this is the thread where you get everything you ever wantedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFrG_6fySg
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
hyped for this album
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
I like this guy's music.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
saw this guy play live last year and he played a bunch of new material and it was fantastic.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 8 January 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link
was there a laugh track though
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link
hey folks this album did that thing faucets aren't supposed to do under optimal conditions
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
Stayed cold for a long time then eventually got lukewarm?
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
the pipes froze?
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
RIP to my terrible joke
in any case, this album's real fuckin good
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
I found her naked with her best friend in the tubWe sang Silent Night in three parts, which was funUntil she said that she sounds just like Sarah VaughanI hate that soulful affectation white girls put onWhy don’t you move to the Delta?
― Simon H., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
hmmm - the leak i downloaded has some live tracks on it. not sure if it's legit or what the deal is.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
i got one with 11 tracks all of which sound pure studio - maybe you found some deluxe ed.?
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
i think what i found is the opposite of deluxe.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
when does this come out?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
xp weird
i believe feb. 18 is the announced release date - it's kind of nuts how early this leak is
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
I found her naked with her best friend in the tubWe sang Silent Night in three parts, which was funUntil she said that she sounds just like Sarah VaughanI hate that soulful affectation white girls put onWhy don’t you move to the DeltaNewark, New Jersey?
― Simon H., Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:00 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
The album comes with a bonus cassette at Norman Records (and, presumably, some other places):
https://www.normanrecords.com/records/151380-father-john-misty-i-love-you-honeybear-
― djh, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
is he the new john grant!?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
don't hate FJM but would rather have a new Fleet Foxes record, come out of the shadows Robin Pecknold
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
holy cats, this is his tenth album! man, i'd never even heard of him until half an hour ago...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
is there anything to distinguish this dude from the typical fleet fox bon iver folky songy niceties?
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
wait i don't really know what "nicety" means. i just mean all those nice and pleasant-sounding artists who are ultimately quite safe and a little boring?
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
ha!
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
yes. he is a little different.
xxxp its mostly in his lyrics, which are often hysterical and/or vicious
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
he has a stage presence/persona that is way more outwardly engaging and fun/funny
― mizzell, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
xxxpost to scott: his late-2000s stuff as J. Tillman is mostly super hushed, sad, folky stuff, and it is absolutely beautiful, particularly 2009's "Year in the Kingdom" ... but it is quite different from FJM.
this song/video is representative/wonderful: http://youtu.be/OVPet3TWwHw
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
his discussion on wtf about his previous work as j. tillman is pretty interesting and funny.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
admittedly there are a million people doing what he was doign as J. Tillman, and FJM is a good break from that
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
right. he basically was a fleet foxes/ bon iver type before (based on the 1 or 2 songs I could stand before turning it off) and FJM is really nothing like that.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
lyrics for Ideal Husband:
JulianHe's gonna take my files
Every woman that I've slept withEvery friendship I've neglectedDidn't call when grandma diedI spend my money getting drunk and highI've done things unprotectedProceeded to drive home wastedBought things to win over siblingsI've said awful things, such awful things
And nowNow it's outAnd nowNow it's out
Telling people jokes to shut them upResenting people that I loveSleep in 'til two then doin' shitJust stay in bed and later lie 'bout itObsessing over greying hairKnowing just what people wanna hearBinging on unearned attentionI've said awful things, such awful things
I came by at seven in the morningSeven in the morning, seven in the morningI came by at seven in the morningI said, "Baby, I'm finally succumbing"Said something dumb like "I'm tired of runningTired of running, tired of running"Let's put a baby in the ovenWouldn't I make the ideal husband?
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
his lyrics can be outwardly funny in a slap stick kind of way – but they can also be really funny/engaging in a way I’ve never heard before (like they lyrics I just posted).
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
xp and that's honestly at the like, softer end of his sardonic side. "the night josh tillman came to our apartment" from the new album is on a "like a rolling stone" level of bitterness
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
that letterman song did remind me of john grant. which isn't a bad thing really. i don't really know fleet foxes at all but wiki says he was just drumming for them anyway.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
and then he drops a song that is just plain beautiful like I Went To The Store One Day.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
i also just heard abt this guybut the letterman performance was great, i like the theatrical aspect of it
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
listening to his 2012 album
sometimes he reminds me of Nilsson a bit, he's more explicitly bitter and stuff but the same sort of sense of dread and angst bubbling up in these little perfect studio pop productions
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
i dig the novelty of an indie guy trying to Say Something but the lyrics to "bored in the usa" get so corny
― da croupier, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
some of the other pull-quotes here are more promising though
He had to expect that people would have felt that way, hence the laugh track. This part always makes me chuckle: Oh good the stranger’s body’s still here/ Our arrangement hasn’t changed
― Indexed, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
corny != funny unless you are xposting some distance to the slapstick humor post
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
I like some songs on Fear Fun. But I think that croup is correct in calling out 'Bored In the USA'. It doesn't work as well for me as similar stuff from Nilsson (or Newman), such as 'Gotta Get Up'->'Driving Along' or 'Love Story (You and Me)'.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
Nilsson could be sincere and moving. FJM does not try for that.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
you know, I was going to say the same thing. but then I thought 'Oh wait, he has a song titled 'o i long to feel your arms around me''. and well...
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
so I am still looking for something sincere because I think that is something I'm missing compared to Nilsson or Grant.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
yeah i shouldn't have compared him to a great like nilsson
there's a kind of 70s pro studio vibe to it though, grant kinda has that too
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
The schism btwn his records as J. Tillman and FJM is really interesting to me, as the Tillman records are more traditionally "sincere"-sounding, yet he is much more engaging in this new persona. (Which he claims to be a more honest representation of where he's at these days, anyway.)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 14 January 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link
Nilsson doesn't seem like the right point of comparison to me. If we're talking 70s pro-studio gloss + darkly cynical/sarcastic lyrics about sex and drugs and assholes then the obvious reference point is everyone's favorite Coachella 2015 performers
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
hmmm. FJM songs have so much reverb, though, and it doesn't really sound 70s pro-studio gloss imo. And I don't think you'll see too many drummers drumming along to these FJM songs on youtube anytime ever.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
Ideal Husband is great. That second verse is so brutal. I do find his lyrics moving actually.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
guys guys you're going waaaaaay too far back for your reference points
consider bright eyes and later bad seeds
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
ok that was ign'nt since i've only heard bored in the usa
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
haha very ignorant just after flipping through "bored" again and some other stuff. i think his caustic literalness just reminds me of some of their stuff, but the sound is very different
i'll accept he sounds further back, how about a meaner rupert holmes
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
He does have some of Cave's black sense of humour but I hear Nilsson all over this. I think it's the arrangements and the general air of 70s LA barfly debauchery. He wears a string section like an old suit that needs dry cleaning.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTRpLhyVHqI
Life's a constant disappointmentWhen you live on celluloidBut my movie expectations are a dream I can't avoidWaiting for a girl to say the thingsThat I heard in a film last nightBut she doesn't want to play the roleAnd she can't pick her cues up rightWill I dream? Yes, I might
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
his hooks would have to be hookier and his attitude more whimsical (if dark) for me to bring up nilsson above 80 other 70s singer-songwriters
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
As a genre I like "charismatic self-loathing asshole who wrecks everything he touches but has a great arranger".
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
lol that prob deserves its own thread
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
marcus maronus
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
As a 70s singer-songwriter archetype it beats "soulful nice guy who wants you to forgive his fuck-ups because it's so hard making it in this crazy world"
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
you guys are hilarious.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
can't wait for the divorce album
― Simon H., Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
people put out too many records...these days...
10 albums! (plus EPs and singles...)
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
but how much does he resemble jackson browne?
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
God sends his spaceships to America the beautifulThey land at six o'clock and there we are, the dutifulEating from TV traysTuned into Happy DaysWaiting for World War III while Jesus slavesTo the mating calls of lawyers in love
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
when oswald shot kennedy he was insane and still we watch the reruns again and again...
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton),
You should prob check out Blake Mills' "don't tell all your friends about me" if you're looking for a jackson browne version of this.
― Heez, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
not that you were
― Heez, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
i thought that was so profound in whatever year that was...
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
― Heez, Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:57 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I like this. I need to find this thread.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
actually, I saw Blake Mills with Fiona Apple in 2014 and then forgot to check this album out
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
i was asleep and driving my kids to school this morning and i swear this is the first time i ever heard this song. on the radio in the car. i looked it up. no. 2 in the country! who knew? or it was no. 2. sold 190,000 copies. of the album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYSVMgRr6pw
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
it was just a weird song to hear in the car in the morning. while asleep. i was all: pop radio is weird or something...where's my all about the bass song i hear twice in ten minutes on the ride to school?
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
it wasn't unpleasant to hear. and way way better than the faux-arcade fire geronimo song i heard a little later on the radio.
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
these nu-dudes are all over the place. john grant is the first one i was genuinely moved by.
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
funny that john grant also has a song with honeybear in the title
― mizzell, Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
sometime last year a critic I don't always like (steven hyden) said something about this album like "it is likely to inspire rapturous reviews and unreadable thinkpiecess" and after several listens to it...that seems pretty otm
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Saturday, 17 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
FJM unveils stunning new digital release strategy
http://www.fatherjohnmisty.com/sap/
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
Those SAP'd renditions are great.
― schwantz, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Josh Tillman is on some fuck shit. I loved the three new tracks I heard in the lead-up to the album's release (well, leak), but I should've sensed that I was in for a disappointment when I found myself returning exclusively to live versions of the songs. Like the last album, which featured sterilized, overproduced versions of his demos and live cuts--another clue I should've caught--this one has been so diluted in the studio as to make close listening to his lyrics unpleasant.
But, the thing is, even his lyrics--sharp as they sometimes are--tend to veer into their own sort of excess. Which is to say that, for all their wit, they're sometimes so willfully clever, so self-satisfied that they read like the sass of an adolescent who's just discovered sarcasm.
The lyrics and the overproduction, then, work similarly and together: they often seem pointless--and he pointlessly clever, pointlessly cruel--and they more often seem to miss the point entirely--that, for instance, Tillman comes across as more or less the male equivalent to the person he's bitching about in "The Night Josh Tillman Came to Our Apartment". Maybe that's part of the joke, but the sheer, overwhelming amount of sarcasm and self-consciousness (self-obsession, really) makes it hard to read his intentions well, makes it hard to tell whether and when he's being genuine. I mean, this is probably a dumb question, but my confusion maybe epitomizes my response to the album: he's making fun of us on "True Affection", right, with its vocal effects and its pop-electro instrumental? He's mocking us like he mocks the girl who uses the word "literally" too often and in the wrong situations--as Tillman himself mis- and over-applies his needlessly cutting lyricism and his studio bells and whistles. It seems instructive that Tillman, in spite of his apparent disdain for the girl in "The Night Josh Tillman...", chooses to sleep with her anyway.
― Darvin H.A.M. (AlexPh), Friday, 30 January 2015 07:40 (nine years ago) link
http://grantland.com/features/father-john-misty-i-love-you-honeybear/
excellent longform profile
― slothroprhymes, Sunday, 8 February 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
xp based on what he sez in the profile, i think he just wanted to mess around with electro sounds on "true affection" and evidently liked the way it came out - that particular song is not a piss-take on the listener altho it is supposed to be about how frustrating electronic communication can be.
also i don't think how faltering in your own actions in spite of your frustration with someone or something - like, sleeping with a guy or girl you are angry with or even disdainful of - is anything other than an incredibly human thing, albeit a very ugly/unflattering one
― slothroprhymes, Sunday, 8 February 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
Debates about authenticity are boring and pointless
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 February 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link
prob but we gotta get these posts off
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 9 February 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link
brilliant marketinghttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0616/5709/products/fjm_shirt_mascera.jpg?v=1422377034
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 9 February 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link
Can someone tell me what distinguishes the music of Kozelek and this clown from the endless supply of Earnest Singer-Songwriter Dudes that pfork 2015 routinely ignores / ostensibly despises? I mean, apart from narcissistic lyrics that occasionally read like the "outrageous" tweets of an oversharing friend?
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 08:16 (nine years ago) link
this guy doesn't seem particularly earnest as much as painfully self-conscious and hiding behind layers of irony which is more obnoxious
― ufo, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 08:30 (nine years ago) link
ooh the backlash
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link
don't see any similarities to Kozelek tbh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
that seems to be the difference JD was wondering about
― Dinsdale, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
still think Steely Dan is the closest analogue. I guess people found them obnoxious too
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
(not in terms of jazz-rock chops obviously, but in terms of juxtaposing slick, pretty music with bleakly cynical/ironic lyrics)
― Dinsdale, Tuesday, February 10, 2015 11:48 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
bingo
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
He doesn't seem to be hiding behind irony as much as he just really enjoys irony, moreso in interviews/persona than in the music itself tbh, which is mostly pretty straightforward
― Simon H., Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
I think that's my main issue with it - he's not committed to it. As a result the context, to me, seems less Bonnie Billy and more I'm Still Here or something. It's neither compelling nor especially inscrutable in a way that makes you wanna peel the layers. It just feels like a bad gimmick. Which would be fine if the music he was producing wasn't bland as bread.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
hmm Oldham is an interesting point of comparison - particularly "Sings Greatest Palace Music". I'm not interested in peeling layers in general though. it's the songs that count.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
he does have an I'm Still Here beard
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
and I see that he pooped on my spotify as I slept last night
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
xp Do they, though? There are far, far better songwriters who put out records last year that don't seem to get the same attention, mostly because their music doesn't lend itself as easily to lifestyle reporting. I also don't think it's a coincidence that Kozelek's star seemed to rise in proportion to his trolling.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
kozelek's trolling better described as "bread bowling"
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, February 10, 2015 12:44 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If you make yourself equal to a compelling character in an indie flick people start to care. Your backstory or whatever else on the outside needs to fuel your musical output and is more important than how interesting the music itself is.
― Evan, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
with FJM the persona and all its attendant bells and whistles ultimately benefit the music & lyrics, so it isn't bothersome to me
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
yeah I find it a compelling character, much like Bonnie Prince Billie (or Dylan or any other number of "I can't tell if this is a joke" ironists) in that respect
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
I think most importantly the songs are confident and colorful, and the arrangements are big but detailed and not boring. Also it's very well-sequenced. "Holy Shit" and "I Went to the Store One Day" are a great closing pair.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 11 February 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
Just got the vinyl, which came w a cassette of demos (incl a cass mccombs cover)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link
What song did he cover?
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
nobody's nixon
― mizzell, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
Great choice. Love that song, love the EP it's from.
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
lol @ the canned audience in Bored in the USA - figured that was just a Letterman gag
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
on first couple listens - this has a more uniform sound than the previous one (dude sure loves his string section), and I don't hear anything as immediately catchy. it feels v langurous, albeit in a predictably bitter and mysanthropic way. the last few songs seem like the peak.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
steely dan lyrics way more oblique than this dude. the juxtaposition you identify here is literally everywhere in music
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
well I didn't say it was unique
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 February 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
agree that the Dan's stuff is more oblique
I think I probably find the persona more interesting than I would've otherwise because I was already very familiar with his much more po-faced output as J. Tillman.
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 February 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
I guess the other reason I brought up the Dan is because the sonic territory FJM is mining here sounds p explicitly LA 70s, albeit from more of the country-rock end then the jazz-rock end
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 February 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
can't escape this dude's music playing in coffee shops
― Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 12 February 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link
Have started enjoying this more once I have stopped worrying whether it is any good or not, if that makes sense?
― djh, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
Sometimes self satisfied, undeniably, but this > "and then he drops a song that is just plain beautiful like I Went To The Store One Day".
― djh, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
http://www.citypaper.com/music/music-boxes/strum-und-twang/bcp-strum-und-twang-fuck-father-john-misty-fuck-bob-dylan-listen-to-zane-campbell-20150303,0,6672882.story
Guy who has produced unknown Maryland artist Zane Campbell writes guest article for Baltimore City Paper ripping into Father John Misty and others
He starts like this:
First things first: There is no more room in the United States for even one more Father Chode or Father John Misty or whatever the fuck the newest know-it-all trippy sensitive white yuppie songwriter rehashing the ’60s is called. Will the bros and rich kids please stay the fuck out of country and folk music, for crying out loud? You have fucking ruined it beyond all repair with your literary allusions and private-school educations and insecure fake tough-guy shit. Don’t come back either. You aren’t funny or tough or witty and you are clogging up the inboxes of all the booking agents and critics with your reverb-drenched non-singing guitar-noodling ass horseshit and creating more traffic on the roadways while “going on tour.”
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 March 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
I know this dude has a clear motive, but he's not wrong.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 15 March 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
laughable authenticity policing bullshit
― slothroprhymes, Sunday, 15 March 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link
Yup
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 15 March 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
Fjm is the worst tho
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link
This is narcissism of the smallest difference.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link
No bros or rich kids in country music! Enough is enough amirite
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 March 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
Anyway Holy Shit seems to be the standout track to me now. Album ends strong.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 March 2015 00:27 (nine years ago) link
Down with this kind of artifice! Up with the kind of artifice I like!
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Monday, 16 March 2015 00:45 (nine years ago) link
this is literally a concept album about a coffee-shop intellectual falling in love with a hipster party girl
― it me, Monday, 16 March 2015 06:11 (nine years ago) link
That article's embarrassing. What relevance does FJM have to country anyway?
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 16 March 2015 09:47 (nine years ago) link
zero
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link
your literary allusions and private-school educationshttp://www.nndb.com/people/908/000023839/KrisKristofferson.jpg^^^rhodes scholar
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
^^^bro
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 March 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
I like how the subeditor of that article clearly thinks there is a real artist called Father Chode
― Reader, I murder dem (DJ Mencap), Monday, 16 March 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
http://concert.arte.tv/fr/soiree-de-poche-father-john-misty
― djh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
ILYH has grown on me a lot since it came out. One of my faves of the year now.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
there's a couple missteps but yeah it's good
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
i generally have an aversion to stuff like this but this album is excellent.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 1 June 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
Finally heard this. Adam Green did the kind of nice singing w some cuss words thrown in for shock better imo. The production is really nice, you can tell he wants to be Harry Nilsson, but doesn't have the bite or wit or gift w a melody of any of the aforementioned.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
He killed it at Glastonbury. Reminded me of Nick Cave as a performer. Honeybear, Bored in the USA and Ideal Husband were particularly great. iplayer link for UK Ilxors:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02v3j54/glastonbury-2015-father-john-misty
― A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
Saw this on Facebook today:
Father John Misty1 hr · I’d like to briefly clarify my comments to Billboard about duality, and “where I belong” etc.In the past year or so the question of where I’m going to go in terms of a label, publishing, etc and what I want for my career has been up in the air. I’ve never been in a position to field interest from major labels and publishers before and I’ll admit it can make you nervous and raise existential type questions like “Who am I? What do I believe in? What kind of artist am I?” etcDrawing a line, recognizing certain dualities, or making a distinction, like I’m talking about to the interviewer, is important in terms of not becoming totally misguided in a process like this. While pragmatism is good, sometimes ideals are important too, and perhaps even more useful in making a decision with real consequences on your ability to survive creatively. I personally think I am more likely to thrive outside the major label thing and my minor brushes with mainstream levels of attention have left me with totally bewildered how anyone habitually lives with it.I don’t harbor any delusion my music is too radically unique or subversive to be appreciated by the masses, and there are more than enough examples of iconoclast major label artists to make a case that as a rule pop art is more frequently progressive where artists like me are relatively provincial.As a consumer of music, I only have the things that I instinctually do and don’t like, like anyone else. I tend to intellectualize, to my peril, the reasons I don't like the things I don’t like, but that’s just for cheap thrills (or at worst to sanctify my taste). I won’t bore anyone with a comprehensive list of pop artists that I like, or contrarily the non-mainstream music I don’t like.As far as “objective judgments based on beauty” and whatever, I’m in the habit lately of blindly attacking a post-modern strawman that may or may not exist. It’s my current hobbyhorse, what can I say.All in all, I’ve kind of lost my sense of humor with the whole enterprise of press, which is unfortunate for anyone with an internet connection.Yours eventually,JT
― schwantz, Thursday, 5 November 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
the sort of self indulgent waffle one might gladly expect from this bad artist
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 5 November 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
forgive me but one should never have to clarify anything, especially not like this
I am perhaps uncharitable but I have endured the gentleman's music
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 5 November 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
I love his stuff, but I'm not sure what this is in reference to. Tried to look him up on Billboard, but couldn't see anything related to these comments.
― schwantz, Thursday, 5 November 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6746284/father-john-misty-talks-taylor-swift-1989-covers-pop-music-at-pitchfork-festival-paris
― just sayin, Thursday, 5 November 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
Ah.
― schwantz, Thursday, 5 November 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link
let me guess he is looking down on this media frenzy laughing with wild abandon at his grand social experiment of whether billboard would print an interview with a musician how very clever and post modern
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 November 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link
i...don't think he cares that much
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 5 November 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link
lol @ Billboard hosebags:
It’s sentiments like that one and Tillman’s ongoing interest in bringing philosophical theories into discussions about music (he references Marx’s commodity fetishism several times)
what a way out concept, commodity fetishism
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
He's great and I get what he's trying to say in that statement. It all seems pretty unobjectionable.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 6 November 2015 10:28 (nine years ago) link
yeah imago should dial it down a little: narcissism of small differences has never been a good look on anyone, y'know?
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 6 November 2015 11:42 (nine years ago) link
i am sad because i parsed the billboard url wrong -- i thought it was 'father john misty talks taylor swift, covers pop music'; not 'talks taylor swift covers, pop music'
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 6 November 2015 11:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah imago should dial it down a little
Why start now?
― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Oh, I just love the kind of woman who can walk over a manI mean like a goddamn marching bandShe says, like literally, music is the air she breathesAnd the malaprops make me want to fucking screamI wonder if she even knows what that word meansWell, it's literally not that
I think this verse opens well enough with witty FJM irony, but what's up with complaining abt misuse of "literally"?
also guess "goddamn" and "fucking" are supposed to add urgency and at same time humour bcz of juxtaposition to monotone delivery and cute music - but to my ears sounds LAME
anyway, this verse has been annoying me lately, just my 2 cents
― niels, Thursday, 26 November 2015 11:33 (nine years ago) link
actually it reads p well, maybe it's more the musical delivery I don't like
cause it reads like a "funny" inner monologue from a novel with a "charmingly" idiosyncratic character
― niels, Thursday, 26 November 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link
hahahahahaha this guy is such a cunt
― avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Thursday, 26 November 2015 11:38 (nine years ago) link
what's up with complaining abt misuse of "literally"?
He misuses malaprops as he does so, deliberately you'd think.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 26 November 2015 11:39 (nine years ago) link
xp haha, maybe that's actually what I wanted to say
― niels, Thursday, 26 November 2015 11:39 (nine years ago) link
I'm sure it's deliberate but that particular ironic aesthetic does nothing for me, this youtube commenter get's it though:
The layers in the opening verse are amazing, the misuse of malaprop in describing the girl he perceives as trite and pretentious is trite and pretentious in its own right. This is what makes FMJ great; within every song where he lashes out at society and other people, he also questions himself and his own perceptions and understanding of what is 'right'.
― niels, Thursday, 26 November 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link
just heard this bad musician for the first time on colbert
― conrad, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
can't stomach this guy
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link
This is what makes FMJ great; within every song where he lashes out at society and other people, he also questions himself and his own perceptions and understanding of what is 'right'.this is what might make, like, an episode of power rangers great
― help computer (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
^what?
― monster_xero, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link
looool
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a truck (imago), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link
father john misty is hacking up his housemate, music, with a sword, but all the while he is regretting his decisions
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a truck (imago), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link
Looking forward to seeing this brilliant album right up there in the poll.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 21 January 2016 09:42 (eight years ago) link
I'm really sorry I don't like his music because I love the cover art to the Honeybear album.
― Max Florian, Friday, 22 January 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link
https://devonrecordclub.com/2016/04/20/father-john-misty-i-love-you-honeybear-round-89-nicks-choice/
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 09:22 (eight years ago) link
Great stuff. You really nail what makes this record so good there.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 11:16 (eight years ago) link
Thank you. It's easily the record Em and I have spent the most time listening to and talking about since the sprog was born, I've been absolutely fascinated with it in a way I've not been with another record in a long time.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link
even as a huge FJM fan, has to be said he came across as a bit of a self important tosser here. somehow Radcliffe and Maconie's (very) mild joshing seemed to rattle him. although Maconie was perhaps unnecessarily uppity. at last night's gig he called it 'one of the worst moments of my life'. pretty easy life he's had then.
also he appeared according to follow up tweets to think it was *local* radio! as opposed to the leading national radio audience he could possibly have had at that moment in the UK.
http://www.stereogum.com/1877059/hear-father-john-mistys-awkward-interview-on-bbc-radio-6-music-today/news/
― piscesx, Saturday, 14 May 2016 10:46 (eight years ago) link
class comments to the youtube-version:
Josh has answered all of these questions hundreds of times before/they misinterpret the whole point of the Father John Misty persona/the guy has been touring for literal months and would be stressed as fuck at two middle-aged dudes who don't have the slightest idea at what his act is about and probably don't give a shit either, who are just trying to engage with him on a purely superficial level
― niels, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link
Seemed less "car crash" than I'd expected from the internet.
Have never listened to "Radcliffe & Maconie" before (though used to listen to "Mark & Lard" and have read decent things by Maconie) and I could see why an interviewee might find them irritating.
― djh, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link
wow an ironic prius ad now i really want to listen to this guy
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 20 May 2016 03:33 (eight years ago) link
New album PURE COMEDY out April 7th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cejjqC1oyQM
― Jalapeño Coladas, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
lookin forward to it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link
I liked both of the albums a lot but the new song honestly belongs in rolling worst '17
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link
nah sounds good to me. a bit reminiscent of the closing track on the last album
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link
it's basically a retread of the sentiment from "Bored in the USA" only even more thuddingly obvious and attached to a neverending plod. he's much better when he's in self-effacing/mocking mode
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link
have to avoid coffee shops for a couple of years now jeez
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link
fucking hate him he is the worst
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
you guys are all wrong
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link
Every once in a while I'll feel a little guilty about not keeping up with 'indie rock' the way I used to, and then I remember that people in 2017 actually take this fucking guy seriously, and I go happily back to my psych reissues and Fact mixes
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 00:17 (seven years ago) link
"Father John Misty"
lol
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link
your power rangers joke was hilarious and infinitely smarter and funnier than anything this guy has done
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link
Joke's on you guys imo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link
Farter John Shitty
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:41 (seven years ago) link
his cover of Lennon's "God" last year was p great
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:58 (seven years ago) link
tracklist!
Pure ComedyTotal Entertainment ForeverThings It Would Be Helpful to Know Before the RevolutionBallad of the Dying ManBirdieLeaving LAA Bigger Paper BagWhen the God of Love Returns There'll Be Hell to PaySmoochieTwo Wildly Different PerspectivesThe MemoSo I’m Growing Old on Magic MountainIn Twenty Years or So
Vinyl pre-orders will receive a 7” single featuring the first physical release of fan favourite “Real Love Baby” on the A-side and the as yet unreleased track, "Rejected Generic Pop Song.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link
the idea of a 13 minute fjm song is terrifying
― ufo, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 07:51 (seven years ago) link
I think someone like Randy Newman makes ironic pop tunes work v well, but FJM seems so self-important and clever abt it makes you wanna punch his face
― niels, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 08:37 (seven years ago) link
it's basically a retread of the sentiment from "Bored in the USA" only even more thuddingly obvious and attached to a neverending plod. he's much better when he's in self-effacing/mocking mode― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:39 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:39 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Exactly what I felt. Like, be more on the nose.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 08:48 (seven years ago) link
seems like he's made friends again with BBC6
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04rw622
the 13 minute song is present and correct.
word around the campfire is that the album's amazing.
― piscesx, Thursday, 9 February 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link
the campfire that is not ilx
― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link
that's the one.
― piscesx, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link
Wimmels sez:Every once in a while I'll feel a little guilty about not keeping up with 'indie rock' the way I used to, and then I remember that people in 2017 actually take this fucking guy seriously, and I go happily back to my psych reissues and Fact mixes
I feel that guilt, too, but substitute krautrock for psych and post-punk for Fact.
I ran across a couple of tunes from this guy's new album and, musically, they're fine, mellow, uninteresting. Lyrically, though, I can't be too harsh. I mean, if you're a 30-something songwriter and watching our political landscape, wouldn't you want to rail against the dying of the light?
So if this is modern protest music, I'm fine with it but won't be singing along at the next march.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 10 February 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link
I posted "two wildly different perspectives" in Rolling Worst, it's somehow even worse than the title track despite being half the length
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
Some musicians you want to romantically imagine you'd follow them off a cliff for. This guy I would be happy to hurl off a cliff.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link
reserving judgment til I can listen to the new one in its entirety but the first two are great, sorry you guys don't like irony or performance art anymore, haters gonna hate
― Οὖτις, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link
Man, fuck irony or performance art as an excuse, dude's just boring.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link
I used to defend him on the grounds of his self-effacing humour helping to make the would-be profundity go down easier but his newfound humorlessness makes him impossible to listen to
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link
I don't think it's an excuse it's just... what it is, and some people seem to miss that (cf this accusation of "newfound humorlessness" for ex.) Who he really reminds me of is Nilsson, sort of agent-provacateur pop
― Οὖτις, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link
and Nilsson also threaded the line between being emotionally affecting and confrontational or silly, loads of sarcasm and humor alternately undercutting or bolstering the more seriously emotional stuff
― Οὖτις, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link
maybe FJM will do an album of standards next lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
that's all fine, it's the "political" angle that does him in, he's like a Bono level terribly political lyricist and the "performative" layer just makes it worse somehow
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link
stuff like "Holy Shit" managed to just barely make that balance work but these new songs just tip right over into nightmare fodder
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link
well like I said I'll reserve judgment til I hear the whole thing, I haven't listened to this new stuff
I thought "Holy Shit" was v good
― Οὖτις, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link
if he has in fact turned to earnest Bono-ing yeah I might be getting off the boat
album is really dull, coming from someone who really likes honeybear and fear fun. so many plodding piano ballads, that literally all seem to be about an end-of-the-world reckoning and making pithy statements about how silly the whole world is. every track seems like it should be the final track on the album. i was listening to it without looking at the tracklisting and i couldn't believe another song kept coming on
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 23 March 2017 06:58 (seven years ago) link
i've steadfastly detested this artist since the beginning and in a way that was likely untenably, unreasonably prejudiced but i'm glad to learn that even his fans are beginning to turn on him
― monotony, Thursday, 23 March 2017 07:11 (seven years ago) link
also would rather eat a nine day-old Whopper sat on by Baron Harkonnen than be forced to read Sir Elton interviewing Misty Joe Fuckface
― Wimmels, Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:36 PM (two days ago)
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 March 2017 11:21 (seven years ago) link
I was put off listening to him for a long time by the unending stream of rubbish he said in interviews. I eventually forced myself to have a browse around in case I was missing out. Real Love Baby is a great song, even if (because?) it's a complete early solo Lennon ripoff. Everything else though was dull, plodding shite, with the odd clunky 'provocative' line. I can't be arsed to listen to any more, life is short and there's way too much good music out there to be wasting my time on him.
― the_ecuador_three, Thursday, 23 March 2017 12:40 (seven years ago) link
I don't have a problem with this man
― a but (brimstead), Thursday, 23 March 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link
not that I've heard his music or anything
piano ballads, that literally all seem to be about an end-of-the-world reckoning and making pithy statements about how silly the whole world is. every track seems like it should be the final track on the album
he's good at these but yeah idk if I can take a whole album of this. I like a little variety. and he's good at the sprightlier tunes ("Well You Can Do It Without Me", "I'm Writing a Novel", "Chateau Lobby #4")
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
yknow I could really go for a whole album of "Well You Can Do It Without Me" type jaunty country-pop but I guess he's too "smart" for that or whatever
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link
"Real Love Baby" is great because he didn't write it for the insufferable Father John Misty character he's lost himself in. Truth be told, his earnest folk albums as J. Tillman are pretty unlistenable, but at least he was easy to ignore back then. It's frustrating now because every stunt he pulls gets hot take'd into death—the novelty songs, the interviews, the controversial lyrics, the stage rants—clogging up news feeds for days. Worse, it all happens with the knowledge that he's really talented and can make infectious pop songs (i.e. "Real Love Baby") but decides to spiral further down into his meta rabbit hole of masturbatory in-jokes and freshman philosophy level musings. He's funny, too, but that gets obscured by the fact he doesn't think a musician can court fame without compromising some antiquated notion of authenticity.
― Handsome Bookor, Friday, 24 March 2017 01:09 (seven years ago) link
Oh no a musician w personal ethics how terrible rmde
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 01:58 (seven years ago) link
The problem is that he tries to impose those personal ethics on other artists. He said to Rolling Stone, "Artists need to consider whether they can live with themselves if they’re just singing about breakups and whatever," like his dorm room critical theory is any more socially Important.
― Handsome Bookor, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:43 (seven years ago) link
in the current rush to destroy straight white guys i fail to understand how this one isn't first on the list
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:48 (seven years ago) link
"Artists" is obviously generalized/abstract there, I'm sure he's including himself in that statement.
Xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:25 (seven years ago) link
doesn't make it much better
― niels, Friday, 24 March 2017 06:50 (seven years ago) link
he doesn't think a musician can court fame without compromising some antiquated notion of authenticity.
― Handsome Bookor, Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:09 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
isn't Pitchfork proving him right, though? It's as if his publicist concocts a new 'hot take" every day and Pitchfork are just hanging on the line waiting to see if the latest scoop will be about Stranger Things or Kanye or Taylor or...
Again, his thing--such that it is--is working, despite the pushback. A lot of people I know know this guy's name, very very few have heard his music or even the name of his latest album ("It's 'Honeyboo-boo something-something' right?")
― Wimmels, Friday, 24 March 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
completely otm
― Wimmels, Friday, 24 March 2017 12:12 (seven years ago) link
not sure I can ever truly forgive Aziz Ansari for building an episode of Master of None around seeing this tool in concert.
― evol j, Friday, 24 March 2017 12:57 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, true. In his defense, though, is his dilettanteishness blandery. He isn't /quite/ dumb enough to write off entirely, /quite/ pretentious enough to eye-roll, /quite/ drab enough to become wallpaper, /quite/ honest enough to be admirable. I find his antic persona weirdly relatable- like, the kind of dumb inchoate shit I might say if given a pop platform.
― rb (soda), Friday, 24 March 2017 13:03 (seven years ago) link
It's as if his publicist concocts a new 'hot take" every day and Pitchfork are just hanging on the line waiting to see if the latest scoop will be about Stranger Things or Kanye or Taylor or...
The annoying thing, as far as I see it, is that he wants to have it both ways. Sing about VR sex with Taylor Swift, get a lot of press for his album, and then say it's social commentary. He'll make the songs, and then criticize people for liking them.
― Handsome Bookor, Friday, 24 March 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
Total Entertainment Forever = totally Captain Fantastic era Elton.
― piscesx, Friday, 24 March 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link
which is itself a fucking tired antiquated notion. at least Bowie invented a space alien.
Who he really reminds me of is Nilsson, sort of agent-provacateur pop
he really sounds like he wants to sound like Nilsson. but he doesn't have the pipes, he doesn't have the charm, he doesn't have the humor. Nilsson was effortless and sly and dgaf. he could get you thrown out of a club even if you were John Lennon.
this guy is a tryhard, safe as milk coffee shop rebel. the pomo "What is authenticity?" stuff is tired, old, leaden Trenchant Social Commentary.
lol @ "You guys don't know irony!" it's a lot like watching a bad comedian and people defending them by saying "You don't get it/It's going over your head".
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link
like, ah yes, it is "performance art", that means i must shut my brain off and appreciate everything he is doing.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:15 (seven years ago) link
I'll grant that he doesn't have Nilsson's pipes, but that's a p high bar
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
no one can sing like that guy
this guy was being interviewed by Charlie Stayt and Steph McGovern on BBC Breakfast this morning! I didn't realise he had any profile beyond ilm/pitchfork etc
― soref, Friday, 24 March 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link
A "tryhard?" What a fantastically shitty thing to say.
― DJI, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link
yeah, don't try as hard!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=try-hardA person who puts a large amount of effort into achieving a certain image, or counter-image, to the point where it is obviously contrived. Rather than achieving an image through genuine personality, the try-hard consciously attempts to fit a certain style through deliberate imitation, forced style, or scripted behavior. That is to say, he/she is trying hard to create an image.
A person who puts a large amount of effort into achieving a certain image, or counter-image, to the point where it is obviously contrived. Rather than achieving an image through genuine personality, the try-hard consciously attempts to fit a certain style through deliberate imitation, forced style, or scripted behavior. That is to say, he/she is trying hard to create an image.
here you go wise guys
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 March 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
he seems pretty up-front about his image being totally contrived and putting a lot of effort into it idgi
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link
Rather than achieving an image through genuine personality,
lol, who's priveleging tired notions of authenticity now?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link
i really liked his cover of "God"
― flappy bird, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
ah, the old "It's performance art!" get out of jail free card. i am well aware he has made this disclaimer. it's all he has. it's just not interesting. this is an uninteresting person musing about how interesting they are.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 March 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link
i actually like everything about FJM except his music. it's a drag
― flappy bird, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
when someone like David Bowie or Madonna does the self aware performance art deconstruction thing, it was about that journey, not about how clever they were for doing so.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 March 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
also, their music was awesome, which certainly helped the medicine go down
― Wimmels, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
I'm not using it as a get out of jail free card, I'm pointing out that your critique of his persona makes no sense/is inconsistent.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:55 (seven years ago) link
Madonna's music is 99% garbage
― Οὖτις, Thursday, January 15, 2015 9:22 AM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha btw I obviously changed my mind about this, although I do still think the Dan are also a good pt of comparison (sans the smooth jazz chops obviously and maybe unfortunately)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link
OBVIOUSLY, I say
@Adam Still a horrible term, even though you didn't make it up.
I still like FJM, although so far the new tracks have all been a bit samey: ponderous ballads with shoehorned-in lyrics and meandering melodies.
― DJI, Friday, 24 March 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link
ponderous ballads with shoehorned-in lyrics and meandering melodies.
this is literally the dictionary definition of indie music, what more could you want?
― sleepingbag, Friday, 24 March 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link
<i>Madonna's music is 99% garbage
― Οὖτις,</i>
dude no. it's much more like 45% garbage
― akm, Saturday, 25 March 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link
70s pro-studio gloss + darkly cynical/sarcastic lyrics about sex and drugs and assholes
if you want to do this & don't have the stones to go full trainwreck like tim buckley c greetings from la, then you should be doing something else.
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 March 2017 03:45 (seven years ago) link
I dont know that one, will check it
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 25 March 2017 05:49 (seven years ago) link
Omg Greetings from LA is amazing avant sleeze, like US Maple goes LA coke rock, FJM's arms are too short to box w god
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 March 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link
i kinda hate buckley's vox in general unfortunately
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 26 March 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link
figured i'd drop in to see how angry this album made people....and ya didn't disappoint lol
― royce jung (slothroprhymes), Friday, 7 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link
i've never fully been able to comprehend how people who were probably 100 percent in the tank for 9 zillion other indie artists with performative as fuck attitudes who said dumb things find /this/ fuckin dork (which i say as a fan) to be the straw that breaks the rage-camel's back, but w/e i guess
(and if anyone thinks he actually is "offended" by pop stars making pop songs they're taking the most obvious bait. if what enrages you is him dropping the bait in the first place, thats an entirely fair criticism. and i personally wish he'd never opened his bloody mouth about taylor swift, whom i generally like.)
ALL THAT SAID, "leaving L.A." is all his worst aspects taken to sadistic extremes and overall this record is only gonna make people who hate him hate him 9,000 times more. but it feels reeaaaallly appropriate for my beer and missile strike news hangover & my suspicion that we're all gonna die soon
― royce jung (slothroprhymes), Friday, 7 April 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
wb sloth! stick around awhile
― Evan, Friday, 7 April 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link
The Rolling Stone interview where he tries to pretend that "Swift" is the only word that rhymed with "Occulus Rift" was highly stupid. Obviously it was for attention...perhaps he's just trolling. But like if I had never heard him before that, I would honestly not bother seeking him out.
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 7 April 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link
The disproportionate attention given to the TS line is kinda pathetic. Some reviewers doth protest too much.
A divisive record I guess, but I'm loving it. FJM's prior work didn't register with me and his recent SNL performance only disgusted me with what seemed an awkward and self-conscious attempt at, ugh, ironic performance art. But I happened to be bored one day and casually dug into a lengthy interview with him, which prompted me to get past my bias and sample the new album. Strangely enough it's been my main listen for the past week or so, despite it feeling overly long on the first few listens. The record itself doesn't seem at all ironic but then again, I also tend to listen to Jim O'Rourke on just the visceral level. My reaction to Pure Comedy is closer to what sloth has concluded above, in that this album (and the lyrics in particular) is one of the very few things working as I watch in sad horror while the two superpowers on opposite sides of my own country begin to square off.
― doug watson, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
This guy is worse than Bon Iver and I didn't know that was possible.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 7 April 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link
so a pop singer said he doesn't like pop songs when in reality he... does? doesn't? it doesn't matter what he means so long as it has been made clear that he is being controversial.
oh wow, i really fell for the bait. what a brilliant trickster.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
The mere mention of the name "Jim O'Rourke" on a thread about this imbecile is a crime (and yes I see the context and yes I realize it wasn't a comparison, but I'm thinking more of the scene in A Bronx Tale where Sonny doesn't want the kid in the crap game to have to look at the ugly mobster's face when he's throwing the dice so he covers the ugly mobster's head with a bag)
― Wimmels, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
see, that mention of Jim O'Rourke makes me want to check this record out. really didn't like the title track but i'll give it a chance.
― flappy bird, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
shakey reppin so hard for this dude is o_O
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link
xpost Careful Flappy, I intended no direct comparisons between JO and FJM
― doug watson, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, April 7, 2017 3:09 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you fall for it by being cranky enough to repeatedly complain about it on an internet website, not to mention me saying i didn't necessarily think dropping bait was the least bit "brilliant" in the first place
― royce jung (slothroprhymes), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
xpost Careful Flappy, I intended no direct comparisons between JO and FJM― doug watson, Friday, April 7, 2017 3:49 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― doug watson, Friday, April 7, 2017 3:49 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i realize that, but the mere mention of one of my favorite artists ever is enough for me to listen to Pure Comedy at least once
― flappy bird, Friday, 7 April 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link
http://everetttrue.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/father-john-misty-the-unpublished-poems/
― Wimmels, Friday, 7 April 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link
#makesyouthink
― DJI, Friday, 7 April 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link
I get why people dislike this guy but I'm still baffled by why some would spend so much of their energy doing so. I couldn't imagine giving up even one free thought toward, say, "the missing poems of Dave Longstreth."
― doug watson, Saturday, 8 April 2017 03:38 (seven years ago) link
I think it's because he's a more frustrating figure than Dave Longstreth. Extramusically, FJM is either captivating or infuriating, there's no in between: he can be genuinely hilarious and insightful, or maddeningly pretentious and condescending. This carries over into his music, too—the dorm room philosophy of "Pure Comedy" is so much worse than "Bored in the USA," a funnier, if just as obvious, piece of social commentary—but my main gripe is that his songs are too self-aware. Nothing beats "Real Love Baby," a straight-up pop song written for Lady Gaga. But he can't ethically record pop songs without making them postmodern critiques on consumerism, or something like that.
DL is simpler. You either dig him or you don't. I've never liked his music, and he seems like kind of a dick, so I don't bother with his stuff. He's never inspired the same disparate opinions from me.
― Handsome Bookor, Saturday, 8 April 2017 14:17 (seven years ago) link
i wanna see FJM and Dave Longstreth fight MMA style
― flappy bird, Saturday, 8 April 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link
either captivating or infuriatingfeel like this type of false dilemma is often made by fans (or braggadocio rappers) and that the vast majority in fact find finds fjm neither
― niels, Saturday, 8 April 2017 15:45 (seven years ago) link
― doug watson, Friday, April 7, 2017 11:38 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― royce jung (slothroprhymes), Monday, 10 April 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link
i actually like everything about FJM except his music. it's a drag― flappy bird, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:51 (two weeks ago)
― flappy bird, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:51 (two weeks ago)
exact opposite for me.
which is probably why i love my J. Tillman albums but haven't gotten around to the last two FJMs.
― alpine static, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link
i hate him
― joshywinty (josh), Monday, 10 April 2017 03:34 (seven years ago) link
there are some really lovely songs on those Tillman albums tbf
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 10 April 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link
you mean if you like watered-down, generic indie folkTM and you really really really wish Sam Beam would release his earliest, crappiest demos, yeah, totally
― Wimmels, Monday, 10 April 2017 12:49 (seven years ago) link
I've heard every Iron and Wine album and I don't think "Laborless Land," "Our Beloved Tyrant" and several others are beneath him at all.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 10 April 2017 13:10 (seven years ago) link
my opinion is that he's good and that this album is good
― it me, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link
I like this dude's music a lot. I'm listening to the new one for the first time. Some of it is good but man oh man this song Leaving LA is a slog.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 02:58 (seven years ago) link
This guy is having a huge moment, right? I was in a tiny record store on Friday and no joke like 10 people in a row came in and bought this record, which was retailing for $35 (!) because it was a deluxe first day edition with special artwork. It was pretty impressive - who else in the indie world gets people out for a new record like that right now?
I bought it on CD ($8.99!) and I like the first three or four songs a bunch, but it feels like a loooooong album with a bunch of songs in the middle that feel like first drafts of the first three or four songs.
― Jalapeño Coladas, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 06:33 (seven years ago) link
Heard one of his new singles and it made me wanna hear Elton John's "Honky Chateau" instead. Seems like a normal reaction.
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 06:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggwo_31LFfo
― Jalapeño Coladas, Friday, 14 April 2017 06:11 (seven years ago) link
I'm into this record. The lyrics are over-the-top and often side on too clever instead of flowing with the music but it nets out positive.
― yesca, Friday, 14 April 2017 08:37 (seven years ago) link
Still hate the style but the lyrics to "The Night Josh Tillman Came To Our Apt" are hilarious.
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Sunday, 16 April 2017 09:00 (seven years ago) link
Watched this guy on the Coachella live stream Friday night. It was my first exposure to him. I hope it will also be the last. Is he serious or not? Is this a parody of an artist that takes themselves way too seriously or is this guy really like that? Lyrically, he seems to be trying very, very hard to seem deep and insightful, or at least 'honest' and direct, but it's just embarrassing to watch. Seemed extremely pretentious. Guess it makes a nice contrast to Gryffin, who was miming behind a Novation workstation in tight white jeans. Maybe you need the salty rim on your fruity drinks these days. I'm baffled though.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 16 April 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
Is this a parody of an artist that takes themselves way too seriously or is this guy really like that?
if you start a po-faced indie band to satirize other po-faced indie ppl, at the end of the day are you still a po-faced indie person? Hmmm... Gonna say yeah. In fact your entire paradigm is exposed and you are inescapably corny at that point. so really there is no distinction.
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 16 April 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
so does "too clever" mean it's not clever enough? what makes a music/pop/indie artist "extremely pretentious" ? is there a sort of posturing going on that makes it inauthentic?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 16 April 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link
I think he is one of the most authentic artists ever. his music and persona tell you everything you need to know about him. it doesn't matter to what degree he is 'posturing' bc if you can choose how to present youself, why the fuck would you posture that way ?
― sleepingbag, Monday, 17 April 2017 00:35 (seven years ago) link
wow no. 1 on Billboard rock chart (for what that's worth) http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7767985/father-john-misty-pure-comedy-rock-album-charts-number-one
I finally listened to the whole thing and whoever said upthread that every song is like a "last song on the album" is kind of right, except to me it's more like the whole album is just one looooong last song. It feels ambitious, like a concept record. I do miss some of the sonic variety of the previous albums - tempos never really get above a mild trot here, and he relies heavily on relatively small number of certain chord progression/compositional tricks. It's bizarre to me that something this ponderous and wordy is so successful but also great. I was casting about for comparisons and I think the Nilsson/Steely Dan/Randy Newman comparisons are still p apt (altho tbf Nilsson never went so far into this social commentary sorta stuff, and Misty isn't quite the storyteller Fagan is, at least not on this album) - but my brother also threw out Jarvis Cocker, which also struck me as on point. As a pop provocateur he is v satisfying imo.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link
"total entertainment forever" is an amazing song
― Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:16 (seven years ago) link
I'm not going to listen to that song but from reading the lyrics I don't see why Arcade Fire are (rightfully) called out for this shit and FJM gets a pass:
Bedding Taylor SwiftEvery night inside the Oculus RiftAfter mister and the missus finish dinner and the dishesAnd now the future's definition is so much higher than it was last yearIt's like the images have all become realAnd someone's living my life for me out in the mirrorNo, can you believe how far we've comeIn the New Age?Freedom to have what you wantIn the New Age we'll all be entertainedRich or poor, the channels are all the sameYou're a star now, baby, so dry your tearsYou're just like themWake on up from the nightmareCome onOh ho ohOhOh ho ohNo gods to rule usNo drugs to soothe usNo myths to prove stuffNo love to confuse usNot bad for a race of demented monkeysFrom a cave to a city to a permanent partyCome onOh ho ohOhOh ho ohWhen the historians find us we'll be in our homesPlugged into our hubsSkin and bonesA frozen smile on every faceAs the stories replayThis must have been a wonderful place
No, can you believe how far we've comeIn the New Age?Freedom to have what you wantIn the New Age we'll all be entertainedRich or poor, the channels are all the sameYou're a star now, baby, so dry your tearsYou're just like themWake on up from the nightmare
Come onOh ho ohOhOh ho oh
No gods to rule usNo drugs to soothe usNo myths to prove stuffNo love to confuse us
Not bad for a race of demented monkeysFrom a cave to a city to a permanent party
When the historians find us we'll be in our homesPlugged into our hubsSkin and bonesA frozen smile on every faceAs the stories replayThis must have been a wonderful place
― niels, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:20 (seven years ago) link
called out for what? the taylor swift line? being concerned about a generation consumed by escapism?
― Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:21 (seven years ago) link
no no, just the clichéd criticism of contemporary society/technology
didn't mean to sound like an idiot btw, I'm fairly sure I heard the song when it was released and it didn't do anything for me, that's why I'm not keen to revisit
― niels, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link
apart from the Swift/Rift reference those lyrics could have been from the 60s
― niels, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link
I'm a big fan of "i hate to say it but each other's all we've got" at the end of the opening track on the album, not just the line, the way he delivers it. Listening to some of the rest of the album, he must be a big Vonnegut fan i'm guessing.
― piscesx, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link
His delivery is a BIG part of the appeal. Win Butler does not come close. Win Butler's not in the same universe.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 30 October 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link
yeah they do totally different things imo
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 October 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link
no doubt, I happen to find FJM's delivery more intolerable - listening to the song now and if ever there was a voice too clever for it's own good...
but I shouldn't comment so much on stuff I don't like
― niels, Monday, 30 October 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
― Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:16 (four hours ago) Permalink
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ezpg04.jpg
― sleepingbag, Monday, 30 October 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
I am simple, and easily amused.
Here's Father John Misty (Josh Tillman) during a chapel service, from my 1999 Montrose Christian School yearbook. pic.twitter.com/vsWsoVafnv— C.D. Carter's good account (ironically) (@CDCarter13) November 17, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link
idgi
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link
he's been p upfront that he was raised in a weird Xtian fundie family
It's the wording of the caption that gets me.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link
"I'm recording sweet solos for the Lord." "How does--" "Shh."
he was just jammin for the Lamb
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link
Sort of related, but was just thinking I'd totally be into a FJM Christmas album.
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link
Elton John's been mentioned a few times itt, "Ballad of the Dying Man" came on shuffle recently and before I skipped it I was struck by how reminiscent it was of a Captain Fantastic track
― niels, Monday, 11 December 2017 07:20 (seven years ago) link
New Single:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n38R1JTEAPo
Apparently the new album is a Concept Album about being Fucked Up In A Hotel (or, in other words, the most FJM thing FJM has ever FJM-d)
― ...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 February 2018 04:26 (six years ago) link
I was interested in his thing at first but the longer he keeps up with this schtick the grosser it seems and it’s retroactively ruining my enjoyment for his earlier material.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 February 2018 07:13 (six years ago) link
"total entertainment forever" is an amazing song― Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:16 (three months ago) Permalink
were you high bro
― trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link
"it’s retroactively ruining my enjoyment for his earlier material."
Yes, I'm experiencing this.
― djh, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
more like father dumb shitty
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link
― trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:39 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I wasn’t but I am sort of mystified at my positive first reaction to it now.
― treeship 2, Monday, 26 February 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link
he's not doubled down, but quadrupled down on the meta-josh-fjm schtick. tiresome.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:51 (six years ago) link
One of the 2 new songs; Just Dumb Enough To Try is fantastic IMO.
'"Josh Tillman has said the new album is “the real I Love You, Honeybear but without the cynicism”'.
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/files/2018/04/fjm.jpg
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
new album is great. Definitely feels like a "smaller" record than "Pure Comedy" even though there's still a lot of big-sounding orchestration and slow piano balladry. Lot of great, funny lines, that's for sure.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
Jason Isbell's here as wellAnd he seemed a little worried about you
They're co-headlining this summer!?!? Maybe they'll duet that song?
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
man I really like God's Favorite Customer.
― brimstead, Monday, 18 March 2019 05:17 (five years ago) link
He's Back...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES2WW4JJ_84
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 20:51 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkzXL-KO5w
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 20:52 (two years ago) link
Two hour long Barbican show from earlier tonight. Many new bangers debuted. He legit sounds like Manhattan Transfer on a couple. Not a bad thing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIPp53FTYpU
― piscesx, Thursday, 7 April 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o93hYhytAmI
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 11 November 2022 22:19 (two years ago) link
the album from this year is really great. Stunning live show too.
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Friday, 11 November 2022 22:29 (two years ago) link
This is pretty damn great:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGk0QUXXj-4
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 16:25 (ten months ago) link
I haven't kept up with FJM but gave the new one a spin and was impressed. First track and "Screamland" especially.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 11 December 2024 16:11 (one week ago) link
"Screamland" is epic, some other tracks hit on first listen but not at the same level. Will spin again.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 11 December 2024 19:28 (one week ago) link