RIP Kanye West

Not really

RIP Kanye West

what a farewell

Lol oops

Mods delete this i guess

http://i.imgur.com/pcYHv.jpg

lol

https://i.imgur.com/VzXcJUM.jpg

just start one of these every month from here on out

Shakey are you having a stroke

Of genius

The Stroke of Οὖτις

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When will people stop caring about this guy

Rhetorical q

I feel like Taylor Swift still owe me individual building meter data

For the West campus

lmao oh man the new Kanye album is going to suck isn't it pic.twitter.com/mEcJMJP3Hr

— jordan (@JordanUhl) October 5, 2019

Kanye West does not care about black people

The last 5 kanye albums have sucked

At this point the surprise would be if he released something that didn’t suck.

Kanye said “if they throwing slave nets again how about we all don’t stand in the same place” and the guitarists face fucking sends me 😂😂😭😂😂akskksksksskskdj pic.twitter.com/BZOoFjFzXJ

— 🧖🏾‍♀️ (@asia__vu) October 12, 2019

Reuters: Kanye West publicist pressed Georgia election worker to confess to bogus fraud charges

Weeks after the 2020 election, a Chicago publicist for hip-hop artist Kanye West traveled to the suburban home of Ruby Freeman, a frightened Georgia election worker who was facing death threats after being falsely accused by former President Donald Trump of manipulating votes. The publicist knocked on the door and offered to help.

The visitor, Trevian Kutti, gave her name but didn't say she worked for West, a longtime billionaire friend of Trump. She said she was sent by a "high-profile individual," whom she didn't identify, to give Freeman an urgent message: confess to Trump's voter-fraud allegations, or people would come to her home in 48 hours, and she'd go to jail.

Shocking, shocking new details about Kanye's campaign

shocking
https://floffi.media/images/Dr-Evil-Air-Quotes-Laser.gif

https://pitchfork.com/news/kanye-west-demands-that-billie-eilish-apologize-to-travis-scott/

This guy is such a creep... it actually kind of bums me out how much ppl are still into him (like many folks I work with). I know we've had the whole "Artists you can/can't separate from the art" discussion; I feel like there's no music great enough that I would keep listening to it, if it were created by someone like Kanye. Idk

big co-sign from me, but that's probably no surprise. i'm honestly a little disappointed billie eilish even acknowledged him. clownye, through and through.

“At a concert earlier this week, Eilish stopped her show and said, “I wait for people to be OK before I keep going,” when a fan needed an inhaler.”

Demands an apology for this. Ugh, fuck this dude.

demands an apology on behalf of travis scott.

fuck this dude.

― circa1916, Friday, February 11, 2022 3:17 PM

It is disappointing, and he's grown more disappointing as a human being for quite a while now. Kanye was always a bit of a buffoon, but at least for a good six or seven years, he still felt like a hometown hero, and it was flat out awesome to see him grow by leaps and bounds from The College Dropout to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Beginning with Watch the Throne, I thought his ego and missteps finally overwhelmed his music and since then it's been a continuing downward slide. I have no problem going back to his records from 2004-2010. He at least understood when he was called out for being an ass. I hope that part of him is still there somewhere, even if his own records no longer impress outside of the lyric department.

is this going to be his "DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE" thread?

in that case, i will say this: he's damn good at being a villain. because yikes. this feels especially shitty, even for him.

It's completely shitty and he's become a complete shit. I'm not buying anymore of his work (whether it's his records or seeing his shows) and outside of that post, I virtually never talk about him to anyone anymore. But I hope he changes - it's not likely, but sometimes people surprise you, and if he ever does repent or whatever, I hope it lasts and it hasn't gotten past the point where he's done things that can never be forgiven. (I'm sure it's already past that point for plenty of people.)

I think his problem is, he believes he's in his repentance phase already.

I don't doubt it. I mean, the guy has his own church now, doesn't he?

Anyway, this is why I didn't talk about him anymore - I'm going to go back to ignoring any news about him, pretend he's done as a recording artist, and if he proves me wrong someday, I'll gladly eat crow.

he's on some version of that insufferable born-again christian/former alcoholic where i'm going to applaud the initiative of personal improvement but not waste anymore headspace/money on them.

Oh kanyepaws

it's funny because people are all like yeah he sucks but he's a genius as his music has gotten worse and worse, his production is such basic bullshit now I can't stand it

"Otis" was the last song for me, the last hip hop song, the last song that had any genuine joy

any motherfucker could do ponderous synth pads over basic drums, that's all his new shit is

the Abstract Mindstate album he produced last year that no one paid attention to was the best work he's done in years

Daytona was excellent. Cover was pretty tasteless - wouldn’t surprise me if that was Kanye’s idea.

Jfc that note about Kid Cudi. What a fucking baby

xpost yeah forgot Daytona that was good

Jfc that note about Kid Cudi. What a fucking baby

― frogbs, Saturday, February 12, 2022 5:07 PM

his predilection for picking on young white teenage women is a problem. it's uncomfortable and weird.

Do the universe a favor (please) and don't click links about this clown and whatever nonsense is supposedly happening at present.

The more you click, the more you authorize/urge outlets to keep writing about him.

not until Billie Eilish apologizes to him

xp it probably encourages Kanye to continue being a clown. Awhile back (I think 2016?) he had what seemed like a Twitter meltdown and people were wondering if he was really having a breakdown. But more than few people were reluctant to believe that, especially coming from a monstrously narcissistic publicity whore, and indeed Kanye knew exactly what he was doing.

It's no different than Trump or all the like minded nuts. So...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A

I hate this because there was a time where anti-Kanye sentiment was actually ridiculous and over the top and the "Dubya doesn't care about Black people" was an all-time great moment.

And I loved him through WTT. but this is just fucking depressing

Yes it was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJUNTcOGeSw

I didn't like WTT. The title alone seemed to betray the only thing that was on their mind. I almost wanted to blame Jay-Z who's far more of a marketing entrepreneur than an artist.

I always loved Chuck D's response, which shamed both Jay-Z and Kanye over their obnoxious video to make a big charity donation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=161ZRrJZESA

"This is a polite respect call to the troops , to continue to inspire but reflect the people better. OTIS Redding was a humble country man from Macon Georgia who bought a jet to work in, not flash. He perished in that plane. Heres to hoping that the J & K supergroup can elevate the masses and try a little bit more to reflect OTIS heart rather than swag, because they're too good to be less."

tbf Kanye was an eminently dislikable person even when he was good

He was always a mixed bag but there were a lot more redeeming qualities in his early career

I always loved Trevor Noah's tweet too.

.@TrevorNoah: "Kendrick is what Kanye would have been if the Kardashians didn't get him" https://t.co/gEfQ8o1zTP pic.twitter.com/JUtv4yHHvD

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) February 16, 2016

Jfc that note about Kid Cudi. What a fucking baby

― frogbs, Sunday, February 13, 2022 12:07 PM (four hours ago)

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I almost wanted to blame Jay-Z who's far more of a marketing entrepreneur than an artist.

I'm sorry but this is totally bullshit, Jay's initial run of albums are all absolutely classic and super influential

I know they're massively popular, but I've never been a Jay-Z fan.

Actually, I liked "Empire State of Mind" and I like a lot of stuff where he pops in for a cameo. But I don't play his albums again.

that trevor noah tweet is dogshit

The real dogshit is self-absorbed reality TV culture as personified by the Kardashians' show.

Actually, I liked "Empire State of Mind" and I like a lot of stuff where he pops in for a cameo. But I don't play his albums again.

are you joking?? that's his most dogshit song . I'm taking Reasonable Doubt, In My Lifetime Vol 1 & 2, Streets is Watching, Blueprint. I will never in my life forget seeing the Dead Presidents video on BET (the original single version not the one on Reasonable Doubt), I got goosebumps, was so eerie and he was flowing like no one ever had. my god, like Brooklyn's Finest? Coming of Age? like he spit nothing but classics for a decade

that's just an ahistorical, wrongheaded opinion. period.

maybe you don't like hip hop, which is fine

So it's okay not to love Jay-Z as long as I don't like hip-hop. Makes sense.

In all seriousness, on a technical level, he's impressive, but even when the substance is there (especially before it became more and more about name-checking and marketing god knows what), it didn't sound like a great record. That's one reason why WTT was especially disappointing to me - having Kanye (presumably at his peak) producing an entire album for/with Jay-Z seemed to be good reason to be optimistic.

Have you even heard the actual stuff, before the Black Album? Cuz you keep bringing up the most basic shit

How about we pause for a second and not escalate this into a fight over the internet? Is that cool?

At minimum, in that last post I was at least agreeing with you that the "basic shit" was more of a problem later.

kendrick and 00s kanye are not even remotely stylistically or thematically similar, trevor noah is a hack

Reasonable Doubt and Life and Times of S. Carter are masterpieces.

Lol yeah that Kendrick Lamar / Kanye tweet is a terrible comparison

blaming the kardashians for what kanye became also absolves a lot of his own desires and motivations for linking up with kim and the clan in the first place. the kardashians didn’t “get to him,” he sought them out

He was an idiot way before the Kardashians too.

hey birdistheword - sorry I got heated and acted like a jerk

Most of these are the sort of narcissistic tirades he’s known for nowadays and they all happened before the Kardashians (maybe the last one not, they started dating early 2010’s iirc but I’m not researching the specific date)

https://theweek.com/articles/482620/12-kanye-west-outbursts-timeline?amp

The catalogue of idiocy goes way, way back. There were warning signs but I (speaking for myself) wanted to believe the man was essentially better than that.

Specifically: whatever he said about reading being stupid struck (and still strikes) me as dunderheaded. Regardless of rather of not that is said with personal sincerity, why say it, especially when you’re aware of how many people - and how many other African Americans, in particular - look up to you?

Come on you could tell on College Dropout that he was a self absorbed prick it’s just that the music was more fun

You could tell, yes - and there was stuff on that record that was super gross even back then.

But in 2004, he didn't have the power and influence on mass culture he has today, and the grossness was not out of line with a lot of what was happening in the genre. Yes, frogbs, it was fun and it was new. And we were younger.

Sorry if I'm coming across as antagonistic here. The continued popularity and veneration of this guy is something I think about too much, so I have strong feelings and opinions. But will pull back and just follow the thread.

Raymond, please keep posting.

jay has a couple classic albums and a good amount of classic songs, but he's been coasting on mediocrity for nearly two decades.

bird otm re: clownye's "ţřųmpness" - he definitely taught kanye everything he knows. i had to stop looking at stuff about this latest episode because it's starting to feel like a rickroll or something.

Kanye's mother dying kind of accelerated his spiral.

Granted he wasn't a saint prior but that tragedy really fucked him up. She was only 58

@upper mississippi sh@kedown, thanks man. FWIW, I totally get that my lack of enthusiasm for Jay-Z's entire body of work is a minority opinion. Beyond his massive popularity, he's got his share of critical support and IIRC has at least two comfortable spots in the upper echelons of Rolling Stone's last album poll. I don't want to get in any heated arguments about Jay-Z, but I'll listen to anyone making the case for him. It would be great to hear exactly what his biggest supporters hear in his best work and be tremendously grateful for that - I hope that happens someday.

I thought Noah's joke was hilarious, but a one-liner isn't going to hold up as a complete, much less nuanced, argument.

I feel like the complaints I personally heard about Kanye really started with Late Registration and ballooned even before Graduation came out - I remember right before that album came out in 2007 I was getting pushback from friends who weren't interested in seeing him because of all the baggage he had. My feeling then was that it hadn't compromised his music too much, that it was actually interesting and entertaining to see a gifted but egotistical jackass struggle with those lesser elements about himself. He also felt like a guy who was struggling to engage with the world despite himself.

I do agree with the theory that Kanye losing his mother was probably the beginning of the end, there's no denying how devastating that was. In retrospect, it did lead to a remarkable stage in his career. I still remember the shock of seeing him break down on the following tour whenever he tried to do "Hey Mama" or something in tribute to her. (I actually braced for the same thing to happen when he paid tribute at the Grammy's, but he had it together by then.) Then he had that break-up and 808's and it was shocking to see the guy in pieces like that. IIRC he'd go on talk shows looking depressed, with shades and less grooming...kind of like Joaquin Phoenix's fake breakdown but this seemed for real. That album's only gotten better with age because when are we ever going to see him that exposed and vulnerable again?

(to clarify, I meant 808's remains compelling in terms of the humility and perseverance through inner struggles, not for the sheer voyeurism)

bird, have you seen/heard jay’s mtv unplugged? that could be a way in

I definitely didn't give it a good listen - I rarely listen to anyone's Unplugged appearances. Reading it over, just the Roots alone sounds interesting so will give it a try.

you should just give Reasonable Doubt two or three focused playthroughs and if that doesn't get you, nothing else will.

co-sign on unplugged. one of his career highlights.

reasonable doubt easily one of the most classic of the mid-90s nyc classics.

I'm making short term goals, when the weather folds
Just put away the leathers and put ice on the gold
Chilly with enough bail money to free a big Willy
High stakes, I got more at stake than Philly
Shopping sprees, cop in three, deuce fever IS's fully loaded, ah yes

Bouncing in the Lex Luger, tires smoke like Buddha
50 G's to the crap shooter, n****s can't fade me
Chrome socks beaming, through my peripheral I see ya scheming
Stop dreamin', I leave ya body steaming
N*****s is fiending, what's the meaning
I'm leaning on any n*****s intervening with the sound of my money machinin'

My cup runneth over with hundreds
I'm one of the best n*****s that done it
Six digits and running

I'm another who never got the whole Jay Z thing. Couple great tracks and some good lines but on the whole I just find him mediocre and lacking charisma.

It's ok to be RONG

Jay-Z is from the generation right after I stopped actively listening to hip-hop. He's never done it for me.

There have been a lot of individual Jay Z tracks I've enjoyed, some all on the same album, but no albums of his I take out on any sort of regular basis. That includes Reasonable Doubt, that includes The Blueprint, just not really my thing. I'd have to look at a calendar or something, but I don't think the rap I was listening to at the time included any of the heavy hitters, as far as I can remember. Though I do remember really enjoying Unplugged, which was fun.

I am joining the chorus— I love Reasonable Doubt and a smattering of tracks here and there, but if we're talking NYC rappers from that period, I will always, always stan for Nas over Jay, any day of the week.

As for Kanye, I just don't pay attention to anything he does, tho I still think the picture of the Clipse with Kenny G backstage at one of his concerts is among the funniest images of musicians ever.

It was a musical “E”- Clipse!! Honored to share the stage with these talented guys! #SundayService pic.twitter.com/hbiH0ZcTKR

— Kenny G (@kennyg) October 28, 2019

There have been a lot of individual Jay Z tracks I've enjoyed, some all on the same album, but no albums of his I take out on any sort of regular basis. That includes Reasonable Doubt, that includes The Blueprint, just not really my thing. I'd have to look at a calendar or something, but I don't think the rap I was listening to at the time included any of the heavy hitters, as far as I can remember. Though I do remember really enjoying Unplugged, which was fun.

The first 'just buy the greatest hits' rapper.

S. Carter, ghostwriter
for the right price I even make your ilm posts tighter

The catalogue of idiocy goes way, way back.

"I'm like a fly Malcolm X / Buy any jeans necessary"

Nas' albums between 1996-2002 are far worse than Jay-z's, but the latter's don't exist. In the download era my students didn't think he existed before The Blueprint.

Nas' albums between 1996-2002 are far worse than Jay-z's, but the latter's don't exist. In the download era my students didn't think he existed before The Blueprint.

lol

Is Reasonable Doubt only on Tidal or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3grvCbdONk

sorry - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfia-qfabl5wfDDickRmdmTaSukaK8Y_r

My son is not a fan of most of the rap we're talking about. It bores him, even my beloved "Warning". But to be honest, a lof of old rap doesn't hold up for me - if I was gonna listem to hip-hop from 1996-2009 or whatever I'd probably want a long playlist, not albums. This genre evolves so fast. (There are exceptions that do hold up, of course.)

Kanye's "You always askin' for Buddha, you a Budapest" on the Playboi Carti album was an all time groaner

oh, I should say that Jay Z's Timbaland collabs are all pretty killer.

Yeezus was the last Kanye album I thought had some great stuff on it, and also includes one of my favorite quatrains in rap history.

Which quatrain, table?

this is everything I could ever want from hip hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1swlUtEkXZ0

But I gotta feed Tianna, man
So I move keys, you can call me the Piano Man
Rain, sleet, hail, snow, man
Slang dope, E, hydro, man

keep goin

the roc/state p era I would run through a brick wall for

So he is just publicly harassing his ex wife at this point

all the rap dilettantes coming out against jay, i guess that’s what happens when you have a 25 year career and all the best music is in the first third

he has an Aerosmith problem where he got to be much bigger in pop culture later so some people are talking about Rocks and Toys in the Attic and some people are talking about Pump and Get a Grip

So in this analogy, Kanye West is Alicia Silverstone?

100% of Tru heads love Jay Z, it's written in the oracle

we still hustle till the sun come up

when you have a 25 year career and all the best music is in the first third

jay-z is the simpsons

I haven't been paying close attention to the drama around his Netflix doc, but I just saw the headline for this NY Times article and holy shit, they've been working on this for 20 years? That's ridiculous, imagine if someone was doing a doc on Prince in 1977 or the Beatles in 1961...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/11/arts/music/kanye-west-documentary-jeen-yuhs.html

right? against all better judgement, i'm really looking forward to the it. i'm hoping for the documentary version of "Family Business" and "Last Call"

...looking forward to *it*, even

This isn't *quite* the same, but it could be like watching a film of a favorite actor before they went off the deep end, like "remember when they were a young and charming idealist hoping to make it rather than the spoiled asshole they've become now?" Bittersweet, but regardless, I'm sure the first installment will be good, where Kanye is literally knocking on doors and shopping his demos to people who just smile politely and send him on his way. It's the type of thing every artist has talked about in their bio or doc, but it's crazy when you can actually SEE it.

Looked it up, guess it isn't a quatrain (I hear it as ABCA, it's just AA). It's the one you would expect about Deepak Chopra and 2Pac, I remember listening to the album for the first time on my blastbox riding to a friend's party and I nearly rode off the road and got into an accident when I heard that line.

Kanye is not a real person pic.twitter.com/Fo0sKYwXWP

— Piñata Farms 🪅 (@pinatafarms) February 14, 2022

this dude gonna end up in jail

yeah it's really fucked up how ppl are just laughing this off, it's escalating stalker behavior

My first reaction was laughter due to the absurdity of it all, then one second later I realised these are real people.
Stalking, harassment, really destructive, not good

this is the dumbest high school shit

Mentally ill x power x money x more power x more money x religious "enlightenment"

Literal worst combination.

He's been enabled years past the point of return and it's only going to get worse.

That said, "No More Parties in LA" never fails to affect me. It still sounds just as dope as it did 5-6 years ago.

This is all really disturbing.

this is the dumbest high school shit

It is dumb, but I feel like "dumb high school shit" undersells how dangerous his behavior is becoming. This is textbook abuser behavior.

textbook abuser behavior is absolutely the way lots of high school kids act! they're equally poisonous sometimes.

i find that high school never ended in many ways.

xp - except your average high schooler doesn't have an audience of 13.6 million followers with a not insignificant percentage of that cheering his misogyny and threats of violence on.

https://pitchfork.com/news/kanye-west-says-new-album-donda-2-wont-stream-will-only-be-available-on-his-stem-player/

the stem player is $200 so lol

it'll be available on Soulseek before you even plug the thing in

sure Kanye it'll be out 5 days from now give me a fucking break

Well, at least I’m surprised and somehow proud he didn’t cash in on the NFT scams. I was 100% expecting him to do it.

CUSTOMIZE ANY SONG
SHIPS WITH DONDA
SPLIT ANY SONG INTO STEMS

FEATURES
CONTROL VOCALS, DRUMS, BASS, AND SAMPLES
ISOLATE PARTS
ADD EFFECTS
4 CHANNEL LOSSLESS AUDIO MIXING
REAL TIME LOOP AND SPEED CONTROL
TACTILE EFFECTS
SAVE, PLAYBACK, AND DOWNLOAD MIXES
UPDATE CONTENT AND SOFTWARE

as a concept, i like this a lot. fuck no i'm not buying one.

hes finally just throwing up his hands and going "here, you guys finish this"

Mentally ill x power x money x more power x more money x religious "enlightenment"
Literal worst combination.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:17 AM (three days ago)

Plus "imposter syndrome." You forgot imposter syndrome.

lmao at the FAQ page for this dumb thing

IS THERE A MAXIMUM FILE UPLOAD LENGTH?
10 MINUTES

nice

HOW DO I CONNECT BLUETOOTH?
A QUICK PRESS OF VOLUME UP AND DOWN WILL DISCONNECT, OR RECONNECT

oh cool that will be very convenient. i very rarely hit the volume up or down button when listening to music, after all

my friend Luc bought the stem player for Donda (the first one) and said it is an amazing piece of tech, he was actually really impressed

the player does seem pretty intuitive and incredible, probably worth the money. wish it wasn't attached to this nonsense tho.

xp i think that means pressing up and down at the same time

oh right. me read good.

I don’t really get the device outside of kind of a novelty thing. Not sure I want to fade in/fade out different tracks on a song while I’m listening to it and also does this not require the artist to supply said elements separately or is it sophisticated enough to filter these things out itself?

Also aesthetically it’s like two degrees removed from a Cronenberg interface, which slightly works in its favor imo.

I really don't want to work that hard to listen to a new Kanye album

the faq says "the platform can split any song into stems" but im, uh, skeptical.

Sounds like bullshit but if by some miracle it is not, I would live to know! I would buy anything that could do that

*any Donda 2 song

lol Moka

Surprised he's not releasing it with some Bon Iver stems and Tim McGraw stems and Gaga stems, if he really wants to prove how the whole thing works.

Next he'll announce that each purchase comes with geocache coordinates for the thumb drives you’ll have to dig up, because why not

now i aint saying he a geo digger

there are products that do stem extraction and I'd generally trust them more than Kanye

esp if the Kanye thing is $200 at that price point you could probably get an actual tool that's going to be supported with updates and integrates with other recording software not the passing fancy of a loony

Next he'll announce that each purchase comes with geocache coordinates for the thumb drives you’ll have to dig up, because why not

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, February 18, 2022 3:29 PM bookmarkflaglink

now i aint saying he a geo digger

― class project pat (m bison), Friday, February 18, 2022 4:07 PM bookmarkflaglink

lmao

yeah I found some cheap stem extractors online recently that were a lot cheaper than that. idk if they worked but I don't think that matters in commerce anymore

its so weird to me that its a portable device. like what are the use cases for a portable stem extractor that (unless i misread the faq again) only holds a max of 10 minutes of audio? "pass the aux, i'm going to play 2-3 kanye songs and fade the different parts in & out!"

it's the new puff-puff-give

if Donda 2 exists in any form at all its just stems

stems and seeds

This will be a hit tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVdBlGSgRw

Kirkland Brand "Empire State of Mind"

Yeah no doubt but I can see it getting a lot of play

yeah I'm sure it will but goddamn that's about a blatant a ripoff as I've heard in a long time

It’s actually a “cover” of a chainsmokers song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSwdh3tITwE

I've never been happier I didn't know something

i didnt know kanye was into stems. stems are sick. hopefully we get a francois kevorkian remix françois k live stems mixes

last kanye album had like, at least one genuinely amazing song on it and 2 other decent ones iirc? that’s p much all i can expect at this point

I heard "Remote Control" in a taproom tonight and I think it was the first time I'd ever heard post-Throne Kanye in the wild.

Since we’re talking stems and gear stuff can I ask if anyone knows of a player you could listen to your loops on where you have control of triggering the A/B parts on and off?

Xpost: lol that said of course he had “empire state of mind” as the blueprint. Black and white video, Alicia Keys singing about New York…

I suspect Kanye wasn’t aware of the Chainsmokers song either and he was just googling songs with “new york” in the chorus, because he wanted to make “empire state of mind 2” but he needed a “sampled” song as some sort of scapegoat.

that empire state of fivio sounds terrible btw and i am not looking forward to having to hear it in the wild

fivio is a classic NYC industry plant

It's no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzODMXKxNcU

AZ is one of the greatest

Watched the first episode of the netflix doc.

It’s insane the amount of footage they had for a yet to be famous person. It’s interesting to see the behind curtains of the business in the 90’s.

Funny that not even on those early days Kanye seems very likable. Funniest part is Kanye playing “all falls down” and rapping it in front of different “Roc a fella” employees who just want to keep doing their jobs.

Wayno debunked that scene on Twitter, apparently Kanye had been playing the song like 10 times in a row and everyone thought it was good but also like dude we can't sit here and listen to this all day, but they edited to make everyone else look bad

(and, as always, Kanye look like the misunderstood genius)

https://www.complex.com/music/kanye-west-jeen-yuhs-netflix-documentary-clip-viral-wayno/

Oh that sucks. I Liked the idea that he just annoyed himself into the spotlight.

It’s still not a genius move to play a song several times while people are working even if they liked it the first time.

I think it makes it even more awkward and annoying that way come to think of it.

Wayno talks about that too, this was after the Blueprint, he had just done amazing beats on an instant classic he was hot as fuck as a producer, everyone wanted his beats. in no way, shape or form were people not receptive


he also said people were just annoyed with the camera crews all the time

also Kanye's whole personality didn't jibe with a lot of the Roc who were genuine street dudes

Kanye always has to be the victim in his own mind

I want to see this because I love that era but he's so grating to me now

I was gonna say that I don’t think it paints him as a misunderstood genius, you can see everybody acknowledges him as a great producer, it’s more of a struggle against the label trying to keep him in his producer lane.

my favorite scenes involved either (1) him taking out his retainer, or (2) hanging out with his mom.

Oh yeah Donda is the most likable person in here by a mile.

It’s still not a genius move to play a song several times while people are working even if they liked it the first time.

Reminds me a bit of the story about Bowie playing his new record over and over again at a party until John Lennon asked if they could listen to something else please (and Bowie went off in a pout).

It’s interesting to hear some sort of regret on Scarface’s anecdote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8j4FresWWI

In the doc it seems like he wasn’t into “jesus walks” and he just bails.

So, how is everyone enjoying Donda 2 so far

lol

Seems like the Donda listening livestreams really made a difference in the album being talked about so much. Not sure the same will happen with tonight’s release happening only in IMAX theaters and on the new Pono.

no he still livestreamed this one on youtube, twitch, and the stem player website, just no one really seemed to care this time except the hardcore stans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm2z81kJfCk

this was the stream, it starts at around 2 hours 43 min in. i don't care enough to watch it but looking at fan reactions they're all saying it was a trainwreck with the music still being clearly unfinished (of course, he'll probably do another 3 of these) & major audio/tech problems

Oh this wasn’t cancelled?

Yeah noone is talking about it which means

a) noone was expecting him to deliver a deadline

b) people are tired of him and it’s fucking tuesday.

c) it’s not good enough to talk about it

d) all of the above

when you laid down and I gave you this semen I swear I heard god, the voice of Morgan Freeman

yeah i think no one really cares at all now beyond the hardcore stans now & even they hated this. it's clear he's just doing the same shit as last year yet again - there's not even the novelty to it - it'll be a few months before an album actually materialises

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/sz94i1/postevent_discussion_donda_2_experience/

like look at this lol

The merch lines at Kanye West’s #DONDA2 event 👀pic.twitter.com/cPyz6qyQ50

— XXL Magazine (@XXL) February 23, 2022

Is that really the merch line? Was the event at a white suburban high school?

been expecting a new Donda variant, just not this soon

forks that cannot be an actual lyric, cum on

haha it's very real

Unfortunately it’s real

sad that those with such poetic gifts live lives of suffering

some very creepy samples of Kim in there too

I didn’t even feel the vaguest desire to hear this record, I’m glad no one else cares.

Favorite comment in that Reddit thread is should have been whoopi goldberg and joe rogan for donda 2

some very creepy samples of Kim in there too

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, February 23, 2022 9:58 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah I was afraid he'd do that. there's gonna be no-context emotional voicemails in this isn't there

Lol just heard some snippets and everyone who buyed merch and payed for this shit played themselves.

Conye

Makes sense fucking Elon Musk was there

the real diehards seems convinced that it was just the sound engineer in the venue's fault

he didn't do the stems right

Kanye very much in the Trump zone where no professionals will want to work with him so every endeavor he runs is an inevitable shitshow

my god he's not even remotely trying anymore

watching that half-baked bullshit and reading the stans in the comments is insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxo73ivQJWk

I just can't stop lolling at the stans' insinuation that this is another brilliant album but the levels and timing were just screwed up in the stadium

no way this thing was mastered, that's what happens when you try to play unmastered audio thru stadium sized speakers

checking for dumb kanye lyrics is what jeenyus was really made for i suppose

Wait, who got our kids in some "What are those?"
Why they can't just be in Yeezys with the cargos?
You know Nike don't like me, y'all takin' it too far though
At least have 'em in some Mike's, he play for Chicago

Lol that thing is like a “shreds” video and the noise in the comments section makes it more hilarious.

Who would’ve thought that things like The Onion and the shreds videos would go from parody to premonitions

yeah the comments make me feel like I'm going nuts, dude is just running his voice through a vocoder and bungling the meter & all the comments are like THIS IS SO AHEAD OF ITS TIME

Longing for the days of his insightful verses like

Poopy-di scoop
Scoop-diddy-whoop
Whoop-di-scoop-di-poop
Poop-di-scoopty
Scoopty-whoop

i can't imagine anyone on this thread wants to argue on behalf of kanye's lyricism at any point in his career but the poopity scoop line was just oddball onomatopoeia not half a step away from shimmy shimmy ya shimmy yeah and i never understood why he caught so much er shit for that and not for say rhyming secure with insecure

Because "poopy-di-scoop" is inherently funnier/dumber than "shimmy shimmy ya", c'mon now.

I get your point, but there are hundreds of syllables he could have chosen over "poopy".

I think Poopy-di scoop was him doing the equivalent of taking a knife to a canvas of a beat for a Drake collab.

lift yourself is my favorite beat he's made in years

there are hundreds of syllables he could have chosen over "poopy"

jesus christ, he's the voice of the people.

what's one thing all PEOPLE have in common?

POOP.

it's not hard.

well it is if you ate a whole pizza

i can't imagine anyone on this thread wants to argue on behalf of kanye's lyricism at any point in his career

i mean, i sure will lol. his lyrics were always kind of goofy & he went for some corny rhymes but he was also clever, relatable, and a strong storyteller. there was lots of humor and depth in his early writing... which is one of the reasons he became a superstar. the idea that kanye was always a bad lyricist is blatant revisionist history to me. he's obviously not a great rapper in the q tip sense or whatever but you can't tell me that songs like "spaceship," "drive slow," "touch the sky" that tell his life story vividly w/ a strong POV are bad lyrically, and i'm putting aside stuff like "breathe in breathe out" which is consciously "dumb" but overall intelligently written and unique perspective wise while also still being pretty funny.

at a certain point the fun & the cleverness got sapped from his music and it turned more into bully pulpit esque sermonizing or all the "semen/morgan freeman" level rhymes w/ none of the actual "mayonnaise colored benz i push miracle whips" punchlines qua punchlines. he was still able to carry it w/ stuff like '808s & heartbreaks' and 'yeezus' bcuz of the production or concise new angles of the albums but now we're all the way in the opposite direction where the albums are overlong, he's stuck on the same production style & the lyrics are genuinely terrible.

trying to think of the last time i was impressed with his lyricism…maybe “30 hours”? even that had unfinished bars and a good minute of unrehearsed riffing at the end

the subject matter of that song also makes me think that was a dug up outtake from around the 808s era, so idk if it even counts

yeah 30 Hours and a couple other things on Pablo were the last time I really loved anything he's done

“no more parties in l.a.” was good, but probably a kendrick ghost write

yeah “no more parties in LA” maybe… tho even then there’s some some weird off putting bits. if not i’m going back to like, the first few songs on MBDTF, but even then you were getting some “i’m the king of leona lewis” or “runaway” type stuff that portended the end was imminent

the asshole bleaching couplet was a sign of bad things to come

that line at least had a bit of “ain’t i a stinker” self-awareness that his post-pablo work has lost completely

yeah that's the album where you can still get what made him good but the joy is being drained out of it

this Donda shit is some of the worst rap music I've ever heard, if you wanted to make something that's the opposite of what I like in hip hop it's this

i can't imagine anyone on this thread wants to argue on behalf of kanye's lyricism at any point in his career but the poopity scoop line was just oddball onomatopoeia not half a step away from shimmy shimmy ya shimmy yeah and i never understood why he caught so much er shit for that and not for say rhyming secure with insecure

all I'm saying is that Kanye would normally be trying to rhyme "Mars", "parks", "calls" and "goldfish", so seeing that he's at least discovered what a rhyme actually is is a step in the right direction

― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Friday, April 1, 2011 1:11 PM bookmarkflaglink

She understood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GVixJvt-g

POOP.

it's not hard.

― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, February 23, 2022 2:44 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

maybe yours isn't. but that family with the large milk bill.

you can't tell me that songs like ..."touch the sky" that tell his life story vividly w/ a strong POV are bad lyrically

Baby, I'm goin' on an aeroplane
And I don't know if I'll be back again
Sure enough, I sent the plane tickets
But when she came to kick it, things became different
Any girl I cheated on, sheets I skeeted on
Couldn't keep it at home, thought I needed a Nia Long
I'm tryin' to right my wrongs
But it's funny them same wrongs helped me write this song

a lot of the "fun and cleverness" of kanye's rapping for the first few years is so deeply enmeshed with misogyny and crass bullshit that, as that became synonymous with his overall brand, they've soured and aged phenomenally poorly for me. And that should frankly be true for anybody! It's hard to enjoy workout plan these days! which i mean, okay i'm not gonna bitch about those same issues with cam but cam is a far better rapper and lyricist and I'm not gonna bitch about that with geto boys but scarface is a far better rapper and lyricist and i'm not gonna bitch about that with david banner but etc etc.

if i have any point to make here it's that i don't think i've ever really liked kanye the rapper? Certainly not since i got past thirty. He can be bearable at times but i am at a loss to think of a single song in his entire catalogue where either his rapping or his lyrics are the best thing about that song. Any nominations?

I have liked (and sometimes still like quite a lot when he's working with other people) kanye the producer. "George bush doesn't care about black people" was a moment but his laboratory remake as a post-modernist product appears to have done genuine creative and psychic damage and engendered as toxic a public persona as any pop star i can think of short of r kelly. It's odd to me that people wanna talk about his current work so much or, frankly talk about him so much period but that's the magic of the everlasting fifteen minutes that comes from adding money into the mix. as matt has said numerous times and i agree, it just makes me sad.

forks did you see cam's recent freestyle on funk flex? he's still got it

you can cherry pick cringe kanye lyrics from lots of places, i mean the entire mythos of his life story is that barely anybody working w/ him in the music industry thought he was good at rapping and he had to conjure his own superstardom from thin air. so this is well trodden territory. but i'll just say that i think the first verse of "touch the sky" if we're gonna look at that song tells a unique personal story w/ wit, humor, detail, and realtability in a way that to me has always scanned as great songwriting despite him always having a penchant for leaning into clunkers, but of course that's part of his mythos too, he's not afraid of embarrassment and he believes he can sell anything thru inhuman confidence. even as i've grown to have zero use for kanye the musician and don't really feel like listening to much of his old music bcuz i've been there done that many times and there's lots of other music to be listening to in the world i never had the thought that he wasn't a great writer for a large stretch of his career

[Verse 1: Kanye West]
Back when they thought pink Polos would hurt the Roc
Before Cam got the shit to pop
The doors was closed
I felt like Bad Boy's street team: I couldn't work the locks
Now let's go, take 'em back to the plan
Me and my momma hopped in that U-Haul van
Any pessimists, I ain't talk to them
Plus I ain't have no phone in my apart-a-ment
Let's take 'em back to the club
Least about an hour I stand on line
I just wanted to dance, I went to Jacob an hour
After I got my advance, I just wanted to shine
Jay favorite line: "Dawg, in due time!"
Now he look at me, like, "Damn, dawg! You where I am!"
A hip-hop legend
I think I died in that accident, ‘cause this must be Heaven

but that family with the large milk bill.

semi-embarrassed that I'm "online" enough to get this reference...

rap lyrics are never well served by being written out

yeah the comments make me feel like I'm going nuts, dude is just running his voice through a vocoder and bungling the meter & all the comments are like THIS IS SO AHEAD OF ITS TIME

xxp i mean those are okay bars. They're fine? but are his lyrics or rapping there your favorite part of that song? relistening it to it now, he's clearly in his best voice at this stage in his career but even so the ad libs are distracting and uninspired. the reason i remember touch the sky at all is because of what just blaze did with curtis mayfield.

at no point has kanye's "you can hate me now" navelgazing gravitas appealed to me as either an origin story or as a meaningful wellspring. i find his sense of humor puerile and his lyricism functional to clunky. as far as the behind the curtain peeks he offers I mean he DOES know all these guys so it's like aquaman rapping about hanging out with superman and okay, that has its moments but... i dunno?

even as i've grown to have zero use for kanye the musician

and don't really feel like listening to much of his old music bcuz i've been there done that many times and there's lots of other music to be listening to in the world

i never had the thought that he wasn't a great writer for a large stretch of his career

lol and then "through the wire" came on and yeah i mean that's fresh

thanks for that freestyle recommendation, great fun!
"this rap here/ is a souvenir/ my index/is not for windex/but i make it super clear"

DJP you've always been pretty otm with Kanye's weak rhyming style:

Oh, to dream of what Kanye would rhyme with "Ra's Al Ghul"

― da croupier, Friday, January 7, 2011 10:31 AM bookmarkflaglink

This is Kanye we're talking about, he probably would have tried to rhyme it with "Louis Vuitton"

― Indolence Mission (DJP), Friday, January 7, 2011 10:48 AM bookmarkflaglink

I genuinely liked his lyrics on the first two albums, even if he was far from spotless as a rapper.

TBH our successors on this board 20 years from now will be praising it probably.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, February 23, 2022 5:32 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You speak as if there will be successors on this board. How young is our youngest poster?

I think the semen/Morgan Freeman line is hysterical, when I read it I laughed my ass off.

our youngest poster is 83

Continuing with Edison cylinders?

lol he just put out the unfinished version of the album he played at the event

guess that means it's "finished" though

Second part of the documentary confirms he has always been that guy and only the scale changed.

Pharrell is a really cool dude.

the faq says "the platform can split any song into stems" but im, uh, skeptical.

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), viernes 18 de febrero de 2022 04:59 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sounds like bullshit but if by some miracle it is not, I would live to know! I would buy anything that could do that

― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), viernes 18 de febrero de 2022 05:33 PM (one week ago)

I guess the algorithm isn’t hiding they spy on me anymore because my first recommended video today was this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-lq-z5KM2c

Apparently it does split any song, not super clean in some cases, seems like it takes too much time to upload each track and not really for professional use but looks like a fun toy/gadget.

kind of lol, but also kind of interesting. i hope it serves as the prototype for future devices to expand upon because it does seem like an idea with a lot of cool possibilities.

kanye still a complete douche though.

the dumbest parts is most of his productions now only have 3 or 4 elements there's not that much to fuck around with

yeah everything after TLOP feels like just stems

it's probably just using some ml thing which will probably give ok results but far from perfect for obvious reasons

https://www.thecut.com/2022/02/kanye-west-bipolar-disorder.html

If Kanye wasn't profiting from it I'd seriously consider getting one

A bipolar disorder?

jfc it just gets worse, what a creep

STYLECASTER: Kanye West, Kim Kardashian Look-Alike Chaney Jones Dating, Photos.
https://stylecaster.com/kanye-west-kim-kardashian-look-alike/

Seriously, check out this shot the paparazzi got:

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ab7d7f5b98a7888d760b05f/1531343560901-725Y56YIYUOLTDXOD9CQ/image-asset.jpeg

Can’t tell if that ‘the cut’ article was posted in jest or not.

Stuff like this gives me the creeps.

Reminds me of a close college friend who divorced her husband, and then he married a woman looked exactly like my friend.

Is there any overlap in the history of mankind where someone who repeatedly refers to themselves as a genius is actually a genius? Big if true.

Can’t tell if that ‘the cut’ article was posted in jest or not.

― circa1916, Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:09 AM

glad i'm not the only one.

his entire career goal was to become a self-aware tabloid star.

Didn’t Reggie Bush date Kim and then afterwards date the girl who got a ton of commercial work because she looked so much like her?

Enjoyed other videos on this dude's channel and realized he did a couple on the fall of Kanye. Great stuff and somewhat hilariously on point his use of pro wrestling terms as a means of expressing aspects of hip hop culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgehVhF9D4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7e5BFJa-Ug

Yo, Kayne, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish, but Will Smith had one of the best stage invasions of all time. One of the best stage invasions of all time!

This article is nuts, not that I have $57mil but would think twice about gutting the interiors and removing services if I was going to buy it. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/06/17/kanye-west-tadao-ando-beach-house-malibu

The next month, Ye gave a concert at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium, in Atlanta, to preview likely tracks on an impending album, “Donda.” Then he stayed. For several weeks, at a reported cost of a million dollars a day, he lived and recorded in the stadium. His accommodations were both minimal and imperial: he slept in a narrow bed in the corner of a small, windowless, harshly lit room of painted cinder blocks, in a building that seats seventy thousand people, with a roof that can open to form a circle against the sky.

What the hell.... dude's straight up crazy. This whole article is insanity!

The last ten years have been like the worst-case scenario for everything. What if the absolute worst person was put in charge of the country? What if your favorite recording artists became horribly bat-shit insane? What if the next new disease forced the world into isolation? And we still have global warming on the horizon. Lovely!

You can’t say Donda wasn’t worth it.

Donda wasn't worth it

You can just type it

lmao

I dunno. Movie Directors spend hundreds of millions of dollars to create fake outer space battles. I don’t see how Kanye spending a lot of money to make an album in an unconventional way makes him crazy.

Hard to be humble when you’re stunting in an $80M architectural marvel you defaced

Do albums typically rake in hundreds of millions in their release week these days though?

who fucking cares about this guy -- not even my students do

I dunno. Movie Directors spend hundreds of millions of dollars to create fake outer space battles. I don’t see how Kanye spending a lot of money to make an album in an unconventional way makes him crazy.

but people see those outer space battles onscreen. you can point to where that money went. Kanye's version of that is "what if I bring the same tools I'd use in a studio to a big stadium." like if he needs to track a marching band like Fleetwood Mac, you can have the stadium for a day, but I think making the case that there's any benefit to "we're making it in a stadium."

...will be tough.

Did he survive on ballpark nacho cheese during the recording?

yeah I mean sitting around with a laptop and monitors in a cinder block room in the belly of a football stadium is just dumb

It puts "skin in the game" vs. living in a Public Storage unit.

The problem is Kanye’s albums sound like shit

That is a problem, yes

like yeah dude very cool for you to get such a unique soundstage for you to record into your iPhone with. if they have Wi-Fi you can even browse YouTube for samples in your downtime

I don’t think the financial viability, or even the quality of the final artistic product, should matter. Musicians are responsible for all the costs of their albums. Taking a huge financial risk in pursuit of art is cool, in my opinion. When Coppola or Herzog or even Michael Cimino make fiscally reckless and impractical movies people make documentaries about them.

yeah but with those guys you can at least tell what they spent the money on

If Herzog made Bad Lieutenant 2 and spent $10 million on living in the Superdome, that would be weird.

do people not remember the 'living in the stadium' thing happening? that was all very public at the time, he spent like 10 days living in the stadium and was showing up at soccer games held there during that time, wandering around wearing the same clothes as he'd had at the listening party (he was supposed to release the album a day after a listening party at the stadium but decided to just live there for a bit to 'finish it')

there wasn't any reason to make the album while living in the stadium - he was living & recording in the locker room, lol - no meaningful benefit to that at all. just another case of kanye being extremely impulsive and spending stupid amounts of money on a bad idea that didn't make any sense

If you’re worth $2 billion, why not rent out the Falcons stadium for a hotel, better than investing it in BlackRock or something - but put a bed on the 50 yard line, watch some movies on the Jumbotron.

IIRC David Gilmour rented out the LA Sports Arena just to record one guitar solo on an 80s Floyd album. Why the heck not?

yeah but with those guys you can at least tell what they spent the money on

― frogbs, Wednesday, June 12, 2024 7:37 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the spectacle described here:

do people not remember the 'living in the stadium' thing happening? that was all very public at the time, he spent like 10 days living in the stadium and was showing up at soccer games held there during that time, wandering around wearing the same clothes as he'd had at the listening party

...as dumb as it is, isn't that the thing "we could tell he spent the money on"?

this dude has been on some "my whole life is my art" thing for a while. Probably to him the "living in the stadium wearing my stupid mask" bit was as much of an artistic statement as whatever music he put on the Donda album.

Can’t wait for this guy’s last several albums to be critically praised as misunderstood masterpieces in about 10 years or so.

i know the contractor in that article a little bit from record collector circles. i remember when he was posting stuff where it looked like he was sleeping rough in parking garages, dirty concrete rooms exposed exposed to the elements, showering with bottled water, etc, and thinking "man this dude has really fallen on some hard times, what a tragedy", and turns out he was actually living in one of the most expensive homes in America, absolutely unreal

i liked the part when Kanye takes him back to Nobu for a bath. imagine being told "you will remember this moment as long as you live, appreciate this generosity" and whats actually happening is that your boss is briefly allowing you to experience plumbing.

This stair-aversion is curious

bbq at 9:36 12 Jun 24

I don’t think the financial viability, or even the quality of the final artistic product, should matter. Musicians are responsible for all the costs of their albums. Taking a huge financial risk in pursuit of art is cool, in my opinion. When Coppola or Herzog or even Michael Cimino make fiscally reckless and impractical movies people make documentaries about them.

this is an absolutely absurd post

At that point his net worth was $1 billion plus from Gap and Adidas deals (they hadn't fallen through yet). We all might drop $10 mil on something in that moment.

he apparently talked about the stairs thing in a 2022 interview that's now gone from youtube

“I’m really big on outlawing stairs. And people will get into like arguments with me,” he said. “Everything should be designed like an old folks home because if we’re lucky, we’ll all turn to old folks.”

It's funny when he actually stumbles onto a good point through his veil of stupidity, "universal design" with the aging in mind is absolutely a thing! And a thing we should be better at here! But "outlawing stairs" is not a part of it.

If you outlaw stairs, only outlaws will have stairs

I don’t think the financial viability, or even the quality of the final artistic product, should matter. Musicians are responsible for all the costs of their albums. Taking a huge financial risk in pursuit of art is cool, in my opinion. When Coppola or Herzog or even Michael Cimino make fiscally reckless and impractical movies people make documentaries about them.

― bbq, Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

…what?

great story btw

lol the huge financial risk of...overpaying for rent, yes

The real work of art was all the drugs I did while painting this picture

did Kanye finally create an ilm sock?

He pays someone $100,000 an hour to post here

did Kanye finally create an ilm sock?

Come on. That post isn't half as much of a reach as some of the defenses of Kanye treeship has mounted in the past.

The real work of art was all the drugs I did while painting this picture

HoF post, God bless you for this

the art market got to this point 30 years ago cf damien hurst. wealth and power as subject is pretty well-worn. i guess with it spiraling into greater insanity in the last few decades someone's going to rush in to make art out of the grotesquerie. new extremes but very predictable imo.

Ye could become distracted. On the visit to Home Depot to buy tools, he’d spent an age trying to learn who had lined up plant pots in an appealing way. A sales assistant shrugged. “Well, I want their number,” Ye said, according to Saxon. “That’s how I want my plants to look.” (They didn’t buy any tools.)

This is the kind of eccentricity I like in artists/celebrities, is it really too much to ask that they keep doing this, but don't also go pro-trump, antisemite, anti-vax, etc?

yeah there is tons here that is almost endearing if he weren’t a mentally ill fascist

like if I had unlimited money I’d to dumb stuff with it too but maybe in a slightly more normal way

i mean it's entirely relatable to me as someone who's gone into a store and admired an aesthetic setup, and when i try to achieve something similar at home it looks like the cat did it.

it looks like the cat did it

good descriptor of his output over the last 20 years

Watch the Yarn

best Bowie song

I yam what I yam

like if I had unlimited money I’d to dumb stuff with it too but maybe in a slightly more normal way

yeah i'd definitely be spending money in irrational ways, but it would still be basically understandable as "luxuries of a dumb guy". has there ever been a celebrity who has spent this kind of money in order to aggressively make their life materially worse? like if everything worked out with that house like Kanye wanted, right now he'd be shitting into a hole in the floor in a tiny concrete cell within a larger windowless concrete box, having spent $60m for the privilege. I know weirdo tech billionaires sometimes get way into ultra-ascetic lifestyles and sensory deprivation and stuff, but whatever urge Kanye was following seems like a pretty different thing from that

I guess Howard Hughes comes to mind? But even that still doesnt seem totally similar - with Kanye theres this weird lust for erasure, entombment. its fascinating.

If completed Kanye would have used his Ando hole for two weeks to make one track about how being famous feels like being put in solitary confinement and never set foot in it again.

Come on. That post isn't half as much of a reach as some of the defenses of Kanye treeship has mounted in the past.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, June 13, 2024 1:10 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

not anymore. what i appreciated about kanye in the pass was his confessionalism. he was vulnerable and messy, boastful and regretful, filled with contradictions. he reminded me of robert lowell, as ridiculous as that might sound to you, and i love robert lowell.

anyway, none of this is true of kanye now. politically, he has embraced the idiotic fever dreams of the alt right, and creatively his work has been hard, flat, and mean. (music and design). there is a word for his sensibility, and that word is totalitarian. i wrote this article about it.

https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration/stories/fascist-minimalism-kanye-west-destroys-tadao-ando-home/

bro uno how dark it is for ur album to sound posthumous while ur still alive😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 https://t.co/BVRnMshDKz

— ehsi (@EHSIDaArtist) August 3, 2024

No way I’m listening to it, but my Ye-diehard son reports thusly:

Most of the songs are either very boring, or just straight up unlistenable garbage

also shockingly terrible mixing for a kanye album

Par for the course then

He took hip hop and ripped out the kitchen and bathrooms

there are apparently bunch of kanye verses on this that sound so weird & bad that people are convinced he didn't actually do them & that they're cyhi or ty with an ai filter

breaking

There is a reason Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, is no longer capable of successfully releasing music or clothing. In fact, there are several reasons. But the most serious and the most recent is his dentist, Thomas Connelly. 🧵

— Milo Yiannopoulos (@Nero) August 7, 2024

jesus

https://www.drconnelly.com/

hi im ur dentist have a seat

https://i.postimg.cc/Kj0Mxtyf/Screen-Shot-2024-08-07-at-12-46-48-PM.png

lots of credibility to go around on all sides here

Is it wrong that my first reaction is that Milo is exacting an elaborate and convoluted revenge on someone who ghosted him on Scruff

those pearls are made of human teeth

never go to a dentist who accepts crypto

Oh you think dropping off a bear carcass in Central Park after a long day of falconry and high end steak is weird, let me tell you about my million dollar titanium teeth I got like the dude from the old James Bond movies.

It is such strange times.

I thought Milo was going to say that Kanye couldn't rap anymore because he got a bunch of diamonds put in his mouth.

gotta say i like the idea of an evil manipulative dentist, rare character

https://sychela.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/steve-martin-dental-drill.jpg

Is it wrong that my first reaction is that Milo is exacting an elaborate and convoluted revenge on someone who ghosted him on Scruff

Much like Vance and his desire for a couch's touch, I shall believe this to be true in spite of available evidence.

"Through The Diamond Grill"

Reach out to Lezleigh

milo was kanye's "chief of staff"???

yuup

gotta say i like the idea of an evil manipulative dentist, rare character

― lag∞n, Wednesday, August 7, 2024 2:14 PM (forty-six minutes ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkDykd9ZmXM

Yall are ANTI-DENTITES

Watch the Crown

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2020/05/28/TELEMMGLPICT000231957344_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqB1hv6Y8HU52iuoXtIM681LkhS3av0sV8zZVNKroB79s.jpeg?imwidth=680

milo shared his personal phone number and address in this thread. weird.

i gotta talk to my dentist, he needs to start hitting the gym

if he gets jacked he might be able to steal money from celebrities

never go to a dentist who accepts crypto

Words to live by

mostly have to wonder what milo's angle is here - obviously he's mad kanye fired him but what is he getting from bringing this up?

Eyeballs, attention, the usual. Without it he dies.

yeah, if true --- and it sounds that way --- he is breaking a major story. not much anyone can do about it though.

it seems like a tragically familiar story. predatory doctor exploits mentally ill celebrity by supplying them with drugs. it always ends the same way.

lol this is not a major story, come on

Taylor Swift cancelling concerts to avoid a terrorist threat is a major story. A washed-up ball of hatred getting his money taken by a predatory figure is a CBS prime time show.

he’s a dentist and he’ll never ever be any good
who wants their teeth done by the marquis de sade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pL8rxaJiF4

addressing ryan garcia already a major red flag

Kanye's former chief of staff alleges that his dentist supplies him with nitrous in a predatory manner, leading to an addiction that made him "no longer capable of successfully releasing music or clothing." pic.twitter.com/DYQcoHcpFv

— Kurrco (@Kurrco) August 7, 2024

seems like a nothing burger. ye does chargers. big whoop. since milo was around when it happened, this was after his mental collapse.

dude really did get into nitrous

Newly surfaced texts between Kanye, his dentist, and his former chief of staff Milo from April 2024

"This needs to be a long term goal : get recreational Nitrous legalized"

"Can I have the Nitrus today" pic.twitter.com/q9SdMSQMDc

— Kurrco (@Kurrco) August 13, 2024

Given how much I liked his first 4 albums, it’s wild to me how little I care about this

his dentist made an ai picture of a recreational nitrous rig lol

I can't imagine binging on nitrous like that. FFS. Talk about brain addled.

RIP Kanye's last remaining braincells.

Could be one of Shakey's more prescient thread titles if he carries on like this

College Dropout
Late Registration
Graduation
Dental School
Nitrous Coma

Considerably more dangerous than most recreational drugs fwiw - affects blood flow to the spinal cord and can kill nerve roots. Not something to fuck around with.

that video recording of the messages is something. "oh wait, my boss is saying he wants the 'nitrus' after I said it's bad for you. going to add the "haha" reaction to my previous message to show I was just goofing"

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that video recording of the messages is something. "oh wait, my boss is saying he wants the 'nitrus' after I said it's bad for you. going to add the "haha" reaction to my previous message to show I was just goofing"

looks like the haha is from Dr. Connelly?

ah, right

this is what I get for posting before my caffeine has kicked in but after I had the Nitrus

Lmao at the ATHF post

hahaha yes that is perfect

milo's really trying to use up his adjective quota for the week huh