*´¯`*.¸¸.*´¯`* Music went to shit in the 00's *´¯`*.¸¸.*´¯`*

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/01/article-2108664-11FCB218000005DC-905_468x338.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48&list=PL95U1386wtoKVhw-wCk0d4V9bD0bNypxC&index=200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48

p4k crew doesn't want to take this poll seriously because 00 love?
pathetic

keep it to your own thread

"p4k crew"

a few songs made it into the top 40 every week in the 80s and 90s, but so many more did in the 00s >:(

"p4k crew"

― miss me belial (crüt), Monday, December 28, 2015 9:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

music got schlonged in the 00s

voted YES

Answer depends on your definition of "Music," "shit," "00's," "stuff," "still," and "undecided."

Oh hey cool

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6WWftUvr0rM/Uv0ba-oX-wI/AAAAAAAAGCk/-Nir1_954gQ/s1600/11.jpg

bridget otm

Music has never went shit, the one saying this just got old.

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The September 11 attacks in the United States in 2001 had an important impact on broadcast and venue entertainment businesses, prompting cancellations, postponements, and changes in content. In the United States and the United Kingdom, planned television screenings of films and fictional programs where terrorism, plane crashes, bombs, or other related disaster were the primary subject were postponed or cancelled.

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Like television, almost all radio stations across the United States put a halt on all programs and commercials to simulcast affiliated news coverage of the attacks from ABC News Radio and CBS Radio News, or taking an audio simulcast of a television news operation, be it local or national, while national morning shows hosted by personalities such as Rick Dees or Howard Stern focused on providing both information about the attacks and call-in forums for listeners to express sympathies. Local New York all-news radio operations like WINS and WCBS, along with Washington's WTOP carried locally-based coverage that was simulcast on those sister FM stations without operations destroyed at the World Trade Center as AM operations with transmissions on the outskirts of metropolitan areas were unaffected outside of security concerns for studio facilities.
XM Radio, a subscription-based satellite radio service headquartered in Washington, D.C., was scheduled to launch on September 12, 2001. As a direct result of the attacks, the launch was delayed until September 25, when the service debuted on a limited basis in San Diego and Dallas.[citation needed]
Program directors from a number of radio stations throughout the US retooled their playlists in response to the attacks. Common changes included the heavy rotation of songs such as "God Bless the USA" by Lee Greenwood and Whitney Houston's rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner" from Super Bowl XXV. Meanwhile, songs such as U2's "Sunday Bloody Sunday" and Dave Matthews Band's "Crash Into Me" were commonly deleted. Additionally, Clear Channel (now known as iHeartMedia) came under scrutiny for distributing a list of 150 potentially sensitive songs that were not recommended for broadcast immediately after the attacks.[30]
German heavy metal band Rammstein was to debut their video for the song "Ich Will" which depicted scenes of one band member dressed as a suicide bomber. After the attacks, the video was removed from television airplay before it premiered.
Christian metal band P.O.D. released their album Satellite that day, which spiked sales for the album because of its uplifting message. Their single "Alive" became the anthem of the year.
New Zealand rock band Shihad changed their name to Pacifier in response to American audiences comparing "Shihad" with "Jihad." They have since resumed using their original name.
According to Arrogant Worms band member Trevor Strong, the song "Worst Seat on the Plane" was never performed live due to Idiot Road, the album it was featured on, being released on September 18, 2001, one week after the terrorist attacks.[31]
American alternative rock band Jimmy Eat World voluntarily changed the name of their now platinum certified fourth studio release Bleed American, which was released on July 18, 2001, out of concern that the title may be misinterpreted. The album was re-released as the eponymous Jimmy Eat World. In addition, the title track was renamed "Salt Sweat Sugar." In 2008, a deluxe version of the album was released, reverting both the album and song to their original Bleed American title.
American pop-punk band blink 182 re-filmed the video for their song "Stay Together for the Kids." The original video was filmed on September 10–11 and depicted the band playing in an abandoned house which, during the course of the video, was struck repeatedly by a wrecking ball and eventually destroyed. The attacks occurred following the wrapping of filming. Both the band and director Samuel Bayer felt that the images portrayed in the video were too similar to the attacks on the World Trade Center and opted to re-shoot the video. The original video for the song is available on some of the band's DVD releases as well as on YouTube.
American rock band Thirty Seconds to Mars reshot the cover art for their setlf-titled debut album that originally featured a fighter pilot ejecting from an exploding plane. The band explained that they never saw it as a violent image, but felt that it was inappropriate in the wake of the events.
Michael Jackson, along with other musicians, performed the songs "What More Can I Give" and "Man in the Mirror" at the United We Stand benefit concert held at the RFK Memorial Stadium on October 21, 2001, as a tribute to the victims of the 9/11 attacks.
The Hungarian composer Robert Gulya, who was living in the USA from 2000 to 2002, started to work on a guitar concerto in autumn 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks. Gulya chose a theme for the concerto's first movement,[32] which reminds of the terror attacks.[33] The world premiere of this concerto was filmed and released on the DVD Live in Budapest by the Austria guitarist Johanna Beisteiner.
Ben Folds was giving an interview about his album "Rockin' the Suburbs" (released on September 11) but was cut short, due to the plane crashes.
The song "New York City Cops" was replaced with "When it Started" on the U.S. version of The Strokes' debut album Is This It.
Dream Theater's Live Album Live Scenes from New York, released on September 11, 2001, had an album cover that depicted the skyline of New York City in flames. The album was recalled and later re-released, with a different cover.
English rock band Bush changed the name of the lead single off their 2001 album Golden State from "Speed Kills" to "The People That We Love". Also changed was the original cover art for the album, which featured a commercial airplane.[34]
The tribute concert Come Together: A Night for John Lennon's Words and Music, a fundraiser for the Robin Hood Foundation dedicated to the music of John Lennon, took place in early October 2001 in New York. Due to its timing, much of the concert also became a tribute to the city of New York and particularly its emergency services.
Singer Madonna postponed a concert performance in Los Angeles, California.
Rock band Aerosmith canceled three shows originally scheduled for September 11th, 13th, and 15th, all on the Eastern Seaboard, during their Just Push Play Tour. They resumed their tour on September 17 in Atlanta.
The San Francisco Symphony continued with a previously planned program of Mahler's 6th Symphony, the "Tragic," on September 12–15. The subsequent recording was highly acclaimed and garnered the 2003 Grammy Award for Best Orchestral Performance.[35]
Janet Jackson postponed a concert in Tampa, Florida, scheduled for the day. She also canceled the entire European leg of her All for You Tour due to travel concerns after the attacks.
Digital cable channel MTVX, which showed mainly hard rock and heavy metal music videos, was replaced on May 1, 2002 with the hip hop-based MTV Jams, due to not only hip hop's growing mainstream presence, but the editing of rock radio station playlists or complete change in format to them post-9/11 to remove aggressive and violent songs that were inappropriate for play and a plunge in viewer requests for the network. A good number of radio stations switched to more neutral classic rock or adult album alternative formats in the aftermath.
Stations began to start all-Christmas music formats and playlists through Christmas Day earlier (usually between Halloween and Thanksgiving) to provide a respite to listeners who looked for more calming dial choices, a trend that continues to the present day.
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Unfortunately its going to get worse

In the past there was a very large amount of antagonistic painful and jabbing sounds and they emanated from most public places, but as time went on more and more unthinking people made more and more of these piercing serentity destroyers, and the reach of devices to play them grew ever wider. These bombs are now almost everywhere, in places where there should be silence, like buses, libraries and Asda. But it gets worse, theses antagonistic bombs, many of them are indestructible, and can destroy a moments bucolic joy in a moment. 'i wish it could be christmas every day', its not going away, these things are indestructible. and more and more of these are being made, its becoming almost impossible to move as more and more of these things pollute the environment and destroy mental equilibrium. And no one does anything about it, because theyve been battered into submission, 'you used to call me on your cell phone' one hundred times a day, its just going to get worse, we need to rise up and take away the speakers but they are bolted in and now people carry them around with them everywhere i see no end in sight

Overall the 00s were indeed a lot worse than the 70s, 80s and 90s, but I really like grime and early dubstep so I can't quite bring myself to vote yes

00s were better than this decade

When I am old and grey
― Coombesbat 18 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 15:40 (5 hours ago)

As a Yeats disciple that's the first of these memes that positively offended me, thank you very much.

Fucking Gen X

my parents are okay with listening to "today's hits" type radio stations. those stations are torture

"Music" = weighted more towards charted music (like top 40) as that is more representative of a decade's music
"shit" = bad
"00's" = 2000's
"still likable, generally speaking" = flipping through your radio stations, you still had a decent chance of catching a good 90's song during the 90's. the chance of catching a good 00's song in the 00's was greatly reduced

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/994190_10100156768506689_1759209050887890946_n_zpsfugzwsjr.jpg

Hey we get it, what are you, the Twice-ler? xp

See when a thread like this gets lots of replies

xp

if someone asks to hear freebird they shouldn't complain when the get what they ask for

There is always going to be good music if you know where to find it, probably true. But pop music has taken a huge downward turn. I can't really think of many fun or respected one-hit wonders or weird pop songs that crossed over in the 00's, whereas there was so much of that in the earlier decades. A song was either a huge hit and over-saturated or it was viral trash everyone forgot about in a week.

If someone were to put together a list of top 10 one hit wonders and cherished 00s pop songs that could stand alongside any bargain bin compilation from the 70s/80s/etc. then I would cede music probably didn't really go to shit.

Oh-whoa-oh-whoa-oh

And this turd you cannot change...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H8XqA7WyLI

I could pretty easily and quickly throw together a 2000s one-hit-wonders mix that I would personally enjoy, but if I actually like music from the 2000s and you don't then it would probably be a huge waste of my time.

yeah but what's that to us

I'm fine w music from the 2000s. I like a lot of it. Just overall, it doesn't compare. I guess there's that whistling "Young Folks" song?

music may have gone to shit in the 90s but using mental illness as a crutch for one's bad personality / opinions will never go out of style.

i guess we haven't done this in a while huh

music went to shit in the 00s but, finding them occupied, used a nearby thread instead

xp
I don't think we ever polled this

Is Music Today Better or Worse Than Ever ? <---slight variant

https://cleorecs.com/store/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/6793-80s-Cover-Sheet.jpg

Modern trash is nowhere near this cool.

http://www.music-bazaar.com/album-images/vol14/667/667859/2515741-big/Number-1-Hits-From-The-90s-CD1-cover.jpg

the '00s were in retrospect my least favorite music decade. the '10s have been a lot better imo. but i don't think music necessarily went to shit.

generally enjoyable pop songs in the 80s
generally enjoyable rock songs in the 90s
neither in the 00s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFCv86Olk8E

Next to James Brown throwing fireballs Street Fighter II-style at M.C. Hammer I guess any other decade has it tough. Is there anything this crazy and cool from the 2000s? Kanye's stuff? I find it a little predictable and unfun.

theory: difficult to focus on music in the 00s when everyone had a real 'whodunnit?' on their hands

there were no good rock songs in the 90s

"Trapped in the Closet" is amazing and visionary, but those scandals...

sorry, "enjoyable"

hip-hop 1upmanship reached its apex in the 90s resulting in less fun stuff like
checklist
be tough
be real
I'm the best
love me some t'n'a
fatter beats

outkast often broke the mold though.. and they are more representative of the 00's than a bunch of the lesser acts

*like

*00's

fuck typos

go on...

Outkast's "Stankonia" released in 2000, I think of it as a 90s record. It was recorded largely in 1999. They went on to much greater commercial success than they had in the 90s, but artistically there has definitely been a drop off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw

This song may be some kind of key to this whole debate.

Are you guys thinking what Im thinking?

Don't get me wrong I love that album, and I even like the weird drum n bass "My Favorite Things". But it's kind of experimental. I feel like this and things like "Roses" are _just_ on the side of being grating and grotesque, more of a cubist painting than a pop song.

at some point - probably in the 00's - "artistic" became a bad thing.
sounds like we popped some purple pills on the other hand - that's still dignified because "shit I'm for real"

the '10s are gonna keep getting better, and the 00's worse in retrospect.

there was so much good music this year that i really can't take the whining from people who just flipped through a pitchfork list

go find it!

I can't really think of many fun or respected one-hit wonders or weird pop songs that crossed over in the 00's

Hey Ya? Any of the singles off of Kanye's debut? Harder Better Faster Stronger? Float On? Get Ur Freak On? There were great pop songs and forward thinking singles. But the quantity has surely diminished.

I think what 00's lacked (and we still lack) is a cohesive identity of sound and musical/social movement associated with it and this is largely because of the iPod and the internet democratizing music and making it easier for people to find less "pop" things to listen to and harder for us to collectively latch on to something. As a result the music that does hit the charts much more vanilla, with fewer outliers of quality and less stylistic experimentalism hitting the mainstream each year. How many people listen to actual radio stations these days? Whenever I'm in the car or at home I'm playing something I already own or a playlist curated by someone I already know.

But out in the fringes there's amazing and brilliant shit, and it seems electronic music is the new frontier with micro-genres and experimentalism there becoming the norm. Aphex Twin won a grammy for chrissakes. With the internet you no longer have a localized scene defining a sound geographically, as now people can latch onto a style, follow it, and collaborate online. Unfortunately, this echo chamber leads to a kind of mass isolation of taste among many music fans (like it has politically in social media), who might normally be exposed to new styles or genres if they had consumed music as in the past. As a result, rock and hip hop seem to have become less forward thinking collectively and by losing their ability to captivate large audiences in unison like they used to, they've become more conservative to keep the fans they still have. It truly is a wonderful moment when something like Random Access Memories or To Pimp a Butterfly drops these days and captivates the world. These album release "events" would have been more commonplace 20 years ago.

Overall I voted NO because I define "music" as all music, not just pop radio/top 40 music.

maybe I should of been more clear on the definition of music that represents the decades

why did people have to overthink this

perhaps you under-thought it

nope. they overthink

I am interested in octo's opinion on why top40 charts are vanilla

I used to think that it took a vanilla person to appreciate all the bland hit makers but I'm sure it's more complicated than that.

~~~

I always thought 'float on' sounded like Modest Mouse going commercial. maybe my prior MM experience made it harder to see 'float on' weird song

Move on

Stop

Aphex Twin won a grammy for chrissakes

Gen X rocks!!

But it's still Aphex Twin. I mean, Rokysopp are Gen Xers and it was their swan song, why not give it to them?

Also for some reason I like stirring the pot in these obvious troll threads. I should stop

I think top-40 pop started to go to shit in the '00s, but there was still loads of incredible stuff if you ventured even slightly from the mainstream

i think top-40 pop got really good in the 00's but there was still loads of incredible horseshit if you ventured even slightly from the mainstream

all music before the year 2000 was fucking shit

all music after guru josh was fucking shit

wait, Guru Josh died? :(

can only be a matter of days for Gaz now

^ bummer to post in the week the meme went from non-sequituring Coombes tweets to reviving threads about ILX's gaz

this isn't a troll thread but I guess you could make the case that this is a "people with differing opinions make others feel uneasy thread"

top 40 pop is where 00's sucked the most

Music went to shit in the 00's
But the 00's was locked
so music had to find a bathroom.

excuse me I already made that joke >:(

Noooooooooooooooo!

Forget it Jag, it's Socktown

P4k crew let's ride

Overexposure to challenging opinions is causing me to feel a growing sense of unease. Preparing for my mind to be blown in 3...2...1....

this is actually a troll thread! (unless you already new that. then it isn't!)

change your name and come back with a new schtick dude, this isn't working

i don't say that to be mean. i just don't think you're going to find what you're looking for here with these sorts of tactics

no. animal collective ruled the decade

I like the shooting star thingy in the thread title.

Treeshoop, I would be surprised if you knew what I was looking for, as I am unaware that I'm looking for something. Also, I'm wondering what my current shtick is and why it isn't working. It will be easier to improve once I know what it is and why I should improve it.

Your current schtick, to me, seems to be about making bad posts and then disavowing them by saying you were trolling, or something. I guess I don't know what you're looking for. If it's negative attention kiu but if you want this to be a place where you can talk about things that interest you maybe cool it with the "provocateur" pose

Which post in this thread was bad and why was it bad?

besides bad spelling and grammar

and typos

dude

why the fuck did i bookmark this

I'm curious because we must have different standards for quality if I don't know which post is bad

why do people stop to look at car crashes?

xp

I think your posts could be more specific about what you like and don't like. You're making generalizations about pretty large swathes of music.

I'm disengaging, once-ler. Peace&love

For instance, when I see the joke about "music had to find a bathroom" I think pun-type humor is dumb as shit. But someone out there thinks "ha ha I'm funny!" and knowing ILX, someone else will agree that was funny. Still a bad post imo

xp reposts are bad posts mattresslessness

otm

I think I made generalizations about big swaths of music because that is how I think. I like to sum up a decade's music by what was prominent and what would be featured on a condensed, one-hour documentary that takes a look back on the biggest trends and stars that made an impact. That's the way a decade is remembered by the populous ; not as a decade long thought but as one thought bubble that can be described in simple terms like "it sucked"

mattresslessness just realized his post actually did kind of suck so he made up for it by repeating the same post to make it look like he meant to be bad on purpose

and if this wasn't a troll thread before, it is now.
flag post please

lorax my first ever suggest ban was on mattresslessness for starting 'captain lorax suggest ban drive'

now the wheel has come full circle

*´¯`*.¸¸.*´¯`*´¯`*.¸¸.*´¯`*

fuck off with that 9/11 debra nonsense

uh, only ban drive I can remember was to bring back dmac, and it worked. you're welcome.

thank you mods.
I have no problems with anyone liking music from 00's.
One day when I marry someone, the odds of them liking most of my music and vice versa are probably really low.

I understand why people took this poll as "my personal music decade" rather than "the music that most represents the decade" because I wasn't clear on my intentions

The results were going to be dumb anyway. This is just another dumb ILX poll

good to work on improving things

let it be known that i was not otming lorax

There is no bad music decade, but it's an inarguable scientific fact that music has been on a slow and admittedly oft-impercebible decline since the mid-'70s. I get that people may disagree, but it's just science, really.

'impercebible'?! I need to change out my contacts, for serious.

flappy bird's post sure improved

music got better in the 00's

electroclash was when i started listening to electronic pop again.
yes, there was a lot of crap, but the post electroclash influenced pop that hit the charts was often brilliant.
also, hello girls aloud.
one of the best pop bands ever.
so, i do not agree with the original premise of the thread.

Billboard Hot 100 New Entries Poll Winners: 2001

sly stone perfected music in 1971

following the intended premise of this thread, no one knows what the hell electroclash or girls aloud is - unless it's different in the UK

pretty sure that a few britishers know who girls aloud are

The group was also named the United Kingdom's biggest selling girl group of the 21st century, with over 4.3 million singles sales and 4 million albums sold in the UK alone.

why should ILM confine its discussions to artists once-ler has heard of anyway?

stuff "counts" even if you haven't heard of it. if a tree falls in a forest but you, personall, aren't there to hear it, it still makes a sound.

following the intended premise of this thread, no one knows what the hell electroclash or girls aloud is - unless it's different in the UK

strangest post on ILM ever.

:D:D:D

I should of guessed it was are friend Lorax

how do these posts prove such a thing !!?

Iirc we polled his list of best albums of the 2000s didn't we?

ahh, clearly i was too busy listening to a Tiga mixtape to notice that thread.

Here it is

CaptainLorax wants you to listen to his favorite albums of the 00's Poll

Sorry for being antagonistic, I think I just need to block poll threads for a little while

oh the antagony of it all

why should ILM confine its discussions to artists once-ler has heard of anyway?

― starkiller based god (Treeship)

you tell me

I would add 'Kate Bush - Aerial' to my list of fav albums of the 00's

death in june fan just thinking critically baout music

that's the only DiJ album I've been able to put up with iirc

Heard someone was dissing pun-style humour round here, you boys wouldn't know anything about that now would you

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