The Liars - classic or dud

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not they've been around long, BUT!

to help settle any disagreements i may be having elsewhere...

The Liars. darlings of the brooklyn scene. yr opninions, please.

(NB: i love them)

― Robert James Fawcett (Robert Fawcett), Monday, 4 November 2002 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I love these boys. With the exception of maybe the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, they blow all the other NYC post-punk bands out of the water. A crazy mix of Captain Beefheart, the Pop Group, Gang of Four, the Minutemen added with pure rock n' roll energy. Total chaos. They have a new EP coming out next week called "Growing Fins to Make Us more Fish-like" Can't wait to hear that.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 4 November 2002 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)

They have potential, but aren't quite there yet, at least based on the cd. They might be the victim of their own hype, at least if they listen to it. That's my concern.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 4 November 2002 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

im so sick of new york city.

― g.winogrand (g.winogrand), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been far more impressed by !!! and Out Hud. I've also heard that Liars aren't nearly as amazing live as they ought to be. My cents, all 2 of them.

― Aaron W, Monday, 4 November 2002 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I think they're even more amazing live than on record (and the record's great) -- I like the mixture of icy detachment and manic spasticness, the tension and release. And you've got to see Angus to believe him. He's one of the more, er, unusual-looking lead singers. The music itself: tightly wound, hypnotic, sinister, scary, and hilarious.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

And you've got to see Angus to believe him. He's one of the more, er, unusual-looking lead singers.

God, I hate how Rolling Stone-ish these sentences sound. Sorry.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I really wanted to like them, really really...how could I not like a band with such great album and song titles? But I just found it far too jarring to listen to for any extended period. Then again, someone elsethread suggested that I'm really old, so maybe that's it.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)

aw...Sean you're old but its the inside that counts. and you have a rock n' roll heart. Don't let 'them' get to ya!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I feel the cold deep down in my bones.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes! The Liars!

Most everything to say about has been said already. I'm not hearing the Pop Group so much as Gang Of Four...but thats just my take. I hear some Wire in these boys and that can't be a bad thing.

The thing about the Liars is that punk tends to get stale after awhile. The Liars channel the best of punk and adds a generous dose of art rock ala Sonic Youth. Who cares what scene their from? Or what hype they get/got? If a group got a lot of press but made a good record, does that mean they I'm supposed to hold them to some arbitrary standard hype? That is ridiculous. Granted they aren't reinventing the wheel but they made a damn fine record.

And from what I heard, the Liars are blowing away every band they step on stage with...

― Juan, Monday, 4 November 2002 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone catch the Yeah Yeah Yeahs/Liars/Prosaics tour? The Prosaics are amazing.

I like the Liars album, but not the live show. We already have a Gibby Haynes, Angus! Be yrself!

― Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not hearing the Pop Group so much as Gang Of Four

...and the Fall, and maybe the Birthday Party. The sound is funnier than Gang of Four.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: the hype. I don't mean the hype is bad in and of itself. I'm more worried that the Liars will believe the hype, and think they are already the greatest band ever, and not do anything to try and get better. This worries me, because as mentioned above, I think they have more potential than ability right now, and I think they will be really good, and may possibly develop a more unique style, in the future if they keep growing.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Their split EP with Oneida should be interesting. The two bands covering each other's songs... It'll be out on Arena Rock shortly.

― Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw the Liars with the YYYs and Oneida in a vacant lot on Wythe St. and I liked them the best. Their singer had on a bright orange t-shirt and a stupid hat, he was very entertaining! The bass player needs to step it up though or just fade into the background, he's sort of caught inbetween being a total spazz and not, or something. I think he was good though, it was hard to tell. I didn't really pay attention to all the different instruments so much with them, it was enough to see the singer sort of ping pong off the lurchy rhythms and stuff. At one point he sings "I'll be your drug phase" *guitar squeal* "I'll be your sex-without-love phase" * chadda boonk scree* "Your shoot cops on sight phase!" and somebody right next to him goes "whoo! YEAH!" and he looks over like "wha?" like he couldn't believe THAT was the applause line. I think he intended it differently.

(Yancey, Oneida played too that day and I thought they couldn't have been more sludgy and unremarkable if they'd tried. they seemed lost in the haze. the sound system was atrocious but the Liars overcame it even when the mics were going out)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Oneida are hit and miss. Ultimately I like them more as people than I do as musicians. Anthem on the Moon and Each One Teach One both have great moments and they can be good live, but they aren't among my favorite bands. Basically I interviewed them for Pulse, the Tower mag, a couple of months ago and Kid Millions and I have become quasi-friends since. When I interviewed them it was a blast. Basically several hours of drunkenly making jokes. I was kind of mean to them about some of their stuff, but they were very good humored about it. And the piece that I wrote, which will run in December, pokes fun at them, referring to Fat Bobby's small dick, for example. Also, in the interview they wanted to say something mean about the Liars as a joke (the two bands are good friends), and at one point Bobby yells, "The Liars are the Spin Doctors of New York!" And I included that, noting that the Spin Doctors themselves are from New York. Good fun.

― Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm more worried that the Liars will believe the hype, and think they are already the greatest band ever.

Great point. It's already apparantly happened to the YYY's.

I saw the Liars with the YYYs and Oneida in a vacant lot on Wythe St. and I liked them the best.

You should've walked up the street and saw !!! and Les Savy Fav at another empty lot up the street on the same day.

***HIPSTERISM QUOTIENT EXCEEDED. USER HAS BEEN LOGGED OUT***

― Aaron W, Monday, 4 November 2002 20:45 (twenty-three years ago)

God that sounded smarmy. Didn't mean it to. Sorry.

― Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 4 November 2002 20:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Bad timing on my part Yancey... I exceeded my hipsterism quotient while you were writing my post. I always like when people write personal stories about bands and was just making fun of myself. I'm afraid we both suffer from the same hipsterism guilt, which sometimes manifests itself into...

***GUILT APPEASEMENT QUOTIENT EXCEEDED. USER HAS BEEN LOGGED OUT***

― Aaron W, Monday, 4 November 2002 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ugh, change "my post" to "your post"...

― Aaron W, Monday, 4 November 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

>>I saw the Liars with the YYYs and Oneida in a vacant lot on Wythe >>St. and I liked them the best.
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>You should've walked up the street and saw !!! and Les Savy Fav at >another empty lot up the street on the same day.

Was this the same day that Forcefield and Lightning Bolt played too? What a horrible weekend for me to be broke and unable to afford the gas to get to Brooklyn.

For the record, I think the Liars are pretty neat. When I saw them live I liked their newer songs better--more noisier and guitar focussed. I haven't heard the new EP nor the one forthcoming, though, so we'll see what I think once I get around to picking them up. The album's alright, but if I owned it I don't think I'd listen to it much. My girlfriend has it and so sometimes she puts it on at her place, and that's about the right dosage of them for me.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 4 November 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Was this the same day that Forcefield and Lightning Bolt played too? What a horrible weekend for me to be broke and unable to afford the gas to get to Brooklyn.

I'll risk getting logged out again. My cousin put together the Lightening Bolt et al show... What a great weekend to happen to be in town.

I haven't said anything constructive about the Liars in this thread at all. I'll put it this way: I do like They Threw Us In... a lot (except for those 30 minutes of looped noise at the end), but as a band my expectations are guarded and low (along the lines of what Nick said above) with the hopes that they completely surprise me and exceed their potential. I really wish I would've seen them when they played Detroit a few weeks back but I was completely exhausted. Maybe I'd be raving about them instead.

― Aaron W, Monday, 4 November 2002 21:34 (twenty-three years ago)

"This Dust Makes That Mud" is a greatsong.

― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 4 November 2002 22:01 (twenty-three years ago)

No it's not. But Mr Yr On Fire Mr is.

― Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 4 November 2002 22:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought they were absolutely terrible when I saw them, but I like all their influences so I may consider giving the album a shot.

(I think the YYYs are better than Sonic Youth ever were: justification on its way...)

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 4 November 2002 23:49 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...

Ummm, what is this I hear about Pat and Ron (bass and drums) leaving? And being replaced by a new Liar called Julian? Were those two men not absolutely integral to the Liars' sound?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

If true, that pretty much sucks. Maybe they just want to be like Gang of Four in EVERY single way possible?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Boo!

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

The bassist got the boot; hadn't heard about their drummer... Just close Angus!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh. As usual my comment was supposed to be more funny than snide, not more snide than funny but they never come out that way.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"the boot"? Their website suggests it was amicable, though there was a fair age difference between Aaron/Angus and Pat/Ron, not that it should matter. The bass playing is/was amazing, tho'.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Then again, spot the old guy

http://citypaper.net/articles/2002-09-05/music3-1.jpg

Ageist

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Ron and Pat are indeed no longer in the band, but I'm not sure who else is recording/playing with Angus and Aaron. I know that the band is very much intending to avoid repeating themselves musically -- I believe that the three songs on "Atheists, Reconsider" were recorded by Aaron and Angus on their own, but I have no idea what the new album will sound like.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

If they were smart, A&A should sign up the rhythm section from the Prosaics. (and the two bands are good friends!)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

This picture was taken moments after he was sacked on account of baldness...

OK, not really.

If that really is the reason they were booted, may I (as someone who is sitting beneath a huge "they threw us all in a trench..." poster as he writes) say that it could be a huge mistake? Time will tell.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Yanc3y, are the Prosaics no more?

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

prosaics alive and well and recording in connecticut.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, right, with Peter Katis, right? Hi Lauren.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

regarding liars personnel changes: julian, an old friend of aaron's, has taken over on drums, and last i heard one of the members of young people was playing with them as well.

(hi, rthacher!)

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

As ever, lauren, you prove yourself a reliable and untouchable source of information.

http://www.thebeehive.org/search/images/ask-jeeves-header.gif

For a fee, will you page me with news and updates?

Actually, scratch that, I don't have a pager.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i wasn't implying that the prosaics were done, just that bill & joshua play really really well together

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

help me, nordicskillz! i'm turning into the indie louella parsons.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

is the recording self-financed, lauren? (i.e. are they sticking with their plan to self-release an ep and then finally sign with someone? i haven't talked to joshua in ages...)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"Well, I was at the launch party for [x] on ArenaRock, and who should I see courting, but..."
http://www.themediadrome.com/Images/movies/louella_parsons.gif

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

are any liars in oneida? did they collaborate on a record or just do the one ep covering each other songs?

― s-laughter, Friday, 9 May 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

that's still the plan as far as i know, yanc3y.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

are any liars in oneida? did they collaborate on a record or just do the one ep covering each other songs?

The latter.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Liars-Oneida just did that one EP. Arena Rock's supposedly considering making a series of records like that.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

No Liars in Oneida. Or vice versa.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

like i said, nordicskillz, HELP!

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

havent heard the ep, but my friend played me a tape he swears was a collaboration featuring members of both groups.

― s-laughter, Friday, 9 May 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

they are pals, and who knows what goes on during the wee hours of the morning in the oneida loading dock-reharsal space!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The other split so far released in Arena Rock's EP series is The Album Leaf/OnAirLibrary. Don't know what the future plans are for the series.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Beautiful Women + Terrible Beats + Boring Songs = OnAirLibrary

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

s-laughter, the Liars/Oneida EP contains each group covering one of the other's songs -- that might be what your friend played you.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw OnAirLibrary at Brownies once, but all I remember is that they took FOREVER to set up. Like an hour. And they were not the headliner (I don't remember who played last -- it was late...).

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Beautiful Women + Terrible Beats + Boring Songs = OnAirLibrary

Right, that's on my "avoid" list then. Not that I haven't got love for beautiful women.

― Barry White (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

It's the two girls from the cover of the Boggs album and a Ryan Adams-lookalike who I see around the city ALL THE FUCKING TIME. The dude's stalking me.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

that guy is EVERYWHERE!

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha, I like the Boggs album, but I was confused by the cover when I realized that there were no ladies in the group. Shouting out to "Gilded Palace of Sin", maybe? (along w/the obvious Faces rip.)

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

you see him too, lauren?!? every fucking street corner he stands like he's posing for a vanity fair spread -- sunglasses, the denim tuxedo, hip cocked to the side. i don't like him.

boggs i don't like. one of the boggs dudes has a new band called cause for applause, which is actually pretty good. (or maybe the boggs dude isn't in it, but he's on the cover of their demo...)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

New York New York.

I quite like The Boggs album, never listen to it tho'.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Mostly, I love the playing and the recording of the Boggs album; I'm not crazy about the singing -- it seem too obviously affected for my taste. Is cause for applause a similar sound as the Boggs (ie, bluegrass/acoustic/folky stuff)?

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

like i said, yanc3y, that bro is everywhere. he's probably stalking both of us. i always want to kick him in the shins.

cause for applause features david, former bogg, on bass. they rule. people are calling them a fall sound-alike, but they remind me just as much of oblivians (and that is a good thing). i used to think that the boggs were eh, but the new recordings are FANTASTIC. unfortunately there's a lot going on that at this point they can't replicate on stage.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

The Boggs were decent when they opened up for the Rapture last weekend. I like the slide-Dobro stuff. The noisy bits were a bit much though.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, Cause for Applause is pretty much a straight Zakary Thaks imitation. Garage rock, but really heavy on the "garage." I listened to it a couple times and it wasn't bad, even though I'm understandably bored of that sound.

I'm very particular about bluegrass/mountain music, so the Boggs toying with it irked me somewhat irrationally. However, the stuff I've heard that's marked for the second record is really great, I must admit. (Kid A with banjos is how they're pitching it)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

lauren r u me?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Yanc3y, she's smart! :p

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Kid A with banjos = Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, doesn't it?

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

why u gotta be a h8r, skillz?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Jus kidding, yanc3...

Kid A with banjos

Don't tell me this is on a press release or something...

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

why u gotta be a h8r

I don't know, but it stops right here, I promise.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

No, not a press release. The Arena Rawk folx and I were talking about them and this phrase was used. Take that pitch to Lost Highway, stat!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

If I channelled yanc3y and lauren, I'd have me a proper ILM CNN style muzik news/reviews service.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

nordicskillz, i'll cut you in on the franchise if you help me get it off the ground.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmmm...

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...

classic or dud?

― athos magnani (Cozen), Sunday, 16 November 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

closer to dud than classic.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 16 November 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i prefer my retro shucknjive with hooks and such

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 16 November 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

checking itunes it tells me i like these songs: 'grown men don't fall in the river just like that...', 'mr you're on fire mr.', and 'loose nuts on the veladrome'.

― athos magnani (Cozen), Sunday, 16 November 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

classic, if only for "tumbling walls buried me in the debris".

― jed (jed_e_3), Sunday, 16 November 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

new album = utterly classic. current shows = utterly totally and completely classic.

― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 16 November 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

is the new album soulseekable yet? what's the title?

― flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Sunday, 16 November 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

One of my favorite bands of the last coupla years. Please do not tease me with this talk of a new album! I need facts!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 16 November 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

(pssst! Lauren! Have you heard it???)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 16 November 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Saturday 15th: Liars finally came back to the UK, aided by KaitO and Punish The Atom. PTA were "okay" (snore). KaitO were really quite good, and much better and more visceral than I remember their old records being. Plus, they had a guitarist who gave everyone earache with his effects pedals. Liars were something else. I think they alienated a good two-thirds of the crowd, judging from talking to folks afterwards. They played no recognisable old songs, and quite possibly no tunes. Instead, they played what must be virtually the entirity of their forthcoming album, which was a lot of experimenting with noises, samples, signals and loops, both pre-recorded and manipulated live - definitely a real departure from their old sound. Coming out next February, it's going to be a tremendously interesting trip. It would appear that the Liars have been listening to a lot of Throbbing Gristle of late, because now they sound like they would be far better suited to sharing a stage with the likes of the Boredoms, The Dead C, or Black Dice than all this post-punk bollocks (here I go again) that they've been lumped in with to date. Maybe someone has at last taken the *good* stuff from the No-Wave experiments of the early '80s and decided to take it further, rather than just using dancey beats and tinny guitars. So yeah, I loved it. A fair few other people were pretty angry at paying a tenner for what was "supposedly all artsy and experimental but actually just bollocks really" (one disgruntled punter at the cloakroom afterwards)."

- David Stockwell, Diskant.net

W.T.F.

― athos magnani (Cozen), Sunday, 16 November 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

gah! still going?

― jed (jed_e_3), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh of course! sounds right up my street

― athos magnani (Cozen), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

to me, they sound like a post-Glitch Bad Moon-era Sonic Youth scoring horror-movie soundtracks on pots and pans.
this is, of course, ultra deluxe classic.

― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

right, ok.

― jed (jed_e_3), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm told the new one is very good, tho even more hook-starved. a copy is on its way to me, and i can't wait to hear it. i really dug the first disc. "mr yr on fire mr" in particular.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Sunday, 16 November 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

hooks schmooks.

― hooko hookington (nordicskilla), Sunday, 16 November 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

give it lots of listens... its quite dense.

― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 16 November 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

More words about the new record, please...ya'll are getting me psyched for it but I can't find it on slsk. Some specifics would be really nice.

― Simon H., Sunday, 16 November 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

omg live omg

― athos magnani (Cozen), Monday, 17 November 2003 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i almost shouted 'yanc3y str1ckler!!!' at thm tonight tho dunno why. have you heard kaitO yanc3y? my heart ws erect again.

― athos magnani (Cozen), Monday, 17 November 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i dunno kaito, david. but it sounds like i should.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 17 November 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I can give you their CD if you're interested, Yanc3.

― hstencil, Monday, 17 November 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh, i like kait0.
that description upthread of the new liars live show is right on. i loved the show i saw but i'm not sure if it went over that well in general. it's hook-starved, i suppose, but i find it rhythmic at the most gut level.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 17 November 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

all my friends like them but i find them hard to listen to :/

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Monday, 17 November 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i'd love to hear it, stence.

hi lauren.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

OMFG! fucking fucking incredible live tonight. fuck. so good.

― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

the main guy in liars is equal parts nick cave, nick drake, bill callahan, and the psycho guy from 'manhunter'.

― athos magnani (Cozen), Monday, 17 November 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Did anybody else see the thing in the last Vice about bands who have f'd over their labels? The last entry is about Liars vs. Gern Blandsten, and it says "it's still unclear who's to blame for this one" or something like that... this was the first I'd heard of this split. I thought Mute just paid Gern a bunch of $$ for the Trenches album. Anyone else have any inside poop?

― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay...so for people like me who can't wait to hear this thing...does it have a sound comparable to any of the post "They Threw Us.." EPs?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

im so sick of new york city.
-- g.winogrand (unfckwithabl...), November 4th, 2002

― Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

re: the inside poop, gern blandsten definitely did NOT get fucked over.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

certainly live, nordic, they didnt seem to be playing anything resembling old Liars stuff but i liked it m,uch more than their recorded output.

― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i just got the newie today, they were wrong so we drowned. it's out there, i saw them when they were in sydney last month i enjoyed the shows, most of which comprised of songs from this. it is gonna take some listening though. yeah, it's hook starved....

― glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)

who needs hooks?

― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...

CLASSIC.

― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The new album (uh, newish) played live is a lot more accessible than it is on record. I saw them in Philly last November, right after Thanksgiving, and they absolutely destroyed. Also they let a 10 year-old junior-scenester up on stage to play toms on 'they don't want your corn, they want your kids', which was just somehow so appropriately creepy.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It still might be my favorite album of the year. such a neeerrrddd

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish the entire album was as good as "There's Always Room on the Broom." That might be my single of the year, but I hardly ever listen to the rest.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"BROKEN WITCH" IS THE MOST EXCITING SONG OF THEYEAR

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonny A. OTM, I think that song is amazing. When I listened to it for the first time, I was blown away. I don't think anything could approximate creeping dread with such catchy success as that track does.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 10 September 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I'm baffled. I saw them at a Mute showcase here a few months ago, and though I could see the influences, I thought they reduced it all to dreary Goth sludge, and believe me I know whereof I speak. I started sniggering uncontrollably when the lead vox thing started chanting "Blood, blood, blood . ." and had to leave. Really, been there, bought the T-Shirt etc. etc. I'm sure there's a 12 inch by Live Skull or someone in the dead end of my collection with the same miserable schtick on it.

But then, they had the misfortune to come on after the triumphantly absurd Pink Grease. Hiding to nothing.

― Soukesian, Friday, 10 September 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

classic!! the last song on the album is genuinely spooky

― Vic (Vic), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

sucko time!

― big chaki (chaki), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

one of the few recent albums that i've heard where i like every song. the nasty synth-tone on 'there's always room on the broom' is one of the best things i've heard all year as are the ridiculous yelping vocals.

they were also quite fabulous and charming in concert. at the end of the show, angus said something like "um, encore? pretend that we are leaving the stage!" and they went to the side of the stage and hid behind an amp for a couple seconds before popping back out and playing a couple more songs. earlier in the show, angus also said 'anyone can do this! you can do this!' while strumming an out-of-tune chord on his guitar in rather half-assed fashion. pretty infectuous & fun all around, and they got one of the better responses from the crowd that i've ever seen a band get at that club.

― 6335, Friday, 10 September 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't get the poor reviews of 'We Were Wrong...'AT ALL. I mean, it's not really song-y but it's engaging and not at all "inaccesible". To answer the question, CLASSIC.

― La Monte (La Monte), Friday, 10 September 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

not really into liars.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Saturday, 11 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

latest album sounds like beck went back in time to the early 80s and collaborated with dome aka bruce gilbert and graham lewis then came back into time and released the album. its no sea change but its better than the other beck albums certainly lol

― SGHJUYRHTGL, Saturday, 11 September 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

they effing killed it in são paulo last night. photos upcoming on ye olde weblog soon.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't get the poor reviews of 'We Were Wrong...'AT ALL. I mean, it's not really song-y but it's engaging and not at all "inaccesible". To answer the question, CLASSIC.

What I don't get is why nobody ever seems to point out that it sounds a whole hell of a lot like (related and well-reviewed band) Flux Information Sciences. One of the strangest things I've encountered in criticism...it's like reading endless reviews of the Raveonettes that never mention The Jesus & Mary Chain.

― dlp9001, Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

they effing killed it in são paulo last night. photos upcoming on ye olde weblog soon.

This is almost like a parody of a Philip S post! ;P

― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the jesus and mary chain are extremely well-known, whereas flux are not. i agree that there are some similarities (and flux were great in their brief-ish existance) but i'm not surprised that critics don't bother bringing up a band that maybe 1% of the readership would be familiar with.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm, didn't know Flux were so unknown. Too bad.

― dlp9001, Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

...but still, considering all the obscure bands that get referenced from time to time I'm amazed that the Flux connection has *never* been brought up (at least in any review I could find...spent a lot of time looking too).

― dlp9001, Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno, i'm just guessing (and thinking of larger publications, not indie media). i would always go to their shows, and they seemed to have a loyal following, but i assumed that their profile outside the nyc metro area was fairly low. i'd love to be wrong.

xpost

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, you're probably right, though I did notice that Karen O brings them up in interviews from time to time as a fave, so I'd assume there are some YYY fans who know them.

― dlp9001, Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, she does. she and nick were fairly good friends with flux, and there was a good community of ppl at that time who would always turn up at each other's shows.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

Classic.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

total fucking classic

― georges von pilt (monsieur wizard), Monday, 25 April 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

classico!

― jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 25 April 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

Classic. What's the new album like? Anyone heard it?

― Cracks (Crackity), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

It's good.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

EXTRA, EXTRA. READ ALL ABOUT IT

The Liars - Drum's Not Dead (2006)

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh. Right. Thanks.

― Cracks (Crackity), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Undeniably classic.

― cdwill, Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

7 new tracks on their myspace. sounds like rough mixes/demos but either way makes for an interesting listen.

http://www.myspace.com/liarsliarsliars

― oscar, Sunday, 9 March 2008 05:14 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Whats up with these guys? Anyone know? Their website now links to a screeprint design company and their MySpace doesn't appear to have been updated in over a year.

― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

Just a guess but probably laying low and writing something new and amazing that one of us is ready for yet?

― Nate Carson, Saturday, 18 July 2009 04:16 (sixteen years ago)

none, not one, haha.

― Nate Carson, Saturday, 18 July 2009 04:16 (sixteen years ago)

i think they're out of ideas.

i have no evidence to confirm this. besides their previous album.

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 18 July 2009 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA karl...arlk...rlka...lkar...
♥

― Turangalila, Saturday, 18 July 2009 06:51 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, that's pretty solid evidence. but hopefully this break indicates something new (though hadn't they recorded drum's not dead forever ago anyway?)

― Fetchboy, Saturday, 18 July 2009 11:51 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

/gasp, track from new album: http://www.thesisterworld.com/

i can't listen right now b/c i'm at the library, but someone report back to me and i'll trust your opinion completely

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

its good

― adorable cheese inscription (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:29 (sixteen years ago)

v. good

― Noodle. Tool. 2. Kool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:34 (sixteen years ago)

wow, this is awesome

― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:37 (sixteen years ago)

Dark gospel, heavy on the spiritual introspective side one minute and the next...
you are treading in some post-human labyrinth where the walls are made of satanic eyes and snakes writhing on cracked glass...

― oscar, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:37 (sixteen years ago)

great track

― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

uhhh getting a server error when i click on the download link and i really want to heard this!

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

don't like it

― too shart (am0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

that's pretty surprisingly good... only ever been underwhelmed by these guys in the past. I may have written them off in error.

― m the g, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

still can't listen to it but now i'm excited :D

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

post-human labyrinth where the walls are made of satanic eyes and snakes writhing on cracked glass

what i'd hoped for from the last album^

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

wasn't really into it. i keep hoping they'll do more repetitive weird-dark-groovy stuff, ala They Were Wrong and Drum's Not Dead.

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

Stoked for new album.

Just reminiscing how they were wrong, so we drowned is totally the shit. hold hands and it will happen anyway !!!!!!!

― wilter, Saturday, 26 December 2009 05:11 (sixteen years ago)

Couple more tracks on here:
http://thedecibeltolls.com/liars-sisterworld/

― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 26 December 2009 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

no talk about the new album Sisterword. it came out this week but have yet to hear it, am i missing anything ILM?

― Bee OK, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

oh it's Sisterworld and comes with a bonus CD.

― Bee OK, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

there's a thread called new liars al bum or something like that

― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

discussion on there

― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

oh will check that out and then see if i should seek this out.

― Bee OK, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

if you like liars you should. if you don't it won't change yr mind

― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:05 (fifteen years ago)

i own Drum's Not Dead and loved it, but haven't heard anything else by them.

― Bee OK, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:07 (fifteen years ago)

ok...sisterworld isn't really "the same" but you'll probably find value in it

― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:10 (fifteen years ago)

got this in the mail, today.
listened to it 5 times in a row. something about it just makes me happy.

― Creeztophair, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:14 (fifteen years ago)

is this better than their last record?

― ksh, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:19 (fifteen years ago)

ummm to soon to tell for me but i stan hard for that record; i think most people missed the "point" of it

― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:21 (fifteen years ago)

i will stan for "Pure Unevil" & "Protection," but that's about it . . .

― ksh, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:22 (fifteen years ago)

see i can't imagine digging pure unevil and not digging the rest of it--granted it's probably the best song on there but the whole thing of burying melody in cheap-ass postpunk....that is like the point of the record

― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:24 (fifteen years ago)

i wasn't in the mood for new Liars when the last one came out, so i never heard it. now seems like a good time and could go back instead of forward. if the new one is good then i would like new music.

― Bee OK, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:26 (fifteen years ago)

see i can't imagine digging pure unevil and not digging the rest of it--granted it's probably the best song on there but the whole thing of burying melody in cheap-ass postpunk....that is like the point of the record
― call all destroyer

i don't think i've touched the record since i bought it in 2007, but that was the thing . . . i felt like all of the other songs were *much* weaker than "Pure Unevil." again, haven't heard it in forever, but "Plaster Casts" just left me cold.

― ksh, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

saw them tour the record though, and they put on a good show!

― ksh, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

"Scarecrows on a Killer Slant" from Sisterworld sounds GREAT when blasted as loudly as possible, it's one of my fav Liars songs. "Proud Evolution" is another great one. I haven't had much time to give to the remix companion yet.

― I feel absolute embarrasment and humiliation within the msgbrd context (Z S), Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

^OTM. Except I love the rest of the album as well but those are the two stand out tracks.

Some of the remixes are predictably rubbish apart from Pink Dollaz, Thom Yorke, Melvins and Deerhunter.

― Doran, Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Angus has done us a predictably unhinged but enjoyable mix.

― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

really good,too early to label them as classic

― nakamura, Friday, 5 November 2010 02:26 (fifteen years ago)

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