ARTHUR - the magazine

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Sorry, I didn't want to make a silly joke cause I really really do LOVE this magazine.

Ronan, you should be a contributor. Aside from Ian S.'s Peaches article, there isn't much on dance music, I don't think.

Nice one.

(my aunt used to be mayor of Costa Mesa)

Come celebrate the happy, all-too-brief life of Arthur Magazine with free giveaways and a reading featuring Molly Frances, Oliver Hall, and Peter Relic.

Thursday, March 1, 7:30pm

Family Bookstore, 436 N. Fairfax Avenue (across the street from Canter's Deli), Los Angeles, 90036.
Arthur's "New Herbalist" columnist Molly Frances incited a revolution nationwide by informing readers of the true powers of almonds, sprigs of mint, and Lord Byron's secret potion (a.k.a. apple cider vinegar). Molly's eerily prescient horoscopes have been known to strike the melodic funny-bone of even the most determined non-believer. Tonight Molly will be giving astrological readings as well as tripling any double entendre at hand.

Oliver Hall penned Arthur's cover story on Kim Gordon and memorably profiled folk radicals Faun Fables. He is the statuesque guitarist with L.A.'s newest psych-rock sensation E.S.P.S., and is seldom seen without his trusty Patsy Cline t-shirt. Tonight Hall will be dispensing priceless aphorisms as well as deconstructing the pungent, multi-faceted phrase "no money, no honey."

Peter Relic eulogized Jam Master Jay and went on the road with the Black Keys and Sleater-Kinney for Arthur. Relic's profile of the Geto Boys, reprinted in Da Capo's Best American Music Writing 2006, was deemed by Seattle's The Stranger to be "easily one of the most surreal, violent, and ludicrous artists encounters ever documented." Tonight Relic will be reading from his storehouse of pantoums, an unjustly obscure Malaysian poetic form.

We look forward to seeing you there -- dressing in black not a requirement!

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here's an interview with jay from The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070716/mccarthy

picked up the new issue yesterday and was surprised to see NED RAGGETT vs. the SPARKS DISCOGRAPHY

Indeed so. (I'd mentioned it on a couple of Sparks threads here.)

i wonder if arthur will catch any fbi glances from the "modest proposal" piece re: a gw bush a55a55ination

I've still never seen this at Rough Trade in London :(

(and I miss this mag so much! In fact, I just re-wrote how I used to get it at Freakbeat Records and would run to a Coffee Bean to read it in the sun, but then I realized I already wrote that upthread!)

I've still never seen this at Rough Trade in London :(

Jay mentioned that a batch of issues should be in London soon -- don't know where, though.

Any thoughts on the new Low Life zine, or Z Gun? I've seen both but haven't heard much from others.

there seem to be many more issues floating around new york than there used to be, I can always find it really easily now

of arthur I mean, I don't know those others

omar - no agency visits yet.

Z Gun was a decent read. Think the 2nd one is out soon, if not already...

Z Gun's alright, even if half of it is just re-published reviews from the web.

Some of Z Gun is written in the tone of an angry asshole, which made it a little hard to get through. But they go deeper and more meta and interesting than Arthur or a lot of other stuff out about underground music (although focuses mainly on DIY). Also there is some content about old stuff (i.e. an article documenting some of the lost bands of the late-70s SanFran artpunk scene) which is very informative. Definitely more personal. So I guess I'm saying its a good, relevant effort, and worth looking through.

Jay mentioned that a batch of issues should be in London soon -- don't know where, though.

You can always download the PDF of it from http://arthurmag.com/

http://theguide.latimes.com/blogs/soundboard//2008/07/23/jay-babcock-talks-arthur-magazines-brooklyn-move-la-as-a-psychic-death-hole

ouch!

That interview was a tough read. I'm an eternal L.A. apologist (and former longtime resident of both cities), so I've got a huge prejudice, but I think he's kinda massively NOTM on a lot of those points. Either way, I hope he finds what he's looking for in NYC and the magazine stays afloat!

sorry, but this is funny:

"I’ve been [in Brooklyn] for weeks, and nobody noticed. I don’t mean to sound petulant, but I realized that a lot of people actually didn’t know I’d left, so I let Kevin Roderick [of L.A. Observed] know."

i would love to live in L.A. if i were rich. and had a driver. i've actually never been there, but i love it. or my idea of it. it's like america's haunted house. so much weirdness around every corner.

on the other hand, i have never once dreamed of living in brooklyn. (not that i have anything against brooklyn)

So the emergency fundraiser was moving money ;)

this is painful:

"It’s getting harder and harder for independent, autonomous thinkers to survive in this country. The whole system is rigged for you to fail. The country just keeps getting dumber and duller, and eventually we’re going to pay a price for it."

New York is the last stand for culture and the arts in America, the rest of it has devolved into a wasteland.

New York is the last stand for rich kids wearing retro Nikes.

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Can someone Blingee this please?

he does look pretty brooklyn in that picture. the difference being:

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i still want to move to ojai. but i keep reading articles about how everyone is moving there and its too expensive now. it keeps calling me though...

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the guru table is in the gardens at barndall park, lol

i used to write on those tables, and once i hooked up on one.

Uh

"New York is the last stand for rich kids wearing retro Nikes."

yep

So the emergency fundraiser was moving money ;)

I know yr jokin, but seriously that isn't true!

anyway LA is horrible and he'll be much happier in NY

i still want to move to ojai. but i keep reading articles about how everyone is moving there and its too expensive now. it keeps calling me though...

dude, it was too expensive twenty years ago. beautiful, though. california real estate always has a $800,000 surcharge if you want to live in an area with no meth addicts.

yes, with all the cultured people

So the emergency fundraiser was moving money ;)

I know yr jokin, but seriously that isn't true!

total joke!

"dude, it was too expensive twenty years ago"

rich ex-hippies, right? oh well. i'll probably have to settle for western mass. i can pretend it's cali. lots of rich ex-hippies there too, but still affordable places to live. (maria will never let me leave this island though...)

"Culture in L.A. is in a race to the bottom, and all the smart and creative people there are [involved in] new ways to do social networking or figure out what YouTube video is going to get the most views. That isn’t culture, it’s pure pandering."

Oh dude, wait till you settle in to NY ...

I haven't really read arthur. I like a few of the acts they cover, and the shows they curate here are pretty good from time to time, but I seriously cannot believe how you can be more than 8 years old and think that an entire city can be summed up by your thoughts.

New York is the last stand for culture and the arts in America

LOL

but I seriously cannot believe how you can be more than 8 years old and think that an entire city can be summed up by your thoughts.

haha maybe you should check out the "most racist city in America" thread on ILE... to be fair he has lived in LA his entire life

totally wish dude the best of luck tho

cannot wait for do's and don'ts

lolol

having lived in both cities i am laughing my ass off at mr babcock

I love new york, and maybe it's changed since I used to hang there, but generally speaking it always struck me as the capital of what-important-thing-are-you-doing-and-what-can-you-do-for-me.

plus it's been a while since anything "important" happened there, at least in a concentrated fashion. there are good bands in ny but not more than in any number of other cities.

cannot wait for do's and don'ts

*tears*

(really though, good luck Arthur!)

plus it's been a while since anything "important" happened there, at least in a concentrated fashion

strictly speaking I don't think "important" things happen anywhere anymore, thanks to the massive decentralization of media distribution methods

Pasadena's great. I gave up my car a year ago and don't miss it. Being without an auto in soCal isn't for everyone, though. When I want out to Santa Barbara or someplace, I just do a rental. Plus, I kind of like that "important" things don't happen in Pasadena, unless you count the Rose Parade and Rose Bowl.

Friends come over a lot and we grill for them. And people come from back east two or three times a year because they want to get out of the Pennsy funk.

SoCal often still looks great if you, say, live in Allentown or Bethlehem.

Why's this dude all butthurt? :(

SoCal often still looks great if you, say, live in Allentown or Bethlehem.

Aw, I love Los Angeles, but, c'mon, don't knock the Lehigh Valley! It's beautiful as well!

taking sides: LA vs LV

after driving through the Bladerunner-ish polluted disaster area hellhole that is the Port of Los Angeles a couple years ago its difficult for me to avoid the conclusion that anywhere in America is better than LA

Oh STFU

your brother's bitterness is more entertaining

after driving through the (insert dirty industrial section) of (insert every city in the world) etc

if you visit chicago please avoid the southern shore of lake michigan, you might start to hate on the rest of the city

shakey, no offense, but your brother thinking that ny is cheaper than la is stupidity x infinity. i won't get into the other bs because dude is entitled to his opinions, however narrowminded.

$20,000 wasted on the best pizza america has to offer

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after driving through the (insert dirty industrial section) of (insert every city in the world) etc

yeah yeah, I've been around. Some places are worse than others.

i have never enjoyed arthur magazine-- i think b/c it has consistently dealt with things that i think about/care about lots, but always in a way that i find very detrimental...it has always struck me as being too much like going back and reading old sixties underground newspapers/books or whatever, and realizing how clueless and naive ppl were about occult stuff/"eastern" spirituality/whatever flakey flavor of the week (apple cider vinegar, i'm talking to you!)...and also being struck by how unaware ppl were of the submerged aggression behind their "peace, let's all just do some bong hits and listen to this shitty music" sentiments.

it has always struck me as being too much like going back and reading old sixties underground newspapers/books

well it is done pretty explicitly in that tradition. if you don't like that tradition, hey what can you do.

also apple cider vinegar rocks sorry but its true

for someone who spent his entire life in l.a. your brother sure doesn't understand it at all. then he acts like a spurned lover because the brentwood types didn't acknowledge him. i guess the respect he received from "poor artists" wasn't enough? i mean he says it's about money but it sounds like it's more about him not getting props from the right people. that rant = "every failed screenwriter ever"

well it is done pretty explicitly in that tradition. if you don't like that tradition, hey what can you do.

i guess i probably don't like that tradition, even though, goodness knows i am obsessed with the sixties and "the underground" in america...but in any case, that doesn't excuse arthur from espousing naive viewpoints about stuff (and i dunno, maybe i am complaining more about the opinions of the artists interviewed within its pages, as opposed to some overall editorial approach)

i should maybe add that i am speaking from the viewpoint of disaffected dude who felt alienated by both vice magazine culture and arthur magazine/"freak folk" culture of this decade, if i may set both publications up as some weird oppositional thing of sorts

i tried the ACV thing but i think i like kombucha better

if i may set both publications up as some weird oppositional thing of sorts

I think that's probably legit. personally I find Vice deeply alienating/irritating/funny when its making snarky fashion jokes but its rather obvious where my loyalties lie (even if I don't particularly care for Devendra or Joanna Newsom)

i was just in LA for E3 and anyway we were riding on a bus to the activision press conference and we drove by a store front in downtown that had "No Age Weirdo Rippers" painted above it what's up with that? it looked like it had been painted that way for awhile.

that's the smell

oh okay! damn i shoulda tried to go back there and see what was going down.

yeah, i like the "do's and don'ts" in VICE (i even bought the book!)

i'm indifferent to banhart's/newsom's music (admittedly, i guess i haven't listened enough to their stuff to give them a fair shake. oh well. life is short.)

i'm sure your brother is a great person. i just am disappointed by the magazine (and what i see as being some subculture that it tried to deliver ((to))).

but, thinking back, i remember enjoying reading an interview w/joanna newsom... and i am interested in erik davis' work, so...

the day they interview dale pendell, all will be right in my world.

but, yeah, jay took the steps to publish a magazine and distribute it for free, which is insanely admirable, and i am just some dude typing out shit here, so...

"after driving through the Bladerunner-ish polluted disaster area hellhole that is the Port of Los Angeles a couple years ago its difficult for me to avoid the conclusion that anywhere in America is better than LA"

Dude, I grew up outside Detroit. I live in LA now. If you think that the Port is the worst place in America, you have no idea what a significant chunk of the US has to offer in terms of Superfund hellholes.

the ports may be ugly but they're a very important job center for the region, so that trumps aesthetics in my mind. and they are taking steps to improve the air quality.

And I'm still annoyed that I subscribed right before this $20k PLZ! meltdown bullshit happened. Who knows when the fuck I'll actually get that next issue, but maybe "getting shit out on time" can be one of those NYC attributes that Jay picks up.

http://www.cleanairactionplan.org/ (xpost)

hmm hadn't heard about that - pretty encouraging

(btw next issue is at the printer now)

I had to move away from SoCal myself (grew up in L.A., spend college years plus in O.C.), so I understand Jay's frustration wrt the arts or what not. L.A. in particular is one grey arts-and-entertainment factory, which ironically makes it hard to have a centralized arts culture built from scraps.

But NYC is probably the most similar city to L.A. in that arts-and-entertainment factory analogy. Does Jay have to live in the belly of the beast? If so, why does he whine about it so much if that's what drives him? If not, why doesn't he move to Austin or Minneapolis or Portland instead?

dude if yr in the publishng business you go where the publishers are

also advertising $$$

i'm not an LA expert.

as far as where i'd go to hang out on vacation, NYC every time.

but honestly there's something about the messiness and sprawl and weirdness and randomness of LA that seems to me like it would be more conducive to a *real* arts/music scene evolving...lots of abandoned places and space, where NYC is too cramped and media microscope, it seems like it's hard for stuff to breath, literally and figuratively.

art needs a place to hide

but what do i know i'm just thinking out loud

I will say this. It's easy to start your own thing in L.A. and NYC moreso than other cities, mainly because things get built up and shut down in both cities all the goddamn time. I got sick of it and moved to Seattle, one of many reasons being that Seattle (as one example) has had some consistent assemblence of arts support. It may not be perfect, but it's been alive and not-so-fucked-with-as-much for decades. Also, I got sick of having to build from scratch over and over again -- like booking bands at Koo's Cafe in Santa Ana only to have the police bust it the year after I moved. Greater NYC and greater LA fucking eat people. I don't want to move to cities where I try to fucking duck and hide all the time.

As for the "dude if yr in the publishng business you go where the publishers are" comment, don't get me started on the cynicism and arguments I have with this concept of LA and NYC being the only places to make this happen.

things happen in portland, oregon (in the pacific northwest) and austin, texas (in the south, and in the same state as houston!) too

atlanta is pretty good from what i hear too

the twin cities have stuff. like places to look at art nobody likes and hear dudes making a godawful racket.

arthur, i think we have a winner

'Because I'm an Ohioan -- Cincinnati -- who was born in Louisville, I wanted to find out what was happening downriver along the Ohio. Overall, I discovered an intriguing, funky scene and a good-humored, pop-culture-savvy populace . . . plus more.'

twin cities have always sounded really awesome to me. too bad it's so goddam cold there.

Whoa, boy do I sound like a doofus. Talk about quotes being taken way way waaaaaay out of context, and all the nuances and buts and commas and em dashes and so on being dropped. Ah well, good for some chuckles for everybody.

Obviously there's plenty of awesome people in L.A. and plenty of awful stuff in NYC. But NYC is a more hospitable environment for publishing. So, we're gonna try and make a go of it here. 's all!

Best of luck! (seriously)

I think I support much of what you are interested in accomplishing, based on reading yr magazine, but...yr approach leaves a lot to be desired, from my perspective.

commas and em dashes

These only would have made your vitriol sound more premeditated!

Good to hear it straight from the horse's mouth. Good luck with it all. And goddamnit, send some more issues to London! (Fine, I'll subscribe).

I still love L.A., though, and miss it like a son of a bitch!

The dude asked me if Hollywood/Westside people bailed out Arthur when we needed $20k and I said No, those people are all busy blogging on Huffington Post, the people that helped us in L.A. were poor artists and other folks [see the benefit at the Silent Movie Theatre last year]. But the way it reads makes it sound like I feel ENTITLED to SERIOUS CHECKS from All My Celebrities. It's weird. I told the dude about the bummer that is Sam Zell... the bummer that is Rick Caruso... the overdevelopment that is going on in L.A., which adds to the traffic and smog and stress and misery and crowded schools, and ... he didn't include it. On and on. Ah well. Good for some chuckles, maybe even some laughs -- I mean check out the LATimes comment board -- how dare I leave the city of SILVERSUN PICKUPS???? Oy vey.

yeah, but every-fucking-place sucks in its own way, obv.

dell - There's a special flavor of suck to L.A. -- but yeah, it can be an okay place to live if, like Seward said, you have a chauffeur!!! In the end, the people that seem to dig L.A. the most -- or cheerlead for it hardest -- are the ones who can afford to insulate themselves from its faults. These are the people who send their kids to private schools, only get their health care at Cedars-Sinai or UCLA, live up in the Hills beyond the shit and the crime and the ever-dumber billboards and the random shootings and the shitty stucco-and-plastic architecture and miles-long shopping malls that all the rest of us have to live amongst. What can I say? Not my cup o tea. So it goes! I gave the place 20 years, that's enough.

Also dell -- L.A. police are A BREED APART.

well, that's not L.A. but about 90% of California... Blame Prop 13.

Sean Bell RIP

Yeah Prop 13 killed California that's for sure. Mackro OTM.

The cops in L.A. shoot, harass and intimidate a lot more people than the NYPD do, QN. Cops in L.A. are on steroids, they're trained military-style, and they've got helicopters! Lookit up. Awesome.

i agree with a lot of arthur dude's points actually, mostly about liveability and this sense of dread i tend to have about spending more than a few more years in this city, even though i have a ton of friends here and a decent pad and a steady gig.

you want publishing, come move to quebec. quebecor yo.

...but yeah, it can be an okay place to live if, like Seward said, you have a chauffeur!!

haha, yeah, i feel like i would do that in a second!

In the end, the people that seem to dig L.A. the most -- or cheerlead for it hardest -- are the ones who can afford to insulate themselves from its faults.

meh, there are countless other cities that one could make the same complaint about, though, right? most definitely, including nyc/brooklyn.

What can I say? Not my cup o tea. So it goes! I gave the place 20 years, that's enough.

awesome. i respect yr life experience. best of luck to you!!

also, try to interview dale pendell!! and karl jansen!! seriously!

it't the usual thing; if i've invested enough energy in questioning yr publication's output or whatever, then i obv. respect where you're cominng from. but i still am suspect of scenic motives

you want publishing, come move to quebec. quebecor yo

what d'ya mean by that? just out of curiosity...b/c i have a friend who is moving to quebec next month

insulate themselves from its faults

jay--i'm sorry you had such an awful experience in los anegles. where did you live during your twenty years here? were the people the same kind of dumb and shallow everywhere? why did you wait so long to escape? good luck in brooklyn--i'm sure you'll be a much better fit there.

but i still am suspect of scenic motives

that was couched horribly

sorry

how dare I leave the city of SILVERSUN PICKUPS???? Oy vey.

sorry I went to lunch and missed this lolololol

It's not that I'm moving to NYC for a "scene" -- I never said that anywhere!!! Ay yi yi. There's a lot more art, music, dance and yes thinkers and readers and who knows maybe even some new partners and advertisers and OMG really great street league hoops that is a lot more fun to watch than the NBA bazillionaires. Geez louise. We're just doing our thing. Sorry I was so poorly quoted everybody! But that's what's going on at the LATimes! They've gone from 1200 reporters to 700. It's gonna be the Weekly Reader with Page 3 girls by October at the rate Zell is going.

i just don't understand ppl who move to the east coast from the west coast

when i lived in philly, every time someone would say they were moving to california we would say: "great, have fun! we'll miss you! *see you in six months*."

that last part we would say under our breath or in our heads. and then when we saw that person again in six months we would ask them how their trip was!

Cops in L.A. are on steroids, they're trained military-style, and they've got helicopters! Lookit up. Awesome.

Jay, you're moving to the city of that thing called "911." You don't think they have helicopters and a bulked-up police force trained in military-style surveillance and crowd control?

I'm sorry but the disparity between the have and the have-nots is no diff in NYC than it is in any other metropolis.

i know. the times isn't great and it's getting worse. public radio stinks. the fascists shut down your no age show. nobody noticed that you'd left. traffic is bad during most times of day.

what neighborhoods did you live in?

that last part we would say under our breath or in our heads. and then when we saw that person again in six months we would ask them how their trip was!

lolz my friends from Philly out here have nothing but horror stories whenever they come back from a visit - mostly about how crack and crime are even worse than they were in the 80s, etc

I've got a $500/mo room in a shared, non-A/Ced apartment in an awesomely Puerto Rican-heavy area of S'Side W'burg and IT IS LOUD ALL THE TIME AND IT IS AWESOME. I can get anywhere I need to go for $2. And there is stuff going on every night. Feels a lot safer than L.A. cuz there's always people on the street. Total classic Jane Jacobs scene. I'm digging it.

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Philly is one rough town.

i dont gte why this dude doesn't live in san francisco i thought that's where all the hippies were

More like a Midwestern city, but with old east coast buildings!

I could give a shit whether anybody knew I'd left. That's another one of those lame Answers he made up a question for. He asked when I was moving to NY and I said Dude I'm already here. Arthur wasn't an "L.A. thing" -- if it was, people would've known we were gone.

The No Age/LA River thing is part of a larger issue having to do with access to nature in general and to the River in particular. Check my "Nature Trumps" blog -- it wasn't just the No Age show they've been going after (and btw, it wasn't cops, it was rangers), they've been ticketing fishermen and duckfeeders. And removing sanctioned graffiti murals. The level of bullshit is high.

re: COPS AND THEIR COPTERS. I've heard one here in the last 5 weeks. In Atwater Village in L.A. we had them almost every night. It's a style of policing they do in L.A. because of the sprawl. Read up on it. It's not that other PDs don't have copters, it's that in LA they have SO MANY and they use them all the time. They're also trained military-style. There's BOOKS on this stuff, dude.

i miss philly. after i left it became the big hot town for ex-nyc hepcats or something. or that's what i read in the paper. and jess from the gilmore girls opened up a cool publishing house/gallery. i love jess.

i just assumed this magazine was from SF

dude SF is fucking expeeeeeeeensive!

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NY is fucking expensive

Yes, you're the only one who reads. You are the enlightened hippie living in America's last stand for culture and art, and everyone else in America is a know-nothing. Dork.

i moved from d.c. to sf. sf was great.

except it only rained for a few months out of the year. that sort of broke me.

i moved from sf to philly.

philly sucks. except it rains sometimes.

Sorry, that's how all of us living in the wasteland talk.

what d'ya mean by that? just out of curiosity...b/c i have a friend who is moving to quebec next month

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quebecor, who i work for, pretty much prints everything in existence

"There's BOOKS on this stuff, dude."

and every movie about L.A.! i'm kinda scared of L.A. just from scary movies. but intrigued too.

also my hood is pretty jane jacobsed out to the max.

Jane Jacobs wouldn't recognize the NYC of 2008, Jay. I mean, I know you're all stoked about living amongst the Puerto Ricans. But...

Right, Arthur's all about the hippies -- that's why we put CONFIRMED HIPPIES Sparks and Diamanda Galas on the cover of the last two issues. Okay.

QN - Come to my neighborhood. It has everything she wrote about. Is this neighborhood indicative of ALL OF NYC? Nope. But there are a lot of hoods like this. Stuff happens here that could never in a million years happen in L.A., and I'm enjoying it.

ILM - conspiring to make sure you don't enjoy what ever you're enjoying at the moment

Jay, before we get too bitchy. I know what you're talking about, and it's a super cool thing. My grandparents are from Puerto Rico and Italy and my family grew up in NYC: Little Italy and the Bronx.

But for me, poor people are treated no better there than anywhere else, and those are my family's roots. That's all I'm saying. I lived in Astoria for many years. In my opinion, it's one of NYC's best hoods. But I also know that places like Co-OP City exist, and that they're residents (more like prisoners) have a vasty diff experience of NY.

Cops in L.A. are on steroids, they're trained military-style, and they've got helicopters! Lookit up. Awesome.

Of many dumb things said here, this is a keeper. You're not going to find even a medium-sized city in America that doesn't have quasi-military elements (nee jackbooted thugs) in its police force. Welcome to the 21st century.

everyone should move to MVI and hang out with me and bob lee

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we freeeeeeeeky

BTW, I apologize for my previous comments.

the no-ac thing will get really old in a couple weeks

"Of many dumb things said here"<--this is a keeper.

ILM - conspiring to make sure you don't enjoy what ever you're enjoying at the moment

Shakey otm

we have local color here too! sadly, not that many puerto ricans. but tons of brazilians! they are good too! and real live indians. not to mention our lovely portugese population.

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anyone who doesn't think LA cops are on some next level evil shit should compare their history to that of any other major metropolitan law enforcement agency (with the exception of New Orleans, who are probably the worst hands down) - Rampart scandal, Rodney King, etc etc

i should work for the tourist board for real

cops here suck always stealing yer stash

they use helicopters here to find our weed gardens the bastards

Philly's record not that great either, what with that whole "let's firebomb an entire city block" thing

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philly cops suck for real

cops kinda suck

it's kinda their job to suck

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um, do you really need a list of incredibly fucked up things nypd has done in the same time period. just because ny cops don't look like hardcore military dudes like la cops doesn't mean they're less likely to shove a plunger handle up your rectum. la cops are pretty scary looking, i'll give you that.

how are the cops in portland oregon and austin texas

Amadou Diallo v. Rodney King

Austin cop let me off with a warning for doing 80 in a 65 last month, so they're cool

LA's Smug problem has magically disappeared, it's amazing!

um, do you really need a list of incredibly fucked up things nypd has done in the same time period.

I wasn't talking about NY, I was responding to Milo's apparent equation of LA cops with cops in any other "medium-sized city in America". which I'm sorry is just not historically accurate.

anyone who doesn't think LA cops are on some next level evil shit should compare their history to that of any other major metropolitan law enforcement agency (with the exception of New Orleans, who are probably the worst hands down) - Rampart scandal, Rodney King, etc etc

I don't think it's really that diff, however. I mean, yeah, L.A. has had some high profile stuff go down. But really, dig in the history of East St. Louis or Cleveland or Detroit or Buffalo or Providence or even Boston and you'll find all kinds of heinous stuff. In fact, Boston, in my opinion, has always exhibited a level of racism that's pretty intense.

Hell, what about this guy?

http://img.mediaspanonline.com/6651/2172141.gif

how about the canadian mounted police?

The cop vs. cop argument is kind of like the Most Racist City in America - guess what, the entire country is fucked up. Deal with it.

I wasn't talking about NY, I was responding to Milo's apparent equation of LA cops with cops in any other "medium-sized city in America". which I'm sorry is just not historically accurate.

when i first came to l.a. via an internship program they brought in a couple lapd officers to give us the lowdown on safety and one was a totally chill laura harring looking cop and the other looked like bill romanowski. the latter advised us that jaywalkers in l.a. were lawbreakers and if you happened to run one of them over, "no big deal". he also said you should be careful about people pretending to be cops and when a girl asked him what he would do if he pulled her over and asked to see his i.d., he replied, "i'd take you out of the fucking car and put you facefirst on the pavement". then he sort of twitched and the other cop sort of shook her head.

*she asked to see his i.d

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Yeah, they've been beating up Mohawks for decades now.

Milo Z - Re LAPD. I don't have my copy of (of course) Mike Davis - CITY OF QUARTZ at hand (guess where it is...) but there's a good potted history of the LAPD in there. IIRC, the LAPD was flushed and rebooted wholesale after WWII in response to (um) rampant corruption. They trained a whole new force according to military principles, since those had just won the war and blah blah blah. The upshot is that cops in L.A. are trained not to be policemen so much as they are an occupying force... This affects the way they talk, the way they carry themselves, the kind of attitude they bring to bear on the population. They are to Establish and Secure Authority at all times. This plays out all the time in pretty scary ways. And yes, it's been replicated since then in other police 'cultures' around the US. Whatever. No point in getting in a 'my cops are worse than your cops' argument. Just sayin.

most cops i've met are pretty cool

i'm white btw

Amadou Diallo v. Rodney King

and even here I would point out that NYers relations w/cops were not so bad that they BURNED DOWN THEIR CITY in response

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They can't. It's brick.

roflz

sf cops are great! fajita-gate, etc.

all cops suck sorta

but jesus christ, there are better battles to be fought if you wanna get into some hc polarization shit

c'mon, now.

ah fajita-gate. good times.

yeah, i dunno at this point

i would like to live somewhere next to the ocean

weirdly enough, sf was the only place that i have lived post-hs and been on the receiving end of homophobic comments (i ain't even gay, so go figure)

again, i would like to live somewhere next to the ocean

everyone seems to have a litany of complaints regarding where they live and where they've lived in the past. god knows i do.

and again, jay has made a rad magazine out of nothing, which is more than i can say for myself!

pls interview dale pendell, etc...

I love SF, but it is expensive. I now live in the South/Appalachia, which I adore as much as any place I've ever lived. So go figure!

oh, i forgot to add that i would alternatively like to live near mountains! california is an easy target, b/c there is mountains/ocean in close proximity

but i would be cool being in mountains, i think

plus southern ppl are friendly!! no, but, it's true!

nah I love SF, I have no real complaints. I mean yeah I hate the cops here but I would probably hate the cops anywhere. It's my way.

More laffs on the LATimes "comments' -- HOW DARE I SPEAK ILL OF THE MIGHTY KCRW, LISTENED TO FROM COAST TO COAST????

i understand fully. i visited the bay area last month and it was the highlight of my yr thusfar.

when i lived there, it was whole 'nother story entirely-- i was totally miserable for the bulk of it, on a personal level. but, if yr gonna be miserable, you might as well be miserable among beautiful surroundings. e.g., go freak yr neurosis out in hawaii...or alaska...or the himalayas

In the end, the people that seem to dig L.A. the most -- or cheerlead for it hardest -- are the ones who can afford to insulate themselves from its faults. These are the people who send their kids to private schools, only get their health care at Cedars-Sinai or UCLA, live up in the Hills beyond the shit and the crime and the ever-dumber billboards and the random shootings and the shitty stucco-and-plastic architecture and miles-long shopping malls that all the rest of us have to live amongst.

None of this applies to me in the LEAST and I love L.A. and cheerlead hard. I spent multiple years living at Vermont and 129th St.; on Sycamore Ave. in Hollywood; and Downtown.

But I realized we live in two way different universes when you were psyched about the lack of A.C. in your pad!

I fear you may see that NYC cops aren't that much more awesome than L.A. ones, though, on the South side of Williamsburg.

The times article's comments

Weird. I'm not typing that out again. Oh well.

the LA Times is, for my money, the best written paper in America.

lolololo

http://gawker.com/5028824/la-give-brooklyn-your-tired-your-poor-your-weary

http://blogs.laweekly.com/play/la-to-arthur-magazine-can-we-h/

But I'm sure he'll find the New Times' syndicated content that fills The Village Voice to be far superior to the New Times' syndicated content that fills the L.A. Weekly.

second place in less than 10 minutes where I've seen someone imply Jay is a coke-snorting trustfunder oh teh lolz

I think 99% of them are saying he's a smug douchebag, so for two people to stretch that a little further, really is to be expected.

^^^

B-b-b-but I didn't say those terrible things. Egads. Now I understand why some interviewees record their interviews...

don't worry jay, no press is bad press ;)

anyway lol @ comments section guy calling little joy a coke den, the dude just sits back there and chills and reads new yorker.

have you even read the new yorker dude

jay what do you think about the cover of the new yorker

i imagine that the la times guy must have had a bone to pick or wanted to create some "controversy", assuming the context of the comments is completely missing

no kidding

but still i really don't think l.a. is any worse than nyc except in terms of public transportation and lack of snow and constant presence of cobrasnake

Cobrasnake is never at El Cholo when I am eating mind blowing Green Corn Tamales and having unbelievable non-Mary Ann's margaritas

yeah i can't imagine a better place for food anywhere.

i find it very easy to avoid cobrasnake or anything cobrasnake-related.

but i'm also able to avoid dumb and shallow people and bad experiences with the lapd. i'm unusually blessed.

ay i just moved east from LA and while im not actually living in nyc im spending a lot of time there and even tho i have a lot of affection for LA i can totally understand this sentiment:

IT IS LOUD ALL THE TIME AND IT IS AWESOME. I can get anywhere I need to go for $2. And there is stuff going on every night. Feels a lot safer than L.A. cuz there's always people on the street. Total classic Jane Jacobs scene. I'm digging it.

ESPECIALLY "I can get anywhere I need to go for $2"

yo I'm jealous of that shit

plus the fucking cops made the taco truck near my work stay away from this area for a few days

For a while, I've been thinking that those two cities cater to different age demographics

How do you see it split?

yah jay's ny sentiments make a lot of sense to me, but then i've only visited ny. san francisco has a similar "omg, people are WALKING... on the STREET" feeling to it, but you know, i've only visited.

i'm pretty sick and tired of l.a., but i'm ready to grant that it has more to do with my neighborhood and state of mind than anything. in my (limited) experience, the easter you go (before the end of the san gabriel valley), the better it gets.

i meet so many douches here though. more than in salt lake city, utah! don't know what that says about me or means...

xp
I'd say LA maybe feels a bit empty when you hit early adulthood and becomes awesome again in your mid-30's?

OTM

or: it's a bad place to move after going to college in some shithole to try and meet people. i'm sure n.y. is just as bad or worse. i dunno

this might be a challops but people in l.a. get SO defensive when they're compared to people in ny. hence that 400+ reply in l.a. weekly to mr. babcock's screed. and responses i've heard in local crowds to ny bands here...

l.a. gets a weird bad rap

yeah, i would totally hate living in a city that hugs the ocean and is relatively affordable and has all kinds of commensurate cultural shit going on

Have you ever lived there?

?

what the hell is a challops?

"challenging opinion". the phrase was originated on glenn beck's television program in the late '00's

Have you ever lived there?

no, just visited. but i like it!

what don't you like about it??...assuming that you totally and completely hate it

What relatively bothers me in LA and what might make the Brooklyn grass so much greener is how hard it is to spontaneously hang out. Everything feels really atomised and for a city that prides itself on its laidback carefree attitude, a lot of things require planning I find.

A lot of that is related to the constant driving I guess

WELL WHY DON'T YOU GO ROLL UP AND SMOKE THE LATEST COPY OF ARTHUR, YOU SHIFTLESS HIPPIE? LET'S LET IT "ALL HANG OUT"! LET'S JUST GROOVE W/THE SPONTANEITY PROGRAMM!

I'd like to see if the reporter really 'fabricated' your obnoxious quotations. I don't buy it for a fucking second.

Arthur's response

fyi interview was not tape-recorded, journo was going from notes, and then the quotes got chopped up

but thanks for sharing

i didn't know jay was your brother. is he really your brother? wait, is your name actually shakey babcock?

lolz I wish

my name is actually Rusty Shackleford

hey, by the way, i keep forgetting to mention that i dug that album you sent me. that was you, right? yeah, very weird and cool. i was a little scared that it was gonna be some indie flaming lips kinda bummer trip, but no way it was decent!

oh but yes Jay and I are brothers. and Quitty from the Tight Bros/Nudity/a million other Olympia bands is our cousin. and Ev and Ryan from 12 Rods are also our cousins.

and now you know the family tree

I sent you a record? Great! even better that you dug it. I am not into bummer trips and the only good Flaming Lips is oooooooooold Flaming Lips

my brother looks like this.

http://a739.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/55/l_4e620128eb9062dbd19cb35ace2a9922.jpg

"quebecor, who i work for, pretty much prints everything in existence"

We used to print there, but now we've switched to Transcontinental, who are in Boucherville, Quebec. Because Quebec PRINTS EVERYTHING EVER. (One of the funny things is that some of our issues, we can't sell in Canada, but we can print 'em there).

and this:

http://a570.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_066f11729b0fa0ed6649f3492161ff51.jpg

my name is actually Rusty Shackleford

weird, that's my name, too!

i saw your ex-band play at cafe du nord circa 2001?

it was fun. there was a saxophone and stuff

you guys committed!

i don't ask for anything else

also, best flyer artwork ever!

aw thanks

why ain't Dan been posting lately, Scott?

I was gonna say - isn't that dan bunnybrains?!?

I wish everyone used their real names.

danny is busy on a top secret project that will blow the musikal underverse away. for real. and he is busy opening up a new store space in hudson.

dell - yup, dale pendall is on the list, fer shure.

tl;dr

the interview just reads like the usual thing where someone gets bored of living somewhere but makes up some b.s. grandiose reasons for why they're moving. i do this all the time re: richmond, va., except in that case all the grandiose reasons are true

n/a - yup, it does read that way, doesn't it?

kinda yeah

ny vs. la, sydney vs. melbourne, seattle vs. portland, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

i don't mean that to be rude at all -- hell, i was an arthur subscriber and adherent -- but the thing is that any city, any town, any lugar is at best a muttly mix of neutral charges, plus charges, and minus charges. and when people leave a place, any place, they often try to encapsulate, crystellize, codify their experience in that geographic/cultural/political/social landscape too glibly, reductively, authoritatively in a way they would not if they still lived there. seeking closure through final judgement. metropolitan post-partum.

contributing to the characterization of a departed city is, i am certain, a predominantly biographical act. if homages (any stripe -- encomium or excoriating) are read as treatise on their location, taken immediately as what they're written, they are sure to come off as grandiose. if they are taken as personal narratives of leaving proxied through places they are ostensibly about, they can offer a whole lot more.

remy - coke v pepsi, blahblah. totally agree.

oops meant mackro not remy

remy - yup

Has anyone on here with a subscription already received the latest issue (the one with Spiritualized)?

I'm still waiting on mine...

http://www.arthurmag.com/

01/09/2009
A NOTE ABOUT ARTHUR MAGAZINE'S FUTURE, FROM ITS EDITOR/PUBLISHER.
Hey gang--

I am done with self-publishing Arthur, which I've been doing since July, 2007. It's too much work for one person to edit, publish and manage a national magazine, month after month, year after year.

If/when a publishing partner appears, and so on, Arthur will return to print.

That could be in three days, three months or three years.

Or never, given how the internet plus leveraged capital has hollowed out almost all existing analog mass media in favor of stuff that, in almost all cases, is qualitatively worse for almost everybody.

Anyway, we're gonna hibernate the mag for the time being, and focus on the stuff that doesn't have as much financial risk or management burden. Thanks to the work of a lot of Arthur folks, the arthurmag internet presence will upgrade and expand greatly in the coming days. Also, two new cds and a dvd are being prepared, the book(s) are on the way, and so on.

We're staying busy, staying focused on what we can handle, and pushing homegrown counter-culture forward. We hope you can, too.

And if you need more Arthur mags right now...well, there's 31 back issues available in the store.

All love and R.I.P. Ron Asheton,

Jay Babcock
editor/publisher, Arthur Magazine
edi✧✧✧@arthur✧✧✧.c✧✧

Hmmn.

Open an Arthur Store on the Mendocino Coast, have a little club next door, and all will be good.

Eazy - Hahahaha! Indeed

Arthur Store is currently my house if anyone's wondering where their orders are

HAHA

I'm serious!

I know I'm just imagining the little club next to your house.

Hey Shakey, is the shop open?

Like, can you come by and rifle through the back issues? Not exactly. I might make a special exception in your case though...

otherwise you gotta order through the website like any other joe lunchpail

Damn. Sorry about the shitty state of publishing, Jay and Arthur. You will be missed. :(

note to business model: free is not money

Creeps: Eyeballs equals ads equals revenue. Etc.

I know, just goofin. I love the idea of a free magazine anyway, and love Arthur more. So thanks, Jay, for everything, especially for giving me a way to see Arik Roper on a semi reg basis. And for the two guys who'd drink beers and listen to racords.

Creeps - Ha! Cheers for all that. We'll see what happens. I'm getting some feelers.

back from the dead

Meaning this?

http://arthurmag.tumblr.com/

And almost ten years to the day this thread was started...

http://arthurmag.com/2012/11/15/arthur-returns-to-life-december-22-2012/

sweet! i don't know anything about the economics of putting something like this out, but doing away with the "free" model seems like a good idea? I mean, I'm certainly willing to pay $5 for it.

yaay :)

I'm certainly willing to pay $5 for it.

me too!

Great news

YES

tylerw - This business model will work for these times. The old model had a chance to succeed, but stuff happened, and I don't have the resources to try it again...and, also, I'm not sure it would work now, given what I know of the state of advertising budgets.

This is great.

AND -- in this new incarnation of Arthur, everyone who contributes to the magazine ACTUALLY GETS PAID and NOBODY GOES INTO $120K OF DEBT. Very grateful to our readers for making this new reality possible.

are you looking for contributors? because i could write a monthly column about neil young bootlegs.

this is great news!

my first thought today was wondering what arthur's coverage is gon be like in 2012 considering the underground has long since moved on from crunchy folk nu-weird off the gridism and high-art-aspirational hipster metal and is now just I HAVE A TUMBLR AND A KAOSS PAD ON NOM NOM GIVE ME ALL THE MOUNTAIN DEW MONEY

Whiney -

http://arthurmagdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/a29cover.jpg

More for Whiney -

http://arthurmagdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/a13cover.jpg

http://arthurmagdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/arthur5cover.jpg

One more for the Whinester -

http://arthurmagdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/a28coversml.jpg

Who should I touch base with to become a contributor, Jay?

this is the best news.

and $5 is a killer deal. i wouldnt even blink at $10.

now jay: any chance at another run of tuff wizard shirts?

I'd always meant to subscribe but it was free at the record store, so, uh. But now, problem solved, money sent.

I just wanted to let jay know that the essay about the AK-47 has stuck with me all these years.

awesome AWESOME news

Thanks ladies. Raymond, you can touch base with me. Alpine Static - I dunno. Sarahell - I know, right?

And Mike Dixn: Thx for the dough. Glad you had a store that carried Arthur in the old days — which one was it?

I admit I should say something more having posted that link and all. Got a couple of ideas kicking around...

fwiw fyi there is this: New York Times - Media Decoder

Also, something that wasn't mentioned in that initial announcement and didn't get picked up in the Times piece was this, and I can't emphasize it enough really: In this new incarnation of Arthur, everyone who contributes to the magazine actually gets paid. In the old days it was labor love and credit cards for everybody but the art directors (who worked way way way below market rate) and ad salespeople (who worked strictly commission — a hard way to be). This is made possible by the readers. And of course, it is made possible by the fact that Arthur existed previously... so the new reality of Arthur, like most new realities, is built on a combination of new sitch plus past blood, sweat and tears.

all the best with this, jay. fantastic news and the business model seems sound - ideal, in fact. i hope to see (and buy) it in the UK at some point.

jed - thank you, it took four years in the wilderness (3 of those kinda literally! haha) to get back to this place. I was able to avoid bankruptcy, that was one of the main things. Oy. So many people have been so generous.
As for getting the mag in the UK: I would advise pre-ordering it direct from us.

I sent you a message on FB, Jay

<i>Glad you had a store that carried Arthur in the old days — which one was it?<i>
Reckless Records and Laurie's Planet of Sound in Chicago. I'm pretty sure I picked up almost every issue - maybe not the first few, looking at your cover gallery, #3 might have been my first - at one of those places and passed them off along with the latest Roctobers to a trucker friend whenever he was in town.

Information for people who wish to contribute to Arthur's editorial content

Thanks

Mike Dixn: That's right, making mags for needy truckers since '02. Thanks for passing it along...

My new-Arthur wishlist:

As much Erik Davis as possible

Original comics content (by which I just mean comics done for the mag as opposed to coverage/reviews of comics)

Jon Lewis: You will like Arthur No. 33 very much on the second count—I think. First count, not so much... but Erik will be back later.

Cool x 2.

Actually, are you reviewing comics/graphic novels as well? I wanna make sure my publisher (who does Gabrielle Bell, James Romberger, me and others) has you on his comp list...

Hey there Jay, I subscribed right before you stopped printing and only ever received the Sparks and Galas issues. Any chance my subscription will be re-started?

Jon - Byron & Thurston review comics/graphic novels all the time.

Moodies - Check it out: http://arthurmag.com/info-for-old-subscribers/

cool, we'll use the submission-for-review info for Bull Tongue on that link you posted earlier.

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has arthur the magazine ever written about arthur the russell?
just a thought...

t**t - no. not sure there's a need at this point, given all the coverage elsewhere. tell me if there is...

Heya Jay, dropped a line via the submissions link the other day, dunno if you got it...

Ned - Nope... Weird! Hmm.

Ned - Thx for pointing this out. Some email was not being forwarded. Now it is. AWLLLLRITE!

man, this Arthur thing has been lacking

glad you're back

"Jay,

I wasn't an Arthur subscriber for a long period of time (issue 27 with Celebration was when I began), but it had a profound affect on my while it was in my life. Just wanted to say thanks upon thanks."

lol gmail search

Andrew - Too much!

Byron Coley & Thurston Moore just handed in their columnage for first new Arthur in 4 years. Psyched to get to publish these old dudes again.

Ha! Cool

Jay I will have a second pitch for you soon, the wheels are grinding

Jay, will the 'no ads except on back cover' thing be an ongoing standard? Is that one big ad or several smaller ones? Curious for my publisher.

Jon - Probably, yeah. Back coverS, actually, as there are two sections — in this issue, at least. Maybe in the next issue, there will be 3 sections, who knows. Ads are a real bitch to handle for a ton of reasons, and we protect ourselves by limiting them in this way. It's worked out really well for us. Your publisher can get in touch with us thru normal channels.

fwiw - http://arthurmagdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/arthur33cover.jpg?w=450&h=682

Dig it

lookin' good. psyched for the jack rose feature. three years since he passed away!

3 years to the day. Very spooky.

looks AMAZING

Oops - meant to add - here's some more details on contents and how to get a copy and so on, if you're interested - Arthur website

love that

rip jack rose

My copy came in the mail today. I haven't cracked it open yet, but the cover looks fantastic.

resurrected arthur is a thing of beauty!

Just got my copy yesterday

New issue is at the printer. 8 more color pages, more music coverage in this issue than last one.

http://arthurmagdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/a34coversml.jpg

After 20-plus years navigating strange, inspiring trips across myriad underground psychedelic terrains with a host of fellow free folk, righteous musician/head MATT VALENTINE (MV&EE, Tower Recordings, etc) finally spills all possible beans in an unprecedented, career-summarizing, ridiculously footnoted epic interview by BYRON COLEY. Plus: Deep archival photo finds from the MV vaults, a sidebar wander through some important MV listening experiences with your guide Dan Ireton, and a gorgeous cover painting by ARIK ROPER of MV & EE at peace in the cosmic wild. Delicious!

Also in this issue:

Psychedelic scholars Christian Ratsch and Claudia Muller-Ebeling lay down a rap about this planet’s AROMATIC APHRODISIACS, with art by Kira Mardikes…

Gabe Soria chats with author AUSTIN GROSSMAN (Soon I Will Be Invincible) about the basic weirdness of playing (and making) VIDEO GAMES, with art by Ron Rege, Jr….

LA Record’s Chris Ziegler encounters young Southern California psych-rock band FEEDING PEOPLE, with photography by Ward Robinson…

All-new full-color comics by Lale Westvind, Will Sweeney, Vanessa Davis and Jonny Negron…

A lengthy interview with the remarkable ecstatic cartographer DAVID CHAIM SMITH by Jay Babcock, with massive reproductions of his out-of-time artwork…

Stewart Voegtlin on what (or: who) made MELVINS’ 1992 beercrusher “Lysol” the most unlikely religious record ever built, with art by Stewart’s Chips N Beer mag compatriot Beaver…

Columns by the ever-provocative “Weedeater” Nance Klehm and The Center for Tactical Magic…

Byron Coley and Thurston Moore’s essential underground review column, Bull Tongue, now expanded to two giant pages…

http://adhoc.fm/post/arthur-magazine-calling-it-quits-again/

online mail-order Arthur Store will be open until March 2, 2014. At that point, all unsold backstock will be chucked on the compost heap or into the recycle bin.

Shakey Mo's decided not to store this junk any longer basically.

That's a real shame.

Shakey Mo's decided not to store this junk any longer basically.

now now. (ftr all Arthur material was moved long ago to a super-secret airtight underground bunker way out in the middle of the desert in Joshua Tree)

but yeah buy up that shit! posterity demands it

bummed, i was really enjoying the new arthurs, but i definitely understand that it was a labor of love for all involved.

just bought some stuff, I really needed that cassette comp with the Michael Hurley tune so thanks for the bump even if it's bad news

Thanks Tyler, yeah the energy for doing this proj has diminished for so many reasons — at least it wasn't financial this time! — but we'll see what happens in the future. Sleeve, thanks friend, your stuff is already in the mail.

http://adhoc.fm/post/arthur-magazine-calling-it-quits-again/

the fact that adhoc lives while arthur dies is completely fucked

Whiney - I would hesitate to draw any conclusions. Arthur's existence has always been precarious and contingent on so many things..

Jay am I correct that you are sold out of all the "new" issues other than the Hurley one? I would have sprung for those as well but didn't see them.

Sleeve - Yeah 33 (Rick Veitch/Jack Rose/etc issue) and 34 (Matt Valentine/David Chaim Smith/Feeding People/etc) are gone now. Sorry bout that...

Sleeve & others - I came across a few more copies of some issues that I thought were all gone, including the Brightblack/Godsmack/Derrick Jensen issue, and the Devendra/Joanna Newsom/Cocorosie issue...so those are all now available in the Store, til close date, which is this coming Sunday. But no 33 or 34, sorry.

Spoke too soon. Just found 7 more copies of 34 (MV issue).

LOL well OK then, guess I'd better head back to yer website

by the way I already got that package, thanks! loving the CD comp...

The fact that Rolling Stone lives while Arthur dies is even more fucked.

Farewell, Arthur.

Arthur Magazine archive finally complete

This took forever, but I am very glad to be able to write this morning that the entire run of Arthur magazine (2002-2008, 2012-13), which I co-founded and edited, is finally available online as single issue PDFs.

Pretty great!

Yay! No 3d glasses though

oh great, I think I learned about both ayahuasca and Pandit Pran Nath from a single (free!) ish of this.