Drinking In L.A. * Steal My Sunshine * In The Meantime * Get What You Give * Novocaine For The Soul

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These songs are a genre, right?
Honourable mentions: Teenage Dirtbag, 1979, Loser

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Len - Steal My Sunshine 39
Bran Van 3000 - Drinking In L.A. 23
New Radicals - You Get What You Give 21
Spacehog - In The Meantime 7
Eels - Novocaine For The Soul 6


My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:56 (seven years ago)

Went with “Drinking in LA” but love “Steal My Sunshine” and “You Get What You Give” almost as much.

michaellambert, Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:58 (seven years ago)

What a weird song Drinking In L.A. is for a hit.

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:00 (seven years ago)

I cant even remember the Spacehog song

Dark Mavis (Michael B), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:03 (seven years ago)

it's good!

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:04 (seven years ago)

but definitely the first two songs are the nucleus of this vibe. why no more late-90s sunny hip-pop one-hit wonders?

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:09 (seven years ago)

Sunny D music

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:10 (seven years ago)

OMC - How Bizarre probably also belongs here, even though it's shit

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:11 (seven years ago)

nothing more sunny and lighthearted than Eels's "Novocaine for the Soul" imo

i like the lighthearted bit that goes

You'd better give me something
So I don't die

Kroos on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:13 (seven years ago)

don't giv a shit about lyrics me

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:27 (seven years ago)

How Bizarre is definitely in there. Scooby Snacks?

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:27 (seven years ago)

How Bizarre is perfect because it's definitely 'European people pretending to be American'. Scooby Snacks is 'Americans who made it bigger in Europe'

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:29 (seven years ago)

I think OMC were from New Zealand?

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:30 (seven years ago)

OMC aren't yurpean fyi xp

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:31 (seven years ago)

why do I know this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMC_(band)

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:31 (seven years ago)

oh shit, no they weren't were they? I had that song on a comp called 'Eurodance 94' when I was a teenager and that's where I got that impression

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:31 (seven years ago)

Sort-of honourable mention but not really: Cake - The Distance

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:33 (seven years ago)

At the time I really liked the New Radicals song and the Len one. Bran Van 3000 and Spacehog are unfamiliar to me (perhaps I would recognise them if I heard them). The Eels one I was indifferent to at the time but it was playing as background music somewhere I went the other day and I thought it was much better than I remembered it.

dubmill, Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:44 (seven years ago)

I think 'Susan's House' is actually more in tune with this vibe than 'Novocaine', lyrical content notwithstanding ofc

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:44 (seven years ago)

No no no no no
'get what you give' is an absolute travesty, should be a Ronan Keating song

'meantime' is a stone cold classic, sound of the summer, idst, \m/ etc etc

also 'drinking in la' is ace

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:03 (seven years ago)

'get what you give' is an absolute travesty, should be a Ronan Keating song

! oh no kinder !

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:17 (seven years ago)

Turn On, Tune In, Cop Out by Freak Power

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:17 (seven years ago)

glad you like 'in the meantime' though :-)

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:17 (seven years ago)

Went with "Steal My Sunshine" as it's literally my #10 favourite song of the 1990s (last time I made such a list), Bran Van coming in at #41. Top tip: these two songs' parent albums are great too, if you like your albums to be genre-busting messy party fun.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:20 (seven years ago)

for some reason this thread has made me think of alabama 3 - ain't going to goa, and i'm not entirely happy about it tbh

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:23 (seven years ago)

this qualifies and is sadly not by the bleepy techno outfit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1dfEf1qOt4

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:24 (seven years ago)

it is also terrible, sorry everyone

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:25 (seven years ago)

Always got a slight Steely Dan vibe from the New Radicals song (which is why it's so excellent, obv) - the Dan still the gold standard for transplanted-to-LA-malcontent-pop

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:27 (seven years ago)

Just realised 'How Bizarre' and 'Brimful of Asha' are basically the same song - does it count?

Colleague and I have wasted a busy morning trying to nail this aesthetic. This is the longlist, which contains a lot of songs I really hate and I'm going to have to prune: https://open.spotify.com/user/1153731601/playlist/0YGB95CsfnRRPdNqbDECfO?si=gTl8DWNOTYCTY23pMvSRXA

Gonna try to nail this aesthetic as:

- period of roughly '94 - 2000 with some exceptions
- funky/hip-hop influenced pop/rock but not firmly entrenched in any particular camp
- usually a one or two-hit wonder
- more of ten than not contains some lo-pass filter radio chatter or speakover
- could be American, but sounds more like people copying US music and getting it a bit wrong (even if they do turn out to be American)

Given these parameters, I've boiled it down to this shorter playlist (which eschews some of the songs listed above): https://open.spotify.com/user/1153731601/playlist/3xGgyNUisgkVLUj6C0vZqI?si=FG6TLEWaQFaJhW9xsoe2TA

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:36 (seven years ago)

'nail this aesthetic'

(shoots self)

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:37 (seven years ago)

Voted 'Drinking In LA' It has to be in my Top 500, and still gets played a lot. Love the Len song also.

Would 'Groove Is In The Heart' fit the bill? Or maybe WEEN's 'Voodoo Lady' or 'Push Th Lil Daisies?'

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:28 (seven years ago)

I've never knowingly heard Ween but I've always assumed fuck 'em

Kroos on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:32 (seven years ago)

save tonight by eagle eye cherry is somewhere on this spectrum too

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:41 (seven years ago)

The Eels song that fits musically but obvs ironically is 'Beautiful Day'

The clown with the frown
Drivin' down to the sidewalk fair
Finger on the trigger
Let me tell you it is quite a scare

etc.

nashwan, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:41 (seven years ago)

something v post-Beck about this aesthetic

Dark Mavis (Michael B), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:55 (seven years ago)

you get what you give >>>>

not sure i understand the parameters of this aesthetic

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:09 (seven years ago)

Gonna try to nail this aesthetic as:

- period of roughly '94 - 2000 with some exceptions
- funky/hip-hop influenced pop/rock but not firmly entrenched in any particular camp
- usually a one or two-hit wonder
- more of ten than not contains some lo-pass filter radio chatter or speakover
- could be American, but sounds more like people copying US music and getting it a bit wrong (even if they do turn out to be American)

how does this account for the two power pop songs in the poll

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:10 (seven years ago)

we should honestly do a full 90s one-hit wonder poll

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:13 (seven years ago)

if we could ever finish arguing about who/what qualifies

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:13 (seven years ago)

For some reason the inclusion of "In The Meantime" made me think of Letters to Cleo's "Here & Now". So I went to youtube to watch the latter song, and what was the suggested next clip? "In The Meantime". So then I loaded that and what was the next suggested clip? "You Get What You Give".

Of course Spacehog also makes me think of Boss Hog's "Whiteout" which in turn makes me think of Ruby's "Tiny Meat". So basically I am bad at this game.

Tim F, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:26 (seven years ago)

God I hate these songs. 'Steal My Sunshine' is probably the only one I could stand to listen to without hitting something, so that one.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:28 (seven years ago)

if it was played regularly on radio 2 in the daytime then it doesn't belong here. see: New Radicals

(This may partially explain my hatred of it)

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:38 (seven years ago)

Cake, How Bizarre and Scooby Snacks def fit though

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:39 (seven years ago)

we should honestly do a full 90s one-hit wonder poll

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:42 (seven years ago)

Heaven is a Halfpipe belongs so clearly here I had to check it was a different song from Steal my Sunshine

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:44 (seven years ago)

how does this account for the two power pop songs in the poll

― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:10 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I backtracked a bit on a previous post about the initial selection, which was picked before I really thought about it. I definitely think these are part of a wider constellation but Drinking, Steal, Bizarre, Susan's House, Loser, Scooby Snacks all seem to be quintessential. Dunno, this is really a bit of nostalgic fun for the '98 4 lyf crew

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:47 (seven years ago)

kind of weird selection. doesn't seem like a genre unless "came out in the 90s" in a genre.

i dont place "In the Meantime" next to "Steal My Sunshine". the former felt like a 90s indie rock take on Bowie glam, the latter like classic bubblegum pop. i loved "Meantime" so much when that came out but nowadays probably prefer "Sunshine". that loop is so fun to listen to.

i never understood the critical pants wetting over New Radicals. that band/song is entirely forgettable.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:51 (seven years ago)

i have no idea where Spacehog are from. It seems to be the kind of song you either know and love or have never ever heard of

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)

Heaven Is A Halfpipe otm

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)

or opm, whatever

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:53 (seven years ago)

From Wiki:

Spacehog is an English rock band formed in 1994 in New York City.

so perfect

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:54 (seven years ago)

they're from LEEDS ffs

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:56 (seven years ago)

spagehog are originally from leeds.
and the opening of that track was used in a phone advert for years in the uk, hence the inbuilt animosity for many people.

xpost !

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:57 (seven years ago)

(one of my mates had moved from Leeds and I think this was partly responsible for us playing it for like the entire year)

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:59 (seven years ago)

what about White Town, 'Your Woman'? It's a bit English, and not the sunniest of songs but it has that phone-crackle '98 hip-poppy vibe going.

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:59 (seven years ago)

one of spacehog married Liv Tyler
#spacehogfacts

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)

that lfo one posted above for sure. am I imagining it oe did it stand for Lyte Funky Ones

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:02 (seven years ago)

that Bloodhound Gang one too. God that was awful

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:05 (seven years ago)

drinking in la is a great song

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:05 (seven years ago)

re space hog : lead singers brother then tried to cash in on the family z-list celeb status by forming kidsymphony.
got a 5 track promo ep, not sure the full album was ever released.

#spacehogfacts

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:07 (seven years ago)

weren't both brothers in Spacehog? or was there another one

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:10 (seven years ago)

I backtracked a bit on a previous post about the initial selection

that’ll teach me to read the whole thread

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:12 (seven years ago)

In 2010, Spacehog guitarist Antony Langdon gained notoriety for his role in the controversial mockumentary starring Joaquin Phoenix I'm Still Here. Langdon, who was one of Phoenix's assistants as well as a musical partner, staged a falling-out with the actor during the documentary's filming and is shown defecating on the troubled actor in retaliation for an earlier argument.

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:13 (seven years ago)

weren't both brothers in Spacehog? or was there another one

another one - Christian Langdon

and checked, other then the 5 track promo ep, the album was never released.

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:15 (seven years ago)

that’ll teach me to read the whole thread

― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:12 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's cool - we're all busy :-)
(evidently)

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)

None of these songs have anything in common. Anyway, “Steal My Sunshine” rules.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:20 (seven years ago)

Smash Mouth - All Star

i mean now I'm just listing the worst songs ever recorded

there's only so far you can go with this vibe before it evolves into nu-metal/ Blink 182 landfill

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)

that lfo one posted above for sure. am I imagining it oe did it stand for Lyte Funky Ones

― kinder, Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:02 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark

oh god I think you might be right

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)

here's another stinker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEDrU85FLE

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:23 (seven years ago)

something v post-Beck about this aesthetic

My two nostalgic favourite post-Beck-type minor alternative hits from this era: Naked Eye by Luscious Jackson and Hand in Your Head by Money Mark.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:38 (seven years ago)

Post-Beck is a pretty otm name. Commercial, vaguely ironic music that signals it's aware of hip hop.

Chris L, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:48 (seven years ago)

i probably meant Walking on the Sun by smash mouth, not All Star.

haven't heard that Money Mark track in years! Going down a nostalgia hole right now.

Marcy playground etc

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:06 (seven years ago)

These are all songs about being young and unsure of what to make of life.

The two first songs feel like pivotal moments in my teenage years. Have too many good memories attached to both and the nostalgia goggles wont let me hear them separate from those memories. Maybe they actually suck for someone hearing them for the first time, trying my best to hear them with fresh ears I can only gather all of the nominees are some weird one hit wonders even for the late 90’s.

I think I have to go with Len, I love the sample and the delivery.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:33 (seven years ago)

would like to refer everyone itt to this excellent blog http://pre-durst-blog.tumblr.com/

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)

Another post-beck hit I remember

butthole surfers - pepper

There should be separate thread for these, I feel like there’s plenty of examples out there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)

I h-a-t-e-d the Young Radicals song – and I worked at VH1 at the time, so it played on a TV over my head 4-5 times a day.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:38 (seven years ago)

My two nostalgic favourite post-Beck-type minor alternative hits from this era: Naked Eye by Luscious Jackson and Hand in Your Head by Money Mark.


hell yeah

in a similar vein in my mind at least, folk implosion’s ‘natural one’

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:38 (seven years ago)

<3 Money Mark. that song was on both his first and second albums but in different iterations

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)

None of these songs have anything in common. Anyway, “Steal My Sunshine” rules.

― i’m still stanning (morrisp)

Theme-wise they’re all about procrastination and depression.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:40 (seven years ago)

Sadly I can't find Money Mark on spotty

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:41 (seven years ago)

these songs are all a lot of fun, except Novocaine which I fucking despise, but "You Get What You Give" is the runaway winner here. Pure euphoria, would've been a hit in any decade, not sure if I could say that about the rest.

Also briefly considered Steal My Sunshine and In The Meantime, but the vocals and songwriting don't compare.

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:42 (seven years ago)

Happily Surprised at how many people here like Hand in Your Head, I never hear it mentioned anywhere.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:43 (seven years ago)

Apparently Royston Langdon is a bigwig at Spotify now

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:44 (seven years ago)

“You get what you give” feels like the best written song out of all of these and the only one you can modernize and rearrange without losing what makes it special but I still prefer “steal my sunshine”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:45 (seven years ago)

El Scorcho definitely fits in this weird category, doesn't it?

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)

Scorcho predates these. All of these are from 1998/1999 I think.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:55 (seven years ago)

also not much of a hit iirc

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:56 (seven years ago)

"Butterfly" is definitely a post-"Loser" track.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:56 (seven years ago)

how about "Butter of 69"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WweOg2krMPE

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)

I like the len song the best, im allergic to new radicals one, and i secretly liked spacehog one.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)

also not much of a hit iirc

― Simon H., Thursday, June 28, 2018 9:56 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess not. it has the most plays of any pinkerton track, whatever that's worth

supreme court justice samuel ance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)

in the meantime came out in 1995

supreme court justice samuel ance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)

Whale - Hobo Humping Slobo Babe isn't quite in this but I feel like it needs an honourable mention for being bonkers

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:02 (seven years ago)

wow I should not have checked to see what Weezer's current Top 10 tracks are on Spotify

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)

xp actually I'm listening to it now and despite the proto-nu-metalness, it's absolutely this

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)

That whole Whale album rules imo.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)

Theme-wise they’re all about procrastination and depression.

So were most other songs in the ‘90s, lol

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:09 (seven years ago)

how has nobody brought up this classic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:11 (seven years ago)

Not sure about this one cos it straddles Sunny-D and acid jazz/new jack, but it's definitely in that Michel Gondry hip hop vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwBjhBL9G6U

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)

speaking of which

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY5zaDZq0sc

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)

i hate all of these songs. drinking in la is the only one i hear with any regularity anymore (probably because it's CanCon)

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)

also i think it's the least objectionable of all of these so I'm voting for it. the spacehog song actually makes me want to kill

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)

Len is also Canadian

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)

oh yeah i guess i hear that a bit too. haven't heard the latter two in a decade

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:08 (seven years ago)

i hate all of these songs

you steal our sunshine

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:09 (seven years ago)

this thread is now just dog latin going "hey, remember the '90s?"

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)

(and being racist)

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)

I made a playlist a while ago that was very much stuff in the vibe of a few of these songs. Mostly stuff the came out in 96 or the surrounding years:
https://open.spotify.com/user/hairysquishmas/playlist/29OSMeThq1N86C0P7cBSxi

MarkoP, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:22 (seven years ago)

In the 90s I knew a girl in the 90s who liked to play the Sims; the stereo in her simworld rotated between the following songs: Get What You Give, Bittersweet Symphony, and Kids in America. Just those songs in rotation. 30 seconds of each. For hours.

can'tdelabra (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)

dog latin did you not include 1979 because you knew it would win

flappy bird, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)

this was easy though, 'Steal My Sunshine'

flappy bird, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)

I made a playlist a while ago that was very much stuff in the vibe of a few of these songs. Mostly stuff the came out in 96 or the surrounding years:
https://open.spotify.com/user/hairysquishmas/playlist/29OSMeThq1N86C0P7cBSxi

― MarkoP

Ah yes! These has other songs I was thinking about earlier like scooby snacks and geggy tah.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:33 (seven years ago)

Gah at my "In the 90s I knew a girl in the 90s."

also it was between the years 1989 and 2000, in case you were wondering

can'tdelabra (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:33 (seven years ago)

The Sims was released on February 4, 2000.

MarkoP, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)

owned

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9-28HgxfE

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)

I would have voted for 'Get What You Give' but 'Drinking In LA' has personal resonance for me so that.

Visibly Over 25 (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)

Post-Beck is a pretty otm name.

Odelayter

President Keyes, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)

I liked the Spacehog single enough that I bought the CD, then immediately sold it back after hearing the other songs.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:09 (seven years ago)

Might as well link to this thread:

50 Memorable Songs Of The Late 1990s That Apparently Only You Remember, Even Though They Were Totally On The Radio And Stuff

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)

And this one:

Show me a 90's hit that is somewhere in my head but I just don't know it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)

Another one which sort of classifies as summer post-beck hit:

Cornershop - brimful of asha

and I like this one better from the same album even better but it wasn’t a hit:

Cornershop - candyman

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)

And others that sort of fit according to me:

Lightning Seeds - you showed me
Moloko - fun for me
Babylon zoo - spaceman

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)

It would be interesting to make a list of *pre*-Beck hits (or "MTV hits," if they didn't chart) that were rap/rock/pop hybrids. For example --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Dw6q-5iaA&list=RDK4Dw6q-5iaA

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)

Just realized most if not all of these were on MTV’s Daria soundtrack at some point so if you want more of these, that’s a good place to search for.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)

No idea if it’s complete but here’s one in spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/user/otro_daniel/playlist/2PeNJybKOg0KnuDCrVBYuk?si=HZPWhRrbRS62YKips79L3g

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:34 (seven years ago)

spagehog are originally from leeds.
and the opening of that track was used in a phone advert for years in the uk, hence the inbuilt animosity for many people.

was it spacehog in the advert or the original penguin cafe orchestra track that they shamelessly ripped off?

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)

ha that's my fave part of the song and now that i'm aware of the source fuck spacehog.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWZ4pve5Mkc

Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)

well I never .. had no idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Meantime_(Spacehog_song)

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)

People were mad that it used a cool sample?

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)

gosh no … not at all, just had no idea re the source.
I unashamedly love the song as I do a lot of Spacehog.
even tracked down their albums that never got a full uk release.

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)

my point was that the advert/sample was all over the place for a very very long time.
became the sonic signature for a mobile operator in the uk.
hence the very possible annoyance factor that happens with over exposure.

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)

Ah, that's interesting...

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)

It would be interesting to make a list of *pre*-Beck hits (or "MTV hits," if they didn't chart) that were rap/rock/pop hybrids.

This fits in nicely from 92:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6r-k9Bk6o

and even this from 87:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwrYMWoqg5w

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:29 (seven years ago)

surprising myself i voted 'drinking in LA' over 'you get what you give' and 'steal my sunshine' maybe just bc the former was so underexposed for me.

the bottom two songs id never heard & i dont really get the connection

love omc 'how bizarre' though

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:36 (seven years ago)

this thread had a lot of discussion

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)

xpost

Thanks, Dan -- btw, the one I tried to post above (it didn't seem to work) was Urban Dance Squad's "Deeper Shade of Soul," from 1990.

"Tom's Diner" by Suzanne Vega (DNA remix) -- also 1990 -- may also qualify.

Trying to think of others... Beastie Boys' "Sabotage" seems too "hard" to really fit the mold (...plus, the Beasties are their own thing); Deee-Lite and Neneh Cherry maybe too club/dance-oriented...

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)

this thread had a lot of discussion

ilm folks are old.

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)

If I asked all of my friends, I would guess most of them are familiar with the 4 that aren't "Drinking In LA." It was not really played on the radio at all in my area.

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)

The bass line in "In The Meantime" is one of my favorite things in any song.

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)

yeah it's a great bassline

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)

"Drinking In LA" never actually charted in the States, though I guess it was in the Buzz Bin maybe?

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)

I knew it from 120 Minutes and it was def on the college stations in my area and my own mixtapes, but it feels like an outsider in this group. Def closer to "Brimful Of Asha" imo.

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)

When I said "it was not on the radio" I meant like Alt-rock stations.

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)

was big in uk, top 10 hit

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)

Bran Van was big on MTV and/or VH1, as with the Len, Eels, and New Radicals singles (don't know how those did at radio).

Spacehog was huge at radio. I still don't get how that one relates to these others, tho

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:08 (seven years ago)

(...for purposes of this thread -- it's from a few years earlier, and is pretty much a straight-up rawk song)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)

EMF/Jesus Jones etc. have to be part of lineage here

President Keyes, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)

Numb by U2 would be considered Pre-Beck, right?

MarkoP, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:16 (seven years ago)

the Len, Eels, and New Radicals singles (don't know how those did at radio).

Len: #9 Pop, #5 Mod. Rock
Eels: #39 Pop (!), #1 Mod. Rock
New Radicals: #36 Pop, #8 Mod. Rock

Surprised New Radicals wasn't bigger.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:16 (seven years ago)

xpost
Yeah -- good pull on "Numb"

I'm surprised Eels charted that high at Modern Rock!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)

It's really hard not to vote for Drinking in L.A. That track is really all time.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)

Huh thought new radicals was a top 10 at least. It got a lot of airplay on mtv.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)

New Radicals is one of those tracks that was perfect for MTV/VH1 at that time, but didn't quite fit the mold of either Pop or Modern Rock radio (at least in the U.S.)

I will also mention again that it fuckin' sucks!!!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)

got a lot of radio play too and found its way to one of the NOWs. it's a song that everyone knows even if they don't necessarily know its name.

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)

Beck reported that "I was in a grocery store and he (Alexander) came running up to me, so apologetic, and saying, 'I hope you weren't offended. It wasn't supposed to be personal.' I was kind of pleased, because he's a big guy."

Following the mass media's excitement about the celebrity insults, Alexander explained that the verse, along with the lines directly preceding it ("Health insurance rip off lying / FDA big bankers buying / Fake computer crashes dining / Cloning while they're multiplying") were an experiment to see if the media would focus on the real issues, or on the celebrity ridicule.

LOL

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:29 (seven years ago)

I will also mention again that it fuckin' sucks!!!

― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:22 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did you need to

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)

-_-

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)

imagine thinking new radicals suck lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)

otm

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)

yeah that whole album is pretty good

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)

I'm so bourgeois, not radical enuff!!

Apparently the guy co-wrote "The Game of Love" by Michelle Branch & Santana, which was a pretty good song.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)

Beck reported that "I was in a grocery store and he (Alexander) came running up to me

I wonder if it was the (former) Ralphs in Silver Lake, now a Whole Foods 365

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)

Apparently the guy co-wrote "The Game of Love" by Michelle Branch & Santana, which was a pretty good song.

didn't know that, but this totally checks out.

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)

you can even hear the 'new radicals' version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bJrHl4TeN0

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)

i still cant understand why this didn't make the album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq9jzRWoMGY

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)

xp
Actually both songs were written by the same two guys -- Gregg Alexander and songwriting partner Rick Nowels (...Nowels is huge -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Nowels)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)

All these songs got used on the soundtrack to late 90s football computer games.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)

new radicals fucking suck.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:58 (seven years ago)

ban

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:15 (seven years ago)

wow, i really like "a love like that," reminds me of "advice for the young at heart."

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)

I'm surprised Eels charted that high at Modern Rock!

Autumn '96 was a weird time maaaaaan...

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)

Len ftw

raise my chicken finger (Willl), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:38 (seven years ago)

"Drinking In L.A" is a song that benefits from not being heard on the radio constantly. My parents bought the album it came from (!) and I remember it being very diffuse and actually good in some places?

"Steal My Sunshine" would be a million times better if it was just a chorus and isntrumental verses.

"Get What You Give" is a great melody but the smugness of the lyrics and performance put me off, "Life Is A Rollercoaster" is probably a better song written by Alexander.

"In The Meantime" makes me think of the advert from the 90s that used only the good part of the song, and now discovering that the good part is a sample it feels a bit pointless. Good bassline but another terrible vocal.

I really liked that Eels album at the time but I dread to think how I would feel returning to it. Everything after "Electro-Shock Blues" has been disappointing and that's tainted my opinion.

I feel like in a parallel universe there would be room for the single mix of "Mmmbop" here and probably something from Garbage Version 2.0 album.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)

the scratchy voice verses on 'steal my sunshine' are essential to its appeal

'get what you give' is earnest not smug

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)

len ftw x2

daisies of the galaxy was good tho, boxed. kinda feel like E has been writing the same song forever tho

stoker (Ross), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:51 (seven years ago)

Fun Fact: For a few months when it was new I thought the guy on "Steal My Sunshine" was Perry Farrell (didn't see the vid until way later).

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)

kinder at 11:03 28 Jun 18

No no no no no
'get what you give' is an absolute travesty, should be a Ronan Keating song

"Get What You Give" is a great melody but the smugness of the lyrics and performance put me off, "Life Is A Rollercoaster" is probably a better song written by Alexander.
wait what

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)

now I have no idea if i already knew that or not

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)

One song that I feel kinda fits in this group, but is pretty much unknown outside of Canada is BTK's Peppyrock, though it did show up on some random soundtracks and compilations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2qEwePLQgI

MarkoP, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)

If this is a genre, it's one I'd lost interest in by the time of Len and New Radicals, but I was very much there for Spacehog and Eels. The Spacehog guy wearing a skirt on Letterman was very cool to me as a kid. Mr. Narrator, this is David Bowie to me, and whatnot. Also The Chinese Album was a big deal for me and I still find it a good listen, esp. the Michael Stipe feature:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asDJVXtb5ZA

geoffreyess, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)

That said, I have a friend "Alan" who seems to think Spacehog are the most soulless and opportunistic band of all time, he probably knows some stuff I don't know.

geoffreyess, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)

Come on now, where is 1000 Clowns? There's your post-Beck semi-ironic white boy hiphop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtoR-LXChIk

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:44 (seven years ago)

ha that's my fave part of the song and now that i'm aware of the source fuck spacehog.

― Hunt3r, Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:58 PM (four hours ago)

That's exactly how I felt about Len the first time I heard the instrumental break in "More, More, More".
Except in Len's case, the sample is basically the whole song.

At least Spacehog wrote that epic bassline... "In The Meantime" would have made a great Blur single. The rest of that album was terrible though.

enochroot, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:48 (seven years ago)

^Re: Len -- uh, that's what makes it brilliant. It's best deployment of a sample in a pop song I can think of.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:52 (seven years ago)

this earlyish Black Eyed Peas track definitely shares that same floaty, melty, telephone tone vibe as a lot of songs ITT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH8FctYMM80

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Friday, 29 June 2018 00:04 (seven years ago)

Len is the definite winner out of a strong group here.
Better Days (And the Bottom Drops Out) by Citizen King deserves a mention also.

methanietanner, Friday, 29 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)

Something else great about "Steal My Sunshine" is how the verse w/the female vox sort of taps into that '90s lo-fi indie-pop vein -- K Records, Dub Narcotic, Land of the Loops, etc., etc. ...all of which has gone unmentioned in all the above talk about "pop songs w/beats" -- for good reason, as these were not hits! -- though Beck recorded One Foot in the Grave w/Calvin Johnson prior to Mellow Gold (so it all ties back together)!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 00:22 (seven years ago)

Now I want a playlist titled Indulging in My Self-Defeat: Twee Vox & Breakbeats, 1994-1999

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 00:26 (seven years ago)

What the hell am I doing / Drinking an IPA in a kitchen in L.A. / At (almost) 42

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 01:59 (seven years ago)

Yeah i can't keep hating on 'in the meantime' i was trying to get my appreciation back to secret. fail. i still like it.

Hunt3r, Friday, 29 June 2018 03:02 (seven years ago)

Speaking of Bran Van:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm622tnjmjM

pomenitul, Friday, 29 June 2018 03:15 (seven years ago)

Except in Len's case, the sample is basically the whole song

Uh no it’s not... it’s the bridge

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 29 June 2018 06:06 (seven years ago)

Speaking of Bran Van:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm622tnjmjM

― pomenitul, viernes 29 de junio de 2018 4:15 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I do not understand, what does this has to do with Bran van?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 29 June 2018 06:35 (seven years ago)

Len ftw

stoker (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 09:04 (seven years ago)

As close to this as dEUS came

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP_kdA_NqeI

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Friday, 29 June 2018 09:10 (seven years ago)

I do not understand, what does this has to do with Bran van?
Jean Leloup was an an-off member of Bran Van 3000 (and can be heard on the Glee album). And the video posted above was directed by Jimmy De Salvio.

dorsalstop, Friday, 29 June 2018 10:55 (seven years ago)

Going through mid-year best of features, Caroline Rose's "Soul No. 5" is the spiritual descendant of this aesthetic, rock anthem + cautious embrace of hip hop. Though I don't think I'd have made the connection without seeing this thread 'cause I kinda repress memories of this era in 90s music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzIfmtKSLTE

At first I thought the difference was that Rose has a layer of sarcasm. But a lot of these songs felt like they had a layer of sarcasm at the time, but the sarcasm has burned off and it feels earnest in retrospect.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 29 June 2018 11:27 (seven years ago)

I do not understand, what does this has to do with Bran van?

James Di Salvio is featured in it.

pomenitul, Friday, 29 June 2018 11:37 (seven years ago)

Absolute Radio on in the office today - we've had Len and the New Radicals so far (NR sounding GREAT)

Ward Fowler, Friday, 29 June 2018 11:43 (seven years ago)

At first I thought the difference was that Rose has a layer of sarcasm. But a lot of these songs felt like they had a layer of sarcasm at the time, but the sarcasm has burned off and it feels earnest in retrospect.

― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, June 29, 2018 12:27 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I'm not getting a whole lot of sarcasm from these, more naivety, jejeune

Hotdogs Killcars (dog latin), Friday, 29 June 2018 12:14 (seven years ago)

Fan of the first two (Canadian), tired of the third, don't know the other two. If "How Bizarre" were listed, that'd get my vote; as is, "Steal My Sunshine." (I don't think I'd include "Loser" here, probably not "1979" either.)

clemenza, Friday, 29 June 2018 12:26 (seven years ago)

Except in Len's case, the sample is basically the whole song

Uh no it’s not... it’s the bridge


I think they meant the whole (Len) song is built on the sample.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 13:15 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nntd2fgMUYw

thinkfaceemoji

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:11 (seven years ago)

i really dislike that song as it edges things really closely to Toploader territory but there's no denying it's a Sunny D

Hotdogs Killcars (dog latin), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:41 (seven years ago)

I feel like a good example of a modern take on this sound would be Only Real, which also mixes it with a bit of King Krule and Mac Demarco:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q5nFR-EW7U

But it definitely has strong touches of Bran Van, Len and some New Radicals in there.

MarkoP, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)

i was singing the ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooeooh bit from in the meantime in the shower this morning

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 June 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)

i just youtubed drinking in la because i didn't remember it. i'm pretty sure i've never heard it before, and fuuuuuk, no way.

Hunt3r, Friday, 29 June 2018 17:41 (seven years ago)

I revisited it again this morning as well. I'm mainly indifferent, but the way it interpolates "Gin & Juice" pushes it into the No column -- that's some Dynamite Hack shit, avant la lettre.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)

It's almost more akin to something like "Lazy Sunday" (an SNL Digital Short™) than it is a pop song.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:08 (seven years ago)

I don't think I had ever seen the music video for it before. Want to try and identify all the records shown? 1:35 and 2:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQsQZvsR_QI

There's:

David Bowie - Heroes
Connie Francis - Sing Along with Connie Francis
Commodores - self titled
Toronto - Get It On Credit

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)

What are Gregg Alexander's other good songs? I tried getting into the New Radicals album recently and I thought it was kind of annoying but I know he's written a handful of songs that I like.

Rivers Cuomo covered one of them on a demo collection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYNA-SKrYiY

billstevejim, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)

Some other albums from the Bran Van clip

ELO: Discovery
Loverboy: S/T
Bruce Springsteen: Greetings From Asbury Park...

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 June 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)

also had never heard Drinking in LA, and I was a freshman in college at the time who wore raver/skater pants but listened to some hiphop so it should've def been on my radar.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 29 June 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

Here’s another Gregg Alexander classique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z6HP7fvbkI

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 29 June 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:01 (seven years ago)

I quite liked Drinking in LA because I first heard it when I was LA, drinking. It was my first time in the US and it was all very exciting. This was in 1999 so I think it had been out for ages by then. Tbh I have a reasonable tolerance for this kind of vibe even though I don't really *like* any of these songs I don't hate them either. Apart from that Eagle Eye Cherry one maybe.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:09 (seven years ago)

I haven't thought about that Spacehog song in 20 years, but it was all over the radio when it came out.

Only one of these songs spells out the word l-a-t-e-r though so...

how's life, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:14 (seven years ago)

Spacehog probably the archetypal British-band-bigger-in-US, even more than Bush, it's probably a cliche to even mention it tbh, although I actually do remember hearing that song in the UK at the time, so it wasn't a complete flop.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)

The bowie aping in it is groany but also sorta in the spirit of the day. “lol well heart in the right place for these times.”

Hunt3r, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)

that sample
that bass line
that ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooeooh part

this is Spacehog in a walk

alpine static, Saturday, 30 June 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)

len ftw

Y'all (Ross), Saturday, 30 June 2018 05:14 (seven years ago)

(and i LOVE EELS)

Y'all (Ross), Saturday, 30 June 2018 05:14 (seven years ago)

Think this fits in here somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eBZqmL8ehg

Real Compton City G, Saturday, 30 June 2018 07:08 (seven years ago)

p sure we already have 900 trip-hop landfill threads

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 30 June 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)

xp shiit yea that Hanson song is sick

billstevejim, Saturday, 30 June 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)

did anyone mention citizen king? that one always gets lost in the mix.

hackshaw, Saturday, 30 June 2018 19:03 (seven years ago)

having a bad week, sic?

Hotdogs Killcars (dog latin), Saturday, 30 June 2018 21:18 (seven years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 1 July 2018 00:01 (seven years ago)

Len ftw!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 1 July 2018 00:13 (seven years ago)

The new radicals album is all time for me
Still sounds dope

President Keyes, Sunday, 1 July 2018 01:28 (seven years ago)

there are a bunch of songs I've never heard before that totally fit that I enjoyed hearing for the first time too! thraed just moved on by the time I saw them

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 1 July 2018 02:09 (seven years ago)

Missed this poll, but would have argued that “Natural One” should have been included.

incel clown posse (naus), Sunday, 1 July 2018 02:39 (seven years ago)

Gonna try to nail this aesthetic as:

- period of roughly '94 - 2000 with some exceptions
- funky/hip-hop influenced pop/rock but not firmly entrenched in any particular camp
- usually a one or two-hit wonder


- Popular “Alternative” songs that when you play them at a 90s-themed clubnight in 2018, have enough of a pronounced beat that people can actually dance to them.

incel clown posse (naus), Sunday, 1 July 2018 02:47 (seven years ago)

“Natural One” should have been included.

agreed

Hunt3r, Sunday, 1 July 2018 03:23 (seven years ago)

I remember getting a haircut in college when “Natural One” came on the radio; the woman cutting my hair was scoffing at the song with another stylist – “Who writes this stuff?” I sat there thinking, Uh, it’s John Davis and Lou Barlow... I could talk for 10 minutes about these guys!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 1 July 2018 03:42 (seven years ago)

Len won. Justice is done. Y’all

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 08:35 (seven years ago)

The performance of the Eels song in this poll – and the fact that barely anyone even reminisced about on it in the thread – reinforces the mystery around the fact that it was an Alternative hit.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)

It was, but--like a lot of big tracks from that period--it didn't have legs past it's point of max. impact.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:38 (seven years ago)

Novocaine for the Soul didn't really cross over into the main Billboard charts. It peaked at 39 on the Airplay charts, which is just barely making it.

Drinking in L.A. didn't either, and in fact didn't even make it on the US Modern Rock charts, but that song had greater international success.

MarkoP, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)

I like the eels song. Also eels were big in the UK.
Alternate versions of the song are better. It’s no last stop this town

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)

The first three did get heavy airplay in Mexico don’t know about the US. Spacehog and Eels didn’t get any at all and I only knew about them by watching MTV’s 120 minutes (don’t know if you had that in the US but it was 2 hours of alt music including electronica and hip hop that didn’t get usual airplay from them)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)

I don’t remember watching the novocaine video though, I remember one with a singing carrot... “last stop this town”?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)

Yeah! You got it Moka

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)

Not many singles from electro shock. Last stop and cancer for the cure was in American beauty but the industrial noise intro pretty much guaranteed it was a non single.

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)

I was just in a shop where the Cardigans’ “Lovefool” staeted playing, and it seemed to fit the vibe of these selections in a certain way.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)

I could see that

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)

i actually listened to the one citizen king album they put out. it's like beck except not good. anyways one of the members went on to mix j dilla records and the lead dude became an electroclash guy (mount sims)

just want to drop this useless knowledge

hackshaw, Monday, 2 July 2018 00:02 (seven years ago)

this lesser-known Swedish pop-rap hit is definitely part of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf8MR-EnSho

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 2 July 2018 15:10 (seven years ago)

four years pass...

classic UK examples

Mint Royale - Don't Falter
Five - Keep on Movin'
Ronan Keating - Life Is a Rollercoaster
Terrorvision - Tequila

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:58 (three years ago)

the first of those is on many of my playlists, the others never will be.

ledge, Thursday, 19 January 2023 15:48 (three years ago)

"Life is a rollercoaster" does not belong

kinder, Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:45 (three years ago)

cept it does

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 19 January 2023 19:00 (three years ago)

explain

kinder, Thursday, 19 January 2023 20:44 (three years ago)

well why not? Strong summery feel + upbeat but bittersweet (the latter an angle ever-accelerated by nostalgia) + somewhat ethereal production (Gregg Alexander). Fits this sort of thing to a tee I'd say.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:18 (three years ago)

I getcha but needs at least a modicum of funky 'tude as well which Ronan doesn't have

the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Friday, 20 January 2023 10:15 (three years ago)

well, that's patently untrue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mok8NznlEEE

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Friday, 20 January 2023 10:28 (three years ago)

okay i take it back

the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Friday, 20 January 2023 10:56 (three years ago)


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