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The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, the Who, Roger Waters and Neil Young to play giant two-day concert in October. Does this seem like a good idea?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:16 (nine years ago)

Boomeroo

always be charging (rip van wanko), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)

Primaviagra

tylerw, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)

why wouldn't it be a good idea? any one of those guys would be a draw at most rock festivals and does big numbers touring on their own, and this way you're going big at one particular demographic. maybe the target audience is so old that they don't like outdoor fests as much as indoor venues, but i don't imagine that would stop them from selling a ton of tickets.

some dude, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)

and tbh aside from Bob and Neil i haven't seen any of them live so this would be a way to cross a few names off my concert bucket list that i was starting to think i never would, so i'd go if i was able.

some dude, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:20 (nine years ago)

no Moonglows?

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:22 (nine years ago)

Limpapalooza

always be charging (rip van wanko), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:24 (nine years ago)

Sagsquatch

alpine static, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:26 (nine years ago)

The CBS-Polygrip Summer Fun Fling

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:28 (nine years ago)

I don't think they are all going to survive this concert, though I'm not sure who will be the first to croak.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:28 (nine years ago)

Quick, guys, who's on the bill for the fiftieth annual iteration of Oldstalgiafest?

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:31 (nine years ago)

Goldenvoice and Jitterbug Present:

http://easylivingprogram.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jitterbug_senior_citizen_cell_phone.jpg

... (Eazy), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:33 (nine years ago)

this is a pretty great lineup. but I imagine they'll need more people to fill up two whole days.

akm, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)

Hoffmanpalooza

Master of Treacle, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)

DJ Gene Hackman in the Sahara Tent.

... (Eazy), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:36 (nine years ago)

I would pay like a lot of money to see a well-edited highlight reel of the audience dancing at this show.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:40 (nine years ago)

this is a pretty great lineup. but I imagine they'll need more people to fill up two whole days.

Apparently they're each performing full headliner-length sets, not abbreviated festival sets.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)

Most of these acts have sold out baseball stadiums in my city in the past few years.

... (Eazy), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:43 (nine years ago)

http://adventureworld.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ep23_seth_coffin.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:48 (nine years ago)

Y'all should do your folks a solid and score them some fresh weed for this thing. Don't just let them settle for those joints they've been hiding from you since '71. Come on. These are the people who raised you

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:55 (nine years ago)

Neil still torches 90% of the rock bands that okay Coachella, plus Coachella is alreadyin the nostalgia biz with LCD and shit like that every year

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:10 (nine years ago)

Neil is seriously the only septuagenarian of the bunch I'd actually care to see.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:11 (nine years ago)

otm Neil still delivers live and is comparatively really unpredictable next to these other dorks

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:15 (nine years ago)

plz tell me Michael Caine will be spinning ambient in the electronica tent

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:18 (nine years ago)

really really want the stones set to include a hologram brian jones, and the dylan set to include a hologram traveling wilburys.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:23 (nine years ago)

Hologram Will.I.Am as an completely unneccessary hype man throughout every set.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:25 (nine years ago)

rumor has it that McCartney's set will feature a 40-minute version of "Cut Me Some Slack"

ejemplo (crüt), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:26 (nine years ago)

otm Neil still delivers live and is comparatively really unpredictable next to these other dorks

― Οὖτις, Monday, May 2, 2016 1:15 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dylan might be a lot of things but he's not predictable, they p much change the arrangements of the songs every night. it took me like a verse to realize i was hearing tangled up in blue last time i saw him

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:27 (nine years ago)

thought his setlists/arrangements had become more uniform in recent tours...? idk I've never seen him

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:32 (nine years ago)

Isn't Neil the only one of the bunch to as yet even release an enigmatic announcement that he is on board with this?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:38 (nine years ago)

Needs a reunion set by Pavement

Mark G, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:40 (nine years ago)

No, Daltrey basically spilled the beans on the whole thing, but no one listens to Daltrey, so press reports are still saying "no confirmation on this yet!"

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:40 (nine years ago)

Everyone has released an enigmatic online trailer/announcement except Neil.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:44 (nine years ago)

his trailer is only available on #pono

tylerw, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:45 (nine years ago)

Well, yeah.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:45 (nine years ago)

All-star cover of "Creep" will close out the weekend.

... (Eazy), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:54 (nine years ago)

obligatory
http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/1324/6/16x9/600.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:55 (nine years ago)

corpsechella

veronica moser, Monday, 2 May 2016 20:32 (nine years ago)

can't wait until these guys die so ilx can like them again

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 May 2016 20:38 (nine years ago)

Not sure any of us have a problem with any of these acts. I'm not even sure the presence of the shows on the schedule will pop out as anything out of the ordinary to any of the acts other than maybe Mick. I think it's the craven, so obvious and tedious cash-grab aspects that are gross. They should call it the Old Money festival.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 May 2016 20:50 (nine years ago)

i dunno, i bet that this'll be cheaper than going to see all of these acts separately? still won't be cheap, but hey ...
surprised that dead & co. aren't on here. maybe they'll be a last minute addition.

tylerw, Monday, 2 May 2016 21:02 (nine years ago)

Predicting the price is a good issue. I bet compared to what they charge on their own it'll be a bargain. These fests deal in volume.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 May 2016 21:06 (nine years ago)

The way I see it, is that you may as well go and see these acts while you still can.

Turrican, Monday, 2 May 2016 21:30 (nine years ago)

this is going to make so much fucking money

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 2 May 2016 21:46 (nine years ago)

http://spiritoftheages.com/AR%20STG%20cover%20(250).jpg

tylerw, Monday, 2 May 2016 21:48 (nine years ago)

What's a cash grab and what's a festival? Who decides

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 May 2016 21:51 (nine years ago)

I don't think determining whether it's a good idea, in the scope of what the thread is addressing, is about whether this will be profitable or well-run. This company tends to do a decent job of running festivals, and sure, it'll make money.

This is definitely a case of giving people what they want. But I really don't think I'd want to hang out with the people that want this.

Grabbing the top critical/financial successes of a narrow set of years that's 100% white rock dudes is so high concept that this transcends being a cynical ploy. It's like replacing the pitcher on a baseball team with a pitching machine that just spits the ball directly into the center of the strike zone at a low speed.

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 May 2016 21:53 (nine years ago)

what gives me the willies is that the subtext is basically "SEE THEM BEFORE THEY DIE"

tylerw, Monday, 2 May 2016 21:53 (nine years ago)

Most of these acts have sold out baseball stadiums in my city in the past few years.

― ... (Eazy), Monday, May 2, 2016 1:43 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was gonna say, tickets for McCartney for his first appearance in Cleveland since 2002 went on sale on Monday, and he sold out Quicken Loans Arena (20,000+ seating) so fast that they added a second show within an hour.

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Monday, 2 May 2016 21:53 (nine years ago)

otm, it transcends the ideas of cash grabs and festivals

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 May 2016 21:53 (nine years ago)

and tbh aside from Bob and Neil i haven't seen any of them live so this would be a way to cross a few names off my concert bucket list that i was starting to think i never would, so i'd go if i was able.

― some dude, Monday, May 2, 2016 12:20 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I second this except that I've never seen any of these folks live. Man, if you've got the time and money, GO!

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 2 May 2016 21:54 (nine years ago)

for some reason I'm having a flashback to an article in the local paper over the weekend about confused concertgoers showing up at the wrong time

it was a multi-show weekend where they added additional shows to match ticket sales. initially there was only an announced saturday show, then they added friday, and then a couple additional dates

a bunch of people showed up on saturday only to be told they missed their concert as they had tickets for friday. people insisted they bought tickets for the concert they showed up for. the purchasing website had the right date. the email confirmation had the right date. the tickets they'd printed and showed up with had the right date. they showed up on the wrong date.

however, the venue _anticipated this would happen_ and had set aside an entire area for people who showed up to the wrong concert night

I can only imagine what will happen at this festival

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 May 2016 21:58 (nine years ago)

man mh I think you underestimate how much people like to make a lot of money

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 2 May 2016 22:22 (nine years ago)

I know, like, who am I to talk, but wouldn't it be cool if at least a sizeable portion of the surely mind-boggling proceeds from this festival held by multi-millionaires who (let's be honest) probably don't have that much longer to enjoy their multi-millions went to a charity of some sort?

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 23:30 (nine years ago)

Think of their kids!!!!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 May 2016 23:45 (nine years ago)

Their AARP-age kids!!!!!!!!

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 23:47 (nine years ago)

(Or whatever the British equivalent of the AARP is for some of them, I guess.)

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 23:48 (nine years ago)

This is definitely a case of giving people what they want. But I really don't think I'd want to hang out with the people that want this.

Grabbing the top critical/financial successes of a narrow set of years that's 100% white rock dudes is so high concept that this transcends being a cynical ploy. It's like replacing the pitcher on a baseball team with a pitching machine that just spits the ball directly into the center of the strike zone at a low speed.

This is exactly how I feel about this. (Well, this plus total loathing for Paul McCartney.)

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 2 May 2016 23:52 (nine years ago)

What's to loathe?

http://movieboozer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/BroadstreetFeature.jpg

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 May 2016 23:57 (nine years ago)

Now that you bring it up, I would totally fly out there for a Genesis reunion:
http://36.media.tumblr.com/55e47305ecd8fc98db74928245d747be/tumblr_nh0pb5HbgB1sg1lzqo2_r1_500.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 00:14 (nine years ago)

when did I ever underestimate the love of money?

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 00:56 (nine years ago)

like this isn't a cash grab, this is someone laying in bed at night after devising cash grab schemes all day thinking "what if I just... took all the cash at once?"

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 00:57 (nine years ago)

i so want to go to this!

Bee OK, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:02 (nine years ago)

under 100 miles away, i just might.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:03 (nine years ago)

Ok so literally any show done with a professional promoter and venue, basically any show that's not like pass the hat basement punk or a benefit is done to make money why is this particular show being held to some weird standard?

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:21 (nine years ago)

i'd ask the music publications that create "best albums/artists ever" lists, year after year, and have put these artists on them for decades!

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:37 (nine years ago)

searched google for "rolling stone best artists"

numbers 4, 2, and 1 were: the rolling stones, bob dylan, and the beatles. they booked the first two, and got the only touring member of the third

the high concept is literally "can we book the most popular/best artists ever"

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:43 (nine years ago)

i mean...festival promoters are always trying to come up with the best festival lineup they possibly can, and for a certain kind of consumer, these guys succeeded. that's...bad?

some dude, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:48 (nine years ago)

Revenge against the Boomers, I guess. But it only guarantees the same treatment 30 years down the road when Washed Out plays the future Oldchella.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:50 (nine years ago)

did you ever see the invader zim cartoon episode where he has tryouts for his "best friend"?

i mean, a bunch of really great artists, no buffer, sounds like complete overload! it's cool they're doing long sets, time to wander around, probably some breaks between acts

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:53 (nine years ago)

not bad as much as a possible misunderstanding, or different interpretation, of what is good

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:55 (nine years ago)

like when I get one of those prix fixe menus where you have your choice of several appetizers, a couple entrees, and dessert and like an idiot I choose the most fatty, savory option for all courses, wash it down with red wine, and feel like i'm gonna vom

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:57 (nine years ago)

It's the Roll 'Em Out Before They Die Tour. A little depressing, I guess, but that's life. I'd be disappointed if they didn't pass out LSD in the so people could embrace their mortality Huxley style.

I'm interested in what the Millennial version of Oldchella would look like, if society still exists in its current form at that point.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 02:02 (nine years ago)

depends on who's restrospectively seen as the canon by the celestial builders

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 02:06 (nine years ago)

OMG A BIG ROCK CONCERT I'M GONNA DIE OF ANGST

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 02:32 (nine years ago)

All of them are too afraid to invite Fogerty because his current live show would put them to shame (perhaps even Neil)

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 02:40 (nine years ago)

As soon as Frey was gone, the promoters were like "Thank God - we can finally do this show without those assholes."

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:38 (nine years ago)

I'm interested in what the Millennial version of Oldchella would look like, if society still exists in its current form at that point.

drake, lcd soundsystem, rolling stones, roger waters, neil young, roger daltrey & the who are you band

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 04:11 (nine years ago)

all of these artists have made great music. you just need to ignore the boomer industrial complex/critical hagiography establishment.

Treeship, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 04:18 (nine years ago)

they've all made bad music too, which adds to their charm.

Treeship, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 04:18 (nine years ago)

i'm kinda dying to know who turned them down. zeppelin? springsteen? the kinks? (i wish!)

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 04:23 (nine years ago)

Stevie Wonder.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 09:29 (nine years ago)

drake, lcd soundsystem, rolling stones, roger waters, neil young, roger daltrey & the who are you band

the rolling stones in 30 years? i could see that if they underwent experimental gene therapy or something. knowing how the world goes, we'd experience some disaster where the technology is lost, and the rolling stones are the only ones granted immortality. so each successive generation will get to watch them at their own oldchella. then one day thousands of years in the future when the earth is dying, each rolling stone will fly off to space to colonize their own planet, including Android Brian Jones and his mysterious Planet X. each millennium the 5 rolling stones take off from their planetary kingdoms to reunite on earth to stage the biggest show in the galaxy. that's how i see it working out, at least.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:39 (nine years ago)

like this isn't a cash grab, this is someone laying in bed at night after devising cash grab schemes all day thinking "what if I just... took all the cash at once?"

this gave me a really great lol, thank you

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:31 (nine years ago)

How will they determine who opens? They should just all play at once.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:29 (nine years ago)

the dead are supposed to have played their final final show right?

anyway, think the boomers will b p disappointed w/ modern times Dylan since it's not much like what the teaser/nostalgia might have them thinking

https://www.facebook.com/bobdylan/videos/10156802076230696/

seen him once in a huge venue, doesn't suit his style well imo

niels, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:30 (nine years ago)

What's a cash grab and what's a festival? Who decides

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, May 2, 2016 5:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed they do.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:36 (nine years ago)

All of them are too afraid to invite Fogerty because his current live show would put them to shame (perhaps even Neil)

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, May 2, 2016 10:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This might be the case if Fogerty's drummer was absolutely anybody other than Kenny Aaronoff (including, but not limited to, paramecium).

He's not ham-fisted; he's pig-roasting-on-a-spit-with-an-apple-in-its-mouth-fisted.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:48 (nine years ago)

I enjoyed larry appleton's last post

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:56 (nine years ago)

Ticket prices are out:
1 day pass General Admission: $199.
3 day pass General Admission: $399.
Reserved floor/grandstand: $699-$1,599.
Standing pit: $1,599.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:46 (nine years ago)

haw, "standing pit," sounds great.
$399 really isn't *terrible* -- doesn't it cost that much to see the stones on their own these days? still way too rich for my blood.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:48 (nine years ago)

pit is gonna be a madhouse of angry rich people throwing elbows to get closer to the stage, very american psycho workout chic

ulysses, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:50 (nine years ago)

seriously, security will maybe wallow in if somebody goes underfoot but there are gonna be a lot of free for all alpha males NEEDING to be up close to get that guitar pick

ulysses, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:51 (nine years ago)

Average daily high temp in Indio in October is 92F. There are gonna be a lot of 65+ people with heatstroke.

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:58 (nine years ago)

God these old farts make me nauseous. I'ts such a sellout, not like all the acts who play coachella these days, they're doing it for the music man!!!

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:02 (nine years ago)

the boomers will b p disappointed w/ modern times Dylan

boomers have been known to be p disappointed w/modern times neil as well (meaning anytime neil's played an electric gtr in the past 30-ish years)

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:02 (nine years ago)

yeah if dylan sticks with his current set it'll be more than half material from the last 15 years ... which will be unique for this kind of thing.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:03 (nine years ago)

I'm just imagining Bono and Sting sitting their folornly waiting for their respective phones to ring.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:12 (nine years ago)

they'll be doing it in 5 years (or less), mark my words.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:15 (nine years ago)

they should hire the Hell's Angels as security

ejemplo (crüt), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:20 (nine years ago)

the fact that this is a seated event kinda undercuts the primary (sole?) appeal of this kinda festival -- which is that, if you get there early and really commit, you can generally get up-close to multiple acts for which up-close tix would ordinarily be prohibitively expensive.

but i also understand why it's seated, given what's likely to be the average age of the attendees.

dc, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:33 (nine years ago)

last show neil played down by the river for 35 minutes

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:36 (nine years ago)

saw him last year at a somewhat star-studded willie nelson tribute. he was the only one to play multiple songs and the only one to refuse to play with the house band. (i like to think this was in part due to his wonderfully uncooperative nature and not solely because of the nelson family connection.)

promise of the real a great backing band, though.

dc, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:43 (nine years ago)

this fest is also good cuz it's the last chance a lot of gen xers will get to rail against old people, enjoy the moment

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:08 (nine years ago)

dusting off my "hope i die before i get old" and "forever young" jokes

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:10 (nine years ago)

"when I'm 74"

Brad C., Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:59 (nine years ago)

Boomershoot 2016

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:08 (nine years ago)

OK, now there's a poster (apologies if it's huge):

http://www.billboard.com/files/media/rolling-stones-coachella-poster-2016-billboard-650-1548.jpg

Also, from the Billboard piece: "The campgrounds will be open, but heavy use is not expected, other than cabanas and 'glamping' similar to the top end VIP at Coachella; like Coachella, VIP packages and various shuttles and travel will be overseen by CID Entertainment, doing business as Valley Music Travel. Other enhanced experiences will include travel, dining, hotel/resort, and golf packages (there are even discussions of a tournament attached to the event). A release announcing the event promises 'an all-star lineup of world renowned chefs and 40 of the best restaurants from Los Angeles to New York.'"

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:36 (nine years ago)

Pretty sure $399 at the Stones at least gets you a seat.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:39 (nine years ago)

Wait, this is a seated event?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:39 (nine years ago)

why even hold this in the desert

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:40 (nine years ago)

Because these rock acts are Gods, and gods love the desert.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:44 (nine years ago)

Can'tgetwoodstock.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:45 (nine years ago)

Monterey Grandpop

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

Glastonburied

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:05 (nine years ago)

the location is kind of a red herring -- it's the desert, but unless it's windy, you'd only notice that due to the dryness. the absurdity of the coachella festival aside, if it's still like it was in 2008, it's an amazing venue. the polo field is immaculately fertilized and trimmed grass and you can very easily go barefoot. virtually no humidity, and avoiding the middle of the summer, means that it's hot during the day but in open air it's much, much better than any outdoor festival with 90 degree heat would be in the midwest. and after the sun goes down, it's in the 60s/70s (much like the heydays of this festival's attractions).

camping is great at those temperatures, and it's within commuting distance of palm springs, and even taking amtrak from los angeles is less than an hour iirc

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:54 (nine years ago)

Rolling Stones came last year and mostly filled up the Citrus Bowl. a whole buncha locals were like "omg who would pay to see THIS" and posted cherry-picked photos of a frail looking Keith Richards. lot of my friends (ranging from like 20s to Medicare-age) went and said it was great, albeit setlist was predictable, but still - if you've never seen em, who cares?

I mean the whole 'who wants to see them, they're old' applies more to former golden-throated singers whose voices have been ravaged by the cruel hands of Father Time, but Mick Jagger ain't exactly got that problem, and unless Keith Richards is decrepit enough to have handlers on stage move his hands into the correct chord positions, why not? kinda wished I'd gone.

the Who, on the other hand, Daltrey has sounded bad for decades and I could see being put off dude trying to croak out "Lurv, reign o'er maaaaaaay"

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:26 (nine years ago)

Neil's voice is still in pretty good shape. Lost some of it's super-high upper register on stuff like After the Gold Rush but that's about it.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:28 (nine years ago)

Average daily high temp in Indio in October is 92F. There are gonna be a lot of 65+ people with heatstroke.

― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Tuesday, May 3, 2016 10:58 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

each band required to inform standing pit folk of nearest medical tents before beginning their set

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:31 (nine years ago)

xpost yeah, lots of these acts are still capable

tho omg at this, yuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Ktjo9s8f8

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:33 (nine years ago)

so this is probably the single most unpunk thing in music history right

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:34 (nine years ago)

it's funny how a similar thing w all the OG punk bands is basically impossible cuz too many people are dead (Ramones, Joe Strummer, etc.)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:35 (nine years ago)

Daltrey sounded very iffy for most of the '00s, but this year and last, he's sounding great (though, tbf, the climactic "Won't Get Fooled Again" scream is on tape). I last saw them in March, and he was hitting notes he couldn't hit in 1989.

There is one reason to not miss the Who: Townshend's playing. He's been exploring this insane Coltrane-esque fingerpicking thing since the late '90s. The setlist won't surprise you, but his playing will.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:36 (nine years ago)

doesn't McCartney sing all of his songs in their original key?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:39 (nine years ago)

hmm yr right, this actually sounds p good! long way removed from the underwhelming Super Bowl

actually might be interested in seeing The Who these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuDkDm1FVDY

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:42 (nine years ago)

xpost - yeah which is part of the problem. fans will give you leeway on that and would be amazed what one mere full step opens up when your chords are aging. fuck authenticity - sure, lowering the key too much will rob a song of some intensity, but I prefer not having anxiety every time you get to a high note.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:43 (nine years ago)

has any musician ever raised keys of a song live?

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:43 (nine years ago)

the opening act shd be this Tom Schiller film from SNL '77

http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/550/The_Acid_Generation_Where_Are_They_Now/#.VykAIIQrJhE

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:48 (nine years ago)

Ha, actually, the Who raised "My Generation" to A for decades...until last year, when it was lowered to G (which is its key on the record anyway).

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:49 (nine years ago)

Weird, I saw the Who tour Quadrophenia a couple of years ago, and it seemed like Pete was ceding a lot of his playing and vocals to his brother. They sounded great, though. Pino and Zak (egad, Ringo's son is 50!) a great replacement section.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:11 (nine years ago)

Speaking of which, it's not too late for all the Beatle kids to get in on this! This is basically Sean Lennon's wheelhouse: Coachella, funny hats, rich people and models plus a surviving Beatle and another Beatle's son. Get Ringo here, Dhani, Julien, um, Paul's son, Lenny Kravitz and Joss Stone, and it will be one for the ages!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:15 (nine years ago)

Pete will let Simon do rhythm parts, and occasionally a lead line, but Pete takes all the solos. Simon did take a significant chunk of what used to be Pete vocals on the '90s and '12 Quad tours; Pete couldn't really hit those notes anymore.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:18 (nine years ago)

So you're saying what Pete currently does during the solo section of "Won't Get Fooled" is ... on purpose?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:21 (nine years ago)

Maybe I'm thinking of Who Are You? Anyway, looked up a couple of clips and even Pete is playing better than he did a couple years back, and he was fine then.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:23 (nine years ago)

I saw a Rolling Stones cover band that was decent once, but Mini Kiss opened for them and I arrived too late to see them. Mini not-Gene Simmons stuck out his tongue and flipped me off, though.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:09 (nine years ago)

shit, and apparently Mini-Gene died. See your idols while you still can, folks

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:11 (nine years ago)

He's been exploring this insane Coltrane-esque fingerpicking thing since the late '90s. The setlist won't surprise you, but his playing will.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, May 3, 2016 2:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh he def waxed poetic about fahey in the bbc doc maybe it's coming out in his playing now

Atomic Punks the DLR era Van Halen tribute band rules

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:11 (nine years ago)

Musical Box, the Genesis one, is so good even Genesis is a fan. They even had, for a while (still?) a balding left-handed drummer-singer Phil impersonator! That's got to be tough, to find a guy who looks like Phil, sounds like Phil, plays drums left handed and is actually really good.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:26 (nine years ago)

lol... i saw them once, he sang lead vocals on one song near the end of the show and then when the peter gabriel guy came back out, someone in the audience shouted 'be careful, he's good, he might take your job' and it was a funny genesis-joke for all

• (sleepingbag), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:58 (nine years ago)

Aw cuet :)

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:30 (nine years ago)

musical box are fantastic, I've seen them three times now doing different tours.

akm, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:37 (nine years ago)

apparently several of these pink floyd tribute bands are great, since the main attraction at a pink floyd show is the lights, lasars, and atmosphere.

akm, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:37 (nine years ago)

I was wondering how Roger Waters became a legit stadium stand-in for Pink Floyd, but then again an Australian Pink Floyd band sold out a 4,000-seat theater in my town.

Standing pit: $1,599

GET IN THE PIT

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 23:40 (nine years ago)

Where will everyone stay? Old person camping?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 00:55 (nine years ago)

Roger Waters toured Dark Side and toured The Wall. Both of those were pretty major.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 00:58 (nine years ago)

Same place they stay for YXChella? I'm staying in Palm Springs (hypothetically speaking).

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 04:50 (nine years ago)

The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, the Who, Roger Waters and Neil Young

I saw most of these at festivals and they were generally pretty underwhelming. Paul McCartney was good when he was playing Beatles songs, but then he'd talk between songs and it was like listening to a really uncool uncle. Bob Dylan was absolutely terrible. The Who were mediocre, although seeing them in lashing rain at the end of a very tough Glastonbury probably didn't help. Roger Waters was actually pretty great in Roskilde doing Dark Side. I can see the Rolling Stones doing a good show though, and Neil Young annoying the boomers with 2 hours of howling feedback.

the_ecuador_three, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 08:07 (nine years ago)

Waters @ Roskilde was amazing for the Dark Side part and Shine On, but his solo material and political speaches were silly - I liked the Dylan show (1st time I saw him), but agree completely that his sets aren't meant for stadiums

2006 was a good year @ roskilde:

http://www.festivalhistorik.dk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/koncertliste-2006.jpg

where are you from ecuador?

niels, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 09:56 (nine years ago)

It would be awesome of this line-up was McCartney, Dylan, Stones, Neil, Waters, Who and Tool.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:01 (nine years ago)

Waters, the only one of these I haven't seen, is easily odd man out imo. I would have subbed The Dead (obv) and shuffled the "openers." Then again, I also would have done crazy things like suggest that we not limit this thing to white/male/"rock" artists.

My festival...
Thu: Dylan -> Joni (ok, she's never performing again, fine; Lucinda and/or Los Lobos -> Bruce, maybe) -> Neil
Fri or Sat: Sleater-Kinney or Courtney Barnett -> PJ Harvey -> The Who -> Chuck Berry mini-set (ok, he's never performing again; Jerry Lee, maybe) -> Buddy Guy and guests (Clapton) -> The Stones
Fri or Sat: Vampire Weekend -> Paul Simon and friends (and/or Randy Newman with orchestra) -> Brian Wilson -> Stevie Wonder -> Macca
Sun: Aretha with Steve Cropper, Booker T, etc. -> Van Morrison -> this Santana/Shorter/Hancock "Mega Nova" thing -> The Dead

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:34 (nine years ago)

no Art Garfunkel no credibility

indie fresh (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:57 (nine years ago)

as a card-carrying baby boomer born in the late 50s - not an AARP card mind you - this does not appeal and not only because I saw the Who in 1975 etc etc

indie fresh (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:10 (nine years ago)

I've seen all of them except Macca and The Who, and Neil was by far the best. The Stones were fantastic during the first and last 20mins of their set and slumped into interminable soloing drag and dodgy new songs in the middle.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 15:40 (nine years ago)

where are you from ecuador?

Eh Ireland... the Ecuador Three was the brand name of an awful tent I owned that became an in-joke among my friends and then a name I put on some music.

Yes, that was a good Roskilde - me and my friends had gone to Glastonbury a couple of times before that but wanted somewhere warmer and drier. It was great fun booing Axl Rose when he came out an hour late too. Bob Dylan was the same Roskilde. I don't remember any speechifying from Waters tbh.

The year after we decided to go smaller and ended up in France for the two day Garden Nef Party which was about 60 euro including camping which was a great price for a host of bands that are sure to feature in Oldchella in 30 years time (plus some lousy blog rock):

http://www.01audio-video.com/garden-nef-party-festival-2007.jpg

The funny thing was the locals in that part of France didn't care for Arcade Fire at all, but were amazed that a band as famous as Muse would play their little town.

the_ecuador_three, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 16:30 (nine years ago)

just letting Eazy know i'm stealing his DJ Gene Hackman line

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 19:23 (nine years ago)

really, i think Beatty & Hoffman should revive their Ishtar duo for this.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 19:24 (nine years ago)

the strokes in 2016 are a nostalgia band p much

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:30 (nine years ago)

well yeah

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:52 (nine years ago)

way xxpost – The bald Phil Collins impersonator who played in the Musical Box left to start his own Phil tribute; and he was the singer in Daryl Stuermer's touring band, speaking of weird cash grabs.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 21:26 (nine years ago)

thanking you

The bald Phil Collins impersonator (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:05 (nine years ago)

thanking you again

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:06 (nine years ago)

Wait so the fake Phil Collins left fake Genesis to have a fake solo career? That is the greatest.

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:11 (nine years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/12/desert-trip-festival-sells-out-rolling-stones-paul-mccartney-roger-waters-bob-dylan-the-who-neil-young

Billboard estimates the gross revenues from ticket sales at $150m (£104m). Last year’s highest grossing festival was Coachella – run by the same people who are putting on Desert Trip, on the same site near Palm Springs, California – which made $84.26m over two weekends, according to Forbes. Desert Trip would be, comfortably, the highest-grossing event in music history.
As well as ticket sales, the organisers will be making money from ancillary activities such as selling licenses for catering and luxury camping. Desert Trip promises “over 30 culinary masterminds” providing food, as well as assorted catering packages starting at $129 per person per day.
Desert Trip, with its likely appeal to a prosperous audience of baby boomers, has charged premium prices. The 35,000 reserved seats for each weekend sold for between $699 and $1,599, while general admission was $399. The last tickets to sell out were the $199 day passes.

ulysses, Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:58 (nine years ago)

Bet it will also be on HBO or YouTube or somewhere, licensed for a ton.

Yung Chella (Eazy), Thursday, 12 May 2016 14:36 (nine years ago)

with $150 mil could they build a giant retractable air con dome over Coachella? that would rule

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 May 2016 14:55 (nine years ago)

Holy shit @ the $$$ from tickets

badg, Thursday, 12 May 2016 15:27 (nine years ago)

Holy shit at selling out so fast. I thought they were dreaming that they could get Coachella type attendance numbers for this.

nickn, Friday, 13 May 2016 01:15 (nine years ago)

So many old rich boomers in l.a. of course it sold out

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 May 2016 02:50 (nine years ago)

lol that the last seats to sell were the cheapest tickets.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 May 2016 03:14 (nine years ago)

Well, one day at $199 vs 3 days at $399, so really the weekend tickets were cheaper. Also, are we sure only boomers are buying these? I'll bet there's a good selection of 20-somethings in the mix.

nickn, Friday, 13 May 2016 04:09 (nine years ago)

the lines at the catering tents are going to be so miserable

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 13 May 2016 04:38 (nine years ago)

Neil still torches 90% of the rock bands that okay Coachella, plus Coachella is alreadyin the nostalgia biz with LCD and shit like that every year

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

LCD Soundsystem is an American rock band from Brooklyn, New York, formed in 2002.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 13 May 2016 05:09 (nine years ago)

exactly

tay.ai fan (seandalai), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:38 (nine years ago)

most years of coachella, back to the beginning, had a "reunion show" or semi-retro act in one of the headliner slots

most music festivals buffer their ticket sales in some way, but they really built on that formula. smaller ones in the midwest that are supposed to be "indie" or w/e end up having a jam band headliner or afternoon heavy with that shit because jam band ppl will indiscriminately go to anything with jam bands

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:51 (nine years ago)

On another note, I still have nightmares about the dude I talked to at coachella who was like, "yeah, Prince is pretty cool, not really my thing, but..." who then proceeded to wax philosophically about Jack Johnson and how cool his set was for about five minutes

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:53 (nine years ago)

The guy from LCD Soundsystem has more gray hair than anyone from Oldchella

beamish13, Sunday, 15 May 2016 20:13 (nine years ago)

I wonder how much the person who is paid to iron the acts before they go onstage is getting?

Turrican, Sunday, 15 May 2016 20:29 (nine years ago)

yeah nothing nostalgic about LCD who definitely sound nothing like the Talking Heads. "indie" ppl definitely won't "indiscriminately" go to anything with "indie" bands, and no "jambands" are "independent" or anything. festival-goers in general won't "indiscriminately" go to these package-deal festivals with often-competing acts playing typically-abbreviated sets in often-unideal conditions without examining whether the price (before lodging, etc.) is less or more than they'd pay for the acts individually. however overpriced or not, though (i fortunately or otherwise got shut out and don't patronize secondary markets), the oldchella tickets aren't substantially more expensive than those for coachella (which was $379 GA, $835 VIP this year) or most other major festivals, they were definitely bought by a healthy number of young people both for themselves and for family trips, and the cheapest (3-day) tickets were the first to sell, not the last.

"most years" of coachella have not "had a 'reunion show' or semi-retro act in one of the headliner slots" - that's only been true of 5-6 of 17 festivals. the first 8 iterations were straightforward "alternative rock" festivals on the lollapalooza model, albeit with a greater penchant for Euro(/pop?) acts. there then followed a few years in which a confluence of factors - bigger budgets, package deals with the parent company's touring division, and rising competition from other major festivals like decidedly non-"alternative" Bonnaroo - led to the booking of less "alternative"-identified and often older "classic-rock" or for lack of a better word "bro" (which may misdescribe the gender balance of their audience) headliners like Waters and Jack Johnson (and Prince) in '08, Macca (and perhaps The Killers) in '09, The Who (replaced by Jay-Z pre-announcement) in '10, Kings of Leon in '11, and perhaps Black Sabbath (replaced by Dre and Snoop pre-announcement) in '12. but the Coachella people were also capturing additional revenues by following the segmentation by taste and age of the market, spinning off Stagecoach in 2007, hosting the Phish festival in '09 and the Big 4 in '11, and planning from 2012 for non-Coachella festivals including this one in obtaining additional land and permits in Indio and elsewhere (a site in Orange County that's never really gotten off the ground, and the recent deal for Rose Bowl access that looks like it will lead to a new festival next June). simultaneously, the festival was establishing itself as a brand that could sell independent of the lineup, with 2010's attendance record followed by 2011's first-time sellout in less than a week (a week, lol), and the lineup accordingly got smaller-time and somewhat indier or at least newer at the top. my suspicion is that they could have booked any of the Oldchella acts at Coachellas (or Stagecoaches) between then and now, like when they semi-publicly negotiated with the Stones in what i'm not sure wasn't kabuki theatre for 2013, but held off with the intention to produce something of this sort because they didn't have to book any of those acts to sell out an increasingly young- (and less male-)skewing festival that wants to see relative contemporaries like Drake and Calvin Harris, who are going to sell to that audience for much longer, or so their people hope. even the older/reunion headliners they've booked since - AC/DC, GNR, Outkast, the Stone Roses - are relatively young (and as much or more 'hard' or 'alt' than 'classic") compared to these guys; it's Gen Xers and late boomers who are now the old folks. maybe this is a one-time thing, but i expect that you'll see more non-Coachella Coachellas, whether in Indio or Pasadena, with the likes of Stevie Wonder, Bruce/Tom Petty, Brian Wilson, etc. in following years.

normcore strengthening exercises (benbbag), Sunday, 15 May 2016 20:49 (nine years ago)

gab how many music fests have you been to

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:08 (nine years ago)

I need at least 1k words, no just posting digits here

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:09 (nine years ago)


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