NOUGHT BUT THE TRUTH: 2000-2009 albums & tracks VOTING (and campaigning) thread DEADLINE OCTOBER 11

And so it has come to this: 1682 albums, 1884 tracks. Your job is to distil each of those into a mere 50, and present your findings to the committee, who will, after three weeks, reveal the ineluctable will of our particular gathering of musical superfans, with regard to the decade of its blessed creation.

There'll be house! There'll be rap! There'll be indie! There'll Beyoncé!

But how, how to vote? I hear you cry.

Well, noted committee member seandalai has very kindly contributed the following SUPERCHARGED version of his famed EOY template, now with added rocket boosters for top 5 placements!

VOTING FORM

A few things (most of which are reiterated in the form):

- COPY AND PASTE FROM THE ALBUMS AND TRACKS LISTS. Don't just type up your nominations from scratch. For example, you may THINK you're voting for Pink - Get The Party Started but you're NOT because it's actually P!nk - Get the Party Started with an exclamation mark and that will be the ONLY way to get your nomination NOTICED. Even if it's misspelt, you have to use the version from the spreadsheet.

- You can do a weighted, mixed, unweighted or 'missing' ballot. Not doing weighted or mixed misses out on the awesome super bonuses for top five placements, though, so, your choice, y'know.

- I'm working on finishing the Spotify playlists - the closer I get to the end, the further away it seems to recede! They're about three-quarters done as it stands.

Spotify albums playlist (I've picked what seems like a nice meaty track off each album as representative)

Spotify tracks playlist

- Non-Spotify tracks are being campaigned for here: NOUGHTIES/NOWTS/00s POLL CAMPAIGNING SIDE-THREAD: Youtube, Bandcamp & other links to YOUR nominations that AREN'T ON SPOTIFY

- The deadline is the night of October 11 but really it's when seandalai wakes up the next morning.

- Listen to as much as you can before voting! This comes by order* of THE COMMITTEE. Also, stay safe and have fun!

*not actually an order

a huge undertaking. thank you imago

and also seandalai and any others who make this possible

I love the idea of a supercharged version of the ballot

Would it be possible to post the nomination lists to Pastebin? A basic text file is easier for me to handle than a spreadsheet.

^ yes, this!

in addition to Sheena Ringo (who i wrote a little bit about here: Best albums (and tracks) of YOUR favourite albums (and tracks) of the ENTIRE NOUGHTIES: 2000-2009 Ballot Poll Nominations + Campaigning Thread) i wanna campaign for a few more things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbiSxunJatM
Perfume's "Polyrhythm" is one of the most thrilling pop songs i've ever heard, its polyrhythmic breakdown never gets old. would be a wonderful pop song even without all the rhythmic tricks but those take it to an even higher level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppSAGtNQcfY
Cymbals Eat Guitars's Why There Are Mountains is one of my favourite rock albums. reminiscent of the proggier/structurally weirder end of pavement etc. but still relentlessly catchy and with electric piano, vibraphone, organ and trumpet all over the place which softens the sound a little and certainly helps it to stand out from its 90s influences. easily the best thing to come out of that whole late 00s/early 10s wave of 90s revivalism.

thanks for doing this imago/seandalai! just spotted a typo in the albums list: Stars - Set Yourself Fire should be Stars - Set Yourself on Fire

got my albums down to a top 100 and I'm wiped out. Don't even know how I'm going to cut it in half - the 00s were a brutal time for me and a bunch of these records literally saved my life.

I noticed that in the track noms, Björk's name is written both as "Björk" and as "Bjork", without the umlaut. I have a habit of correcting missing umlauts, but if I vote for, say, "Pagan Poetry" as Björk and not as "Bjork", will it mess the voting automation?

It definitely risks the result not being noticed, especially if people have already voted for it in the 'wrong' spelling. Keep it as it is and if it places I'll make sure it's spelt properly in the rollout.

As for Pastebin, I'll see if the tracks and albums can be c&p'd into a Pastebin later (perhaps someone who's at home on a computer could also try this?)

PASTEBIN LINKS

ALBUMS: https://pastebin.com/Wfah3xgN
TRACKS: https://pastebin.com/BwpjM95h

Thanks!

Voted.

pastebin has long spaces at the end of each line, could these be removed as could cause problems?

i'm absolutely loving revisiting all this 00s music, my estimation for the decade is going through the roof

me too!

i had it pegged as a strange and slightly shit prototype of the current time of wonder but there's a lot to love, even if the music is a bit more wide-eyed and gauche

I was going through the nominations and I noticed this one:

"Cut Copy - Lights and Magic"

Shouldn't that be "Lights and Music"?

That's on the tracks list, BTW

If it places, they'll correct it in the rollout. This goes for any misspelled track or album. Take it from me, former EOY poll runner!

If people can't remember or look up the names of tracks and albums they love enough to nominate for a decade-wide poll, that's on them

Still a few 2010 tracks in the list too but doubt they will place high enough for it to matter

name names and I will weigh up zapping them

Hot Chip - One Life Stand (Jan 2010 release)
Oni Ayhun - OAR004-A
Robyn - Dancing On My Own

"The Kidnapper Bell" by Mono (from Japan), the best track that Mogwai never wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ouoQ_wAGOc

Campaign time!

If you like your black metal trve, black and nihil, nihil, nihil, like a delicious poisonous dish on the side, do check out Lurker of Chalice's 's/t' album. It is thee best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoMxDvkPZr8

You should check this out, Pom and LJ.

/algeriangoalkeeperstanning

I feel like most of these are extremely obvious (at least to me), but just wanting to make sure people don't forget to vote for New Amerykah Part One (the album of the decade), Aaliyah (the album of the decade), Overpowered (the album of the decade), Complex Simplicity (the album of the decade), Blackout (the album of the decade), and, of course, Voodoo (the album of the decade)

anyway as you can see my list making is going extremely well and I'm not having any trouble at all putting things in order

Statues >>>> Overpowered though

not voting for any of those, see u in the results thread

lol but blackout might make my ballot

still not sure about the best songs, but the hands-down best song name: "Dress Sexy at My Funeral"

ppl who don’t vote for aaliyah clown themselves

I have my albums just about ready. Trying to cut my tracks list down is an actual nightmare.

tough deciding whether i'm going to vote for 4 black dice albums or 5 black dice albums

You should check this out, Pom and LJ.

I will, thanks. It's been on my list of pending albums for a while now.

Will listen to that, but for now, let's keep this thread clutter-free (i.e. no Youtubes pls)

lurker of chalice is the same dude as leviathan, he is a deeply fucked up person but that record is p good yeah

Considering being a coward and sending unranked ballots

I'm almost ready to submit, but Monotony has got me thinking that I might need room for that wonderful Teedra Moses album.

track campaign: Cortney Tidwell - Don't Let Stars Keep Us Tangled Up (Ewan Pearson's Objects In Space mix)

probably the greatest thing i've ever heard

I sort of assumed everyone had heard that already? but yes extremely good

i mean me too but i can’t assume anything on ilm

Don't Let The Stars is one of the songs that I wasn't aware of until it place in the 2005-09 poll. It's gorgeous.

this is gonna be tough, i just hit 50 and i'm only at F alphabetically

Hot Chip - One Life Stand (Jan 2010 release)
Oni Ayhun - OAR004-A
Robyn - Dancing On My Own

― nashwan, Monday, September 23, 2019 5:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

all zapped

One Life Stand was released digitally in November 2009, so please unzap it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Life_Stand_(song)

unzapped!

Thanks!

if nashwan turns up with evidence that november 2009 was actually in this decade though, we've got problems

i got a bit more selective but still ended up with 127 albums on my first pass

shortlist of 200 nearly ..

campaigning wise I hope people dont forget the albums by Isis and Agalloch on the noms list.

Also Yob - Catharsis which is the best album they made in the OG incarnation if not the best in both.

Zombi - Spirit Animal
And Emeralds - What Happened?
for the non metal synth fans on ILM

making sure everybody plans to vote for the meadowlands.

that is all.

Creeping up my album ballot: múm - Finally We Are No One.

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

that's in my 200
xp

i think it probably won't need the help but everyone please remember to vote for the magnolia electric co, the best album of the 2000s

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

― ciderpress, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:58 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not to rain on anybody's parade but this:

Kaija Saariaho / Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Esa-Pekka Salonen / Kronos Quartet ‎– Du cristal …à la fumée / Sept papillons / Nymphéa

…is a reissue of a 1993 album with Sept papillons tacked on.

ZAPPED

And didn't Sigur Rós's Ágætis byrjun come out in JUNE 1999?

that one's a bit controversial

it was released in iceland in 1999, don't think it had a global release until 2000/2001

that's a totally acceptable year of impact thing imo

i'm not zapping jon and his yelping

pitchfork, rolling stone, et al have already run 00s lists with it in there i think it's grandfathered in now

Yeah we discussed Agaetis Byrjun earlier, din't get a release outside of Iceland until mid 2000.

This is hard. My longlist was about 200 albums. Cutting it down to 100 was not a big problem, but the hurting has def started.

I've got about 100 too at this point and am afraid to go any further.

voted. had the albums list already like 99% thought out. winged the tracks voting but I feel strongly about it. lots of nostalgia when putting these together. thanks a lot for setting this all up.

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

― ciderpress, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:58 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:04 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

― ciderpress, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:58 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:04 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

― Simon H., Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:59 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Emeralds - What Happened?

well worth your time if you dig floaty space synth action with a bit of grit in the mix

I’ll put some information on some of the more niche stuff I’ll be voting for up in phases. A couple of tracks:

Kapela Ze Wsi Warszawa- Maydow - Polish drone-folk. KZWW were early participants in Poland’s roots revival scene, taking near-forgotten trad melodies / styles at risk of disappearing in a country perceived as being indifferent to its cultural heritage and incorporating them into new songs. A lot of their stuff is fairly jaunty but Maydow has a strong folk-horror vibe that may appeal to fans of Espers or the Wicker Man idk.

Kasia Stankiewicz - Francuzeczka - I have vivid memories of going to Poland for the first time, getting to the hotel, switching on the TV and the video for this sprawling electro-pop marvel playing. I’ve been transfixed ever since.

The Konki Duet - Il Fait Tout Gris Released slightly before the Nouvelle Vague album but with a similar concept, it’s a French cello cover of Fade To Grey. There isn’t the same sense of ironic detachment you get with Olivier Libeaux’s project though, it’s played dead straight and works wonderfully.

Lady Saw - Five Star Hotel Probably a minor entry in her immense discography but the combination of Mario C’s bouncy Bomb-A-Drop riddim and Saw’s lyrics about precisely which hotels she’d let suitors take her to is enormous fun.

imago -- Brandy - "Full Moon" should be on the track list, not albums.

Maryanne Amacher's Sound Characters is on the albums list but was released too early for the poll.

Brandy - Full Moon is on both lists - presumably the track is a title-track? It was nominated by Jeff W as an album too

Maryanne Amacher is about to be zapped

I voted. I was surprised that I got up to >50 albums and had to make cuts - most of my heavy album listening was in college (which excludes most of the 00s). But the last couple years I've been catching up on a lot of more recent albums. Tracks was TOUGH.

Ah ok! For some reason I didn't see it on the tracks (it is there) and assumed it fell into the wrong list.

imago, google docs is unfortunately blocked on my laptop so i have to send them over via my phone which loses all the 'special characters'
i'll try sort any ones out on my voting slips but apologies if i miss any

More tracks:

Raymond & Maria - Ingen Vill Veta Var Du Köpt Din Tröja - Raymond & Maria have cornered the market in sweet acoustic indie-pop songs about how capitalism can lead to a decent standard of living but is ultimately dehumanising (Jobs Where They Don’t Know Our Names, The Fish Are Swimming Slower Every Year, etc). Their best is Ingen Vill Veta Var Du Köpt Din Tröja, re-released a couple of years later in English as No-One Notices Your Brand-New T-Shirt. The chorus approximates to “no-one will be sad when you die / nobody will miss you / nobody even cares where you bought your shirt / even though you’ve done everything that you should / you’ve been polite and happy / and you’ve worked hard to lose that stupid accent”.

Calle 13 - Atrevete-te-te - One of the most popular reggaeton songs of the decade – poking fun at a girl who listens to “pop-rock Latino”, Green Day and Coldplay and is too snobby for Puerto Rican music. Good use of cumbia clarinets.

Delfin - Vesna - Maudlin Russian electro-pop is very much my jam and Delfin’s glittering Vesna with its single verse (forgive me / it’s spring where I’m going / can you find me?) repeated like an incantation is one of the most affecting things of the decade.

B-Jeans - Ei Saa - Estonian Italodisco packed with twinkling synths and rolled consonants. Estonian pop of the era was still a strange cottage industry where almost everything seemed to be written or produced by one guy – Sven Lohmus. I’m 99% sure this was one of his.

Capleton - Long Time - Almost everything on South Rakkas’ infectious Bionic Ras riddim is good but Capleton’s Long Time is a standout. He’s probably marginally better known for conscious reggae these days but excelled at being silly as well.

Sammi Cheng - 808 - Sammi is probably best known in the West for her acting (Blind Detective, Everlasting Regret, etc) but has sold tens of millions of albums at home. Most of her records are fairly boilerplate Cantopop ballads but 808 has a wonderfully woozy charm.

Not to rain on anybody's parade but this:

Kaija Saariaho / Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Esa-Pekka Salonen / Kronos Quartet ‎– Du cristal …à la fumée / Sept papillons / Nymphéa

…is a reissue of a 1993 album with Sept papillons tacked on.

I'm sure it is.

I quite like the Lurker of Chalice, LBI. It's less metal-oriented than I expected (in a good way), almost d&b/trip-hop-ish in parts, and much better than the couple of Leviathan albums I've heard.

damn, we managed not to nominate the hold steady's separation sunday? not my number one, but probably my number two

shit, well when i was nominating my bonus picks, i ctrl+f'd for it, and thought I saw it nominated, but it turns out it was posted in a "pitchfork top 200 albums of the 00s that haven't been nominated yet" post.

I'm glad you like it Pom! It's way better than Leviathan, I agree.

xp oh sorry for the confusion, i was a little afraid that might happen. it wasn't the p4k list though it was from the ilx one

ah word. bummer. i'll vote for a different hold steady album instead, unless we're accepting beyond-last-minute additions?

if nominations were prevented by mischance rather than negligence i suppose i can be lenient. check the nominations list later (or tomorrow) perhaps...

*prayer hands emoji*

craig finn would approve

this is how a resurrection really feels

feel it's important to note that halfway through life without buildings 'the leanover' i was all 'hmm, what is this' and then by the end i was in tears, so there's that

I went through the albums list and I had heard 118 front to back. Looking at the list I got, it does look like a part of the music I was listening to from 2000-2009. I do think these polls are good places to start to check out other music you don't know.

ok

the Spotify playlists are COMPLETE (bar any quibbling)

enjoy!

thanks so much imago!!!!! you are a true champ!

just popping in to give some love to the Black Angels – Directions to See a Ghost which is actually incredible, even though one might be tempted to unfairly dismiss it as just another generic CMJ-fodder indie-psych album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSIYjYjoRBY

Can you add this to the Spotify tracks list: https://open.spotify.com/track/3kFEX1OTRaZ5WfX3X42BQP?si=63m-IAXtSo-IHFEJS1eSCA

(it's "Chocolate Disco" by Perfume which I nominated, just in katakana transliteration)

kinda shocked that imago had never heard life without buildings before

THIS IS TOO DAMN HARD TO FILTER TO 50!

lol yes

I find that whole Life Without Buildings LP inexplicably moving. I was just saying off-site yesterday that it could even be my #1 album if I can manage to rank stuff. (Almost certainly #1 guitar-y record anyway.)

I think I'll vote for The Meadowlands too.

I find that whole Life Without Buildings LP inexplicably moving. I was just saying off-site yesterday that it could even be my #1 album if I can manage to rank stuff. (Almost certainly #1 guitar-y record anyway.)

― Nag! Nag! Nag!

Yeah, it's always a very emotional listen for me too. It'll be doing well on my list.

It will be in the supercharged part of my ballot for sure.

wait why is Blueberry Boat not in the pastebin link?

cuz it's in the Spotify playlist and I am sure as hell voting for it

checking and imago himself nominated it as the very first nomination so i think it's safe to vote for it

aw, Darkspace I and III, but no II? II is the best!

xp oh it's under "The Fiery Furnaces" along with Gallowsbird's Bark, carry on

hey my first pass through the albums got me just under 100, not bad

imago at 2:46 25 Sep 19

I'm sure it is.

I think I'll vote for The Meadowlands too.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:06 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Alfred!!!!

voted

lethal bizzle 'pow' has so many feat artists that it takes up 2 lines on the ballot is this gonna be a problem for tabulation or no?

poll worth it for making me dig out 'run the road' comp for the first time in years.

I nearly nominated Wiley ft. "England 10"'s 'She Likes To' and not that it would've made the 77 but crediting all the MCs featured on tbe track on an image might've been a 'fun' headache too.

Two things:

1. Don't forget to vote for Gravenhurst. 'Hollow Men', his only nominated track, is not his most representative song, but it's awesome. The two nominated albums are undeniable masterpieces.

2. Please pay attention to three late-career / career-ending albums that are very much overlooked and/or underrated: In Prism by Polvo, My Heart Has a Wish That You Would Not Go by Aereogramme and The Rising Tide by Sunny Day Real Estate.

All three contain some of their very best songs:

Polvo:
'Beggar's Bowl'
'Lucia'

Aereogramme:
'A Life Worth Living'
'The Running Man'

Sunny Day Real Estate:
'Snibe'
'The Rising Tide'

will certainly be voting for the rising tide

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I also voted for The Rising Tide. I'm not sure when people started to come around on it but it seemed like it was completely ignored for years

so much to choose from yet I'm still thinking of stuff I forgot to nominate like Lil Kim's "The Jump Off", Kelis' "Caught Out There", the Emancipation of Mimi, and Kylie's Body Language. :(

The Utada Hikaru track "Hikari" should be this one by the way: https://open.spotify.com/track/7CVug9n4FomAqQV4RCunYv?si=JL-bX5eIS8yL8qzrTPR4dg
Or its English version, "Simple and Clean": https://open.spotify.com/track/74ZhWPdUHlVjFmXFD2JOVv?si=fGJ0T9ldQ-KoWzqUxc3Rdw

amended!

Kelis' "Caught Out There"

1999

thanks lj xp

cheers Brad, one less song to feel bad about lol

if nominations were prevented by mischance rather than negligence i suppose i can be lenient. check the nominations list later (or tomorrow) perhaps...

― imago, Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:21 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

do we have a verdict here?

ready to vote, just waiting for this one judgment from the almighty poll-runner

check the nominations list!

I still think its wrong Dopesmoker was denied as its different to Jersusalem, nobody in their right mind would vote for the 1996 version of Jersusalem and most people hadn't heard it. but hey I was ill in bed so couldn't argue its case

Everybody vote Dopethrone instead

Can't remember the last time I've felt dumber for letting something pass me by for so damn long as the Life Without Buildings album. An incredible, mysterious gem.

I still think its wrong Dopesmoker was denied as its different to Jersusalem, nobody in their right mind would vote for the 1996 version of Jersusalem and most people hadn't heard it. but hey I was ill in bed so couldn't argue its case

― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:21 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm sure everyone can use their imagination

oh wait dopesmoker was denied bc it's technically from the '90s? yeah i think that's fair

check the nominations list!

― imago, Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:03 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sweeeeet

I would like to remind everyone to vote for Asa Chang & Junray - Hana.

And Sheets of Easter.

Also La Ritournelle.

Both wouldn't place but am now noticing the 'Progress Reform' EP by I Like Trains and This Will Destroy You's s/t aren't nominated, two records I'd vote for if possible.

Following on from Roz' Utada Hikaru recommendation, some of the Japanese / HK stuff I’ll be voting for:

Puffy – Spike (Japanese Version): Famous in the West for their Cartoon Network show but their English-language songs never came close to doing them justice. Spike was mostly produced by Andy Sturmer from Jellyfish and there’s a strong jangle-pop influence to some of the album but it’s vastly better than his own band’s records. Asia No Junshin and Sumire are particular highlights but the whole thing’s a delight.

Faye Wong – Fable: Grand, sweeping, cinematic pop from HK’s greatest superstar. New Tenant and Chanel

Tommy February6 – Tommy Airline: When Tomoko Kawase left the (very pleasant) indie-pop group The Brilliant Green, she started parallel solo careers as Tommy February6, a jovial, alcoholic J-Pop star and Tommy Heavenly6, her goth counterpart / nemesis. None of this made any sense but the records were superb. Sepia Memory and Je t’aime Je t’aime.

Ayumi Hamasaki – Duty: A huge star, and fashion icon, in Japan for twenty years, it’s easy to overlook how amazing her opening run of albums with Max Matsuura’s Avex Trax label was. She could never really sing but they worked around that with anthemic Eurodance and dramatic, noisy pop. Surreal and Vogue.

Utada Hikaru – Exodus: Although I do like Simple & Clean a lot, I was never a fan of Utada Hikaru until her big attempt to extend her Japanese mega-stardom to the US with Exodus. Exodus 04, produced by Timbaland, and the intricate Kremlin Dusk are two of the best.

just voted and am already filled with regret. (no more regret than usual, i guess).

looking forward to the results.

I've concluded that since paring down to 50 and sorting within those 50 is pretty much impossible it's best to just wing it and embrace the chaos.

Just voted and I literally got a headache after doing so.

i have a lawyer

hahaha

I suspect no-one (esp the poll runner) is in favour of allowing three *add your non-nominated albums/tracks here*? It's not usance in these polls with a decade spanning poll, with stakes so high (lol), would it be a too hard a breach of etiquette to allow, say, three non-nominated entries on the ballot?

(I know a majority probably detests it but I had to try and ask, regardless)

Down to 109 albums. What a decade.

In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2.

omar little is an ilx institution and we all have our reasons iirc

Since we're allowed to post youtubes here I'd like ilxors to give a listen to this title track (its not metal, honest) its synthy goodness that I'm sure a lot of ilxors would like if they were introduced to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjXlNSlAMXI

There’s a terrible Coldplay album somewhere on the noms too.

Surprised that indie folk popular acts from the 00’s like Bon Iver, Devendra Banhart and Sufjan Stevens were almost completely ignored. I know this is ILM but still.

Oh wait I see the Sufjan albums are all in there, still he’s very underrepresented in the tracks poll. I don’t think I even voted for him, not huge on the songs from Chicago which were the couple of noms. I think his best songs are in seven swans and michigan.

sent! hope i didn't fuck up!

There’s a terrible Coldplay album somewhere on the noms too.

viva la vida is the best coldplay album and i may vote for it

I would have voted for Parachutes had I nominated it or found it on the noms list.

you never meant to cause us trouble

I'd sort kidded myself that Martin became progressively duller, lyric-wise, but christ, I just looked at some of the Parachutes lyrics and that's a slough of despond right there.

In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2

The error was nominating the wrong hated U2 album. I think How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb would make my top 50, maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind in the right mood, but even I can't get behind No Line on the Horizon

viva la vida is easily the best coldplay album but there's no chance it'll make my top 50

htdaab and nloth are both pretty dreadful, easily some of the worst u2 albums, but of the two nloth is at least kinda interesting in places and there's the general feeling of maybe it could have been something worthwhile if they hadn't gotten scared and changed paths halfway through recording

voted.

albums ballot turned out to be relatively painless in the end, but I chickened out and didn't do a weighted ballot for tracks - it was hard enough to compile, let alone rank.

It might be Coldplay’s best but I can’t think of a single reason I’d like to listen to it, let alone vote for it, over 500+ of the noms.

Of interest, I think:

15th anniversary edition of Complex Simplicity is out, with some added tracks. It’s on Spotify as well, from where the original album has been absent for a long time, at least where I live.
https://ratedrnb.com/2019/09/teedra-moses-releases-15th-anniversary-edition-of-complex-simplicity/

no lollipop on the tracks list?

PSA: If voting for DMX 'Party Up' please base it on the original recording / music video version rather than the distinctly inferior version that is on Spotify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thIVtEOtlWM

VOTED

btw having copied and pasted from the sheet the entry for Studio includes the qualifier still Studio - West Coast / Yearbook 1 -- these are more or less the same album

I voted.

I managed to get the albums into some kind of order. Tracks seemed hopeless, so I did a top 5 then had the rest unweighted. I did one album/track per artist (altho I goofed and included two Jay-Z tracks, oh well), and still I had to cut out some great artists entirely.

have to start seriously thinking about this

Voted! So relieved to get this done. I promised myself I wouldn't overthink it and get stressed out, but that very much did not happen.

My one shout out is for Long Gone Before Daylight by The Cardigans. I wasn't expecting to love it as much as I did when it quietly appeared in 2003 and many years on it has become one of my favourite heartbreak records of all time.

in some ways, it was a decade that started with !!! and ended with Zwan, especially when one takes an alphabetical perspective of album artists.

have to start seriously thinking about this

― Dan S

voted!

i'm having a hell of a time even getting my Tracks list under 100.

I've decided the first track and am pretty close on another one. If everything goes well and there are no complications with technology I'm aiming for 5

I forgot how great Akufen's "My Way" is. I actually removed it from my ballot before finding it on youtube for a re-listen. The sad thing is that I own this cd, too.

Voted earlier today, finally.

"finally"? I got nine days left!

albums list is easier for me than the tracks one

lol @ "gold digger" not being nominated

t/s

Bat for Lashes - What's a Girl to Do?
Fatima Yamaha ‎– What's A Girl To Do?

t/s

Fabolous – Breathe
Faith Hill – Breathe

this is real music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6JNE-bSCc

lol @ "gold digger" not being nominated

And yet "Legendary K.O. – George Bush Doesn’t Care About Black People" is.

I hugely fucked up not nominating Ashlee Simpson "Pieces Of Me" or Jimmy Eat World "Work"

i forgot Duck :'(

Don’t know how I forgot to nominate Goldfrapp’s Ride a White Horse (Ewan Pearson disco odyssey).

I believe I nominated Strict Machine, if that helps!

Strict Machine is great but the Ewan Pearson remix is next level. I’ll definitely vote for his remix of Cortney Tidwell’s ‘Don’t Let The Stars Keep us Tangled Up’ which is in the same vein.

I forgot how great Akufen's "My Way" is. I actually removed it from my ballot before finding it on youtube for a re-listen. The sad thing is that I own this cd, too.

Just did exactly these same things! My CD is probably not more than 3 metres away. #TeamAkufen

so tempted to submit a ballot with 51 albums, I can't seem to make that last cut

well fuck me. was entering my ballot when i realized the album version of Radiohead's Everything In It's Right Place isn't in the nominations list – just some disco remix.

fwiw I was listening to the Spotify playlist and it's got the wrong version of Neko Case's Magpie to the Morning. That song appears on two different albums, Middle Cyclone (2009) and The Worse Things Get (2013).

i concentrated only on albums today and my first pass was 116 and i kept some off on purpose. i'm going to have to put in like five hours to do this whole thing correctly. don't know if i will have that kind of time and just do a mixed ballot. i already know the tracks list will be harder to do. so yeah, this is impossible.

and might...

amended, pgwp

Thanks imago

Spending time with all these tracks nominees. Boy does ILM love house music

I really wanted to listen at least a bit to everything on the tracks playlist, but I'm like a fifth of the way through and every time I hear a forgotten R&B hit from 2002, nostalgia overtakes it goes on my ballot and makes things much more complicated.

It seems to have disappeared from Spotify (besides an instrumental version), so here is a reminder of this wonderful Solange song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBT-bIwGqW4

I gave Sandcastle Disco a lot of points. Still mystified as to why that wasn't a huge hit.

Not that I'm voting for it, but I'm assuming that whoever nominated Gorillaz - 19-2000 meant the remix version, because frankly

I know! It was on repeat in my house for like two years. Strange also how her sound now (still great) is such a departure from this. xp

The first Wilderness album is fucking immense. I hope I'm not the only one voting for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i3RI-B6Tb4

have just done a brutal first pass on the albums list, and having not clicked on any of these threads previously, I would like to insist before I go further that: tracks ballots should be expanded to 100 or 200, mixes / compilations should be a top ten in addition to albums, and there should be an EPs poll. thank you.

tracks ballot particularly brutal I agree, but at least it is equally brutal on us all

from an even more aggressive first swing through the tracks I am starting with a shortlist of 140, but Dollar Sign by Sticky feat. Stush is not nominated, so I'm afraid ILM as a whole must be deleted and replaced

just became the first person ever to listen to the official youtube upload of Making Love In The Sunshine

Did "Seven Nation Army" really not get nominated? Lol.

I'm talking to myself at night because I forgot

EMERGENCY

NOBODY NOMINATED PURPLE RIBBON ALL STARS "KRYPTONITE (I'M ON IT)"

ABORT POLL

Glenn Jones - Linden Avenue Stomp is included in the tracks playlist on Spotify but I don't see it on the Google list?

It's under Jack Rose

people complaining about albums or tracks not nominated are pathetic. why didn't they nominate those items themselves in the first place?

i don't think ppl are complaining at anyone but themselves, more marvelling at the ever-unfolding absurdity that is trying to come up with these lists

^^ otm.

Friendly reminder to everyone to listen to National Shite Day and vote for it, and if you've already voted without it, resubmit a ballot with it in

people complaining about albums or tracks not nominated are pathetic. why didn't they nominate those items themselves in the first place?

― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Monday, October 7, 2019 4:05 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

you're pathetic ya dumb dumb!!!

i nominated tons of tracks i just forgot that one till just now. the fuck are YOU gonna vote for smart guy?

lol i was gonna do a post of songs that i was somewhat shocked and disheartened to see had not been nominated despite not having had room to nominate them myself

oh well, this is what happens when we're given a short ballot to work with! not necessarily a bad thing but it does lead to some surprise shutouts for some songs that might've been considered consensus-tho-low-enthusiasm shoo-ins

ugh how am i gonna make this deadline

send an unordered or mixed ballot and let your anxieties melt away

If anyone is still making a ballot and hasn't heard this, please check out Theo Bleckmann's (and Ben Monder's) version of "I Remember You". Nice atmospheric guitar sound from Monder and the emulation of CD-skipping glitch (done entirely live, as can be seen in multiple live videos) was really original and effective with the theme of the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RwzOGgVsY

Although I consider unweighted ballots to be fundamentally cowardly I tragically had to bow to time pressure and submit a 1/2 weighted 1/2 unweighted ballot for albums. Managed a fully weighted ballot for tracks though.

having to do some serious horse-trading between singles and albums lists, sorry Missy

voted

it was tough! my ballot is full of pop songs b/c i didn't happen upon my main source for discovering non-mainstream music (ilm) until 09 was nearly through. but i love them dearly and stand by all my choices.

i might have considered putting a particular sufjan stevens track on my ballot but i forgot about it so oh well, there isn't really anything i'd be happy to displace anyhow

for whatever reason i thought the veronicas' "untouched" had not been nominated but i'm pleased to see that's not the case (didn't have room to vote for it anyway)

Down to 109 albums. What a decade.

In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2.

― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:24 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

omar little is an ilx institution and we all have our reasons iirc

― imago, Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:31 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'd be lying to myself for false cool points if i didn't stick to my guns

xp i'll be voting for untouched

That rendition of "I Remember You" is... remarkable!

<3

was looking through my neglected old cdr binder and whoops maybe i need to tinker with my albums ballot some more.

Just realized I forgot to vote for Lady of a Certain Age. Damn it.

just submitted mine. this was hard.

i put in an albums ballot, don't much care about rating tracks on this timescale

Told myself I would listen to a bunch of 00s albums in order to make my ballot, ended up mostly just listening to every destroyer and album and a bunch of lightning bolt and of montreal. I guess should probably vote that way also if I'm being honest.

i voted - imperfect ballot but i wasn't willing to spend hours on it making it perfect and just wanted to get it sent in

So, uh, could we maybe get an extension?

ballots are gonna be wildly compromised and arbitrary no matter what, suck it up and kill yr darlings

Voted. Didn't manage a tracks ballot - too stressful by far.

extension though

i actually made an albums of the '00s list a few years ago, i just need this for the sweet sweet tracks

Does your album list of some years ago still hold up or did you make quite some changes? Just curious

for the most part it holds up. i am removing br*nd n*w but i think that's the only difference beyond some minor ranking adjustments

Yeah :/ I'm still struggling with them but they won't make my cut either.

On dis mammoth task again. I could have sworn someone (ArchCarrier?) nominated Johan's 'Pergola' album, but it's not in the document of nominations.

Ah my bad, checked it now, ArchCarrier nominated a single of that album, not the album itself. Fuck. Will have to leave off my favourite 'this will tip you over the edge if you are suicidal' album now (no really, I love it dearly).

I'm surprised no one has pointed this out as I know there are going to be a rush of people voting for it: for King Creosote's KC Rules OK, there's no - between the artist and the album name.

tbf i'm def voting for at least one chinaski nomination

[invisible ink]Six by Seven?[/invisible ink]

i am nothing if not predictable lol

All power to you - it's fucking fantastic.

The closer you geeeeeeeeeeet *guitaaaars*

*i

look it's been a long day ok

xxp "Tumble and Fall" is such a brilliant opener that I don't think I've even heard the rest of Pergola.

Gah, you totally should.

Will do!

I sent in a slightly shorter mixed ballot today--35 songs instead of 50--and made up my own point system so that everything averaged out to 53 points per song. I'm really annoying that way. If that doesn't work, just adjust as you see fit (or forget the mixed part and give every song 53 points).

The Closer You Get is up there with Mclusky Do Dallas as a pinnacle of guitar music for this decade and about as far from imago widdlywoo music as you could possibly get, do not let his enthusiasm discourage you winkyface

(was gunna vote but my coffee table and the general contents of my eyeline are putting me off, it's all too much and alcohol)

aw, you should vote. you should definitely vote if the closer you get is high in your ballot

everyone still has nearly a week anyway!

A week is a comfortable reassuring measure of time but then again alcohol, oh look Hood Cold House is in new answers, ok that's 3 albums right there, this is doable...

Vote Hood Cold House, then alcohol again, then all is "well" (but vote Hood Cold House)

Actually scanning the nominations list I will do this, midweek maybe wednesday around teatime

The ONLY WORTHWHILE CLEARLAKE ALBUM, fuckit I'll do the albums tonight in a drunkit haze, maybe work on the tracks (the more important aspect obv) in the week

Is there one place with all the album nominations? Because I don't see Blueberry Boat on the pastebin list

wait why is Blueberry Boat not in the pastebin link?

― sleeve, Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:35 PM (one week ago)

xp oh it's under "The Fiery Furnaces" along with Gallowsbird's Bark, carry on

― sleeve, Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:49 PM (one week ago)

Never mind I found it...there is some confusion with the "The" bands.

Had the same reaction and then found it under The Firery...

Haha delete post

Gallowsbird's Bark prolly gunna narrowly miss the cut, Blechberry Spit getting ranked where it belongs

Ok, done albums, if I haven't messed up the process. I put Six By Seven up there but not as high as Hood, is everyone happy?

The ONLY WORTHWHILE CLEARLAKE ALBUM

spoiler: this (Lido) is one of my favourite albums of all time

the other Clearlake albums are tbf good, Lido is lifechanging

Blueberry Boat is by 'The Fiery Furnaces' on the album cover, that's good enough for me. (Also lifechanging)

I'll remember 'Blechberry Spit' during the rollout though :P

I actually think like 3/4 of my ballot is your type of thing, to my eternal shame. Blueberry Boat can fuck right off tho

...into the top 100

fwiw I almost suggested a demerit system where you could take 20, 40, 60, 80 or 100 points away from a track or album of your choice, perhaps entitled the James Murphy Bonus Prize. fortunately thought better of it

Lido came along at just the right time for me, when I had just stopped doing drugs and was out of university with no degree and no job and was fried and sad and not sure what to do with my life, it felt like someone had captured my life and put it on cd, almost in a scary literal way.

Cedars is also very good. 'Almost The Same' might well be their best track.

my one-sentence review of Lido reads This album is a miracle coalescing from the Sussex sea air and capturing what all British indie ever was attempting to capture on their first goddamn try and really i don't have much to add, it is overwhelmingly resonant with the boredom and joy of being young, British and uncertain. I suppose I could add that the songwriting is exceptionally strong, but it's the mood above all that sustains it. i play it every xmas

I was kinda on board for a wee while after, but Lido was kinda sui generis from where I am sat. They gradually degenerated into trad zzzz
er that

Anyway I put FRIGHTENED RABBIT at 2, youse should all check that out, I'm not expecting a great deal of appreciation for it but that was pretty much my life in that period, I didn't get much Sussex sea air I suppose

almost suggested a demerit system where you could take 20, 40, 60, 80 or 100 points away from a track or album of your choice, perhaps entitled the James Murphy Bonus Prize. unfortunately thought better of it

753 points, 18 votes, 1 first place, 3 anti-votes, 2 worst place

^^^is this the future we wish for our descendents

(will check out frightened rabbit!)

I DID IT. Actually managed a weighted ballot for both albums and tracks. Only a small amount of handwringing over the fact that I am, at the end of the day, indie schmindie (although aside from Spoon in the top ten, I think I fall outside the most predictable quadrant of that cliche.)

Frightened Rabbit also very high on my ballot.

I didn't squeeze Hood in (as it were) but very glad lots of other people are voting for it.

I'm voting for the wrong Hood album, sorry

'Outside Closer'? It's great, all Hood is greater than great, but I have to vote for 'Cold House'.

I prefer Cold House myself.

oof, just noticed Rilo Kiley's Under the Blacklight isn't on the Albums list. well, on the bright side that's one less record I have to try and squeeze in.

ditto Kanye's Graduation. getting easier and easier.

I voted, thanks for running this shit LJ. Depending on if my file saved or not I might ask for a resend of my ballot come reveal time.

think seandalai will be the person to ask for that! thank u for ur vote & ur thanks are appreciated

am i reading that correctly, we only have a bit over 48 hours left to vote?

nah until sunday morning

oh wait no saturday morning haha. yes you're right

if there's a huge clamour for an extra day we'll see but would rather this got done

i'll be OK, just need to finish it and having a deadline helps.

i'll be OK

― Bee OK

lol

ditto Kanye's Graduation. getting easier and easier.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:16 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah, i meant to nom that but i figured someone else would. def the ye album i have most personal attachment too, so i would've voted for it. went for college dropout instead.

Same.

Voted

Voted

Voted after much agonising

Quick question: Studio is on the album list as "Studio - West Coast / Yearbook 1 -- these are more or less the same album".

Do we need to past the whole thing for the vote to count or just up to the titles?

looool sorry about that

i'll scan the results for all iterations of the album

did a vote

voted!

immediately registering an apology for leaving off purple haze, i'm so sorry

Voted

Tracks were tough

i voted, unweighted though, it was time-consuming enough just to whittle down two lists to 50.

finishing up my albums list, extension for songs pls

Will ballots with write in votes be rejected outright?

forgot to nominate “sippin on some syrup”

leaving this bookmarked so I send some form of ballot tomorrow

ballots with write-ins not rejected iirc but the write-its can't place (again iirc, not that they're likely to anyway)

👍🏻

i am trying to employ a one-song-per-artist policy but let it be hereby noted that i am TORN between Piece Of Me and Get Naked, and this might come down to a coinflip

these are both ashlee simpson songs?

get naked is obviously better, also I am voting for it so more chance of making it.

I'm playing Pieces of Me for imago now and he loves it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Naked

i said it was decent ffs xp

current huge regret is that Boris - Farewell wasn't nominated, as I'm not such a fan of the rest of Pink but this is above and beyond. tt sharing my regret by the looks of it

it's "piece of me"

"get naked (i got a plan)" is still the greatest song title of all time though

I meant I was playing Ashlee Simpson - imago needs no convincing with Britney, thankfully. My favourite from Blackout is probably Heaven on Earth, but how do you even really choose.

Pink is proving much more accessible and wonderful than I thought Boris actually is

voted!

I wasn't around for the noms, so was sad but not surprised to see my track of the decade wasn't included: "The Greater Times"

still torn on Oops! vs Piece Of Me vs Toxic

Voted.

i went toxic just over piece of me but if i did it today i probably would've gone piece of me instead - i really tried to include both but without the 1 artist 1 song rule it was just impossible

current huge regret is that Boris - Farewell wasn't nominated, as I'm not such a fan of the rest of Pink but this is above and beyond. tt sharing my regret by the looks of it

Had I known someone else would've voted for it, I would've nommed it. Instead, the only entrant from PINK is the track I always skip.

Anyway, rushed a ballot in!

Fuck me! I guess I'm gonna have to cram for this tomorrow night. I already kinda know what the top part of each ballot will look like, so I may not even end up using all 50 places on either one.

got my albums ballot mostly done, and I'm half-way through organizing the tracks

Finally voted after agonizing for two weeks. I'm very excited to see the results, it seems there was at least twice as much music I wanted to vote for as ballot spots.

Voted! Had to do unweighted for LPs as it was impossible to do otherwise.

"One track by each artist" principle was also not workable, Broadcast ended up with 2 or 3 (1 with The Focus Group)

Now to get on with the rest of my life.

I couldn't have come up with a list of tracks even if I wanted to. There are limits.

Can I, uh, resubmit my ballot? I made a catastrophic mistake, ranking-wise.

tracks was easy enough but albums was impossible. had to set myself a one album per artist rule to get it down from 70ish to 50.

Voted. Albums only, that was agony enough. Didn't get around to ranking them either, which is also extremely lame. Great poll imago!1! :)

When is the rollout likely to start - next week or the week after?

I voted. Decided to just go with whatever I was into the most these days, made a top 15 or so and then just randomly took enough other tracks or albums from my initial whittling to fill the unranked part of my ballot. It's not exactly fair, but at least it's arbitrary.

It's still open, right? I can vote through midnight tonight?

I kind of did what Silverfish did. I found myself throwing out several songs I'd previously rated highly. (BoC's Dawn Chorus is fine, but pretty repetitious and the voice samples completely ruin it for me.) I don't know why I used to consider this song a standout of that album, let alone the decade. One thing that made this poll so much fun is that this is probably my least favorite decade of music since the sixties, and it has caused me to take a closer listen to a lot stuff I missed.

Argh, I have 40 albums I definitely want to vote for and like another 40 I probably want to vote for and no time to listen to them all before arbitrarily squeezing them down. And the tracks "shortlist" is still in the hundreds...

Can I submit album and tracks polls separately or will that confuse the system?

(This is fun! Too bad I missed the nominations stage as I won't be able to vote for Cave - "Psychic Psummer" and probably a lot of other stuff I haven't thought of because thinking of it would be a waste of brainpower!)

Would it be bad to clutter this thread with things we would have nominated, or should we save those for after the results?

oh boy the songs list is overwhelming to put together but i'm gonna do my best

i should've nominated mark e's "you" but it's not like i mind voting for "rnb drunkie" instead bc it's also perfect

i feel like creepin' to some old school (funk!)
i feel like dancing the night with you! (funk!)

heh otm i nommed rnb drunkie

i need to vote still, and i will

voted

It surprised me a little how song-oriented my tracks ballot turned out, in sharp contrast to my albums ballot. I guess when I think in terms of tracks that stand out in my mind, it's songs that really register, at least as far as 00-09 goes.

it's quite funny how all the questions you're asking can be answered the same way: "yes, it's fine, but seandalai will say if otherwise"

one complaint i have is that my favorite ashanti song wasn't nominated ("rock wit you (awww baby)")

gonna vote for "only you" instead

Queued up what I feel most likely to vote for. Know my number one but the rest...ballot is going to be a total shitshow lol

gimme the weekend lj

how close are you to having the ballots done?

later this evening, NYC time

it's quite funny how all the questions you're asking can be answered the same way: "yes, it's fine, but seandalai will say if otherwise"

I assume this was also a response to my question. I'll resubmit my ballot shortly, then.

i know chris brown sucks but it still bummed me out that "no air" wasn't nominated

how close are you to having the ballots done?

― imago, Friday, October 11, 2019 12:06 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk songs is still a mess. i could prob have something done but it would be incredibly late tonight

it won't be closed until late morning anyway!

I've barely dipped into this thread, but the Lord has heard your cries, and he will respond.

i could make a list of just r&b, both tracks and albums

The Fish Brothers And Eastend ‎– We All Shout The Millwall Song is missing

Re-voted. Apologies for the hassle, LJ & seandalai.

thanks for this poll already bc it reminded me of what an incredible song lloyd's "get it shawty" is

and Jazmine Sullivan's "Bust Your Windows." God.

and please vote for Ne-Yo's "So Sick" or "Because of You" kthx

so many of these songs are my favorite song of all time. def voting for "because of you"

Submitted a tracks ballot.

"Gimme The Weekend, LJ" is an underrated slow-burn R&B classic

lol

“Knuck If You Buck” is so beautiful it makes me cry

Voted -- 30 albums, 50 tracks

Lj I have 95% sorted out my ballot but left it on my laptop at work, can I still send it to you tomorrow morning?

voted

Lj I have 95% sorted out my ballot but left it on my laptop at work, can I still send it to you tomorrow morning?

― a hoy hoy, Friday, October 11, 2019 8:05 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You can submit it to the ballot page linked at the top of this threaf! I'll ask seandalai to wait until late morning...

*thread

Submitted! This was way easier than originally anticipated, and highly nostalgic. Not nearly enough quality tracks nominated, but there were so many already present it was easier to cobble together a list. My top 10 albums could all be #1. Would be cool if I could do a reverse mixed ballot where the top 10 were unweighted (tied for 1st) and the rest were weighted.

i have voted for the meadowlands

sorry if i missed this but how many albums and tracks will be in the rollout, top 100, 77, etc?

the thought is 100

can't we have an extension to sunday morning? i have got the albums ready but the tracks i haven't started yet. in one of your previous posts you said sunday, imago. otherwise i can't do tracks.

voted, with the most hastily assembled ballots of my life. I will be deeply unhappy with them in, five, four, three...

i said sunday mistakenly then corrected myself a few seconds later

hmph

gonna vote for "only you" instead

― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 6:39 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

if this had been the reggaeton mix it would have been high on my ballot.

ALSO, my instinct is to do albums first, then tracks second. anyone with any enormous objections?

Voted!

That was tough, could have easily done another ballot I'd be happy with with an entirely different set of nominations.

I haven't forgotten how Tim F introduced me to the Aeroplane ft. Kathy Diamond remix of "Whispers."

David Guetta ft. Kelly Rowland - When Love Takes Over

can i just say that i love that this was nominated

everyone still has nearly a week anyway!

― imago, Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2019 23:00 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't generally like to nominate tracks because I don't have a good sense of what were actual singles, so I just would pick my favorite songs off the albums I nominate, but putting my tracks list together made me wish I had offered up some nominations because there were definitely some key tracks that should have been on there.

voted, both ballots mixed

The requisite singing along of compiling a ballot is what really takes it out of you.

voted

ALSO, my instinct is to do albums first, then tracks second. anyone with any enormous objections?

― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:16 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I prefer albums* myself so would enjoy that rolling out first so no complaints from me.

* I never did get round to doing the lifetime of ilm metal tracks poll (did the albums one in 2016) so after this polls all done & dusted I might be able to run the heavy Rock,Noise & Metal tracks poll I promised 3 years ago get it over and done with before the EOY polls in January.

I vote tracks first. There's a likelihood of weirder variety, and listening along makes thread engagement fun and immediate, rather than just thinking your memories of an album. This spurs excitement that can carry on into and energise the albums rollout.

well, let's see which top 100 is weirder first!

lol my eyes glazed right over “whispers”.

imago would it be a major hassle for me to submit a modified ballot?

I left the house today and bought clear liquor with a genuine intention to do a tracks ballot, but i opened the doc and fuck you for this oppressively hard task, nah I'm closing this and walking away, also I looked at the albums ballot I submitted the other night and this is bafflingly wrong, I'll stand by it due to some In Vino Veritas bullshit but I'm apologising right now for not even noticing The Meadowlands on the list, what is on there is all in the wrong order, I've picked the wrong albums for the one-album-per-artist self-imposed nonsense, che vergogna. It's all good stuff though, nah fuckit this is my truth. Tracks would have been well different, just cos of different mode of consumption, but I'm not up to it and I'm ultimately responsible for the life choices that led me to this place

I miss people and cats from this period and some of these songs are Proustianly unhelpful

Otm re: missing cats. Hard alcohol is definitely what's missing for finishing this task. Cutting the last ten is an absolute killer.

no major hassle to resubmit!

have messaged seandalai asking about a one-day extension fyi mumble/mainhattan

the ne-yo track i voted for was "miss independent"

I also resubmitted my ballot because I accidentally voted for something twice on the tracks poll

Oh fuck no I ain't resubmitting nuthin, don't make me go back! Just as long as we all recognise that THE MEADOWLANDS by THE WRENS is A COLOSALL WORK OF ART, regardless if any particular fuckwit neglected to mention it. That fact is better shouted from rooftops than collated in polls anyrate

:)

Hey all, I've been out of the loop but now back on it. If you've submitted multiple tracks ballots or multiple albums ballots I'll just assume the last one is right. If I shouldn't be assuming this please post again itt.

thanks imago!

We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed by Los Campesinos! came with two badges, "wab" and "wad". "wad" is still on my jacket cos yeah, I'm still wearing the same jacket, what of it? last time I saw "wab" it was getting on a train to London, who knows what became of it? I hope it is doing well and finally found the family it was looking for. The album is at number... six on my list, apparently. I would say it deserved more, it meant a lot to me, but the five above it are pretty fucken good, so lets just go with that. And that's the dilemma I have with every single album here, and why I amn't even considering any resubmission, too much heavy shit involved with every consideration, is that better that that? But then again, that was playing then, and, and... My former fiancee was born in Kortedala, but I remembered when we heard that Jens song for the first time, and that was from that Jens album... I take this shit seriously, and that's why I have to be drunkit to to do this, and that's why I can't do it at all, and btw I have so much love for all of you and your capacity to do better than me

I think I want to re-order my albums ballot but not tracks so I'll resubmit my albums ballot but not tracks (as i didnt take note of my tracks ballot) is that ok?

I tried that, you have to resubmit both again as far as I can see

maybe not

Voted

that was so hard and i even lost my first version of my albums poll, so i had to redo it. that was some work but glad i'm done.

Voted, didn’t do an album ballot in the end but that was haaard and there was nothing between some of my choices

voted!

Voted

Oh man, this is stressful, I haven't studied at all.

resubmitted again, sorry for the second revision, the tracks list is difficult, I keep rethinking what mattered the most to me that decade, ended up re-ordering my top 10

voted and gleefully discarded any self-imposed rules. forgot a few tracks. may drink and resubmit.

Albums done and submitted, pretty easy.
Tracks is a whole nother thing. Gonna be at this for a while.

Voted! There were a shitload of good songs in the 2000s. Holy mackerel

yep i did albums easy-ish also, tracks is tuff~

Done! I only repeated one artist (Missy) in tracks, no repeats in albums. Viva variety!

Resubmitted my albums (no changes, but I had to fix a typo on the last entry)

typo?

I copied my picks from the nominations list into a Word file, and from there into the voting form, but Word autocorrected one of the hyphens into a dash. So I just fixed that.

Ah, just wanted to make sure.

love the video for Lust for Life, it's the most SF thing ever

also the one for Hellhole Ratrace which should have been nominated

ugh the TRACKS god

where's yung joc it's goin' down

Nobody nominated Monster Hospital, so I had to vote for Help I'm Alive. That's ok.

Voted!

voted aaaaaaagh

gonna need that extra day

Albums have to close.

Xpost

I wish I had a boyfriend
I wish I had a loving man in my life
I wish I had a father
Maybe then I would've turned out right

Now I'm just crazy, and totally mad
Yeah I'm just crazy, and fucked in the head

And maybe if I really try with all of my heart
Then I could make a brand new start
in love with you

love those lyrics and the ones that follow

have messaged seandalai asking about a one-day extension fyi mumble/mainhattan

another song i wish i had nominated: david banner "get like me"

voted.

seandalai will close nominations tonight (saturday night), you all have another day effectively

thank you seandalai!

brb cancelling all appointments for the day for some important Spotify mining

How did ILM managing to get through the nominations process without including either of the first two Fiery Furnaces records or Ciara's The Evolution? Both would have been unthinkable omissions at the time they came out.

I just realised there's only one Jay-Z album nominated as well.

Also can I be churlish and point out that 'The Magical World of the Strands' was relaased in 1998 and definitely doesn't count here?

How did ILM managing to get through the nominations process without including either of the first two Fiery Furnaces records

NOUGHT BUT THE TRUTH: 2000-2009 albums & tracks VOTING (and campaigning) thread DEADLINE OCTOBER 11

xp. thanks so much for the extension, seandalai. i have about 40 tracks now and still to listen to my extract of other people's nominations from f to z. i will be ready tonight, european time.

Foiled by definite article once again.

Voted. Thanks!

Hahaha no one nominated 'Survivor' either.

This'll be a suitably spiritual successor to the original 2000-2004 poll as a result of all the omissions (although there were rather more brutal nomination restrictions with that first poll). Hope there's at least over 60 ballots.

Compelled to send an edited tracks ballot sorry

I ended up voting with my heart on the albums list and heavily tactically on the tracks ballot. Impossible to pick my genuine ten favourite songs from an entire decade so I ended up piling the top 10 with records I both loved and passionately felt should be represented.

lol, Blueberry Boat was the first thing nominated in the entire poll

I haven't listened to The Meadowlands in forever, but man, it aged tremendously well.

Oni Ayhun - OAR004-A
Robyn - Dancing On My Own

― nashwan, Monday, September 23, 2019 5:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

all zapped

― imago, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 7:08 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

these did get a few votes (three so far) - those votes will be zapped (not the whole ballot, just those tracks); in a ranked ballot the tracks below will be moved up one position

When meadowlands places someone will have to explain to me why it’s so beloved

I might even have to listen to it

Didn't quite manage to fill the ballot as I've been attempting to finagle my way into the Après Ski scene and I didn't want to take my chances with a fat ballot I might have to explain on the fly. Nevertheless, I voted.

Voted twice today. One for parliamentary elections, one for ILX.
My nominations were late and I had to let go of some top favorites, so I really can't complain about the selection. But it's rather poor to be honest :P
Big thanks to the organizers for the idea.

Man, making a ballot is hard! I thought everything I liked would be nominated by someone else, but I forgot I'm the only Dane on here, one of few Scandinavs. I think I'm missing, like, ten albums I'd want to put on there, and that makes it all really hard.

How am I supposed to make a ballot without Håkan Hellström or Kaizers Orchestra or Bjørn Svin or Under Byen or Tiger Tunes or...

Voted

done, at least i got my act together to make top 5 mixed ballots. very curious about the overall results. thanks a lot for making this possible imago and seandalai.

Going to shut this down in about half an hour - unless there's someone out there furiously working through the nominations after three weeks of procrastination?

me!!!! i’m not done yet!

i am almost done but i’m about to head into a movie :|

I am theoretically just about to submit, I hope

ok I can leave it go until the morning if imago's ok with that

OK, I've submitted

let me know if yr magic can't parse my ballot, I took the lines from the txt version but trimmed the trailing spaces, hoping that works out the same as the Google sheets version in the end...

oh and thanks very much!

all good!

Blueberry Boat gunna win this isn't it :(

btw I relistened to EP this morning, it was awesome! Didn't relisten to Gallowsbird Bark, but I assume it retains its awesomeness. But fucksake, Blueberry fucken Boat is gunna win this whole fucken thing, isn't it

morning it is! may mumble's nightmares all come true

I am resigned to certain inevitable outcomes. But at least I got some folk to listen to Frightened Rabbit oh wait you never even did that didye? oh well, MCLUSKY DO DALLAS FTW my band in this decade was named BATFiNK! my wee brother played bass and insisted on that notation. My band circa like 2008ish-2016 was called The Ragdoll Physicists, better name but not as good as BATFiNK! point is I forget why this is the point but my current band is called I'VE GOT A KNIFE and yeah I'm drunk but I've got a lot to be drunk about

had completely forgotten about EP when doing all my 00s listening (it seems like its weird status means it gets relatively overlooked compared to the first two fiery furnaces albums?) but im listening to it for the first time now and its by far my favourite fiery furnaces release already. all the things i liked from blueberry boat without the annoying bits

all right i'm fuckin done

ok we're all done!

When's the first roll-out?

Tangmago Towers currently strategising visual presentation...

Some numbers while we wait:

In the TRACKS poll, 100 voters gave points to 1560 tracks by 1185 artists.
In the ALBUMS poll, 111 voters gave points to 1397 albums by 1259 artists.

Hats off to the 100 people who managed to put a ballot together for the tracks poll.

And to the esteemed pollrunners, of course.

Yep fair fucks to ye. Love LBI being straight I there with “when is it?!” cos I was wondering the same.

my phone has lost the power to use the internet, so it'll be 'while I'm at home' basically, which, tomorrow, means 'UK afternoon, and very late evening' - might post 10 either side of the jump. will def try to get it going tomorrow

do we still want remix votes as part of the numbers for songs? i'm a bit torn because remixes are functionally completely different listening experiences...on the other hand, people might have still voted for the originals. what do we think. NOT THAT THIS CHANGES TOO MUCH *taps nose*

Add them together I say, voted for some remixes where I could have just as easily voted for the original (heartbeats, forever more). Seems unfair to punish a track for having another excellent version of itself

i think the only version of “forever more” nominated was the remix. regardless i have no opinion about this, both approaches have their merits

one might argue that when a track is remixed, it is no longer itself. also a 'divorced' approach celebrates remixes as discrete entities, of which several are in the top 100 under their own steam! i've asked seandalai to send the version of the rundown with remixes separated and i'll make a decision based on what you all say here + my gut instinct...

no to combining remixes

Remixes separate imo

why wouldn't we combine remixes? we do during the EOY polls, and it gives a disadvantage to tracks that have a popular remix or more than one remix.

it doesn't sit entirely right with me

fyi the only changes would be cosmetic, except for one unlucky song lol, but do we not love drama here?

plead on, all sides

were that many remixes even in there? keep them separate imo

you cannot perform the same track twice but remixing is not the same as sampling, keeping the title is a choice to maintain the link the original, & it's ilx convention

Would you do the same with covers?

obviously not, but i appreciate there is a difference

anything that gives more votes to mr brightside should be nixed on principle

lol i was just jamming the thin white duke remix. anyway you're obviously wrong

Feel like if there was a rule re remixes vs originals it should have been made before voting. What’s the point of having two options in the nominations?

i never

i did make noises before voting began along the lines of 'this time i don't want to combine them' but nothing was finalised

hmmm!

covers don't usually function in the same way (never heard of a cover version included on a single) so I can't imagine it being an issue, but if there was a case where the cover version did come out immediately and was v much part of the same thing (a la mike flowers pops or frankee f u right back or whatever) and there was real split enthusiasm then sure, bundle them together. has anyone ever voted for an original and a remix? ofc no one thought you had to. splitting them serves no practical purpose other than making them less likely to show up.

i am happy to have another occasion to dunk on mr brightside

destiny is calling me

has anyone ever voted for an original and a remix?

Perhaps not but e.g. I didn't consider voting for "Everything in Its Right Place" bc the nominated track was a remix (that came out 9 years later than the original). The Aphex Twin remix of "Heroes" does work pretty differently from the original track. I can easily think of cover songs that are more faithful. It's not at all obvious to me that imago's original impulse was wrong.

the faithfulness of covers is not the issue. I think once a track is nominated you should be able to vote for whichever version you like and in the rollout the most popular version should be listed with a breakdown of votes for other versions. having the same song showing up twice would be stupid, in practice tho they're just less likely to appear

Covers are the same song but not the same track. Remixes are not necessarily either, although they do use recorded material from the original track.xp

I'm fine either way but I don't see why the rule should be changed at this point.

although I actually like "Mr. Brightside" so maybe we should combine them and give an extra vote to "Everything".

i think trying to carefully preserve the integrity of the ideal object doesn't acknowledge how music functions. all sound is queer. i want to specifically vote for a milli as played through my old desktop pc speakers

in the rollout the most popular version should be listed with a breakdown of votes for other versions.

Arghh I'm away for a congress in Edinburgh and will miss the roll-out then this week -_-

Will catch up and bombard thread afterwards.

have been sent the non-merging version. there are TWO casualties in fact. difficult decision and i have to make it now so tt has the right stats for the images...

If they are different then they are different

^^ truth

If you merge and show the breakdown then people can adjust in their heads if they feel it's an injustice? Harder to do it the other way round.

I think they should be r
counted separately, but the merge and show numbers approach is a good compromise.

OKAY

a decision has been reached, albeit a painful one

We will go by ILX convention and merge numbers

the pros very slightly outweigh the cons

believe me, I wanted to throw this convention in the trash as (having listened to one of the potential casualties) the remix was absolutely nothing like the original, but when it came down to it, the fact I hadn't specified beforehand that remixes would be counted separately was the clincher

we will hopefully begin rollouts tomorrow, with maybe even a few tonight if tt's ready...

This is news to me. I hope you all like low image resolution

just like in the noughties!

(never heard of a cover version included on a single)

I can immediately think of three examples

although I’m opposed to any Lu Contless version of Mr Brightside placing, merging and noting is the least damaging option given the lack of clarity. iirc the Friendly Fires version of Paris wasn’t nominated, so we’ll be spared that particular travesty of merging

i think trying to carefully preserve the integrity of the ideal object doesn't acknowledge how music functions. all sound is queer. i want to specifically vote for a milli as played through my old desktop pc speakers

I probably won't read an article with that title but it is possible to recognize the mutability and subjectivity of sonic experience (and to have taught remixing for a few years) and still think that remixes should be recognized as distinct pieces of work in their own right. No beef with imago's decision, though.

The problem is knowing the names of things. We make our own prisons. In Greggs I say "one of those"

Would anyone object to us doing 10 tonight and 10 tomorrow?

Sounds great! Is it still going to be albums first?

no

I didn't vote in this, just was not in touch enough with the broad spread of music in that decade, but super excited to see the results and learn!

Are We Having Fun Yet? ILM's Top 100 Tracks Of The 00's

top tracks of the '70s?

Still holding out for 20s

This is news to me. I hope you all like low image resolution

― tangenttangent, Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:06 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Please tt don't hurt 'im!

Still holding out for 20s

Bill Griffith was born in 1944

Er, just clicked on the link now and saw that that article was written by an ilxor I respect and one of whose albums I voted for. Sorry about that:(. If it helps, I was feeling annoyed by the argument on here more than anything else.

Also can I be churlish and point out that 'The Magical World of the Strands' was relaased in 1998 and definitely doesn't count here?

coulda ruled out Dead Prez for being first released in early '99 too