britney spears pretty girls?

what is this! who in the studio signed off on britney's vocal production? is this indicative of the next album? was the last album even good?

lots of questions

Q: what is this!
A: a circle of hell

Q: who in the studio signed off on britney's vocal production?
A: I hear she's from Australia

Q: is this indicative of the next album?
A: "next album"

Q: was the last album even good?
A: no

(the instrumental is still great though)

crazy

like honestly what goes through people's minds sometimes. but i have to say that i saw some vegas clips and she looks very very fit!

iggy azalea????? nooooooooo

listening to this through shitty phone speakers, it sounds like a bad l.a.m.b.-era gwen stefani song.

i was gonna say gwen but way worse

HOLD UP, BACK THE FUCK UP, LITTLE MIX WROTE THIS?

curiosity got the better of me when this premiered and i listened, it honestly was not very memorable and i already don't remember anything about it other than it being a bit of a retread of "fancy"

i will avoid listening again for now b/c i'm sure it will be forced upon me somehow anyway

i just don't understand her voice

i really don't

i mean, there are masters of production out there. with like, equipment. and tools.

britney hasn't worked with max martin since _femme fatale_, and as much as it pains me to say it I don't think max is the one having problems finding collaborators. (I'm not 100% sure who the vocal producer on this was, probably maegan cottone, and I doubt it's on her end because little mix always sound really good.)

but forget britney for a second -- is it just me or does iggy sound like she just slipped out of accent at the beginning of her verse ("killing them nasty" and then try to cover it up?)

yeah her beginning was definitely slightly off

the scansion in britney's verses is a total trainwreck

what a clumsy-ass song

CLUMSY ASS. is right.

btw katherine this is my favorite commnt from this thread so far:

A: I hear she's from Australia

shitty girls

don't thank me, thank britney

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6553962/britney-spears-teases-a-lot-of-dancing-in-the-pretty-girls-video-iggy-azalea

lol
"She invited me to her house, and I met her dog and we had salads. She's a very sweet girl. We hit it off," she continued. "It was so much fun working with her. I think she's from Australia. She has an accent. She's funny. She's really, really cool."

LMAO britney

too good

looooool

thanking u

OK bass sequencer, OK call for solidarity in the chorus, better Britney than the leaked "Tom's Diner" cover, below average rapping. Don't ask me if it's going to do well -- at this time last year Iggy Azalea's album looked like an expensive flop.

Tres Dancehall

I don't completely dislike this but am I the only one hearing a blatantly obvious attempt at recreating "Fancy".

just realized I'm not

it's the same producers, same igloo, not much of a stretch

the production on fancy >>>>>>> the production on this

and i thought fancy was annoying after the first 2 listens except for the baseline, which could easily play throughout the entirety of my life, maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV2uebhnqOw

brit is so cute and happy here! igloo doesn't deserve her radiance

yeah britney is great in the vid

it's funny how the video is a throwback to some imaginary 90s mishmash that juuust predates "baby one more time".

yeah tbh i'm really excited to see Britney in this video

i don't know if she's taking some vitamins or some shit but she looks fucking good

the editing is very hectic

the more I hear it the more I really, really wish little mix had just done it themselves like they probably were supposed to

yea i can see that

omfg just seen this video and nearly cringed myself into an early grave during the interlude

i would say it was down to igloo but it's britney too, it's all of it

i haven't seen it but her hair!

rly into tom's diner tho it's like, very Breakfast at Tiffany's

all of life is trying to re-do high school situations so that you "win" iirc

what the hell is this

lolol

I got to the interlude in the video and had to close every browser window I had open and re-evaluate the life choices I'd made which led me to seeing that

sounds about right

Would an earlier edition of ilx been more defensive of iggy? What does chuck eddy think of iggy?

oddly enough i was just reading one of the few criticisms of iggy that pertain to her skills - as opposed to igloo jokes or her being problematic - by erstwhile ilxor edward o @ the jukebox

Sure, she can sit down and write an album and deliver some verses, but taking this after “Problem” and all the hilarious YouTube clips showing that she can’t freestyle just demonstrates how un-versatile she is. You could cut out a few of her lines here (and she has a lot of them) and replace them exactly with equivalent lines from “Problem” and you wouldn’t notice much as she’s more or less just fired some new words into a template. Iggy Azalea is a cookie-cutter rapper in the literal sense of the word, and restricted to a guest verse here and there would be ignorable.

which sums it up; she's come along at exactly the right time to be mercilessly mocked, as much bc people love consensus in 2015 as for the various deserved stuff, but while that may not have been as strong 10 years ago i don't think there's much to go on in terms of actively defending her as someone who's worthwhile for more than a handful of pop hits

i do wonder whether she'd have been dragged like this had the climate actually been better for black female rappers (or asian! HONEY COCAINE), had she just been one of many

ok so i like, kind of watched this video. britney is v cute, lol. also pro-tip: the song sounds a lot better at a bar where there is a lot of noise to drown it out.

This song is already dropping down the charts. Peaked at 29, now down to 38.

I'm actually shocked this is flopping. Wonder how it will do in the UK?

It's kind of the quintessential kitchen-party Snapchat dance/lip-sync song. Also could end up being a wedding-reception staple for a while.

it's kind of scary

i don't see it catching on to the extent that ppl will be hurriedly uploading their lipsync vids or putting it on wedding playlists

maybe it will chart okay in the uk, they tend to still throw britney a bone and they haven't fully rejected iggy azalea yet lol

Would an earlier edition of ilx been more defensive of iggy? What does chuck eddy think of iggy?

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Christgau loves her, at least!

i still think the Sarai single was really good, we probably missed out on a better proto-Iggy with her

I also thought this would do a lot better than it has.

really! interesting. do i need to listen to it again? i might.

tbh i can't fault britney for trying to reverse engineer a hit out of charli xcx's britney impression

does britney's upcoming single seriously feature g-eazy

why is the music industry collectively devaluing the britney spears legacy/'brand' by pairing her with untalented white rappers

the interlude skit in the video about fixing the phone is like a scene from I-BE-AREA

nooooooo

underwhelming as expected

i actually think this is quite pleasant! g-eazy verse unnecessary tho, hoping that's excised in an edit somewhere down the track

maybe the hot ac stations will edit him off it but i'm not counting on it lol

I really like this. It sounds more like an album track than a lead single but it's a good sound for her.

It sounds like something from Dangerous Woman tbh. Probably would've made more sense as an Ariana single but that sound is a good lane for 2k16 brit

i love it

it sounds like something miguel would write for janet jackson

yeah i've gone from thinking "not bad" to "i love it" pretty quickly

the chorus is AMAZING

whoa this is sensational

holy shit that's what g-eazy is though? he's like the worst possible cross between mack miller and wiz khalifa

g-eazy is disgusting

g eazy has some decent guest verses but this is a bad match for him

I can't get past the cynicism of having first iggy then g-eazy on a britney spears song, it's as if team britney is saying "britney can't carry a song by herself anymore, but her market can't have a RAPPER rapper, if you're picking up what I'm putting down"

yeah seriously

like, a portion of the stations they're hoping will play this song edited ty dolla $ign off "work from home" even tho his guest vocals on it aren't rap

that's pop radio in 2016 though, a big racial hedge

New album Glory out on the 26th. Hopefully she can stick to the good album bad album pattern that she's been following since Blackout and make this another great one. I'm also hoping Pretty Girls isn't anywhere near this.

It's a shame Make Me doesn't seem to be doing anything, I keep going back to it a lot. It didn't even make the top 40 in the UK.

I don't understand why the video hasn't been released yet. She's lost momentum now and the song has dropped in a week from #17 to #52 in the US.

i don't think it was promoted in the UK.

I read that she'd scrapped the video which is obviously a terrible move. It should have been out last week.

well that's two singles i like

*gets hopes up*

the new one sounds like ariana grande's first album

yeah it does!

When I get Make Me stuck in my head it keeps turning into Desire by Jessie Ware.

i appreciate that she didn't sing "private show" completely straight but unfortunately her voice sounds very unpleasant on it

really like the new single

Make Me video is out, unfortunately it's a bit of a mess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etfJCm0nfr4

Apparently some of the original David LaChapelle directed video has already leaked online. I haven't seen any of it but people are saying it's a lot better and her fans are now demanding it gets released. The whole thing is a complete mess but it is getting more attention for the song which is good to see.

the lachapelle video involves Brit throwing a tv out of a window. it's amazing

this is like gimme more meets a magic mike-ized x factor

So, Glory turned out to be a great record. Brilliant production and probably her most varied set of songs. Man On The Moon is the best song she's done since Blackout. There aren't really any songs I don't like on some level. It's great to hear having so much fun again. Can't believe this is the same person that put out Britney Jean a few years ago.

Yeah, this album is shockingly great.

gotta echo what's said above; there's not a stinker in the bunch

Yeah, I've been listening to this all day. Such a brilliant record. She sounds so confident again. Britney Jean was obviously awful but this is way ahead of Femme Fatale which I always loved. There's just so much going on and you can actually hear her voice and personality all over these songs.

and the songs take many unexpected left turns!

lolling @ how "Better" is such an obv "Lean On" rip

this album is fucking phenomenal

Yes.

I pretty much love everything about this album.

"Better" is amusing but I particularly like the production on "Love Me Down" and "If I'm Dancing", the latter of which recalls Switch and Dillon Francis at their best IMO.

She also sounds like a dozen different singers on this album!

guess I have to download this before bed *sigh*

It's a brilliantly produced album. So far from the cheap and hollow sounding Britney Jean.

Yeah, her voice is all over the place. I really liked Femme Fatale but she mostly sounded really detached on those songs. Here she sounds so invested and like she's having more fun than she's had since In The Zone.

Yeah it reminds me of In The Zone quite a bit, the sense of her playing with different characters and styles, rather than projecting either a specific persona (Blackout) or an absence of same (everything since).

Favourites on first listen (on a flight) were If We're Dancing and Clumsy (!!!) I dunno about no stinkers but it's so pleasantly surprising after Britney Jean and Pretty Girls

Oh I also forgot the last song which is sung I think entirely in French??!?! so great

Yeah, that's a great way to end the album. If We're Dancing is one of my favourites. Man On the Moon, Slumber Party, Invitation, Just Like Me and Hard to Forget Ya are all up there too.

If I'm Dancing is the best Britney Spears song I've ever heard in my life.

ah, I just listened to a few songs and was wondering where some of the tracks mentioned here were : they're only on the deluxe version !
the track in french is quite wtf... but it's pretty cool (although I don't understand everything she says... and I'm french !).
first album from her that I care enough to listen to since Circus (which I didn't like much, especially following the great Blackout).

i'm starting to suspect there's an inverse correlation between cover art and album quality: 'britney jean' had her best cover art in years, and the music was terrible; 'glory' has an embarrassingly shoddy and half-assed cover, and the music is great!

Glory's cover is roughly the same as Femme Fatale's, isn't it ?
Funny, I just looked at all the covers and up to In the zone she looks like the young Britney then suddenly from Blackout on, it's grown up Britney (although on Britney Jean she seems younger than on the previous ones).

this album rules
wasn't a fan of britney jean but thought perfume and passenger were p great

really love Man on the Moon

I only started listening to current pop stuff recently after 15 years of ignoring it completely -- after doing a very detailed assessment and comparison of the various artists came to the conclusion Britney is by far the best pop star we have. She is the most consistent, basically, to my criteria. I can't stand to look at her but her voice is so strong, character-wise. She's like a candy-coated cartoon or something (so is Eminem!), a quality that comes through particularly strong when her voice is double-tracked. Her voice absolutely flourishes in different contexts and this is her greatest strength. She's second to none as a singing voice-actor. Her seeming artistic apathy is also a strength, in a curious way. She just does her job, and well!

She has a terrible reputation, and seems to have had traumatic fame experiences or something. I don't really know the details. Anytime I mention that I adore her brand of minor key dance-pop people look at me like I smell bad. There seems to be some kind of group-think conspiracy vis-a-vis whether she can really sing or not, which makes no sense at all to me. It seems to me the lady can sell a song in her sleep, no matter how dumb it is. Maybe you don't like her voice, but to deny the one talent she absolutely has? Weird. Backlash or jealousy, I don't know. It's curious. She is certainly strategically aimed at the lowest common denominator, and highly visible, so I sort of understand it.

I was looking forward to this album and now that it has arrived, I feel pretty spoiled by it. I expected it to be thoroughly irredeemable like the last one (I'm a big fan of the single "Pretty Girls" though) and was pleasantly surprised to find she almost sounds like the kind of artist that has a vision here (though not an ambitious one!) The songs are dumb as ever but also just as catchy and wonderful. About ten excellent hooks are all jumbled up in my mind right this moment, competing for my memory's attention. I don't remember which songs they are from. My favorite is the bonus track with the thrumbed Spanish guitar where part of the chorus involves her rhythmically intoning the nonsense words "seas of Cortez" or something. The french song just sounds like an updated take on a Francoise Hardy chanson, and I'm okay with that. The third song sounds like Stax/Volt -- a Carla Thomas kind of thing is what I am hearing. It is cute. There are two songs where she prominently drops F-bombs, and they are cute/silly, but the cursing is absolutely essential to the songs themselves and it works. Numbers 11 and 12 I like least, but they still have their moments of exceptional excellence.

The album overall is very shrewd. Whoever executive produced it earned his no-doubt huge paycheck, the thing is slick and unified, all the songs seem of a piece even though on close inspection they couldn't be more varied in style. I hear a lot of echoes of other pop stars and songs, but all filtered through the creature that is Britney Spears in 2016 and they completely become her own. I for one am glad the only ballad is the single, I am not big on ballads. The rest of the album is all energy and invention and colors and sugar-rush manic pop. The production is relatively subdued, the percussion in particular is mixed well in relation to her voice, which is single tracked more often then usual this time around. The whole thing is coated in a very strong digital delay/reverb or something and the overall effect of the album is that of an MTV-flavored dream. The album title and artwork are the worst thing about this by far, thankfully!!! I can't even begin to imagine how they arrived at Glory as the title of this just plain fun album of expertly polished and performed and completely, totally, unambitious pop ditties.

great review, partic for someone who hasn't listened to a pop record in a decade and a half!

I pretty much hated her VMA performance and the song she did, which was my first exposure to it.

yeah, exceptionally boring. the whole VMA show was as terrible as I expected

"make me" is my favorite song of the year (despite g-eazy). haven't seen the performance though. that they apparently slip into "me myself and i" is enough to ward me off

I was very into Beyonce's segment and the final Rihanna performance.

xp: yeah the whole thing was basically "G-Eazy featuring Britney Spears lip-synching poorly"

i am kind of enjoying this thus far!

and other lukewarm recommendations based on five tracks in for the first time!

"make me" is my favorite song of the year (despite g-eazy).

I have liked Britney Spears in the past, and have paid relatively little attention to pop music this year, but I literally can't imagine how this can be true.

it's one of the best pop songs of the year imo

very texturally rich chorus

I enjoy the album so far. Funny that they basically took half of the prechorus of daft punk's "get lucky" for the main synth riff of "just luv me"!

I have liked Britney Spears in the past, and have paid relatively little attention to pop music this year, but I literally can't imagine how this can be true.

yeah pop this year has been so bad that i had to resort to liking a britney spears song with a great chorus

lol, some variety of this conversation has already been happening over at "worst music writing"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/britney-spears-glory-review

I have, though, always been a sucker for the effervescence of pure pop music, and on some superficial levels this album is machine tooled perfection, in that every track sounds like a single, with slick grooves, zinging hooks, ear-worm melodies, catchy choruses and some little spike of tension in the Britney-shaped centre that makes you question your own judgement as you find yourself singing along.

this is bad y'all

.....?

the new album. like, we'll always have "toxic," but britney is p cooked i think; the singles here are like close to a current pop sound that would work but not quite there and thus it plays like karaoke almost

just as the most obv example, the fact that g-eazy is still the rapper she goes for - when she's long past the point of specifically /needing/ to appear safe or whatever - is fairly telling. (or maybe she has terrible label management but i doubt it)

idk this album is pretty much britney sounding like she's having fun over a bunch of well produced pop songs

this is prob her most adventurous record vocally

I don't think the g-eazy appearance really says much about the album: everyone agrees it's a misstep (including everyone who likes the album) and it's the only guest appearance. So it's not really indicative of anything about the album as a whole (obv. it says a fair amount of how Britney is positioned and the status of the relationship between rap and pop and etc. in 2016).

Contrast with Ariana Grande's album, where the choice of guest appearances is much more central both to the sound of the relevant songs and to what the album is trying to be or present itself as.

also britney probably had even less say in it than usual

g-eazy and britney share a management company and he's (sigh) this year's biggest white rapper. it's an unsurprising hedge - pop is littered with them especially recently.

did not know they shared management, that makes more sense. it's definitely unsurprising, and it'd be unreasonable for me to expect like, young thug - for many reasons, i do /not/ want to know what her reaction to young thug would be - my natural reaction to g-eazy in general is just "aw man, GTFOH"

the production is often solid, it just sounds like 2012/13 pop (and sometimes way earlier - like her trying to recapture the sound from her peak popularity) rather than anything fresh. idk. i think some of the enthusiasm this is engendering stems from 2016 being sort of a thin year for pop.

i'm listening to it again rn and i don't mind "just luv me" and "slumber party" but not much else is registering.

The run of "Clumsy", "Do You Wanna Come Over?", "Slumber Party" through to "Just Like Me" is really strong, I think. My favourite sequence of songs on any 2016 record so far.

Well, I like the album but I'm not sure Britney's relevant in the contemporary pop context. Isn't she completely has-been (since even before Black Out) ? (but what do I know, I have been almost totally disconnected from the current pop world for at least 10y !).
the album is like a lovely pop bubble.
right now, my favourite song is "man on the moon". beautiful chorus.

femme fatale had several big hits on it, plus a number of other strong songs. britney jean was a major misstep and probably the first time she seemed very irrelevant to what's going on in pop. so it's not like she was in a completely unsalvageable situation commercially. idk.

for me the best songs on this album by far are "do you wanna come over?" and "if i'm dancing". "make me..." is okay but contrary to other descriptions of its chorus as 'great' and 'texturally rich' etc. i find it rather basic. the verses are quite nice with the exception of g-eazy's which is execrable.

the pop that's made it to the radio this year is mostly terrible in execution (chainsmokers and their parade of
hiccuping sad girls, all that drake) or intent (meghan trainor) or both (drake again) so I'm ok with Britney just doing her own thing. at least the music sounds fun

otm

is it shitty for me to say that i wish she'd drop the overly worn spangled leotard and the over-the-top ooo boy look at my body nonsense that was on display at the VMAs? It feels dated and beneath her.

its fan service tho

yeah the stage persona is really dated and embarrassing at this point.
it's a bit pathetic to try and compete on that (dubious) aspect with today's 20yo popstars...
she's gonna end like Madonna !

as for the album, the more I listen to "man on the moon" the more I like it : there's not 1, not 2 but 3 killer melody parts !
the first verse melody (intro)
the second verse melody (after the intro)
and the chorus, of course.
(there's another part, a kind of pre-chorus, that is sub par)

and another great thing about that song : there are not two verses sections alike.
the first verse section is : intro melody + second melody + pre-chorus
then after the first chorus it's : first melody + pre-chorus
after second chorus it's : second melody instrumental + second melody + pre-chorus/spoken words

how brilliant is that as a songwriting structure !

and in a perfect pop world, "slumber party" would be a big hit !

and yeah, "make me" is very good (I didn't like it much at first) except that terrible rap section that almost ruins the song.
if I could excise it...
(just like on Selena Gomez "good for you". at least on that one, there's a rap free version !).

it's kinda weird when pop isn't popular, I dunno just to see ppl trotting out these old "Man in a perfect world the Replacements shoulda been HUGE!" arguments any Britney

hum. yeah. maybe not "perfect world" but in a less decadent/mediocre pop world, then !

so obsessed with If I'm Dancing right now https://twitter.com/sadhoeflo/status/768697237283098625

im loving the back half of this album - Better to Coupure Electrique is a pretty great run. Also just chuffed about the atmostpheric rise of Bloodpop.

this seems to be the Glory thread. the 2020 Deluxe version just came out (please don't confuse it with the 2016 Deluxe version!). it has three newnever before released songs, four years after the fact, no one gives a shit**, but I do like "Matches", the song with the Backstreet Boys that forks posted on another Britney thread earlier today - the gallop in the chorus & post-chorus is exquisite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0hb8oYDAcs

**HOWEVER, we do get the ORIGINAL "Slumber Party", which had been scraped off the internet, back. The superfluous Tinashe version has been disposed of. Four years too late, but still.