Janet Jackson - Unbreakable - 2015

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/janet-jackson-kick-world-tour-vancouver-august-article-1.2258430
no new york play? y u braek </3

But she's coming to Calgary!

And Minneapolis! The part on "Escapade" where she shouts out Minneapolis still makes me cry.

"With Rhythm Nation Janet Jackson becomes arguably the first female African-American recording artist to form her own record label."

"arguably"

Sylvia Robinson was a singer, songwriter and then started Sugarhill Records with her husband.

yeah, sugarhill was the first thing that came to mind for me too.

amped

No DC, NYC or Boston gigs :(

yea that sucks

No DC, NYC or Boston gigs :(

Tours get rolled out in stages. There's no way she won't be playing in those cities sooner or later.

yeah generally but there's also the potential for fatigue, tour not selling well, album leaking and replanned marketing...

i'm feeling "no sleeep"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_2_VgUdeq4

Yes. I'm unbelieeevably excited for all of this.

Guessing this one will grow on me like "That's the Way Love Goes" did.

this is nice

Got fifth row tickets to Janet in Mpls too.

for some reason i had trepidation about this entire comeback, maybe because that's my default reaction to most comebacks by legends, but ooooooooo this song is really properly great

ooh new song is so goood

love this, very much looking forward to the album. both this and the video clip one have such luscious Rhodes.

good tune

killin me softly. def felt the that's the way love goes vibes.

A nice counterpart to "When We Oooo" lulling me to sleeep the other night.

Eric H., I'll nod toward you from the cheap seats.

I love understated Janet so much.

^SAME

this slays

I like how she debuts with a slow one instead of trying to impress the kids with a banger for which she might be accused of sounding "dated."

also: "Lonely" and "Making Love in the Rain" are good influences.

the nod to "go deep" in the title can't be unintentional, right?

i'd imagine not

yeah I bee thinking that too

ayo
http://www.ticketmaster.com/Janet-Jackson-tickets/artist/735353?c=LNSM_NewYork_JanetJackson_PruBarclays_fb_announce_071315

Ugh, "No Sleeep" didn't need J. Cole.

ayo i got tickets!!! like super nosebleeds but going w/ my favorite co-worker and it's going to be so fucking fun no matter what

Ugh, "No Sleeep" didn't need J. Cole.

― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid)

I saw J. Cole and Jeremih available in a two-for-one package at Target the other day.

no sleep is pretty insipid. the come-ons in the lyrics sound completely tired and workwoman-like. why is anyone excited about this? and i used to be a massive janet fan.

You have heard the stuff that made you a "used to be" fan right? That "No Sleeep" isn't 20 Y.O. is cause for celebration.

Also, it's chill af.

yeah the fact that it's kind of pleasant and unassuming and maybe, if we're being generous, more in line with her '90s midtempo stuff, is pretty reassuring just because she was really flailing around stylistically with those last few albums. curious to see what the rest of the record sounds like and if this is just a buzz single for something else soon to come.

I love it -- exactly what I wanted. She and Jam-Lewis are settling into the comeback instead of jumping someone else's train.

it like legitimately gets better every time i listen to it

I love that sample in the bridge.

and she says "fait accompli"!

http://share.gifyoutube.com/KzxGpb.gif

http://thehairpin.com/2015/07/janet-jacksons-laughter-ranked/

“Interlude: Hey Baby” robbed.

I hope the album drops before the tour starts.

Just The Interludes playlist courtesy of my gurl Mickey

http://open.spotify.com/user/mickeyvetter/playlist/6uqYGH1XryLxXE9PGTQwqA

okay, i am fairly certain i never listened to 2008's "Discipline" and I did not know it existed.
anyone have anything good to say about it?

"Rock With U" is stellar but it's all I know from that album

I remember liking "Feedback."

I liked "Feedback" fine.

i like a lot of songs on discipline lol

"Feedback" was pretty hot. Her best post-A4U single.

gonna disagree bc "all nite (don't stop)" and "rock with u" were singles

great songs on discipline:

rock with u
feedback
title track
curtains
luv
can't b good

The first half of Discipline has some good stuff, but the back half is kind of a chore to get through.

revisiting 20 yo for the first time in forever and i extremely rep for "daybreak"/"enjoy"

For some reason I'd remembered "All Nite" as an All For You single. Still, I think I prefer "Feedback."

essentially 20 yo gets alarmingly great when dupri recedes

if i were more drunk i'd argue that "take care" is her best ballad and then i'd yell at myself for putting anything over "come back to me"

hello, i just thought i'd post here bc i don't think i have. i love this song. it's a very happy song for me. especially because i've not been sleeping much so it feels like i have a companion in the world.

oh no wait i did post here. well. it's still fucked up.

Yeah, she was amazing tonight.

AIIIEEEE

http://pitchfork.com/news/60155-janet-jackson-details-new-album-unbreakable/

Janet Jackson has detailed Unbreakable, her first new album since 2008's Discipline. It's out October 2 via Rhythm Nation/BMG, and features the singles "No Sleeep" (feat. J. Cole) and "The Great Forever", as well as a Missy Elliott collab called "Burnitup!" That's the artwork above; scroll down for the tracklist.

According to a press release, the album's themes include "Janet’s views on where we stand today as individuals and as the inter-related elements of a planet. Some of these relate to her convictions passionately expressed in Rhythm Nation 1814, including the need to bring things out in the open and to have a dialogue. The album also will mark the first time Janet Jackson has opened up about her brother Michael and with reflections concerning her youth."

The record continues Jackson's collaboration with producer-songwriter team Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Speaking about the project, the pair said:

It’s wonderful to be creating again with Janet. From songwriting, producing, arranging, singing, dancing, acting, she deftly does it all and truly personifies the word artist. Unbreakable is a gift to all of her fans who have steadfastly stood by her. It is a subject for conversation, a plea for compassion, and a call for action from someone who’s come a long way, but’s got a long way to go, and has much to say about it. In other words, if you want to know what’s on her mind you only have to listen.

Unbreakable:
01 Unbreakable
02 Burnitup! (Feat. Missy Elliott)
03 Dammn Baby
04 The Great Forever
05 Shoulda Known Better
06 After You Fall
07 Broken Hearts Heal
08 Night
09 No Sleeep (Feat. J Cole)
10 Dream Maker/ Euphoria
11 2 B Loved
12 Take Me Away
13 Promise
14 Lessons Learned
15 Black Eagle
16 Well Traveled
17 Gon B Alright

It's like she's trying to look like Chaka there with that coat and those rings.

new song is the best thing that's ever happened to me

it's tremendous - the harmonies on the chorus are just so breezy and sweet

http://www.vulture.com/2015/09/janet-jackson-unbreakable.html#

Wow great song , thanks :-)

omg there's another one?

is this whole album going to be like a 2nd coming

That's certainly how it feels to me

holy f

the one w/ missy is properly great, really surprised they managed to put out two songs from this project before this one

http://pitchfork.com/news/61358-janet-jackson-and-missy-elliott-team-for-burnitup/

this sounds like her best song in.... *looks at wikipedia* a while

New one burns it up
Can't wait for the el p
jj+jj+tl 4lyfe

yes her best song in seven years.

still good though

fire

fuuuck

she sounds a bit like MJ (in the best way possible)

Guys ... Don't scare me now.

Burnitup! is crazy.

studio version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QvdrmRphjc

this is great

for the record, here's unbreakable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfBL5HPS_jA

All three have been great!

I like that all 3 have been fun and playful. I don't want janet to teach me a lesson, I just want to party with her.

i'm glad the midtempo songs came out first, i knew she'd still do good uptempo records, but it was kind of nice to see her not put that foot first like she did so poorly with "Feedback"

Favorite of the 3 is no sleeep...deep evening sexytime vibes

Listening to "No Sleeep" on headphones at night made all the difference.

i'm crushed that the J. Cole remix is going to be the version on the album but the song is still good

I found myself on a jet full of prepubescent backup dancers who were contracted to perform at her Vancouver show.

Leaked?

yesss

omg

now I have to find it

I'm not allowed to stream at work, so I'm hoping that "yesss" and "omg" are reactions to the music itself.

yasss

i mean i've already heard the first two tracks but hearing them in sequence is amaaazing lol

dammn

I get now why she didn't do a lot of these songs live when I saw her

staircases of vocal harmony in these songs

*fireworks reflect in my eyes as "should've known better" plays*

Richard Marx?

"broken hearts heal" evolves from a quiet groovy electric piano riff into a full on disco song?

im so happy

jazz piano solo on night

halfway through imo she killed this

I will say she sounds more like Diana Ross than ever.

the opening of "dream maker"!!!! im crying

when Brad cries
everyone dies

feel like "take me away" is basically a j-pop song

this album is stunning

ahhhh i'm so glad it's good. "unbreakable" (the song) is my jam

IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE
YOU BETTER TELL 'EM NOW
TELL 'EM TELL 'EM TELL 'EM TELL 'EM TELL 'EM

"gon' be alright" single best piece of music released this year

gonna go die somewhere now

"Damnnn Baby" sounds like she's been listening to Dawn Richard.

I thought Rhythm Nation was the dream
guess I should've known better

plush

wow broken hearts is a gem

damn i want to hear thisssssss

what's cool about this album is that she's actually doing some newish stuff by her standards without it sounding like she's trying to catch up to pop? like, "dammn baby" and "shoulda known better" don't have obvious precedents in her catalog but they both are incredible (i guess "dammn baby" is a bit dj mustardy but it has a very janet groove)

in a way this sort of reminds me of the last mariah album in that it doesn't reach too far back to her classics nor does it feel like it's quite trying to play catch up... it's sort of in a very comfortable middle ground

also: disco

This is the first time she's recorded a bunch of ballads, each with a distinct sound, and not bore me.

it also gets into sounds that were always kind of in her music but never expressed as explicitly. thinking of how much "lessons learned" reminds me of joni

or "after you fall," which is a great janet ballad reduced to its skeleton

also the sly stone pastiche of "gon be alright"

pretty excited to tuck into this

i don't want to say this album underwhelmed me because a lot of it is just incredibly good - the ballads are so tactile and captivating, i wish "promise" was a full song but "lessons learned" and "after you fall" are very special. but as an album it doesn't quite cohere for me, a lot of the first half is...fine but not GREAT. "dammn baby" is awesome but a lot of the filterhousey tracks don't have much urgency to them. it's a good album if you take it for what it is, maybe there was no reason we should have expected her to return with a masterpiece

i've always thought discipline was way underrated but this is probably on the same level

this is way more consistent than discipline

the Jam/Lewis-free Discipline is barely even canon imo

"so much betta", "feedback", "discipline" and "rollercoaster" are as good as anything else janet did in the 00s

I'm sure I can create a decent '00s Janet playlist, and "Feedback" and "Rock with U" would be on it, but from All For You onwards I gotta fight my own indifference. A lot of what came naturally sounded automatic, and those albums were the first ones in which she wasn't changing her sonic approach. I could be wrong: I haven't heard 20 Y.O. since fall 2006.

Keep it that way.

i really love the closing track on 20yo

the '00s janet record that doesn't get enough love is damita jo which is mostly really awesome

anyway i was listening to this record with my friend last night and she was really stunned by side two, especially when it suddenly transforms into what she characterized as a "psych country album"

The full version of "Promise" is "Promise of You" and is only available on the Target deluxe edition.

And yes, Damita Jo is the post-All For You Janet album most deserving of re-evaluation imo.

The full version of "Promise" is "Promise of You" and is only available on the Target deluxe edition.

omggggg i had no idea i'm running to find this

"all nite (don't stop)" off damita jo is ridiculously great, i was gonna revisit the album last week but i no longer have it!

agree the second half of unbreakable is brilliant, but some of the bits before that kicks in feel a bit inessential

"Well Traveled" drags imo. Maybe it's the drums? Or the vocal melody?

"well traveled"'s instrumentation is amazing, idk alfred

It's possible I don't like to hear her voice mixed up.

"well traveled" would sound like well-earned corniness if what had come before had been more of an epic journey than a half-decent grab-bag

to be clear, there's nothing i outright dislike here (well apart from "gon b alright", retro cheese is not for you janet!) but "burnitup", "shoulda known better", "broken hearts heal", "night", "dream maker/euphoria", too much of that first half is just...decent-ish, some nice touches, but doesn't lift off like her best stuff does, it's just there

lol i would not characterize this album as a half-decent grab bag, jeez

i like pretty much every song here though

every song you listed is awesome

"dream maker" especially bc it changes keys on every chord (to simulate the decay of the sample) which makes it sound like a scritti politti song vocally

I looked for a Saadiq credit on "Gon B Alright" tbh

"shoulda known better" is a really perverse euphoric trance song, the way it drops off into nothing after every single chorus

i like pretty much every song here though

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, October 2, 2015 1:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

every song you listed is awesome

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, October 2, 2015 1:50 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like pretty much every song here but there's a big gap between that and "awesome"!

i mean, i liked it better before i revisited her discography and raised my standards

and idgaf about "retro cheese" when it sounds as ecstatic and present as "gon be alright"

ok lol

i don't think "sounding like a scritti politti song" is a high priority for me re: janet jackson

I still love "No Sleeep" w/out J. Cole.

i can't find the full "promise of you" on the internet -_-

well it wasn't a high priority for me either, lex! i just mean it's harmonically gorgeous

so is "2 b loved" which is probably my favorite song here

Can we all agree that Janet from Control through Velvet Rope is an unreasonable standard to hold anyone to, even Janet herself?

i mean that's the thing. I had no reason to believe that she and jam/lewis would release an album this consistent, especially one that builds over time in the way this does. i've been listening to all of her records for months in anticipation of this so their excellence hasn't diminished for me but I don't think their excellence diminishes this record either. janet, jam, and lewis made a record that feels both modest and exploratory and extremely rich in detail (the sneeze in "great forever," the piano over the displaced time synth riff in "night," the way "broken hearts heal" is the most appropriate mj tribute bc it sounds exported from the boards of off the wall) and, like, that's awesome as hell

wow i have to agree w lex

lol i'm prob just too enthusiastic

you got no sleeep?

actually overslept bc i listened to this again at midnight

"the great forever" reminds me of "radar"

"burnitup", "shoulda known better", "broken hearts heal", "night", "dream maker/euphoria", too much of that first half is just...decent-ish,

i vehemently disagree with this assessment!!!!!

"night" is kinda buried in the first half but i just need to talk about how amazing it is. the million janets in the chorus, the way the aerial "ooohs" combine with the ascending "after the LOVE tonight," how it becomes a straight up minneapolis funk song after the second chorus

niiiiiiight

God, I love the "Sexy Dancer" undertones in the last half of "Night."

i forgot "take me away", that's another totally blah one

yeah "take me away" is a bit schmaltzy

feel like "take me away" is basically a j-pop song

had to make sure i already said this. i like it

The second half of "Night" sounds like the second half of "I Wanna Be Your Lover".

"Take Me Away" is one of my favorites -- a change of pace.

"Black Eagle" was helping me a lot when I was in a dark spot last night. Someone mentioned "Dammn Baby" sounding like Dawn Richard, but that one's even more Dawn-like to me.

This isn't better than the Fetty Wap album, which is how I judge all albums in 2015.

"black eagle" is incredible. still wrapping my head around it

black eagle (feat. monty)

"burnitup", "shoulda known better", "broken hearts heal", "night", "dream maker/euphoria", too much of that first half is just...decent-ish,

i vehemently disagree with this assessment!!!!!

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 2, 2015 8:18 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this first half is near perfect

"After You Fall" ;_;

The liner notes say "Melissa Elliott p/k/a Missy Elliott appears courtesy of..." Huh? She's not Missy anymore? Is that like a really obscure retirement announcement or just some contractual detail?

pka is 'professionally known as,' that's still obv what she performs under and how she is named on the feature credit for "Burnitup" (now that i think we'll ever see a new Missy album at this rate)

now that i think = not that i think

ah. I knew someone here would be better than me at reading credits.

While the album is unrelentingly positive and clean-cut -- a relief for listeners who winced at the lurid content laced through Discipline and certain earlier points in the discography...

Wince. Is Allmusic obligated to keep reinforcing this tired line of thinking?

Meanwhile, Zoladz's review doesn't really stand up for Janet's last few albums but at least critiques the way they were received. http://www.vulture.com/2015/10/album-review-janet-jacksons-unbreakable.html

And I'm happy to see her mention how much Janet's voice sounds like her brother's on some of the new songs. I'd worried I was imagining it.

Wince. Is Allmusic obligated to keep reinforcing this tired line of thinking?

― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Sunday, October 4, 2015 12:01 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Acknowledging a line of thinking -- a common one, going by the reaction I'm seeing/hearing -- is not reinforcing it.

I wrote one of the few positive reviews of Discipline, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

HEAVEN IN THE MORNING

the outro of "Night" is marvelous. Man, if she'd recorded a whole album in this vein.

I wrote one of the few positive reviews of Discipline, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

― Andy K, Sunday, October 4, 2015 11:41 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're right, the reviews I was thinking of are older than I realized. I read a certain judgment in the word lurid, but was probably just having bad flashbacks.

co signing on the love for Black Eagle; think it's the deep cut that will stick with me the most.

i respect her willingness to put a country ballad like Well Travelled next to a faux Family Stone jam like Gon B Alright but I'm not positive i really am into either of them... but they both feel like they reward return attempts to try.

in any case, all three of the singles (BURNITUP, Unbreakable, No Sleeep [preferably minus Cole but he don't fuck it up too badly]) hold up to repeat listening super well; I have been playing all three more or less into the ground.

Dammn Baby, Broken Hearts Heal, 2 B Loved, Lessons Learned, Shoulda Known Better feel like the best of the rest

There's not many outright missteps from the rest of the album and some genuine potential for tracks to engage over time

For a 2015 janet album, this is probably better than it has any right to be.

"i wanna hear well travelled covered by the pistol annies" he said, knowing it was a corny indie fuxxxor thing to say

i like that afsheen remix too!

everytime dream maker comes on, i expect ghostface to start rapping

pretty sure BURNITUP is a top ten single for me; would love to hear more ILX consensus on that point.

WOOOOO AHMA SHUT THAT DOWN
KITTYCAT MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

one thing i will give to Disciple -- "The 1" is a better Missy collaboration than "Burnitup"

naw

The one song from Discipline that's really stuck with me is "This Can't Be Good"

"the 1" is good but it's hard for me to get over how specifically dated a rich harrison rip off sounds atm

The first 6 full tracks on Discipline are basically the only ones I listen to if I ever do listen to anything from that album.

"so much betta" has never really been taken out of regular rotation on certain playlists for me, it's one of her best ever bangers. head and shoulders the discipline standout imo

ctrl-f "The Great Forever"

what the hell is wrong with all of you

that song is wonderful, i've had it in my head for three straight days

The thing that's getting me, 5 songs in, is how... EFFORTLESS this all sounds, especially compared to a lot of the Jermaine Dupre-era

I mean don't get me wrong, the labored lurching of "Feedback" is totally what makes and elevates that song so it's not like I'm saying "THIS IS WHAT JANET MUST DO" (and I know that's Rodney Jerkins, not Jermaine Dupri) (btw I have never liked "Rock With U" and probably never will) but, six songs in, this album exudes class in a way Janet hasn't approached since... The Velvet Rope?

for me it's her best album since TVR, and I relistened to the otherwise fine Damity Joe on Saturday.

I thought "Night" was going to be a dip but then the beat started ^_^

this album is not better than 'all for you' not even by a longshot imo but it's def her best, or at least her most comfortable sounding & consistent, since then

I played All For You to death for about a year and then put it on the shelf and never, ever went back to it. The only song from it that I ever go out of my way to play now is "Doesn't Really Matter".

I wish I had more specific criticism of AFY that isn't "eh not bad." I thought "Runaway" was a better meta-comment on her stardom and her relationship w/a mass audience than "All For You," but maybe I love "The Glow of Love" too much for me settle.

"Dream Maker/Euphoria" !!!!!!!!!!

as we sort of talked about on the all for you thread, it's very formulaic compared to the velvet rope -- almost a 1:1 conversion rate. but it's still a front to back good album with a little soft spot in the middle & c'mon this album doesn't have any songs nearly as good as "all for you," "doesn't really matter," "someone to call my lover" & it's really missing those sort of suspended in air sex ballads like "when we ooo" & "love scene (ooh baby)"

i kinda consider "2 b loved" one of her best songs ever and think it def approaches the all for you singles

i'm insane though

So far, I agree nothing is as good as "Doesn't Really Matter".

"No Sleeep" is as good as "Doesn't Really Matter."

better

i'm sort of torn on "2 b loved" cuz those little bird chirp keyboards are a bit too reminiscent of "doesn't really matter" and as such the song doesn't quite fit w/ the rest of the record for me

i mean, "doesn't really matter" is a crazy high bar -- "all for you" has more great songs than this record imo

why is "Promise" only 57 seconds long

why is a pop kiss so brief

the full thing is a bonus track

okay "Well Traveled" appears to be my first wholesale dud on the album (but I've thought that twice before and then a verse/chorus hooked me) (not really happening this time, though)

All for You has three great songs and I'm all about the ballad epic, but beyond that it's her first by the numbers effort.

Would've pruned one or two songs off side two of this album, but otherwise it's so much more consistent than I expected from her by now.

"Well Traveled" feels like Janet covering The Lumineers

"Gon' B Alright" in comparison is like a lightning bolt, definitely enhanced due to following an outright slog

I like that they make Janet's voice sound like a squeezebox organ in "Well Traveled." Don't like the Lumineers undertones.

Actually "Gon' Be Alright" sounds like Janet Jackson feat. Wondaland

or working with Saadiq in retro mode.

shoulda stopped the album after black eagle

"Black Eagle" into full version of "Promise" would've been perfect.

why is "Promise" only 57 seconds long

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2015 3:32 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's a full track on the Target edition of the album.

might have to get that then

no sleep is the best cos of those dj quik-esque snare/claps

I'm still convinced he ghost-produced "Go Deep".

I thought "Runaway" was a better meta-comment on her stardom and her relationship w/a mass audience than "All For You," but maybe I love "The Glow of Love" too much for me settle.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 5, 2015 3:20 PM Bookmark

I've never liked "All For You" even slightly, but I immediately thought "Glow of Love" was amazing when I heard it years later. Really the only AFY single I like that much is "Someone to Be My Lover". "Doesn't Really Matter" is ok I guess. I didn't like it at the time. I guess AFY has had the disadvantage for me of coming out during my underground rap purist phase, so I've never been able to hear it with ears that were both fresh and open to it.

For my money, Damita Jo is her best post-Velvet Rope album.

I'm still convinced he ghost-produced "Go Deep".

― The Reverend, Monday, October 5, 2015 4:04 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

definitely. until i hear him deny it I will believe it

man "well traveled" doesn't sound like the dang lumineers

fkn hell the full "promise of you" is MAGIC

in general, re the all for you talk, i think this album is pretty comparable to it quality-wise, as is discipline, though the best songs on each of those are really different, as are the less compelling moments. all of them feel a bit overlong, it's not just that pruning them would have got rid of the inessential songs but made them a more coherent front-to-back experience - nothing post-AFY seems to merit its epic length to me

it's funny what a 7-yr-hiatus will do though; there was a pre-release expectation for this to be Peak Janet which didn't exist for her last couple of albums

when she was hugely successful she released albums every 3-4 years, so the way she started releasing albums every 2 years as her sales were dropping really made it feel like a frantic flailing downward spiral. i think probably everyone needed some time away to miss her.

If only the same were true for Stevie Wonder's last few albums.

for janet: social media landscape changed drastically, cultural interests shifted, whole generation grew up without seeing her as anything but an oldies artist, lotsa reasons but also the album is amazing

It's aight. A few really good songs but I think people are overrating this because they want to see Janet back on top.

Yes, but it's also a great album with at least four amazing songs which is better than a 2015 janet album has any right to be imo.

nah i legitimately love this

as uh evidenced by the thread.

prob my album of the year, don't really want to listen to anything else

getting no sleep?

yes alfred

RnR HoF nominated.

https://media.giphy.com/media/qRt4bcujgsj1S/giphy.gif

and likely #1 next week

I think that right up until the penultimate song this is a great album. I don't think it is as good as the run from Control through The Velvet Rope. I will be featuring it in heavy rotation for the rest of the year.

Upthread I said there's no shame at all that Janet (or anyone else) will never match Control > RN1814 > janet. > Velvet Rope

yeah that's an insane way to judge any artist including janet

"best since (but by no means as good as) the Velvet Rope" is her "best since Blood On The Tracks"

That list of Janet's laughs way upthread needs to be updated to include the one from "Broken Hearts Heal." A happier sound than any laugh since "The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite."

or a George W. Bush press conference circa 2003

Poll: "heaven in the morning" vs. "coffee in the morning"

I WOKE UP IN COFFEE IN THE MORNING

haha

Fun show in Minneapolis last night. Jam & Lewis were there, and the mayor declared it Janet Jackson Day. I would've liked to hear more of the new songs, but the only real disappointment was when the pre-show DJ played (apparently by accident) a few seconds of Jazmine Sullivan's "Let it Burn," then cut it short. It might've slowed the energy a bit but I was so itching to hear it.

Bonus: Janet lip-syncing Kendrick as bits of "Poetic Justice" led into "Any Time Any Place."

Loved this show so much more than the All For You tour.

http://www.vulture.com/2015/12/janet-jackson-postpone-tour-surgery.html

janet c'mon

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/entertainment/janet-jackson-postpones-tour-family-planning-feat/index.html

my show went from Feb to August and now to like probably never?

No word on whether Jackson, 49, and her husband, 41-year-old Qatari billionaire Wissam Al Mana, are looking to build their family the old-fashioned way or through other means.

what were ticket sales like i wonder?

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpUWrl3-mc8

tickets are cheaper on stubhub now than they are from ticketmaster, or they were a few weeks ago

bcz none of them sold out iirc?

janet y do u braek heart