Let's definitively decide which of the cuddly moptops had the best career outside of the Fab Four!
Some voting rules:- Ballots can contain up to 100 tracks- Points will be allotted per usual rules (no. 1 gets 100 pts, no. 100 gets 1 pt, etc.)- [b]I'm going to allow any non-Beatles track that features the appearance of at least Beatle.[b] This means collaborative things like the Traveling Wilburys, Yoko Ono tracks that John plays on, Nilsson's Pussycats, "Badge" by Cream, McCartney + randos collabs etc. are all eligible. - Ballots are due on FRIDAY, June 1st, 5pm PST. E-mail your ballots to audiobot at yahoo dotcom.
Let's do thishttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F78.media.tumblr.com%2F3b2bd462d1d8e4c57a8a62c6fd391fa0%2Ftumblr_nz7r43eyEb1qzy30io1_1280.jpg&f=1
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
lol html edit
I'm going to allow any non-Beatles track that features the appearance of at least Beatle.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:19 (seven years ago)
ONE Beatle
this is off to a great start...
Very cool poll. Just to clarify, it's any track that a single Beatle made an appearance on? So in theory my #1 could be David Bowie's Fame?
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
yes
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
what about Billy Preston songs sans any other Beatle?
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
the girl is mine ftw
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
Billy Preson was not a Beatle, so no
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
frog chorus ftw
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
A few years ago I made extra Beatles albums, about another 12 or so going up to the early 80s, compiled from solo work & would like to share them here. Anyone know how I could do that. Mediafire would take them down, Mixcloud would block in the USA and nobody trusts torrents now.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)
dropbox links
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)
Cool -- Tim Ellison and I have a new playground in which to continue our 15-year argument over why solo George ruled/sucked!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
yr welcome
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
think you know where I fall on that divide
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)
At this point isn't Paul going to win really easily?
― albvivertine, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:49 (seven years ago)
I think the idea that any Beatle besides Paul has a prayer of winning this poll on ILX is folly
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
I, for one, don't rate Paul's solo career nearly as highly as others, apparently
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
Guess we should just poll it all and find out.
― WilliamC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)
honestly I can see a scenario where Yoko actually tops the poll, people sure do love Walking on Thin Ice...
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)
All POLLS Must PassIt's Just ANOTHER POLL
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)
or a Beatles-hater submitting a top 10 that's all Kanye, David Bowie, Elton John, Yoko, Nilsson, Michael Jackson, and the Wilburys
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
Yoko's "Mind Train" will actually be really high on my ballot probably
― bunny slopes, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
The Ballot of John and Yoko and Paul and George and Ringo
― WilliamC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
^^^
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
love the 100-song ballot and the long voting period. once i'm through grading i will start hyping some lesser-loved tracks.
you really missed the boat by not calling this thread "Imagine All The Pre-POLLs"
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
POLL Those Years Ago
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:08 (seven years ago)
I'm just beginning to consider what to vote for and... finding it easier than I thought!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:09 (seven years ago)
awesome, can't wait, 100 tracks is daunting but exciting. Plastic Ono Band lock for best album right?
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
ah just tracks, no albums
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
I wasn't planning on bothering with side polls for albums, individuals, etc. Tracks should speak for themselves imo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
JL/POB wouldn't be my #1 in that imaginary albums poll.
― WilliamC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)
It wouldn't be mine, either.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)
me neither
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
it's easy if you try
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
surely this is a lock for #1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhRmOnoFBo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
What format do you want them in? I guess something like
1. We All Stand Together - Paul McCartney & The Frog Chorus
will be ok.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
never heard "Tandoori Chicken" before. wonder if it was the secret inspiration for "Cook of the House"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
Am I the only person who likes "Say, Say, Say" better than "The Girl Is Mine?" I honestly hope not.
― Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
I could pretty much take dark horse, plastic ono, all things must pass and call it a day
― Ross, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
Dark Horse is a fucking woeful record. One or two half-decent tracks ruined by George's vocals.
Am I the only person who likes "Say, Say, Say" better than "The Girl Is Mine?" I honestly hope not.― Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:45 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:45 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No, I too prefer 'Say Say Say' ... I'd take 'The Man' over 'The Girl Is Mine', too.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
I would prefer the format to be like this:
[Artist] - [Song title]
No numbers necessary as long as they're in order (number one at the top etc)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
gonna continue to rep for obscure George nuggets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3s4ncKCE2g
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVRmdrM0Mmg
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCVe4pNMLW0
I like 'I Live For You' a lot - also, I seem to remember Kula Shaker nicking the riff from 'Ski-ing' for one of their B-sides.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)
or a Beatles-hater submitting a top 10 that's all Kanye, David Bowie, Elton John, Yoko, Nilsson, Michael Jackson, and the Wilburysxp― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:01 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:01 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Let's not forget The Smokin' Mojo Filters and... Oasis!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:29 (seven years ago)
Live and Let POLL
― moresoupial (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
Thomas The Tank Engine theme tune hereby nominated
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:36 (seven years ago)
? does not feature any Beatles.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
sure Ringo was on the show, but he's not on the song iirc
Let Me POLL It
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
Let's not forget the time when Macca found himself "in the middle of a Nirvana reunion"
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:38 (seven years ago)
Just remembered Scouse Mouse, scratch TTTE.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:39 (seven years ago)
idrc Macca ever playing with Oasis?
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
yeah me neither
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
will be v interested to see what paul album rates highest here -- band on the run and tug of war were prob the critical faves back in the day, now i'd expect it to go to ram or maybe even mccartney II.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
nice
― WilliamC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
JL/POB is prob not my personal fav beatles solo album but it feels like a lock for top 3 at least
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)
voodoo chili - legit lolz at "Imagine all the Pre-POLLs"
― moresoupial (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
I will not be tallying votes for individual albums, that's some other poll
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
My bit about George.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
surprised there wasn't a button poll for that already
I guess I could do a side-poll for albums if people really want. I don't really care personally
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
ah! sorry should've read this more carefully.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)
There’s two good songs on dark horse is an insane opinion
― Ross, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:10 (seven years ago)
that's true, there's actually three good songs (Ding Dong, Dark Horse and It Is He)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
the mono version of "wonderwall music" is just so damn fantastic
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)
Extra Texture is worse if that's possible. At least DH has an anonymous mid '70s studio rock professionalism.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:15 (seven years ago)
I’m pretty sure Macca wins this over the length of his career : between « every night », « say say say » and stuff on Chaos, for instance, a lot of great work.Lennon’s and George’s initial output were stronger, though.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:28 (seven years ago)
the weird thing for me is that while I find plenty of Macca's stuff pleasant, I'm hard-pressed to consider what I think his greatest solo songs are. a lot of his hits seem slight or just stupid, and the ones that I consider very good don't really measure up to the more canonical hits from John and George's early runs. I mean, sure "Band on the Run" or "Live and Let Die" are good but ... they aren't *that* great.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
Macca is perfect for the old days of CD-Rs and CS-90s. You do what a pal did for me: stick 15 to 20 album tracks, B-sides, and obscurities. I was charmed.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)
yeah that's true, he's done so much and followed so many weird little detours, but with a baseline competency and inventiveness that you could just make an entirely decent alternate discography from any old collection of odds and ends
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:41 (seven years ago)
otoh I listen to something like Red Rose Speedway and as soon as its over I can't remember a thing about it
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
Yeah I agree. Like once they pass away : John had « Imagine », George « My Sweet Lord », even when the time comes, Ringo will have, I don’t know, like « Photograph », but Macca... his most famous track, nowadays, might be « Live &Let Die », which seems a bit below the level of such a legendary songwriter.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)
I sort of agree that most of the best solo McCartney tracks are slight and insubstantial and frivolous, but I don't think that's a bad thing, I like the way he embraced meandering aimlessness in his solo career, what else are you going to do after you've been in The Greatest Band Of All Time
― soref, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:44 (seven years ago)
Yeah, of course.That said I have always thought, in all fairness, that Macca’s « Imagine » should be « Let it Be ».Even Lennon said it was a solo track !
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:48 (seven years ago)
the canonical paul solo track is probably maybe i'm amazed, isn't it?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:49 (seven years ago)
maybe? otoh how many ilxors are really gonna go to bat for that smarmy pile (I prefer the Faces version!)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
do Twin Freaks versions count as separate tracks itp bcz ^
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
sure
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)
"Band on the Run" and "Jet" are probably competitive with "Live & Let Die" for famousness. "Maybe I'm Amazed" for belovedness.
Me, I just hope something from Tug of War gets some love. "Take it Away" perhaps.
― moresoupial (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
I loved this Taylor Parkes article about the low-key weirdness of so much of 70s McCartney':
Though they feature a great many pale burlesques of funk or blues or disco or doo-wop, these records occupy a unique space within pop — in some ways, they're barely recognisable as pop music at all. Except in the most superficial sense, they bear no relation to the work of McCartney's contemporaries, nor to anything that came before (or has come since). Not because they're personal — McCartney let little of himself into his work — nor because they push back boundaries, or break new ground (they do neither). They just seem to ignore most of pop's basic obligations. Few of these songs mean anything at all; they're rarely exciting in a purely visceral sense; they never tell a story, or attempt to blow your mind; they're seldom uplifting, or plaintive, or gross. They are utterly useless objects, which seem content simply to exist. This is their (very) peculiar charm.
http://thequietus.com/articles/01922-paul-mccartney-the-beatles-wings-the-best-of
― soref, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)
idrc Macca ever playing with Oasis?― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:44 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkyeah me neither― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:44 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:44 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:44 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That's because he didn't! I'm referring to Lennon's voice on 'I'm Outta Time', which counts because it features him!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)
wow that is v otm
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:58 (seven years ago)
I'm referring to Lennon's voice on 'I'm Outta Time', which counts because it features him!
samples don't count
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)
the Beatle in question has to have actively participated in the recording
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:00 (seven years ago)
this principle makes picking votes on Liverpool Sound Collage harder too
Twin Freaks edition of Maybe I'm Amazed btw
brb, voting Beastie Boys for 100 points
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:00 (seven years ago)
xpost
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)
lol I resisted making this very joek
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)
No Grey Album guys
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)
yeah i buy that parks take on macca. he's like a more musically inspired, varied and energetic version of like, beach boys love you, just this stoned goofball recording things because he has tunes in him and recording things is what he knows how to do. throwing all his rocker passion and all his tuneful hook-finding instincts behind nonsensical inanities. to be clear "morse moose and the grey goose" and "junior's farm" will almost assuredly be on my ballot so i am 100% in favor of this approach.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:04 (seven years ago)
Extra Texture is worse if that's possible. At least DH has an anonymous mid '70s studio rock professionalism.― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:15 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:15 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I like 'You' (which is an All Things Must Pass era outtake) and 'This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying)', mostly because of the Moog bass, but the rest is mid-tempo, beard stroking tedium. Dark Horse has a decent instrumental opener, and 'Simply Shady', but even that's sunk by the woeful condition of George's voice which even on a good day isn't a beautiful instrument to listen to. The rest of the record sucks.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:04 (seven years ago)
I'm going to allow any non-Beatles track that features the appearance of at least one Beatle.
^ 'I'm Outta Time' totally counts under this criteria!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:06 (seven years ago)
can we ban Turrican from the results thraed pre-emptively
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:09 (seven years ago)
I don't buy that Parks take on Macca at all. The "stoner goofball" shit on McCartney II is just one side of what he does.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:09 (seven years ago)
I like this a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOrTNBKUisw
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:10 (seven years ago)
that Quietus piece nails it imo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:12 (seven years ago)
xxxpost:
Oh do be quiet. For what it's worth, I'm not much into that particular rule anyway, which is why none of that stuff will be appearing on my ballot.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:12 (seven years ago)
I'd forgotten about 'Love Comes to Everyone' ... I thought some of Harrison's late '70s stuff was pretty decent, particularly Thirty-Three & 1/3 which I'd rank as his second best solo LP.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
I can think of a few Lennon & Harrison deep cuts to include, but I suspect most of 'em will be McCartney tracks.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)
Quietus quote sounds like any other description of a popular act you dont like/get, nothing specifically mccartney about it
― niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:03 (seven years ago)
glad to see this POLL on the run though, esp looking forward to hearing some deep cuts from Ringo and Harrison!
― niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:05 (seven years ago)
hmm I guess the journalist does like macca but he sure is weirdly mean in that article
― niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
looking forward to hearing some deep cuts from Ringo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZN_8M4OpMo
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:17 (seven years ago)
Worst song ever, that one.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:19 (seven years ago)
Oops! https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2017/12/23/worst-songs-ever-ringo-starrs-the-no-no-song/
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
if you consider the solo work then during the Beatles' final years they recorded two full Beatles albums a year PLUS a bunch of additional stuff incl. George's lovely soundtrack & minimalist LP, 3-4 field recording/noise records, 2 albums worth of krautrock sessions (Ringo-John-Klaus-Yoko), Paul's lofi 4-track DIY album.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:30 (seven years ago)
was gonna post Back of Boogaloo but is that a Ringo deep cut? are there such things? isn't every song of his a deep cut?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:32 (seven years ago)
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 May 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
His biggest UK hit and a top ten here. I'd say not. But the only Ringo songs I hear on lite FM are "The No No Song" and "It Don't Come Easy."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:40 (seven years ago)
the weird thing for me is that while I find plenty of Macca's stuff pleasant, I'm hard-pressed to consider what I think his greatest solo songs are.
since 2000:
queenie eyethis never happened beforeyour waynewrinse the raindropsenglish teadsnce tonightappreciatemr bellamyonly mama knows
― karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)
also harrison's self-titled album is a triumph imo, especially blow away
― karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:50 (seven years ago)
"Blow Away" rivals anything by McCartney for sheer loveliness. Harrison could write a melody.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:54 (seven years ago)
I'm no McCartney fan but I would rep pretty hard for "Another Day", "Uncle Albert" and even "Let 'em In". Maybe childhood nostalgia.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 11 May 2018 01:13 (seven years ago)
This’ll be high on my ballot. Written by George, performed by Beatles minus John plus Clapton:https://youtu.be/TEJBItLnw5I
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 May 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)
this will be a really fun poll to think about. i'm excited to revisit george harrison and see if i can find things to like beyond ATMP and LitMW.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 11 May 2018 04:44 (seven years ago)
I think Brainwashed is a real nice album.
― JoeStork, Friday, 11 May 2018 05:50 (seven years ago)
DOES ANYONE ELSE REP FOR BLINDMAN THE B-SIDE OF BACK OFF BOOGALOO?
Ahem.. Definition of deep cut.
― Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2018 06:05 (seven years ago)
Ballot of 100 tracks? I'll end up going those apple jam tracks, I just know..
― Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2018 06:07 (seven years ago)
I mean, sure "Band on the Run" or "Live and Let Die" are good but ... they aren't *that* great.
personally don't really rate live & let die but it was v cool when all the fireworks went off in the chorus when I saw him live
― niels, Friday, 11 May 2018 09:33 (seven years ago)
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, May 11, 2018
I may be the only person on ILM who rates Cloud Nine.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 10:21 (seven years ago)
Jeff Lynne-isms aside I am a big fan of the deep cuts like Fish On The Sand and If Just For Today.
― Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Friday, 11 May 2018 10:50 (seven years ago)
Turns out Harrison and Lynne were a better artist-producer pair than any of Lynne's subsequent collaborations.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 12:02 (seven years ago)
I may be the only person on ILM who rates Cloud Nine.no way, it's got "When We Was Fab" and "Got My Mind Set on You"
― niels, Friday, 11 May 2018 12:43 (seven years ago)
That's def true - Lynne's strengths as a producer compensated for George's weaknesses as a performer. My only real stylistic complaint about that stuff is how boring/robotic the rhythms could get.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:37 (seven years ago)
Xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:38 (seven years ago)
And while George is the only Beatle who might've credibly moonlighted as a pop producer, by 1987 he'd run out of ideas – Lynne was perfect for him.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 13:56 (seven years ago)
Looks like I could end up with six tracks from Ram. We shall see.
― timellison, Friday, 11 May 2018 22:41 (seven years ago)
brainwashed has some good cuts
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 May 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)
100? I can maybe squeeze out 20. Either I'm not that big a fan, or I just haven't heard enough. (Just hits past '70 or '71.) Did double-check to see if George played on Badfinger's "Day After Day," and he did, so I can vote for that.
― clemenza, Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:04 (seven years ago)
I'm looking forward to this
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:05 (seven years ago)
can we list George interviews about Paul after 1988
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:29 (seven years ago)
"Blow Away" rivals anything by McCartney for sheer loveliness. Harrison could write a melody.― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 11, 2018 12:54 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 11, 2018 12:54 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, that's a great song! The frustrating thing about Harrison is that he could come up with the goods, but after he'd exhausted most of his backlog on All Things Must Pass, he stopped doing it so much.
McCartney's post-Beatles catalogue gets the most play out of them all for me for a variety of reasons. Harrison's and Lennon's solo work settles into a bit of a trudge tempo-wise, thankfully McCartney's post-Beatles work avoids this.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 12 May 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)
Yeah "Blow Away" is definitely a great Harrison number. I'm actually pretty fond of everything on Best of Dark Horse 1976-1989 - introduced me to "Here Comes the Moon," "Crackerbox Palace," "Gone Troppo"... That plus All Things Must Pass and a few things from Living in the Material World ("Give Me Love," "Don't Let Me Wait Too Long") might be all the solo George I really need.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)
There are a few McCartney deep cuts that I want to rep for and about which I've never seen a lot of talk. They all sound to me like expressions of the depth of his musical background and all in what are fairly mysterious ways for me. "C Moon" is probably the most talked about, and with plenty of good reason. "Single Pigeon," from Red Rose Speedway, is my favorite of the bunch and will quite likely be top ten for me. It's short and quiet, but there's some dark, possibly British, old world thing to it. Also want to mention "San Ferry Anne" from Wings at the Speed of Sound, another short and quiet one with an outstanding arrangement with horns, and "The Pound Is Sinking" from Tug of War, a somewhat over-the-top sectional composition in the vein of "Happiness Is a Warm Gun" and probably just as good.
― timellison, Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
The three tracks from Gone Troppo that made that Best of Dark Horse comp are all good, but it's missing the best one!
― timellison, Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)
I'm actually pretty fond of everything on Best of Dark Horse 1976-1989
I am too -- I bought it on release and was surprised it wasn't more of a steady seller (it's deleted, I think). I even dig the new songs ("Poor Little Girl," "Cockamamie Business").
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)
I like how it includes album tracks ("Cloud Nine," "Life Itself," "That's the Way It Goes").
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)
Did you ever hear the version of "That's the Way It Goes" that Joe Brown does on Concert for George? It's super nice.
― timellison, Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
baffled by the lyrics of 'C Moon', i ran across this annotation on genius
C Moon means ‘cool’. If you make a ‘C’ and a ‘Moon’ with your fingers, and put them together, you get a circle, essentially the opposite of a ‘square’, meaning uncool. So, she is C-moon, or ‘cool’ to me(the protagonist of the song.
it's an accomplishment for mccartney that this interpretations makes just as much sense as anything else, but that the song is still so fun to listen to.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)
Well yeah, hence the lyric "it will be L7" ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)
'Single Pigeon' is a lovely tune - one of my favourites on Red Rose Speedway, which I'd put down there with my least favourite McCartney albums.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:51 (seven years ago)
thirding the love for "single pigeon," which you'd think would have gotten more attention after miguel dropped "drugs." "san ferry anne" is a good album track too, dunno if it'd make my ballot ("warm and beautiful" might).
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 12 May 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)
er the miguel song is "Do You..." obv
i saw aldous harding cover "single pigeon" last year and she introduced it by calling it her favorite song of all time. i was delighted to discover it -- such a simple, quiet, gorgeous song.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:18 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUkzPr_ap9E
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 May 2018 03:15 (seven years ago)
I'm going to allow any non-Beatles track that features the appearance of at least Beatle. This means collaborative things like the Traveling Wilburys, Yoko Ono tracks that John plays on, Nilsson's Pussycats, "Badge" by Cream, McCartney + randos collabs etc. are all eligible.
how do ppl feel about the eligibility of the Yoko Ono tracks from Milk And Honey? my understanding is that they were mostly recorded a few years after Lennon's death, so technically don't feature the 'appearance' of any Beatles, but they're part of a collaborative project with Lennon, so I'd be inclined to include them - certainly if stuff like Fly and Approximately Infinite Universe is also going to be eligible?
― soref, Sunday, 13 May 2018 11:42 (seven years ago)
I was thinking maybe having a collaborative spotify listening playlist would be practical?
https://open.spotify.com/user/betamaxdk/playlist/61os6iMh4h0qY70BawKB5U
― niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 11:53 (seven years ago)
oh yeah and I started off by adding Great Day from Flaming Pie, as good an album as Macca ever recorded
― niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 11:56 (seven years ago)
'Calico Skies' would be an easy pick from that album for me.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:08 (seven years ago)
Before I send in my ballot, can someone link to a list of records the Beatles guested on? I've tried various search terms and I'm not getting anything except the reverse, guest appearances on Beatles records.
― clemenza, Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)
Nice idea niels!
So long as we're on Flaming Pie, I added "Beautiful Night," which is a little cheeseball but was probably my favorite song on that album when it came out.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:46 (seven years ago)
(what's the etiquette for this kind of thing? any appropriate limit of 'x tracks per person per album' or whatever? i could sit and add fifty tracks in the next twenty minutes but don't want to blot out the community vibe!)
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:48 (seven years ago)
I was thinking of going through the thread to add all tracks mentioned
I think maybe add tracks you're thinking about voting for, stuff you want to highlight?
― niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
I watched the doc about the making of Flaming Pie and Beautiful Night really bangs still, and Macca is massively cheesy.
Great mix of Macca solo stuff here: https://www.nts.live/shows/radio-jiro/episodes/radio-jiro-30th-april-2018
Never heard Goodnight Tonight before - absolutely love it
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 13 May 2018 20:54 (seven years ago)
Beautiful Night is a great composition but the Flaming Pie version really sings, above the older demo, with the presence of Ringo on drums and backing vocals. Always a pleasure.Speaking of Ringo... what're the great tracks there? As a teenager, I read in some record guide (or maybe a Beatles collectibles price guide - my mom dealt antiques) that his first couple solo albums were surprisingly consistent, enjoyable country-western exercises .... but I swear all I've ever seen in the bins are endless copies of Stop And Smell The Roses, Ringo's Rotogravure, Goodnight Vienna, and the hideous Blast From Your Past comp. I've owned the latter two and there's some pleasant, genially inessential but friendly and warm material, kinda basically what I would have wanted out of Ringo post-Beatles. "It Don't Come Easy" is a killer George single. His cover of Roger Miller's "Husbands and Wives" is nice, as is the similarly hangdog "Beaucoups of Blues.". His "You're Sixteen" is a great rendition, shame the song is so gross, but it's probably the best any of them did with that early 70s wave of sock-hop throwbacks. The blowsier "I've partied my voice off with Keith Moon" material ("Goodnight Vienna," "I'm The Greatest," "Back off Boogaloo") makes me smile even if it kinda feels like you had to be there. And " No No Song" - sorry, Alfred! - is a totally charming, stupid Hoyt Axton novelty... like it comes into focus that the millions buying Ringo 45s likely overlapped a great deal with the fans of Jim Stafford, Ray Stevens, and Jimmy Buffett. I like that as a fate for an ex-Beatle, just another humorous AM radio act. Plus Nilsson's lightness on the "ay, ay ay" stuff is a nice vocal foil for our boy.OK, and "Wrack My Brain" does get in my head sometimes, but oh mannn it's lousy.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 May 2018 00:57 (seven years ago)
Also mannnn the credits on Ringo albums are just a maze of appearances by the other Beatles, songs they wrote for him, songs they wrote *and* recorded for him... seems like despite all the acrimony everybody liked Ringo and vice versa. You almost get the sense from Wikipedia that if legal/drug issues hadn't kept Paul out of the US when the self-titled album was being recorded, that you might have actually gotten a song with all four of them. Macca plays the fucking kazoo on "You're Sixteen" - the only time he and Nilsson were on the same track, I think. (Are Nilsson and Klaus Voormann the only person to have appeared on songs with all four solo Beatles?)
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 May 2018 01:08 (seven years ago)
Ram would def win over Plastic Ono Band.
― billstevejim, Monday, 14 May 2018 01:17 (seven years ago)
Yoko Ono tracks that John plays on
by 1968 Yoko Ono was as much a part of the band as any of them. in fact by playing with Ringo and John on her tracks, her material ironically has more Beatles playing on it than were on Beatles songs by this time. the last 2 years had everybody do solo stuff. after Abbey Road George was free to work on his own material for once and produce an amazing album. Paul took a vacay on a farm w his fam and made a stoned 4 track diy record. the other half of the Beatles had already started a noise band and were playing for a good year before the Beatles official broke up.
before Abbey Road was even out they had put together a krautrock band focusing on drone rock minimalism and catharsis with "Cold Turkey" and "Don't Worry Kyoko" (the latter possibly the punkest thing the Beatles ever did). working on this music was Yoko, John, Ringo, Klaus Voorman (German art student/designer of Revolver/bassist), and at one point Alan White, who was the session musician originally brought in to replace Ringo for their very first single ever "Love Me Do". Ringo ended up replacing him, in a weird twist of fate.
http://images.45cat.com/john-lennon-plastic-ono-band-cold-turkey-apple-2.jpg
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 01:20 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cR-6usPnNI
i absolutely adore the "Give Peace a Chance" b-side "Remember Love". this should have been on the White Album.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
"You and Me (Babe)" is my favorite song on Ringo. Great George Harrison composition.
― timellison, Monday, 14 May 2018 02:04 (seven years ago)
(Are Nilsson and Klaus Voormann the only person to have appeared on songs with all four solo Beatles?)
Bobby Keys maybe, if he also played on "You're Sixteen", because that would have been his one shot w/Paul.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 May 2018 02:06 (seven years ago)
Checking the credits on my Ringo best of, and apparently Keys is not on "You're Sixteen".
He probably is on A Toot and A Snore w/John & Paul, but that's a boot.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 May 2018 03:32 (seven years ago)
and at one point Alan White, who was the session musician originally brought in to replace Ringo for their very first single ever "Love Me Do". Ringo ended up replacing him, in a weird twist of fate.
They were actually different Andy Whites!
Andy White (Yes drummer)
Andy White (drummer)
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 14 May 2018 05:42 (seven years ago)
Was gonna say, yes.
― Mark G, Monday, 14 May 2018 06:46 (seven years ago)
Are Nilsson and Klaus Voormann the only person to have appeared on songs with all four solo Beatles?
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 14 May 2018 07:03 (seven years ago)
there are some great tracks on Stop And Smell The Roses (which seems to have recently been removed from spotify? Old Wave is not on there either). I really like this Stephen Stills song, the laid-back, blissed out vibe reminds me a bit of Gone Troppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAL-RPMD7wI
― soref, Monday, 14 May 2018 07:25 (seven years ago)
I have only just "discovered" "The Other Me" on "Pipes of Peace" (I was never really interested in Macca's 80s albums...).I love its smooth synth mood and the melody is great (also the lyrics are nice and not silly for a 40yo man).
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 14 May 2018 10:12 (seven years ago)
That version of Stop and Smell the Roses that was on Spotify sounded horrible!
― timellison, Monday, 14 May 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)
Here's a list of all the eligible John Lennon tracks. I'll try to do this for the others as well, and then compile them all into a master list.
JOHN LENNON
Solo and with Yoko Ono
non-album singles
Give Peace a ChanceCold TurkeyInstant KarmaPower to the PeopleOpen Your BoxRemember LoveWho Has Seen the Wind?Happy Xmas (War is Over)Listen, the Snow Is FallingWalking on Thin Ice
Unfinished Music No. 1: Two VirginsTwo Virgins No. 1TogetherTwo Virgins No. 2Two Virgins No. 3Two Virgins No. 4Two Virgins No. 5Two Virgins No. 6Hushabye HushabyeTwo Virgins No. 7Two Virgins No. 8Two Virgins No. 9Two Virgins No. 10
Unfinished Music No. 2: Life with the LionsCambridge 1969No Bed for Beatle JohnBaby's HeartbeatTwo Minutes SilenceRadio PlaySong for JohnMulberry
Wedding AlbumJohn & YokoAmsterdam
John Lennon/Plastic Ono BandMotherHold OnI Found OutWorking Class HeroIsolationRememberLoveWell Well WellLook at MeGodMy Mummy's Dead
Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono BandWhyWhy NotGreenfield Morning I Pushed an Empty Baby Carriage All Over the CityAOSTouch MePaper Shoes
ImagineImagineCrippled InsideJealous GuyIt's So HardI Don't Want to be a SoldierGive Me Some TruthOh My LoveHow Do You Sleep?How?Oh Yoko!
Fly - Yoko Ono (producer, guitar, piano, organ)Midsummer New YorkMind TrainMind HolesDon't Worry, Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for Her Hand in the Snow)Mrs. LennonHirake (previously released as "Open Your Box")Toilet Piece/UnknownO'Wind (Body Is the Scar of Your Mind)AirmaleDon't Count the WavesYouFlyTelephone Piece
Some Time in New York CityWoman Is the Nigger of the WorldSisters, O SistersAttica StateBorn in a PrisonNew York CitySunday Bloody SundayThe Luck of the IrishJohn SinclairAngelaWe're All WaterCold TurkeyDon't Worry KyokoWell (Baby Please Don't Go)JamragScumbagAü
Mind GamesMind GamesTight A$Aisumasen (I'm Sorry)One Day (At a Time)Bring on the Lucie (Freda Peeple)Nutopian International AnthemIntuitionOut the BlueOnly PeopleI Know (I Know)You Are HereMeat City
Approximately Infinite Universe - Yoko OnoYang YangDeath of SamanthaI Want My Love to Rest TonightWhat Did I Do!Have You Seen a Horizon Lately?Approximately Infinite UniversePeter the DealerSong for JohnCatman (The Rosies Are Coming)What a Bastard the World IsWaiting for the SunriseI Felt Like Smashing My Face in a Clear Glass WindowWinter SongKite SongWhat a MessShiranakatta (I Didn't Know)Air TalkI Have a Woman Inside My SoulMove on FastNow or NeverIs Winter Here to Stay?Looking Over from My Hotel Window
Walls and BridgesGoing Down on LoveWhatever Gets You thru the NightOld Dirt RoadWhat You GotBless YouScared#9 DreamSurprise, Surprise (Sweet Bird of Paradox)Steel and GlassBeef JerkyNobody Loves You (When You're Down and Out)Ya Ya
Rock 'n' RollBe-Bop-A-LulaStand by MeMedley: Rip It Up/Ready TeddyYou Can't Catch MeAin't That a ShameDo You Wanna Dance?Sweet Little SixteenSlippin' and Slidin'Peggy SueMedley: Bring It On Home to Me/Send Me Some Lovin'Bony MoronieJust BecauseAngel BabyTo Know Her Is to Love HerSince My Baby Left MeJust Because (Reprise)
Double Fantasy(Just Like) Starting OverKiss Kiss KissCleanup TimeGive Me SomethingI'm Losing YouI'm Moving OnBeautiful Boy (Darling Boy)Watching the WheelsYes, I'm Your AngelWomanBeautiful BoysDear YokoEvery Man Has a Woman Who Loves HimHard Times Are Over
Milk & HoneyI'm Stepping OutI Don't Wanna Face ItNobody Told MeBorrowed Time(Forgive Me) My Little Flower PrincessGrow Old With Me
Other artists
We Love You - The Rolling Stones (backing vocals and handclaps)Do the Oz - Bill Elliot and the Elastic Oz Band (vocals)I'm The Greatest - Ringo Starr (piano and harmony vocals)She Hits Back - Yoko Ono (producer, guitar)Woman Power - Yoko Ono (producer, guitar)Too Many Cooks (Spoil the Soup) - Mick Jagger (producer)The Bitch is Back - Elton John (tambourine)Goodnight Vienna - Ringo Starr (vocals/piano)All By Myself - Ringo Starr (guitar)Only You (and You Alone) - Ringo Starr (guitar)Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - Elton John (guitar, backing vocals)Across the Universe - David Bowie (vocals, guitar, backing vocals)Fame - David Bowie (vocals, guitar, backing vocals)Cookin (in the Kitchen of Love) - Ringo Starr (piano)John Lennon for President - David Peel and the Lower East Side (producer)I'm Losing You - Cheap Trick (vocals)
The Pope Smokes Dope - David Peel and the Lower East Side (producer)I'm a RunawayEverybody's Smoking MarijuanaF Is Not a Dirty WordThe Hippie from New York CityMcDonald's FarmThe Ballad of New York CityThe Ballad of Bob DylanThe Chicago ConspiracyThe Hip GenerationI'm Gonna Start Another RiotThe Birth Control BluesThe Pope Smokes DopeAmerika
Elephant's Memory - Elephants Memory (producer, guitar, backing vocals)Liberation SpecialBaddest Of The MeanCrying Blacksheep BluesChuck'N BoGypsy WolfMadnessLifeWind RidgePower BoogieLocal Plastic Ono Band
Pussy Cats - Harry Nilsson (producer)Many Rivers to CrossSubterranean Homesick BluesDon't Forget MeAll My LifeOld Forgotten SoldierSave the Last Dance for MeMucho Mungo/Mt. ElgaLoop De LoopBlack SailsRock Around the ClockDown by the SeaThe Flying Saucer SongTurn Out the LightSave the Last Dance for Me
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 17:19 (seven years ago)
cool, that's my ballot right there, thanks ;)
― sleeve, Monday, 14 May 2018 17:21 (seven years ago)
I listened to Traveling Wilburys vol 1 for the first time this morning! Kinda bleh on the whole but I liked a couple of them! The handing off of vocals on “handle with care” is kinda silly but by my second listen I was still singing along
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 14 May 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
yeah "Handle With Care" is great
― sleeve, Monday, 14 May 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)
"End of the Line," "Heading for the Light," "Dirty World."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
oh duh I was thinking of "End Of The Line" but I like a lot of those tracks, hadn't listened since the 80's/90's but when Petty died we revisited them
― sleeve, Monday, 14 May 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
Just remembered this clip of George singing one of the vol 3 songs solo - http://youtu.be/c3VNoinFtR0
― JoeStork, Monday, 14 May 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
Dirty World is hilarious
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
RED BELL PEPPERS
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
Is there a list of all eligible tracks? I see Outic posted Lennon’s but I need one for each Beatle to make my final list and not fuck up the format.
Mccartney might be the one with the overall most interesting solo work.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
Keith Moon (as "Keif Spoon") is on Some Time In New York City, and he and Ringo are pretty smashed on a couple of Two Sides Of The Moon tracks (none of which I can justify shoehorning into my ballot). He was supposed to play on Paul's "Rockestra Theme," but died a month before the session (Kenney Jones took his place).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)
Any excuse to listen to Flowers in the Dirt again... as if I need one, though. One of McCartney's best.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)
― sciatica, Monday, 14 May 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
I'm going through Harrison's now - his is pretty difficult, lots of sideman appearances, one-off singles, etc.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
you better include his contribution to Belinda Carlisle's "Leave a Light On."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
take this, for example, which I had never heard of before today. George is all over this album, they were signed to his label etc.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89onN05WG1s
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
shout out to Lennon's demo of "I'm the Greatest" for Ringo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaKrBsCkGRE
― Darin, Monday, 14 May 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)
Some of McCartney's tracks from The Family Way are kind of cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d84w9x0FNgo
― Darin, Monday, 14 May 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)
Good luck with posting a list of everything McCartney's worked on post-Beatles, btw. I don't think he's ever taken much of a break in 50+ years.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
GEORGE HARRISON
Solo
Wonderwall MusicMicrobesRed Lady TooTabla and PakavajIn the ParkDrilling a HomeGuru VandanaGreasy LegsSki-ingGat KirwaniDream SceneParty SeacombeLove SceneCryingCowboy MusicFantasy SequinsOn the BedGlass BoxWonderwall to Be HereSinging Om
Electronic SoundUnder the Mersey WallNo Time or Space
All Things Must PasI'd Have You AnytimeMy Sweet LordWah-WahIsn't It a Pity (Version One)What Is LifeIf Not for YouBehind That Locked DoorLet It DownRun of the MillBeware of DarknessApple ScruffsBallad of Sir Frankie Crisp (Let It Roll)Awaiting on You AllAll Things Must PassI Dig LoveArt of DyingIsn't It a Pity (Version Two)Hear Me LordOut of the BlueIt's Johnny's BirthdayPlug Me InI Remember JeepThanks for the PepperoniI Live for You
Living in the Material WorldGive Me Love (Give Me Peace on Earth)Sue Me, Sue You BluesThe Light That Has Lighted the WorldDon't Let Me Wait Too LongWho Can See ItLiving in the Material WorldThe Lord Loves the One (That Loves the Lord)Be Here NowTry Some, Buy SomeThe Day the World Gets 'RoundThat Is AllDeep BlueMiss O'Dell
Dark HorseHari's on Tour (Express)Simply ShadySo SadBye Bye, LoveMāya LoveDing Dong, Ding DongDark HorseFar East ManIt Is 'He' (Jai Sri Krishna)I Don't Care Anymore
Extra Texture (Read All About ItYouThe Answer's at the EndThis Guitar (Can't Keep from Crying)Ooh Baby (You Know That I Love You)World of StoneA Bit More of YouCan't Stop Thinking About YouTired of Midnight BlueGrey Cloudy LiesHis Name Is Legs (Ladies and Gentlemen)
Thirty Three & 1/3Woman Don't You Cry for MeDear OneBeautiful GirlThis SongSee YourselfIt's What You ValueTrue LovePure SmokeyCrackerbox PalaceLearning How to Love YouTears of the World
George HarrisonLove Comes to EveryoneNot GuiltyHere Comes the MoonSoft-Hearted HanaBlow AwayFasterDark Sweet LadyYour Love Is ForeverSoft TouchIf You Believe
Somewhere in EnglandBlood from a CloneUnconsciousness RulesLife ItselfAll Those Years AgoBaltimore OrioleTeardropsThat Which I Have LostWriting's on the WallHong Kong BluesSave the World
Gone TroppoWake Up My LoveThat's the Way It GoesI Really Love YouGreeceGone TroppoMystical OneUnknown DelightBaby Don't Run AwayDream AwayCircles
Cloud NineCloud 9That's What It TakesFish on the SandJust for TodayThis Is LoveWhen We Was FabDevil's RadioSomeplace ElseWreck of the HesperusBreath Away from HeavenGot My Mind Set on YouShanghai SurpriseZig Zag
BrainwashedAny Road P2 Vatican Blues (Last Saturday Night) Pisces Fish Looking for My Life Rising Sun Marwa Blues Stuck Inside a Cloud Run So Far Never Get Over You Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea Rocking Chair in Hawaii Brainwashed
Non-album singlesBangla DeshI Don't Want to Do ItCheer DownShanghai SurprisePoor Little GirlRide RajbunMo
with other artistsIn the First Place - the Remo Four (backing vocals, producer)Carolina On My Mind - James Taylor (backing vocals)Badge - Cream (guitar)Hare Krishna Mantra - Radha Krishna Temple (guitars, harmonium and bass, producer)Never Tell Your Mother She's Out of Tune - Jack Bruce (guitar)All That I've Got (I'm Gonna Give It To You) - Billy Preston (guitar, producer)Instant Karma - Plastic Ono Band (guitars, backing vocals)How the Web Was Woven - Jackie Lomax (producer)Govinda - Radha Krishna Temple (guitars, harmonium, bass, producer)Roll It Over - Derek and the Dominos (slide guitar)I'm Your Spiritual Breadman - Ashton, Gardner & Dyke (guitar)Went to See the Gypsy - Bob Dylan (guitar)Sign on the Window - Bob Dylan (guitar)If Not For You - Bob Dylan (guitar, demo version)It Don't Come Easy - Ringo Starr (guitar, producer)Early 1970 - Ringo Starr (slide guitar, piano, acoustic guitar, dobro and bass)Try Some, Buy Some - Ronnie Spector (guitars, producer)Tandoori Chicken - Ronnie Spector (guitars, producer)How Do You Sleep? - John Lennon (guitar)Gimme Some Truth - John Lennon (guitar)I Don't Want to Be a Soldier - John Lennon (guitar)I Wrote a Simple Song - Billy Preston (dobro)Day After Day - Badfinger (guitar, co-producer)I'd Die, Baby - Badfinger (guitars, co-producer)Suitcase - Badfinger (co-producer)Name of the Game - Badfinger (co-producer)The Holdup - David Bromberg (guitar)Sweet Music - Lon and Derrek Van Eaton (producer)Back Off Boogaloo - Ringo Starr (guitars, producer)Where There's a Will - Bobby Whitlock (guitar)A Day Without Jesus - Bobby Whitlock (guitar)Back in My Life Again - Bobby Whitlock (guitar)Cold Turkey - John Lennon/Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band (guitar - Some Time in New York City live version)Don't Worry Kyoko - John Lennon/Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band (guitar - Some Time in New York City live version)You're Breakin' My Heart - Harry Nilsson (guitar)Goodbye Sunday - Gary Wright (guitar)Basketball Jones - Cheech & Chong (guitar)Photograph - Ringo Starr (guitars, backing vocals)I'm the Greatest - Ringo Starr (guitars, backing vocals)Sunshine Life for Me - Ringo Starr (guitars, backing vocals)You and Me Babe - Ringo Starr (guitars, backing vocals)Down and Out - Ringo Starr (guitars, co-producer)I Need You - Don Nix (guitar)If You've Got Love - Dave Mason (guitar)So Sad (No Love of His Own) - Alvin Lee and Mylon LeFevre (guitar, dobro, bass, vocal)Daybreak - Harry Nilsson (percussion)Far East Man - Ronnie Wood (guitar, backing vocals)That's Life - Billy Preston (guitar)Make Love Not War - Peter Skellern (guitar)The Lumberjack Song - Monty Python (producer)Appolonia (Foxtrata) - Tom Scott (guitar)Direct Me - Larry Hosford (dobro)Wishing I Could - Larry Hosford (backing vocals)Round and Round - Splinter (guitars)Motions of Love - Splinter (guitars)The Last Time - Hall and Oates (guitar)Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - Monty Python (backing vocal, mixing)Walk a Thin Line - Mick Fleetwood (guitars)Mineral Man - Gary Brooker (guitar)Focus of Attention - Jimmy Helms (guitar)Celebration - Jimmy Helms (guitar)Exchange and Mart - Blind Faith (guitar)Talk Don't Bother Me - Alvin Lee (guitar)Children of the Sky - Mike Batt (guitar, backing vocals)The Trembler - Duane Eddy (guitar, producer)Theme for Something Really Important - Duane Eddy (guitar, producer)Tana Mana - the Ravi Shankar Project (vocals)Friar Park - the Ravi Shankar Project (autoharp, synthesizer)Love's a State of Mind - Sylvia Griffin (guitar)(I Don't Wanna) Hold Back - Gary Wright (guitar)A Love So Beautiful - Roy Orbison (guitar)I Won't Back Down - Tom Petty (guitar, backing vocals)Oh Lord, Why Lord - Jim Capaldi (guitar)Leave a Light On - Belinda Carlisle (guitar)Deep Deep Ocean - Belinda Carlisle (guitar, bass)Run So Far - Eric Clapton (guitar, backing vocals)Lu Le La - Vicki Brown (guitar)That Kind of Woman - Gary Moore (guitar)While My Guitar Gently Weeps - Jeff Healey Band (guitar, backing vocals)Take Away the Sadness - Jim Horn (guitar)Every Little Thing - Jeff Lynne (guitar, backing vocals)Lift Me Up - Jeff Lynne (guitar, backing vocals)September Song - Jeff Lynne (guitar, backing vocals)Stormy Weather - Jeff Lynne (guitar, backing vocals)Homeward Bound - Paul SImon (guitar, vocals, 1990 version)Under the Red Sky - Bob Dylan (guitar)Hot Love - Del Shannon (backing vocals)Real Love - Jimmy Nail (guitar)Real Life Blues - Alvin Lee (guitar)The Bluest Blues - Alvin Lee (guitar)This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying) - Platinum Weird (vocals, guitar)I Want You (She's So Heavy) - Alvin Lee (guitar)Don't Try to Own Me - Gary Wright (backing vocals)Distance Makes no Difference with Love - Carl Perkins (guitar,s piano, synthesizer, bass, backing vocals, producer)King of Broken Hearts - Ringo Starr (guitar)I'll Be Fine Anywhere - Ringo Starr (guitar)Punchdrunk - Rubyhorse (guitar)A Long Time Gone - ELO (guitar)All She Wanted - ELO (guitar)Anna Julia - Jim Capaldi (guitar)Horse to the Water - Jools Holland's Rhythm and Blues Orchestra (vocals)
Is This What You Want? - Jackie Lomax (guitars, producer)Speak To Me Is This What You Want? How Can You Say Goodbye Sunset Sour Milk Sea Fall Inside Your Eyes Little Yellow Pills Take My Word The Eagle Laughs At You Baby You're A Lover You've Got Me Thinking I Just Don't Know
Leon Russell - Leon Russell (electric guitar)A Song For You Dixie LullabyI Put A Spell On YouShoot Out On The PlantationHummingbirdDelta LadyPrince Of PeaceOld MastersGive Peace A ChanceHurtsome BodyPisces Apple LadyRoll Away The Stone
Doris Troy - Doris Troy (guitar, co-producer)Ain't That Cute Special Care Give Me Back My Dynamite You Tore Me Up Inside Games People Play Gonna Get My Baby Back I've Got To Be Strong Hurry So Far Exactly Like You You Give Me Joy Joy Don't Call Me No More Jacob's Ladder
That's the Way God Planned It - Billy Preston (guitars, moog, sitar, producer)Do What You WantI Want To Thank YouEverything's AlrightShe Belongs To MeIt Doesn't MatterMorning StarHey BrotherWhat About YouLet Us All Get Together Right NowThis Is ItKeep It To YourselfThat's The Way God Planned It
Encouraging Words - Billy Preston (guitars, moog, sitar, backing vocals, co-producer)Right NowLittle GirlUse What You've GotMy Sweet LordLet The Music PlayThe Same Thing AgainI've Got A FeelingSing One For The LordWhen You Are MineI Don't Want You To PretendEncouraging WordsAll Things Must PassYou've Been Acting Strange
The Concert for BangladeshIntroductionBangla Dhun Wah-Wah My Sweet Lord Awaiting On You All That's The Way God Planned It It Don't Come Easy Beware Of Darkness While My Guitar Gently Weeps Medley:Jumping Jack Flash/Youngblood Here Comes The Sun A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall It Takes A Lot To Laugh/It Takes A Train to Cry Blowin' In The Wind Mr. Tambourine Man Just Like A Woman ESomething Bangla Desh
The Radha Krsna Temple - Radha Krishna Temple (London) (guitars, harmonium, bass, percussion, producer)Govinda Sri Gurvastakam Bhaja Bhakata/Arati Hare Krsna Mantra Sri Isopanisad Bhaja Hunre Mana Govinda Jai Jai
Joi Bangla EP - Ravi Shankar (producer)Joi Bangla Oh Bhaugowan Raga Mishra-Jhinjhoti
Footprint - Gary Wright (guitar, dobro)Give Me The Good Earth Two Faced Man Love To Survive Whether It's Right Or Wrong Stand For Our RightsFascinating Things Forgotten If You Treat Someone Right
Raga (soundtrack) - Ravi Shankar (producer)Dawn To Dusk Vedic Hymns Baba Teaching Birth To Death Vinus House Gurur Bramha United Nations Raga Parameshwari Rangeswhari Banaras Ghat Bombay Studio Kinnara School Frenzy And Distortion Raga Desh
Bobby Keys - Bobby Keys (guitar)Steal From A KingSmokefootBootlegAltar RockKey WestCommand PerformanceCrispy DuckSand & Foam
In Concert 1972 - Ravi Shankar and Ali Akbar Khan (co-producer)Raga - Hem Bihag Raga - Manj Khamaj (Part I) Raga - Manj Khamaj (Part II) Raga - Sindhi Bhairavi
The Tin Man Was a Dreamer - Nicky Hopkins (guitar)Sundown In Mexico Waiting For The Band Edward Dolly Speed On The Dreamer Banana Anna Lawyer's Lament Shout It Out Pig's Boogie
The Place I Love - Splinter (guitars, dobro, bass, harmonium, moog, producer)Gravy Train Drink All Day (Got To Find Your Own Way Home) China Light Somebody's City Costafine Town The Place I Love Situation Vacant Elly May Haven't Got Time
Shankar Family & Friends - Ravi ShankarI Am Missing YouKahān Gayelavā Shyām SalonéSupané Mé Āyé Preetam SainyāI Am Missing You (Reprise)Jaya Jagadish HaréOverture Festivity & Joy Love-Dance Ecstasy Lust (Rāga Chandrakauns) Dispute & Violence Disillusionment & Frustration Despair & Sorrow (Rāga Marwā) Awakening Peace & Hope (Rāga Bhatiyār)
Ravi Shankar's Music Festival From India - Ravi ShankarVandanna Dhamar Tarana Chaturang Raga Jait Kajri Bhajan Nanderdani Dehati
Stop and Smell the Roses - Ringo Starr (guitars, backing vocal, producer)Private Property Wrack My Brain Drumming Is My Madness Attention Stop And Take The Time To Smell The Roses Dead Giveaway You Belong To Me Sure To Fall Nice Way Back Off Boogaloo
Travelling Wilburys Vol.1 - Travelling Wilburys (guitars, vocal, producer)Handle With CareDirty World Rattled Last Night Not Alone Any More Congratulations Heading For The Light Margarita Tweeter And The Monkey Man End Of The Line
Travelling Wilburys Vol.3 - Travelling Wilburys (guitars, vocal, producer)She's My Baby Inside Out If You Belonged To Me The Devil's Been Busy Deadly Sins Poor House Where Were You Last Night? Cool Dry Place New Blue Moon You Took My Breath Away Wilbury Twist
Chants of India - Ravi ShankarVandanaa Trayee Omkaaraaya Namaha Vedic Chanting Asato Maa Sahanaa Vavatu Poornamadah Gaayatri Mahaa Mrityunjaya Veenaa-Murali Geetaa Mangalam Hari Om Svara Mantra Vedic Chanting Prabhujee Sarve Shaam
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
lol whoops i thought Crackerbox Palace was on Dark Horse. that's probably my favorite solo George track
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 May 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
damn, you're putting in some work shakey!
― niels, Monday, 14 May 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)
hero
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Monday, 14 May 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
The lists gave me a wah-wah!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)
Good work, Shakey! There's quite a few things in the Harrison list that I haven't yet heard...
McCartney'll be the hardest: solo, plus Wings, Paul McCartney & Wings, Paul & Linda McCartney, The Fireman, Percy "Thrills" Thrillington, his classical stuff, and the number of guest appearances and one-offs and other pseudonyms.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
Urban Spaceman at no. 1, obviously
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)
The John list missed "Walking on thin ice"
― Mark G, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)
Oh fuck, I forgot that he'd produced that Bonzo's track! Obviously, there's the stuff with Mary Hopkin and Badfinger etc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)
xp no it didn't, it's 10th from the beginning of the list
― sleeve, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:29 (seven years ago)
I almost want to redo my already sent ballot...
― Mark G, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:30 (seven years ago)
Xpost so it is. OK, "It happened" the b-side
― Mark G, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)
As much as I'm tempted to submit a ballot of my 100 favourite McCartney songs, I'd only be lying to myself if I didn't vote for my favourite Lennon and Harrison tracks. I couldn't not vote for 'Cold Turkey', for example.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
"It happened" the b-side
John is not on this song
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
sometimes I think that McCartney's production of "Come and Get It" is one of the shittiest things he ever did. Not that it's a bad song (tbf it's a mediocre song) but just the way he treated the band as little more than a vehicle for finding out if he could put out a song without his name on it and still have it be a hit, it's just a shitty thing to do to a fellow artist, to treat them as less than active participants in their own creative output.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)
i love "Woman Power", with John on guitar. from the explicitly feminist "Feeling the Space" LP. cool revolutionary lyrics:
Two thousand years of male societyLaying fear and tyrannySeeking grades and moneyClinging to values vain and phony
Woman power! (woman power!)Woman power! (woman power!)
Do you know that one day you lost your way, man?Do you know that some day you have to pay, man?Have you anything to say, man, except"make no mistake about it, i'm the president, you hear?"I wanna make one thing clear, i'm the president, you hear?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kVMp7M0rdE
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
I think that's the one Lennon-era Yoko album I don't have...? Cool track, def in their proto-krautrock vein.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:47 (seven years ago)
sometimes I think that McCartney's production of "Come and Get It" is one of the shittiest things he ever did. Not that it's a bad song (tbf it's a mediocre song) but just the way he treated the band as little more than a vehicle for finding out if he could put out a song without his name on it and still have it be a hit, it's just a shitty thing to do to a fellow artist, to treat them as less than active participants in their own creative output.― Οὖτις, Monday, May 14, 2018 8:39 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Monday, May 14, 2018 8:39 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree with you completely about 'Come and Get It', it's pretty much McCartney on autopilot and wouldn't have really got past the others if it had been put forward as a potential Beatles track. Some of the other things he gave away: 'Goodbye', 'Step Inside Love' etc. were far better.
It says a lot about McCartney's ego at that time where he basically was like "you have to copy my demo note for note because this is the hit sound" - Badfinger's own material was stronger: 'No Matter What', 'Day After Day', 'Without You' all knock 'Come and Get It' into a cocked hat.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 20:50 (seven years ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Radha_Krsna_Temple_(album)https://krishna.org/george-harrison-interview-hare-krishna-mantra-theres-nothing-higher-1982/
the Radha Krsna Temple album, produced by George and feature his guitar, should also be included. this is great stuff, a form of pop bhakti. George Harrison plays with the Krishna temple and together they actually produced a hit single with a recording of the "Hare Krishna" mantra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVMgEupff-E
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 20:50 (seven years ago)
Wall of Vedic Sound on Apple records in 1971
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
that was listed under George's CV and yeah it's pretty good. A couple of the Ravi Shankar albums he did are better imo.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)
McCartney's list is making me realize how many songs he wrote and gave away but didn't perform on.
(These songs are not eligible FYI)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 21:00 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Monday, May 14, 2018 4:47 PM
Yeah, it's her weakest from this period.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:00 (seven years ago)
no way. its so good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUleDpA3DLE
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)
I'll forever love YO/POB, Fly, and AIU though.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
Feeling the Space definitely deserves a listen. the band is pretty nice and has a 70's soul vibe to it. "Growing Pain" w that beat and that flute and some lovely early 70s space r&b. "Woman of Salem" is devastating, vividly re-telling the story of the morning of a witch hanging, like a folk thing Johnny Cash or Nick Cave would do. "Run Run Run" i like a lot because it is a nice breezy pop song with a great catchy chorus about "Run run run run run for your life" almost like on a Pink Floyd satirical tip or something. her style for this album is more political & concrete, less abstract/conceptual. a lot of the album is about the women's struggle, she is confronting an ages old thing that weighs heavy on the world. the music is pretty rad.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:11 (seven years ago)
John is only performing on a 2 songs here tho, as the album as a whole is mostly her statement, thus outside the rules of this poll.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
i dig the vibraphone jazz pop of "Yellow girl (Stand by for life)"
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)
Both songs john plays on from that album were listed as eligible fwiw
Xpip
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 May 2018 21:19 (seven years ago)
yes that list is well put together!
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
This is nuts, and unheard until recent CD reissues i believe? Genuinely amazing and sounds more like a late 80s proto acid-y thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w40MUrFq3xM
― piscesx, Monday, 14 May 2018 21:35 (seven years ago)
I love it.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)
I like McCartney II and the rest of the stuff that didn't make the album, but it is a touch overrated by people who consider themselves to be too cool to listen to 'Once Upon a Long Ago' or 'My Brave Face' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
'Dark Room' is another great one from McCartney II ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)
dope lists shakey. i'll dig through tomorrow and hype some fave tracks.
"come and get it" is .... okay. i love the "SON-ny! If.. you..." hook. but it's badly underwritten, with basically a verse and a chorus ad nauseum iirc. that's the real impresario sin - the recording is great and it was a top-tenner in the UK and US both. otherwise i'm not sure he did anything worse there than any other producer of a bubblegum single in that period.
"secret friend" was a b-side on the "temporary secretary" 12" single, and would burble up periodically as a "woah, this is the mccartney track for people who hate mccartney" (much like the album as a whole was always slightly on the cusp of cool cred for weirdos) - i remember blount repping for it circa 2005/2006. naturally it's never done a ton for me but it's a good stoner trip thing. as far as castoffs from the mccartney ii sessions go (it was originally conceived, insanely, as a double ablum) i prefer the shorter, one-idea songs like "mr. h. atom" and "you know i'll get you babe," which i knew from mp3s of bootleg albums. not things i would put on a ballot, though one of the "coming up"s has to place. "waterspout" though is the true lost gem of that period.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 May 2018 23:00 (seven years ago)
woah i guess "waterspout" is actually a few years earlier! i'm seeing it on "london town sessions" lists. weird, it feels so mccartney-ii to me.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 May 2018 23:02 (seven years ago)
McCartney II, which I've lived with 25 years, is mostly crap.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 23:04 (seven years ago)
"Waterfalls"? Yeah. It was a UK top ten!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 23:05 (seven years ago)
"waterfalls" is lovely also!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 May 2018 23:39 (seven years ago)
McCartney II, whichwho I've lived with 25 38 years, is mostly crap.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
fixed
― sleeve, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 00:38 (seven years ago)
Where is the mccartney list?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
I might put Temporary Secretary on number one and fill the rest with Ringo songs.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 01:19 (seven years ago)
ha I was thinking of doing an all-Ringo ballot just to narrow the field but shakey’s lists are great, will definitely be listening to a lot of stuff on there I haven’t heard
― sciatica, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
I dunno moka, where is your mccartney list
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 01:47 (seven years ago)
I wrote this about Turrican's beloved Flowers in the Dirt last year when reissued.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
McCartney II definitely rules. i love the music video for "Coming Up". i love the drums-and-vocoder breakdown in "Goodnight Tonight". "Waterfalls" is a great song even if inspiring another great song wasn't enough (TLC). there is some great Eno-style ambient stuff on the record too. for the first McCartney he also did some ambient/experimental pop stuff, the instrumental "Junk", the singing crystal glasses, the clipped song "Suicide".
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:04 (seven years ago)
lol moka these lists probably take a shit ton of effort to put together!
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:06 (seven years ago)
also shakey if you can hurry up with the mccartney list, we need it stat
Hahaha I wasn’t pressuring for shakey to post it I was legit looking on mobile and saw the Lennon and Harrison list and thought there was lists for the other two in here but couldn’t find them... thought a link or something was posted upthread and couldn’t find it
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:21 (seven years ago)
McCartney is probably the most daunting one to make a list of so I wont take the herculean task to do it.
I find it incredible that with so many rabid fans of this band there isn’t a site with these sort of lists already arranged. You could set up a website and make money off of these lists you’ve made.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:26 (seven years ago)
I had no idea shakey was making these himself. Thought it was a copy paste from other site, that’s why I found it confusing why we only had the Lennon songs in here at first.
No pressure shakey, thanks for posting these really appreciate the effort and had no idea these was all you... sorry.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:28 (seven years ago)
same here! i guess maybe they're out there, but maybe hidden away in BBS posts from the late 80s, un-googleable
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 04:10 (seven years ago)
*cough* Discogs appearance/performance credits
― sleeve, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 04:42 (seven years ago)
where the nerds truly shine
― sleeve, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 04:43 (seven years ago)
i don't know, i've found them kind of hit and miss, unless i'm just not looking in the right place. is there a better discogs appearance/performance credit for harrison than this one?
https://www.discogs.com/artist/243955-George-Harrison?sort=year%2Casc&limit=500&filter_anv=0&type=Appearances&page=1
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 04:49 (seven years ago)
https://www.discogs.com/artist/243955-George-Harrison?filter_anv=0&subtype=Instruments-Performance&type=Credits
maybe? I certainly find it useful for less prolific artists
― sleeve, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 05:07 (seven years ago)
McCartney II's great, you start hassling that you might as well diss Tusk as well (they were both pretty key uncool but cool records for the cool kids of 2005)
― albvivertine, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 05:54 (seven years ago)
AH, now that's funny - I didn't know George's middle name.
John's being Winston, Paul's being Paul. Tempted to say Ringo didn't have one. But George? Oh.. oh...
Really? WellINever.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 07:08 (seven years ago)
I'm in a bit of a quandary about including Macca's classical work, since he doesnt perform on them.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 14:58 (seven years ago)
At the same time, they seem like a bit of a different beast from songs he wrote for elvis costello or mary hopkin or whoever
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)
cannot imagine any of them placing so leaving them off might be a kindness to the one or two posters who might otherwise be tempted into wasting their votes. but i've been wrong about things like that before...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:18 (seven years ago)
The Family Way soundtrack feels very informative to where Macca's creative mind was at in between Revolver & Pepper. I could care less about the 90s stuff.
― Darin, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:30 (seven years ago)
It's as essential as Wonderwall Music or Two Virgins IMHO
― Darin, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
i buy that line. i'm probably biased just from never being curious enough to check that stuff out!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
McCartney's involvement in the project was minimal, according to biographer Howard Sounes, who quotes Martin's recollection that he had to "pester Paul for the briefest scrap of a tune" with which to start writing the score. After McCartney had provided "a sweet little fragment of a waltz tune", Martin continued, "I was able to complete the score."[6] But this appears to refer specifically to Martin's last-minute decision that the score needed "a central love theme, something wistful" for which McCartney composed the extra theme "Love In the Open Air" after the bulk of the score had been written. Martin said he had to "go round to his house and literally stand there until he composed something."
Credited as arranged and conducted by Martin.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:43 (seven years ago)
So yeah idk I'm inclined to leave this stuff out
i don't envision getting around to coming up with 100 songs, or investigating the hours and hours of paul and ringo i've never heard, in time to vote on all this, but goddamn the 80-second title track to venus and mars is beautiful and should be talked about more often. "rock show," which it's attached to, is great too, obviously, but "venus and mars" is next level and it's way up there in my paul pantheon. (the longer, bowie-esque reprise on side two not quite as good.)
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
Ok, so I made these a while back - imaginary LPs from Abbey Road up to 1981 (I planned to continue up to the present day but didn't for whatever reason) - I am positive that nobody will 100% agree with my choices, but thought I might as well share / get some feedback on them.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:22 (seven years ago)
xpost:
I agree, but I prefer the reprise of 'Venus and Mars' because of the outro with all the backing vocals and because, like 'Loup', it's an example of Paul getting cosmic.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)
here's one I'd never heard of before
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGear
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
I read about it in the late '80s.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)
I saw a copy in the bins a while back, have always been sorta curious but also figured if it was any good some Beatles obsessives would have let this be known to me by now.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:36 (seven years ago)
PAUL MCCARTNEY
Solo and with Wings
McCartneyThe Lovely Linda That Would Be Something Valentine Day Every Night Hot As Sun Glasses Junk Man We Was Lonely Oo You Momma Miss America Teddy Boy Singalong Junk Maybe I'm Amazed Kreen - Akrore
RamToo Many People 3 Legs Ram On Dear Boy Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey Smile Away Heart Of The Country Monkberry Moon Delight Eat At Home Long Haired Lady Ram On The Back Seat Of My Car
Wild LifeMumboBip BopLove Is Strange Wild LifeSome People Never KnowI Am Your SingerTomorrowDear Friend
Red Rose SpeedwayBig Barn Bed My Love Get On The Right Thing One More Kiss Little Lamb Dragonfly Single Pigeon When The Night Loup (1st Indian On The Moon) Medley (Hold Me Tight, Lazy Dynamite, Hands Of Love, Power Cut)
Band on the RunBand On The Run Jet Bluebird Mrs. Vandebilt Let Me Roll It Mamunia No Words Picasso's Last Words (Drink To Me) Nineteen Hundred And Eighty Five
Venus and MarsVenus And Mars Rock Show Love In Song You Gave Me The Answer Magneto And Titanium Man Letting Go Venus And Mars – Reprise Spirits Of Ancient Egypt Medicine Jar Call Me Back Again Listen To What The Man Said Treat Her Gently – Lonely Old People Crossroads Theme
Wings at the Speed of SoundLet 'Em In The Note You Never Wrote She's My Baby Beware My Love Wino Junko Silly Love Songs Cook Of The House Time To Hide Must Do Something About It San Ferry Anne Warm And Beautiful
London TownLondon TownCafe On The Left BankI'm CarryingBackwards TravellerCuff LinkChildren ChildrenGirlfriendI've Had EnoughWith A Little LuckFamous GroupiesDeliver Your ChildrenName And AddressDon't Let It Bring You DownMorse Moose And The Grey Goose
Back to the EggReception Getting Closer We're Open Tonight Spin It On Again And Again And Again Old Siam, Sir Arrow Through Me Rockestra Theme To You After The Ball / Million Miles Winter Rose / Love Awake The Broadcast So Glad To See You Here Baby's Request
McCartney IIComing UpTemporary SecretaryOn The WayWaterfallsNobody KnowsFront ParlourSummer's Day SongFrozen JapBogey MusicDarkroomOne Of These Days
Tug of WarTug Of WarTake It AwaySomebody Who CaresWhat's That You're Doing?Here TodayBallroom DancingThe Pound Is SinkingWanderlustGet ItBe What You See (Link)Dress Me Up As A RobberEbony And Ivory
Pipes of PeacePipes Of PeaceSay Say SayThe Other MeKeep Under CoverSo BadThe ManSweetest Little ShowAverage PersonHey HeyTug Of PeaceThrough Our Love
Give My Regards to Broad StreetNo More Lonely Nights (Ballad)Good Day SunshineCorridor MusicYesterdayHere, There And EverywhereWanderlustBallroom DancingSilly Love SongsSilly Love Songs (Reprise)Not Such A Bad BoyNo ValuesNo More Lonely Nights (Ballad Reprise)For No-OneEleanor RigbyEleanor's DreamLong And Winding RoadNo More Lonely Nights (Playout Version)
Press to PlayStrangleholdGood Times Coming / Feel The SunTalk More TalkFootprintsOnly Love RemainsPressPretty Little HeadMove Over BuskerAngryHowever Absurd
Flowers in the DirtMy Brave FaceRough RideYou Want Her TooDistractionsWe Got MarriedPut It ThereFigure Of EightThis OneDon't Be Careless LoveThat Day Is DoneHow Many PeopleMotor Of LoveOu Est Le Soleil
Off the GroundOff The GroundLooking For ChangesHope Of DeliveranceMistress And MaidI Owe It All To YouBiker Like An IconPeace In The NeighbourhoodGolden Earth GirlThe Lovers That Never WereGet Out Of My WayWinedark Open SeaC'mon People
Flaming PieThe Song We Were SingingThe World TonightIf You WannaSomedaysYoung BoyCalico SkiesFlaming PieHeaven On A SundayUsed To Be BadSouvenirLittle WillowReally Love YouBeautiful NightGreat Day
Run Devil RunBlue Jean BopShe Said YeahAll Shook UpRun Devil RunNo Other BabyLonesome TownTry Not To CryMovie MaggBrown Eyed Handsome ManWhat It IsCoquetteI Got StungHoney HushShake A HandParty
Driving RainLonely RoadFrom A Lover To A FriendShe's Given Up TalkingDriving RainI DoTiny BubbleMagicYour WaySpinning On An AxisAbout YouHeatherBack In The Sunshine AgainYour Loving FlameRiding Into JaipurRinse The Raindrops
Chaos and Creation in the BackyardFine LineHow Kind Of YouJenny WrenAt The MercyFriends To GoEnglish TeaToo Much RainA Certain SoftnessRiding To Vanity FairFollow MePromise To You GirlThis Never Happened BeforeAnywayI've Only Got Two Hands
Memory Almost FullDance TonightEver Present PastSee Your SunshineOnly Mama KnowsYou Tell MeMr BellamyGratitudeVintage ClothesThat Was MeFeet In The CloudsHouse Of WaxThe End Of The EndNod Your Head
Kisses on the BottomI'm Gonna Sit Right Down And Write Myself A LetterHome (When Shadows Fall)It's Only A Paper MoonMore I Cannot Wish YouThe Glory Of LoveWe Three (My Echo, My Shadow And Me)Ac-Cent-Tchu-Ate The PositiveMy ValentineAlwaysMy Very Good Friend The MilkmanBye Bye BlackbirdGet Yourself Another FoolThe Inch WormOnly Our Hearts
NewSave UsAlligatorOn My Way To WorkQueenie EyeEarly DaysNewAppreciateEverybody Out ThereHosannaI Can BetLooking At HerRoadScared
Non-album SinglesAnother DayOh Woman Oh WhyGive Ireland Back to the IrishMary Had a Little LambLittle Woman LoveHi, Hi, HiC MoonLive and Let DieI Lie AroundJunior's FarmSally GWalking in the Park With EloiseBridge Over the River SuiteSeaside WomanB Side to SeasideMull of KintyreGirls' SchoolGoodnight TonightDaytime Nighttime SufferingWonderful ChristmastimeRudolph the Red-Nosed ReggaeWe All Stand TogetherSpies Like UsMy CarnivalFerry Cross the MerseyAbide With MeVo!ceTropic Island Hum(I Want to) Come HomeSimple As ThatIt's Now or NeverHiroshima Sky is Always BlueA Room with a ViewNovaMaybe BabyI'm Partial to Your AbracadabraVanilla SkyI Want to Walk You HomeMeat Free MondayIt's So EasyIn the Blink of an Eye
With Other Artists
Mike McGear - McGear (producer, backing vocals, bass, guitar, keyboards)Sea BreezesWhat Do We Really Know?NortonLeave ItHave You Got Problems?The CasketRainbow LadySimply Love YouGivin' Grease a RideThe Man Who Found God on the MoonDnce the DoSweet Baby
Percy "Thrills" Thrillington - Thrillington (producer)Too Many People 3 Legs Ram On Dear Boy Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey Smile Away Heart Of The Country Monkberry Moon Delight Eat At Home Long Haired Lady Back Seat Of My Car
Denny Laine - Holly Days (producer, all instruments)HeartbeatMoondreamsRave OnI'm Gonna Love You TooFool's ParadiseLonesome Tears (Instrumental)It's So Easy"/"Listen to Me" Look at MeTake Your TimeI'm Looking for Someone to Love (Instrumental)
Linda McCartney - Wide Prairie (producer, multiple instruments)Wide PrarieNew OrleansThe White Coated ManLove's Full GloryI Got UpThe Light Comes from WithinMister SandmanSeaside WomanOriental NightfishEndless DaysPosion IvyCowB-Sie to SeasideSugartimeCook of the HouseAppaloosa
The Fireman - Strawberry Oceans Ships ForestTranspiritual StompTrans Lunar RisingTranscrystalinePure TranceArizona LightCeltic StompStrawberries Oceans Ships Forest4 4 4Sunrise Mix
The Fireman - RushesWatercolour GuitarsPalo VerdeAuravedaFluidAppletree Cinnabar AmberBison7 a.m.Watercolour Rush
Liverpool Sound CollagePlastic BeetlePeter Blake 2000Real Gone Dub Made in Manifest in the Vortex of the Eternal NowMade UpFree Now
Paul McCartney and Freelance Hellraiser - Twin FreaksReally Love YouLong Haired Lady (Reprise)Rinse the RaindropsDarkroomLive and Let DieTemporary SecretaryWhat's That You're DoingOh Woman, Oh WhyMumboLalulaComing UpMaybe I'm Amazed
The Fireman - Electric ArgumentsNothing Too Much Just Out of SightTwo MagpiesSing the ChangesTravelling LightHighwayLight from Your LighthouseSun Is ShiningDance 'Til We're HighLifelong PassionIs This Love?Lovers in a DreamUniversal Here, Everlasting No
individual tracksVegetables - the Beach Boys (celery)Sing This All Together - The Rolling Stones (backing vocals, percussion)We Love You - The Rolling Stones (backing vocals, percussion)I'm the Urban Spaceman - Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band (producer)Those Were the Days - Mary Hopkin (producer)Carolina in My Mind - James Taylor (bass)Rosetta - the Fourmost (piano)Come and Get It - Badfinger (producer)Rock of All Ages - Badfinger (producer, piano)Carry On Til Tomorrow - Badfinger (producer)Sour Milk Sea - Jackie Lomax (bass)New Day - Jackie Lomax (bass)My Dark Hour - Steve Miller Band (bass, drums, backing vocals)Que Sera, Sera - Mary Hopkin (producer)Night Owl - Carly Simon (backing vovals)Six O'Clock - Ringo Starr (piano, synth, backing vocal)You're Sixteen - Ringo Starr (kazoo)Rock 'n' Roll Music Is Now - James Taylor (backing vocals)Mine for Me - Rod Stewart (backing vocals)Change - Adam Faith (synthesizer)Goodbye - Adam Faith (synthesizer)Never Say Goodbye - Adam Faith (synthesizer)Star Song - Adam Faith (backing vocals)Liverpool Lou - The Scaffold (producer)Ten Years After on Strawberry Jam - the Scaffold (producer, bass, keyboards)Pure Gold - Ringo Starr (backing vocals)One of Those Days in England - Roy Harper (backing vocals)Send Me the Heart - Denny Laine (bass, keyboards, guitar, percussion, vocals)Weep for Love - Denny Laine (bass, keyboards, guitar, percussion, vocals)Maisie - Laurence Juber (bass)Veronica - Elvis Costello (bass)...This Town... - Elvis Costello (bass)Yvonne's the One - 10cc (guitar)Code of Silence - 10cc (strings, electric piano, frogs, crickets, percussion)The Ballad of Skeletons - Allen Ginsberg (guitar, drums, organ, maracas)La De Da - Ringo Starr (bass, backing vocals)I Was Walking - Ringo Starr (bass, backing vocals)What in the World - Ringo Starr (bass, backing vocals)Receptacle for the Respectable - Super Furry Animals (celery)Hurt Myself - Rusty Anderson (bass, backing vocals, guitar)A Time to Love - Stevie Wonder (guitar)Boots and Sand - Yusuf Islam (backing vocals)Peace Dream - Ringo Starr (bass)Walk With You - Ringo Starr (backing vocals)We're on the Road Again - Ringo Starr (backing vocals)Show Me the Way - Ringo Starr (bass)Sunday Rain - Foo Fighters (drums)Songbird in a Cage - Charlotte Gainsbourg (guitar, piano, drums)The Girl is Mine - Michael Jackson (vocals)New Moon Over Jamaica - Johnny Cash (vocals)A Friend Like You - Brian Wilson (vocals)The Very Thought of You - Tony Bennet (vocals)Bring It On Home to Me - George Benson and Al Jarreau (vocals)Heal the Pain - George Michael (vocals)My Soul - Nitin Sawhney (vocals)I'm In Love Again - Klaus Voorman (piano, vocals)All of Me - Eric Clapton (vocals, bass)Out of Sight - the Bloody Beetroots (?)Only One - Kanye West (vocals, piano)FourFiveSeconds - Kanye West and Rihanna (vocals, instruments)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
I've decided to leave out live recordings. (I know I already listed Lennon's Sometime in NYC tracks, but those are part of a bigger studio album so whatever. I also included the Concert for Bangladesh, which I would withdraw on second though but idk if someone really wants to vote for those tracks for some reason go ahead. I just didn't want to list all of the additional live albums, particularly Macca, who's got a bunch)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:41 (seven years ago)
really, really enjoying "In the Park", from Wonderwall Music, especially the section near the end that sounds like Laraaji.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
"Ski-ing" is my jam from that one but I am looking forward to revisiting the whole thing
― sleeve, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
Goodbye - Adam Faith (synthesizer)Never Say Goodbye - Adam Faith (synthesizer)
??
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzWqfZo8fY
i love this slowcore take on "Many Rivers to Cross". Nilsson is such a great singer, he shares that raspy rock quality that Lennon has too. they sound great together.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)
There's a lot of tracks missing from that McCartney list ... a lot of B-sides and offcuts like 'Rainclouds', 'Big Boys Bickering' etc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)
It's a crap song, but 'Freedom' is missing... 'Love Comes Tumbling Down' is missing... 'Cosmically Conscious' ... this is just off the top of my head.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:11 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark
the soundtrack is really great and i like the movie as well. the psychedelic art collective The Fool was in the movie as well, and they have a bit of a history of collaboration with the Beatles. they designed the insert sleeve for Sgt. Pepper and they were commissioned to paint guitars and cars and all sorts of things for the band. The Fool has a record of their own from 1968 that is pretty cool in a poppy Incredible String Band sort of way.
https://www.discogs.com/The-Fool-The-Fool/release/3647799
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)
mccartney's live albums are all p much garbage. wings over america is kind of a decent one-stop shop if you want a lot of that period of wings in slightly less tight and polished performances. it is really only noteworthy for spawning the actual hit version of "Maybe I'm Amazed," which is terrific. you also get denny laine doing "richard cory," some forgettable beatles covers, and the "keeps the live crowd grooving but not worth putting on an album" number "soily." the cat in the satin trousers said it's oily. see also "the mess" (live cut b-side to "my love"). actually... imma go head and type up some mccartney b-sides and released-on-the-expensive-bonus-import-album cuts. a couple of these really are ballot-worthy, trust me!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)
RINGO STARR
Sentimental JourneyBeaucoups of BluesRingoGoodnight ViennaRingo's RotogravureRingo the 4thBad BoyStop and Smell the RosesOld WaveTime Takes TimeVertical ManI Wanna Be Santa ClausRingo RamaChoose LoveLiverpoolY NotRingo 2012Postcards from ParadiseGive More Love
non-album singlesCoochy CoochyEarly 1970BlindmanDown and OutThe Official BBC Children In Need MedleyYou Never KnowI Wish I Was a Powerpuff GirlWhen You Wish Upon a Star
Scouse the Mouse (vocals)Living in a Pet ShopScouse's DreamRunning FreeBoat RideScouse the MouseI Know a PlaceS.O.S.A Mouse Like Me
Wonderwall Music - George Harrison (drums)MicrobesRed Lady TooTabla and PakavajIn the ParkDrilling a HomeGuru VandanaGreasy LegsSki-ingGat KirwaniDream SceneParty SeacombeLove SceneCryingCowboy MusicFantasy SequinsOn the BedGlass BoxWonderwall to Be HereSinging Om
Is This What You Want? - Jackie Lomax (drums)Speak To Me Is This What You Want? How Can You Say Goodbye Sunset Sour Milk Sea Fall Inside Your Eyes Little Yellow Pills Take My Word The Eagle Laughs At You Baby You're A Lover You've Got Me Thinking I Just Don't Know
Doris Troy - Doris Troy (drums)Ain't That Cute Special Care Give Me Back My Dynamite You Tore Me Up Inside Games People Play Gonna Get My Baby Back I've Got To Be Strong Hurry So Far Exactly Like You You Give Me Joy Joy Don't Call Me No More Jacob's Ladder
John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band (drums)MotherHold OnI Found OutWorking Class HeroIsolationRememberLoveWell Well WellLook at MeGodMy Mummy's Dead
Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band (drums)WhyWhy NotGreenfield Morning I Pushed an Empty Baby Carriage All Over the CityAOSTouch MePaper Shoes
All Things Must Pass - George Harrison (drums)I'd Have You AnytimeMy Sweet LordWah-WahIsn't It a Pity (Version One)What Is LifeIf Not for YouBehind That Locked DoorLet It DownRun of the MillBeware of DarknessApple ScruffsBallad of Sir Frankie Crisp (Let It Roll)Awaiting on You AllAll Things Must PassI Dig LoveArt of DyingIsn't It a Pity (Version Two)Hear Me LordOut of the BlueIt's Johnny's BirthdayPlug Me InI Remember JeepThanks for the PepperoniI Live for You
Leon Russell - Leon Russell (drums)A Song For You Dixie LullabyI Put A Spell On YouShoot Out On The PlantationHummingbirdDelta LadyPrince Of PeaceOld MastersGive Peace A ChanceHurtsome BodyPisces Apple LadyRoll Away The Stone
Bobby Keys - Bobby Keys (drums)Steal From A KingSmokefootBootlegAltar RockKey WestCommand PerformanceCrispy DuckSand & Foam
Son of Schmilsson - Harry Nilsson (drums)Take 54Remember (Christmas)JoyTurn on Your RadioYou're Breakin' My HeartSpacemanThe Lottery SongAt My Front DoorAmbushI'd Rather Be DeadThe Most Beautiful World in the WorldCampo de EncinoIt Had To Be You
Living in the Material World – George Harrison (drums)Give Me Love (Give Me Peace on Earth)Sue Me, Sue You BluesThe Light That Has Lighted the WorldDon't Let Me Wait Too LongWho Can See ItLiving in the Material WorldThe Lord Loves the One (That Loves the Lord)Be Here NowTry Some, Buy SomeThe Day the World Gets 'RoundThat Is AllDeep BlueMiss O'Dell
Pussy Cats - Harry Nilsson (drums)Many Rivers to CrossSubterranean Homesick BluesDon't Forget MeAll My LifeOld Forgotten SoldierSave the Last Dance for MeMucho Mungo/Mt. ElgaLoop De LoopBlack SailsRock Around the ClockDown by the SeaThe Flying Saucer SongTurn Out the LightSave the Last Dance for Me
Shankar Family & Friends – Ravi Shankar(drums)I Am Missing YouKahān Gayelavā Shyām SalonéSupané Mé Āyé Preetam SainyāI Am Missing You (Reprise)Jaya Jagadish HaréOverture Festivity & Joy Love-Dance Ecstasy Lust (Rāga Chandrakauns) Dispute & Violence Disillusionment & Frustration Despair & Sorrow (Rāga Marwā) Awakening Peace & Hope (Rāga Bhatiyār)
Dark Horse – George Harrison (drums)Hari's on Tour (Express)Simply ShadySo SadBye Bye, LoveMāya LoveDing Dong, Ding DongDark HorseFar East ManIt Is 'He' (Jai Sri Krishna)I Don't Care Anymore
Duit On Mon Dei – Harry Nilsson (drums)Jesus Christ You're TallIt's a Jungle Out ThereDown by the SeaKojak ColumboEasier for MeTurn Out the LightSalmon FallsPuget SoundWhat's Your Sign HomeGood for Go
I’m In You – Peter Frampton (drums)I'm in You(Putting My) Heart on the LineSt. Thomas (Don't You Know How I Feel)Won't You Be My FriendYou Don't Have to WorryTried to LoveRocky's Hot Club(I'm a) Road RunnerSigned, Sealed, Delivered (I'm Yours)
Flash Harry – Harry Nilsson (drums)HarryCheek to CheekBest MoveOld Dirt RoadI Don’t Need YouRainI’ve Got It!It’s So EasyHow Long Can Disco OnBright Side of LifeFeetLeave the Rest to MollyShe Drifted Away
Pipes of Peace – Paul McCartney (drums)Pipes Of PeaceSay Say SayThe Other MeKeep Under CoverSo BadThe ManSweetest Little ShowAverage PersonHey HeyTug Of PeaceThrough Our Love
Give My Regards to Broad Street – Paul McCartney (drums)No More Lonely Nights (Ballad)Good Day SunshineCorridor MusicYesterdayHere, There And EverywhereWanderlustBallroom DancingSilly Love SongsSilly Love Songs (Reprise)Not Such A Bad BoyNo ValuesNo More Lonely Nights (Ballad Reprise)For No-OneEleanor RigbyEleanor's DreamLong And Winding RoadNo More Lonely Nights (Playout Version)
Cloud Nine – George Harrison (drums)Cloud 9That's What It TakesFish on the SandJust for TodayThis Is LoveWhen We Was FabDevil's RadioSomeplace ElseWreck of the HesperusBreath Away from HeavenGot My Mind Set on YouShanghai SurpriseZig Zag
A Sideman’s Journey – Klaus Voorman (drums)I’m in Love AgainBlue Suede ShoesAll Things Must PassHave You Seen My BabyMy Sweet LordThe Mighty QuinnShort PeopleThe Day the World Gets RoundSo FarYou’re SixteenSuch a Night
Connected – Gary Wright (drums) Satisfied Get Your Hands Up Under Your Spell No One Does It Better Can't Find No Mercy Life's Not A Battlefield Gimme Some Time Connected Kirra LayneYou Make Me Feel Better
Give Til It’s Gone – Ben Harper (drums)Don't Give Up On Me Now I Will Not Be Broken Rock N' Roll Is Free Feel Love Spilling Faith Get There From Here Clearly Severely Pray That Our Love Sees The Dawn Waiting On A Sign Dirty Little Lover Do It For You, Do It For Us
Individual tracksAct Naturally - Buck Owens (vocals and drums)I Ain't Superstitious - Howlin' Wolf (drums)To a Flame - Stephen Stills (drums)We Are Not Helpless - Stephen Stills (drums)Don’t Worry Kyoko - Yoko Ono (drums)Ghetto Woman - B.B. King (drums)Wet Hayshark - B.B. King (drums)Part Time Love - B.B. King (drums)Alright - Peter Frampton (drums)The Lodger - Peter Frampton(drums)Sweet Music - Lon & Derek Van Eaton (drums)Another Thought - Lon & Derek Van Eaton (drums)Fiddle About - London Symphony Orchestra (drums)Tommy’s Holiday Camp - London Symphony Orchestra (drums)Do Me Good - Keith Moon (vocals, drums)Move Over Ms. L – Keith Moon (vocals, drums)Naked Man – Keith Moon (vocals, drums)Real Emotion – Keith Moon (vocals, drums)Solid Gold – Keith Moon (vocals, drums)Together – Keith Moon (vocals, drums)Together Rap - Keith Moon (vocals, drums)More and More – Carly Simon (drums)Stephen Stills – As I Come of Age (drums)Vera Lynn – Don’t You Remember When (drums)Zindy Lou – the Manhattan Transfer (drums)Band of Steel – Guthrie Thomas (vocals and drums)Good Days Are Rollin’ In – Guthrie Thomas (drums)Ramblin’ Cocaine Blues – Guthrie Thomas (drums)Men’s Room, L.A. – Kinky Friedman (drums)Born in Captivity – The Alpha Band (drums)You Angel You – The Alpha Band (drums)Good News – Attitudes (drums)Ham ‘n’ Eggs – Lonnie Donnegan (drums)Have a Drink On Me – Lonnie Donnegan (drums)Hold On – Ian McLagan (drums)Heart of Mine – Bob Dylan (drums)All Those Years Ago – George Harrison (drums)Take It Away – Paul McCartney (drums)California Calling – The Beach Boys (drums)Sun City – Artists United Against Apartheid (drums)You Know It Makes Sense – the Anti-Heroin Project (drums)Walkin’ Nerve – Nils Lofgren (drums)Gun and Run – Nils Lofgren (drums)To Find a Friend – Tom Petty (drums)Lay Down Your Arms – duet w Stevie NicksHung Up and Overdue – Tom Petty (drums)Honey Don’t – Carl Perkins (drums and vocals)Really Love You – Paul McCartney (drums and backing vocals)Beautiful Night – Paul McCartney (drums and backing vocals)Moment in Paradise – ELO (drums)Easy Money – ELO (drums)Cuz You Do – Liam Lynch (drums)Try Me – Liam Lyndh (drums)Boys – Jools Holland (vocals)My Little Grass Shack – duet with Leon RedboneMake Believe – Platinum Weird (drums)If You Believe in Love – Platinum Weird (drums)Roll Over Beethoven – Jerry Lee Lewis (vocals)Coochy Coochy – Ray Wylie Hubbard (percussion, guitar, vocals)Lucky That Way – Joe Walsh (drums)Funk 50 – Joe Walsh (drums)One Way Street – Jon Stevens (drums)Cut You Loose - Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band (drums, vocals)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
I have no doubt I missed a bunch of McCartney b-sides Turrican, feel free to list them all
(god yr insufferable btw)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)
I think these are all the non-album Macca cuts I missed
I Want to Walk You HomeMeat Free MondayIt's So EasyIn the Blink of an EyeBridge on the River SuiteCheck My MachineSecret FriendI’ll Give You A RingRaincloudsOde to a Koala BearHanglideBack on My FeetOnce Upon a Time Long AgoThe First StoneFlying to My HomeGood SignI Wanna CryI’m in Love AgainLoveliest ThingBig Boys BickeringKicked Around No MoreLong Leather CoatCosmically ConsciousDown to the RiverI Can’t ImagineKeep Coming Back to LoveSoggy NoodleStyle StyleSweet Sweet MemoriesBroomstickLooking For YouLove Come Tumbling DownSame LoveFabulousAll You Horse Riders/Blue SwayBogey WobbleDon’t Cry BabyMr H Atom / You Know I'll Get You BabySuicideWoman KindThe Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire)Out of SightHope for the Future
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
christ he's made a lot of garbage
I'm insufferable because I pointed your list wasn't complete? Okay! No doubt there's several McCartney tracks that aren't very good, but the best stuff is worth it. Same goes for Lennon and Harrison.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
I listened to Liverpool Sound Collage a few years but had forgotten about it -- glad to have the reminder, this is good.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)
Super Furry Animals were heavily involved with that, iirc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)
mccartney's live albums are all p much garbage
i listened to Venus And Mars for the first time recently and got Monster hives: a big-sounding studio record made almost solely for the functional purpose of propping up a worldwide tour extravaganza that sounds totally hollow outside that context (the title squib is nice though)
― sciatica, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)
I disagree. Venus and Mars is top tier Wings record and a worthy follow-up to Band on the Run. Wings at the Speed of Sound (the clue is in the title) was definitely made as an album to justify the tour, and it shows in places, although half the record is classic Wings.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
nice work shakey! cross-checking my list against yours, i might have just a few goodies left to add. the big miss is probably Helen Wheels which was only belatedly added to Band on the Run.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)
oh that is weird! That should definitely be on there. I wonder if I deleted it by mistake or something
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
I must've been looking at a British track listing or something?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)
It wasn't on the UK version of Band on the Run, so it's possible!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
Okay - I think this really is the last of it, though my knowledge of 90s-00s b-sides and stuff is pretty hazy. I put *** next to ones I think people who like McCartney solo stuff but haven't gone beyond the albums should definitely check out. In general I do think he drew some kind of line between "good enough for album filler" and "not" - - - a lot of these have incredible riffs or main hooks but it's obvious they're missing some element (a bridge, a chord change) that would really make them special.
PAUL MCCARTNEY MISCELLANEY/MOP-UP
1970s
1882A Love For You ***Best FriendBoil Crisis ***Country Dreamer ***Did We Meet Somewhere Before?Gotta Sing, Gotta DanceThe Great Cock and Seagull RaceHelen Wheels ***Henry’s BluesHey Diddle ***I Would Only SmileJazz StreetLunch Box – Odd SoxMama’s Little GirlNight OutRobber’s Ball ***Rode All Night ***Same Time Next Year ***Soily ***Sunshine SometimeThank You DarlingThe MessTragedy ***Waterspout *** Zoo Gang (Theme) ***
1980s
Atlantic OceanBlue SwayBogey WobbleChristian BopDon't Break the PromiseHanglideI Love This HouseIt’s Not TrueLindiana ***Love MixMy Big DayOn The WayP.S. Love Me Do (the nadir)Return to Pepperland ***Squid ***Tough on a TightropeTwenty Fine Fingers aka Twenty-Five FingersTwice in a LifetimeWrite AwayYvonne ***
1990s
All My Trials (trad.)
2000s
I’m Partial To Your Abracadabra (Dury)Maybe Baby (Holly)Summer of ‘59 ***
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)
Linda McCartney - Wide Prairie
"i got up" and "the light comes from within" are both fun and would have worked on "white album, vol. 3" if they had stayed together and got around to doing that.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:10 (seven years ago)
Yeah, I think that's pretty much everything - I can't think of anything else not yet mentioned. There could well be, though!
(xpost)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
Good luck, guys.
― Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
Doc are those all (generally speaking) non-album tracks?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)
i wonder how long it would take to listen to all of these tracks. i recently had a bunch of long-distance drives i was doing and i ended up listening to every beatles album in order over the course of a few days -- tbh it was kind of startling to realize how little time it took to listen to everything they recorded. (confirmed my old suspicion that revolver is their finest hour.) feel like i'll at least need to try to listen to all the major stuff here to even begin to know what to vote for.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:44 (seven years ago)
there's some tracks on this posthumous lennon release that i don't think got released anywhere else -- side 2 is all walls & bridges outtakes but i think side 1 might qualify for the poll:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menlove_Ave.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:47 (seven years ago)
huh yeah I got some of those because I think they appeared on other reissues, but was missing:
Here We Go Again (I don't think I've ever heard this? off to youtube...)Rock 'n' Roll People
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)
this is actually p interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4_6P6Z_acw
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
Re: my Macca list: a decent number are unreleased, bootleg-only cuts that I meant to keep separate but got tangled in somewhere along the way, maybe once I saw that you were counting never-released things like "Suicide." "Soily" and "The Mess" were live only, but got released on Wings Over America and as the b-side to "My Love," respectively. "P.S. Love Me Do" was concert warm-up background music on some godforsaken tour, which I believe was also the principal purpose of the later Twin Freaks material (obviously better by orders of magnitude). Then there's a sprinkling of b-sides and/or things that were unreleased until they showed up on bonus editions of the albums (e.g. the "Paul McCartney Collection" CDs in the early 90s, and the more recent remasters which rescued a bunch of the Ram through Red Rose Speedway material). Several are soundtrack cuts or attempted soundtrack cuts - "Did We Meet Somewhere Before?" for example, is in Rock 'n' Roll High School (!) but didn't make it to the soundtrack LP. "Gotta Sing, Gotta Dance" is from a TV special; "Zoo Gang" was a TV show theme. A bunch of the 80s ones were from the abortive sessions between Press and Flowers in the Dirt - some of those trickled out as 90s B-sides, for example "Squid" which is a really pretty instrumental.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)
Freelance Hellraiser toured as opening DJ with Paul, but I don't think Twin Freaks was conceived for him to just put on and have a smoke
― WilliamC, Wednesday, May 16, 2018 5:13 AM (one hour ago)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, May 16, 2018 5:20 AM (one hour ago)
one track is SFA remixing unreleased Beatles sessions, and IIUC the last track is Paul remixing what they turned in
also IIUC the Real Gone Dub track is a Youth solo joint, if anyone recompiles a mega-Macca list for voting
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
I noticed that about the Real Gone Dub track but left it in anyway in case Macca muttered over it at some point or something
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)
I better see fuckin' "Press" on some lists!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:16 (seven years ago)
my ballot is going to be so boring it'll seem like an AI made it
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)
tragically, the "Paul Mcartney" appearing on Matt Berry's Rain Came Down is a convincing simulacrum played by Peter Serafinowicz, but he should be eligible anyway
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:23 (seven years ago)
tbh with some of these solo guest appearances things it was really hard to determine which tracks the ex-Beatle actually contributed to. Some of those albums Ringo played on for example (Nilsson, etc.), he's not the only drummer on the album, but it's basically impossible to determine which tracks are him and which are, say, Jim Keltner.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)
^^It's really Bernard Purdie
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)
heh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:32 (seven years ago)
does anyone want to volunteer to do images for this poll? I have no idea what to do
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)
it's weird, but this album is def better than George's own 1974 album (Dark Horse) and it's almost all him + Keltner, Voorman etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvr9Y75SUVk&list=PLkJpdntodN-7gmwVIBgK77nvIg_pLE3_q&index=0
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:01 (seven years ago)
what's the album? the link is broken, at least for me.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:11 (seven years ago)
just drafted, read back over, and saved to a .txt a truly dorky twenty-two song spree of blurbs on mccartney obscurities. best left unposted? a 100-song ballot does give one some room, but in a discography with "maybe i'm amazed," "jet," "no more lonely nights," "with a little luck," "say say say," and even "my brave face," "no more lonely nights," "take it away," "junior's farm," etc., etc., does anyone really need to add "morse moose and the grey goose" to their pre-ballot listening?
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)
Splinter "The Place I Love". Splinter is just two vocalists/songwriters that George signed to his label. He produced the whole thing, with his usual cadre of sidemen (Keltner, Voorman, Billy Preston, Willie Weeks, etc.)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)
best left unposted?
if not here, where
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)
rec.music.beatles in 1998
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:34 (seven years ago)
"No More Lonely Nights" = one of Paul's very best, with Gilmour's best session solo.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:34 (seven years ago)
but yeah maybe i'll wait til after your "hi hi hi"s and such have gotten their due. wouldn't want someone going "i keep hearing this paul mccartney is supposed to be a big deal, let me check out doctor casino's recommendations" and being instantly turned away by the likes of "mumbo" and "ode to a koala bear."
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:35 (seven years ago)
Hey Mumbo's kinda cool, imo. Also so far as yr list of obscurities goes A Love for You might make my ballot, if I make one. V worth hearing, tho Cold Cuts is mostly pretty middling.
― albvivertine, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:43 (seven years ago)
Doctor Casino please post your annotated list, we can handle it, I promise :)
― sciatica, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:43 (seven years ago)
Oh yeah, cosign on that
― albvivertine, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)
"secret friend" is so good, the b-side of 'temporary secretary' (which i've never been able to get into). 'one of these days' , also from the mccartney II sessions, reminds me a bit of simon and garfunkel. they'll both be high up on my ballot, i think.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:04 (seven years ago)
"Temporary Secretary" would've been a menace if it had been a bigger hit. I only had to endure it at indie disco bars in the early '00s.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:13 (seven years ago)
I like "Somedays" off Flaming Pie, the first of several times where McCartney has addressed in song some of the negative aspects of fame and wealth: "Don't ask me where I found that picture on the wall/How much it cost or what it's worth."
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:53 (seven years ago)
Cool Baroque oboe part
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:54 (seven years ago)
I don’t think I’ve heard 85% of all of these
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)
Temporary Secretary is so irritating. Dude you just made Check My Machine, but that doesn't make the album?
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:57 (seven years ago)
each anti-"temporary secretary" post just bumps it up a slot on my ballot
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 03:46 (seven years ago)
Five tracks from George Harrison possibly? I've got "Blow Away," "Love Comes to Everyone," "Faster," "If You Believe," and "Soft Touch."
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 03:49 (seven years ago)
We haven't accounted yet for the songs included on the musical discs that accompanied these books:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_by_George_Harrisonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_by_George_Harrison_2
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 04:03 (seven years ago)
And start up the cement mixer, I'm probably going with every song on Side One of Gone Troppo.
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 04:08 (seven years ago)
okay so here are some less-heralded McCartney songs I am irredeemably fond of, and might conceivably vote for, in chronological order. 100 tracks gives one some room for some of the detours, odd genre experiments, four-track inside jokes, and inexplicable stoner fantasies that make his bloated discography so charming for die-hards, and so irritating for those who wish he would just take the extra week's work to write less stupid lyrics to his best melodies.
i'm assuming that everyone knows mccartney, ram, band on the run, mccartney ii, tug of war, flowers in the dirt, and his numerous smash hit singles. if not, those should really be the focus of any catchup ballot-listening, with ram and band on the run at the head. this is for people who just can't muster sifting through the rest of that massive discography. would love to see other people's faves!
Mumbo all i really need from Wild Life and an encapsulation of why that album completely flopped and was hated - sloppy, pointless, basically lyric-less warmup exercises with a not particularly tight band. it's great!
Big Barn Bed; Getting Closer the "Mumbos" of Red Rose Speedway and Back to the Egg, respectively. the bands are tighter, letting the idiosyncratic, weird, totally hollow and totally appealing lyrics glide right in on enthusiastic deliveries. "SAY YOU DON'T LOVE HIM - - My salamander!" may be the best opening line to any solo McCartney album.
Medley (Hold Me Tight, Lazy Dynamite, Hands Of Love, Power Cut) this album is 42 minutes long and closes with an eleven-minute medley with maybe twenty-five unique lines in the lyrics; a pure exercise in melody and arranging, it's no "Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey" but I just love this guy putting this much energy and enthusiasm into this thing and it still feels like it's arrived somewhere when we get to the endless go-rounds of "Baby I love you so" as the other melodic motifs weave their way back in.
Single Pigeon got love upthread - it's terrific, this one incredibly focused little piano gem, in the same album of sprawling Technicolor nonsense that includes "Big Barn Bed," the medley, and a preposterous instrumental titled "Loup (1st Indian on the Moon)" which I'm surprised Jamiroquai never tried to arrange for the digeridoo.
Magneto & Titanium Man whiz! bang! comics aren't just for kids anymore! It won Geir's poll of Venus & Mars! of the half-dozen or so mccartney songs i got through in my abortive attempt at a double-album of covers, this was the most fun to learn and satisfying to record. "and the CRIM-SON DY-NA-MOooo!"
I've Had Enough and Name and Address late-70s attempts at glam-stomp and Elvis. macca was a man out of time and somehow everything comes through his filter just slightly wrong and weird. Catchy!
Waterspout a sweet little drum machine number from late in the Wings era that still sounds to me like it belongs on McCartney II. The narrative is perhaps thin but something about the warbly sound and the opening line "Daddy loved a dancer" makes it feel more substantial to me, like this is an old man telling the story of how he met his bride or something.
Morse Moose and the Grey Goose maybe the most "Paul McCartney album track" song title ever. all the theatrics and drama of a "Live and Let Die," surrounding what appears to be the story of a deep-sea moose struggling to use Morse code with his hooves. if it was played for wackiness it'd be death on record but McCartney seems completely unaware that this is a stupid idea for a song, and gives it his all. it rules.
Boil Crisis a truly odd attempt at ... post-punk? I think? Most of the versions online have terrible sound but there's a Youtube of the "Unsurpassed Rudeness" bootleg gets it. The kind of bizarre "Famous Groupies" stoner narrative lyrics that got rarer going into the 80s. "One night in the life of a kid named Sid, he was scoring with a broad in a pyramid." If this was a Tall Dwarves or Elephant 6 track or something people would be all over it. See also "Give Us A Chord, Roy."
Arrow Through Me this has gotten a lot of ILM love over the years so just wanted to make sure it got a shout-out here. It gets compared to Steely Dan, which I don't quite hear but I will concede it is surely the yachtiest Beatles song. wish he'd done a whole album like this.
Baby's Request his best ever "old-timey" number? what a tune on this one.
I'll Give You A Ring cheery, bouncy b-side to "Take It Away," and your basic charming trifle, feeling very much like just him and a four-track (though hardly lo-fi); if it were arranged with drum machine and synths it'd be very comfortable on McCartney II but the little touches of "I love pre-rock pop" kind of mark the classicist adult-contemporary turn he was making at this point.
Ode To A Koala Bear b-side to "Say Say Say" and sort of epitomzies Paul's strengths and weaknesses by this point: lovely, singable melody, but the four-track homemade tracks are devolving to just bashing out the chords to hold together a demo before he loses interest and wanders onto something else. there are so many 80s Paul tracks like this. but this also has that spark of weirdness in choosing a koala bear as the central metaphor, deflating (or, if you're less tolerant of all this, spoiling) what could have been a serious ballad of devotion. like, he doesn't sing "i will walk with you to the end of the passage" like this is supposed to be a silly throwaway! it is also easy to hear the refrain as "my little koala nightmare" and i've always liked that.
Pretty Little Head - Best thing on Press to Play besides "Press" and for real his last great "wtf" lyrics. hillsmen! hillsmen!
Put It There beautiful and well-focused father-son fable. if some of these others feel like shapless non-ideas, this (like "baby's request") is a testament to the songcraft he continued to have up his sleeve. avoid the music video, it's a different take/mix and the vocal feels muggy.
Loveliest Thing B-side to "Figure of Eight" that should have closed Flowers in the Dirt (as it did the expanded 1993 CD). except when the louder drums kick in for the chorus, an unforced-feeling would-be piano-bar staple.
Hope of Deliverance okay this was a decent-sized hit but I feel like it's on nobody's radar and it's reeeeeeeeeal fuckin' catchy.
Honey Hush, No Other Baby, and Movie Magg highlights of Run Devil Run, the quickie rock covers album recorded while he was grieving for Linda. boomer throwback albums like this are a dime a dozen but he had a good band and his singing was more focused and motivated than it'd been in years, even on the better Flaming Pie cuts.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 04:14 (seven years ago)
this is for people who just can't muster sifting through the rest of that massive discography.
this is mostly me, although i'm doing my best to give each album at least one listen in the next few weeks. i'll give more attention to tracks you highlighted!
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 04:18 (seven years ago)
A couple on there I'd hesitated on, but you're right for sure on "Big Barn Bed" and I don't know why I wouldn't include "Mumbo." "Morse Moose" I will revisit.
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 04:22 (seven years ago)
Shout out, though, to "Tomorrow," as my favorite from Wild Life.
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)
oh man
SIDE A SAY SAY SAYSIDE B ODE TO A KOALA BEAR
is still the funniest thing ever
the "You Really Got A Hold On Me" melody in the first line in particular, it really sounds like he was so stoned he started singing a different song. he doesn't repeat it either iirc
― sciatica, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 04:53 (seven years ago)
I'm rather glad I picked up vg copies of Wild Life, Ram and The Sound of the Sand (David Thomas, v weirdly) from the same op shop 20 years ago
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 05:30 (seven years ago)
There's only five songs on Casino's list that I'd consider voting for! Not gonna say which ones...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 06:25 (seven years ago)
Big Barn Bed has my vote already!
― Darin, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 06:40 (seven years ago)
Well obv Mumbo
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 06:44 (seven years ago)
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 06:56 (seven years ago)
'Mumbo' is terrible - there's some underrated stuff on Wild Life, though. 'Bip Bop' is terrible also.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:22 (seven years ago)
I'm with you on "Hope of Deliverance" -- just a giant arc of a lovely melody. And when a pal and I heard "Arrow Through Me" in early 2007 we thought, "Man, imagine if a hip hop producer sampled it..." Erykah Badu did three years later
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 10:20 (seven years ago)
Yeah for Wild Life the real keepers are Some People Never Know and Tomorrow.
― ColinO, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 10:46 (seven years ago)
Agreed about "Hope of Deliverance". I wonder why it's not on his "Pure McCartney" comilation (not even on the 67 tracks deluxe version !)
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 10:57 (seven years ago)
Yeah for Wild Life the real keepers are Some People Never Know and Tomorrow.― ColinO, Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:46 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ColinO, Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:46 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup, completely agree!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 12:12 (seven years ago)
lol I almost presented it as Mumbo *and* Bip Bop. wish the whole album was more like those. "Hey Diddle" would slot in well with those. Just a whole album of a novice band finding a single hook and a chord progression that feels good and running through it over and over.Usually Paul had much more of a filter for that kind of thing - like you can tell he knew that "A Love For You" sounded incredible but that as a *song* it was sort of shapeless compared to the other Ram material - could be two minutes, could be eight. With the Wild Life stuff, even more than the ostensibly dgaf home-grown debut, it's like he just lets the tape run and there's the album.idk how many of my above list *I'll* vote for once I have all the stone-cold classics locked in, but definitely a few...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:57 (seven years ago)
Agreed on both of these, I quite like Love Is Strange as well.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 14:20 (seven years ago)
I thought the real keeper off Wild Life was Dear Friend, I'm a sucker for songs Paul and John write about each other tho
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),
i didn't know about the badu connection til now! "arrow through me" came on (listening to Pure McCartney to try to brush up on the hits) and i was deeply confused for a second. "gone baby, don't be long" has been one of my most played songs this year, and i had no idea it sampled wings!
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)
here's a deep Ringo cut someone already voted for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdjA1UeR-SQ
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)
also just realized I left the tracklistings off of Ringo's albums, will fix shortly
Yay!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:22 (seven years ago)
Sentimental JourneySentimental Journey Night And Day Whispering Grass (Don't Tell The Trees) Bye Bye Blackbird I'm A Fool To Care Star Dust Blue, Turning Grey Over You Love Is A Many Splendoured Thing Dream You Always Hurt The One You Love Have I Told You Lately That I Love You Let The Rest Of The World Go By
Beaucoups of BluesBeaucoups Of Blues Love Don't Last Long Fastest Growing Heartache In The West Without Her Women Of The Night I'd Be Talking All The Time $15 Draw Wine, Women And Loud Happy Songs I Wouldn't Have You Any Other Way Loser's Lounge Waiting Silent Homecoming
RingoI'm The Greatest Hold On Photograph Sunshine Life For Me (Sail Away Raymond) You're Sixteen Oh My My Step Lightly Six O'Clock Devil Woman You And Me (Babe)
Goodnight ViennaGoodnight Vienna Occapella Oo-Wee Husbands And Wives Snookeroo All By Myself Call Me No No Song Only You (And You Alone) Easy For Me Goodnight Vienna (Reprise)
Ringo's RotogravureA Dose Of Rock'n Roll Hey Baby Pure Gold Cryin' You Don't Know Me At All Cookin' (In The Kitchen Of Love) I'll Still Love You This Be Called A Song Las Brisas Lady Gaye Spooky Weirdness
Ringo the 4thDrowning In The Sea Of Love Tango All Night Wings Gave It All Up Out On The Streets Can She Do It Like She Dances Sneaking Sally Through The Alley It's No Secret Gypsies In Flight Simple Love Song
Bad BoyWho Needs A Heart Bad Boy Lipstrick Traces (On A Cigarette) Heart On My Sleeve Where Did Our Love Go Hard Times Tonight Monkey See-Monkey Do Old Time Relovin' A Man Like Me
Stop and Smell the RosesPrivate Property Wrack My Brain Drumming Is My Madness Attention Stop And Take The Time To Smell The Roses Dead Giveaway You Belong To Me Sure To Fall Nice Way Back Off Boogaloo
Old WaveIn My Car Hopeless Alibi Be My Baby She's About A Mover I Keep Forgettin' Picture Show Life As Far As We Can Go Everybody's In A Hurry But Me Going Down
Time Takes TimeWeight Of The World Don't Know A Thing About Love Don't Go Where The Road Don't Go Golden Blunders All In The Name Of Love After All These Years I Don't Believe You Runaways In A Heart Beat What Goes Around
Vertical ManOne What In The...World Mindfield King Of Broken Hearts Love Me Do Vertical Man Drift Away I Was Walkin' La De Da Without Understanding I'll Be Fine Anywhere Puppet I'm Yours
I Wanna Be Santa ClausCome On Christmas, Christmas Come On Winter Wonderland I Wanna Be Santa Claus The Little Drummer Boy Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer Christmas Eve The Christmas Dance Christmas Time Is Here Again Blue Christmas Dear Santa White Christmas Pax Um Biscum (Peace Be With You)
Ringo RamaEye To Eye Missouri Loves Company Instant Amnesia Memphis In Your Mind Never Without You Imagine Me There I Think Therefore I Rock N Roll Trippin' On My Own Tears Write One For Me What Love Wants To Be Lover First, Ask Questions Later Elizabeth Reigns English Garden I Really Love Her
Choose LoveFading In Fading Out Give Me Back The Beat Oh My Lord Hard To Be True Some People Wrong All The Time Don't Hang Up Choose Love Me And You Satisfied The Turnaround Free Drinks
Liverpool 8Liverpool 8 Think About You For Love Now That She's Gone Away Gone Are The Days Give It A Try Tuff Love Harry's Song Pasodobles If It's Love That You Want Love Is R U Ready
Y NotFill In The Blanks Peace Dream The Other Side Of Liverpool Walk With You Time Everyone Wins Mystery Of The Night Can't Do It Wrong Y Not Who's Your Daddy
Ringo 2012Anthem Wings Think It Over Samba Rock Island Line Step Lightly Wonderful In Liverpool Slow Down
Postcards from ParadiseRory And The Hurricanes You Bring The Party Down Bridges Postcards From Paradise Right Side Of The Road Not Looking Back Bamboula Island In The Sun Touch And Go Confirmation Let Love Lead
Give More LoveWe're On The Road Again Laughable Show Me The Way Speed Of Sound Standing Still King Of The Kingdom Electricity So Wrong For So Long Shake It Up Give More Love Back Off Boogaloo Don't Pass Me By You Can't Fight Lightning Photograph
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:26 (seven years ago)
and revised non-album tracklist
non-album tracksCoochy CoochyIt Don’t Come EasyEarly 1970Back Off BoogalooBlindmanPhotographDown and OutThe Official BBC Children In Need MedleyYou Never KnowI Wish I Was a Powerpuff GirlWhen You Wish Upon a Star
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
No Scouse Mouse?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
those are on an album
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
(listed under the "with Other Artists" category, since it's a soundtrack featuring other performers and is not a Ringo solo album)
I'm very interested to see how the Ringo stuff fares.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
for the uninitiated approaching my list, the most defensible subset from the POV of songcraft and effort would be something like Single Pigeon, Put It There, Baby's Request, Arrow Through Me, Loveliest Thing, Hope of Deliverance, and No Other Baby... with Waterspout and Magneto as slight glimpses into a weirder world. but if your response to the Macca you've heard is that he's too cloying and sentimental, you might want to punt most of those and go for Secret Friend (unless you find his experimental/electronic tendencies facile) or Oh Woman, Oh Why (unless you find his "rock" mode affected).currently starting on a ringo deep dive with Sentimental Journey. it's nice so far! can't imagine it satisfying beatles fans (you want ringo to rock out a little) or standards/big-band fans (to quote mst3k, "wow, they don't call john carradine 'the voice' for nothing!") but even if it kind of sounds like your genial uncle pasted over a very nicely-recorded band who he never once met, it's still warm and he's clearly got a smile on his face all throughout... i mean, it's lovable old ringo! good for him for trying his hand.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:12 (seven years ago)
I started to listen through your list yikes Mumbo is like a shitty Beach Boys outtake (sans vocals, but that hammering 8th note piano style is total Brian Wilson)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)
ringo's double-tracked vocal on "bye bye blackbird" is pretty winninghahahaha yeah I made the post-smile beach boys/macca comparison a bit back and it makes more and more sense to me as i think about it.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:18 (seven years ago)
Big Barn Bed is pretty good but god I find this creepy for some reasonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzVJlLpriY
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
70s BW and Macca are p interesting compliments of each other - at opposite ends of the success/functionality scale and yet their approaches to their musical output are kind of similar: stoned, slapdash, occasionally brilliant, often mind-numbingly stupid, casually unpredictable, largely shadows of their former selves. But tbh I prefer BW's output more just because he is so much farther *out* than Macca, and there is a real emotional core to a lot of his stuff (the "tragic figure" arc of his life def figures into this) that Macca rarely dips into. Even when BW is writing stupid throwaways about Johnny Carson, they still contribute to this peak into what feels like an actual, lived in life. Macca is usually more opaque, it's all just goofy smoke and mirrors and platitudes about how much he loves Linda or whatever.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
His vocal on "No Other Baby" is I guess what boomer critics had in mind when they longed for a Paul McCartney who used the gifts displayed in the Beatles.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)
I like this song that I'd never heard before today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSS2ABconDg
― purrington, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 19:01 (seven years ago)
shakey, that's a solid summary and I don't disagree with any of it. and yet I have always liked paul's stuff more! maybe i'm just more oriented to his melodic/arranging sensibility or the sense of variety and polish - stuff always sounds more *finished* and i do think there's a greater range of musical territory (all within the pop/rock megagenre obv). i also grew up with more of paul's stuff so that probably shaped my taste as much as my taste informs which i'd rather listen to most days.meanwhile on ringo-watch: Beaucoups of Blues is another very pleasant listen so far! Nashville Skyline is the inevitable comparison but this feels less idiosyncratic/unique than that - Ringo's voice and the material he ginned up with the band fit very, very comfortably into the early 70s country/AM-gold interzone. he's obviously way more at home dolefully explaining that someone gave him the fastest growing heartache in the West than he is doing "night and day" or even than he is belting out a rocker like "back off boogaloo." i kinda wish that after that initial wave of early hits he'd just decided to be a country artist, but maybe these listens will change my mind...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
if Nashville Skyline is an homage to Lefty Frizzell (which is how I hear it) who is Beaucoups of Blues an homage to...? Buck Owens? (I've never listened to it tbc)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
Morse Moose and the Grey Goose maybe the most "Paul McCartney album track" song title ever. all the theatrics and drama of a "Live and Let Die,"
ahh, the dramatic build was used in the Twin Freaks version of Coming Up! tyvm for this pointer, Doc Casino.
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)
BOB is solid, and, yeah, Conway Twitty should have worked with Ringo.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 20:11 (seven years ago)
Oh man that's an inspired pairing
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
Missouri Loves Company*massive eye roll at Ringo*
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:30 (seven years ago)
Single Pigeon = man this also reminds me of post-Smile Brian Wilson, a pretty but fairly simple piano progression with dumb lyrics about a bird outside his window. at least until the horns briefly come in, which have a very Beatle-y arrangement.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
not bad, but slight
RRS is a lousy album though.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:42 (seven years ago)
when I said upthread that I can listen to McCartney albums and enjoy them while they're on and then not be able to remember a single thing about them as soon as they stop playing, RRS is what I had in mind. Totally forgettable.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:43 (seven years ago)
I wrote this about "My Love." I love Rob Sheffield's theory that Paul wrote it out of envy for George's "Something."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
er, this.
Morse Moose and the Grey Goose = omg the Animal Collective buzzing high-pitched synth running through this whole thing is so fucking irritating, what a horrible sound.
Paul could be actively irritating in a way the other Beatles' solo works never were (at their worst, they were boring and flaccid).
But this just makes me want to stab something, it's a sonic crime.
Temporary Secretary also quickly goes from cute novelty to actively irritating, although there it's the chirping refrain that really grates.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)
re: ringo's homage - i'd trust anybody itt's judgment more than mine as to what styles or performers ringo is going for on this record - i own a few classic country LPs but i don't really know the genre! loving these classically shakey-esque track reviews. can't believe i got you to listen to "morse moose and the grey goose."giving a thumbs up to beaucoups of blues. will keep these first two ringo albums in rotation and recommend any particular standout tracks if they come to me. moving on now to his "rock" albums which have always looked worrisomely "i had me own albums to do, peace and love" to me, but i could easily believe they have some gems. ringo opens with the lennon-penned "i'm the greatest," the silliness of which i've always appreciated, but it's like 10 BPM too slow or something, just kind of plodding. what happened to his instincts as a drummer (the thing he's actually the greatest at)? my fear has always been that these next few LPs are mostly like that, but we'll see....
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)
i had me own albums to do, peace and love
lol this is probably a little too on the nose...
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)
Put It There = this is pretty good, it's a sturdy melody and actually reminds me a bit of XTC (yes I know that's backwards) but that may be the late 80s production sheen of chorused guitars more than anything then else. I don't love the sound of it but with a slightly different arrangement/production style I can see it being quite affecting. Of course the song is then promptly ruined by the Hello/Goodbye callback coda.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:04 (seven years ago)
I don't know! The song is way too brief to criticize (Paul produced it himself btw); I don't rate it.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:09 (seven years ago)
No "Cut Me Some Slack" for Paul McCartney?
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
critics have been doing it since 1970
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
"Cut Me Some Slack" was (I believe) only performed live, that once? So I left it off, as I'm excluding live stuff.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)
if a studio version was released somewhere, feel free to vote for it.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:26 (seven years ago)
Yeah there's not much I'd salvage from Ringo's s/t. Despite the inclusion of a song called "Step Lightly" and a bunch of great musicians, it mostly all sounds like they're on downers and out of ideas. Stunning to read that Rolling Stone found it the best solo Beatle record released by November 1973, and that only Goodbye Yellow Brick Road kept it from #1 in the US. "Photograph"'s status as a big hit has always sort of mystified me - it's again, doughy and sluggish, but if I imagine it a little faster, the boringness of the melody just looms larger. I mean it's okay but it's really the same thing the whole way through, four or five notes, dah dah dah dah DAH dah duh... say what you will about Paul but he would quit or fall asleep halfway through if you tried to get him to sing this. "It Don't Come Easy" at least has some big, ear-grabbing hooks and real Ringo-y drum fills but I think it'd be better without the horns piled all over it - doesn't really make you sound like a scrappy hard-time dues-payer when you're beaming it out from a Vegas stage. Rounding out the singles, "Oh My My" at least feels a good fit for Ringo's persona, but that's all I can really say about it."Early 1970" is the real keeper imo - limber, sincere, stripped down to the country-western sound that worked so well last time, and evidently Ringo is the kind of guy who writes better tunes and lyrics when there are things he's actually feeling and wants to get on record. I could put that on a ballot. "Sunshine Life For Me" has a momentary flash of interest when George's vocal line comes in towards the end. "You're Sixteen," though an icky choice of material, is what the whole album should have been - brighter, more uptempo, with Ringo singing at the top end of his register rather than the wooden bottom... he's done a standards album, a country album, okay, do the album of American Graffiti soundtrack covers. "Devil Woman" has a flash of a grittier, Stonesier energy or something but it's buried under the same good-time boogie horns as everything else.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)
the album version of Cut Me Some Slack was live-in-studio, no? so as valid as lots of early Beatles songs, and probably loads of '70s stuff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_City:_Real_to_Reel
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:49 (seven years ago)
"Put It There" does not have a "Hello Goodbye" coda!!! That's the stupid music video version which I explicitly cautioned everyone not to listen to!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:49 (seven years ago)
>:|
oh I love "Photograph" because of that melody (George's melody). I would've preferred a Harrison production to Perry's, but Ringo wanted commercial. I don't give a shit for "You're Sixteen" but "Oh My My" is fine.
It's amazing to think how many consecutive top tens he enjoyed through 1974 -- more than the other three!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
hahaha oops sorry
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
Some of the best tracks on the last McCartney album, New, are toward the end. "I Can Bet," "Road," "Get Me Out of Here," and the hidden track ("Scared").
― timellison, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)
"I Can Bet" is good! I could tell in seconds that he was drumming.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 23:39 (seven years ago)
"Put it There" (about Paul's father) randomly came on Spotify a few weeks after my dad passed away and cut me to the bone.
By the way, has anyone listened to the original demos of McCartney & Costello from the Flowers in the Dirt reissue? Worth checking out if just to hear how Paul melds his background vocals to EC's. There's points where I can't tell him & Costello apart at all. Also, the lack of 80s production on the raw rehearsals does wonders for the material.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocgZO-Vm-3A
― Darin, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 23:43 (seven years ago)
Here's some more underrated McCartney gems in addition to Doc Casino's excellent list:
Little Lamb DragonflyMama's Little GirlBeware My LoveDaytime Nighttime SufferingSo Glad To See You HereOne Of These DaysThe Pound Is SinkingGood Times Coming/Feel The SunBack On My FeetAll of the McCartney/McManus demos-Golden Earth GirlFrom A Lover To A FriendAll of Chaos and CreationMr. Bellamy
― ColinO, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 23:56 (seven years ago)
Jet (Band on the Run)Take It Away (Tug of War)Arrow Through Me (Back to the Egg)Eat at Home (Ram)No More Lonely Nights (Give My Regards to Broad Street)Every Night (McCartney)Say Say Say (Pipes of Peace)Press (Press to Play)We Got Married (Flowers in the Dirt)Sally G (B-side of “Junior’s Farm”)Letting Go (Venus and Mars)Figure of Eight (Flowers in the Dirt)Heart of the Country (Ram)Mrs. Vanderbilt (Band on the Run)Ever Present Past (Memory Almost Full)Listen to What the Man Said (Venus and Mars)My Brave Face (Flowers in the Dirt)Another Day (single)Secret Friend (McCartney II, Special Edition)This One (Flowers in the Dirt)Wanderlust (Tug of War)Hi Hi Hi (single)Goodnight Tonight/Daytime Nighttime Suffering (single)No Other Baby (Run Devil Run)Country Dreamer (B-side of “Helen Wheels”)One of These Days (McCartney II)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 23:57 (seven years ago)
I expect no one to love this scrappy non-hit rocker, but I always have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVA7qFurE7I
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 23:58 (seven years ago)
Here's another demo w/Costello I need to rep for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNJl2IdW7Vc
― Darin, Thursday, 17 May 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
This curio has not yet been accounted for (and I may vote for it). Bonus track from recent Pipes of Peace reissue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDoaZdoWwjA
― timellison, Thursday, 17 May 2018 01:51 (seven years ago)
i listened to Band on the Run today, loved "Jet" but "Bluebird" was hard to stomach.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 17 May 2018 02:42 (seven years ago)
"Jet" is so fucking great. SUF FUR RUH GETTE! JET!"Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five," tho
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 03:06 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrop_GZsp-U
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 17 May 2018 04:42 (seven years ago)
OTM
― albvivertine, Thursday, 17 May 2018 04:58 (seven years ago)
Alfred's list is closest to the type of list that I'd put together. There's one or two that I'd remove, and a lot more that I'd include, but it's a far better representation of what McCartney is good at compared to the likes of 'Mumbo' and 'Morse Moose' etc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 06:34 (seven years ago)
I'd rank Red Rose Speedway as easily one of the weaker albums in the McCartney discography. The best three Wings albums are Band on the Run, Venus and Mars and Back to the Egg.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 06:38 (seven years ago)
'Bluebird' is a great song - one of my favourites, that.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 06:39 (seven years ago)
Lovers That Never Were is lovely! Paul often better when tempered by some opposing force/with someone to impress.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 17 May 2018 06:56 (seven years ago)
I like the McManus demos but some of the lyrics (or even, like, the title "the lovers that never were") are too Costello-y for me. Paul, of course, is terrific on them - he's great at working with pompous windbags
― bunny slopes, Thursday, 17 May 2018 08:08 (seven years ago)
That's why Paul stopped working with Costello - he didn't want to make an "Elvis Costello" album. (His words)
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2018 08:13 (seven years ago)
'The Lovers That Never Were' is without doubt a '90s McCartney classic for me. The Off the Ground version of course.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 09:15 (seven years ago)
there's something eerie and almost sinister about One Of These Days. I don't know if it's intentional, and it would probably would have had a different vibe if it had ended up Tug Of War or Pipes Of Peace, but the production on McCartney II is so hollowed out and spectral sounding it gives the impression of hopelessness, that this day when he looks around and sees what's right and breathes fresh air ever after etc is never going to happen?
A lot of the reviews of McCartney II (both positive and negative) talk about it as sounding like a seines preliminary sketches that he didn't turn into fully formed songs, but imo One Of These Days is more like the reverse, a ghostly remnant - like someone has constructed their life around this dream and everything has been hollowed out and enervated over time so that all that's left is this forlorn dream - especially the way it stops and then starts up again after a moment of complete silence, like the thought process he's singing about has become some entirely mechanical and there is nothing else. The processing on McCartney's voice makes the bit where he sings "fresh air evhuuu-ahhhh-fter" sound like a death rattle! idk, if you asked him I get the impression that McCartney would say that the song is meant to be optimistic and that the stillness is supposed to suggest tranquility and meditation rather than devitalization, but it sounds so grim to me
― soref, Thursday, 17 May 2018 10:47 (seven years ago)
Still on Pipes of Peace, "So Bad" is... so good (sorry) !Arguably his best falsetto ever.Such a beautiful, classic, Smokey-like slowjam (and it made sense that Smokey covered it).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psiVMVu_kGI
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 17 May 2018 10:53 (seven years ago)
soref, i agree totally.fwiw turrican, i never said my selections were the best showcase of what mccartney is capable of, just a sampling of things i get a kick of, off the albums that strapped-for-time voters will probably not sit and sift through. some of em will make my ballot, but they'll be down below "jet" and such, as i was trying to make clear...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:12 (seven years ago)
I read somewhere that "Jet" was the song Paul played in the Lagos studio to convince Fela he wasn't ripping off his music. "No really, we're not stealing from you! Listen!" "Jet! wooo-oooo-oooo! Jet!" Fela paused for a second and said, "Yeah, you are definitely not stealing from me. OK, see you later."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)
Jet was entirely recorded by George Martin at AIR after the Lagos sessions.
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:37 (seven years ago)
speaking of BOTR, I've long wondered how much lead guitar McCartney plays on that album as opposed to Denny Laine? I assume Laine was closer to a strummer, and I know he handled the keyboard parts that Linda couldn't play or McCartney wouldn't play.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:39 (seven years ago)
Really? Huh. Wish I could remember what song it was that he played for Fela.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:39 (seven years ago)
or I guess maybe by Emerick at AIR? anyway
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:43 (seven years ago)
added most tracks mentioned itt to the collaborative playlisthttps://open.spotify.com/user/betamaxdk/playlist/61os6iMh4h0qY70BawKB5U
not much Lennon on it, maybe his cuts are too obvious? added #9 Dream which is gorgeous and weirdly proto-Ariel Pink
Ok, so I made these a while back - imaginary LPs from Abbey Road up to 1981 (I planned to continue up to the present day but didn't for whatever reason) - I am positive that nobody will 100% agree with my choices, but thought I might as well share / get some feedback on them.was there a blog with fake news to go with these? rings a bell
George's voice which even on a good day isn't a beautiful instrument to listen tohate to admit it but listening through these George's voice indeed isn't that great
― niels, Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
Plastic Ono Band is a great album, not a bad song really (okay mayyybe Working Class Hero) my choice cuts apart from Mother which will surely place are Love and Well Well Well
― niels, Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
u crazy, Working Class Hero is top ten easy
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)
bravo niels, collabo playlist looking much more robust. though very short on john as we've had our attention focused elsewhere. hmmm. well i'm gonna continue with my ringo adventure for now but maybe i'll swing back to john before revisiting paul...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:24 (seven years ago)
xposts
POB, Ram, and All Things Must Pass are kind of my starting points for this whole exercise (as i'm sure for some other people here? maybe i'm wrong about that). it's really hard to cut more than a handful of songs from any of them
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)
secret fave on POB (though "Mother" floors me more than any of 'em) is "I Found Out" - I like John pissed off and reveling in what an angry young man he can be and how many enemies he's realizing he has. "Gimme Some Truth" is in that same vein, ditto "Crippled Inside" even though the sonic attack has been reined in in favor of a jaunty, old-timey boogie. Love all those.
Not that I don't buy positive-activist John too! "Give Peace a Chance" is something really special IMHO, maybe wore it out when I first got my hands on the John Lennon Collection on cassette... but the refrain is so good, and the lo-fi "live in some administrative room we're occupying" sound in the recording, where the assembled chanters sound numerous but by no means unstoppable, give it this incredible hope-against-all-odds vibe. Maybe a weird connection to the hollow sadness haunting "One Of These Days" - of course I'm hearing it in the hindsight of knowing that peace has not been given its chance, but more than most of the anti-war songs of this period, it still comes through fresh and alive with the sound of genuinely optimistic young people reclaiming their naivete as strength, and believing that it really might just be as easy as giving peace a chance.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
A few Lennon songs I'll probably vote for that I don't think have been mentioned yet:
Bless YouNobody Told MeWatching the WheelsJealous GuyOh Yoko!I Don't Wanna Face ItOne Day (At a Time)Oh My LoveGive Me Some TruthHold OnI Found OutIsolationRememberLook at MeGodPower to the PeopleRemember Love
― Darin, Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)
Instant Karma should be v high on any lennon list imo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:04 (seven years ago)
"How Do You Sleep?" will likely be way up there on my ballot, which i didn't expect when starting all of this.
i really appreciate its cruelty, especially after trawling through the coasting crap that eventually overwhelmed so much of the beatles' mid-1970s-80s. he heard Paul's indirect swipe at him, "Too Many People", and responded by punching back directly, 100 times as hard. it's not the most noble reaction, but at least i remember it afterward. having george on hand to add the little bluesy licks adds to the viciousness. even the phil spector strings have a raw synthetic quality and a nasty bite in some places (like the way they cut off at the end of the first chorus).
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:06 (seven years ago)
it's not the most noble reaction, but at least i remember it afterward.
(just to be clear, i love and remember "too many people" as well. the songs i can never remember are the filler on Walls and Bridges, Mind Games, etc)
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:08 (seven years ago)
Macca's gonna dominate any discussion of Beatles solo output just because there's so much *more* of it, it's a lot to ruminate over (even if huge swathes of it are forgettable nonsense). At the same time, John's smaller discography also results in him having a much higher hit:miss ratio than any of the other Beatles imo. There's mushy sounding filler on Walls and Bridges and Mind Games, and some real misfires like Once Upon a Time in NY - but that's pretty much the limit of it. The range of great albums in his pocket - both POBs, Imagine, Fly, Pussy Cats, etc. - is very impressive.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
which is why a George or Ringo playlist would be cool!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
btw Living in the Material World is a forgotten blockbuster: #1 five weeks, #1 single, best-ever solo guitar work, pffft
I like the account How Do You Sleep's recording by Felix Dennis (about halfway down here):
https://www.beatlesbible.com/people/john-lennon/songs/how-do-you-sleep/2/
― soref, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
this sounds like George's guitar (over a ska beat? lol) but I guess it's actually Joe Walsh...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnN3IRPSOjs
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
that whole album "Old Wave" is Ringo + Walsh apparently
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)
that was the ad campaign: "Old Wave = Ringo + Joe Walsh!"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)
and never even released in the US! which is sort of crazy
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:36 (seven years ago)
a Beatle not being able to get a record contract in America (even with an Eagle!)
yikes is there anything more literal than the "I've been here so very long/I've lost all direction" lyric in this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGfKqMW5WiQ
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)
Thanks for the Spotify playlist, niels! It's nice to listen to a ilx-curated collection of these songs. I've found it really challenging to slog through Harrisons non-ATMP solo work in particular. I've put on Dark Horse, Extra Texture, etc so many times and always give up after a couple of songs. Nice to discover so many gems I've ignored.
― Darin, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
that features the appearance of at least Beatle.
i assumed you were trying to approximate Leo McKern in Help!
I think George would win for me via Peak Value (like Sandy Koufax). Thus Paul would lead in volume of gold AND shit.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)
At the same time, John's smaller discography also results in him having a much higher hit:miss ratio than any of the other Beatles imo.
The guy made two great albums, and you seriously have to cherry pick from the rest.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
My favourite Lennon deep cut is 'What You Got' ... awesome song, great vocal.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
oh god I hate that honking pre-disco vibe. I can smell the old cigs on sofa cushions.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
yeah, blech
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:38 (seven years ago)
made two great albums
I listed five, which is way more than you can say for McCartney
not a bad track on any of those imo. That can't be said of a lot of Macca's albums, which feature not just boring or lazy songs but actively terrible ones.
(I re-listened to "My Love" after being reminded of it by Alfred but being unable to recall it and jeeeeeezus christ that is godawful)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:41 (seven years ago)
always loved the Spector-ish melodrama of this, would've fit right in on Death of a Ladies Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O28PqKx8n2s
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:46 (seven years ago)
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You listed two John Lennon albums, two Yoko Ono albums and a Nilsson album, and four of those albums came out prior to 1972. McCartney not only made more very good to great music, but made more of it in Lennon's lifetime alone.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)
I'm using the criteria for this poll, John was deeply involved with the production of all those albums, regardless of when they came out
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:04 (seven years ago)
John was obviously better at choosing collaborators/projects too, nobody of any quality was willing or able to work with Paul throughout the 70s
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:05 (seven years ago)
I'd say "able" more than "willing", but it doesn't matter since McCartney had the talent to be able to do it himself anyway.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:10 (seven years ago)
xxpost What I love about Working Class Hero is that each time he sings the chorus, its meaning seems to shift, from ironic to sincere to resigned. Also, a Beatle calling his listeners "fucking peasants" must have been shocking.
― dinnerboat, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:14 (seven years ago)
my v helpful contribution to this thread is i'd rather listen to ram than almost any lennon solo album, and yoko is a more consistent songwriter than either
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
idk if i'm gonna vote in this though, i know yoko's and john's catalogs really well and love all things must pass, ram, and band on the run but... beyond that idk!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:03 PM (nineteen minutes ago)
this is a strange statement since lennon didn't make any albums for the last 5 years of the 70s. if you're comparing lennon 70-75 to mccartney 70-75, lennon wins that one hands down.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
and McCartney's '75-'80 output is godawful, a few scattered gems aside
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)
Don't provoke the Maccamaniacs, whatever you do.
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
anyone like "Girls School"?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:41 (seven years ago)
this is a strange statement since lennon didn't make any albums for the last 5 years of the 70s.
Moot point. Not McCartney's problem.
Also between 1970-1975 McCartney released Band on the Run and Venus and Mars, both superb and untainted by not being hipsterflappybirdPitchforkcore a la John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band. Also, he put out Ram and singles such as 'Live and Let Die', 'Another Day' etc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
Just create the Beatles forum already pls
― Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
hipsterflappybirdPitchforkcore a la John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
https://i.imgur.com/zrw2CSd.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
You mean like that Steve Hoffman thing? (xp)
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)
i like "girls' school!"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
and i am back from cleaning the kitchen to report that goodnight vienna and ringo's rotogravure are both lousy records, though both with some flashes of energy that put them above the bulk of ringo. generally though the vibe is similar: some lennon-penned or lennon-ish good-time goofy party numbers, dragged down by oddly disinterested rhythm tracks and hungover vocals from our boy. his cover of bruce channel's "hey baby," the only rotogravure single to chart in the US (#74) is remarkable only for its decadent blowsiness - not recommended as an interpretation of the song, but it does offer an alternately appealing and gross glimpse into the endless party ringo was apparently having at this point. spotify also uses these albums as a vehicle for the non-album back off boogaloo which isn't exactly my cup of tea but at least musters something close to thunderous force. you do indeed want to back off!
highlights if you need 'em: snookeroo (john/taupin) is what these records are mostly going for but missing through undistinguished MOR overproduction. occapella is also pleasant dopey fun but basically superfluous next to lee dorsey's earlier version. no no song and husbands and wives i've already praised upthread and are the best things here. pure gold (mccartney) was evidently not good enough for speed of sound and it's not great in ringo's hands but there's the outline of a great slow-dance prom number there. cryin', thank god, takes him back to sad-sack country, the one mode he was always reliable in. lady gaye is about good enough to be filler on most horrible 70s albums with titles like ringo's rotogravure.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
oh mannnn the next album opens with "drowning in the sea of love." i might not make it back this time.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
occapella is also pleasant dopey fun but basically superfluous next to lee dorsey's earlier version
How about Van Dyke Parks' version?
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
xpostsyou are truly doing the lord's work there, dr casino. however, i skipped straight to "no no song" to check it out and i feel like i'm listening to Jimmy Buffet. i can't, i'm out ringo, sorry
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:09 (seven years ago)
"No no no no, I can't take it no mo'!" - Karl Malone
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
^that, but slowly getting softer and softer as i lightly jog toward the horizon
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)
yeah Ringo's discography is a real wasteland, perhaps not surprisingly. he just never gives that much of a shit.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
or, perhaps more charitably, his skills are not well-suited to solo albums
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
yeah i scrolled through his list of drum credits above to get back to loving ringo. unfortunately i think you may have given him more than he deserves - for example (according to wiki) on leon russell's debut he only plays on "Dixie Lullaby," "Shootout On The Plantation," and "Hurt Some Body," alongside George for all three. no shade, assembling a list like that would be tedious as all hell! anyway the drumming on those tracks is good.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)
"Snookeroo" is splendid nonsense, much more bearable than "No No Song."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
Yeah i had a hard time looking up some individual track credits for various albums he played on
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:06 (seven years ago)
Ringo alas became a sad alcoholic from the seventies through the late eighties. Check out this shambolic appearance. George looks embarrassed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDglxOfzlJ4&t=78s
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:19 (seven years ago)
That scene from The Kids Are Alright where Ringo and Keith Moon are all like "We're not drunk, teenyboppers! We've just had our medicine!" ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:31 (seven years ago)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:51 PM (one hour ago)
?? i didn't say it was "mccartney's problem," i said it was weird to praise paul for (supposedly) releasing more good stuff in lennon's lifetime like that was especially impressive considering that lennon didn't make any music for most of the last five years of his life. no idea what that description of POB is supposed to mean but yes, for crying out loud, POB is better than venus and mars.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)
Yeah, by miles
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
Turrican resorting to ad homs = par for the course
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
Anyone voting for Pete Best rekkerds?
― timellison, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)
https://sonicmoremusic.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/ringo-starr-and-john-bonham1.jpg
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:17 (seven years ago)
?? i didn't say it was "mccartney's problem," i said it was weird to praise paul for (supposedly) releasing more good stuff in lennon's lifetime like that was especially impressive considering that lennon didn't make any music for most of the last five years of his life.
Lennon may not have released any new music 1976-1979, but it still doesn't make my statement any less true. Arguably, Lennon was washed up by '73, but still managed to hit upon the occasional stunner.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
By comparison, McCartney was just beginning to get started again in '73, after spending 1970-1972 just enjoying himself with the pressure off - but even then he put out Ram, plus gems like 'Maybe I'm Amazed', 'Another Day' etc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)
Wouldn't call either of those "gems" tbh.
They just had different approaches resulting in different rates of output imho. Lennon driven more by inspiration and his own emotional ups and downs, Macca driven by a protestant work ethic. AndLennon was on fire from '69-'73 in a way that Macca was not imho. When he stopped, Macca just kept rolling on (mostly as before).
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
idk again ram is fucking awesome
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
lol @ plastic ono band being "pitchforkcore"
― marcos, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)
that was def some outstanding nonsense
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
Not denying Ram's awesomeness!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
when Pitchfork discovered Ram and McCartney II my heart died. They can't touch Press to Play or Flowers in the Dirt.
(actually, it's not true – just about every Macca album has equal proportion to good vs terrible)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)
lol @ plastic ono band being "pitchforkcore"― marcos, Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:36 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkthat was def some outstanding nonsense― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:37 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Nope, it made perfect sense. I would apply exactly the same term to McCartney II.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:41 (seven years ago)
Alfred's last comment v otm which is one of the things that's so frustrating about Sir Paul.
Has Pfork ever actually reviewed JL's POB? I know they reviewed Yoko's.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
This review seems p otm about MII's strengths and weaknesses imo https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15536-mccartney-mccartney-ii/
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)
The point is that John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band and McCartney II both appeal to a hipsterselfawareindiebellend audience that must have some sort of "angle" to their music and wouldn't be caught dead listening to Flowers in the Dirt or the more saccharine John songs from Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey.
The former's angle of course being "multimillionaire pop star whining about his issues over REAL RAW STARK BACKING which is really REAL. REAL love, REAL rock, REAL John." and the latter's angle is "stoned multimillionaire pop star pissing about" ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
...which of course must be better than the stoned multimillionaire pop star recording songs in a proper studio with big production because he recorded it at home and wasn't chasing hits and that's really real, man.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
Coolstrawmanningbro
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)
must have some sort of "angle" to their music
albums with narratives around them tend to draw ppl to them, weird
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)
must be some hipster fascination
Same thing applies to The Beatles, too.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
Shocking
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:06 (seven years ago)
What other brave challenging opinions do u have
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
Albums with good music on them tend to draw me in, personally.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:05 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh god am i trapped in the narrowing matrix of turrican's opinions
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
Turrican only listens to compositions that adhere strictly to twelve-tone serialism
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
Where does he get these insights into how other ppl listen to 50 y.o. music
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:09 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:45 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And yet McCartney doesn't really tell us much about McCartney. As a songwriter, he wasn't (and still isn't, really) the confessional type. To a degree, McCartney is an actor whose medium is his songs ... When presented with the opportunity to let his guard down and show us his unvarnished self, Paul McCartney never did-- even in this intimate setting, his songs remain extroverted and devoted to achieving some measure of pop accessibility.
I think this is sort of true, but at the same time the more random McCartney stuff feels revealing in its own way - it kind of reminds me of the bits in Alan Partridge where he's rambling on about some banal subject and meanders onto a really morbid area, or something that indicates all the weirdness and anxiety that's lurking just below the surface - that quality of being sort of dull and conventional but deeply odd all at the same time
― soref, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:11 (seven years ago)
Definitely
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
His apparent vacuousness is revealing in its own way
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
.. and the same is true for Paul McCartney.
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:15 (seven years ago)
I think that McCartney has actually got more personal over the years ('The End of the End' and 'Early Days' spring to mind) and certainly more of his songs are more personal than people think. 'Little Willow', 'Calico Skies', 'From a Lover to a Friend' etc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)
I've never gotten the fascination that many critics have for the "confessional," as if that's what songwriters are supposed to do.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
I don't understand why Shakey finds it so difficult to believe that people may actually like McCartney's music and have their reasons for doing so, but hey!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:18 (seven years ago)
It's more yr arguing against other ppl's opinions in bad faith that's obnoxious
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)
I think McCartney is probably no more odd than the average person tbh (and neither is Alan Partridge, if it makes any sense to judge a fictional character in that way), it's just that most people are deeply odd when you get to know them, Partridge and McCartney reveal more of their oddness than the average person, Partridge because he has no filter or self-awareness, and McCartney because he's successful enough to turn every random idea he has into a song that gets put on a widely released album (and is maybe also lacking in self-awareness to an extent)
― soref, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
I've never gotten the fascination that many critics have for the "confessional," as if that's what songwriters are supposed to do.― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:17 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:17 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Indeed, many of The Beatles' earlier tracks like 'Thank You Girl', 'From Me to You', 'I Wanna Hold Your Hand', 'She Loves You' etc. weren't about anyone in particular. It was just Lennon-McCartney trying (and succeeding) to write a catchy tune with a relatable lyric.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
I absolutely dont subscribe to the confessional = better formula! And it tends to really irritate me when ppl do.
With Macca its not that he's not confessional its that his songs are often so literally empty, expressing either the most trite sentiments (love is great!) Or total nonsense. Sometimes both! And sometimes that combo is charming and disarming, other times its just stupid and lazy. That this is the m.o. he's chosen is somewhat revealing, was all i was saying.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
I think it's a limited view of McCartney's catalogue, though. Yes, it's true that McCartney has put out some tracks over the years that are completely fucking dumb, but just as often he'll pull a 'Distractions' or a 'Put It There' out of the bag.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:29 (seven years ago)
I don't recall people having a problem with McCartney's "nonsense" on 'She Came In Through The Bathroom Window', but I do remember people having a problem with the relatively direct 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:35 (seven years ago)
Partridge and McCartney reveal more of their oddness than the average person
Has Partridge been smoking dope for 50-odd years too?
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)
i listened to Ram last night. parts of it are great. parts of it grate. like i was enjoying "Monkberry Moon Delight" for the first minute or so but the longer it goes on (and the more out of tune he gets) im like, okay Paul, i get it. there are lots of patches on this record where things are going greatly but something inevitably rubs me the wrong way, like as soon as "Long Haired Lady" starts the album takes a dive into absolute dopiness. album's overrated, like a lot of Paul's stuff.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
Turns out love is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally long
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:06 (seven years ago)
"Uncle Albert" should have gotten McCartney sent to The Hague.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)
Nah that one's great
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
Paul goes on a silly naval adventure! V british
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)
See? Consensus!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)
the pitchforkcore, the heart music, plastic and the ono band
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:11 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ok this puts all of your mccartney opinions into question
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)
yeah even I'm gonna vote for Uncle Albert
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)
prob at #57 or so, but hey
seriously why are we even doing this discussion again, we've had this *exact* one, revolving around turrican's definitive marble-chiseled takes, in the last few months. like I get that solo beatles poll is an obvious place to try and rank the beatles versus each other but it could be a lot of other less shopworn things, like celebrating less-loved tracks (instead of shutting people down for doing so), or finding connections/comparisons to non-beatle music of the same period, or identifying themes across these huge discographies, or virtually ANYTHING but john vs. paul which I'm sure was actually a cautioned-against thread topic in usenet FAQs.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)
silly paul is bad, i'm with alfred
― brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)
RAM is awesome, proper rating = awesome album
listening through all these tracks what strikes me the most is how (and I know this sounds a bit silly) beatlesque it all is. but really, their individual styles were already defined when they were playing together, more or less the solo stuff sounds like their "solo" stuff with the beatles.
and so, (and I don't mean to rank the fabs, just describe them) I also find my thoughts of their solo stuff aligns with how I feel about the beatles: John has the best voice, his songs resonate with me in a way Paul's do not, he's deeply emotional, spoiled, egotistical, beautiful, unique. Paul is the better musician, melodies seem to come so natural to him, love his mellow stuff, but also the sentimental tunes (even if they lack the passion of John's). George is a great guitar player, has some good songs, esp the more spiritual stuff. Always surprised when I hear a truly great George composition cause in general I don't rate his writing, where did Something come from? Ringo is a great drummer and I also want to be under the sea in an octupussies garden but I don't really want to hear more than one of his songs per album.
and so I think the idea of creating post breakup beatles albums from their solo material makes a lot of sense. and I think back on that blog I read that had these album reconstructions with an alternate chronology and faux pr stuff to go along with it, I wonder where it is.
― niels, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)
Totally agree Doc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)
"uncle albert" is GREAT in a lot of the same ways "band on the run" is great - not really "about" very much but the quantity and density of musical ideas makes them such a treasure bundle. BOTR in particular, as a Classic Rock staple, has gotten worn down by overfamiliarity, but when i was first getting into these songs at age, hrm, 11 to 13 maybe, it was just amazing to me. the "if I ever get out of here" segment of BOTR and the "hands across the water" segment of albert could just as easily not be there and we'd never have known, but they add so much force and intrigue and spirit to them, fucking brilliant.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)
totally agree
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
I'd argue that McCartney is at his best when doing medleys/pastiches as per Abbey Road
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)
Niels alternate reality comp albums are linked on this very thread
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:23 (seven years ago)
ram is so frustrating because here's paul near the peak of his abilities, in great voice, obviously still full of awesome ideas for tunes, so many brilliant bits here and there -- and yet almost none of these songs feel fully realized to me. even the ones i like! so many of them feel like paul wrote them as if he half-expected one of the other beatles to come into the studio and throw in a few lines to finish the song, "we can work it out" style. most of ram sounds to me like "yesterday" if paul had never bothered to change the lyrics from "scrambled eggs."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
I think John actually got the farthest away from his Beatleisms in his work. "Imagine" and "Mother" dont really resemble anything he did w the Beatles, certainly not sonically.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
Silly Paul is great! But "Uncle Albert" is pathetic silliness. If he'd released "Eat at Home" (that guitar!) or "Monkberry Moon Delight," I would've driven his car.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)
I love “Band On The Run” until the “band on the run” part.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:26 (seven years ago)
most of ram sounds to me like "yesterday" if paul had never bothered to change the lyrics from "scrambled eggs."haha, that's great
― niels, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)
xp agree shakey, the eerie minimalism of mother is not beatlesque
I do think Imagine (apart from the sonics) could've been on Let it Be
― niels, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)
and i'll be ctrl+fing those albums, thanks
― niels, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:34 (seven years ago)
can we go back to debating Extra Texture, to my ears among the worst of Beatle solo albums (and Harrison's worst)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)
oh yes btw I know this is not eligible but all the same (think it was posted on one of the mccartney threads)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4EcRPlaXoQ
― niels, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)
Extra Texture does sound p bad but at least George's voice sounds better than on Dark Hoarse where its just embarassing
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:44 (seven years ago)
now it's the songs that embarrass
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:44 (seven years ago)
He's admitted that this was his coke/alcohol nadir, but ET is so lethargic that I wonder if he confused the coke for ludes.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:45 (seven years ago)
Terrible saxophones on that too iirc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:52 (seven years ago)
which he used to be good at arranging! (and would be again)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
otm
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
Yeah its weird
Does anyone know who plays the electric gtr leads on stuff like Many Rivers to Cross and #9 Dream? That weepy wah-wah slide gtr sound sound like John trying to get some George substitute.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
might be this guy, credited with "guitar"
https://www.discogs.com/artist/270581-Jesse-Ed-Davis
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:01 (seven years ago)
Man that guy was everywhere in the 70s. No Other!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:04 (seven years ago)
If the top part of my ballot stays in its current form, four of my first six McCartney tracks will be recent ones.
― timellison, Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:34 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLOTD7wrbtQ
pretty sure "Hold On" will be my top John Lennon track
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:50 (seven years ago)
here is that 10+ year John and Ringo rhythm section at work
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:51 (seven years ago)
most of ram sounds to me like "yesterday" if paul had never bothered to change the lyrics from "scrambled eggs."
change "ram" to "paul's solo career" and i think this still holds. so it turns out i'd have been totally pleased with "scrambled eggs" on a beatles album but at the same time it's hard not to wonder what might have been.... all these incredibly hooky, ingenious songs but very very few with anything to really connect to most listeners' lives or imaginations. apparently a lot of people identify with the idea of being in a band on the run, okay.... and the love songs (whether genericized or specific or "woe woe WOE woe") tend to do well, but god what if "jet" was actually about something and not just a stream of syllables loosely inspired by a sheepdog? or if "junior's farm" wasn't just a string of nonsense for nonsense's sake? they'd surely be among the best and most loved classic rock hits of the 70s. i think i might end up ranking "hi hi hi" over all the other 'rockers' even though it's a little less tight than "jet," just because he seems focused on something. man do i wish ringo was playing on it though.
(certainly denny laine and the interchangeable wings drummers were nothing on having george harrison and ringo starr in your band in terms of musical contributions and elevating a song with the right little touches or unexpected rhythmic moves or whatever. even just someone to sometimes be able to tell him that just for this one particular song, having the guitar be louder than the bass might be the right choice...)
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:51 (seven years ago)
"Junior's Farm" fascinates me. Still devoted to stand-alone singles, Paul releases a nonsensical rocker that hits #3 on momentum alone, whereupon it vanishes from history (I'm a fan of country-leaning B-side "Sally G").
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:53 (seven years ago)
I think that take on McCartney is fine up through about McCartney II, but not so much after.
― timellison, Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:57 (seven years ago)
My favorite sounding Wings group was the first one. Wild Life sounds like a band to me and, although Red Rose Speedway is subpar, they got better with Henry McCullough.
― timellison, Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:59 (seven years ago)
i also think it could be said that paul learned the wrong lessons from watching john work, as a lyricist - - - or at least, the lessons worked well for him having fun making music but not so well for making indelible music. i was listening to a 1968 radio interview where paul is discussing the white album, track by track, and mostly just completely evading giving any explanation, "it's, y'know, when you're writing, y'know it's just some words, like john with his poems, it doesn't necessarily mean anything and i don't sit down to try and say something..." etc. but lennon just had a better ear for which bits of nonsense really sounded like something, in the way that poetry works - you don't know exactly what it means but it expresses or evokes something anyway. they were different kinds of writers. i still like paul's nonsense like "monkberry moon delight" and "morse moose" more than his really dry and classicist writing like "only love remains" and "once upon a long ago" but you can tell when he's running dry and really trying to be weird and that's not so good either...
it also happens that the nonsense poetry mode, for john, seemed to dry up right when he veered hard into the "confessional" thing. i could be forgetting but i feel like his solo stuff is generally MUCH more literal-minded and certainly far less carrollian... very few "walrus gumboots" to be found... which leaves paul looking especially silly to listeners hearing them back to back on the radio in the 70s. okay folks that was john lennon "Imagine," next up we've got paul mccartney's new band "Wings" with their song "C Moon"....
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 00:01 (seven years ago)
yeah i love "Sally G." a little pastiche-y but charming. "I never thought to ask her what the letter G stood for / but I know for sure it wasn't Good."
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 00:02 (seven years ago)
also, i would love to read something really substantive on band dynamics in Wings. what was paul and denny's working relationship, all those years? what kind of contributions did he make (besides allegedly writing "Mull of Kintyre")? did he get to stick around because he was a yes-man, or because he was a really good collaborator that lifted and shaped the songs in ways we don't realize? did he and paul stay up til 3 getting stoned and scribbling out ridiculous lyrics together? linda's creative role is also much hazier than it ought to be.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 00:05 (seven years ago)
Are songs unique to the John Lennon Anthology valid for this poll? I don't see (for example) Real Love listed anywhere.
― Vernon Locke, Friday, 18 May 2018 00:06 (seven years ago)
My #2 in the Classic Rock poll, and it'll place high on my ballot here. I love its nonsensicality.
― WilliamC, Friday, 18 May 2018 00:12 (seven years ago)
xxxp "Hold On" completely rules, in fact JL:POB is the only Beatles solo I unreservedly like from front to back.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 18 May 2018 00:15 (seven years ago)
Yes Vernon all non-live solo tracks featuring at least one beatle are eligible xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 00:18 (seven years ago)
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:15 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark
the performance is just so strong. John and Ringo had been manning half the Beatles rhythm section for a decade now and they had been playing with Klaus on bass since mid 1969. it sounds like a really well rehearsed band. that guitar is so sweet to listen to. i don't even want to hear any outtakes, every note fell perfect. this is John's style, documenting the moment, which ofc is Yoko's style as well. this song is a magical moment.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 May 2018 00:26 (seven years ago)
Thanks Οὖτις! xp
― Vernon Locke, Friday, 18 May 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)
Doctor Casino have you read Band On The Run: Paul McCartney in the 70s? It gets into the band dynamics a fair bit, especially with Denny. I wouldn’t call it “really substantive,” not sure if that’s possible with this crew, but it will get you part of the way there.
― sciatica, Friday, 18 May 2018 01:57 (seven years ago)
That's what I asked earlier: how much of BOTR's lead guitar is played by Paul?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 02:09 (seven years ago)
xp Adam yeah - half the joy of JL:POB is the visceral buzz of three guys just getting down to it and digging in. I love how sloppy the recording is. A much needed purgative for the prissiness of Abbey Road.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 18 May 2018 02:36 (seven years ago)
Also...
COOKIR
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 02:44 (seven years ago)
COOKIE
Argh
sciatica, i have not! but perhaps i shall!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 03:31 (seven years ago)
Mind Games not popular in comments so far, but we've been down this road. Some people like it! I'm looking at four tracks from it possibly all in my top fifty.
― timellison, Friday, 18 May 2018 04:21 (seven years ago)
Extra Texture: I quite like the lyrics (and sentiment) of "The Answer's at the End".
― Luna Schlosser, Friday, 18 May 2018 07:36 (seven years ago)
It seems notable that when solo-Paul did try to write songs that were 'about' something, songs that made an important statement or whatever - they were usually embarrassing failures? Thinking of 'Give Ireland Back To The Irish' and 'Ebony And Ivory' here (maybe 'Here Today' to an extent, which isn't doesn't descend into unintentional comedy like those other two, but still feels kind of like a misfire?).
There's a demo version of 'Ebony And Ivory' that's just a Paul vocal and keyboards and it's very pretty, I feel like if he'd been content to have it be one of his general non-specific "why can't we all get along" hand-wringing songs, rather that making it 'about' racism, it would have been ok. 'Give Ireland Back To The Irish' is just incredible in how every single aspect of it falls flat and feels misjudged, it's almost like a perfectly bad song.
― soref, Friday, 18 May 2018 08:47 (seven years ago)
yeah, I love that "Ebony&Ivory" demo. I also love this version of "Band on the Run" but apparently it was recorded later (2003).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkfdG1K_suM
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 18 May 2018 09:14 (seven years ago)
this is John's style, documenting the moment, which ofc is Yoko's style as wellv otm
used to listen to Mind Games all the times
― niels, Friday, 18 May 2018 11:22 (seven years ago)
good mourning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 11:47 (seven years ago)
It seems notable that when solo-Paul did try to write songs that were 'about' something, songs that made an important statement or whatever - they were usually embarrassing failures? Thinking of 'Give Ireland Back To The Irish' ...
I point you straight in the direction of Lennon's Some Time in New York City, which is choc-full of exactly what you've described.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 11:54 (seven years ago)
for this poll I have listened to a fair bit of Paul that I hadn't heard before & well nothing much has stuck. It feels corny that after all these years the only one I really rate is John. ram on.
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 18 May 2018 12:02 (seven years ago)
Give Ireland Back to the Irish >>>>>>>>>>>> Luck of the Irish
Would be reversed if Lennon had meant the song as a joke though.
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2018 12:02 (seven years ago)
You can sing the words of the Lennon song to the McCartney tune.Making a Lennon/McCartney tune.
Doesn't make it any better though.
I quite like the b-side.
― Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)
I do think Macca was capable of writing about specific topics and concepts beyond "I love her," and channeling his tendency to write about "characters" into proper observations, meditations, or even good jokes - "Eleanor Rigby" springs to mind, or "Paperback Writer." He just didn't always do that, or would focus his eye on something of more interest to him than to the general public (famous groupies, Marvel comics, how one might edit a filmed montage of a homeless person, etc.). "Issue" songs are another matter entirely - there he's almost always been clumsy, like a lot of well-intentioned songwriters who can't find the notes of emotional immediacy or evocative specificity to turn their commitments into functional, audience-grabbing songs. Someone like Lennon, even when at the weaker end of sophomoric sloganeering, is able to sound pissed off on record, and that goes a long way - one of several ways in which he reminds me of Eminem ("Mosh," "White America"). Imho, Macca's intentions in this arena tend to exceed his grasp, with a certain gotta-give-em-a-good-show staginess always detectable, from "Ireland" up through "Pipes of Peace" and "Big Boys Bickering."
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
McCartney's inability to do the Lennon-esque pissed off thing is a big part of why 'Give Ireland Back To The Irish' is so funny imo, the peevishness of "but really, what are you doing", the urge to be even-handed and reasonable even in a protest song. 'Luck of the Irish' is also terrible, but terrible in a less awkward/more convincing way
― soref, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:38 (seven years ago)
Chorus is OK though.
― Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
i also think it could be said that paul learned the wrong lessons from watching john work, as a lyricist ... it also happens that the nonsense poetry mode, for john, seemed to dry up right when he veered hard into the "confessional" thing.
had similar thoughts myself, it's like once Paul hit the psychedelia period and realized he could get away with just any old silly off-the-top-of-me-head bullshit he never looked back. Whereas John pretty much abandoned it within a year or two!
The other distinctive Beatle-era Lennon thing missing from his solo work (and I think I've said this on some previous threads) is his penchant for odd rhythmic switchups - going to 6/8 in a bridge from 4/4, or adding an extra bar of 5/4 at the end of a verse, etc. Seems like that happens way less in his solo work (although it does still pop up occasionally - just as the nonsense does: a babagawa pussay pussay etc)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
Listened to the Spotify list of this thread last night and “C Moon” and “Gimme Some Truth” came on back to back. The contrast between these two couldn’t have been more stark.
― Darin, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)
Also, Harrison’s Don’t Let Mw Wait Too Long sounds like a lost Big Star track.
― Darin, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
Wow Give Ireland Back To The Irish is so fuckin shit hahahaha.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:38 (seven years ago)
was thinking a side poll of worst solo Beatle album might be fun (certainly more interesting than a best side poll)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
sounds good, except there is no way I'm subjecting myself to those to try and determine the worst one
worst song maybe?
― sleeve, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)
Give Peace A Chance has lots of great things about it (chorus, spontaneity, situation) but it feels to me like a missed opportunity in terms of an actual good record. Not perhaps its point I realise.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
Not putting in that category btw, just randomly putting my thoughts out.
except there is no way I'm subjecting myself to those to try and determine the worst one
yeah slogging through all of Paul and Ringo's albums seems like a thankless task
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
Spoiler alert: it isn't.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)
i think it'd be fun to go through all of paul's albums! ringo no
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
'Give Peace a Chance' is a great slogan, but it isn't a great song or a great recording. And what does it document? John and Yoko staying in bed and who gives a fuck?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
well I listened to most of Old Wave yesterday and that certainly was an album Ringo made with Joe Walsh, yup
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)
haha
― sleeve, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)
In the mid-'80s, Walsh used to pop in on a Chicago radio show occasionally. When he revealed that he had Ringo's home number, the hosts demanded to call Ringo and put him on the air. At first, you could only hear the hosts' and Walsh's end of the conversation -- it was because Ringo refused to consent to being put on the air unless the 5-second delay was turned off. This went on for a few minutes, and the hosts finally relented and turned off the delay.
"OK, Ringo, we turned the delay off. You're on the air."
"It's off? The delay is off?"
"Yes, we turned it off."
"SHIT!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:07 (seven years ago)
lol
I feel bad just even suggesting that Ringo shouldn't have bothered to make solo albums because he is so lovable - who can hate Ringo?! - but making solo albums was really not a thing he was particularly suited for
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:09 (seven years ago)
the All-Starr band tours make way more sense
i think it was fine for ringo to have solo albums, he just didn't seem to realize what he was good at, and/or was struggling with substance abuse to the great detriment of his voice, his judgment, his drumming, or his ability to guide all the friends and well-wishers who showed up each time he had his own album to do. if Beaucoups of Blues hadn't flopped so badly maybe the way forward would have been clearer - i know I've said it already but that really feels like the right template for a Ringo album and he could have had a great 70s doing drums-plus-duets with buck owens, dolly parton, sammy johns, john denver... all your favorites, here to Sing Along With Ringo!...as it is, worst solo album would HAVE to be one of ringo's, probably one i haven't even gotten to yet. even the worst paul record still has versions of the things he's good at. the worst ringo records have *nothing* to make them worth listening, and the worst john record (some time in new york city probably?) is a distinctive and significant part of his discography. i haven't delved into the george albums generally considered his worst but i'd still be shocked if they were as dull and irritating as ringo's worst.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
yr alternate-universe 70s country run for Ringo sounds promising, I have to say
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:19 (seven years ago)
i think it was fine for ringo to have solo albums, he just didn't seem to realize what he was good at, and/or was struggling with substance abuse to the great detriment of his voice, his judgment, his drumming, or his ability to guide all the friends and well-wishers who showed up each time he had his own album to do
lol this is a delightful sentence
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:19 (seven years ago)
I wonder why that didn't happen, really? Probably just two worlds that were too different, like why would Conway Twitty even think of reaching out to Ringo - I can't really think of anyone in the British rock or American country scenes to serve as that necessary link
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
Οὖτις: If you want to add James Taylor's "Carolina on My Mind" as my #16 and assign points accordingly, please do. If 16 is too weird a number, don't bother.
― clemenza, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:27 (seven years ago)
We've known, thanks to George and John, for years that being a Beatle for years involved dealing with a kind of PTSD; well, leaving the Beatles was a kind of PTSD too. Paul says he took to the bottle too. For Ringo, who couldn't write songs like the others and had no other life beside being a Beatle, it was worse. He needed help from his friends but the only help he knew how to ask for was musical (also: AA culture hadn't kicked in yet).
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
lol cross out that first "for years"
really appreciating John's vox on Instant Karma! today, and thinking about how they pretty much single-handedly makes it a classic. the underlying song is pretty pedestrian (other than a few interesting chord changes in the middle of the verses), but the lead voice is so strong and raw and iconic. there's a group of barflies singing behind him, echoed into oblivion like everything else, alan white is playing more forcefully and than ringo ever cared to (with a few exceptions), there are dozens of tambourines, etc, but it's his voice that carries the whole thing.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:36 (seven years ago)
I disagree that 'Instant Karma!' is pedestrian. Not many people can write a chorus that good.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:46 (seven years ago)
clemenza - added, no problem
I don't think I've ever heard that before actually, my hatred of James Taylor precluding actually listening to entire albums
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:49 (seven years ago)
man Instant Karma is incredible, such a punch in the face.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)
not going to get into a back and forth with you about how the way that i hear the song is incorrect, but i'll just note that i didn't say that 'instant karma' was pedestrian, i said the underlying song was pedestrian. it's the vocal line that is godlike. if you handed the same musical accompaniment to paul or george, i can't imagine them coming up with anything so perfect.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:57 (seven years ago)
it's structure is pretty simple, true. production and the vocal carry a lot of the weight.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:59 (seven years ago)
The "vocal line" is a huge part of what makes "the song" the song. I think you mean the simplicity of the backing track rather than the song itself being pedestrian.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)
can you please help me learn how to say "i like john lennon's singing on that song" in a way that is so semantically unique and pure that no other interpretation could even be considered? because that's what i really mean
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 May 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Friday, May 18, 2018 12:09 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Really wish I'd caught one of those early tours, especially the first one. At the time, inexplicably, it didn't strike me as a big deal, but in retrospect, shit -- Levon Helm! Rick Danko! Nils Lofgren! Billy Preston! Dr. John!
I thought about going to see him when he came to town a year or so ago, but in addition to tickets being crazy money, not only was the lineup less than stellar (members of Toto, Men At Work, Journey), I don't think Ringo plays drums on his own at any point in the show -- there's a second drummer throughout. I just wanna hear Ringo, dammit! I always thought it'd be cool if he found some kids and put together a garage band and played clubs, but he seems to really dig the singing/"I'm an Entertainer!" aspect of his tours.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 May 2018 17:36 (seven years ago)
re: Beatle PTSD: this is exactly why "Early 1970" is so compelling.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
here's a great ringo cover story https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/being-ringo-star-beatles-cover-story-20150415
― niels, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
lol @ that opening anecdote about Paul
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)
i guess i am listening to every macca album lol. anyway "dear boy" is so good
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
Play it and "Too Many People" back to back. The latter is so addled that it's funny (i.e. Linda and Paul shouting PIECE OF CAKE).
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:31 (seven years ago)
brad....you don't have to do this. it's not too late!
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)
lmao
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)
who knows i may give up by the first wings record
mccartney is just a sketch but some of those songs are great. ram, i hope this isn't the most ridiculous unwarranted comparison ever, has always sorta seemed like it's what paul thought smile sounded like. even when he's fucking around it's so fun, so simultaneously rickety and ambitious
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)
AND THE WIND PLAYED A DREADFULCANTATA
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
Brad is getting it!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:54 (seven years ago)
'Dear Boy' is a wonderful song. Lennon somehow thought it was about him, it's actually about Linda's ex-partner!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
Sore was I from a crack of an enemy's hose And the horrible sound of tomato.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
^^ this is what a hangover feels like
occurred to me from time to time who each beatle considered their competition, other than Beatles records and each other's 70s shit (its been established that J would closely follow P's chart progress)… I would think Paul would pay close attention to Elton; George to Clapton and other elite guitar players…I listened to best of dark horse from '89 yesterday and some of it sounds like pre-High Life Steve Winwood… who did John listen to? He liked the b-52s, and I guess he did "serve yourself" in response to "Gotta Serve Somebody."
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:04 (seven years ago)
did someone upthread say that dark horse was the druggiest george harrison era? or just the drunkest? i've never really given it much time, but it's true that he just sounds so beat down. the title track could be one of his best songs, but it barely even sounds like him, and his voice is so distant sounding.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)
Extra Texture is.
I don't mind "Dark Horse" title track at all. The rest is the closest George approximated '70s studio rock hackdom.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:08 (seven years ago)
xposts to veronica i don't know about competition, but it seems like they'd be keeping tabs on people like paul simon.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)
Yeah, Extra Texture certainly, but it's hinted at on 'Simply Shady' from Dark Horse, which also features a version of 'Bye Bye Love' with re-written lyrics to refer to Clapton fucking off with his wife. Even more bizarrely Clapton and Patti are both on the song.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)
George loved keeping it in the family, as shown by his hitting on Maureen.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, May 18, 2018 11:35 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hmmm yep
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
I like this one. George plays all the guitars and keyboards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enMj0Tly9Bw
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)
I think McCartney checked everything out, really. Certainly, I can hear a lot of Beach Boys influence, but also some '70s Floyd on a couple of Wings tracks. A little bit of glammy shuffle in places. By the late '70s, I think he'd turned his attention to stuff like Costello and Squeeze. Some synthpop crept in on McCartney II. I get the impression that he always kept an ear on what was going on in black music during the '70s into the early '80s, even if the influence only came out here and there.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
who did John listen to?
he referenced Blondie's Heart of Glass as a favorite in a letter to Ringo shortly before he died
― Darin, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
Brad, Wild Life and Red Rose Speedway represent a bit of a lull. He gets his shit together again on Band on the Run.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)
Lennon liked 'Rock Lobster' because of the Yoko influence.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)
Lennon talking about new wave here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWE3npesaRo
― soref, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:27 (seven years ago)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, May 18, 2018 12:25 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh, i'm aware, it's why i've always skipped directly to band on the run, but i was hoping there'd be... something more here. "wild life" the song is p good though
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
Sadly, Lennon was robbed of his life before any possible New Wave influence in his music could be felt - like, his songs on Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey are stylistically on the poppier side of Lennon's usual solo songwriting voice, whereas Yoko's tracks are a different story entirely and far more contemporary and exciting to my ears.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)
this is nuts…round 6:30, you can't believe yr eyes…shot for Back to the Egg, and not long after Keith Moon's demise…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWzsDm5D_8
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
I'm really sure that at one point in 'Wild Life' (the song) Paul sings "Aminals in the zoo" ... that'll be the result of the stuff he was growing on his farm, no doubt.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
what the individual Beatles were listening to during their solo careers seems like a different question from who they considered their competition to be
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
plus we already listed a couple of people various Beatles actively worked with - Elton John, Clapton, (could add Marc Bolan to that list)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)
it's a little hard to guess since I doubt any of them came out and said "I felt the need to compete with [x], which was really successful and great at the time", that doesn't seem like their style. Plus they were all in the rare position of being able to co-opt any competition they liked, since anyone and everyone would have killed to work with a Beatle.
At the same time, the press were constantly on the lookout for the "next Beatles", whether it was T. Rexstacy or showering Zeppelin with questions about whether they could fill the void left by the Beatles etc.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
actually side b of wild life is much better than side a. i love "tomorrow." is this the primary experience of macca's solo discog, "this is so tiresome -> wait some of this is actually p great"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)
the reverse
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)
"this is so tiresome -> wait some of this is actually p great" = my experience with martinis
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:08 (seven years ago)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:08 (seven years ago)
Wow, thanks for that. According to wikipedia, the recording session took place October 3, 1978, less than a month after Moon died. And I don't think Jones was in the Who yet by that point, but probably was by the time that footage aired.
When Rockestra played the late-1979 Kampuchea benefit, Paul asked the members to wear sparkly jackets. Townshend refused:
https://johnrieber.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/concert-for-the-people-of-kampuchea-paul-mccartney-rockestra.jpg
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:10 (seven years ago)
Pete Townshend looking fit and sober
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:11 (seven years ago)
― albvivertine, Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:01 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"dear friend" is a great song
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)
Yeah, the best tracks on Wild Life for me are 'Tomorrow', 'Some People Never Know' (although it doesn't need to be that long) and 'Dear Friend' ... 'I am Your Singer' as well.
'Some People Never Know' is about Lennon too.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:16 (seven years ago)
Where's the love for Let Em In? It's one of the best Macca songs post-beatles!
I'm just listening in but this will take so much of my time... these have all been Macca highlights from what I've listened so far and will surely vote for them:
Paul McCartney - Every NightPaul McCartney - JunkPaul McCartney - Oo YouPaul McCartney - Temporary Secretary
Paul McCartney & Wings - Let ‘em InPaul McCartney & Wings - Arrow Through MePaul McCartney & Wings - Letting Go
Paul McCartney - Sunshine SometimeLinda McCartney - Mister Sandman
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:18 (seven years ago)
Is there anything by Ringo that's worth it? I'm leaving him for last but at this rate I don't think I'll get to him in time.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
'Letting Go' is definitely a favourite of mine!
As for Ringo, 'It Don't Come Easy' rules and I enjoy the Ringo album...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)
yeah Ringo's best stuff is all right at the beginning of his discography
have to say, this video is still amusing and the song is better than I remembered ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVu6nPTVbBQ
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
one of my favorite George deep tracks is on Cloud Nine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2grHLTGQA
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:26 (seven years ago)
I don't think I've ever listened to that whole album! Part of it is that I get kinda tired of Jeff Lynne giving everything that uniform robotic chug, I have to be in the mood for 40 minutes of it.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:29 (seven years ago)
Supposedly Macca is in the walrus costume in the When We Was Fab video.
― piscesx, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
Lennon-wise these are the only songs I'm considering voting for so far... I'm rarely in the mood for Lennon's style tbh...:
John Lennon - Instant KarmaJohn Lennon - Nobody Told MeJohn Lennon - I Found OutJohn Lennon - Oh Yoko!
OBVIOUSLY:Yoko Ono - Walking on Thin Ice
The Cheap Trick version of I’m Losing You that appears on WONSAPONATIME is also good. Don’t really like the double fantasy version.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
I remember 'I've Got My Mind Set On You' getting played on the radio a lot.
That album sleeve, though! It's like he's taken fashion tips from John McVie...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)
Middle-aged Dude DGAF Swag
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)
You don't like 'Oh My Love' or 'Love', Moka? Those are beautiful songs.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)
or any of Yoko's songs with John (apart from the very last one?) wtf
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican)
Oh... Oh My Love and Love are good ones yes! I just took a quick glance at the Lennon list and those above are the ones I immediatly recognized as favorites... those two will end up in my ballot... still haven't started with Lennon... McCartney has way too much material and I'm not even done with the half of it.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:54 (seven years ago)
guys guys calm down I said those are the ones I was considering voting for so far not that those are the only Lennon songs I'll vote for.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
Those Doctor Casino recommendations for McCartney are great. First time hearing Waterspout and I loved it. It sounds a bit like Paul Simon to me.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)
"fish on the sand" is the best song on cloud nine, such a great riff. love the descending melody at the end of each verse rep
― brimstead, Friday, 18 May 2018 21:00 (seven years ago)
The Ringo Starr single of "It Don't Come Easy / Early 1970" are the only Ringo songs I know and they're very likeable. I'll definitely include those two in my ballot. If there's anything else worth it I'm all ears! Thanks.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
― brimstead
Ah yes! Love this one. Great power pop number. Out of all the Beatles, Harrison is the one that's really good at evoking nostalgic and melancholia for me.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
btw Ringo the 4th (1977) is just as horrendous as "Drowning in the Sea of Love" suggests. i paused halfway through to listen to "Instant Karma!" and then when I went back I couldn't remember where I was in the album at all, I started each song and nothing rang a bell at all. "Out on the Streets" at least has some convincing pep (as opposed to the scratchy-throated garrulous cigarette-couch faux-pep of the rest) and it winds up with a Nilsson-esque jokey spoken-word bit, so I guess that's the standout. The next track, "Can She Do It Like She Dances," showcases Ringo's voice sounding ruined af. Even "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley" (back to that Toussaint/Dorsey well) is boring here. "It's No Secret" confirms, if you needed to know, that Ringo with a scratchy throat is a profoundly poor fit for Yacht. "Gypsies in Flight" is the token reminder that with more countrified elements Ringo can still sound okay - his wooden voice *needs* something high and flowing like the pedal steel here (or, say, George's work on "Octopus's Garden"). Overall: the lousiest yet of these lousy Ringo records.By comparison, Bad Boy (1978) sounds at least mediocre. His voice is in better shape, there's less production earwax between the session and the tape, and the material's just a little better or more varied, like he knew he'd fucked up and had to try a little harder on this one. It didn't work (this was a contract-ending flop, though he was able to find another label and get one more out before he *really* ended up in the woods), maybe because for all that, it's still utterly forgettable - not distractingly awful but just unnecessary, and on balance, more "contract filler with no guest-star IOUs left in his pocket" than "hungry for that comeback." I guess the title track works all right. But ffs this guy was in The Beatles! He really couldn't get a better producer, better crew, round up better material or even a clearer vision of what his recording career should look like...? It's a bummer.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:38 (seven years ago)
yikeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eGI5mbf_8I
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
srsly wtf was that shaved eyebrow thing about
― Darin, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:26 (seven years ago)
pretty sweet George production here, sounds like an ATMP outtake. Could see Dennis or Carl Wilson killing the vocal on thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPK8yCxrTe4
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
and I hope this lil gem (w George and Ringo) gets at least one votehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBmXLABEo_k
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
it's like once Paul hit the psychedelia period and realized he could get away with just any old silly off-the-top-of-me-head bullshit he never looked back.
I know this was posted seven hours ago but it is my job to point out that saying he never looked back is fine if you consider eternity to have ended around 1982.
― timellison, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:15 (seven years ago)
he named an album Flaming Pie in 1997
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)
which tbf I guess you could call an instance of looking back lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)
he was also working on a canned album called Return To Pepperland circa 1986/87
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 23:23 (seven years ago)
Ringo update: Stop and Smell the Roses (working title: Can't Fight Lightning) (1981) finds Ringo attempting to right the ship and stack the credits with trusty writers (McCartney, Harrison, Nilsson, Stills), a freshly beardless look, and what must have been intended as "wacky" music video themes (haunted house, BDSM). It was a disaster:
Stop and Smell the Roses reached no further than number 98 in the US.[19] On 31 December, the HMV store in London announced that despite the busy Christmas period, only 30 copies of the album had been sold(.)[1]
It sounds a little more competent than the last couple of albums, but there's still some really poor decision-making here and not much to suggest that anybody had any compelling reason to be recording an album. (Note: this one and Old Wave aren't on Spotify so it could be that I'm getting inferior versions on YouTube or something...) McCartney's "Private Property" (his response to the ska revival??) just isn't five minutes' worth of song; his "Attention" makes no impression at a all. Harrison's "Wrack My Brain" has just a little bit of energy, and the barest outline of a "Whatever Gets You Thru The Night" party song.... but why are the drums quieter than the oompah-band horn? Nilsson's "Drumming Is My Madness" and "Stop and Smell The Roses" sure are Nilsson giveaways circa 1981; I would have rather heard Ringo covering "Sweethaven" or "Everything is Food" than slowly asking "Do you think I'm sexy? Do you think I'm silly?" Naturally our boy Ron Wood turns up, with something called "Dead Giveaway" which is one of the most lackadaisically recorded 'rock' songs I can remember hearing. For some reason, there's a remake of "Back off Boogaloo," opening with a remake of "It Don't Come Easy" and including reprises of "With A Little Help From My Friends," "Help!" "Good Day Sunshine" etc. - Nilsson showing off, I guess. On the positive end... "Stop" at least has a decent throwback quality, like it's 1968 and doing straw-hat bicycle-built-for-two throwbacks is still the cutting edge, and Ringo delivering more semi-coherent spoken-word rant ("You know it's accident-prone! Nobody likes you! [...] Stop! And take the time to buy this album..."). As usual, the country song (Carl Perkins's "Sure To Fall") is decent. Stills's "You've Got A Nice Way" takes a bold step into the mainstream of corny 1981 pop-rock, much more convincing than his previous gestures in the yachty direction, and the little surprise chord change on "so I know" actually gives you something interesting to look forward to.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)
I wonder if they are bad quality versions, Dr. C, because that was Ringo's best sounding album. I like the McCartney and Harrison produced stuff on that. It's a good version of "You Belong to Me."
― timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:09 (seven years ago)
(Best sounding of the old ones, anyway, imo. Not familiar with the newer albums he's been doing since the early '90s.)
― timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:18 (seven years ago)
"Wrack My Brain" is Ringo's last American top forty hit.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:40 (seven years ago)
I like this other George album track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKwaOGYfxc
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
Anyone else voting for this freaking gem with its weird, apocalyptic imagery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48FfjqPW3XM
― timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:38 (seven years ago)
i love "You're Breakin' My Heart". that album is like a brother White Album to me, down to the way Ringo says "Goodbye, Harry!" at the very end.
The Ringo Starr single of "It Don't Come Easy / Early 1970" are the only Ringo songs I know and they're very likeable
"Photograph" is cool, it's a pretty nostalgic tune, in the vein of Beatles-nostalgia tracks like "No. 9 Dream" or "When We Was Fab". "I'm The Greatest" is kind of silly and fun like a Tenacious D track or something. my favorite Ringo track rn is "Back Off Boogaloo" which is basically Ringo doing T-Rex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXg1AxBXN5g
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:52 (seven years ago)
vote for back off boogaloo yes
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:54 (seven years ago)
title track for Goodnight Vienna also very good and will be getting a vote from me
― bunny slopes, Saturday, 19 May 2018 05:48 (seven years ago)
Realizing how crucial "Long Haired Lady" is to Ram, for me. Great song.
― timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)
lmao i love "c moon"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
also unfortunately i don't think i understand why "my love" is so bad, though it def is macca desperately trying to rewrite "something"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:27 (seven years ago)
lmao exactly
"How would George play this? OK, Henry, your solo is GREAT, man."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
btw the not-so-big surprise of this thread is how consistently great George's solos are, even at his hackiest. On paper the idea of a slide solo bores me, but he 99.9 percent of the time is terser, more sarcastic, or more liquid than expected. Like, he always knows what the song means. The dude is one of my top ten favorite guitarists ever.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
means = ever
lol means = needs
I hate phones
red rose speedway doesn't really make any kind of sense as an album but it's kind of adorable. i love the arrangements of "get on the right thing" and "little lamb dragonfly." the production is almost confectionary, just clouds of sugar
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:41 (seven years ago)
yeah those are two songs i always totally forget about and then find totally enjoyable when they're on.c moon rules. "was that the intro i should have been in?"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
Brad may dig the chord/tempo changes on this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzHJcW5wpP0
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)
'Little Lamb Dragonfly' was never really one that grabbed me, although it's a favourite of many in the McCartney hardcore. 'Get On The Right Thing' has some neat ideas and I like the drum sound on it, but doesn't 100% work for me.
'Big Barn Bed' is okay (you can hear him break into an early draft of it during the fade of the 'Ram On' reprise on Ram) but the main highlights for me are 'My Love' (all-time McCartney favourite) and 'Single Pigeon' ...
I have absolutely no use at all for the Medley (absolute waste of time) or 'When the Night' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
'C Moon' is great - always loved that one.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
Speedway is a good sounding record. Better than BOTR, I think.
― timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
Actually, looking at the tracklisting, I'd somehow forgot 'One More Kiss' and 'Loup' were on Red Rose Speedway. I like both of those - 'One More Kiss' has the kind of melody that wouldn't have sounded out of place on an early Beatles record, and 'Loup' has that neat Floyd-like section in the middle.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)
the medley is weirdly kinda bad yeah. it's weird, you'd think paul connecting unrelated songs would be the main attraction at this point in his career, with "uncle albert" and "band on the run" coming out in the surrounding years
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
That's what I thought when I first heard it way back, plus this was the guy that had a big hand in piecing together the Abbey Road medley from scraps of unfinished Lennon and McCartney songs. The Red Rose Speedway medley just doesn't feel focused at all - individually the different parts aren't very good, and together the whole thing feels a bit of a mess. I don't like it at all and find it a bit of a slog, come to think of it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)
Paul’s pre-Beatles solo LP will likely figure heavily in my ballot.https://i1-wp-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/i1.wp.com/rockcriticsarchives.com/bookshelf/shipper01a.jpg
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
i love band on the run, it's so charming. "nineteen hundred and eighty five" is one of the coolest songs paul ever wrote
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:34 (seven years ago)
Yeah, love that song too, and one time heard a great version of it one Sunday evening whilst changing trains at Times Square by Beatles tribute band The Meetles.
― Bring Me The Binaural Heads Of Butch Firbanks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
lol means = needsI hate phones
― Bring Me The Binaural Heads Of Butch Firbanks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:46 (seven years ago)
whoa i LOVE "magneto and titanium man"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
otm -- the keyboard!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)
"letting go" also rocks
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
that's long been one of my favorite solo Macca favorites -- and a total bomb on the charts.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)
yesssss to magnetoThe Speedway medley --- I want to say I read that the original idea, when this was a double album, was that each of the first three bits would have been sprinkled around the different sides, so that when they start appearing in "Power Cut" it's this awesome payoff. Or maybe I just imagined that, but it makes a *little* more sense than just unrolling these fairly trifling songs one after the other as your closer. Ambition exceeding his grasp - I still like it, but if each section was really convincing as a song in itself, it could have been spectacular.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 May 2018 22:16 (seven years ago)
Fan of “Love in Song” if we are talking Venus and Mars.
― timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
I love 'Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five', particularly the way it builds up to that ending!
'Magneto', 'Letting Go' and 'Love In Song' all favourites of mine, but then I rate Venus and Mars quite highly in general. I get 'Medicine Jar' stuck in my head quite a fair bit too, and McCartney didn't write that one!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)
AND THE CRIMSON DYNAMOJUST COULDN'T CUT IT NO MO'!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)
A few other McCartney songs that deserve shout outs: No WordsTomorrowShe's My Baby (I might be alone in my appreciation of this one)Jenny WrenJunk
― Darin, Saturday, 19 May 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)
HI DERE
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2018 23:54 (seven years ago)
i love "She's My Baby," "mopping her up" and all. That's a real pop-into-my-head-at-the-grocery-store tune.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 20 May 2018 00:35 (seven years ago)
No Words
ok so: i started constructing a ballot i may never complete, but this is currently my no. 1
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 May 2018 00:36 (seven years ago)
also "junk" is so lovely
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 May 2018 00:38 (seven years ago)
wow i’m really glad i heard “getting closer”
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:46 (seven years ago)
On paper the idea of a slide solo bores me
you have never listened to classic country i take it?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:48 (seven years ago)
No, I never listen to any country music.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:50 (seven years ago)
I am so loving BN's deep Wings dive, and that it keeps paying out dividends.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)
Lol alfred
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
I am so loving BN's deep Wings dive, and that it keeps paying out dividends.― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, May 20, 2018 3:00 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, May 20, 2018 3:00 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup, me too!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:36 (seven years ago)
Back to the Egg in general has become a huge favourite of mine, and it sucks that there weren't more albums with that line-up.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
I've always kind of liked this Ringo song. Roger Manning and Andy Sturmer from Jellyfish are on it. He covers a Posies track on the same album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAjq2uxLfpY
― purrington, Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
^^ by far his most listenable album after 1974.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)
Giving Wings at the Speed of Sound another listen today... definitely one of the patchier Wings albums for a couple of reasons (side two can fuck off entirely apart from 'Silly Love Songs' and 'Warm and Beautiful') but I forgot how much I love 'The Note You Never Wrote' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
I wish there was a 12" instrumental of Paul McCartney's 'Temporary Secretary'
― raise my chicken finger (Willl), Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
Non-Macca Speed of Sound jam "Wino Junko" is one of my favorite dumb Wings songs.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 20 May 2018 21:10 (seven years ago)
omigod why haven't I paid attention to Red Rose Speedway's "When the Night"???
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2018 13:06 (seven years ago)
the na na na na na na na na na naaaaghtfell on me
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 May 2018 13:07 (seven years ago)
is "Loup" his attempt at writing Sly & Family Stone's "Thank You For Talking To Me Africa"?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2018 13:11 (seven years ago)
4 ballots in already! Off to a good start
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 16:51 (seven years ago)
against my better judgment i'm making one
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)
just curious, did the ballots make it to 100?
i'd like to list 100 songs, but i want to genuinely like every song on my list, and i'm not sure that's possible
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:53 (seven years ago)
100 song ballot really useful for when i inevitably put every non-apple jam all things must pass song on my ballot
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:53 (seven years ago)
I have 2 100 song ballots so far
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:01 (seven years ago)
That was me – I listed "Blow Away" 99 times.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2018 17:08 (seven years ago)
correction - one of those ballots was actually only 99 tracks cuz voter voted for one song twice
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
nice try, voter ;)
― niels, Monday, 21 May 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
"jealous guy" is a very good song
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)
side two of imagine is really well balanced, feels like a tour through lennon's best modes
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 19:03 (seven years ago)
feel like plugging this, Yoko's best piano ballad imohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8k4lN3Kd28
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
that's good. never heard that before.
― Darin, Monday, 21 May 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)
that song is amazing
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)
i'll be voting for it and "death of samantha" and prob several other approximately infinite universe songs
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 19:29 (seven years ago)
my man
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
I'm up to 40 songs on my ballot of stuff I unreservedly love.
next I guess I'll add some Paul songs
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:23 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"remember love" is awesome
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)
Totaled the points I had for songs from particular albums and ended up with these at the top:
All Things Must Pass - 700 pts. (nine songs)Ram - 523 pts. (eight songs)Mind Games - 353 points (five songs)Chaos and Creation in the Backyard - 327 points (five songs)Memory Almost Full - 322 points (five songs)
― timellison, Monday, 21 May 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, May 21, 2018 1:00 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh i would also like to enthusiastically rep for another ono b-side, "listen, the snow is falling"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)
'Don't Worry Kyoko' is fucking awesome.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:10 (seven years ago)
Think I'm gonna give Flowers in the Dirt another listen...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)
never a bad idea. "my brave face" and "put it there" are locks for my ballot, and maybe "we got married," "this one," "that day is done," and one of the bonus tracks. if it was an all-macca poll, two of the bonus tracks. great material in that period. we've just recently had it out over the production so need to really rehash but i, personally, wish all those songs had gotten a more "rootsy"/"natural" sound - if nothing else i think they'd be much better-known and better-liked. OTOH i like that he wasn't content to say "okay, i'm forty, it's time to settle down and just make classic 'beatle sound' albums with george martin from now on."but i also feel like mccartney himself hasn't ever really owned how good these songs are. he seems really content in interviews and clips to talk about the stuff where there was clearly a positive critical/commercial consensus, "oh yeah, i thought, a band on the run, hmm, now THAT's interesting..." and rarely comes out and says "man i'm really proud of 'flowers,' i wrote some great songs for that, "this one" came to me like a flash of lightning at 3 AM and i hope people getting into my music check that one out" or whatever. he has anecdotes for the famous songs and he never talks about this album or 'back to the egg' or whatever. whereas someone like john or george i think had no problem hyping up whatever they thought was really good (and, often unfairly, slagging off stuff they were momentarily down on).
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
I have deeeeeep affection for Flowers. "We Got Married," "My Brave Face, "This One" will make my ballot.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)
good George deep cuthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXY7HbQulJA
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)
Yeah, I've often found it a bit disappointing that whenever McCartney is interviewed, it usually ends up going over the same old ground - his post-Beatles career spans over 40 years and I really wish he'd talk about that stuff more.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
maybe he just doesn't remember at this point
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
like, people want to talk about something he spent an afternoon on high out of gourd 30 years ago? sounds like that would take more effort than re-hashing practiced responses he's been trotting out on a daily basis in intervening period.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:15 (seven years ago)
I doubt that. It was cool to see his responses to things like Ram becoming more popular in recent years.
― timellison, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
i had never heard it before but uh i guess surprising no one here i kinda love the ultimate soft rock hits collection that is george harrison's self-titled record
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:43 (seven years ago)
newspapertaxis12 weeks agoIf you ever feel lonely or depressed......Please listen to "Love comes to Everyone"..........Soooooooooooo Beautiful!!!!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:46 (seven years ago)
Harrison’s Don’t Let Mw Wait Too Long sounds like a lost Big Star track.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)
and chris bell's "i am the cosmos" sounds like ATMP
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:05 (seven years ago)
Ehhh i wouldnt go that far
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson),
"Your Love is Forever"!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)
xpost hmm, the instrumental breakdown esp. sounds a lot like harrison, but i guess ymmv. just read that it was mixed by Geoff Emerick at George Martin's studio, too!
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)
there is a *lot* of Beatles (and Harrison in particular) in Bell's stuff but the sound of "I Am the Cosmos" is not the Spector Holy Mtn of Sound on ATMP, it is much rawer and ramshackle and more limited in scope. Which is no fault of his own, Bell didn't have the resources George did.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:19 (seven years ago)
i guess this is a little challopsy in the beatles solo careers poll thread, but i kind of wish they never ever would have met up with phil spector
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)
and i suppose paul would agree with me, at least
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
oh god "awaiting on you all" is the best song anyone ever made let alone a beatle
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
yes how dare he show up and produce/mix/shape the two best solo Beatle albums
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
yeah i mean it's possible to acknowledge that those albums are good and also note the possibility of those same songs/albums turning out very good in a different way with a different producer.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)
I can't imagine who that would be tbh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)
some funny Lennon anecdotes about Spector:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vqX_BoUULY
― Darin, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)
I mean in 1970 there's really no other producers in George and Phil's league in the rock world - maybe Brian Wilson, but he obviously wasn't going to be getting a lot of work done with the Beatles at that point lol
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:32 (seven years ago)
from what I understand Spector didn't really have much to do w/POB, right?
― Darin, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)
he mixed it!
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:36 (seven years ago)
his influence is pretty apparent on some tracks (like the echodrums on 'Well Well Well')
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)
couldn't imagine all things must pass without the spectoral shimmer
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:40 (seven years ago)
as far as which other producers would be better, i dunno, but there had to have been other producers who wouldn't have covered all the tracks in reverb and strings. again, i love POB and ATMP and Imagine and Spector's sound is very much a part of those records, but i don't think everything would have fallen apart if someone else was in the room. to believe that they only would have been good with Spector's touch is to elevate him above all his peers in a way that i don't think he necessarily deserves
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
"awaiting on you all" is the best song anyone ever made let alone a beatle
I had it #5 overall on my ballot, first of nine songs from the album.
― timellison, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:43 (seven years ago)
I gave Venus and Mars another couple spins over the weekend and imo it's not a fantastic album by any means. As usual for every tune that's appealing it's almost immediately offset by something that's gratingly awful. "Magneto and Titanium Man" is going on the low end of my ballot, "You Gave Me the Answer" can go die in a fire, "Listen to What the Man Said" is a pretty good single but then it's marred by that shitty saxophone noodling. "Rock Show" is so boneheadedly literal I can't really appreciate it.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:44 (seven years ago)
"Awaiting On You All" would be my number one, but for a certain song that I know other people aren't going to vote for/actively hate
"You Gave Me the Answer" is incredible.
― timellison, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:46 (seven years ago)
to believe that they only would have been good with Spector's touch is to elevate him above all his peers in a way that i don't think he necessarily deserves
I direct you to the ILX Producers poll, which Spector won by a deservedly wide margin, he really is that special
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:46 (seven years ago)
i think "spirits of ancient egypt" is cool
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)
and come on, "letting go"!
Producers, Recording Engineers and Studio Wizards: POLL RESULTS
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)
I came across as unduly harsh there, the good stuff is good, the bad stuff is bad and it's about evenly split imo
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
is Paul the funkiest Beatle? I kind of think so. I feel like the other three didn't get how funk rhythms work, not to the extent Paul clearly does anyway.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 23:06 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 21, 2018 3:15 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm surprised at how much i absolutely love "here comes the moon"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 21 May 2018 23:11 (seven years ago)
I think either George Harrison or Gone Troppo is the best of those four late seventies, early eighties Dark Horse label albums.
― timellison, Monday, 21 May 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)
pretty stoked to have the harrison s/t lined up for my evening listening. never heard any of the records in between 'material world' and 'gone troppo.'. hopefully it will be a nice change up from the ringo slog (tho i still have hopes for 'old wave')
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:17 (seven years ago)
re: funkiness: i could be way off but i do get the impression he was more actively listening to current pop... the braille dedication to stevie wonder on Red Rose Speedway being one indicator.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)
"Remember Love" is sweet, ... kind of reminds me of a Velvet Underground ballad. Surprised Wes Anderson hasn't picked it up for one of his soundtracks.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:32 (seven years ago)
Is Ronnie Spector's Tandoori Chicken actually eligible? I love it and would put it in my top 20 but not sure if it belongs in here.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:38 (seven years ago)
living in the material world feels real loosely glued together
"give me love" and "don't let me wait too long" are jams though
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
"don't let me wait too long" is so slept on. if they'd stayed together and it was on a beatles album every beatles fan would love that song. maybe not "here comes the sun" level but it'd be a thing.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:52 (seven years ago)
Yes tandoori chicken is eligible (george played on and produced it), i am voting for it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)
― Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Friday, May 11, 2018 3:50 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these songs both rule
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
Man i wish the the george/phil/ronnie spector album had been finished, can totally imagine her killing it on "You".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Try_Some,_Buy_Some
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 01:56 (seven years ago)
i've rly been enjoying having an excuse to dig into a lot of solo beatles stuff i'd either never heard or hadn't listened to in more than a decade. went through a bunch of 70s paul in the car this weekend and i actually dug a lot of it much more than i expected. ram isn't as underwritten as i'd remembered, and back seat of my car probably rates as one of my favorite solo mccartney tracks now. (the moment when he suddenly bursts out "we believe that we CAN'T be wrong!" gives me chills, just so perfectly timed.) red rose speedway is a frustrating album because i feel like it's so close to being one of his best -- big barn bed, get on the right thing, single pigeon are all good -- but everyone is otm about that damn medley! it's as if paul was so confident (after abbey road) that he could make a great medley out of anything that he barely bothered writing any real songs at all.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:00 (seven years ago)
oh man! i wonder if ronnie's version of "you" still exists? now that i remember it, the song sounds perfect for her.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:01 (seven years ago)
Would love to hear that also. I should have voted for "You," now that I think of it...
― timellison, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:05 (seven years ago)
what's so bizarre is that red rose speedway was intended was a double album! i'm one of its defenders as a nice little collection of diversions and oddities - basically a better-produced and slightly more-completely-written wild life - but no wayyyy was there another platter's worth of good material. "country dreamer" and "i lie around" are both good, i admit, and the cover of "tragedy" is okay, but that's about it and none of those really demand inclusion. b-sides almost by nature.
harrison s/t is off to a great start. i always liked "love comes to everyone" and this lush, almost LA sound on "not guilty" is working shockingly well. i know the beatles take on anthology by heart so it's interesting to hear it softened up and sanded down, and yet still sounding great.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:07 (seven years ago)
the harrison s/t is pretty great, i've decided. at the v least i think it's much better than living in the material world
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:10 (seven years ago)
i just love that sound/period. there's some touches on "here comes the moon" that remind me a lot of paul simon on still crazy and one-trick pony. or the opening few seconds of "wino junko," actually.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:19 (seven years ago)
same. it's a lovely production
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:21 (seven years ago)
oh man and "blow away" is on this too! yeah i'm totally sold on this album, i mean at this point side two could be garbage and it'd still be better than living in the material world. i've always found "faster" sort of laughable since catching the video once randomly in the early 00s... i mean he just looks so lost in that outfit, and having "he's the master of going faster" as your centerpiece line is a tough sell imo. but in the context of this album i'm noticing and enjoying the lushness of the production more, and it's not hookless.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:33 (seven years ago)
man this thread! I never thought I'd see one where GH >>>> LITMW
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:36 (seven years ago)
As a production I prefer the latter -- there's a tightness to the arrangements and a newfound fluidity to George's playing -- but GH has "Love Comes to Everyone," which has been stuck in my head for the last two weeks. Talk about an effective use of the soft rock disco bounce -- a sound I've critiqued enough in my Worst Songs Ever series.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:37 (seven years ago)
as far as which other producers would be better, i dunno, but there had to have been other producers who wouldn't have covered all the tracks in reverb and strings. again, i love POB and ATMP and Imagine and Spector's sound is very much a part of those records
John and Yoko insist -- take it with a grain of salt -- that they did the actual producing while Spector got the balances right. I suppose it depends on what you think a producer does or whether you agree with them. They've played it pretty straight as far as assigning credit goes.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:38 (seven years ago)
Essential listening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjp_ZHNkhrg
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:41 (seven years ago)
I like the sound of Living in the Material World, too. In fact, it sounds better to me in the current mastering job that's on Spotify than what I remember from having a vinyl copy. One thing I'm not crazy about, though, is the sound on some of the lead vocals where it sounds like you're hearing Harrison being picked up by something other than a close miking of his voice.
― timellison, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:55 (seven years ago)
He was recording at his home studio as early as that album, but I've always thought there was a real notable change in the quality of the sounds being produced starting with 33 1/3.
― timellison, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 03:02 (seven years ago)
wow "sisters, o sisters" fucking rocks
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 03:24 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAMR0JPXDHo
the badness of some time in new york city is overstated imo, it's mostly... ok. however, this song ^^^^^ is AMAZING
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 03:57 (seven years ago)
i'm voting for "we're all water" too, thank god for yoko ono
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 04:02 (seven years ago)
listening to all things must pass straight through for the first time in years and years. god it's terrific. just gorgeous, generous music. so many ideas and little bits of guitar playing all pouring out. i love spector's production, gives so much texture and also probably helps accentuate the differentness of the songs (versus if it'd just been drums-bass-guitar-vocals all through).
some weird sequencing starting on disc two though. in general the third disc, apart from "it's johnny's birthday" still seems pretty pointless to me, but i also think the title track is such a "closer" that it feels weird to get up and start again after that. maybe that's partly just a legacy of first getting to know this on CD, where it was a double-album, and all of the original side four is the opening suite of disc two. but idk, "awaiting on you all" followed by "all things must pass" is just such a concluding pair for me, and having the redundant "isn't it a pity" in there also makes it feel like you're into some kind of weird bonus material, like one of those albums that comes with a seven-inch of implicitly secondary material.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 04:18 (seven years ago)
but yeah count me as one of those who could easily vote for 9 or 12 songs from this album
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 04:24 (seven years ago)
It does! What a crazy, weird song. So much to process here. I guess l've never actually listed to Sometime in New York City. I agree that it's not nearly as bad as I've been led to believe. The songwriting isn't stellar, but the production and performances have more energy that Mind Games or Walls and Bridges.
― Darin, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 05:36 (seven years ago)
'You Gave Me the Answer' and 'Sisters, O Sisters' both rule - the former being one of the better songs in McCartney's old time mode, the latter being Yoko writing a stellar chorus.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 06:33 (seven years ago)
We got to got to got to got to got to got to got to got to got to got to got to (*five centuries pass*) got to got to set him freeeeee!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 06:36 (seven years ago)
Love the sound of POB, sparse, clear, slightly aggressive, capturing time, but tbh I don't think ATMP sounds very good - the reverb and multitracking makes it unfocused to my ears. Let it Be def the worst sounding Beatles record. Was never a huge Spector fan anyway, in general I prefer my records hifi, and while obv working within a pop framework sounds to me like Spector was more into noise.
― niels, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:11 (seven years ago)
I never really cared for "Some Time in NYC" but listening to it lately, it's not so bad.And "New York City" is basically punk rock, isn't it ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:42 (seven years ago)
from george's notes in the 2001 ATMP reissue…
"All these years later I would like to liberate some of the songs from the big production that seemed appropriate at the time, but now seems a bit over the top with the reverb in the wall of sound."
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 12:56 (seven years ago)
george otm
― niels, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:41 (seven years ago)
Nope
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 14:40 (seven years ago)
"All these years later I would like to liberate some of the songs from the big production that seemed appropriate at the time
George otm re: Cloud Nine.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 14:50 (seven years ago)
― niels, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)
at the speed of sound sounds oddly drowsy (so it feels v similar to red rose speedway to me) but the singles are great and "beware my love" is awesome
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)
i guess "she's my baby" wasn't a single but it should've been one
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
"beware my love" has kind of a norman whitfield-era temptations groove running beneath it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)
the song that has been stuck in my head since i started this post-beatles trawl: "jet"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)
I really don't hear big production CN other than on "If That's What It Takes."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:03 (seven years ago)
i was listening to an unremastered copy of cloud nine last night, sounded p good to me but i don't hate a lot of the artifacts of that production era
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
jeff lynne productions may be infinite prisms of reverb but they still feel v tasteful
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)
i wanna get as far into mccartney's career as possible but it's... so long. still hoping to hear press to play and flowers in the dirt, and i've also always been curious about the fireman records
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
also chaos and creation in the backyard features jason falkner from jellyfish on guitar! (his second appearance in this thread!) so i kinda have to hear that
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
verdict on at the speed of sound is that it has a lovely first side and a drippy second side, but "san ferry anne" is a hell of a deep cut
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:30 (seven years ago)
I've written 60,000 words on "Press" to date and hope to write 12,000 more.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
idk quite what to make of london town but i kinda think it's awesome. the first five tracks, where paul leans into his swervier melodies, seem to set up a weirder record than we actually get though (hopefully a preview of the new wave stuff on back to the egg, which i've still only heard "getting closer" from), as soon as "children children" and "girlfriend" happen it's like we've settled into an actual wings record instead of a cool speculative one. also got v surprised by "girlfriend" bc before this i was only familiar with mj's cover
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
The first side of LT is sweet! Back to the Egg is the one on which conventional wisdom is correct. Sorry, dudes! I love "Arrow Through Me" and the addled "Old Siam, Sir," can tolerate "Getting Closer," and will dump the rest.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:05 (seven years ago)
so so pleasantly surprised by "with a little luck" tho, what a cool song that doesn't seem like it deserves to be almost six minutes long, but then, suddenly, it does!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)
i do like that on every paul record (so far) there's at least a moment if not several where i'm like "oh huh, that's interesting, you've never done that before"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
he's never consistent exactly but his songwriting really grows
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
"London Town" the song should be better-known. the lyric isn't wildly great ("ordinary people it's impossible to meet" - barf) but love that tune and that great soft rainy-day late 70s production....mmmm. in that same vein, but stronger, "With A Little Luck" is one of his very best singles imho. i grew up with it on All The Best so i never had any sense of how well-known or obscure it might be. a #1 in the US! rarely heard now, i fear. don't you feel the comet exploding?
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
a #1 in the US!
i've never heard it in my whole life!
on listen two i may prefer london town to venus and mars. it's the first time aimless and scattered wings has really worked for me. i mean, what in the world is "morse moose"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
a great song
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
it's true. i put it next to "open your box" on my ballot just bc they feel like they belong together
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
here's hoping a london town... naked will someday allow shakey to hear "morse moose" without the "morse code" synth (guitar?) effect running through. though i also think it's fair to follow sic's cue and just rock out to the twin freaks mashup with "coming up." that album for me peaks with "mumbo" but boy it's a garden of trainspotting delights for the lifelong paul fan.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
i guess i love "getting closer" bc it reminds me of abba
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
curious what you think of "Again and Again and Again"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
xgau otm!
London Town [Capitol, 1978]
McCartney's lyricism is so capricious, so given to inanity and icky-poo, that only at its very best--"With a Little Luck" and the affectionate goof on "Famous Groupies"--does it come on strong. But from its slices of life to its romantic reassurances this is nowhere near as feckless as the Old Band on the Run claque claims--even on the one about the fairy who'll invite us to tea Linda adds a few harmonies that are as charming as they're meant to be. And at the very least you have to be impressed by how steadfastly Paul has resisted supersessions--he's been loyal to his group, which has now recorded longer than the Beatles. B
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
Finally checking out Old Wave. Maybe it's just taking a couple days off the Ringo marathon but it's sounding a lot better than those last few records. Would never have picked Ric Ocasek's as a good sound for Ringo and Joe Walsh to try and rip off but it at least clears out all the sonic clutter and just gives us Ringo trying to belt out some rock tunes. Makes me wish this had been combined with Gone Troppo in a Cuban Linx-esque dynamic duo "ex-Beatles have fun going new wave" kinda deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwWVGTRz_fY
^^^ like, this isn't going to change the world or anything but it is wayyyyy more enjoyable than you'd expect from a Ringo cut in 1983. compare to idk Frankie Valli's "Streetfighter" or the Monkees' "Every Step of the Way" and it's damned good. the next song leans charmingly into Ringo's sad-sack schtick with a litany of bad news: "The martians have invaded, it's hopeless."
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
it's pretty inane but not godawful. and yet he couldn't even get a US label to release it.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:05 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
turns out i love it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)
more on old wave: "Be My Baby" taking us back to the trusty old talkbox glories of "Rocky Mountain Way"... "Everybody's In A Hurry But Me" is just a Starr/Walsh/Entwistle/Clapton jam session, apparently... yeah this is a cool album idk man. the cover of "She's About A Mover" doesn't really bring much to the song but it's the kind of thing that should be showing up as a cover on a Ringo record. his cover of "I Keep Forgettin'" doesn't seem to be on youtube. so who knows.
i wish, btw, that george had stuck by covers a bit more! his rendition of "If Not For You" is just so lovely.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)
this is really just my rockist lizard brain getting switched on but my favorite part of any wings song is when the guitars get thick. (np: "old siam, sir")
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
back to the egg is fuckin awesome. the simultaneous synth/guitar solo in "to you"? i love hearing paul this loose but not, like, wild life loose
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)
London Town has its highlights, but I'd rank Venus and Mars and Back to the Egg above it. Love 'Cafe on the Left Bank' and 'With a Little Luck' ... it's interesting that Brad is honing in on a lot of the same songs that I rate highly.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
Okay, Brad is now my favourite person in the entire universe and I'll never post anything snarky on the 1975 thread ever again.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)
someone give me the nobel peace prize
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
nobel prize for lit, thanks to the bits of fiction you've contributed here
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
Egg does benefit from a producer (Chris Thomas) instead of Paul.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
you gotta defrost your ears re: back to the egg alfred
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:51 (seven years ago)
listening to "To You" for the first time in years and wondering why Paul is shouting on my neck.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
u love "old siam"! embrace shouty paul
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:53 (seven years ago)
I didn't say I loved it – sometimes Paul has moments of lunacy only he can record.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
The descending section in between the verses (I'm hesitant to call it a chorus) on 'Old Siam Sir' fucking rules.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
And “Spin It On” rules
― timellison, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
yep
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:36 (seven years ago)
McCartney this millennium is his most consistent period with lots of great songs
― timellison, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
I love Chaos and Creation in the Backyard and have a lot of time for Memory Almost Full. Driving Rain I find a bit hit and miss, but it's worth hearing for 'Rinse the Raindrops' alone. New starts off fairly well, but I always end up switching it off about halfway through.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
"That Was Me" and "Ever Present Past" are on my list.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
good LORD how did I miss these lines from "Deliver Your Children": "If you want good hens/You better feed that hen"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
lol good EGGS
like egg yolk, down to the last dropi keep moppin' it up
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)
From what I've read, the hardcore seemed quite down on Memory Almost Full - there's only really one song on there that comes immediately to mind as being awful and that's 'Gratitude' ...
But 'Ever Present Past', 'See Your Sunshine', 'Only Mama Knows', 'Mr. Bellamy' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)
"You Tell Me," "Vintage Clothes," "House of Wax," "The End of the End"
― timellison, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 23:56 (seven years ago)
"Mull of Kintyre": don't believe I ever heard it until the Hits & History comp. Yet is it not so that every British person between the ages of maybe 35-90 knows this song, and that a goodly portion bursts into tears and sings along drunk off they ass when played at the pub? And yet it is utterly unknown to all americans but saddo Beatlemaniacs.
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
yeah, I got into it from the Wings Greatest comp - have never once heard it "in the wild." It's fantastic but I can believe any UK resident who thinks of it as an unbearable overplayed anthem kind of song.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 00:24 (seven years ago)
"Mull of Kintyre". yes i have heard about that song for years, and when i finally heard it, as an America, i was like, what do people see in this song? it def sounded like some English drinking song. apparently it was a giant hit and a beloved classic but i can't see it.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 03:15 (seven years ago)
as an American, not claiming to be the entire country. i have never heard anyone talk about this song irl tho.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 03:16 (seven years ago)
"Mull of Kintyre" is amazing in how tuneless it is. I can never remember how it goes.
Also heard "We Al Stand Together" for the first time today. That song is batshit crazy.
― Darin, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 03:37 (seven years ago)
"London Town" the song should be better-known. the lyric isn't wildly great ("ordinary people it's impossible to meet" - barf) but love that tune and that great soft rainy-day late 70s production
the lyric is kinda bad but also verges on stupid-good for me ("i was accosted by a barker playing a simple tune upon his flute / toot toot toot toot"). regardless the song ascends my ballot every time i listen to it, it's so lovely
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 04:01 (seven years ago)
Wow, "Mull of Kintyre" to me has always sounded like one of those "this tune hasn't existed for hundreds of years?!" things. It's really beautiful imho, let down only by what Tom Ewing pegs as "standard Highlands postcard imagery." I think there's some memorable lyrical turns, and I'd take it over "Rocky Mountain High."
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 04:35 (seven years ago)
though most of this thread has been discussing paul's output, I suspect that Lennon will probably do very well in the top 20
― niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 07:11 (seven years ago)
some of those Linda songs are p cool btw, she's got great attitude
― niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 07:27 (seven years ago)
this playlist is more or less updated btwhttps://open.spotify.com/user/betamaxdk/playlist/61os6iMh4h0qY70BawKB5U
― niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 07:28 (seven years ago)
seems nobody's mentioned "my mummy's dead" but what an urtext for lennon, will def be on my ballot
"one day at a time" is a nice deep cut from Mind Games in that proto-ariel pink vein
for some reason I really like "whatever gets you through the night"
makes a lot of sense that Lennon has a song called "gimme some truth", so many of his songs are attempts at expressing some existential/spiritual/political/deeply personal truth. I'd never thought much of it before reading this thread but, in contrast, paul indeed has a lot of gibberish songs
"long haired lady" is another cool RAM track
RAM and Flaming Pie are my fav Paul albums, BotR 3rd, and I could (but won't) vote for every track on them, shoutouts to "The Song We Were Singing" and "Heaven on a Sunday"
thread has for obv reasons not been too preoccupied with huge songs but "my sweet lord" is such a jam
too late but I think a fun side poll would have been album covers
― niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 08:05 (seven years ago)
can I do a mixed ballot?
― niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 08:44 (seven years ago)
listening to We All Stand Together and irl lolling at work paul you so crazy those frogs wtf
― niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 09:00 (seven years ago)
with something like Harrison's "You" can't help but think that any other singer (apart from Dylan) would have been thrashed by critics for that delivery
― niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:36 (seven years ago)
i've sorta been putting off the lennon deep listening, since george and ringo have more unknown territory for me, but it really is about time i cracked him open, it's been eons since i listened to some of those albums...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:09 (seven years ago)
yeah i thought i was pretty thoroughly familiar with pre-double fantasy lennon but some of the tracks on some time in nyc really surprised me
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:14 (seven years ago)
albeit it was mostly yoko who surprised me
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)
i think the only way i'm going to take advantage of the poll rules is through including a lot of yoko in my ballot. i went through her discography a few months ago but it still feels like i'm getting to know her as a (brilliant, lou reed-esque) songwriter
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
ringo at the peak of his powers on both plastic ono band records
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
otm. i love how Ringo's lack of pretension leads him to the craziest places. he's up for drumming on anything. bet if you ask him about the noisier avant garde material he would say "Oh yeah, we just jammed it out, lads" goofy peace sign
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:19 (seven years ago)
what do you mean?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
Ringo is crazy good on Yoko's stuff, yeah.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
this has got to be about the heaviest thing any of them ever did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCb0TsSIqI0
― Darin, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
Ringo getting into Neu territory on that track
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
for those wondering about how to fill their ballots, I will refer back to the initial posts where I tried to make it clear that *anything* a Beatle played on or had a hand in producing is eligible. So my ballot, for example, ranges well outside John/Paul/George/Ringo solo albums to include tracks from Yoko, Nilsson, David Bowie, the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, Ravi Shankar, Ronnie Spector, the Traveling Wilburys and even the Beach Boys
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
does this one count? not sure about McC's role in the final recording that Cilla Black released:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KyvGnJn5Ms
― Darin, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:38 (seven years ago)
honestly just going through macca solo is filling out my ballot easily. i am voting for a ronnie spector track tho
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
that Cilla Black thing is tricky because really you'd have to vote for the demo, I guess? Macca isn't on her released version.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:43 (seven years ago)
"greenfield morning" is such a cool song
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
This should get a few votes, George's high quality contribution to the Lethal Weapon II soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaDExzJxP0
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
it's on my list. I love the extended demonstration of his slide guitarin'.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
"open your box"/"hirake" is just the coolest song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1VQahA0-dA
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:36 (seven years ago)
approximately infinite universe is one of the best double albums i can think of but i'd like to specifically rep for "catman"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YU5rbfx_Fo
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)
song kinda makes me think of kate bush five years before kate bush
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
I can't stress enough how delighted I am that people have come around on Yoko's stuff so much. I get really irritated when I read people slagging her off and all the implied and/or expressed racism, sexism and rockism that comes along with it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
I'm very much in the camp that feels that Yoko reinvigorated John, opened his mind and - most importantly - made him happy.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
I always wanted to hear a George version of Patience by G'n'R
many thanks to ppl who've posted Yoko piano-y ballads itt
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:11 (seven years ago)
here's another incredible one that should be high on everyone's ballothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLeZTKEVGVk
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
yep!!!
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
also maybe all of her songs on double fantasy are making my ballot
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)
'Give Me Something' rules - New Wave Yoko at her finest.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:58 (seven years ago)
"walking on thin ice" is the best song ever made by anyone let alone by someone who recorded with the beatles
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
Kiss Kiss Kiss made my ballot from Double Fantasy. Dirtbombs did a great cover of that.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
and from Season of Glass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULZrHWe3aZ0
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)
finishing up lennon's discog today, how good is "old dirt road"?
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
I'd say it's pretty good. I didn't vote for it though. Nilsson sure liked it.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)
not sure whose version is better tbh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)
i'm not sure if i'm voting for it but it's a really nice moment on walls and bridges. def voting for "bless you" i think
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)
"steel and glass" sure is "how do you sleep" but with the guitar riff transposed to to horns
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
"Bless You" is good. So much of that album ("What You Got") has this smoke-filled singles lounge vibe circa 1975.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)
I lamed out on Brainwashed, but am digging this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ytCkcYpxCQ
― timellison, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 22:59 (seven years ago)
Wow,I had never heard Mrs.Lennon before but Alex Chilton sure did! It's a dead ringer for Holocaust, right?
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:31 (seven years ago)
Chilton acknowledged he lifted it iirc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:32 (seven years ago)
Did not know that. Thanx.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
lmao "secret friend" is like music made just for me
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:27 (seven years ago)
in 1980 paul mccartney invented balearic deep house
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:28 (seven years ago)
"junior's farm" fuckin' rocks
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 02:46 (seven years ago)
also i really fell in love with "deliver your children" tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMvtzQ8AYPs
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 03:49 (seven years ago)
what do you mean?was thinking if I could do a ballot with a weighted top 10 and then the rest unweighted
but I guess artist polls perhaps don't work that way
― niels, Thursday, 24 May 2018 06:32 (seven years ago)
"Your Way" by McCartney is a very charming little tune
― niels, Thursday, 24 May 2018 07:20 (seven years ago)
I'm quite enjoying London Town. The ballads ostensibly written for or about children are spooky, while the adult ballads sound as if they were written for or about kids.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 12:41 (seven years ago)
lol i think i'm finally done with wings and i just hit 100 tracks
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:11 (seven years ago)
Also: I realized that "With a Little Luck" is the let's-just-spoon-together soft early draft of "Press."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:16 (seven years ago)
man "how do you sleep?" is such a meeeeeannn slow-burn of a song. marred only by the sense that at least as far as we get on record, the grievance is remarkably petty: you think his songs are kinda cheesy? well, okay, so do i sometimes, but idk if he should really lose any sleep over it...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:36 (seven years ago)
even the real explanation is kinda silly. who gets their feelings hurt by a song like "too many people"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:44 (seven years ago)
John Lennon.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
i imagine it's possible that a paranoid/drugged-out lennon took macca's barbs as being far deeper than intended - the "piece of cake" suggesting he is a money-grubbing phony and not a Real Committed Activist And Artist. whereas paul was probably just eating cake that day and said "aha, now there's a song in that!"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:50 (seven years ago)
also i finally got the playlist DL'ed on my phone and man it rules. so great to go from "how do you sleep?" to "love comes to everyone" to "i'll give you a ring."
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:52 (seven years ago)
huh, "ever present past!" this is nice!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:55 (seven years ago)
listened through Brainwashed again recently, nice album, but the song that really stands out is the devastating "Stuck Inside a Cloud," which is finds George trying to reconcile his spirituality with his deteriorating physical health. i mean, the whole album tries to do that, but "Stuck Inside a Cloud" is the most effective.
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino)
He plays every instrument too
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
paul was probably just eating cake that day and said "aha, now there's a song in that!"haha idd
― niels, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
"Too Many People" is an ideal example of Addled Paul. Who else would get his wife to help him scream PIECE OF CAKE?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)
who gets their feelings hurt by a song like "too many people"
maybe he took it as another dig at Yoko. too many people in the studio, one too many
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)
shiiiiit "mindtrain" rules
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
how have i not heard yoko's plastic ono band record? this is amazing!
― marcos, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
ddue waht
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:59 (seven years ago)
number 1 yoko song on my ballot. as good as anything CAN ever did
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)
“mindtrain” is huge
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:12 (seven years ago)
keep taking those mindtrains
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
the Ringo-John rhythm section is so good. probably not that far off from the "noisey tuneless" jams they reportedly did after hours while during the later Sgt. Pepper sessions. some of those were recorded and never released so that is prob something to look forward to...
i agree w Turrican in thinking Yoko was a revitalizing force particularly for John. her art background and Fluxus philosophy gave a structural foundation and a focus to John's more experimental tendencies. before they met, his home recordings were either beautiful ambient mellotron pieces or gaudy faux reggae almost meta-exotica (something that wouldn't really happen until the 90s). the latter is amusing to some but is also a window into completely indulgent, drunken belligerence.
a lot of '66/'67 home recordings were made by John and Ringo on 4 track after some wine or whatever, of them pretending to be at a cocktail lounge serving drinks and singing to guests. i suppose in its own way this was a way of parodying the "mindless consumer" culture of their parents, a well many of that generation would return to again and again (Nilsson's proto braggadocio hip hop "All My Life").
after Yoko joined the picture she had a tempering effect on him. she brought in generative writing/recording processes: the recording of "Revolution" was all about repetition, about droning on this one idea, using that feedback to create some new idea. Neu! is cool because they will just play one chord the whole song, and by repeating that one chord, they find variation in the chord, they can play it quieter, or softer, or louder, or ringing, or with arpeggios, etc. these things that have to be planned in advanced if it is more technically complex material (see Paul) can be improvised on the spot.
it is like meditating, by trying to focusing on one thing (nothing) we are flooded by spontaneously created worlds. all kinds of wonderful things are naturally generated out of necessity of continuing to perform, continuing to create. it is perhaps a different way of creating/experiencing art, a more futuristic, programmatic way. certainly it informed their viral/marketing strategy, the constant press conferences, the "War Is Over" memes, guest spots, live appearances, etc. it was like a livestream or something, just continuously producing (and based on real life) before they took their sabbatical for love of their child.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:55 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L5vvS1pOD4
has this ever been sampled? if not then someone get on it.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:58 (seven years ago)
high on my ballot, dope song
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
i love the drums-and-vocoder breakdown in "Goodnight Tonight".
song is a jam
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
wings ranked:band on the runlondon townback to the eggvenus & mars (i like this record but don't *love* it, who can say why)red rose speedwaywings at the speed of soundwild life
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
shouts out to stand-alone wings singles "junior's farm," "goodnight tonight," "girls' school" and "c moon"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
from my no. 1 and 2 i guess i think that wings were at their best when the sense of them as "band" either had or was in the process of completely falling apart lol
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
and "Sally G"!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
and "Daytime Nighttime Suffering"!
i wanna make a 12 minute techno track out of the annoying synth figure in "temporary secretary" tbh
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
also there is no doubt in my mind after this project that paul is the funkiest beatle
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
and "Wonderful Christmastime!"also, the easily overlooked but crucial pre-wings non-album single: "Another Day" / "Oh Woman Oh Why"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
lol that's an xpost, was not submitting Wonderful Christmastime as funkalthough..........
"oh woman oh why" is on my ballot. love unintelligble screamy paul xp
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
Nah, never liked that one.
― Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
i haven't seen the entire Gimme Some Truth doc (available in shitty quality on youtube), about the making of Imagine, but both of these clips are gripping. as with the Let It Be film, yoko's influence on John and interaction with the others is both really interesting and painful to watch, at times. i agree with the posts above about how her positive artistic influence on John. in general, i can imagine both her and john as huge sources of creative gravity, pulling each other in new directions. yoko is a fountain of ideas in these clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WivoeUdSB8k
You can see John getting irritated with her near the end of the recording of "Imagine" (he stops a runthrough and says "Yoko why don't you go in there and listen instead of being there?", since she was 2 feet behind him.) but then, she also suggested that he use the iconic white piano.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9067LQORNQ
the second one, showing the making of "how do you sleep?" has all sorts of interesting moments, like john playing george an early version and smiling and laughing during at some of the particularly cutting lines. it also shows how different the song could have turned out - elements of the nastiness of the song are present from the beginning, but john was also trying to push a sort of lighter, bouncy reggae edge to it as well. one of the reasons the final result is so good is because it be both nasty and bouncy, so it's fun to watch those separate strands come together here. i really should just watch the rest of the film.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)
because it be both nasty and bouncy
this was a typo but let's just roll with it
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
1. my bad if this is addressed above…but I am struck by how quickly George's slide style —an utterly distinctive tone throughout 1970 to his death— suddenly emerged. It's not on White album, not even on "Old Brown shoe" or 'Something" where he does play slide, but that tone hadn't been refined. It seemed to appear fully realized on ATMP…or does anyone hear it beforehand?
2. re: "oh yeah, we just jammed it out! peaceandlovepeaceandlove!!! Don't imagine that many contributing here are stern people, but for the past five years or so, the below clip has been a persistent meme therein… herewith, Ringo's passive aggressive peace and loving…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAU0l7325w0
― veronica moser, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)
you know who probably loved "temporary secretary"? trent reznor
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
It seemed to appear fully realized on ATMP
imo this is the most fuckin mystical thing
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
wings ranked:band on the runlondon townback to the eggvenus & mars (i like this record but don't *love* it, who can say why)red rose speedwaywings at the speed of soundwild life― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:35 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:35 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not too far off my current ranking:
1. Band on the Run2. Venus and Mars3. Back to the Egg4. London Town5. Red Rose Speedway6. Wings at the Speed of Sound7. Wild Life
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:06 (seven years ago)
this is correct. Even on "Sour Milk Sea" he's still playing stinging lines.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)
aw I love Brad and Turrican's reconciliation
I've always rated George highly as a guitarist - yes, he has his limitations but was always tasteful in his playing... like Ringo was on the drums! His playing seemed to take a huge leap forward between 1968-1971.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
man "sister, o sister" is cool. also props to whoever upped the wonderwall tracks and "simply shady.". this playlist has been such a rewarding listen as a result of these and other such thread picks.realized "oh yoko!" may end up top 20 for me.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:19 (seven years ago)
also, the ringo tracks, even the ones i myself picked out, sound considerably better spiced into the mix, just like ringo on a beatles record. "snookeroo" is great fun, especially right after "ski-ing." (i've apparently had my playlist running in order by song title, which more or less amounts to shuffle in this case.)one lennon-contributing cut i'm obliged to give a shout-out: elton's cover of "lucy in the sky." it gets a bad rap but imo it's a fun listen, and fascinating as it replaces the late-60s psychedelic investigation of childhood's forgotten mysteries and magic, with the mid-70s coke-fueled endless party....
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)
I rate Harrison as one of the guitar greats. Even the most torpid solo song has a heartstopping solo. It's partly why Living in the Material World is a delight to listen to.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)
living in a material world grew on me considerably over the last few days, which previously i had always thought it was a slog. it is a slog but a really unfailingly lovely one
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
depressing to read the yoko slander in the comments of those YT videos, but what do I expect?
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)
i have pretty successfully numbed myself to anything a comments section on the internet might contain except yoko hate. i always get mad
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
Yeah, Yoko hate is just ridiculous.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
*sniff* totally, yoko hate is lame.
― don piano (Ross), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
Living in the Material World has some decent stuff on it - 'Sue Me, Sue You Blues', 'Don't Let Me Wait Too Long', 'The Day The World Gets 'Round' ... I'm not taken with the production - I think Dark Horse (with the exception of George's voice) and Extra Texture sound better, even though as collections of songs they're hit and miss.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
simply shady tho?
― don piano (Ross), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
I like that one.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)
as far as what i'd save on dark horse, which is far from a perfect disc is :
so sad, bye, bye, love, dark horse and simply shady. seems to have a 3 overall on rym. Maligned album
― don piano (Ross), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
i found dark horse really difficult to get through
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
why brad
― add surface noise (Ross), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
idk. i don't actually hate his voice when it gets bad, that's not the issue, but the songs are just kinda... shapeless
i might be describing several harrison solo records at once here
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
my beatle super fan bud has informed me that GH did not play slide on any beatle record… the opening phrase of "something" isn't slide, just sounds like it; JL played lap steel part on "For you blue." It was the Delaney & Bonnie tour which found the former giving GH pointers as such, and he was off to the races.
I too think Living in Mat world is pretty neat; don't like "gimme peace" but like the grandeur without the wall of sound. his shit had a lot of weird chords, time signatures and structures. His singing is awful on Dark Horse.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
^ whut
― add surface noise (Ross), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
the slide revelation baffled me. dark horse singing is awful because he was sick with the flu - see also pussy cats by nilsson
― add surface noise (Ross), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)
It may have been better received if George had held off until his voice was back to full strength. George never really had the most pleasant of voices to listen to to begin with, but the croakiness makes the experience far worse.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
btw playlist watch - we've got two "take it away"s and two "no more lonely nights"es. happy to hear either of those twice back to back, mind you...
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)
Could they not put off vocal tracking for a month? Always seems a weird excuse for bad vocals.
― albvivertine, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)
Dark Horse is bad because the songs are undistinguished too.
ET is awful.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)
Oh hey Brad glad you like Getting Closer, I adore it and most ppl either haven't heard it or don't like it on the offchance they have
― albvivertine, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
excited to dive into tug of war shortly
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
MY SALAMANDER
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
everyone knew this would happen but i'm excited to report i love paul mccartney
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)
I'm curious to know what you make of TOW. The reviews of the reissue didn't do it justice.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)
his shit had a lot of weird chords, time signatures and structures.
Yeah, some of Harrison's chord progressions are quite interesting in a "I didn't expect it to go there" sort of way. Also the meter shifts on things like 'Run of the Mill' and 'Beautiful Girl' (a huge favourite of mine, btw)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
yeah seems like they had to finish it in time for the disastrous tour. also at the peak of his drinking & snorting…
also Tom Scott's playing = the sound of the fuckin' 70s.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
mccartney ii is more interesting than good but i did vote for three songs from it ("coming up," "waterfalls," and "summer's day song") and i'm considering voting for "blue sway"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)
it = dark horse album
― veronica moser, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)
"oh yoko!" may end up top 20 for meone of the most contagiously joyful love songs
btw playlist watchthx, fixed it
― niels, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)
Tug of War at the time was probably the first time McCartney had deliberately set out to make some kind of "blockbuster" record in a very long time - it's all there: being reunited with George Martin, Ringo is on it, along with Stevie Wonder, Carl Perkins etc.
It seems strange to say this now, but McCartney never avoided The Beatles as much as he did during the Wings period, and Tug of War marks the start of him re-embracing all that.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:14 (seven years ago)
The weird thing is, Dark Horse didn't come out until they'd already played 33 of the 45 shows on the tour. And it's not like a George Harrison tour would've tanked if he didn't have a new record out.
(And on fourteen of the dates, he was playing two shows a day, not doing his voice any favors.)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:15 (seven years ago)
Its sister record, Pipes of Peace, which is essentially the Tug of War offcuts, really should have been a series of singles or an EP of the best stuff. McCartney's worst album of the '80s, IMO - not counting Broad Street, of course. A handful of decent tracks, but a lot of filler. Even the hardcore rank it quite low.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)
i've been wondering about pipes of peace. my mom owned it when i was a kid. "say say say" will.... probably be on my ballot
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)
say say say totally rules
― niels, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)
'Say Say Say' and the title track are brilliant... I don't mind 'So Bad' or the other Jackson collab either.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
I can't wait for Brad to get to Press to Play and Flowers in the Dirt...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
Tug of War is so boring. Flowers isnt
― albvivertine, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)
i'm not a "girl is mine" fan, though i might like it better if it weren't surrounded by 8 of the best pop songs of all time.
Say Say Say is very good though
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)
I was thinking about 'The Man', but I don't mind 'The Girl is Mine' either. It does stick out like a sore thumb on Thriller, mind!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)
I've got Tug of War on now and I'm reminded immediately of how much I fucking love love love 'Take It Away' ... the harmonies and the horn lines at the end, but also "you never can know who is listening to you"...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:41 (seven years ago)
i like "take it away" a lot
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
also v surprised by how good "what's that you're doing" is
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)
re: George's slide It seemed to appear fully realized on ATMP
a lot of the slide on that album is by well-established country slide guitar god Pete Drake. he had a novelty hit with proto auto tune "I'm Just a Guitar (Everybody Picks in Me)"
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)
Oh fuck, I'd forgotten 'Ballroom Dancing' was on this. If I remember, Harrison is on record as saying he liked this one. I always felt like this was a bit of a Ringo-type song.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
'The Pound is Sinking' = still amazing.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
"Ballroom Dancing" a Ringo song in tone for sure, though he could never have sung it. "Get It" would have been a good fit for him.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
Yeah, no way could Ringo have done that sudden leap in octave that McCartney does. I used to not think much of 'Get It', but it's sounding great this go-round.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:11 (seven years ago)
too bad i don't like "How Many People?" I could've made a nice "How Many People"-"Too Many People" sequence on my ballot.
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:11 (seven years ago)
"What's That You're Doin'" is charming. I love when the two start improvising in the last two minutes over that chord change -- Wonder even lapsing into "She Loves You."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
god "how many people" is dire. "what's that you're doing" is a real good time though.listening back to some of the early lennon stuff, i really like the overall sound and his fired-up delivery, but mannnn i have just never really gotten on board with klaus voormann on bass - maybe his playing or the way he's recorded, i don't know. i recognize that the bass sound/approach is totally appropriate to what john and yoko are exploring, the droney relentless kind of thing discussed upthread (where even "well well well" which sounds about two minutes long in my head, is 5:00+)...... but i just can't help hearing it as annoyingly imprecise, with each of the nigh-monotonous notes hitting ringo's 1s and 3s like sandbags. i have to wonder if on some level john's musical credo for the POB incorporated a basically anti-mccartney theory of bass guitar, like a dating profile that's clearly a thinly-veiled screed against the last person dated. "looking for someone real authentic, NOT FANCY, who'll just stick with one note per chord and really thud it out ad nauseum! rock and roll, not some MUSIC HALL BULLSHIT FOR GRANNY OR JAZZ!!! must be chill cause i am too :)"meanwhile "uncle albert" still blows my mind. they're so passionate about the hands across the water! the rising chords under the first "heads across the sky" is such a great sound too - similar to a few other patches on ram and thereabouts ("a love for you") and then he never really sounds like this again. love the sonic variety of wings albums but if paul's entire discography had the soundscape and the density of ideas as Ram i would not complain.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)
I'd live in Uncle Albert's world before the dude in "Well Well Well"s, but I ain't listening to a song about him, especially one with funny accents.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
Klaus's bass style is his own. he had been playing bass for several years prior to POB, notably on all Manfred Mann's hit singles. he didn't have a rock n roll background but a jazz one. fwiw i dont see Lennon dictating what everybody plays in that instance, Dr. C may be jumping to conclusions a bit there.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)
i mean he produced Trio's "Da Da Da". a droney German krautrock thing is kinda his thing.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)
idk i think Klaus' minimalist playing fits the quieter songs quite well. love his chordal work on "Hold On." but yeah, i get where Doc C is coming from on the rock-ier tracks on the album. I've always loved "Well, Well, Well," though, with that nasty guitar figure
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:03 (seven years ago)
John's guitar on the Ono Band albums is almost unique enough to make me prefer him to George's.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)
i mean don't forget his solo on "walking on thin ice"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)
adam, well, it was idle musing - not saying john definitely stood over KV's shoulder and told him to play a certain way, but just that i hear a certain non-tightness and definitely non-melodicism in his playing choices on e.g. "well well well" and "power to the people." and that adds up to reminding me of other people going solo and enthusiastically embracing things that would never have flown in their old group. as much, I'd say, as paul's bass on his solo records does. so much business on the bass, mixed so loud - few non-bass-playing band leaders would have ever given it the thumbs up.but a lot of what i'm hearing in POB is in the way it's recorded too, and the way the drums are recorded. it's rock, it's energetic rock, but it's very very far away from the kind of rock the beatles started out with, or even something like "paperback writer" or for that matter "come together," "yer blues," and "i want you." then at the same time, i think "power to the people" kind of screams out to have paul singing the verse. it would have been a much better song with the full beatles lineup imo....
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)
that's a funny thought about Power to the People, I can totally hear Paul doing his Little Richard soul shouter thing over it. Of course, it is also a song he would never sing.
I've never been bothered by Klaus' bass playing, never really thought about it. It's certainly not as inventive or melodic as Paul but it does what a bass is supposed to do in the context of the tunes, imo.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
"the pound is sinking" is outstanding
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:35 (seven years ago)
“wanderlust” is incredibly lovely as well. this record seems stranded between at least three identities but the introverted orchestral pop part is great
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:44 (seven years ago)
He's trying, and the strain shows, but it's a fine album. You're otm about those two. Throw in "Somebody Who Cares."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:46 (seven years ago)
"dress me up as a robber" is so bizarre
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:50 (seven years ago)
ack "ebony and ivory"
Marcello on "Here Today":
It is extremely difficult to be even minimally objective about “Here Today”; buried at the end of side one, coming in at less than two-and-a-half minutes in length, it was quite consciously the first McCartney song since “Yesterday” to make use of a string quartet – first violinist Jack Rothstein had previously worked with the Beatles (he crops up in the string sections of “Within You, Without You” and “I Am The Walrus”) – and there is the clear urge to converse with a ghost, taking down the fourth wall for Lennon’s benefit. He wonders aloud what John would think of this song, concludes that he’d probably laugh at it, and thinks about the times they thought they knew – but the balance of “Didn’t understand a thing” and “Never understood a thing” makes you wonder how much they really had in common in the first place. Twice he says “I love you” – something he never seems to have said to Lennon while he was alive – and then reaches the most peculiar of conclusions: “For you were in my song.”
I am not sure what the real Lennon would have made of his ending up as a walk-on player in somebody else’s song, and in spite of the knowledge that McCartney palpably means what he’s singing – even if he doesn’t understand it fully – this air of presupposition may help explain why “Here Today” – though still regularly performed by McCartney on stage – has never become a standard, inspired a thousand cover versions, is scarcely ever heard, and why it doesn’t move me nearly as much as “Walking On Thin Ice” or Roxy Music’s version of “Jealous Guy” or – perhaps best and most shattering of all – Teena Marie’s “Revolution.” It seems too wary, in the sense that it feels like McCartney doing something because somebody told him that it would be a good thing to do and that he ought to do it. Whereas I sense that in his gut McCartney views his own hard work and perseverance as tribute enough; and there is, in any case, a far superior Lennon tribute elsewhere on the record.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:53 (seven years ago)
one of my favorite things marcello's ever written is the mccartney ii post http://nobilliards.blogspot.com/2013/01/paul-mccartney-mccartney-ii.html
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:11 (seven years ago)
there's very little going on in pipes of peace after the first two tracks
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:26 (seven years ago)
It's dead.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:30 (seven years ago)
there are some cool things happening with the arrangements but the songs are just not even written
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:33 (seven years ago)
damn, the credits for press to play
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:43 (seven years ago)
wtf is this record
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)
idk exactly why paul hired hugh padgham but "talk more talk" feels like it's been invaded by a bunch of lost ideas from the third peter gabriel record
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:54 (seven years ago)
or like mccartney trying to write a song from the big chair
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)
Songs I like: Stranglehold, Good Times Coming/Feel the Sun (more the latter), However Absurd, PREEESSSSS
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:57 (seven years ago)
paul mccartney is such a fuckin weirdo
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)
Brad, stop making me change from Sun-El to Paul.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:02 (seven years ago)
who is this record for? i don't understand why it was made. (i'm into it)
"press" is everything you built it up to be alfred. i'm not sure how to describe it. it has reminded me several times of both new order and heart in motion
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:05 (seven years ago)
your first time?!? *envious*
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:05 (seven years ago)
"press" is gonna win this poll
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:06 (seven years ago)
"pretty little head" is over and i feel like my gabriel comparison isn't so exaggerated. also this album doesn't make any SENSE. like what happened at the end of "pretty little head"? i don't know.
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:13 (seven years ago)
There are so many ballads on the recent albums that are better than "Here Today." He is a better writer now than he was then.
― timellison, Friday, 25 May 2018 01:14 (seven years ago)
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson),
Not that I care about intentions, but Hugh Padgham has said Paul had no clue what he wanted, only that he had to make an album. Same experience with Bowie the year before.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
lol i nearly called pipes of peace paul's tonight
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:21 (seven years ago)
HILLMENHILLMEN
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 May 2018 02:47 (seven years ago)
Paul McCartney - Penny LaneJohn Lennon - Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
― flopson, Friday, 25 May 2018 02:49 (seven years ago)
George Harrison - Sheik of Araby
― timellison, Friday, 25 May 2018 02:58 (seven years ago)
All Those Years Ago >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here Today
― Darin, Friday, 25 May 2018 06:25 (seven years ago)
I can't find the post now, but I think on another thread someone suggested that Press To Play = McCartney II, but with all the weird little songs produced in the style of mid 80s blockbuster pop smashes rather than lo-fi demos, which seems accurate?
it's a little sad that he never really did anything as odd and freewheeling as this again, at least under his own name. Starting with Flowers In The Dirt he kind of slips into a kind of careful, respectable elder statesman zone (I like Flowers In The Dirt in though) (and I guess you could argue that the careful, respectable elder statesman stuff starts with Tug Of War and him working with George Martin and self-consciously trying to sound like 'classic' Paul McCartney?)
― soref, Friday, 25 May 2018 08:36 (seven years ago)
Write Away should have been on Press To Play instead of just being a b-side, I think this is maybe the most Jazz FM he ever went?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsRdM8iBHh0
― soref, Friday, 25 May 2018 08:39 (seven years ago)
"Spies Like Us" sucks, doesn't it?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 10:45 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 10:46 (seven years ago)
The second Fireman album - Rushes - is good. Used to listen to it a lot on shrooms in the early 2000s, though always needed to skip an unbearably jarring third track.The third Fireman album - though widely lauded at the time - is sadly dire, as I recall Lex pointed out in a review at the time.
― Luna Schlosser, Friday, 25 May 2018 12:04 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 25, 2018 3:45 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's p bad afaict
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:36 (seven years ago)
"write away" is good though!
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:45 (seven years ago)
whoever this was is otm
it's not a perfect record by any means but i'm thrilled that it exists
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:46 (seven years ago)
like a dating profile that's clearly a thinly-veiled screed against the last person dated. "looking for someone real authentic, NOT FANCY, who'll just stick with one note per chord and really thud it out ad nauseum! rock and roll, not some MUSIC HALL BULLSHIT FOR GRANNY OR JAZZ!!! must be chill cause i am too :)"
― niels, Friday, 25 May 2018 14:03 (seven years ago)
glad you guys like Press
doesn't really do anything for me
― niels, Friday, 25 May 2018 14:04 (seven years ago)
"Dark Horse" (title track) is really one that I can almost hear done by the Beatles. Would have been awesome! (With Harrison in good voice, of course.)
― timellison, Friday, 25 May 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
"why not" is one of the coolest pieces of music i've heard all year
― marcos, Friday, 25 May 2018 14:23 (seven years ago)
heh, i just got through listening to Dark Horse the album, and can't remember any of the songs, even ones i liked yesterday. i like the sound and the playing all the way through (tho yes the vocals were very hoarse in several places) - peppy, varied, some nice little accents. but not a lot of super strong tunes coming into focus. went back and listened to title track tho and yeah that's not bad, though severely overlong and criminally hobbled by the vocal take. real shame to squander an album's worth of someone's oeuvre by not letting them record it at full strength. but it's got an idea and that main strummy hook and the flute wandering in are nice.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)
"once upon a long ago" is... really good?
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)
I always like when Paul plays lead guitar, and I think he does on "...Long Ago."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:36 (seven years ago)
“wanderlust” is incredibly lovely as well. this record seems stranded between at least three identities but the introverted orchestral pop part is great― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:44 (yesterday) Permalink
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:44 (yesterday) Permalink
'Wanderlust' is one of my favourites - a beautiful song, but also quite funny when you find out it was actually written about a real incident that happened during the recording of London Town. They were recording on a boat (not called Wanderlust, although that was the name of one of the other boats) and were sufficiently far enough away from land where McCartney could smoke his spliffs without any trouble. Unfortunately, the captain was anti-drugs and threatened to bring the boat in to get Paul busted.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
i identify with paul’s dedication to weed
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:27 (seven years ago)
McCartney wanted to work with Padgham simply because he was a hot name at the time with Genesis and Phil Collins, and The Police before that. He fell out with both Padgham and Eric Stewart during that record. 'Only Love Remains' and 'Press' are my favourite tracks during this period. 'Once Upon a Long Ago', from roughly around this time (although later than Press to Play rules. 'Spies Like Us' is crap, I agree.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
As for Klaus Voorman, I can't say I'm much of a fan of his playing either.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)
flowers in the dirt is pretty good! think i enjoyed every track except “how many ppl.” i did lmao a little through “motor of love”
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:50 (seven years ago)
The thing about 'Motor of Love' is that I really, really like the tune but jesus christ that lyric.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)
Rough Ride is a nothing.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:53 (seven years ago)
I love Figure of Eight beyond reason. So loose!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)
I'll warn you in advance, Off the Ground isn't one of McCartney's better albums... I wouldn't call it an awful record, but it does have more than a few bland moments.
'The Lovers That Never Were' fucking rules, though.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:56 (seven years ago)
'Figure of Eight' is one of my favourite McCartney songs, plus 'My Brave Face', 'Distractions', 'Put It There', 'We Got Married', 'This One', 'That Day Is Done' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:57 (seven years ago)
after flowers i might check out flaming pie, chaos and creation, memory almost full, and the last two fireman records, which lol sounds like a lot of albums still but i’m not gonna exhaustively approach post-‘80s paul
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
“figure of eight” and “we got married” are both amazing
Yeah, that pretty much covers all the stuff that I'd suggest you must hear, but you have to hear 'Rinse the Raindrops' from Driving Rain at the very least!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 17:05 (seven years ago)
and twin freaks!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 May 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
oh yeah that’s on the list
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 25 May 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
man I dunno how you guys can brave all of Macca's post 1980 output, it's so dire. I couldn't make it through "The Pound is Sinking".
Coming to the conclusion that Paul is definitely the *weirdest* Beatle, he's kind of inscrutable in his stoner randomness and bad judgment.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 25 May 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)
the listener's patience is running right out, and only the strong are survivors
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 May 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
I know David Gilmour reprises his magnificent "No More Lonely Nights" solo in "We Got Married," but it works.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
I haven't been doing much new listening for this poll, but I started Chaos & Creation last week and really liked "How Kind of You" -- it reminded me of something else but I wasn't sure what. Finally got around to reading the wiki and thought "oh, right, Radiohead."
― WilliamC, Friday, 25 May 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
It's not that I "brave" McCartney's post-1980 output, it's that I enjoy it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
Yeah seriously. Lots of great albums. It's not hardly as excruciating as braving most of Harrison's albums...
― ColinO, Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:09 (seven years ago)
Though I will admit I am enjoying George's self titled album this last week or so.
― ColinO, Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:10 (seven years ago)
There's waaaay less of Harrison's albums!
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:13 (seven years ago)
Harrison only has three '80s albums!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
Just meant george's albums in general. But point taken.
― ColinO, Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:10 (seven years ago)
each one better than the last, frankly
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:12 (seven years ago)
I don't know what my resistance was with Brainwashed! I freaking love George Harrison.
― timellison, Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:15 (seven years ago)
New > Flaming Pie
― timellison, Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
New is pretty incredible
― karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 26 May 2018 03:35 (seven years ago)
I haven't contributed much to this thread, but I must admit I've really enjoyed it. Good work everyone!! And I can definitely see my using this as a guide for perusing, or some of them not, these records in the future.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Saturday, 26 May 2018 04:32 (seven years ago)
It's not just a lovin' machine, it doesn't work out if you don't work at it!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 26 May 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
1. While I like the idea that Press is weird McC I and II shit with an Invisible touch budget, I didn't dig it on first listen last night. Yet I remember from a 1986 RS cover story that Townshend and Phil play with Paul on "angry," a song which he claimed then had something to do with being mad that thatcher did not want sanctions against South Africa. "wow," 15 year old me thought, "that might be pretty rockin.'" 32 years later, I learn that its pretty darn weak for one of his "okay, now THIS is the RAWK tune on this album" selections.
2. Wild Life is the worst record I've heard yet from my trawl through 70s Harrison and McC. At least Red rose has Little Lamb Dragonfly.
― veronica moser, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:08 (seven years ago)
idk wild life kinda grew on me even though it’s def the worst wings record. “tomorrow” is just too good
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:10 (seven years ago)
has anyone come out of this exercise with a greater appreciation for Denny Laine? Who's the best Wings guitarist?
― veronica moser, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
i never have the slightest idea who's playing what tbh, especially when it's down to just the three of them.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
I asked last week about who played lead after the McCulloughs (or on BOTR).
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)
there's an alternative mix of 'Angry' here which is a little more rockin than the album version (though still not all that rockin)
https://youtu.be/DX6rz64xNNY
hearing this version made me think that 'Angry' is maybe Paul's attempt to 'do' Oingo Boingo?
― soref, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)
should've called it 'oingry'
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)
Who's the best Wings guitarist?
Henry!
― timellison, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
Alfred, are you talking about after London Town?
I think my ballot is just about done, I haven't managed to go through absolutely everything but there's a lot of stuff I've a) heard for the first time or b) re-listened to with fresh ears so thanks to everyone for all the campaigning here. Honestly thought I'd never fill a 100-track ballot when this thread started!
― Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
Sent!
― Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)
I should've been clearer: BOTR. I know the two McCulloughs (and Juber) played lead.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
oklahoma was never like this
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
oh look Paul DOES play the solo in "Press."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
"Beautiful Boy" is all about the simple, elegant (acoustic?) bass line, and that one unexpected, beautiful low note it hits at the end of the first chorus
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 26 May 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
The starting point for 'Angry', according to Eric Stewart, was that McCartney was reading a review and said something like "who the hell do they think they are to try and tell me what to do with my life?" and Stewart was like "yeah, let's write a song around that"
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 26 May 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
also this immortal comment:
"It actually only took two hours to get that track down, which is incredibly quick these days.. .What makes me angry are things like Thatcher’s attitude to the blacks in South Africa… People who burn children with cigarettes. That sort of thing makes me angry — not bad reviews of my albums.”
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 May 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)
Hehehehe! You can see what Lennon meant when he described McCartney as being a good PR person.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 26 May 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)
And of course the Press to Play sessions had the now famous "Hugh, when did you write your last number one?" moment.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 26 May 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)
I can't remember what it was supposed to be a review of now, probably something to do with Broadstreet.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 26 May 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
I'm having a hard time not hearing that quote in an exaggerated Dana Carvey impersonation: "The thing is... burning kids with ciggies... it's no good."
― Darin, Saturday, 26 May 2018 23:16 (seven years ago)
when I read this quote to a friend about twenty years ago, I couldn't finish it cuz I was laughing so hard
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 May 2018 23:32 (seven years ago)
I wrote this piece on the occasion of the FLOWERS reissue.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 May 2018 00:10 (seven years ago)
glancing over the ever-richer playlist, a few "big" john songs it doesn't look like we've covered in the midst of all the wonderful deep-diving:Imagine - anyone going to vote for this? i might not. don't know if that's fair. it's very very hard to hear it fresh. even the other big hits, i can recover the way they initially fascinated me in the mid-90s. i can remember thinking jealous guy was amazing, i can a friend and i both being really struck by #9 dream. but i can't even remember: did "imagine" ever move me, did i ever find it profound...? i must have, right? i was an idealistic kind of teenager.... it's unknowable.Happy Xmas - this i can get behind, though i don't need to hear it often. it's not quite "give peace a chance" but as far as his big-tent singalongs go it's not bad.Mind Games - hearing it in my head it's pretty great but also fuzzy - goes from "Miiiind games" to "----ritual, do the comet wheel" (?) and i can't remember the rest. "Peace on Earth" is in there too....Stand By Me, Just Like Starting Over - i always get these mixed up. I think the latter is pretty good. good middle-aged settled-down love song.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 May 2018 02:23 (seven years ago)
oh you know what RULES though is the ramshackle and pounding Lennon/Nilsson "Subterranean Homesick Blues." hottest thing Nilsson ever cut after "Jump Into The Fire."so interesting that harry and john ended up pals. makes complete sense in terms of lifestyle and humor and so on. musically though harry is much, much more like paul, in a lot of ways that john would elsewhere assert were not his bag in any way.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 May 2018 02:30 (seven years ago)
"What You Got" is another great rocker I always forget about. great sound, that skronky aggressive take on funk... wish he could have done a whole album like that.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 May 2018 02:37 (seven years ago)
ew -- I hate that porn jam
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 May 2018 03:26 (seven years ago)
walls & bridges does sound a bit sad and listless to me (prob cause that's how lennon was when he made it) but some of the material is pretty strong -- going down on love, old dirt road, and of course #9 dream. beef jerky is a crazy track i always forget about -- is that lennon's only instrumental?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 27 May 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)
I'll vote for Imagine - didn't we have a surprisingly active thread last year abt whether it was sappy or genius?
The piano part is great and every once in a while the lyrics still move me - not unlike some of Yoko's conceptual art I think John somehow manages to elevate these platitudes to something that actually makes you think
and the lines You may say I'm a dreamer/But I'm not the only one are just classic amirite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L99x5y7eA4g
― niels, Sunday, 27 May 2018 14:00 (seven years ago)
A lot of rong in this thread imo: Lennon’s Imagine vs Yoko’s Walking on Thin Ice
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 27 May 2018 14:48 (seven years ago)
I am absolutely voting for Imagine
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 27 May 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
ethan hawke’s ballot is p good https://www.buzzfeed.com/ethanhawke/boyhood-the-black-album?utm_term=.yt2BJV3BK#.wygXBeVXl
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 May 2018 14:55 (seven years ago)
I voted for "Imagine".
Οὖτις, did you receive my ballot?
― Darin, Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:30 (seven years ago)
I cant get to my email at the moment but probably!
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)
Thanks!
― Darin, Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
"My Sweet Lord" is the other one that's just this major cultural archetype.
― timellison, Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
not only is Ethan's ballot good but those liner notes are lovely
― niels, Sunday, 27 May 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)
"Rocking Chair in Hawaii" probably the best blues song a Beatle ever did. Comparable to '00s Dylan.
― timellison, Sunday, 27 May 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)
"What You Got" is another great rocker I always forget about. great sound, that skronky aggressive take on funk... wish he could have done a whole album like that.― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, May 27, 2018 2:37 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, May 27, 2018 2:37 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I love this one, easily my favourite deep cut on Walls and Bridges, even though I completely understand what Alfred hates about it. I love that chorus and vocal, though!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 27 May 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
All Things Must Pass is sadly underrepresented in the playlist. Presumably that's because everyone knows it and is planning to vote for like nine songs off it, but still, just in the interest of a well-balanced Beatle playlist:WHAT IS LIFE: love the riff, love the group singalong energy when it gets to the chorus, there's so much going on in the mix but it still feels tight overall. Feel like this got rediscovered sometime in the 00s (was it in Almost Famous?) and became a real indie singalong floor-filler. Justifiably so.APPLE SCRUFFS: My mom was fond of this one, it must have gotten some airplay back in the day...? It's cute! WAH WAH: great multitracking on George's vocals, especially on the "and I know how sweet life can be" part. Such a different take on what a "rocker" song might be - loud, maximalist mix, but not like a fiery, cutting kind of loud.BEWARE OF DARKNESS, ISN'T IT A PITY, I'D HAVE YOU ANYTIME, I DIG LOVE: all excellent songs that i have nothing particular to say about, except they sort of add up to give the texture and feel of this album. Lotta slow builds, lotta serious but not-quite-preachy life advice, plus love and great playing.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
oh and I'm one of those who might seriously vote for "It's Johnny's Birthday." I like George when he's being funny.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
skimming the wiki on ATMP came across this sentence which makes sense in context but still
An uncredited Peter Frampton played acoustic guitar on the country tracks featuring Drake.
― niels, Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
anyway was reading it to confirm if maybe the "george had so many songs he had to release a triple album!" cliche is perhaps a bit overplayed, anyway I guess he ended up releasing around 15 original compositions (and kept an equal amount of demos unreleased) which is a fair deal but nothing unusual imo and if the songs weren't so krishna jammy would have prob fit on a good old single lp
in a way I guess I feel like George is a bit overrated, maybe has smth to do with how my friends reacted to the Scorsese doc (also last week a guy tried to tell me how George was really the melodic genius of the Beatles since supposedly he came up with the little intro motif to And I Love Her, this just a week after a self proclaimed huuuge Pink Floyd fan tried to convince me Waters was the lead singer and the voice most people associate w/ PF, srsly what is up w music fans!)
the Let It Be guitar solo is one of the best solos ever though, George definitely a great player
― niels, Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)
There's three, which one do u mean?
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
“beware of darkness” was nearly my no. 1
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:32 (seven years ago)
i’m of two minds about george. all things must pass was obv a bunch of material arranged in the right way played by the perfect band but the looseness of george’s actual songwriting becomes v apparent in the following solo records. when i criticize them i feel like i’m paul mccartney
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)
it's by no means one of his "great works," but "apple Scruffs" is by an enormous distance my favorite George tune. luv the structure, the backing vox, the solo…the sheer joy…
― veronica moser, Monday, 28 May 2018 00:04 (seven years ago)
I would say Harrison developed a looseness in his songwriting post=ATMP, not that it was present before. And I don't know how much it's present post-Extra Texture, really.
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:30 (seven years ago)
Somewhere in England is my least favorite of his final six albums, but that may be a matter of taste more than something that would lead me to make a criticism about loose songwriting.
"Life Itself" sounds really nice to me right now.
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:36 (seven years ago)
He's McCartney's equal.
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:39 (seven years ago)
The Hoagy Carmichael covers on that record rule, btw!
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:45 (seven years ago)
Why do I underrate "Teardrops???" Never again. Great song.
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
Just feelin like he's taking over from the rain
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)
I should have voted for "Writing's on the Wall," too. Always liked that one. The Beatles could have done a great job on it a la "Long Long Long."
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:57 (seven years ago)
We never talk about new wave George but there it is - "Blood from a Clone"
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 02:04 (seven years ago)
Is that a reference to the Alice Cooper song?
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 May 2018 02:05 (seven years ago)
I don't know. It's about music industry people.
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 02:07 (seven years ago)
"Apple Scruffs" is the perfect Dylan pastiche
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 May 2018 02:28 (seven years ago)
I don’t have the time or energy or residual Beatlemania to participate properly in this thread, but speaking of George and Dylan, I assume you guys still like “If Not For You,” or had that fallen by the wayside?
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 May 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)
better than Dylan's imo
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 May 2018 02:45 (seven years ago)
Heck yeah, beautiful version of that song!
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 02:45 (seven years ago)
yeah I praised it upthread!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 28 May 2018 04:53 (seven years ago)
yup, excellent cover
There's three, which one do u mean?three Let it Be guitar solos? tbh only familiar w the album version
― niels, Monday, 28 May 2018 06:10 (seven years ago)
On 'I Dig Love', it always sounds to me like George is singing "mmm I love dick" in the second verse.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 28 May 2018 09:30 (seven years ago)
also last week a guy tried to tell me how George was really the melodic genius of the Beatles since supposedly he came up with the little intro motif to And I Love Her,
Ha, Paul said something similar in the Scorsese doc ("He made that up on the session...,and if you think about it that's the song. I didn't write that!").
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 May 2018 11:06 (seven years ago)
The riff on 'Atomic' by Blondie is near enough the same, too.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 28 May 2018 11:09 (seven years ago)
ah, I had never noticed : good one !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 28 May 2018 11:32 (seven years ago)
It's a cool riff. It makes the second chord an added sixth chord.
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 12:17 (seven years ago)
hehe
taking sides: Ringo's COOKIES!! on "Early 1970" vs. John's COOKIE on "Hold On"
― niels, Monday, 28 May 2018 12:22 (seven years ago)
This is cool! Shakey had this on the George singles list. From a kids' TV show, 1992.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC8Ap2Z424k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_Rajbun
― timellison, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:32 (seven years ago)
Whoah that is good! I hadnt listened to it
― Οὖτις, Monday, 28 May 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)
hree Let it Be guitar solos? tbh only familiar w the album version
Album version, single version and filmed version are all different iirc
― Οὖτις, Monday, 28 May 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)
what the devil is up with "pretty little head"
― niels, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
loving the Nilsson cover of Subterranean Homesick Blues, but jfc could these guys lay off the saxophones occasionally?
― Darin, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
Arrow Through Me surprisingly good
― niels, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
i can't get overyour powerful motorof love
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)
I saw a cat with a machine in his brainThe man who fed him said he didn't feel any painI'd like to see that man take out that machineAnd stick it in his own brainD'you know what I mean?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
i will not have time to get through ringo on an albums basis but i really like this list https://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/meet-the-beatle-a-guide-to-ringo-starr-s-solo-career-in-20-songs-20150325/
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
Big boys bickeringAnd so the game goes on and onBig boys bickeringFuckin' it up for everyone
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:02 (seven years ago)
I love "Photograph."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
it's a really wonderful song
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:33 (seven years ago)
"It Don't Come Easy" is great, too
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
photograph is a decent song but Ringo doesn't really do anything for it imohe'll feature as a drummer on my ballot, not as a singer
― niels, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:07 (seven years ago)
i've never heard the second wilburys record before. "inside out" is awesome
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
Those classic Lynne ascending/descending chords
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
Ringo sings "Photograph" like a normal person, which gives it its pathos. It's what I also love about Vanessa Williams' "Save The Best for Last."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
damn, jim keltner not only played on 100000000 post-beatles solo records, he's also the drummer on steely dan's "josie"?
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
lol i forgot that the wilburys songs were eligible for this poll
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
I would remind everybody not to forget collabs like the Wilburys, David Bowie's "Fame", Nilsson's "Pussycats", the Fireman, etc. These are all eligible
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
David Bowie's "Fame", Nilsson's "Pussycats"
i'm struggling with these two, to be honest. "Fame" is one of the best pop hits of all time, imo, but i can barely hear john in it. i can hear the trademarks of bowie all over it, but really i only notice lennon's presence in the lyrics? that might just be me. so i'm not sure whether to credit lennon with co-writing one of my favorite songs, or banish it to the lower stretches of the top 100. same kinda deal with "many rivers to cross" (although i think it leans a lot more on the mid-70s lennon sound than "fame")
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
Might be my ears, but I can hear Johns vocal all over it.
'WHASSANAME?'
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
Lennon added one of the (many) interwoven guitar parts and, he says, the backwards piano.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
yeah, there are certain parts where i notice his presence. but the thing is, i guess, that bowie can and did perform the song live, absolutely slaying it. whereas, i can't really imagine what a live lennon version of the song would sound like, without bowie.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
yeah I totally hear John's guitar in "Fame", and his vocal delivery
with "Many Rivers to Cross" John actually re-used the string arrangement for one of his own songs iirc
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)
so just out of curiosity, where did they end up on your ballot, roughly speaking?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
ith "Many Rivers to Cross" John actually re-used the string arrangement for one of his own songs iirc
― Οὖτις,
#9 Dream
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
poussé poussé
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)
Ohhhhh
Now that confirms something I would never have guessed!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSgHPDIXB-0
oh i really like this. lovely power pop
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
as the poll-runner, I am going to be "submitting" my ballot last
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)
(xposts) "Photograph" still my favourite solo-Beatle single.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H_LhyzZ7sg
finally made it to the fireman records. i'm sure this can be written off as competent ambient techno but i loooove it
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)
kinda reminds me of the softer tracks on beaucoup fish
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)
i guess an unspoken subtext of that second fireman record is that it's the first thing paul put out after linda died and her voice is all over it :(
"fluid" is extremely beautiful
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
^^^ this could also be online beatles fans misleading me bc i can find no external confirmation of it
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
I know there's a couple of things on Driving Rain that are about Linda - 'From a Lover to a Friend' being one, which is one of my favourites from that record. Run Devil Run, the rock'n'roll covers album, was his first post-Linda album under his own name.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
I remember when Run Devil Run first came out that some perceived McCartney delving back into the rock'n'roll stuff that he loved when he was younger as being a form of therapy for him after Linda's death.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)
For sure I'm voting for RDR's "No Other Baby," one of the greatest vocals of his career and maybe the only time he's ever sounded anguished.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)
only a couple days before the deadline so get those ballots in folx
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)
i'm nearly done! i can only fit in like three more songs anyway lol
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)
I'll quit dithering and put mine together tonight.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:29 (seven years ago)
everyone pls vote for the fireman's "fluid" with me
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)
would I vote for it?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
idk it's really pretty and 11 minutes long
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)
lol clever dig
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
lol actually my ballot is exactly at 100 rn. maybe i’ll just turn it in. can’t imagine cutting any of these very important wings songs
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)
Voted for two Run Devil Run tracks, "Bluejean Bop" and "Movie Magg."
― timellison, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:04 (seven years ago)
lmao twin freaks is AWESOME. lol’d hard at the “live and let die” remix
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:40 (seven years ago)
the definitive "mumbo"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:08 (seven years ago)
flaming pie is a really nice record, feels like what tug of war wanted to be (idk if that makes any sense)
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:31 (seven years ago)
hey good recommendations y'all, been checked out for a while but thread has delivered
now I gotta relisten to ATMP
― sleeve, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
Brad
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
what
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:47 (seven years ago)
also that wasn't a dig earlier, it is hard for me to tell if the fireman is pedestrian ambient techno or legit good ambient techno, all i know is it was perfect desk job music
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)
I like "Fluid"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:51 (seven years ago)
you know, we tend to forget how solid Flaming Pie is, which got the same good reviews the late 2000s album did and is also forgotten.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:54 (seven years ago)
wow "Wah-Wah" is awesome, had totally forgotten about it
― sleeve, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 01:04 (seven years ago)
Voted!
If I'd tried to rank every single song, I'd have been fiddling with it for another week, so I ranked the absolute cream, then broke the rest into tiers and ran each tier through a randomizer.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 02:25 (seven years ago)
Flaming Pie is very good, yeah - although I'd cut maybe 3 tracks from it to shorten it a bit. 'Beautiful Night' and 'Calico Skies' (which also sounds great in its live incarnation with full band) are both all-time McCartney for me.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 06:35 (seven years ago)
shakey, how important would you say it is that ballot artists are labeled correctly? (say I might confuse Plastic Ono Band with John Lennon or Wings with Paul McCartney...)
― niels, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 07:08 (seven years ago)
I like "Fluid"― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:51 (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:51 (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and fluid if you disagree...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 11:13 (seven years ago)
i got really high last night and listened to chaos and creation for the first time. that album is outstanding
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 12:07 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:05 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was wondering this too, mixed meaning part-ranked and part-unranked
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 13:37 (seven years ago)
can i vote for paul’s “black beatles” vine
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 13:46 (seven years ago)
wait do I have to list the artist as well as the track title? if so, what is the correct format?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:29 (seven years ago)
Artist - Title
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)
wasn't really feeling driving rain and "freedom" is an atrocity but i had to find room for "rise the raindrops" on my ballot
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)
er rinse*
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:33 (seven years ago)
I've always wanted to like Rinse the Raindrops more than I do... the title line will pop into my head but then I'll put on the full song and it just kinda wears me out.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:42 (seven years ago)
I can imagine an enthusiastic Paul protest song called "Raise the Raindrops!"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:44 (seven years ago)
i remember seeing the "lonely road" video on vh1 all the time in 2001/2002
it's really terrible in a specifically 2001/2002 music video way
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
I'm standardizing all the poll entries as part of the vote tabulation process, so as long as you give me some kind of clue as to which artist performed the song I can take it from there.
I don't know how to count unranked entries without being prejudicial or arbitrary, so everything should be ranked plz
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)
I ranked the absolute cream, then broke the rest into tiers and ran each tier through a randomizer.
I did exactly the same thing, got a top 7 and then let Excel do the rest, happy with the result!
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:17 (seven years ago)
So I have to disqualify some stuff I listed, since I just noticed a vote for Leon Russell's "A Song For You". I had the whole album that song is from down as featuring George, but it actually looks like he only played on Dixie Lullaby, Shoot Out on the Plantation, and Hurtsome Body. (Ringo only played on Dixie Lullaby and Shoot Out on the Plantation).
Sorry about that
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
awww, dang
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)
"spinning on an axis" is a really weird song, kinda feels like wings and ram combined
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:38 (seven years ago)
turns out in the end I couldn't not include a few goofy ringo tracks... certainly it's a fool who plays it cool
ballot sent!
― niels, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)
Driving Rain - think I voted She’s Given Up Talking and From a Lover to a Friend!
― timellison, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
those songs are both really good
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)
sorry to just reiterate what i said earlier but wow chaos and creation is SO good
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
12 ballots so far, get 'em in people
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
do Shakes a favoropen the doorand get'em in
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)
kinda lol but mostly sad that How Do You Sleep is on the same album as Imagine
― niels, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:41 (seven years ago)
Imagine Paul sleeping peacefullyI wonder if you can
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:56 (seven years ago)
I take it we're just voting for songs rather than specific versions, yes? Apologies if this is answered somewhere already.
― Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)
It depends. I combined all the votes for the different versions of "Isn't It a Pity" into one, for example, since most people didn't specify which version. But in other cases you need to be clear that you're voting for, say, Wings' version of "Live and Let Die" as opposed to Paul McCartney and the Freelance Hellraiser's remix version. Or Bob Dylan's version of "If Not For You" as opposed to George's.
Live versions are not eligible.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:06 (seven years ago)
"only mama knows" is a really strong late macca rocker
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:38 (seven years ago)
Good website for instrumental credits: https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)
yeah I looked at that a bit
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:03 (seven years ago)
lol i love this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9elQeVfrLOo
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:35 (seven years ago)
ew
this poll is really putting me in touch with my true, deep hatred of Paul McCartney.
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:41 (seven years ago)
sorry sleeve!
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:43 (seven years ago)
haha it's cool, as usual your love for music I cannot stand is inspiring in a weird "takes all kinds" kinda way
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:43 (seven years ago)
there are a couple of Wings tunes down in the lower 30's of my ballot and that's probably gonna be it.
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:45 (seven years ago)
What do you dislike about McCartney enough to flush whole chunks of his music down the toilet?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:54 (seven years ago)
wait, no voting for the live "maybe i'm amazed" and "coming up" ? those were substantial hits!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)
^ racist
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2018 00:59 (seven years ago)
....?!?
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:03 (seven years ago)
the live "Maybe I'm Amazed" sounds mannered imo
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:04 (seven years ago)
"jenny wren" is a lovely song
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:06 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:16 (seven years ago)
jenny wren is astonishing, one of his best
― karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:17 (seven years ago)
after some thought i guess i'm okay with not vote-splitting either of those songs. but if you're considering either for your vote, and you don't know the live ones, check 'em out, maybe it boosts them up a slot or two!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
I think Paul is truly smug and holds his audience in contempt (see multiple references itt to half-assedness at best). At best, it comes across to me as all wink-winky and self-conscious and knowing, which is not a vibe I dig. Plus his worst moments in the Beatles are so so bad that it leaves me profoundly uninterested in investigating into the 80's (esp after enduring the omnipresence of his work in the early 80s). also, I don't really like pop music per se as I'm sure you know, although the nature of subjectivity means that I do end up liking some (partly due to ILM dialectics), and those are pretty much the Wings songs. Music-hall ripoffs and random bedroom experiments and mainstream 80's pop and "rock artist gone classical" generally don't appeal to me.
I also really really like a lot of the work that the other three have done! Being in the 30's is a compliment! There's just less of his stuff.
But it's also totally personal and related to living in the hippie capital of the universe for decades and seeing the worst aspects of Beatles worship. Part of the dislike is undoubtedly subjective and irrational and unfair, for sure, and I happily cop to that.
I promise to skim the Spotify stuff from the 70's I haven't heard. Brad pointed me towards "1985" which is def up there.
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:19 (seven years ago)
coulda used more editing, sorry
oh I also shoulda clarified that I'm only up to 60 or so, very open to additions
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
The half-assedness comes through in the material more than the smugness, which is evident in interviews and Beatle reunions.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:55 (seven years ago)
...?!?
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:59 (seven years ago)
that's not what racism means fwiw
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 31 May 2018 02:02 (seven years ago)
I’ve come to the conclusion that Macca is the funkiest and most versatile Beatle but also the weirdest and most inscrutable, always hiding behind schmaltz or nonsense or charm, which makes him seem like he’s not all there. Like, of all of them he seems the least like a real person in his work, he’s like a strange caricature.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 02:03 (seven years ago)
well put
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 02:31 (seven years ago)
There's something Reagan-esque about Paul's use of amiability as a squid ink.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 02:51 (seven years ago)
McCartney is like that asshole who, when you've broken the workshop up into groups to discuss something, takes it upon himself to report back to the workshop and just says all the stuff that he thinks instead of what the group discussed. This is an unusually specific simile but it came to me fully formed. I do respect a lot of his music though.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 31 May 2018 04:55 (seven years ago)
I did not vote for it since I don't think of it as a McCartney song but I am very happy that this poll has introduced me to Linda's "The Light Comes From Within", she's a good singer too
― niels, Thursday, 31 May 2018 06:31 (seven years ago)
McCartney's dichotomy btwn the FMWTA kayfabe and his more curious interests have diminished him as an artist ever since he started reclaiming his mojo with the McManus collabs. Back To Form Back To Basics Best Since '76 followed by failed attempts to release Carnival Of Light, followed by Back To Form, Four Stars followed by absolutely anonymous ambient techno project, followed by Back To Form 4 ⭐️ followed by sampladelic dub Beatles album but put out on a new minilabel, followed by Back Form 4 ⭐️ followed by a classical record on a classical ghetto label, followed by Just Me And Some Mates Playing Some Rock & Roll Y'Know, Four Stars followed by a weird & creative but totally accessible remix project that could have spawned a few chart singles or straight up been a hits compilation (like Love!) except thathe starts another new label for it and only presses 500 copies on double vinyl.
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2018 07:20 (seven years ago)
that's not what racism means fwiwit's possible I was joking
(it's also possible that most racism is unexamined cultural imperialism)
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2018 07:21 (seven years ago)
paul does have a lot of comeback records, but i’d say his output has been really solid and artistically investigative since chaos. it was mentioned upthread that he settled into a sort of classism with tug of war/flowers/flaming pie s is but, idk, memory almost full i liked pretty much the whole way through and it almost never reminded me of a previous mccartney record. i can’t decide if electric arguments is any good at all but it’s the least in-character “traditional” songwriting exercise he’d done since press.
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 11:52 (seven years ago)
No one at the office yet, so I'm assembling my ballot. Forty-six songs and counting.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 12:00 (seven years ago)
sent my ballot. still haven't heard new but i couldn't imagine finding room for any tracks from it
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:09 (seven years ago)
an arbitrary rule i imposed on my ballot was "no covers," otherwise "if not for you," run devil run, and "you're sixteen" would've figured into it
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:10 (seven years ago)
it has that abrasively aggressive compression so typical of many contemporary records, kept me at a distance
― niels, Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:11 (seven years ago)
are you talking about memory almost full, bc yeah it's v flat and loud
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)
keep onnnnnnnnsleepin in a big barn bed!
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)
pure mccartney is a v solid wide-ranging comp
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:45 (seven years ago)
hope some of you voted for "Hope of Deliverance."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:51 (seven years ago)
xp memory always full has the same thing yeah
dunno if it's been mentioned upthread but lol that FourFiveSeconds has 458 million streams on spotify, Band on the Run (#2 for Macca) has 41 million :P
― niels, Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:52 (seven years ago)
paul should really fire whoever mastered the last two records
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 31, 2018 6:51 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think i voted for something off of every paul album except off the ground and new, sorry alfred :(
well, OTG is pretty spiritless for the most part
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 14:16 (seven years ago)
FMWTA kayfabe
? I know what kayfabe is but what is FMWTA
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
pretty sure i've picked my #1, now to rank all 80 or so other tracks...
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
get those ballots in kids!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:13 (seven years ago)
sent!
― flappy bird, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:14 (seven years ago)
this was already so fun, thank you shakey
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:16 (seven years ago)
results will be interesting
still have no idea what to do about images, I guess I can just do youtubez
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
find an image of George hoovering some coke
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)
part of the problem is that this is such a wide swathe of material there's no real unifying set of graphic images or style that's appropriate across all the entries, since they span a sizeable range of eras, artists, etc.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)
can't go wrong with photos
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
I might just go with sleeve images from discogs idk
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
remember that you can't embed discogs images here
sadly, results cannot be sorted by decade
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
if you know a bit of graphics design maybe you could use the iconic shots from the white album to show whose song it is and just put text on top and then when more than one fab is on the song you could superimpose the pictures so that for instance Ringo's face is behind John'sbest I can come up with
― niels, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
images are a lot of work, ok to skip them imo
― WilliamC, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
agree with this too
― niels, Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
18 ballots in so far, not nearly enough!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)
so far there's not a single song that's made every ballot
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:18 (seven years ago)
shh!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:18 (seven years ago)
waiting until the last minute as usual, you'll get mine tomorrow
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
and there never will be!
i'll have mine tonight! i only made it to 70 or so but i'm trying to do some extra listening to get to a clean 77
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
^^ a worthy goal
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:31 (seven years ago)
ha haaa:
Sylvia Patterson: Were you aware, back in the ’80s, of the full title that Smash Hits used to give you?Paul McCartney: Wacky? Thumbs aloft? Macca… Wacky Thumbs Aloft?SP: “Fab Macca Wacky Thumbs Aloft.”PM: Is that the full thing? You learned it! I loved that, Thumbs Aloft. And funnily enough it was coined by the guy at the time who looked a bit like me. Mark, the editor. So I thought there was something deep and psychological going on there.
Paul McCartney: Wacky? Thumbs aloft? Macca… Wacky Thumbs Aloft?
SP: “Fab Macca Wacky Thumbs Aloft.”
PM: Is that the full thing? You learned it! I loved that, Thumbs Aloft. And funnily enough it was coined by the guy at the time who looked a bit like me. Mark, the editor. So I thought there was something deep and psychological going on there.
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)
I aimed for 77 but tapped out at 72 or so :(
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:34 (seven years ago)
where my ballots at
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:46 (seven years ago)
They're not due til tomorrow right??
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)
yeah but it's easier on me if I don't get like a dozen ballots at 4:55pm (or later) on a Friday
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
Sent! Eighty tracks!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
Sent. It's been over 40 years since I've willingly listened to any of the Postfabs as much as I did in the past week. In the end only 14 out of 100 songs on my ballot were released after 1979.
― Ρεμπετολογια, Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:02 (seven years ago)
if i want to make a list of my top 20 can i do that? how does the point allocation go in that case?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:42 (seven years ago)
it goes as if you would have filled in the other 80.
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:13 (seven years ago)
kinda wish there was an albums side poll with this one!
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)
i nearly made an albums list anyway but if anything it’s even harder to rank
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:22 (seven years ago)
yeah, i think i'd know my top 5 but have no idea where anything would rank within it
also, just submitted my ballot! only ended up with 70
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:33 (seven years ago)
tbh i could be wrong but i feel like a lot of albums lists would have the same top three
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:34 (seven years ago)
made it 30 seconds into "Temporary Secretary" before bailing. I've heard better production and sound on boombox tapes, dear god. I'll try a few more Wings songs but right now I'm listening to "Mind Games" deep cuts
― sleeve, Friday, 1 June 2018 00:34 (seven years ago)
ATMP/Imagine/POB? or maybe Ram or BOTR in there?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:36 (seven years ago)
yeah basically, feels like it'd be a shuffle of those exact albums
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:37 (seven years ago)
plus me aggressively voting for london town or whatever
me registering nine sock puppets to vote for McCartney II and nothing else
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:46 (seven years ago)
wait, I like a track from Off The Ground ("Golden Earth Girl")
what is happening
― sleeve, Friday, 1 June 2018 01:02 (seven years ago)
16 seconds into "Say Say Say" - NO NO NO
― sleeve, Friday, 1 June 2018 01:09 (seven years ago)
could be a good time to listen to the no song
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:17 (seven years ago)
kiss kiss kiss > wah-wah > well well well > say say say >
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
the no no song is pretty good imo
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:29 (seven years ago)
I loathe "No No Song."
I love "Say Say Say."
Consensus!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:39 (seven years ago)
Of the many ways one could chart the general cultural shifts wrought by "The Sixties," the ten years' journey from "she loves you, yeah yeah yeah" to "then she held out a ten-pound bag of cocaine" might be one of the swarthiest but most revealing.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:28 (seven years ago)
First line of your essay, please.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:33 (seven years ago)
Sent! 31 songs strong
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:35 (seven years ago)
xpost no no, no no, I can't take it no further
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:41 (seven years ago)
say, say, say what you want
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:48 (seven years ago)
it's always a good time to reread the 1980 playboy interview
PLAYBOY: "Many people feel that none of the songs Paul has done alone match the songs he did as a Beatle. Do you honestly feel that any of your songs on the Plastic Ono Band records will have the lasting imprint of 'Eleanor Rigby' or 'Strawberry Fields'?"LENNON: "'Imagine,' 'Love' and those Plastic Ono Band songs stand up to any song that was written when I was a Beatle. Now, it may take you 20 or 30 years to appreciate that, but the fact is, if you check those songs out, you will see that it is as good as any fucking stuff that was ever done."
LENNON: "'Imagine,' 'Love' and those Plastic Ono Band songs stand up to any song that was written when I was a Beatle. Now, it may take you 20 or 30 years to appreciate that, but the fact is, if you check those songs out, you will see that it is as good as any fucking stuff that was ever done."
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 03:15 (seven years ago)
I love that book
finished a 77 ballot, very enjoyable thread, thank u all
― sleeve, Friday, 1 June 2018 03:54 (seven years ago)
sent an 81-song ballot
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 June 2018 04:42 (seven years ago)
Sent my 100 song ballot. Phew. Forgot to double-check if George's instrumental version of The Inner Light from the Wonderwall Music bonus tracks was eligible, being a Beatles track too and all, and this thread is now crashing my browser so couldn't scroll back to look there! Anyway.
― Alba, Friday, 1 June 2018 06:11 (seven years ago)
Now, it may take you 20 or 30 years to appreciate that, but the fact is, if you check those songs out, you will see that it is as good as any fucking stuff that was ever done."could not help but read this in the voice of Liam Gallagher
― niels, Friday, 1 June 2018 06:46 (seven years ago)
Sent! 40 songs
― bunny slopes, Friday, 1 June 2018 07:20 (seven years ago)
Thanks to this poll I have It Is 'Him' (Jai Sri Krishna) going round my head on endless repeat. Do earworms count towards the reawakening of original spiritual consciousness?
― Alba, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:03 (seven years ago)
Dammit, I really want to put Loneliness by Yoko on this list, but Lennon doesn't play on it.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:29 (seven years ago)
ugh flagging ate my post but: gonna try my best to get home in time to make a ballot today, and I just threw a last dozen tracks onto the playlist, moooostly stuff that's gotten at least partway namechecked here (e.g. second-tier-but-basically-liked-em cuts from my ringo marathon), plus a couple of big ticket items (Mother, original Maybe I'm Amazed). shockingly not on Spotify: Girls' School, and any of the FitD-era b-sides (Loveliest Thing!!).
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)
just sent my ballot, 77 tracks
― sleeve, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:52 (seven years ago)
I'm voting for the Unplugged version of "That Would Be Something" - will you lump that in with the studio version or is it counted separately?
― CrabalockerFishwife, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:09 (seven years ago)
just realized i didn't include "maybe i'm amazed" at all, whoops. i like it enough to include it near the bottom of my ballot, but in general it's my least favorite popular solo paul song
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
i like that song a lot but it didn’t survive the second draft of my ballot
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:30 (seven years ago)
I'm voting for the Unplugged version of "That Would Be Something" - will you lump that in with the studio version or is it counted separately?This will not be counted afaiu
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)
"second draft"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)
lol it went through a lot of permutations! "permutations"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
i couldn't leave off maybe i'm amazed. it might be corny, but those chords are fantastic.
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 June 2018 16:19 (seven years ago)
I'm getting closerMy salamander
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)
maybe I'm amazed is awesome. I don't think there's anything corny about the song - it's probably McC being his most authentic self.
― Darin, Friday, 1 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
baffled by the love for it to be honest. the only version I've ever really rated is the Faces cover.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
this is technically a live version so it's not eligible
I voted for "maybe I'm amazed" but yeah I was thinking of the Faces cover more than the original tbh
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 1 June 2018 17:13 (seven years ago)
thanks Shakes for informing me of the Faces version but: nah
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)
and it's the worst song on that Faces album too lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
I've never heard this cover until today! It's fantastic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLhoLkTyNkM
― Darin, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
they were just able to do it with more swing and muscle, and Rod's voice is a great match for the sentiment
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
28 ballots in so far, still waiting on Doc C... anyone else?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)
I know this is useless fantasy football but without the Beatles Paul might have been a well regarded kinda quirky artist like Randy Newman, John could've still been a rock star
― niels, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
nah he's too much of a ham. not randy newman, elton john tho
― flappy bird, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
has he really got the pathos for that though?
― niels, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
of course!
― flappy bird, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:26 (seven years ago)
definitely a ham, and a cutesy showboat w ambition and an uncanny melodic sense so he def would have gone somewhere w out John
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
heading home now with visions of getting mine sorted!!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
you can work it out!
― niels, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
Sent! Sixty songs.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
first pass culling from the big lists near the top of the thread - - got it to 174 songs! surely the rest of this won't take too long at all....
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 20:28 (seven years ago)
I think you might be taking this a little too seriously. maybe.
haha i just cut and pasted in everything from the lists posted to thread and deleted everything i couldn't imagine ever voting for. now i'm just doing the standard quick-pass "assign this to tiers 1-4" deal to discover that, indeed, tiers 1-3 already come to about 100, so there are dozens of things in group 4 that will never have a chance and there's no point trying to rank them. fare thee well, "Wrack My Brain."
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
awhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVovCtmCmXU
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)
wld listen to a blind YSI just of Dr Casino's ballot
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)
awww
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:04 (seven years ago)
just let go of "I Lie Around" ;_;
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
listen, having gone through it already, you're going to have to let go of a lot of crucial wings songs
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
though i regret not voting for "big barn bed" higher, you were right about that one doc casino
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
is anybody else besides Doc C still working on a ballot?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
I tried to put one together, but really struggled. If I did submit one, it'd be 100 songs - I just can't decide which 100.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgmXiTG21yM
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)
we're not awarding nobel prizes here guys, just make a list
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:34 (seven years ago)
Betcha there are voters expecting you to extend the deadline, betcha betcha.
― WilliamC, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)
NO
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)
just putting some final polish on and then i can go eat dinner
the ranking is completely insane and i think if i started over there would be almost no correspondence with this list but it's also a list of 100 solo beatles songs i really like so that's fine by me
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)
100 tracks, SENT!
the preponderance of Paul tracks and impossibility of really considering every song in relation to every other means that i had a few big chunks of consecutive and nearly alphabetical Paul surviving from the first round of compiling the list... but i mean generally speaking they're all kinda in the right part of the list so whatever. stoked for the results on this.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
I have absolutely no idea what to expect here, especially since there’s been a lot of badmouthing of the most popular and acclaimed tracks going on
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 June 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)
*rubs hands gleefully*
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)
#1 "Imagine"
― billstevejim, Friday, 1 June 2018 22:32 (seven years ago)
i can think of at least twelve possible no. 1s
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)
crunching stats, will post results monday
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)
you don't know what you got, until you crunch it
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)
“Blow Away” got a shot?
― timellison, Friday, 1 June 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
in the end I did not vote for that frog choir song since it is a bad song but I do hope it will place since it made me laugh every time it came on shuffle
― niels, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:22 (seven years ago)
hey just sent mine -- meant to send it all afternoon but kept getting distracted by work, hope i made the deadline!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 23:43 (seven years ago)
it is technically before 5 PM PST!
― sleeve, Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:46 (seven years ago)
(was)
Was out yesterday evening, is it too late to send one in?
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 2 June 2018 09:33 (seven years ago)
I guess i’ll accept it
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 2 June 2018 15:19 (seven years ago)
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 2 June 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)
How many ballots in the end?
― Alba, Saturday, 2 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
Was listening to Somewhere in England again last night and glad to have found a new friend. It doesn't have anything as tight as "Blow Away," but is probably about as substantial an album as the self-titled in the end. Not sure that it would have been better in its original form with the four songs that were left off, but glad they're using the original album cover now! Lots to like and I think the two songs that I had probably liked the least before, "Unconsciousness Rules" and "That Which I Have Lost," are both nice in their own way as compositions. The tuba in the latter is a gas.
― timellison, Saturday, 2 June 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
i didn't realize that almost all of yoko's POB was recorded in one night! from john's 1970 RS interview:
John: Nobody knows there is a point on the first song on Yoko's track where the guitar comes in and even Yoko thought it was her voice, because we did all Yoko's in one night, the whole session. Except for the track with Ornette Coleman from the past that we put on to show people that she wasn't discovered by the Beatles and that she's been around a few years. We got stuff of her with Cage, Ornette Coleman . . . we are going to put out "Oldies But Goldies" next for Yoko. I'll play it again and talk about it later.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 2 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
I wonder how much (if anything) from the YO/POB session is unreleased, because I’d buy a “complete recordings/sessions” box in a heartbeat.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
yo/pob is just a footnote in the classic albums doc about jl/pob but i was thrilled they devoted even a minute to it
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:12 (seven years ago)
Oh crap I didn't get time to do this I'll just send what I have.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
I am at a bar with a BONKERS Wings karaoke selection. "Magneto and Titanium Man!" "Hold Me Tight" ffs?!?
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:04 (seven years ago)
Lol waht
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:14 (seven years ago)
Affix this to every ILM/ILX poll ever. I will never understand the agony that seems to accompany some of these ballots.
― clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:26 (seven years ago)
the "agony" is fun for those fussing over their ballots!they also have "crackerbox palace" and "tear down" and fuckin "arrow through me." poor ringo just gets his usual 4-5 songs tho :(
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:48 (seven years ago)
"junk," "temporary secretary," "we all stand together" wish y'all were here <3
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:57 (seven years ago)
you cut Junk??????? my #1
― flappy bird, Sunday, 3 June 2018 04:05 (seven years ago)
??? i definitely voted for "junk"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 June 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)
oh sorry i'm confused i only read the last 4-5 posts
― flappy bird, Sunday, 3 June 2018 04:32 (seven years ago)
while the votes are being counted up, general question:
what are the best documentaries that dedicate a significant amount of time to the solo, post-beatles years? is scorsese's Living in the Material World good? i thought the two short clips from the 1988 Imagine film i posted above were gripping, so i definitely plan on watching all of that. are there others i should seek out?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
You should watch Material World. Clapton has a mordant sense of humor (his reaction to being asked what it would've been like if he'd replaced George in 1968), McCartney speaks affectionately and without smarm, and the Wilburys phase is a joy. The middle stretch is a drag, though, and offers few insights into his solo albums post-ATMP.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
thanks! looks like Living in the Material World is up on Netflix, too.
is there anything worth watching that focuses on Paul? or actually, is there anything at all that focuses on him, worthwhile or not? my googling skills are failing me here but i can't seem to come up with much.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
There's Wingspan from 2001. I have not seen any of it since it was first broadcast on TV.
― timellison, Sunday, 3 June 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
There'll not be a decent documentary or book on McCartney until he's long dead, I suspect.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 3 June 2018 22:59 (seven years ago)
the Barry Miles book is generally well regarded?
― niels, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:11 (seven years ago)
It's not bad, but as a book it's very heavy on the Beatles years and I'm tired of reading about that part of McCartney's career, particularly since his post-Beatles career has hardly been uneventful and the Beatles years has been documented in forensic detail so much that there's really nothing new to say about that period anymore. He's had a long post-Beatles career, with a lot of material, and I'd rather hear more about all of that.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 11:34 (seven years ago)
agreed
― niels, Monday, 4 June 2018 13:13 (seven years ago)
The Miles book is much better than "not bad." It is also semi-authorized, so goes out of its way to put a few narratives forward that McCartney felt got short-shrift (such as the "Paul was the experimental one" theme, which is strong). That said, I agree it would be great to get something that discusses his post-Beatles career -- particularly to get under the veneer of whimsical pop stardom which Paul has always glided on in a particularly friction-less way.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 4 June 2018 13:47 (seven years ago)
Exactly! I want to know what's under that veneer, and I suspect there's quite a few things under that veneer that McCartney deems "too personal" to let out into the public. I'm sure that McCartney has his "off" days (as we all do) and his moments of rampant ego (as I would expect from someone in his position) but McCartney has always been careful about his public image, so...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:36 (seven years ago)
Hey, remember when McCartney got busted for cultivation in 1972? (Great excuse, btw.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYWX_hzkJ60
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)
and AGAIN in Japan in 1980!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhX_j26CApg
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)
guy loves his weed
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:52 (seven years ago)
and AGAIN in 1984!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RABMeIg14ds
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:53 (seven years ago)
is it the barry miles book where paul says "got to get you into my life" is about weed? bless
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6477007523_b23188f083_o.jpg
― sleeve, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)
well that's the best thing i've ever read
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:55 (seven years ago)
He's the only Beatle in the Anthology who doesn't show the slightest trace of anger or bitterness. George lets out an exasperated sigh or two (in addition to giving some serious side-eye to Paul when they're all sitting around a table like, "ugh, this fucking guy"), Ringo doesn't hide how much he hated playing live in '66, and they both sound particularly bitter about the Philippines debacle. But even when Paul's talking about the Philippines, or how the others wanted Allen Klein to manage them, he almost sounds cheerful.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
holy hell that Scratch letter is great
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)
Brad and Tarfumes OTM, that letter is a thing of beauty!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:22 (seven years ago)
George lets out an exasperated sigh or two (in addition to giving some serious side-eye to Paul when they're all sitting around a table like, "ugh, this fucking guy"),
There's that moment when he looks like he's going to belt Paul after Paul suggests running through "Blue Moon of Kentucky."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
i'm leaving civilization in a couple hours and by the time i get back this weekend i think the results will be fully rolled out.
looking forward to seeing how it all shakes* out when i get back!*no pun intended
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
ok I got five more ballots over the weekend so voting is officially closed now!
wow @ Scratch letter, that's so great
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
The address alone!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)
George Harrison was a sourpuss.
There. I said it.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 4 June 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)
stating the obvious there
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)
george wrote more songs about money than any other beatle
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)
haha that scratch letter is tremendous
and what's up with that band (wings??) live in Japan video, rocking out!
― niels, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 09:26 (seven years ago)
just discovered there's a results thread going!POLL Those Years Ago: The Beatles Solo Careers Poll Results Thread
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:36 (seven years ago)
just re-downloaded the pre-voting listening playlist. which still rules. thanks again!
also just deleted two dozen songs performed and added to the playlist by an acoustic singer-songwriter named "Stewart Harding" ...
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:10 (six years ago)
Stewart Harding, American singer/songwriter. After toiling in obscurity for the greater part of 2 decades, Harding finally got his big break after posting two dozen songs to a Spotify playlist for a Beatles poll run by internet messageboard ILM[3]. After listening all the way through hundreds of solo Beatles songs, many ILM music fans found themselves mesmerized by the inventive, playful yet melodic Beatles-influenced songs written and performed by Harding. Soon a thread dedicated to Harding's music was posted to ILM[4]. Soon thereafter, the rapturous reception of Harding's music led to a multi-album recording contract with EMI.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:18 (six years ago)
okay fess up which one of us is inventive, playful and melodic singer-songwriter Stewart Harding
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 19:10 (six years ago)
I believed Karl's amazing story.
― Alba, Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:06 (six years ago)
it isn't my story. it's the story of all of us who ever dreamed of finally hitting it big by tacking on some of our songs to someone else's public playlist[2].
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:08 (six years ago)
hahah
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:11 (six years ago)
the wonder of it all baby
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 28 February 2020 22:07 (six years ago)
It’s just another day.
― Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 February 2020 22:54 (six years ago)
but you know who should have put their songs on the playlist to get a big break? Weyes Blood! do y'all know about this artist? she has her own thread - Weyes Blood - but i'm mentioning her here because her songs in my friend's quarantine playlist really scratch the solo Beatles itch for me. check out "Something to Believe" - like a lost George/John teamup album cut if they'd gotten Nico in to sing, sorta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2o_VMWiEw
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:28 (five years ago)
bit of "Without You" too, I suppose
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 4 June 2020 23:27 (five years ago)
weyes blood is a rapturously beloved ilm favorite, i think she reached the top ten of both end-of-year polls last year
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 4 June 2020 23:45 (five years ago)
Love this. I got those vibes a lot too, Doc.
― maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 23:45 (five years ago)
(y'know only she's better)
― maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 23:46 (five years ago)
haha well the secret's out that i'm behind on my old habit of weeding through the annual polls as my primary means of keeping up with "new" music
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 5 June 2020 00:15 (five years ago)
Ha ha - join the club. Though I'm (recently) up to date with Weyes Blood.
― Alba, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:53 (five years ago)
Ha! I just made a playlist for a friend and put "Something to Believe" right next to "All Things Must Pass". The new Weyes Blood album makes me want to go back in time and force George Harrison and Karen Carpenter to collaborate.
― Darin, Friday, 5 June 2020 19:23 (five years ago)
A new angle on my theory that Ringo's solo career should largely have consisted of country-flavored duets: they should have been produced and arranged by George, and Karen Carpenter should have been a regular guest.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 5 June 2020 19:42 (five years ago)
If you're looking for another recent track that's a cousin of All Things Must Pass, try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H1SXeDQcm8
― Alba, Friday, 12 June 2020 16:58 (five years ago)
hey should have been produced and arranged by George, and Karen Carpenter should have been a regular guest.
I like this so long as George insists on Karen drumming.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2020 17:01 (five years ago)
All Things Must Pass album, I should say, not the track. And it starts out more Esher demo.
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― Alba, Friday, 12 June 2020 17:06 (five years ago)
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