rolling industry plant thread 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv6ShEhYgo8

happy new year goons

so boosie released the first album of the year. It's cool apart from the last song.

should have been rolling dab, goon thread takes another L

idk i'm glad last years thread wasn't called 'whip nae nae' or whatever

I'll be doing this VERY differently this year, but here's where you can keep up with a playlist this year
ILM's Rolling Hip Hop Thread 2016

so boosie released the first album of the year. It's cool apart from the last song.

― ANU (sisilafami), Friday, January 1, 2016 6:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's wrong with the last song? Touch Down 2 Cause Hell ended w/ a piano ballad too, but aside from the diminishing returns of doing that twice i think both songs are pretty affecting.

it sounds almost like he can't wait to die so real gangstas are gonna cry at his funeral. i don't like that sentiment.

After certain poignant stanzas and just when I am deeply moved he chills me [. . .] and in a passage of great eloquence rejoices that human life must pass. I was about to put his poem among my sacred books, but I cannot now, for I do not believe him.

i like this stitches song https://soundcloud.com/str8kashtmi/stitches-feat-str8kash-100-million

https://www.instagram.com/p/BADDe9Wp7oH/

40 days is long :(

I think unconditional thug might be my favorite a-wax release now even if thug deluxe is more of a cohesive album overall.

i played the hell outta the first half of Everlasting Money at the end of the year, it's great. I should probably spend more time exploring a-wax's catalogue.

oh yeah unconditional thug, conceptz & contradictionz & jr high 2 the penn vol. 2 are my fav's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDZoFnfyquE
no lie, i would like to hear KRS's Billboard Top 10 dis track for 2015

liking this new Allan Kingdom record:
https://soundcloud.com/allankingdom/sets/northern-lights

I feel like 1wayfrank is on the verge of figuring something out, his songwriting is becoming tighter and tighter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOFYtl-L2fc

patman -lit / from martorialist end of last yr list, is fire

smfh thats from my year end list, i posted it in the rolling thread & i put martorialist onto it

i hope you're happy johnny crunch, you made him cry

luv it thx sry missed it in the rolling thread, mods pls edit my post and somehow give cred pts to d40

apology accepted, just try to be more careful next time, this is v important

Maybe thats why no one posts any more. No one can remember the origin or who cosigned what and who put who on what song.

no one clicks on teh videos when they get posted -_-

I agree that Patman is great.

Thanks ANU for the Jr high 2 the penn vol. 2 recommendation.

I'm not sure how much of the content is on other releases but the recent J Dilla - Dillatronic is so good.

one else here into chris crack https://soundcloud.com/newdealcrew/chris-crack-bullet-proof-platinum-dolphin-ft-cutta

is anyone gonna bother having "Anticipate Talib Kweli's BLACKSTAR" for a dn or nah

https://soundcloud.com/empire/colonel-loud-california-remix-feat-too-short-snoop-dogg-ricco-barrino

^ west coast remix of the colonel loud track from last year, e40 should've been on this.

love that

sounding like 'players holiday' now

Is it safe to say that ATL has finally reached its Papoose era? I love Thug and Future and enjoy Migos but outside of those guys, who all came up in the Gucci era, it's pretty much a desert. I blame Gucci going to prison for all of this - he was obv ATL's main ear for talent.

every time people say that for the last decade it looks like comical wishful thinking a year later

I know. I guess I'm mostly trying to get you guys to recommend me some good non-futurethug ATL stuff. Very little of it is blowing me away these days. Kodak Black is cool, but I'm hardly enthusiastic.

(I know he's from Florida btw)

*opens livemixtapes.com*
http://i.giphy.com/QL4wsxSexuR7q.gif
*closes tab*

what's wrong, you don't wanna SPEND MONEY WITH CASIIIINO?

skooly, bankroll fresh, cash out, johnny cinco are doing cool things and def not duplicating thufugos.

Semi-cool things.

I listened to the Casino tape btw. It's tolerable but I'll never play it again. I'd call him the Memph Bleek to Future's Jay if it didn't feel like a terrible insult to Bleek.

http://www.audiomack.com/song/trapdaily/serious

This thug!

ha that ending

every time people say that for the last decade it looks like comical wishful thinking a year later

― some dude, Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:34 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really? i count two actually-great new acts in the last four years from atl

skooly, bankroll fresh, cash out, johnny cinco are doing cool things and def not duplicating thufugos.

― ANU (sisilafami), Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:09 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

zzz

fuck it, haven't done this in awhile, heres some rap songs i like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdQywUjRCiY

k-camp "wcw"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfXlBY3Ryz4

La4ss "juug talk"

u dont like jonny cinco deej?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YDTMrCW3Q

Rocaine - Rubberbands (Chicken Chicken)

johnny cinco is fine, but i don't think he substantially better than rappers from the bay or chi or even nyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw-IfoBHzqc

heres an actual ATL song I liked last year not by future or thug ...

jose guapo "run it up" w/ takeoff and yfn lucci

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzc3Rvov6sw

Babyface Ray - Heatwave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_7goR4smPE

lil tae feat. mozzy 'my illa' (whole lil tae album is dope actually)

Famous Dex - Oh Man God Damn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYrvazpfoZ4

it's a 'march madness' bite obv but i dig it

metro boomin played that jose guapo track on drake's radio show a while back, very good song

Chi Hoover - Adderall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRWs6BH5rjA

Phresher feat. Desiigner "on the low"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDVJOFMrMkE

s/o deej for railing against the new generation of ATL rappers than starting his youtube dump with a k camp song

all joking aside, k camp is actually instructive in that he's not really an auteur in any sense, instead he's a pop rapper whose audience is "real people" and not internet tastemakers, as such he doesn't really get much play in these sorts of discussions. whereas writers are trying to get the first shot at attaching their personal brands to bankroll fresh (no shots @ sisilafami) or which guy is suddenly got a bunch of 808 mafia beats on his mixtape.

future aside "comfortable" was prob one of the 3 best songs to come out of ATL last year

K Camp's album was pretty good for a generic major label album. i kinda feel like it was him, not Future or whoever people say, that really got their lunch eaten by Fetty Wap in 2015.

hes kind of personality free which might be part of his problem

i dont really think of him as an 'atl rapper' though

the new bankroll fresh tape is pretty good, way better than overrated ass tape w/ "hot boy" on it. but still just ... alright. hes not substantially better than rappers in any other region?

Mike E "It's A Shame"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT99s1nQS0g

ive shown enough of my cards for now lol

One more:

Ty da Kid feat. Chey Dolla - By the Tenth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEs5KdraQVM

ATL, STL, Detroit, ATL, Detroit, Sacramento, Chicago, Chicago, NYC, Indianapolis, Akron

i basically isolate 2-3 thug songs at a time and listen to them a lot, at least since 'barter vi'.... dont much like the slime season tapes on the whole

"Pull Up On a Kid" is my favorite rn:
https://soundcloud.com/noula54/12-pull-up-on-a-kid

That said I also like this collab w/ R&B singer B Smyth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV9pJlO1Oik

Keef has had a few jams lately, the big ones this year were bouncin and bih and black ops 3 but my personal fav (which has the craziest zaytoven beat) is "check it out": https://soundcloud.com/chiefkeefggt/chief-keef-check-it-out-prod-by-zaytoven-leak

i guess i've neglected to mention 1wayfrank's "traffic" which is fire imo https://soundcloud.com/1wayfrank/traffic-prod-by-beatpluggtwo

thx for the trax

Yeah, will check soon. I like K Camp but his album was pretty uneventful.

Vic Spencer / Chris crack is my most anticipated project this year

https://soundcloud.com/vicspencer/cs-supernatural

How do I throw up the old head bat signal....where's h3lg3son

Pull Up On A Kid is great, reminds me a little of "Peacoat"

Vic Spencer stuff ended up being some of my favorite last year. This sounds good. Really liked a few others deej posted as well.

Kcamp - Comfortable was one of my favourite songs from last year

for sure. like where did he get off suddenly singing that nice, it's outrageous

whole's song as if fabolous and tamia came out of the teleporter spliced together

What y'all think about Montana of 300? Dude can flow and he's got a massive youtube following.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVQYg7JD8ss

that one was a bad example, too sing-songy not enough raps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZamRD9LRZWE

'ice cream truck' still his best song imo

really promising but i feel like he could either become a major player, or tech n9ne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADV94hSMKHw

islah is good

Yeah I think so too. Pretty much the ideal of what I was looking for from him

this is pure regionalism on my part but i take a lot of pleasure in his inclusive shoutouts to the darkest recesses of louisiana--"put work in ponchatoula and springfield," "in alexandria it ain't nothin to get it gone," etc

this is the strangest strangest thing
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/01/28/martin-shkreli-ghostface-killah-threat/

wow

and yeah this Gates is goood

HOW is this new 2 Chainz EP so good

Because he never really lost it even though he lost the spotlight for a bit?

yeah he's pretty consistent, for better and for worse. brevity suits him, though, Trapavelli Tre probably would've been as enjoyable if you shaved it down to 6 songs.

It's not about "losing it" w him, just that he sets expectations at a pretty basic level. These are really good songs, though

So what's the goon consensus on the latest hyped rapper lil yachty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcKIIClndvw

few million plays on his soundcloud for "1Night"; cosigns from Ian Connor, A$AP Mob, Chief Keef, and—most recently—Kylie Jenner.

definitely sounds like post-keef warbling autotune music, minus the more mainstream aspects of keef's appeal, heavier on the bedroom syrup introvert parts

illroots just twitpic'd a photo of him in the studio with tyler, rocky, and madeintyo

cosigns from Ian Connor

im immediately suspicious!

haha

I'll have to check that but I Feel Like Cappin off that 2chainz is a blast.

whole 2 chainz ep is great front to back

"1 night" went viral and inspired all kinds of memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdIdAv47ss8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_Mb7xU-UE

this is def either an "i'm old" moment or a "lol, memes" moment

i feel like there are tons of kids doing this style but its not clear to me what about his shit stands out exactly

the new meek shit is extra tight IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WwokOgwEkQ

2 Chainz EP is really tight, the first song is the best but yeah they're all good. He's a bit more subdued on it and he doesn't rely on punchlies as much (though they're still there obv)

Who was that weird kid from Sweden or whatever? Reminds me of that

Also Meek's generally played himself during this beef but "War Pain" is pretty hype

his whole new EP is good

i didn't think the 2 chainz ep sounded that good, his writing has def dropped off

hes almost certainly got a ghostwriter imo

Who are the big ghostwriters these days?

i know Key! did a bunch of stuff for people

there are lots of dudes tho

I appreciate that Meek specifically disses "Hotline Bling" in his song

fat mankey can barely write his own verses and he gets paid to write for other people?

Who are the big ghostwriters these days?

― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

King Mez wrote most of the lyrics on Compton I think, not sure if he's done other stuff

fat mankey can barely write his own verses and he gets paid to write for other people?

― some dude, Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont really get much from his solo material but in what way is he 'barely' writing verses?

New Raz Simone tape is really good. Apparently he's signed to 300 now.

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/raz-simone-trap-spirituals-new-mixtape.116249.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylMUmhS-JQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JueqAkoyaGA

Bumped into this today; somehow missed it until today. Very fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEE_zD_SVXM

want to reiterate that this album is amazing. wish it would earn 1/10th the interest of a half assed future mixtape but w/e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXuVKQHdmeY

dig myself some albee al even if his best songs are remixes of older shit

but this new one w/ pnb rock is dope
https://soundcloud.com/albeeal201/better-way-ft-pnb-rock

^^ ulysses, nice find. I love all the 00s bay area stuff that was basically some looped bars of a classic electro track (yeah I know that one's kraftwerk but whatever), would make a sweet playlist actually. Mac Dre/Mac Mall - Dredio is the first one that comes to mind.

playlist is up to date.

Rolling ILM Hip Hop Thread 2016 Spotify Playlist

for grim NY street shit been digging Griselda Records/Fashion Rebels (Conway, Westside Gunn, producer Daringer), their twitter bios say Atlanta and now in Buffalo NY for some reason...somewhat down with Roc Marci I think?

Thought he had a stroke or something but I guess Conway got shot in the head and lived, crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUTD9ok997k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmjbwU6L4HI

oh that 2nd one is good.

the kevin gates album is really good

i swear deej was repping it itt?

"thought i heard", "hard for", "the truth", "ain't too hard" >>>

yeah it's good we were just talking abt it before the break

this 2 Chainz is so much fun

more rap EPs please!

Started a Kevin Gates thread

xp- average mixtape length going from >20 tracks to about 10 has been one of the best developments in rap the past couple years (what are the releases that set off this trend? was it future?) but yeah a lot of rappers that aren't high priority would get way more spins from me if they cut it even shorter

another new Boosie, sounds fucking great

http://www.audiomack.com/album/world-premieres/boosie-badazz

trae tha truth + young thug is such a great, contrasting pairing - their second great song together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqJxtvsVCdU

and GUEST VERSE NICKI is back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqJeL66Zo8o

This Bobby Brackins and Ty Dolla goes hard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU1pPFXunQM

The new IAMSU! is also good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVmw2ssoC4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmJGKtEwomE
i get the sense that "have your own hip hop beef with a member of the wu!" was a pack-in bonus with the price of the album

the crying mother with a brain tumor selling ghost's cannabis oil adds a certain layer of dark surreality

good deej review of the vic spencer / chris crack album whicj is really fantastic : http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21520-who-the-fuck-is-chris-spencer/

if white gzus are eightball & mjg, they're epmd.

really great album

? Epmd was almost done by time 8ball & mjg can't out also I love the Chris Spencer but their styles are way more battle rap energetic than pmd or sermon, who were really I think unique in NYC rap for being less consciously "skills" based

ten year anniversary of dilla's death yesterday. here's an hour of hydrant game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRGHfklwsA

@sh@kedown i'm just comparing two new chicago duos to two legendary duos whom they're akin to in spirit.

feel like i dont get put on to new shit enough any more. where do u guys hear new shit

through checking the audiomack app for "trending" and "recently added" songs, mostly

There's also this:

http://everynoise.com/spotify_new_releases.html

Cool! Not sure I agree w their slam death metal picks tho...

http://i.imgur.com/rmeB6ET.png

the genre designations are a bit off at times but it's a good starting point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zh5kCYqFew

that's........ a thing

Twitter says Jay Rock was in a "serious" motorcycle accident today.

:(

question for goons:

so i was thinking, like now i guess basically the dominant rappers are drake and future basically? plus various autotune warblers and post-keef type dudes...anyway my point being, do we now start to now looking at Lil' Wayne as one of the transformational rappers in history? Like in old school terms like perhaps Run-DMC or Rakim where it's like they actually enacted paradigm shifts to what "rapping" was....or is that too simplistic and am I forgetting someone else?

wayne & gucci

influential rappers of the last decade are wayne, cam'ron, gucci, kanye, jeezy.

cam, really? 50 cent surely more influential

and Daniel Dahmer

subject line: "LIL YACHTY, rap's latest beloved weirdo, debuts at Marlin Room at Webster Hall 2/23"

well i'm pretty sure cam had an influence on gucci and maybe wayne too so yeah cam.

I like this: King Leez, an associate of Raz Simone/Black Umbrella

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1poBTD_niIc&feature=em-subs_digest

thats good

Been listening to Lloyd Banks Halloween Havoc 2 from last Nov. straight rapping basically

Sacrifice
Monument
Live4Ever

The Yo Gotti album is excellent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8DQovDcT8

^is fire fyi

New Young Dolph is pretty good

https://twitter.com/thehotboxsocial/status/701080406578307072

ty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBVlPA24ohk

for a second while it was loading, I thought "Auction" might be a low-key Kanye diss

ooh man i love this beat so heavy

http://www.egotripland.com/bozack-morris-conway-mak-90/

Dirty South Rydaz - Dirty

https://soundcloud.com/dirtysouthrydaz/dsr-dirty

this is so good

https://soundcloud.com/salva/mikey-dollaz-feat-king-louie-forever-be-dat-guy-prod-by-salva

"Auction" was definitely one of my favorites on MMM, and the 2 songs with Ty Dolla $ign both entered the rap airplay charts this week, so it's good to know that project still has some life in it

love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cpSswgABSY

was thinking about the "most influential rappers of the aughties" question and I would add in T.I. and Tech N9ne for very different reasons.

also, playlist is updated

Rolling ILM Hip Hop Thread 2016 Spotify Playlist

holy shit 'forever be that guy' bangs

another art of noise sample!

love the conway stuff matt's posting

lool this song/vdieo is so great

"File this under ‘songs that can only be remixed by Jackie Chain or Ezale’" - martorialist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQRIAAwzdls

i saw pop a perc posted in goon cru standards, goddamn it is fun

think i must be getting old because there's only something like 5 active popular rappers I really even care about anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPnoLCd6KvU

new Philthy Rich tape goes pretty hard

beat sounds like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zTIXccYKbE

you guys fuckin with 1wayfrank?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwTJLhDQKp4
"30 Seconds"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3M8sCjY1Zs
"Roxanne"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIsnf9w45iA
"Traffic" (personal fav)

also really feeling this Biggie flip https://soundcloud.com/newdealcrew/chris-crack-love-is-still-awesome

Man this new Philthy Rich is great street shit

yeah 1wayfrank is good, i don't know why i never checked his music, i assumed he was another future/migos/thug/keef boring copycat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gREKSlrfFLs

1WayFrank has a good melodic sense a lot of post keef/future ppl don't seem to have for me

gonna try to post more irrelevant east coast street bullshit this year (you're welcome?)

Timeless Truth love this beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7AJvUwpBI

also a few Sean Price collaborations, this is an old one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sneAeIhGu2k

and this might be the last newly released Sean verses we ever get ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa4R0h8Qvgo

refund the cash
P spun
big guns
reruns of MASH
mostly solo
mostly Polo
mostly 4-4s
when I smoke the dojo

matt you might fuck w/ $ha Hef
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpNKXogLZLg

i'm little over dry NY styles from new artists, i need a lil more energy, but this guy is pretty good

i like that!

i know you think we're contractually obligated to dislike anything the other likes but that's nice enough raekwon style rapping for me too

love this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm38BpDahNs

yeah that was fun

really really like ferg

so is yachty gonna have hits or is he gonna top off at makonnen

I don't believe in Yachty. Or I don't understand him yet, idk. Hope he surprises me.

And r.i.p. Bankroll Fresh.

yea that is fucked up news rip

wtf?? rip

jesus, that's horrifying. RIP

I like Bentley's album. It goes hard.

https://parallelthought1.bandcamp.com/album/street-knowledge

yep, good album

this should be a hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHqaAhbM7iQ

my favorite song on that tape is "YFN'

i need to listn to that tape more but it all just felt like warmed over same stuff from his first one (which i loved) fav song is prob 'woke up boss'

feel like quan has had a few jams of his own lately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf993VZb6RM

what do you guys think of cupcakke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf7r1sjZUqQ
her new song 'pedophile' is deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8JhwgLxCEA

pretty sure no rapper is as real as this rn

I love it.

i know you think we're contractually obligated to dislike anything the other likes but that's nice enough raekwon style rapping for me too

― ulysses, Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:15 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

??? i don't think that at all fwiw

it's kinda like black metal dudes who never get sick of black metal that sounds like black metal
that's how i am with cryptic nyc street shit

that complex ferg, droog freestyle thing, wiki is good who is he?

wiki is in ratking.

xp not you matt; that's a callback to a weird convo i had with deej on a different thread

I don't remember that convo but I'm also not sure who you are

wiki is in ratking.

― ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:17 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ahhh thank u

deej it's forks

i did not know that

good rebranding i haven't found ulysses as bad

anyway can we talk about cupcakke's 'pedophile.' imo its good and dark but not in the way that makes it hard to listen to

lol you are such a punk

I honestly didn't even know how to react to Cupcakke, the 2 songs you posted were such a sucker punch esp viewed in the order posted. She's talented.

new york keeps pumping out these terrible versions of 'regional' rappers what is with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDnO0an3Oc

cupcakke is fantastic!

Deej I must confess I don't really understand why that Lil Haiti is considered terrible and other similar songs posted in this or previous years threads are considered great

blatant biting? his style is a str8 jack of zmoney and boring lyrics

lol @ 'str8 jack of zmoney'

i loved zmoney as much as anyone but c'mon, no one remembers zmoney

new york keeps up w/ the boring xeroxes of "regional" rap. even when they're not bad like "panda" they get so much more runway and attention than the shit they rip off

i loved zmoney as much as anyone but c'mon, no one remembers zmoney

― flopson, Wednesday, March 9, 2016 7:01 PM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bullshit. that's zmoney's style period point blank.

and it hit a lot harder than you realize:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HSdMvr4Xko

lil yase has some zmoney to him too imo

The whole industry was chasing him for a minute but he spent two consecutive summers in jail which derailed his rise.
https://www.instagram.com/p/z_4dGcRpGe/

nothing more frustrating than the assumption that success = impact, or the implication that the cream rises to the top. connections and industry cynicism and legal issues are as likely to define what pops and what doesnt as talent/originality/creativity

i didn't even realize he was out of jail. 'regular' has less than 200,000 views on youtube--even by your preferred metric the guy was a blip. i said that before i ever clicked on the lil haiti youtube but i just checked and yeah i don't hear it

I thought only old Pete Rockists like myself cared about shit like who's biting who?

Like the knowledge he's from NY seems to play a big part in your opinion

i didn't even realize he was out of jail. 'regular' has less than 200,000 views on youtube--even by your preferred metric the guy was a blip. i said that before i ever clicked on the lil haiti youtube but i just checked and yeah i don't hear it

― flopson, Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:11 (35 minutes ago) Permalink

The original "regular" video got deleted and they had to re upload but I don't know how you can hear that record--or gucci's literal cover of "regular"--and not think zmoney is an obvious touchpoint for it. He has a whole bunch of records w hundreds of thousands of views

and like I said he's a "blip" because he spent two years behind bars! Just because you ignored him doesn't mean hip hop did.

There are ways to bite that are original (I actually like lil yase) and there are more derivative ones like the ppl who were repping for that terrible lil silk song.

with Lil Silk my head says no but my heart says yes jk I don't know that song

J Zone just released a new single "Go Back to Selling Weed" it's pretty good

I did watch some other Cupcakke videos, I think "Exceptions" was really great and another side of her persona. But then after that I decided it's kinda creepy for me to be listening to her so I probably won't anymore but seems like she's interesting

cupcakke's tape is front to back A+

heads up NYC folks on this Red bull gig

APR 30
TRAPPED: METRO BOOMIN, SONNY DIGITAL & ZAYTOVEN
THE ATL HITMAKERS TAKE THEIR PRODUCTIONS TO THE CLUB
LOCATION TO BE ANNOUNCED
Following their appearance at Red Bull Studios New York as part of the ATL edition of our Beatmaker Roundtable, Metro Boomin, Sonny Digital and Zaytoven will take their productions to the club for an official afterparty. At a yet-to-be-disclosed location, the trio will be DJing tracks from their extensive catalogs – spanning beats for Kanye West, Drake, Future, Young Thug, Migos, and many more – and lay down proof that Atlanta currently has the game firmly in their grip.

Re: zmoney influence
https://open.spotify.com/track/35Q0wqndgg6KCeoasXYt8d

i dont hear it there at all

i do hear it here: https://soundcloud.com/ymoney-2/yase-rip

Let me just translate that for you, Sir:
100 bottles is the regular (=vanlie)
Truffle pasta, regular
Smokin rasta, regular
I'm trappin on the regular
Big jewelry, it's regular

lol <3 boosie

https://twitter.com/PhineasAndFerg/status/709168430633582592

https://soundcloud.com/recordsalabel/just-a-lil-thick-main-nonalt-mix-v12-lil-dicky-tj-gang-vox-1db-mastered-dk/
Trinidad James - Just A Lil' Thick (She's Juicy) ft. Mystikal and Lil Dicky - Produced by DJ Mustard
Am i going to have to deal with "Lil Dicky" being on decent tracks now?

I liked Lil Dicky better when he was Hot Karl

Playlist updated through March

Rolling ILM Hip Hop Thread 2016 Spotify Playlist

what do yall think of desiigner - panda?

i kinda love it

apropos in the industry plant thread?

I LOVE THE CARDI B MIXTAPE

lol i've been wondering whether lex knew about cardi since... 4 eva

the hour-long youtube comp of her 2015 instas should have won an oscar

some dude joked on Twitter that he should just change his name to Panda, then I thought about a rapper named Panda and jigglypanda.GIF and now the song just makes me giggle

desiigner is an awful name

In the post Lil' Yachty world Panda could work, it's def better than Desiigner.

The NORE album cover is hilarious and this song is a party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9mcbJca6g

damn royal flush haven't seen that name in a long time
love it!

is there a reason desiigner says "panda panda panda panda" is that slang for some world of yung ppl stuff i don't know?

btw i saw this on pitchfork
http://pitchfork.com/features/rising/9854-boogie-a-rapper-of-consequence/
and i like this guy so far!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqQoypmv3WE

https://images.rapgenius.com/b6ef2c79d36915edc5cd730bb7f38ed8.1000x354x1.png

ah thanks

rolling industry mascot soundclouds
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce9ri7UXEAEFKLP.jpg
https://soundcloud.com/hamburgerhelper/sets/watch-the-stove
http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/hamburger-helper-dropped-entire-rap-album-april-fools-and-its-shockingly-good-170554

i don't find Desiigner sounds like future at all. when i first heard 'Panda' i thought he was British

It's not really his voice, more his flow.

i like my first toronto rap record since solitaire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8O1YQu6JbY&nohtml5=False

what do you guys think of lud foe's '187'...feels like a chicago meets detroit record, intense energy, dark stuff obv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFxEfQF9nV0&nohtml5=False

I like it a lot. It moves.

I somehow totally missed this last November, but this Busdriver mixtape is incredible: https://busdriver-thumbs.bandcamp.com/album/thumbs-2

Try 'Worlds to Run' and 'Great Spooks of Enormous Strength' as tracks showcasing the scope of this release.

heh that lud foe sounds like the hypothetical record ships presumably had in mind when scolding keef for not rapping properly. it's aight tho

Are we not enjoying the Kamaiyah album? I know I am.

yeah love it

has a few trax i like but thats it.

saw a thing on Boogie on pfork really been digging him a lot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZgahk3OLWU

boogie & kamaiyah both put me to sleep

'oh my' is a terrible hook wed to a really old rick ross style beat imo

cupcakke has stayed in rotation for me against all odds

"187" is a grower & you dont really hear its full potential until you hear it in the mixx of other chicago drill stuff...stylistically def Conservative Keef but i think it has a forcefulness that sustains front -> back which is rare

uzi vert is blowing up right now, he has three songs taking off at once which is p crazy, to me he's the Bush to Keef's Nirvana but obv that has its charms

here's a solid mix by the 20-year-old dj behind chicago-based traveling party college craze are listening to now (or were a month ago): https://soundcloud.com/dj-hoop-dreams/lost-in-the-sauce

nice little blend of street stuff, the more college friendly stuff (vert, yachty), local & national, gives you a good idea of a midwest-centric but still playing "cool" ish from other regions (like 21 savage)

its lighter on keef than it would have been any time in the past 4 years (if i recall some do show up towards the end), instead you have a lot of songs which come from that lineage

love cupcakke

kamaiyah puts u 2 sleep??

shes like diet dej loaf

here's the big uzi vert song other than 'money longer'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6jNoWHd8-g

he strikes me as rather personality free & derivative, but makes pretty tightly constructed commercial versions of more ~authentic~ street sounds

I also find I enjoy a lot of FAMOUS DEX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ8gEGA2QRU

in spite of my better instincts

of all these new rappers tho i think kodak black is best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1iaOPYsipU&nohtml5=False

famous dex sounds more like sosamann than lil haiti sounds like zmoney

kodak black is great and super young

famous dex sounds more like sosamann than lil haiti sounds like zmoney

― de l'asshole (flopson), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:06 (1 hour ago) Permalink

Even if this were true (I think they're about equally derivative) zmoney makes better songs than lil Haiti but famous dex makes better songs than sauce twinz

Enjoying this divine council stuff. Thnx erykah badu

diet dej loaf >>> a battalion of diet chief keefs - but then again I guess sleep is good for you.

the Kamaiyah album is outstanding. totally interesting and immersive.

It's completely boilerplate but ok

diet dej loaf >>> a battalion of diet chief keefs - but then again I guess sleep is good for you.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:24 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

One of these artists changed the sound of hip hop and the other is dej loaf

Did he change the sound of hiphop for the better I wonder.

And if Kamaiyah is only the first diet dej loaf who's to say we won't get MORE diet dej loafs ultimately - GASP - changing the sound of hip hop?

Good luck with that

i mean i see some similarities, they are both female and mix singing and rapping pretty effortlessly but i don't see one as being a "diet" version of the other, i think kamaiyah is more explicitly re-imagining 80s and 90s rap tropes in a post "dej loaf" context (if in fact dej loaf is really that influential i dunno)...like for example the first few synth bass notes of that are so o.g. bay area i almost expected too short to come in saying some "i knew this girl named monique" type shit, or "mo money mo problems" she's overlaying glossy 90s r&b over manny fresh drums and def throwing back to a Juvenile type flow or "Fuck it Up" with YG is total update of hazy type 90s g-funk...

she feels really effortless to me and like she's just grabbing sounds and flows that feel right in the moment, almost the opposite of trying to jack Dej Loaf...I mean sing-songy rap flows are the standard now, between Drake or Future or Dej Loaf or whatever, outside of them both being female I don't really see how she should get tagged as a biter of DL.

anyway I like this a whole bunch & and i think it's also fundamentally west coast in a way that dej loaf obv isn't

Bay Area Dej Loaf isn't the worst elevator pitch for Kamaiyah, but I don't really feel like she sounds much like Dej (except for Break You Down, which is totally a Dej Loaf song).

This isn't so much about me running to the teacher like "ooh she's biting" more I just don't know what this really brings to the table that I can't get elsewhere

Anyone who listens to bay rap half as much as I do will be over familiar w this musical style, like, has 80s funk ever been out of style in the bay?

Her stuff feels like tumblr reblog aesthetics to me, not diet loaf as in she's biting her but as in, an even more distanced, oblique, Un-investable sing-song

i'm def checking for every new dex song. david and i had a conversation a few months back where we agreed we weren't sold on him, and i'm (we're?) still *sorta* not... but also his beat choices are kind of impeccable and his style though derivative has kind of coalesced into something identifiable. i still think the concepts of his songs -- i feel like dmc, i feel like kanye to pick two obvious examples -- are a little rudimentary but he definitely thinks conceptually which i think is generally a good sign. he def has that star power charisma and is very hook driven so i've def come around. at the very least he's interesting as a signpost where, like, chicago meets migos/og maco more traditional atl swaggy rap meets lil yachty mumblecore stuff. this is mostly a yachty song but "we next" is one of my fav rap songs i've heard this year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYxm5y7lqW8

i'm with david on not getting the kamaiyah stuff at alll. "how it feel" was cool enough but i feel like the production and general esthetic are doing soooooo much work there. that mixtape left me really cold, i didn't get any sense of what she brings as an artist besides impeccably good branding. what are the kamaiyah hooks that just won't leave your head?

This isn't so much about me running to the teacher like "ooh she's biting" more I just don't know what this really brings to the table that I can't get elsewhere

Anyone who listens to bay rap half as much as I do will be over familiar w this musical style, like, has 80s funk ever been out of style in the bay?

Her stuff feels like tumblr reblog aesthetics to me, not diet loaf as in she's biting her but as in, an even more distanced, oblique, Un-investable sing-song

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:54 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no it hasn't, please feel free to keep moving the goalposts with your argument though

dej has an icy persona that is very her own and the production on her last EP was cool in a way that wasn't trend chase-y. she's not my favorite artist or anything (i still need to listen to the new tape) but she carved out a space for herself pretty quickly. i'm not sure what kamayiah's thing is beyond "i have a brick cell phone and rap over beats that would indicate i have a brick cell phone"

dex has yet to make a song as good as this though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIsdYOCI3Jw

also the very bayish 80's funk production on the kamaiyah tape is better than anything i've heard from the bay in quite some time. And there are hooks and melodies that are stuck in my head. I'm not saying she's a great artist or anything, but she made a good lil' tape.

xp- otm

god forbid anything is enjoyable without having to be some grand new direction for rap music or completely unqiue

not saying that something can't be blithely enjoyable but the hype around the kamaiyah tape has sold it as something much more than that

dex has yet to make a song as good as this though

http://www.youtube.com/v/uIsdYOCI3Jw&fs=1&hl=en

― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:46 (22 minutes ago) Permalink

Sosamann has nothing to do with why this song is good, though

god forbid anything is enjoyable without having to be some grand new direction for rap music or completely unqiue

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If you enjoy it you enjoy it I'm not trying to say it's not worth hearing, I said it put me to sleep personally

dex has yet to make a song as good as this though

http://www.youtube.com/v/uIsdYOCI3Jw&fs=1&hl=en

― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:46 (22 minutes ago) Permalink

Sosamann has nothing to do with why this song is good, though

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday 13 April 2016 19:12 (6 minutes ago)

But Rizzoo does.

Sure? But then there are like 20 famous dex songs better than the next good rizzoo song

don't see the dej loaf comparison at all for kamaiyah? dej's new mixtape is probably the best thing she's done of that length though.

thought kamaiyah was pretty good on one listen (and definitely hooky! and it felt cohesive and distinct in a way debut mixtapes often don't), also thought cupcakke's album was good but not enough to make me open soundcloud every time i want to hear it

cardi b's mixtape remains the best rap of 2016. "trick" is like a "10 crack commandments" or "friend lover" for sex workers

surprised you're not feeling cupcakke more

cupcakke is on spotify, lex

i don't use spotify

i just followed a spotify playlist of yours?

ha yeah i only ever log in to create/update those for other people, p much hate every moment of being inside spotify

[very young dolph voice] preach

i listen to the cupcakke tape on apple music

but you can also buy it on amazon
at any rate its extremely easy to get

lack of hookiness is not the problem with kamaiyah's tape to me per se

don't see the dej loaf comparison at all for kamaiyah?

you dont hear a similarity in their flat melodicism & relative detachment? seems pretty similar to me, again not in the sense of being 'derivative' more in the sense of being, dont we have this flavor already

i don't hear kamaiyah as detached or flat at all? her voice surprised me with how deep it was, but she's got a playfulness/sense of fun about her, whereas dej is always super-fucking-stoneface serious even when she's funny

lex otm

lex vm otm

anyway this is the cardi b song i mentioned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvqpD593NUU

the entire tape is amazing though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39wgcoL5mQA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N202cGQcCqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbISOyovkt8

lex otm about kamaiyah. one of the strong points of the tape for me is the depth of feeling. she reminds me of post-prison boosie on some of the more serious tracks.

oh ffs

if you're gonna fall back on the 'you're just mad about press hype, that has nothing to do with us' and then the next minute compare her to Boosie.....

if anything there's an amateurism to her rap style not an impassioned expressionism, cmon

anyway a lot of detroit rap can sound fairly plug-n-play but i really like rocaine's production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCkLnRFVfBQ

If you're just talking about her voice then the boosie comparison is miles closer than fucking dej loaf

No

deej,

a) if you sleep while listening to an artist you don't get to be the one who decides how she sounds.
b) if most of the stuff you listen to voluntarily has amateur rapping "there's an amateurism to her rap style" doesn't really make sense to other people as a criticism?

It's not a criticism of her it's a description / criticism of that ridiculous comparison to boosie

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MUzKGkpXZas

deej is just mad he can't play firsties with this one

kamayiah to boosie is one of the most laughable things i've read in one of these threads

kamaiyah tape is really, really growing on me. nostalgia but in a lived-in way, not trend-jumping or admitting defeat. idk about production credits but there's just the right balance of modern touches to stop you thinking you may as well be listening to something actually from 1995. she really inhabits her beats too, they fit her narrative voice so well.

relistened to cupcakke and at its best it's whoa - "pedophile", omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8JhwgLxCEA

kamaiyah sounded really amateur-in-a-bad-way to me when i checked it out.

amateur is the weirdest criticism to throw at it, it's fully-formed and polished in a way hardly any debut mixtapes are. a def contrast to all those "20 tracks at 128kbps of rapping over whatever beats are lying around" i've ploughed through over the years

watching cupcakke's videos and i feel like there should be an emoji for this. it's weird, it's almost like a female rapper has finally reclaimed peaches using gross-out tactics to make sexually explicit rap "transgressive" except i don't think cupcakke is aiming for that? but it's pretty unique, it's not the glammed-up weaponised sexuality of kim and trina. feel like the youtube typo of "lol kim" was uncannily accurate

like if there wasn't so much obvious care put into the craft, i feel like cupcakke could easily be uploading these videos with the tag LIL KIM PARODY

You guys are clearly not reading the words I'm writing in this thread

Amateurism has nothing to do w the MP3 bitrate I'm specifically talking about her stylistic approach to rapping, and it's not inherently a pejorative; lots of good rappers make use of an amateur affect

I don't care about being first on this, I saw where she first made contact with the press in real time on Twitter lol

To me she's basically 100s which isn't "bad" but is also not that exciting IMO

I don't care about being first on this, I saw where she first made contact with the press in real time on Twitter lol

I don't care about being first on this oh by the way I was first on this

Lol

had never heard of kamaiyah until yesterday itt bc i check non-tennis twitter once a day and my life is better for it

I don't care about being first on this oh by the way I was first on this

― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Friday, April 15, 2016 9:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im pointing out that being first doesn't matter? being right does. ive never been driven more by being first than by being right. and this stuff just got swallowed up by the hype cycle & is there for being overrated by ppl who depend on magazine ~excitement~

...or you're wrong and the album is actually great.

relistened to the kamaiyah tape. some good choruses for sure, and the production on a few tracks was really nice. 100s is a good comparison, although i prob liked that tape better. got nothing on best tracks on the cupcakke tape though

100s is overdue for a release

so did anyone else listen to the cardi b tape

like the verses on 'juicy coochie' are so inspired imo. great humour (some of these jokes are like, how am i hearing these for the first time in 2016?? how has no one thought of this yet??), hilarious images, kind of a biggie/lil kim flow but also adds her own thing to it. also i appreciate how she brings it into the next level of nast/nsfw to the point you almost feel awkward (18 but i got a tight pussy like i'm 8 uhhhhhHHH)

Coochie stay waxed so I ain't never got to comb her
Fuck a nap time I'm fucking you into a coma
Give you the best sex, swallow yo dick
Hope it dont stick out the front of my neck
Pound pound I like to get cracked real hard
So excuse me sir if my pussy fart
To make my thighs shake like jello
I need a dick longer than a eggroll
Show you a different 69 that no one knows
Like I'm sucking yo toes while you eating my butt hole
He done busting but I'm sucking until he pee
I suck dick like a granny like I don't got no teeth

xp- cardi b is next in the queue

Yeah I've played the Cardi B tape a bit. It's nice!

Cardi B is so persona driven I've had trouble hearing the music when I listen, like I keep listening for a moment that transcends vanity project vibes but I realize that misses the "point."

Still I almost feel like cupcakke is the ideal musical version of what Cardi b is as a personality/brand

I've sort of resigned myself to experiencing Cardi via cultural osmosis bc I don't think it will make sense otherwise

ive heard like four difft rappers now who sound like zmoney btw dont think its deniable any more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0yY3zSnNuw

im willing to believe its some kind of parallel post gucci juju but idk man...

ah man i love this Larry June song for last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnctNcIj3I

love the beat on this french montana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNOGdVQ8qKg&feature=youtu.be

new fat joe & remy ma is awesome

https://soundcloud.com/i-d-online-1/premiere-saba-world-in-my-hands-ft-smino-and-legit - good shit

Okay, here's the lineup of free NYC SummerStage hip hop shows in Central Park and the surrounding borough parks for the next few months; I imagine we'll have a few late announcing paid shows as well. I will be at quite a few of these!

Hip Hop at SummerStage 2016: Featuring Public Enemy, GoldLink, Just Blaze, Fat Joe, DJ Kool Herc, Rocksteady Crew with Nice and Smooth and Bahamadia, Kid ‘N’ Play, Black Moon and Smif-N-Wessun, Jungle Brothers, Young Paris, MHD and more

Just Blaze and Friends
June 15 – Wednesday - 7:00pm – Red Hook Park, Brooklyn – FREE SHOW

Rich Medina, RAAA, Urban Word NYC and Hi-Arts: Journal to Journey, Ziearre
June 19 – Sunday - 4:00pm - Red Hook Park, Brooklyn – FREE SHOW

Film Screening: In My Father’s House – Q&A with Che “Rhymefest” Smith
June 20 – Monday - 7:00pm - Saratoga Park, Brooklyn – FREE SHOW

Public Enemy, DJ Tedsmooth
June 21 – Tuesday - 7:00pm - Betsy Head Park, Brooklyn – FREE SHOW

Duck Down Records Annual BBQ
June 23 – Thursday - 7:00pm - Betsy Head Park, Brooklyn – FREE SHOW

Only in Queens Summer Festival - Ginuwine, Mack Wilds, Kid ‘n’ Play
June 26 – Sunday - 5:00pm - Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, Queens – FREE SHOW

Vivian Green, GrandWizzard Theodore
June 30 – Thursday - 7:00pm – Herbert Von King Park, Brooklyn – FREE SHOW

Fat Joe, Tony Touch
July 6 – Wednesday – 7:00pm – Crotona Park, Bronx – FREE SHOW

DJ Kool Herc, Little Shalimar – Film Screening: Rubble Kings
July 10 – Sunday – 7:00pm – Crotona Park, Bronx – FREE SHOW

Full Circle Souljahs present From the Streets to the Stage
Behind the Groove – Pre-Show Master Class with Kwikstep and Rokafella
July 16 – Saturday – 7:00pm – St. Mary’s Park, Bronx – FREE SHOW

Mass Appeal: Live at the BBQ (Artists TBA)
July 25 – Monday – 6:00pm – Central Park, Manhattan – PAID SHOW

Black Moon and Smif-N-Wessun: Performing Enta Da Stage and Dah Shinin’
July 26 – Tuesday – 7:00pm – Queensbridge Park, Queens – FREE SHOW

Rock Steady Crew: 39th Anniversary with Nice and Smooth, Bahamadia, more TBA
July 31 – Sunday – 2:00pm – Central Park, Manhattan – FREE SHOW

Jungle Brothers, G-Bo The Pro
August 4 – Thursday – 7:00pm – Clove Lakes Park, Staten Island – FREE SHOW

Mbongwana Star, Batida, Young Paris, OkayAfrica Electrafrique with DJ Underdog
Pre-Show Panel Discussion
August 14 – Sunday – 5:00pm – Central Park, Manhattan – FREE SHOW

DJ KS 360 and Full Circle Souljahs present Behind the Groove and Soul Connected
Raphael Xavier Dance
August 17 – Wednesday – 7:00pm – Central Park, Manhattan – FREE SHOW

Sweet Micky, MHD, Erick La Peau
August 21 – Sunday – 2:00pm – Central Park, Manhattan – FREE SHOW

GoldLink, Backyard Band, DJ Spicoli
August 28 – Sunday – 2:00pm – Central Park, Manhattan – FREE SHOW

Best new Migos in a while:

https://soundcloud.com/migosatl/migos-say-sum-produced-c-note

damn this new A$AP Ferg is fucking fantastic

This year is really causing me to retreat back into backpacker mode

Really enjoying the unearthed J Dilla, the new Aesop Rock, Homeboy Sandman and Dälek

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

vic spencer/chris crack tape too #backpackercru

add the new Oddissee EP and Elzhi album for me. Haven't heard the new J Zone yet.

Should prolly crack that new Lif too

yeah i started in on it but got distracted. haven't heard the royce alb yet either.

gotta laugh at aes, dalek and lif releasing albums around the same time tho

This year is really causing me to retreat back into backpacker mode

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, April 25, 2016 6:25 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

2017 thread title? kind of a fitting sequal in contraristaniness to industry plant

Whiney did you like the underachievers album from last year?

That Vic Spencer Chris Crack tape is great

Do you guys feel that like at core Drake is basically a backpacker? I think so.

even though i used to act
this is not a backpack

xp dude lists Phonte as one of his biggest influences, so...

did not know that

drake is everything to everyone

drake is more of a fanny pack

feel like the lucy ford stuff by atomosphere was kinda important (or to blame) for the new drake style passive aggressive "sensitive" dick persona in hip hop

is there a non-spotify (i.e. soundcloud, bandcamp, datpiff, whatever) stream/download link for the Chris $pencer tape? or is that, like, a legit release?

i think it's a real album?

Lil Yachty makes me feel like Ice T when he heard Soulja Boy for the first time. Why wouldn't I break out the Why? and Serengeti collabo

Lol just realized lil yachty isn't lil dicky

weeeeeeird

(thanks)

i think it's a real album?

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

holy shit Panda is the number one song in the country

whats the board consensus on 21 savage

feel like hes about to bryson tiller the rap game

i thought lil uzi was gonna bryson tiller the rap game ?

I've only heard "Red Opps" and it seems like he's gonna fall asleep as he's rapping.

That's the trick.

Playlist updated through April.

Rolling ILM Hip Hop Thread 2016 Spotify Playlist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZ5e94QnWk

nice

lol YG

"Hold up, I fuck with Mexicans, got a plug with Mexicans/Want a little, need a switch, who I call? A Mexican"

since this is a shame-free backpacker zone now, i'm digging the new aesop rock that just came out

whew feels good to be honest instead of holding that shame inside

who was the pre 3/5/2009 rap poster that scared everyone away from talking about stuff like that? i was under the impression ethan and dom both listened to a bunch of corny shit

i dunno ethan's tastes weren't easy to classify

forks and i have always flown the flag for corny shit in these threads generally

new Aes is really great. some stamps of approval with no discussion yet here:
aesop rock C/D, S&D

i think that donald trump song is bad but if it does its job then thats cool.

i did an interview with aes rizzle about his new LP
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/see-aesop-rocks-lazy-eye-at-portlands-truly-odd-peculiarium-20160419

Mixtape rap in 2016 is all just 1. Drill 2. Atlanta Weirdo and 3. Drake in different combinations. I think all three have really worn out their welcome with me.

my favorite old guy rap album (by an old guy for old guys) of the year is J-Zone's "Fish-n-Grits," it's so bitter

peter pan syndrome by j-zone was great, yeah him embracing being out of touch and washed up with acidic humor is really great

Mixtape rap in 2016 is all just 1. Drill 2. Atlanta Weirdo and 3. Drake in different combinations. I think all three have really worn out their welcome with me.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, May 2, 2016 3:27 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this kinda true, a lot of the up and coming artists right now are painting with one or more of those colors and it's very tiresome. i feel like there's some good stuff going on outside of that though.

I've def said this before just insane to me that recorded rap went from Sugar Hill disco riffs to Bambaataa electro to Run-DMC drum machine minimalism to funky Marley Marl samples to Public Enemy noise suites in like 9 years, and we've been listening to the same fucking Lex Luger style hi-hats for almost a decade

people will always use lex luger hi hats, like there's always gonna be drum kits driven beats. It's just an inovation that happened. Inovation in sound is always faster when instruments are new, as were drum machines, synths and samplers in the 80's.
Not to say i'm not waiting for a new sound in rap but so called trap beats are not really the same as in '09, then they were this huge turn up trap music, now it's more like they're turned down by activis.

anyway i enjoy the new aesop rock and joe blow albums.

I've def said this before just insane to me that recorded rap went from Sugar Hill disco riffs to Bambaataa electro to Run-DMC drum machine minimalism to funky Marley Marl samples to Public Enemy noise suites in like 9 years, and we've been listening to the same fucking Lex Luger style hi-hats for almost a decade

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, May 2, 2016 3:48 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

production has changed a lot since 2008 even within varieties prominently featuring lex luger hi-hats imo

you're also kind of writing black hippy, odd future, chance, mustard and the entire bay area out of history here

having said that, obviously i know what you're talking about and i've myself wondered when those hi-hat trills will sound passé

i think that donald trump song is bad but if it does its job then thats cool.

― Spottie, Monday, May 2, 2016 8:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm - the song in itself is pretty underwhelming.

j-zone learning to play drums is cool i like how he now just makes his own brand new old drum samples

he's def one of the best personalities in rap

loved his tweets from Friday about Cash Money

idk i think rap is more diverse than its ever been, biting is just way rampant & lots of unpolished unprofessional shit gets easily signal-boosted thanks to the arbitrary whims of social media "tastemakers" et al

access to all stripes of rap is more easily gained than it ever has been, what is inescapably popular has been a bit stagnant

lotta Aes love happening rn that overlooks how good None Shall pass was

I was afraid to speak out

skeleton was good, and hail mary mallon too

listening to "releasing hypnotical gases" by organized konfusion right now #backpacklife #realheadsknowthedeal #lyricism #hiphop #5elements

only mentioned in the DJ Quik thread but he has a new EP out with Problem. I love it, predictably.
the beat for 'you are everything'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMQcukF6KjE

wow, yeah, this whole EP is great ^^

FINALLY a new NhT Boyz tape

https://soundcloud.com/nhtchippass/sets/nht-boyz-420-project-vol-2

when did the last one come out, 2010?

been a while for sure. theyve all been releasing stuff individually, none of it has been very good i don't think

so am i the only one feeling the new A$AP Ferg?

about to listen

FINALLY a new NhT Boyz tape

https://soundcloud.com/nhtchippass/sets/nht-boyz-420-project-vol-2

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when did the last one come out, 2010?

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtff

on first listen this is... amazing?

great opening

talking about the NHT release?

oh yeah sorry NHT

yeah first couple tracks were really good, kinda slips after that

so am i the only one feeling the new A$AP Ferg?

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 18:18 (1 hour ago) Permalink

I've listened twice, it's an interesting left turn for Ferg, very different from Trap Lord. It's a little too bad cause I think he could've mined that Trap Lord sound for at least another album.

new nht is cool but weed smoking is about the most boring concept i could imagine from them

nowhere near 'power triangle.' still cool to hear them back together, none of them are solo stars imo

as far as ferg i just heard that terrible missy song and was like, nope, not for me

otm re weed concept, saw the title/cover and made hasty assumptions

yeah first couple tracks were really good, kinda slips after that

― Spottie, Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:39 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah, whole thing bangs

it's not as good as PT because PT is a classic. but also, it's pretty damn good. if this had come out in 2011/2012 who knows

re: boring weed smoking concept... who cares? whole tape is turnt up it's not like they're making some lazy wiz khalifa shit. and the raps are great

as far as ferg i just heard that terrible missy song and was like, nope, not for me
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well it's pretty all over the place stylistically so I wouldn't say one track is indicative

the new De La Soul song is the most tired sounding, dispiriting thing i've heard in a long time ;_;

what is the deal with French Montana? Is he, like, a really cool guy or something? I've never seen him as anything other than some super mediocre NYC rap dude but today on Spotify he has a new single & the features are Kanye and Nas! and I know he dated a Kardashian, feel like I always see him pop up with big a-list features and stuff...or is he like the definition of "industry plant"?

That whole holdover De La Soul EP is depressing. Very dumb of them to call more attention to it with the single, but I'm holding out hopes the album proper will have some life on it.

yeah it's almost bizarre, like they sound like they are falling asleeep while recording

A lot of rap acts from their generation falter on free releases. On some level I think they associate "free" with "throwaway." So I hope that's what's happening here. (De La B-sides used to be incredible, though).

The Ferg album btw is the most moving rap release I've heard this year. A super loving celebration of his family; the guest roster doesn't do justice to how personal and thoughtful the record is.

yeah i really think it's striking

speaking of which

D40 - HOLY SHIT, this instrumental long jam at the end of "A New Nite/Rosecrans" on the DJ Quik/Problem EP is so fucking gorgeous....this is g-funk's "Dark Star"

Did deej write about it?

https://soundcloud.com/lulbroski/5-0z

great hook

aoty material right here : http://www.datpiff.com/Payroll-Giovanni-Cardo-Big-Bossin-Vol1-mixtape.783523.html

?
https://archive.org/details/hiphopmixtapes

Really into this dude - I know he's been posted before

https://soundcloud.com/silkmoney/dick-in-da-dope-prod-by-lordfubu

yeah silk money seems to be good but i want to hear more.

either payroll giovanni or cardo sounds a lot like a modern Too Short! :)

^ payroll is the rapper, cardo the producer

numbers of YT views since the beginning of the year : http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=5197673.0

that's internationally, in the us it's:

1 Future 376,144,196 total views
2 Kevin Gates 310,917,071 total views
3 Drake 279,548,526 total views
4 Eminem 240,359,427 total views
5 Fetty Wap 223,532,196 total views
6 G-Eazy 196,039,932 total views
7 Wiz Khalifa 177,622,931 total views
8 Young Thug 166,260,957 total views

G-Eazy?

Wyte Bay Area rapper

fucking eminem

how's that going?

THE NUMBERS WILL SHOCK YOU!

I had no idea Gates was that popular now. Good for him

the eminiem thing is crazy to me

fetty wap has been kinda quiet for q1 / q2, no? just busy on tour or what?

Em's popularity is more akin to a classic rock band than an aging rapper feel like obviously he had a lot of overlap w nu-metal's audience cz enough that his crowd is more loyal dude energy dudes like a metal band

I love when truffle-fry rap chin-strokers start in with "who exactly is still listening to this guy who had two number one singles with Rihanna, haven't people heard of Lil Uzi Vert yet?"

"All the funny white guys in my timeline who went to private colleges but say "fam" and "breh" all think Jay Z has sucked for a decade why is he still popular?"

whereas unfunny white guys

I love when truffle-fry rap chin-strokers start in with "who exactly is still listening to this guy who had two number one singles with Rihanna, haven't people heard of Lil Uzi Vert yet?"

― nazi pugs fuck off (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:17 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh get the fuck out he's not the only person to have had no. 1 singles w/ rihanna

if you don't think its weird that he's the only rap vet who still streams in numbers like those (i don't see jay z on that list...) you're being willfully dumb

if "Eminem" was a genre and "all rap besides Eminem" was another genre, there'd probably be many points in the last 17 years where the overall popularity of each was pretty competitive.

def want to have an argument about an unsourced list someone with a lloyd banks avatar posted to Kanye To The

source is youtube you can check it yourself here : http://www.youtube.com/yt/artists/charts.html

Hey do you guys know Oddisee? He has a new tape called the Odd Tape, kinda like if Dilla was more into 80 smooth jazz but still a beat tape not privy like Flying Lotus or anything, good zone out music

nice to see mancini at #28

28last wk #25
Link to video for The Pink Panther Theme
The Pink Panther Theme
Henry Mancini
17.2M -2.699% 12 wks

oddisee is cool when he raps.

i was just listening to the Oddisee instrumental record, i like it

I'll have check out his rapping, tbh it's almost getting creepy how well Spotify's recommendation engine can predict what I'll like

mozzy & thug

https://soundcloud.com/nipseyhussle/nipsey-do-this-shit-for

thugga verse hurts when breathe

i hope she's famous someday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEscfvTYEQ

Told y'all

https://twitter.com/lilyase600/status/735154999915749376

More new Mozzy

https://soundcloud.com/themekanix/abandonment-feat-mozzy-philthy-rich/

Where's the love for Schoolboy Q's THat part itt. Great Kanye verse too.

That link is wrong song ^

New YG w Drake & Kamaiyah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1CLmap_CVU

Argh, you are right

Playlist updated through May.

Rolling ILM Hip Hop Thread 2016 Spotify Playlist

^^ missing THat part!

Approaching June and Lil Yachty's 1 Night is still the greatest tune of the year so far for me (though not heard Kevin Gates latest yet tbh). #feels

"THat part" is on the playlist?

feeling this birdman + jacquees tape heavy

2013 but new to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI-T9WCYeJ4

things I didn't think I'd say in 2016: "I like this new pusha t and jay z collabo"
http://mp3waxx.com/jobfolders/pushatdda/index.html

Jay's flow is so sad

Why does he pronounce "google" as "goo goo"?

I guess I'll find out in Decoded II

Why does he pronounce "google" as "goo goo"?

― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

s/o to the goo goo dolls #buffalogetthemoney

"you think uber's the future / our cars been autonomous" is a line, isn't it.

dying

https://twitter.com/alshipley/status/739634869169446912

omg

what i'm funna eat for dinner like a basketball, player

skillz

lmao great stuff

roots picnic looks great both days
http://rootspicnic.com/newyork/

what's really on my mind is like damnit am i a sinner?

http://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/db/d5/dbd57bcbb3fff7245025a39061012200.png

WU TANG CLAN - DAVID BYRNE - NILE RODGERS
        (BACKED BY THE ROOTS)

yikes

i mean, that sounds totally fine, assuming The Roots backs those 3 people in different songs and not all at once

i certainly fucking hope so!

"you may find yourself"

wikky wikky wikky

"Back to the motherfuckin' spot on Lexington"

wikky wikky wikky

"you may find yourself"

wikky wikky wikky

"in ya college ass disco dorm"

"GOOD TIMES!"

then it's decided, flopson's imagination will not be allowed to organize the roots picnic

pop a perc remix with montana and e40 (whose bars are great)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDtHftln9sk

this is a great song and e-40 guest verse too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRteOr5I8rI

e-40 is an inspired choice but god... last thing i want to hear is french montana on that 'boyz n the hood' sample

eh, he's there and gone pretty fast

I asked upthread no one seemed to answer but why the fuck is French Montana a famous rapper?? is he like a Make-A-Wish Foundation kid or like a big drug dealer or something?

http://misaramirez.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/its-a-mystery-500x325.jpg

didn't he just basically ride the max b wave all the way to a contract with bad boy?

he made some good music

i still like that one coke boyz release

actually French Montana verse on this is pretty good

love boone's ad libs on the other verses (jamas!)

Ooo
  o
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      o
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      oooohhhh

pop a perc is tied for song of the year with kevin gates - hard for IMHO

poppin percs doing dirt selling work
throw a perc in the club no shirt

i had a tweet that posited French's success as the direct result of a string of failures and tragedies:
https://twitter.com/alshipley/status/701056971860942848

lol, classic

it's fucking amazing how E-40 has stayed so great for so long, unreal

also it's unexpected that 2016' viral hit would have a quote from "I Need Love" by LL Cool J haha

French Montana feat. Kodak Black "Lockjaw" is one of the best songs this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIHR7rUeGTc

yeah its v good

https://twitter.com/FrencHMonTanA/status/741419595932794881

dying at this today

new kodak black tape

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/06/download-kodak-black-lil-big-pac-mixtape/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZDopXNKfFg

<3

need to check that kodak black. i've only listened to about 3 songs this year and this is one of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icm7Z4g3Qlc

The pnb rock song does not do it for me and I normally like him

this might be my fav rap song of the year, it's crazy that he basically sings 2 lines of an awesome hook at the end and just kills the track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1iaOPYsipU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J4pkNv9dQw

on kodak black i really like this

just a quick reminder that dude from clipping now has a tony, get it in.

*Ventures cautiously into thread*

'Sup. I am enjoying Hella Personal Film Festival by Open Mike Eagle + Paul White.

http://open.spotify.com/album/7LWTCCUFJ0USkRscNJJrI5

Don't see it mentioned in the thread but it is high on the Rate Your Music list of the year so I checked it out and I really like it; good rhymes, sometimes clever, smooth delivery and (important to me as a rockist) good production. Aesop Rock is on a track too.

I can add this to the following rap albums from this year that I like: Saul Williams, Dalek, Death Grips and Aesop Rock, making this is the first outside of the "Usual Suspects" for a rock/metal guy like myself (and not really that far outside).

Okay, well... Bye.

*fearfully flees*

I like OME too

https://twitter.com/CupcakKe_rapper/status/742539450220052480

Clever title

Lol

Still brazy bangs

lil big pac is amazing

flopson have you listened to the new cupcakke yet

theres a song that sounds like a tropical house remix of LL Cool J's "Doin It" called "Doggystyle" and she barks on the chorus

Lmao sounds dope

haven't heard it yet

https://soundcloud.com/nipseyhussle/aint-hard-enough-ft-mozzy

rolling gun shots!

man, I love Nipsey.

good mozzy review on p4k btw

theres a song that sounds like a tropical house remix of LL Cool J's "Doin It" called "Doggystyle" and she barks on the chorus

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, June 20, 2016 6:02 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this describes like half the songs on the tape lol

whole thing bangs btw, step up from the last one which was pretty hit or miss

(her little brother's Panda freestyle notwithstanding)

Aww I like the first one better if just because the choruses are stronger. But I think all the songs on it are good. This is good too though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYfVDyrk1c

interesting single from cupcakke, she seems real down to earth in interviews but doing p complex stuff artistically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVf_4Ns3qLU

Nice

she's got an interesting voice

Found this the other day, first single of hers I've thought really had something

whats up plants

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/best-rap-albums-of-2016-so-far-20160628

no boosie is nagl

good read!

good list whiney

i don't know why i do this to myself but i watched the fantano kodak black review...i guess i just don't get it at all and i'm not even on board with him as the next great thing but..like he says that he sounds slurry and offbeat and yet says he like desiigner....it's like he just chose this guy for some reason to level all the charges against trap on? like he talks about how off beat kodak is and i don't really hear it, like there are dudes way more offbeat than this

also he doesn't seem to even engage with it or try to understand, like there's a mournfulness to some of this like talking about will i live to see my son grow and being homeless in his teens and stuff...it's not like it's just content free trap shit like "panda" or something, he's more of a lyricists than a lot of ppl now....weird, but anyway "Fantano is a dumb shithead" is probably the answer here anyway...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQZ80gz-lws

Here's a thing

http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9908-the-50-best-rap-mixtapes-of-the-millennium/

hmmmmmmm

comments on whiney's list are on some jurassic park crystallized in amber shit

xp never thought of cilvia demo as a mixtape; also it shd be higher

that mixtapes list should start in 2008 or something, p4k need a moratorium on writing about da drought 3 and we got it for cheap and dipset stuff and it would have been cool to go deeper into recent stuff

xp Yeah, I never thought of Cilvia Demo that way either. I don't think it was ever available for free?

if anyone is interested
Post-incarceration music of Boosie Badazz

Isaiah rashad is pretty high for someone whose career hasn't exactly taken off since

what difference should that make though if it's just judging the tapes on quality?

that it's sort of... a collective judgement of quality?

the tape itself is great tho lots of ppl make great albums or tapes and then don't necessarily go on to have long careers or great careers

yeah i know my argument is untenable obv but i do think there's an element of truth to what david is saying

finally getting around to Yo Gotti's new one, this is fantastic

what difference should that make though if it's just judging the tapes on quality?

― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like that tape but i think an element of the excitement about it was "what can this kid do next" and now ... here we are

ZMoney had the same problem but I think 'rich b4 rap' is more a fully realized project (which should have made this list tbh)

zmoney pretty obscure even compared to isaiah rashad

Xxp I loved Cilvia and was very meh about the follow up singles. Not sure why it's taken Rashad so long to make a proper follow up, but it's hard to count him out just yet.

https://soundcloud.com/cbmix/chief-keef-light-heist-prod-cbmix-x-young-chop-x-chief-keef

New Keef is dope

i get the impression that the long gaps between releases by TDE artists has more to do with the label than how long it's taking the artists

three years is a LONG time to go between albums for a young artist. If you were a freshman in high school when it dropped you're getting ready to be a sr in college now, or if you were older you've gone from high school to college...that's a huge amount of time for the music's core audience you know?

i agree, just saying i always blame TDE now

lol

Has Zmoney put out anything in the last few years? I loved that tape but totally forgot about him

didn't his tape come out the same year as isaiah rashad's? i mean obv he wasn't on TDE so it wasn't, like, a high profile thing

but anyway he spent 2014 and 2015 behind bars which probably spoiled his shot at the big time. Nonetheless he just released Rich B4 Rap 2 last week

i loooove this a-wax joint

https://youtu.be/nLbp44CAo1g

Nonetheless he just released Rich B4 Rap 2 last week

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, July 2, 2016 5:19 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how is it?

sorry, i know i could google this but does a-wax have a tape/album out this year? everythign that dude does is dope

i don't think so, but I would also like a briefing on him plz by d40 or spottie mayb

he's a loner rapper from pittsburg cali like the mob figgaz. he's very dope cuz he's always been able to put his own twist to the vibes he was rockin with, be it mid 00's mob figgaz or 10's trappy stuff.
i highly recommend "thug deluxe", "conceptz n contradictionz", "unconditionnal thug", "jr high 2 the penn the mixtape", "jr high 2 the pen vol 2", "everybody loves me", "jesus malverde", "pullin strings" and "everlasting money".

"pushin keys" is supposed to drop soon.

i found everlasting money to be a little spotty.

no pun spottie

lol. For me I don't love his old stuff as much as his new, mostly down to production. Some classic old joints tho. I jump on board around 2009-2010.

Hustles Convention from earlier this year is just ok. I really love Jesus Malverde, Pullin Strings, and Everlasting Money which is not spotty to me at all. First 3 tracks are perfection, think there's only a couple tracks I skip.

He does melancholy sad raps as well as anyone

love this off Hustlas Convention tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9enq8ZLz1Ok

production on this album is p spotless imo

https://youtu.be/kX1gTbs0ALQ

deej posted this on his complex column but not sure if he did here but I love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-agUlNitPE

yeah thats a lot of fun, always dig that column

production on this album is p spotless imo

https://youtu.be/kX1gTbs0ALQ

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, July 5, 2016 9:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah it's good, just very of it's time and region I guess. His voice has changed quite a bit since as well. Love this from Thug Deluxe, way wavy for 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXMAfDuL-s0

these new keef songs are so fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Cy-CsszhU

yeah but are only snippets :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKQiokX5VGs

Everlasting Money top five release last year for me

frontloaded imo but the first seven tracks (and maybe the baby bash track) are essential

I don't skip a song til #12 Hunnid Nights. Coulda Been one of my favorites on there

i will go back sometime and retry

Everlasting Money is amazing. i checked out Thug Deluxe and some of those other ancient a-wax releases last time sisi and someone were talking about them but i didn't like it, too much that dry gully sound. and yeah his voice has changed a lot

I guess I prefer the fern gully sound, thug deluxe is fire

I felt like pullin strings was nicely balanced but I'm not always buying his melodic records as on EM, emotion doesn't always ring true for me

listening to a lot of old fuck the police stuff today - Paris, Lench Mob, early Cube solo, still all rings too true, Paris's Sleeping With the Enemy is available (deluxe edition even) with Bush Killa and Coffee, Donuts and Death, he got dumped after the Cop Killer outcry at the time so I'm not sure how or if it was released that year

1st Lench Mob album not on Spotify but is on YouTube

can't imagine what's motivating you. i listened to some early 90's era shit today with that in mind too.

along those lines
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/adisa-banjoko-weaponization-of-hip-hop-part-1.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0YDrWZlz-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06c9XYN5VnM

nice

maybe we shd have an a-wax thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zo3nWJEleI

new Schoolboy Q is great so far! Jada has a nice guest on it

playlist updated.

as far as high profile west coast releases go

blank face lp >>>> still brazy

Yeah big time

agreed

y'all crazy.

Brazy hella stale

I like them both I just feel like Brazy lacks some of the spark of the last one, though maybe in time its grim vibe will grow on me, I keep feeling comparison's to Hell on Earth & It Was Written

& like "Bool, Balm & Bollective" feels so derivative of "Bickin' Back Bein' Bool"...by the next album it'll have to be "Betflix & Bill" or something

Bon't be billy.

this is an odd trio to be rhyming over an old EPMD track in 2016

http://soundcloud.com/cons192/ask-somebody-feat-ty-dolla-sign-tony-yayo

would imagine their primary point of reference is jay and foxy

nah but it's actually the track from "It's My Thing" you can tell from the little vocal samples, they are exactly the same as EPMD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHi3GeLiC4

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3fif3OCYc4

vs "aint no unit like the one i got"

tony yayo should never have to work for money as long as the first 20 seconds of 'so seductive' exists tbh