THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58

Hard and fast rules:
1. Song must be at minimum 10 minutes in duration.
2. No classical. Jazz, techno, ambient, noodly beardo jams all ok.
3. You can nominate up to 20 tracks. You don't have to nominate all at once, but please keep track yourselves. Post 'em here.
4. Nominations close on Pi Day (March 14).

Further guidelines:
Multi-movement pieces that are continuous on a single release but also separated into different tracks will generally be accepted, especially if they are considered part of a larger unifying whole. For instance, Boris' Flood would qualify, but Ghost's "Hypnotic Underworld" would not -- use your best judgment.

Pharaoh Sanders - The Creator Has A Master Plan
Sonic Youth - The Diamond Sea

Alexander O'Neal - Innocent
Zeppelin - In My Time of Dying

Yo La Tengo - Night Falls on Hoboken
LCD Soundsystem - 45:33

4/20

Can - Halleluwah
Yes - Close to the Edge
Rush - Cygnus X-1
Jethro Tull - Thick as Brick, Part I
Elton John - Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding
Stereolab - Jennie Ondioline
Yes - The Gates of Delirium
Swans - The Seer
Pink Floyd - Dogs

Isaac Hayes - By the Time I Get to Phoenix
NOFX - The Decline
Destroyer - The Laziest River
Weird Al Yankovic - Albuquerque
Boris - Absolutego

Kendrick Lamar - "About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst
David Bowie - Station to Station

La Düsseldorf - Düsseldorf
International Harvester - I Mourn You
Brainticket - Brainticket Part II

(3/20)

First three that sprang immediately to mind, no doubt I will come up with lots more. I kind of want to nominate "infinite nyan" but that would be a dick move, I guess (also would technically count as a locked groove and those are obviously disqualified).

hoooo boy, I got 20

Faust - No Harm
Denki Groove - Niji
The Orb - Towers of Dub
Boredoms - Super Shine
Echolyn - Mei
Underworld - Thing in a Book
Van der Graaf Generator - Plague of Lighthouse Keepers
Magma - Kohntarkosz
Dan Deacon - Wham City
Yes - Close to the Edge
Utopia - The Ikon
Deluge Grander - August in the Urals
Glass Hammer - Run Lisette

Theres 13 - I can definitely do 7 more :)

ok, 7 more

Haruomi Hosono - Memphis, Milano
Towa Tei - Everything We Do is Music
Genesis - The Musical Box
Orbital - The Girl With the Sun in Her Head
The Chemical Bros. - Escape Velocity
Autechre - Rsdio
Modest Mouse - Truckers Atlas

dj screw - june 27th
donna summer - love to love you baby
michael shrieve - transfer station blue
marvin gaye - got to give it up (parts 1 and 2)
traffic - the low spark of high-heeled boys
art of noise - moments in love
deep purple - child in time

7/20

(in descending order of duration)

Goldie - Timeless
Donna Summer - MacArthur Park Suite
Underworld - Juanita:Kiteless:To Dream of Love
Steve Miller Band - Macho City
Herbie Hancock - Chameleon
Funkadelic - (Not Just) Knee Deep
Roni Size - Watching Windows [Roni Size Meets Nuyorican Soul]
Fela Kuti - Lady
Ken Nordine - 7+1
Kerri Chandler - Six Pianos
Pépé Bradock - Deep Burnt
Theo Parrish - Solitary Flight
Terre Thaemlitz - Hush Now [DJ Sprinkles Broken Record Mix]
Paul McCartney - Secret Friend
Stevie Wonder - Do I Do
The Roots - Water
Nina Simone - Sinnerman
Yukihiro Fukutomi - Open Our Eyes
Björk - Black Lake
Erykah Badu - Green Eyes

Fairport Convention - A Sailor's Life
Incredible String Band - A Very Cellular Song
Nina Simone - Sinnerman xp nm
Boredoms - Boriginal (Super roots 7)
Tantra - Hills of Katmandu

Miles Davis - He Loved Him Madly
Daft Punk - Too Long
Neil Young - Cowgirl in the Sand
Keith Fullerton Whitman - Feedback Zwei
Laurie Spiegel - The Expanding Universe
William Onyeabor - Good Name
Wipers - Youth of America
Can - Soup
Can - Chain Reaction
Burial - Rival Dealer
The Microphones - The Glow
Motion Sickness of Time Travel - Telepathy
Boredoms - Circle (1st track on VCN)
Edgar Froese - NGC 891
John Coltrane - Africa
Kraftwerk - Autobahn
Sandy Bull - Blend II
Gavin Bryars - The Sinking of the Titanic
Gavin Bryars - Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet
Brian Eno - Discreet Music

20/20

Destroyer - Bay Of Pigs
Can - Yoo Doo Right
Sonic Youth - Diamond Sea
Animal Collective - Alvin Row
Yo La Tengo - Blue Line Swinger

5/20

Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight
Argo Guthrie - Alice's Restaurant

Grateful Dead - Dark Star (Live/Dead version)
Henry Flynt - Blue Sky, Highway and Thyme
Manuel Gottsching - Quiet Nervousness
Dump - International Airport
Grachan Moncur III - When
Bob Dylan - Desolation Row
Chris Stamey Experience - Let's Go Downtown
Arvo Pärt - Spiegel Im Spiegel
Henry Flynt - Jamboree
Rammellzee vs. K-Rob - Beat Bop

Bob Dylan - Joey
Boys Town Gang - Cruisin' the Streets
Creedence Clearwater Revival - I Heard it Through the Grapevine
Fela Kuti - No Agreement
Funkadelic - Good Thoughts, Bad Thoughts
Jimmy Eat World - Goodbye Sky Harbor
Joel Plaskett - On & On & On

7/20

Nina Simone - Sinnerman

Damn, I would've forgotten this!

Arvo Pärt - Spiegel Im Spiegel

Not sure about this, violates the spirit of the No Classical rule.

I thought of it more as ambient, but I'm never sure where the lines between classical/20th-century/ambient exist.

Juno - The French Letter
Chore - A Coma
The Gathering - How to Measure a Planet
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Babe, I'm On Fire
Of Montreal - The Past is a Grotesque Animal
Tool - Third Eye
King Crimson - Starless
Agalloch - Black Lake Niðstång

pink floyd - echoes

8/20

funkadelic - maggot brain

9/20

jimi hendrix experience - voodoo chile

(10/20)

dinosaur - kiss me again
doors - when the music's over
martin circus - disco circus

(13/20)

Neu! - Hallogallo

6/20

In the epics poll, everyone will be famous for 10+ minutes.

The Velvet Underground - Sister Ray

7/20

frogbs, you have one more, since someone already nominated Yes's "Close to the Edge".

Godspeed You Black Emperor - "Dead Flag Blues"
Spiritualized - "Angel Sigh"/"Sway"/"400 Bars" (Black)
Lee Morgan - "Search For the New Land"*

* Wayne Shorter & Herbie Hancock & Grant Green are all in the band+all take solos

The Dismemberment Plan - Respect Is Due
Darkthrone - Leave No Cross Unturned
Dexys Midnight Runners - This Is What She's Like
James Blackshaw - Arc
Vektor - Cosmic Cortex
(13/20)

already-nominated things I'd like2 2nd: CCR "Grapevine" VU "Sister Ray" Funkadelic "Maggot Brain" #mybeautifuldarktwistedcanon

Weakling - "Dead As Dreams"

which brings me to....... 4/20

I don't think Hallogallo clears 10 minutes. Fur Immer makes it, though.

I looked at the track listing on Wikipedia which has it listed as 10:07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neu!_%28album%29

do commercially-released live concert recordings of songs that fall short of the 10-minute mark in a prior commercially-released recording count?
what about medleys?

Six Organs of Admittance - "River of Transfiguration"
(5/20)
I also want to nom an Om song, but it's so hard to pick just one!

Low - Do You Know How to Waltz?
NoMeansNo - Bitch's Brew
Moderat - Milk
Gang Gang Dance - Glass Jar
The Juan Maclean - Happy House
Lou Reed - Street Hassle
Gillian Welch - I Dream a Highway
(20/20)

Peter Hammill - Flight
Peter Hammill - A Headlong Stretch
Peter Hammill - The Light Continent

(3/20)

do commercially-released live concert recordings of songs that fall short of the 10-minute mark in a prior commercially-released recording count?

I'll allow it.

what about medleys?

I'm going to say no, since they're typically distinct songs. For the same reason, I'm going to say that the Spiritualized nomination shouldn't qualify -- "Angel Sigh", "Sway", and "200 Bars" are individual songs that happen to have been merged into one track by dint of of J Spaceman's pretensions.

at the same time: my first experience of the music, on CD, was that it was very inconvenient to listen to anything less than an entire "suite" in one go! xP
Not trying to argue with you, just being rhetorical...
(4/20)

Does "The Rainbow/Eden/Desire" by Talk Talk count?

True enough, and I knew there were going to be weird cases that are going to come down to some kind of judgment call. xp

Joanna Newsom - Emily
Joanna Newsom - Only Skin

2/20

last question: can I nominate the entirety of Fuck Buttons' Street Horrrsing under the Boris Flood provision? because all of the track divisions are seamless, & I think of the whole album as of a single piece...

OH SHIT HOW COULD I FORGET

Acid Mothers Temple - "La le lo"

!?!?!

Does "The Rainbow/Eden/Desire" by Talk Talk count?

last question: can I nominate the entirety of Fuck Buttons' Street Horrrsing under the Boris Flood provision? because all of the track divisions are seamless, & I think of the whole album as of a single piece...

I'm not sure about these... with Flood, the track names are all eponymous with sequential part numbers. Street Horrrsing, seamless as it is, has different track names (and I don't think of it as a single composition, I always single out "Sweet Love for Planet Earth"). If it's any consolation, I'm probably going to nominate "Surf Solar."

I'm not familiar enough with the Talk Talk to determine whether or not it's a single composition.

I'm inclined to say that, if a continuous composition is split into multiple tracks, then it should share a title in some way to qualify -- otherwise, we'd have too many songs that merely segue into each other getting nominated (e.g. "Airbag" into "Paranoid Android").

Deathprod - Dead People's Things
Dirty Three - Deep Waters
Earth - Seven Angels
Electric Wizard - Return Trip
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch
The Fall - And This Day
Studio - Life's a Beach!
Flying Saucer Attack - Popol Vuh 1
Glenn Branca - The Spectacular Commodity
Gong - Flying Teapot
Suicide - Frankie Teardrop
Harvey Milk - My Broken Heart Will Never Mend
Converge - Jane Doe
Television - Marquee Moon
Sun Kil Moon - Duk Koo Kim
Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air
Ash Ra Tempel - Amboss
King Crimson - Starless
Scott Walker - Clara
Slowdive - Rutti

20/20

Cecil Taylor European Orchestra - "Involution/Evolution"
Cecil Taylor European Orchestra - "Weight - Breath - Sounding Trees"
John Coltrane - "Om"
Bill Dixon Orchestra - "Metamorphosis 1962 - 1966"
The Who - "My Generation" (from Live at Leeds)
John Coltrane - "Spiritual" (from "Live" at the Village Vanguard

(6/20)

20/20

dead c - outside
sandy bull - blend
john fahey - requiem for molly
velvet underground - ocean (1969 vu live)
patty waters - black is the color of my true love's hair
pharoah sanders - hum-allah-hum-allah-hum-allah
baden baden free jazz orchestra - gittin' to know y'all
pärson sound - tio minuter
folke rabe - what??
faust - krautrock!
soft machine - moon in june (third)
hawkwind - orgone accumulator
dr john the night tripper - angola anthem
the fugs - virgin forest
jerry garcia - lateforsupperspidergawdeephour
fripp & eno - heavenly music corporation
flying saucer attack - in search of spaces
charalambides - into the earth
pentangle - jack orion
throbbing gristle - very friendly

the garcia probs doesn't count, but there you go

ne obliviscaris - forget not
agalloch - our fortress is burning (3 parts)

awesome poll. will think on this.

Here's a dozen...

Sex - The Necks
Mumps - Hatfield and the North
America - Yes
The Adventures of Greggary Peccary - Frank Zappa
I Trawl the Megahertz - Paddy McAloon
The End - Doors
Singring and the Glass Guitar - Utopia
Montana Song - David Ackles
Sorrow, Tears and Blood - Fela Kuti
Ommadawn (Pt.1) - Mike Oldfield
All Blues - Miles Davis
E2-E4 - Manuel Gottsching

(Damn! Springsteen's 'New York City Serenade' five seconds too short!)

I thought of it more as ambient, but I'm never sure where the lines between classical/20th-century/ambient exist.

Yeah this might get tricky, p sure Karl's bryars nominations would be disallowed too

Richard Dawson "The Vile Stuff"
Sicle Cell & Rhapazooty "Rhapazooty in Blue"
Ice Cube "Bop Gun"
Stereolab & Nurse With Wound "Simple Headphone Mind"
Butthole Surfers "Jimi"
Beastie Boys "B-Boy Bouillabaisse"
The Seeds "Up In Her Room"
Jimi Hendrix "1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)"
Underworld "Cups"
Underworld "Mmm Skyscraper I Love You"
Simply Saucer "Illegal Bodies"
The Mars Volta "L'Via L'Viaquez"
Yo La Tengo "Pass the Hatchet I Think I'm Goodkind"
Studio "Out There"
Electric Wizard "Weird Tales"
Sleep "Dopesmoker"

16/20

man, this thread could spawn a monolithic playlist

Television-Marquee Moon
Television - Little Johnny Jewel - live version on the 12" b-side
Alain Renaud - back and in
Velvet underground - sister ray
Stereolab - Jenny ondioline - l.p. Version
Oasis - Falling Down monstrous etc remix
Flaming Lips - I found a star on the ground
Roy Harper - one of those days in England (side 2 off the album)

That's eight, will maybe think on some more.

i already mentioned Marquee Moon, but thanks for including some Roy Harper!

Roy Harper - The Game
Yes - Awaken
Gong - You'll Never Blow Your Trip Forever
Einstürzende Neubauten - Headcleaner
Einstürzende Neubauten - Perpetuum Mobile

Wanted to vote for Pendulum Man by Bark Psychosis but it is 5 seconds short of the mark alas.

Wizzard - Meet me at the jailhouse

Does the 'no classical' rule rule out Robert Ashley and Alvin Lucier? Where does classical end?

Lucier is idm

learning that a lot of rock songs that i thin of as 'epics' aren't as long as i'd thought

Donna Summer - I Feel Love (Patrick Cowley Megamix)
Fela Kuti - Water Get No Enemy
Negativland - Helter Stupid
Public Image Ltd - Albatross
Les Rallizes Dénudés - Night of the Assasins

(5/20)

50 Foot Wave - Power+Light

x-post: ^had to drop the dead's what's become of the baby, isb's duck on a pond and aec's theme de yoyo for that very reason :-(

also turns out orgone accumulator is 9.59 according to wikipedia, so feel free to sub in la monte young's the well-tuned piano for that if you want (unless shut out due to the classical clause)

Meat Loaf - I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)
Isaac Hayes - Walk On By
Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

(10/20)

The original album version of "Marquee Moon" runs 9:11...don't hate me.

I would have included it otherwise. I used my Mp3tag directory to make up my list--you can arrange everything you have by song length. (Assume you can do that with an iPod, too.)

Red House Painters - Mother
Red House Painters - Down Colorful Hill
Rush - Fountain Of Lamneth
Diamanda Galas - Free Among The Dead
Jon Anderson - Moon Ra
Chris Squire - Silently Falling
Vangelis - Heaven And Hell Part 1
Frost - Milliontown
Devil Doll - Sacrilegium
Trance To The Sun - Horse Head Lake
Jacula - Praesentia Domini
Jacula - Magister Dixit

Devil Doll - Mr Doctor
Devil Doll - Eliogabalus

QUESTIONS
1) Do live versions count as separate noms if they are formally released and also notably different from the original?

2) If something is technically a medley but contained/released within one track, is that acceptable?

Check that--my mp3 of "Marquee Moon" runs 9:11, but Wikipedia has it at 9:58, and so does my vinyl LP. Either my mp3 is abridged (by a lot), or the LP time has been incorrect all along. Technically, it falls short either way.

Wish I had more metal suggestions, but most of my favourite epics are under 10mins.

six organs of admittance - school of the flower

(3/20)

Shirley and Dolly Collins - A Song Story
Can - Mother Sky
UFOMAMMUT - Sulphurdew
Pharaoh Sanders - Black Unity
(4/20)

if Marquee Moon doesn't count, i'd like my 20th nom to be Love from Room 109 at the Islander (On Pacific Coast Highway) by Tim Buckley

Would Godspeed You Black Emperor's Slow Riot for New Zerø Kanada EP count as one long epic or would the two tracks be counted separately?

acid mothers temple - la le lo
mercyful fate - satan's fall
mastodon - hearts alive

brings me to 7/20

HUSKER DU - REOCCURRING DREAMS

Would Godspeed You Black Emperor's Slow Riot for New Zerø Kanada EP count as one long epic or would the two tracks be counted separately?

― MarkoP, Sunday, March 1, 2015 2:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Two completely different tracks iirc?

Arthur Russell - In the Light of the Miracle
Santa Esmeralda - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
Jimi Hendrix - Machine Gun
Lindstrom - Where You Go I Go Too
Marcos Cabral & Shux - A Lifetime Groove
Sonic Youth - Hits of Sunshine (for Allen Ginsberg)
Godspeed You Black Emperor - Moya
Inner Life - Ain't No Mountain High Enough
War - The World is a Ghetto
The Knife - Colouring of Pigeons

Yeah after listening and thinking about it, they do seem more separate.

Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Blaise Bailey Finnegan III

Beatles - "Revolution 1, take 20"
Duke Ellington - "Diminuendo in Blue and Crescendo in Blue" (from Ellington at Newport)
Duke Ellington - "Ad Lib on Nippon"
Jimmy Smith - "The Duel"
Milford Graves - "Bäbi"
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - "Love and Only Love"
Sun Ra - "The Magic City"
James Brown - "Make it Funky" (from Revolution of the Mind)
John Cale - "Summer Heat"

15/20

Osymyso - Intro-Inspection
(12/20)

Art Zoyd - Musique Pour L'Odyssée
Art Zoyd - Brigades Spéciales

Does the 'no classical' rule rule out Robert Ashley and Alvin Lucier? Where does classical end?

Personally I'd say that "classical" is a piece of music with a score that could, theoretically, be played on "standard" instrumentation. So Arvo Part = classical, Alvin Lucier's I Am Sitting In A Room doesn't.
In C, I'm not sure about.

Jim O'Rourke - 94 The Long Way
Tortoise - Djed
John Fahey - Fare Forward Voyagers
Th' Faith Healers - Everything, All At Once, Forever
Boris - Flood

10/20

Fela Kuti - Coffin for Head Of State
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Neil Young - Ordinary People
Bob Dylan - Highlands
Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V)
Rolling Stones - Going Home
Van Morrison - Listen To The Lion
Van Morrison - Almost Independence Day

8/20

Scott Walker - SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)

obv the rules are yr choice but an epics poll where the Who's "A Quick One" isn't eligible is lacking imo

Tangerine Dream - Birth Of Liquid Plejades
Henry Cow - Living In The Heart Of The Beast
Magma - De Futura
Rush - Xanadu
Sun Ra - Space Is The Place
Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express (if this counts, I always thought of it as a unified piece)
Alvin Lucier - I Am Sitting In A Room
Groundhogs - Split (parts 1-4)
AMM - Combine + Laminates
Eddie Palmieri - Un Dia Bonita

(10/20)

Robert Ashley - The Park
Horace Tapscott - The Dark Tree
John Fahey - Dalhart, Texas 1967
Harold Budd - Bismillahi 'Rrahman 'Rrahim
Pantha du Prince - Spectral Split
Jerry Garcia & David Grisman - Arabia
Lindstrom - The Long Way Home
Alice Coltrane - Atma Rama
Gilberto Gil & Jorge Ben - Taj Mahal
Sam Mangwana - Maria Tebbo
Don Cherry - Malkauns
Kate Bush - Misty
Joe McPhee - Shakey Jake
Thelonious Monk - Ba-Lue Bolivar Ba-Lues Are
Baden Powell - Canto de Xango
Luomo - Tessio
Charles Mingus - Haitian Fight Song
Crusaders - Street Life
Herbie Hancock - I Have a Dream
Henry Threadgill - 100 Year Old Game

The Orb - A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld (Loving You)
Yes - Ritual: Nous Sommes Du Soleil
Scott Walker - Clara
Thelonius Monk - Ba Lue Bolivar Ba-Lues-Are
Miles Davis - Shhh/Peaceful
Stereolab - Blue Milk
Stereolab - Silver Sands (Emperor Machine Remix)
Lindstrøm & Prins Thomas - Nummer fire en
Lindstrøm - Grand Ideas
Lindstrøm - Hina
Prins Thomas - Bobletekno
Orbital - Out There Somewhere

12/20

Groundhogs ref just reminded me:

Tony McPhee - The Hunt

(4/20)

Lee Ranaldo - Ambient Loop for Vancouver
Brian Eno - 1/1
Jim O’Rourke - The Visitor
Frank Zappa - Dupree’s Paradise (YCDTOSA Vol 2)
Miles Davis - Go Ahead John
Miles - In a Silent Way/It’s About That Time
Matmos - …and Silver Light Popped in His Eyes
George Lewis - Homage to Charles Parker
Tony Oxley Quintet - Stone Garden
Stereolab - Refractions in the Plastic Pulse
Peter Brötzmann Octet - Machine Gun
Frank Zappa - Lumpy Gravy
Pauline Oliveros/Deep Listening Band - Lear
Fantomas - Delirium Cordia
John Fahey - On the Death and Disembowelment of the New Age
John McLaughlin - Devotion
The Nazz - A Beautiful Song
John Oswald/Grateful Dead - Transitive Axis (Grayfolded)
John Zorn - Redbird
Ornette Coleman - Free Jazz

20/20

"Clara" already nominated, so for my 12th substitute this, why not:

Scott Walker - SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)

and someone beat me to Monk as well! #badmaths

Brüder des Schattens – Söhne des Lichts - Popol Vuh
Vuh - Popol Vuh
Einsjäger und Siebenjäger - Popol Vuh
Hosianna-Mantra - Popol Vuh
Affenstunde - Popol Vuh

Tony Oxley Quintet - Stone Garden

Good choice!

xp - that's (9/20)

Les Rallizes Denudes - Night of the Assassin
Neu! - Fur Immer
Fela Kuti - Dog Eat Dog
Acid Mothers Temple - Speed Guru
Gravitar - The Real II
Oneida - Sheets of Easter
Pharaoh Overlord - Rodent
Sungod - Gas is Better Than Gas
Pink Floyd - Sheep

(9/20)

Wikipedia notes ""Marquee Moon", shortened on the original LP, was restored to its complete length of 10:40 on the 2003 remastered CD".
10:47 actually is what I have: http://www.discogs.com/Television-Marquee-Moon/release/557233

I'll nominate it.

I'm slightly fuzzy on the rules: does AD2's "Restless Skylight Transistor Child" count? It's all one continuous track on my CD version of Tanz but its def a whole made up of discreet units with stopping and silence each time

do not want these songs to be disqualified bc i posted backwards in haste
whoops

Popol Vuh - Brüder des Schattens – Söhne des Lichts
Popol Vuh - Vuh
Popol Vuh - Einsjäger und Siebenjäger
Popol Vuh - Hosianna-Mantra
Popol Vuh - Affenstunde

(9/20)

'Joey' Bob Dylan
'Trilogy' Sonic Youth
'Tick of the Clock' Chromatics

4/20

O christ

this poll exists

Oh shit, I need to make 1 change.

Remove: John Zorn - Redbird
Add: Naked City - Leng Tch'e

(and here's hoping someone nominates Naked City's "Grand Guignol")

Some disco epics:

Beautiful Bend - Make That Feeling Come Again!
USA-European Connection - Come Into My Heart
Giorgio Moroder - Battlestar Galactica (Medley)

14/20

All 20 of mine:

Yo La Tengo - Blue Line Swinger
Yo La Tengo - Spec Bebop
Built To Spill - Cortez The Killer (live)
Of Montreal - The Past is a Grotesque Animal
Wilco - One Sunday Morning
Spiritualized - Cop Shoot Cop
Mogwai - Mogwai Fear Satan
Underworld - Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love
Underworld - Dark and Long (Dark Train)
Autechre Garbagemx
Orbital - Are We Here?
Orbital - Attached
Neu! - Hallogallo
Can - Bel Air
Neil Young - Cowgirl in the Sand
Television - Marquee Moon
Miles Davis - Shhh/Peaceful
John Coltrane - Africa
Esbjorn Svensson Trio - Behind the Yashmark
The Necks - Abillera

Here's my 20:

Alice Coltrane - Los Caballos
Vladislav Delay - Anima
MFSB featuring The Three Degrees - Love Is the Message (Tom Moulton Mix)
Herbie Hancock - Hornets
Roberta Flack - I Can See the Sun in Late December
Elektronik (Pete Namlook & Material Object) - Planular
Constance Demby - Radiance
Joe Henderson featuring Alice Coltrane - Fire
Wechselspannung - 220 V
Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Relevée (Carl Graig Remix)
Jon & Vangelis - The Friends of Mr. Cairo
Shades of Orion - Biotrip
Air Liquide - Space Brothers
Marilyn Mazur's Future Song - First Dream
Gas - Königsforst 5
Tetsu Inoue - Bionic Commune
Nina Simone - My Sweet Lord / Today Is a Killer
Kébekélektrik - Bolero
Psychic Warriors ov Gaia - Obsidian (Deconstructure)
K-Hand - You and Me

The Nina Simone song is not a medley, despite the name, it combines the George Harrison song and her own composition into one whole.

Isn't that the definition of a medley?

Against the 80s,

Miles Davis - Shhh/Peaceful
John Coltrane - Africa

were already nominated upthread.

Sorry, the penultimate entry has a typo, it should read:

Psychick Warriors ov Gaia - Obsidian (Deconstructure)

(x-post)

Hallogallo has also already been nominated.

Isn't that the definition of a medley?

I dunno, in my opinion a medley goes like this: Tune A -> segue -> Tube B -> segue -> Tune C -> etc. The different tunes in the medley are mostly separate entitities, they just segue from one to another. "My Sweet Lord / Today Is a Killer", on the other hand, is basically the George Harrison tune with the Nina Simone composition (which I don't think has ever been recorded as a separate song) inserted as a short C part, after which she goes back to "My Sweet Lord" for the rest of the performance. If you're not familiar with the George Harrison's original, you wouldn't even notice the insertion, you'd think it's all one song.

Joni Mitchell, "Paprika Plains"
Fela Kuti, "Shakara"
Primal Scream, "Trainspotting"
John Coltrane, "My Favorite Things"
Ani DiFranco, "Pulse"
Spiritualized, "Won't Get To Heaven (The State I'm In)"
Beth Orton, "Galaxy of Emptiness"

Ah, very sorry - I misread the rules. There are a few more I repeated, I'm afraid :-(

I think this is the full set of duplicates to be removed from my list:

Yo La Tengo - Blue Line Swinger
Of Montreal - The Past is a Grotesque Animal
Neu! - Hallogallo
Neil Young - Cowgirl in the Sand
Television - Marquee Moon
Miles Davis - Shhh/Peaceful
John Coltrane - Africa

Personally I'd say that "classical" is a piece of music with a score that could, theoretically, be played on "standard" instrumentation. So Arvo Part = classical, Alvin Lucier's I Am Sitting In A Room doesn't.

I totally agree with this, I don't think the Pärt piece should count. "Spiegel Im Spiegel" doesn't have any a definite length in minutes, it depends on the performance, plus it has different arrangements by Pärt too. I have one recording of it arranged for cello and piano that only lasts 9 minutes.

Rush - 2112
Bob Dylan - Brownsville Girl

10/20

Where does Steve Reich fit in the 'classical' debate ? If he's allowed I'll swap two of my duplicates for 'Music for a large Ensemble' and 'Octet' ...

Can are so going to suffer from vote-splitting.

Temple Of The Dog - Reach Down
Smashing Pumpkins - Starla
Donna Summer - Try Me I Know We Can Make It
Pram - In Dreams You Too Can Fly

4/20

I'm looking for a 10+ min version of YLT's Blue Line Swinger but haven't come up with anything. Studio version is 9:18.

only "Halleluwah" & maaaaybe "Yoo Doo Right" should get any votes imo (xpost)

I'm thinking carefull about my noms, maybe overthinking, so what the hell, here's one more: Inter Arma's 45-minute single-song Cavern EP from last year, which is probably not better than the best tracks on Sky Burial, but gets the nod for being, did we mention, 45 MINUTES LONG and EFFIN' SWEET THRUOUT

(9/20)

also that Acid Mothers Temple song is exactly 30:00

Swans - Bring The Sun/Toussaint L'Ouverture
Lou Reed & Metallica - Junior Dad
Harlow - Take Off
House Of House - Rushing To Paradise (Walkin' These Streets)
The Gloaming - Opening Set
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (Part 1)
Universal Robot Band - Barely Breaking Even
Marius Neset - Birds
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Change Your Mind
Fuck Buttons - Olympians
Faithless - Salva Mea
Orbital - Impact (The Earth Is Burning)
Fuck Buttons - Surf Solar
The Black Twig Pickers - Merry Mountain Hoedown
Moritz Von Oswald Trio - Jam
Gil Scott-Heron - "B" Movie
The Temptations - Papa Was A Rollin' Stone
Dubtribe Sound System - Do It Now
Dissidenten - Sahara Elektrik
(19/20)

Inter Arma's 45-minute single-song Cavern EP from last year
otm

Oval - Do While
Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps
Univers Zero - Jack The Ripper
Rhys Chatham - Die Donnergotter
Aphrodite's Child - All The Seats Were Occupied
Comus -Drip Drip
Ground Zero - Consume Red
Basil Kirchin - Once Upon A Time
Merzbow - Crash For Hi-Fi
Albert Ayler - Bells

(20/20)

Rhys Chatham ‎– Die Donnergötter [composed but hardly "classical"]
James Brown - Papa Don't Take No Mess
Spacemen 3 - Suicide
Darkthrone - Leave No Cross Unturned
Manilla Road - Dreams of Eschaton/Epilogue
Steve Reich - Come Out [13-min version from New Sounds in Electronic Music]
Boris - Feedbacker
Melvins - Charmicarmicat
Charles Mingus - Love Chant
Slough Feg - Ape Uprising
Windhand - Boleskine

11/20

oops, looks like the 2nd matt got the chatham, so strike that yeah

Moodymann - J.A.N.

11/12

Lou Reed & Metallica - Junior Dad

well i'm voting in this poll now

It's funny to see Steve Reich mentioned since he seems (along with some of the other big-name minimalists, & distinct from John Cage) to have reacted in a unique way to the advent of the "recorded music era", which is of course the inescapable horizon of this thread premise -- in other words, his work looks incomplete when viewed from here. But I love about 4 or 5 discs of that ginormous boxset I picked up for cheap based on ILM buzz, so I'm happy whatever we decide about his eventual eligibility for our silly little poll :P

Manuel Göttsching - Ruhige Nervosität

12/20

Iron Maiden - The Rime of the Ancient Mariner

13/20

Rare Earth - Get Ready
Circle - Lokki

2/20

Hampton Grease Band - Six

3/20

Here's my 20

Fela Kuti - Beasts of No Nation
Fela Kuti - Expensive Shit
Fela Kuti - Roforofo Fight
Fela Kuti - Mister Follow Follow
The Allman Brothers - In Memory of Elizabeth Reed (At Fillmore East version)
Sigur Ros - Svefn-g-englar
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Storm
Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand
Mogwai - Like Herod
Panda Bear - Bros.
Sleater-Kinney - Let's Call It Love
Swans - The Apostate
Yo La Tengo - Spec Bebop
Bob Dylan - Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands
Erykah Badu - Out My Mind, Just In time
Isaac Hayes - Do Your Thing
Sun Kil Moon - Tonight the Sky
Titus Andronicus - The Battle of Hampton Roads
Pink Floyd - Sheep
Kurt Vile - Goldtone

For a second I misread the OP as Rules: song must be hard & fast & I was like, does Bathory's "Blood Fire Death" count? because it's not very fast by modern standards~

Can are so going to suffer from vote-splitting.

so then vote for more than 1 can song.

Somehow forgot:

Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Driftin' Back

It's epictastically epic.

Not sure how disco will fare in this poll, but also:

O'Jays - I Love Music
McFadden & Whitehead - Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now

(12-inch versions both.)

The Chambers Brothers - Time Has Come Today

14/20

Can are so going to suffer from vote-splitting.

not to mention fela :(

The Meters - It Ain't No Use

15/20

gonna be hard not to vote a straight jazz/funk ticket

i mean just listen to that meters track, i dare you

Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Ramada Inn
Parliament - Funkentelechy

12/20

808 State - Thermo Kings
Global Communication - 14:31
Jaydee - Plastic Dreams (Long Version)
LCD Soundsystem - Freak Out/Starry Eyes
Seefeel - Spangle (Autechre Remix)
Spacemen 3 - Big City
Spacemen 3 - An Evening of Contemporary Sitar Music
The Chemical Brothers - Escape Velocity
Villalobos - Easy Lee
Woob - On Earth

10/20

The J.B.'s - Doing It to Death

16/20

Mothers of Invention - The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet

Acid Mothers Temple - La Novia
Bardo Pond - Circuit VIII
Burzum - Det som en gang var
Horseback - Chanting Out the Low Shadow
Motorpsycho - The Golden Core
Motorpsycho - The Wheel
Mount Eerie - Through the Trees

7/20

DJ Shadow - In/Flux
his first single was the best thing he ever did.

Hatfield and the North - Son Of 'There's No Place Like Homerton'
National Health - Tenemos Roads
Barry White - I Can't Believe You Love Me
Franco Battiato - Sequenze e Frequenze

4/20

James Brown - Get Up I Feel Like Being a Sex Machine ("live")

^ duh

17/20

+ derp:

James Brown - Get Up I Feel Like Being LIKE a Sex Machine

ftr

Maybe my top choice:
Catherine Ribeiro & Alpes - Paix

Duke Ellington - La Plus Belle Africane

Buncha recent stuff that I think will hold up:

Esben & the Witch - Jungle
Nisennenmondai - N (A)
Nux Vomica - Choked at the Roots

5/20

Crass - Taking Sides

my personal fave 10+ YLT...

Yo La Tengo - Pass the Hatchet, I Think I'm Goodkind

and

Bjork - Black Lake

Type O Negative - Black No. 1

lol somebody better nominate "this corrosion" then

Monster Magnet - Tab...

Studio - Out There
Secret Knowledge - Sugar Daddy
Sabres Of Paradise - Smokebelch II (David Holmes Remix)
Spiritualized - Feel So Sad (Rhapsodies)
Florian Poser - Winds
Steve Roach - Structures From Silence
Hatchback - The Violet Sequence
Union Jack - Two Full Moons and a Trout (Caspar Pound Remix)

8/20

Destroyer - The Laziest River

9/20

Voodoo chilli I nominated Sheep so you still have one

haha w/e, black no. 1 rules.

I nom'd "Out There" already.

So that's 20 for me. I tried to find some hiphop or non-jamrock stuff but there wasn't much that I actually liked. There's that 12 minute Kanye song where he spends half of it telling the story of his life, if anyone wants to go for it.

btw we're gonna need a long break between the list of nominees & the close of voting so we can all listen to as many unfamiliar songs as possible

ok so:

Richard Youngs - Advent (Part 1)
John Coltrane - Ogunde (The Olatunji Concert)
Telstar Ponies - Does Your Heart Have Wings?
Bjork - Human Behaviour (Underworld mix)
Emeralds - Genetic
Coil - The Universe Is a Haunted House
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road

7/20

Voodoo chilli I nominated Sheep so you still have one

― the saer returns (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, March 1, 2015 3:46 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I meant to nominate "Pigs," to fill out the Animals trifecta, so:

Pink Floyd - Pigs

20/20

Oneohtrix Point Never - Physical Memory

5/20

Beach Boys - Here Comes The Night (disco version)
Deathspell Omega - I (from Kenose)
Nobuo Uematsu - Dancing Mad

Red House Painters - Mother
Red House Painters - Down Colorful Hill
Rush - Fountain Of Lamneth
Diamanda Galas - Free Among The Dead
Jon Anderson - Moon Ra
Chris Squire - Silently Falling
Vangelis - Heaven And Hell Part 1
Frost - Milliontown
Devil Doll - Sacrilegium
Trance To The Sun - Horse Head Lake
Jacula - Praesentia Domini
Jacula - Magister Dixit
Devil Doll - Mr Doctor
Devil Doll - Eliogabalus
Art Zoyd - Musique Pour L'Odyssée
Art Zoyd - Brigades Spéciales
Scott Walker - SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)
Beach Boys - Here Comes The Night (disco version)
Deathspell Omega - I (from Kenose)
Nobuo Uematsu - Dancing Mad

My total list

Miles Davis - Circle in the Round
Les Rallizes Dénudés - The Last One
Van Morrison - Summertime in England
Nathan Fake - The Sky Was Pink (James Holden Remix)
Pachanga Boys - Time
Grant Green - Idle Moments
Sheila E. - A Love Bizarre
Moodymann - Runaway
Sylvester - Stars
Sylvester - I (Who Have Nothing)

10/20

these are the best songs ever/this is going to be the best poll ever

Wonder which of Marquee Moon and (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter) are going to get the most nominations...

DJ Sprinkles - Sisters, I Don't Know What This World Is Coming To
Oh, Yoko - Seashore (Sprinkles' Ambient Ballroom)

12/20

ffffffffffffff i forgot about that Shellac song from terraform.

Aphex Twin - Stone in Focus

Guys, the version of Marquee Moon on the cd is the one with the full ending and is well past ten minutes.

Burial - Ashtray Wasp

Retribution Gospel Choir - Seven
Davis Redford Triad - Hymn to the Virgin Sun Queen
The Cosmic Dead - The Black Rabbit
Gravitar - Alpha-115
Indoor Life - Voodoo
Kayo Dot - The Mortality of Doves
The Fall - Backdrop

(16/20)

Cassegrain & Tin Man - High And Low

13/20

I'm gonna have to go re-listen to the Dadawah album again before I deplete any more of my nominations

Unrest - Hydro
Bardo Pond - Inside
The Nightblooms - Shatterhand

ok, here's my 20 - stuff that probably nobody else will rep for and some of the prog epics that haven't made it yet. can't believe i'm the first person to nominate something by prince, though! seriously!

Janko Nilovic - Underground Session
Sweet Trip - International
Dadawah - Seventy-Two Nations
Novi Singers - Bacharach Medley
Tim Buckley - Gypsy Woman

John the Postman - Louie Louie
Paga Group - Une Parcelle d'Urantia
White Noise - The Visitation
Viet Cong - Death
Stackridge - Slark

Charles Mingus - Cumbia and Jazz Fusion
Max Tundra - Until We Die
Prince - Crystal Ball
Segun Okeji - Afro Super Feelings in Disco
Secret Chiefs 3 - Perichoresis

Schicke Fuhrs Frohling - Pictures
Katie Gately - Pivot
Larry Young - Khalid of Space Part Two
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - L'evoluzione
The Horrific Child - Frayeur

Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Seasons: One Mind Winter/Summer/Ninth Ghost

Shit and Shine - Toilet Door Tits
Alessandro Bosetti - African Feedback

20/20

things i didn't get to nominate cuz i was profligate early on:

Hawkwind - Brainstorm
Hawkwind - You Shouldn't Do That
Fucked Up - Year of the Pig
anything by Eyvind Kang

;_;

Fucked Up - Year of The Pig
Hawkwind - Brainstorm
Hawkwind - You Shouldn't Do That

7/20

lol tanks!

Tanks are no laughing matter.

Boz Scaggs - Loan Me A Dime
John Coltrane - Lush Life
Red House Painters - Silly Love Songs

QUESTIONS
1) Do live versions count as separate noms if they are formally released and also notably different from the original?

2) If something is technically a medley but contained/released within one track, is that acceptable?

1. Yes, commercially available live versions are OK.
2. No medleys, sorry.

Would Godspeed You Black Emperor's Slow Riot for New Zerø Kanada EP count as one long epic or would the two tracks be counted separately?

Two. Anyway, "Moya" is much better than "BBF2".

only "Halleluwah" & maaaaybe "Yoo Doo Right" should get any votes imo (xpost)

This is correct.

btw we're gonna need a long break between the list of nominees & the close of voting so we can all listen to as many unfamiliar songs as possible

Yep

We're approaching 700 nominations! Good job all, especially those of you who have put up ones that I had on my short (heh) list, now I can concentrate on obscure Bardo Pond releases.

lol, going through itunes, seemed like half the tracks > 10 min were by circle, bardo pond & eternal tapestry. everyday epics.

The Fiery Furnaces - Quay Cur
Wilco - Spiders (Kidsmoke)
Fennesz - Happy Audio
Darkside - Golden Arrow

11/20

archive - again

(4/20)

YLT's Blue Line Swinger is not a 10 mins track.

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird (live version from One More From The Road, 1976)
(20/20)

Devin Townsend - Bastard
The Isley Brothers - It’s Too Late
Starlito & Don Trip - Out Takes
Jay Electronica - Act 1: Eternal Sunshine (the pledge)
Red House Painters - Drop
Zapp - Dance Floor
Ice Cube - Bop Gun (One Nation)
The Temptations - Papa Was a Rollin’ Stone
Lou Reed - Like A Possum
Motorpsycho - Little Lucid Moments
Janes Addiction - Three Days
Black Sabbath - Warning
James Blackshaw - Shroud
Isaac Hayes - I Stand Accused
Spiritualized - Cop Shoot Cop

(15/20)

Propaganda - (The Echo Of) Frozen Faces
Brightblack Morning Light - Star Blanket River Child
Paqua - Late Train
Zazu -Captain Starlight (Englische Original-Aufnahme)
The Sequence - Funk You Up
Jon Lord - Bouree
Underworld -Mmm Skyscraper I Love You
Underworld - Banstyle/Sappy's Curry

16/20

thx for the temps & zapp, spottie

Serena-Maneesh - Your Blood in Mine
Suicide - Frankie Teardrop
Trees - Sally Free and Easy

10/20

King Crimson - Larks Tongues in Aspic, Part One
King Crimson - Fracture

Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band - Why Not
The Cure - Carnage Visors
Mercury Rev - Very Sleepy Rivers
Oneida - Changes in the City
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Dream
Eddie Palmieri - Un Día Bonito
Violeta Parra - El Gavilán, Gavilán
The Orb - Montagne D'Or (Der gute Berg)
Cerrone - Cerrone's Paradise
Odetta - Mr. Tambourine Man

10/20

only "Halleluwah" & maaaaybe "Yoo Doo Right" should get any votes imo (xpost)
maybe?

Wolves in the Throne Room - Behold the Vastness and Sorrow
Wolves in the Throne Room - I Will Lay My Bones Among the Rocks & Roots

12/20

Eyvind Kang - Invisus Natalis (this is, like 9.41 but it's an epic and amazing - can we have it?)
Katie Gately - Pipes

Arcturus - For To End Yet Again

3/10

^^ jeez i haven't listened to Arcturus in a while. is that from Masquerade Infernale?

Vangelis - Heaven And Hell Part 1

I thought about nominating Part 1 or Part 2 of this, but IMO it's pretty obviously a medley or, more accurately, a "symphony": a progression of distinct shorter compositions that segue from one to another. Wikipedia says that some of the older pressings even give individual titles to the different movements:

Part One:

"Bacchanale" – 4:40
"Symphony to the Powers B" (Movements 1 and 2) – 8:18
"Movement 3" (from "Symphony to the Powers B") – 4:03
"So Long Ago, So Clear" – 5:00

Part Two:

"Intestinal Bat" – 3:18
"Needles and Bones" – 3:22
"12 O'Clock" (in two parts) – 8:48
"Aries" – 2:05
"A Way" – 3:45

That said, AFAIK it was always meant to be released as two long tracks, with "So Long Ago, So Clear" in between them. "So Long Ago, So Clear" was released as a separate single, but none of the other parts were (though an excerpt of Part 1 was the b-side of "So Long Ago"). Years later, "Movement 3" was released on its own as a single, but that was because it had become popular as the theme tune to Carl Sagan's Cosmos. So I'm not sure whether the "no medleys" should apply to Heaven and Hell or not.

xp sham mirrors. haven't heard it in years but it was always a favourite by them. don't like masquerade - the singing is awful. i caught them live only about a year ago and they were a lot of fun and strangely hilarious for a BM band.

Electric Wizard fans, what, IYO is the best track off of Dopethrone for this poll?

Charles Mingus - The Black Saint & the Sinner Lady*
*not sure whether this ought to be split up into the different 'Modes' or tracks or considered one piece but the whole 4th track which has 3 'Modes', D through F, is 18.39 and should be counted.

weather report - boogie woogie waltz
weather report - nubian sundance
alan silva - luna surface
jim o'rourke - long nights
rafael toral - wave field
rafael toral - cyclorama lift 3
rafael toral - harmonic series 2
cecil taylor - "streams and chorus of seed" (dark to themselves)
hieroglyphic being - spheres of madness
laddio bolocko - y toros
10/20

jon hassell - charm (over burundi cloud)
11/20

oren ambarchi - remedios the beautiful
12/20

Mastodon - The Czar
Opeth - The Drapery Falls
Fuck Buttons - Stalker
Agalloch - Our Fortress is Burning

dog latin: agreed that the singing on Masquerade is terrible! explains why it never quite clicked with me. the debut (Aspera Hiems Symfonia?), while flamboyant & inscrutable in its own right, was much more to my liking. i remember Sham Mirrors being a lot more focused & thoughtfully structured; i really will have to dig it out & give it a listen!

Dubtribe sound system - do it now (extended version)
Moloko - forever more (fkek vocal mix)

2/20

nice work Chap nomming Drapery!

Burial - Rough Sleeper
Haxan Cloak - The Drop
Omar-S - Here's Your Trance, Now Dance
Kanye West - Last Call
Bass Clef - A Rail Is A Road and A Road Is A River
Levon Vincent - Launch Ramp To The Sky
Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
Leyland Kirby - My Dream Contained A Star

9/20 (incl burial - ashtray wasp which i nominated earlier and didn't number, soz)

Isaac Hayes - Walk On By
Cinematic Orchestra ft Roots Manuva - All Things To All Men

(5/20)

John Coltrane - Ascension
5/20

charlie h - yes i love aspera. one of the first extreme metal albums i got into. sham mirrors is actually really great. i love every track pretty much.

aw shoot - "ultimate warlord" 11 seconds too short !

henry threadgill - try some ammonia
13/20

paperclip people - throw

3/20

Temptations and Dubtribe Sound System were already nominated (by me).

Dubtribe sound system - do it now already nommed. The one time I don't ctrl-f cos I'm on my phone. So I'm on 2/20 - moloko and paperclip people.

Xp ha

Might have missed it, but couldn't see any Basic Channel things.

Cyrus - Enforcement
Theo Parrish - Footwork
Fennesz - Liminality
Colin Stetson - To See More Light
Autechre - bladelores
[5/20]

The good news is that's hopefully 2 votes at least on the board for Do It Now.

new Arcturus album out this year apparently. sure doesn't feel like 10 years since the last one!

fairly sure we've got at least a couple of noms for Walk on By by now

Ah yes sorry, did command f but forgot to display all messages.

Harold Budd - Bismillahi 'Rrahmani 'Rrahim
Damon Edge - Coming at La Mer to a World Left Behind
Kazue Sawai - A Song to Fallen Blossoms
Don Caballero - The Peter Criss Jazz
Steve Reid - Kai

15/20

only "Halleluwah" & maaaaybe "Yoo Doo Right" should get any votes imo (xpost)
This is correct.

― Godsleee You Black Emperor (Leee), Monday, March 2, 2015 4:33 AM (7 hours ago)

But... 'Mother Sky'!

Rose Royce / Norman Whitfield - Sunrise
Propaganda - Echo Of Frozen Faces
Phuture - Acid Trax
Ron Trent - Altered States
Innerzone Orchestra - Bug In The Bass Bin (Original version)
Keiichi Suzuki - Satellite Serenade (Trans Asian Express mix)
The Orb - Plateau
Choice - Acid Eiffel
Gentle People - Journey (Aphex Twin Care mix)
Goldie - Sea Of Tears
Isolee - Beau Mot Plage
The Juan Maclean - Tonight
Underworld & Dame Evelyn Glennie - And I Will Kiss
Stara Rzeka - Stara Rzeka

14/20

I'm pretty sure "Beau mot plage" lasts less than 10 minutes, unless you're talking about the "Freeform Reform" remix? (The one with all the live percussion.)

I checked it, the original "Beu mot plage" is only 6.5 minutes.

moebius & beerbohm- doppelschnitt
14/20

Ween - Woman and Man
Autechre - Surripere
Godspeed You Black Emperor - Mladic

3/20

only "Halleluwah" & maaaaybe "Yoo Doo Right" should get any votes imo (xpost)
This is correct.

― Godsleee You Black Emperor (Leee), Monday, March 2, 2015 4:33 AM (7 hours ago)

But... 'Mother Sky'!

― emil.y, Monday, 2 March 2015 12:19 (1 hour ago) Permalink

Yeah but only like 2 min too long! The other ~12 min are essential!

(good call on Hampton Grease Band upthread)

Goldie - Mother
15/20

The Undisputed Truth - Ball of Confusion (That's What the World is Today)
16/20

I wonder what's the longest tune in the poll so far? Vladislav Delay's "Anima" is 61 minutes, but surely there's something else that's even longer? Has anyone ever released a double or triple CD with just one composition? I know there are some super-long tracks released as files/USB sticks, like that 30 hour Terre Thamelitz tune from a couple of years ago.

Goldie - Mother
15/20

Surely you're jesting?

I think if Vangelis - Heaven And Hell gets counted as a medley then that puts loads of symphonic tracks into question. It doesn't sound like a medley to me.
The end part of Yes - Gates Of Delirium being released as a single but it's definitely not a medley.
I didn't vote Devil Doll - Dies Irae because it was pointlessly split into different tracks and this happens for a lot of symphonic epics. And like your example, it changes on different releases.

I plead to anyone making a big long piece, don't split it up into multiple tracks!

I've used up all my votes but I completely forgot Renaissance!

Fripp & Eno - An Index of Metals

6/20

Miles Davis - "Right Off"
John Coltrane - "Chasin' the Trane"
Bill Dixon - "Vade Mecum"

(18/20)

I've used up all my votes but I completely forgot Renaissance!

wait a sec, I got one more, so I'm going to nominate Renaissance - Scheherazade (really hard to spell both those words right!)

they probably got 4 worthy of inclusion here but that's the longest one so

Renaissance - Trip To The Fair

1/20

2. No classical. Jazz, techno, ambient, noodly beardo jams all ok.

why no classical? doesn't have to be symphonies.

Eonta is a jam, useless poll.

and to cover frogbs' other 'right album, wrong track'

Deluge Grander - Inaugural Bash

2/20

more to come later...

really imago? wouldn't have thought this was your thing but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks for voting Renaissance.

Hasn't the "no ambient" rule been broken a million times here?

plz reread for punctuation

Just re-reading this and:

Does the 'no classical' rule rule out Robert Ashley and Alvin Lucier? Where does classical end?

Personally I'd say that "classical" is a piece of music with a score that could, theoretically, be played on "standard" instrumentation. So Arvo Part = classical, Alvin Lucier's I Am Sitting In A Room doesn't.
In C, I'm not sure about.

― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omfg!

I wonder what's the longest tune in the poll so far?

ahem, la monte young's the well-tuned piano but it may just be too "classical".

I'd have said "I found a star on the ground" Flaming Lips, but hey.

Tuomas I believe Robert Rich's "Perpetual" is the longest single composition with a 'regular' commercial release, it's 8 hours on a Blu-Ray disc.

and since that garcia i squeezed in is actually a three track segue, you can replace with:

roy montgomery - fantasia on a theme by sandy bull

Tuomas I believe Robert Rich's "Perpetual" is the longest single composition with a 'regular' commercial release, it's 8 hours on a Blu-Ray disc.

― Siegbran, Monday, 2 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes but is it a tune you can whistle to as you clock in to work? That should be ok.

And has it been nominated?

Cecil Taylor European Orchestra - "Weight - Breath - Sounding Trees"

This is 63:48. And you can whistle to it.

nah says the word "orchestra", sounds like "classical" to me lets ban.

otoh the way Cecil plays on that piano its like 88 tuned drums which can get kinda funky --> jammin'

He walks a fine line.

Temptations and Dubtribe Sound System were already nominated (by me).

― mike t-diva, Monday, March 2, 2015 4:51 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whoops. I swear I searched the thread oh well.

Just re-reading this and:

Does the 'no classical' rule rule out Robert Ashley and Alvin Lucier? Where does classical end?
Personally I'd say that "classical" is a piece of music with a score that could, theoretically, be played on "standard" instrumentation. So Arvo Part = classical, Alvin Lucier's I Am Sitting In A Room doesn't.
In C, I'm not sure about.

― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omfg!

Ha well just trying to define "classical" if it's not allowed. Dunno why the distinction, maybe you're right, but would you really call a symphony (for example) an "epic"? Epic was a term that started getting used for (mainly) rock songs that aspired to a classical form in some way, so applying it backwards seems, er, revisionist? Not explaining this very well, sorry

William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I
Girl Talk - Night Ripper*
Vatican Shadow - Al Qaeda (Branch Davidian)
Fela Kuti - Confusion
Insanlar - Kime Ne
I.K. Dairo & his Blue Spots - Bi mo ba r'ajo, Lawrence ido...
Fela Kuti - Shuffering and Shmiling
Aaron Novik - Secrets of Formation (Bulgar)
Dan Kaufman - Conversation in the Mountains
Fela Kuti - Zombie
Danny Ben-Israel - The Hippies of Today are the Assholes of Tomorrow
Orchestra Super Rail Band International - Wale Numa Lombaliya
Tony Allen, Africa 70 - No Accommodation for Lagos
Witch Mountain - Aurelia
Sathima Bea Benjamin - Africa
T.P. Orchestre Poly-Rythmo de Cotonou - Min We Tun So
Franco and His All-Powerful O.K. Jazz - Tres Impoli
Electric Masada - Kedem*
Jamie Saft - Kielce
Sleep - Holy Mountain

* (not sure if this counts)

Ha well just trying to define "classical" if it's not allowed. Dunno why the distinction, maybe you're right, but would you really call a symphony (for example) an "epic"? Epic was a term that started getting used for (mainly) rock songs that aspired to a classical form in some way, so applying it backwards seems, er, revisionist? Not explaining this very well, sorry

― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, 2 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should be the one apologizing, didn't mean to jump on you. I was reading through after I read the first post outlining the rules then came across your post trying to flesh it out and if it is the case then idk why exclude acoustic instruments (?) Its true Leee hasn't quite clarified.

I was thinking the exclusion would be due to the very long length of a lot of symphonies. They must be jams, i.e. ~ 20 mins or so. Long but not too long.

Then again if its epic why are we allowing ambient jams?

Just scratching my head at a lot of this.

so has the full Fela Kuti discography been nomm'd yet?

John Zorn - Spillane
King Crimson - Fracture
The Necks - Mosquito
Gavin Bryars - Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet

4/20

Xp not even close

That was of course a complete mis-read. Yes the Lucier isn't an epic in the rock-like sense as the thing decays. The Riley is more like it, but its all just way too subjective to apply to.

Mostly jumping at the exlclusion of things that sound classical even though classical can sound very ambient or be noodly, or some jazz things (like Cecil taylor) can sound more classical at times. xps

There really ought to be a 10min+ version of Dream Baby Dream. Just sayin'

kraftwerk - ananas symphonie
15/20

Gastr Del Sol - "The Wrong Soundings"
Polvo - "When Will You Die For The Last Time In My Dreams"

Would Liars' "This Dust Makes That Mud" count? My understanding is that the CD version of the song just features an extended reiteration of the locked groove ending from the LP. If it counts, I nominate it.

Ufomammut - Eve
...should count right? It's track on the disc as parts I-V, and you can split out bits, but it's intended as a whole.

Electric Wizard fans, what, IYO is the best track off of Dopethrone for this poll?

― Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Monday, March 2, 2015 2:49 AM (5 hours ago)

i have concerns about e-wiz vote splitting, as the brilliant "return trip" (come my fanatics) and "weird tales" (dopethrone) have already been nominated. i didn't want to muddy the waters by adding any more myself. that said and while "dopethrone" itself is another great track as yet un-nominated, i wouldn't be at all unhappy to see the title cut from the supercoven EP show up here. just saying...

Mercury Rev - Meth of a Rockette's Kick

(13/20)

Ha well just trying to define "classical" if it's not allowed. Dunno why the distinction, maybe you're right, but would you really call a symphony (for example) an "epic"? Epic was a term that started getting used for (mainly) rock songs that aspired to a classical form in some way, so applying it backwards seems, er, revisionist? Not explaining this very well, sorry

― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, March 2, 2015 8:05 AM (1 hour ago)

Bernard Snowy had a good post upthread about this:

It's funny to see Steve Reich mentioned since he seems (along with some of the other big-name minimalists, & distinct from John Cage) to have reacted in a unique way to the advent of the "recorded music era", which is of course the inescapable horizon of this thread premise -- in other words, his work looks incomplete when viewed from here.

― can't remember the last time we all got to hang out with (bernard snowy), Sunday, March 1, 2015 10:50 AM (Yesterday)

Question of why to allow ambient recordings when classical compositions are barred can be answered in the same manner: simply because they are recordings. I'm not sure why we would want to specifically exclude ambient music, anyway, when so many rock bands (Circle, Bardo Pond, Eternal Tapestry, etc.) seem to produce side-long "epics" as their primary mode.

aw shoot - "ultimate warlord" 11 seconds too short !

― massaman gai, Monday, March 2, 2015 3:19 AM (6 hours ago)

lol yeah, i came to the same crestfallen realization yesterday

so has the full Fela Kuti discography been nomm'd yet?

― Steph def def (Spottie), Monday, March 2, 2015 8:23 AM (1 hour ago)

no, but 14 freaking fela tracks have. pretty much doomed to death by vote-splitting. wish folks would realize that when an artist doesn't have a small handful of tracks that everyone knows, overnominating does way more harm than good.

As mentioned above 'Beau Mot Plage' DNQ so please replace with

Tangerine Dream - Fauni Gena

14/20

a bunch of fela kuti placed on kerr's 70s poll which presumably had more nominations in total than this poll will have?

kraftwerk - ananas symphonie
15/20

― massaman gai, Monday, March 2, 2015 11:45 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3 <3 <3

Flower Travellin' Band - Satori, Part 4
Popul Vuh - Hosianna Mantra
Jessika Kenney & Eyvind Kang - Kidung
Catherine Christer Hennix - The Electric Harpischord
Ensemble Pearl - Sexy Angle
Terry Riley - Poppy Nogood and The Phantom Band

I had a feeling somebody would have already voted Fela's Shakara which is an alltime.

will listen to anything xelab nominates

very kind of you to say so, thanks.

classical ban makes no sense, and it seems unlikely it would have much of an impact on the overall results anyway. put in a post-1900 qualifier if you prefer, it's a lot less ambiguous and doesn't involve trying to discern whether a piece is primarily a performance or similar nonsense

Girl Talk - Night Ripper*
Electric Masada - Kedem*
Sleep - Holy Mountain

* (not sure if this counts)

Electric Masada -- looks ok, it's in.
Sleep and Girl Talk, nope.

classical ban makes no sense, and it seems unlikely it would have much of an impact on the overall results anyway. put in a post-1900 qualifier if you prefer, it's a lot less ambiguous and doesn't involve trying to discern whether a piece is primarily a performance or similar nonsense

What do others think? I'm an uncultured heathen who made an early arbitrary decision.

if u do allow classical i think nominations should be for a particular performance/recording of a piece and not just the composition itself

I just wanted to vote for bolero

Hosianna Mantra already nominated!

oops I did control-f, must have spelt it wrong.

There are a few banned selections I would have voted for and am scratching my head when I see Miles, Herbie, Dolphy, Arvo, Coltrane and others nommed up the thread.

Carla Bley - 3/4
Charlie Haden - El Quinto Regimiento / Los Cuatro Generales / Viva la Quince Brigada
Miles Davis - Concierto de Aranjuez (Adagio)
The Necks - Hanging Gardens
Eberhard Weber - T on a White Horse

(5/20)

The composition itself will suffice.

Its more the principle, don't expect anyone to vote for any classical jamz.

xp you misspelled popol
i searched for vuh just in case someone else spelled it wrong
it barely counts (10:09) and is not the best PV epic imo but i nominated a bunch
i guess i should care about vote splitting but i don't

The Necks - Piano Bass Drums
The Necks - Fatal
The Necks - Drive By

(8/20) (hossianah mantra vote rescinded)

two v cultured people have voted for Harold Budd - Bismillahi 'Rrahman 'Rrahim

xp
Yeah some of the shorter tracks on Hossianah are actually more lovely.

I think the exclusion of classical makes sense, because classical compositions more often than not last over 10 minutes. So what's an epic length for most genres of Western music is business as usual for classical. So we would need to give some other definition of "epic" for classical music, and then we'd have to come up with subjective definitions for other genres too, and there'd be no end to that.

I agree with Tuomas. For me, the spirit of thread = things that could and probably should have been expressed in <10 mins lasting rather longer due to hubris, overambition, "don't stop me now just when I'm in the groove, man", or whatever - but somehow getting away with it.

Oh and Reich, Glass, Riley etc should all be excluded (not sure I even buy the argument for "Come Out" upthread).

Mogwai - My Father My King

'Europe Endless' by Kraftwerk is about 20 seconds too short :(

Guru Guru - Oxymoron
Ariel Kalma - Reternelle

10/20

Supertramp - Fool's Overture
Super Furry Animals - Blerwytirhwng?

(5/20)

not sure I even buy the argument for "Come Out" upthread

Where is the line, though? Arguably, "Come Out" has more in common with some of the electronic ambient music on this thread than it does with Beethoven. It is not a notated piece for acoustic instruments; nor is it in any common practice WAM form. (I have very little investment in this but I'm curious about the definitions and criteria here.)

The Cure - Carnage Visors
The Cure - Watching Me Fall
Lard - Time To Melt
Jaydee - Plastic Dreams
Orbital - Out There Somewhere, pts 1 & 2 (NOTE: each part is longer than 10 minutes)
Rush - 2112

DJP, "2112" and "Out There Somewhere" have both been nominated already.

Can we exclude techno and jazz too as they are often over 10 mins. Thanks.

I nominated based solely on what was in my iTunes library and what I had some affection for, but I do sort of want to vote for artists that don't typically turn out 10-minute-plus tracks.

Can we exclude techno and jazz too as they are often over 10 mins. Thanks.

No, because I like techno, and I don't have mod powers to edit my top post.

DJP, "2112" and "Out There Somewhere" have both been nominated already.

stupid "show all posts" not sticking sometimes

oops I did control-f, must have spelt it wrong.

There are a few banned selections I would have voted for and am scratching my head when I see Miles, Herbie, Dolphy, Arvo, Coltrane and others nommed up the thread.

― xelab, Monday, March 2, 2015 11:55 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe you read it wrong like I did in thinking that #2 in the OP had a comma after classical and not a period? I kept seeing Jazz get nommed and had to reread that a few times til i saw the period.

Oh yeah you are right, lol thanks I am such a thick bastard!

I don't think most of my nominations and favourites in the thread could have been achieved under 10mins. Many of them make proper use of 20mins as well.

Generally I don't get the feeling prog epics are padded out, they are often the best things these bands have done. Exceptions would be ELP's "Karn Evil 9" and all four tracks on Yes' Topographic Oceans; those have stunning moments but not nearly enough to fill the time.

I love Yes' "Awaken" but think the "Awaken gentle mass touch" build-up section is too long.

I like Acid Mothers Temple but they're the only band that I think regularly makes tracks too long.

Feature films and stories in nearly any form tend to be too long most of the time. I don't get that feeling with music nearly as often.

Oh go on then..

"Death Disco" PIL, the version that's on the John Lydon "Best of British pound notes" DVD as a hidden mp3

Not even joking!

does "classical" cover choral music?

Yes.

in that case:

Diamanda Galas - The Litanies of Satan

Prince - Come

40 Watt Sun - Restless
40 Watt Sun - Open My Eyes
Autechre - Drane
Fireside - Elite
The God Machine - Seven
Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Static
Guns N' Roses - Coma
Led Zeppelin - Carouselambra
Mogwai - Christmas Steps
Sonic Youth - Karen Revisited
SubRosa - The Usher
SubRosa - Ghosts of a Dead Empire
SubRosa - Fat of the Ram
Swans - Helpless Child
Swans - The Sound
Thurston Moore - Elegy for All the Dead Rock Stars
Tool - Reflection
Tony Conrad & Faust - From the Side of Man and Womankind
Yob - Marrow

19/20

Robotman - Do Da Doo (Plastikman's Acid House Remix)
Vapourspace - Gravitational Arch Of 10

18/20

i too thought that period was a comma... there's just too much 10+ minute electronic music for the epic distinction to be meaningful, imo

Charles Mingus - Hobo Ho
Herbie Hancock - Ostinato (Suite For Angela)
12/20

Allman Brothers-Mountain Jam ("Eat a Peach" version)

ricardo villalobos - 808 bassqueen
vladislav delay - huone
tangerine dream - force majeure
benjamin diamond - inner cycle (part 1 & 2)
the orb - blue room
the bucketheads - the bomb!
quadrant - infinition

20/20

Nothin But Time-Cat Power
5/20

sorry missed groovypanda nominating Propaganda's '(Echo Of) Frozen Faces' before me so have

Gary Byrd & The GB Experience - The Crown (10:43)

+

Primal Scream - Come Together (10:21)
The Jams - It's Grim Up North (Part 1) (10:09)
Global Communication - The Way (11:47)
Model 500 - I Wanna Be There (18:42)
Black Leotard Front - Casual Friday (15:07)
Cortney Tidwell - Don't Let Stars Keep Us Tangled Up (Ewan Pearson Objects In Space Vocal mix) (11:54)

20/20

The Doors - The End
DJ Shadow - What Does Your Soul Look Like pt. 2
Explosions in the Sky - It's Natural to Be Afraid
Fennesz - Black Sea
The Field - Yesterday and Today
Giorgio Moroder - Evolution
Global Communication - 14:31
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Rockets Fall On Rocket Falls
LCD Soundsystem - Yeah (Pretentious Version)
Manual - Summer of Freedom
Petar Dundov - Sailing Off the Grid
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
The Residents - Six Things to a Cycle
Ride - Grasshopper
Roy Harper - Me and My Woman
Sereena Maneesh - Your Blood In Mine
Sigur Ros - Vi›rar vel til loftárása
Squarepusher - Tundra 4
Tool - Pushit
Zombi - Night Rhythms

Should be 20/20 (with some hard cuts) unless someone posted one of the above while I was typing this.

Also if I can pimp some of the more obscuro tracks, check out the Sereena Maneesh, Manual and Roy Harper songs. But all of the ones I have here are truly epic and great tracks and not just 10+ minute songs. Even the ambient dubby techno of Petar Dundov

octobeard:
Doors, Global Com, Sereena Maneesh already nominated.

14.31 and Plastic Dreams both nommed twice I think.

Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - track 5

3/20

Thee Maddkatt Courtship - By Dawn's Early Light
Omar S - Surpass

14/20

The Dead C - Driver U.F.O.

Miles Davis - Mademoiselle Mabry (Miss Mabry)

7/20

Chris Forsyth - Solar Motel I
Hatchback - Sunrise Prototypes

16/20

Felt - Sending Lady Load

Thelonious Monk - Straight, No Chaser
Carl Craig & Moritz von Oswald - Movement 6

18/20

which version of "straight no chaser" is that? i have the blue note 78 version and it's three minutes...

The version I have is 11.28 secs and is off this album.
http://d3c8kntzevhldx.cloudfront.net/packshots/wmus000024328_l.jpg

11min 28secs

Tbh I feel like a fake here because there are loads of Monk tracks I prefer to this and a lot of them are only just shorter than 10 mins.

Ute Lemper - Scope J
Laddio Bolocko - Nurser
Ricardo Villalobos - Fizheuer Zieheuer

(8/20)

UB40 "Madam Medusa"

Brian Eno & Robert Fripp, "Heavenly Music Corporation"
Sheila E. "A Love Bizarre"

Genesis, "Supper's Ready"

Van Morrison - Cyprus Avenue (from It's Too Late To Stop Now)

the fall - and this day

16/20

Octobeard, 'Pushit' is 9:56

xposts: heavenly music corporation previously nominated, sorry.

"and this day" already nommed by the likes of me!

dang! how'd i not ctrl-f that?

i think the list is getting pretty unwieldy at this point :)

fine choice in any case!

this list hasn't gotten started yet

the repeat noms at this point are clear indicators of potential high rollout placers maybe

that said, 29 facepalms: both bryars' "jesus blood" and crimso's "fracture" have been nommed already

Mr Bungle - The Bends

ok - so:
Pauline Oliveros - the wanderer
16/20

les rallizes denudes' night of the assassin(s) has shown up a couple of times too (props to those posters)

The Last One is their epic - I see Brad has carried out God's work on that one.

narrowing this down to 18 more is hurting me. let's post a few dead certs now

Spratleys Japs - Cabinet (Tim Smith's only 10-minute excursion, the silly goose!)
Richard Dawson - Nothing Important
Connan Mockasin - Forever Dolphin Love
Peter Hammill - A Louse Is Not A Home
Koenjihyakkei - Grembo Zavia
KTL - Theme
Murcof - Oort
Coil - Red Queen

10/20

On Ayhun - OUR 00P

4/20

Steffen Basho-Junghans - Inside
Hamza El Din - The Water Wheel
Roland P Young - Crystal Motions
Black Dice - Endless Happiness
Glenn Jones - The Teething Necklace
Harold Budd - Madrigals of the Rose Angel
Edan - Echo Party
The Necks - Aether
John Fahey - The Great San Bernardino Birthday Party
Blue Gene Tyranny - Out Of The Blue / A Letter From Home About Sound And Consciousness
Hans Reichel - The Death of the Rare Bird Ymir
Kevin Drumm - The Inferno
Robbie Basho - Blue Corn Serenade
Gilberto Gil & Jorge Ben Jor - Nega
Harry Partch - U.S. Highball
Jackie O Motherfucker - Everyday
William Onyeabor - When The Going Is Smooth And Good
Jack Rose - Red Horse
Maurice Ravel - Bolero

and given the mantastic nature of my list -

Macho - I'm A Man

20/20

*Oni Ayhun xp

Oni Ayhun - OAR003B

3/20

FFS

4/20

Reasons not to post at work while you're being talked at

Yoko Ono - "Mindtrain"

have we reached a verdict on classical yet? i'd suggest that there is a place for it in this poll if we exercise a bit of intuitive judgment. i'm sure we can work out a functional-enough precedent whereby the Ravel piece listed above and other standalone works along the lines of, say, Ligeti's Lontano are fair game, while symphonies, operas, concertos etc. cancel themselves out.

was just thinking volumina!

original organ combusting version , preferably.

yeah, i guess that's another issue with classical in relation to this poll: some people are going to vote on the composition itself & others are going to fixate on a particular performance that is close to their heart. guess that can be reconciled easily enough. but yeah, Volumina would take this to another level.

I was certainly thinking of nominating one Ligeti piece.

I might just come up with a list and let people block.

My iTunes reports 3500 tracks over 10 minutes, and that's already excluding classical, medleys/dj mixes etc. It's taking a long time to sift through them.

Dead certs though:

Helloween - Halloween
the ultimate heavy metal epic, together with the already nominated Rime Of The Ancient Mariner

Current 93 - I Have A Special Plan For This World
fuck everyone knows these 22 minutes of horror, surprised it wasn't nominated already

Solar Quest - Acid Air Raid (George's Allnighter)
all bow to the mighty TB-303

Summoning - Land Of The Dead
there is nothing more epic than a 13 minute symphonic, faux-medieval stately hymn about Lord Of The Rings with a male choir, french horns and huge fucking kettledrums.

Hoedh - Heilige (Sophisme Sonores)
from Hymnus, the best ambient record ever made - dark, intense and sad, almost religious.

5/20

Shame this has to be 10+ minutes in reality. I mean, something like 'In a City Lining' by the Cardiacs, I would count as 'epic' for post-punk but it's only 7 mins long.

Maurice Ravel - Bolero

but this doesn't even have a fixed length! how can compositions be considered fair game in a poll whose sole criteria is length of recording, where a track would be excluded for falling even a single second short? i object.

you could submit King Crimson's Bolero?

which i already did as part of 'Lizard'

Oh wait...

King Crimson - Lizard
Uriah Heep - The Magician's Birthday

7/10

Stooges - We Will Fall

Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
Yes - Heart of the Sunrise (how has this not been nominated?!)

Sloan - Forty-Eight Portraits
(14/20)

Is anyone gonna nominate Miles' "In a Silent Way/It's About That Time" or his On the Corner tracks? I have two noms left and was going to use them on Miles, but I already nominated some Miles, and I'm worried about Miles vote-splitting.

Shhh Peaceful has been nommed. Always thought of the OTC tracks as being really short image-captures of moments in his band sessions, but not epic at all.

At least 2 songs I nom'd were nom'd a 2nd time... "Bop Gun" and "Mmm Skyscraper I Love You." If either redundancy were to be replaced with Shellac's "Didn't We Deserve a Look at You the Way You Really Are" that would be cool but if not ya know nbd.

Moondog - Cosmic Meditation
Robert Ashley - The Backyard
Stereolab - Soop Groove #1

10/20

Seefeel - Minky Starshine

I nominated "In a Silent Way/It's About That Time."

Oh, whoops, missed that.

Wayne Siegel - Domino Figures

11/20

The Necks - Drive By
The Necks - Open
The Necks - Fatal (from Chemist)
Can - Mother Sky
Swans - Bring the Sun / Toussaint L'Ouverture

Bob Dylan - Tempest
Buddy Guy - I Gotta Try You Girl
Outrageous Cherry - There's No Escape From The Infinite
Parliament - Sir Nose d'Voidoffunk
Bright Eyes - Let's Not Shit Ourselves (To Love and Be Loved)

17/20

The Who - Underature

18/20

Epic ctrl+fails itt

The Who - Underture

typo in the above one

18/20

The Necks - Drive By
The Necks - Open
The Necks - Fatal (from Chemist)
Can - Mother Sky
Swans - Bring the Sun / Toussaint L'Ouverture

All previously nominated, except "Open".

is ctrl-F not working properly ITT?

Todd Rundgren - A Treatise on Cosmic Fire
17/20

"Underture" is 9:55.

ctrl-f is working but people are not

"Underture" is 9:55.

It's listed as 10:04 on my iTunes

les rallizes denudes' night of the assassin(s) has shown up a couple of times too (props to those posters)― no lime tangier, Tuesday, March 3, 2015 4:35 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks and props to you too considering you are the one who nom'd what will likely be my #1.

De'Lacy - Hideaway (deep dish mix)
Those Guys - Tonite

6/20

New Order - Elegia

20/20

Bola - Whoblo

7/20

Hecker - Stocha Acid Look

1/1

Josh One - Contemplation (king britt funke mix)
Audion - Mouth to Mouth

9/20

Chris Forsyth - Paranoid Cat I-III
(10/20)

I wanted to vote for paranoid cat but got a bit too rigid with the 10 minute rule.

yeah but the track i have is 3 movements and they are all part of the same track
it's all one song imo -- one song that lasts ~20 min or so? i used it for my exercise warm up for over a year because the development of the track was perfect for that usage
never got sick of it either!

which reminds me

neil young and crazy horse - "danger bird" (live on year of the horse)

(11/20)

Odd Future - Oldie
(15/20)

It's listed as 10:04 on my iTunes

― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:07 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'll be danged! Indeed it is. Apologies for that. Now I feel like an idiot for trying to disqualify one of the only two Who epics that qualifies.

Ornette Coleman, "Ascension" (I or II)
Tangerine Dream, "Alpha Centauri
Aretha Franklin, "Amazing Grace"

Ornette Coleman, "Ascension" (I or II)

um...

lol

Comus - The Herald
Ichiko Aoba - 機械仕掛乃宇宙 [Clockwork Universe]
Pharoah Sanders - Upper Egypt & Lower Egypt
Windy & Carl - Whisper
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon (Part One)

(10/20)

Ha, my bad, drinking.

is the issue here that you actually meant the Coltrane track(s)? i just assumed you were nomming something by Ornette Coleman that i'd never heard (of).

Sly & The Family Stone - "Dance To The Medley"
Cibo Matto - "Theme"
Comets On Fire - "Blue Tomb"
Storm & Stress - "We Write Threnodies, We Write With Explosions"
Sugar Plant - "Behind The Ears"
Sugar Plant - "Meadow"
War - "The Seven Tin Soldiers"
The Orb - "O.O.B.E."
Autechre - "Second Peng"
Bardo Pond - "Isle"
Olivia Tremor Control - "Cycle 7"
Buffalo Daughter - "Cyclic"
DJ Spooky - "Byzar Prologue"
Faust - "Sechster Song"
Jim O'Rourke - "Bad Timing"
Melt-Banana - "Outro For Cell-Scape"

And that's the last of my 20. Shocked and scandalized to discover that both Faust's "Why Don't You Eat Carrots?" and the Move's "Feel Too Good" are just under 10:00. Two of my all-time favorite super-long songs.

Trapped in the Drive-Thru - Weird Al Yankovic
Can't believe someone mentioned Albuquerque but not that.

Tarfumes, is "Rael" the other one? I'd nom it, I have slots left.

I don't think "Rael" breaks the 10-minute mark, but I'm not positive. The other one I was thinking of is "My Generation" from Live at Leeds.

if you find yourself nominating live versions of shorter songs i'm probably afraid you shouldn't be voting here

Depends on how much shorter, also that with "Little Johnny Jewel" for example, there's a whole extra section to it that wasn't on the seven minute studio version.

Actually, the "other one" was more "A quick one while he's away" but that's more episodic/medley really, yeah?

user48736353001 (Aphex Twin) - 15 sekonda
AMM III - Radio Activity

19/20

smh at all the early Underworld tracks that are like 9mins 55seconds or thereabouts. Mr Emerson, were you not thinking ahead?

I guess they're pretty well represented itt already though.

Shpongle - Around The World In A Tea Daze
mushrooms are fun

Sasha - Xpander
of all the trance epics, this is probably the one to rule them all

Filteria - Operation Pulse
the aural equivalent of looking directly into the sun

Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring
their best single, coincidentally also over 10 minutes

Enslaved - Norvegr
stately instrumental ode to Norway

Darkthrone - Kathaarian Life Code
black fucking metal

Moonsorrow - Huuto
folk/black metal, everything these guys do is epic to the max but this especially piles on the awesomeness for a good 16 minutes

Lil' Louis - French Kiss
how was this not nominated?

13/20

Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring

^ assume this refers specifically to the 12" extended mix?

if you find yourself nominating live versions of shorter songs i'm probably afraid you shouldn't be voting here

― vacuum head tree disease (imago), Wednesday, March 4, 2015 7:19 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Leee pointed out upthread that long live versions of short studio songs are allowed.

Actually, the "other one" was more "A quick one while he's away" but that's more episodic/medley really, yeah?

― Mark G, Wednesday, March 4, 2015 7:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's definitely episodic, but so are "Supper's Ready," "Close to the Edge," and a bunch of Rush stuff.

(and the studio version is only 9:12 -- live versions are generally shorter)

Of course live longer versions are legit, because you have to nominate "Do You Feel Like We Do?" from "Frampton Comes Alive". and Gentle Giant's "Excerpts from Octopus"

Would also toss in "Moonchild" from King Crimson.

yeah, there are definitely cases where a live version is definitive

Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring

^ assume this refers specifically to the 12" extended mix?

yes obviously. Is that disallowed in this poll?

nope

...but since it's a different mix, probably helps to specify

Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Sleep
...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Tao Of The Dead pt. III [it's a standalone EP]
Boris - Angel
Krallice - IIIIIIIIIIII [track #6 on Years Past Matter]
Krallice - Telluric Rings
Kayo Dot - The Manifold Curiosity
Kayo Dot - The Antique
Maudlin Of The Well - Laboratories of the Invisible World (Rollerskating the Cosmic Palmistric Postborder)
Maudlin Of The Well - Birth Pains Of Astral Projection
A Forest Of Stars - God
A Forest Of Stars - Sorrow's Impetus
A Forest Of STars - Delay's Progression
Van Der Graaf Generator - Childlike Faith In Childhood's End
Van Der Graaf Generator - The Sleepwalkers
Weakling - No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die
James Blackshaw - Sunshrine
SunnO))) - Alice
Old Man Gloom - Christmas Eve Parts I, II and III (Alt. Version) [this is all one track]
Thinking Plague - Les Etudes d'organism
Pelican - Australasia

That's 20/20 there

SunnO))) - Alice
Is this a Sisters cover?

xpost Yeah, I meant the Coltrane. When I shifted my iTunes to length and started looking for long tracks, there were like five versions of Ornette's "Free Jazz" in a section (around 17 minutes or something?) and stuck in the middle of them was "Ascension," so my brain just kind of tangled them together.

Lots more Ash Ra Temple and Amon Duul and the like, but dunno what I would pick.

Neil Young's "Natural Beauty"

Nearly every classic techno A-side is 10-12 minutes. Can we exclude them?

Regardless, Sufjan’s Impossible Soul is fantastic.

had been waiting for both Alice & The Sleepwalkers to make an appearance. nicely played.

Nearly every classic techno A-side is 10-12 minutes. Can we exclude them?

I really don't think this is the case? I'd say the average length for techno and house tracks is something between 5 and 7 minutes. If you want talk about original Detroit techno, most A sides by Derrick May, Juan Atkins, and Kevin Saunderson are roughly that long, and so is "Energy Flash", "Papua New Guinea", "Voodoo Ray", etc. Only in some ambient and "home-listening" sugenres is 10+ minutes a norm, but for most dancefloor stuff it isn't.

Yeah I was surprised at how *few* techno songs actually fit the bill. I thought Knights Of The Jaguar would easily qualify but it's barely six and a half minutes.

Oh, nearly forgot;

Intruder featuring Jei ‎– Amame

I was sorely tempted to nominate some tracks from Saturnz Return but I figured they would probably get zero votes.

Pharaoh Sanders - Let Us Go Into the House of the Lord

12/20

I still have over 20 songs to fit into 10 nominations, this is torture

the only regret i have about my list is that most of it is stuff that people would have got round to nominating anyway

john utler - ocean
thee silver mt zion - what we loved was not enough

(6/20)

that should have been john butler

gonna set ILM the little challenge of trying to nominate what I'm wanting to nominate before I do. you can do it folks

OK..

"Stop Giving Me Verses" - The Hoosiers

In an attempt to break the world record for the longest song ever recorded, The Hoosiers have released a version of the song that is available on iTunes to download called, "Stop Giving Me Verses". The band began a competition prior to the song's recording asking fans to write verses and send them in, no matter how ridiculous. The song is over 40 minutes long, and is the single "Choices" with hand-picked winners' lyrics. It was the first time that drummer Alfonso and bassist Martin took lead vocals for certain verses, and featured cameo verses from Jeff Leach and Katy Brand.

Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Dark Collage Club Mix)
Âme - Balandine
Theo Parrish ft. Ideeyah & Duminie DePorres - Be In Yo Self
Alton Miller - Clouds Are Gone (Henrik Schwarz Remix)
Erykah Badu - I Want You
Hodgson - Babylon System
Dølle Jølle - Balearic Incarnation (Todd Terje's Extra Døll Mix)
Tori Amos - The Waitress (To Venus And Back Live Version)
Adultnapper - Low Point On High Ground (DJ Sprinkles Rock Bottom Mix)
Nina Kraviz - I'm Gonna Get You
Prurient - Through The Window
School Of Seven Bells - Sempiternal/Amaranth
Tori Amos - God (Carl Craig's Rainforest Resort Mix)
Sade - Give It Up (Kenny Larkin Remix)

13/20

or er 14/20

Michael Stearns - Morning
Steve Roach - Reflections in Suspension
James Ferraro - Live at Primavera Sound 2012

15/20

Lil' Louis - French Kiss
how was this not nominated?
13/20
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 13:05 (3 hours ago) Permalink

Considered this for a second but honestly didn't think it broke 10 mins. Will defo vote for it.

Not sure how you credit this one or if it even counts:

Noisey - The Rap Monument

Titus Andronicus - The Battle of Hampton Roads

Yes! As EPIC as any epic I've ever heard. Everyone PLEASE give this one a spin before casting your votes.

re: the enduring classical discussion, would a classical-only ("classical") side poll be an adequate patch that will satisfy no one?

Josh in Chicago, incidentally, "Ascension" has already been nominated, which I presume includes both parts. And is Neil Young's "Natural Beauty" an official nom?

Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Dark Collage Club Mix)

I've got this at 8:45?

There's an extended club mix that appears to be 11+.

Bardo Pond - Undone
Basic Channel - Octaedre
Boris - Just Abandoned Myself
Colleen - Everything Lay Still
Gas - Pop VII
Isis - Weight
Neurosis - Aeon
Oren Ambarchi - Triste Part 1
Oren Ambarchi - Triste Part 2
Plastikman - Rekall
A Silver Mt Zion - Ring Them Bells (Freedom Has Come And Gone)
William Rusere - Bukatiende
A Winged Victory for the Sullen - I

Does anyone remember (or is anyone able to check) if Mira Calix's Prickle (not counting the remix) is a continuous piece or a medley?

Aaaah you could have killed my Neurosis choice but you went for the wrong track off the album, aaaargh

Mono - The Kidnapper Bell

14/20

Aaaah you could have killed my Neurosis choice but you went for the wrong track off the album, aaaargh

I went with my heart.

Three more (since I had some dups on my original 20)

Global Communication - Epsilon Phase
Gescom - Keynell 4
William Onyeabar - Something You'll Never Forget

20/20

Gescom - Keynell 4

!! I never think of this as a long song, glad it qualifies though.

Really wish I'd nominated this one, if someone has a spare nom feel free

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Unwanted_Song

I swear I've been searching before throwing songs in the ring!

Spyder D "Big Apple Rappin'"

Komar and Melamid - The Most Unwanted Song

15/20

Really wish I'd nominated this one, if someone has a spare nom feel free

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Unwanted_Song

Komar and Melamid and Dave Soldier - The Most Unwanted Song
(17/20)

Yes to Komar and Melamid! I will vote for that.

Heh, ignore that then.

Oh, we loves that one round 'ere.

We have it on a cdr with the "Most wanted song", and bringing up the rear is the Hoosiers "Stop giving me verses" aka "The least wanted song", although that one doesn't get played, um, at all.

Will have to dig it out for the school run!

I think I have to disallow E2-E4 since it has different track names despite its continuous composition. :( Perhaps replace with one of the first two tracks as a stand-n for the whole thing?

How many votes will we get?

10+

Standard 20, or would ppl like more? 30?

More please, I'm not just voting for my nominations

John Zorn - Spillane

I bought this with paper-round money after watching a South Bank Show he shared with Sonic Youth. SY were annoying text book pseuds, talking much nauseating shite in the standard droning self absorbed arty NYC garbage manner, mainly about themselves and he was a musical dynamo, enthusing about cartoon music, japanese pop and a ridiculous amount of good stuff. At the time it changed my whole attitude towards music.

I think I have to disallow E2-E4 since it has different track names despite its continuous composition. :( Perhaps replace with one of the first two tracks as a stand-n for the whole thing?

― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:02 PM (27 minutes ago)

I nominated the longest E2-E4 track (opener "Ruhige Nervosität") waaaaay upthread

Sun City Girls - The Venerable Song (The Meaning of Which is No Longer Known)
Boredoms - Seadrum
Ween - Buenos Tardes Amigos
The Dead C - Driver UFO
Boris - Naki Kyoku

19/20

It is one long segue of short pieces, there is no separating them even if some cd's might.

John Zorn - Spillane

I bought this with paper-round money after watching a South Bank Show he shared with Sonic Youth. SY were annoying text book pseuds, talking much nauseating shite in the standard droning self absorbed arty NYC garbage manner, mainly about themselves and he was a musical dynamo, enthusing about cartoon music, japanese pop and a ridiculous amount of good stuff. At the time it changed my whole attitude towards music.

― xelab, Wednesday, March 4, 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Heard about that one before but now we have youtube, here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-2sb9DcgUI

The Albert Collins on the b-side is fucking brilliant as well.

if we're allowing live versions, somebody nominate Deep Purple - "Space Truckin'" from Made In Japan

damn, i would've (should've!), but too late...

NRBQ, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".

is that a live version of Buenas Tardes Amigo that you're talking about?

Didn't somebody say that they wanted to nominate USMILEAMBIENT once upon a time?

Leee, I would like to please amend my earlier nomination of Monster Magnet's "Tab" to clarify that I'm specifically nominating the fucked-up, 22-minute demo version from the Forget About Life, I'm High on Dope cassette -- and specifically NOT the overcluttered, 32-minute "official" version from the 25... Tab EP.

Suppose it ought to appear as Monster Magnet - Tab (demo). This one right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BAEf3ykdao

and thank you

contenderizer, noted!

Yeah it must be a live version of Amigo, forget about it

Chris Butler - The Devil Glitch

Edgar Froese - Epsilon in Malaysian Pale

nice

god, just had a moment of panic thinking no one had nominated "got to give it up"

5 more...

As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls - Pat Metheny
The Deep - Global Comminication
Southern Man (live version from 4-Way Street) - CSNY
Strobe - deadmau5
Darling Belle - Incredible String Band

I have three left (if I can find any more that haven't yet been nommed!)

I'm not sure I buy the idea of live versions unless there are no other versions.

Cabaret Voltaire - Get Out of My Face
Arti e Mestieri - Articolazioni
Etron Fou Leloublan - L'amulette et le Petit Rabbin
Orthrelm - OV

i can buy live versions if they're obviously definitive, e.g. 'do you feel like we do'. less so a csny version of 'southern man'

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - "O'Malley's Bar"
Either/Orchestra - "Born in a Suitcase" (the live version from Across the Omniverse)
Either/Orchestra - "The Hard Blues"
Fairport Convention - "Sloth"
Genesis - "The Battle of Epping Forest"
Genesis - "The Cinema Show"
Hampton Grease Band - "Halifax"
Jaco Pastorius - "Teen Town" (the live version from Live in New York City, Vol. 2)
Phish - "Reba" (Phish songs only count if the studio version exceeds ten minutes, which this does)
The President (the band fronted by Wayne Horvitz) - "A Bad Dream"
Rush - "The Camera Eye" - Rush
original cast recording of Sweeney Todd, by Stephen Sondheim - "Final Sequence"
original cast recording of Into the Woods, by Stephen Sondheim - "Prologue: Into the Woods"
Richard and Linda Thompson - "Calvary Cross" (live version)
Henry Threadgill - "Little Pocket Size Demons"

These may or may not be classical:
John Cage - "Third Construction" (the version by Third Coast Percussion clocks in at 10:20)
Gyorgy Ligeti - "Poeme Symphonique for 100 Metronomes"

And this one may not even be music, and may yet be classical, but still:
Anna Russell - "The Ring of the Nibelungs: An Analysis"

(18/20 if everything counts)

this would have been so much easier at 15 or 20 mins minimum, still stoked

Brian Blade & the Fellowship Band, "Ark.La.Tex"
Cymande, "Dove"
Dirty Three, "I Offered It Up to the Stars and Night Sky"
Do Make Say Think, "Goodbye Enemy Airship"
Fela Kuti, "I.T.T."
Gastr del Sol, "Hello Spiral"
John Coltrane, "Blue Train"
Lee Morgan, "The Sidewinder"
M83, "Don't Save Us from the Flames (Superpitcher Remix)"
Mark McGuire, "The Instinct (Prins Thomas DISKOMIKS)"
Mice Parade, "Open Air Dance"
Out Hud, "The L Train Is a Swell Train and I Don't Want to Hear You Indies Complain"
Papa M, "I Am Not Lonely with Cricket"
Philip Glass & Beck, "NYC: 73-78"*
Rachel's, "Full On Night"
Shuggie Otis, "Freedom Flight"
Tortoise, "Gamera"
William Onyeabor, "Body and Soul"

*not sure if this counts

(18/20)

Ween - Buenos Tardes Amigos
this is less than 10, unless referring to a commercially released live version that is greater than 10.

Sondheim is pushing the not-Classical rule, and yer outta yer damn mind on Cage and Ligeti.

I guess Kurt Schwitter "Ur-sonate" is well offside

Loleatta Holloway - Hit and Run
Taana Gardner - When You Touch Me

11/20

Powerline - Double Journey

12/20

Luciano - Octagonal

13/20

Mungolian Jet Set's 16th Rebels Of Mung - Clairevoyage
Ost & Kjex vs. Mungolian Jetset - Milano Model

20/20

Birchville Cat Motel - Track 3

2/20

I wish I had gotten the 128 gig iPhone now. Couldn't sync all the songs, had to cut it down to the ones I've actually heard, which works because otherwise I'd never have time to listen to the others. Plus who wants to listen to the Merzbox.

me

who wouldn't rly.

I stand corrected.

System 7 - Planet 7 (James Holden)
his best remix

My Dying Bride - The Cry Of Mankind
if there's any doom epic that should be nominated it's this one

Ott - Jack's Cheese And Bread Snack
trippy psychedelic dub, this stuff's so unfashionable right now that nobody will prob vote for it but i love it

The Sisters Of Mercy - This Corrosion
obviously

17/20

There's an absolute shit ton of awesome prog house and trance tunes I can't choose between and that nobody is going to vote for anyway.

If you nominate Lazonby's "Sacred Cycles" or "Wavespeech" or anything by Cosmic Baby, I'll vote for that!

Or Oliver Lieb's Spicelab and Ambush tracks.

Shit, I should've nommed "Sun" by The Ambush myself!