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How many are there? Quite a lot I would have thought. And yet at the last Tory conference the best they could do was the Strawbs featuring Rick Wakeman on keyboards, Mike Read on guitar and someone out of the Brotherhood of Man.

Much more clear cut in the US, of course; you've got Toby Keith, and then there's Ricky Martin, Destiny's Child, Billy Ray Cyrus and others (Blues Traveller?) whom I can't quite recall, but all Republicans. And Lee Greenwood if he still counts. And, for that matter, contrarian Neil Young.

What about the UK? Phil Collins of course; Jagger obv; sundry Spice Girls; Robert Fripp (if you believe what Gordon Haskell says) and of course the truly INEXPLICABLE drumming leviathan that is Bev Bevan - but who else? (particularly those who claim to be lefties but vote Tory on the quiet, as Lennon did).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Gary Numan?

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)

yes of course! he sez he's gone over to new labour, but hell so did michael winner.

i seem to remember mark e smith bigging up the tories quite enthusiastically as well.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Ian Curtis.

those who claim to be lefties but vote Tory on the quiet, as Lennon did really??? when did this fascinating info come to light?

stevo (stevo), Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:51 (twenty-three years ago)

it's in ian macdonald's "revolution in the head."

and of course all those tax exiles from the '70s - bee gees, emerson lake and palmer (the latter now reduced to writing songs for jim davidson pantos) - oh yes and errol brown, who sang lennon's "imagine" at the '87 tory election rally!

also paul young has been seen at tory rallies.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike Batt is a confirmed Tory as well, I believe.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Rush are Objectivists, aren't they? or is it just the drummer?

my understanding is that Lennon never voted.

I think Lemmy thought it was a terrible mistake getting rid of Thatch.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Conservative Bastards: James Brown, Ray Charles, Eric Clapton (on occasion), Bob Dylan (when he feels like it: Bob Dylan is to politics as Bob Dylan is to religion), Eazy-E, Sammy Hagar, Stan Lee (of The Dickies), Mike Love obv, Keith Morris (of The Circle Jerks), Ted Nungent, Elvis Presley, Prince and Young M.C.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)

iggy pop! (nme '79: "i am a CONSERVATIVE!")

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and Gloria Estefan's comments on the Elian Gonzalez case seem to indicate she's somewhere to the right of sanity.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Interesting to see if the Tories make any use of Madonna when the next election comes, seeing as how she's married into a Tory family (her mother-in-law is chairwoman of the Kensington and Chelsea Conservative Association). Their secret weapon?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave Q.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:09 (twenty-three years ago)

We talked about this at the last FAP, Marcello, but I can't remember if we concluded that the BoM geezer was Tony Burrows (Edison Lighthouse, etc etc) or not?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

"Interesting to see if the Tories make any use of Madonna when the next election comes"

It had never ocurred to me before that "True Blue" might have been a political comment!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

The most conservative (not right wing) of them all is probably Robert Wyatt. How can you still be a marxist nowadays?

What about Springsteen? His feverish patriotism makes him rather conservative I would guess.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:16 (twenty-three years ago)

There is a whole German hardrock scene with a right-wing, sometimes racistic orientation which started in the 80s with the band Böhse Onkelz.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Nice point on Robert Wyatt - though whenever I've read an interview with him he's often made many interesting, intelligent and thought provoking comments on specific issues, especially regarding the media.

A lot of the concervative rockers just don't want to pay tax.

tigerclawskank, Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:34 (twenty-three years ago)

heheheh every (male) rock star is a conservative.

nathalie (nathalie), Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:40 (twenty-three years ago)

What about Springsteen? His feverish patriotism makes him rather conservative I would guess.

??? I think you have confused him with someone else. Or do you mean Lem Springsteen, keyboardist with Masters at Work?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 31 October 2002 13:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually to be honest I hardly know anything about Springsteen's political stance. That sentence above was just a feeling I had, the statement is quite possibly wrong.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)

well, springsteen didn't much like reagan appropriating "Born In The USA" for his presidential campaign theme song. perhaps over-earnest, undoubtedly a patriot but certainly not in the Republican sense ("a true patriot questions things" to quote jello biafra).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

You're definitely wrong I'm afraid, Alex.

I greatly enjoyed the tory press going into spasms when he met various miners' support groups and made contributions during the Miners' Strike. This big US rock star that they'd all been going overboard about due to Born in the USA suddenly had something to say about things a little closer to home and they didn't like it.

And his support for various workers' causes in the States is well documented.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I seem to remember that back in the 1980s Neil Young endorsed Reagan. And aren't the Kirkwood brothers (Meat Puppets) Republicans?

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:10 (twenty-three years ago)

My Khmer Rouge membership card sez otherwise

dave q, Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Errol Brown of Hot Chocolate sang imagine at a Tory party conference. I can only assume that he's got a highly developed sense of irony.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Whoops, missed Marcello's post earlier in thread.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

1980s Neil Young endorsed Reagan.
Yup, but he also admitted he was drunk during the 80s didnt he?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:35 (twenty-three years ago)

The NME used to do vox pops at election time, asking pop stars how they were voting (now I suspect they just ask Blair and Kennedy what's playing on their ringtones). From the '80s I remember Imagination, Mike Oldfield and Rod Stewart coming out for the Tories (is the jury still out on K*ll*ng J*k*?) and - I regret to say this - in 1987 Billy MacKenzie said that he would be voting Tory ('tho he subsequently said he was being ironic and was really an SNP man).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

oh and tom jones is now a US citizen (hah you can interpret that any way you like!) but says he were still here he would vote tory.

and in all the '97 hoohah about "i'll leave this country if labour get in" - phil collins, paul daniels, lloyd webber - i believe david essex said the same thing.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Are Destiny's Child Republicans? I'm sure I've seen pics of them hangin' with Chelsea Clinton (not that that necessarily means anything).

Shaun Ryder as well.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 31 October 2002 15:07 (twenty-three years ago)

appeared and sung at dubya's inauguration ceremony.

that is destiny's child, you understand, not shaun ryder.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Pro-lifers - Gary Cherone, Arrested Development, Dolores Cranberry

dave q, Thursday, 31 October 2002 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

In the US: Johnny Ramone, unfortunately. Approximate quote from Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame induction: "God bless America, and god bless George W. Bush!"
Boo.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Give me a break. How many 20-year-olds are going to turn down the opportunity to sing at the Presidential Inauguration, particularly if the man becoming president was the governer of their home state?

I'm not saying it's impossible or even improbable for DC to be Republicans, but you'll have to give me better evidence than that. Singing at a Repblican Convention would be a lot more convincing.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1438421/01232001/martin_ricky.jhtml

Have a read and make your own mind up.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

"I wanna hear you say Bush!"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 October 2002 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Pretty sure Jerry Lee Lewis is conservative.
I think David Bowie and Lou Reed both had a conservative phases.

Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Thursday, 31 October 2002 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I still remember the phrase "angry republican asshole" being attached to Neil Young around the time of the Freedom album.

Back when the NME was good

tigerclawskank, Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

neil young not only praised Reagan & advocated an a-bomb first-strike on the russkies during his early eighties "old ways" period, he made comments about how Americans needed to be protected from "faggots with AIDS"

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Frank Zappa used to call himself a "practical conservative." Though I'd peg his politics closer to libertarianism. His widow and his kids are all Democrats, though.

FWIW, Billy Ray Cyrus supported Gore (not Bush).

Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Totally off topic, but check these two song titles next to each other in Marcello's vh1.com link:

Matchbox 20
Hear "Disease" from their forthcoming disc.

Busta Rhymes
Listen to new song, "Make It Clap."


Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

The usage of "Born In The USA" in the Republican campaign goes to show how illiterate those politicians have to be. It's the complete opposite of what they thought it advocated. It was about the gloomy post-Vietnam-debacle America.

nathalie (nathalie), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Born In The USA was about blue collar workers being maimed and killed to help check the spread of communism and then being downsized and their jobs moved to cheap third world sweatshops while the plutocrats sit safe at home on their huge piles of cash. Sounds in keeping with republican policy to me.

tigerclawskank, Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:06 (twenty-three years ago)

raving right winger - that Vander bloke from Magma

phil turnbull (philT), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

raving right winger - that Vander bloke from Magma

Supposedly he just right wing stuff just to rile people up, but who knows. The translated lyrics from Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh could easily be taken as right-leaning.

^Diego^ (dhadis), Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)

uh, "said" should be in there.

^Diego^ (dhadis), Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Eazy-E

gygax!, Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I think David Bowie and Lou Reed both had a conservative phases.
Bowie...Conservative?! No. If you give him enough blow, he morphs into a full-blown Nazi...but I suspect thats the drugs talking.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I also heard Neil Young had to have his stomach pumped backstage from swallowing a pint of semen.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 31 October 2002 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Roger Waters performed at the recent Countryside Alliance shindig - anyone know what *his* politics are? A Waters fan on Usenet calls him an "anti-government anarchist" and points to anti-Tory lyrics he wrote in the 80s and early 90s, not that I'd know anything about that.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 1 November 2002 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Can't believe nobody's mentioned Paul Weller.

Charlie (Charlie), Friday, 1 November 2002 00:29 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm pretty sure i read that robert wyatt had quit the communist party a couple of years ago.

Yes/No Interlude (Yes/No Interlude), Friday, 1 November 2002 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)

as it happens there are several different Communist and quasi-Communist parties around now (the old Communist Party of Great Britain disbanded itself in 1991) so you might be confused ...

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 1 November 2002 00:59 (twenty-three years ago)

eric clapton said some shit about enoch powell was right & britain should stop accepting african/indian/west indies/etc immigrants didn't he?

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 1 November 2002 01:41 (twenty-three years ago)

oh someone already said him

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 1 November 2002 01:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike Fucking Love

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 1 November 2002 01:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I also heard Neil Young had to have his stomach pumped backstage from swallowing a pint of semen.

If only he had swallowed rather than dribbling the stuff out in 'releases'.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 1 November 2002 02:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Has nobody mentioned the Huge Nuge yet?

wl (wl), Friday, 1 November 2002 02:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Steely Dan/Doobie Brothers guitarist Jeff Baxter has run several times (unsuccessfully) for a California State Assembly seat as a hard line Republican.

Didn't Art Alexias from Everclear appear at a Republican fund raiser of some sort?

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Friday, 1 November 2002 02:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Stewart Copeland

Micheline Gros-Jean (Micheline), Friday, 1 November 2002 03:10 (twenty-three years ago)

sonny bono

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 1 November 2002 03:40 (twenty-three years ago)

sgt barry sadler

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 1 November 2002 03:41 (twenty-three years ago)

charles manson

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 1 November 2002 03:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Re. Roger Waters: as I understand it, politically he's roughly at the same point as John Mortimer, i.e. Labour voter but pro-countryside.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 November 2002 08:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Manson - isn't he more of a lunatic. I mean obviously he's got whole racial war vibe going which isn't gonna win too many points on the right-on-ometer but it was ahrdly part of a well thought out (or even remotely thought out) political programme.

tigerclawskank, Friday, 1 November 2002 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)

much the same point as me, then, except I'm left-wing, anti-*hunting*, but pro-countryside.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 1 November 2002 21:40 (twenty-three years ago)

not a pop star, but Bruno Brookes went to see Mrs Thatcher in Downing Street at the height of his Radio 1 fame - about 1987, I reckon.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 1 November 2002 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Sun Ra for believing in voting for the man with the most money.

hamish (hamish), Saturday, 2 November 2002 02:12 (twenty-three years ago)

FWIW, Billy Ray Cyrus supported Gore (not Bush).

HOW did you acquire this information?

naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 2 November 2002 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

he told me while i wz styling his hair

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Keith Morris (of Black Flag and Circle Jerks). James Brown. Mike Love.

Evan, Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:02 (twenty-three years ago)

five months pass...
Ray Parker Jr.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 10 April 2003 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave Q.

-- Andrew L (andrewlittlefiel...), October 31st, 2002.

hahaha

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Come to think of it, I actually believe the entire Beach Boys have been mentioned being republicans, not only Mike Love.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 10 April 2003 19:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Nugent OWNS this thread.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Nugent OWNS this thread.

How about Screwdriver? :-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:18 (twenty-three years ago)

And Varg Vikernes of Burzum also belongs here, obviously

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 11 April 2003 00:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Jeff Baxter's actually a Pentagon consultant, due to his apparent lore of tactical missiles. crazy.

Springsteen is definitely sympathetic towards labour issues, so I'd severely doubt he'd ever vote Republican. His 'Ghost of Tom Joad' album was a tribute to a California labour activist, iirc. His patriotism, as I understand, is more in the name of working class America than 'God and Country'.

derrick (derrick), Friday, 11 April 2003 03:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Danny Elfman, "There's Nothing Wrong With Capitalism"? But I don't know what his politics really are other than that one critique; I've heard he's right.

Eazy E wasn't a Republican; he pretty resented all the inaccurate publicity that supported that contribution or appearance or whatever.

Eric Vinyl, Friday, 11 April 2003 08:21 (twenty-three years ago)

"Tom Joad" is the main character in "The Grapes of Wrath", set in the depression. Springsteen's clearly a leftist patriot.

The Ramones once supported Reagan, but "Howling at the Moon" and "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" and "The KKK Took My Baby Away" seemed to unwind that. Perhaps Johnny gritted his teeth during that period.

A lot of rap is broadly right wing socially and economically, while being countercultural and anti-establishment. And Boot from the Coup cops to being a communist.

phil wise (beachbum), Friday, 11 April 2003 10:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Neil's asinine "Let's Roll" gets him special attention from me, I reckon. The Nuge is just too funny for me to take seriously, when it comes to politics.

And Weller, yeah. Anyone remember the Marc Riley and the Creepers tune ("Bard of Wokking") about "dim-wit Weller!" Heh.

M Specktor (M Specktor), Friday, 11 April 2003 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.ytv.com/programming/shows/spongebob/img/title-02.gif

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 11 April 2003 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
8 Mile is like a right wing message movie.

system breakdown, Monday, 9 June 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Does Robert Palmer dress to the Right?

Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Some listed seem kind of odd reasons for being "right-wing."

Being "New Labour" in the US would place you right about the middle of the Democratic Party, and in large parts of the country get you labelled a commie.

And writing a song that says capitalism is OK - even the Greens are supportive of capitalism over here.

What about Paul McCartney? Didn't he pull right after 9/11?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Bridget Bardot - pro animal, but not so keen on immigrants I hear. Isn't she married to Front Nationalle mayor or something?

Robin Goad (rgoad), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

McCartney's from Liverpool tho, no way he could ever be anything but communist

dave q, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, i think johnny ramone was the only out-and-out right winger among the ramones. joey was def. a democrat. not to mention that he co-wrote "bonzo goes to bitburg" with dee-dee, who didn't seem too right-wing either (his fondness for german/nazi bric-a-brac owed more to being an army brat whose folks were stationed in germany during the late fifties/early sixties).

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 07:56 (twenty-two years ago)

FWIW, Billy Ray Cyrus supported Gore (not Bush).

HOW did you acquire this information?

from this site:

Gore is pushing hard for voters such as Nelson to reconsider his candidacy in this final week of campaigning, saying a vote for Nader will only help elect Bush. He's already changed the mind of one country music star, Billy Ray Cyrus, who earlier this year wrote the Bush campaign's theme song, "We the People."

According to Salon.com, a spokesperson for Gore said Cyrus has asked Bush to stop using the song now that he's a Gore backer.

i knew that i wasn't hallucinating this (esp. since, unlike mr. sinker, i don't do billy ray's hair). billy ray rejected the dark side!

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)

and that should be willie nelson who is the naderite (not the early 90s hair-metal bunch nelson).

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't get how Destiny's Child is right wing - singing at a high profile well-paying gig doesn't exactly mean they are Republicans. I would probably guess that those girls are fairly apolitical, but perhaps favor conservative fiscal policies.

Bruce Springsteen is most certainly not a right wing guy. He's more of a left-leaning centrist.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The most conservative (not right wing) of them all is probably Robert Wyatt. How can you still be a marxist nowadays?

How asinine can you get? Let me guess - you're an American.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd love to see Ted Nugent and Stevie Wonder run against each other for the governorship of Michigan.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Vincent Gallo.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't get how Destiny's Child is right wing
I DO think their jelly is ready for the flat tax.

there's a better joke in there, but I ain't up to it today.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Willie's vote really mattered in Texas.

Gore should have encouraged the Greens to make their protest votes in hopeless states, instead of attacking them at every turn.

He ultimately would have built up goodwill with the Greens in general, maybe even convinced a few of them that he was decent enough to vote for in a state that mattered (say, Florida).

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

the other thread reminded me... Daniel Johnston!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 23 June 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
Mr T Experience frontman Doctor Frank has his own rubbish right-wing warblog online.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Ozzy?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Not a raving right winger, mind you, I just thought I heard that he supported Bush. I may be wrong.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
I'm not counting various country artists or classic rock acts who later underwent a religious conversion that probably would link them to the right.

James Brown is politically independent, or so he's said.

HOW COULD PEOPLE FORGET ALICE COOPER?!

Ian Curtis voted conservative.

Mark E. Smith is politically right on some issues (just look at the Classical and his feelings on the tokenism and conceit of multi-culturism "there is no culture is my brag", "this is the home of the vain"). I wouldn't be surprised if he voted Tory or made comments supporting them.

Paul Weller has said that music should be apolitical, but that was probably a cover for his Tory-love.

I'll break my second rule and put Van Morrison down.

Conservatism notoriously thrives in places featuring a bottom-line (military, business, etc), hence why liberals tend to run the arts.

Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

*As well as the intellectual class, as a social group

Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Old guard: Lulu, Lyndsey De Paul, Vince Hill, Cilla Black.

New wave: Busted.

Mark E. Smith has voted Conservative at least once; he mentioned it in an interview.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, i think he took a violent dislike to his labour county councillor.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I see from yesterday's Time Out that Adam Ant is a Tory (listed under a subsection "Tory Pop Stars" alongside Ian Curtis, Joan Armatrading, Leee John, Geri Halliwell and Gary Numan, although the latter two went over to Nu Labor).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems no mention of Tony Hadley yet. I thought (in spite of their image) Spandau Ballet used to be eager Labour supporters, but apparently that was just the Kemp brothers.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed, Tory Hadley has cheerfully confessed to voting that way.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think being conservative in general is incredibly horrible. I'd be more interested in which artists support Bush because THAT is horrible in so so many ways.

jmeister (jmeister), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Somebody downthread suggested Robert Wyatt was conservative for being a commie in this day and age. What rot! He' staunchly anti-establishment and believes in the good of the people. He's not one of these dogmatic lefties who still tries to defend Stalin. And he's quite funny about why he joined the communist party in the first place, explaining that the SWP was all about shouty young men, while the Communist party was much more polite and gentle. He's a total hero!

Stewart Smith (stew s), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Btw. regarding intellectuals, Britain is a bit difficult, as intellectuals tend to support the Liberal Democratic party. They are supposedly expected to be in the centre, between Labour and Tory, but in several controversial subjects, such as the Iraqi war, they are indeed to the left of New Labour.

And there are several artists supporting the Liberat Democrats this time too.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Shakin' Stevens used to play at Young Communist League rallies!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not just with the war that the Lib Dems are left of New Labour. They want to scrap the council tax (where you're taxed on the value of your home) and replace it with income tax. And they're prepared to actually say, yes, this will cost some people more, but then rich people pay proportionately less tax than the poor anyway, so deal with it.
The Scottish parliament has a Lab-Lib coalition. It was the Liberals who got tuition fees scrapped (well, sort of) and brought in free healthcare for the elderly, not Labour.
Now that New Labour has lurched to the centre, and centre right on some issues, where else could the Lib Dems go? I do know people who vote Lib Dem but are concerned about their move to the left, but fuck em, they can go vote New Labour.

Brian Eno sez vote Lib Dem!

The Tories never have much luck with pop stars. Didn't they try and use a Massive Attack tune a couple of years back, only for 3D to threaten legal action?

Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, that should say free CARE for the elderly. Everybody gets free healthcare thankfully.

Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously the Tories were unable to persuade Madonna to be their star turn.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

free healthcare!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Wish (sigh)

jmeister (jmeister), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it's an outrage that the world's richest country can't provide its population with free healthcare. Even the Tories wouldn't try and destroy the NHS. Well, not completely.

Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Charles Kennedy's indie approach to campaign and policies attract or repel the floating voter, viz. is the shambolic "what's-our-policy-again?" stance a relief from the processed corporate interchangeable policies offered by the Big Two or is it a case of well if he can't get his own policies together how does he expect to govern us?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, not unless they could get away with it. xpost.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"How can you still be a marxist nowadays?"

Um ... nowadays it's so fucking easy. Bush / corporate America is following an agenda straight out of the 19th century. Doing all the things Marx said capitalists wanted to do, and we all thought "c'mon, you're exagerating." Marx is *scarily* appropriate for the noughties.


phil jones (interstar), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Britain is a bit difficult, as intellectuals tend to support the Liberal Democratic party.

Errrrrrrrrrrrrr, what are you on about Geir?

Pradaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

Has it ever been any different? Substitute "Clinton/corporate America" and the analogy still works.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think anyone mentioned danni minogue yet.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The Spice Girls

Pradaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooops, Marcello mentioned them in the very first post!

Pradaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, three of the Spice Girls anyway, one of whom subsequently appeared in a New Labour party political broadcast despite not actually being registered to vote at the time.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know for sure, but I bet that Ashlee and Jessica Simpson voted for Bush, if they voted at all.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Fahrenheit 9/11 had that great clip of Britney giving props to Bush.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Though you wouldn't know it from his music which is all love songs, Pat DiNizio, lead singer of the Smithereens, ran an independent campaign for NJ Senator as a super-duper right wing conservative. His views were so far to the right he made Ted Nugent seem like George McGovern.

Thankfully, he got crushed. But of all right wing rock stars, he may be the farthest right based on his candidacy. The guy was like a complete nutjob.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Pat DiNizio, lead singer of the Smithereens, ran an independent campaign for NJ Senator as a super-duper right wing conservative. His views were so far to the right he made Ted Nugent seem like George McGovern.

Oh, that makes me want to cry. I'm not a huge fan in general, but "Blood and Roses" and "Behind the Wall of Sleep" are two of my favorite pop rock songs from the '80s, and now I won't be able to hear them without thinking about that.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I had to do a quick web search on DiNizio, and his interviews don't make him sound fascist. He was in the Reform Party and left it because he felt Buchanan was too divisive. He describes himself as centrist; it sounds like he's basically a populist or libertarian -- for example, he thinks social issues should go to a vote, and his big concern is about money in politics. There's an anti-censorship article on the front of his web page.

He does say he admires Alan Keyes, but he also says he admires Ralph Nader, so that balances it out a bit.

I probably wouldn't vote for the guy, but I don't think he's Ted Nugent, either. What did he say during the actual campaign that made him sound so far right-wing, kornrulez?

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

damien jurado leans right

katie hasty (katie, a princess), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
Watched the Ramones documentary over the weekend. Johnny Ramone - not only is he right wing but a weirdo and a sociopath on top of it. Joey was apparently very liberal and Dee Dee just came off too fucked up to care.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah there's a long thread about Johnny Ramone and his politics.

Although, that's not why it's a long thread, admittedly.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

But of all right wing rock stars, he may be the farthest right based on his candidacy.

That'd be Varg Vikernes.

Anyway, Paul Weller has been mentioned here several times, but according to a recent feature (in Mojo, I believe) Weller was never a Tory, he just claimed to have voted for Thatcher because his manager told him to ("Sex Pistols are anarchists and The Clash are left wing - be conservatives")

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

His manager is his dad. And they say kids vote the same way as their parents...

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

This thread reminds me of IMDB boards where every other question about a young actor (though young actresses usually actresses get this treatment the most) is, "Is ______ a Christian?" followed with obscene amounts of speculation, sourceless interviews, and sadness and fanbase loss when the truth is finally discovered.

His manager is his dad. And they say kids vote the same way as their parents...

I remember reading him talking about his father's devout atheism in MOJO. Again, how I know this...

Cunga, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

surprised nobody mentioned Kid Rock back in the fray...

henry s, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

Admittedly not very exciting, but waped tour-ish bands Guttermouth and Avenged Sevenfold are proudly right-wing. I think the Vandals might be too.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

(ahem) "WARPED"

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

The Vandals did (maybe still do) the whole 'entertain the troops' circuit, but then so did Rollins, poss. the same ones in fact

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 08:43 (eighteen years ago)

Since when does "entertaining the troops" make you right wing?

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

"Anyway, Paul Weller has been mentioned here several times, but according to a recent feature (in Mojo, I believe) Weller was never a Tory...."

Well, he certainly wasn't always a Tory: remember Red Wedge?

".... he just claimed to have voted for Thatcher because his manager told him to ("Sex Pistols are anarchists and The Clash are left wing - be conservatives")"

"His manager is his dad. And they say kids vote the same way as their parents..."

Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

(Where did the last line of my last post go?)

".... And they say kids vote the same way as their parents..."

I don't know about anyone else here, but I can say with absolute cast-iron certainty that I have never voted the same way as my parents.

Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

Since when does "entertaining the troops" make you right wing?

Was my point re: Rollins

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

any right-wing rappers out there?

henry s, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

This thread reminds me of IMDB boards where every other question about a young actor (though young actresses usually actresses get this treatment the most) is, "Is ______ a Christian?" followed with obscene amounts of speculation, sourceless interviews, and sadness and fanbase loss when the truth is finally discovered.

Just out of curiosity, which answer tends to cause sadness? I'd do the research but I am deathly afraid of the free-floating Stupid on the IMDB boards and they changed it a while back so you have to register to even read them...

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Is there a lolcat for "yes, I are a christian" ?

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

Billy Zoom is conservative and Christian.

dad a, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm there was this guy called Ian Stewart who used to sing in a band called Skrewdriver; I always had the impression he was a tad to the right.

And who could forget Cliff Richard?? Evil Evil Evil.

Diablo_Rising, Friday, 20 July 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

Cliff Richard is first and foremost a very Christian conservative guy, isn't he?

Which, if he was American, would probably make him politically conservative as well. But things aren't quite as easy in Europe.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 20 July 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

Good lord -- "I voted for who my manager told me to" is surely ten million times more embarrassing than just admitting that you were a fucking Tory, isn't it?

nabisco, Friday, 20 July 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

Just out of curiosity, which answer tends to cause sadness? I'd do the research but I am deathly afraid of the free-floating Stupid on the IMDB boards and they changed it a while back so you have to register to even read them...'

Usually some sadness is always involved. Sadness from men if a gorgeous actress won't do nudity or raunchy material because of some moral code and also disappointment is common (seemingly from tweenage girls) if a young actor/actress that they look up to is revealed to not be a Christian. It's funny how the reasons for disappointment seem to be stem from mirror opposite hopes!

Cunga, Saturday, 21 July 2007 06:29 (eighteen years ago)

any right-wing rappers out there?

-- henry s, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:04 PM

i wouldn't be surprised if fiddy votes repub.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 21 July 2007 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and Gloria Estefan's comments on the Elian Gonzalez case seem to indicate she's somewhere to the right of sanity.

her dad was one of batista's thugs in cuba. her family was forced to flee after the revolution.

Lawrence the Looter, Saturday, 21 July 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

pete townshend, not long after 9/11: see me, hear me, touch me...bomb me?

Lawrence the Looter, Saturday, 21 July 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

"I voted for who my manager told me to" is surely ten million times more embarrassing than just admitting that you were a fucking Tory, isn't it?

The way I interpreted him, they didn't neccessarily vote for Tory.

In fact, weren't The Style Council actually part of the Red Wedge movement a few years later?

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 July 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, they were. Check this link:
http://www.braggtopia.com/musicxchange/1986-03-21-2-Tracks.htm

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Jay Z and Nas are black republicans

filthy dylan, Saturday, 21 July 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Were they Republicans before the $$$$$ started coming into their accounts too?

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 July 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

eazy-e got a bunch of shit for donating money to attend a repub. fundraiser and attend dinner at the white house when bush I was prez.

M@tt He1ges0n, Saturday, 21 July 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Re: Townshend: I'm a liberal and I wanted to wipe the Taliban and any of its supporters out after 9/11. I have no idea what that has to do with beign "right wing".

Bill Magill, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

G-Unit: The Oversized Blackshirts Of A New Proto-Fascism

mayhaps, Monday, 23 July 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

Things were a bit weird for the first couple of months after 911. But from the Iraqi war onwards, things have been normalized again, and those who stood briefly behind Bush against terrorism were once again his critics.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 July 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

anybody else remember when Sting said "when you're as rich as I am, you don't have to be political"?

henry s, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

I can not believe nobody has brought up Alice Cooper.

filthy dylan, Monday, 23 July 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)


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