♫ Best Songs Under 2 Minutes poll - VOTING and CAMPAIGNING (voting closes March 31st) ♫

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TL;DR
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Link to Submit Your Ballot
link to full list of nominations
spotify playlist of nominations
Deadline: March 31st, 2019, 11:59:59.999999 PM
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after collecting a handful of nominations, at long last, it’s time to vote!

the final list of nominees.

Each ballot can have up to 50 songs. The final rollout will include 119 songs, if all goes well. There are 4 ballot options (Ranked, Unranked, Mixed, and the Clemenza Option). There are also 3 sub-polls: Top 5 songs under 30 seconds, Favorite <2 minutes artist, and Top 5 songs that aren’t on the nominations list. More details below. Please use this thread to campaign for your faves, including the ones that aren’t on the massive spotify playlist for the nominations.

How to submit your ballot:

1) submit your ballot via this Google Form: https://goo.gl/forms/GaYQfyOscmQ0nPSB2

2) you’ll be asked to submit your ballot using one of four options: Ranked, Unranked, Mixed, and the Clemenza Option (details about these options below, and also on the Google form in Step 1 above)

3) **PLEASE** form your baby ballot by copying and pasting from this full list of nominations: https://pastebin.com/PuG4RdvE

do not type the rank/number for each song. just copy and paste the entire line for the song you want (including the length), like this:

Jimmy Toledo - Holy Smokes! (1:52)
Jenny Creekbed - Unholy Water (0:32)
Jerry Bassface and the Tenortones - Choogaloo River (1:32)

if you’re doing a ranked ballot, put your fave song on top, you’re least fave on the bottom.

If you don’t want to do 50 songs, that’s ok! just submit as many as you want to, up to a limit of 50.

4) there are also three optional sub-polls: Top 5 songs under 30 seconds, Favorite <2 minutes artist, and Top 5 songs that aren’t on the nominations list because of a technical formality or because i fucked up or because it wasn’t nominated because this world is going to HELL, etc

5) Do all this by midnight, March 31st!

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other things
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RANKED BALLOT: what it sounds like. your top 50, ranked from top to bottom. top song will get 500 points, bottom will get 83. All 50 will add up to 10,000 points. refer to this post for the points for each rank.

UNRANKED BALLOT. your fave 50 songs. each will get 200 points. if you submit fewer than 50 songs, they’ll still each get 200 points.

MIXED BALLOT: the top 20 songs will be ranked (500 points for the #1, scaling down to 197 points for #20). songs #21-30 will get 162 points each, #31-40 will get 129 points each, and #41-50 will get 98 points each.

THE CLEMENZA OPTION: songs #1-10 receive 300 points. #11-25: 217 points each. #26-49: 150 points each. #50: 145 points.

Each 50-song ballot will add up to 10,000 points. but when i do the final rollout (which should be 119 songs), i will apply a complex mathematical procedure known as “multiplying by a tiny number” that will create a pleasingly tiny number point totals.

the question of which songs are shorter than 2 minutes is a complicated one. depending on the format you listen to, or the online resource you trust (CD, LP, streaming, all music, discogs, etc), you can and will get very different answers to how long a particular song is. after a while, i just decided to go with spotify (US version) as the arbitrator of song lengths. i realize that this is a flawed system - many songs are just a bit over 2:00 on Spotify but if you listen, they actually fade out several seconds beforehand - but i did not want to do several dozen battles regarding song lengths for particular songs. for songs that weren’t on Spotify, Discogs was used as the secondary arbitrator. even then, there were weird issues, mistakes on my end, and i probably accidentally pissed off a bunch of people. if there is a sub-2 minute song that you adore and it’s not on the list, please vote for in the appropriate sub-poll. i am sorry. i really did my best. please try to have fun and not get overly concerned about an online poll.

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vote early, but don’t vote often! just once will do.

i think that’s it! if there are questions please let me know, but please note that it is now officially too late to change the nominations list. please use this thread to hype your faves.

Might want to rethink the thread title

i thought i had thought of everything

sad lol

I'll get it, hang on.

i meant march 31st

i'm absolutely SURE there won't be any other small mistakes like that! i'll ask a mod

mod of the year!

There we go.

First of all, thank you for this amazing effort so far KM!

Now let's hear it for our musical heroes. I'm especially keen to promote the interests of a couple of things not on Spotify...

The Sea Nymphs - On The Dry Land is just about the most beautiful little vignette I can think of, and neatly summarises the entire Cardiacs aesthetic in 1:46 of yearning paradise

Of course, you might also delight in some choice Dadaism courtesy of the good folks at Blanche Blanche Blanche

And if I must promote something a) on Spotify and b) not nominated by me, then truly it is amusing yet emotional if one imagines what ducks go through

Please consider voting for this pleasing song by Bobby Please and the Pleasers (despite its monstrous title, "The Monster").

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNAO3ZAfHM

As this doesn’t appear to be on Spotify:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDdSWjpPJDg

Above and beyond, KM.

Some lesser-known stuff that will be high on my ballot:

folk-hippie weirdness
sprightly sort-of punk
jangly mods
jangly brooklyn

Tried, without success, to get Odin's "Lost" and Chris Twinning's "Netherlands" uploaded onto YouTube. They will remain unheard.

not to be too parochial about this but it's usually the done thing on campaigning threads to put youtube links into url tags rather than just pasting them straight

second that "jangly mods" link by clemenza ("For Another Man" by the Motions). that was one of the early new-to-me finds of this process. it's basically a beatles help or rubber soul era song

clemenza's first link is unsurprisingly my favourite, also dig knight school

imago what year is the blanche blanche blanche song from? i guess modern because it's about TED talks but it's pleasingly hard to pin down, sonically

Aavikko, 'Rosinante'. My ideal of a perfect <2 minute instrumental. It's near the top of the noms list!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4FkIMnG2I

2013, amazingly enough! xp

The video, not the music, for that Blanche Blanche Blanche song reminds me a bit of this classic Duvet Brothers scratch vid - also reminds me I forgot to nominate "Fuh Fuh" by Voice of Authority for the poll grrr

wow @ there being 2019 nominations

oh shit, that reminds me! i meant to total up the cumulative length of the nominations:

2019 nominations = 52 hours, 29 minutes
the spotify playlist covers 42 hours, 32 minutes of that

O_O

As they aren't on Spotify I'll have to campaign for The Yummy Fur, one of my 3 favourite bands of all time and for some reason their entire catalogue is currently unavailable to buy or stream, except on youtube.

Here is my first choice, a b-side from 96 called The Career Saver

https://youtu.be/tElQEnCefOo

I was going to list a few more, but they aren't even on youtube, so will upload tonight and make a playlist.

Three of my noms aren't on Spotify, so I figure I'll campaign for those here via YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYeDY6YkzIg

X, "Suck Suck" (1.55)

(note that this is the *other* late 70s punk band named X; this lot are from Australia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ahdjCoL5Yw

Pulsars, "Owed to a Devil" (1.59)

(the YouTube version is 2:05; I'm going off what I have copied off of my CD copy, which I take to be the "official" time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol86MTKGqUA

Kenickie, "Private Bukowski" (1.42)

This is about as primitive as it gets--I was able to upload two songs not anywhere else on the internet onto my Tripod homepage.

Lost (Odin, 1968)
Netherlands (Chris Twinning, 1990)

Odin is 1966, not '68.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZy4yChJkU

not a lost favorite in need of campaigning, but this '81 Entry footage of the Replacements is so good and gives one nominated song (Customer) and one I wanted to nominate (Rattlesnake) in one go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9aQ9u8Zy2k

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-68QsYHauN1M/T-hrpmw2egI/AAAAAAAAAKo/IC-u41WbtG4/s1600/deliawithpen3.jpg

Delia's busy making her list. Vote early, vote ZIWZIH ZIWZIH OOH OOH OOH.

I have to campaign for Lizzy Mercier Descloux's inspired no wave turn as Rosa Yemen. The whole EP is the best 9-minute career imaginable.

Also, I fear Rudimentary Peni will be left lurking in the shadows of all the other punk in this poll, but for anyone even remotely interested in scorching manic punk, I urge you to check out any of their three nominated songs.

Can't see Vashti Bunyan's Diamond Day on the pastebin list> It was nominated by Ogmor.

oof, i missed it. very sorry! it would be a very good contender for the "Top 5 songs that aren’t on the nominations list because of a technical formality or because i fucked up or because it wasn’t nominated because this world is going to HELL" sub-poll

Wait, no, that can't not count! It was nominated AND discussed on the thread!

I AM GOING TO GO TAKE A WALK

I just checked and it was nominated three separate times, possibly while cutting the duplicates you cut all of the noms, but that means there are at least four of us who were definitely gonna vote for it.

THEN FUCKING VOTE FOR IT

Cool, I will. Just making sure it wasn't thrown out on a technicality.

why i'm frustrated:

1) i have put in an enormous amount of my free time, in a very stressful time of my life (new job that fucking BLOWS), doing this. i know that others offered to help and that all of the responsibility for spending a bunch of time of it is on me.
2) i posted the nominations list several times in the old thread. other people helped me comb through it. i knew there would be omissions and mistakes anyway, and lord help me i knew there would be complaints. i thought that posting the nominations list ahead of time, several times, would help
3) i didn't want to change the nominations list / fix mistakes after starting this thread, because
3a) someone will then complain that they didn't know a song was added and it wasn't fair
3b) it will keep happening. 6 hours later, someone will realize that the greatest song of all time, which they clearly nominated, wasn't added. i will submit the pastebin file, then ask a mod to change all the references to the pastebin file in the opening post of this thread, then edit the google form to replace all the references to the pastebin file. then the next day someone will realize that another one of the greatest songs of all time that was clearly nominated isn't on there, and i will do it again. someone will offer to do it for me but i'd have to give them my google password, so nope.
3c) after doing all of that, someone will complain about some other shit
4) i pre-emptively apologized for all of this in my opening post and tried to come up with a backup plan to appease people: "there were weird issues, mistakes on my end, and i probably accidentally pissed off a bunch of people. if there is a sub-2 minute song that you adore and it’s not on the list, please vote for in the appropriate sub-poll. i am sorry. i really did my best. please try to have fun and not get overly concerned about an online poll."
5) i recognize the irony in me constantly asking everyone not to freak out about an online poll of short songs, while myself freaking out about an online poll of short songs. i am like the shaking with rage guy yelling "chill the fuck out!" at a room of frightened people. sorry

6) but if i DON'T add 'diamond day' to the official list of nominations, i can look forward to multiple people complaining about the low placement of the song in the results, because of course not everyone is going to wade through this thread and notice that it was added later. same goes for all of my other mistakes

conclusion: there a reason nobody likes to do this shit

sorry dan, sorry emil.y. you did nothing wrong, and if it wasn't you, it was inevitably going to be someone else catching a mistake. i hate my new job.

Hey Karl, don't beat yourself up about it. With 2000+ nominations it's inevitable that things will go awol in the copying and pasting. FWIW I think you're doing a great job and am really looking forward to the results in a few weeks time.

Yes, thank you Karl, great work and please don't sweating. Was just shoveling for the umpeenth time in the last month and this playlist makes great listening. Going to be very hard to narrow to 50 songs.

*sweat it

Karl, have you put in more hours than the length of the playlist? The QC process alone must have taken tons of time.

another minor quibble, but the steely dan song is called "Through With Buzz," not fuzz--not complaining karl, but posting a PSA for the CTRL+Fers who are looking to vote for the song.

From all accounts, Donald Fagen was--quick, someone point me to the "Jokes You Don't Want to Go Anywhere Near" thread.

this is such a cool poll, good work, Karl

Here's my campaign to avoid Naked City vote splitting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkrfVZGmLL8

What's the timezone for the deadline?

BTW the Little Richard song is the purest fire.

I'm still going through the Spotify playlist (in the closing stages) - apart from the wondrous Duck, which I'm sure you're all voting for, I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!

I discovered I hate a lot of They Might Be Giants and The 1975

after taking a walk i realized two things:

- i want to apologize, again, especially to emil.y. i tend to get frustrated with myself when i make mistakes, and this is a situation where mistakes are inevitable. and i took it out on you. sorry, emil.y. not cool.

- i do want to avoid the dilemma and hassle of making a bunch more changes to the nominations list over the next few weeks because i want everyone to be voting on the same things. so how about this: i will make ONE more big update to the nominations list (adding in the vashti song, correcting the more minor mistakes that flopsy and others have pointed out (thank you for all of your help), etc. then i'll make a new pastebin list (i can't edit the original one because i don't have a paid account) and edit the google form with the updated link. i'll also ask a kind mod to please update the links in the OP on this thread as well.

it would be wonderful if people could help out by just checking their own nominations and making sure that there isn't any missing that obviously should be there. i really don't want to start a new wave of disputes about songs near 2 minutes. but if i made a vashti-sized fuckup, please let me know during the next 6 hours.

Karl, have you put in more hours than the length of the playlist? The QC process alone must have taken tons of time.

― that's not my post

it's...probably about 3/4 of the playlist time? would have been longer without the help of others in correcting things, that's for sure. there will be a lot of QC on the received ballots, too, unfortunately. i tried to make it clear that i wanted people to copy and paste each line in their ballot from the pastebin list, with no numbers/ranks, but the very first ballot i received was ranked with numbers, lower case, used definite articles inconsistently, sometimes "artist - track" and sometimes "track - artist", etc. so yeah, it's going to be a lot of fixing things like that.

i implore everyone to please, please just copy and paste from the list. when you don't do it, you literally are saying "hey you. you do the work instead."

What's the timezone for the deadline?

― Gaseous Clay (Leee)

honestly, just whatever your own timezone is. it's not like i'm going to be immediately working on the ballots at 12:01 am on April 1st, because that would be foolish, but i definitely don't want to wake up on april 1st with a bunch more ballots coming in, either

I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!

^^^

Karl, should we let you know here or privately?

here is ok.

I couldn't find:

Regrettes - Juicebox Baby (1.51)

on the pastebin list under R or T (in case I entered it as The Regrettes), though I'm sure I included it in my first wave of nominations.

Thanks Karl again for amazing efforts with this.

Here is my promised playlist of otherwise non-steamable nominated songs by The Yummy Fur - 7 songs, about 8 minutes total

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1fmqf9vwPImj7O4D7FRmaUz98CsqCTXF

This song I nominated is on Spotify but due to their typo in the artist's name (two g's in Cambridge) it did not get pulled into the playlist. I also accidentally nominated it as "He's a Mover" (the wrong title on Spotify) instead of "He's About a Mover." ANYWAY, it's an amazingly fast, stomping version of the Sir Douglas Quintet original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6ejvbPE8_g

Karl: checked my nominations and only found two minor things, both of which can stand as is. One typo: the Accents song is "Ching a Long" (listed as "China a Long"). And two White Stripes songs are listed as "The White Stripes," another as just "White Stripes."

Something that just occurred to me: I'm really happy I nominated the Mendoza Line. (If you don't know baseball, the Mendoza Line, named after a famously poor hitter from the '70s, is .200.)

Won’t the best songs under 30 seconds subpoll overlap somewhat?

Nominations Change Log:

additions:

Vashti Bunyan - Diamond Day (1:47)
The Regrettes - Juicebox Baby (1.51) (wasn’t actually in the nominations thread, at least not that i could see, but since this is the *knock on wood* FINAL edit to the list, went ahead and added it. Spotify and Youtube both include the “The” in front.

Typo/definite article corrections:

Steely Dan - “Through With Buzz"
Accents - "Ching a Long"
Took “the” off of two White Stripes songs

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any other things that need correcting? as i mentioned above, this will be the final final edit to the nominations list. speak now or forever hold your peace. and in the event that you don't hold your peace, i will try not to be a total asshole this time in responding.

in about 30 minutes i will submit the new list as a pastebin file, post it here, edit all of places in the google form that refer to it, and ask a mod to edit the OP of this thread with the correct links to the updated nominations list.

ok, here's the updated nominations list:

https://pastebin.com/6d7NQGFc

KM: I should have checked the original thread to be sure that I did indeed nominate "Juicebox Baby" (and then just let it go if I didn't). In any case, thanks for that, and for all of the work you are putting into this poll.

no problem!

Won’t the best songs under 30 seconds subpoll overlap somewhat?

yeah, probably. but it seemed right to give the shortest songs their moment in the sun, especially since a lot of people thought 1:30+ songs were too long for this poll.

Camper Van Beethoven's cover of "Wasted" made the noms but not the Black Flag original >:(

lol this Earlimart song is a remix of a Blur instrumental

Loved the Family Fodder track just before it though!

I made a playlist of a certain subset of all the nominations, not stanning for any of them just a bit of fun, best effect if you skip each song after 1-2 seconds:

https://open.spotify.com/user/ledge/playlist/1uMkeSUpwlJHLzx1QkpyN9?si=LJOVMgCxQQOs0273IMaVkA

aka the Gerogerigegege playlist lol

Karl you must have missed the last batch of corrections I made in the nominations thread. One song is on there twice and I mentioned 'the' White Stripes and other splits with 'the'.

xp to imago,
I didn't know that about Earlimart (a band I don't really care much about despite nominating that song). Maybe you are mistaken?
Family Fodder is one of my all time favorite bands.

I am not mistaken. But it's a nice remix

hmm. now I'm thinking I was mistaken and it's just the same (unusual) instrument

ok, I approve of the Earlimart then :D

Not well known (the song, not the band).

What's the Use (Pretty Things, 1970)

Possibly a belated answer-song to "She's Leaving Home."

There definitely are some big similarities there imago. The thing that most intrigues me about the Earlimart song is when it hangs on the minor piano notes (from about 1:06 - 1:22) instead of finishing the sequence.

And since KM took the trouble to fix up the spelling, some great doo-wop from 1959 (of admittedly dubious sensitivity):

Ching a Long (Accents, 1959)

Contrary to the credits on the clip, it is "Ching a Long," not "Ching a Ling" (a point raised in the comments section). Seems to be listed as "Ching a Ling" all over the internet, but:

http://images.45cat.com/the-accents-i-give-my-heart-to-you-1959.jpg

I've just realised that I've forgotten to nominate something. Are we accepting write-ins?

u kidding m8

it's this haha a neural network wrote a christmas song

lol. it's good but not quite as good to further toy with KM's sanity imo

ok fine, i won't mention it again. but it's going on my ballot :D

https://i.gifer.com/origin/df/df2194fd5e3df54b35dff3b540daefc7_w200.gif IMPORTANT CAMPAIGNER NEWS. Please take this song into consideration while voting. Thankig U. https://i.gifer.com/origin/df/df2194fd5e3df54b35dff3b540daefc7_w200.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg8mJP7y6Wg

o god haha

I can proudly declare it's right there on the noms list too!

For those that like their songs *really* short, here's a playlist I made of songs that are all 7 seconds or less

https://open.spotify.com/user/1000timesyes/playlist/3n34eIuHsO4ZARoSYymkwL?si=hZ1Gn9dsS02tj5Jkmw3pCw

59 songs in 5 min, 13 seconds

Also, let me know if there's any good ones (0:07 or less) on Spotify that I'm missing!

lol, my immediate thought was "death metal and tmbg" and i was not disappointed

grindcore 👏 is 👏 not 👏 death 👏 metal 👏

i was looking forward to that response too tbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU75AiKynag

I was looking forward to exchanges like that in this thread <3

Thanks for your work on this Karl, still going through the playlist but looking forward to putting a ballot together.

Would like to put a word in for one of my non-Spotify playlist nominations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFUoPRjhEG8

Idk if you're allowed to campaign for your own nominations or if it's in bad taste but then again I am a vulgar, vulgar man, a real nouveau riche ilx type shithead, so I am gonna do it anyway and beg for your forgiveness later, MAYBE.

Brian Eno - The Microsoft Sound (0:06) - Just wanted to remind you all this is available to put on your ballot. IT'S REAL GOOD, Y'ALL!
Danny Elfman - The Simpsons Main Theme (1:39) - This too. It's fine? I don't even know if I'll vote for it, but it is iconic.
AFI - Hearts Frozen Solid, Thawed Once More by the Spring of Rage, Despair, and Hopelessness (0:32) - A real test of Poe's law here (or whatever the... not internet? equivalent? of poe's law? is?), I can't tell if this is just the most "angry pop punk" song ever or a send-up of the genre. Either way, 30 seconds of Davey Havoc screaming I WILL DIE SCREAMING is a joy, and this is probably the only AFI song I have ever liked. Plus, there has to be at least one representative from Fat Wreck's "short music for short people," an album of 100 thirty-second songs, right?
Project X - Straight Edge Revenge (1:20) - Yes, yes, you should vote for the Minor Threat song, blah blah blah, YAWN, but, like, this is the best update to the "short song about not doing drugs hardcore" microgenre ever. I'M AS STRAIGHT! AS THE LINE! THAT YOU SNORT UP YOUR NOSE! hahaha. Come on. vote for it
Mitski - Old Friend (1:53) - maybe my fave short song by my fave artist of the decade so you know i'll stan for it. with 50 spots i'm still worried i'll vote for her 5 times? but if someone said "one vote per artist" it's this. (or maybe my body's made of crushed little stars. shit. tough pick)

And some I didn't nominate, because, that's the CLASSY MOVE

Guayaba - Bye Bich --- daaaaaaaaamn one of the (very) few songs that I hit while shuffling the spotify and went WAIT WHAT? WHAT IS THIS. it is very good
Farrah Abraham - The Sunshine State --- NOBODY TOLD ME SHE IS A SECRET GENIUS? help this is amazing
Boards of Canada - .......all of it? ugh how am I supposed to pick from these?

If it helps you decide, I am going to be giving My Body's Made Of Crushed Little Stars a LOT of points

and yeah the Farrah Abraham thing is glorious haha

i'm planning on voting for crushed little stars too

KILL MEEE IN JERUUUSALEM

one per artist is only like a code of honour thing tho, right? bc like... yeah i'm not gonna LIE and pretend i don't love both of those songs

imo two is fine and three is a bit much but probably tolerable

My ballot has five Minutemen songs right now

Also, we should have let whoever nominate the whole Circle Jerks album because "World Up My Ass" is not on the list

yeah there's no limit, but i'm gonna limit myself to one artist per song so i can spread the wealth a bit and go a little bit less insane when choosing and ordering my ballot

vote for the songs you like best imo

There's 3 different versions of the theme to 'Stingray', will they be collated seperately or together? i.e. does it matter which version I vote for?

I’m not familiar with the theme (and at work so I can’t listen), but if they sound pretty similar I will collate is there are votes for separate versions

if

Not sure if I'll vote for it, but definitely under consideration.

Vote for 'UFO' instead, Dan :)

Jesus, that was exhausting.
There was definitely something liberating about comparing the relative merits of C86 songs, hardcore, first-wave rock 'n roll classics, and incidental filler.
Anyway, ballot submitted.

Attention Trump conspiracy hysterics: I voted twice.

(Don't worry, KM--the second ballot catches one of the subcategories I missed on the first one. The rest is blank.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoFhiKaq9UQ

Campaigning for Canadian cuddlecore champions Cub...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBAWgU_JMz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3L6SPM6xYs

How ironic that a song called Martin Scorcese is brief

Every song: “What song is this?”
“Guided by Voices again”
“Put it on the list”.

I guess I didn’t realise they were actually quite good.

From my noms I obviously want to campaign for all of them but I’ll settle for 3 that I’d specially recommend:

Tenorio Jr - Nebulosa

This is from the early 60’s but actually sounds like it is some instrumental hip hop song by nujabes or someone of that ilk. Which is to say it sounds decades ahead of its time. Short piece but every musician in it is so good and the song has such an energetic pace it feels like it’s much longer.

Buddy Holly - Slippin n Slidin (fast version)

This stripped down version is not only my favorite version of the song, it might be my favorite Buddy Holly song. I love his voice in this unadorned state. The whole apartment tapes are really good and better than the overdubs they made with them imho.

Storey Sisters - Bad Motorcycle

Because it’s awesome and deserves a top 20 spot in this poll.

Don't know if I'll be able to submit a ballot, but wanted to drop in to say that this playlist is the best thing ever

I don't know who nommed Primal Scream - Velocity Girl, but to me, this song really sets a template here:
Beautiful pop song starts off with a perfect verse and a perfect chorus, and just as you're settling in to hear them repeated 2 or 3 more times and really luxuriate in the ascending melody and the chiming guitar, the song just ends.
It has a more palpable sense of leaving me wanting more than any other song I can think of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8KynrRA1u8

Disregarding the artists that are split between _x_ and _the_x_, it is still pretty strange that Karl didn't update the two bands named incorrectly or remove the last duplicate song, imo.

Some people move fast. They get things done. Some people move slow (e.g. patience makes perfection or a compulsive perfectionist). They don't always get things done but are great at obliterating tiny annoyances.

Also some people vote fast

I think you should cut Karl a bit of slack there, there's a lot of nominations (and I am somewhat to blame for that!) and running a poll this size is a lot of work as it is

yes

Good morning!

Oh wait

lol

Rare footage of Flopsy Duck and Karl Malone in a parking lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxzX7BNJYSQ

lol

Anyone up for a nominations listening session on plug.dj/ILXORS?

If you like winsome, I have some winsome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6HF8N8_s4w

If you like your beautiful 60s tunes filtered from the vantage point of the 2000s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POK6yyHNIpU

If you like your Neil Young with winsome female vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vls0xGjorbQ

If you like your 60s straight up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRrys5XlRp0

I nominated this full band version of "Birds" from Neil Young's Archives box but it's not on the list. Maybe it got confused with the longer version from After the Gold Rush?
Neil Young - Birds (45 RPM Single) (1:38)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKN7JxBvuLM

'Time Between' is definitely going to be high up on my ballot (xpost).

May I recommend to all potential Aphex and Boards of Canada voters this piece of austere beauty from Autechre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcWCkp_fDeg

Tenorio Jr - Nebulosa

This is from the early 60’s but actually sounds like it is some instrumental hip hop song by nujabes or someone of that ilk. Which is to say it sounds decades ahead of its time. Short piece but every musician in it is so good and the song has such an energetic pace it feels like it’s much longer.

Second this one. It's short but amazingly feels fully fleshed out with distinct sections.

The Pastels, Tenniscoats - Yomigaeru

I'm sure that most people have listened to this since it's near the beginning of the playlist, but it is so insanely charming.

file me under 'lots of points for Time Between' as well

Also, I bring you your near-daily reminder to vote for Duck

blasting this on repeat in the shower until pruney

xp i listened to that whole album based on the chatter about it. was not expecting a band sounding like an unpolished junior high school ensemble to hit me the way it did.

Glad that Maher Shalal Hash Baz are getting a lot of love here, will definitely be voting for 'Duck'.

I nominated a couple of Jun Togawa related things I'd like to rep for.

Jun Togawa - ある晴れた日: just over 30 seconds, a beautiful Japanese folk song.
Guernica - Bremen: avant-garde take on Brecht/Weill.

Damn I want to vote only one song per artist but Elvis towers above everything else so hard I can't choose only one for him.

every once in a while i'll hear a song on this list, wonder "hey is this (insert band here)", look and it isn't, and get mad at myself for not nominating (insert band here)

most recent one was hearing terror and getting mad i didn't nom american nightmare

feel like hip-hop's gonna need some help placing, so here are a few tracks that i'm strongly considering voting for

ghostface killah - beauty jackson - succinct and detailed ghostface story, and who else could've made any sense out of this beat? voting for this would let you to check the j dilla box too.
j dilla - one for ghost - speaking of whom. i think i've decided this is my favorite of the dilla traxx that we nominated, but i could be convinced if there's another one that people are rallying around.
danny brown - xxx - "Dark nights tryna sleep stomach on fire/Delusional from hunger so I couldn't get tired"; one of the bleakest songs ever put to tape
raekwon - pyrex vision - the chef x marley marl--the first five seasons of breaking bad or the first two hours of goodfellas packed into 55 seconds
digable planets - highing fly - single-handedly justifies the existence of the steve miller band
ultramagnetic mcs - traveling at the speed of thought (remix) - kool keith and ced-gee spin some body horror atop louie louie's riff and honky tonk women's drums.

the killer mike track nominated for this slays

after much j dilla track-pick hemming and hawing i went with waves personally

I have to put in a word for this melancholic accordion instrumental by Les Négresses Vertes. Whenever it is finished I have to relisten to it. I never get tired of it. Probably my number one.

xps to voodoo

'one for ghost' or 'time' for me re dilla. im def voting for that ultramagnetic track i think its my fav rap pick in the list. xxx too.

i nominated some rap but i dont have hope for any of it :( i'll try anyway!

we deserve at least one trunk rattler in the countdown and north memphis does that.

bankroll fresh 'live yo life' is hella inspirational. RIP

prince paul is a mad man with that 2 cups of blood beat

throw on comptons most wanted - hit the floor or ice cube - what they hittin foe if you want to get your blood cooking before you confront your annoying co-worker or whatever

tree beats should always be celebrated tree - 50s

oh yeah 2 cups of blood is so good

“Travelling at the Speed of Thought” is my discovery of the poll (so far). I’m excited to spend more time with the rest of the album when I’m not listening to epic playlists of sub-two minute songs.

Listening all day to this playlist I’ve come to these empirical and hasty conclusions;

- the best “songs” or at least most of the popular songs in here are usually r&b and rock n roll singles from the 50’s and early 60’s. I assume it’s fueled by time constraints on the recording process.

- If segmented into countries, Brazillians and Japanese are often really good at condensing meaningful music into less than two minutes.

- Every punk song that takes longer than 2 minutes to say a message is doing it wrong.

- some of the noms are just forgettable interludes inside good albums.

^yes, there's a fair bit of "we nominated this short track by [well known act] because we could rather than because we should"

OTOH there are plenty of Bands You've Forgotten Existed that I'm enjoying rediscovering.

btw I have 15,531 songs under 2 minutes in my mp3 folders, of which I have rated 1,614 as good, so limiting my nominations to 100 was no mean feat

I missed the nominating, but for potential interest, I just generated a playlist of the most popular 1:00-1:59 songs on Spotify at the moment, filtered to one per artist:

https://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/4OVcZjfY22BezeO2FyK9mK

Small funny postscript on that. When you make a Spotify playlist, Spotify suggests potentially similar songs in case that helps you add stuff. In the case of this playlist, 9 of the 10 suggestions are <1:00 tracks. The one and only longer song is: "Short and Funky" by Too $hort.

hahaha thats amazing

conversely, my spotify shortlist's recommendations start with an 18-minute song by a band who doesn't appear on my shortlist (but does appear on the longlist, hmmmm)

Another instrumental. The whole cosmos in less than 60 seconds. A miraculous melody full of yearning and positive vibrations. Slightly macabre but if I had one minute to live and could choose the soundtrack, it would be The High Llamas - Cuckoo Casino

Does anyone know what this is?

Stereolab - The Eclipse (0:59)

Still can't quite over 'Ready Or Not Here I Come' being this short.

please consider voting for these amazing tracks:

Young Marble Giants - Final Day - perfection

Sun City Girls - Cooking With Satan - just listen to this thing

Bikini Kill - New Radio - fury personified

Swell Maps - Read About Seymour - post punk falling down the stairs

The last person I'd ever deign to correct, but "Read About Seymour" is 1977--that's a bit early for post-punk.

XP: This is the Stereolab track, from a 1995 split single.

wow just when I think I've heard every stray 'Lab track from their 90's output something like that turns up, I actually tried to look it up on Discogs earlier and failed.

fwiw I don't think the version of Frownland by Captain Beefheart on the Spotify playlist is the version intended (it's an instrumental from a bootleg, kinda surprised Spotify allows bootlegs tbh) - in the event that anyone listening to it might like it but doesn't know it already - the proper version isn't on Spotify but is on youtube: https://youtu.be/r9lpLm7jwQY

damn, who nominated tanzmusik, this song is sick

ok i voted! last 50 or so cuts were brutal.

also in the "un nominated top 5" i included 4 songs i was too stupid to nominate, and one i didn't nominate because i cannot find proof of its existence on the internet anymore, but i KNOW IT EXISTED. and i know it was under two minutes. so the track length is listed as (???). don't worry, nobody else will nominate it unless there's some early 2000's ottawa punx on here. (sund4r?)

8 ballots in so far! which is pretty good, i think, given the amount of time it takes to put one together for this poll. 2 weeks left!

I voted btw

don't forget to consider the sub-polls (best ever <2 minutes artist, top 5 songs not on the noms list, and top 5 songs under 30 seconds)

i saw it, thanks!

also, i will note that someone besides clemenza used the Clemenza Ballot option :)

which makes it one of the fastest growing ballot options on ilx

As of this morning's listening, I currently have a 40-track ballot with 40 distinct artists.* I still have about 1/4 of the Spotify playlist to (hopefully) get through, but I find it encouraging that I won't have much room to repeat artists. There are about 5 artists where making calls on one or even two songs is gonna be a challenge, though.

Speaking of clemenza, btw, I recommend checking out that Odin track he linked (here it is again, to save you some scrolling). Hearing it amidst a bunch of GbV tracks was kinda surreal: it really does sound like something that coulda come off of Alien Lanes some 20 years later.

*Technically, anyway. John Darnielle and Scott Miller appear twice under different band monikers.

Sent in my vote. Looking through the nominees, I was disappointed that there were only a few Young Marble Giants songs nominated. But it was quickly explained when I looked at the album - a ton of their songs barely miss the cutoff!

one potentially poll-winning song just missed the cutoff as well (neil young's Needle and the Damage Done - 2:03)

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Clemenza Option is adopted by a few states in the 2020 election.

Since she had success in the year poll, please note this intense short song
Rosalía - Que se muere que se muere

When starting the nominations, I thought this was a favorite to top the vote. Turned out I had to nominate it myself.
Jay Dee - Stop

You might now know this haunting ominous French song (if you like Christine Ribeiro for example). She talks of a kid asking difficult family questions which she shrugs off.
Colette Magny - Melocoton

If you like short melancholic folk that is more recent than dear Vashti, check Diane Cluck
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPCskFWCkw]Diane Cluck - Diamonds]

Ok, so that's why there was an error. Apologies, I proceed.

No comment needed for this Brazilian lament.
Maria Bethania - Sol Negro[/url

One of my favorites (traditional, south african revolutionary hymn)
Safa Saphel Isizwe

If you don't know this explosive riot grrl song, well you might vote for it, it's a proper album closer
Team Dresch - Screwing yet courage

Two more
Unknown twee song I like
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXIJ6kxUYV8]Spiritual vocal jazz I like

I clearly don't know how to paste those links

dang, i love that team dresch tune. saw 'em once @ Gilman but all i really remember from that night is sleater-kinney headlining and blowing my **cking mind

just voted and already have so many regrets

VOTING and CAMPAIGNING and REGRETS thread

i regret that i have but two minutes to give for my poll

Voted! Did the side-polls as well but could only think of three songs for the non-nomination bit (how did we forget Very Ape by Nirvana?). Really looking forward to the rollout!

I'm trying to listen to the playlist before voting but I'm only about 10% through. not many surprises yet other than I guess I should probably listen to some Buddy Holly because I know nothing about him and I quite liked his songs on this

Some campaigning happening over on pitchfork for "Binz" by Solange:

Under 120 seconds, it’s a perfect little sunshower of a song.

I know it's silly to want to verify the write-in process for a poll that has 2,019 nominations, but it's a crime that I forgot to nominate this (it's 1:59) on the Complete Hank Williams box)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hATx6m3Lm7I

Bleepy noisy pretty: Aniello Maffetone - VCO2

Weird outsidery folky I dunno: Philemon Arthur and the Dung - Jag Vill Va I Fred (it's < 2:00 on Spotify)

Deep dramatic Bulgarian folk: bulgarian state television female vocal choir - svatba

Haunting dramatic Bulgarian folk: molih ta majk i moli

Chill and silky smooth Malian vibes: Amadou & Mariam - M' Bifé Balafon

Enchanting Kenyan folk: Chemutoi Ketienya - Chemirocha

Minor notes for voters:

Ramones - Lover, Come Back to Me doesn't exist
Bad Boys Brains - F.V.K.
F.S.O.L. T.S.O.L. - Abolish Government/Silent Majority
Sean Price - One More Try
Heavy Vegetable - Heavy Vegetable Fired
Robert Fripp - Mary 2:06 too long <Not sure if Karl wants to remove this one

And good news.
Here's a playlist of the tracks left off spotify.
I was kind of picky with the first 95 songs and how I sequenced them. The next 300 or so songs will be more or less dumped in the playlist over the next 2 or 3 days.

Robert Fripp - Mary 2:06 too long <Not sure if Karl wants to remove this one

My apologies - my mp3 was faulty and has a skip. I just consulted my FLAC archive and it is definitely just over 2 mins.

i will remove it from the list of nominations that's linked within the Google Forms ballot, and also make the other changes mentioned in FlopsyDuck's Minor notes above. but first i am going to eat some pizza and watch game of thrones

okeydoke, updated nominations list:

https://pastebin.com/PuG4RdvE

i've updated the links to this list in the Google Form/ballot as well.

------------

if a very kind MOD sees this, it would be very kind and in character if you could once again update the three pastebin links in the OP so they point to https://pastebin.com/PuG4RdvE:

the first link is the "link to full list of nominations", near the very top.

the second is "the final list of nominees", just a few lines beneath that.

third link is in the middle: "3) **PLEASE** form your baby ballot by copying and pasting from this full list of nominations: XXXXXXXX";

thanks again Flopsy for your help, and for all the effort in putting together the playlist of songs not on Spotify, which i will definitely be making use of as i form my own ballot

btw, 15 ballots are in so far! the clemenza option is the most popular format so far (6 voters), with the full ranked vote close behind (5 voters)

Think I've got all those pastebin changes for you.

Thank you!!

oh and if yr looking for that andrew jackson jihad song on spotify, they're called ajj now -- and it's a decent little tune! (someone already said this probably)

i think i would have voted for this little jewel by hüsker dü from the manic strumming thread if it had been nominated..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIbxmwdcnmM

Kudos to person with the brains to nominate "You're Not Blank" by the Dils. What a song.

that will be on my ballot (I didn't nominate it but would have if it weren't already nominated)

Trompe Le Monde has just been removed from Spotify ffs, the title-track was one of my best discoveries in this

Jacques Lasry's Toccata seems to have gone missing from the playlist tho I'm sure it was there before. If anything we need more cristal baschet in the list :(

Ah fuck I forgot to vote for Tame

one week left!!

only 17 ballots in so far, so ... god please don't make me actively promote this

I'll try not to leave mine to the last minute, but... I usually do end up submitting at the last minute.

yup

I'm on a longlist of 83. Cutting and ordering slowly up to Saturdayish.

god please don't make me actively promote this

Having run three or four of these, always the worst part--you don't want to appear needy as you wait for ballots to arrive.

I’ll be last minute for sure.

you don't want to appear needy as you wait for ballots to arrive.

what you don't understand is that i made a bad bet, and now i owe someone big. i really DO need all these ballots to arrive, or else.

lol Leee must be cashing in all his chips

Still (foolishly?) attempting to make it through the Spotify playlist. I feel like I'm losing momentum with this project, though, so I may just finalize a ballot with what I have in the next day or two.

Same

also same. I'm working through the playlist, last day I can listen to it is Thursday so I will do the ballot then

I skipped maybe a quarter of the playlist (p much all the fast punky stuff ha) but down to the last 200 or so.

i have got almost 600 to go, this poll is tough work...

Only voted for stuff I already knew and liked, which was still a good 100-120 tracks. Going to use the playlist as a future resource,

lol Leee must be cashing in all his chips

Nice little poll you got here, shame if something were to... HAPPEN.. to it.

Last weekend I was doing something even nerdier than voting in an online music poll, so I'm aiming to finish my ballot by this weekend.

KM: If I wanted to correct something on the ballot I've submitted, how would I do that? If its not do-able, no problem...

someone else emailed me about that this morning! i just changed a setting on the Google Form so that submitters can Edit their ballots after voting (previously this setting was turned off, by default). can you try to access your ballot really quick and see if it lets you make a change?

Voted!

And was able to edit and re-submit (although didn't change anything second time around).

I don't see where I can edit. I enter my username, select my ranking preference, and it just takes me to a blank form for the rankings.

i was the one who emailed you! i also dunno how to access my old ballot to edit it... maybe i am missing something?

The edit function is on the success page with the 'Now quit your job' message.

I guess if you've closed the window for Google forms since then and got on with yr life/quit yr job, it makes sense that you can't get back to that page without starting over? Otherwise anyone could edit my ballot just knowing my ILX username. (Erm, please don't do that.)

OK, I tried that and I can't access my original ballot? I can just resubmit my corrected one, but I don't want to do that until I get the go-ahead from the poll runners.

Sorry about my delay! I’ve been in a work nightmare.

Go ahead and submit a revised vote if you don’t mind! Shouldn’t be a big deal on my end

And Will M, same for you, if that works!

comrades! listen to this joyous rendition of sailing the seas depends on the helmsman by cornelius cardew! you don't have to believe in the virtues of a centrally-planned economy to enjoy such a beautiful bit of piano playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm3SNk3ffoA

I would also like to draw your attention to the version of santiago de murcia's zarambeques o muecas by la fontegara, a sumptuous & airy piece of pre-flamenco courtly spanish guitar music that must be one of the older pieces of music of western music showing a strong african influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPBvLi90maY

OK, I've submitted my corrected ballot. Thanks for bearing with me.

also feel it wld be remiss not to mention this gorgeous track sung by some young kipsigis girls in rural kenya in the 50s who didn't understand that they were being recorded. it's such a treat and has an incredible backstory which kind of melted my brain when I learnt it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2AC8pnFpbw

the song is about this half-man half-beast character called chemirocha & dancing and leaping until your clothes fall down, but the kicker is that chemirocha = jimmie rodgers as in, t for texas jimmie rodgers, the fkn yodelling cowboy.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/jimmie_rodgers.jpg

some of his recordings had circulated in previous years and made enough of a splash that chemirocha started to be used as a more general name for a singer. this was one of three chemirocha songs that was recorded, although the other two aren't nearly so special. some ppl made a documentary tracking down some of the original performers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi8xeDrsQTs

absolutely gonna vote for Chemirocha, thanks so much for that. I've definitely heard it before on some compilation, maybe something on the Mississippi label?

i'll re-vote tmrw when im back at my work pc, thanks KM!

nice one ogmor thx

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/chemirocha-how-an-american-country-singer-became-a-kenyan-star

Sorry to be a pain Karl but I've realised I'd like to make one change to the sub-30secs section of my ballot - am I better off re-submitting my whole ballot or can I just re-do that bit?

chemirocha is a definite all-time favorite; all that hugh tracey stuff is gold

Gavin, no problem! You can just submit another ballot with nothing on it except the correction. And maybe a quick handy note explaining what to change, in case I forget the details next week as I’m sorting through all this :)

Thanks, will do!

re-submitted! for all of the pages after the main list of 50 songs I just said "please see previous ballot" hope that's ok

Yep, that’s be fine!

All ballots must by law now include “Click Click”, would be a fitting #1. RIP RR

I VOTED

Trompe Le Monde has just been removed from Spotify ffs, the title-track was one of my best discoveries in this

― PPL+AI=NS (imago), Sunday, 24 March 2019 11:44 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's back now.

I'm not even half way through the playlist, don't think there's any way I can finish it by tomorrow. oh well. I will get a ballot done tomorrow though.

I only got through about 100 songs on the playlist before I threw in the towel but found some songs for my ballot. "The Letter" is one of those songs I must have heard and enjoyed >10 times in my life but never knew the name of - thanks to whoever nommed!

did a little vote

thanks for all your hard work on this KM

Clemenza Option ftw

man, that Eraserhead song

it's a good one

Burial banger nonpareil: Stairwell

I just Clemenza Option'd. Felt good.

Decided to go with music I was already familiar with. First pass = 133 tracks.

Same and ended up with 31

Just voted

woo! some stuff i like might have an outside chance!

https://youtu.be/Uk6TD1PX22c
^cheers to whoever nominated this

link to the youtube playlist of non-spotify nominations
https://i.ibb.co/3p03hnz/pleaseextendthedeadlinebyoneweek.jpg

I was glad to discover that ditty myself. Thanks for the Youtube list, btw. A goodly chunk of my shortlist was over there.

Not least this 1981 obscurity I nominated. (Blessed with a very nifty found-footage fan video.)

looks like we're up to 30 ballots!

which is great, but hey lurkers out there or people who don't normally vote in these things - you should vote in this thing! doesn't have to be a full ballot, it can just be 20 of your faves.

even with 30 ballots, i'm a little concerned that since there are so many nominations, there will be a very wide, shallow pool of votes, with lots of ties and songs that only get 2 votes placing high, or whatever. the more ballots we get, the less of a problem that'll be.

i should vote in this. it's just hard for me to muster up the enthusiasm for random songs as opposed to a genre or single artist.

...i mean you could post a ballot that's entirely made up of guided by voices

but then there would fisticuffs

btw these are all the songs under 30 seconds:

Bikini Kill - In Accordance to Natural Law (0:28)
Brakes - Cheney (0:12)
Brian Eno - The Microsoft Sound (0:06)
Calexico - 6 White Horses (0:28)
Can - Pnoom (0:26)
Circle Jerks - Deny Everything (0:23)
Circulatory System - News from the Heavenly Loom (0:24)
Dead Kennedys - Short Songs (0:28)
Descendents - No! All (0:04)
Descendents - Weinerschnitzel (0:10)
Descendents - I Like Food (0:17)
Electrelane - Come Back (0:07)
Euros Childs - Stella is a Pygmy (0:25)
Gang Green - Snob (0:25)
George Brecht - Comb Music (0:02)
Guided by Voices - Hit (0:22)
Heavy Vegetable - Fired (0:25)
Jackson & His Computer Band - Promo (0:21)
Jad Fair - Shoes (0:26)
Jarvis Cocker - The Loss Adjuster (Excerpt 1) (0:27)
John Lennon - Nutopian International Anthem (0:04)
John Williams - 20th Century Fox Fanfare (0:21)
Johnny Hawksworth - Thames Television ident theme, c.1968-90 (0:07)
Joni Mitchell - I's a Muggin' (0:08)
Limmy - Wrong Way Down A One Way Street (0:04)
Melt-Banana - So far So bad So WHAT (0:27)
Michael Giacchino - Main Title - From "Lost" (0:17)
Moloko - Dirty Monkey (0:23)
Naked City - Blood Duster (0:18)
Naked City - Speedfreaks (0:29)
Napalm Death - You Suffer (0:02)
Necros - IQ 32 (0:23)
Out Hud - This Just In (0:28)
Sore Throat - Three Seconds Long (0:03)
Suzanne Ciani - Pop & Pour Coca (Cola Logo) (0:07)
The Beatles - Her Majesty (0:23)
The Who - Do You Think It's Alright? (0:25)
This Mortal Coil - Tears (0:22)
Vernon Elliott - Clangers Running Around the Planet! (0:19)
Wehrmacht - E! (0:01)
Wire - Field Day for the Sundays (0:28)
Wormsblood - The Asix of Adaptor (0:26)
Zoogz Rift - Idiots on the Miniature Golf Course (0:29)

i voted for a few of those in my main ballot

If I'd known limmy was there i might have made him my sole entry in the <30s poll.

This song is getting popular just as voting winds up.
Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (1:53)

Submitting a ballot this weekend

Same!

yo tambien

Voted. That was a MARATHON task.

it's just hard for me to muster up the enthusiasm for random songs as opposed to a genre or single artist

This is a genre, though--short songs. "But 'short' is subjective." So, at the margins, is any genre.

first pass through gives me a long list of only 61, I was ruthless

btw these are all the songs under 30 seconds:

look I'm sorry that I haven't been able to pay any real attention to this poll but I'm afraid you'll have to cancel and start again, this list does not include Babaganouj or Steak & Chips by Smudge

for that matter, the long list probably doesn't have Tea, Toast & Turmoil or Lighten Up Hank or Ugly, Just Like Me or Real McCoy, Wrong Sinatra or Scary Cassettes or Alison Tells Me She's Not Sure That What She's Got's Contagious (the acoustic version is better but not on Bandcamp)

OK I've checked and it doesn't, nor has Tom Morgan's other band been acknowledged with Deaf Girl, Dumb Guy, Blind Love or (Closing Time At The) Tittie Bar or B.U. or I Got A Type or Loud & True or Isle Of Lesbos

or anything at all on the
Sneeze (41 Songs In 47 Minutes) album or
other short songs on their other studio albums

or the Love Positions' Into Your Arms (covered by Lemonheads at longer than 1:38) or Don't Slow Down (went to #1 when covered by Ratcat at longer than 1:24)

eh you had plenty of time to nominate

sic, only you can save the fate of the least used sub-poll:

4) there are also three optional sub-polls: Top 5 songs under 30 seconds, Favorite <2 minutes artist, and Top 5 songs that aren’t on the nominations list because of a technical formality or because i fucked up or because it wasn’t nominated because this world is going to HELL, etc

I still don't have time to listen to noms and vote :( but will hear everything on the results

everyone should throw an ear at Deaf Girl, Dumb Guy, Blind Love though

Can we have another week to get votes in?

i could be convinced, but it would help to know that their are others out there who could use the extra time.

right now we're sitting at about 35 ballots, which is pretty good. but this is supposed to be the companion poll to lee's 10 minutes+ poll, which had 58 ballots. so it would be nice if we had a comparable number of ballots, especially given that everyone took the time to submit 17 billion nominations. i might go through the nominations thread today and see who nominated a bunch of songs but hasn't voted yet, and then send them a singing telegram informing them to vote or die

Please don’t drag this out longer

it's true, extending the deadline would seem to be contrary to the spirit of the poll

I would use an extra week to procrastinate, not do any useful listening, and wind up with the same ballot that I'd produce by tomorrow night.

Voting for no-extension...The longer any poll goes on--or at least the longer it goes on past the moment of peak interest--the more that interest wanes.

More ballots getting submitted means more people with a stake in the results. You trippin clemenza

Not at all. Maybe you get 3 or 4 extra ballots, while simultaneously the 35 people who have already voted are steadily losing interest; I know I do, and I bet I'm not the only one.

The deadline was posted three or four weeks ago, with a very sensible suggestion that the fate of the world did not hinge upon the results and that it wasn't necessary to hear every single song before voting.

I expect nothing less than quick voters being impatient and having the ability to lose interest quickly though. I should be jealous of people that have the ability to get real excited about things though.

You've convinced me. Let's extend the deadline to July; there are under-2:00 songs being released as we type, and we need to hear those too.

Sorry--general frustration. We go through this with the ILX film poll too, with people wanting to push back the poll until they're able to see everything (so we do it in the summer now). I just find the whole nomination-discussion-results cycle of every ILX/ILM poll takes forever.

Nahh. Keep things the way they are. It doesn't matter to me if I don't submit a ballot since I had fun making that youtube playlist. That’s my baby. Not the results.

I have managed to make all 300+ songs transition nicely so far. I have been reuploading youtubes just to make less severe volume change between songs. I have reached a punk/metal/noise block in the playlist and I look forward to syncing those songs together as I finish the playlist.

flopsy can you can just submit an unranked ballot of your fave songs from your youtube playlist? or something

(xpost) That's it; what you get out of these things, to me, has little or nothing to do with the results or how comprehensive your ballot is. I'm sure your playlist helped lots of people fill in gaps. For me, the fun is in putting my ballot together from what I already know, plus the first couple of weeks of discussion. When the results are posted, I may listen to any high-placing songs I don't know (I'm more inclined to seek out high-placing films I haven't seen).

I can probably hastily throw something together tomorrow. Saturdays are for lying in bed til dinner.

Karl, please post the youtube playlist next to the spotify playlist at the top of the results thread. Thanks

Can you just use my nomination list on the other thread as my ballot? I have no time to engage this any further but thought about my noms at that time.

Ballet submitted.

XXXP: Hehe, I thought about nominating Smudge, Sneeze, et al, but Aus stuff so often arouses limited interest. (Though "Into Your Arms" was there.) Nice to see them acknowledged, sic.

i have absolutely no idea which songs are doing better than others (haven't put them into a spreadsheet yet or looked closely at any ballot), but let me try to give a final weekend boost to Scott Walker's "On Your Own Again", which is top 5 for me

Just preparing ballot now, and have noticed that the Cleftones - 'Heart and Soul' is duplicated on the nominations list

Cleftones - Heart and Soul (1:53)
The Cleftones - Heart and Soul (1:54)

Clemenza'd the 'ell out of it. Thanks, Karl! This has been very fun!

eh you had plenty of time to nominate

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2019 18:17 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM

Voting for non-extension also.

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and a little voice whispers "ooh my soul"

Voted late, but voted.

VOTED

i will submit my ballot today but i think a small extension of a day or something like that would be ok if that would generate more ballots. i don't remember a poll with a totally fixed deadline.

Submitted!

ok ignore my last note (I mean that was going to happen anyway), I managed to find a little time to vote. I hope Guided By Voices gets shut out, I mean I like them but c'mon.

I'm getting there!

lol is this deadline on Chicago time Karl? I can be done by 9 PM if so.

Surely it’s ‘wherever in the world it’s still the 31st’?

Thank you hawaii!

Surely it’s ‘wherever in the world it’s still the 31st’?

yep!

(and tbh, don't tell anyone but there's no way i'm working on any of these ballots until 6pm (Chicago/EST) on Monday (which, unfortunately, is April Fools day, so now it'll be left in doubt whether this is all a joke), so if get your votes in by then you'll be fine. but definitely try to get them in by Hawaii Midnight if you can)

This last round of cuts is TORTURE. I was doing okay until I got to 55, now I feel like I'm killing my babies.

*evil laugh*

we're up to 45 ballots btw! with emil.y, sleeve, and alex in mainhattan's, plus my own, plus a mystery voter that i choose to believe in and that you cannot disprove, that brings us to 50

I'll get mine in later today.

I'm just so thankful for the under 30 seconds side poll, because that meant I could cut those from my main ballot and keep them for their own category (though I did really want to see 'You Suffer' in the main poll). Up until now I forgot about the artist side poll, and also failed to write down non-nominated songs as I remembered them, so might only have one for that (it's a definite big one for me personally, though).

I'll get mine in later today.

― 16 Historic English ILXors You Must Explore Soon (WmC)

i believe in you

voted!

oh, there's a non-spotify playlist? cool, it's far too late for me to vote but i will check out the youtube playlist at least!

dangit rushomancy, it's not far too late to vote!

just do an unranked ballot, 20 of your faves or whatever! vote or die! don't die!

sorry, i just can't do it! do a poll of favorite songs that are exactly 2:00 long and maybe i can do it. :) glad to see the kenny process team got nominated, though! i've loved "mouse in the hole" for ages.

voted!

Voted, and already filled with regret. Also lol @ the 'you have voted' message.

Voted.

voted, hope i've done it correctly km.

echoing emil.y's post

thanks km i think this will be a lovely rollout.

ok let's do this ballot thing then

Ballot submitted!

Voted

voted

Voted! had too many after culls, so removed some which would obviously have support from others, this will mean that none of my choices place, but so it goes

Karl, does that google ballot submission form happen to do the tabulations for you as well, or is it just a way to acquire the lists? I'd like to use this voting setup for the Bacharach poll if it's not too hard to figure out.

Voted! That was too much for my heart

And voted!

voted.

people. Thank you for mitigating my 90s indie rock ballot.

Karl, does that google ballot submission form happen to do the tabulations for you as well, or is it just a way to acquire the lists?

just a way to acquire the lists. it just collects i ripped the idea off from the recent 2018 year end polls. but it does let you organize the questions in a certain way, have different sections of the poll and mark some as optional, and then collects everyone's answers in a spreadsheet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4bV48qEIk

somehow I left this beaut off my noms list

Ugh this is hard. My ballot will be coming soon.

i haven't even started wittling it down yet. i'm still at around 80-90 songs category, and still listening to more things. it's been a fun weekend of listening!

Voted but couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the Mary Poppins tracks.

Voted.

voted, standing by for more directions

i'm happily doing spreadsheet shenanigans now. still time to vote, though! it ain't midnight in Hawaii yet. (and it isn't 6pm EST on April Fool's day, either, although, is that deadline even real?)

Voted! My first ILM poll not of the multiple choice variety.

c'mon lurkers make this shit real

i voted

forgot to nominate this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRI6HsTLAjU

i voted was fun

forgot to nom anything from the ovens triple LP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5LfrFuOBU

1,300 songs, 50+ voters...I bet 2.00 votes, appropriately enough, will get you onto the countdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27x_BFVVyQ

didn't vote but am eagerly awaiting results.

Loving this Spotify playlist! Thanks, Karl!

FYWI, I would have nominated these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxS7a7GDqt0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-LxhaipLPk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMkbLbvtBUc

I voted for "Lights Out," so it must have been nominated (I didn't stray from the list).

busy finishing up the vote tallies!

any thoughts on the name of the results thread would be helpful. otherwise you'll get something really bad, with even more ascii music note symbols

keep it simple, use the Dead Kennedys' "I Like Short Songs" title

even though I did not vote for it, it is kind of a statement of purpose

"Cut Off My Legs and POLL Me Shorty?"

'Brevity is the Soul of Hits'

Apologies to W. Shakespeare for that.

Something could probably be mined from Jacques Dutronc's "Mini, mini, mini", another actual treatise on smallness amongst the nominations.

This Is the End of the Stupid Song: The Under-2:00 Results Thread

Top ≤119

Brevity is... wit

people = shit
brevity = wit

Keep it short & sweet: The best 119 songs under 2 minutes

Or better: Poll it short & sweet

"It Won't Be Long," to paraphrase one of the nominated Byrds songs.

ILX Jams Econo: best 119 etc etc

"30 Minutes or Less or This Poll Is Free"

There's no time to explain:

You people are iconoclasts, mockers of institutions. Poll thread titles need to play off the word poll. Submitted for your approval: POLL Art Threat

(from Prole Art Threat by the Fall, a nominee)

Briefly:

YOU POLL BUT WHY

^

^^

Poll thread titles need to play off the word poll

I know I'm going to lose this one, but please, please, no.

YOU POLL BUT WHY

Yes!

Someone explain to this dummy?

idgi either

reference to "You Suffer" iirc

yes indeed

sorry to insist but where is the relation to the shortness of the songs?

that part usually comes after the pun

Hey everyone, here’s my rough plan:

Rollout on Friday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, about 20-30 per day. Mostly during daytime/working hours (USA) but maybe a few in the early evening as well.

I wanted to start today but I didn’t have time to finish up the first batch of images before heading in to work.

You'll probably have a slower start in terms of responses as people will be out for the weekend, but I like the sound of a Wednesday climax (ahem).

Yeah, there’s also the option of starting on Monday and finishing on Friday? That would give me time to get more of a head start on the images for the rollout, too. I just didn’t want people to be pissed that it was taking forever to get to the results.

End of year polls tend to be Monday to Friday and that seems to work for good engagement/excitement, and it's not been all that long yet! I'd probably vote for Mon-Fri but don't have a massively strong preference.

if you do start tomorrow then i would skip sat-sun and start up again monday. you could start tomorrow and do the first 19 then you have 20 per day next mon-fri. do what you want with the time you have.

agreed with spottie

Side polls and a handful of results Friday, main deal starting Monday?

Sounds like a plan. Taster on Friday before the main course next week.

cosign last 2 posts

Sounds good! I should be able to do 20 tomorrow. And also 2 of the side polls.

did anyone vote for Morpha Too, because it is, no kidding my favorite Big Star song and among my all time favorite songs

This POLLS up to 11(9 seconds)

i am way too excited for this poll

Really looking forward to this. Most polls I have a pretty good idea what will win, but here I haven’t a clue. Could be a rock ‘n’ roll classic, amphetamine punk or one of a million GBV tracks. Whatever, sure it’ll be super entertaining.

I'm going to be super ill if neither of my top 2 make at least top 3.

Haven't a clue either. With the long songs, there is sort of a loose canon: "Marquee Moon," "Dark Star," Neil's long ones, Dylan's long ones, etc. I don't know if there's really a famous short song outside of "Her Majesty," and no way that'll win.

Well, I guess there are a handful: "Blitzkrieg Bop," too.

lol what was the Ramones average song length on their first couple of albums?

There are 15 songs on the first three albums under 2:00--"famous" is a relative term, but outside of Ramones fans (in which case they're all famous), I don't know if I'd count any of them as famous. The two songs from those first three albums I would classify as such, "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "Sheena Is Punk Rocker," both are over 2:00 ("Sheena" almost runs 3:00).

To answer your question: about two minutes?

Yah not many canon short songs under 2 mins which will make this rollout all the more weird and good. Hope it’s not just a ton of repeat artists tho.

not a ton, but there are some repeats - i believe the top 120 is made up of 104 different artists

Sweet!

gonna be a lotta votesplitting with some of these more-frequently-nominated artists I think, for better or worse

alright, please move your butts over here

Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)

woop woop

Thanks Karl, great work.

Also: I'm going to whine on here that none of the songs I like is going to make it, then I don't need to make a stink about it on the main thread. /ok, whine over

Yes it's started! My top songs were very idiosyncratic and probably don't have a hope in hell. I was good and limited myself to 3 GBV songs so I can only have limited blame if we get flooded with them