― Tom, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ally, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― carsmilesteve, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kathleen, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The weeklies (NME, MM) were too expensive for too little interesting content - to me - so Select was my way of staying connected. Fell for Justine F. (her first cover, 1993, with cigar in her mouth) and blew 25$ for some compilation just cause it had "Stutter" on it. Wondered who was that funny-looking bloke called Jarv, who seemed to be such a Perv. I even ran a personal advert in the July 1994 issue (Brett on cover!), looking for indie english roses/lovely, frail penfriends (the usual). Got, wait, guess.... 57 replies! Had great relationships with a few of these... I even met one, Eva, in september 1995, in NYC. She had made me a tape with "Common People" and "Underwear" live at some festival before it was released. So Select actually changed my life! And if Madeleine reads this, well, get in touch with me, I love you.
― simon rekkit, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― masonic boom, Tuesday, 5 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The Select magazine I knew and loved from '92-'95 has been gone a long, long time. But during those years it was absolutely vital. It would have *killed* me to miss an issue -- there was so much great writing! What other magazine would feature Julian Cope and 2 Unlimited in the same issue?
In all seriousness, does anyone actually read music magazines anymore? I haven't read a music mag (or weekly, for that matter) in some time - - it seems like the online good writers with anything to say are now found online.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 5 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
N.
― Nick Dastoor, Wednesday, 6 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Bill
― Bill, Wednesday, 6 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
In the mid-90s Select seemed to grow fat on Britpop and its hideous paraphernalia (kids' telly references, referring back to the 60s every fucking five minutes) though there was still good writing in there if you looked hard enough. But if it found a new band to cover regularly after the Britpop era, I can't think of it. It lost the plot, slipped into irrelevance, and ultimately dug its own grave - those "Wow! MP3! Wonderful! What is it?" features it ran right at the end being the absolute final straw.
Another of the old gatekeepers of British music crumbles. For myself, I can't wait for the rest of them to follow it into oblivion.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 6 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Well, not quite, since that's very untypical of me. I bought Hip-Hop Connection for the first time in nine months (having given up because it was so atrociously-written and tearing itself apart over "authenticity", with an unpleasant "get out, you don't belong here" gatekeeper's element, countered simultaneously by such over- commercial gestures as putting Mariah Carey on the cover) mainly on the strength of Outkast's front cover appearance; I was surprised by how good it was, though it's still capable of this:
"The popularity of regional rap outside of its native surroundings has also flourished (yeah? so?) and the original ethos of the old Bronx masters has been lost as the out-of-towners move in (yeah? so?). Mystikal represents everything that's wrong with rap today (no, you do). Complex, intelligent flows replaced by weak, nonsensical barking (well?) and beats that owe more to a synth than a sampler (yeah! Keep Music Live! Join the Musicians' Union!). It's sad to say (no it isn't; music that does not move forward dies) rap today isn't the same bitch many fell in love with in the past."
I'm sorry. That was purely an irritation quote. But it's an example of how, in the old print media, it's so difficult to find the good stuff (and there's still some of it in HHC, despite everything), with all the reactionary nostalgic shite you have to get through.
I also bought Uncut despite largely being bored by its contents, and The Wire largely on the strength of it featuring a users' guide to British folk rock (which is absolutely superbly-written, and indeed the whole magazine seems to me not so much dull, as musically removed from my main interests; Dave Tompkins's description of "Stankonia" is possibly the best I've read, especially condensed into so little space, and the description of Video Vibe is especially good).
So in summary; I still keep an eye on the music press, it's just that it's gradually and slowly become less relevant to me. It's a side interest, not my main source of information, not really now not any more.
Stupid charts of influences and connections (what's cool / who's twatted who / where did nu-wave-of-new-r&bJerkinsDre come from) laid out in absolutely unreadable ways, with little pictures and different coloured lines running all over the page. This is FUN.
A section just for lists of cool records--album tracks, novelty records, US import indie singles: just knowing that there are people who consume records this way is GOOD.
Celebrity columns by utter fuckwits (that dick from Mogwai and chancer in chief John Moore) to reassure you that being in a band is not actually that cool, because you clearly have no time to develop some of the skills I value--rational thought, the ability to string a sentence together coherently, something interesting to say, powers of critical judgement.
And yes, David Quantick is, or has been, God.
― alex thomson, Friday, 8 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Nevertheless actual pop stars' contributions do remind you how stupid most people become after a year or two in the industry, and of how fortunate we are to be outside it. They're good for that much, at least :).
Quantick lost his God status forever with his unbelievably cliched euology to "Revolver" in Q's wretched English issue. I do often wonder exactly what he did in the various Chris Morris programmes, though ...
-- "There was anarchy in the streets of Budleigh Salterton that night."
― Confluence, Friday, 8 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― OleM, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
What does 'home counties' mean in this phrase?
― youn, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― youn, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
That Cole line you quote sounds like a Pinefox idea, it really does. Not surprising considering who wrote it :).
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
The first issue I bought was from Nov 94. The cover is missing but it's quite possibly the finest single issue of a music magazine evah! (I'm gonna get the most evah!s into a post evah!)REM main feature (not as worthy as you'd think - Neil Cooper gets them to drop their pants), Portishead on soundtracks, Kylie, Flavor Flav and his troubles, Sven Vath, Laibach! Then at the back there's a home beautiful piece with Poison Ivy and Lux Interior showing off their amazing house. It's possibly the greatest double spread in British pop mag history, evah!
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
I think the first issue I ever bought had an article called "The Compleat Blur" which was a two part series chronicling every single Blur track ever released up until after Parklife - absolute brilliant writing all the way through. There was a very well informed dance/clubbing section too, something a lot of indie zines will shun these days; music reviews were diverse and interesting.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
On the subject of FT, the 94 issue has a column by Graham Linehan! On Beards! It just gets better and better.
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
They weren't great, but they were better than Sleeper. And she was hott.
http://www.re-played.com/images/tn_Salad_-_Granite_statue.jpg
The cornflake packet issue was pop art genius. Keith Drummond was the art director then. We salute you sir!
Btw Mark, if you want the first part of the Blur thing I can scan it and gmail it to you. Just send me a good mp3 in return. :)
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
Oh, offtopic, remember when Loaded did about 50 alternate covers, one month? Yeah, it was the 'jump the shark' moment, but boy did they jump that dang shark there!
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
I loved Salad's version of Dream A Little Dream Of Me on the Warchild Help compilation. Salad. I mean, really - who calls their band Salad?
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
Cool, I'll scan it all later on.
Not a huge Blur fan really. Any other goodies?
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
wow, this is true!
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
like?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
― Stewart Smith (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)
fact: their first ever mention of B&S was making fun of the cover of Tigermilk (when it first came out I suppose).
― Viz (Viz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RVTEIJ5HOY7F2U26LTTHVS7NNhttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0Q369U39LZB2E22341PAGQBBZUhttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1AVJLKUAMHHGX1TIZIYLO4PP90http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20504PFE90RM50QHAR0IXFXX0Hhttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2VSL8QXZLZYV92Z6FK40EL5L4Chttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KN6TH3T3WMYT1DKBOE0BDJJFBhttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3I9N1EM95L7YM3QKUHC0Q7TYXOhttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=178SAG39PIKJM0474SA34RTQHBhttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=198VJTIDQ9JZI1ARNJ4PPJM7S1http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13HKYRH8KN0TW3L9XKZ302U4K2
― Stewart Smith (stew s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)
serious political analyst john harris of course.
― Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Thursday, 21 July 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
pleasepleaseplease!!!!
― piscesboy, Friday, 18 November 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 18 November 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago)
!@!!
― UART variations (ex machina), Sunday, 21 January 2007 04:15 (eighteen years ago)
― White Dopes on Punk (Bimble...), Sunday, 21 January 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), July 21st, 2005.
There's still time
― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 21 January 2007 09:27 (eighteen years ago)
― Jonesy (Jaap Schip), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)
select was a fine mag.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Sunday, 21 January 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)
― The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:21 (eighteen years ago)
Graham Coxon had "the Right to POP"
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 January 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)
― Fjord Spellman (fjord), Monday, 22 January 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 January 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)
Raw Magazine was a biweekly heavy metal magazine published by EMAP.The magazine was a rival to Kerrang! which was published by the people behind Sounds. However, when the publisher of Sounds and Kerrang! decided to concentrate on trade papers such as Music Week, the Kerrang! brand was sold onto EMAP who decided it was the stronger brand amongst Metal fans.Due to this, Raw Magazine was relaunched in the mid 1990s as a biweekly sister magazine to EMAP's monthly Select, with its musical focus shifted from that of metal to that of Britpop. This relaunch confused longterm readers, and with sales falling, the magazine did not manage to survive into the 2000s. (it didn't even make the next year)
The magazine was a rival to Kerrang! which was published by the people behind Sounds. However, when the publisher of Sounds and Kerrang! decided to concentrate on trade papers such as Music Week, the Kerrang! brand was sold onto EMAP who decided it was the stronger brand amongst Metal fans.
Due to this, Raw Magazine was relaunched in the mid 1990s as a biweekly sister magazine to EMAP's monthly Select, with its musical focus shifted from that of metal to that of Britpop. This relaunch confused longterm readers, and with sales falling, the magazine did not manage to survive into the 2000s. (it didn't even make the next year)
SELECT, the early 90s Britpop bible, is closing down. Is anyone sad? Does anyone else remember it with fondness? Has anyone got anything to say at all?-- Tom, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00
-- Tom, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00
If it is to blame for Britpop do people still mourn for Select?
― Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:56 (seventeen years ago)
It dug deeper.
It's the one magazine that got closed down while it was getting better. (The free CDs were the only ones worth bothering with at the time)
― Mark G, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)
It was fine until the last editor ruined it.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:04 (seventeen years ago)
It's the one magazine that got closed down while it was getting better.
Don't agree with this at all TBH, but even in what I'd say were its best years (94-95), it covered a lot of total shit and if ILM had been around at the time it probably would have got clowned more otfen than not
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:42 (seventeen years ago)
I think I preferred Select to any of it's near-contenders, be that Vox, Q, or Uncut later on.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:44 (seventeen years ago)
I can't really remember Vox wasn't it essentially a glossier monthly NME?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:48 (seventeen years ago)
It was IPC's forerunner to Uncut.
The problem with music magazines today is that they don't come in boxes with free packets of Rice Krispies.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)
Early Vox: glossy (and spined for the first few years, since someone mentioned them on ILM today) monthly aiming somewhere between the Select and Q markets, a little less retro-obsessed than Q but not as colourfully anarchic nor as indie as Select. It probably wanted to be seen as timeless and authoritative rather than caring about current scenes; it was wordy and slightly (but not completely) humourless; it had separate reviews sections after the main vaguely-rock-stuff-here bit for world music, some token dance/electronic stuff but mostly it didn't seem too interested in that, maybe blues, films? I don't remember. Free CDs fairly often, which were slightly confused attempts to cover all the bases but ended up a bit dry and worthy, like the magazine.
It was the first music magazine I read semi-regularly, mainly for the free CDs (a huge barely-portable Discman was my new most treasured possession) but I liked it, possibly because it explained stuff more than Select, which treated everything like a joke that I didn't quite feel in on yet.
Later Vox: got thinner, lost the spine, ditched CDs for tapes and tried to ape Select more closely. I was buying Select and the NME mostly by then.
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:32 (seventeen years ago)
-- Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
i remember this ===> aspies unite.
― banriquit, Thursday, 5 June 2008 16:49 (seventeen years ago)
1st time it contained anything decent in it?
― Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/
A load of issues scanned.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)
I don't remember some of their covers being quite so o_O: http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/cover4-219x300.jpg http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover1-236x300.jpg
― Stevie T, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
Weirdest picture of Ringo I've ever seen:
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover13.jpg
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:59 (fourteen years ago)
Looks like John Lennon impersonating Ringo
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 13:00 (fourteen years ago)
Joe Dunne
― Mark G, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 13:31 (fourteen years ago)
ace http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/hate.jpg
― piscesx, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
I remember buying something called BANG magazine circa 2002 with The Strokes on the cover, which very clearly resembled terrible late-period Select. Only lasted a few issues. Was this an attempt to rebrand, whilst failing to realise that the actual content was the failing element?
― Morcheeba, simply happening. (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
It was a different magazine, not a rebrand.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
Did it feature a bunch of demise-era ex-Select writers then? It had about the same level of quality.
― Morcheeba, simply happening. (PaulTMA), Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
Bang! (Another new music mag thread)
a thread from when it first came out.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
had about the same level of quality.
im liable to overrate select, but no
― this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
I remember it being about as charming as Select was just prior to going under
― Morcheeba, simply happening. (PaulTMA), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
EMAP really picked the wrong time to fold Select, if they'd hung on for another year they'd have been alright.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:42 (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^still stand by this fwiw
― deeznults (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
even the typo
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― this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
that very issue was the start of Glastonbury going overground. first time a mag/paper covered the fest in colour. pre-tv era.
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
That is the most early 90s magazine cover imaginable. Jesus Jones! The Orb! The Shamen! James! The Levellers! Unwashed bloke being dragged away from rave by police! Faith No More!
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
sensery overload!
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
wayne's world reference as main... headline or w/e
― this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
All of this stuff had an exotic appeal to me at the time, it was for older people doing cool outdoor partying things. Of course I'd barely heard most of it and had no idea it was shite.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover5.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
taken from http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/?cat=25
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
I think i had this one as I remember the postershttp://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cover2.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
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― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
BONEHEAD SPEAKS!!!
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― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
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most of the covers on this site are Blur or Oasis. It wasn't really like that was it?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
I keep meaning to outline, page by page, the copy of Vox magazine from January 1997 that I found the other idea. It's like looking into a different world (Exhibit A - Tony Blair on their 'cool list')
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
Vox always seemed to have INXS on the cover but that was earlier 90s. Dont recall anything about the late 90s, didn't even think it survived that long tbh
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
december 1990http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover14.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover11.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
do people still use "Nice planet. We'll take it!" as a way of conveying in a headline that a band are becoming very popular? I'm a big fan of this phrase
― deeznults (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
Pre Mojo there was still no escape from the fab fourhttp://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover13.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover24.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
oh wtf!!
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover19.jpg
Cant imagine a time there would ever be a cover like this.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
dj mencap I don't recall that phrase at all
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
That last one is atrociously brilliant. I like the clipart surfer in the middle.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
it's astonishing isn't it?
what does 'king of the black market' mean in this context? he sells records to black people...?
― this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
what would be the equivalent "big" artists to put on it now? So we can laugh at it in 20 years
xp
I wondered that myself, HM
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
ffshttp://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover22.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
Meg Matthews? Really?
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover16.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
^^ ok that one *is* weird to me. the others are kind of lol90s. that 'planet 2000' thing...
xpost
― this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
LOL 1993
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/cover4.jpg
do magazines still do the student pull out things?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
Pixies = LCD SoundsystemUB40 = Mumford & SonsBon Jovi = Kings of LeonMC Hammer = there is no modern equivalent of MC Hammer so Tinchy Stryder or someone will have to do
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
Check all the covers out here
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
UB40 = Mumford & Sons
hahahaha so true yet never thought about it before
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
don't understand that 'Jarvis Cocker...' circle on the MM cover
I mean I know it's a thing that happened but not what it signifies
― deeznults (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
One thing's for certain, a music magazine today would never interview comedians (Mark Lamarr and Sean Hughes, Vic & Bob several times).
― a murder rap to keep ya dancin, with a crime record like Keith Chegwin (snoball), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
noone would interview Mark Lamarr and Sean Hughes nowadays though surely?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
DJ M, it's in a fake blue plaque, and is just an illustration for the 'Rock Tours' thing it sits above.
― portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
DJMen, the whole idea that the thing that happened became something that contributed to the legend and history of Britpop?
― Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
i.e. that if they actually had put those up, they'd have been taken down by now.
― Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
Apart from Bill Bailey and the casts of the Inbetweeners and Skins and the Mighty Boosh about 8 million times.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
Took me a while to parse that 'Mutiny, Mr Christian' on the Hughes/Lamarr cover. Hughes's face distressing me.
September 1992 'marxman' mentioned on the cover strap. Did I ever know who they were? I don't now; the only name I don't recognise from these covers.
This is all making me absolutely unnostalgic.
― portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
oh god I remember Marxman,lol
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
Marxman was a four-piece hip-hop group formed in London in 1989. Together with groups like Massive Attack and Portishead, Marxman helped craft the "Bristol sound," a studied blend of hip-hop, Northern soul, and electronic music that formed the basis for what would become the trip-hop subgenre. The group's uncompromising political beliefs, augmented by their diverse racial makeup, were the source of much controversy during their brief reign in the British singles charts, leading their debut single, "Sad Affair," to be blacklisted from BBC radio for expressing what was perceived to be tacit support for the Irish Republican Army. Though their beliefs were more a product of their militant socialist ideals than conventional flag-waving patriotism, Marxman was one of the first hip-hop groups to incorporate traditional Irish folk in their music, counting Davy Spillane and Sinéad O'Connor among the musicians to contribute live performances to their debut record, 33 Revolutions per Minute.Marxman's history began in Dublin, Ireland, with MC Hollis Byrne and electronic musician Oisín Lunny. The pair had met through their fathers, singer Michael Byrne and Donal Lunny, who had performed together in the '70s with Irish rock pioneers the Emmet Spiceland. Lunny was the founder of the Mood Club, one of Dublin's most popular weekly club nights during the late '80s, and Byrne was one of the earliest progenitors of graffiti art in Dublin. Meeting up in London in 1989, Lunny became the third member of a group fronted by Byrne, now performing under the name MC Hollis, and talented Bristol rapper MC Phrase (aka Stephen Brown). Lunny took a background role as programmer and instrumentalist, while mixer and scratcher DJ Kay One completed the lineup shortly afterward. Marxman's debut single, "Sad Affair," was issued by Gilles Peterson's Talkin' Loud Records, then a satellite of Polygram, in the U.K. and Ireland in 1992; a rewrite of John Gibb's modern folk ballad "Irish Ways and Irish Laws," it was quickly blacklisted by chart radio for its utterance of the phrase "tiocfaidh ár lá," the rallying cry of the IRA in Northern Ireland. By this point, however, the group's popularity had been established, and later in 1992 they capitalized with the release of a second single, the anti-slavery lament "Ship Ahoy," which was bolstered by Sinéad O'Connor's sung chorus and the tin whistle of Afro Celts mainstay and then member of the Pogues James McNally.In 1993, 33 Revolutions per Minute was released, along with a third single; "All About Eve" sampled Stevie Wonder's "My Cherie Amour" and tackled the issue of domestic abuse through a third party's eyes, while a video clip for the single was directed by Spike Jonze, immediately following his involvement in the Beastie Boys' "Time for Lovin" video. 33 Revolutions per Minute was issued in the U.S. in 1994, but failed to make a significant impact, and the group's momentum on the other side of the Atlantic halted simultaneously. Following the release of The Cynic EP, Marxman parted ways with Talkin' Loud; in 1995, they released Time Capsule, an angrier but more musically conservative effort, on the More Rockers label, before disbanding the following year. Oisín Lunny went on to have success as an electronic artist, releasing a successful single, "The Mood Club," in 1999 on Independiente Records, and following it up with a full-length album, When It Hits You Feel No Pain, in 2001.
Marxman's history began in Dublin, Ireland, with MC Hollis Byrne and electronic musician Oisín Lunny. The pair had met through their fathers, singer Michael Byrne and Donal Lunny, who had performed together in the '70s with Irish rock pioneers the Emmet Spiceland. Lunny was the founder of the Mood Club, one of Dublin's most popular weekly club nights during the late '80s, and Byrne was one of the earliest progenitors of graffiti art in Dublin. Meeting up in London in 1989, Lunny became the third member of a group fronted by Byrne, now performing under the name MC Hollis, and talented Bristol rapper MC Phrase (aka Stephen Brown). Lunny took a background role as programmer and instrumentalist, while mixer and scratcher DJ Kay One completed the lineup shortly afterward. Marxman's debut single, "Sad Affair," was issued by Gilles Peterson's Talkin' Loud Records, then a satellite of Polygram, in the U.K. and Ireland in 1992; a rewrite of John Gibb's modern folk ballad "Irish Ways and Irish Laws," it was quickly blacklisted by chart radio for its utterance of the phrase "tiocfaidh ár lá," the rallying cry of the IRA in Northern Ireland. By this point, however, the group's popularity had been established, and later in 1992 they capitalized with the release of a second single, the anti-slavery lament "Ship Ahoy," which was bolstered by Sinéad O'Connor's sung chorus and the tin whistle of Afro Celts mainstay and then member of the Pogues James McNally.
In 1993, 33 Revolutions per Minute was released, along with a third single; "All About Eve" sampled Stevie Wonder's "My Cherie Amour" and tackled the issue of domestic abuse through a third party's eyes, while a video clip for the single was directed by Spike Jonze, immediately following his involvement in the Beastie Boys' "Time for Lovin" video. 33 Revolutions per Minute was issued in the U.S. in 1994, but failed to make a significant impact, and the group's momentum on the other side of the Atlantic halted simultaneously. Following the release of The Cynic EP, Marxman parted ways with Talkin' Loud; in 1995, they released Time Capsule, an angrier but more musically conservative effort, on the More Rockers label, before disbanding the following year. Oisín Lunny went on to have success as an electronic artist, releasing a successful single, "The Mood Club," in 1999 on Independiente Records, and following it up with a full-length album, When It Hits You Feel No Pain, in 2001.
yeah comedians are in NME all the time wtf
― deeznults (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
http://i56.tinypic.com/6rkjs1.jpghttp://i53.tinypic.com/2unvtw8.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover24.jpgMy inner 13 year old is still going "uhhhh I totally need to buy this for the tape but shit, I already spent my pocket money on that Vox with a CD on".
Of course I could probably look up what all the tracks were and download them but it wouldn't be the same.
(PS if anyone does find an archive of Vox scans please let me know)
― dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
not much info on voxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vox_%28magazine%29
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
but for rebecca http://www.discogs.com/label/Vox+Magazine
http://www.discogs.com/label/Select+Magazine
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
haha there is one red tape for sale http://www.discogs.com/Various-Red-Tape/release/1291370
i bet you buy it
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
I had that 1996: Were You There? one!
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
My tape deck is bust so no, that seems a bit extreme.
Although Vox was seen as IPC's response to EMAP's Q magazine
Pah, Vox totally shat all over Q. 4-track Demos era Peej on the cover, the Orb on the CD, Rapeman and Frank Kozik in the record collector supplement? Meanwhile Q was all U2 and the Stones every month.
― dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
OK, my nostalgia is slightly dampened by reading all the tracklists for the Vox and Select cover tapes and CDs I actually have (quite a few) and remembering all the shit tracks that were actually on there in between the lyfe-changing classixxx etc etc (or, how I blanked out that all mid-90s covertapes were contractually obliged to feature either the Cranberries or Paul Weller).
Even Select's rave! techno! future! tape had to find some rubbish James remix so they could put "JAMES" in big letters on the tape cover and not scare away the indies.
Wait, I was one of the indies, then, and I'm still grateful to Select for making electronic music sound like the most fascinating concept ever, back when I wouldn't otherwise have heard much of it.
― dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 3 March 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
I bought vox once I think just to get Orbital - Belfast i think it was. Im trying to remember if one of them had leftfield - not forgotten. If they did, i will have bought it for that.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/albums.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
OMG I remember that list. That was what led me to track down Dodgy and Ocean Colour Scene - much to my displeasure. Damn you days before the internet.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
Pop stars discuss Morrissey’s Your Arsenal albumhttp://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/?p=415
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
At first I thought that list was pretty good, but that was because my brain filtered out the fucking Manics at #1 thinking it was an advert and then thought the column with Underworld, the Boo Radleys, Stereolab, Tortoise was the top 5, with Orbital at #6.
Oh well.
― dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
Select albums of the year 1990 - 2000http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/select.html
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
I'll take 1990-era Select which did seem to be genuinely all over the map than post-95, obviously Britpop completely narrowed then killed this magazine's focus. Asking some zeitgeist-y indie twats 'have you ever had a heavy metal phase', ugh.
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:59 (fourteen years ago)
The magazine ran a New Order interview from August or September 1993 that's one of the best long pieces ever on the band.
I read the magazine fairly regularly -- would even splurge on the import charges -- until about '95.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 March 2011 03:06 (fourteen years ago)
I have time for lots of the stuff listed from 90-94. How did Regret not get best single in 1993?
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
did you see Best Select Albums Of The Year List
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:11 (fourteen years ago)
The Birth of Britpop:http://selectmagazinescans.netii.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/britpop1.jpg
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 4 March 2011 04:41 (fourteen years ago)
select get tae fuck for inventing britpop you horrible xenephobic 'ironic' shit mag
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 04:52 (fourteen years ago)
none of this is really surprising me except 'King Of The Black Market'. seriously wtf. that was from it's first weird year before all the good writers joined. was it even run by a different publisher that first year or..something?
first issue i got was the Depeche 1990 one. anyone else? that's not really Prince on the first issue either if you look closely.
― piscesx, Friday, 4 March 2011 05:13 (fourteen years ago)
and yeah Rich is right that 93 New Order dominated issue was bloody fantastic.
― piscesx, Friday, 4 March 2011 05:19 (fourteen years ago)
I remember that 'What... No Bluetones?' thing from 1996 - I never liked the Bluetones but thought it was a bit rich/odd to sneer at them when the actual list includes Space, Shed Seven and Ocean Colour Scene...
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:04 (fourteen years ago)
First issue I got was the one with the Compleat Blur article, which was pretty much brilliant.
― barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 13:00 (fourteen years ago)
"Seminal music genre...featured Menswear and Thurman...Ooh, don't get me started...Changed your life, didn't it? Cast at the Dublin Castle, tracksuit tops, Paul Weller back on top. Best days of my f**king life...All of which fails to explain why you mongs forgot to vote for me in the readers' poll. Can't-f**king-read-ers poll, more like. Wankers."
― someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)
The sudden hatred of The Bluetones was weird
― Morcheeba, simply happening. (PaulTMA), Friday, 4 March 2011 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
They were very "default"
― Mark G, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
I'll step in and defend Bluetones. Their first album was full of great songwriting but they always got lumped in with the other Britpop also rans.
― barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
This is what Select did to the fortnightly rock/metal mag RAW
http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/images/Raw1995_1.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511xWeDfyJL._SL500_AA300_.jpgFROM THE MAKERS OF SELECT it proclaims on the cover. Raw was a great mag before this.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
You can buy that Jarvis one if you want tohttp://www.amazon.com/Select-Jarvis-Cocker-Bluetones-Oasis/dp/B0034ZKZHQ/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1299252839&sr=8-29
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
orhttp://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=select+magazine&_sacat=See-All-Categories
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
who wants a Select in a cereal box? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Select-Magazine-Dec-1995-Stone-Roses-X-Files-Blur-/290537173629?pt=UK_Magazines&hash=item43a55d727d
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
hehe, i knew a metal kid in my class who was incensed at the raw indie re-format. it was weird, why not just start an unrelated magazine and fold the old one? how many pantera fans were gonna start digging on menswe@r?
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
It seems particularly silly as it was basically Select magazine anyway but fortnightly.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
RAW was better than Kerrang tbh , it was a bit more open-minded. But turning into select fortnightly was toooooo much.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
Imagine MUZIK had decided to continue but as NME Lite, that is how daft the raw relaunch was. Not only were metal fans gonna buy it but the select readers didn't either. Publishers do not help themselves sometimes.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
Did nobody think of those with subscriptions?
― Mark G, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
seeing that "yanks go home" issue is a pleasant suprise actually... i like all the bands and it doesn't really have anything to do with the post-oasis wannabe-yob culture that had set into mersh indie by '96, quite the opposite in fact. seems more like a celebration of the things that do actually make british pop music unique like eccentricity and being the nerdy underdog. luke haines, lawrence, jarvis and st ettienne peeps all bros. suede were ok i guess.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
hah, oh god, I dunno how those people must have reacted.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
poor bastards
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
that font for the "raw" logo was everywhere in the mid 90s, kinda like if you'd made the letters out of ice and then let them melt.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
corny drop-shadow a nice touch, too
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
I think that period stone roses could have been covered by RAW anyway. Sebadoh and dinosaur jr and sonic youth,afghan whigs and other more indie acts etc all did. Metal Hammer covered Oasis (or at least they got in their albums of year list) and i knew a lot of metal fans who dug the 1st oasis album. so why they just changed completely is beyond me.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
LOL look at the difference between the other years & 1995http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/raw.htm
btw the late 80s/early 90s ones aren't there and would have provided even more of a contrast
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
I appreciate you tirelessly defending the honour of a magazine so on it they gave album of the year to The Wildhearts but I think that, 16 years on, you should maybe let it go.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
haha
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
the wildhearts had some hooks! catchy as fuck.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
what was the "photoshop pull out" in raw?
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
give $10 to jjjusten and he can go to this shop to find out http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0034ZKZHQ/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1299252839&sr=8-29&condition=used
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
You can buy issue 1 of Vox magazine from 1990http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOX-MAGAZINE-HAPPY-MONDAYS-Issue-1-Oct-1990-/320604238867?pt=UK_Magazines&hash=item4aa5807413
issue 2 is there as well
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
Comes with the Original Box - the Box is in fairly good condition and will be flattened out for posting. Alas, the stuff in the box was eaten 16 years ago.
― blud money (sic), Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)
One of the only things I remember about Select is they once gave away a Michael Eavis mask and it scared the shit out of my sister when I jumped out at her with it on.
― jimitheexploder, Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)
ha ha ha
you should have tried wearing it upside down
― blud money (sic), Saturday, 5 March 2011 01:46 (fourteen years ago)
too good and funny to die this thread.
― piscesx, Monday, 14 March 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
unlike the magazine!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 14 March 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
Well this is fun: http://selectmagazinescans.monkeon.co.uk/
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 1 November 2013 12:11 (eleven years ago)
Really want to know how many copies that Gay Dad issue sold.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 November 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago)
Well it was at least one. Possibly not much more though.
― not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:32 (eleven years ago)
Plonked into one at random, ended up with a "Stars in their eyes" special (People doing Jarvis, NHannon, NPersson, GStefani, etc)
― Mark G, Friday, 1 November 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago)
Aw, I was hoping for full scans. Though yeah, I wouldn't want to scan 100 issues either. Hats off to that guy for what he has scanned.
Surprised by how few I had as I spent a large chunk of my teens reading them, but I'd buy one issue and re-read it obsessively for months, I guess, plus they were competing with Vox, NME, MM and later the dance mags for my attention.
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:52 (eleven years ago)
Clicked on July 1994 cz I had that one, clicked on the page with a blurb on Pressure of Speech bcz long-forgotten name, whatever happened etc, read
"I really fucking hate D:Ream - I think 'Things Can Only Get Better' will be the next Tory Conference rally song."
I wonder...
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago)
I think the first one I got was the one with Morrissey on the cover from July 1991.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 1 November 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/UAu1XQP.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 27 November 2015 21:39 (nine years ago)