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'Nothing Important', both the song and the album.
This is some of the best music I've heard in ages, I think. Four songs and with them - with TWO of them - he's become one of my favourite British artists. A certain chap agrees:
Marcello Carlin @marcellocarlin · Oct 16By the way, “Nothing Important” by @richarddawson12 is the most striking and stunning piece of music I've heard this year. Album out Nov 3.
https://soundcloud.com/weirdworldrecordco/richard-dawson-nothing-important/s-OiEAn
^the title-track - there's another one called The Vile Stuff that's pretty much just as good - there's an 11-minute video version on Youtube and the full 16-minute version elsewhere.
Apparently an incredible live perfomer as well:
No, but seriously: my friend played me 'Poor Old Horse' when I went home for christmas last year, but he did the thing he always does and made the preamble so amazing that nothing can ever live up to it. So I spent the year thinking Dawson was good but not as amazing as he was made out to be... until I saw him live. When I was super pissed off with my tent probably having been blown away by horrible winds and worried about everything... and Dawson really *was* as good as the preamble. Pulling up this intense voice, hitting himself to make it come out, screaming and yelping... he is genuinely so so good.― emil.y, Monday, November 17, 2014 1:03 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― emil.y, Monday, November 17, 2014 1:03 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Fully expect ILM to get behind this guy
― imago, Monday, 17 November 2014 20:33 (ten years ago)
ah you started this while I was in rolling time travel, also everyone likes a guy who posts his posts to multiple threads
Richard Dawson is p much one of my favourite working musical entities in the world and has been for the last 18-24 months maybe. he is also a v nice person ime. really glad he is getting more and more opportunities to do his thing in front of more people.
if you happen to see a review of his new album as published by a weekly UK music paper of note, please don't bother reading it as it's been edited to make its writer sound lukewarm on the album, and intimidated by its scary weirdness. FUCK EDITORS
― proper maoist (DJ Mencap), Monday, November 17, 2014 8:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― proper maoist (DJ Mencap), Monday, 17 November 2014 20:39 (ten years ago)
Really hope this takes off completely. Not sure how. If tedious worthy dreck like Young Fathers is winning the Mercury, what chance does Dawson have, eh?
Anyway, this isn't about him taking off, this is about how his music is fucking astonishing & his personality one of the most performatively engaging I've heard on record
― imago, Monday, 17 November 2014 20:48 (ten years ago)
Not seen him live, but the record is extraordinary. In all sorts of ways: people who like it will really, really, really like it; those who don't will simply be unable to make any sense of it, and I'm not yet sure which camp I fall into. It sounds like a stream of consciousness, both musically and lyrically. In many ways its a truer and more difficult form of alternative/outsider music than any noise or deliberately anti-melody record, because there are tunes and melodies here, they just seem all wrong - the notes, the chords, the progressions all seem wrong. Like a folk Beefheart.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 17 November 2014 20:56 (ten years ago)
I've definitely mentioned him on here a few times as well. Seen him probably about half a dozen times in the last 3 or 4 years, I think the first time was just as The Magic Bridge came out and he's never been less than brilliant. From the visceral impact of Poor Old Horse the first time I saw him, to the pouring out of his heart in Wooden Bag, to co-opting folk standards like The Brisk Lad, to the sinister tragedy espoused in Ghost Of A Tree - which could also live on the creepy british tv thread in tone - I've always been rapt.
I wrote about Nothing Important on FB but can't find my post. I'll repeat what I said there though - The Vile Stuff is the distillation of his career to date and if he never does anything again that song will be enough.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Monday, 17 November 2014 21:29 (ten years ago)
let's post it here, in fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQVlNt6DAxY
― imago, Monday, 17 November 2014 21:32 (ten years ago)
2:40 into "Nothing Important" and this is very easily going into the "I don't get it" file
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 17 November 2014 21:38 (ten years ago)
"The Vile Stuff" is completely obsessing me right now. Probably my favourite track of the year. (Evidently based in truth, as his teacher left a comment on his FB:
"Ha ha. I remember that trip to featherstone castle one of the highlights of my teaching career" Also heard very good things about him as a live performer, from a trusted source. Hell, even his collages are good: http://www.richarddawson.net/collages.html
― mike t-diva, Monday, 17 November 2014 23:51 (ten years ago)
I'm interested
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 01:20 (ten years ago)
i've liked some of this guy;s stuff but i'm getting an icky jam-band feeling from that last youtube
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 02:51 (ten years ago)
how many minutes did you listen for
after 2 or 3 minutes the vocals come in and it's completely gripping, imo
― imago, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 03:00 (ten years ago)
i listened to the whole thing!
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 04:13 (ten years ago)
I think this would probably appeal to folks who dig the Incredible String Band. I'm more on the Holy Modal Rounders' team, myself.
― rushomancy, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 12:32 (ten years ago)
I can see tracks like Judas Iscariot and all the instrumental pieces on The Glass Trunk appealing to Derek Bailey fans. John Fahey fans might get a lot out of this too.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 12:37 (ten years ago)
Judas Iscariot is like a more deliberate Bill Orcutt
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 12:49 (ten years ago)
Yeah, I can see that.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 12:58 (ten years ago)
Dammmm, just listened to Nothing Important on Spotify: "Judas Iscariot" an instrumental,justifies the Fahey and Derek Bailey comparisons right away, unselfconsciously; title track's vocals vulnerable, idealistic, tenacious, suggesting Robert Wyatt and Roy Harper; "The Vile Stuff" is a mighty tag-magnet for all of the above and RIYL ISB, the groove of solo Wino, Dredd Foole, and maybe Jandek (though I'm not a J-man fan). This track is or surely should be the one to get him on campus etc. radio. "Doubting Thomas" instrumental perfectly folds into its four minutes plus. The words haven't all registered yet, but I like the ones that have. Thanks ILM!
― dow, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:17 (ten years ago)
Seems that this all comes from his own youngblood experiences (incl. listening to his records and himself), more than wearing influences on his sleeve. Though still working on his own unmistakable sound, own voice, as writers say.
― dow, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:21 (ten years ago)
It sounds like a stream of consciousness, both musically and lyrically. In many ways its a truer and more difficult form of alternative/outsider music than any noise or deliberately anti-melody record, because there are tunes and melodies here, they just seem all wrong - the notes, the chords, the progressions all seem wrong. Like a folk Beefheart.
Description sounds like Kevin Coyne, in KC's more out there moments. But he doesn't sound like Kevin Coyne, more like Roy Harper gone weird.
― Euripides' Trousers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:37 (ten years ago)
Yeah, Coyne and Beefheart are in the same associative family tree, but actual sound closer to young Harper.
― dow, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:50 (ten years ago)
Seriously one of the year's best records
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:52 (ten years ago)
i liked the first track on glass trunk with the letter so much but have cooled on him since then
― ogmor, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 19:39 (ten years ago)
Oh yeah this is pretty cool. Like the guitar playing a lot.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:21 (ten years ago)
listening judas iscariot right now
good, but as a couple others pointed out VERY bill orcutt almost to the point of distraction for me sometimes
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:39 (ten years ago)
I'm liking "Nothing Important" quite a bit.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:42 (ten years ago)
huh ok now the next song is L@@K RARE OOP PRIVATE PRESS UK PROGRESSIVE WITCH FOLK VG++ ONLY 200 COPIES WERE PRESSED
this song is awesome
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:43 (ten years ago)
also the first song was good, i shouldn't be backhanded, it was more "put together" than orcutt usually is and it's not like recalling bill orcutt is an easy task either way
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:44 (ten years ago)
Richard Dawson 'The Vile Stuff' (Karen Gwyer Remix)
Listen to Karen Gwyer's hypnotic version of the song https://soundcloud.com/weirdworldrecordco/richard-dawson-the-vile-stuff-karen-gwyer-remix
"Nothing Important is driven by an ongoing conflict between entropic impulsiveness and an almost classical sense of beauty and order...Dawson's most ambitious and affecting composition to date." 7.8 - Pitchfork
"The 33-year-old Newcastle avant-troubadour has made one of the most unique singer-songwriter records in recent memory with the abrasive, vivid Nothing Important.” - Rolling Stone
The sinister lament that is ‘The Vile Stuff’ shows Dawson as a master of the minutiae of British storytelling as he charts the downfall of a group of students on a school trip, “downing Asda’s own-brand stubbies in the lad’s bogs” before succumbing to all sorts of transgression and calamity – fracturing skulls and cheekbones, stabbing screwdrivers through their hands and hopping into bed with their teachers. It’s a song as surreal as it is strangely relatable in its pitch-black humour and effortless conjuring of grizzly adolescent fantasy.
In her remix, Gwyer takes the song's ominous instrumental loop and tones it up into a muscular, sinister alien-club track reminiscent of her releases for No Pain In Pop.
Read a recent interview with Richard Dawson via BOMB Magazine (conversation w Cian Nugent):http://bombmagazine.org/article/2000044/richard-dawson/
― dow, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:46 (ten years ago)
That's from dominorecordco.com, so's this
http://i2.cmail1.com/ei/d/36/889/699/csimport/RichardDawson-CROPPEDFORPR.151153.jpeg
― dow, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:49 (ten years ago)
oh my fucking god this remix
― imago, Friday, 5 December 2014 00:36 (ten years ago)
just found myself listening to this dude earlier today cuz he is supporting the ex next week. definitely pro him
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 5 December 2014 00:37 (ten years ago)
listened to him for the first time yesterday, siked to have a new person to listen to whose work I think is amazing
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:07 (ten years ago)
to me, this has some similarities to akron/family back in the day when they were really on top of what I believed to be an extremely compelling sound
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:09 (ten years ago)
listening to the back half of nothing important and oh man this guy
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:50 (ten years ago)
maybe I need to go to both days of the the ex thing
aah, i used to kind of know this guy from when he worked at alt vinyl in newcastle years ago, pleased to see him making a name for himself (or is it just on ilm . i saw him play loads of times about 5 or 6 years ago and he was always great but never got round to hearing any of his albums somehow (will rectify this). i remember being being quite taken aback when i first heard him singing, him being such a mild mannered, softly spoken chap.
― Benny B, Friday, 5 December 2014 23:31 (ten years ago)
i`ll admit my memories of that time in the north east are getting pretty hazy, but i remember wondering at the time htf maximo park and the futureheads blew up when field music and richard dawson were sooo much better
― Benny B, Friday, 5 December 2014 23:37 (ten years ago)
gosh how did a band whose calling card was a novelty 80s cover make a deeper impression on the public than this guy with his sixteen minute song about school kids getting drunk on 4x and stabbing themselves with screwdrivers
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 6 December 2014 09:16 (ten years ago)
ha! well it was back when i actually gave a fuck about such things.
― Benny B, Saturday, 6 December 2014 10:31 (ten years ago)
five or six years ago RD's music was much more quote-unquote accessible straight-bat folk-rock kinda stuff; afaik no-one took much notice until he started to get ~weird~
― proper maoist (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 6 December 2014 11:21 (ten years ago)
So what a couple of bits I've heard reminds me of (so far) is some Harsh 70s..-era Dead C 'heavy' strumming. After five mins I can't be arsed.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 December 2014 16:26 (ten years ago)
I dreamt about Richard Dawson last night.
In the dream the mainstream had decided to try and co-opt him and so he had been invited on TV wanker-fest Sunday Brunch with Tim Lovejoy and The Other One. It was a special summer edition which was outside and the invited "too old for Hoxton but we're going to pretend anyway" middle class twunt target market were having a picnic. To try and make him more palatable they had given him a completely inappropriate backing band and they started a version of The Brisk Lad that sounded a bit like Take That. Richard tried to destabilise things by picking up a saxophone (which he clearly couldn't play) and tunelessly honking over them after the first verse. The producers responded by turning up the backing to try and restore order. Richard then walked off the stage in amongst the picnickers and started ad-lining verses, but when he said he would split the stolen sheep "from maw to cunt" it got a bit much for the producers and it went to a black screen.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Sunday, 7 December 2014 11:32 (ten years ago)
:D
someone not on phone pls repost to striking imagery thread asap
― imago, Sunday, 7 December 2014 12:30 (ten years ago)
That should have been "ad-libbing" near the end, but autocorrect obvs.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Sunday, 7 December 2014 12:37 (ten years ago)
AAAAAAHHHH
― imago, Saturday, 13 December 2014 02:44 (ten years ago)
Just interviewed him. Lovely man.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 15 December 2014 13:14 (ten years ago)
Spoke to him after the gig and can corroborate this
― imago, Monday, 15 December 2014 13:34 (ten years ago)
this is great! how did i not hear it till now?
― this is just a saginaw (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 10:41 (ten years ago)
This should be right up my alley but I've never managed to get past the first couple tracks.
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 11:44 (ten years ago)
there are only 4 tracks
― London's Left-Wing Utopian Non-League Ultras Are Reclaiming Football (imago), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 13:50 (ten years ago)
I've listened to this about 4 times in the last 24 hours. Such expressive guitar playing. It makes me wonder what his guitar method is. He said in a Wire interview that when it comes to different tunings, he forgets what they are, but it definitely sounds like he's throwing in some interesting tunings in there all the same.
― this is just a saginaw (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 14:05 (ten years ago)
also everyone likes a guy who posts his posts to multiple threads
imo it is nothing short of the finest pastoralia the north of england has produced, its folk stylings tempered with something utterly seaborne & untameable. 'nothing important' is a preternaturally brilliant folk-prog exegesis on mortality for god's sake, yet it also feels…slightly improvised?
glad to have you on board, i really think this stuff is the most interesting & emotionally affecting music coming out of this country at the moment
― London's Left-Wing Utopian Non-League Ultras Are Reclaiming Football (imago), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 2:26 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― London's Left-Wing Utopian Non-League Ultras Are Reclaiming Football (imago), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 14:27 (ten years ago)
if nothing else, "utterly seaborne" has me downloading this atm
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 15:14 (ten years ago)
this fucking guy... the lyrical swing between the mundane and the fantastical... All in a weird semi-tonal bloodchant:
Year 7s on a school trip to Featherstone CastleAnd some wee scallywag's brungA Coca-Cola bottle containing a spiritPoor Peter Hepplethwaite cracks open his headOn a shiny brass doorknobAnd has to be rushed by helicopter amublanceTo Haltwhistle HospitalSi Shovell fills a Reebok pumpWith the pulp from his bellyThen sets off a fire extinguisherIn the girl's dormitoryAnd finally clambers into bed with Miss BartholomewMuch to the chagrin of the deputy headmasterWhose scarlet skull is firmly wedged between her thighsI only drank a few little dropletsI only took a tiny draught of the vile stuffDowning Asda's own-brand stubbies in the lad's bogsI listen to the dull reflection of a carillon in the toilet bowlMy A-levels drifting away from meMatthew Mooney's hockle in my hairSmells like menthol tabsOutside the chip shop Thaddeus Wagstaff fractures my cheekbone;3 empty cans of Castlemaine XXXXGo rolling down my trouser legBlood, snot and curry coalesce in the corners of my nailsMy friends drifting away from meI only drank a few little dropletsI only took a tiny draught of the vile stuffAttempting to penetrate a coconut husk with a Philips-head screwdriverI pierce a hole straight through my hand into the laminate worktopIt's a major operation to repair a damaged tendon;I come around with the tube still down my throatThe milk of amnesia fills my cup and back into the hole I goSnoring like a pan of broth, I arouse the ireOf my fellow patientsWagging their ladles in the darkMy neighbour Andrew lost two fingers to a Staffie-crossWhilst jogging over Cow Hill with a Pepperami in his bum-bagHe's a junior partner at James & James no-win-no-fee solicitorThinking of relocating to a Buddhist monastery in HalifaxHe reckons I should try meditationHe reckons it could benefit my peace of mindMy bedroom walls are papered with the stripes of Newcastle UnitedBetween which I perceive the presence of a horse-headed figureHolding aloft a flaming quiver of bramble silhouettesHe is the King of ChildrenSinging like a boiler: 'Tomorrow is on its way'I haven't had a wink of sleep and now the sun is in my porridgeI'm starting a BTEC in Engineering at Tynemouth CollegeMy thermos flask leaks parsnip soup on the metroClogging up the keys of my MacBookCarrot pennies steam amidst a pyre of pencilsRuck-sack dripping up the steps of WH Smith'sTo buy a fresh pad of paperI only drank a few little dropletsI only took a tiny draught of the vile stuff
Si Shovell fills a Reebok pumpWith the pulp from his bellyThen sets off a fire extinguisherIn the girl's dormitoryAnd finally clambers into bed with Miss BartholomewMuch to the chagrin of the deputy headmasterWhose scarlet skull is firmly wedged between her thighs
I only drank a few little dropletsI only took a tiny draught of the vile stuff
Downing Asda's own-brand stubbies in the lad's bogsI listen to the dull reflection of a carillon in the toilet bowlMy A-levels drifting away from meMatthew Mooney's hockle in my hairSmells like menthol tabs
Outside the chip shop Thaddeus Wagstaff fractures my cheekbone;3 empty cans of Castlemaine XXXXGo rolling down my trouser legBlood, snot and curry coalesce in the corners of my nailsMy friends drifting away from me
Attempting to penetrate a coconut husk with a Philips-head screwdriverI pierce a hole straight through my hand into the laminate worktopIt's a major operation to repair a damaged tendon;I come around with the tube still down my throatThe milk of amnesia fills my cup and back into the hole I go
Snoring like a pan of broth, I arouse the ireOf my fellow patientsWagging their ladles in the dark
My neighbour Andrew lost two fingers to a Staffie-crossWhilst jogging over Cow Hill with a Pepperami in his bum-bagHe's a junior partner at James & James no-win-no-fee solicitorThinking of relocating to a Buddhist monastery in Halifax
He reckons I should try meditationHe reckons it could benefit my peace of mind
My bedroom walls are papered with the stripes of Newcastle UnitedBetween which I perceive the presence of a horse-headed figureHolding aloft a flaming quiver of bramble silhouettesHe is the King of ChildrenSinging like a boiler: 'Tomorrow is on its way'
I haven't had a wink of sleep and now the sun is in my porridgeI'm starting a BTEC in Engineering at Tynemouth CollegeMy thermos flask leaks parsnip soup on the metroClogging up the keys of my MacBook
Carrot pennies steam amidst a pyre of pencilsRuck-sack dripping up the steps of WH Smith'sTo buy a fresh pad of paper
― this is just a saginaw (dog latin), Friday, 9 January 2015 14:29 (ten years ago)
Nothing Important is even better, maybe?
I am born by Caesarian section at 9:30 AMin Princess Mary's Maternity Hospitalon the 24th May, forty years ago today,dangled by the ankle, smacked across the bum,swaddled in a blanket howling like a wheel.My big brother on his tip-toes hisses 'I don't like him'.He's Maradona, I'm Peter Beardsley, chasing a ball through the mudfollowed by the kitchen window, bellowing through the fern:'Boys! Dinner's ready!'Dad is tuning in the telly beyond a heaving mountain of spaghetti hoops.I am nothingYou are nothingNothing importantDeath within a dreamPetrified on the back of a pedalo in the Balearic Sea off AlcudiaI can see the ghost of my uncle Derek waving to us from the beach,gently drifting out of reach,the telephone receiver swinging by its cord,a glass of broken beer expanding on the lino.My mam slips into the coffina polaroid of his sweetheartClutching Good-Luck Bear I peer gingerly over the side,press my nose up to the tide,and there behold a barracuda chewing on a chrysanthemumand a family of clownfish hovering in the corpse's hair.I am nothingYou are nothingNothing importantDeath within a dreamIn the scullery of the cub-hut my clarinet fallsinto a sack of flour - a flurry of pinssquashed into the leather handlea crescent moon of sleeping fig-wasps.Drizzling my fingers with The Magic SpongeDad says 'we'll probably have to chop them off'.He collapses like a canvas tent on the floodlit astroturfrent by a fibula guide-rod poking a hole through his shinThere are teardrops in his moustachecharging a flute of champagnedown the aisle and out for a throw-inA St.John ambulance careers between the sugary pillars of the wedding cakeI am nothingYou are nothingNothing importantDeath within a dreamA crystal spoonA pewter tankardthese words inscribed upon the base:HAPPY RETIREMENT BEST GRANDDAD IN THE WORLDA toby jug filled to the brim with curtain hooksA sheepskin rug discoloured with tobacco smokewithin its braids concealed a rankof plastic soldiers set to burst underfootBerwick in oils: a skiff on the swollen Tweedcradling a false pearla ceramic seraphwith an ashtray for a brain- and I don't care about these thingsWhy do they remain so clear while the faces of my loved ones disappear?A Rington's platea forking hairline seam of superglue through the Black Gatea digital photoframefrozen on a blurry orange thumbI don't care about these thingsOld karate trophiesI remember these thingsThimbles and pesetasI remember all these thingsA roll of Woolworth's price stickersI can see all these things butwhere have all my people gone?In the end it wasn't meant to be.He was the most beautiful thing that I had ever seen.He survived for seven daysbefore he slipped away
I am nothingYou are nothingNothing importantDeath within a dream
Petrified on the back of a pedalo in the Balearic Sea off AlcudiaI can see the ghost of my uncle Derek waving to us from the beach,gently drifting out of reach,the telephone receiver swinging by its cord,a glass of broken beer expanding on the lino.My mam slips into the coffina polaroid of his sweetheartClutching Good-Luck Bear I peer gingerly over the side,press my nose up to the tide,and there behold a barracuda chewing on a chrysanthemumand a family of clownfish hovering in the corpse's hair.
In the scullery of the cub-hut my clarinet fallsinto a sack of flour - a flurry of pinssquashed into the leather handlea crescent moon of sleeping fig-wasps.Drizzling my fingers with The Magic SpongeDad says 'we'll probably have to chop them off'.He collapses like a canvas tent on the floodlit astroturfrent by a fibula guide-rod poking a hole through his shinThere are teardrops in his moustachecharging a flute of champagnedown the aisle and out for a throw-inA St.John ambulance careers between the sugary pillars of the wedding cake
A crystal spoonA pewter tankardthese words inscribed upon the base:HAPPY RETIREMENT BEST GRANDDAD IN THE WORLDA toby jug filled to the brim with curtain hooksA sheepskin rug discoloured with tobacco smokewithin its braids concealed a rankof plastic soldiers set to burst underfootBerwick in oils: a skiff on the swollen Tweedcradling a false pearla ceramic seraphwith an ashtray for a brain- and I don't care about these thingsWhy do they remain so clear while the faces of my loved ones disappear?
A Rington's platea forking hairline seam of superglue through the Black Gatea digital photoframefrozen on a blurry orange thumbI don't care about these thingsOld karate trophiesI remember these thingsThimbles and pesetasI remember all these thingsA roll of Woolworth's price stickersI can see all these things butwhere have all my people gone?
In the end it wasn't meant to be.He was the most beautiful thing that I had ever seen.He survived for seven daysbefore he slipped away
yeah try not to cry
― London's Left-Wing Utopian Non-League Ultras Are Reclaiming Football (imago), Friday, 9 January 2015 15:00 (ten years ago)
I like those lyrics. Right now, I just wish he didn't sing them in unison with the guitar lead like Robert Wyatt doing George Benson. But I am trying.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 01:53 (ten years ago)
'Nothing Important' > 'The Vile Stuff', though
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 01:55 (ten years ago)
The Vile Stuff is utterly amazing but yeah it got those votes (compared to NI) on the strength of having a shortened version with a video. Nothing Important is maybe one of the 20 greatest songs I've ever heard. I like that it got 134 points in the EOY poll with 3 votes alone!
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 01:59 (ten years ago)
Richard Dawson is an interesting one. Yes, there are similarities with other avant garde guitarists like Bill Orcutt and Derek Bailey, but those dudes strike me as being very deliberately deconstructionist to an almost academic degree whereas Dawson's playing style is 100% expressionist and very audibly so. His lyrical approach and the regional, historical and autobiographical references he incorporates into his work are truly unique. Also, the influence of art and world music in his work is as strong as any English folk music. Not to mention the way he amps his nylon string guitar through a Fender, which is considered highly unorthodox but achieves a very particular tone. There's a reason Wire mag has been going crazy over him this year.― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Friday, January 23, 2015 2:43 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Friday, January 23, 2015 2:43 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
brilliant post that needs to go here, nice one dl
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:56 (ten years ago)
New remix of Judas Iscariot by Basic House (Bish from Drunk In Hell/Opal Tapes).
http://www.factmag.com/2015/01/23/hear-basic-houses-misty-remix-of-newcastle-guitar-bard-richard-dawson/
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:02 (ten years ago)
An over-reliance on locations and names in lyrics is not to my taste. But: Dawson does it so much and so arrogantly I feel he's doing it deliberately to mock American songwriters who have interstates and national parks they'll namedrop without thinking about it. I mean, I think he's "taking the piss"
― fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:10 (ten years ago)
srsly been struggling with which riverbed tbh
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:11 (ten years ago)
He's basically doing the same stuff that happened in so much early 2000s psych-folk and freak-folk that I loved, not Devendra/Vetiver/Akron Family, but Cerberus Shoal/Big Blood, Eric Chenaux, Deep Dark United. Love this kind of stuff.
xp please LJ don't I come here to relax
― fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:12 (ten years ago)
sorry
there's something to be said about an overreliance on place names but dawson's use of microscopic detail is a v important part of his aesthetic - see the lyrics to Nothing Important where he compiles a huge list of childhood memories but then REJECTS them all - he has no need for them - it is more the tragic pathos of detail that he is invested in I'd say, less taking the piss (although there is a bit of that; he's very funny)
never heard any of those artists. links would be appreciated :)
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:17 (ten years ago)
or just single-song/single-album recommendations
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:18 (ten years ago)
I'm not so into that piss-taking theory, if only because it seems like a poor payoff for the effort it requires. I think as Dawson does it, it's serious (I don't mean po-faced).
― jmm, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:22 (ten years ago)
Silly thing to take the piss out of, so, no.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:26 (ten years ago)
Richard Dawson is an interesting one. Yes, there are similarities with other avant garde guitarists like Bill Orcutt and Derek Bailey, but those dudes strike me as being very deliberately deconstructionist to an almost academic degree whereas Dawson's playing style is 100% expressionist and very audibly so. His lyrical approach and the regional, historical and autobiographical references he incorporates into his work are truly unique. Also, the influence of art and world music in his work is as strong as any English folk music. Not to mention the way he amps his nylon string guitar through a Fender, which is considered highly unorthodox but achieves a very particular tone. There's a reason Wire mag has been going crazy over him this year.
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No it isn't.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:30 (ten years ago)
LOL
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:33 (ten years ago)
I just responded to that in the EOY thread:
hey dog latin I am late for this but there is not one single thing about Bill Orcutt that is "academic", now please go listen to Harry Pussy's What Was Music and Ride A Dove.
― ilx polls with striking imago (sleeve), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:39 (ten years ago)
it's a great post about Dawson, at least - I don't know Orcutt or Bailey
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:39 (ten years ago)
so you didn't know a few of the bits he was comparing it to - are you even going to start thinking before you type this stuff.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:52 (ten years ago)
Place naming has always incited ire in my heart I guess since I heard some Canucks try and do it "she blew like a Chinook down Yonge Street" or something
If you like the raga guitar of Richard, search Eric Chenaux "Worm and Gear", it's on Soundcloud. Stompy vibe? "Sweetie" from the Cerberus Shoal split w Herman Dune (no Herman on it don't worry). Deep Dark United is my favourite band ever, seek "Zut".
― fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:53 (ten years ago)
Hey, I like Herman Dune. Grrrr.
― emil.y, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:53 (ten years ago)
omg I did not know about that Cerebus Shoal split, I love them, thank you!
― ilx polls with striking imago (sleeve), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:55 (ten years ago)
I like Herman Dune too tbh! But for different reasons, different moods
― fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)
Weirdly that CS/HD split is imo the best thing the Cerberus camp would do til Big Blood
― fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:57 (ten years ago)
yh cheers, stoked to hear these. micachu mixtape was gr8 btw so ty doubly
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:59 (ten years ago)
I agree that place naming can be irksome - claiming a sort of rootsy kinship in a play for perceived authenticity - but Dawson is playing with memory and its trappings, also he likes & revels in the sounds of the names a lot. Hogwhistle Hospital!
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:03 (ten years ago)
Didn't hear much Harry Pussy in the Dawson tracks I listened to; solo Orcutt is a different matter.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
oh for sure, was just bringing up the HP albums is response to Orcutt's perceived "academic" qualities
― ilx polls with striking imago (sleeve), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:14 (ten years ago)
Yeah they are pretty much the antithesis of academic albs (unless the Centre for Advanced Bill Harkelroad Studies has really taken off recently)
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:38 (ten years ago)
Hogwhistle?
― ewar woowar (or something), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:42 (ten years ago)
OMG, it has been a long time since I listened to anything by Chenaux or Deep Dark United! Should dig some up. Has Dawson ever mentioned being aware of them?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:44 (ten years ago)
For the record, the only Orcutt I've heard is 'A History Of Every One'. I will check out Harry Pussy. But yeah, IIRC that was an album of deconstructed standards and reminded me very much of Derek Bailey. I mean, I love and respect Bailey. He's a revolutionary and his ideas are incredible, but I listen to Dawson for very different reasons.
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:57 (ten years ago)
Respec' to Del
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:05 (ten years ago)
A gentleman and a scholar.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:06 (ten years ago)
Not much of a singer though
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:06 (ten years ago)
Nobody's perfect.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:09 (ten years ago)
It's okay when Stomping Tom does it though, right?
― everything, Friday, 23 January 2015 18:50 (ten years ago)
we used to live there on vine st
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:21 (ten years ago)
feel like street names should be exempt bc there are so many repeats
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:22 (ten years ago)
Stompin' Tom does it just fineAmericans can get away with it usually but if you hear "Dayton, Ohio 1903" and get what I mean then good
― fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)
I choose to take "Dayton, Ohio 1903" as a reference to first powered flight so that I can laugh at the narrator tbh
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:02 (ten years ago)
think I got that interpretation from a comment on songmeanings.com, though.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:03 (ten years ago)
actually, I laugh with Randy at the person that asked Randy to write that type of song, i.e. "Sing a song of long ago"
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:05 (ten years ago)
listen not to belabor this orcutt stuff but listen to "judas iscariot" off the dawson album and not think of orcutt is pretty ridiculous imo
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:11 (ten years ago)
also i really do like this album good job richard dawson ilx poll season makes me combative for no good reason i'm glad this album exists and ppl are digging it
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:17 (ten years ago)
Yes we're on the same page
― fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:32 (ten years ago)
"Robert Wyatt doing George Benson" is a wonderful observation.
― charlie h, Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:33 (ten years ago)
yeah the first thing my wife compared "The Vile Stuff" to was Wyatt
― parakeetal pancreasface (sleeve), Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:59 (ten years ago)
I think more specifically, the apocalyptic content of The Vile Stuff, wouldn't be as apparent if he didn't name all of the apostles [Thadeus, James and James Solicitors = James Son Of James, Miss Bartholemew…] so whether he's mocking or not, the list of names is kind of what the song's all about and it wouldn't work without them.
― Doran, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:26 (ten years ago)
I dig this and I love the place-naming. His lyrics remind me of Nigel Blackwell although straining for a darkly surreal and wild poetic quality rather than Blackwell's comedy of the mundane.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:50 (ten years ago)
amazing detail about the apostles - I totally missed that
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:52 (ten years ago)
well i'll be...
― rem remrum (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:04 (ten years ago)
^
― pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:05 (ten years ago)
Listening to this record with a bit of a wobble on this morning, s'got me all over the place, am a mess
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 7 February 2015 11:59 (ten years ago)
:)
think this might be my favourite music of the last few years. Nigel Blackwell gone art-folk makes sense as a comparison bit there's something more wide-eyed and Romantic about Dawson's outlook (not that Blackwell lacks these qualities entirely). I don't think Dawson would be overly given to snipe at things he disapproves of.
― pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Saturday, 7 February 2015 12:08 (ten years ago)
I like the press of accumulating, involuntary and unwelcome minutiae vs. and I don't care about these thingsWhy do they remain so clear while the faces of my loved ones disappear? That's life, kid, more and more: the memories you have vs. the ones you *should* have, even want to have. But there can be a liberation or release, relief, in submitting to that, in art, at least.
― dow, Saturday, 7 February 2015 14:43 (ten years ago)
Although he doesn't sound relieved yet. Letting it spew, though.
― dow, Saturday, 7 February 2015 14:45 (ten years ago)
The delivery and placement of that line is so great
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 7 February 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)
Olllld karate trophies
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 7 February 2015 16:04 (ten years ago)
just listening to The Ice-Breaker Baikal on the way home, magnificent
― woof, Saturday, 7 February 2015 17:44 (ten years ago)
The theme of the apostles - and other religious matters - came up in an interview I carried out with Richard Dawson last week if anyone's interested.
― Doran, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:53 (ten years ago)
god's work, doran
― Josh Whitehurst the endowed drummer and backing vocalist (imago), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:16 (ten years ago)
He knocked on the door and my brother answered. I was frightened so I hid behind the door. I peeped around and saw that he had come in a big old dragster car (we actually had a little dragster racing board game at the time). It was parked at the end of the drive and the engine was still growling. I remember I was really scared. The Easter Bunny understood this and leaned around the door to look squarely at me. He was very serious and not like a cartoon bunny. He was a very realistic looking rabbit, but human sized and wearing quite simple clothes. He looked at me and was very solemn. Then he slowly nodded and handed me a chocolate egg. I cannot stress how melancholy an air this giant rabbit had about him. Then he got back in his dragster and roared off.
brb going to create a sort of cultish wallchart with dawson, julian cope, cardiacs, oliver postgate, dylan thomas and some others until british pastoralia leaps forth connected as a sort of salvation
dawson on religion is as close to my own position as anyone i've read
he is beyond, a marvel
― Josh Whitehurst the endowed drummer and backing vocalist (imago), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:19 (ten years ago)
great great interview, thanks doran
― woof, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:30 (ten years ago)
cheers, i've 'pocketed' this for later reading.
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:31 (ten years ago)
Excellent interview, that.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:22 (ten years ago)
yes, thanks
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:25 (ten years ago)
That's great.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:44 (ten years ago)
Great interview. Fascinating that he works on the lyrics for so long. Apart from maybe Leonard Cohen, I don't think I've heard someone talk about working on a lyric to a single song in that way.
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:50 (ten years ago)
Fucking hell, that's an amazing interview.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 08:56 (ten years ago)
just broke open a coconut and because of the cautionary tale on this album all I could think of was not to use a screwdriver under any circumstances
ftr I hit it with a big wrench and did not injure myself
― hot takes: audit in progress (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)
Who's going to the Lexington tonight?
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:43 (ten years ago)
sold out by the time I found out - but hunting a spare ticket today & strongly tempted to go along and see if can get one there
― woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:52 (ten years ago)
Ruth Flecknell We did go on a ghost hunt at featherstone but the real spirit was definitely in that bottle and the trip to haltwhistle was in my car- a helicopter would have been much more well driven! It was definitely a weird experience for the adults as well as the youngsters we took. The genius is in the way you narrate the event and from the adult perspective looking back I can see how bizarre it was on so many levels for some of the children on the periphery of events. Good luck with your tour, I will catch your next one, the tickets were sold out this time before I woke up to how in vogue you are Like · Reply · 1 · 10 February at 15:05
RICHARD DAWSON Mrs Flecknell - there will always be room for you at a gig, please remember this!Like · Reply · 10 February at 15:15
Ruth Flecknell I will. Thanks richard. You deserve your success.Like · Reply · 1 · 10 February at 15:16
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:16 (ten years ago)
the best person. 'Mrs Flecknell'!!!
didn't get a ticket for tonight :( and scarletmist is gone :(:(
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:27 (ten years ago)
thinking there's no great hardship sitting in a pub for a couple of hours and keeping an ear open for spares & returns.
― woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:47 (ten years ago)
maybe we might join you tbh
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:50 (ten years ago)
how big is the venue? slightly surprising he has such a followingcity boys paying high three figures on the secondary no doubt
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:51 (ten years ago)
by 'we' i mean me and my fifteen friends, all of whom like to barge in front
the lexington is what i'd call a 'large pub venue'
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:52 (ten years ago)
i reckon I'll recognise you lj, so I'll say hello, shake hands before the fight to the death over the single spare.
Vile Stuff as city boy drinking anthem, I can see it
― woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 14:03 (ten years ago)
If I wasn't feeling like shit I would have joined you, but no doubt he'll be playing Cafe Oto at some point soon.
how big is the venue? slightly surprising he has such a following
I'm not at all surprised!
― Nut-bloody-rageous (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2015 14:48 (ten years ago)
we are here (it's near my gf's work)...let the hunt begin
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 18:52 (ten years ago)
Awww man Mrs Flecknell
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 February 2015 18:55 (ten years ago)
He was incredible last night. Did an 80 minute set, felt too short. I got a little overexcited and drank a whole bottle of red wine during the set and could barely walk afterwards, I blame him doing The Vile Stuff last, if he'd done it first I'd have felt forewarned.
http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10979611_1413180728981101_1236214605_n.jpg
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 14 February 2015 13:49 (ten years ago)
Had to leave the Lexington after four songs because I was getting besieged by texts about Steve Strange and had to go and sort out coverage. Unfortunately I was right at the front in the corner, which made getting out horrible for me and everyone I had to get past.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 14 February 2015 17:46 (ten years ago)
Didn't scrounge a ticket, but booked in for May at Bethnal Green WMC.
― woof, Saturday, 14 February 2015 18:20 (ten years ago)
the qawali element of the vile stuff hadn't really struck me before, but hearing everyone clapping along to it and with dawsons voice wailing high above the rhythm, it was so damn obvious. Could have done without people tunelessly moaning along to poor old horse though, felt like dawson was altering his phrasing every time on that chorus just to try and shake them off his tail
― let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Saturday, 14 February 2015 18:23 (ten years ago)
The Lex gig was amazing. Poor Old Horse. What an upsetting song.
― Doran, Saturday, 14 February 2015 19:15 (ten years ago)
Cambridge gig tonight was so good. I've been ill for a few days and thought about not going but reading this thread convinced me - thanks guys! Highlights included stories about his cat, Poor Old Horse, when his guitar string broke halfway through The Vile Stuff and he ended up singing "In Dreams" instead with audience participation.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8654/16555073335_29d5b781a3_z.jpg
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:16 (ten years ago)
seandalai i had no idea he was playing cambridge. damn!
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 11:25 (ten years ago)
Joseph an 84/100 in carpentry? ridiculous.
― you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 March 2015 22:17 (ten years ago)
Saw him last night at Bethnal Green WMC. cannot remember being transfixed like that in an age. ghost of a tree…
― woof, Thursday, 14 May 2015 09:05 (ten years ago)
woah just announced playing in bristol next month with eek and islam chipsy
― nxd, Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:28 (nine years ago)
fuck fuck fuck are tickets on sale?
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 12 November 2015 16:55 (nine years ago)
yep, just £10http://musicglue.com/qu-junktions/events/12-dec-15-islam-chipsy--eek--richard-dawson--kit-wilmans-fegradoe--dave-howell-dj-arnolfini/
― nxd, Thursday, 12 November 2015 17:16 (nine years ago)
damn bit all to hell I can't go.... aaaaargh!!!
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 13 November 2015 01:26 (nine years ago)
http://thequietus.com/articles/22164-new-richard-dawson
so this is going to be the best album of the decade, then
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)
i don't like the new song as much as the stuff on the previous album, but i do like it.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:41 (eight years ago)
and he's playing bristol with a full band soon! whoop!
I just listened to it for the first time while walking through an abandoned rural village in blazing sunshine and now I am Woden himself
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:43 (eight years ago)
New sound is maybe a bit like if you took the old sound and added North Sea Radio Orchestra. It is deep imago.
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)
his guitar style seems to have mellowed a tad though..
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:48 (eight years ago)
Maybe for this song, but those background sonics, especially during the climax, my god...if that's mellowing...
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfaW-yD7DoA&
simpler times
― ogmor, Thursday, 6 April 2017 17:29 (eight years ago)
It's too much. I'm extremely emotional
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 6 April 2017 17:37 (eight years ago)
love this.
now for a rewatch of Be Glad for the Song Has No Ending.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 6 April 2017 17:44 (eight years ago)
http://thequietus.com/articles/22157-richard-dawson-peasant-interview-michael-hann
....aaaand the record was inspired by Hard To Be A God. Of COURSE :D
Wonderful interview - by one of ILX's own
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 6 April 2017 17:54 (eight years ago)
been in my head all weekend
― ogmor, Sunday, 9 April 2017 18:16 (eight years ago)
yep
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Sunday, 9 April 2017 18:17 (eight years ago)
this new song came up on Spotify, sounds a bit like peter hammill
― briscall stool chart (wins), Friday, 28 April 2017 18:25 (eight years ago)
Spent a big part of the weekend listening to Peasant. A real mind-boggler, album of the year contender for me.
― maarten, Sunday, 28 May 2017 14:56 (seven years ago)
I am excited & very ready for this
― ogmor, Thursday, 1 June 2017 13:47 (seven years ago)
this is better than i had dared hope
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:54 (seven years ago)
at some point during 'prostitute' the distinct sensation of music being broken and remade settled over me
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:55 (seven years ago)
Haha Richard Dawson's retweet of you has just hit my timeline.
― Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Friday, 2 June 2017 10:40 (seven years ago)
It was a like, not a retweet! Twitter has begun timelining likes haha
― imago, Friday, 2 June 2017 10:43 (seven years ago)
Waiting on mine from Norman but I have a couple of ordered in items before they ship.
― Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Friday, 2 June 2017 10:47 (seven years ago)
Definitely going to buy this as well but I couldn't wait to hear it
― imago, Friday, 2 June 2017 10:50 (seven years ago)
everyone kindly stop talking about the sodding arcade fire and start talking about this pls
― imago, Saturday, 3 June 2017 11:27 (seven years ago)
Regarding Dawson's guitar playing. Most of the time it's *reasonably* conventional. Relying often on the classic alternating bass thumb etc. I've barely heard Bailey or Orcutt but I'd imagine they are less structured
― Duke, Saturday, 3 June 2017 17:55 (seven years ago)
Was about to say the guitar playing reminds me a bit of some Incredible String Band tracks, something like "White Bird" perhaps.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 June 2017 18:05 (seven years ago)
He also plays a travel guitar with a short scale and strings downtuned, which gives him loads of string buzz
― Duke, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:16 (seven years ago)
So even when he's playing deft little melodies, it can sound slightly "wrong"
― Duke, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:18 (seven years ago)
this is quite a record. slicker & tighter with the band backing, frequently too camp and overripe for my taste, but it concentrates the power and he is undeniably at the top of his game. the way he rips through shapeshifter is amazing
― ogmor, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 09:26 (seven years ago)
digging 'ogre'
― nxd, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 10:43 (seven years ago)
while Ogre is astounding I hope you have since moved onto digging all of it, even the overripe bits (i.e. Masseuse, which was the only one I was unsure about but which has since settled nicely into my head for ever more)
― imago, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:38 (seven years ago)
let's pick up some floating Talk Talk enthusiasts (the ambient background sussurations and blurts here are as good as any on TT's last two records)
― imago, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:39 (seven years ago)
saw him in leeds on friday, slower & more dramatic than on the record & got so much heavier and fierce which sold me on tracks I hadn't been as keen on - scientist - and the likes of ogre & the vile stuff were overwhelming & awesome. just as charming & funny as I'd expected (& ofc everyone slightly giddy post election), he sang a mike waterson track a cappella & opened with the parents address to his firstborn song (the first RD track I loved), so he couldn't really have won me over any more (well I could have really gone for poor old horse but I need something to look fwd to next time). I've been discovering the magic bridge over the past few weeks too, which is a gorgeous album & right up my street
― ogmor, Sunday, 11 June 2017 11:22 (seven years ago)
a good friend of mine turned me onto Richard Dawson's music a couple weeks ago. he played me "Ogre" and then some 20 minute solo guitar & voice piece. didn't listen to him again for a week and then the end "Ogre" got stuck in my head one night ("when the sun is dying") so i got Peasant and it's amazing. makes XTC look like the MC5.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 05:12 (seven years ago)
seeing him in 2 days, couldn't be more excited
if this isn't album of the year then...someone else will have made a seriously great album
― imago, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 10:53 (seven years ago)
There's no such thing as 'album of the year'.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 11:14 (seven years ago)
being alone is
― ogmor, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 11:34 (seven years ago)
this is definitely one of the best things i've heard this year, Beggar especially is fantastic
― ufo, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 12:36 (seven years ago)
*my* album of the year ffs
― imago, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 13:00 (seven years ago)
Saw him on Saturday and I'm not convinced the full band works if I'm honest. Still tremendous though.
Can't remember the order but Scientist/Prostitute/Soldier/Weaver plus a version of The Cruel Ship's Carpenter in there somewhere, then closing with Ogre and The Vile Stuff.
Chat involved a fake electrocution, how John broke his guitar (but Richard wasn't going to make a big deal out it even though John broke his guitar), texts from Richard's dad and something about cats I don't remember.
― Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 13:09 (seven years ago)
has he toured the USA? would love to see him live this year
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 17:04 (seven years ago)
Yeah Im loving this. Some wyrd "A Field in England" vibes on some tracks. "Soldier" is one the best songs I've heard this year
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:26 (seven years ago)
soldier has such a comfortably-worn plodding weariness to it. played it v differently live, snarled and shouted his way through it. in general I thought he pulled the more progge elements off better live when the intensity of his performance could bear them better
― ogmor, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:52 (seven years ago)
good lord
― imago, Thursday, 22 June 2017 22:21 (seven years ago)
that was a tonic
i am tiredand i am afraid
― flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 01:42 (seven years ago)
A cross between..
Super furry animals, Comus and Ed Barton.
That's good, BTW.
― Mark G, Friday, 23 June 2017 06:10 (seven years ago)
Love it so far
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 23 June 2017 11:07 (seven years ago)
This guy makes me want to revisit Bob Drake, who I haven't listened to in years.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:01 (seven years ago)
I'm so in love with this album. Really feeling 'Weaver' and 'Beggar' today.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 June 2017 20:07 (seven years ago)
can't stop wondering about how the potato in shapeshifter got to bryneich/bernicia. it's such an odd line, is it deliberately anachronistic/anatopic?
― ogmor, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:28 (seven years ago)
there are a few deliberate anachronisms! like what's a collie doing in the dark ages
― imago, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:35 (seven years ago)
it's a better world he's made
the blurring of those times and these is like what paul kingsnorth was doing with his 'shadow tongue' in 'the wake', which i read concurrently to discovering this album, both complementing each other brilliantly
― imago, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:37 (seven years ago)
see also: the closing poem of m* n***l
― imago, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:39 (seven years ago)
but what is the significance of this potato?!
― ogmor, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:42 (seven years ago)
perhaps the shapeshifter is also able to shift the shape of objects, and it had been a humble apple beforehand. magic does what magic does iirc
― imago, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:45 (seven years ago)
the more i think about it the more deliciously puzzling the song is, but the potato is somehow what sends it over the top for me. the potato as a casual yet unsettling gesture to seal the deal after the shapeshifter has freed them. and the way he sings it of course.
― ogmor, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:59 (seven years ago)
everyone i've played "ogre" for says it sounds like polyphonic spree :(
― flappy bird, Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:07 (seven years ago)
Mmmm hmmmmm
― Mark G, Thursday, 6 July 2017 20:06 (seven years ago)
Yeeeah, this is good
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 14 July 2017 19:37 (seven years ago)
how good :p
― imago, Friday, 14 July 2017 19:45 (seven years ago)
I really wasn't sure to start with but then Ogre took over my inner jukebox and now I'm getting mildly obsessed
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 14 July 2017 20:10 (seven years ago)
In other words it's growing on me like a bastard. How does it compare with his older stuff?
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 14 July 2017 20:13 (seven years ago)
As good as the last album, i.e. as good as it fucken gets
― imago, Friday, 14 July 2017 20:25 (seven years ago)
late to the party but aoty
― devvvine, Sunday, 30 July 2017 14:52 (seven years ago)
obv
― imago, Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:37 (seven years ago)
imo a lot of people are going to be figuring where this fits into their decade list come december 2019
― imago, Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:42 (seven years ago)
Blame it on the 'shock of the new', or changing musical tastes, but I'm just not as impressed by this one as I was Nothing Important. Guess that last album hit me during my peak Wire-reading / free jazz listening / Derek Bailey celebrating phase, but this record, to me, feels safer and more flat-plan. I loved the lyrical sprawl of those longer songs, as well as the abstruse guitar playing. This feels more reined-in by comparison, but maybe I need to do some background reading here to get a better feel for what the songs are about and the concepts behind them.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 07:49 (seven years ago)
maybe I need to do some background reading here to get a better feel for what the songs are about and the concepts behind them.
Progge warning.
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 31 July 2017 08:09 (seven years ago)
Some of the weirdness and atonality has been delegated to other instrumentalists, but it's still there! It does have a more straight-folk vibe but that's a conscious aesthetic decision and I think it works beautifully - this record really brings out RD's amazing sense of melody and progression. Plus the arrangements are flat-out wonderful.
If forced at gunpoint to choose I'd probably still go with Nothing Important but they're both phenomenal IMO, he is the best songwriter going
― imago, Monday, 31 July 2017 08:32 (seven years ago)
I admired rather than enjoyed Nothing Important but Peasant has really struck a chord with me - that it's more melodic probably does help a lot. Definitely a highlight of 2017.
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 31 July 2017 08:59 (seven years ago)
"Soldier" is a fucking great song.
― flappy bird, Monday, 31 July 2017 18:04 (seven years ago)
Don't know much about this subgenre (British avant-folk?) but to me Dawson sounds like a less roots-anchored Robin Williamson – if we go by his later, ECM material. Anyway, I'm really enjoying this, especially the dirge-like 'Hob'.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)
There's nothing like it.
I like to roll out the North Sea Radio Orchestra comparisons, but that's mostly because that's the only other UK alt-folk-adjacent contemporary music I love this much. It's more chamber music than Dawson, who's in turn much more experimental. Peasant represents some kind of melodic rapprochement between the two though, perhaps
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:15 (seven years ago)
Was about to say the guitar playing reminds me a bit of some Incredible String Band tracks, something like "White Bird" perhaps.― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 June 2017 18:05 (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 June 2017 18:05 (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
... which is a Mike Heron track actually, though he's definitely more Robin Williamson. Not that I've heard enough of his material though, tbh.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:36 (seven years ago)
HEN OGLEDD
http://thequietus.com/articles/25272-hen-ogledd-problem-child-richard-dawson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O9BXeFm_yg
A spokesperson for the band says: "Each hailing from historically different tribal regions of the Old North, the musicians on Mogic challenge the idea that the ancient world was rife with magic, while the new is infiltrated by cold logic. The tracks on Mogic create new phantasmal blends of images and ideas that draw upon the mystical and technological. Mogic is a discombobulating pop prayer exploring artificial intelligence, witches, nanotechnology, pre-medieval history, robots, romance, computer games and waterfalls.
― imago, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:27 (six years ago)
"I live on a mountainThe only tall sculpture on this planetThe view is appalling"
Excellent song, excellent video.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:33 (six years ago)
this was certainly unexpected but it's very cool
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:41 (six years ago)
saw him live at a festival this year, was indeed something to behold, guy is brilliant
― niels, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:04 (six years ago)
for everyone who wished peasant sounded more like the super furry animals
― ogmor, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:10 (six years ago)
lmao this rules
― devvvine, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:56 (six years ago)
Bass reminds me of The Cure in parts. Unexpected, this. I like
― Duke, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 19:59 (six years ago)
If you're going to make lazy comparisons to other Welsh pop acts, make them to people who are actually excited to hear this album
‘I live on a mountain, the only tall sculpture on this planet. The view is appalling..’ YES @HOgledd https://t.co/yLCzA3rJi4— G W E N N O (@gwennosaunders) September 11, 2018
― imago, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 20:57 (six years ago)
actually, speaking of Welsh postpunk, the song it reminded me of most was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KquxHMQD1Z0
― imago, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 21:28 (six years ago)
GWENNO KIND OF QUOTED WHAT I QUOTED FIRST I AM MORE IN LOVE THAN I ALREADY WAS <333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 21:45 (six years ago)
Gwenno reads ILm, I am sure of it now. And that is alright.
Finally got around to Nothing Important. I think I like his sinister minimalist moods more than his whimsy, but then again 'Hob' was the highlight of Peasant for me.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 06:59 (six years ago)
hen ogledd album good-not-mindblowing, worth a listen though
― imago, Friday, 16 November 2018 14:52 (six years ago)
am now decided that weaver is the best track on peasant, so much range but moves through all these different moments with eerie smoothness, carried along by that slightly nervous, unsettled energy
― ogmor, Thursday, 18 April 2019 10:37 (six years ago)
I'm partial to 'Hob', for predictably temperamental reasons. I also happen to prefer the relative nihilism of Nothing Important, also for predictably temperamental reasons.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 18 April 2019 10:44 (six years ago)
I too prefer the best album of the decade to the third or fourth best album of the decade
Weaver was always one of the best tracks, as was Hob, as were all the others. I can barely talk about it
― imago, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:03 (six years ago)
springtime is dawson time
― ogmor, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:07 (six years ago)
i still have vivid memories of my first listen to Ogre, walking through a Surrey village en route to a lesson, on an extremely idyllic spring afternoon
― imago, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:08 (six years ago)
New track "Jogging", from forthcoming album 2020 (due October):https://youtu.be/UGiQ_-Ktpvc
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 1 August 2019 14:17 (five years ago)
!!
he's gone...rock!
― imago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 14:26 (five years ago)
Droll lyrics, as usual, but I'm underwhelmed by the song proper. Nothing Important was the peak imho.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 1 August 2019 14:28 (five years ago)
It was the peak of albums by anybody this decade, so
I mean I still like this and am intrigued by the album
― imago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 14:33 (five years ago)
did he get muse to do the arrangement? not really feeling this
― ufo, Thursday, 1 August 2019 14:34 (five years ago)
muse?!
yeah this is great
― imago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 15:08 (five years ago)
I must say, I prefer him when he's stripped down and dirty. Peasant felt too dense and painterly for me to be able to get into.
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 1 August 2019 15:24 (five years ago)
This is okay though.
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 1 August 2019 15:43 (five years ago)
actually this is really good with the video
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 1 August 2019 15:51 (five years ago)
about the third listen before I was fully this song's humble servant
― imago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 15:57 (five years ago)
have to admit the bathos of the last verse/chorus got me a bit choked up. I like this song. always helps to have the words to read along with I feel
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:10 (five years ago)
love it
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:13 (five years ago)
You are all mad. Peasant was his peak. This next album might better it.
― Duke, Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:35 (five years ago)
It will be something, that's for sure.
There's a limited-edition David Squires comic with the LP! Might have to get that...
― imago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:23 (five years ago)
I like the way it's somehow both specific and universal, and I also like the contrast between the surging rock chorus arrangement and the almost humdrumness of the words being sung over them. Plus, I'm just coming to the end of reading Jonathan Coe's Middle England, and - the direct lyrical parallel aside - the themes of both dovetail well. It articulates something which feels more contemporary and less past-referencing than other stuff I've heard of his, and Rock suits him better here than on the Hen Ogledd project, which didn't really do it for me.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:49 (five years ago)
agreed and nicely put
― imago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 21:14 (five years ago)
WOW
― tangenttangent, Thursday, 1 August 2019 22:08 (five years ago)
i think the song itself is fine but the rock arrangement is just so plodding and doesn't really work with his voice
― ufo, Thursday, 1 August 2019 22:51 (five years ago)
okay this on at least the best song I've heard oooh.. in the last day of not week. Nice one Dawso
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 2 August 2019 00:30 (five years ago)
is. I'm drunk
if. fml
dl otm :)
Great song, and re: mike t-diva, it's the specific that makes it universal. Loving this.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 August 2019 07:42 (five years ago)
I tried to listen to Peasant again and couldn't get into it. Maybe I need to read some of the lyrics, but it feels more like the work of a full and different band: a lot more traditional and folky? I'm starting to think Jogging is my favourite thing by him that I've heard
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 2 August 2019 09:08 (five years ago)
anyone else getting Super Furry Animals vibes off this too?
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 2 August 2019 09:09 (five years ago)
yeah the vocoders made me think of them, that's all though
― imago, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:32 (five years ago)
I always got a SFA vibe off him, so I can imagine this does.
Yep, good sentence that, sticking to it.
― Mark G, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:34 (five years ago)
Even the clean vox have a tinge of Gruff Rhys straining to them.
― pomenitul, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:34 (five years ago)
Then again, it's a NE accent, which (when some people try to imitate it) can end up sounding Welsh-ish.
― Mark G, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:38 (five years ago)
I don't think this song is up there with the best of Peasant. (After only a few listens). I tend to agree with ufo above that the heavyish arrangement is a little plodding. But I'm really looking forward to the album. He's one of my favourite people.
― Duke, Friday, 2 August 2019 15:48 (five years ago)
I've come to realise that 'anyway, will you sponsor me for my stupid run? its gonna do fuck all' is the ultimate message from this song.
the yellow hoodiethe England flagthe kids in their karate outfits
the whole. fucking. thing.
― frame casual (dog latin), Sunday, 4 August 2019 04:06 (five years ago)
I like this and it makes sense as a lead off single but I'm eager to hear more skronky folk jams like Weaver and Shapeshifter off the last album.
― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 August 2019 08:11 (five years ago)
― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Sunday, 4 August 2019 10:11
Exactly my thoughts.
― Duke, Sunday, 4 August 2019 12:28 (five years ago)
'there's no such thing as a quick fix'
― frame casual (dog latin), Sunday, 4 August 2019 12:35 (five years ago)
I'd never heard of this guy until I saw the Jogging video earlier. Loved it. Watched it three times. Teared up.
― del griffith, Monday, 5 August 2019 03:06 (five years ago)
you are in for a treat
― imago, Monday, 5 August 2019 08:07 (five years ago)
Agreed!!
― Duke, Monday, 5 August 2019 19:35 (five years ago)
I didn't think I liked the arrangement much but the lyrics have stuck with me since it was posted. Coming back for a second listen it's all sounding pretty great now.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 04:53 (five years ago)
I know I'm like Top Fan of this song, but I think the music really suits it. The opening heavy metal salvo is kind of a mocking tribute to Eye of the Tiger which gives away to that slightly clompy palm-muted rhythm. Makes me think of every time I've thought about jogging outside: that initial burst of inspiration quickly turning into mild disappointment at my own physical inabilities. And yeah, the robot voice bit provides some nice, light, maniacal relief.
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 08:32 (five years ago)
new one; much prefer this to jogging, which i'm yet to warm to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkSvn23fbAg
― devvvine, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 10:20 (five years ago)
Eh, the poppier his aspirations the more I struggle with his fanciful streak. I'll start caring again when he reverts back to the relative nihilism of Nothing Important.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 10:36 (five years ago)
While I do genuinely love Jogging, I agree. For the first time a new Dawson song that feels like self-parody to me, lyrically. I'd be fine with never hearing Two Halves again, and that's a first for me w/ Dawson.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 10:44 (five years ago)
Brace yourself for imago's beatdown!
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 10:46 (five years ago)
*joggs off*
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 10:49 (five years ago)
Best stop-motion interpretive dance of the year.
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:04 (five years ago)
yeah this is great but clearly you both need to marinate more
― imago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:05 (five years ago)
and retrospectively nominating this for the animated poll yeah
Prophetic.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 08:00 (five years ago)
Begrudgingly agreed :)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 08:06 (five years ago)
I thought Nothing Important was great but not nearly as much as a lot of you. Couldn't get into Peasant too much. But both of these singles have blown me away. I haven't heard anything prior to NI but this feels like a drastic but pretty awesome departure so far. I think I love these.
― gman59, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:38 (five years ago)
Nothing Important is probably least favourite release of his, oddly. Peasant blew me away. I'm also really looking forward to this album. The more Dawson the better
― Duke, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:27 (five years ago)
this is so great obv :)
jogging is just so amazing still
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 00:00 (five years ago)
hmm. it seems to frontload the best stuff
still good!
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 08:57 (five years ago)
'Fulfilment Centre' tho.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 09:30 (five years ago)
The entire Kurdish people have had a brick put through their kitchen window :(
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 10:00 (five years ago)
Can't really think of another musician who so accurately captures what it's like to live in our world right now.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:41 (five years ago)
I was just thinking, prompted by his calling a track heart emoji, that there's a similar eye for the details of contemporary pains on the superb default genders album (aoty)
― ogmor, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:18 (five years ago)
will have to check it out
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:54 (five years ago)
Wherein he reveals his favourite albums:
https://thequietus.com/articles/27269-richard-dawson-interview-favourite-music
― pomenitul, Monday, 14 October 2019 09:14 (five years ago)
that is one of the most interesting and 'not heard; better check' bakers dozens ever. dicky daws is the coolest man alive
― imago, Monday, 14 October 2019 09:42 (five years ago)
I've got a holy trinity of music, which is Eliane Radigue, Sun Ra and Circle. I could happily lose everything else and I think I'd be ok.
<333
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 14 October 2019 10:30 (five years ago)
I'm in two minds about this album. Much as I love Richard Dawson's work, I always appreciate it best when I'm reading the lyrics along with the music and that's why watching the video for 'Jogging' works so well. I'm not sure how well this works as something I can just play and enjoy without the lyric sheet. Enjoying the way each song is a little short story in itself, like a mini Mike Leigh movie. But as with so many writers of short stories, he has a tendency to rely on the same tricks, and occasionally condescends in a 'look at these poor souls and their rough lives' kind of way.Opener, 'Civil Servant', aims for the same levels of kitchen-sink bathos as 'Jogging', supplementing the 'British Red Cross' for 'Call of Duty'. But the story of the beleagured council worker lacks 'Jogging''s subtelty, and strays into uncharacteristically sith-form angstiness.More interesting are 'Two Halves' (in which a young foootball player worries about failing in front of his pushy father), and 'Heart Emoji', in which the creeping, ponderous music mimics the murderous thoughts of the song's jilted lover.
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 14 October 2019 10:35 (five years ago)
*sixth-form, not sith. That would be interesting and very Dawson
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 14 October 2019 10:39 (five years ago)
yeah as I said, this album isn't nearly as good as the last two, but Jogging is absolutely incredible and I also really love Civil Servant
― imago, Monday, 14 October 2019 10:41 (five years ago)
i'm finding the new record quite difficult so far, his lyrics and sense of melody seem as great as ever but the arrangements and musical palette can feel quite odd and it's not as rich and full-sounding as peasant. some of it is very plodding and i'm not really into the dissonant stabbing. i don't really expect to love it as much as peasant but i hope it'll open up more to me
are his pre-nothing important records worth checking out btw? i'm just realising that i've never really heard anyone mention them much ever
― ufo, Monday, 14 October 2019 10:45 (five years ago)
they are. 'the magic bridge' has some amazing playing (and it has 'black dog in the sky' on it ffs) and 'the glass trunk' has some truly wonderful a cappella songs that showcase his voice and storytelling powers
― imago, Monday, 14 October 2019 10:50 (five years ago)
I would like to give Peasant another go. I need to read along with it I guess
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 14 October 2019 11:18 (five years ago)
What imago says xpost. The Magic Bridge is amazing. Black Dog..., Wooden Bag and We Picked Apple's... are some of his best songs.
― Duke, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:38 (five years ago)
On second listen of the new one. Enjoying it. But it's no match for Peasant. So far.
― Duke, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:40 (five years ago)
I'm enjoying it more too. I'm wondering if I'd like it a bit more if Civil Servant had been left off though. I guess it works as a nice scene-setter, but lyrically it doesn't do anything more than Jogging and Fulfilment Centre already do a lot better
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:30 (five years ago)
has one of the strongest melodies on the album though
― imago, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:32 (five years ago)
I find the 'I refuse refuse refuse!' bit a bit cringey though eeeeh... and it is a strong melody but Dawson's vocals are just a bit much
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:35 (five years ago)
digging into this properly. come fully round on jogging with how the album kinda repurposes pub rock and shitty synth effects. black triangle by far the standout for me.
― devvvine, Friday, 18 October 2019 11:46 (five years ago)
not a patch on peasant tho
indeed. he did a reddit AMA the other night, need to read that
― imago, Friday, 18 October 2019 11:47 (five years ago)
"Civil Servant" is hilarious. I must check this album out
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Friday, 18 October 2019 11:49 (five years ago)
think the less overtly 'state of the nation'-y parts are its strongest. was expecting a dawson song titled freshers ball to be too real, fortunately hit pretty hard in a different way
― devvvine, Friday, 18 October 2019 11:57 (five years ago)
from the ama re black triangle
the whole ufo sighting was something that really happened to me and my pal neil. the song is completely as it happened right up to the point where neil lives in a barn conversion. so even though it uses this experience, it's not about me........
― devvvine, Friday, 18 October 2019 12:11 (five years ago)
― charlie h, Friday, January 30, 2015 8:33 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:52 (five years ago)
vile stuff really is the best song ever made, isn't it?
― devvvine, Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:43 (five years ago)
What a crazy selection of favorite albums, there were two on there I couldn't even find online (and not the one he said you can't find online).
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:44 (five years ago)
― devvvine, Sunday, October 20, 2019 2:43 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
its a close-run thing with 'nothing important' but yeah
― imago, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:40 (five years ago)
I voted for Person Pitch. That and Feels are fading for me but still like them very much.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Sunday, 20 October 2019 20:34 (five years ago)
Love the images!
lol I doubt either of his first two albums will place.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 October 2019 20:35 (five years ago)
if dicky dawson doesn't double-up come the 10's poll then i'm banning everyone
― imago, Sunday, 20 October 2019 20:37 (five years ago)
Hah. It's been a long weekend...
(Agree The Vile Stuff is damn well perfect.)
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Sunday, 20 October 2019 20:38 (five years ago)
Worth a read:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/26/richard-dawson-king-of-uneasy-listening-2020-album-interview
― Duke, Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:37 (five years ago)
Reveals he has begun work on the next album
ty for that! don't remotely agree with the guardian framing this as his breakout masterpiece though
― imago, Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:44 (five years ago)
Yeah, for me that was Peasant, which must have significantly widened his audience. But 2020 seems to be getting even more mainstream attention.
― Duke, Sunday, 27 October 2019 13:51 (five years ago)
while NI is probably my favourite album of the decade, i can fully buy Peasant as his breakout moment yeah. mainstream is always slow to pick up on these things but RYM and the wider nerd community got on board at Peasant
― imago, Sunday, 27 October 2019 14:41 (five years ago)
imo peasant sounds way more accessible than the nu one
― devvvine, Sunday, 27 October 2019 16:07 (five years ago)
Crazy talk. The new one is may more accessible on several levels (not leats that's it's way easier to identify with totally relatable stories about people who live now versus people who lived 1400 years ago, never mind tunes and arrangements), and is totally the breakout record. Peasant is the one that hinted a breakout was possible, but it didn't go over the parapet.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:05 (five years ago)
Yeah, lots of people (my boss included) seem to be very familiar with Jogging. It's been getting a lot of Radio 6 airplay whereas I think Peasant was really a cult thing
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:21 (five years ago)
i meant purely the arrangements and how it sounds, the ugliness of how jogging sounds compared to a song like weaver. not denying the the hooks and lyrics are more accessible.
― devvvine, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:47 (five years ago)
working from a base of what wld my mum prefer so good chance i am talking nonsense
― devvvine, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:49 (five years ago)
Shades of how my other Favourite Current Artist, Weyes Blood, had to release three incredible albums in a row before the powers that be really caught on. (And as with Dawson, the one that pushed her over the edge might not be her best, although in her case it's much more arguable)
― imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 17:03 (five years ago)
Finally got a copy of Nothing Important yesterday, bought direct from Domino after reconciling myself to the fact that it will A: never be cheap online and B: never be in stock in my local HMV again.
So apart from The Vile Stuff it all sounds basically like unlistenable improvised torture to me right now, but HOLY SHIT I've listened to The Vile Stuff about 6 times in a row and WTF
What's it doing?! It's a 16-minute raga about a school trip that somehow finds a level of emotional intensity that is completely unwarranted. It makes Venus In Furs sound like Scouting For Girls. It makes a lyric about Newcastle United wallpaper sound like something occult.
Wow.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 1 November 2019 10:00 (five years ago)
It's a brilliant song. The bit about him spacing out and having visions as he stares at his Newcastle United poster is something else
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 1 November 2019 10:05 (five years ago)
He has a visual disability that brings such visions about
Wait until the title-track clicks...
― imago, Friday, 1 November 2019 10:10 (five years ago)
I must admit that, as much as I enjoy Dawson's music and Nothing Important in particular, there's a dare I say cultural barrier that will never dissolve completely.
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 November 2019 10:13 (five years ago)
Kitchen sink mysticism ftw.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 1 November 2019 10:15 (five years ago)
xp Is that barrier not what makes it all the more compelling and appealing? For me it is tbf.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 November 2019 10:16 (five years ago)
Up to a point. Then again, I'm not much of an anglophile – anglo-agnostic is probably a better descriptor.
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 November 2019 10:20 (five years ago)
omg
https://thequietus.com/articles/17205-richard-dawson-interview-2
"Dawson hides his intent in plain sight, threading his lyrics with plenty of clues. The assailant outside the chip shop (Thadeus); the lad who cracks his head open (Peter); the pupil who “fills a Reebok Pump with the pulp from his belly” (Simon) and the object of his affections (Bartholomew); the lad who gobs at the narrator (Matthew); his neighbour who “lost two fingers to a Staffie-cross” (Andrew) who works at a no win no fee solicitors (James and James) and even the brand of screwdriver he injures himself with (Philip) are all the names of Christ’s apostles. (He hides his intent elsewhere as well. The two instrumental tracks on the album are called ‘Doubting Thomas’ and ‘Judas Iscariot’.)"
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 1 November 2019 11:01 (five years ago)
xp Aren't we all in a way? :) (I hear you though)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 November 2019 11:23 (five years ago)
xp [eric wareheim exploding head gif]
― devvvine, Friday, 1 November 2019 11:29 (five years ago)
Most of it just reminds me of Half Man Half Biscuit.
― fetter, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:06 (five years ago)
the other great uk folk-rock act of our time, but there's a distinct spirit
― imago, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:17 (five years ago)
The potato line in Shapeshifter is bugging me. They weren't introduced to the UK until 1586 or whenever, so how is one in this song. I have tried googling "Richard Dawson potato" to no avail of an explanation from the author.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 4 November 2019 13:45 (five years ago)
he did explain it somewhere - elements from all time periods are included by design. 'prostitute' has a prominent synth part!
― imago, Monday, 4 November 2019 13:54 (five years ago)
Poet(ato)ic licence.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 13:55 (five years ago)
Shapeshifters have also yet to be introduced to the UK
― ogmor, Monday, 4 November 2019 13:56 (five years ago)
That's what you think.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 15:41 (five years ago)
They've been on the throne since the turn of the 18th century surely?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 15:51 (five years ago)
One's prime minister right now.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:10 (five years ago)
giving his 2005 debut album a listen for the first time. found it in a charity shop for 50p a couple of years back and hadn't ever got round to playing it before. it's not especially good tbh, mildly eccentric in places but nowhere near as daring as what was to come. probably one for the sale pile i think.
― the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 23:29 (five years ago)
Part of me would love to hear it. But I know he's disowned it, so the other half of me wants to respect that.
― Duke, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 23:35 (five years ago)
happy to share wavs or whatever if anyone is desperate
― the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 23:39 (five years ago)
God I thought I was on the politics thread for a bit and we were talking about Boris Johnson. I need sleep
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:36 (five years ago)
saw him at the moth club earlier in the week. all the live versions very much more potent than anything on record. (i like the records but this was something else). the song the almsgiver, which i hadn’t heard before, was where the gig really built into something wonderful for me. god you get some pricks at gigs tho. chuckling away at his righteous anger or expressions of sentiment and pathos. anyway it was excellent and made me want to go and see him again as soon as possible
― Fizzles, Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:24 (five years ago)
I'd love to see him again live. Such an amazing performer and an all-round great, compassionate, funny guy.
― Duke, Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:46 (five years ago)
This is his next London show I think: https://www.barbican.org.uk/whats-on/2020/event/richard-dawson-delight-is-right
― john cage fighter (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:03 (five years ago)
Yeah he's touring the UK. Fingers crossed he comes to Berlin
― Duke, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:21 (five years ago)
2020 is really connecting for me in a way the previous ones never quite did
― Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 19:05 (five years ago)
I bought it and listened to it a few times. I feel a little bit like I'm rewatching a stand up routine sometimes though, as in the novelty of the storytelling wears off after a few listens.
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:31 (five years ago)
I still think Jogging is absolutely transcendent though
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:32 (five years ago)
yeah that might end up topping my tracks ballot
― Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 19:35 (five years ago)
I bought it and listened to it a few times. I feel a little bit like I'm rewatching a stand up routine sometimes though, as in the novelty of the storytelling wears off after a few listens.― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:31
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:31
Crazy talk. It's not as good as Peasant but still amazing. One of my top five of the year.
― Duke, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:37 (five years ago)
I read the lyric sheet as I listened to it the first time, so in a way that kind of revealed everything in one go. in a way I wish I'd listened to it a few times before doing that. the music is great of course, but sometimes I feel like I'm listening to tone poems, the music arranged around the words, which in itself isn't a problem but at times it feels like I could be reading a book of short stories. and once you know the twist in the tale, the impact is lessened. it's also a fairly depressing album. don't get me wrong, it's very much an amazing album. I just don't find myself willing to replay it very often
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:47 (five years ago)
He certainly has an odd way of scanning his lyrics, which sometimes leads to crammed sentences.
― Duke, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:55 (five years ago)
this is finally clicking hard for me, or at least six of its ten tracks are. if it was just
Civil ServantThe Queen's Head Two Halves JoggingBlack TriangleFulfillment Centre
then it'd be up there with the others, but there's a slightly scrawny tail on this beast
Black Triangle especially is such a wonderful song and I've only just realised it - although Jogging remains the crown jewel
― imago, Monday, 16 December 2019 07:52 (five years ago)
For me the keepers so far are Jogging, Heart Emoji and maybe Two Halves, Fresher's Ball and Fulfilment Centre.
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 16 December 2019 10:38 (five years ago)
"Dead Dog..." is one of my favorites!
― Simon H., Monday, 16 December 2019 13:53 (five years ago)
Civil Servant is the only sub par song on this, IMO
― Duke, Monday, 16 December 2019 15:29 (five years ago)
nitsuh's thing in the nyt was great - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/11/magazine/best-songs.html#richarddawson
― just sayin, Thursday, 19 March 2020 05:19 (five years ago)
Nabisco otm
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 19 March 2020 09:09 (five years ago)
I was supposed to be seeing him live in a few weeks. I'll just have to be patient...
― Duke, Thursday, 19 March 2020 18:57 (five years ago)
he and his partner are attempting to make a mini-album every day
https://bulbils.bandcamp.com/music
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:35 (five years ago)
oh awesome
― devvvine, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:37 (five years ago)
I was meant to be seeing him tonight. Mini-albums, you say? That'll cushion the blow, nice.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:59 (five years ago)
now everyone in the UK is out running every evening, Jogging is even more prescient
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:11 (five years ago)
Thanks for this !
― Duke, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:51 (five years ago)
so far it's all fairly ambient, but Mole (track 2 off the 3rd release) is a lovely standout with a bit more going on
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Friday, 27 March 2020 16:05 (five years ago)
Today's long-form track, The Easter Bunny, is the first one since Mole that's properly grabbed me. A huge organ-and-guitar ambient wordless ballad
https://bulbils.bandcamp.com/album/15-the-easter-bunny
― ban laggy jazzer (imago), Thursday, 9 April 2020 09:29 (five years ago)
oh yeah this is real lovely, thanks for shouting it out
― devvvine, Thursday, 9 April 2020 09:42 (five years ago)
I must have listened to it at least 15 times since lj tipped me off y'day in teh slack. It's sermon for our elegiac times, an intimate, pastoral masterpiece.
Sonically the piece evolves into what sounds like the coda of A Silver Mount Zion's '13 Angels Standing Guard 'round the Side of Your Bed', a soft murmury wailing from the after life, mantra wise. To me it sounds crazy hopeful.
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 April 2020 09:33 (five years ago)
particularly after Dawson put the finishing touches on an album he’s been working on with brilliant Finnish metal outfit Circle
― imago, Friday, 8 May 2020 10:21 (five years ago)
lol just came here to post that
https://thequietus.com/articles/28221-richard-dawson-sally-pilkington-bulbils-interview
― devvvine, Friday, 8 May 2020 10:22 (five years ago)
also of note imo
http://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/28221/20200405_181053_001_1588782312_crop_550x412.jpg
― devvvine, Friday, 8 May 2020 10:23 (five years ago)
otm
― imago, Friday, 8 May 2020 10:35 (five years ago)
Bless 'em. Their corpulent output has been too vast to digest in full, but a number of the Bulbis releases really hit the spot. Most notably, ty LJ, 'The Easter Bunny', a hymn for our times and then some.
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 8 May 2020 11:05 (five years ago)
Mole (off album 3), The Easter Bunny (15) and The Princess And The Frog (25) are the three standouts so far imo
― imago, Friday, 8 May 2020 11:06 (five years ago)
The element with Circle doesn’t feel so sad because I think we’ll get to it and it’ll be even better for it, so that’ll be good, but yeah, we didn’t get to play with Hannah Diamond.
need that dawson/diamond link up at some point
― devvvine, Friday, 8 May 2020 11:09 (five years ago)
More standouts:
Cherries (35)
and now Genie In A Bottle (40, just released) is sounding amazing too
― imago, Monday, 1 June 2020 20:15 (four years ago)
We're at #45 today, 'Darling', and it's aquatic ambient bliss. Cannot respect him and his wife enough for this extremely vast output. And it's free, people! Though he'd prefer it if you donate to Black Lives Matter, as per his Bandcamp.
The project is already of an intimidating size, I realise this, but more people need to hear the greatness of this massive project he's quitely building.
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 26 June 2020 17:40 (four years ago)
I was wondering if this was still going!
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 26 June 2020 17:42 (four years ago)
new album of odds n ends and some lockdown recordings
https://richardmichaeldawson.bandcamp.com/
― devvvine, Friday, 7 August 2020 11:11 (four years ago)
o nice, will listen soon
― imago, Friday, 7 August 2020 11:59 (four years ago)
very lovely, shorter instrumental pieces really hit the spot in this heat. the fifteen minute track feels like it could have gone on nothing important
― devvvine, Friday, 7 August 2020 12:06 (four years ago)
i mean that would put it in the upper thousandth percentile of songs by anyone ever so
― imago, Friday, 7 August 2020 12:59 (four years ago)
this is wonderful. is it just me or has his singing improved somewhat? I guess recording an EP a day or whatever could do that.
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:30 (four years ago)
awwww his little Newcastle United anthem is so dear
― imago, Friday, 7 August 2020 21:56 (four years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL75N1NMIdg
the first single 'Trouble' was a total earworm too, think this will be better than the first one
― imago, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 14:41 (four years ago)
lol the track sandwiched between the two singles on the album is actually titled 'Earworm', aiming high
2020 truly is the year of incredibly long albums huh
j/k I'm stoked for this
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:06 (four years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/sep/25/songs-about-sewage-and-space-travel-its-prog-folk-band-hen-ogledd
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 25 September 2020 12:14 (four years ago)
the new Hen Ogledd album is an absolute delight!!!!!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:21 (four years ago)
I'm enjoying the new one too. The last one was ok - a bit frontloaded qualitywise.
― Duke, Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:06 (four years ago)
It's fine. Some nice moments. Far too much Bothwell, who's quite annoying (although Trouble is good)
― Chip-vill-A (imago), Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:07 (four years ago)
I wonder when he's going to release the album with Circle.
― Duke, Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:25 (four years ago)
It’s way too twee for me. Dawson lockdown bandcamp daily is where it’s at.
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:48 (four years ago)
https://www.nts.live/shows/richard-dawson
― just sayin, Sunday, 1 August 2021 21:08 (three years ago)
new collaborative album with finnish experimental band circle out november 26, titled henki. it's apparently a "hypno-folk-metal" concept album about "special plants throughout history"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO_FzRjmXiY
lead single "lily" is less awkward than a lot of the last album but doesn't really do much for me
― ufo, Monday, 13 September 2021 14:02 (three years ago)
i quite like it, but the artwork is stunning
― nxd, Monday, 20 September 2021 15:41 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nly2TwK4tio
oh i like this much more
― ufo, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:00 (three years ago)
What do we think
I vacillate between 'good' and 'could have been better' on my first listen
― imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:48 (three years ago)
Closing track tho
― imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 13:06 (three years ago)
I hope to buy this locally later.
― Duke, Friday, 26 November 2021 17:33 (three years ago)
solid, covering similarish ground to the last album but much improved
― ufo, Friday, 26 November 2021 21:39 (three years ago)
I had been observing him from afar and I can say this works well for me as an introduction. The krautrock is unobtrusive and gives a solid foundation for his chanting and falsetto, I like how expansive this is, good collaboration. I was listening to late career Robert Wyatt and also early Genesis the other day and this is totally in line, thanks to the piano touches and the songwriting in different parts / playing with different voice levels. Methuselah and Lily especially could be on Nursery Cryme or Selling England. Sounds great as a revival, if it was the intention.
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 08:45 (three years ago)
Add Pitcher
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 08:48 (three years ago)
Maybe it’s just fated that this would be my favourite thing Dawson has done - just to frustrate and perplex imago.
It really is great though.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 09:00 (three years ago)
Hey I still really do like it! It feels to me like there's not quite enough Circle until Pitcher, but the flipside of that is plenty of Dawson
― imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 09:34 (three years ago)
https://thequietus.com/articles/30858-circle-richard-dawson-interview
interview suggests the collaboration is likely to be continuing beyond this, with circle calling dawson their new lead singer & everything, they seem extremely enthusiastic about it all
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 09:48 (three years ago)
having circle as his backing band makes him going rock & really indulging his prog tendencies work so much better than on 2020, they're a really good fit. i'm revisiting 2020 and it still doesn't really move me - the songs are fine but the arrangements are so clunky
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:01 (three years ago)
That's cool! Very exciting and I'm certain it will produce brilliant music. Great interview and write-up too
I sort of agree that this album's instrumentation suits his rock/prog choices better overall, although 2020 got the songwriting absolutely spot on at times - and hey, Black Triangle did the heavy rock thing superbly!
― imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:04 (three years ago)
love thisivy is a banger
― nxd, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:46 (three years ago)
Still haven't heard this, my copy apparently won't arrive for another few weeks, but love the positive reception so far. Coming from this as a Circle fan might be interesting, I've only checked out a few Dawson songs in the past (fine, but he never fully clicked for me). I'm happy about whatever brings Circle back out of (relative) slumber and gets them excited again.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:40 (three years ago)
the one downside of dawson going full prog rock with circle is that it's not quite as distinct and singular as his previous work, and so something is lost there (i certainly still prefer peasant), but the results here are still very very good
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 08:30 (three years ago)
Nothing Important and Peasant both sui generis masterpieces ofc yes and both in my top 3 albums of the previous decade, but losing that guitar was like losing a limb - he has adapted really well, but...at least we got what we did get
― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 08:46 (three years ago)
yeah absolutely
there's still a little of the guitar but it's a shame there's not more
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 08:57 (three years ago)
i mean the specific guitar he made those two albums on. someone literally broke it beyond repair while he was touring Peasant and he took it as a cosmic sign and pivoted
― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 09:06 (three years ago)
Isn't there a little bit of myth-making here with this unique guitar story.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 09:19 (three years ago)
I wouldn't say so. I've heard it from his own mouth that the strange sounds he got out of it inspired his playing style, and that style has been notable for its absence ever since
― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 09:29 (three years ago)
idk he's still very much working in that style on 2020 even if the sound is a bit different
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 09:43 (three years ago)
I havent been able to get this. My local shop has problems getting it delivered
― Duke, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 12:25 (three years ago)
time to crack out the ol' internet streaming imo
― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 12:27 (three years ago)
What guitar do you mean? The travel sized acoustic? It was already pretty beaten up
― Duke, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 12:50 (three years ago)
Yeah but it wasn't literally demolished by a careless band mate, and its weird acoustics were very much his muse
― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:05 (three years ago)
As a follow to this project up I'm hoping Jussi and Richard swap names and tour as Richard Dawson (Ex-Jussi Lehitsalo) and Jussi Lehtisalo (Ex-Richard Dawson).
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:36 (three years ago)
Sally gonna have to swap identities with Jussi's partner to prevent awkwardness imo
― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 14:04 (three years ago)
xp - lol Noel, wouldn't surprise me
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 14:47 (three years ago)
What guitar do you mean? The travel sized acoustic? It was already pretty beaten up― Duke, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:50 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglinkYeah but it wasn't literally demolished by a careless band mate, and its weird acoustics were very much his muse― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 14:05
― Duke, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:50 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 14:05
True. But I was always impressed by the huge chunk missing from the lower bout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-9osMKSyb0
― Duke, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 23:13 (three years ago)
This is great. Ivy. Methusalah. Pitcher.
I really hope to see them live. I had tickets to a Dawson gig that was cancelled because of covid. I've only seen him solo (which was lovely of course) and would love to catch a full band show.
― Duke, Monday, 6 December 2021 21:31 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUQCBKyS-Y
― Duke, Monday, 6 December 2021 21:49 (three years ago)
Ah. That doesn't work here. A video of his Barbican gig from last year. The audio sounds a little glitchy to me, but you may have a better experience
― Duke, Monday, 6 December 2021 21:50 (three years ago)
seeing him live tonight has helped me appreciate some of the material off 2020 anew - he played all the tracks I'm not so keen on (Heart Emoji, Dead Dog, Freshers' Ball) solo with an electric guitar and they were SO much better. he was also v much in the mood for skronk, even with a new guitar - he seems to have found one that brings the old magic back. brilliant set - everything was reinterpreted, emphases in different places, even more barely-in-control than usual. Ogre brought the house down
― imago, Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:19 (three years ago)
Just back from the Dawson/Circle show which was great but the highlight was a full-pelt canter through Echo Beach as a tribute to Big Jeff Johns.
― Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Monday, 11 July 2022 00:07 (two years ago)
Prepare thyselves for...the future
https://richardmichaeldawson.bandcamp.com/album/the-ruby-cord
Apparently the opening track is 40 minutes long. Can you even imagine
― imago, Thursday, 6 October 2022 10:41 (two years ago)
ah, this is his aerial
― ufo, Thursday, 6 October 2022 11:03 (two years ago)
haha yes
― imago, Thursday, 6 October 2022 11:27 (two years ago)
i sure hope he pulls it off
― ufo, Thursday, 6 October 2022 12:16 (two years ago)
Haha so excited for this!
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:24 (two years ago)
Can't wait to hear this
― Duke, Monday, 10 October 2022 15:39 (two years ago)
"the hermit" is pretty tremendous
― ufo, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:21 (two years ago)
yeah but have you heard The Tip Of An Arrow
thermonuclear challop: this album is if anything backloaded
― imago, Friday, 18 November 2022 02:02 (two years ago)
The last track is quite earworm-y. It's still cycling through my head after a couple hours of silence!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 18 November 2022 02:53 (two years ago)
yeah the whole album is excellent
looking forward to "the hermit" winning the eoy poll and annoying everyone - if "jogging" got to #3 there's no reason it can't do better and it is the single
― ufo, Friday, 18 November 2022 04:16 (two years ago)
I've not listened to the new one yet - saving it for the weekend.
He was on Adam Buxton's podcast (not listened to this, either): https://play.acast.com/s/adambuxton/ep194-richard-dawson
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 18 November 2022 09:50 (two years ago)
Okay on the second go around The Hermit is really quite something isn't it
― imago, Friday, 18 November 2022 10:30 (two years ago)
Only listened to The Hermit so far but yeah incredible. The coda (I guess? Bit long for a coda maybe, idk the final 'tiny cobles' section) had me hypnotised.
― woof, Friday, 18 November 2022 11:40 (two years ago)
thermonuclear challop: this album is if anything _backloaded_
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Friday, 18 November 2022 13:23 (two years ago)
I wasn't. The Fool onwards is perfection
― imago, Friday, 18 November 2022 14:04 (two years ago)
or at least, close to it
― imago, Friday, 18 November 2022 14:09 (two years ago)
seems like a big improvement on 2020. which i found much of fairly flat. lyrically, the move toward the ambiguous, disparate and unresolved is the right one. the 'short stories' on 2020 were far too neat, far too precise. glad he's returned the mystery to his work and understood that it would be false to try to communicate transparently something broken.
― devvvine, Friday, 18 November 2022 15:45 (two years ago)
I was lucky to get a ticket to see The Hermit film screened this week, it was a deeply moving and affecting piece. Afterwards, Richard was deliberately very evasive about explaining or peeling back any layers. Which had the entirely correct result of leaving you to take it away as your own personal and private experience. Hopefully it'll make its way online at some point.
― matt h, Friday, 18 November 2022 16:04 (two years ago)
i think the film is being released online on tuesday
― ufo, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:18 (two years ago)
really love the way the last section of "museum" reproduces the central trick from "the rip"
― ufo, Saturday, 19 November 2022 07:37 (two years ago)
^an astute observation that some fella made in the RYM shoutbox yesterday
https://i.ibb.co/MBDZDgT/Screenshot-20221119-075224.jpg
― imago, Saturday, 19 November 2022 07:52 (two years ago)
But yeah, this album isn't so much a return to folk as it is a dramatic expansion upon his pop adventures using the grammar of ensemble folk. While it is an improvement on 2020 it couldn't have been made without it
― imago, Saturday, 19 November 2022 08:30 (two years ago)
to me this one's an meditative and extensive expansion of peasant - very organically incorporating some of the sounds of 2020 and the hen ogledd albums into his folk. a sort of culmination
still have no real idea what the lyrics on this one are about for the most part (except "museum" is pretty obvious) and there aren't great transcriptions out there yet
― ufo, Saturday, 19 November 2022 09:08 (two years ago)
there seems to be a lot about virtual reality and simulated existence, synthesised with a sort of primeval external life (and occasionally overlapping) - some heady retrofuturistic brew, utterly brilliant obv
― imago, Saturday, 19 November 2022 11:09 (two years ago)
The Fool may be the single most beautiful thing he’s ever written, weeping over here
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Monday, 21 November 2022 23:40 (two years ago)
I got to see a screening of The Hermit last week. Loved it.
On first listens I instinctively agree this album is better than 2020. I've not digested it at all lyrically and am looking forward to getting to know it better.
― Duke, Sunday, 27 November 2022 15:45 (two years ago)
Just stumbled on a note that Drag City is reissuing the first two Hen Ogledd albums early next year.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 22:35 (two years ago)
Okay, just finished my first listen to "The Hermit", taking a break for a bit, but you guys are telling me the rest of the album is even better?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:12 (two years ago)
arguably
― imago, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:14 (two years ago)
I mean, if it even just matches the quality of "The Hermit", it'll still likely be one of my favorite albums of the year.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:22 (two years ago)
great album. i love this guy but haven't done a great job of keeping up with all his various releases
― na (NA), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:57 (two years ago)
This really is great, impressed that it maintained that level of quality throughout. I wouldn't mind more work with Circle too, seems like that might have been more than just a one off. But just happy to have this new one for right now.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:08 (two years ago)
Great Aquarium Drunkard interview with him.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 December 2022 15:49 (two years ago)
his account is protected so i won't bother to link the tweet, but David Flipping Sylvian has just written:
richard dawson will be, if he's not already, a national treasure. with occasional hints of wyatt, there's no one else writing anything like him. this album, less strident than others, is quite breathtaking.
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 11 December 2022 23:05 (two years ago)
does anyone want a single ticket for the show this thursday 3/30 at union pool in brooklyn? i bought one not realizing i already had tickets for sunset rubdown at the bowery ballroom happening at the same time and so i've had to make a choice.
anyway i guess preference will go to whoever responds soonest who is interested? the ticket is in the DICE app
― blue6ave, Monday, 27 March 2023 16:20 (two years ago)
man I would love to see him, especially on one of these shows he's playing with Pigs x7 (what a combo!), but it's a pretty small tour.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 March 2023 19:26 (two years ago)
great show tonight. charmingly digressive between songs. hadn't realized this is his first visit to North America.
― bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 02:47 (two years ago)
still giving a ticket away for thursday in brooklyn if anybody is interested which is painful for me but i've committed to the other show damn me!
― blue6ave, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 04:13 (two years ago)
I've got a ticket, but have a friend who would love to go, if you still have.
― bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 12:18 (two years ago)
If there's anyone on here who's been listening to and thinking about The Ruby Cord all year long, as I have, I'm putting together a small "roundtable" thing that'll mostly be focused on the lyrics. The words on the album are so beautiful, the stories so good, but I've seen hardly any discussion or analysis of actual details of the lyrics -- and what I *have* seen is usually remarkably different from how I understand things myself. I've read about four or five summaries of The Tip of an Arrow and each one has a different take on the ending. I started thinking that it might be fun to gather some Ruby Cord diehards together and use a messaging app to really go in-depth about things. (And at the end I would shape the talks slightly into some kind of "Ruby Cord Roundtable: song by song" series and post it on a tiny, effectively no-readership music site of mine, just so that it doesn't all completely vanish into the aether.) If this sounds like the kind of thing you'd enjoy, send a message!
― TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 00:01 (one year ago)
And another (sort of) Circle collaboration is one the way! Jussi and Tomi from Circle have released two albums as Mahti, where they've teamed up with Hannu Saha, a traditional Finnish folk musician. Both albums are beautiful and well worth checking out, gorgeous cover art too.
Anyway, a third Mahti record is coming soon and they've added Richard to the group, as well as Sally Pilkington.
https://mahtifinland.bandcamp.com/album/musiikki-1
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:32 (one year ago)
Phenomenal news! Even if the two are joining more as "Bulbils" than as "Dawson & Pilkington, songwriters of Hen Ogledd," that's still one hell of an addition. Obviously. Bulbils rule the world.
― TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:34 (one year ago)
I failed to take that Roundtable very far (though thanx for playing along, imago), but closing on two years since release, The Ruby Cord remains one of my top ten albums ever.
The three new songs he's played live remind me of 2020, which I didn't love, so I'm keeping my expectations low. For me, his work work veers between "holy shit what the hell" (The Glass Trunk, Nothing Important, Henki, Free Humans, The Ruby Cord, and everything Bulbils... okay, that's a clear majority when I actually list it) and "cool in theory but I don't actually enjoy listening" (Peasant, Mogic, 2020).
Still one of the most interesting artists I'm aware of.
― TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 10 October 2024 07:36 (seven months ago)
2020 ended up growing on me quite a bit! But its lesser tracks really came to life live I thought
For the record, if that'd have been a more general-purpose RD server it might have gone a bit further...ah well! Maybe there's one out there...
― imago, Thursday, 10 October 2024 09:21 (seven months ago)
new rich(?) dawson day. end of the middle out in feb.
― devvvine, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 11:41 (six months ago)
New single easily the lamest thing he's ever put out, but honestly, where do you go after The Ruby Cord
― imago, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 11:43 (six months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mraMN1lILXY
yeah this isn't compelling at all sadly. press release has nothing to make me optimistic either, alas
― ufo, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 12:37 (six months ago)
cute video tho
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 12:43 (six months ago)
Woah. Bulbils have a lot... any recommendations where to start?
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:27 (six months ago)
Dive right in with the first record, Squatch. (But I say that being only seven or eight in myself. They're too wonderful to rush through.)
― TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:32 (six months ago)
Or if you want an overview, you could try their self-curated four-hour set: here
― TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:35 (six months ago)
Triple-album continuous-narrative space opera, of course!
― TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:38 (six months ago)
Clearly I'm more excited than I was expecting. And having given it a first listen, remain intrigued and hopeful. This Polytunnel sounds way more melancholy than the live versions. Has more space too. Feels like it's got some of the loneliness of the hills from the Hermit video in it.
― TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:47 (six months ago)
sure not so ambitious, but i love this. deepening delivery of 'polytunnel' especially.
― devvvine, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:50 (six months ago)
After a few more listens, I love Polytunnel. Great prog folk. And touching as hell.
― TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:52 (six months ago)
Not feeling Boxing Day Sales but willing to keep trying when the album's out.
Great talk with Richard here: https://pod.link/1081000090/episode/c40df76cffba228a3b726a9148db7b69
― TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 9 January 2025 01:48 (four months ago)
Third single Gondola is pretty good. Great video. And the reviews and new interview that have popped up over the last couple of days are sounding renticing. And Polytunnel has cemented itself as a huge fave. So, I finally made up my mind and pre-ordered, two days before the release date. Would love to join the Bandcamp Listening Party but that's 3AM in China.
― TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 04:30 (three months ago)
*enticing
Woke up for the 3 AM listening party regardless. It's like a zombie version of 2020. An eviscerated 2020, its innards laid out on the table beside it. Which I mean as a compliment.
It's a lot less tame than the singles and album blurb had led me to expect. Got chills quite a few times. All three of the singles are more powerful in sequence.
Lyrically it's very 2020 too, but you keep getting moments where a black hole opens up, or things suddenly get mystical -- disorienting and disturbing moments that reminded me of the "while the faces of my loved ones disappear" turn in Nothing Important, or the dream about the minotaur in Fresher's Ball.
― TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 13 February 2025 20:03 (three months ago)
Three seven-minute songs, so it's not all miniatures either. The opener is short but massive -- just the way to answer The Hermit.
― TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 13 February 2025 20:06 (three months ago)
Looking forward to this.
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 February 2025 20:12 (three months ago)
A nap and few hours later, I'm really anxious for this to get published on Bandcamp. Can't wait to hear it again.
― TheNuNuNu, Friday, 14 February 2025 02:22 (three months ago)
"knot" is fantastic
― ufo, Friday, 14 February 2025 07:49 (three months ago)
"more than real" is a pretty significant departure for him and is really special
the rest of the album is just alright by his standards but those two tracks are incredible, and i like it overall more than 2020 at least
― ufo, Friday, 14 February 2025 08:23 (three months ago)
Knot towers over all the tracks before it, that's for certain
― imago, Friday, 14 February 2025 11:19 (three months ago)
On this album I mean, which is proving a bit of a disappointment
There are a lot of lyrical clunkers on this. He's always walked a fine line between affecting and corny, staying on the right side, but not here
― imago, Friday, 14 February 2025 11:20 (three months ago)
the dream about the minotaur in Fresher's Ball
It wasn't until I read this upthread that I connected it with the singer in "Ogre" dreaming of skyscrapers before the child vanishes!
Haven't dug all the way into the new one yet, but I do appreciate his apparent desire in the early songs to distill his thing into an incredibly simple, clear, efficient and approachable version of itself. Which "Polytunnel" really seemed to manage. (It's replaced "Wooden Bag" as the Dawson song my younger kid wants to hear all the time.) For me there have definitely been times in the past where his willingness to aim at really earnestly human topics seems worrisomely clunky right up until I've gotten into the song and am forced to think no, this is just a plain and affecting statement about real life, and its being poised on that edge is a good part of why it's going to make me increasingly borderline-weepy every time I hear it
― ን (nabisco), Friday, 14 February 2025 17:23 (three months ago)
Oh, damn. The Fresher's Ball dream of course happening after a child vanishes.
Can't account for it yet, but End of the Middle has me rapt. Noticing a theme of natural forces trying to make their way indoors -- the lightning strike in Bolt, the blizzard in Boxing Day Sales.
― TheNuNuNu, Friday, 14 February 2025 23:52 (three months ago)
his lyrical approach on this is mostly so mundane that it's hard to have any interest there, and his material loses a lot without the rich arrangements - the arrangements here are mostly so stripped back and rudimentary that they feel like demos by comparison
the lyrics to "more than real" are definitely corny but that feels very deliberate given the arrangement, i don't really mind that
two great tracks is more than i was expecting given the singles and the rest is still fine, the only thing i really dislike is "polytunnel" which leans into all his most irritating qualities, but it's got nothing on his best work
― ufo, Saturday, 15 February 2025 10:20 (three months ago)
that's funny, the reason why i love polytunnel is that it leans away from the cohered narrative or character study that's his default mode and appears simply as these snatches and fragments which aren't necessarily related to one another. find there is so much more affect in these isolated moments and pleasure in the phrases as they sound without having to join them together around a fictional person.
― devvvine, Saturday, 15 February 2025 10:39 (three months ago)
Been playing Henki, The Ruby Cord, and End of the Middle over and over again this week. Reading and re-reading what the music publications had to say about them all. I love this insight from Konstantinos Pappis:
[The Tip of an Arrow] is about a father refusing to let his daughter conform with the times, so of course it’s a chugging metal riff they adopt as the language of resistance.
Pretty melodies and great Sally vocals aside, I can't feel my way into More than Real, but the rest of the new album is meaning more & more to me. 3:31 to 5:56 of The Question has become one of my favorite bits in the whole Dawson catalogue.
― TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 08:11 (three months ago)
Okay fuck, More than Real finally got to me, I get it now -- the bleeping gloom and how it connects & undercuts / reinterprets "how my own dad was with me," right, god, there's the tears. Richard, I surrender!
― TheNuNuNu, Friday, 21 February 2025 02:50 (three months ago)