, btw ... http://thedissolve.com/features/2013-in-review/306-the-big-checklist-2013s-movies-to-see-august-decem/ )

Man, I just can not abide that Zimmer score.

That Dissolve list isn't their EOY list/countdown/whatever, is it?

Nah, it's just their list of the 100+ movies that you should see before calling it a year.

I didn't like the 12Y score either (assume you didn't mean Man of Steel).

I haven't even called 1961 a year.

Really, not finding room for Last Time I Saw Macao with 103 movies is daft.

i've seen all of...two movies on that dissolve list

about 40 for me

I think I'm sitting at about 110 or 120 movies this year. Which is actually pacing really well for me at this time of the year.

(Total, not on the Dissolve list.)

you and Morbs should Skype and watch The Spectacular Now together,

OK, cupid.

I usually top out at about 100 new features, but I hate when contemporary cramming costs me seeing retro, as happened this week with Visconti's restored Sandra. Yesteryear is where it's at for me generally, with MoMA, Film Forum, BAM etc.

I was much more interested in How I Live Now, which is gone already, than TSN.

all movie scores are bad

I love music too much to have much patience for movies that don't feature any.

The Birds?

Ristle-tee, rostle-tee, hey donny dostle-tee, knickety-knackety, retro-quo-quality, willoby-wallaby, Now, now, now!

i knew it

Morbs, did you end up seeing Is the Man Who Is Tall Happy??

seconded, i'd like to know if i should catch it in theaters but honestly i think i'm done with gondry unless i hear a RAVE REVIEW

I just read this one, which made it seem promising.

I did, it's splendid. I just gave it my only vote for animated film (cuz, um, it's the only animated film I saw this year aside from about a tenth of The Oversimplification of Her Beauty.)

One seventh.

There will be no point to include every city's crix awards, especially when in this case we're still just on "nominations," but there's enough WFT fun in the D.C. group's nods to give them a mention.

Best Film:
American Hustle
Gravity
Her
Inside Llewyn Davis
12 Years a Slave

Best Director:
Alfonso Cuarón (Gravity)
Spike Jonze (Her)
Baz Luhrmann (The Great Gatsby)
Steve McQueen (12 Years a Slave)
Martin Scorsese (The Wolf of Wall Street)

Best Actor:
Leonardo DiCaprio (The Wolf of Wall Street)
Chiwetel Ejiofor (12 Years a Slave)
Matthew McConaughey (Dallas Buyers Club)
Joaquin Phoenix (Her)
Robert Redford (All is Lost)

Best Actress:
Cate Blanchett (Blue Jasmine)
Sandra Bullock (Gravity)
Judi Dench (Philomena)
Meryl Streep (August: Osage County)
Emma Thompson (Saving Mr. Banks)

Best Supporting Actor:
Daniel Brühl (Rush)
Michael Fassbender (12 Years a Slave)
James Franco (Spring Breakers)
James Gandolfini (Enough Said)
Jared Leto (Dallas Buyers Club)

Best Supporting Actress:
Scarlett Johansson (Her)
Jennifer Lawrence (American Hustle)
Lupita Nyong’o (12 Years a Slave)
Octavia Spencer (Fruitvale Station)
June Squibb (Nebraska)

Best Acting Ensemble:
American Hustle
August: Osage County
Prisoners
12 Years a Slave
The Way, Way Back

Best Youth Performance:
Asa Butterfield (Ender’s Game)
Adéle Exarchopoulos (Blue Is the Warmest Color)
Liam James (The Way, Way Back)
Waad Mohammed (Wadjda)
Tye Sheridan (Mud)

Best Adapted Screenplay:
Julie Delpy, Ethan Hawke & Richard Linklater (Before Midnight)
Billy Ray (Captain Phillips)
Michael H. Weber & Scott Neustadter (The Spectacular Now)
John Ridley (12 Years a Slave)
Terence Winter (The Wolf of Wall Street)

Best Original Screenplay:
Eric Warren Singer & David O. Russell (American Hustle)
Woody Allen (Blue Jasmine)
Nicole Holofcener (Enough Said)
Spike Jonze (Her)
Joel Coen & Ethan Coen (Inside Llewyn Davis)

Best Animated Feature:
The Croods
Despicable Me 2
Frozen
Monsters University
The Wind Rises

Best Documentary:
The Act of Killing
Blackfish
Leviathan
Stories We Tell
20 Feet from Stardom

Best Foreign Language Film:
Blue Is the Warmest Color
The Broken Circle Breakdown
The Hunt
The Past
Wadjda

Best Art Direction:
Production Designer: Andy Nicholson, Set Decorator: Rosie Goodwin (Gravity)
Production Designer: Catherine Martin, Set Decorator: Beverley Dunn (The Great Gatsby)
Production Designer: K.K. Barrett, Set Decorator: Gene Serdena (Her)
Production Designer: Jess Gonchor, Set Decorator: Susan Bode Tyson (Inside Llewyn Davis)
Production Designer: Adam Stockhausen, Set Decorator: Alice Baker (12 Years a Slave)

Best Cinematography:
Emmanuel Lubezki, ASC, A.M.C. (Gravity)
Simon Duggan, ACS (The Great Gatsby)
Hoyte Van Hoytema, F.S.F., N.S.C. (Her)
Bruno Delbonnel, AFC, ASC (Inside Llewyn Davis)
Sean Bobbitt, BSC (12 Years a Slave)

Best Editing:
Alfonso Cuarón, Mark Sanger (Gravity)
Eric Zumbrunnen, A.C.E., Jeff Buchanan (Her)
Dan Hanley, A.C.E., Mike Hill, A.C.E. (Rush)
Joe Walker (12 Years a Slave)
Thelma Schoonmaker, A.C.E. (The Wolf of Wall Street)

Best Original Score:
Christophe Beck (Frozen)
Arcade Fire (Her)
Steven Price (Gravity)
Thomas Newman (Saving Mr. Banks)
Hans Zimmer (12 Years a Slave)

The Joe Barber Award for Best Portrayal of Washington, DC:
Lee Daniels’ The Butler
The East
Olympus Has Fallen
Philomena
White House Down

The Joe Barber Award for Best Portrayal of Washington, DC:
Olympus Has Fallen
White House Down

Because missiles are constantly tearing through Dupont Circle on a daily basis.

Franco seemed happy about that nom.

best youth perf in a US film shd go to the American Hustle kid who sez "daddy's a crazy SOB"

Aside from the ScarJo OS horseshit where is the 'fun' in DC exactly? Looks p conventional.

i guess foreign film could come down to The Hunt vs The Cunt (ducks)

American critics groups are like closet cases about the best films being made outside America, right?

European Awards went all out for The Great Beauty.

Nick Davis sez ScarJo is fab in Don Jon but I haven't seen it.

Mary-Louis Dreyfus isn't getting cited much, no? She didn't die before a film's release.

maybe ppl can't remember her name?

I think a lot of critical support for Holofcener is "soft," not passionate. Her best bet is to inherit some Perceived-as-Sophisticated Urban Comedy votes if Woody Allen ever stops.

what's so hard about remembering Alfred Dreyfus?

Holofcener did just win a screenplay citation from Boston, which, along with the much higher-profile LA crix, are in the middle of live-tweeting right now:

http://twitter.com/LAFilmCritics
http://twitter.com/TheBSFC

production design for Her from LA is a laugh... obv the salary for composing handwritten letters pays for a swanky high-rise apartment in the near future.

apparently i have no idea what production design means

Boston goes to 12 Years a Slave, but one insider says runner-up Wolf of Wall Street would've run the table if only a number of critics had been given the chance to screen it.

https://twitter.com/tyburr/status/409771459939028992

LA's sending arrows of love straight to your heart, Morbs.

BEST SCREENPLAY, Winner: Richard Linklater, Julie Delpy, Ethan Hawke, "Before Midnight."

the heart of an artichoke

Three high-profile ties is kind of a credibility destroyer.

LAFCA
BEST PICTURE (tie): Gravity and Her
BEST DIRECTOR: Alfonso Cuarón, Gravity (Runner-up: Spike Jonze, Her)
BEST ACTOR: Bruce Dern, Nebraska (Runner-up: Chiwetel Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: (tie) James Franco, Spring Breakers and Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club
BEST ACTRESS: (tie) Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine and Adèle Exarchopoulos, Blue Is the Warmest Color
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Lupita Nyong'o, 12 Years a Slave (Runner-up: June Squibb, Nebraska)
BEST SCREENPLAY: Richard Linklater, Julie Delpy, Ethan Hawke, Before Midnight (Runner-up: Spike Jonze, Her)
BEST DOCUMENTARY: Stories We Tell (Runner-up: The Act of Killing)
BEST ANIMATION: Ernest & Celestine (Runner-up: The Wind Rises)
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY: Emmanuel Lubezki, Gravity (Runner-up, Bruno Delbonnel, Inside Llewyn Davis)
BEST EDITING: Alfonso Cuarón and Mark Sanger, Gravity (Runner-up: Shane Carruth and David Lowery, Upstream Color)
BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN: K.K. Barrett, Her (Runner-up: Jess Gonchor, Inside Llewyn Davis)
BEST MUSIC SCORE: T Bone Burnett, Inside Llewyn Davis (Runner-up: Arcade Fire and Owen Pallett, Her)

Great to see Nyong'o get some recognition.

lolca

cloaca

eh I'm dreading my screening of Nebraska.

Sasha Stone tweeted that the James Franco pick was an example of "critics being quirky just for the sake of it."

wow good insight sasha stone

ILXor runnerup!

NY Film Critics Online

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-ny-film-critics-online-12-years-a-slave

Not that it needs pointing out, but note that it's the online groups that are steering the conversation back to the same place it's been for the last four months running. Regardless of whether you feel 12 Years is indeed superior to Gravity, Her and American Hustle, that's quickly becoming the annual bummer of the detrius.

In other words, Rex Reed OTM?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba_MzuHCIAAf_VW.jpg

I only use the Internet for the Internet Movie Database to look up filmographies of people and to see what their credits are

suuuuuurrre

dunno what he means by "the Internet." Are those people in "the Internet" in critics groups or Oscar voters?

"I really like to be the only person in the room."

I'm not going to think about what Rex can "bare"

so wait, what would the discussion be if the dead-tree critics were "running things"? All the big-city critics groups are now composed of a mix of online-only and pub-employed writers.

Unless you want to just wait for the Indiewire and Film Comment polls, as if.

No, those are still the obvious high point of the season. That and the roster of new National Film Registry additions.

Where can I find a pub to pay me to drink cider and review movies?

Reposting from AH thread, thanks to Eric: David Edelstein's list http://www.vulture.com/2013/12/david-edelsteins-10-best-movies-of-2013.html

Good on him for remembering Much Ado.

LWL's list is sort of endearingly schizo: http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/features/articles/lwlies-top-10-movies-of-2013-25551

Only God Forgives is a dark Oedipal ballet, a lucid fever dream that pulls you in from the opening frame and doesn’t let you go."

Its such a beautiful day is one i missed, worth including in a top twenty

More inclined to retroactively include "Everything Will Be OK" in my 2006 top 10.

Morbs is apparently letting me do the honors. Nice to see Museum Hours in the screenplay category at any rate.

http://www.ofcs.org/the-online-film-critics-society-announces-17th-annual-awards/

Best Picture
12 Years a Slave
American Hustle
Before Midnight
Blue Is the Warmest Color
Drug War
Gravity
Her
Inside Llewyn Davis
Short Term 12
The Wind Rises

Best Animated Feature
Despicable Me 2
From Up on Poppy Hill
Frozen
Monsters University
The Wind Rises

Best Film Not in the English Language
Blue Is the Warmest Color
Drug War
Museum Hours
Wadjda
The Wind Rises

Best Documentary
56 Up
The Act of Killing
At Berkeley
Blackfish
Stories We Tell

Best Director
Joel Coen, Ethan Coen – Inside Llewyn Davis
Alfonso Cuaron – Gravity
Spike Jonze – Her
Steve McQueen – 12 Years a Slave
Hayao Miyazaki – The Wind Rises

Best Actor
Chiwetel Ejiofor – 12 Years a Slave
Tom Hanks – Captain Phillips
Oscar Isaac – Inside Llewyn Davis
Mads Mikkelsen – The Hunt
Joaquin Phoenix – Her

Best Actress
Amy Adams – American Hustle
Cate Blanchett – Blue Jasmine
Julie Delpy – Before Midnight
Adèle Exarchopoulos – Blue Is the Warmest Color
Brie Larsen – Short Term 12

Best Supporting Actor
Barkhad Abdi – Captain Phillips
Michael Fassbender – 12 Years a Slave
Jared Leto – Dallas Buyers Club
Matthew McConaughey – Mud
Sam Rockwell – The Way, Way Back

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Hawkins – Blue Jasmine
Scarlett Johansson – Her
Jennifer Lawrence – American Hustle
Lupita Nyong’o – 12 Years a Slave
Léa Seydoux – Blue Is the Warmest Color

Best Original Screenplay
American Hustle
Blue Jasmine
Her
Inside Llewyn Davis
Museum Hours

Best Adapted Screenplay
12 Years a Slave
Before Midnight
In the House
Short Term 12
The Wind Rises

Best Editing
12 Years a Slave
Drug War
Gravity
Her
Inside Llewyn Davis

Best Cinematography
12 Years a Slave
The Grandmaster
Gravity
The Great Beauty
Inside Llewyn Davis

Bummed Leviathan got scratch.

really, I have to watch Short Term 12? AND pay #13.50 to see Blue Jasmine?

rather surprised enough watched In the House to name it for screenplay.

and did they mail out Great Beauty screeners?

Morbs let you do the honors cuz he has not gotten an email with the nominations

tbf I don't think anyone has yet?

I'm gonna say what I said last year: it could be loads worse.

So do I vote for Gravity as the only viable counter-tactic blocking a 12 Years win? Or do I cross my fingers that my actual #1 choice has a shot in hell.

just the fact that I don't hate any of the BP nominees I've seen is a start.

whatever makes you happy... SLAVER! xp

total snubbing of All Is Lost = fucking brats from the Internet

Yeah, these aren't entirely cut-n-pasted from Oscar bloggers' shortlists (only two-thirds so). It's just that some of the deviations were in the wrong direction (e.g. Sam Rockwell).

xp thx Madonna

hm, it's such a beautiful day came out in 2012... maybe just now UK released?

total snubbing of All Is Lost = fucking brats from the Internet

Not to mention Nebraska. Electric youth!

feel the power! see the energy!

Oh, it's ranked choice. OK, that definitely helps.

guess what my #10 will be?

Scarlett Johansson – Her

*puke*

Between Her and Gravity, I have no idea which one is your bigger axe to grind.

Oh wait, lol, I missed that the one I'm going to vote for in screenplay also got a best pic nod.

it is the Year Zero

10 nominees is some bullshit

I'd hold off on securing that #10 slot for Before Midnight until you actually take in Short Term 12.

hm, it's such a beautiful day came out in 2012... maybe just now UK released?

― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, December 9, 2013 6:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was premiering in the UK at the Glasgow Film Festival earlier this year

AFI MOVIES OF THE YEAR

12 YEARS A SLAVE
AMERICAN HUSTLE
CAPTAIN PHILLIPS
FRUITVALE STATION
GRAVITY
HER
INSIDE LLEWYN DAVIS
NEBRASKA
SAVING MR. BANKS
THE WOLF OF WALL STREET

Was about to point out the lack of foreign films on that list and then I slapped myself on the forehead.

Apparently some elements within and outside the OFCS take it as a point of pride that their BP went to Argo last year, before anyone else. The world is a bad place.

Richard Brody puts Malick and Scorsese on top, and razzes Before Midnight and All Is Lost:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2013/12/the-best-movies-of-2013-richard-brody.html

It's really nice of him to actually promote cinema as the creation of new images, but then the list is mostly made up of the old and well-known...