Peggy Gou

Does Peggy Gou need her own thread? I have no idea at all but her new single is so nice, I felt like I was going to run into breathing difficulties while I was listening to it. Is she any good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlbVgjFvE3I

pretty good dj if you like techno, electro and house in the classicist tradition. recommend checking out her boiler room / dekmantel set.

hadn't heard the new one, until just now. better than her earlier productions which i thought were a bit faceless

i did buy one of her rekids 12s on the strength of the galcher lustwerk remix on the other side, which is an incredible carl craig style journey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZNvNEhT47A

oh I enjoyed that, thank you!

I'm a fan

i really like her mixing style, funky but relaxed

https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=607

mixmag set shreds

im obsessed w itgehane and im mad i didnt hear it the entire weekend at movement

han jan is just as good imo

cover!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcc158scJ1Q

Um... this kinda works and it translates btwn styles really well? To the credit of both coveror and esp originator I think.

Yeah I love it, it made me download the comparably disappointing Orielles album

That's awesome

That's really good!

I wonder what Peggy thinks of it?

New single from ILM's 2018 poll winner!

https://open.spotify.com/album/6EgGBFTnsLi1WZaHDtpeie?si=BMfRPk5WR1619hMHp8x-3g

always going to be a difficult follow-up, i like it though! all about the contrast between the stunted, almost early disco-sounding piano riff and the dreamy little sections after the vocal part when it gets a bit more expansive

Who's your favourite member of Wu-Tang? Mine's Rapper Peggy Gou pic.twitter.com/tKMTCNzwZ3

— Sean Griffiths (@SeanMixmag) April 11, 2019

Peggy is the cover star of ES magazine (the London Evening Standard* weekly mag) this week.

*free newspaper, currently edited by former Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne. Basically dedicated now to trolling Theresa May but has some decent-ish arts coverage too

stoked

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/43704

also i bought the rekids single on the strength of the galcher remix but the A2 turned out to be a sleeper ... er, at least, i slept on it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ydt6dUjws

Buddy Guy
Peggy Gou

at the top of the thread list looks neat.

Thought the same thing

aha yeah just put it on thread connections!!

+1

I absolutely LOVE that DJ Kicks artwork

omg yeah

squiggly acid melodies under piano chords are my kink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_wwmmo6UGY

I'm putting together my 2018 mix and still don't get It Makes You Forget (Itgehane) - it just sounds vaguely pleasant but inconsequential.

Can anyone give me a way in here? What is it that people love about this track so much?

I also liked-liked not loved-loved the track until I finally heard it out, there’s something very... comforting and vibesy about it on the dancefloor, and the evident abundant happiness it provokes in people. It’s that as much as anything else that makes it classic.

Other tracks which had a similar dynamic for me are Kyla’s “Do You Mind” and Todd Terje’s “Inspector Norse”, both of which I thought were great on first contact but never imagined they would be massive anthems that were also personally important to me - but the latter personal important ultimately was routed through their status as anthems.

I also liked-liked not loved-loved the track until I finally heard it out, there’s something very... comforting and vibesy about it on the dancefloor, and the evident abundant happiness it provokes in people. It’s that as much as anything else that makes it classic.

Other tracks which had a similar dynamic for me are Kyla’s “Do You Mind” and Todd Terje’s “Inspector Norse”, both of which I thought were great on first contact but never imagined they would be massive anthems that were also personally important to me - but the latter personal important ultimately was routed through their status as anthems.

Sorry for the double post

Itgehane felt like an instant classic the moment I heard it. There’s a certain timelessness about it - like it’s so familiar and reminiscent of a million other songs yet evidently it’s own thing. And yes, it kills on the dancefloor every time.

It’s a deceptively polished track. I don’t really know what to say about it other than I think it’s gorgeous and I love it.

I see it compared to Inspector Norse a lot, but they are so so very different beasts. That song is massive, anthemic and cathartic, evoking emotions of sheer exuberance. It has a climax. Itgehane is cozy and comforting (literally making you forget your worries); it flows and weaves perfectly fluidly until its done. I think it's a solid club track, but I also don't quite get the cult around it.

Itgehane is alright but I the 'chorus' melody is just close enough to the middle 8 of 'Sowing the Seeds of Love' to get the latter tune stuck in my head after a few minutes. My problem and not the tune's though!

Your problem is listening to too much Tears for Fears. There's nothing remarkable to me about Itgehane other than the lovely timbre of her voice, I prefer Starry Night. Inspector Norse really pops in a way Itgehane doesn't. I don't get that comparison at all.

Peggy gou as a producer is a little bit overrated imo

I like this and Inspector Norse. Both huge anthems that struck me as immediately appealing altho in different ways

New collab with Maurice Fulton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnsVDzZLazs

did she apologise for taking that cheque from saudi arabia yet

This goes hard: https://soundcloud.com/peggygou/wap-peggy-gous-house-in-this-ho-remix-final-1?ref=clipboard&p=i&c=1

It does - though I feel like maybe the Forbid Remix was the better take on "WAP" if only because it really gets to the point.

Daniel Wang posts long gossipy rant about Peggy Gou (tbh he doesn't come across as the best here either, but yknow it's 2020, everyone's a nightmare): https://www.facebook.com/daniel.wang.16503/posts/10157474272660957

lmao not surprising

ignoring the outfits of Escada mixed with Supreme on top of Hilfiger (anything with a pricey label!), the bad makeup and overpowering perfume (red alerts for mental illness, hello?)

so much to unpack here

i got a pun ready but i’m going to save it until he shows up

even with the caveat of everyone being a nightmare in 2020 (are they?) i can’t get past the line boxedjoy quoted

like why would you ever write that if you weren’t an enormous piece of shit

peggy gou seems like a rich person which means she def sucks but would i ever write a multi-paragraph post about how she refused to organize records at her record store job (quelle scandal) where most of the kudos in the comments were coming from people who were also saying misogynist, racist, and ablelist shit, i’d wonder who was the real monster here

the comments were a cesspit. Vakula chiming in was enough of a red flag for me.

If Wang thought she was really that awful then surely he would have distanced himself from her long before now. There are plenty of articles out there about how he, as a neighbour, helped get her career started. If she was as awful as he claims then it would have been easy - and diplomatic - of him to distance himself by downplaying his support, "oh its not really to do with me, let's not talk about her" would have been sufficient.

yeah that line quoted above jumped out at me too.

tbh i regret posting/sharing that - it was a bit of an amusing trifle when I read it earlier but it pissed me off the more i thought about it. Like sure, she comes across as a bit of an asshole but asshole white, male DJs are a dime a dozen and I don’t see Daniel Wang coming for the rest of them? Just her? guess none of them had the bad luck of being his neighbour in Berlin.

And him saying that she doesn’t deserve a pass for being a WOC is just... yeah, yikes.

I kept reading waiting for the bombshell that would warrant the amount of time he implied he needed to compose it, and the "trembling" and nauseousness etc he teased in the beginning, but it was just a smattering of varying shitty behavior stories. Lots of extremely you had to be there anticlimaxes.

Well, he was only next door neighbors with this particular DJ to be fair in that regard specifically.

xpost

Oh duh you said that I glazed over that. Nevermind

I kept reading waiting for the bombshell that would warrant the amount of time he implied he needed to compose it,

Exactly how I felt. She doesn't hold the door open for neighbours, omg... tbh I actually judge people quite harshly for things like this and bet PG is a total horror but this is not the story Wang thinks it is.

by which I mean that it says more about him.

I'm trembling and i want to vomit as i finally write this on my Samsung phone wtf? from writing this? nice life you must have dude

Maybe it's due to the physical struggle of writing all that with your thumbs

I'm not above gossip every now and then (all the time) but spare everyone the self-pity jfc

Yeah the 'this a healing process for me!' tone really jars and makes me less inclined to believe him. I'd be more into it if was 'haha do you guys wanna hear some shit?'

I've always found Gou's music and aesthetic a bit lifestyle magazine-ish to be honest so doesn't surprise me if she is a bit like that.

Daniel Wang('s music) is amazing. This attempt at canceling over boring neighbor gripes is dumb.

Wang has done a few vids for 'Electronic Beats'. He comes across as an enlightened intelligent guy.
But this post is a load of bollocks no matter what you think of Gou. Most definitely ill-conceived.

Plenty of similar stories about her have been going around for a while, it's fairly obvious at this stage that she's not a nice person. I didn't know the stuff about the plague raves and the £100,000 bung though.

Your man comes across as bit of a whingeing gimp as well. "I'm trembling and I want to vomit as I type this on my Samsung phone" – oh, grow some balls ffs.

And there's absolutely no reason he couldn't just bitch to his mates rather than do it on such a public platform (not that I didn't read the whole thing avidly).

Yes, there's no money shot there really, is there. Btw that "lifestyle magazine" comment of yours upthread puts a finger on why I can't really get into her music either, but I couldn't really articulate it properly.

Didn't she go out with Jackmaster for a while?

no one’s allowed to simply be catty these days

Plague raves tho??

Someone on IG told him that maybe this would have been better resolved privately and he responded by comparing her to Trump which shows how the past few years has given everyone massive brain worms

Your man comes across as bit of a whingeing gimp as well. "I'm trembling and I want to vomit as I type this on my Samsung phone" – oh, grow some balls ffs.

― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Tuesday, December 8, 2020 5:23 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

speaking of horrible shit said by someone that reflects very poorly on them...

lol was going to say. balls do make you tough iirc

also "gimp" is basically "retard"

So Daniel Wang is not a whingeing poor man's Photoshop?

the best music is 'lifestyle music'

https://i.imgflip.com/4pkqbh.jpg

the best music is 'lifestyle music'

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40)

But not 'lifestyle magazine music'.

Is that anything like 'clothing boutique changing room music'?

daniel wang is a legend, weird coincidence but i finally got the 4LP rush hour set a couple weeks ago (bought the cd version when it came out but hadn't listened to it for years) and pretty much all of it still sounds super fresh

can't really think of any other producer / dj who's contributed as much to the rehabilitation and reintegration of actual disco / italo into dance music (as opposed to just jacking hooks to make banging filter house tracks)

metro area maybe but they were years behind him, faze action i suppose kicked it off w/ "in the trees" but imo their overall body of work is much less impressive

peggy gou is a fine dj with average skills (which in the cdj era doesn't mean a whole lot) and slightly better than average music taste, she has some pretty good early productions (i reach for her rekids EPs a lot though i like the galcher remix more than any of the originals) and a lot of new ones that i find pretty boring, and like most other "top tier" techno / house DJs in the 2010s her popularity relative to other DJs (and the speed with which she burst onto the scene) doesn't seem in line to me with much else other than being very photogenic

everyone has meltdowns on social media sometimes, famous ppl more than average, famous musicians much more than average and DJs probably more than anybody else because they've been cooped up unable to work for 9 months now, so while this is obviously not the best use of his time i'm cutting danny some slack here

Isn't this kind of alleged narcissistic toxicity pretty common in the DJ business to begin with? What is to be gained by posting this publicly? Any catharsis acquired doing this is its own form of toxic narcissism imho.

However, I do think she's a bit of a flavor of the month type, so if this rant is largely true, seems like she's going to burn enough bridges her talent won't be able to overcome in the long term.

yes, nothing, agree, agree

DW has been posting these Gou rants to his personal FB for a couple of years now. I'm not sure why he felt the need to take it into public realms.

PG is such a huge brand that this will have about as much impact on her career as a fly trying to take down an elephant.

I'm not sure why the so called underground of dance music gets upset by all this kind of (alleged) behaviour. I feel they should expect nothing from mainstream dance culture, ignore it and come to the realisation it is a separate world based entirely on being as famous / popular as possible no matter what that might take. Also, the sooner the "underground" stops aspiring to embrace the tropes of mainstream dance culture the better. So-called undergrounds are much, much better off when they devote less energy to trying to make the mainstream change and stop perceiving the mainstream as some sort of mirror image.

^^ otm

man the two times he brings up mental illness in his very misguided post (first, deriving it from her appearance, then deriving it from her tendency to center herself when writing about recently-deceased legends (don't care to confirm if this is true or not in the first place)), it is totally fucking offensive, that is all i wanna say

No idea why I read that FB post, but it sounds like a case of ESH (Everyone Sucks Here).

wang is getting dogpiled on twitter (obviously) and and as much as i like him i had to admit i laughed at this

why does Daniel Wang's house look like he robbed the local ethnological museum? pic.twitter.com/Pc7WwZGjKE

— dr. Mathys (@drmathys_) December 8, 2020

belongs as an addendum on that thread with the dj living space threads years ago in.. groove? some german magazine

German DJs and their living rooms

(although all the pictures have gone now)

Classic thread

I remember that thread very fondly lol

Sven Vath's scary carpet

lmao easily my best post of all time, only trick i missed was calling it spaghetti instead of minimal pasta

Sven Vath's scary carpet

my favourite Half Man Half Biscuit song!

lol

That's a great post, stirmonster. Couldn't agree more

I'm not sure why the so called underground of dance music gets upset by all this kind of (alleged) behaviour. I feel they should expect nothing from mainstream dance culture, ignore it and come to the realisation it is a separate world based entirely on being as famous / popular as possible no matter what that might take. Also, the sooner the "underground" stops aspiring to embrace the tropes of mainstream dance culture the better. So-called undergrounds are much, much better off when they devote less energy to trying to make the mainstream change and stop perceiving the mainstream as some sort of mirror image.

This 100 times, and it also applies in many other genres as well as media realms. Poetry and literature in particular would do well to dispense with the ridiculous idea that self-publishing, for example, is somehow "lesser than," which is one that has creeped into even the more strident, experimental realms of US poetry in recent years. It's disappointing and it sucks.

thoroughly otm x2

Old Wang Yells at Gou-dj.

Good piece here: https://annabelross.medium.com/the-gou-the-bad-and-the-ugly-what-the-peggy-gou-furore-says-about-electronic-musics-pandemic-of-c63094a9be3c

otm

the postscript makes the point better than the rest, imo

Agreed.

new song, getting saint etienne vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvUdtczXHPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1gmuWdZzkw

oh i love this one

It sounds like Let The Music Play.

letting the music play some more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F58Q3RHpGk
“I Go (Maurice Fulton Remix)”

there are also remixes by DJ Koze and Soulwax

This is pretty terrible

Starry Nights with Peggy Gou ✨ pic.twitter.com/hJWBSbOqqW

— Defected Records (@DefectedRecords) October 17, 2022

wonder what Daniel Wang, thinks of that.....

maybe the audience on the other side of the camera are having the time of their lives but i find it hard to imagine this was an enjoyble experience for her.

one thing about this kind of video clip troll stuff is that it brings out all the old miserable gits with their "clubs are all shit now" vibes. they are not. 99.9% of clubs are nothing like this.

I know this makes me sound like I'm 100 years old but gtfo with all those cell phones

i can't be bothered to have an opinion on this. however i will note that it is actually the closest she's gotten to the sort of thing daniel wang might be into. might be what hamildan was getting at ...

also i was pretty alarmed because at first it seemed that she was covered with bruises, like a mishandled potato. but on second thought i think those are how tattoos look through a sheer, filmy bodysuit that she's wearing under her outfit. it kinda looks like what an olympic ice dancer might wear!

I know this makes me sound like I'm 100 years old but gtfo with all those cell phones

― frogbs, Tuesday, October 18, 2022 7:09 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

agree tbh. i don't want to watch the video but just want to register here that i play the soulwax remix of "i go" all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssKWFlclNFg

it's a... pastiche?

Is that a 9Pm sample?

maybe just a reference

it's at least a reference

👍

i'm into it!

verse is a bit like sexyback in a french affair deadpan

the pitch bend brings a pavlovian joy

Didn't expect her to be having Top 5 chart hits!

it's basically ATB's "9pm (Til I Come)" for 2023 though. I'm actually more surprised at how long it's taken for these kind of festival headline acts to have chart success - I thought it would be Patrick Topping or Bicep who would have beat her to a massive crossover hit.

pretty good dj if you like techno, electro and house in the classicist tradition.

― the late great, Wednesday, January 24, 2018 4:14 PM (five years ago)

fixed

I like this Michael Wycoff-sampling remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYwlWw6EQOg

i don’t think this holds a candle to any of the singles on thw Jam City record, which also reprises this sound in certain ways.

daniel wang has to hold this L

I will say I wanted to dislike this at first because the best all-time ATB 9pm rip is Vitas' "Тело" ("Body") which you can see performed at the Kremlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GdRdRwhtMA

but I came around on it. it feels very 'A&R'd' to me but the end result works ... not sure I can put it on the level of itgahene but its a W

There's a video now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCz5y84dwuA

I’m lost with all the mentions of Daniel Wang in here. Have no idea who he is or what’s the connection to Peggy Gou. Care to enlighten me?

Oh wait I found an article… shrug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-CfqToO7o

absolutely did not see this collaboration coming

this has wound up the purists greatly and I love it for that - too bad it's just not very good

i'm just baffled at both the pairing and how mediocre it is

new album dropped!

And it's pretty good, nothing ground breaking or anything, but quite solid. I liked the 2nd half much more than the first. 1+1=11's lead is totally riffing on a melody I've heard before, though. Wonder if anyone else here is feeling similarly and can remember the song I'm thinking of.

1+1=11 is my fave and yes, totally agree but can't think what it is.

Love the melody, not so much the drums

there is also a version floating about (literally) with no drums.

Oh, neat!