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The staff here at Noisey has always enjoyed a wide range of music, from extreme metal to underground hip-hop to mainstream pop to punk and everything in between. And while our editors' tastes are eclectic and our opinions diverse, we are all united by a shared belief in a few core principles, namely that we are absolutely and resolutely anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobic, and anti-fascist. Obviously, these are values that are not shared by all American citizens and institutions, and the results of last week's election were a sobering reminder of that.

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Last week, some of us watched the news in a state of shock, while others' previous beliefs of America's division were confirmed. Throughout it all we wavered between periods of disbelief, fear, and anger. But most of all, we felt powerless. Because although it seemed like sheer madness that the populace elected a man with no political experience, whose platform was a bald-faced representation of white supremacy and the alienation of millions of Americans, we had to face the reality that he would occupy the Oval Office for the next four years.

It's been disheartening to see some entertainment outlets already begin to normalize Donald Trump, as if he is any way a traditional candidate or a leader whose opinions merely diverge from the norm. We at Noisey have zero interest in doing this. In fact, the agenda we plan on pursuing over the next four years will be the polar opposite. We will relentlessly and unrepentantly rail against fascism and bigotry in all forms. Further, we will continue to celebrate the culturally diverse voices that make America's music scenes wholly vital, unique, and wonderful.

Trump's America will be frightening and frustrating to those with progressive viewpoints, especially to those from the marginalized communities he and his followers have targeted. But as we stand here, now, mad as hell, we recognize that the only way we can do this is to continue to be who we are. We will not only elevate voices that Trump and his followers want silenced, but we will hold ourselves to a standard that will refuse to allow Trump and Trumpism to be normalized. He is a bigot. He is a fascist. He is a misogynist. He is a white supremacist. He is a fraud. And he is terrifyingly powerful. We must not allow his poisonous rhetoric to dominate the discourse of culture. And we do this together. If you have ideas and thoughts, we want to hear them. We want to act on them. We want to empower you to act on them. We want to shine a light on scenes wherein people respect one others' genders and identities without pause and without question. We want to support the underground, where so much vital work is already being done to combat his noxious rhetoric. The people who determine the future should be those who will live in the future.

Send us your stories, your experiences, your art, and your ideas on how to survive this motherfucker's reign to musicvstr✧✧✧@noi✧✧✧.c✧✧. We promise you that we will check this email every day for the next four years.

We are going to start every week by re-reading this letter. We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.

So while last week was dark, it's now time to move forward, do the work, and fight like fuck. We're going to fight like fuck for music fans who feel like they don't have a voice in Donald Trump's America. We're going to fight like fuck to give a home to artists willing to speak out against oppression, misogyny, white supremacy, and xenophobia. We're going to fight like fuck to provide an outlet to artists and writers of color, to writers who are women, who are immigrants, who are Muslim, who are working class, and who are members of the LGBTQIA community. We're going to fight like fuck to use our platform here at Noisey to oppose everything Donald Trump and his administration represent. We're going to fight like fuck—because that's all we can do.

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forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 11:54 (eight years ago)

I saw excerpts of this floating around Twitter. It's s nice-enough sentiment but I think it's pretty empty without acknowledgment the role Vice played in normalizing/providing a new foundation to all of this nonsense under Gavin's reign.

¶ (DJP), Saturday, 17 December 2016 12:29 (eight years ago)

yeah I think if some other more or less apolitical music blog was suddenly coming on with this kind of inflated insurrectionary rhetoric people wouldn't be making quite so much fun of it (although it would still be kinda silly imo, the impulse is laudable but anyone getting all "this Hype Machine kills fascists" could do with 1x gentle reality check) but coming from this outlet there's an especial lack of self-awareness

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:45 (eight years ago)

was just noticing that noisey has essentially abandoned the Vice magazine voice in favour of the universal blogger warmbodies tone

flopson, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:51 (eight years ago)

FWIW "universal blogger warmbodies" was my favorite Sound Canvas preset

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 16:44 (eight years ago)

you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:42 (eight years ago)

waht's a "warmbody" tone

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:47 (eight years ago)

you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of

I have little idea who wrote it beyond —The Noisey Editorial Staff but I will assume this person is aware of what it was when it was what it was, so djp's point still stands

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:52 (eight years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kMPR6P4fBj0/UDfBS-EF-YI/AAAAAAAAAAU/z__Xq6dOSTw/s1600/becks-love-music-hate-racism1.jpg

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:57 (eight years ago)

Isn't it better that it has changed into this? I dont see how that makes any of the points less valid

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:58 (eight years ago)

https://images.vice.com/noisey/content-images/article/noisey-best-and-worst-of-2015-dan-ozzi/dan-ozzi-best-of.jpg

You know those days you wake up for work and think "I can't do this. I cannot face the filth bucket that is humanity today?" I had one of those this summer and instead of going to an office, I hopped a train to the beach, and sat there all day alone, doing nothing but enjoying the sun and the ocean and listening to this album. I will forever hear it and tie it to that memory. I highly advise you to force yourself off your daily path once in a while.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/noisey-best-and-worst-of-2015-dan-ozzi

sometimes you fight like fuck, sometimes you just ditch your office job and sit on the beach doing nothing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:02 (eight years ago)

uuuuugh didn't that guy also do that horrible lecherous celeb interview thing

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:06 (eight years ago)

Xp if and when there is evidence of this relentless new direction you are free to vote "yes". I have tried to leave a sufficient window for people to make up their minds

I am pro taking a beach day

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:06 (eight years ago)

uuuuugh didn't that guy also do that horrible lecherous celeb interview thing

yeah w/ natalie imbruglia. awful writer

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (eight years ago)

performatively

woke

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (eight years ago)

PAY YOUR WRITERS MORE

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (eight years ago)

you know what i really resent? outlets calling for more marginalised voices - which mostly means young and inexperienced - and using their experiences for a diversity effect while paying them absolute shit, taking advantage of their lack of knowledge/ability to ask for money they can actually live on

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:17 (eight years ago)

he didn't mention fighting like fuck to actually pay people

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:18 (eight years ago)

provide a platform and outlet but not, actually, a fair rate of pay

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:19 (eight years ago)

in fairness to noisey they are far from alone in this

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:20 (eight years ago)

As I wrote on the other thread

Whiney G. Weingarten
Posted: December 16, 2016 at 8:42:04 PM
My personal favorite part is the open call for Muslims and immigrants to provide them with content, presumably at the same slave wages that Vice writers get

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:22 (eight years ago)

Isn't it better that it has changed into this? I dont see how that makes any of the points less valid

Yes it is very much better that the millions of dollars made on ironic racism and Terry Richardson blowing loads on teenagers eventually went to self-aggrandinzing woke soapboxing, what a time to be alive

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:24 (eight years ago)

My friend went to a Vice party in the Aughties and told me the DJ played nothing but Skrewdriver and nobody was the wiser

Now Noisey had articles about how wearing Skrewdriver shirts is problematic. YOUVE COME A LONG WAY BABY

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:26 (eight years ago)

lol

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:35 (eight years ago)

would not assume "nobody was the wiser" tho tbf

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:35 (eight years ago)

from the CEO loudly bragging about fucking an intern with two dicks in one rubber to fighting like fuck for marginalized voices, truly this is a sincere battle being fought and not one rooted in the grotesque commerce of mining social justice for capitalism

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:37 (eight years ago)

haven't music publications been mining social justice for capitalism for a long time? Isn't that part of the Rolling Stone story?

sarahell, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:39 (eight years ago)

beats me

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:41 (eight years ago)

you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of

― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:42 Bookmark

wight dorke i knew it

r|t|c, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:46 (eight years ago)

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who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:48 (eight years ago)

actually i dont know if the person im thinking of wrote it, i just saw that person share it

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:54 (eight years ago)

who works for noisey obviously

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:54 (eight years ago)

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Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:55 (eight years ago)

lol wight dorke

sarahell, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:56 (eight years ago)

more like

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/hellraiser/images/4/4a/960.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160204075810

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:56 (eight years ago)

It wasnt him, i dont know him

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:58 (eight years ago)

waht's a "warmbody" tone

― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:47 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just like the platitudinous zombified cut-and-dry voice of takes far and wide. like, Vice tone is indistinguishable from salon, huffpo, slate to me now. for all the awful things about 00's-Vice (the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight) the writing had a distinct voice. maybe it was ripped off from 90s zines or whatever but it was strongly associated with Vice and the foundation of the brand

on the 'paying workers slave wages' front, they've recently unionized, so, maybe something will happen with that

flopson, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:07 (eight years ago)

on the 'paying workers slave wages' front, they've recently unionized, so, maybe something will happen with that

This means the staff gets decent salaries, and benefits; their freelance rates are at the low end of average. Each of the 3 stories I've written for them has paid $125. Bandcamp pays 3x that.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:16 (eight years ago)

surely the fighting like fuck makes up for it?

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:26 (eight years ago)

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/inside-the-sad-world-of-racist-online-dating

this is good content to fight fascism

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:55 (eight years ago)

the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight)

I mean, this was obvious at the time.

¶ (DJP), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:03 (eight years ago)

Xp "it's hard out there for a racist" hmmm

fuck like fight like fuck (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:13 (eight years ago)

haven't music publications been mining social justice for capitalism for a long time? Isn't that part of the Rolling Stone story?

― sarahell, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

beats me

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:41 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol yeah I was going to say, Rolling Stone really hit its stride by providing political commentary of a sort that wasn't widespread AT THE SAME TIME they were pronouncing god status on rock dudes who were fucking fourteen year olds

mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 21:58 (eight years ago)

Much like what Pulp Fiction did with John Travolta in the early 90s, 2016 has thrust white nationalism back to the forefront of our collective psyche, forcing our society to—again, much like Travolta—stare continuously into its insane, twinkling, dead eyes.

thinking aout what lex was saying on the other thread about Vice (well, Noisey) being performatively woke while not actually paying writers well enough to make writing for them worthwhile, but this is more an argument of how you get what you pay for

boxedjoy, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:44 (eight years ago)

Lol I wasn't specifically referring to noisey, though perhaps it also applies

lex pretend, Monday, 19 December 2016 23:43 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/welcome-to-the-guide-to-life

smh "start a podcast"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:40 (eight years ago)

Do You Have Something To Say? Make a Game

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v0RdU1A7jiQ/maxresdefault.jpg

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:51 (eight years ago)

An actually useful guide to life would tell people not to bother doing any of these things

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:59 (eight years ago)

We'll continue publishing explainers on the things you need as you figure out how to live as your best self in this new era.

can i get an over/under on the chances of them publishing an explainer on how to get involved in local politics?

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:05 (eight years ago)

not that 'throwing a diy rave' won't shake entrenched power structures to their very core in and of itself but still

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:06 (eight years ago)

it's on waypoint, their games vertical, what are they supposed to run

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:09 (eight years ago)

like, a few days ago people were calling out pitchfork for running political content that has nothing to do with music, and now here's a games site called out for running content about games

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:10 (eight years ago)

i feel like if you make a huge self-important statement about 'fighting like fuck' and then the best you can do to follow up is dribble out some tepid garbage about starting a band then you deserve to be clowned relentlessly from sea to shining sea

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:16 (eight years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KKOpPgZ.png

marcos, Monday, 23 January 2017 22:20 (eight years ago)

watch this next

marcos, Monday, 23 January 2017 22:20 (eight years ago)

compare & contrast

We're going to fight like fuck to use our platform here at Noisey to oppose everything Donald Trump and his administration represent. We're going to fight like fuck—because that's all we can do.

Unity is used by everyone from individuals to professional studios that make "AAA indies" like Firewatch and Gone Home. You can make basically any kind of game with Unity, and sure, it can look a little intimidating at first.

But the tutorials and community support are excellent.

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:23 (eight years ago)

the waypoint one is particularly egregious because it's literally a dull-as-dishwater guide to getting started on the basics of game-making topped and tailed with some boilerplate vague nonsense about telling your story in a world which is 'burning now', 'politically speaking'

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:26 (eight years ago)

not that 'throwing a diy rave' won't shake entrenched power structures to their very core in and of itself but still

― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 23, 2017 5:06 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you aren't into that you can go for craft beer and the 100 indie rock song playlist

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:28 (eight years ago)

When starting a band, it's necessary to ask two important questions:

Why?
Specifically, why a band?

These questions are not jokes.

i know something right now that is a joke, it's a real knee-slapper

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:30 (eight years ago)

What all those immigrants about to be deported should really do is learn how to make an indie video game

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 January 2017 22:44 (eight years ago)

repression quest

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:45 (eight years ago)

i feel like if you make a huge self-important statement about 'fighting like fuck' and then the best you can do to follow up is dribble out some tepid garbage about starting a band then you deserve to be clowned relentlessly from sea to shining sea

― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 23, 2017 2:16 PM (three hours ago)

claiming the moral high ground via posting on a message board.

sarahell, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 02:11 (eight years ago)

I did not know how to start band and I do now and it has been much more useful than my previous efforts

mh 😏, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 05:01 (eight years ago)

Let's make a game about starting a band!

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 05:07 (eight years ago)

claiming the moral high ground via posting on a message board.

claiming the moral high ground via replying to a post on a message board

repeat ad nauseam

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 08:20 (eight years ago)

except that nobody is making similar claims about posting to ilx afaict

wins, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 08:48 (eight years ago)

I only make those claims to people IRL, FWIW

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 11:11 (eight years ago)

"Fight like fuck white supremacy and the deprivation of medical care for millions of Americans by creating a Spotify playlist of your favourite liquid neurofunk jams #resistance"

stichomythia (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 12:17 (eight years ago)

i think it's natural/honest for publications to reflect the conflicted/half-arsed/quasi-engaged approach to politics that the majority of their readers/ppl have, demanding consistency is nonsense

ogmor, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 12:42 (eight years ago)

pretty cool of them to post an interview with uber-woke intersectional activist Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/at-the-end-of-the-world-with-nikki-sixx

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:39 (eight years ago)

At one point I ask Nikki Sixx what he would do if he had to live a completely different life. "My ultimate goal is to be a homeless street artist," Sixx says sarcastically as he gets out of the car. Before I can ask what he means, he gets pulled away, and disappears.

tbf he probably meant something very profound about fighting like fuck

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:51 (eight years ago)

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/how-an-editor-allegedly-used-vice-canada-to-recruit-drug-mules-for-a-global-smuggling-ring

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:12 (eight years ago)

I guess "fire that fuck" is a reasonable variation

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:28 (eight years ago)

fight like fuck with an interview wholly concerned with promoting a Vice TV show about two "prankster" musicians whose sole contribution to anything appears to be calling themselves Nirvanna the Band and existing as flotsam in the Toronto music scene.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/a-look-inside-nirvana-the-band-the-show-the-new-show-not-about-nirvana

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:39 (eight years ago)

Local hero. What makes Dan Burke Dan Burke?
Matt: Well, he's willing to fight for what's right, literally.

Jay: I also think there isn't a single young starting-up band in Toronto that doesn't cross paths with Dan Burke.

Matt: Dan Burke has been doing it for so long, that he's just, like cut, like he's like a leather piece of...

Jared: Toronto music.

Matt: He is! There's no bullshit with him. There's a video of it online, but the story is one time a band wouldn't leave the stage. They had gone over their allotted time, and the next band was starting to set up, but the other band wouldn't stop playing, and so Dan Burke punched one of the guys and then they started a huge fight. You can see this video on YouTube. Search up"Dan Burke fight." And then the bass player from the band breaks his bass over Dan Burke's head. You just think, "Jesus, Burke, you're a..." Anyway, he, he's not fucking around.

viva la resistance!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:41 (eight years ago)

i searched up 'dan burke fight' and the first result was some mma match and the second was that vice article

#fightlikefuckfail

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:51 (eight years ago)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/this-dating-app-helps-people-find-love-based-on-their-mutual-hatred-of-things-vgtrn

i wonder if one of the first topics available to match on will be "white ppl"

sarahell, Friday, 3 February 2017 00:44 (eight years ago)

The whole idea behind Hater was actually a joke, according to CEO Brendan Alper. He told the Cut that he thought of the app while thinking of sketch ideas, after he quit his job at Goldman Sachs to become a comedy writer.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 February 2017 00:47 (eight years ago)

after he quit his job at Goldman Sachs to become a comedy writer.
after he quit his job at Goldman Sachs to become a comedy writer.
after he quit his job at Goldman Sachs to become a comedy writer.
after he quit his job at Goldman Sachs to become a comedy writer.
after he quit his job at Goldman Sachs to become a comedy writer.

maura, Friday, 3 February 2017 01:29 (eight years ago)

is Madchild that minor a Canadian music-industry personality?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/how-an-editor-allegedly-used-vice-canada-to-recruit-drug-mules-for-a-global-smuggling-ring

― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Thursday, February 2, 2017 10:12 PM

Frozen CD, Friday, 3 February 2017 02:07 (eight years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/LRx72L0.png

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 February 2017 19:51 (eight years ago)

lol

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:08 (eight years ago)

it's cool though that they were able to get some much-needed commentary from Macklemore

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:09 (eight years ago)

Lonely guy just thinking baout white supremacy haircuts

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4zzMFqUEAAUk1v.jpg

soref, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:11 (eight years ago)

tbh I had a haircut like that pic last year and people just assumed I was friends with all the local anti-racist dudes who had been skinheads in the past

obviously changed my hairstyle before people decided I must be into third-wave ska

mh 😏, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)

That headline is like the exact inverse to India.Arie's "I Am Not My Hair"

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:14 (eight years ago)

lol

mh 😏, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:16 (eight years ago)

please start a separate thread if they get 'neb to write a piece In Praise of the Blended Haircut

sarahell, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:45 (eight years ago)

Cool how their editor-in-chief came at a Black woman music writer on some "angry Black woman" stereotype shit, really doing the work there!

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Thursday, 16 February 2017 22:46 (eight years ago)

We're going to fight like fuck to provide an outlet to artists and writers of color, to writers who are women, who are immigrants, who are Muslim, who are working class, and who are members of the LGBTQIA community

Let's get into the new album. Talk about what went into this lyrically first. You mentioned writing pseudo-political songs, was there a political element to this album?

Cuomo: Yeah, there's like a little current events stuff, a little. It's very, like all the songs are very... material. It's not so autobiographical. There's a lot of like, made up shit. There's like random stories and stuff and a lot of fiction. Some stuff that was going on at the time. The material lyrically and stuff is a lot different from each other.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/the-orwells-are-terrible-human-beings

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 February 2017 03:08 (eight years ago)

not surprised that half the articles on noisey still white pseudo punk rockers w no convictions or aims beyond getting wasted

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 February 2017 03:09 (eight years ago)

i suppose Chicago doesn't really have much political stuff to talk about these days...

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 February 2017 03:11 (eight years ago)

is that a ref to a particular article or is noisey chicago-biased iyo

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 03:48 (eight years ago)

the Orwells (linked above) are from Chicago

they've always seemed like idiots. thought they'd grow up eventually...

alpine static, Friday, 17 February 2017 08:07 (eight years ago)

ah

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 14:27 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

Fred Durst said of his own band's sound that "I know y'all be loving this shit right here" and the people did. They truly did love that shit. Let's all put on our caps, tilt them backwards, and reminisce on the glory days.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/limp-bizkit-were-once-so-powerful-they-almost-made-slayers-kerry-king-quit-music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 21:44 (eight years ago)

Phil is a nu-metal archivist.

Frobisher, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:10 (eight years ago)

It's a dirty job and nobody had to do it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:32 (eight years ago)

It's funny, every time I think people could not be any less interested in nu-metal in 2017, I come across someone who is really into Korn or Papa Roach or something and is continuing to follow 'em. It surprises me because even at the time I thought it'd be a passing fad that would be over within a few years and it wasn't surprised at all when that turned out to be the case, but also because I never expected the appeal of these bands to last beyond people's teenage years.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 01:44 (eight years ago)

Papa Roach AFAIC passed into cool territory the other day with their Twitter responses to the fake Paul Ryan story after the failed health care vote. Couldn't give a care for their music but they're obviously in the right place headspace-wise.

Korn's impact on metal I can acknowledge without thinking anything more about them.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 01:47 (eight years ago)

Deftones were always the nu metal band it was ok to like

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 March 2017 12:54 (eight years ago)

I'd put System of a Down in that category, too.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 13:47 (eight years ago)

Poll Closing Date: Monday, November 2, 2020 7:00 PM (in 3 years)

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 30 March 2017 13:56 (eight years ago)

never expected the appeal of these bands to last beyond people's teenage years.

tbf ~95% of people tend to just listen to stuff they loved during their teenage years

marcos, Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:07 (eight years ago)

the fake Paul Ryan story

aww what that wasn't real?!? i should have known it was too good to be true

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:15 (eight years ago)

four weeks pass...

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/a-look-into-the-musical-career-of-republican-lawmaker-and-alleged-red-pill-founder-robert-fisher

nothing screaming fighting the power like devoting front page real estate to in-depth reviews of everything the Red Pill guy recorded

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 27 April 2017 14:50 (eight years ago)

Noisey, an online descendant of Creem with the Oral Roberts dropout Eric Sundermann as its Dave Marsh, the brash punk Dan Ozzi its Lester Bangs, and the extreme-metal feminist Kim Kelly its Jaan Uhelszki.

lmao ok xgau

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 11:40 (eight years ago)

we should all be virtue signaling more i guess. also swearing

maura, Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:27 (eight years ago)

i like kim kelly

mark s, Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:33 (eight years ago)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/chelsea-tattoo-no-regrets

this guy got tattoos of Hillary and Chelsea. what you YOU done?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:34 (eight years ago)

what have YOU done?, even

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:34 (eight years ago)

i like kim kelly

she ended up being one of my favourite characters on freaks and geeks

gnaw on my meat oreo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:39 (eight years ago)

Smith said he's hopes to get a Bill tattoo to complete the trilogy ("might as well get 'em all, right?" he said) but for now he only has portraits of Hillary, Chelsea, and, uh, Howard Stern. "I'm a fan and longtime supporter of him" he told me. "Howard is a longtime Hillary supporter, too, by the way."

seems like a cool guy

gnaw on my meat oreo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:40 (eight years ago)

kim is good i'm mostly indicating the other two clowns

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:49 (eight years ago)

Kim is great.

Odysseus, Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:50 (eight years ago)

And shouts out to America's Funniest Home Videos who are still dedicated to finding video of people hurting/demeaning themselves after all these years.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/slipknot-fan-recovering-from-dental-surgery-unlocks-meaning-of-life

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:53 (eight years ago)

thirding/fourthing that Kim is great

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 4 May 2017 13:12 (eight years ago)

^can't stop, won't stop

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 6 May 2017 13:24 (eight years ago)

(By which I mean, one more for the Kim Kelley greatness acknowledgement chain)

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 6 May 2017 13:25 (eight years ago)

I, too, think Kim Kelly is the bee's knees

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 6 May 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a-rising-river-leaves-interns-trapped-outside-kalu-yala

TIL Vice has a series called Jungletown that is a reality tv spin on neocolonialism. a for-profit South American village whose founder is promoted in this Vice video series as a "visionary". wiki:

Despite Kalu Yala's stated altruistic, sustainability and educational goals, the venture is profit seeking and solicited a $12 million Series A venture capital round with the intent to a achieve a $100 million valuation in five years.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 20:57 (eight years ago)

four months pass...

do the work

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kabqb/the-single-payer-problem-liberals-dont-want-to-talk-about

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 16:18 (seven years ago)

What's this about a problem, I hear you ask? The current health insurance industry bureaucracy hires lots of low-income women to work at crappy jobs that might disappear under single-payer.

So, how about using some of the massive savings created by single payer to set up high quality subsidized child care or some other badly needed social services and hire those low-income women to do something more socially useful than pushing paper or answering phones?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 17:22 (seven years ago)

Good zing about the author's twitter bio

"Writer. Busy doing important work" is just "CEO at gettin money inc" for people who only worked as unpaid interns until age 30

— The Discourse Lover (@Trillburne) September 19, 2017

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 17:31 (seven years ago)

lol

streeps of range (wins), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 17:34 (seven years ago)

ice cold

mh, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:53 (seven years ago)

how the heck did i miss this thread before

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 03:20 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

Noisey is gonna have to really fight like fuck now!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 00:01 (seven years ago)

idgi

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 October 2017 00:24 (seven years ago)

Vice should be burned to the ground

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 00:33 (seven years ago)

So this guy founded Vice's feminist website but was secretly in touch with Breitbart? ffs

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 6 October 2017 00:50 (seven years ago)

this is a fuckin disaster - the noisey people are gonna be super pissed

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 October 2017 00:56 (seven years ago)

milo yabbadabbadoopolous

maura, Friday, 6 October 2017 01:21 (seven years ago)

Before they fight the establishment like fuck, Vice will have to fight themselves like fuck first

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 6 October 2017 01:50 (seven years ago)

broadly dude will no longer be doing the work

mookieproof, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:51 (seven years ago)

I keep imagining the Noisey staff reacting like Phil Hartman, Chris Farley and Melanie Hudsel in the SNL skit about the Soylent Green sequels, only instead they're screaming "VICE IS STILL RACIST AND SEXIST! WE THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T BUT THEY ARE! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 19:37 (seven years ago)

or like unfrozen caveman lawyer.. "look, i'm just an innocent woke ass dude that just started working here.. when i heard a racist started this place i was like 'whattt?' i didnt know because i just started working here...'"

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 6 October 2017 19:39 (seven years ago)

This was like 4 years ago. Just a reminder of how it's still fucked to be a woman in music. Here is @grass_widow reviewed in @vicenews pic.twitter.com/3ShmofqwXj

— Frankie Rose (@heyfrankierose) October 18, 2017

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:30 (seven years ago)

what the shit

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:48 (seven years ago)

lol I forgot about that

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:53 (seven years ago)

who are working class LOL sure sure

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:55 (seven years ago)

argh that is rage-making

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:58 (seven years ago)

"i must have done my version of a southern redneck character, one which I am well acquainted with"

Is the apology supposed to be a parody of pre-MRA rape apologists too? Or are we still working under the assumption I wrote that in earnest?

— Thomas Morton (@Babyballs69) October 19, 2017

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:57 (seven years ago)

@babyballs69, you've done it again!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:58 (seven years ago)

what a scamp

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:02 (seven years ago)

I've crossed paths with one of the Grass Widow ladies several times and she was always super-cool, knowing who he wrote that about just makes it extra revolting

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:03 (seven years ago)

I'm sorry, did I say "scamp"? I meant "goatse-faced fuckstain"

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:05 (seven years ago)

getting off topic a bit here but does anyone have a few good zinger responses to the all-too-common pre-trump and getting-to-the-point-of-what-the-fuck post-trump "i was just joking, cantcha take a joke" argument?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:06 (seven years ago)

"I can when they're funny"

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:07 (seven years ago)

Are you the band? I do apologize to them. Actually, I should send them a proper apology, long overdue. You, however, I don't know.

— Thomas Morton (@Babyballs69) October 19, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:08 (seven years ago)

DJP otm

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:12 (seven years ago)

that dude is now a vice journalist and correspondent, i suspect like a lot of those dudes they used humor to get edgy points and now they're engaging in journalism for the same reason.

nomar, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:16 (seven years ago)

i'm all for hounding Vice for its past, they used the guise of transgressiveness to be so nakedly bigoted that it's still kind of horrifying.

nomar, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:22 (seven years ago)

oh yay another "Performance Artist"TM

fuck all these edgy pricks

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:39 (seven years ago)

it is ironic cos when i was in art school taking modern art history that point when performance art and postmodernism came into view seemed to also be when critical feminism, POC, and other marginalized voices started getting into traditional art spaces

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:41 (seven years ago)

oh look

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:41 (seven years ago)

I played a show opening for the Horrors and we had bought a dozen or so goldfish. The plan was that the live goldfish would be in champagne glasses at the front of the stage, and that during the show we would knock them into the audience. Lead singer of the Horrors heard about this and pitched a fit and the club owner wouldn't let us do it. Several members of our band were even appearing on a split 7" with him, and he still wouldn't let us go through with that plan.
Of course, the goldfish all ended up in the toilet. A more dignified way to go?

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:05 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:41 (seven years ago)

looking back on that, yes i was the jerk in that scenario. not sure what it has to do with Vice but ok

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:43 (seven years ago)

Remember way back when, when we were having the original arguments about Vice and Ann Sterzinger started babbling about nigger cheese? And yet somehow a good number of people thought Vice was still about irony?

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:44 (seven years ago)

had to search the archives and good christ

nomar, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:47 (seven years ago)

it inadvertently led me down a two minute Momus "in defense of vice" rabbit hole and i had to escape

nomar, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:48 (seven years ago)

unsurprisingly, she is now 'alt-right'

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:54 (seven years ago)

"now"

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:55 (seven years ago)

THEY WERE ALWAYS LIKE THAT

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:42 (seven years ago)

oh lol xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:42 (seven years ago)

promoting adorable nazi folk duos etc

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:43 (seven years ago)

That Grass Widow review lingers in my mind every time I see a Vice article appear in my timeline. People are quick to talk about the terrible value of The Daily Mail on society but realistically Vice has had a deeper and more subversive reach with its brand of pseudo-ironic alt-right values and it continually amazes me that they've become legit and respected.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:49 (seven years ago)

I hate how the influence of Vice as a writing voice is so ubiquitous now. Its easy to write "rip off my testicles" keyboard bashing rants and the tone of snark and snobbery is just so off-putting. It feels like there's no room for genuine enthusiasm and excitement or calm critique anywhere and the fact Vice is such a prominent online voice is a huge part of this.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:56 (seven years ago)

"now"

well, the terminology has changed

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:03 (seven years ago)

I have not really followed Momus since he stopped posting here; does he still believe Vice was subverting racism?

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:17 (seven years ago)

let's remember the good times: PRUSSIAN BLUE - White Power Folk Duo.... of 12-year-old twin sisters...

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:26 (seven years ago)

Just because an ideology is unpopular (in this case, rightfully so) doesn't mean you can deny it's right to exist, or it's subscribers their life, liberty, and freedom to live wherever the fuck they want.

oh man I read that comment on the thread Οὖτις just linked and took a second before scrolling down to play the "guess the poster" game

mh, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:30 (seven years ago)

lol I apparently did a full-body NOPE away from the Prussian Blue threads

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:33 (seven years ago)

oh god ann sterzinger, now there's a blast from the past. kind of ahead of her time in a way

Amazing Random (m coleman), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:35 (seven years ago)

xxp

feel like there might be something faulty about that quote when applied to nazis but i can't quite put my finger on it

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:36 (seven years ago)

sterzinger's last post was less than a month before my first :D

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:37 (seven years ago)

gotta love the amount of shit I took for insisting that VICE shouldn't have given them exposure, what a monster I was

I can't find the sterzinger exchange in question, what thread did that happen on?

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:40 (seven years ago)

The 'I hate this generation' thread - C/D

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:42 (seven years ago)

how many people who were like "no man I want small government, I'm a libertarian, I don't agree with those type of people but they can say whatever" later went full alt-right by 2016

mh, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:45 (seven years ago)

ugh, i never saw that thread. ann used to post on I Love Books all the time in the olden days.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:46 (seven years ago)

xp: The only person I can think of I know who was in that zone who didn't is a friend from college who was well on his way to vanishing in a spiral of conservative orthodoxy until he came out right before his 50th birthday. (His best friend is also a libertarian type but is and has always been staunchly anti-racist over everything else, making him one of the few conservative-leaning voices in my friend circle who I don't automatically assume is arguing from a position of unexamined racism.)

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:49 (seven years ago)

I think that thread was my only interaction with Ann? I did not have a positive impression.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:49 (seven years ago)

jfc

xxp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:49 (seven years ago)

If Celine and Hamsun weren’t fascists, they’d be Ann Sterzinger. And finally, a book where the footnotes aren’t a twee affectation. —Nick Mamatas

https://www.amazon.com/NVSQVAM-nowhere-Ann-Sterzinger/dp/099073353X

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:50 (seven years ago)

when someone said "Ann Sterzinger is now writing for Taki" my reaction was "why did that take so long and why are people acting surprised?"

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:51 (seven years ago)

dang one of the other pull quotes on the book scott linked is from a men's rights alt-right slug

mh, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:55 (seven years ago)

wow, yeah, she is a total alt-right person! jeez. came across a youtube podcast interview with her dressed as a nazi. yeesh.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:56 (seven years ago)

you know that like all the other alt-righters she's an egomaniac narcissist, probably googles her name every evening, and will be here in 3...2...

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:57 (seven years ago)

i won't link to it. its a savage hippie interview on youtube. whenever i read "female jim goad" i know i'm in for a treat. though that used to just be debbie goad...

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:58 (seven years ago)

someone could deindex...

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:58 (seven years ago)

I think if she has managed to resist coming back this board for the past 11 years, this little nostalgia trip won't lure her back.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:59 (seven years ago)

also, i came sort of close to bumping this recently: ILB writing workshop

faaaairly glad i didn't now (her tone certainly put me off though)

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:59 (seven years ago)

I confess I was blissfully unaware of this jackass's existence prior to this thread

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:00 (seven years ago)

Ann Sterzinger owns the BLACK PILL SITCOM genre, previously known as dark comedy, embracing the bleakness with a giddy sense of fun.

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:01 (seven years ago)

I think if she has managed to resist coming back this board for the past 11 years, this little nostalgia trip won't lure her back.

is it safe to mention b3cky luca5 yet

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:06 (seven years ago)

Three times in a mirror at night, spit over your shoulder and howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl like a werewolf

rb (soda), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:11 (seven years ago)

maybe Callum will come back too

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:11 (seven years ago)

anyone to shake us out of our complacent bourgie-liberal torpor ;)

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:13 (seven years ago)

(n.b. i know ilx isn't very bourgie at all, but these fucks loooove to conflate leftism and social progressivism with wealth for some dumbfuck reason)

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:14 (seven years ago)

(ghost of calum reappeared briefly when his hugh hefner thread was bumped last week)

mark s, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:17 (seven years ago)

someone called calum the turrican of his day yesterday on a thread about Suede that calum started back in the day . Turrican was not amused.

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:28 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-women-accuse-vice-of-toxic-sexual-harassment-culture

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:20 (seven years ago)

and now we fuck

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:21 (seven years ago)

https://www.theawl.com/2017/11/vice-sexual-harassment-story-coming/

Frozen CD, Friday, 17 November 2017 16:16 (seven years ago)

Hmm.

Storm’s brewing.

— Kim Kelly (@GrimKim) November 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:15 (seven years ago)

“We haven’t had any cases of sexual harassment to deal with,” Ashbrooke wrote. (Ashbrooke was vice president of human resources at Harvey Weinstein’s Miramax Films from 1991 to 2000, according to her LinkedIn page, a time when the now-disgraced producer was paying out hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal settlements to squash allegations of sexual harassment and unwanted sexual contact by employees and actresses.)

grim lol

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:29 (seven years ago)

Nancy Ashbrooke
Global HR at VICE
Listens to Barry Manilow
Lives in New York, New York

omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:31 (seven years ago)

there's no media company i'd be more delighted to see dragged thru the mud than VICE though it's about a decade and a half overdue, it might be a bit of "closing the barn door after the horse has bolted" as it were.

omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:35 (seven years ago)

The update on that Awl story is even nuttier.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:53 (seven years ago)

i hope that video leaks, i would like to see it.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:04 (seven years ago)

can;t wait to see the sad online media circlejerk do the whole "Please hire my talented friend BABY BALLS 69, he is so smart and can do more than rape jokes and exploitative videos on regional rap scenes"

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:34 (seven years ago)

It begins?

http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/vice-jason-mojica-suspended-sexual-harassment-1202617460/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:20 (seven years ago)

I for one am astonished that an organisation founded by Gavin McInnes and named after the police department that deals with sex crime could be home to sleazy scumbags

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:31 (seven years ago)

The clock further ticks.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vice-sex-harassment-shane-smith_us_5a1063b9e4b045cf4371cbe4

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 00:14 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.

~~~
A Pleasant Afternoon Being Hungover with Tim Kinsella
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/kzg8ae/first-dates-tim-kinsella-capn-jazz-interview-2017

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:54 (seven years ago)

A better internet is possible. We are going to show you how. Motherboard is building a community internet network at VICE HQ: https://t.co/iwqTueS6IN

— Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler) December 14, 2017

meet the new boss

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:46 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.emergelv.com/

Nothing like having a $125-a-head conference in the American capitalism fever dream city with topics like "SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER" and "WELCOME TO THE UNDERGROUND"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:06 (seven years ago)

$125 for a conference in LV seems impossibly cheap tbh

mh, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)

Can't imagine paying $485 for "direct access to talent" like OK Go

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 5 February 2018 20:17 (seven years ago)

four months pass...

there's so much in this story, but this bit made me think of this thread:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/inside-vice-media-shane-smith.html

"While Viceland also has a younger audience than many networks, its average age is still 42, which has had the effect of both expanding and aging Vice’s demographic. This was more than a small problem for a company whose entire selling proposition was its ability to reach a young audience. Over the years, Vice has proclaimed itself the voice of Generations X, then Y, and now Z, the youngest of whom don’t identify with the punk tenor of the company’s origins. Vice’s audience still skews male, and a loyal chunk still lingers from the company’s more macho days. (A Vice staffer told me it was relatively easy to get access to law enforcement: 'Nobody loves Vice more than cops.') In a meeting just before Donald Trump’s inauguration, Eddy Moretti warned the editors of Vice’s websites against leading an editorial resistance and offered a confusing proposition that may have put the final stake in Old Vice, suggesting that 'we might want to develop the Vice version of David Brooks.'"

maura, Monday, 11 June 2018 16:55 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/WwGFxNk.jpg

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 June 2018 17:19 (six years ago)

I fell for the "late gen-xers selling transgression to early millenials" bullshit for about a minute fifteen years ago, then fell for the fake respectability they tried a few years after that. Since then, these people have occasionally published or produced the rare thing that's mildly entertaining but each article or show I enjoyed could have easily been put out by a different group with no real change because none of them really felt that linked to their branding

someone get Desus & Mero a HBO contract or something

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 17:52 (six years ago)

A 2017 report funded by Google found that among 122 brands, teenagers found Vice to be the second-least cool, less than Yahoo, the Sunglass Hut, and JCPenney

oh man

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:03 (six years ago)

Nothing's less cool than the try-too-hards.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:05 (six years ago)

lol @ google polling how uncool yahoo is

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:55 (six years ago)

Vice should die in a fire

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 June 2018 19:57 (six years ago)

by all rights Vice should have an all-conquering, dumb-ass podcast network by now

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2018 20:37 (six years ago)

they don't have a bench of actual interesting personalities, nor do they really have enough depth on any specific topics

I mean, plenty of podcasts find success without either, but it ties back to the problem that their brand has no ethos. I mean, what's their hook, that they're edgy?

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:45 (six years ago)

the tagline on vice.com is VICE - Original reporting and documentaries on everything that matters in the world.

so they're CNN only they're, like, cool if you're 40 and a dude who used to do too much coke?

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:47 (six years ago)

someone get Desus & Mero a HBO contract or something

― mh, Monday, June 11, 2018 5:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:13 (six years ago)

i liked the edgy vice of my youth, even though it's aged terribly those were quality LOLs that i cherish. the company's identity crisis is something to behold for sure and almost everything it does completely sucks but i think there is a potentially good version of vice out there that i like to imagine sometimes

flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:29 (six years ago)

I just looked up that Google report that put Vice at 2nd least cool among teens - it has YouTube at #1 on its cool graph? I knew YouTube was popular with the kids but I can't say I've ever thought of it as "cool." huh.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:04 (six years ago)

I have these “cool brand” booklets from the early 2000s that I’ll never junk because they’re such a bizarre artifact of marketing worship. came with some magazine. who picked them? why? it’s this peek into bizarre consumerist cachet

mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:35 (six years ago)

I think this is their current day web presence http://www.coolbrands.uk.com/

mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:36 (six years ago)

‘Desus & Mero’ Stars Ending Their Viceland Show, Eye Deal At Showtime https://t.co/gxBsJTZURH pic.twitter.com/VSJTOsA9BT

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) June 15, 2018



well, I was close

mh, Saturday, 16 June 2018 20:51 (six years ago)

I see we're playing the long game...

Poll Closing Date: Monday, November 2, 2020 7:00 PM (in 2 years)

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:03 (six years ago)

the poll is about their four-year agenda

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 17 June 2018 03:34 (six years ago)

Best thing on Vice now is nirvanna the band the show. Canadian buddy show set in Toronto - past mockunentary
Part Seinfeld show about nothing. A lot of the mock parts involve pedestrians unaware of what’s going on security staff have tried to thwart the guerilla aryle filming

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Monday, 18 June 2018 04:57 (six years ago)

That’s the sort of post that would ordinarily seem destined to echo out into the void without response but luckily I, also, am a Nirvanna The Band The Show fan.
Has there been any progress on s2 reaching non-Canadian audiences via legal channels? Why was there a separate Canadian version of Viceland in the first place?

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:18 (six years ago)

Also, while I’m here, to maybe try my own hand at a sales pitch: it’s about a two-man band in Toronto who live together and don’t seem to rehearse much, but go to extreme lengths every episode to book a gig at real-life venue The Rivoli (trying seemingly everything, except, for some reason, just calling up the place to do it the normal way). The piano player obviously has 99% of the talent in the group but the vocalist is the ringleader with all the harebrained schemes.
Like Ross said it’s mostly shot in real places with real people, apart from scenes back at their house where they come up with the plots. It’s remarkably airtight considering that - they have a knack for getting exactly what they need out of non-actors, and in a way that keeps much of the potential discomfort firmly on themselves. Along with the show’s emphasis on making Toronto feel like Toronto, the impression they create is that two people in this perfectly ordinary city are living a hilarious sitcom life, and we just happen to have cameras trained on them while they fail to gel with their surroundings. It’s really a delight, and probably the reason I keep forgetting that Vice doesn’t actually do all that much else that I like.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:39 (six years ago)

Has there been any progress on s2 reaching non-Canadian audiences via legal channels?

When was there an issue? It has aired in Australia and is all available for legal streaming

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:44 (six years ago)

Hmm. For the longest time it wasn’t available in America, at least. But you’re right, it seems to be on iTunes now.
Anyway I would strongly encourage even the Vice-averse to give it a shot.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 09:21 (six years ago)

My people

Also the creators rule. Responded to my email re enjoying the show right away. Anyone who grew up in the 90s and has found affection for n64, vhs and genuine throwbacks will dig it

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 07:39 (six years ago)

one year passes...

i guess we can close this poll

maura, Friday, 8 November 2019 17:45 (five years ago)

We are going to start every week by re-reading this letter. We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.

i am still doing this, who is with me

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 November 2019 17:54 (five years ago)

threads that aged particularly poorly for the win

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:06 (five years ago)

or loss

kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:07 (five years ago)

i stand corrected

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:09 (five years ago)

how has this aged poorly?

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:10 (five years ago)

https://jezebel.com/bosses-at-vice-and-the-fader-ignored-sexual-misconduct-1839636779

kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:19 (five years ago)

yeah, it's aged better than I could have dreamed

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:27 (five years ago)

but the fader is so woke, how could this be

imago, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:37 (five years ago)

in the sense that this announcement was widely, and rightly, ridiculed for rank hypocrisy, it's aged p goddamn well imo, including in light of recent allegations.

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:42 (five years ago)

i feel like this thread was Bruneau at his best

sarahell, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:13 (five years ago)

seven months pass...

vice did some work
https://genderphotos.vice.com/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:25 (four years ago)

If the goal is to increase visibility and acceptance of non-binary ppl, why would they otherize them by demanding “Please credit The Gender Spectrum Collection in your captions” as opposed to just crediting Vice.

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:38 (four years ago)

Also, this doesn’t mean dogshit unless every one of these models was paid the same rate (or better) as a Getty/iStock model, and, of course there’s no mention of how they were compensated. Another slam dunk brought to you by Shane Smith and neo-liberalism

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:39 (four years ago)

Is this entirely their own thing or is it in partnership with Getty/iStock?

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:49 (four years ago)

it's about time somebody curated all the genders

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:50 (four years ago)

I just looked and Getty is definitely doing their own thing:

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/transgender?mediatype=photography&phrase=transgender&sort=mostpopular

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:52 (four years ago)

abolish stock photos imo

budo jeru, Monday, 15 June 2020 15:54 (four years ago)

eh

stock photos are fine, wider representation in stock photos is fine

Where I'm puzzled re: the Vice project is that the Getty photos I looked at all seem to encompass the same range of experience as the Vice photos with the added benefit of most of them not looking like glossy staged model shots. It feels like they are trying to fill a niche that's already been filled and calling themselves trailblazers. (Obv that position comes with a grain of salt because my default position re: Vice is "fuck them, everything they do has a shitty ulterior motive")

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:00 (four years ago)

vice did some work

one of my friends is nonbinary and used to work for vice and... this ain't shit imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:24 (four years ago)

then again self-awareness and ruthless self-interrogation aren't really the vice brand

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:24 (four years ago)

Dan, how dare you be cynical about the place that published this

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:25 (four years ago)

tbf I'm not going to click on that because I feel I've given Vice enough traffic today already

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:30 (four years ago)

I really wish I hadn't clicked that!

peace, man, Monday, 15 June 2020 16:31 (four years ago)

how is that still up

just throwing a transphobia/misogyny/general awfulness content warning up

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:33 (four years ago)

I would ask someone to repost the text but... I think I get the gist based on the reactions

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:34 (four years ago)

right there in the third sentence too, really just had to hit that transphobic note immediately xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:35 (four years ago)

yeah no if yer curious there are ways to get around giving them traffic and still witnessing the horror but there's no part of that that should get c+p'd in here

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:37 (four years ago)

This is why I will forever dismiss the opinions of all the woke “they’re not like that anymore/that was before I got there” shitheads because this is literally what the brand WAS. Like not even in a “Henry Ford was an anti-Semite” way, because at least Henry Ford made cars. It’s like some neo-folk band going from full Nazi to “we sing about nature now.” Fuck off

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:43 (four years ago)

Joanna Fuertes-Knight's newsletters are an interesting read wrt the behind-the-scenes ethics of Vice.

They tried to make her prove in court she's mixed-race as part of her unfair dismissal case.

ShariVari, Monday, 15 June 2020 16:47 (four years ago)

I broke down and looked at the Google cache for that link

ugh

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:59 (four years ago)

one of my friends is nonbinary and used to work for vice and... this ain't shit imo

to be clear: I didn't say it was shit! I said it was work!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 17:06 (four years ago)

i struggled to write that post in a way that didn't suggest you were giving them credit, sorry forks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 17:07 (four years ago)

it's cool, i think we all got the vibe here

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 17:07 (four years ago)

I think that partymeister article just gave me an existential crisis.

jmm, Monday, 15 June 2020 18:39 (four years ago)

defund vice

crystal-brained yogahead (map), Monday, 15 June 2020 18:50 (four years ago)

I would have hit them with a "this you?" but that thing forks posted is like three months old

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 18:54 (four years ago)

fun fact: 75% of those partygoers were actively posting on the All Noize Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar in 2004, and in 2020 100% of them are intellectual property lawyers with summer homes in New Hampshire.

the burrito that defined a generation, Monday, 15 June 2020 18:56 (four years ago)

famous property lawyer dr morbius

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 18:57 (four years ago)

It’s like some neo-folk band going from full Nazi to “we sing about nature now.” Fuck off

― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, June 15, 2020 11:43 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

goole otm

fwiw i was trying to argue up there that music about forests is fascist. if you are writing songs about forests, you are making nazi music.

― goole, Friday, August 17, 2012 11:27 AM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:40 (four years ago)

dang why you gotta do robert smith like that

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:49 (four years ago)

His song was only about one forest, so he's safe.

JRN, Monday, 15 June 2020 22:28 (four years ago)

Also, it was about a girl who happened to be in a forest, only she didn’t exist

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 02:55 (four years ago)

so a ghost nazi

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 05:25 (four years ago)

everybody knows anyone who plays a jazz chorus is a nazi.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 05:37 (four years ago)

i don't understand why that article exists. are there really people that are hip and literate that are actually that stupid? ... or is it supposed to be "ironic" ?

sarahell, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:50 (four years ago)

i don't understand why that article exists. are there really people that are hip and literate that are actually that stupid? ... or is it supposed to be "ironic" ?

― sarahell, Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:50 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Do you not remember the '00s?

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:15 (four years ago)

correct answer is "Vice"

Ivan Scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:16 (four years ago)

If you can remember the '00s, you weren't really there, at the Vice dorm party, snorting coke off a pasty guy's balls

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:52 (four years ago)

I'll snort it wherever I find it baby

Ivan Scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:09 (four years ago)

All Tomorrow's Pasty Guy's Balls

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:24 (four years ago)

Do you not remember the '00s?

― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:15 AM (yesterday)

The 00's are kinda blurry tbh, spent just about the entire decade putting on warehouse shows -- I probably did it all wrong because I didn't read Vice

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:00 (four years ago)

/Do you not remember the '00s?

― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:15 AM (yesterday)/

The 00's are kinda blurry tbh, spent just about the entire decade putting on warehouse shows -- I probably did it all wrong because I didn't read Vice


Weird, I was playing warehouse shows and would definitely stumble across copies of Vice!

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:19 (four years ago)

"I used to book '00s OAKLAND warehouse shows for the scene that produced Aids Wolf, Child Abuse and Twodeadsluts Onegoodfuck and I do *NOT* remember an era where it was cool to be edgy"

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:29 (four years ago)

xp -- you do remember that year where I genuinely only heard the Beatles twice whereas you heard them constantly?

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:31 (four years ago)

you do remember that two decades where you put on a total babe-in-the-woods act on ILX even though you're terminally online and live in a metropolitan area

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:33 (four years ago)

and maybe you "stumbled across" copies of Vice because you were a dude in a band playing shows, whereas I was trying to get a bunch of dudes from a bunch of bands to actually load-in their gear, set it up, sound check, play their sets, strike their gear so the next band could play without everyone sitting around for 40 minutes while the band that just played walk through the crowd like gods among men, plus make sure the audience members who are hanging outside drinking alcohol illegally sold at our warehouse shows aren't being so conspicuous as to attract police attention ... and making sure there's toilet paper in the bathroom ... and making sure that we aren't out of bottled water .... and, you know ... being responsible and shit

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:36 (four years ago)

you do remember that two decades where you put on a total babe-in-the-woods act on ILX even though you're terminally online and live in a metropolitan area

two decades? I've only been on ilx since like December 2008 -- that is uh ... one decade and change

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:38 (four years ago)

literally all I know about the ‘00s hipster edgelord coke scene I learned from reading noize board pre-‘08

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:50 (four years ago)

TS: Vice Guide to Partying vs Vice Guide to All the Races

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:26 (four years ago)

This trip down memory lane is not doing anything for my blood pressure

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:33 (four years ago)

the saddest beef

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:38 (four years ago)

I was talking about Vice

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:39 (four years ago)

I was at a vice party on a boat in Barcelona (free booze) in the 00s and there was a Spanish hipster with a shirt that said "no soy creyente en el virús del SIDA" ("I am not a believer in the AIDS virus") on it and that seemed very on brand

Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:43 (four years ago)

i’m ironically jizzing on a picture of saddam hussein stumbling over a stack of vice magazines with the mirror cover while a band that looks like the strokes takes a picture of me with their phones and posts it to carles’ blog

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:48 (four years ago)

My friend went to a Vice party in the Aughties and told me the DJ played nothing but Skrewdriver and nobody was the wiser

Now Noisey had articles about how wearing Skrewdriver shirts is problematic. YOUVE COME A LONG WAY BABY

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:26 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:52 (four years ago)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjg34w/how-to-know-if-you-are-a-hipster-racist

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:23 (four years ago)

two months pass...

Ended up voting “no”

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 27 August 2020 15:41 (four years ago)

But they still got two more months..........

more haim than good (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 28 August 2020 11:47 (four years ago)

one month passes...

We are going to start every week by re-reading this letter. We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:02 (four years ago)

some small part of me wished you got on their editorial staff before this poll expired.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 25 October 2020 04:42 (four years ago)

all hands meeting on monday, we're going to review some key directives

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 October 2020 04:44 (four years ago)

but also let's get some clicks out there!

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 October 2020 04:45 (four years ago)

Have they fart like fuck yet

Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 October 2020 05:21 (four years ago)

always, fart like fuck, always

sarahell, Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:03 (four years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 2 November 2020 00:01 (four years ago)

*bites nails*

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 2 November 2020 00:40 (four years ago)

vote twice for justice

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 November 2020 02:56 (four years ago)

anyone here ever been to kokie's? i always associate the legend of that place with the vice of yore

treeship., Monday, 2 November 2020 03:22 (four years ago)

i walked past it many times and laughed but no i never went there iirc.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 November 2020 08:42 (four years ago)

Judging by the torrent of angry anti-Noisey Trump tweets over the years, yeah they did they work and fought like fuck. They really got under his skin.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 November 2020 09:34 (four years ago)

wish the results to this poll could be read out in the Curtis narrator voice tomorrow

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 November 2020 11:59 (four years ago)

I think this is the nicest thing I've ever said about Vice/Vice contributers:

Not everyone who writes for Vice is entirely terrible, some people just wanna get paid by dicks

― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:23 PM bookmarkflaglink

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:19 (four years ago)

nearly everyone who gets paid to do anything is paid by at least a few dicks

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:21 (four years ago)

sometimes also some vaginas

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:23 (four years ago)

don't forget the assholes

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:26 (four years ago)

one assumes the assholes are always there

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:27 (four years ago)

i get paid by puppies

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:49 (four years ago)

(and I mean actual dogs u pervs)

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:50 (four years ago)

ADVERTISEMENT

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 November 2020 15:43 (four years ago)

had some prepositional confusion there -- wondering the exchange rate of dicks to dollars vs dollars to donuts

sarahell, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:52 (four years ago)

don't GIS "dicks to donuts"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:54 (four years ago)

worst Harry Potter spell

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:57 (four years ago)

"eat a dick" now a confusing insult

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:59 (four years ago)

feel like this is going to be a landslide, polls are ignoring shy dave cool voters

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:00 (four years ago)

Was at a vice party on a boat once in the 00s and there was like a roulette table or something, and I just remember seeing a vice exec nonchalantly peeling off bills from a scrooge-mcduck wad of 100s the size of a grapefruit. I've spent the last 12 years wondering if it was real or movie prop money or what.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:13 (four years ago)

every day since then i've moved forward, done the work, and fought like fuck to figure it out

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:14 (four years ago)

oh place your dicks to donuts
and pray

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 November 2020 21:29 (four years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:01 (four years ago)

this is like Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:04 (four years ago)

i do not remember what poll option i chose 4 years ago

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:36 (four years ago)

What all those immigrants about to be deported should really do is learn how to make an indie video game

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, January 23, 2017 5:44 PM bookmarkflaglink

repression quest

― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 23, 2017 5:45 PM bookmarkflaglink

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 03:51 (four years ago)

two years pass...

no

Breaking News: Vice, the brash digital-media disrupter that has struggled to find a buyer, is preparing to file for bankruptcy, according to two people. https://t.co/Ydz7ofzIpy

— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 1, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 07:31 (two years ago)

lol i had forgotten the poll closed 4 years ago and saw this thread bumped and thought, "oh, did the poll finally close? what were the results?"

sarahell, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 11:15 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc7_1GAYNOw

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:38 (two years ago)

it’s funny how the narrative used to be evil vice paving DBA and putting up a cynical corporate newsroom and now it’s about how this plucky independent media outlet is getting destroyed by corporate behemoths. perhaps the truth … is somewhere in between ….

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:48 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Send us your stories, your experiences, your art, and your ideas on how to survive this motherfucker's reign to musicvstr✧✧✧@noi✧✧✧.c✧✧. We promise you that we will check this email every day for the next four years.

*The Anime\(*^β^*)/ Ring (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 17:56 (six months ago)

;_;

mookieproof, Friday, 8 November 2024 03:10 (six months ago)

idk what it says about me that this thread was one of the first things i thought of on wednesday morning

budo jeru, Friday, 8 November 2024 21:17 (six months ago)


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