At what point did you give up on caring about music?

never stopped

When they stopped making good music.

when was that?

Over 40, I still care about music a lot, but in a way that looks very different from what "caring about music" meant when I was 25 -- i.e. I still buy music, still see shows, but no longer feel any Fear Of Missing Out or in general any need to keep up. And there are no longer new records I listen to hundreds and hundreds of times until I have them essentially memorized. In other words I'm not sure my younger self would say that my current self "cares about music."

So, "Other."

I still care about music but I'm not able to put in the time to find good music (particularly indie/rock/etc.). Pretty much all the new music I've bought in the last couple of years has been rap - I actually hear good rap on the radio occasionally, whereas rock radio offers me nothing and the indie/NPR station might as well be playing Paste samplers.
The overwhelming choice and variety and random release scheduling of the digital age has pushed me toward making less of an effort.

i care about music more than i ever have.

Has ILM actually put anyone off music rather than just off reading about music?

shit, forgot to put in "Stopped clubbing"

Care less than I used to, but still care.

can't stop won't stop

my answer to this falls somewhere between 'never stopped caring' and 'when i realized i prefer watching tv'

I care in a different way. I don't care about being the first to know about new stuff (stopped being that guy after high school) and I don't really care about knowing the canon anymore (stopped after realizing I didn't like most of it) but I've never stopped obsessing over music, what it can do and how different it can be. I became a poptimist a decade too late, I suppose...

tie between "Realised you preferred movies" and turning 40

started a family

of course I still care about music, but that was the final straw in terms of it still feeling like a crucially important part of my life, central to my identity, something I'd devote several hours a day to in one way or another, etc.

Just now

Thanks, special character

Has ILM actually put anyone off music rather than just off reading about music?

― ۩, Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:43 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think ILM gradually put me off having any kind of strong convictions about music (other than "I really like x"). I'm pretty much incapable of dismissing anything anymore, or of having an absolute dogmatic feeling about any aesthetic choice.

never stopped

I am afraid that this thread, mordy's thread on "what really matters," and bends' recent revive of the "ILX is sad" thread indicates that ilxors are collectively coming to the realization that they don't want to be doing this and the boards will
be abandoned within a month...

or we will all double down on ilx as the only thing to fill the void in our horrible horrible lives

If it makes you feel better treeship I was unaware of those threads. It was just something I was thinking about recently after thinking about friends , acquaintances, neighbours etc. that used to be really into music and just arent anymore. I know so many people who gave up on it either after university or stopped going clubbing.

treeship, are you going to post to my thread? i think it could use you.

When they stopped making good music.

― pplains, Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Music is like any art. When it is at its best, it's amazing and moving. But there's a ton of mediocre art out there, whether it's music, poetry, film, sculpture, architecture or macramed plant holders. And I just don't care much about mediocre art other than to think it is clogging up valuable sensory space.

In the case of music, most of what I am exposed to these days is on the radio, and most of it is pretty weak beer. I listen a lot to a classical station, because even though there's crappy classical, too, the general level of quality is a bit higher than contemporary pop - plus no commercials, which helps immensely.

I will stop caring about music when I die

Start worrying then if you stop liking music DJP

stopped caring about shakespeare during the annus mirabilis of 1922

DJP OTM.

I don't understand the mindset that defines "caring about music" as "caring about NEW music" tbh

me neither, but if ILX has taught me anything, it's "i don't understand the mindset"

I still like music but dont really care about it. Radio at work/in car music etc. is good. FITTER HAPPIER MORE PRODUCTIVE COMFORTABLE NOT DRINKING TOO MUCH REGULAR EXERCISE AT THE GYM 3 DAYS A WEEK

ppl say this all the time and it's def an ilx cliche at this pt but i think it's true: if you aren't hearing exciting new music you're probably not looking in the right places? i understand if you don't have time to investigate + be all thorough but there's so much different music being made that something appealing is certainly out there.

I've also been wondering if music basically being free now with piracy has meant people care less about it OR has it reinvigorated those who had lost interested into checking out music again. Certainly found that older people have become the latter (ie 30+) in the past decade

one of my biggest joys has been getting into new genres/styles/musical origins and parlaying that into other interests (textual/poetic/political/geo-ethnic/etc) - music both for itself as these gorgeous moments of sonic joy but also as gateways into new fields + locations of interest that otherwise may not have occurred to me - like music is a wound that allows access to the other.

the point I was making, though, is that you can dislike the majority of new-to-you music that you come across and still care very deeply about music

LOL nv

like, I think 80-90% of modern hip-hop is hot garbage but guess what? I still fucking love music, I listen to it close to 8 hours a day, old favorites and new stuff, including hip-hop that ends up disappointing me because there's a chance it will be the greatest fucking thing I've heard in YEARS and that moment of discovery is one of the greatest feelings in the world

"Never stopped caring" is the closest, but, as with most people I'm sure, I care in different ways than when I was 12 or 21 or 30. That would need a lengthy elaboration.

if you aren't hearing exciting new music you're probably not looking in the right places?

This is undoubtedly true. I suppose it comes down to caring enough to take the time to sift through all the possibilities - kind of like an archaeologist spending 20 hours poking about with a toothbrush for every interesting fragment of an artifact that gets unearthed. If that is the measure of "caring about music", then I guess I no longer care about music, because I won't take that time these days. Maybe in a couple of years that'll change.

wd argue that as i stopped being a fan i really started caring about music

musing to music is something that never gets old, sorta by definition?

i think i care in a much deeper way now than when i was 12. when i was 12 i had this overwhelming emotive experience where green day + disturbed + (less lol) nirvana spoke to me on a really intimate emotional level and sometimes i listened to music and i couldn't even express what i was feeling when i heard it - it felt like emotions were being unlocked and then spilled and overflowing over my entire essence it was almost too much. but i don't know how much it led me outside myself as opposed to giving me access to stuff already going inside that i didn't really have the vocabulary to express. today though it is a huge component of how i interact w/ and understand the world outside me. and then touching that stuff comes back and alters me fundamentally but i don't think in 1997 i was looking for music to change me, more to help me purge my feelings - experience some emotional catharsis.

tl;dr what nv said i think

part of what i meant, i think, tho i hadn't thought of it in those terms - but being a fan meant looking for something that wasn't just the music, and at the time i thought it was the artiste

I certainly wouldn't claim there's "no good new music" it's just that I've lost my capacity to care in the same way. For example, five years ago I KNOW that this William Onyeabor reissue thing would have me all het up, and I'd be getting all excited about it and talking up a storm with music buds. Now I just kind of shrug my shoulders at it. I'll listen to it, and I'll probably enjoy it, but I just no longer have the hormones or brain chemistry or whatever it is to feel like it's really important to my life that William Onyeabor is being reissued.

I've also been wondering if music basically being free now with piracy has meant people care less about it OR has it reinvigorated those who had lost interested into checking out music again. Certainly found that older people have become the latter (ie 30+) in the past decade

Not piracy exactly, but getting spotify has definitely increased my excitement about music both old and new, which maybe had been dwindling a bit beforehand

I follow new music much less (if at all,) I purchase much less, and I listen much less due to time constraints. Still care immensely.

i mean, there's an obvious real difference between being a teenager with not much else to do but sit alone in my room consuming music and daydreaming and being a oh fuck it nevermind

voted "realized i preferred reading books" but actual answer was "started caring about school/future"

i'm all het up about that william onyeabor rerelease

* i'm unclear about the etymological root of "het up," it's not some homophobic expression is it?

something I'd devote several hours a day to in one way or another

If that's the standard, then my answer is "I never cared," but I thought I DID care, so now I'm all confused.

xp

archaic past tense of "heated" from regional UK English i think

xp
het up = heated up, as a loose analogy with irregular verbs like leap-leapt

never knew it was a UK regional thing, always thought of it as southern US, but a lot of southern US stuff has roots in the UK

i'm making a bit of an assumption about UK origins, i've always thought it was from Yorkshire or at least northern England, it's a very Yorkshire-sounding inflection

quick Google suggests origins in Scots which wd tie in with southern US usage, yes?

good ol' ILX

word up

The William Onyeabor record is a great example of how excited I can be about an older record I've never heard before, and yet newly released stuff rarely gives me this pleasure. My love of music is heavily nostalgic, I guess. That wasn't the case when I was younger.

Never stopped caring about music because I love writing about it.

I was relieved to read that the gerogerigegege guy wasn't dead, but didn't feel the need to listen to it in celebration of his not having died, so that's a kind of caring?

I think when I was younger (when I was a teenager, I guess) I saw music as a kind of escape route from the crapness and pointlessness of my everyday life? Not even necessarily that I was planning on making music, or being in a band even, but the music I loved, and the new music I was discovering, it was like 'this is what life could be like! this is a way of existing!'. I'm struggling to explain this coherently, but all seemed to be leading somewhere, somehow? Whereas now, I still 'care' about music just as much, but not in the same way (in a less healthy way, maybe? when I really enjoy music I think it's often because it makes me nostalgic for when I was hopeful about the future).

I've also been wondering if music basically being free now with piracy has meant people care less about it OR has it reinvigorated those who had lost interested into checking out music again. Certainly found that older people have become the latter (ie 30+) in the past decade

Not piracy exactly, but getting spotify has definitely increased my excitement about music both old and new, which maybe had been dwindling a bit beforehand

― Moodles,

I forgot about Spotify and it's impact.
How many would stop using it if the free model only limited you to 10 hours of music a month?
Would you then look to hear more music elsewhere or just give up?

but i don't know how much it led me outside myself as opposed to giving me access to stuff already going inside that i didn't really have the vocabulary to express. today though it is a huge component of how i interact w/ and understand the world outside me.

I think I'm maybe the opposite of this? I used to feel like music was leading me to the outside world, now I tend to appreciate it when it is dramatising my own private obsessions/paranoias etc

Dramatising my own? Didn't happen much, and when it did I didn't like it.

i gave up caring about music just now when i found out that music today is, sadly, worse

It was a shocking revelation that shook my soul, NV, when I read that.

I just wasn't prepared

don't know what i'm gonna tell my kids tomorrow

tell em after they have done their piano practice. Let them enjoy it one last time.

Why did mordy think het was homophobic

Did I miss something

"het up" as straight verzh of "man up" i guess

as in hetero
xp

oh duhhhhhhh

I think it's corruption of "heated", as in "lighted" -> "lit"

yeah, archaic past tense of "heated" from regional UK English i think

I listen to music all the time but I stopped trying to keep up with the bleeding edge of new stuff unless its recommended by someone I know. Been sold a false bill of goods by pitchfork, etc too many times. Also stopped caring about keeping up when I realized the hipster arms race only leads to mutually assured destruction and there will always be someone out there who thinks theyre cooler than you are.

At what point did you stop getting het up about music?

mayor jingleberries did you buy that big 'n rich album then?

He touched the Big 'n Rich stove and got burned

lol @ hetero up

like when I walk into a roomful of straight dudes?

"Mr Hudson, we're gonna need you to het up for this role"

I don't know about gays, but the Vietnamese consider het offensive

still care enormously and joyously, but in different ways to when I was 15. MASSIVE changes to my listening came from the rise of podcasts in the last few years - having 25-40 hours of brand new content of ppl talking that I 'have' to get through per week leaves far less time for relistening and relistening and relistening to new music to see if I like it.

i also like way more music than i used to

not that I've been consuming ilx too voraciously of late but lol that it took me until this thread to figure out who ۩ is

never stopped is p unavoidably my answer but this is tempered by

- enormous shame and sense of crushing failure tied into the role it plays in my life and the size of that role
- teethgrinding irritation at the ways in which I see people "caring about music" every day

I am way more into music now that I'm in my 30s. Probably because I'm largely into metal, and prior to the explosion of things like Amazon Prime and easily obtainable digital media (legal), I often was at the mercy of the local record stores' selection, but now I can be surgical about what I buy/listen to.

Hell, by the end of this year, I'll have attended 19 different shows and one festival, where my previous high was like, probably 7.

Oh yeah, podcasts! It has completely taken what was one of the most important uses of music for me: Making me fall asleep at night! And furthermore, that I no longer listen to music to fall asleep, and much more listen to music to move to, has really changed what kind of music I become obsessed with, I think.

My "care" changed when music became my full-time job. Considering that I spend about 80% of my professional time working on music that is not within my personal taste-spectrum-- and this esp. includes the music that comes out of my mouth and body that I put my name to-- my care has turned into concern? Or interest? When I listen to a record now, it feels like research.

Doesn't sound like much fun

Well, I don't normally ride the Adorno train but this is a nice quote I read last week that kind of nails it:

"What opened up to, and overpowered, the beholder was their truth, which as in works of Kafka's type outweighs every other element. They were not a higher order of amusement. The relation to art was not that of its physical devouring; on the contrary the beholder disappeared into the material; this is even more so in modern works that shoot toward the viewer as on occasion a locomotive does in a film. Ask a musician if the music is a pleasure, the reply is likely to be-- as in the American joke of the grimacing cellist under Toscanini-- "I just hate music." For him who has a genuine relation to art, in which he himself vanishes, art is not an object; deprivation of art would be unbearable for him, yet he does not consider individual works sources of joy. Incontestably, no one would devote himself to art without-- as the bourgeois put it-- getting something out of it; yet this is not true in the sense that a balance sheet could be drawn up: "heard the Ninth Symphony tonight, enjoyed myself so and so much" even though such feeble-mindedness has by now established itself as common sense. The bourgeois want art voluptuous and life ascetic; the reverse would be better."

classic

the last sentence of that passage is one of my favorite adorno quotes

otm

My answer is implied

http://991.com/newgallery/Front-242-Never-Stop-356003.jpg

'got married / moved in' is such a sad reason

i always imagine those people as, like, trying to unpack the stereo one day, and the spouse/s.o. is like, 'do you really think we have room for that in here??'

a joykiller that's that shit i don't like

the alternative pov is 'found better things to do than to sit listening to music in a room alone'

better than those things = sit listening to music in a room TOGETHER

driving in your car listening to music alone

better than those things = sit listening to music in a room TOGETHER

tbh my life (love and otherwise) got a lot better when I stopped caring about compatibility in musical taste (and to a lesser extent, movies)

i still like music and find much of it deeply affecting, but have narrowed my tastes and pursuits significantly after my religious awakening. i have def stopped keeping up with the buzzzzzzzzzz though

all you guys are doing this wrong. except for ned obviously.

taste and buzzzzzzzzz are so dummmm. i mean, see that billy corgan / kim thayil thread for reference! music is about so much more than that. buy a record player with your spouse and go record shopping together. you have to be open. morday otm upthread.

i do live in the western u.s. but i've never been to burning man.

it's like they say, if you live by the buzz you'll die by the buzz

do they say that? it's got death built into it.

i had something about tapping on your desk at work, syncopation, louis armstrong and african drumming but i deleted it. so sorry.

when I realised that the cool kids were not going to come round to my home, look at my record collection, and go "that's amazing, you don't look like it but you must be one of us after all"

(more serious but probably no less truthful answer: still get the shivers of "why can nothing else make me feel this way" but happier and happier to retreat into music I already know or music - new to me or otherwise - from 30 years ago, which would have appalled my teenage self)

Did anyone ever think they would never stop caring about music then actually stop in later life?

I wonder if anyone working in record shops or music critics have become jaded and ending up not caring about music?

can't stop won't stop

― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the "too old for this"/"got coupled up" reasons are just the most pitiable things, would h8 to have your lives

I once went into my local record shop after spending a few months out of the country and asked the guy what interesting stuff was out (this was before ubiquitous internet), he said he didn't know as he'd stopped caring about music.

Still care, albeit i different ways and about different types of music. Hollered along to Manic Street Preachers and Dismemberment Plan as I drove across Devon on my own last night, which isn't how I listen to music at home, where it's about aesthetic contemplation or space&time enrichment or whatever. It's seldom about catharsis any more in the way it used to be. I'm cool with that. Or, actually, it's about a different kind of catharsis.

Lex (and anyone else) do you think that one day you might stop caring about music for any reason?

the "too old for this"/"got coupled up" reasons are just the most pitiable things, would h8 to have your lives

One day it mught be yours!

(xp)

I certainly hope not. I suspect, give the way my tastes ave changed, that I'll just care about different types of music, which is absolutely fine. Music is a tool in many ways, that you use to enrich your life. At different points in your life you need different kinds of enrichment.

Lex (and anyone else) do you think that one day you might stop caring about music for any reason?

can't really imagine and certainly don't desire it tbh, music is amazing

Pretty sure people don't desire it, it just happens

Very true. I know plenty of people who were really into music for a long time and they get a relationship/mortgage and that's that. Also know plenty of people who think new music is rubbish and not as good as it was when they were a teenager and rarely listen to music except in the car (always one of their old favourites)

Does having too much music around now put anyone off?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2012/11/21/165567394/we-get-mail-how-much-music-is-too-much-music

I've always thought that if for some reason I stopped caring about new music and all music that I've ever liked, that would free me up to spend a few decades getting into jazz. Sounds like a good deal.

haha that is exactly my plan (more specifically, when i feel i'm too old to go clubbing) (that's not yet btw)

cant imagine work/commute w/out music

take this to I Don't Love Music guys

driving in your car listening to music alone

― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship)

otm

i wouldn't say i care any less about music now than i did when, but i do think i've found a more sensible place for it in my life. i don't worry so much about music as culture and where i fit in, things that once occupied me to an unhealthy degree, rather just follow my transitory pleasures & interests around.

on my brief foray with the most recent "partner", we spent an evening playing songs that meant a lot to us for each other as a means of getting to know each other. two's not a crowd w/ music.

also it's way easier in this day and age to listen to music wherever the fuck you want to, it ain't like the late 90s when I only had a goddamn cassette player in my car and had to wait to get home to listen to whatever shitty cd I bought.

the "too old for this"/"got coupled up" reasons are just the most pitiable things, would h8 to have your lives

Well yeah that's you why you don't have that life! I would hate to not cook but I don't think it's pitiable that you don't.

pretty sure you're speaking for yourself on point two there, eephus.

i don't mess with lex, lex is the King of Research

(citation needed)

I get more joy from my daughter than I ever did from any record. That doesn't mean I stop listening to records -- in fact, I look forward to her being older and discovering/rediscovering great music with her, and maybe even jamming with her. But my daughter means I don't have time to go digging for new stuff to listen to all the time, and I also don't get obsessed with a record the way I did once, or at least that's the cumulative result of my job plus my wife plus my daughter -- just not much energy and time left.

A guy in my office was a moderately successful painter but gave it up and I asked if he ever missed it or thought about painting again -- he said "Well a little, but it's usually a choice of painting a painting versus seeing my son's soccer game, and that's an easy choice."

As I've gotten older I've gotten more excited about catching up with new music – a development I don't think will change should I ever get a man who would rather cook spaghetti than hear me bitch about Lorde.

I get more joy from my daughter than I ever did from any record.

pitiable

i guess it helps that regardless of love for music i 100% want no children in my life ever

bf has v different music taste to me (the overlap is small but significant though) and cares little for over-analysis of it, this hasn't lessened my propensity for bitching about lorde

Plus, the idea of forcing Good Music – as I see nice liberal well-intentioned parents do – on the child whom I won't ever have is ick.

... that reminds me, I went to see a performance of Stockhausen's "Gruppen" a couple of weeks back and there was a woman with two small boys in front of me a man with another two small boys in front of me, that's bordering on child abuse

That is a dumb post. Kids are the best equipped people to deal with Stockhausen

Oh right. Of course.

sounds like something a victim of Stockhausen Syndrome would say xpost

I get more joy from my daughter than I ever did from any record. That doesn't mean I stop listening to records -- in fact, I look forward to her being older and discovering/rediscovering great music with her, and maybe even jamming with her. But my daughter means I don't have time to go digging for new stuff to listen to all the time, and I also don't get obsessed with a record the way I did once, or at least that's the cumulative result of my job plus my wife plus my daughter -- just not much energy and time left.

Why this obsession with "new"? Why is the definition of caring about music centered around how much time you spend chasing new sounds?

at what point did you forget about caring what other people thought about the music you listened to

I went with the still like / don't really care option as the closest thing, but like others have said, it depends what you mean by 'care'. I still care; I no longer obsess. It's rare for new music to really sock me between the eyes (or ears) these days, but it can still happen. In car music is not just good, it's mind-blowingly great, if it's something you can sing along to, transforming your inner self while the car noms on miles of motorway. And the old songs don't lose their grip.

rubber ring rubber ring rubber ring

Why this obsession with "new"? Why is the definition of caring about music centered around how much time you spend chasing new sounds?

Depends whether you mean "new new" or "new to you". If you don't care about the bleeding edge but are happy seeking out "new" music that's years old, that's totally valid. But I think someone who claimed to really care about music and only ever listened to albums they already owned would get the side-eye from most people here.

My answer is mainly social. I still love music and I'll always play it myself and listen to music. But post-HS I got heavily into playing in bands and a local music scene and I've just gotten disillusioned with it. Eventually I started playing shows where nobody would show up and the bands were all grumbling about not wanting to headline because they wanted to leave early because they had something better going on.

Also I think I am not the right type of person to be hanging around in bars with functioning alcoholics all the time. Hangovers these days are KILLER. So yeah part of it really is "I'm gettin' too old for this shit".

important to make the point here that new music is rubbish, i feel?

new music is rubbish and always has been.

otm

old timey music

Depends whether you mean "new new" or "new to you". If you don't care about the bleeding edge but are happy seeking out "new" music that's years old, that's totally valid. But I think someone who claimed to really care about music and only ever listened to albums they already owned would get the side-eye from most people here.

Given the amount of music most of the people who post here own, that's a wholly unwarranted side-eye. I could pretty easily spend a year listening to nothing but the music in my iTunes library and never hear the same song twice and not everything I own is currently in there.

And this is all from the consumption side; I haven't even gotten into the amount of time I spend rehearsing/performing music, most of which was written anywhere from 80 to 400 years ago.

totally. hell, if new music purchases were banned by New Lord Emperor Roberson, just listening to the albums I've acquired in the last year on repeat would probably take me 2 years to even get to a point where I'd listened to each one enough to get tired of them.

though unlike you DJP, I'm singing less and less these days, but Caroling season is almost up thankfully....

Get a church gig! Or at least get on sub lists; easy money if you can find it (honestly don't know what the scene is like outside of Boston/NYC)

Oh right. Of course.

In my experience, kids are super-receptive to high-content classical music, Stockhausen and Cage especially-- though I would never myself take an under-14 to a Wagner opera or a Mahler symphony, those are for adults imo

sine waves

I still enjoy music. I try to make an effort to listen to new stuff, but whereas before I would listen to a lot of new music and filter out most of the stuff I didn't like myself, these days I rely way more on recommendations/reviews/message boards/end of year lists to decide what new stuff to check out.

Looking back in my itunes library I realize how much early-to-mid 2000s stuff I have from when I worked my second round at a college radio station and during peak filesharing days and how little of it I remember ever listening to. It was new and I had heard about it somewhere so I had to listen to it.

Now that I'm 39.33 years old I don't care about novelty as much and have found much more joy waiting to see what filters out as being worthy or going back and finding old records that I missed.

After reading this http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/nme-staff-pick-their-top-10-greatest-albums-of-all-time
I realise that NME writers have given up on new music since so many choices are from 2 decades from before they were born.

Am I the only one who finds that weird?

Nope.

Even pitchfork isn't like that is it?

yeesh, those NME lists are so depressing and dull. I can't believe there's a *professional music writer* who thinks five National albums belong in the top 10 best albums, but that's really the least bad list there because at least it shows some originally.

entirely guesswork on my part but I suspect that's a coupling of 'really, really liking The National' and 'thinking objective alltime top 10s are kind of silly and not really to be taken seriously'

It made a change from 5 Beatles or Stones albums.

My Top The Only Ten Albums in my college freshman year roommate's CD changer of at All Times

that would have been Weezer's "Say It ain't So" on repeat

the dude next door to me would put it on over and over, and would sing along with it...loudly, all day.

Ah, college memories: the guys in the adjoining room playing The Cranberries "Zombie" on repeat, that time when my "date" came by my dorm room and demanded I play "Under The Bridge" multiple times, the dorm-wide beer nights where they'd play the same DMB CD week in and week out, my hippie friends that only ever wanted to listen to Dick's Picks.

Wow, things are so much better now.

that would have been Weezer's "Say It ain't So" on repeat

― Neanderthal, Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:44 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the dude next door to me would put it on over and over, and would sing along with it...loudly, all day.

― Neanderthal, Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:44 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

We had almost the exact same dude in my college house, only he'd insist on playing Weezer at EVERY fucking party we threw -- he'd also insist on setting up a giant beer pong match on a full-sized door in the middle of a bunch of people having a good time. Somehow people liked our parties anyway.

he'd also take his shirt off to play beer pong. BTW, he also would not shut the fuck up about how his gf had "great fuckin tits"

thank god I was able to drown out everyone around me with Acen and The Prodigy

Probably if I had ILX at the time of living with that dude, I would have started a thread about him. He was obsessed with whoever those radio dudes were that did WOW (Whip-em-out Wednesdays), and he once badgered his very nice and long-suffering gf into (reluctantly) flashing those DJ's at an event. I vaguely remember an exchange afterward where he was justifying it as a "cool experience," and she was like "no, that is not my idea of a 'cool experience'."

this question is so weird to me

Why? Some people do just stop caring.

xxxpost I got revenge on Weezer boy by playing Mortician at deafening levels, though in retrospect, that forced me to take a lot of friendly fire....

like what do you non caring people do when you hear something cool for the first time, turn it off. i am confused

even when I stopped caring about music, briefly, I still listened to music to help me explore that feeling. in recent times i've experimented with having feelings that aren't extracted from me via music, in order to better understand that process, with some success too.

like what do you non caring people do when you hear something cool for the first time, turn it off. i am confused

― ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*turns off cool music*. No...I can't be...THAT PERSON....again.

or perhaps they only listen to Crispin Glover reading excerpts from Rat Catchings

jjj im sure they enjoy it whilst it plays? they might just not care any further than that? I'm pretty sure that's what most Normal people are like.

I just dont want to be normal in that case.

haven't any of you gone through even a little burnout? i wrote about techno day in day out for fucking years and after i stopped, for a little while i hated it, even though i didn't totally stop listening. this sort of made me resent music for a time. sometimes music or other hobbies become tied up in other parts of your life and it can be hard to extricate them, especially if there are issues of depression or whatever.

it's not like you turn something off that's cool, you just can't digest it.

as i said tho, i never stopped listening to music even in times where my relationship with it was less positive, i just listened to a less diverse rotation.

I've hated jazz at times, which is pretty much the music I've spent the most time listening to. I even have days where I suddenly go "Wait a minute, this DOES sound like a bunch of noise."

I think most of us have (I do every so often). I think it's the presumptuous wording of the title that's bothering/confusing folks...ie, it presumes we've all lost interest, and just wants to know when (7eah there's a "I haven't lost interest", but it's sandwiched in the middle of 30 other options).

opie + anthony xxxxxp

i was a fan in 10th grade

haven't any of you gone through even a little burnout?

Burnout such that I didn't want anything to do with music, either as a listener or performer? Honestly, no. I've gotten tired of what I've been listening to and switched to different artists/genres, and I've quit choruses but I've always looked for another one; in fact, aside from a 2 year gap after college while I established my day-job career, I've been singing regularly in a chorus since I was 12.

I have burnt out on keeping a personal music blog, though; my issue is never going through the music itself but trying to write about it.

I get burnout once a week, which means I don't listen to music while I read. It's gone when I awaken in the morning.

djp otm. i def burnt out on writing about music. i used to actually care about the adjectives i used to describe something i liked.

I get burnout once a week, which means I don't listen to music while I read. It's gone when I awaken in the morning.

I used to listen to music in absolutely all situations possible, but now I sometimes enjoy silence. Not often, but like this has been a big deal in the last two years, to even contemplate going somewhere without music, now and again, or reading in silence, or even listening to a podcast instead.

Mordy otm about adjectives.

I have at least stopped playing music in the background while watching TV, to my wife's delight

Every couple of years I get burned out and generally go through a phase of not listening to any music for a couple of weeks. I always come back though.

Considering that I spend about 80% of my professional time working on music that is not within my personal taste-spectrum-- and this esp. includes the music that comes out of my mouth and body that I put my name to [.....]

― reeves garbles (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 00:06 (22 hours ago)

this seems quite surprising to me? did the latter category once more closely align with your 'personal taste-spectrum'?

Occasionally I will walk to work without listening to music and be like "these street sounds/birds/random bits of overheard conversation are actually pretty good"

I've not listened to much music this week at all however I'm not burned out on it. Just sometimes silence can be nice for a few days.

remember what Prince said: "We'll try to imagine what silence looks like."

like what do you non caring people do when you hear something cool for the first time, turn it off

I would say, of many songs I hear and like, "I am content to hear and enjoy it in the moment and don't need to hear it a hundred more times, or even find out what it's called and who's playing it."

And of course if you are not actively seeking out new songs to listen to, there's no real reason you WOULD hear something cool for the first time. Where would you hear it? I learn about new stuff because I read about it on ILX, but if I didn't...?

I used to listen to music in absolutely all situations possible, but now I sometimes enjoy silence. Not often, but like this has been a big deal in the last two years, to even contemplate going somewhere without music, now and again, or reading in silence, or even listening to a podcast instead.

This is so otm to me, sometimes I just don't bother putting music on the instant I'm in a situation where I can do so and this was never the case previously.

I also listen to podcasts all the time when I'm building things in the wood or metal shop or walking the dog but I can't when reading / writing / designing at a computer; I am unable to adequately pay attention to both.

http://i.imgur.com/2vwv9Of.jpg

Never got into podcasts

Never, although I've been IMMENSELY frustrated with The Biz on and off. Depends on how accommodating the biz is to me, as a consumer.

Spotify renewed my interest in hunting down soul and new wave, it's terrific that people can hear stuff they couldn't before. But with new music it is really difficult to find what you like. I'll search electronic lists and won't like eighty percent of the stuff other people like. I moved recently and had to put my stuff in storage so I'm having a heck of a time finding the neo-psychedelia I'd collected. I find reviews worthless these days, sick of reviewers and alternative radio shows pushing bands who are AWFUL as if they have anything to do with anything else I like.

Considering that I spend about 80% of my professional time working on music that is not within my personal taste-spectrum-- and this esp. includes the music that comes out of my mouth and body that I put my name to [.....]

― reeves garbles (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 00:06 (22 hours ago)

this seems quite surprising to me? did the latter category once more closely align with your 'personal taste-spectrum'?

hmmmmm short answer: no. I have made very little that myself-if-not-myself would ever be interested in. But a) this is not a rare feeling amongst pro musicians ime, b) it's not an unhealthy attitude, to keep yourself self-critical, c) that doesn't mean that I don't find, say, my shitty film scores to be extremely artfully written and well-produced shitty film score.

I chose 'OTHER', but, really, it's a little complicated to explain these things.

I actually never stopped caring about music, but my definition of what 'caring about music' means has changed.

When I was a kid, around 10 years of age, I went through this discovery phase. I listened to as much music as I could. I lived in a household where I had access to hundreds and hundreds of albums. It was probably the time when I discovered the most at the fastest rate, which probably has its drawbacks.

After high school, I cared about genuine music that had something to say and all that kitschy stuff.

My mid-20s was probably when I wrote music the most, so I cared about music in terms of experimentation, didacticism, moods it suggested, tonal spectrums and stuff.

So, what I'm saying is I listened to music in different ways. So I cared about music in different ways.

My late 20s were kind of crazy. I sold all my music gear (as I wrote on here a while ago) and hated music for a relatively short while. But it was kind of silly because I was still writing music in my head. I was the most cynical during this time, I think.

Nowadays, even though I still do not own any musical instruments and have not played an instrument since, I very much care about music, but I don't have the urge to discover new music necessarily. Yes, I seek out a few bands/artists, but very rarely does something move me anymore (which I think is a natural stage in a music fan's life). Some acts still do, and when they do, I study them on my spare time -- it's a pretty casual hobby, I guess you can say. There isn't that rush of needing to get home or put on those headphones to really take it all in. I guess music is like meeting girls. Once you've met enough, you reach a point where the new ones don't really draw you in so much, so fast, but the ones you do, you only really see once in a while, when you have time, because there are bigger and better things that need to be done in one's life.

I don't know. I was never the type to go to shows or check out what (new music) people were listening to.

Music was always a very personal, lonely road for me. It was very self-gratifying. I guess this interpretation is what led me to conclude that music and many art forms really are problematic, because they can be addicting and crippling, with no real use. I mean, on the one hand, I can probably go on just as many others can about how music helped me through a lot of hard times or how much it meant to me or saved me and blah blah blah, but I can't say I wouldn't change it. For me, music was a crutch and helped me dwell in my misery a lot of times or become overzealous.

I guess I still care about music, but it exists in an almost fantasy land that I don't have the luxury of escaping to anytime I want to anymore.

i can pick up rinse by buying some headphones and plugging them into the audio out bit of this easyeverything computer. meanwhile, i have decided to turn my back on music, at least until i have a flat. It feels strange, when you are caught up in the torrent of music, desperately trying to not fall behind, then just saying, fuck it, i wont listen to anything for 4 months, wont even hear anything, and see what happens. it feels liek the world is going to end, but it doesnt i guess. although, the hermetic approach doesnt always bear fruit. the stereo mcs locked themselves in a box for 10 yrs to make their last album, and it was awful.

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, January 12, 2004 1:20 AM (9 years ago)

Nobody ever stops caring about music, they just stop caring about what others think about music.

^ somebody run that copy on a Axl Rose jpeg, put it on FB and I can start slowly walking into the ocean knowing I've done my part.

Plenty if ilxors have stopped caring about music. Plenty have never cared but it's not surprising they haven't clicked on this thread. I had expected some to say ILM put them off music!

It's easier than ever to carry about music. Gosh, I remember I used to haul around one of those case logic things that held 10 cassettes. That thing was the size of a lunchbox!

I had expected some to say ILM put them off music!

why? i mean i guess it's easy to lol but purely as a music resource ilm is pretty amazing.

Yeah, it does more than anything else to keep my interest in music up. It's where I find about most new artists and think hardest about the music I already know.

Just the impression some have gave me. I did not include it in the poll for fear of joke votes but I honestly expected one or two to say it does.
I agree its an amazing music resource.

Since I forgot to include the 'gave up on music after i stopped clubbing' option has that happened to anybody?

AKA ... after I stopped taking drugs and enjoying myself?

certainly listened to less dance music after i stopped clubbing

but not music altogether

well tom that has been known to happen to some
xp

Albeit not something anyone would admit to, especially on a music orientated board.

Or was Tom saying he stopped liking music after stopping taking drugs?

Not me personally

Do you know anyone who has?

My original comment was about how, for a lot of people, clubbing was more about getting off your face than the actual music

And also getting old and boring

I find it very sad that people can only like music if they're on drugs rather than letting it enhance their listening.

cruelty to children and animals is very sad, how people choose to relate to culture not so much

Alt question - When did anyone here give up caring about NEW MUSIC and just listened to either music they already have or only listen/check out older music that is new to them?

NV how about pathetic instead of sad then?

Maybe it's just me, but I suspect that's implied in the original question? (xp)

xp i don't think it's pathetic either! i just don't worry about how other people engage with creativity. culture is such a vast expanse of commodities now, it's all too easy to try to consume as much as possible or worry about whether you're consuming enough and whether it's the right stuff but people's time and attention and emotional and intellectual inclinations are all finite. i don't think the secret to a rich life lies in any particular form of cultural engagement.

to me all that is stating the most obvious of obviousness but maybe some people disagree?

Maybe it's just me, but I suspect that's implied in the original question? (xp)

Argh

I find it very sad that people can only like music if they're on drugs rather than letting it enhance their listening.

I think if you consider cigs & booze drugs, you will find this is a LOT of people. Many of whom often state how much they sincerely love music.

you dont consider them drugs eh

wonder sometimes if people ever really cared about music as much as what music could do for them

ask not...

Maybe it's just me, but I suspect that's implied in the original question? (xp)

No

and now you upset djp!

I almost gave up on music the other day after hearing the Hero & Leander songs Doran posted mind you. I almost gave up on life tbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9qT6TBr9RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfegwx0ROg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M3fHSD-VU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znoz1IJbK_k

Watch all those and tell me you dont feel like giving up on life

oh ffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibpcIb_JuDw

Ok yeah I def know who you are

who is it???

Nobody important

typical self-deprecation there, marcello

Albert camus?

I likes the melodics musics.

Lol

James Brown made me stop caring

Geir hangs w Doran...? What a wild world!

;)

I didn't realize Geir was human, always imagined he was something like:

http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/09/Ninja-Turtles-Classics-Krang-Shredder.jpg

I find it very sad that people can only like music if they're on drugs rather than letting it enhance their listening.

Absolutely.

If your primary point of reference for music is clubbing while rolling, when you stop doing that wouldn't some of the link be broken?

this assumes that people who go clubbing only listen to music when clubbing. or that humans don't have a memory. or that we don't develop a liking for things over time by exposing ourselves to them... and so forth.

But it does happen to some. Maybe others might say they didn't particularly care about the actual music but that's not for me to say.

I never stopped but I find I'm now listening to a lot more podcasts and stuff than I used to.

i have never listened to music as a default state, like just turning it on when i get home. it's always a sort of conscious thing. i can easily go hours and days without putting anything on. i like it this way, it feels more voluntary to me. the idea of having music on while i'm reading is insane to me, it would drive me batty.

I used to have music AND the television on while reading

basically my life is defined by how thoroughly I can barrage my senses

I still do, DJP

I like very, very minimal ambient on while I read.

hard bop jazz is great for reading

^ works better for me than most classical or ambient

with 50 fading fast in the rearview mirror, I find I care more about music than ever ... though over time my engagement with it has become less social and more about personal enjoyment and self-education

I've gone with 'other', because while I've never stopped caring about music, attachments to specific pieces/styles of music definitely stopped being a part of my public identity at about 18. I stopped 'externalising' my musical tastes. But I still judge other people for theirs, undeniably, although I catch myself in the act now and feel annoyed.

'normal' people judge 'us' as "weird" for being into music tbf

for a long time in the western world a passion for music was considered a vice on par with drinking, gambling, pornography, gluttonous eating, etc

Is that true?

So it's true, people really did have more fun in the olden days?

they may have enjoyed music more, but records from the olden days are sketchy at best.

yeah noone knows how many records were sold in the 1960's

no?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Never cared about music

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

so 45 people stopped liking music but the good news is if you still like it at 40 then you're in it for life.

fire = honoured

I should have asked before I voted, but can you prefer movies/TV and still care about music?

that would still mean you cared more about movies/tv than music.

If you prefer TV Movies to music i'd be scared though.

I suppose most ilxors who never cared about music didn't bother clicking on the thread?

the thread you would need is

At what age did you realize you never cared cared about music

fagvo 'cared' is all