ILM Top 100 Records -- The Full List

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100. Pixies - Trompe Le Monde
99. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
98. Massive Attack - Blue Lines
97. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
96. Judy Collins - "Send in the Clowns" (single)
95. Belle & Sebastian - Lazy Line Painter Jane (3 EP box set)
94. Who - Who's Next
93. Sweet Female Attitude - "Flowers" (single)
92. Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
91. Kraftwerk - Autobahn
90. Can - Future Days
89. A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
88. Primal Scream - Screamadelica
87. Various artists - Hitsville U.S.A.: The Motown Singles Collection 1959-1971 (box set)
86. Stooges - Raw Power
85. Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight
84. Patti Smith - Radio Ethiopia
83. Slits - Cut
82. Radiohead - OK Computer
81. Public Image Ltd. - Public Image/First Issue
80. Main Source - Breaking Atoms
79. Kraftwerk - Computer World
78. Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual
77. Genius - Liquid Swords
76. Miles Davis - In a Silent Way
75. Congos - Heart of the Congos
74. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
73. Leonard Cohen - Greatest Hits
72. Chic - "Good Times" (single)
71. Glen Campbell - "Wichita Lineman" (single)
70. Phil Spector - Back to Mono (1958-1969) (box set)
69. Turbonegro - "I Got Erection" (single)
68. R.E.M. - Murmur
67. Radiohead - Kid A
66. Dinosaur Jr. - Where You Been
65. Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain
64. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
63. Syd Barrett - Madcap Laughs
62. Portishead - Dummy
61. Pixies - "Debaser" (single)
60. Beach Boys - Sunflower/Surf's Up
59. David Bowie - Hunky Dory
58. Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
57. Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground
56. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
55. Sly & the Family Stone - Greatest Hits
54.Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
53. Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
52. Cure - Disintegration
51. Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
50. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
49. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
48. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
47. Trashmen - "Surfin' Bird" (single)
46. Clash - London Calling London Calling
45. Manic Street Preachers - Generation Terrorists
44. Joy Division - Heart & Soul (box set)
43. Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy
42. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
41. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
40. James Brown - Star Time! (box set)
39. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
38. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
37. Pixies - Surfer Rosa
36. Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
35. Fugazi - Red Medicine
34. Smiths - Hatful of Hollow
33. Velvet Underground - Loaded
32. Tricky - Maxinquaye
31. Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express
30. Big Star - Third Album/Sister Lovers
29. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
28. Joy Division - Closer
27. Blind Willie Johnson - "Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground" (single)
26. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
25. Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space
24. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
23. Donna Summer - "I Feel Love" (single)
22. Daft Punk - Discovery
21. Boards of Canada - Music Has A Right to Children
20. Nirvana - In Utero
19. Various Artists - The Anthology Of American Folk Music (box set)
18. Weezer - Pinkerton
17. Stooges - Fun House
16. Roxy Music - "Virginia Plain" (single)
15. Madonna - The Immaculate Collection
14. Beatles - The White Album
13. Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
12. Kraftwerk - Man-Machine
11. Guns N Roses - Appetite for Destruction
10. Velvet Underground - Peel Slowly and See (box set)
9. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
8. Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
7. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
6. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
5. Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
4. Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
3. Abba - Gold
2. Britney Spears - "Baby One More Time" (single)
1. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless

fred solinger, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four fucking rap albums. thanks, ilm!

ethan, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five fucking jazz albums. thanks, ilm!

proton, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Eleven fucking singles. Thanks, ILM!

Tom, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seven fucking box sets. Thanks, ILM!

(Oh, and Tom: I'd count the "best ofs" as sorta in the singles spirit, if I were you.)

Sterling Clover, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One fucking reggae album. Thanks ILM.

Johnathan, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Two fucking Manics albums. Thanks ILM.

Ally, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You're all fucking me. Thanks, erotic pleasure zone!

Wait, that came out wrong.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i only have 8 records on the list.

keith, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well that either makes you incredibly hep or you mostly own Leon Redbone albums like my dad.

Josh, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good:

1 Beatles album

Black Secret Technology

Radio Ethiopia

No 'What's going On', Captain Beefheart, no V.U. & Nico

Kraftwerk and Miles with 4 entries

Excellent top-3

about 16 of my 40 records made it on the list.

Not so good:

Where's the dub?

Where's the dance music?

Where's rap?

Where's St.Etienne/Paul's Boutique/Pod/The Wonder Stuff? ;)

2 Dylan albums

It's just a tiny bit too white. But no real shock with all the ex-MM readers on ILM (right?) and the outcomes of some C&D's

Omar, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i really don't like the implications of saying 'too white'. more like 'too indie rock'. but yeah, where the hell is the rap? and not paul's overrated beck-sounding boutique either.

ethan, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I own 55. I guess I have some shopping to do.

Sterling Clover, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I own 54 of these records (probably half of them I'll never listen to again ;)

Yeah Ethan, too 'indie rock' is better. (...and if only Beck made some approaching "P's B." he would be tolerable.)

anyway another plus: Weezer (might be irritating-as-fuck but a bit of fresh air as an utterly non-canon choice.) no Leftfield.

erm...where's Destiny's Child ;)

Omar, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No 'Trout Mask Replica'. Now that does make a refreshing change. Good stuff, ILM!

Johnathan, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

69: but then it IS somewhat slanted to the past, you unpop things.

69 is in itself a cool number, unlike the extremely canonical and tiresome 100.

(10 x 10, bleh, how rubbish can your factors get... )

mark s, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No records by the Fall. I thought they were rather well-liked 'round these parts. Same goes for Pulp. No "Common People"?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

concluding thoughts (and answering one or two points raised in the related threads):

i) biggest surprise for me: # of rap records on my list > # of rap records on the final list. in a pretty big way.

ii) i'm no huge dance fan but there are five (i think) dance/pop records on the whole list and britney spears is #2? is she really that special? i don't find any of her hooks that memorable aside from "sometimes," which sucked. i'd easily take the spice girls or "love to love you" or "i will survive" or "disco inferno" or "shut up (and sleep with me)".

iii) i sincerely had a tiny sliver of hope that someone else might vote for stravinsky or ryoji ikeda.

iv) _red medicine_ at #35? "do you like me?" is brilliant but i don't even think this is a great record for fugazi. too much farting around and too much dated mid-90s rock.

v) _disintegration_. *rolls eyes*

vi) i just voted by picking the first 40 records that came into my head that have moved me a lot and played an important role in my life, limiting it to a maximum of two records per artist. if i did the list over, i'd vote differently. of course i didn't vote politically -- it's just a bleeding ilm list. of course i didn't just pick 40 records that are really exciting right now -- what am i, amnesiac? in retrospect, i'm surprised i only voted for one smiths record (_hatful_) and that it came so low on my list (#26 with 4.5 points).

vii) i like the magnetic fields but _69ls_ isn't the fourth-greatest record of all time. there was no stephin merritt on my list but there might be if i did it over.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Only 2 from my list ("Surfin' Bird" and "I Feel Love") turn up on the ILM list. Maybe if I hadn't foolishly voted for singles only, Paul's Boutique and Rocket To Russia and Exile On Main Street would have made the big list *sigh*.

Patrick, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The points differential between any two records on the list is, I suspect, not high.

I almost voted for Ikeda but just was in more of a pop/songful mood when I did the entry. It's certainly in the floating gauzy field of records which my top 40 at any given time might be picked from.

Agreed that there seem to be very few hip-hop or dance records on the list. I guess dance and hip-hop fans didn't vote. With me, a lot of my votes were to records which have meant incredible amounts to me at some point or other - while hip-hop makes up a lot of my listening there aren't many hip-hop records which fit that bill (whereas there are quite a few dance records). I don't know why this should be.

Tom, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

here are 40 records (in point order, from highest to lowest) that received two votes but didn't make the hundred.

Paul Simon - Graceland
Velvet Underground - ...and Nico
Who - Live at Leeds
ABBA - "Dancing Queen" (single)
Air - Moon Safari
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst
Brian Eno - Music For Airports
Jay-Z/Memphis Bleek - "Is That Your Bitch" (single)
Model 500 - Classics
Pet Shop Boys - Discography
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Pulp - "This Is Hardcore" (single)
Rolling Stones - Hot Rocks: 1964-1971
Saint Etienne - Too Young to Die
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Aphex Twin - Richard D. James Album
Basement Jaxx - Remedy
Beatles - Revolver
Captain Beefheart - Safe as Milk
Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Butthole Surfers - Hairway to Steven
Can - Tago Mago
P.J. Harvey - Rid of Me
Kenickie - "Punka" (single)
LFO - Frequencies
Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians
Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed
Slint - Spiderland
Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
Television - Marquee Moon
U2 - The Joshua Tree
Various Artists - Nuggets - Original Artyfacts of the First Psychedelic Era (box set)
Scott Walker - Scott IV
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Creedence Gold
Pulp - Different Class
Dusty Springfield - The Very Best of…
KLF - Chill Out
Joni Mitchell - Blue

album with the highest avg. (min. 2 votes): the holy bible (14)

album the lowest avg. (min 2. votes): music for 18 musicians (1.5) -- it received 4 votes but didn't make the list!

10 highest scoring artists:
1. Joy Division
2. Kraftwerk
3. Velvet Underground
4. Manic Street Preachers
5. Bob Dylan
6. Beach Boys
7. Miles Davis
8. Daft Punk
9. Beatles
10. My Bloody Valentine

10 most voted-for artists:
1. Kraftwerk
2. Bob Dylan
3. Velvet Underground
4. Beach Boys
Beatles
Miles Davis
Daft Punk
Pixies
9. Pulp
10. David Bowie
Joy Division
Manic Street Preachers
My Bloody Valentine
Stevie Wonder
Tom Waits

fred solinger, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom: the answer to your semi-question might just be that, even now, cultural distance from the social milieu that *creates* a music still means something.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Scarily enough, I have 69 as well. Hm, conspiracy.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i have 70. though one should note that the record at NUMBER 69 is turbonegro's "i got erection." when you consider that, everything starts making more sense.

i'm in the same boat as tom (though he did name it takes of millions...). i enjoy rap immensely but didn't name one song. my justification is, "well, you can only pick 40 and that's a small percentage of the many things i've heard in my life." though i fear the real reason is that most rap singles or albums don't have the same connection to me as the 40 records i named do. why that is is a quite different question and one i don't really have an answer for.

fred solinger, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have 23. What prize do I win for having the least amount of records?

Ally, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the prize that i'm getting because i only have 16 of them.

ethan, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damnit. Can I arm wrestle you for the prize?

Ally, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the 'prize' is probably a copy of loveless anyway.

ethan, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

v.spooky conspiracy, also, Ned, seeing as neither of us voted

mark s, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I own 69 of them too, for real. That is way freaky.

Patrick, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As far as rap not showing up on the lists of people who love the music, maybe it's simply a matter of rap having lower peaks *for those people*. I mean, if you've heard a lot of music, a record has to shake you up pretty intensely to make your top 40. For me, it worked the other way around - punk is closer to my heart than rap, but 6 rap singles made my list, and there's no punk in it. "Mind Playin' Tricks On Me" and "White Lines" just move me more than "Anarchy In The UK", "Smash It Up" or "Suspect Device" do (however much I love those), that's all.

Patrick, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have 20 of them, how many points did Loveless get? And why didn't anyone else vote for the Philistines Jr?

james e l, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

These selections outside the hundred - more indivdual, more interesting, more please.

K-reg, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have 41 of 'em.

Dr. C, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hmmm not sure about the list .... 2 things that are definitely bad about this one : firstly : there's not enough hip hop secondly : there's the Manic Street Preachers

Marie, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I check in with 40. I still find it interesting that PiL's Second Edition didn't make it but the first one did. Oh well. I'm pleased to see Unknown Pleasures so high on the list, though!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
i listened to a bit of _the holy bible_ at future shop yesterday. it reminded me a bit of twisted sister, especially "faster." so why are they popular with people who hate metal?

sundar subramanian, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Asking the wrong board - I like them because they are good pop metal.

Ally, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have ten of those.

hmmm, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
I've got 33....Congos excellent...but no Marley????? Shurley shome mishtake...

Peter D, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Gosh. Only 17. Out of 1,000+ CDs. I must be doing something wrong. (If I counted the albums I sold to visit the UK, though, you could probably double that number.)

Why DIDN'T anyone else vote for the Philistines Jr.? People voted for Turbonegro, for the luvva Otis.

David Raposa, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, well, he asked. ;)

Josh, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

britney and daft punk beat out pavement, dylan, yo la tengo and radiohead. and not one mention of sunny day real estate. for shame. and really people, singles (not even maxi singles) and hot rocks collections? you might as well add "i just called to say I love you".

stevie micheal, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

damn, i knew

gareth, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

damn, i knew i'd forgot something!

gareth, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
Britney Spears and Abba at 2 and 3? What... the... hell...

Griz Wiz, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Britney Spears and Abba at 2 and 3? What... the... hell...

Welcome to ILM..... ;)

JC, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...
What a load of Bollocks.

Sprout, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well before my time, of course, so don't blame me ;-)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In what way, Sprout?

Dr. C, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No country? Not one album? Is it that bad>

Ronan, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

nine months pass...
hello new answers!

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 September 2002 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

10 singles. 90 albums.

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 21 September 2002 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i now have 14 of these cds.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 21 September 2002 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

another day, another bloody list.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 21 September 2002 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

the thing i find most interesting about this list is that, given the amount of canon-bashing and the prevelance of sniffy attitudes towards magazine polls, how completely it conforms to the standard rock canon. take out the singles (Britney etc) and it could have been lifted straight from Q or Mojo.

Wyndham Earl, Saturday, 21 September 2002 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, but it's just not any old list. It's the list voted for by ILM users last year. I think it's a good one.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 September 2002 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

the pleasure i get from seeing i have none is not on this list. damn you discovery and kid a

vic (vicc13), Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

but I think some people refused to vote on the principle that they didn't like lists.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Wyndham: the thing is that it basically proves most ppl here's objection to lists/polls/canons - that they reduce strong individual likes and dislikes into a bland consensus taste. No matter who those people are or where the vote's taking place.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

ok.. hang on. so you're saying that it wasn't *real* ILM people who voted for this list? hence.. what exactly.

help me. i'm confused.

Wyndham Earl, Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, now that roughly 1/3 of ILM's old guard has left and been replaced, I wonder what the list would look like NOW?
I mean we have to factor in C*lum and Allison Houston, now...right?

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Wyndham: the thing is that it basically proves most ppl here's objection to lists/polls/canons - that they reduce strong individual likes and dislikes into a bland consensus taste. No matter who those people are or where the vote's taking place.
Which is why I'm a big fan of the idea of doing a really looong list (say 300), and then only publishing the BOTTOM 100. We can just assume that everyone already has all the stuff thats on all the other top 100s; now we need to know what the BOTTOM 100 are.
And sure, even the Bottom 100 will still be bland consensus taste, but it will be bland consensus taste with raisins and maple syrup.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

No I'm saying that even if you ask a load of people who have strong individual tastes (like ILM) to take part in a poll, what results will be the crossover between those tastes, which is likely to have a fairly bland and familiar look to it, i.e. the stuff a lot of people here like (ABBA, MBV, Magnetic Fields, etc.). People on ILM do not generally dislike lists because they think the albums on them are all crap, they dislike them because of this levelling effect: you end up with a list nobody feels very passionately about or wants to defend. Doing a poll ourselves proved this - to me at least.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

my statistics:
I''ve got 44 but 15 I really like, and none are on my "to buy" list which is about 400 long.

I have 15 of the ones that didn't make it, and i really like 12 of them, and 2 are on my "to buy" list.

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 21 September 2002 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it'd be fun to do this again too...

If it were October I'd even volunteer to tabulate!

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 21 September 2002 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"People on ILM do not generally dislike lists because they think the albums on them are all crap, they dislike them because of this levelling effect: you end up with a list nobody feels very passionately about or wants to defend. Doing a poll ourselves proved this - to me at least."

ok. cool. its an interesting experiment.

i found the high ratings of some of the bands - manics for example - quite interesting, given that they're bands that aren't usually given props on ilm. i suppose the relative anonymity of statistics maybe provides an outlet to vent readers' secret lust of less ilm-friendly factions such as the manics..

Wyndham Earl, Sunday, 22 September 2002 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i found the high ratings of some of the bands - manics for example - quite interesting, given that they're bands that aren't usually given props on ilm. i suppose the relative anonymity of statistics maybe provides an outlet to vent readers' secret lust of less ilm-friendly factions such as the manics..

Belle & Sebastian! Primal Scream! Soft Boys! Radiohead! Weezer! I'd have thought ILM hates the hell out of all of those...

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 September 2002 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, the changing demographic of ilm. i shudder to think of what a nu-list might look like. it might even be good!

i also shudder to think i own/have owned 78 (!!) of these records.

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 22 September 2002 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Sadly only clocking in at 24. Yet no Cancon, no wonder.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)

3 1/3: 1/3 Lazy Line Painter Jane, IYFS, Daft Punk, Madonna.

Graham (graham), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I legitimately own 28.
I have easy access to some form of copy of 26.

Keith McD (Keith McD), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I (still) own about 51 records mentioned in the list. That may soon change if I find the energy to get rid of about half of them. Taste has changed indeed.

nathalie (nathalie), Sunday, 22 September 2002 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i wasn't saying that i owned 10 singles and 90 albums from this list. but that the list has NINE times more albums than singles, i thought that worthy of comment (fwiw, i have 30 of them)

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 22 September 2002 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
I have 48 of those.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 March 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i have 41.

upset, but not surprised, that you-know-who isn't on this list. but this was pre-me coming here, so i couldn't rig the voting box!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 10 March 2003 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm. I have 66 of 'em. Pretty darn good list, I should have expected as much. But that damn MBV at #1? Please.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned threatened to commit hari kari if it didn't win, I imagine.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 March 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got 36 of these. I can get quite nostalgic reading these old ILM threads even though this one was slightly before my time. No Spice Girls or Sex Pistols = whatta drag.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 10 March 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never heard Spiritualized. Until recently, I never heard of them. Maybe I should be banned from ILM by the invisible ink magick.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 10 March 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The obvious lack of a deserved status for The Beatles makes it a pathetic list anyway.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 10 March 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Blah blah blah.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 March 2003 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

37 of these in my household. i expected an ilm list to be less canonical...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 March 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, it isn't that canonical. in places anyway. it's cool. we should do it again sometime, see how it's changed. i didn't arrive on ilm until 9 months after that one...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 March 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I have 20 of those but most them are the canons.

Nick H, Monday, 10 March 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned threatened to commit hari kari if it didn't win, I imagine.

I didn't even vote! I was terribly tickled that even without me it ended up there, though. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

For the record, I better never hear another word about our taste. Love.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 10 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I have 28, so I'm cooler than kilian but not as cool as Nick H :)

oops (Oops), Monday, 10 March 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not nearly as bad as I remember, as these things go.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus, I own 50 of these now. What's happening to me?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 10 March 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I currently have 36 of these, and used to have five more. I have no idea what that means.

I vote for doing this again. I imagine Prince would maybe make the list at this point.

Neudonym, Monday, 10 March 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I have 21 of them now, think I bought but didn't really like Loveless (sorry Ned).

I would vote for a vastly different selection of albums now, must find the thread of individual lists!

jel -- (jel), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Have 20. I would vote so differently now. I think the final list would be way less indie now.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it would be even more indie now

gareth (gareth), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

This list is better than most, but misspelling Genius/GZA
is a total dud.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Riding in that Stutz Bearcat, Jim...

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't remember why i didn't vote in this. anyway i have 14 of those records. (caveat: my copy of 'ok computer' was in my friend's car when it got stolen, i've got disc 4 of the "star time" set, i've had "peel slowly and see" for about 6 months now but it's not mine.)

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 10 March 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
So how about another top 100? Its been nearly 3 years, apparently. No one can still possibly like the Manic Street Preachers.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Allyzay will disabuse you of that conclusion.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

#5!?! How did that happen?!

pete s, Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Way more British people for one (no offense!)

christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

All the more reason for a retread now ...

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

That entire top ten is reason for a retread (though Pet Sounds and Nation of Millions aren't so much "bad" as they are "played")

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

:-( (If only because of number one cause, well, you know.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Nate you are now officially an ILMer. Congratulations!

oops (Oops), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That select band of misfits

Patrick Kinghorn, Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

66. Dinosaur Jr. - Where You Been

This seems to be the most anomalous entry on the list. WTF?

And the lack of hip hop is astounding. What's worse, the hip hop albums present are classic INDIE GUILT albums. And not as much chart pop as there would be today--where would Basement Jaxx & Outkast place, I wonder?

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I voted for about half of the singles on that list!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

And HA! Neutral Milk Hotel in the top ten!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 13 March 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Top 100 list + lotsa indie fawning + very little hip-hop ... a few years later, everyone's less down with indie, more down with hip-hop, somewhat embarassed about the state of the old list, so a new one is conceived.


wait for it ...


... am I talking about a revisited version of the ILM Top 100, or Pitchfork's Top 100 of the 1990's Redux???

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 13 March 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a punchline!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 13 March 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just sitting here waiting for the Pitchfork jokes.

RE: Ian mentioning Outakst: If The Love Below/Speakerboxx would get on there now then I'd be sorry I had revived this.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 13 March 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

also, i think the aphex twin fascination is pretty much over, right?

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 13 March 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

You say that now, but "Goon Gumpas" will live forever

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 13 March 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Only people who really don't much like David Bowie put "Hunky Dory" in a list. His hair looks awful; there's only one great Ronson moment.

I don't think I've ever owned a large enough stereo to be as impressed by the K. Shields oevre as I should.

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Saturday, 13 March 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

who organized this thing in the first?? would they be willing to do it again??

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 13 March 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred's around and about but not active much on the boards anymore. I'm sure you'll find somebody absolutely insane dedicated enough to do it, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

er so what, we vote somehow?

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 13 March 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The methodology was pretty simple as I recall - just list 40 favourite records, maybe there was some weird points thing as well though.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 13 March 2004 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

it may well be interesting. i'll vote!

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 13 March 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Do it:

Dylan 3
Who 2
Trashmen

jim wentworth (wench), Saturday, 13 March 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

give all my votes to the zep!

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 13 March 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I have 41. Maybe we should do it without singles or box sets this time, cause it would make the list simpler. But a redo is a good idea.

Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's an awful idea btw. Though I would still vote.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 13 March 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

it would be even worse now

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 13 March 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i have 51. but i don't think many would make my top 40. haha tom & gareth

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 13 March 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

why?

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 13 March 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Could it get any worse?

Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

call, somebody under 30 ?

eleki-san (eleki-san), Saturday, 13 March 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's an awful idea btw. Though I would still go to the trouble of actually compiling and collating all the votes.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

RE: Ian mentioning Outakst: If The Love Below/Speakerboxx would get on there now then I'd be sorry I had revived this.

Haha, like there's any chance of that possibly happening??? Unless P&J googlers submit their lists, that is...

Maybe we should do it without singles or box sets this time, cause it would make the list simpler.

Simpler maybe, but much less fun, especially as so many of ILX's "
canon is singles anyway. Plus, all *my* favourite records are greatest hits & box sets, so nyeh.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there's a comparing apples and oranges effect about having singles and albums on the same list. We could have a separate singles list. Maybe we should each do a top 10 instead of a top 40 to save Steve or whoever work.

Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell, why don't we make it an all-singles thing? 'Cause having both albums AND singles really does give one too much choice, and this will inevitably result in very few singles making it I think, cuz ppl will think that albums have a bigger chance of making it to the final list.

xpost: separate singles list sounds great, if Steve's ok with it! Haha I'll get to work on my all box sets/rhino comps list for the albums chart now...

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd still vote as i missed out on the last one by two or three months. it's still a bad idea.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd vote for as well, since I was around in 2001. Is someone actually willing to count the votes?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it's still a bad idea

Of course its a bad idea, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is it a bad idea? Because the actual list won't live up to our ideal vision of the ILM top 100 list?

Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it would be even worse now
-- gareth

mostly the top 10-20, i'm thinking. the lower 20 would be a total crapshoot.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that the reasons why ppl think it's a bad idea are:

1-Consensus is always boring

2-There's more people around on ILX now, many of whom have more conservative taste (closely resembling old ILXor's tastes around 2001)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i have to admit, though, not much could be worse than the original list.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

It could be a list of the 100 greatest singer song-writers, that'd be a lot worse.

I will probably vote if there's another one of these, though it's pointless. I like pointless-ness though.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see what would be so bad about it, cause it's just for fun, no? It's not like we'd have to pledge to listen to nothing but those 100 albums. I'd just be curious to see how it turned out. Actually, the worse the list, the more fun it would be.
There should be extra weight given to each person's higher picks so that an album that everyone picked but few rated highly wouldn't get in the top 10.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm afraid the new list will exactly replicate the Rolling Stone top 500 list. Sgt Pepper's will somehow win, and noone will admit to voting for it.

Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

bingo. dont forget the self-congratulation for getting lil jon in at #23

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Pinketron would win this time, being the most important US rock album of 1996.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope everyone did notice this

No country? Not one album? Is it that bad>
-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald...) (webmail), December 19th, 2001

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Pinketron" is such a great typo

Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Only people who really don't much like David Bowie put "Hunky Dory" in a list.

I just don't know what to say here. Apparently I've been fooling myself lo these many years. Oooh, let's fawn all over the sainted Berlin period or David Live or something.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I would vote.

Nick H (Nick H), Saturday, 13 March 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Until last week, I didn't own any of these records.

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 13 March 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd be way too tempted to vote for nothing but alt-country and indie-rap just to cheese people off.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 13 March 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The good old days weren't always so good.

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 13 March 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

2-There's more people around on ILX now, many of whom have more conservative taste (closely resembling old ILXor's tastes around 2001)

What??? People shouldn't vote because they have conservative taste? Would the resulting list be wrong, then?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 13 March 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't around the first time. I'd vote.

chris herrington (chris herrington), Saturday, 13 March 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

What??? People shouldn't vote because they have conservative taste? Would the resulting list be wrong, then?

The argument is that if many ppl with conservative taste vote the list will end up looking just like every other list of the best albums ever, with "Pet Sounds" and "Revolver" and "London Calling" (fwiw I don't really think that will happen; there's still enough ppl with interesting taste here to prevent that, if those ppl vote of course.) Don't get me wrong, I've nothing against ppl with conservative taste - I'm young enough myself to think of the canon as a fun thing to explore as opposed to Those Bastards Holding Us Down; but even I can't see why there should be yet *another* list around that tells us how great Neil Young and Miles Davis are.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 13 March 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

So I'm guessing by that original list that the Talk Talk/Disco Inferno posse hadn't hit town yet (except for Ned maybe?). We can only pray if someone does another list that Judy Collins & Fugazi remain prominent.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 13 March 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

So I'm guessing by that original list that the Talk Talk/Disco Inferno posse hadn't hit town yet (except for Ned maybe?)

No, a fair clutch of those folks were present, like Tim Finney f'r instance. If you read the early posts on this thread you'll see I didn't vote at all (it just wasn't my thing), though that did not prevent a fine victory by you know what. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the next vote will take place outside of that sad parallel universe where Paul Westerberg never met the Stinson brothers?

subgenius (subgenius), Saturday, 13 March 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Just add one rule: records on the Rolling Stone Top 500 are not eligible.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 14 March 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Ding ding ding!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 14 March 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The argument is that if many ppl with conservative taste vote the list will end up looking just like every other list of the best albums ever, with "Pet Sounds" and "Revolver" and "London Calling" (fwiw I don't really think that will happen; there's still enough ppl with interesting taste here to prevent that, if those ppl vote of course.)

From what I've gathered, I think a 2004 list would be less conservative, or at least less rockist. I mean, look at the rap and electronic music entries of that 2001 list... Could it get any more rockist than that? Only two hip hop LPs on the top 50, and they're by Public Enemy and DJ fuckin' Shadow!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 14 March 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

And Main Source and Gza/Genius and Eminem and the trip-hop entrees.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 14 March 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The Heart & Soul Box and Unkown Pleasures!! Those are my favorite entries. The album so nice you have to play it twice!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 March 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait forget what i said re: other hip-hop albums in the top 50, I am stoopid obv.

Yeah, not enough hip-hop, still don't get the DJ Shadow hating. I guess I have an emotional/nostalgic attachment to his music.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I don't exactly hate him, nor Public Enemy, but those two representing hip hop in the top 50 is quite telling. I don't mean to say that the top 100 should be loaded with rap. I guess the preferred genre of ILM majority is still rock, which is reflected on the list. All I'm saying is, that a new vote might put some less obvious rap LPs on the list. Or, more likely, it'd put on the list LPs that are obvious in another way, such as Illmatic, Blueprint etc.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously my favourite record should be at number one, down to my 100th favourite at 100. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Sasha (sgh), Sunday, 14 March 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, where'd that come from?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 15 March 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Or, more likely, it'd put on the list LPs that are obvious in another way

Any record on the list (or a new one) could probably be accused of being obvious.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 15 March 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there's a comparing apples and oranges effect about having singles and albums on the same list. We could have a separate singles list

no way. the combination of formats is the one saving grace of the old list IMHO

i'm in favour of some sort of new poll. the least worst options, in order:
1. singles / single tracks only
2. all formats but certain records ineligible (e.g. Siegbran's suggestion)
3. all formats eligible except one-artist albums

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 15 March 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

A singles list might actually be really really great and unrockist.

Sym (shmuel), Monday, 15 March 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

seeing as we're nearly HALFWAY through this decade, this might be a nice idea

stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 March 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Illmatic and Blueprint are shit (chuckle)

stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 March 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

3. all formats eligible except one-artist albums

Wouldn't this leave out much of electronic music?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 15 March 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

No "Brown Sugar"?

Kornél Kovács (Kornél Kovács), Monday, 15 March 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Screw albums: Post your highly subjective Top 100 Singles of All Time as of Right Now

Screw NME, screw the old ILM lists, screw the canon: Post your highly subjective Top 100 "albums" of all time as of 2003

Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

i really don't like the implications of saying 'too white'.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Saturday, 21 June 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

3. Abba - Gold
2. Britney Spears - "Baby One More Time" (single)

Hello old ILM.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 21 June 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

yowza fuck me

ppl be demented

Just got offed, Saturday, 21 June 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

10. Velvet Underground - Peel Slowly and See (box set)
9. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
8. Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
7. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
6. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
5. Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
4. Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
3. Abba - Gold
2. Britney Spears - "Baby One More Time" (single)
1. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless

^^^most of this shit sucks

"Sloop John B" pretty much still the jam, tho

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Saturday, 21 June 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

Neutral Milk Hotel aside, still looks pretty good (I didn't vote in it btw). I'd do a 2008 poll but the thought of some crappy Pavement album winning is too depressing for words.

Billy Dods, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

xpost. Totally sounds like they're singing "hoist up the junkie" in Sloop John B".

jim, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

"

jim, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

When was the most recent alltime albums poll? This was all I could find

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 20:48 (eleven years ago)

HAS there been anything more recent than this? I remember a lot of best-of-decade and best-of-genre lists, but nothing else this broad.

kadeem hardsonned (some dude), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:11 (eleven years ago)

It's probably best we don't attempt one again, because Kaputt would win and ilx would be burned to the ground.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:13 (eleven years ago)

I kinda fancied it but yeah...jf otm

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:15 (eleven years ago)

Tho I honestly do not think it would win an all time. Best of decade maybe.

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:16 (eleven years ago)

Its not rated *that* highly is it?

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:16 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, I don't think it would win an all-time list, but even with all our varying tastes and how much we enjoy bucking trends, our list would be just as boring as any publication's.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:17 (eleven years ago)

I kind of dont like "best albums ever" I prefer "Favourite albums ever" which I hope would mean people dont feel the need to vote sgt peppers or whatever and instead vote for something more personal to them but it wouldn't work out like that would it?

Could try limiting it to one album per band. Like all the albums of a band are nominated but only the highest point scoring one counts in the results?
Might get a more unpredictable result with vote splitting?

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:23 (eleven years ago)

I suppose kapputt or that erykah badu album would go top 10 so it might not quite be the same results as other lists.

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:24 (eleven years ago)

I certainly cannot find another all time album/tracks poll in the search. Find it hard to believe there hasnt been one though. ILM has changed so much since then. I didn't vote in this one tho I remember it well. How many of the original voters are even left?

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:27 (eleven years ago)

my polling in the last hour indicates that kaputt would probably be a top 5 finisher AT MINIMUM. likely higher. #natesilver

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:29 (eleven years ago)

None — the board illuminati have systematically had them all disappeared. xp

WilliamC, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)

lol

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)

*IF* there was demand and certain personnel are available I'd consider it. But really I'd rather jf do a tracks one too along with it.
If there had been a poll only 5 years ago then I wouldn't bother but that's a long time since one.
Plus it would need to be done this year as I presume the half decade poll might be next year?

۩, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:33 (eleven years ago)

You need to focus your energies on your Anti-Crawdaddy 60s RAWK poll Herman...

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 13 February 2014 08:35 (eleven years ago)

what is crawdaddy?
and nah, there's never been much enthusiasm for a 60s rock poll outside of yourself, stirmonster and fastnbulbous. I only ever really wanted to do the 80s rock poll. I hada vision for that and saw it through. The 70s poll happened because quite a lot of posters asked for it due to the success of the 80s poll. Plus,most people outside of seandalai & myself dont know this, but during voting for the 70s poll I actually got abuse/threats on voting forms. "fuck off ag why are you doing a rockist poll" "screw your rockist polls" "get the fuck off ilm or else" type shit. Not much fun, eh?

If I did a poll I'd much rather it was a poll ALL of ilm could take part in so people dont do the rockist shit.

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 09:03 (eleven years ago)

Kaputt wouldn't win. We should do this again.

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 13 February 2014 09:55 (eleven years ago)

let's not forget this poll predates all of hot chip's albums too

nathey, Thursday, 13 February 2014 09:56 (eleven years ago)

lol you trying to put me off nathey?

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 09:56 (eleven years ago)

who is gonna mention junior boys and lcd soundsystem to really put me off? haha

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 09:57 (eleven years ago)

haha

nathey, Thursday, 13 February 2014 10:33 (eleven years ago)

also i would welcome a 'personal favourite' album list over the usual 'which do you think is the best' album list for sure.

nathey, Thursday, 13 February 2014 10:37 (eleven years ago)

'Get the fuck off ilm or else'?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 13 February 2014 10:41 (eleven years ago)

nathey yeah - but obviously a lot of people do have favourites that are also in the best of lists.

Wouldn't Kapputt be one of the favourites rather than best evers?

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 10:48 (eleven years ago)

I do like the idea of allowing all albums by an act to be nominated/voted for but only including the album with the highest votes (maybe two albums) in the results. But others may not like that.

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 10:51 (eleven years ago)

Other ways of doing it could be only allowing voting for a max of 20 albums each decade? (2000-2014 for purposes of the poll would be one decade)

And if the maximum on a ballot is 100 then you get to vote for plenty of albums through the decades. Obviously if you only want to vote for 00s or 90s albums you can. The choice would be up to the individual.

Any other suggestions?

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 11:29 (eleven years ago)

Idk you could do best albums ballots but then just condense them into a best acts rollout

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 13 February 2014 12:09 (eleven years ago)

It wouldn't be best albums anything.It would be 'favourite' in the hope voters didn't feel compelled to vote for usual suspects.
for instance me voting for a redd kross, god machine or screaming trees album over say beatles,stones,dylan.

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 12:24 (eleven years ago)

personally think this is a cool thing to revisit and would be very interested to see how it plays out.

charlie h, Thursday, 13 February 2014 13:01 (eleven years ago)

Who needs another boring list? I'd much rather berate people for not liking pop music enough.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 13 February 2014 13:08 (eleven years ago)

this would be fun. isn't it "records" though? that means singles too.

g simmel, Thursday, 13 February 2014 13:18 (eleven years ago)

well i was hoping someone johnny fever would takeover the tracks version. But if he chose not to do it maybe someone else would?
I imagine back then there was a lot less taking part (i was around but didnt vote as,lol, i wasnt into polls.) hence it being a combined list.

as I said earlier im fed up with genre polls and , if i did a poll, id like to do one EVERYONE can take part it rather than just jazz/metal/rock dudes.

Anyone against the max amount of votes per decade rule I was thinking of? Or the only allowing one or two albums per artist in the results to avoid several bands dominating?

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 13:25 (eleven years ago)

*someone like...

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 13:25 (eleven years ago)

the only all-time poll has a lack of hip hop,jazz, metal,country, dance music etc and if the EOY polls are anything to go by I see no reason for decent results.

ESPECIALLY if we frame it as vote for your personal favourites rather than "best ever".

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 13:27 (eleven years ago)

I certainly cannot find another all time album/tracks poll in the search.

Close enough: ILM POLLS THE 20TH CENTURY'S BEST TRACKS ››› YOUR RESULTS THREAD ‹‹‹

pariah newsletter (seandalai), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:08 (eleven years ago)

not albums tho! and since you and sick mouthy are on board..(its nicks idea really btw)

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:13 (eleven years ago)

if you really want to do this I suggest you get in line here ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

bourgie tagger (crüt), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:20 (eleven years ago)

its not an artists poll. lets get that straight. This has nothing to do with those

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:28 (eleven years ago)

69. Turbonegro - "I Got Erection" (single)

this poll is perfect, stop trying to fix what isn't broken imo

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:42 (eleven years ago)

this was done in 2001. time for an update.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:47 (eleven years ago)

an update featuring my "top 100" exclusively, by the way. i feel this is the best way to go.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:47 (eleven years ago)

i'd be interested to see what an all-time albums poll produces on current ILX

it's a great opportunity to learn exactly how insular our community is

ciderpress, Thursday, 13 February 2014 20:50 (eleven years ago)

Nick has started it
ILX favourite albums of all time nominations and ting open until April 1st

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 20:53 (eleven years ago)

i'd be interested to see what an all-time albums poll produces on current ILX

it's a great opportunity to learn exactly how insular our community is

― ciderpress, Thursday, February 13, 2014

etc.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 13 February 2014 21:01 (eleven years ago)

I was rooting for a 60s version of the weird/heavy/etc 70s and 80s polls. But I'm told no one cares.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 13 February 2014 22:28 (eleven years ago)

guaged it for a whole year and there was a whole 6 ppl interested :(

۩, Thursday, 13 February 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)

How many people voted in the jazz poll? That seemed to go well. I think people would participate.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 13 February 2014 22:35 (eleven years ago)


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