Jute Gyte

;-)

come chill with lonnie liston smith instead, it's better for you

ahh yes...excellent.

there was a thread where ppl were clowning lj for liking this stuff right

I like Dialectics.

crüt gyte

I like Ressentiment a lot. It sounds like really claustrophobic black metal, music for the crypt rather than the wilderness under a funeral moon

The only problem I have with Ship of Theseus is that when I go back to his older bm stuff it sounds so monotonous and grey to me, I always struggled with them tbh. Kind of like I always felt that I SHOULD enjoy BaN, who bore me silly.

I like Ressentiment a lot. It sounds like really all claustrophobic black metal, music for the crypt rather than the wilderness under a funeral moon

― starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fixed

What about the microtones

I raised this on some other thread.

why are we talking about this shit again?

Bc the mods approved this new thread for publication

Suggest ban all mods

so much hate, so much insecurity

That's a good opening line for a bm song

or board desc

This darts match was shit

^ If you don't the above belongs in this thread think again

Pain And Wrath Are The Slingers

The only problem I have with Ship of Theseus is that when I go back to his older bm stuff it sounds so monotonous and grey to me, I always struggled with them tbh. Kind of like I always felt that I SHOULD enjoy BaN, who bore me silly.

― ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:03 AM (3 hours ago)

I get this actually, and Ship is def my favorite thing he's done, but I still gotta give it up for Discontinuities which has two of my favorite metal songs ever (Romanticism, Supreme Fictions) and is ultimately is the album that helped me start to get over my bias against metal that wasn't stoner or space

Ultros, have you heard 777: Cosmosophy? Opening track especially. Sounds like no other BaN I've heard; is awesome

& Discontinuities was like being thrown into an ice bath for me too, yeah

that must've been painful

jute gyte is the sauna, it is the ice bath

gotta sell it somehow

yeah this dude that gives his music away for free on bandcamp gotta get that brand up

STREET TEAMIN

I listened to the first half of Cosmophony last night, I appreciate what the guy does and I'd never call it bad but somehow everything he comes up with fails to make me feel anything. I've been trying for years but nothing ever clicks with me.

Regarding JG I'm not saying his older stuff doesn't have their moments but the last time I tried to listen to Vast Chains it felt more like a chore than anything. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood.

Fair enough.

Vast Chains is amazing, especially that closing track, but it's the greyest and most forbidding of his microtonal records and should only be listened to when in the mood, yes

I suppose I haven't called Ship of Theseus my favourite metal album of all time in this thread yet, but that it is.

Vast Chains is the one I've enjoyed the most, actually. I don't know that he's done anything that would make even my top 50 of all time but Vast Chains is so fucking audacious.

is there such thing as an instrumental (metal) Jute Gyte album? Vast Chains sound promising, but his vocal style is my least favorite vocal style & doesn't leave much room for enjoyment even when I can appreciate the backing tracks.

it's a complete one-off and not so much metal but the title track of 'discontinuities' is a microtonal guitar instrumental and you might enjoy it

Not to my knowledge, sorry. imo Ship of Theseus is musically a bit more engaging (more RIFFS) so it might detract from the vocals a bit more. fwiw I'm not the hugest fan of his voice either but I'm not picky when it comes to screams/growls etc

I listened to "Discontinuities" a minute ago but it didn't do much for me. it just sounds like he left the tape recorder running as he messed around with microtones as an exercise — it's kind of anonymous and there just isn't anything interesting going on compositionally or stylistically compared to (what little I've heard of) his metal stuff. but maybe I'd change my mind if I heard it within the context of the album. I'll give Ship of Theseus a try, but I have almost no patience for metal growling unless it's buried very deep in the mix.

There are longer stretches without vocals on Ship of Theseus iirc, and I think his composition did grow more sophisticated (to the point where I don't need the vocals much of the time), but, yeah, extreme metal vocals are part of the package, generally.

Listening to Vast Chains now and wondering why I was ever down on it

new album Perdurance out on the 6th of June, which is almost Satan Day 6/6/16

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/jute-gyte-perdurance-stream

idk if can be bothered to listen to the four tracks of this that will be added to my EOY votes before elseq1-5 assuming GFOTY doesn't release anything this year

based on the first 3 minutes i think you'd like this more than prev works but much obliged as ever

i need to sleep soon but god here we are again

i mean...damn

i was all set to snark, but this is great. big leap upward from the "reflective paintings" series in terms of listenability & sonic variety. while still sounding microtonally diseased & horrid, of course.

Haha "At the Limit of Fertile Land" is phenomenal!

Laughter is fitting. This is mad...

His best work yet? Has the most 'groove' of any Jute Gyte album.

I'll wait until I order it

I'll order it, but first I'll listen to it.

It's obviously amazing and I haven't come close to getting my head around it yet. The opening track alone is a monster of a whole new order. Nobody comes close to this guy at the moment.

ok this is another level up then

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

just listened again. "i am in athens and pericles is young" is a hell of a closer.

opener is incredible

that too

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 21:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really in the mood for this anyway, confirmed by listening to about a minute of the opener. Apart from anything else the sound quality was crap so I'll wait for it to materialize on bandcamp or whatever.

you have 1 day to wait

can't even get past the first song because i keep relistening to it

towards the end of 'consciousness is nature's nightmare' it sounds like he shrieks 'let's facetime'

It really does. I like the Sound of Music one best at the moment.

It's on Spotify now. First listen in full with headphones and better sound quality... I can't even begin to unpack this. There are moments when it feels like the sound is being psychically implied or beamed in from afar.

Listening again.

I love that he releases these things in the summer. I really think that he intends for them to be summer albums.

well, yes. they are, really. the heat-madness coming off the swamp...

Listening to this in higher quality and questioning whether other music really matters right now

Will Julio like it though?

of course, but he won't admit it

You say potato, he say po-tah-to.

ha trap beats morphing into insane death metal multi-limbed drum freakery on "at the limit of fertile land". tremendous stuff.

it's up on bandcamp now. the writeup alone is incredible. read it and blush, xyzzzz

pretty interesting stuff - these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

sort of - he used to be much more BM but the rules have shifted

still, there's a big shout-out to Inquisition in the write-up, for what that's worth

at the risk of sounding terribly pretentious, i consider it neoclassical maximalism in the metal song form above all

The title “Consciousness Is Nature's Nightmare” is from Cioran's Tears and Saints by way of D.F. Wallace's late masterpiece “The Suffering Channel”

Knew I recognised this! This is however, the only sentence I can even approach understanding from the liner notes. I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.

the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok

these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)

the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.

the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:38 (34 minutes ago)

afaik lj is using neoclassical in a sense other than that conventionally employed within the field of music

Always appreciated this dude but I actually bought the CD this time

this sounds quite fun

donning his most gytian display name

this and the shxchhchssh album a fine accompanient to the sturm und drang rumbling away in the background

yeah i was just listening to this while walking through a pimlico thunderstorm in a yellow shirt with swallow print, check shorts and sandals, p much optimal

maybe mustard rather than yellow

I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.

In this case, I think that a 4:5:6:7 ratio means that he has four parts moving at four different tempi, which are in this ratio to each other, such that 4 beats of #1 takes as long as 5 beats of #2, which takes as long as 6 beats of #3 etc. So, for example, if you have a string quartet where Violin 1 is playing a line at 96 bpm, Violin 2 is playing at 120 bpm, Viola is playing at 144 bpm, and Cello is playing at 168 bpm, Vln 1 would play 4 beats in the same time that Vln 2 would play 5 beats, which would also be the same time that Vla would play 6 beats and Cello would play 7 beats. I haven't actually counted the parts in "Athens" but I think Kalmbach is saying that this is what is happening in the polymetric passages.

I have honesty never felt like I really needed to use the concept of hypermetre in my life (except when reading someone who does) but the Wikipedia summary is decent. I prefer to just think in terms of bars, phrases, sections, etc., honestly. I think that all that Kalmbach is saying is that he has organized "Palimpsest" into phrases or sections that are all multiples of 33 beats long.

write me when he does a piece with a ratio of one over the cube root of pi to the cube root of 13/16

nerdiest post ever on ilm

We're all posting to a thread about microtonal progressive extreme metal iirc.

Rushomancy's request, otoh, is U&K.

So I'm loving Ship of Theseus, thanks ILM.

and yet sund4r you out-nerded everyone on it :)

perfectly intelligible explanation imo

albvivertine, glad you're aboard. hope you're able to go back and hear the slightly earlier stuff, even if JG is apparently refining his art with each album

Rushomancy's request, otoh, is U&K.

― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r)

i tried to google this abbreviation and all i could come up with is "undertaker & kane".

lol

And thank you Sund4r for your explanation! That was lovely

Imago I'm planning to. His notes being v dry/technical, is there a particular electronic album of his you'd recommend?

well, the latest one, DIalectics, is presumably the most 'advanced' and it is p great...I am planning to listen to all his pre-Discontinuities work and compile a best-of at some point but I haven't yet

you could argue that Perdurance is both his latest electronic and his latest metal album tho

And thank you Sund4r for your explanation! That was lovely

("U&K" = "urgent and key")

Finally listened to this. I'm not exactly in raptures about it but it's decent enough.

i sort of thought that after one full listen, in a 'maybe ship of theseus is still the best one' way

but no, twenty or thirty listens later i'm declaring this another forward step in the career of the most exciting musician on earth

your damascene moment awaits. no pressure tho ;)

positive AMG review yesterday

I've ordered the CD. Looking forward to it coming!

these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)

the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.

― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:01 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

listening now, yes striking me as modern experimental death metal, of the Gorguts or Portal school. However, the vocals, and the general sickliness of the mood could be seen as black metal. Biggest struggle thus far is the drum programming, but liking the overall production

I was wondering what instruments he used. His guitar is a "cheap Squier" with a replacement 24 fret per octave neck.

https://thegrindthatannoys.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/guitar.png

Any consensus tracks emerging? Of late I have been marginally favouring the even-numbered pieces while adoring the whole

New one just isn't doing much for me really. I think I'll just jump off the JG train for a while and see how he's doing in another couple albums or so.

CDr arrived today

Jumping off a train just as it goes all pandimensional

Listening to Perdurance again because it sounds like how I feel right now.

It was all I could bring myself to listen to on Friday morning.

Still haven't gotten mine yet. :(

My 2 CDs arrived today. The discs are housed in DVD covers - unfortunately the black type (natch), rather than the more stylish clear plastic. #firstworldgripes

i'm bored of not talking about this album

Hi

What will his next album be like imago?

How many tones?

2-tones

Skank Of Theseus

lol if Mr K. really wants to push boundaries that's the direction he needs to go in

His new album's opening track literally features trap beats. He is giving the people what they want

https://soundcloud.com/blckhrzns/jute-gyte-funereal-like-a-life-in-wait

just in case you hadn't heard and felt like getting your jaw dropped again

the Ecferus half is amazing too - https://ecferus.bandcamp.com/album/jute-gyte-ecferus-split - and I need to listen to Ecferus a lot

how many new 20-minute jute gyte tracks did we need this week?

the answer was

two!!

https://soundcloud.com/blue-tapes/forthcoming-in-2017-from-x-ray-five-jute-gyte-the-sparrow

So, The Sparrow.

https://bluetapes.bandcamp.com/album/x-ray-five-the-sparrow-12

Opening track is still amazing - not as dense, intricate or punishing in many ways as his more overtly black metal stuff, and it doesn't go crazy on the polytempic electronics either - it's more of a Branca-esque neoclassical piece in five movements, almost entirely for guitar. It features some of his most breathtaking polyphony yet, and some of his scariest music. sund4r and DAM you guys have GOT to hear it. I'm listening to that Branca thing in exchange :P

Second track Monadanom is another avant-classical piece - more ambient and with more swirling sonic depth (where The Sparrow was military and relentless, this is psychedelic and sly) - lots of very unsettling and unusual sounds in the mix, as well as what sounds like backwards guitar (the palindromic conceit of the title perhaps tying in here). Around halfway through it blossoms into an immense and cavernous layered drone before retreating into chilling microtonal sighs. I'm yet to fully wrap my head around it but it might even be the more impressive piece.

Nobody else is expressing an opinion on this so I don't know how to calibrate my own. It's amazing? Will that do?

Bonus: John Doran of sometimes this very parish has given it probably the best blurb any record in 2016 has received.

Sounds pretty good. Will say more after listening more.

But that was enjoyable.

I haven't listened to this yet (my concentration span for music is pisspoor these days, thanks mental health), am definitely interested in the more avant-classical side of JG though I wonder if I'll still find it not quite living up to the hype. Mainly posting here to point out to imago that Blue Tapes were also responsible for Katie Gately's first tape and I highly recommend you poke around the rest of their output (full disclosure: BT head honcho is a pal and I know it's a labour of love so promoting it to people may well be kinda shilling but also I genuinely think you're going to like a load of it).

yeah Blue Tapes guy seems great! will definitely have a poke about. 'pipes' was a truly astounding release and if there's anything even remotely close to that on the roster it'll be worth checking out!

this is so fucking good, we're lucky this and Krallice dropped after the metal poll

He needs to work with this singer
http://www.cmuse.org/anna-maria-hefele-does-overtone-singing/

https://youtu.be/vC9Qh709gas

and https://youtu.be/WlDi2XpK_dQ

Second microtonal trilogy concludes with Oviri, out 10th July

Cool. Been listening to Young Eagle recently and a lot of it's actually kinda loose and groovy, which is odd. Might be down to what sound like (v good) live drums.

I haven't really listened to that one at all! He's claimed the title/lyrics/aesthetic are basically a parody of the sort of absolutist philosophies espoused by many BM bands, which makes sense

The predecessor was named Old Ways to parody Black Metal's idealisation of basically non-existent ideas of old Nordic culture and cos it's the name of a Neil Young album (no further explanation), so yeah. I sometimes think there might be a fair amount of humour in his overwrought album notes on Bandcamp.

I only have like two of his records but they really repay close attention when I have close attention to give. I think time will show this guy to have been a valuable addition to the field, there's nobody really like him even though all the elements are familiar.

:)

and yeah, lots of dry humour. he's a massive DFW fan for starters

Cover connection

https://68.media.tumblr.com/2bf15bcb85c32e2e04b1cbd91b865341/tumblr_orwpt2nkhK1rkya77o1_400.png

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

5 minutes in and this is sounding way more nuts than the last one

"Mice Eating Gold" is closer to what I was expecting, that martial, lurching groove...

I just wrote THE NORMS THAT AUTHOR THE SELF RENDER THE SELF SUBSTITUTABLE on my whiteboard at work, fuck it get lit it's new Jute Gyte day!!

:D

Obviously this is completely insane

the opening minutes of "fauna of mirrors" are pure nightmare fuel

yeah that one

the last 16-17 minutes of the album are basically an experiment in fear featuring absolutely no metal whatsoever

it is a terrifying, alienating, crazed album. also I think it's not as good as the last few, but these are early impressions as i try to get my head around it. feels like it comes from an incredibly dark place and was a sort of punishment to make. perhaps these songs could be shorter (except the opening track, which is amazing and could be longer) but that would maybe spoil the protraction of the pain idk

I will be very curious to see the bandcamp notes

yeah seriously! the last three compositions are weirder and more difficult than even the sparrow ep

second track is also amazing tbf (haha it starts eh...)

Can't wait to get home from work today for this

Will listen when I'm in the "mood". sund4r tells me it's his best yet

Still early to say that definitively tbf but it does seem like he's taking his thing further out. I think this sounds a little better than the last one, also.

The tracks are really long and I haven't really broken down the compositions as compositions yet but a lot of great moments.

I've reached the point where I can confidently state that the first two tracks are brilliant, although there is a really obvious mistake kept in during the track 2 build! presumably kept in on purpose

https://i.imgur.com/9vULo0I.png

Speakers on 11 and on dis ting!

Title track is what's inside the Boîte Diabolique, 42 and soon to be 43 scarred souls forever

First impression: this album seems quite a bit more... accessible (relatively speaking obv) than its predecessors? There's bigger spaces in between the riffing and microtonal freakery. The build up in the first two songs doesn't throw you off in the deep end immediately (tho obv you'll find yourself there at the end). Less relentless, more menacing and creeping up on you.

Mice Eating's lost couple of minutes are simply beautiful in a sense his music is hardly ever beautiful, ie. straightforward.

~

Ok the above was just about the first two songs :-/

"Yarinareth, Yarinareth, Yarinareth, which signifieth Beyond—these words be carved in letters of gold upon the arch of the great portal of the Temple of Roon that men have builded looking towards the East upon the Sea, where Roon is carved as a giant trumpeter, with his trumpet pointing towards the East beyond the Seas."

Deadddd

This is my shit. Swiveling synth like sounds playing ping pong on your soul as the table, ghouls trying to climb up from out the netherworld, abrasive riffs, just a bit o' proper despair all round, creepy crawly fingerpicking. And again an outro of what, two, three minutes, that sounds like insects running amok inside your skull culminating in an obliterating white noise. How could anyone not love this?!

the opening minutes of "fauna of mirrors" are pure nightmare fuel

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:04 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that one

― imago, Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you guys weren't kidding, huh... When after the warbled gibberish teh riffs comes in... Chills down my spine

we all love creepy vocal fx right

3.30 to 5.30 bit in 'Fauna of Mirrors' is ex-qui-site

xp omt

Circling down ever further w/ the beginning of 'The Norms', which feels as catatonic as it feels cleansing. The whole composition feels like sitting in a cart, not controlling the horse, and constantly feel the stabbing of the cart in your side as you make twists and turns, down unknown corridors and alleys with mirror clad walls.

I know I'm not doing anyone a favour here with all this. But yeah, this is a great fucking album. Precisely because it comes from such a dark, dark place, like LJ mentioned. In a way it feels more accessible than his last couple of albums, but that's probably because I've only touched the surface. Too afraid for a headphone listen right now.

Last minutes of 'The Norms' are again heavenly, w/ the bells. Unearthly delight, lush like I've not heard from him ever before (though I don't know all his stuff).

'Oviri': the swallowing is whole, after being devoured this oddly feels like a warm bath. Within an absolute nightmare. (it is this one that ends way too soon and sudden for me tbh. I wasn't ready yet)

Amazing.

Yep, bought it today and listened on speakers and this is probably his best work.

disagree but it's still great. first half is stunning, second half maybe a fraction too abstruse to delight me 100% but still full of dark thrills

This... might not be his best but it's probably his most bizarre even by his standards. There are a few HOLY FUUUUCK moments but I don't like the way it jump-cuts between loud and quiet sections, I get that it's meant to be jarring but comes across as kind of lazy writing imo. Only listened to it the once so I guess this might change.

The review by that certain fucking dipshit on RYM might actually be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet, including transcriptions of Trump interviews

Mine hasn't arrived yet

It's still very good, my enthusiasm waned a bit with Perdurance but I'm pretty much back on board

sund4r has been saying for weeks its his best yet

It's not up there with Perdurance for me, yet, but I think it's a great album. And I love the change in dynamics; the 'quiet' sections still have so much going on in them.

Been listening to Ghost Sickness and it's great. Also, which is as odd as how kinda groovy Young Eagle turned out to be, it's mostly just very straightforwardly pretty.

yeah that one is mostly just pretty, sad electro with an excellent cover. dude has range

He does. Eagerly awaiting his "straightforwardly pretty" black metal album now

'isolation' has a very straightforwardly pretty opening track!

happy new four-hour Jute Gyte ambient album day!

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/

EVERYONE's copying Autechre now haha

not that keen on his electronic stuff but out of four hours theres surely something good nestled away in there. fucking hell, this guy is insanely prolific

Temple of Roon

twp lol

it does say it was created 2002-2018 - this is clearly an ongoing project that's finally ready (like most of his stuff)

so far it isn't quite as gloriously fucked as Dialectics but it is pleasantly unsettling

I've never been into his electronic albums before but I'm actually really digging this five tracks in.

It's fucking amazing is what it is, this. I've never heard a single ambient Jute Gyte track before in my life, didn't know he did this!

Between Autechre's NTS sessions and this: I do not for the life of me know why we deserve such beauty.

I made it to I think the second track before I heard some growling. Are my ears deceiving me? Because I know the dude's background, but I'm really not in the mood for growling these days.

I'm hearing little to no growling? Plunged in at the 5th track, 'The cave is empty', and that was me sorted. I did not know this man could deal in mournful bliss as well.

Do you mean "growling" as in extreme metal vocals? Because I don't remember any on the whole album but tbf there were times when I had it on the background while doing other things?

Maybe it was just generally distressed vocals? I'm thinking of the start of "Another Pioneer," sort of Ligeti meets throat singing.

I hear layered chopped up and processed voices there but not growling.

OK, moaning, then.

for me JG is often kinda like -- idk -- some of those doorstop authors you might have in your library who you know you'll probably enjoy when you get to 'em, but at the same time they're kind of a slog & eat up all yr time so you get to 'em less than you might. I have two albums, have listened to 'em some, but I very seldom say "you know what'd hit the spot right now is some Jute Gyte" - it's like doing critical theory, I enjoy the ride very occasionally. But fuck if this ambient one doesn't sound fantastic

"the cave is empty"

Oviri now has a vinyl option on Bandcamp.

'birefringence' out july 1st. gird yourselves

Hammershøi represent.

would love to attend an exhibition of the paintings he uses for covers

I'd watch that, imagine if he'd get those all in one museum!

Stoked for the new album. Reading the wiki on 'birefringence' gave me a blank stare for about five minutes straight, I trust the album to make more sense.

would it make more sense if i told you birefringence or double refraction is a key concept in pynchon's 'against the day', which i basically made jute gyte read lol

So you're the culprit/philanthropist.

we all need a little more dual-reality in our lives tbh

More of an infinite fractal reality man myself but yeah.

ahaha... see, a Jute Gyte I can handle (unlike many). An Imago-infected Jute Gyte though? Sign me up!

announcing an album in advance....he's going corporate on us

fifth track of this is some kind of insane slowcore electro trap lullaby

Is this not on bandcamp?

spotify, bandcamp will be up any minute now

can't get over The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars, it's as tt said 'basically a Katie Dey song' but there's Low and whatnot in there too

here https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/birefringence

Thanks!

The central portion of "Dissected Grace" is drawn from William Blake's Europe: A Prophecy. This album is additionally indebted to Morag Josephine Grant's Serial Music, Serial Aesthetics; Thomas Pynchon's Against the Day; Carlo Michelstaedter's Persuasion & Rhetoric; Keiji Nishitani's The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism; Walter Benjamin; György Lukács; James Tenney; Robinson Jeffers."

Walter Benjamin!

The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.

it isn't quite metal or anything else but the 'insane slowcore electro trap lullaby' that is The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars is more or less the most stunning thing I've heard in a very long time, and I want everyone on ILM to hear it

Wasn't sure about the first track but the rest sounded very good.

the song imago speaks of goes absolutely nowhere

or have i got the songs mixed up? the last song is the one i speak of

5th track. closer is an ambient classical piece

My problem with what little I've heard of his music is that it's usually less interesting than that of his avant-garde and classical touchstones, although the cultivated art brut vibe does add something different (and very American) to the equation, bringing to mind someone like Harry Partch. I mentioned Ferneyhough earlier (because he wrote an opera on Walter Benjamin, Shadowtime, and 'Angelus Novus' is a fairly transparent allusion to the 'Theses on the Philosophy of History') and I always wonder why LJ never reps for that kind of notated maximalist stuff.

Anyway, I'm halfway through Birefringence right now and so far it's won me over, including that first track.

simple answer: ferneyhough et al rarely recorded a definitive version of their works and released it as an object of art. my idiot consumer brain still can't deal with the notion of notated music. too many interpretations, too much responsibility on the performers. this is my failing obviously

i *can* however deal with live recordings (or live performances i attend) of previously-released material, so maybe the mere existence of a definitive version with a release date and a length is enough to validate subsequent reworkings. i also like it when artists cover other artists' songs

what am i on about, sorry

The good news is there are plenty of composer-supervised, even composer-approved recordings of 20th and 21st century works, although in Ferneyhough's case it raises inextricable paradoxes insofar as his music is all about the tension between reading, listening and playing.

I'd also like to point out that your take (which I share to some degree, as I'm still very much attached to the figure of the auteur – or autrice – regardless of art form) is distinctly un-Benjamin-esque: the aura thus no longer clings to a given performance, having shifted towards the endlessly reproducible recording itself.

The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.

― pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Please don't lol

On account of the Benjamin reference. So I was half-joking.

Are you still keeping up with new 'new' music?

Not really, no, a bit sad about it but there's little to no time to invest in it. But I do want to make it to some concerts.

That's too bad. I've all but given up on film for similar reasons so I don't blame you.

it's interesting that i started the thread on this artist because i absolutely and fundamentally do not understand their music

this is more an observation about myself than jute gyte. i wish i understood some music theory.

I sort of don't fully understand either, but it is awfully pretty

yeah, i mean sometimes i like to listen to really evil sounding black metal while thumbing through my copy of dante's inferno. jute gyte has hit this spot before -- i remember ressentiment having a really claustrophobic sound i liked. it reminds me of the time nakh corrected me for misusing the term "ressentiment" in conversation.

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

The aleatoric and serialist methods he uses I understand both from instinct and from our private communications to be as much a means of generating creativity through restriction and formation of process as they are integral to the desired sound

That said, both the curiosity value they generate and the mathematical pleasures of hearing for instance polytempi sync up and fall apart are not harmful to my enjoyment

Ultimately I do think he just likes writing bangers, at least in his metal guise

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https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/mitrealit-t

The first two tracks are downright catchy in their wonkiness. I feel like I'm eventually going to be a massive fan of this dude when I finally come to appreciate 'metal vocals' more broadly, lol.

Well yeah, he's always known a tune. Prometheus Ends In Onan follows (to an extent) a familiar Gytean formula but it's a monster, a monster

Prometheus Ends In Onan is currently blowing my mind. I think even non avant-garde/Branca loving metal people could get behind this one. I'm only on track 2 but thats my take so far. Love it.

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/unus-mundus-patet

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

opening track really does sound like slowed down/sped up tape

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

― imago

dugga dugga dugga

jute gyte has had nine releases since the last one i listened to, "bierefrigence"? i can't keep up :(

Only this one and Mitrealitat are metal of those since Birefringence

This one has some quality stuff, mostly the first three tracks and Killing A Sword

Is there a primer somewhere on this guys discography? I just used up part of a bandcamp voucher on Birefringence and Young Eagle DLs. Quite random. I already owned Ship.. and Perdurance CDs. I'm in the mood to just get it all.

I mean, I can advise, but even I haven't heard all the purely electronic stuff (much of which is good). Jute Gyte 2024

Thanks. Realistically I'll never find the time to digest all of this. I'll dabble.