what one artist do you like the most that ilm doesn't seem to rate at all

the Libertines could do no wrong by me, but get very little love here

elliott smith

i mean there's like less than a dozen of us

there has definitely been a thread like this

elliott smith gets love here! you have to have someone more bad & hated than that

and yeah there's a thread somewhere

That's a fair number, not loads but not none xpost

hmm... at the drive-in? another one where there's maybe a dozen of us. modest mouse?

oh, GIRLPOOL. treeship disappeared again so there's like 3 Girlpool fans left here.

Brad wins:

lmao i had no idea there was a frank turner thread on ilx

his last record was very good

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 13:08 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

U2, obviously!

I like a bunch of '90s Britpop albums that i think are pretty unloved, like Echobelly, Charlatans, Supergrass.

lots of other artists i love i just don't think enough people are aware of and i don't really try to talk about much on here (Helen Merrill is probably the most notable, at least for my taste.)

hitler

I kinda like Ellie Goulding, tho I don't fault UK ilxors for despising her

there are probably a dozen threads on here that I've bumped 3+ times in a row

Dan Deacon, but there's a few of us

lmao that's one of em

i've made the same elliott smith complaint, and was similarly rebuffed

I really liked the Kentucky-based band Sleeper Agent (their first album in particular), but looks like they’ve only been mentioned once in here, in passing. I rarely saw them noticed/reviewed in the music press, either – and they were on RCA. I just happened to see their first video when it was getting some airplay.

the hatred of frank turner makes total sense to me but is overstated, he's become p tolerable in the past few years

he's such an easy target regardless

Not an artist as such, but I like loads of commercial EDM and the kind of euphoric trancey variety of D&B and I don't think anyone else on here is into those at all.

My colleague who plays guitar in local pubs loves Frank Turner, I think I've never actually heard him.

I think I'm the only person here who buys/goes to shows by roots/-rockabilly guys like JD McPherson and Deke Dickerson.

Turrican

Does anyone else rate Jamiroquai other than gr80 and myself?

i like jamiroquai

the single they put out last year ruled

i like a lot of Jamiroquai's stuff

Frank Turnican

we've done this thread 50 times btw

i found one of these threads recently bc i was trying to see if anyone on ilx had ever mentioned the autumns

the angel pool by the autumns is an awesome record incidentally

Solex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixkkBQ_g2j0

like this def. feels like a reference point for u.s. girls "sororal feelings"

Naw, man, I'm sure there's a ton of tacit Solex fandom 'round these part.

s.

Mine is probably something widely-derided by the UK contingent and doesn't stir up much interest stateside. Corinne Bailey Rae, maybe? Zero 7?

Erasure

whoa i remember Solex

yes this is a redundant thread to be sure. probably shoulda bumped an old one but too lazy to find it

Hey old lunch - definite solex fandom here but it seems like the discussion has long ended. Her last album where she took a trip on a boat with fellow danish musicians was really cool and deserved more love

I've got a good one: Thievery Corporation. I'm not a fan per se but I like their brand of weak spliff exotic tourist Muzak.

A quick ILM archives search suggests the only possible TC fans on here are Moka, Hoos, and deej.

i've got Dubbed Out in DC and like it a lot, weak spliff exotic tourist Muzak is definitely a thing for me, i'm just not more of a sounds over who's making them listener i think

lmao i dig some thievery

i think if you spent some time in dc 2000-2010 it is hard not to have a soft spot for them

richest man in babylon is p good

Yeah I like Thievery.

I like Sounds From the Thievery Hi Fi a lot, their next album was pretty solid too (the one w/Lebanese Blonde.) Their DJ Kicks was pretty outstanding.

i can't think of anything. if i'm thinking of things that more than a few people here have heard. lots of stuff i love that is just unheard by a lot of people. truthdare doubledare is one of my very favorite albums of the 80s. never heard anyone here rave about it. bronski beat were pretty famous. i don't know how many people were pro-John Jøn though.

Cake are pretty universally derided here, right? I really like Fashion Nugget a lot, but I don't need anything else by them.

I think almost everyone mentioned here has a thread, or tons of threads (Erasure? Jamiroquai?).

But there is no Chumbawamba thread on ILM.

i dig some of that late 90s global underground bullshit like danny tenaglia's two mixes

I used to quite like chumbawamba's 'slap' LP, and that one song by cake

i really liked Slap! too. but i haven't heard it since it came out. the only one i ever bought.

yikes, i just reminded myself. i could never listen to that now. 1990 was a depressing year.

Sigur Ros, the biggest SR thread has a classic first and second response that still makes me giggle tho'.

Cats eyes get no love here - no thread, overshadowed by the other dudes band The Horrors

I was going to say Danny Wilson, at least one other poster likes them though: Danny Wilson

I will rep for Sigur Rós.

The band that I like a lot that has some outright hate posts directed at them is the Ocean Blue.

Cake are pretty universally derided here, right? I really like Fashion Nugget a lot, but I don't need anything else by them.

I started a Cake thread in 2011. Don't really listen to them much anymore, but they were the most important band in the world to me when I was a teenager.

I tend to a very lonely thread on the Dutch band Nits, whom I love unreservedly.

xp, that's great, frogbs! I will join your fan club.

some bad answers itt

oh yes, erasure, absolutely derided on ilm

i dig some of that late 90s global underground bullshit like danny tenaglia's two mixes

― marcos, Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:09 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jeez i owned about half a dozen GU mixes. and like three sasha & digweeds. and a solo digweed. And TRANCEPORT by OAKENFOLD.

lol xp

haha i had a lot of those too

Ryan Power. The great unheralded prog-pop genius of our time, and I don't think I've seen him mentioned here once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGxyV-2vx0o

a lot of my answers would be Japanese stuff that never crossed over

but one artist I really do like that no one here really cares about is Datarock

The entire Kerri Chandler thread is about 80 percent single-post revives by me.

Just had a quick spin through 'Slap!' - yeah, lots of it has not aged well at all. This one track though still sounds great, as long as you skip over the bits where they are singing / talking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S3enZlLLNM

are there any other Hue and Cry fans on ilm?

i have never stopped playing the first two Doves albums since they came out and sometimes i wonder if anyone still plays them at all. i mean people might have liked them when they came out but they feel kinda forgotten. i never get tired of them.

Some Cities is a fantastic record, scott. I will rep pretty hard for that one.

i never got into that one as much. i've never even heard their fourth album. those first two though...

Emmerdale / Life era Cardigans

I liked Kingdom of Rust okay. It had some really great highlights.

I'm the same, Scott, still rate those first two Doves albums highly and pretty much fell off with the third which I found quite bland. Recently, I listened to the fourth album to see if I'd missed anything and hadn't really. I like the production on those first two LP's a lot.

Revolution by Chumbawamba is an absolute classic anarcho-punk single but I'm not a big fan of their later stuff. I still have a soft spot for the Anarchy album but that's probably because I was 17 when it came out.

The Tea Party
Florence And The Machine
..James? I love James but don’t remember ever speaking of them here

idk there's like one florence thread but it's not empty

Also I adore Solex and I’m sure at least there are five of us

But I’m the same vein: Kevin Blechdom?

psyched to discover there are at least three threads on the rheostatics

are there any other Hue and Cry fans on ilm?

Hit us up on the Deep Cuts thread my dude.

Carnival Art

Mew are a competitor for my favourite extant rock band but I don't think more than three or four people care about them here.

are there any other Hue and Cry fans on ilm?

― soref, Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:32 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i enjoy the fine musical stylings of coatbridge's finest post-structuralist, scottish nationalist pop duo

The Fall of Troy

the high llamas

lots of duds in the c/d thread

lots of hate in various stereo lab threads

mostly indifference

for the record I fucking love Chumbawamba all the way up to the Un album and sporadically after that

Kenrick Lamar, Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, New Order. all great music that ILM hates for some reason.

meanwhile some of you have a real hard-on for ELP's Love Beach

High Llamas are great.

I like(d) that one Thievery Corp album, but ILM shamed me out of listening to them any further.

underoath

i say that bc i'm about to mention them in another thread

I listen to a lot of High Llamas

I can't stand High Llama or any Stereolab from Dots and Loops onward, mostly I guess because I love the Neu! rip-off stuff so much

a lot of the 50's era seems, I don't know, taken for granted?
There are 4-5 threads on the Everly Brothers, but rarely are these top page.
maybe there isn't much new to say, but I'm still blown away every time I listen to them or Little Richard or Buddy Holly etc

High Llamas seemed pretentious to me. There's a word ILM hates

Give me American Analog Set for 'lab ripoffs. Or were they ripping off Galaxy 500

Co-sign on doves and early cardigans

Omg I love American Analog Set. I was tempted to say Vetiver...I have a thing for good but not necessarily important bands (see also: Guadalcanal Diary, Mobius Band, Mendoza Line)

i love early cardigans (and tbh all phases of cardigans)

life is such a great record

Steve Wariner

a lot of the 50's era seems, I don't know, taken for granted?
There are 4-5 threads on the Everly Brothers, but rarely are these top page.
maybe there isn't much new to say, but I'm still blown away every time I listen to them or Little Richard or Buddy Holly etc

I'm not sure if most ppl (including/especially myself) really have an adequate vocabulary for talking about '50s music, without it turning into just a recitation of facts, historical notes, etc. There's something sui generis about that era which makes it distinct from most of the rest of rock/pop/etc. I could be totally wrong.

Like - I love Bo Diddley, but I'm not I've ever tried to talk/write about his music, or would know what to say. I'm sure there are others who are much better at it than me.

(As in – ppl who are actually good at talking about music. LOL.)

i always feel like ppl should be talking about little richard way more than they do. his classic original stuff feels so revolutionary and subversive and incredible every time i hear it, like it never feels even remotely dated to me. but i think the only time i see him talked about is, like, when ppl do those "100 moments that changed rock" lists. maybe it is just hard to talk about what makes those records so great.

Haven't seen much praise for BT on here, especially for his more recent stuff, but he's still making great music. You just have to be selective about what you listen to

Considering his name is two letters and his latest album is called _ maybe he’s just hard to search for

You’re right though. He’s a goober but he’s got crazy talent. I thought that Opus album he did a couple years ago was hilariously overblown. I loved it.

Oh I love Bighead Todd. IT'S BITTERSWEET! MORE SWEET THAN BITTER, BITTER THAN SWEET!

xp

I still rate the first Gay Dad album pretty highly. I doubt they have many other fans on here.

How about Kim Wilde? I'm sure that people rate some of her singles (especially Kids In America), but her first three albums are new wave/pop masterpieces that don't get mentioned a lot. Her first album in particular is incredible. I like it more than Parallel Lines and Eat To The Beat.

I will check out those Kim Wilde records. Kids in America is obv a pop masterpiece of the highest order, was just listening to it yesterday.

fyi she has a new song about an iPhone game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV0mfKdk6iU

I keep meaning to check out Kim's new album. Kandy Krush is ok I guess, the chorus is significantly more enjoyable than the verse. There's much better on the first few albums. Whenever I made CDs or playlists for friends, I would always put on a song or two. You'll Never Be Song Wrong from her debut is my favourite. Sparks, Young Heroes, Falling Out, Chaos At The Airport, Just A Feeling, Wendy Sadd, Shoot To Disable and Tuning In Tuning On (which is basically a Magazine song) are all highlights. I'm really not sure why she's so underrated.

I discovered Solex through the 5 favorite albums thread here a couple of years ago (Low Kick and Hard Bop). Glad I did!

anybody here besides Stormy Davis ride for mid-late 70s Jeff Beck?

I thought I’d be throwing down the gauntlet by saying I’m a diehard Was (Not Was) fan but a cursory google search reveals a surprising amount of goodwill for them on here.
Maybe if I add on that there was one Frank Turner song I listened to religiously when I was younger (though even then it wasn’t like I was running out to find more from the guy)

I didn't know ILM was anti-Erasure! They seem like the most ILM-friendly thing imaginable, tbh

A quick search suggests that y'all are full of it w/r/t erasure and ilm

Glen Hansard.

Think ILM allegedly hating Kendrick Lamar or The Cardigans is a bit of a stretch to say the least.

Too many of these answers are unloved through obscurity rather than reputation

The Bluetones

I love Was (Not Was). Who doesn't like that??

The only genuinely vile thing mentioned in this thread is Frank Turner.

(Julian Casablancas and the) Voidz

A lot of Danish artists would probably fit here more through obscurity than reputation, as imago says. The two that springs to mind that I would be hard-pressed to defend, even if people began listening to them, are probably Kliché and Tiger Tunes. This meant so much to me fifteen years ago, probably hard to explain what a revelation it was in a Danish context:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpXeelIlVBs

anybody here besides Stormy Davis ride for mid-late 70s Jeff Beck?

I love Blow by Blow. I might be alone in even liking some 21st century Jeff Beck, though.

Kim Wilde's debut is indeed wonderful!

i don't know who frank turner is but i guess its good to know to keep my distance if i ever encounter him.

here we go scott, enter at your peril Rockist Git Frank Turner and the horror of the live version of "I Still Believe"

Most of the names that spring to mind suffer from obscurity rather than ill-repute (basically what imago said).

In other words, a list of stuff ILM loathes would come in handy. Seriously, what are the most hated bands/musicians on this board? Are there any?

depends on the era of ilx.

curmudgeon is the king of this: Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year

my version of this is probably dire straits/mark knopfler

depends on the era of ilx.

Fair point. Early ILX seemed more vocal about its dislikes, but I'm ultimately more curious about 2010s ILX.

Feel like this more of a "post your guilty pleasure" response but I'm a fan of both EMF (mostly just Schubert Dip) and Ned's Atomic Dustin (at least that first record, and the last, not so much the middling middle one)

i always laugh a little when people try and tell me that EARLY emf was great and nothing like their unbelievable stuff. i don't know why i think its funny. just thought of early-EMF is funny. like there are discrete eras of emf.

i mean i guess if it sounded like rough trade era scritti politti or something.

The artist who gets the most hate on ILM has to be Megan Trainor surely.

I thought 'No' was pretty good, though would have been better with another singer probably.

not enough people hate the smashing pumpkins here. that much i know.

I don't really have an opinion on their other albums tbh. I kinda just moved onto weirder music after that, but maintained a connection to that album (which I listened to on my walkman for 18 hours straight on a trip to sweden)

This obit for the EMF bassist is def funny, esp:

Apart from his basslines, Foley was known for his party trick of putting what some claimed was a grapefruit, and others a lime, under his foreskin, and for partying. He was no stranger to drugs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1380899/Zac-Foley.html

EMF that is

Even Dennis Potter never imagined a "character" like Zac Foley!

I haven't played my copy of Schubert Dip in 20 + years, and now I don't think I'll ever be able to put it on again and not be reduced to gales of laughter. xxp

Ppl here hate Megan Trainor? I wouldn’t choose to actively listen to her songs, but I’ve never heard one I didn’t like.

She is a mainstay of the worst music threads.

I rate Megan Trainor over Amy Winehouse, haha (R.I.P. and all that)

now that is more like it

Killing Joke, of course. KIDDING!!!!

Amy Winehouse at Bestival 2009 is absolutely one of the worst gigs I've ever been to. But obviously she was much better than that a couple of years earlier.

tbh if you attend Bestival you get what you deserve

true alex in nyc answer: belfegore

xp 2009 was the year it rained and they were completely unprepared for it. Two stages sank and you had to wade to get between the other ones. We still hilariously refer to it as "Worstival"

In other words, a list of stuff ILM loathes would come in handy. Seriously, what are the most hated bands/musicians on this board? Are there any?

any public expression of art-loathing, even the most necessary and self-evident, seems to arrive on the ears of the attending boobery as an invitation to "actually" back. collective loathing, by extension, is basically a job posting: rehabilitators wanted, there's probably a book in it. given this mechanism, strenuous trumpetings of aesthetic distaste become a kind of sisyphean make-work, suited only to incurable windbags (shush) and desperate masochists (granted).

happily, the ILM of the late 2010s seems to understand that studied indifference pays better long-term dividends.

i think "studied indifference" might actually be "i am so tired of talking about this shit on the internet" in some cases.

Great stuff in that Foley obit

Their raucous blend of pop, rap, rock and dance was brash, exciting and unpredictable. They had a knack for writing songs that lodged like catchphrases, as in the chorus: The things, you say/Your purple prose just gives you away/ The things you say/You're unbur-lee-vable.

Young, lively, fashionable and good-looking, EMF seemed almost too perfect, and when they first appeared, unfounded rumours spread that they had been manufactured by a sharp-eyed Svengali as a rebellious version of New Kids on the Block.

Wow there are only two James-related threads, both half-grown, I'm shocked

Ha, I started a poll comparing versions of "Laid" once.

Inspired by Jordan’s revive - Melody’s echo
Chamber

Frank Zappa, though the needle swings drunkenly between like and dislike here.

I still consider myself a Zappa fan, although there are many caveats attached.

I'm going to suggest Southern Culture on the Skids, whose ilm thread hasn't been bumped since 2005. I listen to them regularly, and I'm even roadtripping to see them next month for my birthday.

Zappa seems like a real "love him or hate him" artist? (and maybe the same person will oscillate btw. those poles at different times.)

Re: Deke Dickersen, Southern Culture on the Skids

I haven't bumped this stuff much since 2005 myself, but it's still beloved. Garage rock motoriks along, with nary a development from the rockabilly side of the sound. I expect it will come eventually, but I miss it. Dex Romweber from Flat Duo Jets continues to do his thing, sometimes with great results. Flat Duo Jets and Rev Horton Heat's 90s records remain all time favorites for me.

yeah anything garage rock-related that comes from the more revival era as opposed to the original era is not really heavily discussed or beloved around here. i think probably the most liked is stuff that's Oblivians related, or White Stripes and that sort of thing (though they definitely got away from being a strict garage band pretty early.)

Emily Wells

there are probably tons of blues people who don't have threads or who have threads with 10 or less posts.

been offline for a few days, so here is a catch up :

I still rate the first Gay Dad album pretty highly. I doubt they have many other fans on here.

umm hello.
pretty sure i have been vocal re my love.
i even have the second album.
both are bloody brilliant glam/pop albums.

U2, obviously!

not obviously.

danny wilson

only have their debut on cassette so not heard it in over 20 years, but at the time, i thought it was just wonderful.
their gig i saw with The Christians was rather special.

but one artist I really do like that no one here really cares about is Datarock

only ever got their debut due to label/band inaction, but damn, its a cracking album.
fills the need for a second CLOR album basically.

...doves ...
all albums by this band still make my heart swell.
after years of not getting them, i saw them live and all became clear.

my all too obvious entry into this club : BRMC.
no matter how generic/mono-groove they are, they still hit the spot for me and me alone.

Lonely Obsessions, Lost Causes... stuff you like and no one else does.

indeed.

and still stand alone re grand mal.

"and i still .. "

there probably isn't a single soul that rates The Mirror on ILM. i'm pretty sure its my favorite Spooky Tooth album. Mike Patto's last stab at greatness. Way better than the Boxer albums he went on to make. Mick Jones sounding awesome before making the young girls cry with Foreigner. And Gary Wright on fire with all the goodness of his solo albums on display but with a big booming band behind him. I mean The Dream Weaver was only a year later.

call me crazy...

ok, i have dug around and realised the all too obvious answer from me : louis xiv
both albums were absolutely hated by the world/ILM hivemind,
yet i quietly listened to them both far too many times that was good for me, and still do.

don't think there's anything on ILM about Francisco Aubele

Threads in general have less chance of becoming freakouts after you had to register to post. That random element is what launched a couple of the bigger musician/fan smackdown grease fires.

I think I win this. I mean, my fandom has waned massively, but I’ll probably buy the new Embrace record if I see it for a fiver. I wrote the sleevenotes for their b-sided compilation ffs. I still rep for their second and sixth records. And a bunch of songs spread across the others.

I wrote the sleevenotes for their b-sided compilation ffs.

got it.
still listen to it.

"there are probably tons of blues people who don't have threads or who have threads with 10 or less posts"

Skip James and Bukka White for starters!

U2, obviously!

not obviously.

I forgot i do have a few enthusiastic fellow travelers on here

grr! where are these twats so I can FP them. joking of course Omar!

i watched the following u2 vids on youtube over the weekend

mysterious ways (music video)
bad (live aid)
running to stand still (rattle and hum)

https://media.giphy.com/media/63877z0BCNR6/giphy.gif

Sia seems mostly derided here

I've thought about this, and the answer is probably The Wildhearts or something

joe bonnamassa

no just kidding

i used to be a _huge_ frank zappa fan, like i had over 100 bootleg concert tapes of his. honestly i still like a lot of his music but his persona has not aged particularly well. you know, he died.

THE MARS VOLTA

I'm with you on TMV! Though I've never really cared for most of Amputechture or anything they did after The Bedlam...

I thought of TMV but quite a few people like them

One of my most favourite artists ever is Joseph Arthur. I think he's a true genius and adore everything he's done, which is quite a lot.
I don't think he's disliked or anything, he's just hardly ever mentioned.

I'm also very fond of some britpop bands from the '90s that may not be the biggest hits around here:
Shed Seven (who were my favourite band when I was in high school, I still love 'em)
Cast
Kula Shaker

As for a band who I think get mostly very negative feedback on here, I dare to name Mumford & Sons. While I wouldn't say that I'm a big fan, I certainly enjoy their records a lot.

i'm FPing you, but i want to be honest about it

90% of the stuff in the UK charts seems to have no fans at all on here, not even in the pop thread. I don't even like most of it.

New Entries into the UK top 10 in 2018

I'm sure at any time pre-2005 or so this would not have been the case.

erasure

Fishmans!!!

I love Fishmans sooo much

yea they're wildly popular on RYM so I was surprised to find they basically have gone unmentioned here

Noodle Vague, can I ask why?

Joseph Arthur's a good response to this thread's title, if 'doesn't rate' is taken in the sense that someone simply isn't mentioned much. The guy has only a couple of thread titles to his name.

I think it's relatively hard to find people really loving the other artists I mentioned, or am I wrong? If your response is to any of those, aren't you proving my point?

skrewdriver

I stumbled across Fishmans a while back in a Rolling Stone Japan albums list I think? and immediately fell in love. then about a year later they had a sudden burst of popularity on RYM which was very nice to see if unexpected. RYM seems to like Long Season and 98.12.28 the most but I think Uchuu Nippon Setagaya is their real masterpiece, as well as Yurameki in the Air. I had thought about making a thread here a few times but figured it probably wouldn't get much attention

fishmans cache on rym is due to /mu/ iirc

the only good thing it's ever been responsible for then

lol i feel the same way

Yeah I wondered what exactly happened there. Long Season has over 5000 ratings but like 98% of those have come in the last five years. Even for RYM that's pretty unusual.

All the stuff you mentioned is great...though I also have a soft spot for King Master George. So many great tunes on that one. Dunno about the rest of the early stuff though...its kind of sleepy

the early stuff is ok but Orange is where they really hit their stride imo, from it onwards everything they did was great. the reworked live versions of early tracks on 98.12.28 are much better than the studio versions

"skrewdriver"

you joke, but there are definitely fans of all skrewed up on here! i love that album. if they had disappeared forever in a cloud of smoke after the back with a bang 12-inch we would all be skrewdriver fans.

back with a bang 12-inch still one of my favorite SOUNDING 12-inch singles of all time. so huge. and ironic given what that idiot would end up sounding like. i finally sold my copy of the first album and that single and my united skins comp to a nice guy i know who DJs northern soul and ska. just didn't feel like having them anymore. i got them from another friend of mine who was a boston skin and felt the need to purge his youthful obsessions.

i do love oi! probably not a ton of oi! threads on ilm.

if i were made of money, i would totally start a punk 12-inch label. just massively loud heavy vinyl 45 rpm 12-inches of punk classics. for all the DJs out there.

mainlly for Mumford and Kula Shaker tbh valentijn. soz, it's not personal

ok, i have dug around and realised the all too obvious answer from me : louis xiv

I like Doves a lot iirc there are some enthusiastic threads on ilm about them

Ryan Adams? Pearl Jam?

lots of Pearl Jam stans on ILM iirc (myself included.)

I think there's people who will rep for Ryan Adams in Whiskeytown and his early solo albums (I'm one).

where oh where is the love for beady eye?

too many to mention

cosign mars volta, at least deloused

Zappa's way too spotty catalogue wise and his later material sticks out like a sore thumb in more PC times and hasn't aged well cuz it's stupid af

but classic for

Freak Out - Weasels Ripped My Flesh

and if i'm feeling stupid - overnite sensation

i love hot rats. its the only album that i really like. if he had made more instrumental albums in the late-60s and early 70s i'd probably own some of his records.

I'm with you on TMV! Though I've never really cared for most of Amputechture or anything they did after The Bedlam...

― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, April 6, 2018 5:37 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought of TMV but quite a few people like them

― imago, Friday, April 6, 2018 5:39 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another case where there's like 5 of us. tremulant ep thru amputechture = classic, bedlam is good but flawed, everything else = dud

GREEN DAY

hey scott, large parts of uncle meat/lumpy gravy are instrumental, tho not in the same vein as Hot Rats obviously, which rips

i do remember liking uncle meat for its short weird instrumental tracks.

waka/jawaka & the grand wazoo are p much instrumental and super nutso skitzo fuzionoid action

i just picked up Burnt Weeny Sandwich at a Goodwill, it's pretty enjoyable (to someone who doesn't really rate Zappa much at all.)

Was just about to post about those, ums!

i found one of these threads recently bc i was trying to see if anyone on ilx had ever mentioned the autumns
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:56 PM

the angel pool by the autumns is an awesome record incidentally
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:57 PM

One of my favorite albums, I'm sure I mentioned it somewhere. Need to listen to it again soon. Dreampop classic.

I want to try Dream Theatre someday because I think there were no fans here.

You might want to Americanise their name first

One of my most favourite artists ever is Joseph Arthur. I think he's a true genius and adore everything he's done, which is quite a lot.

i only know his 'the the vs merz' styled debut, 'big city secrets' : but its a bloody wonderful album.
not followed anything else since as i was under the impression that sonically things became a lot less interesting.
happy to be proved wrong.

I loved those two Doves albums and remember the 3rd album being good.

I loved those two Doves albums and remember the 3rd album being good.

it was.

Zappa's way too spotty catalogue wise and his later material sticks out like a sore thumb in more PC times and hasn't aged well cuz it's stupid af

pretty much. Zappa's a great artist when you're 16, because his sneering attitude towards everything appeals to teens and you've got the patience to see how all 70+ albums link together. His stuff veers all over the map quality-wise but I've never quite been bored by a Zappa album. even Thing-Fish is entertaining in a "what the fuck" kind of way.

I like several Duncan Sheik songs and follow him on Twitter, wouldn't call myself a FAN but he seems to be roundly ignored/disliked in all circles except certain boardrooms

i love hot rats. its the only album that i really like. if he had made more instrumental albums in the late-60s and early 70s i'd probably own some of his records.

― scott seward, Friday, April 6, 2018 9:38 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same here.

all this doves talk!

elbow's first three albums >>> doves' first three imo

that's as much as i'll say

any other fans of late-60s Steve Miller?

i could never get into elbow. when they first showed up someone told me they were kinda like talk talk but i think they just reminded me of peter gabriel.

doves were just so beautiful. and i loved the big sound and big drums. my kinda atmospheric rock.

"any other fans of late-60s Steve Miller?"

hell yeah. that's his best stuff.

i love the first 6 steve miller band records and they came out in a three year period! which is crazy. but people were early bloomers in the old days. no way in hell anyone could do that now.

I like several Duncan Sheik songs and follow him on Twitter, wouldn't call myself a FAN but he seems to be roundly ignored/disliked in all circles except certain boardrooms

― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, April 6, 2018 11:43 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i like him a lot. i had a weird obsession with his album daylight bc “on a high” was constantly on the radio when i lived in edmonton and then when i got back to the states i checked it out from the library and kinda fell in love with every song, and idk if that’s bc it’s inherently great or whatever or bc of how much i ended up connecting it to the relationship i moved to canada for and which totally fell apart a few weeks after i arrived

who here listens to latter-day lloyd cole. i don't. i think he actually lives around here somewhere.

last record i enjoyed was Mainstream and you were all in diapers when that came out.

I only know sailor out of the early Steve Miller albums, but I also like fly like an eagle and that ridic one w/ macho city on it

who here listens to latter-day lloyd cole. i don't. i think he actually lives around here somewhere.

I do! I think he's still making great music. He lives in Easthampton. Next time I visit your store we can go stalking.

Good post frogbs. I find Zappa’s anti censorship court case videos to be pretty engaging and eat the music definitely gave a whole picture of who Zappa was. Most fascinating was his early avant garde 60s talk show appearance where he uses bicycles for noise generation. Even in this first snapshot of a young Zappa it was clear he decided to burden himself as a misunderstood genius who got laughs from the audience but in his mind it was all business- serious stuff. In every era it seems he strived to find new ways to piss audiences off but in the end of his career he tried to become varese but instead made cutesy avant-garde music. The worst kind

Lots of Doves love here, too - first two albums, anyway. The Cedar Room is all time.

Good cover of willows song by the doves

i do love oi! probably not a ton of oi! threads on ilm.

― scott seward

i love the story behind symarip

i love the first 6 steve miller band records and they came out in a three year period! which is crazy. but people were early bloomers in the old days. no way in hell anyone could do that now.

― scott seward

i love the b-side of his seventh! i think ilx got me into it. i can't remember though.

there's also a great king biscuit flower hour release where he jams for 12 minutes on "fly like an eagle" - this was like three years before he released it

even more than the sneering what gets me about zappa is the horrible _sound_ of his '80s stuff. when he tries to do reggae (which he did a _lot_ in the '80s) it's the shittiest reggae i have ever heard in my life. people tell me "drowning witch" is actually a brilliantly composed song but i can't tell because it sounds fucking monstrously sterile. and that was played by a live band! eventually he started moving on to the synclavier and committed all sorts of new timbral atrocities.

I have like seven Club 8 albums and they’re basically the meeting point between Good Humor-era Saint Etienne and Radio Dept, which seems to be ILM catnip, and yet it’s crickets around here every time I mention them.

tho I they fall definitely into the “obscure” rather than “despised” category, so maybe not relevant here.

I have like seven Club 8 albums and they’re basically the meeting point between Good Humor-era Saint Etienne and Radio Dept, which seems to be ILM catnip, and yet it’s crickets around here every time I mention them.

― omar little,

About 10 years ago I bought a couple of albums by them (Nouvelle and the self-titled) after someone compared them to Saint Etienne and early Cardigans. They didn't do a lot for me. Is there another album you'd recommend giving a go? I probably didn't try hard enough with them and I'd be happy to give them another go.

I kinda wish early Steve Miller Band would have gone even further psych space rock. The few tracks he does like that are killer.

I’d try with either Spring Came, Rain Fell or The Boy Who Couldn’t Stop Dreaming — both pretty great. Above the City is less twee and more moody Europop influenced. Also great!

I'm a big Doves fan too. I thought the first two albums were really good. These days Some Cities is the one I go back to the most. I was worried they'd put out a whole album of anthemic songs like Pounding, but there's some really weird stuff on there. I remember there being a feeling they were going to become huge with that fourth album (kind of like Elbow had broken through the previous year). Sadly, it wasn't a great album. There definitely weren't any obvious hits on it. At least there wasn't anything as tedious as One Day Like This. That song that killed my enthusiasm for Elbow instantly.

I’d try with either Spring Came, Rain Fell or The Boy Who Couldn’t Stop Dreaming — both pretty great. Above the City is less twee and more moody Europop influenced. Also great!

― omar little,

Cool. I'll check them out.

I'd forgotten about Club 8 but around the time my wife & I got together there was a song or album we used to listen to a lot. Can't remember what it was now unfortunately...

I have like seven Club 8 albums

― omar little, Saturday, April 7, 2018 1:41 AM

I misread that as S Club 7

The Letter People - Songs of the Letter People
Louis Jordan
Badly Drawn Boy
Coldplay (their first album is legit one of my favorite albums of all time. No joke!)

I had a look and I have a load of songs from Club 8's The Boy Who Couldn't Stop Dreaming and The People's Record albums in my mp3 library, so evidently I remembered about Club 8 about 8 years ago then forgot about them again.

I think it was Strangely Beautiful from 2003 that would've been what I was listening to with my wife, that was the year anyway and some of the song titles are familiar. I should download that again.

There's a fairly used Dire Straits thread here, but yeah them. Despite the horrific Les Boys, the 3rd and 4th albums are wondeful.

But nobody with lots of records really likes them.

I remember a friend picking up my Making Movies L.P. and saying "Why have you got... THIS?"

Field Music said they wanted to cover them but I don't that they ever did it.

Doll By Doll/Jackie Leven. I just searched and Marcello started a thread when he died but it got about six responses. Anyways, DBD were an amazing and cathartic live act and their albums stand up. Later I saw Leven solo once, he talked more than he played but was a brilliant raconteur so that was okay.

Zappa

Lol, how many people can post about him before he stops counting?

i really have tried with Doll By Doll. i remember trying again after byron coley told me he really liked those records and he's a weirdo so i gave it a shot but i think the vocals weren't for me.

i still listen to doctors of madness a lot. and deaf school. because nobody buys the beautiful copies of their records in my store so i can listen to them whenever i want. but there are probably fans of those guys here.

i still like city boy too. there are probably less city boy fans here.

deaf school even put out an album last year! that i did not hear.

Lol, how many people can post about him before he stops counting?

Three part

Doctors Of Madness! Cherry Red put out a 3cd complete works set last year, fantastic stuff.

(I like a lot of Zappa tbc, just not sure he still counts for this thread.)

(No he shouldn’t count, he is plenty of fans of all stripes on this borad)

Does anybody on this gd board listen to Louis Philippe besides a few long-departed posters who posted about him fifteen-plus years ago

gaz coombes

I seem to remember one band I didn’t mind until the IlX anti-hype machine got into full gear and painted them as the anti-Big & Rich, so much so that I stopped listening and never really went back.

And that band was... The Kings of Leon.
*ducks*

i can't say i've listened to big & rich in quite some time. i thought that album was funny though.

Me neither, though I never really got much out of it back then. Chewing Gum I haven’t listened to in ages either, although I seem to recall enjoying it the first go round.

Trying to remember another band I first got into when xhuxk wrote about them in the Voice (but think he preferred their earlier incarnation) that got a lot of scorn around here. The Soundtrack Of Our Lives.

Ha, I group him with the Dead and Doors in an Axis of Dweezil for which I finally found the following three past strategy of first and foremost ignoring, unless I happen to feel particularly zingy or, on the other side I feel like magnanimously embracing my fellows and saying “you know I do happen to like that one song “The Golden Watermelon Devotion for Easter L.A. Woman”
― Rudy’s Mood For Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs)

as i've listened to more music i find myself liking doors knockoff tunes more than i like the doors

this is probably a gateway to actually liking the doors

i used to loathe the dead but tyler converted me

I like that one Doors knockoff band from Michigan called The Stooges, but was never compelled to dig deeper.

I like tyler but have never felt any more than a passing desire to delve into The Dead, which has usually be rebuffed by some wack rhythm sectioning.

Really, it might just still be a coastal predilection, I got those VU space shuttles in my veins and never got over it.

gaz coombes

has a broad and devoted following on this board and you know it

Sage Francis

The first band that comes to mind is the Sugargliders. Such a great indie pop band from Melbourne. I rate them about as much as the Field Mice which probably have quite some ILM fans.

just remembered this thread: Albums With A Cult Following -- You and Only You

I remember the War on Drugs getting a few basic insults in one of the top 77 albums threads. Love them, as do some few others on ILM admittedly.

I like that one Doors knockoff band from Michigan called The Stooges, but was never compelled to dig deeper.

― Rudy’s Mood For Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs)

the mono single edit of "down on the street" where they overdubbed some keyboards to try and make it sound more like the doors is great

!

i am still that cult of one...

This Is The Thread Where I Tell The World How Much I Love *Karen Alexander* And Her Album *Voyager*.

That was one of the first things posted on Mutant Sounds I think

I co-sign Scott S. on post-Somerville Bronski Beat. "Hit That Perfect Beat" is fantastically good. And to my mind, Doves' "Catch the Sun" was the best rock song of the Noughties.

The Smashing Pumpkins

Re: Joseph Arthur

i only know his 'the the vs merz' styled debut, 'big city secrets' : but its a bloody wonderful album.
not followed anything else since as i was under the impression that sonically things became a lot less interesting.
happy to be proved wrong.
― mark e

Big City Secrets does have a sound of its own, mostly thanks to the production, and I often wondered if this is perhaps mostly attributed to Real World/people other than Joseph Arthur himself. He performs several songs from that album live every now and then, most live versions sound quite different from the album versions.
I love that debut too, but you might be disappointed if you're looking for a similar sound in his later work.
That's not to say that he got less interesting sonically, as he's experimented a lot and he's always done a lot with layered loops. This is especially a treat live, when he gets his music together with enough loops so he can swap his guitar for a paintbrush and will paint while singing.

For a very versatile, interesting and in my opinion totally amazing record, I'd recommend 'Redemption City'. (It was released on vinyl and digital format only, but especially the digital album should still be easy to get via his webstore.)

I can't find mention of Citizens' Utilities anywhere. Lost and Foundered is a pretty great Pavement-y record from the mid 90s. I can't even find 'Roadkill' on YouTube. It's on Spotify, though: https://open.spotify.com/track/32Xm63Mpdr7JyfwLbDctaa?si=uYwh3fpcQ9O4StbSOjR6vg

Lenola

Anyone?

people like them. even i say nice things about them somewhere on ilm. listened to the swerving corpse a bunch last year. i wasn't really listening to them in the 90s so much.

Most of the Lenola talk here looks to be at least 13 years old or so. Good to know there's still fans out there. They really hold up!

this is easily one of my top ten or top twenty favorite rock albums of the '90s (non-metal division) and i have never met anyone who liked it as much as me. i've played my crappy CD copy year in and year out since 1991. i'm sure there are people who like it, but i've never heard anyone talk about it in any rave review critical way. maybe there was an issue of Mojo where they gave it its due. i think its a work of art as an album experience.

https://img.discogs.com/ypMP17SyWYAVFb2uYA5AM6KFdWU=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1244875-1355143325-2669.jpeg.jpg

you need to listen to it loud on a good stereo system though. not on a computer/spotify/etc. the CD will do.the CD sounds fantastic.

Thee Hypnotics are on their reunion tour at the moment actually.

I like the early Lenola singles a lot. Got one of the later albums which is OK but not as into it.

That Hypnotics record is one I’ve never wearied of, and along the same lines, Gallon Drunk. Loud rock with Elmer Bernstein/Mingus horn charts pushing it over the top is the best sound. The Saints’ Eternally Yours, too.

the casket girls and their debut in particular have rarely been mentioned here

ainur

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2886

I really liked the Kentucky-based band Sleeper Agent (their first album in particular), but looks like they’ve only been mentioned once in here, in passing.

revisiting this, and daaaamn... still slaps

this band was like anthemic mall-emo Royal Trux, or something. I know there are ILM posters who would dig this sh1t... check out their first album, Celebrasion, in particular. every song (except maybe track 9) is awesome. "Proper Taste" was my JAM!!

"Far and Wide" is like... whaaat... best closing track ever

I think fgti and myself are the only Tierra Whack obsessives here

i like tierra whack! probs not an obsessive mind!

Some fey UK indie combo from 30+ years ago, in all probability. LOL. Though that's such a low-degree-of-difficulty move that I'll stop myself there.

jhene aiko

I rate her a lot, not sure how much i count as ilm

Ela Orleans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PwMIBOldXg

Telepath

https://telepathtelepath.bandcamp.com/album/--25

This album is really very great. I don't care how Belle & Sebastian-y they are or the fact that they shamelessly have the same name as the 60s band.

There are tracks in this link and this is also the only profile of them I've found, and it's their only LP (from 2005):

https://shop.matineerecordings.com/collections/the-young-tradition/products/young-tradition-northern-drive

all of my attempts to promote the somewhat popular (104k plays/month on spotify) australian melodic prog band caligula's horse has been a total failure, possibly because they are an australian melodic prog band

Probably lots I could name. Chastity Belt comes to mind.

Many, many things.

A search for "Trouble Funk" turns up only one thread, from 2004 and briefly revived in 2012. Was listening to Saturday Night Live From Washington DC earlier; it's killer. Two side-long jams.

Is there any kind of Go-go thread?

would love a trouble funk topic, or at least a potpourri go-go one.

Telepath

https://telepathtelepath.bandcamp.com/album/--25

― calstars, Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:46 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I love Telepath more than life itself, at least through late 2015. I'm of the [evidently popular] opinion that the quality of his work dropped off somewhat when he went sample-free. I've actually thought about starting a chronological track-by-track thread for Telepath/Virtual Dream Plaza if there were enough interest...

if human beings could live to be 200 I'd probably get into Telepath's stuff

Am I dreaming or isn’t there a massive dc go-go thread that was started by curmudgeon a long time ago?

xp lol yeah I feel like fully appreciating Telepath/slushwave in general requires a deliberate slowdown of one's biological rhythms

telepath rules

maybe My Morning Jacket? those first 3-4 records were some of my favorites of the early oughts and I think they hold up really well.

probably responsible for a lot of crap imitations in the intervening years though

the new D.C. Go-Go thread

_Telepath

https://telepathtelepath.bandcamp.com/album/--25🕸

― calstars, Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:46 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink_

I love Telepath more than life itself, at least through late 2015. I'm of the [evidently popular] opinion that the quality of his work dropped off somewhat when he went sample-free. I've actually thought about starting a chronological track-by-track thread for Telepath/Virtual Dream Plaza if there were enough interest...