"I've Watched A LOT of MOVIES, Paul!" - The ILX 2013 Film Poll Voting and Discussion Thread -Closes Feb. 28th, Midnight EST

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The rules are fairly simple: Everything that had a US commercial theatrical release between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 2013 is eligible. Hopefully the end date will allow the Brits/etc to see most of the eligible films before we vote, and it will also exclude people voting for films that got their shout-out in 2012 stateside. There is no nominating because there are only around 800 choices and everyone can find out what they are.

There is an (incomplete) list here, but if there's anything you're not sure about just look up the IMDB entry and check the release dates.

EXCEPTION!: Since it got a proper theatrical release in most other countries, Behind the Candelabra is eligible. I'll not let the decrepit state of US film funding spoil your fun if you were passionate about it.

Each ballot can be up to 25 votes, all weighted, with normal rules applying. Please don't submit a ballot with less than 5 films.

Send ballots to ilxfilmpoll2013 at g ma il . com

Since there is no official list allowing for easy copy and pasting, please use the English names of foreign titles.

Voting ends at Midnight EST, February 28th. Hopefully the roll-out will start on Oscar Day. There will probably only be about 30 films in the countdown, though if there is enough voting I'm happy to extend it to 40 or so.

Now that's a long lead!

Ok, I'm out. I'm not gonna be fucking bothered with a poll that restricts itself to US theatrical releases, as that would disallow Closed Curtain, Harmony Lessons and Till Madness Do Us Part aka the three best films of 2013. Also, I won't get to see much of the great stuff until april. This is completely pointless.

Really, everyone should be allowed to vote for everything, who cares if one or two idiots vote for Beasts of Southern Wild?

It's a more level playing field as people can rep for films that are actually somewhat attainable by people interested in voting. afaik Closed Curtain as *only* played film festivals, which a vast majority of us cannot get to.

I wouldn't be as spicy about it, but I agree with Fred. If Closed Curtain already suffers limited access, what's the harm letting the one person whose seen it vote for it.

I don't really care about having a 'level playing field', this isn't a contest about best taste, but about championing great movies! And the greatest films are festival-films.

And there's where I disembark.

I guess it made sense to me to follow the general outline of how publications and sites tend to do these things, if only because it makes it easier for everyone to have a chance to weigh in as opposed to a privileged minority prattling on about The Immigrant which nobody else will get a chance to see.

I know friends in 2012 who loved Leviathan and were twitchy about not being able to put it on their lists etc but by holding off for an actual release it got a lot wider recognition than it would have otherwise, if only because people had a chance to see it.

What if I had a "Top Unreleased Films" ballot of five or so films for each voter and did that as a sub-poll?

Well, the thing is though, that if we do this the way publications and sites do it, then the list will be more like those from publications and sites. Shouldn't this be like, an ILX-list, with all the weird local stuff that would include?

Sorry, don't mean to sound so angry or dismissive, but when you're not American or British, and like the more festivally stuff, then the level playing field is just unattainable. I haven't seen Stray Dogs or A Touch of Sin or Le Passé or all that stuff, and I can't see it before voting ends. I've already made a top 15 for 2013, and I think only 8 would be eligible, and most of those won't get a 2014 release anyway.

'Those' being the 7 unreleased ones.

We will vote for Closed Curtain next year.

Mud was shown in festivals in 2012 but it's a 2013 release so it's all good, if anything the ballot is a little late on festivals but there is enough good films out there to make something interesting I'm sure.

xposts

The vagaries of release platforms is annoying, sure, but a lot of the 2013 end-of-year-list hitters were 2012 festival films.

Shouldn't this be like, an ILX-list, with all the weird local stuff that would include?

There very well might be so few voters that the one vote for that weird local stuff will make it on the list, but more than likely it won't make it not because of its quality, but because nobody has even had a chance to see it. Closed Curtain e.g. will almost definitely get some kind of release in the next year, and then there will be a lot of consideration for it. An unreleased poll will do a lot more to get people to watch out for some of the films you champion.

I can vote for Taxi Driver, right? (Just agitating EH.)

Just refrain from citing any Sidney Lumet.

Can a Mod help me here:

Unreleased Sub-Poll

You may also include a separate ballot for Unreleased Films, whether they have no distribution or will get a release in 2014. You can include up to 10 films, so festival goers and British fans of Alan Partridge and Ben Wheatley can have their voices heard.

Ok, I'm out. I'm not gonna be fucking bothered with a poll that restricts itself to US theatrical releases

sigh

And thus the first attempted ILX year-end movie poll belly flops like the Spruce Goose it was always predestined to resemble.

RIP this poll then

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I'm sad.

It seems like an easy problem to solve. Collect ballots, let people vote for whatever they want to vote for. Of the highest-placing 30 or 40 films, my guess is that the great majority will be easily recognizable as 2013 releases. If you get five films you're not sure of, check those; if they had an official release anywhere, or a festival showing anywhere--US, Britain, whatever--count it. If it's clearly not a 2013 film, substitute the next highest finisher. I bet it wouldn't take more than 30 minutes online checking a handful of judgement calls.

Yeah, I suppose we could do that. Probably should have said any commercial release anywhere, because ugh festival voters, but okay, let's try it again.

All films eligible unless it had a US release before 2013, because I don't wanna deal with Lincoln or Zero Dark Thirty or fucking Amour.

MODS

Knowing that any 2012 release won't be counted anyway, there would be an incentive for voters to check their own lists--I know I'll need to check a couple of documentaries I saw last year.

Well a lot of the "Oscar contender" US films don't come out until the first few months of the next year in a lot of countries, so I could see why someone would vote for them, but I'm hoping they can catch up a bit before voting ends for the 2013 ones. I don't care for having something like Stranger by the Lake coming in quite low this year, and then (if it were to ever be done again) quite low next year because the vote was split. Still, I get the annoyance at seeming US-centric, it just seems the fairest way to let as many people as possible have a chance to view them before voting if they so inclined.

You could always P&J this year's votes into next year's totals.

I'm really sorry for being a dick, both of the compromises put forth sound completely workable. I will make a list no matter what and it will perhaps be really unpersonal (I would have put Faust on my 2011 ballot, as I managed to see it early 2012), but who cares. A thing though: What about VOD-releases? Like, Les Salouds and Neighbouring Sounds, were they ever theatrically released? They might deserve to be on all the lists.

But really, no matter what: Great initiative, Gukbe!

And again, sorry.

And guys, Closed Curtain! Just saying.

Both Neighbouring Sounds and Les Salauds were released in the US in 2013.

Might run an irish-released 2013 poll if thats ok with everyone

look american hustle is gonna win this thing anyways so limiting it to american release dates doesn't seem that big a deal

i mean it's show business not show socialism

wow, people are bailing for reasons that have nothing to do with why I'm not participating.

And the greatest films are festival-films.

And the average ILX moviegoer doesn't go to festivals. Or read about them. Or knowingly go to "festival films."

Why are you not participating?

bcz every ilx film poll ever

there won't be enough films from the 20s in the rollout

Neighboring Sounds was 2012 US release, no? VOD films tend to get theatrical exhibition as well.

yes it was, such as those things go (ie 4-8 cities probly)

american hustle is gonna win this thing anyways

If this gets off the ground, and enough people vote, I'm positive Wolf of Wall Street would win. Going by the thread, a couple of us hated it, a couple more found it half-tedious/half-okay, and whole bunch of people thought it was good-to-great.

jesus, this was a problematic start huh

I guess not everyone was reading the detrius thread when we were talking about it.

Shouldn't we have a campaining thread where we can shout at people to check out Les Salouds and Post Tenebras Lux and stuff?

this is ILX, nobody's stopping you from shouting at people and telling them how to spend their time

ive seen feck all movies from this year. what i have seen was mostly meh with the exception of "the bling ring".

Llewin Davies will win this, not American Hustle

i just read the future in my turkish coffee

I think you should discourage people from voting unless they've seen, oh, 5x the number of films they're voting for.

The high-finishing films will be everything that was up for a Golden Globe, minus Mr Banks and A/Osage County and plus Pain & Gain and Upstream Color.

This is ILX. I'm sure we'll find quiet Saving Mr. Banks stans.

Tx for relaxing on eligibility Gukbe. I was never going to check for release dates, only if I thought it was a 2013 release.

(I am not going to vote for L Davis if it makes it on the top films front for me bcz its out this week in the UK therefore its 2014 in my mind, so what constitutes 2013 or 14 is not something I watch too closely).

I may include a doc or two...assuming this is ok.

why no, documentaries are not films!

Hopefully the end date will allow the Brits/etc to see most of the eligible films before we vote,

see, the rules are designed for you to count films like ILD

If I watch a doc on the big screen => film!!

I am going vote for Dumont's Outside Satan however wiki says it premiered in Cannes in 2011, but I saw it in a one-week run in Jan'13 => this film is from 2013.

See, its easy.

Leviathan should count. As should Til Madness do us Part and Manakamana on the unreleased list.

Also, nobody votes without having seen Post Tenebra Lux, right?

xyzzz OTM in every way - was thinking specifically of Hors Satan

why are we not making a short list instead of posting a wiki with every film ever? now might be a good time to do that?

Hors Satan premiered in (a scant few) US theaters in 2013. That's why it counts. It also fucking stinks.

My docu comments were not sincere.

also, you could start with these

http://filmcomment.com/entry/50-best-films-of-2013

but they don't even mention Pain & Gain

OR An Oversimplification of Her Beauty, OR The Gardener.

or Iron Man 3

i'll vote if i get to vote for DTV films

also unlike your ILM tracks it's harder to just steal every good film off the internetz

haha WRONG

yeah that's super easy actually?

it's better, faster, and stronger to just steal every good film off the internetz

u shd see them on the big screen anyhoo

Can't find Closed Curtain. Ipso facto, you can't steal the good movies. There are lot of good movies that can be stolen though, and a lot of other good ones which can be streamed legally.

Yeah one of the reasons for the initial eligibility is that almost all 2013 US releases are on the internetz so everyone could see whatever people were repping for.

It seems silly to have a nominations list, doesn't it? I thought this thread would be for campaigning.

You can't find Closed Curtain because it isn't released yet.

Well, I can't find A Touch of Sin either. I'm no expert in stealing movies though, though I have my ways.

Touch of Sin comes on DVD in March so it'll be available online in mid-February.

Cool!

Some documentaries I liked this year, besides the Overlook, Wiseman, and Big Star: I Am Divine, Good Ol’ Freda, Our Nixon, Everybody Street, Gore Vidal: The United States of Amnesia, The Trials of Muhammad Ali, Continental, Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation, Scatter My Ashes at Bergdorf's.

posted this on the detritus page but here just for reference:

personal top 19:
leviathan
pavilion
an oversimplification of her beauty
birth story: ina may gaskin (doc)
56 up (us release, doc)
beyond the hills
room 237
gimme the loot
upstream color
portrait of jason (rerelease)
berberian sound studio (us release)
cousin jules (rerelease)
best kept secret (doc)
20 Feet from stardom (doc)
blue is the warmest color
at berkeley (doc)
this is martin bronner
i used to be darker
cutie and the boxer

B+ stuff:
happy people (doc)
iron man 3
kid thing
big star: nothing can hurt me (doc)
una noche
the wall (us release)
wicker man (rerelease)
from up on poppy hill (us release)
side effects
resolution
caesar must die

films I really should see before putting together a list:
beyond the candelabra
no
post tenebras lux
only god forgives
our nixon
blackfish
pacific rim
mud
museum hours
stories we tell
monsters university
the heat
hannah arendt
act of killing
all is lost
nebraska
philomena
fruitvale station
blue caprice
12 years a slave
these birds walk
the grandmaster
her
the wind rises
enough said
wolf of wall street
in a world...
inside llewyn davis
wadjda
like someone in love
lenny cooke
bastards
august osage county
the last time i saw macao
tim's vermeer
after tiller
the counselor

films i wish i had enjoyed/had more of an impact than they did:
prince avalanche
touch of sin
drug war
gravity
ain't them bodies saints
escape from tomorrow
simon killer
the we and the i

most overrated:
frances ha

overall worst film:
walter - lessons from the world's oldest people

I believe Cousin Jules counts as new (at least under Film Comment rules) because it never got a regular US release before. Same with that mediocre Rivette film from the early '80s that's on their list.

everybody should vote for cousin jules then; it's captivating

will be v dissapointed if the ilx poll ends up with gravity, american hustle and 12 years all in the top spot (with wolf, blue jasmine and lleywn davis following)

people should VOTE to make that NOT happen

I will vote in this I think, I saw some films

forgot this was happening... are you getting ballots?

I got one. Might cancel.

If I'm the other ballot it will be a good poll.

Do it morbius

Gukbe cmon you need to be out there hustlin I shouldn't need to explain this in awards season

frankly i would need to re-review most of my top 10

I will vote as well, but I'm trying to watch a lot of films first. Also the un-released ballot, as well. Also, if you need some help with running the Poll, I'd be happy to lend a hand. I do feel bad...

I'll have a ballot if I can find it in myself to like movies.

Frederik: We've opted just to include whatever people want so you don't need a separate unreleased ballot.

I'll start hustling more. Been a crazy 3 weeks but it's settling down now.

I'll be sending one for sure. (Just lost Eric.) I've just been waiting for this thread to reappear--will get a ballot out tonight. (Just lost Morbius.)

All Is Lost on DVD today btw

xp hah, if anything your shitty taste is going to make me more likely to post a ballot

I haven't seen inside llewyn davis yet & it's showing at my local cinema tomorrow night but not until kinda late in the evening and I'm tired/can't be bothered. Do I need to see it before voting?

I won't. It premieres March 3rd over here.

Well I've got 2 ballots but after I started this things in my personal/professional life have kind of been in flux so I don't think I'll be able to do it anyway.

Unless there are a bunch of people really jazzed about voting and I can try to accommodate but there seems to be very little interest.

(Totally cop to not repping the way I should have which is part of the problem)

I look forward to voting. And I would love to help counting it up, if needed.

yeah it hasn't exactly set the board on fire. fwiw I was planning on voting on thurs, after I'd seen bastards (and maybe llewyn). It's funny that ilx doesn't have a film poll actually, I think a snapshot of what ilx's films of the year would be pretty cool plus moaning and bickering and other such fun. I never read those long EOY tetris threads cause I assume they're full of awards talk & idgaf about awards.

I don't really understand why there isn't more interest in this. I wouldn't expect it to match the music poll, but even half that would be 40-50 voters.

I just don't have the access to enough current/recent films to cast an educated ballot. I think the time to ballot-poll any given year should probably be about five years later.

But people don't listen to every album in the music poll - of which there are a lot more options - but still vote. I think it's fine not to have seen everything.

Five years later would be too much of a legacy poll when I think a contemporary grading is a lot more useful.

^yeah, it's your favourite films that you saw in 2013

Dunno how representative I am but I saw maybe 10 new films in 2013, whereas I probably gave at least a cursory listen to 100s of albums.

Flip it, and that's what I did.

Albums suck.

at least part of the problem is the release schedule outside the US lags, so if you want to make sure everyone has access to at least the oscar movies then you need to wait until april to declare the year over.

And then if you do that, you create a system where the american oscar movies has an undue advantage as the only films everyone has seen, which just makes us asshole jingoistic foreigners even more angry.

But really: There are so many good films just on VOD, that I can't really see why people couldn't make a diverse list with just a little kind of effort.

I think of seandalai's post as the expected ILXor ratio

also I intended to rewatch all of my "top 10" by now. Hasn't happened. Comparing utterly different films is bad enough, but one I saw 8 months ago vs last night?

really? that seems a little low for a 12-month period. I don't even post on film threads much but I feel like they have quite a lot of traffic. Most people I know irl watch more movies than that, and ilx is full of big nerds!

I'm going to vote! I hope to see a couple more this week, but I'll vote by Friday regardless.

was gonna have a look in the 'last (x) movies' poll and send the vote on Friday but er not if this isn't happening.

I suppose we have the Oscars.

I'll do it if people send in the ballots. If only get 5 or something then I'll just post the results here.

hi there what's going on

can i vote for the paperboy? it was only released in the uk this march.

go on then

top 10 ballot sent :)

its 11 but that's ok too.

i'll vote by the end of the weekend if youve not tallied by then

I voted too. Had to stop at 10 because I only managed to see 32. They were a carefully screened and selected 32, though. :)

Sent one.

getting into double figs for ballots!

Voted, I had a 20-minute window to put together a ballot so I'm sure I'll have a forehead-slapping moment when I realise what I've forgotten

not to be a dork but:
"Each ballot can be up to 25 votes, all weighted, with normal rules applying."
so every vote is not equal? what's the total number of points to be weighed out?

Voted. Way too pretentious, but didn't have time to catch up on all the 'must-sees'. Also, forgot Iron Man 3. But that would probably just have made the list even more ass-hole-ish.

sent a top ten

you people

you will need to vote morbs to offset my heavy dumont weighting

should each pick a Worst

I can't even do a top 10 -- only seen nine 2013 films so far, and one of those was so bad I wouldn't even put it on a ranked list of everything.

sent a top ten

― Ward Fowler, Friday, February 28, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

We probably have the same no.1 :)

gd work!

Stinkers I saw in 2013: Texas Chainsaw 3D, Hitchcock, Evil Dead, The Place Beyond the Pines, Man of Steel, World War Z, The Conjuring, We're the Millers and, saving the worst for last, Now you See Me.

i only saw like 6 films this year so i voted for them

^ILX's Joe Cineaste

i should clarify, i only saw like 6 films FROM this year. i saw a lot more than 6 but they were mostly french flicks from the late 50s early 60s. i can't resist voting in a poll tho.

good stuff! Morbs plz vote, I feel we could break the 15 vote barrier tonight.

Morbs did you not have to make a list for a site?

also 14 ballots in so far

no, I bowed out of that the last 2 years due to doctors etc, and two weeks ago I quit film criticism. So I'm one of you again.

Blue Jasmine should be hands down worst film.

no, if you only knew

Stories We Tell and Enough Said both worse than Jasmine.

you guys know they released a sequel to grown ups last year right?

Each ballot can be up to 25 votes, all weighted, with normal rules applying

ie, you're counting Mordy's votes less?

I think we're talking about worst films seen by people who have lives and/or pubic hair

no, I bowed out of that the last 2 years due to doctors etc, and two weeks ago I quit film criticism. So I'm one of you again.

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 28, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not one of us until you submit a ballot I'm afraid.

Stories We Tell and Enough Said both worse than Jasmine.

― Eric

ooh! Can't wait!

voted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYnGAZl3pjs

I mean that in a good, votes-are-coming-in way.

That's mine in too.

i submitted one as well. there were five to ten things i still haven't gotten around to seeing that i had anticipated placing, so i'm a little unhappy with my ballot but whatevs that's life

Late surge! Get your ballots in this might actually be interesting!

Sent a top 12.

Ranked the 8 I've seen that I'm willing to give points to and sent it in.

Oh Just realised this ended last night but I'm extending it through Sunday night if anyone else fancies a go.

Now it's dawned on me that tomorrow is the Academy Awards so if people want I can accept ballots until say noon (EST) tomorrow and roll out the results in the afternoon? Am aware of weekend drop in ILXing so if that's a problem I can hold off.

thanks!

Yeah, that sounds great. Thanks for doing this!

ok got my ballot in

Final Bump. voting closes in 8 hours and 48 minutes.

Cool there was a late surge: 25-ish ballots should make for a reasonable countdown and thread.

submitted a short ballot - was limited by what i had seen (and some of the stuff i did see was either shit or merely unremarkable). but there were a couple of films i really loved last year.

Last call.

Anyone have a preference for roll out? I just found out i don't have to go into work tomorrow so I can do it either then or today.

dealer's choice

Don't do it during the Oscars dude.

I was hoping to get it rolled out before the Oscars started but I can hold off until tomorrow.

A quick pre-oscar rollout wld be cool.

^

^^

^^^

Alright let's do this here since it's a pretty short thread anyway. If a mod wants to add "WITH RESULTS" then I won't complain.

27 ballots. 173 films were voted for. I'm gonna go ahead and do a Top 40. Should be done well before the Oscars (knock on wood).

40. Hors Satan - 80 pts. 2 votes. 2 #1

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x460q90/542/lyjg.jpg

:-)

39. Blancanieves - 81 pts. 3 votes

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x450q90/845/l81q.jpg

Goofed on the images for this upcoming tie.

Could you save the top 20 for tomorrow? don't know its p/quiet for a top 40...but you're doing it so its yr call.

(Tie) 37. The Great Beauty - 86 pts 4 votes

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I can save it for tomorrow if it doesn't pick up by the time I get closer to 20.

Crap, that is a lot of points it takes to place... Cool start, though, even though I haven't seen the first two films. They are on my to-do list. Great Beauty is awesome, and that scene the picture is from is an undermentioned gem!

I actually screengrabbed the whole frame but my image editing skills are terrible and I goofed. I'm not a big fan of that film but some of it is stunning.

All of it, really.

Btw it seems like a lot of points but I was using a formula from a music poll that had up to 40 possible choices so 1st place votes get 40, 2nd 38, etc etc

Again, goofed on the tie. This should be 37 as well.

(Tie) 37. Berberian Sound Studio - 86 pts. 5 votes

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Oh, I had that down as 2012. Would have voted for it if I'd realized it was eligible.

glad I voted if only to get blancanieves in, love that film

never got round to the other 3, I somehow thought berberian sound studio was from before last year for some reason

Would've voted for it if I realised it was eligible too but almost feels older than 2 years ago never mind one.

I think your images look really good. As I posted at the time, Berberian intrigued me for a while, then it just seemed to wander off.

I guess it came out in 2012 in UK? It had a festival showing at CPHPIX13, couldn't make it.

It came out in the UK in 2012 and the US in 2013. Apologies for the initial post by the way. We eventually decided (I guess it was never modified) that whatever you wanted was eligible.

36. Lore - 88 pts. 4 votes

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x450q90/833/zaz9.jpg

35. An Oversimplification of Her Beauty - 93 pts. 4 votes

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x331q90/37/qn3v.jpg

Glad to see Lore place.

parts of lore have an almost fairytale quality, with the kids on this long journey through all these strange landscapes & haunted houses, it's a good way to give a sense of how unreal the post-war clusterfuck must have felt (and the self-deception of a lot of germans)

re berberian, that's fair enough & it should be in (year of impact), I was just wondering

oversimplification never got a screening here, that screenshot has me v intrigued!

oversimplification opens in the UK very shortly

oh nice

I had a disagreement over the ending of Oversimplification with a friend last week. I thought the last bit (the conclusion he comes to, I suppose) was really funny but my friend was raging.

Another tie and yet another numbering goof coming up.

(Tie) 33. Stoker - 95 pts. 4 votes

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(Tie)33. Pacific Rim - 95 pts. 4 votes

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x450q90/839/u05k.jpg

32. Something in the Air - 104 pts. 4 votes

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x450q90/62/fh1v.jpg

none of these images are working for me? pretty sure the https is to blame but idk.

crap. anyone else having problems?

working fine for me

something in the air another one of my votes, I'm a sucker for coming-of-age type stuff I have to say plus I'm obv v interested in that moment but this felt as much about assayas kind of looking wryly but fondly at his young mixed-up self (idk if that's the case, I haven't bothered to find out any real biographical information but I think I remember reading something like that & anyway that's how it feels so who cares if it's true)

31. Like Someone in Love - 105 pts. 4 votes

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What can I do about the https thing? I'm just uploading to imageshack and using the "copy url" right-click.

images are working now, guess something just crapped out on my end.

never got around to pacific rim but my friend who is a huge snob and never goes to see blockbuster movies loved it, which I find funny - that "arthouse power rangers" managed to sway him

I loved bits, hated other bits.

30. Gimme the Loot - 107 pts. 3 votes 2#1

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29. Behind the Candelabra - 108 pts. 6 votes

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Another tie and yet another image misnumber.

(Tie) 27. This is Martin Bonner - 109 pts. 5 votes

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(Tie) 27. A Touch of Sin - 109 pts. 4 votes 1 #1

https://imageshack.com/a/img577/4954/8ymo.jpg

thought that might be higher

I still haven't seen it and it was high on my list of things I felt I should have.

I don't think i've even heard of this is martin bonner. Also I really really need to watch touch of sin eh

this will be my last such scintillating update, cause I need to go to bed. Look forward to reading the rest of the results tomorrow, hopefully with a bit more action itt

26. Captain Phillips - 112 pts. 5 votes

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x264q90/21/u1hc.jpg

wins: I'll do the top 20 tomorrow as I'm apparently gonna be snowed in anyway and there might be more people around.

re: berberian sound studio. I voted for it even though I saw it in 2012. Ditto Sightseers, as I saw it had a US release in 2013.

25. Nebraska - 120 pts. 5 votes

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A Touch of Sin will be at PIX, so I will get to see it in aprox. a month! I fully expect it to be much better than a lot of what was on my list.

24. American Hustle - 122 pts. 7 votes

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23. To the Wonder - 127 pts. 5 votes 1 #1

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22. Mud - 140 pts. 7 votes

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ok i might have to watch mud because of that screenshot ^^

oversimplification opens in the UK very shortly

It opened a couple of weeks ago at some Picturehouse cinemas, but weirdly there were no central London screenings. Maybe this was a weird "platform release" and it will eventually show up there too.

considering the importance of his shirt in that movie I'm not sure why I went for that one.

xpost

alright, last one for today.

Gimme The Money the only one I've not heard of so far. I skipped Something In The Air because of mediocre reviews. Will try to catch up with it now.

21. Bastards - 143 pts. 7 votes

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Gimme The Loot, sorry!

Top 20 tomorrow. Btw thanks to everyone who voted. It's turned out a bit better than I thought it would even a week ago.

Saw Bastards the other night and it was one of those films that became much more interesting after I'd read some stuff about it afterwards (Clare Denis interview in Cahiers Du Cinema, esp).

Thanks Gukbe!

Oh, now I've looked up Gimme The Loot I do know about it, just forgot that was what it was called.

Surprised at Bastards getting such a high placing, might be due to VOD-availability. Does this mean Only God Forgives will make it tomorrow?

Also, way too many Amerian movies 21-30. Don't hope it's a sign of what's to come tomorrow.

Is there an english translation of Cahiers?

never been a huge tindersticks fan but their soundtrack to bastards is amazing

Less VOD-ability than Claire Denis' place in the current cinephile canon, I imagine. Though yes, ease of access might have helped. Can't imagine anyone stumbling upon it and deciding to watch it if they didn't like Denis.

Re: the Sky coverage. God, I hate Boyd Hilton so irrationally right now.

Sorry, that was meant for Oscars thread.

I may have overrated bastards cause I only just saw it at the cinema the other day, it reminded me of really downbeat 70s thrillers

gtf with oscar talk >:-|

thought id been p comprehensive on my ballot but forgot abt bastards

also my top 3 have all already placed (loot, bonner, mud)

None of my top three is going to place, and it's all your fault, you american savages!

Savages!

It opened a couple of weeks ago at some Picturehouse cinemas, but weirdly there were no central London screenings. Maybe this was a weird "platform release" and it will eventually show up there too.

Ahh right, it was reviewed in Sight and Sound this month, and I think it's on up here at the Glasgow Film Theatre in March (An Oversimplification of Her Beauty, that is.)

Did I miss UK releases for Lore, Gimmie the Loot or This is Martin Bonner?

y for lore definitely

Oversimplification didn't play here yet for sure, I really hope it comes but picturehouse seem to have slightly lost interest in the Cambridge cinema recently

Yeah, Lore and Gimme The Loot both opened in the first half of the year. This Is Martin Bonner never made it beyond the EFF.

When Oversimplification had those Picturehouse screenings they made a point of it being available for download on iTunes at the same time.

Savages!

Haha! Still 20 slots to fill and they can't all be Wolf of Wall Street.

Gonna do the top 20 shortly, in case anyone thought I had forgotten (full admission I had forgotten until just now)

Bastards a lot better in retrospect; at the time I thought it was well-directed nonsense

trust yr first instinct

Much better than well-directed nonsense, but maybe not as good as Uhlich's take.

20. All is Lost - 149 pts. 7 votes 1 #1

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so you're the six others who saw it

btw I just googled thread quote and threw up a little

I liked All is Lost but it just missed out on my ballot.

P&G ranking above Lost will titillate me just a little bit.

BTW, thank you much for saving part of the unveil for today while I'm at work.

19. Museum Hours - 150 pts. 6 votes

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cover up your titillates outta self-respect xp

btw Alfred I didn't see your ballot until a few minutes ago so it's not been counted. Would've made a difference in the next 10 for sure as the point margins are pretty small.

tear this poll in half then

All is Lost made Captain Phillips look particularly bad.

18. Her - 152 pts. 7 votes 1 #1

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P&G ranking above Her will titillate me just a little bit.

That movie even getting in the top 40 on this board is a victory.

Can't wait for the collective nipple-tweak fest that's about to happen when P&G upsets Wolf for #1.

17. Post Tenebras Lux - 163 pts. 6 votes 1 #1

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The last movie I watched in 2013. It felt like the last movie, period.

Yay! Reygadas' best, imo.

Parts of it are his best, def.

Hate to repeat what was the party line last year, but the first 10 minutes of this one as a standalone film would've been my #1 easily.

Yeah it was very frustrating for me because of the unevenness. A clutch of images that will never leave me, though.

16. Beyond the Hills - 169 pts. 7 votes

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Hooray for Post Tenebras. Too low, though.

I was sitting on Beyond the Hills for about 10 months before I finally got around to watching it.

Last April BTH felt punishing but it lingered, particularly the quiet mist-suffused moments of nutty nuns at work.

some people thought it was heavyhanded. no, but fundamentalism is.

I can see that argument but I'm pretty lenient with "patriarchy everywhere!" films

Also just got around to watching it recently. Only one showing in CPH, at MIX, the gay and lesbian film festival, and I couldn't make it. It's good, but not as good as 4 Months etc.

Don't think it was particularly heavy-handed. I think there was an understanding that these nutjobs were forced/allowed to take over by the dysfuntional society in general, it wasn't just a polemic against religion.

15. Computer Chess - 171 pts. 8 votes

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apparently Kevin JB's favorite

Guess between Richard Brody and Amy Taubin everything to say about Computer Chess has been said.

14. A Field in England - 177 pts. 6 votes 1 #1

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Haven't seen this one, but I suffered through Sightseers.

A Field in England did not open in US theaters til Feb 2014, hence ineligible

Yeah I didn't even consider it an option. The power of the Brits Bloc.

ohh great, the apocalptic pub crawl will prob be #7

13. Room 237 - 194 pts. 6 votes. 2 #1

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^^Enjoyed this one well enough but didn't get much out of it beyond "lol people with theories" and maybe by extension an amusing thinkpiece about the silliness of film criticism.

eligibility rules were changed because other countries exist, dr crankenstein

A Field in England was a simultaneous cinema/TV/VOD release over here so it wouldn't really be "cheating" if you watched by another means

unlike the other ILXor film in the poll, Room 237 does not feature Alan Watts

Not in America they don't, winspaws

haha tru

still some of this stuff hasn't been released here yet as discussed above, it's only fair

two ties in a row coming up

11. Upstream Color - 203 pts. 10 votes

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Field in Eng-er-land was my top pick, btw. Surprised to see it make the top 20 though. Dismayed at Room 237 all over.

A Field in England did not open in US theaters til Feb 2014

Whoops. I meant to stick to the US theatrical rule, but that one slipped by. US Amazon Instant viewer here, by the way.

(Tie) 11. Blue is the Warmest Color - 203 pts. 9 votes

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Ok gonna take a lunch break. Top 10 coming up in a bit.

Rom 237 was so amateurish in execution and conclusions that it stymied me – I couldn't think of a damn thing to write except that.

well, the theorists are... amateurs!

Do today's numbers include Alfred's ballot?

Oops. Forgot to vote for Beyond The Hills. Glad to see Computer Chess and Museum Hours relatively high. Am giving up on Prince Avalanche making the cut, you savages.

No, they don't. I had already tabulated the results and it didn't seem fair to change the top 20 but not the bottom.

it wasn't just a polemic against religion.

Yeah, the doctor was a bit of a dick too.

xp as a longtime david gordon green fan who has been pretty appalled by his post kenny powers phase, i would be interested in why you would rep for prince avalanche. i watched it and though it had some high points (lady rummaging around in the burned down house), it felt imminently disposable to me

I enjoyed the ambiguous tone of the whole film: if not quite dreamlike, it had a semi-detached relationship with reality. Partly that was the landscape they were in (and I enjoyed the occasional Malick-like closeups of it) but also you had the guy in the truck, whose appearances seemed increasingly like figments of their imagination, and then there was his peculiar link-up with the woman from the burned-down house.

I also loved the interplay between Rudd and Hirsch: the whole thing just cracked me up so many times: they were like a couple of kids, with Rudd as the older brother who acts as if he's all wise and grown-up. That bit where they were just chasing each other through the wood, they even ran like they were under 10.

The whole thing just felt magical to me. I left the cinema so happy.

Alright, let's finish this up. Top 10 begins with (the final) tie.

(Tie) 9. 12 Years a Slave - 211 pts. 9 votes

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Never heard of it.

it wasn't just a polemic against religion.

Yeah, the doctor was a bit of a dick too.

― Alba, 3. marts 2014 20:26 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Excatly! Also, the police were dicks as well. The stuff about their past at the orphanage was sorta devastating as well.

Room 237 was so amateurish in execution

Really? Complete opposite for me--not ever seeing the interviewees, just hearing them, was a great aesthetic choice, the first of many.

- Gotta see Museum Hours, it sounds like a filmed version of Thomas Bernhard's Old Masters, one of my favourite novels.

- Is a A field in England similar to Winstanley? From that screenshot..

I think A Field in England is a trippy psychadelic ride through a field during the Civil War from the guy that made Sightseers and Kill List.

So that's a no then.

My list had 12YaS at 16th, btw.

(Tie) 9. Leviathan - 211 pts. 8 votes

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nice

pleased to see that so high.

On the documentary stakes Act of Killing is going to be higher isn't it? *sigh*

Tone of A Field In England is very different to Sightseers and all but the very end of Kill List. It's the one film on this list so far that I saw on TV rather than in the cinema, and I regret that.

I really expected to like Leviathan, but that awful B-word hit me, sadly.

My ballot would have been longer if I'd put more 2012 entries in it. Berberian, Room 237, the Big Star doc.

:/

8. The Wolf of Wall Street - 219 pts. 8 votes 1 #1

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ah, those two oppressive whales outta the way.

re Leviathan, once I had accepted the B-word as part of the deal I enjoyed it a lot more.

B-word?

boring?

Yes, sorry. Feels like a word that should be banned from film criticism.

Loving the stills choices, btw, Gukbe.

that awful B-word hit me, sadly

Don't let your bitch hit you like that.

I'm shocked Wolf is that low.

Yeah – I never really read the WOWS thread, but I had the impression it was a big ILE fave.

glad zany scorsese bullshit isn't at the top

spring breakers to win, calling it now

My friend was really psyched for Leviathan (he thought it was a straight up documentary about the NE Fishing industry) but he was quite bored. I was entranced.

I'd rather fish than watch a straight-up fishing doc.

7. Enough Said - 230 pts. 9 votes

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I'd rather fish for straight men.

It was an "experiential" film of an experience and milieu I find unpleasant. Hence not in any way beautiful, just GET ME TO THE DOCK. xxxp

fishing doc has offscreen cameo at least!

nice enough Said, but really? high-end TV dramedy. JL-D's subterfuge went on for too long with not enough reason.

didn't see

I'm surprised it's that high but I did love it. I think the sit-commy aspects of the screenplay were part of what make it so good.

Top 10 is bluddy RUBBISH so far - why didn't I vote for Blue is the Warmest Colour I am stupid.

reminds me of what Kael wrote about The Last Picture Show: ES is the best sitcom ever written.

God no

So I won't be seeing Enough Said then.

It's only going to be American films in the top ten, right?

6. Before Midnight - 257 pts. 11 votes

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we all wanna give Morbs a few minutes to let it out?

i haven't seen any of the midnight movies bc i find hawkes face to be unwatchable

He looked very chimplike in the last one but I didn't notice it so much this time around.

30 minute or so break then I'll be back for the top 5.

Man, Enough Said could've landed the #1 slot had Alfred's ballot been counted.

would it? It wasn't my #1.

ES is the best sitcom ever written

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and here comes fraud

Well that didn't take as long as I thought. Let's press on!

5. Spring Breakers - 302 pts. 11 votes. 2 #1

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too low

Fiiiiith plaaaace forevvvvvvvah.

Thought this poll was great up until the top ten - diverse, different from other end-of-year lists I've seen. So Enough Said/Before Midnight has come like a punch to the gut.

4. The Act of Killing - 311 pts. 10 votes 3 #1

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there was never a moment of doubt that they would make it

see now ugh The Act of Killing.

Did Enough Said make a lot of Top 10 lists? xposts

I'm going to claim that one as a Danish production.

Yay, a foreign film in the top 10!

Saw it last saturday, it's pretty good. Not like, the fourth best film of the year, or in any way the best/scariest documentary (Wang Bing, you savages!) but good!

It was my number 1.

Act of Killing is more of a number 9 movie than a number 4 movie

XPOST
Fair point, I'm sure you are right abt Enough Said's uniquely high placing in the ILX 2013 Film List.

I don't know maybe it did place highly elsewhere. I was asking!

Is Leviathan a US film? (xp to Frederik)

xxp a Revolution number 9 movie.

act of killing was my #1

Leviathan's directors are British and Swiss, but they work out of Harvard I think.

3. Inside Llewyn Davis - 340 pts. 14 votes

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expected that to be #1 here

Is Leviathan a US film? (xp to Frederik)

― Cherish, 3. marts 2014 22:35 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Leviathan is an American production, afaik. Contrarily, Joshua Oppenheimer is American, but it's a Danish-British-Norwegian co-production, with the Danish studio as the main backer. Again, afaik. Also, neither Steve McQueen nor Alfonso Cuaron (whom I'm guessing will place) is American, right?

McQueen is a Brit and Cuaron is Mexican.

Off-topic, but was Cuaron the first hispanic to win an Oscar, btw?

A Directing Oscar, I mean.

Yes.

firsr to win Best Director. There have been three previous nominees

2. Gravity - 370 pts. 16 votes. #1

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Yeeeeeeesssssss, Pain & Gain!!!!!!!

Congrats to the Philomena voting bloc

1. Frances Ha - 395 pts. 15 votes. 3 #1

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ha indeed

yeah i genuinely lolled when i saw this was number one - and i voted for it

thanks for doing this gukbe

haha

I've got a massive crush on Frances' roommate.

benji sophie or liev?

i watched this last night and it was my number one. I really like the paris screenshot.

Gasp. Totally forgot about this poll. :(

Lev

So, uhm, how about individual ballots? Are people going to post them or what? Different thread?

1. Something in the Air
2. Stories We Tell
3. Museum Hours
4. Enough Said
5. Beyond The Hills
6. Frances Ha
7. The Spectacular Now
8. Like Someone in Love
9. Blue is the Warmest Color
10. The Bling Ring

Runners-Up:

Mud
Her
I’m So Excited
Much Ado About Nothing
In a World
Gravity
What Maisie Knew
12 Years a Slave
Barbara

http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/best-films-of-2013/

Gukbe thanks for doing it despite the fuck awful top 10.

Yeah, many thanks for doing this Gukbe! This was amazing, and could be the start of a great tradition. It would also give a reason to punk people to see the best non-indie features of the year.

I'll post the full list at some point (ugh formatting) but for you, Frederik:

41. Only God Forgives - 79 pts. 4 votes.

Missed the top 40 by 1 point.

And for what everyone else is dying for:

(Tie) 118. Pain & Gain - 23 pts. 1 vote

Haha, great! Oh well, I'd probably have preferred the Dumont if I'd seen it.

1. Gravity
2. Wolf of Wall St.
3. Iron Man 3
4. Behind the Candelabra
5. Captain Phillips
6. Upstream Color
7. American Hustle
8. Thor: The Dark World

If I'd included the 2012 films that slopped over into 2013, it would have been

1. Gravity
2. Wolf of Wall St.
3. Iron Man 3
4. Behind the Candelabra
5. Berberian Sound Studio
6. Captain Phillips
7. Upstream Color
8. American Hustle
9. Big Star: Nothing Can Hurt Me
10. Room 237
11. Thor: The Dark World

1. Hors Satan
2. Camille Claudel 1915
3. Like Someone in Love
4. Post Tenebras Lux
5. Beyond the Hills
6. Something in the Air
7. Blue is the Warmest Colour
8. The Stuart Hall Project
9. Frances Ha
10. To the Wonder

the moment i know u were all waiting for, my ballot:

1. Spring Breakers
2. Room 237
3. This Is the End
4. The Heat
5. Hunger Games: Catching Fire
6. Pacific Rim

Pacific Rim is the 2013 film I saw but refused to give any points to.

1. The Act of Killing
2. Frances Ha
3. After Tiller
4. The Wolf of Wall Street
5. Captain Phillips
6. Spring Breakers
7. Post Tenebras Lux
8. Her
9. 12 Years a Slave
10. Mud

Hors Satan (Bruno Dumont)
Beyond the Hills (Christian Mungui)
Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami)
The Patience Stone (Atiq Rahimi)
The Missing Picture (Rithy Panh)
Much Ado About Nothing (Joss Whedon)
Something in the Air (Olivier Assayas)
I Wish (Hirokazu Koreeda)
Before Midnight (Richard Linklater)
The Great Beauty (Paolo Sorrentino)
Fill the Void (Rama Burshtein)

1. Closed Curtain (Panahi)
2. Til Madness Do Us Part (Wang Bing)
3. Harmony Lessons (Baigazin)
4. The Grandmaster (Wong)
5. Leviathan (Castain Taylor & Paravel)
6. Post Tenebras Lux (Reygadas)
7. Night (Brzezicki)
8. To the Wonder (Malick)
9. Blue is the Warmest Color (Kechice)
10. The Great Beauty (Sorrentino)
11. Manakamana (Spray & Velez)
12. Only God Forgives (Winding Refn)
13. Like Someone In Love (Kiarostami)
14. Computer Chess (Bujalski)
15. Before Midnight (Linklater)
16. Strange Little Cat (Zürcher)
17. Drug War (To)
18. Gravity (Cuaron)
19. Night Across the Street (Ruiz)
20. The Missing Picture (Panh)
21. Beyond the Hills (Mungiu)
22. Upstream Color (Carruth)
23. Les Salouds (Denis)
24. Spring Breakers (Korine)
25. Faust (Sokurov)

I really went nuts with that release-date thing. As I've already said, I think, I saw Faust early 2012. But then again, it didn't have a shot in hell, so, yeah. I thought Grandmaster, Only God Forgives, No and Drug War stood a chance, but nope.

But Faust was the only one I saw in 2012.

incomplete

When I said earlier in the thread I would only include stuff I saw in 2013 I didn't entirely keep to it as I saw The Missing Picture about a fortnight into 2014. Never thought it would make it in any lists etc. and found it really great so..xp

Thanks, Gukbe--glad you didn't abandon this. Now that there's been one, I'm sure more people will vote next year (you ended up with a pretty good number of ballots anyway).

Surprised by the #1--I was thinking Llewyn Davis--but happy it wasn't Wolf of Wall Street, which I thought was another possibility. And again, thought the stills looked great.

1. Room 237
2. Nothing Can Hurt Me
3. At Berkeley
4. Enough Said
5. I Am Divine
6. Nebraska
7. Frances Ha
8. Her
9. Good Ol’ Freda
10. Our Nixon
11. Everybody Street
12. Gore Vidal: The United States of Amnesia
13. Fruitvale Station
14. American Hustle
15. Inside Llewyn Davis
16. The Trials of Muhammad Ali
17. Continental
18. Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation
19. Blue Is the Warmest Color
20. Mud
21. Scatter My Ashes at Bergdorf's
22. Ginger and Rosa
23. Anita
24. History of the Eagles
25. Side Effects

is History of the Eagles about the band the Eagles

My ballot is a bit 2012/2013 UK/US releases

1. Frances Ha
2. Stranger By The Lake
3. 12 Years A Slave
4. Before Midnight
5. In The House
6. The Heat
7. No
8. Captain Phillips
9. Le Week-end
10. The Paperboy
11. Sightseers
12. Cutie and the Boxer
13. Good Vibrations
14. Blue Jasmine
15. The Bling Ring
16. The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
17. Gravity
18. Philomena
19. Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa
20. Frozen
21. Behind The Candelabra
22. Stoker
23. Berberian Sound Studio
24. American Hustle
25. The Way, Way Back

None of this have made it to UK cinemas? But stuff I'll look to see in 2014.

1. Closed Curtain (Panahi)
2. Til Madness Do Us Part (Wang Bing)
3. Harmony Lessons (Baigazin)
4. The Grandmaster (Wong)
7. Night (Brzezicki)
11. Manakamana (Spray & Velez)
16. Strange Little Cat (Zürcher)
17. Drug War (To)
25. Faust (Sokurov)

(xxpost) Yes--it's in 3D, and Frey and Henley and the rest come flying out the screen right at you.

is History of the Eagles about the band the Eagles

― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), M

DON: Well, yeah

THE EAGLES 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE

Frederik: Faust was number 50 with 57 pts and 3 votes. It was higher than No, Drug War, and Grandmaster.

Full list:

Frances Ha 395 15
Gravity 370 16
Inside Llewyn Davis 340 14
The Act of Killing 311 10
Spring Breakers 302 11
Before Midnight 257 11
Enough Said 230 9
The Wolf of Wall Street 219 8
12 Years a Slave 211 9
Leviathan 211 8
Blue is the Warmest Color 203 9
Upstream color 203 10
Room 237 194 6
A Field in England 177 6
Computer Chess 171 8
Beyond the Hills 169 7
Post Tenebras Lux 163 6
Her 152 7
Museum Hours 150 6
All is Lost 149 7
Bastards 143 7
Mud 140 7
To the Wonder 127 5
American Hustle 122 7
Nebraska 120 5
Captain Phillips 112 5
A Touch of Sin 109 4
This is Martin Bonner 109 5
Behind the Candelabra 108 6
Gimme the Loot 107 3
Like Someone in Love 105 4
Something in the Air 104 4
Pacific Rim 95 4
Stoker 95 4
An Oversimplification of Her Beauty 93 4
Lore 88 4
Berberian Sound Studio 86 5
The Great Beauty 86 4
Blancanieves 81 3
Hors Satan 80 2
Only God Forgives 79 4
The Past 77 4
Camille Claudel 1915 72 2
Side Effects 71 5
In the House 70 4
The Selfish Giant 66 3
The Missing Picture 65 3
The Hunt 63 3
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 62 3
Faust 57 3
The Heat 56 2
Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa 54 4
The Place Beyond the Pines 53 3
After Tiller 51 2
The Last Time I Saw Macao 51 2
At Berkeley 49 2
56 Up 48 2
Our Nixon 48 2
Le Week-End 47 2
Prince Avalanche 46 2
Frozen 45 2
Iron Man 3 44 2
What Maisie Knew 43 3
The Grandmaster 42 2
Concussion 41 2
Closed Curtain 40 1
Drug War 40 2
Pavilion 40 1
The Unspeakable Act 40 1
Sunshine on Leith 39 2
The Lone Ranger 39 3
The Square 39 2
I Am Divine 38 2
Nothing Can Hurt Me 36 1
Stranger by the Lake 36 1
The Gardener 36 1
Til Madness Do Us Part 36 1
20 Feet from Stardom 35 2
Sightseers 35 2
The World's End 34 2
Cutie and the Boxer 33 2
Django Unchained 33 1
Harmony Lessons 33 1
In a World 33 2
Philomena 33 2
Prisoners 33 1
Stories We Tell 33 1
This is the End 33 1
Fruitvale Station 32 2
Laurence Anyways 31 2
Birth Story: Ina May Gaskin 30 1
Philip Roth: Umasked 30 1
The Patience Stone 30 1
Good Vibrations 29 2
Lincoln 28 1
Seduced and Abandoned 28 1
The Bling Ring 28 2
The Counselor 28 1
From Up on Poppy Hill 26 2
Gloria 26 1
Let the Fire Burn 26 1
Much Ado About Nothing 26 1
The Canyons 26 1
Is The Man Who is Tall Happy? 25 1
Night 25 1
No 25 1
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty 25 1
Two Guns 25 1
What Richard Did 25 1
I Wish 24 1
It's a Disaster 24 8
Magic Magic 24 1
Simon Killer 24 1
The Spectacular Now 24 1
The Stuart Hall Project 24 1
Thor: The Dark World 24 1
Good Ol' Freda 23 1
Pain and Gain 23 1
Portrait of Jason 22 1
The Paperboy 22 1
About Time 21 1
At Any Price 21 1
Everybody Street 21 1
Fill the Void 21 1
Jeune & Jolie 21 1
Manakamana 21 1
Passion 21 1
Cousin Jules 20 1
Gore Vidal: The United States of Amnesia 20 1
Lone Survivor 20 1
Best Kept Secret 19 1
Blue Jasmine 18 1
Dallas Buyer's Club 18 1
Ginger and Rosa 18 2
Man of Tai Chi 18 1
Mister John 18 1
All the Light in the Sky 17 1
The Kings of Summer 17 1
Viola 17 1
Hannah Arendt 16 1
Short Term 12 16 1
Strange Little Cat 16 1
The Trials of Muhammad Ali 16 1
Byzantium 15 2
Continental 15 1
Rush 15 1
You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet 15 1
You're Next 15 1
Bad Grandpa 14 1
Greenwich Village 14 1
I Used to be Darker 14 1
Zero Dark Thirty 14 1
Night Across the sTreet 13 1
The Great Gatsby 13 1
The Wolverine 13 1
Happy People 12 1
Wadjda 12 1
C.O.G. 11 1
Scatter My Ashes at Bergdorf's 11 1
Kid Thing 10 1
The Lords of Salem 10 1
The Wind Rises 10 1
A Band Called Death 9 1
Anita 9 1
History of the Eagles 8 1
Top Gun 3D 8 1
Fast & Furious 6 7 1
I'm So Excited 7 1
Olympus Has Fallen 7 1
Resolution 7 1
The Look of Love 7 1
The Way, Way Back 7 1
White House Down 7 1

Shit. Sent that before I could format it (or, put spaces between things). First number is pts, Second is no. of votes.

I've seen 29 of the top 40. The ones I've missed are: Berberian Sound Studio, Lore, An Oversimplification Of Her Beauty, Pacific Rim, Something In The Air, Like Someone In Love, Gimme The Loot, This Is Martin Bonner, A Touch Of Sin, Post Tenebras Lux and Room 237.

Here's my ballot:

1. the act of killing
2 prince avalanche
3. enough said
4. blancanieves
5. computer chess
6. frances ha
7. what richard did
8. le week-end
9. spring breakers
10. the great beauty
11. gravity
12. museum hours
13. mister john
14. in the house
15. the place beyond the pines
16. blue is the warmest colour
17. the selfish giant
18. in a world …
19. before midnight
20. only god forgives
21. what maisie knew
22. sunshine on leith
23. all is lost

No other fucker voted for What Richard Did?

what'd he do?

None of this have made it to UK cinemas? But stuff I'll look to see in 2014.

1. Closed Curtain (Panahi)
2. Til Madness Do Us Part (Wang Bing)
3. Harmony Lessons (Baigazin)
4. The Grandmaster (Wong)
7. Night (Brzezicki)
11. Manakamana (Spray & Velez)
16. Strange Little Cat (Zürcher)
17. Drug War (To)
25. Faust (Sokurov)

― xyzzzz__, 4. marts 2014 00:38 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think some of it is avaible in VOD and stuff. Also, I think Wang Bing's West of the Tracks is showing at the AVFestival somewhere in the UK these days, or so my twitter-feed told me. Would really love to see it, Til Madness Do Us Part is the only of his I've seen.

1 - Gimme the Loot
2 - This is Martin Bonner
3 - Mud
4 - Philip Roth: Unmasked
5 - Seduced and Abandoned
6 - Upstream Color
7 - Side Effects
8- Simon Killer
9 - Frances Ha
10 - Beyond the Hills
11 - At Any Price
12 - Nebraska
13 - American Hustle
14 - All is Lost
15 - All the Light in the Sky
16 - The Wolf of Wall Street
17 - What Maise Knew
18 - Inside Llewyn Davis
19 - Behind the Candalabra

forgot - computer chess/bastards; prob half dozen or so contenders that ive not seen

Oh, wait, that wasn't my final ballot – I re-sent it with Inside Llewyn Davis at no.13 and everything else shunted down one.

what'd he do?

Well, that'd be a bit of a spoiler. Looks like What Richard Did never got a proper release in the US. Shame - it's a remarkable film from the guy whose next film will get rather more attention, what with it starring Michael Fassbender as Frank Sidebottom.

I thought about voting for it but I saw it two years ago

I think I had eight or nine where I was the only vote. The only one that surprises me is Nothing Can Hurt Me. Conversely, I'm surprised that Our Nixon and I Am Divine both got a second vote. After I sent in my ballot, I remembered slocki's The Fruit Hunters, which I thought was 2012 but is listed as Jan. 4, 2013 (American release) on IMDB. I probably would have put that somewhere in the 15-20 range.

My ballot:

1. Act of Killing
2. Inside Llewyn Davis
3. Before Midnight
4. 12 Years a Slave
5. Leviathan
6. The World's End
7. Drug War
8. Bastards
9. Museum Hours
10. Beyond the Hills
11. Spring Breakers
12. Like Someone in Love
13. To the Wonder
14. Computer Chess
15. Enough Said
16. Wolf of Wall Street
17. The Lone Ranger
18. Upstream Color
19. Frances Ha
20. Her
21. All is Lost (I forgot I voted for it!)
22. The Wind Rises
23. This is Martin Bonner
24. The Past
25. Byzantium

What Richard Did got a VOD release last summer. I almost watched it based on your raves, Alba. But I didn't.

I thought about voting for it but I saw it two years ago

This won't stop me voting for We Are The Best in next year's poll. Might as well vote outside of festival years, I think.

I liked What Richard did a good deal, it was probably my number 26. But ultimately I thought About Elly covered similar ground but much better.

Good work. Fairly chuffed, if not surprised, at Frances Ha - and not Spring Breakers - being ilx's #1 film of 2013ish.

01. A Field in England
02. Stoker
03. Django Unchained
04. Pacific Rim
05. Lincoln
06. Gravity
07. Lore
08. Magic Magic
09. Mud
10. Frances Ha
11. Captain Phillips
12. Bastards
13. Before Midnight
14. The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
15. Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa
16. Blue is the Warmest Color
17. You're Next
18. Zero Dark Thirty
19. The Great Gatsby
20. Only God Forgives
21. The Lone Ranger
22. Side Effects
23. Laurence Anyways
24. Byzantium
25. Fast & Furious 6

I think Closed Curtain will actually get a lot of play when it's properly released and people can see it. That's why I initially went for a stricter set of rules but letting it go free and easy worked out just fine.

Also why was I the only one to vote for Stranger By the Lake?!

Didn't get a US release until a few weeks ago.

It only came out in the UK a couple of weeks ago too.

I'll definitely be voting for it next year.

Didn't get a UK release until a few weeks ago either. I've actually been sitting on a copy since December but in my rush to catch up with 2013 films I didn't watch it. It's coming to the cinema here next week so I'm hopefully gonna catch it then.

I think that only opened here a week or two ago.

I mean, I'd seen it in time for the year's poll, but knew that most people wouldn't be voting for it this year, so it would have seemed a wasted vote.

On Closed Curtain: Has it even been picked up? And do you know where I could check stuff like that?

I don't think it does yet, but I'd be shocked if it didn't have some kind of release by years end.

New Wave Films looks like it might be giving it belated distribution. This page says "Spring 2014".

http://www.newwavefilms.co.uk/view-film-detail.html?viewListing=OTU=

Cool! But that's UK, right?

Oh yes, sorry.

They'll also release Norte, which might be at the top of my wish-list at the moment. Hopefully at PIX14.

My ballot:

1 Post Tenebras Lux
2 Faust
3 A Field in England
4 Bastards
5 Computer Chess
6 Berberian Sound Studio
7 Lore
8 Enough Said
9 Inside Llewyn Davis
10 Leviathan

my ballot:

1. a touch of sin
2. before midnight
3. inside llewyn davis
4. the act of killing
5. spring breakers
6. 12 years a slave
7. frances ha
8. the past
9. nebraska
10. to the wonder

This is my #1 and likely to stay so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtNLjGbxiJE

01. Her
02. Spring Breakers
03. Leviathan
04. Room 237
05. Gravity
06. Computer Chess
07. The Missing Picture
08. Museum Hours
09. Post Tenebras Lux
10. Bastards
11. Passion
12. Inside Llewyn Davis
13. A Touch of Sin
14. Before Midnight
15. Viola
16. Upstream Color
17. The Past
18. Faust
19. Frances Ha
20. The Act of Killing
21. The Last Time I Saw Macao
22. The Lords of Salem
23. An Oversimplification of Her Beauty
24. The World’s End
25. White House Down

This is my #1 and likely to stay so

That looks amazing, but I've found no way to see it yet.

This was a fun thread, Gukbe. Thanks for sticking with it. :)

did Missing Picture run anywhere in the US in '13? I remember seeing it in Ed G's top 10, and being p sure it didn't in NYC.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2852470/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ql_dt_2

I didn't see it until 2014, but I figured it was eligible for this poll. In any case, going forward, we should just add onto previous totals if the current year's points outnumber the previous year's, a la Pazz/Jop.

have you seen 2 Guns, Eric? I notice White House Down creeping onto your list there and I think it easily outdoes that in the absurd throwback action stakes

I did. I also saw Olympus Has Fallen (which a much snobbier friend of mine championed). What can I say? Our guilty pleasures choose us, and they all probably suck.

there seems to a surprisingly clear divide between defenders of the two stupid White House under attack movies (I went with WHD as well)

I also voted for Lone Survivor which, despite its many dodgy aspects, does contain possibly the best shootout in American cinema since Heat

Missing Picture got some festival play plus a week-long thing in LA ( and maybe NY?) just for Oscar eligibility. I think it comes out properly (though dubbed in English) this month or the next.

xposts

Also, Cherish, there are ~~ways~~ to see Last Time I Saw Macao

no, NY was only the Festival. LA shouldn't count.

so clemenza is the one non-millionaire in the Western world who liked the Bergdorf Goodman documentary? I saw the trailer and wanted to call in an Al Qaeda operation.

i kinda hated it tbh and i only got through the first half hour

caught up on a few things

Kings of Summer - this was really great, slot it in @ 5 or so

Fruitvale Station - not bad, obv going for more weight but is a few
magnitudes less good than 'gimme the loot'

Dallas Buyers Club - eh Oscar bait

12 yrs a slave - is good, slot in somewhere in my bottom 5

1 - Gimme the Loot
2 - This is Martin Bonner
3 - Mud
4 - Philip Roth: Unmasked
5 - Seduced and Abandoned
6 - Upstream Color
7 - Side Effects
8- Simon Killer
9 - Frances Ha
10 - Beyond the Hills
11 - At Any Price
12 - Nebraska
13 - American Hustle
14 - All is Lost
15 - All the Light in the Sky
16 - The Wolf of Wall Street
17 - What Maise Knew
18 - Inside Llewyn Davis
19 - Behind the Candalabra

forgot - computer chess/bastards; prob half dozen or so contenders that ive not seen

― johnny crunch, Monday, March 3, 2014 6:56 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hope Gukbe does this again.

It's coming! End of January.

Yay! post here to remind when the nominations go up?

i dont think we did noms? just ballots and you were on your own m/l to judge if it met released in the year

whatever's clever. But post here when we start plz? I don't check site new answers really.

Yeah I'll definitely post here. Just giving everyone at least a month to catch up before we even start.

New poll thread is up!