Bringing this thread idea back after we just used the 2017 rolling thread through all of 2018. It's intended to be a catch-all thread for the genres in the subject line. I assume people will use other threads for Latin trap, and rock en espanol, but who knows.
I like J. Balvin, recently enjoyed seeing retro mambo band Orquesta Akokan, and thought the Bobby Sanabria and his MultiVerse Big Band: West Side Story Reimagined was listenable if not exciting.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 January 2019 02:13 (five years ago) link
Here's the last thread : Rolling Afro-Latin Music 2017: Salsa, Bomba, Merengue,Reggaeton, Bachata, Latin Jazz, Bolero and more
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 January 2019 02:14 (five years ago) link
Me gusta, curmudgeon!My contributions will be likely be limited to reggaeton. Here’s my mission statement:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32F2d-wj4XwOzuna • Baila Baila Baila
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 January 2019 08:48 (five years ago) link
Yeah, that's a jam.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 11 January 2019 09:21 (five years ago) link
Agree. While Ozuna wins awards at the separate Latin Grammys, he and other Latinsx don’t rate at the “regular “ all genres Grammys https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latinos-landed-some-big-nominations-2019-grammys-don-t-reflect-n945441
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 January 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link
Listening to ILX Listen: 2019
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
Anitta is Brazilian obviously, but this is in Spanish and seems take its cues from J Balvin’s Vibras album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoYYtYjB3h4Anitta • Veneno
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link
Odds and Ends:
Camilla Cebello nicely opened the Grammys doing her song "Havana" with special guests including J Balvin and Arturo Sandoval and Ricky Martin
Was just in Mexico where one night we went to see Puerto Rican salsa romantica singer Victor Manuelle. Good show and there were some impressive dancing couples in the audience.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 February 2019 04:45 (five years ago) link
http://wayneandwax.com/?p=9262
Wayne Marshall re Dominican dembow:
As I wrote back in 2011,
If I were writing my mega-essay on reggaeton today, I’d want to make a lot more space for the Dominican Republic’s local take on the genre.
And that has only gotten truer in the 8 years since, as Dominican dembow has continued to grow, change, and gather steam, including outside of the DR. So I was thrilled that People en Español’s CHICA decided to devote so much space to the genre last month. Jennifer Mota has written the definitive piece on the genre, and while I did provide some quotes and Jenny generously cites my research, it’s a piece that I would recommend whether or not you’re a W&W fan.
Among other things, the article is careful to place Dominican dembow in the longer transnational story of reggaeton, from Jamaica to Panama, New York to Puerto Rico, while also showing how the genre has taken a distinct path from its Puerto Rican cousin. Indeed, while I had long understood dembow as a direct DR response to Playero’s and The Noise’s seminal (proto-reggaeton) mixtapes, Mota shows that Dominican producers such as DJ Boyo had been concocting their own mixed up, hyped up version of Jamaican dancehall since 1993!
https://peopleenespanol.com/chica/dembow-from-jamaica-to-el-alfa/
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 February 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link
The Grammys Buried Latin TrapIn spite of Camila Cabello's splashy "Havana" opener, at the Grammys it was as if the last year or so of Billboard Hot 100 hit-making by Latin American artists hadn’t happened.
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/59xdka/the-grammys-buried-latin-trap
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 February 2019 06:11 (five years ago) link
I gotta look into that speedy Dominican Debow x-post
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 February 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
Dembow
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 February 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
Somebody just told me the story about Ray Barretto joining Tito Puente’s band, as recounted here https://www.npr.org/sections/ablogsupreme/2013/04/20/178006676/tito-puente-90-years-of-getting-people-to-dance, since today was the anniversary of Ray’s passing.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 February 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link
Nice story.
So I saw pianist Alfredo Rodríguez & percussionist Pedrito Martinez duet at the Kennedy Center Saturday night. They have a new album 'Duologue' where they do standard Latin jazz plus some autotuned pop verses from pianist rodriguez & some Afro-Cuban chants from Martinez, and an instrumental cover of Michael Jackson's "Thriller"
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/24/687794667/first-listen-alfredo-rodr-guez-pedrito-martinez-duologue
― curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 05:42 (five years ago) link
I need to catch up on the following too:
https://www.billboard.com/charts/tropical-songs
1.Adicto byPrince Royce + Marc Anthony has been #1 on this chart for 4 weeks as of 2-16
2. CentavitoRomeo Santos
― curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link
Billboard Latin pop-https://www.billboard.com/charts/latin-pop-songs
1. MIABad Bunny Featuring Drake
2. ImposibleLuis Fonsi + Ozuna
― curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/charts/latin-rhythm-airplay
#1 is 'Mia" by Bad Bunny featuring Drake 2. Ella Quiere Beber by Anuel AA & Romeo Santos
― curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link
That Prince Royce track sounded like standard bachata on my one listen . Have heard other cuts from him I liked better
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link
Cuban timba band El Nino y la Verdad 6 to 7 pm est tonight for free at Kennedy Ctr Millennium Stage in DC and streaming on Facebook & K Ctr website I think
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link
Aww, K. Center schedule change. Maybe El Niño couldn’t get visas in time. NYC based Gerardo Contino y Los Habeneros will perform instead. They’re a decent dance band, but not quite as good
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
RIP Lewis Kahn, salsa trombonist & violinist with the Fania Allstars and Larry Harlow’s Band. Harlow is known as salsa’s “ marvelous Jew,” and Kahn was known to some as the second marvelous Jew.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 February 2019 03:47 (five years ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin/8499382/lewis-kahn-dies
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 February 2019 03:50 (five years ago) link
http://www.latinomusiccafe.com/2011/09/05/lewis-kahn-a-blue-collar-salsa-music-man/
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 February 2019 03:59 (five years ago) link
RIP. I see in that last link that he replaced Barry Rogers in La Perfecta when Barry went off to be part of a fusion band. I forgot about that chapter in salsa history.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 04:40 (five years ago) link
Love guys like this, as you may be aware, and love captions like this "A violin battle between Lewis Kahn and Alfredo De La Fe unfolds behind vocalist Emo Luciano during the Larry Harlow Latin Legends Band ." Also finding some moving tributes on social media from musicians that knew him.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 04:57 (five years ago) link
Sometimes I see the word "Voirabh" associated with his name. Can't even tell if that is a name, a nickname or a title.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 05:00 (five years ago) link
Oh it was a name given to him by Sri Chinmoy.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 05:03 (five years ago) link
Willie Colon, Eddie Palmieri and others have offered effusive praise
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 February 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link
Saw that. Also some younger players that aren’t such big names talked about hanging out with him.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
That violin battle can be seen here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoAH7nwU-DE
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
Interview with Lewis Kahn starts here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I8O5yGEQ10
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link
Listening to “Gracia Divina” in his honor.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 February 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
Looking for recommendations for synth-pad heavy, highly melodic reggaeton/neoperreo, in the same vein as these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjNutfto9fk&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz8ve5rlgmM&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvYbR0mr0mk&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6DWopZcGTM&
...basically, a bit like Europop but with a Reggaeton beat.
― daavid, Friday, 22 February 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
Maybe this article will give you some neo- p reggaeton ideas
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin/8473231/neoperreo-sub-genre-reggaeton-feature
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 23 February 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 February 2019 13:33 (five years ago) link
xp - thanks!
― daavid, Monday, 25 February 2019 23:58 (five years ago) link
X-post— saw tweets from musicians like Pete Nater and Doug Beavers whom I don’t know, re Lewis Kahn
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
Met Doug Beavers once at Club Bonafide. Think he might have been one of the first to hear about his co-instrumentalist passing.
― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link
Latin trap overview piece in Washington Post by Julyssa Lopez, who has written some good freelance articles for various sites
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/record-labels-said-latin-trap-was-going-nowhere-billions-of-youtube-views-proved-them-wrong/2019/02/28/9d614286-2ee7-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html?utm_term=.7cd86980ab70
“It doesn’t have to be all tight latex pants,” Fuego said. “There just has to be a variety. But we need to be involved, too — us, the street dudes or whatever you want to call us.”
As Latin trap has become part of the broader urban umbrella, some wonder if it’s moment has passed and point out that what’s being released goes beyond a “Latin trap” label. Others insist that trap is here to stay; it’s just moving in a new direction.
“The music has to change, otherwise it’s all going to sound the same,” Messiah said. “There was a moment where everything was trap. But the other day, I was listening to a whole bunch of records, and you got things that are dance hall or more R&B, and that’s what it has to be.”
It’s not only the music that’s changing. Anuel was released from prison last summer after serving more than two years, but his homecoming concert was canceled after an offensive diss track he’d aimed at the rapper Cosculluela leaked online. Anuel referred to the song, which uses homosexuality as a taunt, as “the biggest mistake of my career, worse than going to prison”...
― curmudgeon, Monday, 4 March 2019 13:16 (five years ago) link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/garysuarez/2019/03/05/despacito-daddy-yankee/
After 110 consecutive charting weeks, Luis Fonsi’s smash hit with Daddy Yankee and Justin Bieber has completely disappeared from Billboard’s multi-metric Hot Latin Songs ranking
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link
love this funky old almost bugaloo song by late Spanish singer Dolores Vargas La Terremoto called "A La Pelota" that I just heard on WFMU
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:32 (five years ago) link
thought revive would be about Bobby Sanabria's new radio gig.
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:37 (five years ago) link
"despacito" having been on the charts for literally over 2 years and still being top 3 the week before it was removed pretty succinctly illustrates why no one likes the hybrid genre chart methodology billboard switched to in 2012
― dyl, Sunday, 10 March 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
X-post- I never listened to the prior Latin Jazz show on that station that was there for 20 some years I read. Was it good? Will Sanabria be better?
Dyl— read that article & I didn’t understand how those radio placement rules work. Thanks for confirming what I thought
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link
I listened to the prior incarnation and it was fine although I didn't often feel compelled to listen. The new host may play a wider variety of music, although he sometimes has a certain kind of overbearing NYC personality.
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link
That annual NY Times magazine music Issue edited by Nabisco once again largely ignored most of the world . Just 1 Spanish language tune of the 25 highlighted songs “that matter right now”. From Rosalia of Spain.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 00:02 (five years ago) link
http://remezcla.com/features/music/rauw-alejandro-profile-urbano/
Puerto Rican “urbano “ vocalist ( his dad played guitar & sang) Rauw Alejandro
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 March 2019 12:49 (five years ago) link
Listening to Cuban group Cimafunk —Cuban afrofunk meets Prince
Also, not a Fan of Juanes, he’s ok, but really like track I heard on radio “La Plata” featuring Lalo Ebratt. More pop less bombastic
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
I missed Eddie Palmieri ‘s most recent multiple nights at little Blues Alley in DC. Didn’t see reviews or check Instagram to see if anyone snuck a video
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
Cimafunk are fun! Playing National Sawdust in NYC in April I think.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link
They’re in DC at Tropicalia tonight . The $25 in advance tix are gone and they want $40 at the door. Don’t know promoter. I think I am gonna skip it.
Other stuff I am listening to: salsa act Michael Stuart has a track on the Billboard hot tropical list . It has a syrupy pop chorus but a straight up banging rhythmic salsa feel under the verses
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 28 March 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link
So Madonna’s been apparently living in Lisbon, Portugal, and her new album has collaborations with Maluma from Colombia and with Anitta from Brazil
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:50 (five years ago) link
On the Madonna thread they’re grumbling that she’s mostly working with Mirwais again.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/wjv8p4/why-every-popular-rap-song-gets-a-latin-trap-remix
Writer Gary Suarez
― curmudgeon, Friday, 19 April 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
I had been waiting for Lalo Ebratt and producer Trapical to recreate some of that “Mocca” magic. This is very much it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2W6dG_B6zsLola Indigo ft. Lalo Ebratt • Maldición(Lola Indigo sure has some good singles!)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 26 April 2019 07:41 (five years ago) link
Case in point: “El Humo” is Rosalíaggaeton done right, i.e. it’s much better than “Con Altura”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dlg89bDVLQ
― breastcrawl, Friday, 26 April 2019 07:59 (five years ago) link
I like this one better, but that's because I'm a big fan of Mala Rodríguez:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-geL8Q3U18
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 April 2019 12:05 (five years ago) link
Yep, that one and “Ya No Quiero Nó” are good too.Had forgotten she’s actually from Spain - but soundwise she’s firmly on the Nuevo Mundo side of things.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 26 April 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link
http://www.hostos.cuny.edu/Home-Page-Content/News/Hostos-Center-for-the-Arts-Culture-Presents-Thre
May 2 to 4th Machito tribute with concerts and lectures at Hostos Community College in the Bronx
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/charts/latin-songs
Con CalmaDaddy Yankee Featuring SnowSong Lyrics1LAST WEEK 1PEAK POSITION 18WEEKS ON CHART GAINS IN PERFORMANCE2Bad Bunny Featuring Drake MIA Billboard Hot Latin Songs MIABad Bunny Featuring DrakeSong Lyrics2LAST WEEK 1PEAK POSITION 34WEEKS ON CHART3Lunay, Daddy Yankee & Bad Bunny Soltera Billboard Hot Latin Songs SolteraLunay, Daddy Yankee & Bad Bunny3LAST WEEK 3PEAK POSITION 12WEEKS ON CHART4 Pedro Capo X Farruko Calma Billboard Hot Latin Songs CalmaPedro Capo X Farruko4LAST WEEK 3PEAK POSITION 34WEEKS ON CHART GAINS IN PERFORMANCE5 Ozuna x Daddy Yankee x J Balvin x Farruko x Anuel AA Baila Baila Baila Billboard Hot Latin Songs Baila Baila BailaOzuna x Daddy Yankee x J Balvin x Farruko x Anuel AA6LAST WEEK 3PEAK POSITION 21WEEKS ON CHART AWARDS BIGGEST GAIN IN STREAMS GAINS IN PERFORMANCE6 DJ Snake Featuring Selena Gomez, Ozuna & Cardi B Taki Taki Billboard Hot Latin Songs Taki TakiDJ Snake Featuring Selena Gomez, Ozuna & Ca
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link
In non-chart music, old-school Puerto Rican salsa violinist Alfedo De La Fe (who might have been on Fania) is gonna be down in DC Saturday night at a tiny little club. He and a small band put on a great show when I last saw him (sometime between 2004 and 2008 )
Looks like the current administration is the cause that some Cuban musicians who were scheduled to come to DC have cancelled. The theatre just said due to issues involved with international travel, but you-know who is cracking down on US/Cuba relations again.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 7 June 2019 03:27 (five years ago) link
Where in DC?
― Heez, Friday, 7 June 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link
Oh sorry, Habana Village
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
I didn't make it. Also not seeing that anyone posted video clips on social media. Hopefully he'll be back
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link
xpsThis is also in that Latin Songs top ten:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA_kuFTV-P8Nicky Jam ft. Ozuna • Te Robaré
― breastcrawl, Monday, 10 June 2019 12:39 (five years ago) link
Writer Gary Suarez editorial--
Last week, two of music’s biggest names respectively achieved YouTube milestones. The music video for Drake’s 2018 hit single “God’s Plan” officially crossed the one billion plays threshold. So too did Daddy Yankee’s “Con Calma,” his latest hit making big moves on the Billboard charts. ...he accumulated these “Con Calma” views in a quarter of the time it took “God’s Plan” to do, or that he continues to hold the mantle of most played YouTube music video of all time thanks to “Despacito” (6.2 billion). Yankee outperforming Aubrey at the biggest streaming platform in the world alone ought to be newsworthy, to say nothing of the event itself bringing him closer to disrupting Ozuna’s similarly underreported rank as the artist with the most videos in the Billion Views Club – seven in total....
our urban Latin thing remains woefully underrepresented and frequently misrepresented by the American media. Language barriers, inherent historic biases, and a cognitive deficiency of understanding the phenomenon of Spanish-language music have put urbano on mute, at least in the circles and outlets that ought to know better by now. Lumped in with Latin music, a nebulous and laughably broad genre construct, the successes of Bad Bunny, J Balvin, Natti Natasha, and countless others either get ignored or treated as some sort of novelty, the outdated “Latin Explosion” narrative lingering from its pre-millennial milieu.
Among the myths and prejudices keeping reggaeton, trap en español, and urbano-adjacent pop down is the notion that our ongoing accomplishments of late are niche or regional, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. Such thinking chalks up triumphs like Yankee’s YouTube wins win last week to non-U.S. consumption, absurdly dismissing it as somehow not as valuable as a scenario where the plays were domestic. Putting aside this prejudicially loaded logic that trivializes hitmaking and stardom in Latin America, even a casual glance at the data shows that urbano has a significant domestic presence.
https://remezcla.com/features/music/urbano-breaking-streaming-records/
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 04:16 (five years ago) link
The above article goes into detail re Billboard calculations also. How streaming is calculated on different platforms
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link
I can't remember if I ever linked this articlewhich explains a lot about Lincoln Center's complicated relationship with Latin Jazz, which I found by searching Google (Books) with the terms "o'farrill" "barretto" "washburne" "not jazz"
― If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link
that's a good remenzcla feature. another striking feature of this urbano-driven wave of 'latin' music in the american mainstream is that most formats of radio will not bother whatsoever with these songs, no matter how active they are on streaming services domestically, unless they have some english-language section or are remixed to include such a section, preferably with an established anglophone star.
this remains the case even if the 'spanglish' version performs poorly on the streaming services, as with the remix to "con calma" with katy perry. that song was already doing great on the charts based largely on its streaming activity well before that remix dropped, and while the extra airplay from the remix has since taken it to new heights (tho it's cresting now), its streaming activity is still centered overwhelmingly on the original version without perry's contribution. (billboard decided to add perry's name to its charting credit even when her version's airplay at pop radio was so negligible that the song was undoubtedly receiving still receiving more play at spanish stations.)
perry has been struggling for what seems like years to regain her once-guaranteed foothold on the airwaves. that this big latin hit was sitting on the sidelines and being ignored by mainstream radio despite its proven appeal made it pretty much a no-brainer for her to jump on, even despite her complete lack of demonstrated interest in or connection to latin music or culture. and it looks like it'll pay off -- her recently-launched solo single is doing much better than anything she's tried for ages, and will almost certainly at least be a solid hit on adult pop stations. (and yeah, it helps that it's fairly good.)
not that any of this is surprising. but it's still quite obvious that in this era, mainstream radio has zero interest in latin music, even bona fide smashes, unless it's going to benefit one of their already-established anglophone stars, who are assumed to be the ones who'll be sticking around at their formats. latin music and its stars are then still treated as passing fads, and the possibility that they will only continue to grow in influence from here seems to have barely occurred to these segments of the media.
i sometimes have to remind myself that from the 50s through the 70s, it was not that bizarre for a hit song to come around every so often that was not in english at all! short of "gangnam style", this basically never happens anymore.
― dyl, Monday, 24 June 2019 04:54 (five years ago) link
anyway, personally i hope that the next latin song to go this distance will be better than "con calma", which i don't particularly like either in its original or katy perry-assisted versions
― dyl, Monday, 24 June 2019 04:56 (five years ago) link
Can anyone tell me about the Latin pop group Reik? Looks like they’ve maybe been around for a bit
― Heez, Monday, 24 June 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link
mainstream radio has zero interest in latin music, even bona fide smashes, unless it's going to benefit one of their already-established anglophone stars, who are assumed to be the ones who'll be sticking around at their formats. latin music and its stars are then still treated as passing fads, and the possibility that they will only continue to grow in influence from here seems to have barely occurred to these segments of the media.
Gary's point about streams not being counted equally is the big takeaway from that article. What I'd like to know, and which would go more toward your point, is how many listeners the big Spanish-language radio stations in the US have vs. their pop radio counterparts - like, how many people are listening to (in the NY market) Z100 and how many people are listening to La Mega? Because if these artists are getting billions of YouTube streams, and millions of Spotify and other streams, and significant radio airplay on Latin stations, what do they need recognition from the "mainstream" for anyway? There's no such thing as the "mainstream" anyhow. It's niche vs. niche, so when (for example) the producers of the Fast & Furious movies cast Don Omar and Tego Calderón as comic sidekicks, it wasn't outreach so much as recognizing that those two were already stars in an audience segment that was also watching F&F movies. So let white radio ignore Spanish-language music. The audience will find it - indeed, the audience already knows where to look for it.
Not everything is for everyone.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 24 June 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link
i mean, sure. but the thing is that white radio, and the segments of the industry that feed it, are not entirely ignoring latin hits -- some, like "mi gente" or most obviously "despacito", simply get too big to ignore, at which point they'll bite. but so far an established anglophone star, even one who is struggling in her supposed main genre, has to come along for the ride.
it's not 100% a bad thing! from an artistic standpoint, i actually admire the romeo santos approach to crossover -- bring in some 'mainstream' guests occasionally, but otherwise let that audience find you, come to you and accept what you're bringing as it already is -- compared to, like, prince royce's attempt to break top 40 airwaves with a lousy rehash of a 112 song from the turn of the century.
i would agree that today especially the landscape is very niche vs. niche. on some level it's always been like that, but with a lot of music sort of filling in the blurrier boundaries. today the boundaries are starker, and where overlap has strengthened it's tended to be along racial lines: rhythmic and urban stations on one side; top 40, adult and alternative stations on the other. where crossover opportunities exist, fewer seem to want to take them (cf that cumulus exec quoted in another thread saying that urban music not crossing over is seen as helping urban stations nowadays), and when they do go for it, it's hard to go the full distance.
the pendulum is swinging, i think, but many top 40 stations are still devoting significant blocks of their playlists to songs that don't sell, don't stream, and don't test well just because they 'sound' (and look) like 'pop'. (ironically, for reasons related to the nature of promotion and audience research, a lot of these songs end up taking up space for an unusually long time before the gatekeepers finally give up on them.)
like, if so many stations are struggling to stack their (lately, small!) playlists with actual new hits instead of just rotating the same holdovers from several months prior every rush hour, maybe they should try playing a little more latin music!
idk. maybe i'm naive or just have rose-colored glasses on, but sometimes i miss times when i could turn the radio on and the various niches played with each other just enough that i could at least believe in the illusion that we all live in the same world.
― dyl, Monday, 24 June 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I pretty much stopped listening to the radio when I was about 14, except for the metal station that I left on when I worked in a big empty warehouse, and occasionally a classical station in the car. It's not the way I choose to consume music at all, and I don't understand why people cling to it — it seems to me like the equivalent of still making phone calls on a land line, or something.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 24 June 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link
pretty fair/smart!
like, how many people are listening to (in the NY market) Z100 and how many people are listening to La Mega?
btw i was actually curious about this and decided to look some publicly available numbers up and do at least a very approximate back-of-napkin calculation. i couldn't find numbers for la mega in new york, so looking instead at los angeles, the audience of its big pop station (kiis) is probably between 2 and 3 times as large as that of its contemporary latin station kxol. the latin station's audience is probably similar to those of other stations in the area with alternative (kroq), rhythmic (kpwr), country (kkgo), and urban contemporary (krrl) formats.
of course los angeles is not representative of the whole country and interest in latin music is going to vary regionally. interestingly, nationwide one of the most listened-to formats is regional mexican, with an audience share of about 5% (compared to 10% for pop, 8.5% for country, and 8% for adult contemporary). but the styles played at that format (banda, etc.) read as old-fashioned and would never fly at mainstream top 40, in the same way that christian and country radio hits seldom do.
― dyl, Monday, 24 June 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
Separate worlds largely here in the DC area. Latinx music from any genre gets very little English language press/website coverage from those who cover English language music
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link
New J. Balvin w/ Bad Buny album didn't wow me on first listen. I like J. Balvin's pop side and that seemed less noticeable at first here
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 June 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
This one though:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcwEyLhwL54J Balvin x Bad Bunny ft. Mr Eazi • Como Un Bebé
― breastcrawl, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link
That sounds good. I need to listen to the whole album again too.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 02:36 (five years ago) link
https://remezcla.com/lists/music/puerto-rico-protest-music-essential-against-corruption/
Puerto Rican protest songs in various genres from Bad Bunny, Residente, ILe, Ricky Martin, La India, PJ Sin Suela
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:46 (five years ago) link
“All day, the drums and the chants had blared through the streets outside La Fortaleza, the governor’s residence in San Juan, the Puerto Rican capital.
But just before midnight on Wednesday, a silence fell over the crowd.”...
Some loud cursing, as he spoke at length about his accomplishments as governor.
Then, the sound of exultation pierced through the crowd: “RENUNCIÓ!”
A flurry of Puerto Rican flags flew into the air, strangers clasped arms and friends began jumping in circles, singing “¡Oé! ¡Oé! ¡Oé!” Cars from all over the city began to honk and, as people danced, fireworks erupted overhead....Throughout the night, the celebrations took on the feel of a music festival in parts of the old city, as some motorists blasted music from their car stereos. Some street corners resembled spontaneous dance parties as protesters celebrated the shift in Puerto Rico’s politics...But what would happen in the coming days remained unclear. Mr. Rosselló said his resignation would not take effect until Aug. 2, and many have already said his possible successor, Wanda Vázquez, is not a suitable replacement.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/us/san-juan-celebration.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/08/01/how-music-took-down-puerto-ricos-governor/
― curmudgeon, Friday, 2 August 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link
After Roselló’s resignation, people on social media said: “El Perreo ganó” (perreo won) and “Sin Perreo No Hay Revolución” (There’s no Revolution Without Perreo), pointing to reggaetón’s dance as the knockout blow to the corrupt governor.
Yes, some of these comments were tongue-in-cheek, playing on the irony of music that arose from black and low-income communities unseating the highest elected official in Puerto Rico. But they were also tapping into the longer history of reggaeton and perreo, forms that have always been political. Through reggaeton, Puerto Ricans have expressed political critique, resisted state censorship and criminalization, defied racism and misogyny — and now fueled collective action...
Prominent reggaeton and trap artists frequently joined demonstrators in the streets during the protests. Residente, iLe and Bad Bunny, in particular, alongside pop star Ricky Martin, played a vital role in amplifying the call of the Colectiva Feminista en Construcción for the National Strike on July 18, one of the largest demonstrations to take place in Puerto Rico’s history. In addition to the presence of artists at the protests, people also used reggaeton lyrics as chants. For instance, demonstrators frequently used a popular line from “En la Cama,” Daddy Yankee’s 2001 hit featuring Nicky Jam to call for Rosselló’s resignation. When a protester shouted “Yo quiero la combi completa” (I want the whole combination), which in the original makes reference to the various parts of a woman’s body, the crowd chanted in response “Qué? Ricky renuncia, puñeta!” (What? Ricky, resign, damnit!).
La Colectiva Feminista en Construcción, the feminist collective that initiated the protests in La Fortaleza, organize a yearly celebration “Si no puedo perrear, no es mi revolución” (If I can’t dance reggaeton, it’s not my revolution).
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 August 2019 01:28 (five years ago) link
Te Bote-- I dumped you, threw you out of my life --Te Boté Remix - Casper Nio García Darell Nicky Jam Bad Bunny Ozuna
This song got a new meaning with the protests against the now former governor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymBTbyQXE2c
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 August 2019 01:39 (five years ago) link
Billboard Hot Latin Tracks
Otro TragoSech Featuring Darell
Songwriter(s):C.I.Morales Williams, O.E.Castro Hernandez, J.Vasquez Valdes, J.J.MendezProducer(s):Dimelo FlowImprint/Promotion Label: Rich2 Anuel AA, Daddy Yankee, Karol G, Ozuna & J Balvin Songwriter(s):E.Gazmey Santiago, J.C.Ozuna Rosado, V.Saavedra, Karol G, R.L.ayala Rodriguez, J.A.Osorio Balvin, M.E.Masis FernandezProducer(s):TainyImprint/Promotion Label: Real Hasta La Muerte
3 Daddy Yankee & Katy Perry Featuring Snow Con Calma Con Calma
Songwriter(s):R.L.ayala Rodriguez, J.G.Rivera Vazquez, D.K.O'BrienProducer(s):Play-N-Skillz, Scott SummersImprint/Promotion Label: UMLE | El Cartel4 Bad Bunny & Tainy Callaita Callaita
Songwriter(s):B.A.Martinez Ocasio, F.G.Ortiz TorresProducer(s):Tainy, F.Saldana, TunesImprint/Promotion Label: Rimas5 Lunay, Daddy Yankee & Bad Bunny Soltera
Songwriter(s):J.Osorio Moreno, R.L.ayala Rodriguez, B.A.Martinez Ocasio, J.G.Rivera Vazquez, C.E.Ortiz Rivera, L.C.E.Ortiz Rivera, N.K.Segarra, J.Echevarria, N.K.AssadProducer(s):Chris Jeday, Gaby Music, N.K.Segarra, Dulce Como CandyImprint/Promotion Label: Star Island
6 Jhay Cortez, J Balvin & Bad Bunny No Me Conoce
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 August 2019 03:42 (five years ago) link
enjoying this second iLe album, almadura:
https://www.kexp.org/read/2019/6/27/calle-13-ile-hurricane-maria-solo-album-almadura/
it seems so lucid
― j., Friday, 23 August 2019 03:48 (five years ago) link
I need to listen to it more. Checked it out quickly at first
― curmudgeon, Friday, 23 August 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
Several Latinx music critics on twitter are grumbling that Otro TragoSech Featuring Darell
Is not getting the crossover media attention it and he deserves despite being number #1 for awhile , but European Rosalia can just say hello and get lotsa love and attention as an artiste
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link
Sech is Afro-Panamanian
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link
it's that pitchfork magic
still got it!!!!!
― j., Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:44 (five years ago) link
It’s a banger alright. I’m especially fond of the remix:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaCnp-yB-YcSech ft. Darell, Nicky Jam, Ozuna & Anuel AA • Otro Trago (Remix)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/arts/music/dembow-rhythm-drake-justin-bieber.html
Dembow rhythm history w/ a Spotify playlist
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 August 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link
X-post — Yeah that Otro Trago Remix is nice
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link
I also love this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a76lWh5yJCUCeasese ft. Polimá Westcoast & Young Cister • Te quiero ver
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link
There's an interesting digital-only compilation out from Craft Recordings:
V/A - Fania Goes Psychedelic
01. Ray Barretto – Acid (5:07)02. The Lebron Brothers Orchestra – Let’s Get Stoned (2:49)03. Johnny Colon & Orchestra – Boogaloo Blues (6:53)04. The Latin Blues Band – Take A Trip (4:53)05. George Guzman – Banana Freak Out (3:43)06. The Harvey Averne Band – Got To Have Brotherhood (2:57)07. Pete Rodriguez – Oh That’s Nice (4:50)08. Larry Harlow – Freak Off (3:30)09. Joey Pastrana – Problems (7:15)10. Eddie Palmieri – Revolt / La Libertad Lógico (5:25)11. Ray Barretto – Power (6:08)12. Bobby Valentín – Use It Before You Loose It (3:02)13. The Lebron Brothers Orchestra – Summertime Blues (4:44)14. Jimmy Sabater – Kool It Here Comes The Fuzz (3:14)15. Flash And The Dynamics – Electric Latin Soul (3:16)
Track 1 originally released on Acid, Fania Records LP SLP 346, 1968.Track 2 originally released on The Brooklyn Bums, Cotique LP C 1015, 1968.Track 3 originally released on Boogaloo Blues, Cotique LP C 1004, 1967.Track 4 originally released on Take A Trip Pussycat, Speed Records LP SS 101, 1968.Track 5 originally released on Introducing George Guzman, Fania Records LP 348, 1968.Track 6 originally released on Brotherhood, Fania Records LP 379, 1969.Track 7 originally released on Oh, That’s Nice! (Ay, que bueno!), Alegre Records LP LPA 860, 1967.Track 8 originally released as Orchestra Harlow on Harlow’s Harem, Fania Records LP SLP 408, 1972.Track 9 originally released on Hot Pastrana, Cotique LP C 1025, 1968.Track 10 originally released on Vamonos pa’l monte, Tico Records LP 1224, 1971.Track 11 originally released on Barretto Power, Fania Records LP 397, 1970.Track 12 originally released on Let’s Turn On / Arrebatarnos, Fania Records LP 343, 1968.Track 13 originally released on Psychedelic Goes Latin, Cotique LP C 1008, 1967.Track 14 originally released as “Kool It” on El hijo de Teresa / Teresa’s Son, Tico Records LP 1211, 1970.Track 15 originally released on The New York Sound, Tico Records LP 1233, 1971.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 8 September 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
That does look interesting
― curmudgeon, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link
There are some great cuts on that J Balvin & Bad Bunny album. Was re-listening to it.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:30 (five years ago) link
^^^ true words!
Más más más:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmeyoMooJPYTini ft. Lalo Ebratt • Fresa
Some things I like about this song:•it features Lalo Ebratt•it’s informed by Afropop (lesson 1: “One Dance”)•its subject matter is delicious•it features Lalo Ebratt
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 07:38 (five years ago) link
Saw J Balvin live last night. Fun show. A big production with a set that had a giant bleachers section with a cartoonlike character ( video game meets Hello Kitty meets anime) on it; videos airing behind the set (in a Nam June Paik way), reggaeton dancers in everyday clothes as well as some in cartoon meets videogame costumes; strobe lights and other flashy lighting... On some songs like “La Cancion” there was less going on— just Balvin’s voice, his drummer, guitarist, and keyboard player/ backup vocalist
― curmudgeon, Friday, 27 September 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link
Missed bad boy heartthrob Maluma in town recently. He’s not bad
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:05 (five years ago) link
(no) pun intended?The guys have a song together:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geyg_F5pfHEMaluma ft. J Balvin • Qué PenaQuite nice, but not really the showstopper it should have been
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link
Ha re pun. Yes not the showstopper it could have been
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
Pedro Capó w/ Farruko song Calma has become a favorite of Nats baseball players after a win
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/10/22/magic-calma-reggaeton-hit-that-became-washington-nationals-celebration-anthem/
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:03 (five years ago) link
I like Bad Bunny’s shoutouts to salsa and reggaeton acts in the sentimental “Desde el Corazon.” Good video too
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/desde-el-coraz%C3%B3n-heart.html
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 October 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link
That’s a 2018 song I think
https://youtu.be/7LZIrKG2EPE
― curmudgeon, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link
Saxophonist, composer, arranger, orchestra leader and educator Ray Santos became widely known in the 1990s for arranging the Oscar-nominated theme song for the movie The Mambo Kings. The Julliard-trained Nuyorican musician, who died on Thursday (Oct. 17) at age 90, was himself a mambo king.
Santos started out playing Latin big band music at resorts in upstate New York's Catskills, and performed with Machito’s orchestra at New York's city's Palladium in the 1950s. Over his long career he collaborated with Eddie Palmieri, Tito Puente, Tito Rodríguez, Paquito D’Rivera and many others.
He won a Grammy award with Linda Ronstadt for her 1992 album Frenesí. Recently, he had arranged Jon Secada’s 2017 album tribute to Beny Moré, To Beny Moré With Love -- Santos had previously worked with the great Cuban musician himself.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin/8533458/ray-santos-dead-latin-music-maestro-dies
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link
Chilean singer Mon Laferte staged a protest at last night's Latin Grammys. Photo is NSFW, so search it up for yourself, but she wrote the words "En Chile Torturan Violan Y Matan" on her chest and dropped her top on the red carpet. (She later won Best Alternative Album.)
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 15 November 2019 14:16 (five years ago) link
She’s got a new political song out too, I read. It’s with Puerto Rican Guaynaa.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 November 2019 05:28 (five years ago) link
Rosalia won Latin Grammys album of the year; Pedro Capo -"Calma" song of the year (the remix w/ Farruko also won an award); Bad Bunny got best Urban album; J Balvin & Rosalia best urban song for "Con Altura"; best salsa album was Tony Succar- Mas De Mi; Andres Cepeda got best traditional tropical album; Chucho Valdes -Jazz Bata 2 got best Latin Jazz
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin/8543699/latin-grammys-2019-winners-list
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 November 2019 05:48 (five years ago) link
Tensions Over Genres and Generations Linger at Latin GrammysThe Spanish pop avant-gardist Rosalía was a big winner at the ceremony, where reggaeton and Latin trap artists were snubbed in the major categories.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/arts/music/latin-grammys.html
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 November 2019 05:55 (five years ago) link
Bad Bunny did "Callaita" with an orchestra . Video link in Rolling Stone story
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/bad-bunny-performs-callaita-latin-grammys-913070/
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 November 2019 06:00 (five years ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/reggaeton-latin-grammys-progress-bad-bunny-j-balvin-912872/
J Balvin and some others did not go to the awards.
“There is a history that dates back many years where our genre has been denigrated,” Balvin explained. “I don’t agree with [the Academy] using us for ratings,” he added. “And then [us] not going home with what we deserve.”
Fellow superstar and frequent collaborator Bad Bunny echoed Balvin’s words in the press room following Thursday’s Grammys ceremony. “There are people who [must] accept that reggaeton is a genre that has been going for more than two decades,” Bad Bunny said pointedly. “Whether you like it or not … we are [the ones] representing Latinos worldwide.”...
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 November 2019 06:05 (five years ago) link
Folks mad on twitter that Sech’s “Otro Trago” didn’t win a song award and lost to European Spaniard Rosalía
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link
I listened to that Sech song today. It's bad. Well, it's generic pop-reggaeton that makes it seem like nothing's happened in the genre in a half-dozen years or more (autotune, in-da-club video, placeholder lyrics about love and heartbreak, etc., etc.). I'm not surprised that it's very popular, but do people actually think it's better than Rosalía's work (and when I say that I'm including both her songs and her videos as a whole package)? I mean, I don't even like Rosalía's post-album singles that much but even those songs are much better than anything I've heard from Sech. The dude is a dime a dozen to my ear, and the fact that he's currently popular says nothing about the quality of his work. Or am I wrong?
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link
i don't get "otro trago" myself but given that apparently this is not the first time ppl have questioned its lack of exposure or plaudits in some corners compared to what's readily afforded to, e.g., rosalía -- when, as you mention, there are scores of other aesthetically similar tunes that could be at the center of similar complaints -- tells me that there's more to it than i'm attuned to
i wouldn't say most of rosalía's recent singles are better than it tho. on some level i feel like some of the adulation she's being heaped with in recent months is from ppl who felt like they were a bit late to get on the hypetrain and are consequently responding more to her overall catalog and strength of musicianship than specifically to her recent work, much of which is uninspiring
― dyl, Sunday, 17 November 2019 00:07 (five years ago) link
The “Otro Trago” Remix is better than the original , but yeah it may not be the best choice to use to make the point re reggaeton and Latin Grammys choices
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 November 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link
Rolling Stone writer Esposito and headline re announcement of main Grammys--
Latin Music Is Being Quarantined at the 2020 GrammysRosalía is the only Spanish-language artist to break into a general category — the rest are castaways
Things seemed to look up in 2019 when “I Like It,” the Latin trap crossover hit by Cardi B, J Balvin and Bad Bunny, received the nomination for Record of the Year. But in spite of its skyrocketing revenue and growing ubiquity in anglophone pop culture — with support from bicultural Latina superstars like Cardi, Camila Cabello and Selena Gomez — Latin music will be excluded from the most prestigious Grammys categories, which include Record of the Year, Song of the Year and Album of the Year.
In 2020, Catalan avant-pop star Rosalía will be the only Spanish-language recording artist to break into the general category that is Best New Artist. Though the Academy has previously honored artists who’ve performed in Spanish, such as Puerto Rican rocker José Feliciano and Ecuadorian-American diva Christina Aguilera, the Best New Artist award has historically gone to those who primarily record in English. A win for Rosalía in this category would be an unprecedented win for Spain, as well as the Latin music industry, which has embraced her over the last two years.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 November 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/latin-music-2020-grammys-rosalia-bad-bunny-j-balvin-914642/
https://remezcla.com/lists/music/nuevo-noise-12-songs/
So much music to keep up with
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
yes
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
Not really seeing Latinx acts on many year end lists. Not many Spain acts either, ha ( she has made a few).
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link
So someone opened a new jazz club in Baltimore recently and they're busy bringing acts to town-- NYC Latin jazz pianist Eddie Palmieri is there tonight/Thursday through Sunday; and he's gonna be back there in 2 weeks for 4 nights as well.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 6 December 2019 05:21 (five years ago) link
Caramanica in NY Times lists Bad Bunny and Romeo Santos on his year end list. Jon Pareles has ILe on his.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 6 December 2019 13:51 (five years ago) link
https://remezcla.com/lists/music/50-best-songs-by-latinos-in-2019/
A little of everything but mainly reggaeton
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
Ozuna’s new album is called Nibiru. I wasn’t feeling the string of singles that preceded it all that much and have been enjoying him more on his features this year, but the album is sounding really good.
Loving the skippy beat in “Fantasía” (there’s not enough of it actually): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwzpYh7dio
Fun track with Diddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKnxO7wAeUOzuna ft. Diddy & DJ Snake • Eres Top (working title “I Need A Top, Part 2”)
(pretty sure this is one of those Illuminati videos I keep hearing about)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:36 (five years ago) link
Will give new Ozuna a listen. Also need to look at :
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/11/778227075/a-survey-of-the-year-in-latin-music-whatever-that-means
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link
More top notch reggaeton:Lalo Ebratt’s Numerología EP is lots of fun, in a Afro-Latino post-“One Dance” kind of way.“Milkshake”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na8MZZU8haY
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 14 December 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
that's quite nice
― dyl, Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link
Since we can never read enough discussion of Rosalia versus Latinx artists, here’s J Shepherd from the Slate music crit roundtable :
This is not to say that “authenticity” is the goal or even all that desirable as a flat concept, but when Rosalía is better known by mainstream English publications than Anitta or Natti Natasha or Amara La Negra or Karol G or even Becky G, the system has either gone wonky or is doing exactly what it was meant to.
https://slate.com/culture/2019/12/best-music-2019-fka-twigs-solange-holly-herndon.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
I might grant more weight to her statement if Googling her name paired with any of those artists' names yielded results. You can't complain that no one's writing about these artists if you're not writing about them either.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
(She's an editor at Jezebel. If she wanted to get something out there, she could. The last time she wrote about Amara La Negra was in 2015.)
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
As editor, maybe she assigned someone else to write about them.
I wrote up a Karol G preview in 2017 for the Washington DC City Paper, and did Bad Bunny, J Balvin, & Maluma this year. There’s not too much English language coverage of Latinx music in DC area
― curmudgeon, Friday, 27 December 2019 00:19 (four years ago) link
https://remezcla.com/lists/music/10-best-latino-latin-american-spanish-albums-of-year-2019/
Less "urbano" than I expected, but still strongly represented. 1.'This Is How You Smile' by Helado Negro;2. 'Oasis' by Bad Bunny & J Balvin; 3. 'Ahomale' by Combo Chimbita; 4.'Almadura' by iLe;5.'Sueños' by Sech; 6.'Foam' by Divino Niño; 7. 'Soy Piedra' by Belafonte Sensacional;8.'Sombrou Dúvida' by Boogarins; 9.'System' by Debit ; 10-Joterías Bobas’ by Hidrogenesse
Not really seeing many Latin jazz albums on lists. The genre seemed formulaic years ago, but still hangs on. Pancho Sanchez did a Coltrane tribute I see. The NPR jazz critics poll usually has a separate Latin jazz category, but the 2019 poll is not posted yet.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link
Time to go to the 2020 thread:
Rolling Afro-Latin Music 2020: Reggaeton, Salsa, Bomba, Latin Jazz, Bachata, Merengue, Urbano and more Latinx
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link