LCD Soundsystem - American Dream - 9/1/17

Cuz you know it's gonna be decent. Maybe even...more than decent???

1 Oh Baby
2 Other Voices
3 I Used to
4 Change Yr Mind
5 How Do You Sleep?
6 Tonite
7 Call the Police
8 American Dream
9 Emotional Haircut
10 Black Screen

9/1/17

;_;

ok I got it fixed

outlets are reporting that this is the cover art, but i hope that it's a prank

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/LCD_Soundsystem_-_American_Dream_cover_art.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/893261847566012416/GA9ImwxJ_400x400.jpg

Album art clearly designed for digital player screens.

Ugh I hate ironic album covers, keep that shit in your lyrics.

I suppose it's an Infinite Jest copy/parody?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Jest

Either way terrible album cover, which is a shame because if the album is good it'll suck for me because I'm so superficial that I can't justify buying a vinyl with bad artwork.

Seriously, I know it's ridiculous but this infuriates me. Their past albums all have good artwork and they were consistent in the use of black and white. Even the letters on a white background would've been boring but at least it wouldn't be so offensive.

I realized about six months ago that I've enjoyed every LCD Soundsystem release less than the previous, if you go by "album" releases. All the way from the early singles disc packaged with the first album being more enjoyable than the first album, all the way to now :/

if it's the actual album art, then it's the worst album art i've ever seen

i suspect this is going to be v embarassing

I'm sure Murphy feels there's a lot riding on this record, given how it's basically his excuse for digging up a band that he'd not too long ago declared had played its last ever show. I would think he'd obsess over every detail here as he's done in the past. So yeah, it is rather odd.

I realized about six months ago that I've enjoyed every LCD Soundsystem release less than the previous, if you go by "album" releases.

I am the exact opposite of this; I've liked each subsequent LCD release more than the previous one.

you're in a good position

I dunno, This Is Happening was pretty terrible, so I'm not holding out much hope for this.

I love This is Happening, but I'm still sort of filling this away with Sleater-Kinney as a band I used to love and saw live lots and was resigned to never see again coming back and, good new music or no, much to my surprise just not being something I want right now.

This band retires like Brett Favre

i liked the shortened versions of the new singles they played on SNL more than the full-length versions which doesn't make me too optimistic about this

I like them but honestly, their whole career revolves around stealing (not sampling) other artists songs as a backbone and passing it as hommage if caught red handed.

It's a win win situation for them; If you don't catch it they come off as a very talented and creative electroclash band and if you do catch it, it makes it seem like they have excellent taste in music and they know all the references and it's all so motherfucking meta.

I think the whole reunion is a bit lame but fuck it, this band are one of the best bands of recent years and an incredible live act.

everyone has their knives sharpened and ready to slice into their new music itt

Because if you throw yourself a farewell party at Madison Square Garden, film it and release it as a movie, disband for like a minute during which you pursue stupid ass whims like an espresso line, then reunite to fill the coffers through a strict diet of lucrative festival dates, you better come back with something exceptional, because you have a high hurdle of hubris to pass.

Looking to see what else he's been up to beside that dull Arcade Fire album, I saw this:

Subway Symphony

James Murphy has been attempting to change the sound of the New York turnstile beeps since 1999. Murphy has described the current turnstile sound as of 2014 as a “dissonant rubbing-Styrofoam-on-glass squeak” that is “horrible”. Because the Metropolitan Transit Authority plans to update the system by 2019, Murphy has proposed his turnstile plan that would have each turnstile harmonize with others by emitting three-to-five note sequences. Installing new sound chips will be an easier task during the renovations. Murphy feels that the more pleasant sounds will also help people's attitudes toward taking the subway. He believes that people will "feel a nostalgia" for certain destinations when hearing its unique melody. Murphy is completely prepared for the responsibilities if the idea is green-lit by the MTA and would be “broken hearted (if it doesn’t happen)”.

In June 2015, he partnered with Heineken to launch the project, branded as the “Subway Symphony.” However, the MTA has completely denied any possibility of the project happening, as the standard turnstile beep is a necessary ADA-compliant tool for the visually impaired.

Somewhere in there is a neat metaphor, the auteur coming up with a clever riff on Eno's (lucrative) Microsoft start sound without once considering that the existing turnstile sound is there (by law) to assist blind people and not to entertain New Yorkers bummed by urban ennui.

disband for like a minute

six years: lol, u old

Lots of bands take that long in between albums. This whole thing has been such a joke.

without once considering that the existing turnstile sound is there (by law) to assist blind people and not to entertain New Yorkers bummed by urban ennui.

lol otm. when not peddling masterfully marketed ho-hum indie rock this guy does come across as a wannabe Eno w none of the talent

I do think Murphy is talented (and almost exactly five years older than old me). But the band's final show was April 2011. Reunion rumors began and were shortly confirmed after early fall 2015. New music arrived by December. He couldn't even wait 5 years.

I had actually been looking forward to him working as a producer, but after that crap Arcade Fire album my interest faded fast.

His remix of Bowie is great, but again, the greatness is directly related to theft (Reich homage, Bowie samples).

I think the subway idea is great and the ADA compliance thing sounds like a dodge.

TBF I don't think anyone could have polished that dull AF album.

I think two tracks released so far rule and everyone is too cool for school.

Don't really like the album art but hey we're post Napster so...

Hmmm this recording sucks but still, here is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NoWIidAvYo

Lol @ ppl caring about "theft" in this day and age

i don't really care all that much one way or the other but for real i don't get why this isn't a *james murphy* solo album instead of LCD, since he's the one who made such a huge deal about their final show, but then again i'm not a mover and a shaker like *james murphy* is so what do i know

?? LCD Soundsystem has always been a James Murphy solo effort.

not in name. calling this *james murphy* i or whatever would be an easy move to preempt bitching about *LCD Soundsystem" performing its *final* show however many years ago

but i'm guessing he's inviting / baiting backlash?

Maybe he lost his edge.

Probably because his desire to use his well-known brand to market his shit so he can keep making art and make a little money too was worth more to him than getting buy-in on perception on a few message boards.

i first hear LCD from a DFA mix a long time ago. he was producing all those bands and they all sounded really good. what is the best of the stuff he has produced for others since then?

no one would have bought a *james murphy* solo album, for sure

xpost

shouldn't be necessary to do so much second guessing wrt the moniker, murphy's been pretty straightforward abt it:

so i asked pat and nancy to come over to my apartment for coffee and told them: ‘i’m going to record some music. should i make up a band name, or make a ‘james murphy’ record, or should it be ‘lcd?’ we all thought a good amount about it. we have had lives for the past 5 years, which has been nice, and those guys have made amazing music with museum of love, the juan maclean, and all sorts of other things. i’d managed to do a bunch of fun, dumb stuff which mostly annoyed people who were into the band because, well, subway turnstiles and a coffee aren’t lcd, basically.

at any rate, they both said ‘let’s make an lcd record’. you see, if they didn’t want to, which i’d half assumed, then there’s no such thing as lcd. imagine this: me making a record, calling it lcd, and then you go to the show and there’s just some guy playing drums over there, or some other person playing keyboards. horrifying. then imagine this: i make a ‘james murphy’ record, or, i don’t know, an ‘everteen’ record, or whatever made-up name i come up with, and there’s pat playing drums, and nancy. maybe al isn’t too busy with hot chip so he comes to play. what the fuck is that? here were our choices: 1. make music with your friends and call it something else, which seems hilarious (everteen) or egomaniacal to the point of sociopathic (james murphy solo record). 2. make music, but willfully exclude your friends because of the horrors in option 1. 3. make an lcd record with your friends, who want to make said record, and deal with whatever fall-out together. 4. don’t make music, to avoid the horrors of all of the above. 5. make music and, like, hide it somewhere.

makes sense. still a really bad look when you threw yourself a going away party at Madison Square Garden 6 years ago. album better be fucking great (idc either way, never got into LCD), or the vultures will feast.

Does anyone really think anybody cares? The Last Waltz wasn't really the last waltz either.

Does anyone really think anybody cares? The Last Waltz wasn't really the last waltz either.

All well and good. But i doubt the music will be interesting if the first two songs are anything to go by.

God forbid someone change their made and go back to doing something they love

*mind, not *made

btw i really enjoyed 'before and after science class'

http://pitchfork.com/news/watch-lcd-soundsystems-new-tonite-video/

Why listen to Murphy's latest take on Harry Nilsson/Bowie/etc/etc when you can just listen to the original? These new songs are shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xFzhad-bnY

pretty subtle track but diggit.

Still enjoy Call the Police the best.

idk, i really can't be mad at the new single. actually it's pretty fucking awesome xp

Surprisingly into tonite, it's a good single.

This meme unfortunately is stuck in my mind now... :/ You know, glad that jams is returning to music after his stint in the Trump administration.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/240/899/413.jpg

Tonite is great. Easily the best of the three songs out there.

He is kinda underrated as a vocalist. The ability to both hit the notes, switch falsetto off and on, and still sound like you have no idea what you're doing. That takes practice.

The vocalist thing is interesting because it's reminding me about how he would pick these very idiosyncratic references on each major release and really go to town on them. Specifically:

Mark E. Smith on the debut
Heaven 17/Bowie + Eno on 'Sound of Silver'

I'm not sure if there was some particular thing he was trying on the last one or now (or at least I haven't heard something obvious to me?)

I recommend Lizzy Goodman's Meet Me in the Bathroom oral history for any fans, there's a lot of LCD & DFA stuff in there. There's an amazing story about Murphy taking ecstasy for the first time.

yea I think he's underrated too. which is why I never bought into the "some unshaven schlub just decided to make a record" mystique. he tries to hide it but he's got legitimate vocal talent, given the sort of shouty and yelpy sort of music he's in

There were less heady reasons, too. The show at Madison Square Garden had been booked far in advance and the venue “didn’t think we were going to sell well,” Mr. Murphy said. “They were trying to get a big opener for us,” and suggested a nonsensical double bill with Big Boi from Outkast.

“My theory was, if I make it our last show, we’ll sell it out in two weeks,” he said. The show sold out in minutes. “It wasn’t a total lark, but it was a bit larky,” Mr. Murphy admitted. “But I like making decisions. I find it easy.”

this was pretty obvious but it's still something to hear him cop to it. publicity stunt confirmed.

also not sure why was Big Boi also a big pop star was "a nonsensical choice" as the two acts have shared stages many times since

just another plot by those evil music promoters to have you play a show with someone you massively respect

Why listen to Murphy's latest take on Harry Nilsson/Bowie/etc/etc when you can just listen to the original? These new songs are shit

kind of presumptuous to imply that LCD fans don't know about Nilsson and Bowie - Murphy's often liberal "borrowing" has been well established since "Losing My Edge", and doesn't seem to turn a whole lot of people off. its not why *I* like the band in any case.

James Murphy on why Big Boi was a nonsensical choice:

One of the openers they suggested was Big Boi from OutKast. Why on earth would Big Boi open for us? Big Boi was in one of the biggest, most important hip-hop — no, one of the biggest and most important acts of all time. It didn’t make any sense.

It's almost as if that was the most likely reason. But hey, anything for a snark.

^^^ staggering

kind of presumptuous to imply that LCD fans don't know about Nilsson and Bowie - Murphy's often liberal "borrowing" has been well established since "Losing My Edge", and doesn't seem to turn a whole lot of people off. its not why *I* like the band in any case.

Around the time of Sound of Silver and 45:33 you couldn't find a bigger LCD fan than me. But LCD sound their best when they aren't doing their take on Nilsson/Bowie, in my opinion.. My favourite LCD stuff is still the Get Innocuous/45:33 era groove building tracks they did in 2007.

hmph - always thought Get Innocuous had a huge Bowie influence

You liken it to what Bowie?

that descending voice that comes in halfway through the track - very much sounds like Berlin Bowie to me

the rest of the track not so much, but that's maybe my favorite bit on the album, so...

Does he give credit though? I've never seen "cardboard lamb" or "Jamaica running" mentioned anywhere and he lufted those almost completely.

huge Bowie influence

descending voice that comes in halfway through the track.....the rest of the track not so much

So by "huge" you mean really small? Right.

well it is the money shot

and a flakey bowie influence at best

hmph - always thought Get Innocuous had a huge Bowie influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92JO2f4rPw

lots of the 'influences' chat here

i should say it's him playing a bunch of his favourite tunes (Gilbert O Sullivan, Roberta Flack, Nilsson, Bowie, The Fall etc) and talking about them, as 'Lecture' makes it sound very dry and it really isn't.

From the Times interview(s) making the round, basically:

Murphy (on the breakup/makeup): "It wasn’t a total lark, but it was a bit larky."/Bowie made me do it.
Nancy Whang (on the reunion): "It’s crass to say that it was about the money, but it would be insincere to say that wasn’t part of it.”
Al Doyle (on reactions to the Times piece): "I do need y’all to know it wasn’t to grub ticket money.”

revews coming in.. anyone heard it yet from our parish?

Lots of descriptions of this album as "dark" are fascinating me...

when the same word is popping up in multiple reviews it'd be good to have a look at the bio/press kit that came with the promo because those "everybody's saying the album i _______" things are often because the adjective in question was foregrounded in the press materials. which doesn't mean it's not accurate, I don't think it's bullshit for press materials to say "here's a way of listening to the album" but I do think press spin has an actual effect on the way writers talk about records

Certainly when they want to foreground subtle themes. Like, if you start encountering claims that this is a concept album about a man having a breakdown while working at a mall sushi stand, yeah, let me see that press release.

well that's cool, i like when singles fake out the album

If I were an artist with a highly anticipated upcoming album, I would release two identically titled and track-listed albums with totally different music at the same time, just to read the wildly divergent reviews and wait until everyone figured out what happened.

As a fan I think I'd think it was really cool that my favorite band had secretly released two albums at the same time.

*would buy yr merch for a first row ticket*

xp

Each of my seemingly identical albums would secretly include a download code for the other album, because that's only right. Also, they would both be album of the year. And my concerts would not have a front row at all, like the 13th floors in hotels it just won't be there.

No front row? No progress bar? I'm out.

a thread title is but a suggestion to Josh in Scenarios

Honestly, this thread always makes me think one of you crazy contrarians has revived CSNY discussion.

I always loved the idea of an artist making a crappy fake leak ahead of time to fool people

I don't know if anyone's actually done it - IIRC some semi-big name did - but I do remember a lot of people suspecting that Daft Punk and Weezer had done such a thing

yeah didn't Tool do that with Lateralus? or did they just announce a fake title & tracklist?

If I were an artist with a highly anticipated upcoming album, I would release two identically titled and track-listed albums with totally different music at the same time, just to read the wildly divergent reviews and wait until everyone figured out what happened

Old Man Gloom did something very close to this with The Ape Of God.

I think one of the early ones was that No Doubt album where the song titles were right, but each one was just a loop of one part of the song

I remember because the single was literally "feelin' hella good so let's just keep on dancin'" and a couple instrumental stabs... repeated for a couple minutes

I think Madonna did it once?

I think one of the early ones was that No Doubt album where the song titles were right, but each one was just a loop of one part of the song

I remember because the single was literally "feelin' hella good so let's just keep on dancin'" and a couple instrumental stabs... repeated for a couple minutes

lol that rules

ive been trying to think of a single musician or artist i like who was all "I am really concerned bout my legacy".

nope. its some politician bullshit.

there was also the classic merriweather post pavilion leak

you mean when it leaked on Christmas at 8pm or something? yeah that was incredible & one of the best experiences of my life

nah when roxymuzak (?) pissed off a lot of dorks by leaking a fake version

album is ok but unspectacular, 'dark' just means a little more post-punk gloom, including a decent cure pastiche

I Used To is one of my favourite things they've done. I'm guessing that's the Cure pastiche?

for sure sounds like a self-consciously "mature" LCD Soundsystem album. there's a lot of things to like in it, but I can't see it displacing any of the others as a favorite.

Some review said this sounded like a James solo album, but I disagree. I think it sounds very much like a band-in-a-room record. I mean, not radically different from the last couple, but maybe a little more spare. Even more Berlin/Eno Bowie than before, if that's possible. I like it so far (not least because, well, Eno/Bowie, I mean, come on), but I would have liked it better without out the preemptive anticlimactic reunion preamble.

Change Yr. Mind is totally a riff on Eno's "No One Receiving."

I guess I wish there was more of a point to the Bowie/Joy Division/Eno nods, but I admit he could do worse than nod to stuff I like.

Eh, ok, this is totally an album in the old fashioned sense, with a side A and side B. I really liked everything I heard up until and including "Tonite," which I'd call the end of Side A. Then everything from "Call the Police" to "Black Screen" ... I dunno, there were some moments that really annoyed me, and I'm not sure "Black Screen" comes close to justifying its 12 minutes as a closer.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090418175342AA4lP72

I love the weird cut up guitar solos.

American Dreams and Emotional Haircut drag a bit, but otherwise I really like the album. Black Screen is devastating, and overall he seems to try some new things, weirder rhythms, weirder flourishes. He could kinda do this thing for decades, I reckon.

I keep singing/thinking "I could be wrong/I could be right/..." over "Oh Baby".

"Change Yr Mind" sounds like if you slammed the spirit of 'Scary Monsters' and 'Remain in Light' together. Awesome track.

This is most obviously post punk record they've done. I've seen a few reviews that call this a traditional LCD Soundsystem album and I don't get that sentiment at all? The dance punk stuff is pretty much totally missing. "Tonite" is about the only thing that sounds obvious self-referrential.

I think this might be my favorite album with them? But I've never considered them an album band before. There's nothing as good as Yeah or All My Friends on here, but the whole thing really coheres.

You don't think the first half is way better than the second (which is like half Black Screen)?

i love Black Screen. It dips towards the end, sure. But they've never had an opener as good as Oh Baby, and never a closer as good as Black Screen. I think. And it helps that the long tracks are the weirder atmospheric ones, instead of the dance-punk epics.

I'm really into this album. I was so much more excited for This Is Happening coming out (I'm guessing most people were) but my early feelings are this is the better record. The whole album sounds so natural and is a very cohesive listen.

I agree, but the last album is still better.

But they've never had an opener as good as Oh Baby,

better than 'Dance Yrself Clean'???

happy to see the turnaround in tenor itt. i'll listen to this at midnight, sounds good. never was super into LCD but i dig several songs here and there.

have loved all of the singles and cannot wait for this

'I used to' is really great

Yes, I prefer Oh Baby to Dance Yrself Clean. Kitchen Person is right that it sounds very natural. DYC is very much an 'opener' and it feels a tiny bit forced. I still like it, but Oh Baby works better for me.

wow someone loves Remain in Light

Not as much as I love Oh Baby. Had it on repeat the last half hour. God, it's great.

lol the cover art was for real

oh baby great opener (but dance yrself clean was genius)

I was thinking that this was pretty good, prefer it to the last album, at least they didn't fuck it up, put it away and never listen again etc etc and then I got to Call The Police and realised it's actually fucking great.

The cover makes sense in light of the lyrics as well. Strange lack of Trump hot takes so far.

I've never really enjoyed their albums completely but this one is definitely the first one that feels like a complete effort.

"How Do You Sleep?" is my favorite so far.The descriptions I read of it before hearing it made it sounds like a long slough but instead every moment of it is engaging.The beginning of it almost sounds like if LCD started by trying to rip off "In a Lonely Place" by New Order and went somewhere else with the idea.

"Other Voices" really is a watered-down rewrite of "Born Under Punches," down to the Belew-like guitar squonk. But without the big, hooky chorus.

This is boring me so far.

Not as much as I love Oh Baby. Had it on repeat the last half hour. God, it's great.

I was talking about the album lol. there are 2 songs that straight rip Born Under Punches & The Great Curve

It's funny that there's a Cure ripoff on this album and it's not the song literally called "other voices"

I Used To is the obvious Cure one but the vocals in Tonite from 3:50 really remind me of Disintegration

I think this is a much better final album than the last one. They should break up again.

I think this is a much better final album than the last one. They should break up again.

― Josh in Chicago,

Nah. This album at worst does nothing to advance the plot, but it does nothing to weaken the band's otherwise pretty solid catalog.

I'd be cool with them breaking up again, though.

How Do You Sleep = Someone Not Great

This album and pretty much everything by LCD = something.

dull and bad as usual. maybe the second half will pick up?

we should have precovered this too

'i used to' slightly less dull and bad than most of their songs tbf

these posts still allow for them not usually being very dull and bad

he is almost the perfect hipster milquetoast. he's pathologically incapable of having an interesting idea. sometimes he executes an uninteresting idea well

idk, LCD definitely has tracks. Debuting your band with "Losing My Edge" was brilliant. "Someone Great" is a beautiful song. "Dance Yrself Clean" is great but overplayed for me.

all of those, especially someone great, are boring ideas executed well

what ideas are you talking about? the melodies, the arrangement, the voices used in the composition?

or whatever the song is an homage/pastiche of? bc that's one that I don't hear anything obvious in - feels very original

melody, arrangement, structure etc

someone great is especially well-done, is what I meant. and its bendy synth line is a really good boring idea

Why is a bendy synth a boring idea? Please explain objectively.

if a "boring idea" turns out to be a good song you might have to concede it was not in fact a bad idea

xxp we are too frequently satisfied having our pre-chorus before our chorus and it is booooooring

you know it's kind of strange that SoS's two best songs are nakedly earnest and autobiographical while the rest of the album is "It's TIME to get away-uhh"

if a "boring idea" turns out to be a good song you might have to concede it was not in fact a bad idea

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, September 1, 2017 8:17 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it wasn't a BAD idea! sometimes boring ideas are good ideas idk. it's a song i'm happy that exists, and i'm also happy to never hear ever

the bendy synth line in it is probably his best idea ever, but you'll have to convince me it's in any way interesting

i'm being harsh of course but every time i hear this band i just hear someone playing it almost aggressively safe, every time

I dunno, I think they play it safely LCD Soundsystem, but I can think of ways they could be "safer." Shorter songs, attempts to be funky rather than hypnotic ...

Personally, I would love to see/hear/read a piece where huge LCD fans hear the Talking Heads, Eno, Berlin Bowie or Joy Division for the first time.

vintage throwback lj here

He's never ever seemed interested in creating new sounds or genres, but in creating a world out of his favorite records/reference/vintage gear etc.

that seems fair

this record would be better if it wasn't an lcd soundsystem record

not because it matters what the band is called but because i think they would have made more interesting decisions about how to present these ideas if they were facing down the prospect of having to tour it without being able to lean on the old songs to make the shows good

the engine driving the old records was a dude who on paper was not supposed to be perceived as relevant daring to make relevant music

this is the inverse, it's someone who on paper is relevant by default daring to make a record that just absolutely isn't relevant

i'm sure there are good ideas here because he has had a lot of them and i doubt he stopped having them suddenly

i just don't enjoy listening to this enough to ever find them

I think that's very fair and gets into what makes this "safe." You can see the wires attached in case something goes wrong and they fall.

JM is the voltron of the killer record store nearby where he grew up

http://www.prex.com/

other voices, as an evolution of pow pow with crosseyed and painless chorus grafted on, seems most guilty, but i still have time for it. so safe is a fair criticism of some tracks in so far as it's relative to their previous work. the album still feels like it has some new territory for them somehow. the increment is maybe smaller this time. breaking up and reuniting probably doesn't help my perception of that increment. i'm still enjoying this v much.

call me stephensufjan stills

ok. third time through and maybe there's more TH on here than just one droopy crosseyed and painless chorus, lol

There's a 12 minute tribute to David Bowie on here, which goes completely instrumental for the last five minutes. The idea that this is 'safe' says more about how many things LCD has tried throughout their career than how little they try here.

have not read this thread yet but played this album today. i think this is much better, on first listen, then the last record. i'm glad they came back and made more music.

This is a really good album, much to my surprise and delight! I hadn't loved any tracks that were shared individually but everything makes sense, sonically, when you hear it as a whole.

Posts about the boringness of the ideas, or how boring ideas are manifested in this record on this thread seem like intellectual posturing, imo. I've seen an English person post about such and such being "milquetoast" - to use that phrase, I mean, come on, get over yourself/selves.

But I do think that there's something unsavoury about swooping in to a thread on an album that's a day old to tell everyone how boring it is - and the reason I know that is because I've do t it myself many years ago.

(Apologies, phone post)

i like Other Voices and Change Yr Mind but they really do just sound like Remain In Light tracks with at least one layer of guitars missing, which is disappointing because usually he's better at coming up with some sort of interesting synthesis of references etc

the only duds on this album are Emotional Haircut and Black Screen

first part otm. Second part is madness. maybe.

Posts about the boringness of the ideas, or how boring ideas are manifested in this record on this thread seem like intellectual posturing
otm

you can normalize
don't it make you feel alive?

lcd soundystem is best when the songs don’t have ideas

i enjoy this record a lot and i enjoy imago but he hasn't said why the ideas are boring or that person has boring ideas and why those ideas are boring. at least be explicit if you are going to come in and dis something, come on man.

mh, all my friends has an interesting concept and is one of their best. you can't say losing my edge is a boring idea for a song.

further to my post up there that said

How Do You Sleep = Someone Not Great

i wonder to what extent the specifics of the goldsworthy-murphy relationship have soured to the degree that he was someone great who has gone to being someone who seems completely toxic.

asking for a friend...

i don't think someone great was about goldsworthy if that's what you're saying?

losing my edge is _half_ an idea and that’s why it’s good

maybe it’s stories I think are done less well, but “losing my edge” is “I’ve got a bag of names to drop but can’t keep up with the kids”
“All my friends” is basically the same theme only “we go out and listen to/play music but we’re getting old”
“Daft Punk is Playing at My House” is insanely literal and not my favorite but he still does the “kid” thing in it!

like the main lcd themes I like are “here is a song where we repeat some nonsense and do some build-up with the instruments” or “I’m old and kids are gonna eat my dinner”

there are some other good songs but Murphy really pulled a lot of things out with just those bits

Great record on first listen. I'm going to need to spend some more time with it, but I enjoyed this much more than I thought I would.

xxp "Someone Great" is about Murphy's therapist. according to Lizzy Goldman's book, it was written on the day he died.

here are some other good songs but Murphy really pulled a lot of things out with just those bits

I'm with james. This record is too self-important to be enjoyable maybe that's their intention a sort of meta band gping full circle and it'll all end up being brilliant in context but I dont care I just wanted to dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkQFzVrpCAQ

this record blows

Oh Baby is pretty amazing. then the Byrne tributes start.

Oh I'd always thought someone great was about Goldsworthy. Ignore my pish!

Listened to this at the beach yesterday. So much better than I was expecting. Happy surprise! How Do You Sleep? is fire

Definitely a bass guitar album.

His records sound so great.

Listening to this for the 1st time. "How do you sleep?" is dope

Depends how much you wanna hear a middle aged man doing his variant on "It's not the side effects of the cocaine" over a variant on "Dance Yrself Clean."

Besides being unsure exactly what this means, is it wrong that as someone gradually edging their way into middle age I've got no issue in principle?

dear 'oh baby' fans,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od-GIE9kNG8

Nice. That's a fairly good track as well. Thanks for that.

wow it's not a 'song' album is it? sounds great but lots of go-to-the-bar/for a fag/ for a wee moments when you see the new tour.

can't hear the Remain In Light references. so far.

Change yr mind is the most direct Talking Heads pastiche in hear but not hearing it that much. I think it sounds more like LCD Soundsystem trying to sound like LCD Soundsystem this time. So a copy of a copy.

distinct Plainsong vibe from Oh Baby.

His records sound so great.

This one sounds way better than the last one to me, which was kinda thin-sounding? All the synths sound amazing.

Definitely a bass guitar album.

And looking at the credits it's mostly JM...he's a really good bass player, huh?

whoah, piscesx otm. definitely a Plainsong vibe from that song- distinct from the direct melodic lifts from Remain in Light.

And the chorus of PiL's Rise and the synth line from Yazoo!'s Don't Go.

It's from Only You isn't it?

Yes, that's correct!

Got half way through the first song then got bored...started listening to the 2nd track and remembered how great music from 'The Catherine Wheel' is and put that on instead...this band is rotten...

Wow I have not thought about Catherine Wheel in a good decade.

Change yr mind is the most direct Talking Heads pastiche in hear but not hearing it that much. I think it sounds more like LCD Soundsystem trying to sound like LCD Soundsystem this time. So a copy of a copy.

― dance cum rituals (Moka), Monday, September 4, 2017

^^
This.

Emotional Haircut is the one that really sounds like Talking Heads to me, or like '80s King Crimson trying to be Talking Heads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUqGK-Z9a9I

Just got around to listening to this - unsurprisingly, I like it.

and I'm not much of a fan of Talking Heads.

Emotional Haircut reminded me more of Wire than anything else

One of them really sounds like Berlin Bowie. Specifically Heroes, with the crazy Fripp guitar.

do you think the references make the record better/worse/doesn't matter?

All their records have absolutely been laden with references, musical and lyrical, to other music. Hell, their debut single was literally a list of people who inspired them. It's part of the DNA, the schtick, the USP of LCD Soundsystem. Less a band than a system that mashes up other music and plays it back to you. They're the 00s American Primal Scream.

They're the 00s American Primal Scream.

Also, Primal Scream were largely the product of great producers, not a great band. I know someone who was around for the creation of 'Screamadelica' and he will tell you that record was the output of holing up in the studio with some average rock tracks, Andrew Weatherhall being an enthuisastic total amateur at the time and not knowing what was wrong to do, and a Herculean amount of pot.

In contract, LCD is unquestionably the James Murphy show. He even had that interview recently where he said he gave up on producing other people because he can't work that way (i.e. collaborate!)

So what's your take on Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR, then?

So what's your take on Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR, then?

Primal Scream were largely the product of great producers, not a great band

It's a different system that does the mashing.

james murphy is just a heavy-handed production outfit who happens to also be the artist

Aye.

this bored me

Thanks! Why?

this album is class

xposts:

You have a point with Screamadelica, not so much the othet two.

Screamadelica's approach is replicated in XTRMNTR by [the core of] Primal Scream specifically seeking out various producers for different sounds on specific songs. This is obviously a creative decision by the band - they knew that Paterson and Miller and Weatherall would provide disparate results, and sought them as collaborators, just as they sought Denise or George Clinton or Augustus Pablo or Mani as collaborators. That they were making their decisions wilfully, not being shaped helplessly at the whim of hired adults, is underscored by Vanishing Point sounding like Vanishing Point, not like Wild Wood and Stanley Road.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7957890/lcd-soundsystem-james-murphy-no-1-album-billboard-200-chart

No. 1 on US Album chart ... but it's bringing me down

85000 copies sold, that is impressive

81000 even...

Thanks! Why?

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, September 8, 2017 10:00 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess it's sort of on paper a lot of things that I "should" like a lot, wrt all the post punk references edging up against dance stuff but with a certain classic rock grandiose stadium quality

but overall, i don't know there's no weird mental frission that marks the best period post punk for me, a genuine weirdness and disorienting quality that comes from maybe not really knowing what the fuck you are doing in a way, or trying to accomplish things that are beyond your abilities

like whatever early PIL or Raincoats or Swell Maps or Joy Division/New Order or The Fall or Gang of Four have, this just doesn't have it to me, it feels like he is a canny guy with good taste and a good template for what makes LCD Soundsystem albums at this point but ultimately it's like, I dunno, All That You Can't Leave Behind era U2 or something, some real pros executing their style effectively

"some real pros executing their style effectively"

that sounds great!

it helps if it's in any way interesting, too

I mean, you could write some music that is completely uninteresting but checks all the stylistic and technical boxes, and perform it in a proficient way, and still be boring as hell

(that isn't about LCD, just that praising well-performed things isn't necessarily a complement)

get a sense that they are trying to accomplish Belew solos at points in this, but it is beyond their abilities

otm

I guess good for them for not just having Byrne/Belew/anyone else just play on their records, since surely they could at this point?

I'm not sure Byrne would be in, but Belew is cool doing session work and I'm fine with that!

Emotional Haircut reminded me more of Wire than anything else

― ufo, Friday, September 8, 2017 12:11 AM (three days ago)

As soon as I read that I could hear "I'm the Fly" in my head.

Album art looks like an ilxor quoteblock

Pre-s/t singles = metal gear solid
S/t = metal gear solid 2
Sound of silver = metal gear solid 3
45:33 = metal gear solid peace walker
This is happening = metal gear solid 4
American dream = metal gear solid 5
Introns, bunch of stuff, the one from the Kevin spacey movie, etc = ghost babel, portable ops, the tactical rpg one, etc

If you know what I am talking about and disagree, fucking fight me

I have no idea wtf you mean.

good for you, otherwise you'd have to fucking fight him!

American dream = metal gear solid 5

Also, lol.

i don't think that analogy works at all but lol

Also Murphy and Kojima might have similar tastes - Murphy clearly loves New Order and Kojima named one of his releases 'Substance' for the same reason - but as far as temperment is concerned, Kojima has none of that James Murphy self deprecation and referentiality; Kojima is 100% scatterbrain ego mania, moving effortlessly from David Bowie references to fuckin' holographic blue whales coming out of the fuckin' earth.

As I type this I realize Kojima would slay that wimpy Murphy.

love you nerds

Kojima is an old goth - he always post stuff abt New Order, Joy Division, the Smiths, Echo & the Bunnymen etc etc

Emotional Haircut reminded me more of Wire than anything else

― ufo, Friday, September 8, 2017 12:11 AM (three days ago)

I can't stop hearing Geddy Lee sing "Emo-tion-al haircut - on timeless wavelength/bearing a gift beyond price/almost free"

i will never fucking forgive this thread for forcing me to equate "zaireeka" to metal gear

This thread is more interesting than this drab of an album.

a lil drab'll do ya, in this case

will never fucking forgive this thread for forcing me to equate "zaireeka" to metal gear

You're welcome.

His records sound so great.

This one sounds way better than the last one to me, which was kinda thin-sounding? All the synths sound amazing.

Definitely a bass guitar album.

And looking at the credits it's mostly JM...he's a really good bass player, huh?

The album was mastered by Shellac bass player Bob Weston, if that could have something to do with it

Anyway I'm in love with this performance from Jools Holland last week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORGpezG5-Jc

Bob Weston's is always a name I'm pleased to see on mastering credits.

I, surprisingly, did not have a problem with the album, but no joke, I literally forgot it existed.

Finally listened to this today; the CD's been sitting on top of a speaker for two weeks. There's been plenty of other new stuff to listen to, but I think I've also been avoiding it.

But it's ... actually really, really good! TBH I was more than happy for 'Home' to be their final statement, but I'm pleased to be so wrong. And whoever said upthread that this was a bass guitar album was totally OTM.

This is not a very enjoyable record.

I liked Wire's review;

".. the inexpressive lite-white stadium bluster of the tracks - frequently recalling U2 at their bloated worst.. This record is no cause for celebration. It's a slab of nothing, a media spectacle for the terminally impressed.. "

I saw that it's Album Of The Year in one of the big monthlies but I forget which.

It left no impression on me when it first came out, but I decided to give it a second shot tonight because I just caught up with Tom Scharpling's excellent interview with Murphy from the summer. This time around, I'm not only finding it boring, but actually unpleasant. "How Do You Sleep" is particularly dreary.

seems like there other records had some combination of hope/humor that seems in short supply here.

Wire quote is good. It feels like a record that's not behind the times, but rather completely besides it. Combined with an artist who painfully overrates the importance of his own second coming, this shit should've been butchered in 2017. It's completely risk-free, reliant on distant memories: the most boring music alive. Slab of nothing indeed.

it's not that bad, calm down

at the time i blamed it on the weed i had eaten along with arca's set rewiring my brain, but they sucked at pitchfork. that wire quote pretty much sums up how i felt about it, though i would add that murphy probably watched 'stop making sense' way too many times

mean thread

Album of the year for this record is... interesting

it's not surprising at all, it's a big comeback release from a critically acclaimed band with lots of cross over appeal, their first to reach the #1 spot on Billboard too

of course it's going to get a lot of votes in a Mojo eoy poll, and it wouldn't need #1 votes to top the poll

“how do you sleep” is actually great

though i’m guess i’m tired of james “the only record i’ve listened to in the past ten years is the idiot” murphy

and Remain in Light

I don't have strong feelings about LCD, love a handful of songs, but there are some serious RIL rips on this record. beyond 'quotes.' in addition to the sound of the whole thing

yea he's always borrowed pretty liberally but there are two songs on this album that steal the sound of RIL so blatantly that I can't think of anything else when I'm hearing them

still think this is probably his best record overall and a perfectly defensible AOTY choice

I agree. like, why not this one?

It's not that good, calm down

I enjoyed this record a lot. Still do.

xpost it's not that good. but neither is it that bad. It's total nostalgic comfort food, so can go either way, but I think ultimately that saves it from any legit hate, imo. which is why I say sure, put it on the end of the year lists. Something's going to make it to those lists and I know I'm going to hate more of those records than I hate this record, which I don't even listen to.

I needed to test out my theory that I was simply over James Murphy at this point, so I spun This is Happening this morning, but nope, it still sounds terrific.

i’m openly nostalgic for the brief year or so where we thought the rapture would be the ‘band’ on dfa records and lcd would be experimental synth dancefloor experiments of one of the owners with other projects branching out in different directions

I don't eat comfort food though

yea he's always borrowed pretty liberally but there are two songs on this album that steal the sound of RIL so blatantly that I can't think of anything else when I'm hearing them

yeah I like this album but had the same exact issue w/ those two songs. like if you told JM his new assignment was to make a RiL pastiche, I'm not sure he could do better than 'other voices'.

It's probably just me, but I find this album becomes immensely entertaining when I imagine it being sung by Will Ferrell as Mugatu from Zoolander

lmao

lol fuck this guys and his 10 nights of shows in Brooklyn this month. really?

Right?

I often think about how residencies used to be a big thing, not only in jazz but also in folk, and afaik with fx CBGBs also punk/new wave, and how cool would it be to be able to see Bob Dylan or Talking Heads twice a week

but now I guess it's a Vegas thing

Dylan did a residency here a few years ago, playing five nights in various venues big and small. Was pretty fun, but the sets were not terribly different, iirc. Wilco has done a couple of residencies here, once playing every song they'd ever recorded over the course of a few nights. But LCD? A band so linked to electronics and sequencing and arrangements, it's unlikely the set will or even can differ radically from night to night. Just songs played in a different order.

I'd rather see LCD Soundsystem than two knobheads trying to play acoustic guitars badly to a bunch of fucking neckbeards.

i don't post in ILM enough to know but are you just a troll ? i only see you in threads talking stupid shit

No, but you're entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it is.

Anyway, I still really like this album a lot.

I think the pseudo-residency thing isn't about artistic variation or anything but just giving people what they want without demand driving ticket prices through the roof or having to book a huge venue that's not a good concert experience. If a musician can play one show in a much smaller city, I don't know why they wouldn't look at doing a lot more than one near NYC where there are orders of magnitude many more people who might attend.

If you don't feel like actually touring you just cut out the rest of the tour entirely

like i said my opinion is based on a small sample size xxp

xp true true, but 10 shows? that's like, Springsteen or Dylan or McCartney level

they're playing at a 1800 person capacity venue, though

If he can do it, then why not?

I don't think every seat is always filled, but even in podunk midwest cities McCartney & co. are playing in 16k - 20k person venues

idk it just seemed a little extra but i'm not going so whatever

I was in the city back in april and they did something like five days at the same venue. Thought about going but the night I was free was sold out and I didn't feel like dealing w/it

they're playing at a 1800 person capacity venue, though

― mh, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 3:04 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are there 18,000 people that want to see LCD in NYC? Barclays capacity is a little over 18,000. MSG is 20,000 and they only sold out that show by pumping it up as their last. or did it sell out? i don't remember. I don't begrudge them, if you can book 10 nights at a 1,800 cap venue more power to you, it's just confusing.

Didn't they do three nights at MSG?

no, but they did like half a dozen warmup shows at Terminal 5 leading up to MSG

I think it's one of those paradoxical things where a band's artistic sense/popularity peaked but the trickle-down effect means there's a large enough casual following to sell out shows for years to come

they did that to stop peopple scalping tickets for $1500 so i think it's safe to say they sold it out, yes.

they sold out two nights at a 2000 capacity venue in glasgow in the autumn. it sold out in less than one hour before i even could connect to the website. they just sold two nights at 5,000 venue in glasgow for next summer within a day. NYC is about 20 times the population of glasgow.

every person who moved into post-2000 gentrified brooklyn was given a LCD album on arrival and the number of people in that category's only swelled

I think in the documentary he's given a mini replica of MSG as a trophy for selling the place out.

There were a lot of seats still available in Toronto a couple of nights before the show, though maybe it sold out by showtime. I saw them at Wayhome, loved it, don't need to see them again.

think some of yall are massively underrating this band's popularity - theirs is still the only show I've ever had difficulty finding tickets for

They played three nights in a row at Vega in Copenhagen as well

xpost They're clearly massively popular, or at least on par with Arcade Fire, the National, a few others. LCD irks me the most (well, Arcade Fire is pretty bad) about doing Big Popular Band things while at the same time complaining about having to do Big Popular Band things. "Oh, sad us, we wish we didn't have to play MSG, or all these festivals, but that's just the way it is, and we're barely breaking even once you take out our expenses of burning massive piles of money." "We had no idea we'd sell out this modest club in our hip hometown, but it's OK, we'll just play 10 shows, because that way everyone will get to see us, because there's no way we'll ever sell out 10 nights at a tiny venue." Etc.

I still like this band a lot but Murphy's T-shirt + sport coat + uncombed hair + face full of gray stubble look is a bit odd considering he's been famous for like 15 years

x-post: Yeah, their lyrics can be pretty bad and unwindy.

But LCD? A band so linked to electronics and sequencing and arrangements, it's unlikely the set will or even can differ

I saw LCD three times and they were playing live as far as I could tell, able to vary on cues from Murphy, or adapt to additional non-touring players coming onstage for odd songs at a festival

It'd be pretty wasteful to have a 7-10 piece of distinct multi-instrumentalists on the road but be playing to tracks

I don't begrudge them, if you can book 10 nights at a 1,800 cap venue more power to you, it's just confusing.

Shows in 18,000 capacity venues suck total ballbag, shows in 1800-cap rooms are a great experience if you actually like live music

I've seen LCD maybe ... 7? 8 times? More? Enough times that I've lost count. In small clubs and in big places. They've always been pretty good to great, but strictly live/real time or no - and I have no reason to believe they're not playing "live" - I've never heard them do any particular song two different ways, or at least not with any significant differences. I'm sure there is sequencing/ triggering and stuff going on - there has to be, at least to keep the tempos consistent or the patches queued up or whatever. But, for point of comparison, I've never seen them as loose as I've seen, say, New Order, which ultimately doesn't say much, save that New Order can be pretty sloppy. And even on that front nu-New Order is pretty much as locked down as LCD is.

It's not a problem with LCD, I should stress. They're pretty good at what they do, and it's not like the aforementioned National or Arcade Fire go off script live much, either. But they do seem to have a tad more latitude/flexibility when it comes to shaking up 10 night stands, imo. Every time I've seen LCD Soundsystem live they've been, like I said, good to great, but always the same, more or less.

both sic and jic otm, LCD is a very "live" band but outside of a funkier version of "Daft Punk" and a hyperextended "Yeah" they really don't sound a whole lot different than they do in the studio - the band is often better live, even if Murphy's vocals are usually worse. I think having a 4th album of material to draw from will serve them well.

there's a notable degree of projection happening itt

9 shows, sure. but ten shows? really? fuck you.

I found the new album underwhelming, but the songs were much more enjoyable live.

Maybe because the new stuff feels like a proper group effort, and not songs written by James Murphy as performed by 10 James Murphys.

9 James Murphys, sure

irl giggle

hang on isn't the reason they're doing 10 shows, simply so they can play to the number of people who want to go without having to do an arena show? i mean i'm not sure quite where the raging and swearing about this is coming from. popular NY band does 10 NY shows shocker. they could probably easily done the same 10 years or more ago or near as dammit.

xpost They're clearly massively popular, or at least on par with Arcade Fire, the National, a few others. LCD irks me the most (well, Arcade Fire is pretty bad) about doing Big Popular Band things while at the same time complaining about having to do Big Popular Band things. "Oh, sad us, we wish we didn't have to play MSG, or all these festivals, but that's just the way it is, and we're barely breaking even once you take out our expenses of burning massive piles of money." "We had no idea we'd sell out this modest club in our hip hometown, but it's OK, we'll just play 10 shows, because that way everyone will get to see us, because there's no way we'll ever sell out 10 nights at a tiny venue." Etc.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:22 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this post is really weird esp since they don't seem very complaining as a band, at all. i guess some people can never win, what exactly do you want them to do?

We've talked about it already, but there have been plenty of James Murphy Agonistes articles and interviews. Personally, I'm fine with LCD, but I'm still going to make fun of them and complain, which has come easier to me since the "reunion."

Tur He Can

not that i had much hope, but i gave this a shot tonight. terrible record. couldn't finish.

x-post: Yeah, their lyrics can be pretty bad and unwindy.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:26 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

far from being bad or unwindy [sic]/not (sic)

they are actually searing on Tonite. I don't think I've read pop lyrics this clever for a long time

tonite

LCD Soundsystem

Everybody's singing the same song
It goes "tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight"
I never realized these artists thought so much about dying
But truth be told we all have the same end
Could make you cry, cry, cry, cry, cry
But I'm telling you
This is the best news you're getting all week

Oh sure it's ruling the airwaves
What remains of the airwaves
And we're frankly thankful for the market psychology you're hipping us to

And all the hits are saying the same thing
There's only tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight
Then life is finite
But shit, it feels like forever
It feels like forever

Oh is everybody feeling the same stuff?
We're all wild
Except for you
And you know who you are
This is a love song

And you're getting older
I promise you this; you're getting older
And there's improvements unless
You're such a winner
That the future's a nightmare
And there's nothing I can do
Nothing anyone can do about this

And oh, I'm offering you a chance to get even
But oh, you know very well the dialect of negation
Sure enemies haunt you with spit and derision
But friends are the ones who can put you in an exile
But that's not right

And you're too sharp to be used
Or you're too shocked from being used
By these bullying children of the fabulous
Raffling off limited edition shoes

And what's it you do again?
Oh I'm a reminder
The hobbled veteran of the disk shop inquisition
Set to parry the cocksure of men's sick filth
With my own late era middle-aged ramblings

Every lover favors the same things
It's all "touch me, touch me, touch me, touch me tonight"
We maybe realize what it is we need before we die

And luck is always better than skill at things
We're flying blind
Oh good gracious
I sound like my mom

But out of the little rooms and onto the streets
You've lost your internet and we've lost our memory
We had a paper trail that led to our secrets
But embarrassing pictures have now all been deleted
By versions of selves that we thought were the best ones
'Till versions of versions of others repeating
Come laughing at everything we thought was important
While still making mistakes that you thought you had learned from
And reasonable people know better than you
That cost in the long run but they don't know the short game
And terrible people know better than you
They're used and abused of the once so dear listener
So you will be badgered and taunted until death
You're missing a party that you'll never get over
You hate the idea that you're wasting your youth
That you stood in the background oh until you got older
But that's all lies
That's all lies
It's gonna have to be good enough, I can't do this anymore, my brain won't work

But out of the little rooms and onto the streets
You've lost your internet and we've lost our memory
We had a paper trail that led to our secrets
But embarrassing pictures have now all been deleted
By versions of selves that we thought were the best ones
'Till versions of versions of others repeating
Come laughing at everything we thought was important
While still making mistakes that you thought you had learned from

yeah those are shockingly great actually

maybe that’s why the later stuff hasn’t hit for me, I like my depressed introspection buried under a layer of yeahs

the lyrics might be good! the delivery is....not.

i think that

Oh I'm a reminder
The hobbled veteran of the disk shop inquisition
Set to parry the cocksure of men's sick filth
With my own late era middle-aged ramblings"

is a lift from

Just like I told ya
Prefers karaoka
Cheap shit half-dollar man
The sky calendar
Bar, home
Speculates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBOmAnhh6xk

or maybe another part. whut.

quite drink

The Rian Johnson directed video for "oh baby"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gIhrPGyu6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pWaLlrhdgM

they sound completely out of ideas

Starts like a bad Le Tigre song

It looks like James Murphy is going to appear for the Q&A at tonight's NYFF premiere of White Noise.

I guess it's possible whatever he made for the film will work well within the context of the film. I always thought Dylan's score for Pat Garrett was actually good but close to useless as standalone listening (with "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" being a lone exception).

starts like a B52s song.