Best Underground American Noise Act of the Noise-Punk Era (ca. 1998-2005)

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Breakout heavy hitters (Animal Collective, Lightning Bolt, Black Dice) and rock bands (Blood Brothers, The Locust, Arab on Radar, Burmese) excluded!

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Wolf Eyes 11
Yellow Swans 6
Double Leopards 6
Magik Markers 6
Sightings 5
Rusted Shut 3
Prurient 3
Fat Day 3
Excepter 3
Burning Star Core 3
Fat Worm of Error 2
Hair Police 2
Neon Hunk 2
John Weise 2
Monotract/Carlos Giffoni 1
Nautical Almanac 1
Noise Nomads 1
16 Bitch Pile Up 1
Mindflayer 1
Air Conditioning 1
Someone Else? 1
Metalux 0
Can't 0
Dead Machines 0
Sick Llama 0
Forcefield 0
Friends Forever 0
Gang Wizard 0
Hive Mind 0
Kites 0
Mouthus 0
Mammal 0
Landed 0


posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:29 (nine years ago)

Photo of a Japanese band, obv, but I like it

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:29 (nine years ago)

lol is that thurston moore on the left

marcos, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:36 (nine years ago)

ok yea it definitely is

marcos, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:36 (nine years ago)

anyway voted for fat worm of error since i used to know a couple of the dudes in the band, they did this amazing video installation thing at hampshire college sometime in 08-09 that was very cool

wolf eyes/yellow swans prob the highest profile in this list but they put out some good albums

can't say i'm familiar with many of the others

marcos, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:38 (nine years ago)

hard 2 choose

welltris (crüt), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:41 (nine years ago)

Since I can only vote for one, make mine Magik Markers: plenty presence of speculative persona in thee onslaught of absence

dow, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:41 (nine years ago)

Voted Hair Police, btw

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:43 (nine years ago)

no Sissy Spacek, no Aufgehoben

welltris (crüt), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:45 (nine years ago)

Vote John Wiese if you wanna vote Sissy Spacek

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:50 (nine years ago)

Aufgehoben is from England

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:51 (nine years ago)

Everybody's from Africa originally

dow, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:53 (nine years ago)

And everyone ends up techno in the end :(

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:53 (nine years ago)

the band

Air Conditioning

for

the album

Dead Rails

which was dope circa 2007

nakhchivan, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:55 (nine years ago)

Voted Wolf Eyes. A vote otherwise is just foolish. Love this scene to death. The big 4 were Wolf Eyes, Double Leopards, Prurient, Nautical Almanac. I'd add to the list Macronympha, Emil Beaulieau, and Crank Sturgeon.

Yelploaf, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:57 (nine years ago)

ahhh missed the American part of the thread title.

welltris (crüt), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:00 (nine years ago)

I would associate Macronympha, Emil and Crank with Ninetiesnoise even though they were v active...

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:12 (nine years ago)

I LOVED Fat Day live. One of the most fun bands out of this list for sure. Can't really vote for a "best" from any of them though, cause if I tried I would just go on and on.

grandavis, Monday, 21 September 2015 19:13 (nine years ago)

It is really weird to think how important Double Leopards seemed in pre-Vampire Weekend Brooklyn

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:13 (nine years ago)

Voted Excepter 'cause I always found their stuff really pretty and kind of soothing.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:21 (nine years ago)

Forgot Bloodyminded!

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:03 (nine years ago)

Would add Kevin Drumm, but don't know if he'd get my vote. Kind of leaning BxC.

Portugal minus Pedro Foster Cage (Spectrist), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:39 (nine years ago)

Lightning Bolt are kind of the kings of this scene, aren't they? I can see why they aren't an option (more Ruins than Hijo Kaidan), but still.

My favorite band like this has nothing to do with any of it -- the powerviolence band Gasp, from LA.

theboyqueen, Monday, 21 September 2015 22:16 (nine years ago)

Oh wait I see the Lightning Bolt issue was addressed in the prompt. Gasp, though -- "Drome Triler of Puzzle Zoo People" is THE classic album of this period.

theboyqueen, Monday, 21 September 2015 22:18 (nine years ago)

burning star core

flappy bird, Monday, 21 September 2015 22:51 (nine years ago)

http://breathmint.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/03.19.20.21.2004.gif

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 21 September 2015 23:30 (nine years ago)

most terrifying: Hair Police, Prurient, Wolf Eyes

welltris (crüt), Monday, 21 September 2015 23:58 (nine years ago)

Man, I would love for No Fun Fest to come back.

Shit was 1000x more important than anything that happened at 285 Kent with zero of the mythologizing and self-fellating

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:23 (nine years ago)

I still have fond memories of Wolf Eyes jamming with Anthony Braxton at Victoriaville (must have been around 2005) so them I guess.

o. nate, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:26 (nine years ago)

The noise scene now is mostly a rehash of shitty EBM and industrial, and is basically a bunch of dorks acting "cold" and "dark" or jerking off behind a table of gear.

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:31 (nine years ago)

Whiney you aren't on FB so you missed the John 0lson/Haxan Cloak guy thread involving ice cream

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 03:55 (nine years ago)

also this list is really East Coast-centric.

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 03:56 (nine years ago)

Yellow Swans played NZ but didn't leave much of an impression. Excepter were great at Creepy Teepee in Kutna Hora but wld lump them & Wolf Eyes in the breakout heavy hitters ...

Would vote UNICORN HARD-ON (also missing: Tan As Fuck/Taiwan Deth...) but Neon Hunk are pretty good runner-up. Saw an act in Guangzhou last night that was pretty Burning Star Core-ish, and I probs listen to BSC more than most of these in a Necks-y background fashion.

etc, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 05:30 (nine years ago)

Voted Wolf Eyes, tho they were never as great after Dilloway left.

Also saw and enjoyed: Double Leopards (nosier in person than on disc), Prurient, Hive Mind (creepy insect sound), Burning Star Core, Dead Machines, Mouthus (underrated - almost an American variation on the Dead C)

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 08:38 (nine years ago)

Unicorn Hard-On isn't part of this era.

welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 09:36 (nine years ago)

The noise scene now is mostly a rehash of shitty EBM and industrial, and is basically a bunch of dorks acting "cold" and "dark" or jerking off behind a table of gear.

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.
--posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten)

OTM

flopson, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 11:22 (nine years ago)

I am not sure they fit completely in regards to the intent of this thread, but one of the best live bands of that era without a doubt was USAisaMonster. One of the best shows I ever saw (again in that era) was a Lightning Bolt/USAisaMonster/White Mice/Ground Monkeys show in. But yeah, for me a list like this is pretty impossible to do.

Agree that Wolf Eyes was at its best with Dilloway. They seemed to get more ... cartoonish, or something, after he left.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:36 (nine years ago)

"... in Richmond" that was supposed to say.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:36 (nine years ago)

USAisaMonster was incredible, good call grandavis

intheblanks, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 14:29 (nine years ago)

Bunnybrains!

I think Pissed Jeans just falls into this chronology too, but maybe they're more like Blood Brothers?

Torn between Prurient and Magik Markers, of the ones I know.

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 14:38 (nine years ago)

And I guess JOMF is too eclectic to qualify, though some of their stuff certainly would.

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 14:39 (nine years ago)

dudes don't really fit any "scene" and are like 60 but Borbetomagus was the most intense live act I ever saw

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 14:46 (nine years ago)

feel like orthrelm also belong on here, but they may be too "metal" for this poll

intheblanks, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:40 (nine years ago)

Wish I has seen Magik Markers mark 1 a few more times live. Only saw them twice and it was totally great. Still love that band but the original trio sound was a really cool one.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:43 (nine years ago)

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 21, 2015 7:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is so otm. I saw Wolf Eyes at the Empty Bottle in Chicago in 2002 or so, and it was incredibly sweaty and intense. It felt like their instruments were going to explode at any moment, and that they were doing their best to bring this about.

intheblanks, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:59 (nine years ago)

usaisamonster was fucking good. tasheyana compost rules

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:16 (nine years ago)

Yeah. That tour was really great too.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:20 (nine years ago)

they were by p much any measure I can think of a 'rock band' but yeah a really great band, totally on their own trip

Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:26 (nine years ago)

I'd probably cast my vote for Wolf Eyes or Sightings...

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

This, I sort of miss being legit terrified at shows, haha

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:36 (nine years ago)

I've never heard of a single one of these bands.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 01:54 (nine years ago)

pedantry:
"rock bands excluded" and yet we have mouthus, sightings, magik markers, hair police, air conditioning, fat day, etc?
puzzling omissions:
smegma;
TLASILA (well, smith & co despite some esteemed company here would likely puke at being included with such a merry list);
splotch (oh no, but splotch were a rock band nnng - malfunction);
greg kelley/nmperign;
the living trash;
the skaters;
cock e.s.p.;
bran(...)pos;
zeek sheck;
graveyards.

never understand the wolf eyes love. i just get fremdschämen any time i hear them.

hate coming over as boreder than, but even back then "noise" was only "punk" in the sense it was a minor journalistic confection only supposedly melting minds as yet unmelted

massaman gai, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 07:16 (nine years ago)

This is:

Yellow Swans v Double Leopards v Wolf Eyes

Gonna vote Yellow Swans.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 07:36 (nine years ago)

puzzling omissions:
smegma;
TLASILA (well, smith & co despite some esteemed company here would likely puke at being included with such a merry list);
splotch (oh no, but splotch were a rock band nnng - malfunction);
greg kelley/nmperign;
the living trash;
the skaters;
cock e.s.p.;
bran(...)pos;
zeek sheck;
graveyards.

can't speak for Whiney but I've heard of every band in the OP and about half of the ones you've listed so that may be a clue to your puzzle

presume that the idea was to compile bands who came to a sort of prominence in the stated timeframe, whereas TLASILA, Cock ESP, Zeek Sheck all predate that I'd say

Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 08:17 (nine years ago)

i always associated greg kelley with jon abbey-esque EAI ppl.

But skaters definitely are a glaring omission, as are cock esp, and to live and shave in LA. Smegma may fall into that "legacy" category along with Borbetomagus and ... uh, Caroliner?

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 08:20 (nine years ago)

also Total Shutdown should be on this list, if you would have included Burmese (save for being a rock band), and whoever said USAisamonster, them too.

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 08:22 (nine years ago)

saw Skaters live three times, they were great but VERY QUIET by noise standards

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 08:31 (nine years ago)

also MIA - Hototogisu = 50% American

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 08:35 (nine years ago)

Michel van der Aa ‏@vanderaanet 8 minutes ago

London tube, noisier than a SunO))) concert

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 11:01 (nine years ago)

I'm not exactly familiar with the Noise genre. Animal Collective is considered Noise? This does not bode well for me wanting to discover the best underground stuff. Although I've been to a couple random Noise rock shows (in this era) and I liked them. They were heavy hitters that would come out and play in downtown Athens around Halloween. Standing two feet away from a thrashing band that didn't need a stage was pretty cool. I think I still have the wig one of the band members was wearing.

The Once-ler, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 12:00 (nine years ago)

Animal Collective ca. 2000-2003 was most def noize

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:41 (nine years ago)

cock esp should've been on

smegma is like a whole different trip, old hippies

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:20 (nine years ago)

Yeah, I think the "coming into prominence circa 1998-2005" or whatever the timeline was is the key.

Personally, I consider this more as a time/place/scene thing more than a specific genre, so it makes no sense to exclude someone like USAisaMonster (just my opinion). Similarly Sightings/Lightning Bolt/Magik Markers/Fat Day what have you. A band like XBXRX I only saw play with noise/weirdo bands from this scene, but I mean sure they weren't a "noise" band. They were really fun live though. Could get really tedious going down this road, so gonna stop.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:31 (nine years ago)

The bands that have held up the best for me from the original list are: Magik Markers / Sightings / Burning Star Core.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:32 (nine years ago)

yep. my pedantry is needless as always.
sightings / BXC for me too.
or maybe mouthus or fat day.
i'll get a nosebleed if i try & decide which.

massaman gai, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:25 (nine years ago)

it's cool massaman, i'd imagine that most ppl posting here like having their memories jogged and talking about these bands and scene.

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:10 (nine years ago)

I try to think about what exactly killed this scene, i think it was the last real organic punk movement based on actually touring, making connections, sleeping on floors until it just became ivy league brats sending MP3s to websites run by millionaires

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:44 (nine years ago)

This 2006 Thurston Moore Nightmare Before Christmas seemed like the peak of something - don't think i'll ever enjoy a better line-up:

http://www.atpfestival.com/events/nightmare2006/lineup

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:50 (nine years ago)

Yeah, he really did nail a moment with that. Kind of closes the book on the whole thing, really. Wish I went.

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:19 (nine years ago)

Voted Neon Hunk. They had a really enjoyable whimsical quality the time I saw them live, and I think their album was one of the best Load releases of this era.

This was a tough choice; I considered picking Hair Police, Sightings, or Burning Star Core. Gang Wizard, Nautical Almanac, and Friends Forever were also so great. Wolf Eyes too, of course, although I suspect they'll take this poll in a walk.

One of the bigger groups I associate with this scene that isn't on this poll is Pink and Brown.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:28 (nine years ago)

I have such a vague memory of going to No Fun Fest in 2006 that I can't actually swear I was there. But I think so... There was an upstairs and a downstairs, right?

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:35 (nine years ago)

I try to think about what exactly killed this scene, i think it was the last real organic punk movement based on actually touring, making connections, sleeping on floors until it just became ivy league brats sending MP3s to websites run by millionaires

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:44 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also non-retro, also immune to being licensed and used in marketing/ad industry

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:43 (nine years ago)

Yeah Pink and Brown/Burmese/Total Shutdown/XBXRX/USAisaMonster were too "rock band" for the poll, but all 100% belong in this thread

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:45 (nine years ago)

I try to think about what exactly killed this scene, i think it was the last real organic punk movement based on actually touring, making connections, sleeping on floors until it just became ivy league brats sending MP3s to websites run by millionaires

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:44 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also non-retro, also immune to being licensed and used in marketing/ad industry

― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:43 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ums and whiney otm

intheblanks, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:50 (nine years ago)

I try to think about what exactly killed this scene, i think it was the last real organic punk movement based on actually touring, making connections, sleeping on floors until it just became ivy league brats sending MP3s to websites run by millionaires

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:44 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also, ca. 2004 -> 2006 there was def a trend of many noise-rock bands on the fringe of this going the Daydream Nation route and getting decidedly more "pop" to various degrees of success, including Animal Collective, Lightning Bolt, Deerhoof, Xiu Xiu, the Mae Shi, Japanther, the Hella record on Ipecac, um, p4rts + l4b0r

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:52 (nine years ago)

with the apotheosis being the existence of No Age?

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:54 (nine years ago)

haha I was gonna mention No Age, and last night the band I was trying to think of that was from LA, had Ezra Buchla in it for a while, but then went more pop, was ... Mae Shi.

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 22:48 (nine years ago)

also non-retro, also immune to being licensed and used in marketing/ad industry

― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:43 PM (4 minutes ago)

didn't Captain Ahab get money somehow from the Snakes on a Plane thing?

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 22:50 (nine years ago)

wonder if Wolf Eyes gut some bux for that time they were on The Office

circa1916, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 23:51 (nine years ago)

Since this is turning into post-2006 LETS MONETIZE THIS discussion, I think Cold Cave in the Radio Shack commercial is probably the best example

http://scaryideas.com/content/15143

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:08 (nine years ago)

All of which is hilarious since the Locust somehow had a small industry of selling 5 different colored versions of the same record to dorks, and branded belt buckles and (**alleged, must credit Jessica Hopper**) coke mirrors and they didn't have to have Red Bull help them!

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:11 (nine years ago)

anyway, this movement was the last time i believed or cared about anything that wasn't kanye west or death grips, peace out

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:13 (nine years ago)

really appreciate this thread and the contextualization of a scene I took for granted at the time (aside from USAisamonnster, who used to play shows in our basement and were/are awesome guys)

sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:30 (nine years ago)

Hah hah, yeah massaman, I was singling myself out for pedantry as much as anyoneelse. Just hard for me to be objective about much from this scene/era, as it was very important to me at the time. I literally heard about almost all of these bands through friends, other bands, maga(zines), or seeing them in person. Very few from online stuff at all. Last gasp of that kind of thing for me.

grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:32 (nine years ago)

It lasted for a pretty long time and got more press than it maybe should have, considering the nature of the music, but it deserved it. Not sure what killed it other than that it probably needed to die in some way. It wasn't destined to go any farther than Wolf Eyes signing to Sub Pop and jamming with Anthony Braxton I don't think.

I used to make fun circa 2003 or so of the "Providence haircut", which was a weird thing where a bunch of bands coming through Charlottesville all had the Brian Chippendale hairdo involving the look where it appeared that someone attacked you in your sleep with a pair of clippers. It caught on more than you would have thought ....

grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:43 (nine years ago)

we used to refer to that as "rocking the grouphome look"

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 02:47 (nine years ago)

16 Bitch Pile Up - girls. boring, sorry.
Air Conditioning - sightings wannabes
Burning Star Core - boring
Can't - pretty good
Dead Machines - good band especially the heavily echoed horn parts
Double Leopards - good band usually, sometimes not 'on'
Excepter - good band
Fat Day - punk rock, annoying
Fat Worm of Error - eh
Forcefield - good band
Friends Forever - fiery pumpkins
Gang Wizard - black bean and placenta oldschool A+ free rock
Hair Police - never a fan but they tried
Hive Mind - brrrrrzzzzzzz
John Weise - very valley
Kites - comic books sometimes funny, interesting melodic sensibility, very weird person
Landed - best of all time
Magik Markers - great live band, great people, but they are a rock n roll band
Mammal - originators of today's thump thump technoize
Metalux - never really my thing
Mindflayer - great band, lots of fun live, feedback is good
Monotract/Carlos Giffoni - eh, not my thing i guess
Mouthus - really good band.
Nautical Almanac - visionary american outsiders; true freak flag flyers
Neon Hunk - bad
Noise Nomads - fun, keepin it real to this day
Prurient - too macho
Rusted Shut - rock band. bad.
Sick Llama - never really listened to this stuff
Sightings - great.
Wolf Eyes - trip metal. amtapes/hanson classic for all time
Yellow Swans

ian, Thursday, 24 September 2015 04:09 (nine years ago)

oops
yellow swans - lots of records. pretty okay usually.

ian, Thursday, 24 September 2015 04:11 (nine years ago)

no newton no cred

ian, Thursday, 24 September 2015 04:21 (nine years ago)

D yel swans - drone bros

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 05:30 (nine years ago)

Hair Police for me, no contest

then Yellow Swans

this thread rules

alpine static, Thursday, 24 September 2015 06:36 (nine years ago)

Feel like I missed out on a lot of this except for Double Leopards, Magik Markers, and Gang Wizard.

POX or C90 please!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 September 2015 08:43 (nine years ago)

Never really warmed up to Mouthus or Yellow Swans. Shows I saw (just a couple by each) weren't particularly memorable, so I didn't delve super far into the records. I know a lot of folks whose taste line up with mine pretty well really liked them, so maybe I just saw some bad sets etc. Kind of a problem with a lot of bands like this in that you could catch them on a bad night and it wouldn't translate at all.

The thing that Fat Day did that I loved was the use of the weird home-made synth helmets and shit that they wore and would play between songs. It was weird and fun in a pretty cool/unique way to me, and it set up the explosion into short blasts of rock well.

And yeah, Nautical Almanac the legitimate weirdest in a genuinely on-their-own-planet kind of way most of the times I saw them. Liked them best when they stuck to the cracked home-made electronics.

grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:16 (nine years ago)

Very surprised by the lack of love for Yellow Swans. One of the most lasting groups on this last for me, especially their last couple records, absolute stone killers. They got better and better live as they went along too. Not sure what "killed" this scene but it was mega important to me in college, doing a radio show, going to shows at The Smell and Il Coral (anyone?) I think there have been some interesting connections/evolutions from a lot of the players here...Wolf Eyes is still super-viable to me, at least live. Captain Ahab is in Clipping., Pete Swanson went noise-techno (pretty good!). I think a lot of these people just had kids/real jobs and retreated from the scene, as you do.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:57 (nine years ago)

Rusted Shut is the Crazy Horse of noise. i sat next to them at the bar, they seemed like they've seen too much. Band I would least like to fuck w/of any on this list.

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:14 (nine years ago)

are you running for garrison keillor of ilx or something, matt?

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:30 (nine years ago)

You know who is probably the most consistently amazing band of this class, if not the most consistently amazing band of our generation, is Black Dice

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:33 (nine years ago)

Here the three biggest scene round-ups that I remember

Ben Sisario, SPIN, 2004: http://www.spin.com/2004/12/art-noise/

Brandon Stosuy, Village Voice, 2005: https://web.archive.org/web/20050317000015/http://villagevoice.com/music/0511,stosuy,62088,22.html

Young Whiney, CMJ, 2002:
https://books.google.com/books?id=LyoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA1&ots=b-iNWXPcui&dq=cmj%20come%20on%20feel%20the%20noise%20rock&pg=PA53#v=onepage&q&f=false

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:43 (nine years ago)

hahah when i saw that article was from 2002, my first thought, was, it's about that Oops the Tour thing, and yes, i was otm

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:45 (nine years ago)

i was always deejbent that I was first on the ball with that but the other two pieces got way more play, but I didn't really know how the internet and timing and all that worked in 2002

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:49 (nine years ago)

lol @ deejbent, i was gonna say, i don't want to do "a suzy" and play gossip-maven here

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:50 (nine years ago)

Oops Tour was my Woodstock

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:53 (nine years ago)

who was Sha Na Na?

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:55 (nine years ago)

Quintron obv

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:57 (nine years ago)

I saw the Tampa show with Rah Bras, and the Brooklyn show with Avey/Panda iirc

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:57 (nine years ago)

It's kinda annoying that the only bands mentioned in those articles that are from the West Coast were the Locust and Erase Errata (i am a major fan of the latter). It's the standard alt-journalism thing though: the premise is that they are surveying "the underground" but then they only pick a certain part of it and just ignore the rest, and don't even do the boilerplate "vibrant scenes also exist in these other places i am not going to write about"

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:03 (nine years ago)

what bands would you have included in this thread from the West Coast & etc?

sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:07 (nine years ago)

which west coast noise band would win in a fight?

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:10 (nine years ago)

Well, also, the real ground zero WAS Providence, Rhode Island, which ultimately became a filter to/from brooklyn and baltimore, there's no way around that

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:12 (nine years ago)

I think it's great that they got so much attention. Nice people! Very industrious.

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:20 (nine years ago)

Providence would be nothing without GX Jupitter-Larsen.

welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:22 (nine years ago)

hahah and he's from the West Coast! (nb do not make pirate jokes to GX's face)

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:23 (nine years ago)

ha that was the point I was trying to make!

welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:23 (nine years ago)

also, uh, that other '70s Cali industrial noise guy who we don't need to talk about

welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:24 (nine years ago)

haha

sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:25 (nine years ago)

16 Bitch Pile Up -- seen them do awesome sets, seen them do ok sets
Air Conditioning -- no idea
Burning Star Core -- might just have seen him play solo? kinda a drone bro iirc.
Can't -- i think the first time i saw her, it was a wtf of the best kind, in that i actually can remember it
Dead Machines -- don't remember
Double Leopards -- i think they were overrated? not sure if i ever saw them tbh
Excepter -- only heard tracks from albums
Fat Day -- no idea
Fat Worm of Error -- saw them 3/4 times? awesome most of the time
Forcefield -- no idea
Friends Forever -- hahaha memorable show, band had lots of incarnations iirc
Gang Wizard -- really good? iirc, might not rc
Hair Police -- i do not rc
Hive Mind -- nice guy, ok
John Weise -- prefer Sissy Spacek, had at least one friend who had a major crush on the dude
Kites -- don't remember
Landed -- no clue
Magik Markers -- dude stole my towel, not sure how many people at the show actually liked them, or just showed up because they were supposed to like them or to hang with friends
Mammal -- no idea
Metalux -- only saw MV Carbon solo; really good iirc
Mindflayer -- don't remember
Monotract/Carlos Giffoni -- opening act was way better
Mouthus -- really good, but might not rc
Nautical Almanac -- fine
Neon Hunk -- don't remember
Noise Nomads -- no referrer, can't tell
Prurient -- don't remember
Rusted Shut -- no idea if i ever saw/booked them; too lazy to research
Sick Llama -- no idea
Sightings -- i actually never saw them
Wolf Eyes -- did not see any shows w/them w/dilloway; i saw them play in brooklyn w/Richard Pinhas of Heldon and have probably posted the hilarious story related to that on several threads already
Yellow Swans -- saw/booked these guys so many times; saw each of them solo in the past couple years. really nice guys. a bit too dronebro for me, but solid

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:47 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVOZeT2W6Bo

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:13 (nine years ago)

^ another west coast legend

welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:18 (nine years ago)

xp i have not smoked weed since 1997

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:26 (nine years ago)

worth mentioning-
needlegun
dj dog dick
narwhalz (of sound)
teeth mountain
grasslung
wzt hearts

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:31 (nine years ago)

that stuff all comes later

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:31 (nine years ago)

Wham City era

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:32 (nine years ago)

i think this "era" extends to 2007, based on releases, tours, audiences

sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:34 (nine years ago)

Sarahell, just curious what qualifies something as "dronebro" stuff for you? Not in a defensive way or what have you, but honestly just wondering what fits the tag vs. other stuff.

grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:44 (nine years ago)

I mean, if it is simply dudes who used drones in a standard way, I get it hah hah.

grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:44 (nine years ago)

moanwave

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:45 (nine years ago)

sustained broness

welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:45 (nine years ago)

i think this era extends to at least 2009/2010, ending with the last whartscape

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:51 (nine years ago)

Baltimore Wham Cityness A) owes so, so, so much to Fort Thunder and PaperRad and B) Completely went in sync with "internet music journalism"

There were/are great moments for sure, but it's its own era, come on

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:15 (nine years ago)

I'm with Whiney on this one. Obviously any number of these artists kept at it, and similar artists came up, but the depth and vitality of this particular iteration of noise-punk scene dwindled somewhere around a decade ago.

intheblanks, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:16 (nine years ago)

Also by vitality I mean the sheer number of acts releasing music and touring. It really was shocking the number of two-pieces putting together interesting noise records on, like Load, Narnack, 5RC, or just through sending CD-Rs to college ratio stations.

intheblanks, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:19 (nine years ago)

Baltimore Wham Cityness A) owes so, so, so much to Fort Thunder and PaperRad and B) Completely went in sync with "internet music journalism"

There were/are great moments for sure, but it's its own era, come on

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true, there was overlap but wham city wouldn't exist without fort thunder by their own admission

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:29 (nine years ago)

wham city was barely doing anything in the timeframe provided by the thread

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:42 (nine years ago)

i know, i meant band overlap, lots of them played whartscape & were still active when it ended, s'all i meant

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:52 (nine years ago)

Yellow Swans were west coast, that's why y'all be hating.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 25 September 2015 06:35 (nine years ago)

Black Dice most underrated band of the last ~~~x years?

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 25 September 2015 06:35 (nine years ago)

moanwave

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:45 PM (Yesterday)

moanwave (whiney knows this, but for the benefit of everyone else, and uh, posterity?): generally a solo project involving vocals, pedals, often a sampler, sometimes a drum machine and/or ipad is also used. the key element of moanwave is the vocals, which are run through effects, especially reverb (lots and lots of reverb), sometimes looped and layered, and rarely involving words. Mostly "oh" and "ooh" and "ah".

dronebro sometimes solo, sometimes in a group, 99% male. not every dude who makes drone music is a dronebro. The dronebro likes his shit loud and is often a big fan of doom metal. Sometimes the dronebro will refer to his music as doom metal or a similar genre, but there is rarely ever a drummer in dronebrodom, unless all the drummer is doing is cymbal swells, lots and lots of cymbal swells. Most dronebros play guitar or bass, occasionally violin or another classical string instrument. Some of them play analog synths, and the dronebrodown involves the esoteric expensive nature of the gear, rather than overdrive and distortion pedals run through huge amps or a powerful PA.

sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 08:08 (nine years ago)

Hah hah, thanks Sarahell. Makes perfect sense.

I do not hate Yellow Swans. I was just underwhelmed by them considering the considerable love they get (i.e., I do not know many people who hold my opinion that are into this stuff). I was also really underwhelmed by Mouthus, who were east coast jammers. Two times I saw them it was a big ball of mush with no dynamics, but I mean this was just the two shows I saw. Could have been bad nights, which most of these bands had.

grandavis, Friday, 25 September 2015 13:35 (nine years ago)

From a home listening pov, would take Halve Maen by Double Leopards over any other disc by ppl on this list

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 25 September 2015 13:47 (nine years ago)

rocking some Kites right now

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:23 (nine years ago)

I think DRONEBRO is a SF phenomenon abedded by aughts Aquarius Records and their penchant for writing variations of "DOOOOOOOM" in their descriptions

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:32 (nine years ago)

That Kites/Prurient split disc on Load is great, prob all the Pru you need

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:46 (nine years ago)

ouch, reading moanwave, and thinking about many people I know and/or have dated in the Bay

Dominique, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:52 (nine years ago)

PLEASURE GROUND is the only prurient you ever need

flappy bird, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:54 (nine years ago)

uh, Caroliner?

and this was actually the first band that came to mind for me

Dominique, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:55 (nine years ago)

Kites was really cool live. I still play "Peace Trials".

grandavis, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:01 (nine years ago)

Caroliner = 90snoise

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 16:01 (nine years ago)

Yeah Caroliner was inactive during this period. Grux was doing Rubber O Cement and Hans Grusels Krankenkabinet, Gregg was in full-on Neil Hamburger mode and Trey was doing Mr Bungle/Secret Chiefs. Not sure what happened to Brendan...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 September 2015 16:34 (nine years ago)

uh Caroliner was active during this period. Pretty sure they did at least one US tour, and I know I saw them play at least a couple local gigs.

The people you are mentioning Al, were members of Faxed Head. Different band.

sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 21:36 (nine years ago)

ouch, reading moanwave, and thinking about many people I know and/or have dated in the Bay

― Dominique, Friday, September 25, 2015 8:52 AM (5 hours ago)

hahaha, i was gonna tell Whiney to ask geeta about her former roommate's music, which is "classic" moanwave

sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 21:38 (nine years ago)

Did she live with Best Coast?

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 22:23 (nine years ago)

lol she lived with an ex-gf of Dominique

sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:28 (nine years ago)

I vote for Faxed head

brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:30 (nine years ago)

Dronebro is definitely not just an SF thing, there's a bunch of Portland dronebros. They are all over the country. A couple months back I saw a rarity -- a drumset dronebro who just did paradiddles for 20 minutes to a dronebro effect.

sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:41 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

Gasp, though -- "Drome Triler of Puzzle Zoo People" is THE classic album of this period

this album is weird, schizophrenic, but oddly beautiful

Dominique, Sunday, 11 October 2015 00:47 (nine years ago)

SIGHTINGS

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 11 October 2015 02:30 (nine years ago)

worth mentioning-
needlegun
dj dog dick
narwhalz (of sound)
teeth mountain
grasslung
wzt hearts

― flappy bird, Thursday, September 24, 2015 4:31 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BMORE ZOO

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 11 October 2015 02:55 (nine years ago)

i find it hard to jam to recordings of this a lot of this shit. just too brutal for almost any conceivable listening context. i put on a hair police bootleg on the way to work the other day and it hurt so much (on earbuds) i had to turn it off. but def some of the rawest live sets of all time. fat worm of error were like the closest to the ideal of the weirdest captain beefheart jams. i still think about that set all the time, there was so much space in between everything, everyone careful not to make their weird squiggly sound at exactly the same time. i opened for wolf eyes once, they were playing some dumbass festival that made them sign a contract saying they wouldn't play any other shows in town within 3 months so they were the secret headliners. they were such fucking pros. i saw sightings once, i actually like their records and their set was impressive but it gave me a headache. love reading whiney's heartfelt descriptions of this scene. i think this scene and the diy sleeping on couches circuit still exists though.

flopson, Sunday, 11 October 2015 03:10 (nine years ago)

needle gun was sexy as hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKlpzSYhr0M

flopson, Sunday, 11 October 2015 03:20 (nine years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 00:01 (nine years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:01 (nine years ago)

good poll; i somehow missed the Yellow Swans during this era, i'll have to check them out.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:55 (nine years ago)

what is it people like about wolf eyes?

massaman gai, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 06:30 (nine years ago)

They've heard of them.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 08:35 (nine years ago)

Shocked this poll got as many votes as it did. Could an Anthony Braxton fan contingent have pushed Wolf Eyes over the top? Thought Prurient would be higher, but maybe the ILX metal community didn't notice this poll. (Prurient's made some decent inroads into metal-land lately; his last album was on Profound Lore.)

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 12:34 (nine years ago)

Def worth analyzing the, like, 35 votes

dave cool goes to "Chill Whiney" Ironic dance parties (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:52 (nine years ago)

Pretty easy to say "what is it people like about _______" for any of these bands. A highly variable and "not for everyone" list of bands. Wolf Eyes sure were fun to see live in a small room, especially during the Dilloway days, but I mean your fun may not be mine. As far as setting a mood though they were pretty masterful at it.

grandavis, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:19 (nine years ago)

Def worth analyzing the, like, 35 votes

64. Again, a surprisingly high number.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:36 (nine years ago)

shocked to see Yellow Swans in second when I didn't even remember to vote for them D:

Songs from a One Room House in an Uninteresting Location (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:07 (nine years ago)

also I would've expected Hair Police to place higher, if only because their name

Songs from a One Room House in an Uninteresting Location (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:08 (nine years ago)

Mouthus deserved more than 0

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:11 (nine years ago)

Yellow Swans are/were terrible band, and truly terrible people as well. Yikes ILM.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:44 (nine years ago)

please describe what makes them terrible people.

sarahell, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:49 (nine years ago)

One of the members was caught stealing from a business that I was associated with and the way he handled himself throughout the entire episode was pretty... terrible! But even worse: their music.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:52 (nine years ago)

also I would've expected Hair Police to place higher, if only because their name

― Songs from a One Room House in an Uninteresting Location (bernard snowy), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:08 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, also they were awesome. I expected them to be one of the "tied for second place" acts.

Also for the grumbling about Wolf Eyes winning just for being the most famous act here, it's worth saying that they made really good records and absolutely slayed live. They deserved any success they got, even if you're annoyed by there being "one noise band everyone's heard of."

Also, yeah Wolf Eyes won easily, but the voting for this poll is pretty damn diffuse! It's not as though there was a lack of love for the less famous bands, they split 53 votes among them!

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:53 (nine years ago)

as in he shoplifted a razor from Walgreens or ?

sarahell, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:53 (nine years ago)

lol at "Yikes ILM." Sorry for not knowing about the crimes and personal flaws of obscure Portland noise band Yellow Swans!

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:13 (nine years ago)

truly ilm has lost the moral high ground

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:13 (nine years ago)

I was the Mindflayer voter

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:15 (nine years ago)

can't believe as many as six people forgot the round the clock TV coverage of the police chase xp

these are my pincers and if you don't like them I have udders (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 21:10 (nine years ago)

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i checked before i voted. thanks, wikipedia.

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 21:14 (nine years ago)

one of the guys= everyone in the band apparently?

brimstead, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 22:21 (nine years ago)

Oh it's two people.

brimstead, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 22:21 (nine years ago)

Feel like I missed out on a lot of this

POX or C90 please!

Co-sign

A Privacy Reminder From (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 25 October 2015 23:12 (nine years ago)

Keeping with whiney’s criteria (no black dice or lightning bolt, which are 100% the two acts to start with), my POX is:

Sightings: Absolutes
Troubleman Mixtape
Wolf Eyes: Stabbed in the Face
Hair Police: Drawn Dead
Friends Forever: Killball
Neon Hunk: Smarmymob
Pick A Winner (Load Records comp)
Magik Markers: I Trust My Guitar, etc.
Kevin Drumm: Land of Lurches (more from the art-guy side than the punk side, but his rise is concurrent with this and I think he’s worth mentioning here)
Burning Star Core: The Very Heart of the World

Definitely tilted toward the years I did college radio (2001-2005) and which labels serviced my station, tbh. For the bands that were too rock band for Whiney’s list but part of the same scene, I think the best are Pink and Brown and USAisamonster are my favorites.

intheblanks, Sunday, 25 October 2015 23:42 (nine years ago)

POX or C90 please!

Co-sign

― A Privacy Reminder From (Mr Andy M), Sunday, October 25, 2015 7:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'll make a dope mixtape this week, hopefully

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 October 2015 01:12 (nine years ago)

There was always something very "Vice magazine farm team" to me about this entire scene, maybe because it often seemed like a scene full of well-heeled Brooklyn "bros"

Which is maybe why the bands in this scene I liked best (Markers, Leopards, etc) were mostly the bands with prominent female members

Wimmels, Monday, 26 October 2015 01:35 (nine years ago)

is 'Brooklyn' now used as a synonym for 'people I find disagreeable for non-specific reasons'

given that almost none of the bands listed lived there or anywhere near

these are my pincers and if you don't like them I have udders (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 October 2015 08:27 (nine years ago)

Slicer is def my go-to Wolf Eyes rec

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 26 October 2015 09:01 (nine years ago)

is 'Brooklyn' now used as a synonym for 'people I find disagreeable for non-specific reasons'

given that almost none of the bands listed lived there or anywhere near

― these are my pincers and if you don't like them I have udders (DJ Mencap), Monday, October 26, 2015 4:27 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a scene is more than bands, you know

and If you expand to "Brooklyn and NYC" and add Animal Collective and Black Dice (and Axolotl, who is missing for some reason), there are more NY-based bands on this list than from anywhere else

also, location of No Fun fest, location of Dom's record store, etc etc etc etc

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 26 October 2015 13:27 (nine years ago)

lol new yorkers don't own everything

intheblanks, Monday, 26 October 2015 13:40 (nine years ago)

obviously this is covered upthread, but providence is the epicenter of this scene with significant outposts in the bay area, portland, new york, detroit, etc. and cross-over with a number of rock bands.

intheblanks, Monday, 26 October 2015 13:44 (nine years ago)

wait so the argument is "if you add these three bands from Brooklyn/NYC, then the list will have more bands from that area than anywhere else"?

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 26 October 2015 14:07 (nine years ago)

don't forget "etc etc etc etc"

intheblanks, Monday, 26 October 2015 14:16 (nine years ago)

tbf, not sure why those three bands were disqualified in the first place. If it is because two of them are not "underground" enough, I'd definitely argue to expand the definition of underground a little bit. All three of those bands were ubiquitous in the scene around this time. Several of the members of these bands worked at either Other Music or Kim's, and most seemed to be at every show within 20 miles of the Pink Pony. To me it's fairly obvious that this scene sorta converged in NYC, with many people from those other, err, ports in Rhode Island, Baltimore, and Detroit / Ann Arbor / Ypsi moving to Brooklyn at some point during this time.

Obviously just speaking from my own experiences, but Brooklyn absolutely seemed like the noisebro nexus at the time.

Wimmels, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:32 (nine years ago)

i'll grant that the a lot of activity eventually converged around brooklyn (circa the last two years of this poll's title), but this was very much a national scene with bands of note throughout the east coast, midwest, and west coast. Things happen in other parts of the country too believe it or not!

intheblanks, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:38 (nine years ago)

Also I think it was smart to exclude those three bands because a poll that's "Lightning Bolt-20; Black Dice-20; Wolf Eyes-10; 12 random other bands-1," is boring and doesn't really do justice to the depth of this particular scene. Those bands really are great, but they're already generally regarded as such.

Also taking Animal Collective out of the poll prevented the thread from being post after post saying "Animal Collective sucks!"

intheblanks, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:40 (nine years ago)

gtfoh wimmels

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 October 2015 19:42 (nine years ago)

the pull of brooklyn/new york in the 2000s is a larger story and not particularly "about" this scene imo

mattresslessness, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:45 (nine years ago)

this was also an international scene w traffic between USA - Japan - UK/Europe - Wolf Eyes<Hijokaidan>New Blockaders

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 26 October 2015 19:47 (nine years ago)

you can kinda say that about so many subgenres/ underground musical scenes with mostly white ppl though!

sarahell, Monday, 26 October 2015 21:10 (nine years ago)

and Axolotl, who is missing for some reason

uh, these dudes were San Francisco/Oakland

sarahell, Monday, 26 October 2015 21:12 (nine years ago)

that (one) dude lived in New York, and worked at Mondo Kim's in the village

Wimmels, Monday, 26 October 2015 21:27 (nine years ago)

at times the band was a duo, including people I know for a fact lived in Oakland and San Francisco. Maybe one of them relocated? People move!

sarahell, Monday, 26 October 2015 21:31 (nine years ago)

lets def have a convo about who knew the guys in axolotl better

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 October 2015 21:33 (nine years ago)

it would be more novel than discussing the merits of Black Dice or Animal Collective

sarahell, Monday, 26 October 2015 21:36 (nine years ago)

three months pass...

OK, gang, I made some mixes for y'all that should do a decent job summarizing this period (1999-2006) as I see it. I tried to be as complete as possible, but obviously no attempt at a Rhino-style anthologization of a scene full of lathe records, tape labels and CD-Rs is going to be totally comprehensive...

First what's NOT on here:

Even though many bands were making records before 1999, this is definitely starts at Fort Thunder and works outward, since that's where the aesthetics of a DIY "noise-punk" scene coalesced. Too far before that and we're too deep into weirdo Albini-produced Midwest Skin Graft stuff, San Diego hardcore and powerviolence.The bands from those scenes who aligned themselves in the post-Fort Thunder world are included

I couldn't get too deep into serious harsh noise, power electronics and void-gazing dead Hansen/American Tapes stuff because the tracks are usually long, and the bummer vibes would break up the flow of the mixes, so apologies to Bloodyminded, Dead Machines, Hive Mind, Demons, Sick Llama, 16 Bitch Pile Up, Newton, etc.

Also, the psych-fried Arthur Magazine drone wing of this era swing to far on the other end of the spectrum for me, but would probably make a really good mix on it's own, shout out to Gang Gang Dance, Growing, Excepter, Double Leopards, No Neck Blues Band, Wooden Wand and the Vanishing Voice, Electroputas, Axolotl, Skaters, Rac-coo-oo-oon, etc.

I had to be picky with the more post-punk and no wave stuff and Noise-Pop that was coming out at this time, and a lot of those decisions were made completely arbitrarily even though many of these bands rolled in the same very tight circles (I left off The Get Hustle, Godzik Pink, Deerhoof, Shopping, Liars).

It ends before 2007 since that was the real breaking point for the next generation of bands influenced by this stuff, which took it to way more colorful/happy/poppy places: Dan Deacon and the Wham City crew; No Age, Health and the Smell crew; Deerhunter, etc

Also, yes, I know there's two Canadian bands on here. Also, yes, I put a song I play drums on, which is a cornball move, but I couldn't resist.

♫ as we get older and stop making threads ♫ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:24 (nine years ago)

American Noise-Punk Vol. 1 (1999-2002)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cu60dvsaa09619e/American%20Noise-Punk%20Vol.%201%20%281999-2002%29.zip?dl=0

1. Fat Day - Dance To The Best Music Of Today
2. Men's Recovery Project - Frank & Judy
3. Olneyville Sound System - Immigrant Radio
4. Landed - How Little Will It Take
5. The Flying Luttenbachers - P.A.L.S., Nipple-Clamped
6. Quintron - Mysterious Rangers
7. XBXRX - Untitled
8. The Locust - Bring Your 65 Italian Carbine
9. Lightning Bolt - 13 Monsters
10. Arab On Radar - Birth Control Blues
11. Erase Errata - Tongue Tied
12. Rah Bras - Fungry
13. Friends Forever - You Cannot Do This Out Here
14. Black Dice - Smile Friends
15. Wolf Eyes - Burn Your House Down
16. Metalux - Clap-Prison
17. Nautical Almanac - Male Mountain (The Horns Of Dionysus)
18. Sissy Spacek - Untitled
19. Forcefield - Untitled
20. Hella - Been A Long Time Cousin
21. Pink And Brown - So Long Special Treat
22. Sightings - I Feel Like a Porsche
23. Mouthus - Sandonsand
24. Orthrelm - Untitled
25. Touchdown - Nobody Likes A Nomad, Or, "Simple Folk"
26. Animal Collective - Forest Gospel
27. Young People - Ron Jeremy

American Noise-Punk Vol. 2 (2003-2004)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kehn1ehcywzl1l0/American%20Noise-Punk%20Vol.%202%20%282003-2004%29.zip?dl=0

1. Neon Hunk - Beefmastor
2. Lightning Bolt - Assassins
3. An Albatross - I Am The Lazer Viking
4. The Locust - Psst! Is That A Halfie In Your Pants?
5. Octis - Kralls 12
6. The Blood Brothers - Burn, Piano Island, Burn
7. Upsilon Acrux - A Quart Of Zolex
8. The USA Is A Monster - No More Forever
9. Tyondai Braxton - Stand There
10. Numbers - Insomnia
11. Die Monitr Batss - Hand Model Death
12. The Hospitals - Again & Again
13. Total Shutdown - Ka Ka Ka
14. Vincebus Eruptum - Who Farted
15. Noise Nomads - Untitled
16. Black Dice - Live Loop
17. The Mae Shi - Virgin's Diet, The Hand Of Wolves
18. KIT - Untitled
19. Death Sentence: Panda! - Tribal Boyfriend
20. Les Georges Leningrad - Supa Doopa
21. Aa - Static Rights
22. Yellow Swans - Police Eternity
23. Kites - Big Ponytail
24. Coachwhips - You Gonna Get It
25. Can't - We Are the World
26. Wolf Eyes - Stabbed In The Face
27. Hair Police - Open Body
28. Sightings - Dudes
29. Air Conditioning - Accusation, Denial, Denali
30. Rusted Shut - Hatchet
31. Burmese – Headmaster

American Noise-Punk Vol. 3 (2005-2006)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6y67brh1v17w0on/American%20Noise-Punk%20Vol.%203%20%282005-2006%29.zip?dl=0
1. Fathers Day - I Have So Much Respect For Women
2. Japanther - The Gravy
3. Clockcleaner - Missing Dick
4. Prurient - Silent Mary
5. White Mice - The White Mice
6. Mindflayer - Gore Gone Wild
7. Monotract - Paper Bag
8. Magik Markers - Most Beautiful City On Earth
9. Zs - Olympics
10. Child Abuse - Pre-Emptive Priapism
11. AIDS Wolf - Chinese Roulette
12. Gang Wizard - The Pretty Ape
13. Fat Worm Of Error - Lets Fool The Meat To Hassle The Room
14. Parts & Labor - A Great Divide
15. Neptune - Equestrian Fantasy
16. Erase Errata - Cruising
17. Coughs - Bunny Slope
18. Night Wounds - Less Dead
19. Silver Daggers - We Didn't Pay
20. Shit And Shine - Here Come The Vikings
21. Hototogisu + Burning Star Core - Untitled

♫ as we get older and stop making threads ♫ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:26 (nine years ago)

dope

lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:46 (nine years ago)

otm

the late great, Saturday, 6 February 2016 03:18 (nine years ago)

Ooh!

Οὖτις, Saturday, 6 February 2016 03:20 (nine years ago)

very nice

Blood Brothers must be the only one on a major, yes?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 February 2016 03:31 (nine years ago)

That's a fucking dope list and a great overview man

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Saturday, 6 February 2016 04:19 (nine years ago)

thank you so much for this

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 6 February 2016 05:13 (nine years ago)

amazing whiney, thank you

flopson, Saturday, 6 February 2016 05:43 (nine years ago)

thanks whiney, this is really awesome

intheblanks, Saturday, 6 February 2016 06:00 (nine years ago)

Thanks Whiney!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 6 February 2016 06:03 (nine years ago)

I guess brainiac was done by 1998?

rip van wanko, Saturday, 6 February 2016 07:10 (nine years ago)

the singer died the year before, yeah

drive me to a girly rave (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 6 February 2016 09:51 (nine years ago)

these comps look like a very healthy balance between welcome nostalgia and shit that passed me by first time round, personally speaking

drive me to a girly rave (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 6 February 2016 09:53 (nine years ago)

I think Death Sentence Panda! was more like 2005-06?!

sarahell, Saturday, 6 February 2016 18:16 (nine years ago)

Sure, but track is from the 2004 tour CD-R

♫ as we get older and stop making threads ♫ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 6 February 2016 18:53 (nine years ago)

I'm too old; my memory is for shit

sarahell, Saturday, 6 February 2016 19:04 (nine years ago)

this is dope thank you

adam, Saturday, 6 February 2016 19:09 (nine years ago)

Yes, thanks again, Whiney, especially for jogging memories of Olneyville Sound System and Aa.

Sushi and the Banchan (Spectrist), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:18 (nine years ago)

Nice one Whiney
Nice one son
Nice one Whiney
Let's have another one

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:29 (nine years ago)

Thanks! I totally forgot about Neptune and their scrap guitars...

bentelec, Saturday, 6 February 2016 22:57 (nine years ago)

thanks whiney

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 6 February 2016 23:48 (nine years ago)

this compilation is great, kudos to whiney for putting this together. it's wild to revisit some of this stuff again and seeing it historicised and especially remembering all the live gigs genuinely makes my heart ache. it's interesting to see how it seemed stateside as I only saw some of these bands play in the UK, where fitted alongside stuff like vibracathedral orchestra, all the noisey Sheffield/leeds/Manchester bands. there was a proper scene for it in a way I haven’t really seen since and yeah some of those ATPs were amazing

ogmor, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 12:58 (nine years ago)

Yeah, this whole scene was a pretty huge part of my life for a good chunk of it. A historically interesting time, truly a one-of-a-kind moment that I feel very lucky to have been involved in. So yeah, thanks Whiney.

grandavis, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:32 (nine years ago)

atp nightmare before christmas 2k6 4 liiiiiiiife

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:35 (nine years ago)

^Yep - also the Instal and Subcurrent festivals in Glasgow (later was David Keenan's noisefest, featured all the usual suspects like Wolf Eyes, Prurient, Hototogisu, Double Leopards, Mouthus etc etc)

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 09:13 (nine years ago)

latter

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 09:13 (nine years ago)

AMAZING!

posted with permission by (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 10:37 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

I totally ignored this stuff while it was happening (mostly because I found the scene too impenetrable/daunting) so this is pretty interesting to dive into with next to no context.

irl lol @ "You Cannot Do This Out Here"

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 March 2016 20:59 (nine years ago)

I bought that CD just to make the mix since i didn't think the Killball record was really representative of what FF "meant"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:10 (nine years ago)

just prior to this I was listening to a bunch of late 80s/early 90s indie/punk/underground stuff and thinking how interesting it was to have these scenes that were completely antithetical and hermetically sealed off from mainstream musical tropes, just really unrelated to anything you would hear on any radio station or TV show. And this stuff feels like an extension of that ethos. the general sonic unpredictability of it seems like its major virtue.

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:15 (nine years ago)

damn i cant believe i was only one of 2 that voted j weise

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:16 (nine years ago)

Surprised Prurient didn't place higher.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 4 March 2016 21:19 (nine years ago)

thanx for making these whiney

this whole thing feels sort east coast to me though... although i guess most of the west coast stuff im thinking of / listening to ca this time is what your calling 'arthur mag' stuff. still wld be cool for someone to chronicle/memorialize some of that stuff as well

extremely online (Lamp), Friday, 4 March 2016 21:22 (nine years ago)

Lamp otm.

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:39 (nine years ago)

I totally ignored this stuff while it was happening (mostly because I found the scene too impenetrable/daunting) so this is pretty interesting to dive into with next to no context.

irl lol @ "You Cannot Do This Out Here"

― Οὖτις, Friday, March 4, 2016 12:59 PM (40 minutes ago)

you were an sfindie bro weren't you? the action was happening on spockmorgue iirc

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:40 (nine years ago)

oh I saw some shows and was tangentially aware of various people (lol Filthmilk) and I've always kept a toe in various experimental scenes and subscenes but a lot of this stuff felt very aggro/east coast and just kind of... why would I buy a record of this, y'know? idk this was happening at a time where I was def not feeling a lot of contemporary scenes and was digging more into older shit, just tons of stuff from the 70s mainly. The noise scene seemed like a real headache to keep track of.

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:46 (nine years ago)

i think that dude is getting kicked out of his space. He once backed into my bandmate's car. For a while he was doing noise shows in Potrero park, which were fun.

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:47 (nine years ago)

cops shut down the one show we tried to do at Potrero park, man that was a disaster. shouldn't have publicized it.

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:49 (nine years ago)

SFPD stopped us from setting up, brought along like 6 cars full of cops - 2 weeks later they sent a bill for $3,500 in overtime charges demanding that we pay it. fucking leeches.

(we did not pay it)

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 March 2016 21:50 (nine years ago)

I tried to get deeper into SF stuff (Hospitals, KIT, Numbers, Spacek), because this was a problem with the poll from jump, but if Lamp and sarahel want to tell me who i'm forgetting, I'm all ears

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)

we had this discussion upthread, where you pretty much dismissed most of the relevant Bay Area acts as "too rock"

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:15 (nine years ago)

lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:16 (nine years ago)

There was also a whole Chicago/Midwest scene that is somewhat included in this poll

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:18 (nine years ago)

we had this discussion upthread, where you pretty much dismissed most of the relevant Bay Area acts as "too rock"

― sarahell, Friday, March 4, 2016 5:15 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The bands you mentioned — Burmese and Total Shutdown and Mae Shi — are all on here!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:25 (nine years ago)

I won't deny that I do have an East Coast bias tho, because that's where I was at!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:26 (nine years ago)

Yeah Pink and Brown/Burmese/Total Shutdown/XBXRX/USAisaMonster were too "rock band" for the poll,

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:45 PM (5 months ago)

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:26 (nine years ago)

Literally every last one of those bands are represented on the mix

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:27 (nine years ago)

sorry, didn't listen.

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:29 (nine years ago)

did anyone ever see Doomsday Student before they broke up too? mems of Arab on Radar... i missed out

flappy bird, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:35 (nine years ago)

xp

https://media.serious.io/e4689aca1d119ab3/serious.gif

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:36 (nine years ago)

they were great!!! The best of the three post-Arab on Radar bands I've seen. They played with Retox (ex-The Locust).

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:37 (nine years ago)

xp - l-r: me, you

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:37 (nine years ago)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e4/3d/73/e43d73cc3004659ab98fea6e04615375.jpg

sarahell, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:39 (nine years ago)

plowing through disc 3 starting to feel like I need a break.

Fathers Day's "I Have So Much Respect For Women" oddly appropriate these days

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 March 2016 23:32 (nine years ago)

also non-retro, also immune to being licensed and used in marketing/ad industry

― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:43 PM (4 minutes ago)

Tylenols Ouch campaign

Fetchboy, Sunday, 13 March 2016 19:10 (nine years ago)

Ouch campaign was a real pioneer in what would basically be how the music industry worked from 2005 to present

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 13 March 2016 20:08 (nine years ago)

four months pass...

Just blasting these bands all day. This is rapidly becoming my nostalgic happy place :O

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 August 2016 15:12 (nine years ago)

as much shit as i gave you on this thread, thanks for yr mix.

sarahell, Friday, 12 August 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)

four months pass...

axolotl was rly good

am0n, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:09 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

Can anyone Leonardo those Whiney mixes, pretty pls?

Fetchboy, Monday, 9 January 2017 07:21 (eight years ago)

five months pass...

Guerilla Toss and Horse Lords are the only bands I can think of that formed after 2010 that belong in this class. I really miss the abundance of insanely great experimental/noise acts in the 00's.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 00:40 (eight years ago)

I would also shout out
Divorce: https://divorce.bandcamp.com/album/divorce-2
White Suns: https://whitesuns.bandcamp.com/album/sinews
Palberta: https://palbertapalberta.bandcamp.com/album/bye-bye-berta

But, yeah, pickings are slim these days

Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:44 (eight years ago)

My wife loved yr mixtapes btw whiney

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:54 (eight years ago)

:)

Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:18 (eight years ago)

i know they were excluded from this poll but i just found this video of Arab on Radar playing in a boxing ring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOfduAP8E8M

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:31 (eight years ago)

I really miss the abundance of insanely great experimental/noise acts in the 00's.

― flappy bird, Monday, June 19, 2017 5:40 PM (three hours ago)

they miss themselves too -- now everyone's older and is having kids and merch sales doesn't offset the cost of touring the way it used to, and now it's all about darkwave and minimal wave and live PAs

sarahell, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:39 (eight years ago)

yeah it sucks

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 05:09 (eight years ago)

now it's all about darkwave and minimal wave and live PAs

painfully otm

sexualing healing (crüt), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 05:17 (eight years ago)

dj martian always knew he would be vindicated in time

j., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 05:35 (eight years ago)

Full of Hell

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 18:58 (eight years ago)

what does live PAs mean

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 18:58 (eight years ago)

V disappointed I missed Whiney's mixes.

Idk why I never got deeper into this scene; maybe just out of fear that it would be exhausting to keep up with it all?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:10 (eight years ago)

well it's over so it probably wouldn't be too exhausting

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:19 (eight years ago)

Well, yeah; I meant at the time.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:21 (eight years ago)

it was fun- I remember there was a whole section at a record store here that was just CDRs and tapes spraypainted with like... leaves and twigs and shit glued to the packaging

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 20:12 (eight years ago)

Just combing thru the Wolf Eyes discography was exhilarating... RIVER SLAUGHTER is my favorite of all those limited shits I got

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)

Wolf Eyes has been really good about keeping their Bandcamp robust, and I've been enjoying the ability to hear a lot of this stuff

Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)

Why does no one bring up Sun Foot, Human Adult Band, PC Worship, Kaleidoscope, FNU Clone, Timeghost, HOGG, etc. Tons of bands are plugging away. There is no one scene, but the bands are there. Some one should start a label to document it.

sneaker_bomba, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 00:54 (eight years ago)

PC Worship and Timeghost rule

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:01 (eight years ago)

because the only thing less lucrative than being in a noise band is running a noise label?

sarahell, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:44 (eight years ago)

this thread is a treasure. was sad that links to Whiney's mixes were broken. still... a ton of stuff to hunt down. was peripherally aware of some of the bands discussed here, but mostly just got into Wolf Eyes and Yellow Swans - though tbh the only Yellow Swans album I ever loved was Going Places which is pretty much ambient music (and released in '10).

beard papa, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:21 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

yo this Universal Eyes (Aaron Dilloway / Gretchen Gonzales / John Olson / Nate Young) album is amazing

crüt, Friday, 14 December 2018 17:22 (six years ago)

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten)

I think about this post a lot

sleeve, Friday, 14 December 2018 17:26 (six years ago)

sleeve, you're in luck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZXOdpxYjeg

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 December 2018 17:28 (six years ago)

ever since the noise kids became ravers i miss going to a warehouse shows and watching a shirtless man stab an amplifier with a microphone for ten minutes

flappy bird, Friday, 14 December 2018 17:42 (six years ago)

xp cool show, shame about the audience

sleeve, Friday, 14 December 2018 17:45 (six years ago)

lol tonight is Merzbow and Prurient show in Oakland --whiney did you go to the show where you are?

sarahell, Friday, 14 December 2018 18:51 (six years ago)

its tmrw

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 December 2018 19:04 (six years ago)

ha geeta sez she will see you there

sarahell, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:20 (six years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpk157icl0lgsfz/American%20Noise-Punk.zip?dl=0

24-hour zip file re-up of all three volumes PLUS the unreleased Vol. 0, tracing the moment's 90s ROOTS AND INFLUENCES in powerviolence, AmRep/Skin Graft noise rock, SF tribal nonsense and weirdo rock, U.S. noise vanguards, no wave, Gravity/Vermiform art-hardcore and embryonic Rhode Island.

American Noise-Punk Vol. 0 (1993-1998)
1. Harry Pussy - Youth Problem
2. Couch - Old Man
3. Dropdead - I Will Defy
4. Born Against - I Am A Idiot
5. Godheadsilo - Precipice of Ice
6. Hammerhead - Swallow
7. U.S. Maple - Letter To ZZ Top
8. Caroliner - Salt Lumps
9. Universal Order of Armageddon - Clear Set
10. Crash Worship - Wild Mountain
11. Quintron - 005 Take Off the Wet Suits
12. To Live And Shave In L.A. - Lee Krasner 1949
13. Bunnybrains - (I'm In The) Bucket (Keith)
14. Man is the Bastard - Puppy Mill
15. Fat Day - Chigger
16. Chickita - Leave My House
17. Duotron - What!
18. Six Finger Satellite - Parlour Games
19. Brainiac - Vincent Come on Down
20. Thee Hydrogen Terrors - Mexico
21. Forcefield - Pac
22. Men's Recovery Project - Our Alaskan Brothers
23. The Scissor Girls - Vamps, Here!
24. The Flying Luttenbachers - Murder Machine Muzak
25. Crom-Tech - Queltrom-Victorm
26. Antioch Arrow - Chaos vs. Cosmos
27. Arab On Radar - Attack on Tijuana
28. Lake Of Dracula - Plague of Frogs
29. Deerhoof - A-Town Test Site
30. Olneyville Sound System - This Is Entertainment
31. Zeek Sheck - Beeper Gets Digested
32. Gerty Farish - Hey Seth, Why So Blue?
33. Replikants - They Will Get You
34. Cock E.S.P. - Scorn Lords
35. Lightning Bolt - LB.3.K6K3GU3.GO

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 16:35 (four years ago)

thanks!

sleeve, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 18:06 (four years ago)

luscious, thank you

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 18:18 (four years ago)

Many many thanks

beard papa, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 22:35 (four years ago)

hell yes just in time for summer road trips with the fam

adam, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 23:28 (four years ago)

Also, yes, I put a song I play drums on, which is a cornball move, but I couldn't resist.

lol <3

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 23:34 (four years ago)

so sick. thx Whiney

flopson, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 06:45 (four years ago)

Oh wow, thanks, downloading rn.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 14:32 (four years ago)

Vol. 0 is exactly what I want to be hearing in a vaccine hangover.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 14:55 (four years ago)

yeah psyched to listen to this, thanks. its funny, i used to love quintron but never occurred to me to slot him in w/that scene for whatever reason, but of course it makes total sense

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 14:55 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

i've played drums in bands with several of the Vol. 0 people ... feels like another life.

Thread Connection: this thread and "inevitable ilxors in their forties"

sarahell, Saturday, 24 July 2021 03:25 (four years ago)

two years pass...

Matador wouldn't release the video because hal Ashby had lawyers

https://vimeo.com/12280161

danbunny, Sunday, 26 November 2023 18:47 (one year ago)


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