This POLL Will Become the Anthem of Your EMO Voting Thread / You're Two Floors Down CAMPAIGNING in the Back Room.

Thank you to everyone who participated in our nomination process. We have accumulated 475 sad, sad emo albums (and pop-punk, ska - not much of that - and other sundry mall rock classics) for this poll.

You have 30 votes for your ballots. Please copy/paste directly from the list. I've hopefully weeded out all duplicates.

Fill out your ballot on a standard email body and email it to ilxemopoll AT gmail DOT com by Sunday, March 5th.

Now to totally screw up ilx searches for terms for many years to come w/ this enormous nominations list:

3 - Dark Days Coming
89 Cubs - There Are Giants in the Earth
A.F.I. - Sing the Sorrow
Aereogramme - A Story In White
Aereogramme - Sleep And Release
AFI - Decemberunderground
Against Me! - Is the Eternal Cowboy
Against Me! - New Wave
Against Me! - Reinventing Axl Rose
Against Me! - Transgender Disphoria Blues
Alexisonfire - Alexisonfire
Algernon Cadwallader - Some Kind of Cadwallader
Alkaline Trio - Crimson
Alkaline Trio - Maybe I'll Catch Fire
Alkaline Trio - Self-titled
All Time Quarterback - All Time Quarterback
All-American Rejects - Move-Along
American Football - American Football
American Nightmare - Background Music
Angel Hair - Pregnant With the Senior Class
Antarctigo Vespucci - Leavin' La Vida Loca
Antioch Arrow - In Love With Jetts
Antioch Arrow - The Lady is a Cat
Armor For Sleep - Dream to Make Believe
Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead
At The Drive-In - In/Casino/Out
At The Drive-In - Relationship of Command
At the Drive-In - Vaya EP
Avail - 4AM Friday
Avril Lavigne - Let Go
Banner Pilot - Hearts Beats Pacific
Bear Vs. Shark - Terrorhawk
Bedhead - Transaction de Novo
Beefeater – House Burning Down
Beefeater – Plays for Lovers
Benton Falls - Fighting Starlight (how is that still missing I wonder)
Billy Talent - Billy Talent
blink-182 - blink-182
blink-182 - Enema of the State
blink-182 - Take Off Your Pants and Jacket
Blonde Redhead - Fake Can be Just as Good?
Bob Tilton - Crescent
Bomb the Music Industry! - Vacation
Boys Life - Departures and Landfalls
Boys Night Out - Trainwreck
Boysetsfire - After the Eulogy
Braid - Age of Octeen
Braid - Frame & Canvas
Braid - Lucky to Be Alive
Braid - Movie Music Vol. 1
Braid - No Coast
Brand New - Deja Entendu
Brand New - The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me
Brand New - Your Favorite Weapon
Brandston - Letterbox
Brandtson - Dial In Sound
Brandtson - Letterbox
Brandtson - Send Us A Signal
Breathing Walker – S/T
Bright Eyes - Fevers and Mirrors
Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
Bright Eyes - Letting Off the Happiness
Bright Eyes - Lifted or The Story is in the Soil, Keep Your Ear to the Ground
Broccoli - Home
Brody – Against Forgetting 7”
Burning Airlines - Mission: Control!
Camera Obscura - To Change the Shape of an Envelope
Cap'n Jazz - Analphabetapolothology
Cartel - Chroma
Celeste - Misanthrope(s)
Cerberus Shoal – And Farewell to Hide Tide
Chamberlain - Fate's Got a Driver
Chore - Take My Mask and Breathe
Christie Front Drive - s/t
Chumped - Teenage Retirement
Circa Survive - Blue Sky Noise
Circa Survive - Juturna
Circa Survive - On Letting Go
Circle Takes the Square - As the Roots Undo
Clikatat Ikatowi - Orchestrated and Conducted By
Clikitat Ikatowi – Live August 29th and 30th, 1995
Cobra Starship - ¡Viva la Cobra!
Coheed & Cambria - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth
Coheed and Cambria - Second Stage Turbine Blade
Constantines - Tournament Of Hearts
Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind
Converge - Axe To Fall
Converge - Jane Doe
Converge - You Fail Me
Copeland – Beneath Medicine Tree
Copeland – Eat, Sleep, Repeat
Copeland – In Motion
Copeland – Ixora
Crash of Rhinos - Distal
Crying - Beyond the Fleeting Gales
Cursive - Domestica
Cursive - The Ugly Organ
Dag Nasty - Can I Say
Dag Nasty - Wig out at Denko's
Dashboard Confessional - A Mark, A Mission, A Brand, A Scar
Dashboard Confessional - The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most
Dashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army Romance
Dear Nora - Mountain Rock
Death Cab for Cutie - Plans
Death Cab for Cutie - Something About Airplanes
Death Cab for Cutie - The Photo Album
Death Cab for Cutie - Transatlanticism
Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes
Death to Tyrants - Experience Will Be Your Monument And Your Love
Decibully - City of Festivals
Decibully - Sing Out America!
Desaparecidos - Payola
Desaparecidos - Read Music/Speak English
Dillinger Four - Midwestern Songs of the Americas
Dillinger Four - Situationist Comedy
Dillinger Four - Versus God
Discount - Crash Diagnostic
Discount - Last One
Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
Driver Friendly - Bury a Dream
Eastern Youth - 365-Step Blues
Eastern Youth - 其処カラ何ガ見エルカ (What Can You See From Your Place?)
Eastern Youth - 雲射抜ケ声 (May My Scream Reach the Clouds)
Elliott - False Cathedrals
Elliott - US Songs
Embrace - Embrace
Empire! Empire! (I Was a Lonely Estate) - What It Takes to Move Forward
Engine Kid - Angel Wings
Engine Kid - Bear Catching Fish
Envy - All the Footprints You've Ever Left and the Fear Expecting Ahead
Envy - Insomniac Doze
Ethel Meserve - The Milton Abandonment
Everyone Everywhere – Everyone Everywhere
Fabric - Body of Water
Fall Out Boy - Folie a Deux
Fall Out Boy - From Under the Cork Tree
Fall Out Boy - Infinity on High
Fall Out Boy - Take This to Your Grave
Far - Water And Solutions
Farside ‎– The Monroe Doctrine
Finch - What It Is To Burn
Fireside - Elite
Fireside - Uomini D'onore
Fisticuffs Bluff – S/T
Five Knuckle Chuckle - All Hammed Up!
Five Knuckle Chuckle - Charliee Horse
Foxing - Dealer
Foxing - The Albatross
Franklin – Major Taylor 7”
Franklin – S/T
Frodus - And We Washed Our Weapons in the Sea
Fuel – Monuments to Excess
Fugazi - Repeater
Further Seems Forever - Hide Nothing
Further Seems Forever - How to Start a Fire
Further Seems Forever - The Moon is Down
Garden Variety - S/T
Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About
Give Up The Ghost - We're Down Til We're Underground
Glassjaw - Worship and Tribute
Glocca Morra – Just Married
Gospel - The Moon Is a Dead World
Grade - Under the Radar
Gray Matter - Food for Thought
Heroin – S/T 12”
Hey Mercedes - Every Night Fireworks
Hey Mercedes - Lose Control
Honor Role - Rictus
Honor Role – The Pretty Song
Hoover - Hoover
Hoover - The Lurid Traversal of Route 7
Hop Along - Get Disowned
Hopefall - The Satellite Years
Hot Water Music - Forever and Counting
Hot Water Music - Fuel for the Hate Game
Hotelier - Goodness
Hotelier - Home, Like Noplace There Is
Hum – Downward is Heavenward
Hum – You’d Prefer an Astronaut
Husking Bee - 4 Color Problem
i hate myself - 4 songs
i hate myself - ten songs
i hate sex - Circle Thinking
Ignition – Complete Services
in/humanity – the history behind the mystery/music to kill yourself by
in/humanity – the nutty anti-christ
Indian Summer - Discography
Indian Summer - Science 1994
Into It. Over It. - Intersections
Into It. Over It. – Proper
J. Church – Arbor Vitae
J. Church – My Favorite Place
J. Church – Nostalgic for Nothing
J. Church – The Drama of Alienation
Jack's Mannequin - Everything in Transit
Jack's Mannequin - The Glass Passenger
Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart
Jawbox - S/T
Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
Jawbreaker - Bivouac
Jawbreaker - Dear You
Jeff Rosenstock - We Cool?
Jeff Rosenstock - WORRY.
Jejune - This Afternoons Malady
Jeromes Dream - Seeing Means More Than Safety
Jets to Brazil - Four Cornered Night
Jets to Brazil - Orange Rhyming Dictionary
Jets to Brazil - Perfecting Loneliness
Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Jimmy Eat World - Futures
Jimmy Eat World - Static Prevails
Joan of Arc - A Portable Model of
John Henry West – S/T 7”
Johnny Foreigner - Johnny Foreigner vs. Everything
Johnny Foreigner - Waited Up 'til It was Light
Joyce Manor - Cody
Joyce Manor - Joyce Manor
Joyce Manor - Never Hungover Again
Joyce Manor - Of All Things I Will Soon Grow Tired
Julien Baker - Sprained Ankle
Juno - A Future Lived in Past Tense
Juno - This Is the Way It Goes and Goes and Goes
Karate - In Place of Real Insight
Karate - Karate
Karate - The Bed Is in the Ocean
Kerosene 454 - At Zero
Knapsack - Day Three of My New Life
Knapsack - Silver Sweepstakes
Knapsack - This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right Now
La Dispute - The Rooms of the House
Lagwagon - Duh
Last Days Of April - Angel Youth
Lifetime - Hello Bastards
Lifetime - Jersey's Best Dancers
Los Campesinos! - Romance is Boring
Lync - These Are Not Fall Colors
Lync – Remembering the Fireballs
Mae - Destination: Beautiful
Mae - The Everglow
Matchbook Romance - Stories and Alibis
Matchbook Romance - Voices
Maximillian Colby – S/T
Merel - S/T
mewithoutYou - Catch for Us the Foxes
Mineral - The Power of Failing
Mock Orange - The Record Play
Modern Baseball - Holy Ghost
Mohinder - Discography
Moneen - Are We Really Happy With Who We Are Right Now?
Moss Icon - Lyburnum
Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This to Memory
Motion City Soundtrack - Even if It Kills Me
Motion City Soundtrack - Go
Motion City Soundtrack - My Dinosaur Life
Moving Mountains - Pneuma
My Chemical Romance - Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys
My Chemical Romance - The Black PArade
My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
Native Nod - Today Puberty, Tomorrow the World
Neil Perry - Lineage Situation
New End Original - Thriller
NOFX - Punk in Drublic
North of America - Brothers, Sisters
Nuzzle – San Lorenzo’s Blues
Off With their Heads! - In desolation
Okara - Months Like Years
On the Might of Princes - Where You Are and Where You Want to Be
One Last Wish - One Last Wish
Orchid - Chaos Is Me
Orchid - Dance Tonight, Revolution Tomorrow
Orchid - Gatefold
Ordination of Aaron – S/T
oso oso - The Yunahon Mixtape
Oswego - II
Oswego - Just Getting Warmed Up EP
Owls - Owls
Ozma - Rock and Roll Part Three
Panic at the Disco - Pretty. Odd
Panic! at the Disco - A Fever you Can’t Sweat Out
Paramore - All We Know Is Falling
Paramore - Brand New Eyes
Paramore - Paramore
Pedro the Lion - The Only Reason I Feel Secure
Pedro the Lion - Winners Never Quit
Pedro the Lion – Control
Pedro the Lion – It’s Hard to Find A Friend
Pedro the Lion – Whole EP
Penfold - Amateurs and Professionals
Penfold - Our First Taste of Escape
Pg 99 - Document #8
Pianos Become the Teeth - Keep You
Piebald - If it Weren't for Venetian Blinds, it Would be Curtains for Us All
Pinegrove - Cardinal
Planes Mistaken for Stars - Fuck With Fire
Planes Mistaken for Stars - Knife in the Marathon EP
Planes Mistaken for Stars - Planes Mistaken for Stars
Planes Mistaken for Stars - S/T
Policy of Three – Dead Dog Summer
Pop Unknown - If Arsenic Fails, Try Algebra
Portraits of Past - S/T
Pretty Girls Make Graves - Élan Vital
Pretty Girls Make Graves - Good Health
Pretty Girls Make Graves - New Romance
Propagandhi - Less Talk, More Rock
Quicksand - Manic Compression
Quicksand - Slip
Rainer Maria - A Better Version of Me
Rainer Maria - Long Knives Drawn
Rainer Maria - Look Now Look Again
Rainer Maria - Past Worn Searching
Refused - The Shape Of Punk To Come
Rest of My Life - Rest of My Life
Rilo Kiley - The Execution of All Things
Rites of Spring - Rites of Spring
Rival Schools - United by Fate
Royal Headache - High
RVIVR - Bicker and Breathe
Saetia - A Retrospective
Samiam - self-titled
Saosin - Saosin
Saves the Day - In Reverie
Saves the Day - Stay What You Are
Saves the Day - Through Being Cool
Say Anything - ...Is a Real Boy
Seaweed - Four
Sense Field - Building
Sense Field - Tonight and Forever
Sensefield - Building
Seven Storey Mountain - Based on a True Story
Shelter - Mantra
Shiner - Lula Divinia
Shiner - The Egg
Shotmaker - Discography
Shudder to Think - Funeral at the Movies
Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record
Shutdown - Icarus
Sleepytime Trio - Memory-Minus
Small Brown Bike - Dead Reckoning
Small Brown Bike - Our Own Wars
Smart Went Crazy - Now We're Even
Snowing - Fuck Your Emotional Bullshit
Snowing - I Could Do Whatever I Wanted If I Wanted
Solea - Solea
Something Corporate - Leaving Through the Window
Something Corporate - North
Sorority Noise – Joy Departed
Soulside – Hot Bodi-gram
Soulside – Less Deep inside Keeps
Sparkmarker - Products and Accessories
Sparta - Porcelain
Spy Vs Spy - S/T
Still Life – From Angry Heads with Skyward Eyes
Straylight Run - Straylight Run
Straylight Run - The Needles, The Space
Streetlight Manifesto - Everything Goes Numb
Sunday's Best - Poised to Break
Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
Sunny Day Real Estate - How It Feels to Be Something On
Sunny Day Real Estate - LP2
Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide
Sweep The Leg Johnny - Sto Cazzo
Sweep The Leg Johnny - Tomorrow We Will Run Faster
Swing Kids - discography
Taking Back Sunday - Louder Now
Taking Back Sunday - Tell All Your Friends
Taking Back Sunday - Where You Want to Be
Teen Suicide - It’s the Big Joyous Celebration, Let’s Stir the Honeypot
Texas Is the Reason - Do You Know Who You Are?
The Academy Is… - Almost Here
The Anniversary - Designing a Nervous Breakdown
The Appleseed Cast - Low Level Owl
The Appleseed Cast - Mare Vitalis
The Appleseed Cast - Two Conversations
The Ataris - Anywhere but Here
The Ataris - Blue Skies, Broken Hearts... Next 12 Exits
The Ataris - End Is Forever
The Ataris - So Long, Astoria
The Blood Brothers - Burn, Piano Island, Burn
The Blood Brothers - Crimes
The Blood Brothers - March On, Electric Children!
The Blood Brothers - Young Machetes
The Brave Little Abacus - Just Got Back From the Discomfort-We're Alright
The Brave Little Abacus - Masked Dancers: Concern in So Many Things You Forget Where You Are
The Dahlia Seed – Survived By
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
The Dismemberment Plan - Change
The Dismemberment Plan - Is Terrified
The Early November - The Mother, The Mechanic, and the Path
The Early November - The Room's Too Cold
The Front Bottoms - Back on Top
The Front Bottoms – Talon of the Hawk
The Gaslight Anthem - The 59 Sound
The Get Up Kids - Guilt Show
The Get Up Kids - On a Wire
The Get Up Kids - Red Letter Day EP
The Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About
The Get Up Kids - Woodson EP
The Get-Up Kids - Four Minute Mile
The Good Life - Album Of The Year
The Good Life - Blackout
The Good Life - Novena on a Nocturne
The Hal Al Shedad – S/T
The Hated - Everysong
The Hated - What Was Behind
The Hated – Like the Days 2x7”
The Jazz June - The Medicine
The Jealous Sound - A Gentle Reminder
The Jealous Sound - Kill Them with Kindness
The Lapse - Betrayal!
The Lapse - Heaven Ain't Happening
The Locust - Plague Soundscapes
The Locust - The Locust
The Menzingers - Rented World
The Movielife - Forty Hour Train Back to Penn
The One AM Radio - A Name Writ In Water
The One AM Radio - The Hum of the Electric Air!
The One AM Radio - This Too Shall Pass
The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good
The Promise Ring - Very Emergency
The Rye Coalition – Hee Saw Dhuh Kaet
The Rye Coalition – Their Side of the Karp/Rye Split 12”
The Secret Stars - S/T
The Spill Canvas - One Fell Swoop
The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It
The Used - In Love and Death
The Used - The Used
The Van Pelt – Sultans of Sentiment
The VSS - Nervous Circuits
The VSS – 21:51
The Weakerthans - Fallow
The Weakerthans - Left and Leaving
The Weakerthans - Reconstruction Site
The Wonder Years - No Closer to Heaven
The World Is a Beautiful Place and I Am No Longer Afraid to Die – Whenever, If Ever
The World is a Beautiful Place and I am Not Afraid to Die - Harmlessness
The Wrens - The Meadowlands
These Arms Are Snakes - Oxeneers, of the Lion Sleepers when the Antelope Go Home
These Arms Are Snakes - Tail Swallower and Dove
Thirty Ought Six - Hag Seed
Three Mile Pilot - The Chief Assassin to the Sinister
Thrice - Artist in the Ambulance
Thrice - Vheissu
Thursday - A City By the Light Divided
Thursday - Full Collapse
Thursday - No Devolución
Thursday - War All the Time
Tigers Jaw - Tigers Jaw
Tiny Moving Parts – This Couch Is Long and Full of Friendship
Title Fight - Shed
Torches to Rome - S/T
Touche Amore - Is Survived By
Touche Amore - Parting The Sea Between Brightness And Me
Touché Amoré - Stage Four
Turnover - Peripheral Vision
Twelve Hour Turn - Perfect Progress, Perfect Destruction
Twelve Hour Turn - The Victory of Flight
Twelve Hour Turn/I Hate Myself - Split LP
Unbroken - Life.Love.Regret
Underoath - Define the Great Line
Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety
Uniform Choice – Staring into the Sun
Universal Order of Armageddon – S/T 12”
Universal Order of Armageddon – The Switch is Down
Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You
V/A - Post Marked Stamps Compilation
Waxahatchee - Cerulean Salt
Weezer - Pinkerton
Yaphet Kotto - The Killer Was in the Government Blankets
Yellowcard - Ocean Avenue
Yellowcard - One For The Kids
Youth Funeral - See You When I See You

fuck yeah

thanks for doing this Mordy

Here are some albums I've discovered so far through this poll that I'd like to include in my ballot:

I Hate Myself - Four Songs EP
American Football - S/T
Rainer Marie - Look Now, Look Again
Dear Nora - Mountain Rock
Bomb the Music Industry! - Vacation

i hate myself i am especially surprised by how much i like - based on the name i was not expecting much

A reminder that you can also browse the nominations here list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18SXDjfBDU68ujpQnAephcYuQl36PWTFRNRfgHnd4E08/

And the spotify playlist here:
http://open.spotify.com/user/mordys/playlist/1zWI04ISPBer8XlzI3hb5D

xp yeah esp. where they were basically a goof on the genre they had some great tunes

Also I'd like to thank everyone for not nominating any Good Charlotte albums.

ah whoops, i knew i forgot to nominate all of the other mewithoutyou albums

Sample track from Okara - Months Like Years

neither Juno album is on Spotify or Bandcamp (which I find weird for a few reasons) and afaik can only be heard via these youtube playlists, only the first of which actually contains the entire album
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3A033AC0F59F0BD1
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLupYV4mTfPgDrNsMkmxKEUxVPv4uuQpuS

i can't imagine these albums need me to campaign for them however i consider them not only the pinnacle of the genre but among the greatest albums ever made and any one who hasn't heard either should listen to both:

deja entendu
war all the time

Oh man, this is going to be fun.

I spotted one duplicate: Letterbox is listed twice, once for 'Brandston', once for 'Brandtson'.

What do they sound like?

Okara = mathy/dissonant/trebly/lo-fi; less screaming on Months Like Years

xp

Listening to a lot of these nominations is a weird experience for me. I get to relive both what drew me to some of this music as a teenager and also what pushed me away.

(I'm going for the most emo post.)

Speaking of which, I'll finally be able to properly digitize the 1996 emo cassette I played on after my USB tape deck arrives in the next week or two, lol.

Since I'm not sure how well-known The Appleseed Cast is around here, I just want to give a shout out to their masterpiece(s), Low Level Owl. It's like the title track of SDRE's Rising Tide stretched to two hours. It has everything. For everyone. It's that good.

Vol. 1

Vol. 2

xp - What's the tracklist?

Listening to a lot of these nominations is a weird experience for me. I get to relive both what drew me to some of this music as a teenager and also what pushed me away.

― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 20 February 2017 18:04 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I get this, for example Thursday are a band I used to absolutely love but had stopped listening to by my early twenties, and I don't know whether I can face going "back there."

i must just have very high tolerance for going back in time. i've seen thursday and dashboard both live this year and loved both shows unapologetically

feel like there's a lot of continuity between late-'90s emo (texas is the reason et al) and popular mid-2000s emo in armor for sleep's dream to make believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1novIhpL7LY

btw ppl voting in this poll who haven't listened to the one texas is the reason album, pls treat yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtIDgu3Cm4

Haha, I'm playing that right now!

ok I'm gonna make my Juno pitch and then shut up about it

This is the Way it Goes and Goes and Goes
I think a lot of us go through that phase when we're young and we want things that are just ours. That's why I spent a lot of my adolescence listening to british bands no one else around me gave a fuck about or had even heard of. In the same way, Juno were an obvious band for me to latch onto because even at the time (the late 90s / early aughts) it didn't seem like they were getting the shine of other bands in their orbit (most obviously the Dismemberment Plan, with whom they split a 7-inch [their half was better imo]). Anyway, TITWIGAGAG still sounds fresh and dynamic to me thousands of listens later. The way "All Your Friends are Comedians" (and of the best singles post-hardcore ever produced) shifts back and forth from 6/8 to 4/4 without a halt in intensity always amazes me. No other band (with one possible exception) ever used three guitarists with greater ingenuity and grace - listen to the overlapping melodies and tones in "The Great Salt Lake." No other band combined the dynamics of post-rock ("Leave a Clean Camp...", "January Arms") with an emo feel more convincingly. I named my first college radio show after "A Listening Ear." As a now 30-year-old miserable basement fuckboy this is still completely my shit.

Sample tracks: "All Your Friends are Comedians," "The Great Salt Lake," "The Young Influentials"

A Future Lived in Past Tense
"Kitchen sink final albums" are one of my favorite kinds (see also: Young Machetes). In another thread, we were discussing how when you're young and impressionable, you're especially vulnerable to the whims of tastemakers, and I remember Pitchfork's middling review (basically slamming it for being too indulgent) causing me a lot of angst. I think this must have been one of the first albums I loved *for* its flaws and not in spite of them. The ludicrous song titles, the beyond-cryptic lyrics and even more anguished vocals, the glacially paced songs - I still love it all. The harmonic details are still completely ridiculous, now aided by Nate Mendel (SDRE, the Foos) on bass, and again what really impresses me is the fluidity of the songwriting and performances. Despite the many genres being touched on (now with an added 70s grandiosity) nothing feels artificially synthesized. This is one of those records you don't come back from after making, so I was the opposite of surprised when they split afterwards. I'm still angry that it's impossible to buy either of these albums on vinyl for less than three figures.

Sample tracks: "Covered With Hair," "Help is on the Way," "The Trail of Your Blood in the Snow"

Simon completely otm.

No other band (with one possible exception)
Sonic Youth?

My picks for A Future Lived would be "When I Was in ______" and "We Slept in Rented Rooms" btw

I was actually thinking of R*diohead there but right after I wrote it I knew I'd regret it lol

I thought you meant the Allman Brothers.

Seriously, that's some review. I'll listen to more Juno, for sure.

This is the first ILM poll I've been part of. Do people usually pitch for some/all of their nominations?

Logistical questions: Do we number our ballots? And can we vote for less than 30?

You can vote for fewer than 30. I'll let ArchCarrier answer whether you should number your ballot.

xp Often people do pitch for some of their nominations but it's not mandatory.

generally it's a good idea to campaign for beloved nominees if they're not well known, it can really shake up the results

I think TITR is gonna do well which by all lights it deserves.

xxp - No, you don't need to number your ballots, but make sure to start with your #1 album and list them from top to bottom.

Benton Falls - Fighting Starlight (how is that still missing I wonder)

Will take it as a compliment my parenthesized bewilderment got incorporated as fitting part of an emo album title.
People should listen to this if not known yet, for me some sort of missing link between Jawbox and Mineral or American Football with occasional screaming.

Very emo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G7sK3l9Khk

fuck I forgot to nominate Dismembermant Plan Is Terrified

Kinda kicking myself for not nominating Tegan and Sara's The Con. Nobody really calls it emo but it fits the definition as well as 70% of this list

Will take it as a compliment my parenthesized bewilderment got incorporated as fitting part of an emo album title.

indicative maybe of the genre that it didn't immediately jump out to me when i was scanning the list

fuck I forgot to nominate Dismembermant Plan Is Terrified

is terrified is on the list?

Here are some albums I've discovered so far through this poll that I'd like to include in my ballot:

I Hate Myself - Four Songs EP
American Football - S/T

yes! love these two, glad to see they're getting a little traction

also a heads up: you've got get up kids' something to write home about twice (with and without 'the'). might be my fault for nominating it without the the, in fact. sorrryyyyyy

^^ under "the dismemberment plan" btw, those the's are hell

Did no one really nominate anything by Rise Against? The Sufferer and the Witness seems like it would fit. I listened to "The Good Left Undone" a decent amount that year.

Ha, it occurred to me because "All Your Friends Are Comedians" made me think a bit of a non-mersh Rise Against (not a bad thing) in an oblique way.

so painful going thru this playlist. just got up to mark mission brand scar and was like i would love to listen to this album for the 10th time this year but i must skip it bc i have like 250 albums yet to go.

Although I guess the Juno album came out two years before the first Rise Against album so they would be the mersh "Comedians" if my random mental associations amounted to anything.

xp

Are you planning to listen to every album?

At the time, it felt like Thirty Ought Six were at least fairly well-known, but I feel like they're literally never mentioned anymore.

Hag Seed will be very close to the top of my ballot, I wanted to make sure to campaign for them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UYUMJlLmz8

In high school, Sunny Day Real Estate was the most important band to me. Jeremy Enigk contributed guest vocals to the song "Tourmaline" from this album which is what led me to track it down. Like literally every album that will make my ballot, it's one of those records I rarely listen to these days, but it's one that still holds up.

Anyway, power trio with lead bass!! Fuck, I love this record so much.

Are you planning to listen to every album?

i'm trying to -- we'll see how far i get

is terrified is on the list?

phew! the split listing messed me up I guess. definitely the most emo Plan album.

Now I'm feeling a little bad that I didn't listen to this Juno album in 1999.

You singlehandedly caused their demise, I'm told.

so painful going thru this playlist. just got up to mark mission brand scar and was like i would love to listen to this album for the 10th time this year but i must skip it bc i have like 250 albums yet to go.

― Mordy, Monday, February 20, 2017 4:09 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Def finding this to be an issue as well. Think I might just double down on my favs and re-familiarize myself with those then do the brunt of my discovery during the countdown and after.

Lol xp

Two oldies that are not on Spotify:

Indian Summer - Science 1994
Mohinder - Discography

It's slowly dawning on me that I might be the oldest person on this thread.

im 35 idk

37 ftw

didn't like straylight run much when it first came out - i think bc i didn't like taking back sunday back then (only really got into them a little bit after where you want to be and until today i'm not a huge fan of tell all your friends) but this is very nice + pleasant

i like this early november album too

which one?

the room's too cold

yeah love that album. I was not ready for the massive three disc 'the mother the mechanic and the path' concept album when it came out. wasn't expecting it. grew to like it and it actually primed me for the shift in sound/style that brand new introduced a few months later w 'The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me'

It's funny bc I was thinking this album kinda reminds me of a less literate deja entendu

(No pejorative intended)

the Chumped vocalist reminds me a lot of Andrea Zollo vox

gonna try to listen to at least all the multiple nomination bands I've near heard, except for Saves the Day, for reasons

first up...Braid, maybe?

whats your saves the day beef?

first up...Braid, maybe?

Frame and Canvas a great place to start imho

A DOZEN ROSES IN THE CAR / AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE

^^ one of the great lines in emo history

Wait
For
Everything emo in you
Comes out

xxxxp - I'll be 40 in April, so I guess that settles it.

Deja Entendu suffers from having such a brilliant and novel opening track (after the intro). The rest of the album doesn't really stand out for me, especially after having heard almost nothing but emo for the past week. 'Jaws Theme Swimming' is great, though.
I'll definitely relisten before I vote, but for now I don't really get all the praise.

deja is great but I much prefer their next one

BTW, is there a technical term for that trick where a singer overlaps the end of the previous line with the next one, like Brand New does in 'Sic transit gloria' and 'Jaws Theme Swimming'?
My favorite example of this is Kim Gordon in 'JC' from Dirty.

I'm thinking of starting a thread about this technique.

whats your saves the day beef?

too strongly associated with a problematic person in my life (the emo-est of beefs)

didn't like straylight run much when it first came out - i think bc i didn't like taking back sunday back then (only really got into them a little bit after where you want to be and until today i'm not a huge fan of tell all your friends) but this is very nice + pleasant

― Mordy, Monday, February 20, 2017 7:25 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

both straylight run albums are incredible imo, they're both kinda reactionary non-emo emo albums, especially the first, which exists in a v strange aesthetic space between emo and singer-songwriter-y stuff. second is a great ambitious indie pop album like the format's dog problems

there are so many saves the day records and they're all good-to-great but i always rep most for the least emo and most power-pop of their records, in reverie, the songwriting is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBh6ueNaN6c

got busy with family and missed the end of the nominations period, but the list looks awesome, will have to start whittling down ASAP, and try some of these ones out, Thirty Ought Six sounds really interesting on first blush, i still love SDRE's Diary a lot so anything Enigk-related is an automatic listen.

I have to rep for my nomination Five Knuckle Chuckle, they are absolutely skate-punk (w/ slighly pop-emo lyrics at times) but really great nonetheless and I think the voters in this thread would be the most likely on this site to enjoy this particular shit. Both albums are on youtube. They keep the speed to the nines the whole time so they never quite slowed down enough to write something that was really radio ready. They gave me their albums for making a donation to a charity of my choice, so I guess it figures they had to give it up and get real jobs, i suppose that wasn't the best business plan. That and there isn't a huge market for skate punk bands in Orangeville, ON.

Charliee Horse
All Hammed Up!

ha I know a coupla folks from Orangeville, I'll have to ask if they heard of em

I'm 40 Sund4r, so congrats, old guy award probably goes to me.

Gonna campaign for the One Last Wish album. Rites of Spring's post-Rites of Spring band, with the same raw-throat conviction, but an overall more hopeful, lighter, poppier spirit. One of the great dead ends in underground rock history, imo, since the LP wasn't released until well after the fact (too late to be influential), but it imagined a cross between emo and '80s guitar-pop that never existed elsewhere. Every song is great, song for song as solid at Rites of Spring, so it's not a stretch to think it could've become a touchstone if it had ever been pressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rjnH3jL7AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7slGajKCOI

the record not on spotify that i'm most aggressively going to campaign for is jejune's this afternoon's malady, which is simultaneously emo, indie pop, and shoegaze, and which is sometimes my favorite record in any of those subgenres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivkEDtbIFM0

iirc i think i learned about jejune on this ilx thread

the emo canon

I'm 40 Sund4r, so congrats, old guy award probably goes to me.

it could add an interesting stat dimension to the results if we all submitted our ages lol

^^^^^excellent thread xp

ugh that's making me realize i forgot to nominate phantoms by acceptance

simultaneously emo, indie pop, and shoegaze, and which is sometimes my favorite record in any of those subgenres

The hardest part of this poll is going to be deciding whether or not to vote for some of my favorite records ever that I never considered emo.

yeah I'm not gonna vote for Unwound, Converge, and some others. I may vote for the Wrens though because I get the same satisfaction of idenficiation/immersion from them as I do from emo bands, if that makes any sense

I'm listening to the straylight run for the first time (the second album) and uhhh I think this is what I wanted out of Pretty. Odd.

Yeah Unwound is probably my favorite LP on the whole list but I won't vote for it.

Deja Entendu suffers from having such a brilliant and novel opening track (after the intro). The rest of the album doesn't really stand out for me, especially after having heard almost nothing but emo for the past week. 'Jaws Theme Swimming' is great, though.
I'll definitely relisten before I vote, but for now I don't really get all the praise.

the opening track is great but imo actually seems a bit out of place w/ the rest of the album which is tremendous on its own virtues. boy who blocked his own shot, quiet things that no one ever knows, okay i believe you but my tommy gun don't, guernica -- i mean like every track at least to me is incredibly memorable w/ a v distinctive musical aesthetic and maybe more importantly just chockfull of really clever lyrics. idk if you were paying attention to the lyrics while you were listening but they're a big part of the appeal to me. it's also a fantastic album to sing along really loudly to while you're feeling sad and driving somewhere.

I like Deja Entendu a lot but I can't help feeling that The Devil and God makes it sound a bit quaint.

i like devil & god but somehow it's not as lyrically interesting to me. musically probably more impressive but i don't think deja entendu is a slouch in that department either, just a bit more conventional

i think deja entendu might be the greatest transitional album of all time; it's definitely suffering from an identity crisis but if anything that makes it better, both rejecting and embracing what made your favorite weapon work, trying to make something both ambitious and poppy, straightforward and oblique. i prefer devil and god but they're kinda equally special imo

idk if you were paying attention to the lyrics while you were listening but they're a big part of the appeal to me. it's also a fantastic album to sing along really loudly to while you're feeling sad and driving somewhere.

2) I'm one of the happiest guys on the planet

fp

dgi

flagging ur post bc u self-identified as happy in the emo thread

if ur happy get out

LOL

Agreed tbh

idk if i'm often sad tbph, more like perpetually angsty and anxious

i'll allow it

I didn't nominate anything cause I was never really into the late '90s early '00s pop-punk emo, but this is a damn fine list of albums. I'll try to get a ballot together.

xxp - That's why you're running the poll and not me. I'm going to put on an I Hate Myself album now and see if it helps...

OK gonna attempt to campaign for two of the bands on my nomination list: Hot Water Music and Small Brown Bike...

At their core these are very similar acts. Three word band names! Dense, detuned guitars! Scruffy dudes howling over each other in gruff voices! Both take cues from acts that came before: HWM, say, Leatherface; and SBB, say, HWM and Jawbreaker. Both at/were near the top of my late 90s-early 00s post-hardcore/emo-core/punk fandom.

Fuel for the Hate Game and Forever and Counting are the essential HWM albums for me because they manage to be both strong and sensitive, lyrical and gutteral, and complex yet simple in their execution in true punk style. The lyrics are damn near impossible to decipher (especially considering the singers are frequently singing different lines at the same time) but they still bring a sense of unity, purpose, and optimism. Musically, their rhythm section and syncopated play has always impressed me... dare I say they can even be "groovy"?

Key tracks for me: On Fuel, "Turnstile", "Blackjaw", "Drunken Third". On Forever, "Better Sense", "Just Don't Say You Lost It", "Minno".

Small Brown Bike, at first, sounds very similar to HWM. I know they played shows/toured together, and both were mainstays of No Idea Records during their careers. SBB is a bit more emo, I'd say -- more songs about relationships and less about scene unity. The fact that they're from my home state of Michigan definitely plays into their selection on my part, I've probably seen them live a dozen times. At times they feature three vocalists taking on different levels of screaming/shouting the words, often answering one another. Of these two albums, Our Own Wars is the earlier and probably the more complete work, but the production and live execution of Dead Reckoning was amazing in its time. Neither have held up as well as I feel the HWM albums have, but I still love them.

Key tracks: On Dead Reckoning, "Sleeping Weather", "This Ship Will Burn", "I Will Bury You In Me". On Our Own Wars, "The Cannons And Tanks", "Zerosum", "Make This A Holiday" -- the last being the best SBB song ever and one I'm not ashamed to admit I will scream along with at full volume if given the chance.

"listen to I Hate Myself and see if that helps" would be an excellent name for the poll imo

Turnstile is one of my fave songs ever.

All of the experts say you ought to start them young. / That way they'll naturally love the taste of corporate cum.

<gag>

lmao i love that line/song

Hah, I assumed that line was from one of Dan's screamo bands, but then I looked it up. Good song!

lol my shortlist turns out to be 107, and that's not including some of my absolute favorite records that I never considered emo before (Blood Brothers, Refused, Unwound). Time to do some trimming.

I wish refused had more songs about being sad

ugh i def should've made the ballot larger. i guess 30 is plenty but my personal list would love to be ~50

yeah, I'm about to cut serious classics of the genre and it hurts me inside, which is appropriate.

flagging ur post bc u self-identified as happy in the emo thread

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:19 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao great exchange

weird, i didn't even notice that only one piebald record was nominated and it's not my favorite piebald record

crybald

I want to put in a word for The Weakerthans' Left and Leaving for anyone who hasn't heard it. That was a HUGE record for me once upon a time and I relistened to it for this poll for...maybe the first time in a decade?...and it's still so fucking good. Definitely pioneering for how it finds a crossroads between (ugh) "literate" indie songwriting and emo+pop-punk flavor, with almost impossibly wistful and impactful lyrics. (Propagandhi is definitely the better band but there's no way in hell I'm voting for them in this poll.)

I got to 30 that I could rank without relistening to anything, so I just sent in my ballot. Now I'm going to go listen to some of this stuff.

I can't believe I forgot to nominate Drexel - The Inevitable Is Available

So, I was reminded of this by this poll, but in college I downloaded a song mislabeled as Karate that clearly wasn't; instead it was some spazzy British synth-pop thing. But it was really good. So I pulled it up, hoping maybe Shazam could identify it. But nothing.

Turns out there are at least a few dozen people in the same boat, nobody's ever been able to identify what it is

http://benicetobears.com/2016/09/14/nobody-has-been-able-to-identify-this-song-for-15-years-autobahnkarate/
http://www.backofthecerealbox.com/2010/01/rest-of-my-life-i-will-always-drive-and.html

Maddening.

I also love Unwound but couldn't vote for it. Same with 3 of the 4 Converge albums on here (and I nominated 2 of them). Had to vote for Jane Doe but it felt wrong having 4 on there out of 30.

I left off a couple Rainer Maria albums that were definitely worthy of top 50 status, but I couldn't put all of them on my ballot. I did manage to get the first two DC albums and the first FSF album on there, though, but a lot of that is due to nostalgia.

I woke up with 'Jaws Theme Swimming' in my head, so I think my subcounscious is telling me to go and listen to Deja again.

counscious

finally getting into hot water music bc of this poll

I tried to listen to them this week (for the second time - a friend in high school was a big fan) and they leave me cold (har har); something v generic about their sound at least to my ears and I find the production boring.

A Flight and a Crash was one of my first punk records - I still really like the opening flurry of tracks

a future lived in past tense is like... super out of print, right? or does anybody know where i can buy it so i can finally hear it lol

youtube (partial) or uhhh soul seekin' are yr only options I'm afraid

ooooh discogs actually has some reasonable CD prices (just not for the vinyl lol) I might have to bite the bullet on that even though I abhor shelling out for intl shipping

ysi? lol

hahaha I can hook you up later tonight if you want. it's sort of insane that it's not available anywhere, wasn't DeSoto a subsidiary of Dischord? why aren't they also on bandcamp then? and why are their labelmates (eg D-Plan) on Spotify? I'm so confused.

related, but afaik the only related thing to come out post-Juno was this pretty neat (if low-key) record from 2014 as Atoms and Void. Pretty sure the original version of this band (Ghost Wars) had one or two Blood Brothers in it but that never came together I guess. It was nice to hear Carstens' voice again.

https://atomsandvoid.bandcamp.com/releases

tags: ambient rock dark ambient instrumental male vocals sadness

hahaha I can hook you up later tonight if you want. it's sort of insane that it's not available anywhere, wasn't DeSoto a subsidiary of Dischord? why aren't they also on bandcamp then? and why are their labelmates (eg D-Plan) on Spotify? I'm so confused.

yeah please! i found a copy ~around~ but it's at a really low bitrate

i did manage to grab this is the way it goes and goes and goes and holy shit what a record

you found a physical copy? I don't think I've *ever* seen one in Canada

ooooh discogs actually has some reasonable CD prices (just not for the vinyl lol) I might have to bite the bullet on that even though I abhor shelling out for intl shipping

Heh I literally ordered a copy from there this morning - I haven't heard the album in full for like 15 years (a housemate had it on CD) but I remember liking it.

you found a physical copy? I don't think I've *ever* seen one in Canada

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:53 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol nah, on the ~internet~

anyway to get back to other bands (lol) I'm gonna finally listen to Braid today

oh, i should rep for my favorite kitchen sink emo/pop-punk-ish record, johnny foreigner vs. everything. johnny foreigner toured with los campesinos! early on and they have similar energies but anatomically their songs are accelerated emo (one of my friends thinks of them as an extremely poppy pretty girls make graves which isn't wrong either). vs. everything is their extremely ambitious double album featuring piano ballads and spoken word interludes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq81bwSAlak

Heartwarming to see the Juno love spread through ILM. How cool would it be if those albums ended up somewhere in the top 20 or so?

<pleasedontbanme>Brad, you're not on slsk? There are some fine v0 rips floating around.</pleasedontbanme>

the last time i used slsk i discovered that the mac clients were basically unusable. i'll figure something out

re: Johnny Foreigner, I haven't heard the music yet, but the opening track is a strong contender for my number 1 on the song titles side poll.

i don't think anyone is going to ban u for mentioning soulseek :p

btw: http://www.avclub.com/article/drive-announces-first-new-album-17-years-250800

we're right in the midst of the emo revival zeitgeist!

lol that only 'drive' is left of the bandname in the url

I've been using slsk since high school so its mentioning again here is deeply appropriate

finally getting into hot water music bc of this poll

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:54 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No matter what the final results are, I'll consider this a win :D

the benton falls record recommended upthread is also really good! feel like almost every current mathy emo band is or has been trying to remake it

there are still mathy bands?

*gestures vaguely* they're everywhere. most of them are real boring

I don't really have that much in the way of emo in my collection so I've been doing some homework, Jejune and The Appleseed Cast have stuck with me so far.

I think I need my emo cut with something else, even if it's just, like a hint of hardcore or post-rock or whatever

Which Appleseed Cast album?

Mare Vitalis and Low Level Owl

not sure which AC album im gonna vote for

I'll probably go for both if my ballot's looking a bit thin

me neither though i'm leaning toward mare vitalis xpost

the cello on this Benton Falls records reminds me that someone really should have nominated Faraquet's The View from This Tower.

oh man, the thirty ought six record

thrilled that ppl really repped for old evil-sounding post-hardcore that i've never heard before

there was a time in college where i would listen to anything that sounded like fugazi/hoover and i would've lost my mind over thirty ought six

the cello on this Benton Falls records reminds me that someone really should have nominated Faraquet's The View from This Tower.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:17 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh my god, i've definitely listened to this album before and then completely forgot about it

me neither though i'm leaning toward mare vitalis xpost

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:16 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah its a little more succinct.

xxp That reminds me, I love Fugazi but have never listened to Rites of Spring or Embrace, should probably get round to that... and a load of other stuff

Mare Vitalis and Low Level Owl

def. love 2 convos. i saw them when they were touring that release.

Will do!

I saw them when only the first volume of Low Level Owl had been released, but they already sold volume 2 after the show. Great band, and nice guys too.

oh man, the thirty ought six record

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:18 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes! So cool to see people digging that record.

I love Low Level Owl but if we're talking *emo* Appleseed Cast albums I have to go with Mare Vitalis. LLO is where they start veering into post-rock imo (not that that's a bad thing).

Also: a great Appleseed Cast track from an album not nominated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OasO1XgoBuc

Ha, I was going to post something about Peregrine earlier, but then I realised it wasn't nominated.
Other good songs from that album are Silas' Knife, Song 3 and the fantastic February.

After that, I lost sight of them. I think they got a new drummer around that time, which didn't help.

I could well end up voting for all three nominated Appleseed Cast records...

their most recent album was good but didn't stick with me

xp

same

Man, we should have nominated Peregrine. What a great album. I haven't heard it in years and forgot how good it is.

love that one too

maybe it's about time i bully everyone into voting for the anniversary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_SiZfAVJ4

xp I'm definitely going to check out their later albums after the poll is over.

it's gonna be like...top three on my list xp

welp that's a must-listen then

Ooh, nice surprise, those female vocals in the second track.

Yeah, this is great! I love the synth.

yeah digging how power-poppy this is

absolutely obsessed with the thirty ought six record, i am so happy, thank u cwkiii

gonna try to listen to Chief Assassin to the Sinister without just listening to "Shang vs. Hanger" over and over

y'know in retrospect it's kinda weird to me that Xiu Xiu never got the "emo" tab that I can recall

*tag

On the other hand, I never got the memo that Three Mile Pilot are considered emo. All that sci-fi artwork on the cover threw me off I guess.

a bit on the proggy/experimental side of emo but imo they count

'Inner Bishop' is my jam. So good.

why do i find dismemberment vox so unpleasant

even on the later albums?

hes so off key. drummer makes up for it tho

i just never thought of them as emo at all.

i made it about 40 seconds into The Dismemberment Plan is Terrified - is the total lack of carrying a tune one of the things fans like about the band?

he gets gradually more grounded / in tune with each album

plus his waAAckiness is pARt of the aPPEAL

that i could buy - i've enjoyed unconventional vocals before. maybe none quite as off key at these but... dylan y'know?

ayo brad you got mail

xp I recently dug out Is Terrified for the first time in forever and wasn't feeling it at all but Emergency & I is still one of my favorite records ever. Didn't like Change at the time either.

My first exposure to them was seeing them as the first band on a bill with Burning Airlines and The Promise Ring but I've never thought of them as emo either.

Is Terrified is still my fave, "Respect Is Due" makes 13 minutes melt away like nothing else I've heard

why do i find dismemberment vox so unpleasant

― Mordy, Wednesday, February 22, 2017 5:56 PM

my man

Musically d-plan is great, vocally/lyrically...enh.

Morrison was a fantastic lyricist at his best (esp on Emergency and I)

There need to be a song poll soon. I really want to vote for MCR - Helena and for In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 (the song). The albums aren't good enough but these two songs rule.

both of those albums are totally good enough. i was thinking for a song poll about really prominently voting for cartel's "honestly" and something corporate's "space" bc those parent albums def do not pull their weight

yeah 3CFSR is front to back killers, probably going in my top 5 tbh. I'm giving myself a strict one album per band limit which is going to be agonizing

both juno albums have totally shifted the order of my list. thanks simon. looking forward to them being no. 1 lol

YESSSS

for real though I am hoping this all somehow has the domino effect of getting their records back in print

oh i'm just noticing

Indian Summer - Discography
Indian Summer - Science 1994

these are probably the same record

xposts I've been thinking a lot about how a song poll would be crucial for this genre. So many great non-album tracks on 7"s.

my shortlist for this poll is like... 50 albums long

I haven't even started to shortlist yet lol, probably gonna get six beers deep the night of, scan the noms list, and go strictly by feels

meanwhile does everyone here love elliott's false cathedrals, prob the most traditionally beautiful emo album i've ever heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BmFt0VmUn0

yuuup, I scored that and Song in the Air on the cheap a few months ago and enjoy both v much

Of course Mordy's the boss, but there are no technical reasons why your ballots should only have 30 albums. 50 is fine by me.

I haven't even started to shortlist yet lol, probably gonna get six beers deep the night of, scan the noms list, and go strictly by feels

Then it's fine with me. If people who already submitted want to resubmit that's fine. Just make a note that it's a resubmission in your new ballot.

fittingly i just got a press release about the new maine album

If you have any spots left for some 21st-century emo, I like this very much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq8nraswFa4

On the other hand, I never got the memo that Three Mile Pilot are considered emo. All that sci-fi artwork on the cover threw me off I guess.

― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:33 PM (yesterday)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0hAnt8kmgY

Dual screaming vocalists, octave chords, polyrhythmic drums, spoken word breakdowns, loud/quiet/loud, dissonant guitar leads... not sure this could get anymore emo?

in terms of 21st century emo, I have a major soft spot for two "we've gone soft and it's a huge improvement" records, Turnover's Peripheral Vision and Pianos Become the Teeth's Keep You.

peripheral vision is v good but i still think it kinda falls apart halfway through bc the songs get less good and the tone doesn't vary at all

that first half though

oh and as long as I'm repping for stuff, another formative record for me was Chore's Take My Mask and Breathe, which surprised me by actually being on Spotify. they sounded quite a bit like early Deftones/Hum (if they recorded in a fancy garage) but they feel a bit more distinctly emo to me, especially the vocals - and I can't imagine either band writing something like "General Warning". Its third track is maybe the least punk song of all time and I have to brace myself for it every time (thankfully it's brief). the album is also ridiculously long like a lot of the other shit I nominate lol. The follow-up record The Coastaline Fire was much more professional and concise - it produced a minor Canadian hit in "The Hitchhiker" - but is less charming/distinctive to me.

yeah I agree that it's choppier after "Diazepam" but I love the closer xp

both of those albums are totally good enough. i was thinking for a song poll about really prominently voting for cartel's "honestly" and something corporate's "space" bc those parent albums def do not pull their weight

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Thursday, February 23, 2017 6:21 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I love most of that Something Corp album. I Wont Make You is the best.

the 21st century emo album that i will be the street team for forever is driver friendly's bury a dream, it is basically a perfect consolidation of jimmy eat world, brand new, and taking back sunday? (there's other stuff in there but i've never successfully identified it.) plus horns. they are v v special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppx0CghRedE

both of those albums are totally good enough. i was thinking for a song poll about really prominently voting for cartel's "honestly" and something corporate's "space" bc those parent albums def do not pull their weight

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Thursday, February 23, 2017 6:21 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I love most of that Something Corp album. I Wont Make You is the best.

― Spottie, Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:38 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's good! but it kinda peaks with "space"/"down" and "me and the moon"

also leaving through the window is ever so slightly better and is also uneven

true. Felt that way about the Jacks Mannequin stuff too.

everything in transit is all killer imo but i get that (and i'm voting for the glass passenger, which is VERY uneven but had a very specific emotional resonance with me in college)

i need to just make my own playlist of Andrew McMahon stuff

soco and jack's mannequin are also v tenuously emo imo but everyone considers them emo so

yeah i lumped them in at the time, still feels pretty emo to me

Dual screaming vocalists, octave chords, polyrhythmic drums, spoken word breakdowns, loud/quiet/loud, dissonant guitar leads... not sure this could get anymore emo?

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli),

OK, but with lyrics like this?

this new machine is beyond our sight it's lost in the headlines
it's buried beneath your skin lost in the system.
I can see the wires beneath his skin
shang wire like hanger got bent around went full on machinery
stunned crew with iron set chivalry
trampled coals in lessons
and I can still see the wires beneath his skin.

I mean I can just as easy add a few syllables to every other word and hear it as an ATDI lyric

All right, all right, I'll vote for the damn thing!

gonna check out Juno after lunch this better be good

Be sure to sit down, because it is good.

This is probably evidence that I was never really cut out to play this shit but ... when people talk about octave chords, do they just mean playing something in octaves? Or are they referring to a particular way of voicing chords, e.g. playing open fifths (i.e. power chords) but doubling the voices at the octave?

OK, if it just means this, then my first guess was right.

Yeah, the name is a misnomer (it's just an octave, rather than a chord) but here's perhaps a better example:
http://www.guitarhabits.com/wp-content/uploads/octaves.jpg

This is straight up indie (but arguably more emo than a chunk of this thread's ballot) that has three guitarists all playing octaves (except for the first solo I think): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMcTt1KEw0U

(playing exclusively octaves)*

Cool, thanks. So "Cherub Rock" uses 'octave chords'? My friends totally thought I was crazy when I said that a lot of emo bands reminded me of Smashing Pumpkins.

Yeah, haha, you should have been more specific.

Well shit now I just remembered this Canadian obscurity (with an army of 6 guitarists*), I saw them live and they were incredible.

This was released in 1993, emo or nah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvTltNhTy-E

*including Carl/AC Newman on guitar and vox who'd later form the New Pornographers

Oh, nice track.

I've honestly never listened to much Superconductor beyond "There Goes Helen" but it's SO GREAT

(I also love Zumpano's version of "Reosecrans Boulevard".)

http://i.imgur.com/HumLy1a.jpg

wow

holy shit!

god the everglow is such a great record. i haven't listened to it in years

like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDMcotLp2yY

i love Mae so much. I'm def voting for Destination: Beautiful up high

Any love for Copeland? Beneath Medicine Tree and In Motion are both gonna get high slots in my ballot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G24Vk0ihqUI

California builds and builds and explodes one of my fams fav road trip (to californis) songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obJNiSbj3m0
Now I wont mind... if you monopolize all of my time... i wont say a word at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZe3aaEr6UM

Spottie, how was Juno?

yeah loved it for sure, got about 2/3 through This Is the Way It Goes and Goes and Goes. gonna finish that and the other over the next day or so.

http://www.emogame.com/

xxp - Ooh, 'California' is gorgeous, but I can't figure out where I heard that riff before...

Good to see the love for Thirty Ought Six. Hag Seed is a great record. My band shared a practice space (i.e., Sean's garage) with theirs and I was friends with Sean and Dave. They were also one of the best live bands I've ever seen. Thanks for nomming them!

never spent a lot of time with copeland spottie, i understand they are like... a great and beloved band in the jimmy eat world sense, if more low key

I know you would love them tbf

"the french letter" feels like juno achieving what hoover had always been trying to do. stunning song

in that it's this moody, jazzy, kinda ever-circling endlessly building post-hardcore thing

No other band (with one possible exception) ever used three guitarists with greater ingenuity and grace

i'll 100 percent agree with this. tbh most of the bands that try to marry post-rock and emo are sooooo dull that i have no idea how juno got the combination so right

i'm also with you, simon. a future lived in past tense is the one for me. i even love the total abyss in the middle

"we slept in rented rooms" is definitely the best song i've ever heard

sheesh this is a real "i am listening to one of my new favorite albums of all time" experience

listened to and enjoyed fireside and knapsack during the drive home today. i think fireside esp but it's hard to really focus when you're driving but i think that was the album that had the most moments that really wowed me. am i totally misremembering or is there a long instrumental interlude during/as one of the tracks?

Yes, that's Fireside! That "total abyss" is one of the reasons why I described them as the Swedish Juno earlier. And now all new Juno fans go and start listening to Elite :)

i'm also with you, simon. a future lived in past tense is the one for me.

Oh, and to answer my own question about the 'California' riff: I woke up with 'Boy by the Roadside' by the God Machine playing in my head (I love my mind so much). Not quite the same but close:

https://youtu.be/E7WD23lhd1s?t=167
(and if you don't the song you should hear the whole thing.)

Most of the God Machine is more emo than most emo bands anyway.

@brad:
http://stylusmagazine.com/articles/seconds/juno-the-french-letter.htm

I think that was me. Simon is the Goes and Goes fan.

I def love both records to death, my preference for one over the other is by inches and shifts constantly (usually depending on whichever one I just listened to lol)

also for anyone who's not heard it their cover of DJ Shadow's "High Noon" is beautiful

There need to be a song poll soon. I really want to vote for MCR - Helena and for In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 (the song). The albums aren't good enough but these two songs rule.

― satans favourite son, Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

both of those albums are totally good enough. i was thinking for a song poll about really prominently voting for cartel's "honestly" and something corporate's "space" bc those parent albums def do not pull their weight

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's more that for me those two songs are head and shoulders better then the rest. And not good enough as in they won't be on my ballot.

also for anyone who's not heard it their cover of DJ Shadow's "High Noon" is beautiful

Agreed - I also really really love 'Non-Equivalents', their other track from that split EP. Last time I checked those were the only two Juno tracks on Spotify (on the B-Core Sevens compilation).

Also wanted to say that Crash of Rhinos album ArchCarrier recommended is really good.

so uuhhhh I never actually listened to Rites of Spring or One Last Wish before this poll and I am here to controversially state that they are...very good

I am very much enjoying going through this list. Also: I'm currently in BREAK-UP HELL so this stuff is just the ticket. np: Elliott - False Cathedrals.

Definitely voting for False Cathedrals, one of the first emo albums I got really into.

Elliott really feel like they should have had a much longer career than they did.

i'm listening to fireside and i don't understand this band at all. still really enjoying it

like this record (elite) feels like the weird completely untethered follow-up to fugazi's the argument even though it came out a year before the argument

really enjoying the motorik detour in the middle of this album, yeah, this is a normal thing that albums do

listening to this now too, weird record. i like it!

OK I have to hear this

yeah it didn't leave a huge impression on me beyond "hey this is cool!" but that's a good first impression

I'll get to it after Emergency & I which I'm rather enjoying, including the vocals!

I'm listening to U.S. Songs for the first time - it's really good! I would have thrown Song in the Air in the mix as well if I'd thought of it.

can hardly believe the fireside record ends with spaghetti western music

Haha yes another insane but awesome moment on that album- making a strong case for ballot inclusion

Oh, and to answer my own question about the 'California' riff: I woke up with 'Boy by the Roadside' by the God Machine playing in my head (I love my mind so much). Not quite the same but close:

https://youtu.be/E7WD23lhd1s?t=167
(and if you don't the song you should hear the whole thing.)

― ArchCarrier, Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:59 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hear it. this song is good. another band to check out

Listening to the other Fireside album on the list (and regretting I didn't nominate some of their other records) I was struck by a song that totally reminded me of an Alkaline Trio song off of Maybe I'll Catch Fire...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUAenwr8lwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCTUdgqewqc

So I'm going to resubmit my ballot, since we can vote for 50 records instead of just 30, and since I voted for the wrong two Rainer Maria albums (Look Now Look Again is my perennial favorite but I messed up and only voted for Long Knives Drawn and Past Worn Searching).

so uuhhhh I never actually listened to Rites of Spring or One Last Wish before this poll and I am here to controversially state that they are...very good

This makes me so happy! One Last Wish never made the history books like Rites of Spring, but to me they seem like an essential part of the story. Along with the All Through a Life EP it provides kind of a belated happy ending for the project

Ballot #2 submitted. Allowing for 50 albums gave Saves the Day a place on my ballot, making it the only pop-punk album on mine. I remember really liking "If You C Jordan" but that album didn't really hold up for me, so I cut it.

punk rock princess still holds up iirc

copeland are a ridiculously good band. "when paula sparks"!

everything i like about a specific kind of emo that came out pretty regularly between say 1999 and 2005, this sort of emotionally and melodically generous yet also properly spacious and atmospheric rock music, is in here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeHpTRmc5lI

top 5 Copeland song yeah. the intro alwyas reminded me of the Cure.

BMT is a loosely baked concept album btw. about the death of his grandma at the same time his girlfriend was hospitalized with lupus. lots of hospital themes

Feel like this Owls record is super underrated. As much as I love Cap'n Jazz I think this is their masterpiece.

we slept in rented rooms" is definitely the best song i've ever heard

hey so as long as there are some captive listeers itt can someone break down for me what's going on rhythmically in the verses of this song?

It's the Purdie Shuffle, best explained by the man himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1j1_aeK6WA

you done hired the hitmaker

yeah, that's what the drumbeat sounds like, but I meant more in terms of how it interacts with the guitar and vocal lines

anyway you were right brad that Jejune album slaps

omfg that purdie video is the best

Just dropping in on this thread to say that I love this poll, and I'm having a really hard time making up my list. Kill your darlings and stuff.

Oh, and don't sleep on the Last Days Of April album. It's fantastic.

^^^ holy shit, the second track on this thing

why am i constantly discovering amazing albums bc of this poll

I was visiting friends for the last couple of days and I forgot to save my ILM password. Some quick reactions:

Big lolz at Brad's comments on hearing Fireside for the first time, especially the motorik and spaghetti western bits.

Thanks for posting the Mae video. The first time I listened to their album it didn't really make an impression (possibly because I was doing other things), but the video made me re-listen, and 'Suspension' is already in my top 20 of favorite emo singles.

Copeland and Last Days of April are great! This genre just keep on giving, it's insane.

And @cajunsunday: take care, man. I hope the music can make your situation a little lighter.

Best discovery of the last days is The Milton Abandonment by Ethel Meserve. The singer doesn't have the most distinctive voice, but the songs (pretty much all in the 5-minute range) have long instrumental breakdowns with multiple parts and nice interlocking guitars. Double bonus points for 1) cellos! and 2) naming a track after a Twin Peaks character.

Here's the opening track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQvOWEabDPY

god ranking a ballot is gonna be basically impossible for me, as my two major record demographics are gonna be "immensely important records for my development that have been since loosely classified or reclassified as emo" and "emo albums of the last few years I have loved"

Yeah, it's a question of "Where am I going to fit records I've discovered two weeks ago within a list of albums I've loved for 20 years?"

Good song for a Sunday morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3A_nHre4w

I could hear the church bells ringing
They pealed aloud your praise
The members' faces were smiling
With their hands out stretched to shake

It's true they did not move me
My heart was hard and tired
Their perfect fire annoyed me
I could not find you anywhere

Could someone please tell me the story
Of sinners ransomed from the fall
I still have never seen you
And some days I don't love you at all

The devoted were wearing bracelets
To remind them why they came
Some concrete motivation
When the abstract could not do the same

But if all that's left is duty
I'm falling on my sword
At least then I would not serve
An unseen distant lord

Could someone please tell me the story
Of sinners ransomed from the fall
I still have never seen you
And some days I don't love you at all

If this is only a test
I hope that I'm passing
Cause I'm losing steam
And I still want to trust you

Peace, be still
Peace, be still
Peace, be still
Peace, be still

so i'm about 60% through the spotify playlist. listened to all the further seems forever albums and here's my predictable vocalists ratings:

chris carrabba > jon bunch > jason gleasan

i've got juno and the brave little abacus albums on tap (neither on spotify). any other non-spotify available albums i should definitely make sure to listen to before voting?

The '89 Cubs album is not on spotify and is really great.

Going to be the 50th person to say that those Juno albums are fucking amazing, god bless this poll.

mordy: jejune!!!!

listening to that again, "fixed on the one" is unreal!

Whoever mentioned (the other) Camera Obscura upthread was totally otm: it's a great, expansive album, with some post-rock elements and distorted vocals. Will definitely vote for this.

Full album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyiW1-VXnc

Yeah, they were even better live that year.

I'll try to send a ballot this week. Juno was probably the most pleasant discovery. In the end, I mostly recalled my ambivalence towards the genre.

which circa survive album are my circa survive ppl voting for

bc it's hard to decide between blue sky noise and on letting go imo

or fuck, maybe i like juturna the most

Checking 'em out now. They're one of the 200 bands I still haven't listened to...

Don't buy the Ion Tape Express btw. It's garbage.

xp oh i hope you like them! they're basically on the proggiest end of strict emo, never quite edging into like coheed territory but always very texturally interesting and catchy

their first two albums kinda generate out of nowhere this space rock idea of emo and i've never heard anyone attempt it before or since

like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZUWls70L-U

i finally got to the anniversary, brad!!!! the exclamation marks are bc it's awesome!!!!

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this sounds like music i would greatly enjoy singing along to at a concert which imo constitutes the best kind of emo music

i saw them live last year and that description holds up

imo we should push the ballot submission date to 2018 so i can sufficiently check everything out itt

yo brad I posted something in the metal thread I'm weirdly anxious for you to hear

oh and also re: circa survive, i love the kate bush-y backing vocals in this song. blue sky noise is way more grounded than the other two records i nominated but maybe that's why i like it the best; the hooks are better than ever and instead of the guitars just circling each other forever there's suddenly a lot of force and dynamic variation to them

"this song" meaning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIYd7MRRfnQ

yo brad I posted something in the metal thread I'm weirdly anxious for you to hear

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, February 27, 2017 1:55 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on my way

I'm sad to say Circa Survive isn't really clicking here. Of the three nominated albums I like Blue Sky Noise the best, but I have to do my best to feel anything.
I like the instrumental backing, but it's almost like the vocals move in a different way than I'd expect, or something.

I love The Anniversary, though :)

I second extending the poll a bit for more listening, tho not necessarily til next year :)

but if there's no agony is it really an emo poll

true
http://s8.favim.com/orig/150315/black-and-white-children-depressed-emo-Favim.com-2564229.gif

this camera obscura record cooks

:)

imo we should push the ballot submission date to 2018 so i can sufficiently check everything out itt

idk about 2018 but i have been considering pushing back the submission date. as it stands i wanted ballots by March 5th but i'd be okay extending it to... idk what do people think? i don't mind giving until the end of March if that's what u all want and we could begin the rollout on Mon, April 3rd? or we could do it sooner. i could definitely use the extra time.

I'd say 2 extra weeks, not 4. There will never be enough time to listen to everything anyway.

two seems fine to me

yeah 2 is good. i was mostly kidding but extra time is good.

2 extra weeks is fine, everyone lmk if anyone else needs juno records lol

oh def i do! i was just listening on the youtubes but would much rather have a rip.

btw copeland is now my favorite band. i have more of an emotional connection to under medicine tree but the songs on in motion are INCREDIBLE. especially

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14JOjKtlVMo

er, beneath medicine tree*

nice. yeah dont slow down is def one of their best. that hook is in my head all day every day.

the next album is so good as well. In Motion is my favorite tho i think.

extending this will not work for me, plus no poll has not been open for a month. i already put in my PTO request and because of possible promotion i really can't modify it again, already have once. so i planned on opening the next poll right when this one was over or about March 13th or so. was going to do that roll-out the week of March 27th.

i guess you could suspend this poll until after that but i really need to stick with that schedule for the next poll. if you kept it as is, it would work out perfectly.

a few xpost back

Can't both polls run at the same time? It would be nice if the rollouts are spaced so they don't overlap, but the voting periods can happily coexist.

Plus, the total recorded output of the Talking Heads is about 1/40th of the nominated emo albums, so it's not unreasonable to have some more listening time.

personally i'd like to walk back the "two weeks" suggestion bc i'd rather not disrupt bee ok's life. also feel like there's probably a good reason why polls don't run simultaneously

anyway have y'all listened to the jazz june? they're amazingly good imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhZETtLpGYM

That record got at ton of play on the various indie/emo shows at my college station.

voted.

ok so out of deference to bee ok all ballots will be due by Saturday night - Sunday we'll collate them and Monday I'll start to roll out the results.

All right, let's busy then!

Here's one that doesn't get enough love I think, one of the early Deep Elm bands:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTGSedQDXbQ

Full album on Bandcamp

as i advance through these copeland records they're starting to get more and more subtle. which is fine, they're still very good, but i'm not here for subtlety

yeah im only voting for the first 2. love the others tho.

i'm not here for subtlety

Beneath Medicine Tree is a lovely album. Definitely voting for it. I think I've heard about 40 or so new albums since this poll started! Fun times!

controversial further seems forever albums ranking:

hide nothing
the moon is down
penny black
how to start a fire

if i were making a list of five essential emo songs though "new year's project" would be in it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAjYXJamww4

"Outside Looking In" is sort of a definitive anthem for me, cheesy lyrics and all, but I never listened to an entire album by Still Life. From Angry Heads is def solid, just what I look for with this stuff.

One of the things I look for anyway

Policy of 3! I listened to "1%" a lot.

ATDI's "198d" is maybe the song I've listened to most often in my life lol

Beneath Medicine Tree is a lovely album. Definitely voting for it. I think I've heard about 40 or so new albums since this poll started! Fun times!

― cajunsunday

'This!' to all four of those sentences.

My controversial Sunny Day Real Estate albums ranking:

top 3:
The Rising Tide

top 20:
How It Feels...

not voting for:
Diary
LP2

same tbh!!!

all right i think this is prob my last campaigning post, but i relistened to matchbook romance's voices yesterday and it's still one of my favorite "we were really embarrassed by our first extremely emo record so now we're gonna sounds like...idk, muse and ours, or something" follow-ups ever. i think i'm the only person who likes it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WF8FA5iRwE

yeah I've never been that into the early SDRE records tbh xp

in other news I uhh am finally on the JEW bandwagon

once again I blame my delayed appreciation on my too-suggestible teenage brain and pfork's emo hate speech

i flow back and forth on sdre. the initial lineup was obv a very special band, and the reunion records were way more focused on enigk & co.'s advancing songwriting than band interplay. depends on what i'm in the mood for; lately it's been the latter

XXpost "New Year's Project" was the first song I ever heard that could be identified as emo, it was playing as background music while I had a conversation with my brother and I stopped talking when the first chorus kicked in and started crying. Emo.

Xpost I ranked How It Feels to Be Something On above Diary and didn't rate the rest. I also put that Mineral record below all the SDRE albums but in the same general sonic space as them, just blander than LP2.

XXpost "New Year's Project" was the first song I ever heard that could be identified as emo, it was playing as background music while I had a conversation with my brother and I stopped talking when the first chorus kicked in and started crying. Emo.

hell yeah!!!!

Oops, wrong moment to post Pop Unknown then. I was just thinking how gentle that album sounds.

excuse me, this album isn't subtle at all. also it's great

Not voting for Diary seems like craziness to me. I honestly can't listen to much of their other stuff without going "I should just listen to Diary" Maybe it's time for me to go back and re-listen to the other stuff given you alls love for it.

Diary is the only one I've ever owned, mostly because of my love for "Seven".

Thanks for all the Anniversary chat upthread – deffo buying and voting for Designing a Nervous Breakdown

Diary was my introduction to emo (specifically, seeing the video for "Seven" on 120 Minutes), so obviously it holds a special place for me, but if I had to rank them it'd be LP2 > How It Feels > Diary > The Rising Tide. Good chance that the first three all make my ballot.

I mentioned The Jealous Sound somewhere at the bottom of the nominations thread, but this post-Knapsack band deserves another shout out. The first track alone has a great melody, an Anniversary-like synthy thing (or something) and a singalong chorus that's designed for the biggest stadiums of the world, all tied together by the voice of Blair Shehan. The rest of this album is just as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-FPdYxUDJI&list=PLtHW3XD0_AzVlTwp8LMqX14qxNuv6Cuug

Again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-FPdYxUDJI

And if you haven't heard Knapsack yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJyCoNF9cDE

haven't figured out which knapsack record i'm voting for

I love his voice so much.

Here to campaign for Algernon Cadwallader. Cap'n jazz worship from the late 2000's. Saw them play a friend's living room a few years back and they completely floored me. Got me back into the genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4MPygTPM8Q

I saw them open for Joyce Manor a couple of years ago, always been meaning to check em out of record

whyyy despite knowing that they were a post-knapsack band did it take me so long to finally listen to the jealous sound

"anxious arms" is gonna be in my head for the rest of the day

^ yes! I love that song!

The first couple of times I misheard the last lines of the chorus as "Would you be my Amsterdam?", which is actually kind of cool.

I have learned from this poll that I don't like a lot of emo that has come out after I stopped listening to a lot of emo

this, on the other hand... I forgot how great this is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXHMnXQdHxs

hey coffee eyes

I don't like their name, I don't like their album titles, I hate that ugly cover and I still haven't listened to them.

One of these days...

pls treat yourself to "little league" one of the best opening tracks ever

i felt guilty about liking further seems forever's how to start a fire the least in their discography so i spent a lot of time with it today and i don't think i've ever really loved this record but wow now I LOVE IT

thank u for taking this journey with me

I look forward to more Teen Angst Chronicles and subsequent reverberations in the rollout thread

I really should have been listening to way more emo and way less mediocre canadian alt-rock as a Sad Teen

You don't mean Eric's Trip, I hope? They and Lou Barlow helped me through my Sad Teen years.

just wanted to drop in and mention that the first song i heard out of any of these was "8" by sunny day real estate which was on the BATMAN FOREVER soundtrack which i won in a school raffle when i was 10

lol no AC I mean like Matthew Good and shit

i love matthew good

mediocre canadian alt-rock 4ever

I actually picked up a really cheap copy of the best-of to see how his stuff had aged and uhhh (I'll admit he had a couple enduring jams though)

underdogs/beautiful midnight are still great records. i admit they didn't "age well" but it's like late-'90s alt rock, it is forever trapped in time by design

Letting everyone know that a) we have 9 ballots so far and b) deadline for voting is this weekend. Get your ballots in!

oh shit

i mentioned armor for sleep way upthread but after revisiting it i think trainwreck by boys night out is an even stronger version of that style. it's a concept album about a dude who kills his wife in his sleep and then cuts off his arms and legs iirc?????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYrGuSNfZeo

lol i had no idea they made a video for "medicating," it's... certainly a video

what a good song tho

how many legit emo concept records are there? I feel like there must be a lot.

coheed have made seven. beyond that, from briefly scanning this list, i see ten others (four of the time kasher records, black parade, vheissu (loosely), the mother, the mechanic and the path, what to do when you are dead, the everglow, and trainwreck)

er tim kasher*

I guess Is a Real Boy is supposed to be but it's a bit err tough to trace

those would make for a fun separate poll

I guess Is a Real Boy is supposed to be but it's a bit err tough to trace

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:17 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if it's just about your neuroses then it's not a concept album imo!!!!

my criteria was "tells a story"

I don't feel qualified to vote in this but I will never be mad at the cheesiness and angst of "Sea Anemone" and "Seafoam Green"

pretty sure this was the first music video I ever watched online:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgqxFcVD89M

there's kind of an adolescent urge to think all yr fave albums tell a story, like I was convinced for a while that Downward is Heavenward had a "plot" lol

Beneath Medicine Tree counts, doesn't it?

And Mare Vitalis doesn't really tell a story but the whole thing is about the sea.

Domestica for sure

Voted! Finally.

gonna listen to beloved glassjaw album worship & tribute for the first time today

tbh I've always loved the sound of that album but not the songs

whelp it turns out everyone was correct and juno is excellent

13 ilxors can't be wrong

Slightly OT but new I Hate Sex song: https://ihatesex.bandcamp.com/album/five-band-split

last things i'll rep for i think before i finally turn in my ballot today, both mid-'90s emo classics imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwltToFv2KA

boys life: departures and landfalls (the other post-rock emo band, i guess, but they don't sound anything like juno or post-rock, they just sound like they want to write emo songs with 10000 times more space. i used to think this band really inspired tbs bc two of their vocal melodies are identical)

ENDRPHN4 months ago
american football is shit art. boys life is real art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7KMG9kKgvY

chamberlain: fate's got a driver (hard to explain why this record feels special. feels v related to the texas is the reason record, and both kind of feel like the closest mid-'90s emo got to mid-'90s alt rock)

i thought i responded to brad re Circa Survive but it was just sitting on my phone typed out without submitting. Anyway, I'm def voting for their second album 'on letting go' which is much stronger than their debut imo. more hooks, more dynamic. Kicking Your Crosses Down is my jam on there, beautiful song.

havent even started my ballot yet f this

just wanted to drop in and mention that the first song i heard out of any of these was "8" by sunny day real estate which was on the BATMAN FOREVER soundtrack which i won in a school raffle when i was 10

I remember being *so pumped* that there was a Sunny Day Real Estate song on the Batman Forever soundtrack. I went to the mall with this kid who lived down the street from me who was really into motorcycle magazines and listened to it with him at a listening station at The Wall.

Which Pedro the Lion alb are people voting for? I love them all just about equally so im down just tell me so i dont vote split :)

The Whole EP was a lolconcept ep about addiction, it's great. Almost There is a top twenty emo song for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Yw8jEzt7E

Haha I read the beginning of your post and thought to myself "whichever one had 'Almost There' on it."

yesss

Popping in to do a quick plug for Johnny Foreigner, a noisy punk pop band from Birmingham who are the best band in Britain imo and certainly have a higher hit rate than erstwhile tourmates Los Campesinos! (thanks Brad for nominating them)

This, from their third album 'vs Everything' is possibly their finest achievement, basically a Wong Kar-Wai film set in Germany over a heap of looped acoustic guitars (and c'mon a free bandcamp download):

https://johnnyforeigner.bandcamp.com/track/dont-show-us-your-fangs

Their debut is a lock for my no. 1 vote, it's front to back perfect. People may already be familiar with 'Salt, Peppa and Spinderella', so here are some others to check out. This one's has the most awe-inspiring intro and is about lust in grammar schools:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzRJwQl21vQ

And this is their epic disillusionment-with-the-scene anthem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQN_Zmu0gPs

Also, thanks to all for the Appleseed Cast conversation upthread.

basically a Wong Kar-Wai film set in Germany over a heap of looped acoustic guitars

re: pedro the lion, i'm voting for control, it's the one i've spent the most time with

"a wong kar-wai film" is a v evocative description of that song!

The one after Control was good, too, but Control is the only Pedro The Lion album that matters

xxp - I can't bring myself to vote for any of the early Pedro the Lion records. I wouldn't vote for Low or Codeine either in this poll and that's where I group those albums. Winners Never Quit will be my pick.

I'm starting to wonder now if I've ever heard Control...

oh man you're in for such a treat

Control prob the one for me yea

(def)

Indian Summer <3 and Rejoice is one of the best slo-core-emo songs ever

Mission: Control! has to have the best opening riff of the 00s. Also I listen to it way more than any Jawbox record tbh (and I love me some Jawbox)

submitted my ballot

me2. everyone please get your ballots in. we have 12 right now. i'd love to get to 20 - at least - if possible.

also mare vitalis is so fucking good you guys

Most people wait until the last day to send in their ballots, so I'm sure you'll get 20.

in the end i chose the first knapsack record i ever heard, day three of my new life, but this conversation is ending starting right now is equally great

xxp I feel like, opening piece aside, (it's not really a complete song IMO) it has the best two opening tracks of any emo album I've ever heard

voting tonight or tomorrow!!

ill be getting mine in at the last minute per usual

^ this

Dont know anything about Rival Schhols but 'Undercovers On' just came on shuffle and it's great. Not sure theyre emo but w/e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIRdVuMNnFc

I'm planning to do this Saturday.

didn't spend enough time with kill them with kindness to vote for it but "for once in your life" is prob the best song on any knapsack or jealous sound record

didn't spend enough time with kill them with kindness to vote for it

i just had to be done with it, i've got a deadline this weekend on a non-emo record

Fair enough. Tbh I'm kinda glad the deadline didn't get extended because I'm developing symptoms of emo addiction :)

xxps the Rival Schools record is fantastic and "Undercovers On" is a highlight, album coulda used one or two more moody mid-tempo numbers like that if anything

yeah i went through the whole thing and picked a handful of keepers from it, really liked it

actually that reminds me I've still never heard Quicksand, time to remedy that

I voted! Feeling very emotional now.

It's only right

Voted!

61 albums on my first-draft ballot...not too bad

aaaaand voted! that was some seriously agonizing ordering.

i ordered mine based on the emo game.

voted, way too much Pedro the Lion.

oh good you probably made up for how i, to my considerable surprise, included zero pedro the lion

Voted! The chance of hearing a life-changing album before the deadline is getting smaller and smaller and besides, I have to get some work done. Very excited for the rollout!

hi I don't think I will have time to vote in this poll but I just wanted to voice my approval of matthew good; avalanche & last of the ghetto astronauts are great as well as the records brad mentioned

I'm going to vote in a bit, hungover and emotional as appropriate. I haven't heard as much stuff that's new to me as I would've liked and I think my ballot's going to be a bit weird but there we are.

Still don't know if I'm going to include things like Thursday and C&C that used to mean a lot to me but haven't listened to in many years...

Rival Schools was the last album I added to my ballot, so thanks Spottie! Campaigning does help.

Sadly I've been wildly busy recently with trying to not be unemployed (which by all rights this should have been the perfect playlist for) and I haven't had time to listen to much. Still, I'll submit a quick ballot tomorrow and I'm very excited for rollout discoveries. Thanks so much for doing this, Mordy!

60 on my shortlist. time to whittle down

oh bollocks City of Caterpillar wasn't nominated :(

Mordy says I can do a write-in so everyone who hasn't voted yet (TT,LJ, sund4r etc please give a listen and a top 5 vote to City Of Caterpillar - City Of Caterpillar.
It's a brilliant record.

http://i.imgur.com/jGwvKeq.jpg

https://open.spotify.com/album/0uXUaF5IG6V1jmPZgD7XZG

Hi5 AC

I've left this too late but Shiner were a great band, one of my nominations. Really strong post-hardcore with a solid rhythm section and some slightly experimental/math-rock leanings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWkVyipF-s4&ab_channel=suddenlyxsuicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiaIGrSAKx8&ab_channel=hedfonezz

Ugh, I don't know what I'm doing wrong but yt won't embed for me any more, sorry.

The songs were 'This Situationist' from 'Lula Divinia', And the title track from 'The Egg.' They're awesome, honest.

Oh yeah, City of Caterpillar's pretty good too.

Shiner were great and not forgotten by me

Do you like Gospel?
This album is easily one of the best albums of the 00s.
http://i.imgur.com/TMI55Ng.jpg
https://open.spotify.com/album/0w4VXJ2DBfUmX5StTj69q6

hehehe check the price

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/425688631

Sorry I literally just sent my ballot man... City of Caterpillar made it though. Glad someone else likes Shiner too!

There was quite a few shiner fans on here back in the day. Its probably how I heard of them.

ftr that Gospel album is loved by scott seward too. Whether youve voted or not you should play it. (as should anyone reading)

Screamo-prog! Fuck, this is great.

Told you!

oh no, i think i lost my shortlist :(

Did you look under the couch?

Yeah, Gospel sound v good a few tracks in, sort of like what I hoped Mars Volta would sound like.

I wish Mars Volta had sounded like Crime In Choir. (ex atd-i dudes who quit early and not the guys who were in the shitty band Sparta who i saw twice supporting Qotsa)

Wouldve voted Crime in Choir if they had been nommed

I voted btw Mordy, did you get it?

god damn i forgot how much i like this saetia record

i got it xp

fyi everyone we currently have 22 ballots!

just eyeballing it the results look like they'll be very interesting

lol ugh i nominated sunday's best and totally forgot to vote for them

shite, i forgot to vote fir Saetia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq7pOBE5LM4

incredible song

Mordy, the op says Sunday but saw you say in the other thread you need it by end of day today?

Apparently Sunday evening is enough time so that's when it'll close. Rollout on Monday. I'm thinking... 15 albums a day w/ 17 on the first day. wrap up on friday.

Not a top 300 then?

I voted. My ballot was ridiculous.

non ridiculous ballots should be thrown out imo

who else submitted a full 50

50? I thought it was 30

Of course Mordy's the boss, but there are no technical reasons why your ballots should only have 30 albums. 50 is fine by me.

― ArchCarrier, Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:26 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I haven't even started to shortlist yet lol, probably gonna get six beers deep the night of, scan the noms list, and go strictly by feels

Then it's fine with me. If people who already submitted want to resubmit that's fine. Just make a note that it's a resubmission in your new ballot.

― Mordy, Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:28 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

err that middle bit was not supposed to be there but you get the point

damn

you've got a day to resubmit!

I voted for 50 albums

my ballot is in.

really weird (but awesome) group of albums in the end, had a lot of trouble ranking them in comparison to each other. really interested to see the results!

This City of Caterpillar stuff is absolutely amazing!

Told you so. Did you like Gospel?

Haven't listened yet. Compiling film ballot and sourcing outliers for my emo 50.

The Gospel album is better than City of Caterpillar (its screamo-prog)

i resubmitted my ballot btw

I wasn't going to vote in this but we're listening to Braid and...I might, you know

give a listen to Gospel.

Screamo-prog! Fuck, this is great.

― ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 4 March 2017 18:04 (yesterday

We have been listening for a while now! It is some pretty incredible doom...

Voted 50, ridiculous

Sent a ballot, then sent a revised ballot, then gmail decided to screw with it. Please accept only the final email!

man are we gonna crack 30 ballots? that would be rad

we are at 30 right now - i'll accept ballots for about another hour and a half and then i'm sending them to archcarrier for processing.

oh snap. I better hurry

go spottie go!!!

Boom, done! so ready for this rollout.

30 ballots? That's great!

Mordy, you can close voting now. I'll get the results back to you before you get out of bed.

It's time!

Run Quick EMO ALBUMS; Here I’ll POLL, You VOTED

Woohoo!!

Sad I had crazy family things come up and didn't vote. Will follow the results happily.

Yeah, I had a trip come up out of the blue and didn't get a chance to compile even a shortlist, so I feel that the poll may be lacking another elderly emo voter, but such is that fate.