burzum

burzum is a little bit of a scary concept to dive into. i mean, i'll happily listen to 'hvis lyset tar oss' most of the way through and dig it, but i kind of get the impression that there's no middleground with this act - you either love it on some obsessive level or you dismiss it totally. to passively like it seems a little bit strange, but i really don't want to explore it on any deep level for fear of absently accepting the horrible ethics.

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hahahaha YES

i hope roxy sees this

Ha!

here is a repost from someone on DFFD

In a longer feature interview with the norwegian newspaper Dagbladet Varg Vikernes says he is working on a new Burzum album. It will be metal he says. He is hoping to release in the beginning of the new year. He has 9 songs finished. He says there are several labels showing interest in releasing it.

Further he says he wants to spend a lot of time on the album so it turns out the way he wants it, and the fans can expect real Burzum.

It is a very long article, and he talks about lots of other things beside music. There are also some quotes from his biography which he plans to get published. The article is in norwegian and not online yet. But it might come online on http://www.db.no after a while. It usually is.

i can see everyone is excited at the thought of a new album..

was mentioned on another thread, think it was the hoos that posted it. There was some excitement. I for one am stoked.

I will slsking some Burzum this weekend; read the Norwegian black metal book this year and still haven't got around to checking out any of the music.

A friend of mine is well into this stuff, but the he also digs The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart and

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itsa nice

dude is a posuer if he makes more metal, a million times he's been like "i am no longer interested in that scene"

actually dude is a poseur anyway but some of that burzum stuff cannot be denied no matter what

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Interview http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/07/04/magasinet/innenriks/kriminalomsorg/kirkebrann/drapsdom/7051663/

Google translation

Too bad that Google translation sucks :-(

(Greven? "Undoes you on your options?" "The police had Snusen on me" ?????)

Haha it's funnier than the original interview probably.

thanks to one of the sidebar translations i have a new username

although it was hard to choose between that and "I will not have big breasts, just a normal B-cup. Therefore enlarge women breasts."

Geir can translate it for us!

He was only 21 years old when he 16 though!

Playing on a small urn with mysterious ash?

http://annonser.dagbladet.no/media/1/18/8770/start_hund_180x500.gif

actually dude is a poseur anyway but some of that burzum stuff cannot be denied no matter what

dude is the sociopathin'est. never seen someone change stories and justifications so much outside of (DA DA DA) the bush administration.

yeah it's sort of a weird sociopathy/narcissistic personality d.o. combo in my opinion. like, his stories change when he thinks he can milk them for more attention. a good sociopath I expect to be a little more charming, this guy only charms people who're grimly determined to be charmed by him.

Do we already know what "the police had Snusen on me" means? :-(

Snusen is the "chewing tobacco" type stuff that you put between your upperlip and gums, don't think it's illegal though...

Illegal in the EU, not in Sweden and Norway, apparently.

I fucking sold Filosofem to a friend during an unload-everything-I-own flurry before I moved. Some of the biggest seller's regret I've had, though the rec is in deserving hands.

Makes sense - see "snuff" (xpost)

Varg Vikernes (a.k.a. Count Grishnackh), the BURZUM mastermind who was convicted of murdering MAYHEM guitarist Oystein Aarseth (a.k.a. Euronymous) in August 1993 and setting fire to three churches, has issued the following update:

"As you might already know, my dear ladies and gentlemen, and others individuals too, I am no friend of the modern so-called black metal culture. It is a tasteless, low-brow parody of Norwegian so-called black metal anno 1991-1992, and if it was up to me, it would meet its dishonourable end as soon as possible. However, rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The 'black metallers' will probably continue to 'get loaded,' 'get high,' and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth. Some of the 'black metallers,' their fans and accomplices will probably even continue to pretend — and actually believe — they have something in common with BURZUM, but let me assure you; they don't! I play what can be described as some sort of metal music, all right, and they do too, but the similarities ends there. Freud wrote books. Tolkien wrote books. The similarities ends there.

"Why more of BURZUM? Well, I am what I am; a musician. Musicians produce music, when they can, and now I can; I am no longer imprisoned by the criminal anti-Norwegian regime in Norway. Will my music be any good? My guess is that if you like BURZUM you like BURZUM. If you don't, you don't. I do try to change all the time, but most of the time I fail, and many appreciate that. Others don't.

"The coming album is called 'Den Hvite Guden' (The White God) and is a musical and lyrical description of the the White God (alias Apollon, Baldr, Belenus, Belus, Bragi, Byelobog, Jarilo, et cetera) and the annual events of his life. I describe the stories of the myths like they could have been before they were myths, by presenting to you bits and pieces of the sorcery and religion of ancient Europe (more elaborately described in my unpublished book 'Trolldom og Religion i Oldtidens Skandinavia' [Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia]). It is not intended for play the 'low-brow metal' style, but instead I imagine a listener willing to sit down, ideally in solitude, and think for a minute, about the White God and our forebears, whether they were Picto-British, Finnish, Gallic, Greek, Roman, Scandinavian, Scytho-Slavic, Daco-Thrakian or whatever, and about their magnificent, intelligent, positive, beautiful, healthy and strong culture. I try to help you create an image of this with the help of your own mind, by offering a few clues and guidelines. The album is political only in the way that it offers an alternative to the depravity offered to us by the intrusive popular culture and the commercial entertainment industry — and by modern so-called black metal, for that sake.

"The début album was intentionally anti-commercial and anti-death metal, the 'Det Som Engang Var' album was experimental, the 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss' album was intentionally monotonous and ritual, the 'Filosofem' album was intentionally different from the others, 'Dauði Baldrs' was what I could do from a prison cell, and 'Hliðskjálf' too, but they were all music that I liked. 'Den Hvite Guden' will be no different in that respect, but I am older now, in fact twice as old as I was when I recorded the début album, and I am therefore different. The new album might differ from the old albums more than some might appreciate, but I hope not. Even if some of you might appreciate the old BURZUM, I must be allowed to evolve, just like everybody else. Maybe you will like the new BURZUM too. I will not do my best to copy and reproduce my old music, just to please somebody. I never did and I never will. If it sounds similar it is because it is made by the same person. If it sounds different it is because it is not the same music and because I have evolved.

"I can add that just like on the other metal albums (with the exception of 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss'), 'Den Hvite Guden' features some very old BURZUM tracks. 'Filosofem' featured the 'Burzum' track, from 1991, and 'Den Hvite Guden' will feature the 'Uruk-Hai' track, from 1988-1989, although the title and the lyrics have been changed to fit the new concept. It will also feature the original 'Dauði Baldrs' metal track, from 1993. In a sense this album too will not be 'new material,' but just a collection of previously unpublished tracks; some new, some old. If some think my composing skills have disappeared altogether, then at least there will be some gems for them too.

"You can expect to see 'The White God' around March-April (anno 2010), when he traditionally returns from the hidden world of shadows."

i liked him better when he was mysterious

he was still a prick then though

At the time his prickishness was disguised by his murdering ways.

"I do try to change all the time . ." You could be trying A BIT FUCKING HARDER, to judge by the first paragraph.

haha Ned

I hope his kid eventually starts some really twee band. Just to rebel against dear old dad.

That made me really fucking depressed for some reason.

Varg successfully trolling all the guys in the Burzum t-shirts

dudes come on

more elaborately described in my unpublished book 'Trolldom og Religion i Oldtidens Skandinavia'

he put it right there in the title

fikk fanget i skandinavia

totally

How many of us busting his chops will still give his new record a listen and buy a ticket to see him live when he does a big US tour?

might listen to record, wouldn't go see live.

in fact, probably listen to record. 99% chance. but not necc buy it.

yeah i wouldn't buy it or see him tbh

I'm curious to hear the album, but I won't be paying for it if I do. Nor will I be seeing him live. I'd not want to align myself with the crazies that might come out of the woodwork, the ones that like him more for his ideals than his music.

I know so many people in Portland that would pay any price to see him. But realistically, there would be protests here and the show would not be allowed to happen. If Boyd Rice can't play in Portland, Burzum really can't.

Oh I'm sure there are a lot of decent, respectable folks curious to see him. I just can't fathom handing someone that spouts his particular brand of hate my money.

I'd rather watch Polanski flicks me

i kind of don't see him doing a world tour. Will definitely listen to any new material.

Vaguely curious about what he might do next, musically. Absolutely will not give him any money for anything.

i find this "omg i would not give this evil man any money" when you've probably spent money today that has gone to a corporation that has shares in an arms company that sells weapons to child soldiers in Africa or whatever but giving money to one lone nazi oddball is beyond the pale somehow.

haha that was a badly written sentence but you get my meaning.

I am curious, from a philosophical standpoint, about the (widely prevalent in my experience) "I'll download it & listen but not support it with my money" position - isn't taking pleasure in something, and participating in it, no less a vote of support than buying it? especially with something underground, where it's not like the money he's going to get from record sales is going to make a huge difference in his life, or like the denial of income from ppl will make any impression on him either way. or on adherents to his ideology. it seems to me that if you're supporting the work with your heart by listening to it, the whole "I won't buy it" is something of a pose.

nb I strike the same pose; there's a ton of NSBM that I will listen to but feel very uncomfortable buying.

Pedro that argument is bullshit and you know it.

J0hn is definitely on the right track and something interesting to think about. Personally I just don't want to financially support the dude.

I have to go pick up my wife now so I don't have time to type out all my rebuttals to you Pedro, but I'll start with this: I don't KNOWINGLY give my money to "evil corporations". Maybe I do, maybe I don't.

Hit 'submit' early there.

With Burzum, I'm knowing that my money is going to someone with pretty abhorrent views.

so nobody's silently contemplating the white gods on this thread?

J0hn: when an artist is operating in a marginal sort of way, every bit of active fan support counts. By "active support", I mean in terms of money given, broad/podcasting, positive words said publicly, shows booked, etc. All of these things help the artist to continue working and to reach heads. Passive support, of the sort where music is downloaded (stolen, as they say) and listened to in private affects no one but the listener - a listener who has, in this case, already been affected. Solitary attention doesn't increase the artist's public profile and it can't open new ears. It's therefore all but meaningless. I'll listen to Burzum in this way, out of morbid curiosity, but I won't pay him money to do what he does. I won't go see him play live.

As for Pedro's argument, fuck that. I don't claim to be morally perfect, but that doesn't mean that I'm a hypocrite when I make moral choices. WTF? Like I have to be without stain in order to take a stand against anything, ever? Fuck that.

Passive support, of the sort where music is downloaded (stolen, as they say) and listened to in private affects no one but the listener

I don't actually agree with this, but then I believe in energy fields and shit like that.

As for Pedro's argument, fuck that. I don't claim to be morally perfect, but that doesn't mean that I'm a hypocrite when I make moral choices. WTF? Like I have to be without stain in order to take a stand against anything, ever? Fuck that.

i just find it a little strange that people choose the Count as the place to draw a line in the sand.

I don't actually agree with this, but then I believe in energy fields and shit like that.

yeah, this - I mean, spiritual support (which you give by taking pleasure in something) may not be quantifiable, but it's a thing, I think.

Dangit, enough with the iguana time.

I kinda thought about the energy fields thing while posting, Jon, though I can't say I believe. Even without quasi-metaphysical agency, it's reasonable to say that nothing has zero effect, so my passive support must have some impact on things. I suppose I'm just okay with that kinda low level quantum uncertainty.

And I draw lots of little lines in the sand, jim. Why not? I mean, who else besides me gets to decide what's right and wrong? I just hate the nihilism of the "well, you're imperfect in this way, so why worry about being imperfect in that way?" argument. Isn't it enough to just be imperfect?

i just find it a little strange that people choose the Count as the place to draw a line in the sand.

Well, yeah. But it has to be drawn somewhere. I also won't give me money to R Kelly or Chris Brown fwiw.

I kind of wish sports arenas would stop playing rock & roll pt. II, but must admit curiosity re: burzum. Is filosofem the record to listen to if you're not planning on listening to any others?
I agree there is an intangible that an artist gains from you listening to them regardless of any material support you deny them, but of the monetizable mindshare/branding kind rather than any spiritual hitpoints.

So there's no black metal fans here who in their heart-of-hearts believe "This is my culture as a arayan warrior god."

besides tom araya you mean?

tom araya's on ILX??

he goes by "ned raggett," thought everybody knew this

isn't taking pleasure in something, and participating in it, no less a vote of support than buying it? it seems to me that if you're supporting the work with your heart by listening to it, the whole "I won't buy it" is something of a pose.

I think that's sort of the essential question though--in situations like this I have to hear what's under discussion to find out if my heart is in it. And if it is then there's a reevaluation due, but in my case at least we're talking downloading & listening as a satisfaction of morbid curiosity.

^ cop out

I just hope my Old Funeral 7" quintuples in value so I can take a monetary stance by profiting directly off Varg's evil.

Y'know, let HIM fund MY evil endeavors. Muhahaha!

i think a person could believe in their heart of hearts "this is my culture as a aryan warrior god" and still think v.v. is a fucking retard, and also not be racist, multi xpost

wait, we seriously talking about how listening to music sends out spiritual waves of reinforcement to the artist? isn't listening to the music and then talking about it on message boards and with friends kind of the real issue?

multi-xposts

bumping google ranking is a kind of spiritual reinforcement

ts: freud vs tolkien

well, yeah, i just thought the mystical forcefield slant was kind of goofy.

xpost

Helping to build the artist's community by evangelizing for the greatness &c is kinda what I had in mind by one's heart being in it, not necessarily "sending Varg good vibes"

for me this is weird because i like burzum. have liked burzum for quite a while despite being fully aware of varg's filosofems. but i was able to compartmentalize it better when he was in jail. like, i dunno, like admiring birth of a nation for its formal qualities or whatever. not that i do that; i've never even seen BoaN, but you get the point... certain kinds of distance (like time or, apparently, imprisonment) make it easier to accept the ostensibly unacceptable aspects of things. kitschy sexism in old movies and tv shows, etc. with varg out of jail and pushing the old bullshit, my "purely musical" interest suddenly becomes a LOT harder to justify. not for any good reason -- i mean, i'm aware of the hypocrisy/dissonance of my former laissez-faire stance -- but so be it.

typing this way cuz it looks better with IBM console emulator stylesheet <3

Fuck it though, I think what you listen to affects your attitudes, subtly or obviously, unless you take concerted efforts to counteract the effects of what you're listening to. And in that sense by listening to and enjoying Varg or Skrewdriver or Five Iron Frenzy or Public Enemy (all have ideologies) is a form of support because you're allowing the attitudes that animate that music to affect you and the way you engage with the world. Maybe this is an unpopular argument in the era of "video games don't cause violence people cause violence" but it seems clear to my mind.

man this pink stylesheet with the penguins makes me type in long paragraphs lol

What about visual art? Does liking Van Gogh condone the cutting off of one's ear?

No, but Van Gogh didn't make paintings about how only the inferior races had two ears

^ possibly the weirdest thing i've ever said

I'm just saying it's an unfair comparison--an explicitly ideological artist whose art is (coyly or not) explicitly ideological is going to have a direct effect on listeners and their attitudes in a way that a less explicitly ideological artist like um Weird Al, say, is not.

someone told me once skrewdriver sounded exactly like limp bizkit which killed any curiosity i had for it.

also -- weird al has an ideology!

I said less explicitly ideological! I was raised a Marxist, I gotta cover my ass

yeah cap on vibes & whatnot all you want, I think that people lending support by listening to (approvingly, mind - burzum is like the one black metal bsnd that's the wedge act for a lot of indie cats to go "now this music is awesome," their stuff reaches beyond "the scene") nazi music legitimizes that music - there are plenty of people who won't play or listen to Wagner on essentially the same grounds, only spelled out a little more rigorously. the idea that the music a fascist makes is fascist music, and you're drinking up some of that fascism when you listen to it, and lending it validity, doesn't seem all that exotic to me. even less strange to my way of thinking, if you're inclined spiritually, is that music conveys something of the spirit of the person who wrote it.

re hoos: i dunno about lesser or greater effect, but in the case of ideological artists, you do have to question/decide how much room you wanna make for that ideology in your life. i'm okay, for example, with the ideological implications of nature trail to hell.

and to Nate: there's a lot of statist art from Communist countries whose aesthetics are inseparable from the ideology. there's fascist architecture, too. I think we're past the idea of a pure art that exists apart from any notions of ideology.

agree that varg makes nazi music. agree that supporting or even listening to burzum legitimizes varg's philosophy. to the extent that a lot of people do this, it makes varg a much more important cultural figure, both within racist circles and without.

also, unfortunately agree with strawman indie cats that his music, at its best, is remarkable (there, i did it: i supported him, added energy, spread the meme). not as remarkable as wagner, who i'll listen to without reservations of any sort, but still pretty damn good.

all of that leaves me feeling more than a little conflicted about the support i've given him (and apparently continue to give him), now that he's out of jail and spreading hate. maybe j0hn's right...

there's a lot of statist art from Communist countries whose aesthetics are inseparable from the ideology. there's fascist architecture, too.

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:14 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, but that only makes the issue more complex. i think a lot of high-modern architecture is fascist even though its stated ideology isn't. and i wouldn't necessarily reject all ostensibly "fascist" state-sponsored art & architecture on the basis of its stated ideology. while art and ideology are inseparable, they're not the same thing.

"at its best, is remarkable"
which album is it that's the best? (Don't worry, you won't turn me into a Burzumonster -- i'll keep my ideology shield up.)

"i'm okay, for example, with the ideological implications of nature trail to hell."

Shit. I've ended every Dj set of the last 60 days with "Nature Trail to Hell". That is top shelf songwriting and execution.

i'd go with filosofem, philip, and then maybe hvis lyset tar oss - but real black metal people seem to prefer the 1st two. filosofem is difficult due to the long ambient keyboard passages, but the good stuff is amazing. contains, "jesus tod", one of my favorite rock songs of any kind, ever. sounds like the munsters attempting to negotiate a mountain road, in the darkness, at 90 mph. keyboards are better integrated on hvis lystet, though.

the deed is done.

never did find the pink penguins, hoos

found penguin :DDD

t/s: buying burzum albums (1 murder, bad politics) vs. paying taxes (tens of thousands of murders, less bad politics)

t/s: Murdering people vs. listening to Burzum.

(Burzum just came up on shuffle!)

This is an interesting discussion - despite my reservations, I actually dowloaded Filosofem earlier in the year as part of my excursions into black metal and was/am considering buying a physical copy because it's such a good record and the distinction being talked about here has weighed on my mind a bit.
Re: Wagner I have to admit that I'd feel less guilty about buying music by someone no longer alive - I realise that you'd still be contributing to their popularity in the general scheme of things, allowing the artist (and by extension whatever baggage comes with them) to 'live on' but I suppose with them not being around to feed off any of it the act feels less harmful. Of course there might well be other people with abhorrent views who might be heartened by it so it's not like the work loses all its ideological associations once its creator passes on.

Am listening to filosofem right now, but how do you guys feel about Laibach or Whitehouse as musical substitutes?

laibach aren't fascists, though. they're an arts collective who use the iconography/idea of fascism to criticize pop culture. and whitehouse are just horrible twits who like saying bad words. plus i don't think either band is anywhere near as musically interesting/satisfying as burzum.

whabbout Death in June?

^^^ that's closer to the point.

Are there a lot of black metal bands to choose from or only a few? Are there black metal bands who have been influenced by burzum - who even bite their styles and rip them off - that don't promote a nazi ideology?

look up the other black metal threads, it's been talked about a lot iirc

Well, but they've been talking about it here all afternoon as far as I can tell. The point being, if you want to listen to bm, you are not wanting for options.

"laibach aren't fascists, though."
That's what i mean -- is it critical to have them be sincere? I can't think of anything more humiliating for race-hate groups than to have the weird als of fascism be considered the vanguard of their genre.

i dunno. do neo-nazis get behind laibach? i'd be surprised, but then again, i often am. if they have a significant neo-nazi following, then their "playful ambiguity" becomes a problem. but this is all make-believe until i hear different.

dunno whether varg's sincerity is at issue. we can't ever really know, right? he presents himself as sincere and is accepted as sincere by others, to the point where he's an important figure in nsbm circles. that's the important part.

I will both buy the album and go see him.

I give him props for being an innovator but I'd rather listen to Marblebog.

Unless I'm after some hot synth saxophone and then I go straight for Daudi Baldrs.

love it

Preorders up at plastichead

http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=BOBV215LP

Tracklist:

Lukans Renkespill
Belus' Død
Glemselens Elv
Kaimadalthas' Nedstigning
Besøk Til Kelio
Alvenes Dans
Alvegavene
Sverddans
Keliohesten
Morgenrøde
Belus' Tilbakekomst

The Return of Burzum
It's been 11 long years and now the world will see the return of Burzum. The highly anticipated new album is entitled "Belus" after the name of the ancient European solar deity of light and innocence. "Belus" is not a religious album or an anti-religious album, nor is it a political one, but an attempt to explore the myths about Belus and unveil the oldest roots of our cultural heritage. The album deals with the death of Belus, his sombre journey through the realm of death and his magnificent return. In essence the album and the story of Belus is meant to be an entertaining story about something that once upon a time played a major role in the forming and shaping of Europe.

"The album has been made according to my heart and spirit, and not to fit into any particular genre or category, or to live up to anyone's obvious expectations". The music can best be compared to the music of some of the old Burzum albums; in particular the ground breaking "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" and the atmospheric brilliances of "Filosofem", only the ambient parts present on these albums has been almost completely left out on "Belus". "There is no special reason for this, other than coincidence and the fact that I have for some time made more and better music on the guitar rather than on the keyboard".

"Inspiration for the album has come from a variety of sources, and I find my inspiration from fairy tales and myths, from classical music, from memories of what once was, from traditional music, from fantasy, from the wind and weather, from deep forests and running water, from the sky and the sunset, from misty mountains and from yellow leaves falling from age old trees".

"My ambition with "Belus" is to create something I - and hopefully others too - can listen to for years and years to come without ever growing tired of it, and at the same time to share with my audience the experience of getting to know Belus, as he might have been perceived by the ancient Europeans". The combination of lyrics and music makes this a fairy tale different from most others, and should appeal to all those who like transcendental music and love to see different things from a different perspective. "If I can make you dream when listening to this album, I believe I have done a good job".

"I am aware of the black metal association with the name Burzum, and I have no real and serious problem with that, but I personally see no reason to place "Belus" in any category. I think "Belus" musically transcends all existing categories, but if I have to choose one - and for the sake of simplicity - I will simply place it in the metal category".

"Belus" will be released worldwide on Byelobog Productions on the 8th March 2010.

I bet most of us download it to check it out but dont wanna buy it to give the prick any money.

I never heard any album in full til a year or 2 ago cuz he is a nazi prick, but there's no denying that those albums were quite something. But its not something i could play much because of his views, even if not referenced in the music and i could never buy.

when I bought a vinyl copy of Filosofem a few years back, I was under the impression that he wasn't getting money from the sales of the older records. am I mixing this up with some other Norwegian black metal court case?

He owes ridiculous amounts of money for those churches he burned, but I'm not sure if any of his income is funneled directly into paying that off.
There was an article in one of the papers last year, where he complained about receiving a bill from Oslo municipality once a month for the amount of 18 million kroner (roughly 3,1 million US dollars), though I believe his full debt is more than twice that.

So uh, yeah, I'm not sure what happens with your shopping money.

Yeah I heard the royalties go to the church as well, no idea if it's true.

why would anyone want to help him pay off his criminal debts?

so that the victims actually get some money? I mean, I received victim's comp once and the guys who beat me up never paid it. I don't think this is the same as "helping" since he is clearly never gonna pay that $$ off by himself.

I agree that this is somewhat of a moral grey area, though, and don't intend on buying any more now that ILM has taught me more about this dude than I knew five years ago. I would like to know more about how the escrow or whatever works.

"there's no denying that those albums were quite something"

I can deny it! (Kind of relieved I wasn't blown away while listening to streaming mp3 of filosofem at work, to be honest)

It's a real pisser when you hear something that sounds good only to find out they're racist fuckwits, even if it's not actually part of the music.
Funnily enough most of the people I know who like Burzum are all left of centre (and not all white either). Their response is if we didn't listen to music because of the bands personal views/actions then they couldnt listen to hip hop or reggae or bowie or wagner ,james brown or rick james or whoever. But I just cant hang with that view. I will not give money to racist pricks.

i don't really feel any guilt for buying or enjoying Filosem, but i thought the story was that he got super into white supremacy and bad ambient music after going to prison?

He was always a supremacist, but his views narrowed and hardened in prison. I have no ethical problem giving money to this racist prick who is unfortunately a musical genius, for his musical output.

i am wearing my "coming soon to a church near you" shirt right now

why IS varg the line in the sand on this?

Better known than Graveland.

is Graveland even as blatant and outspoken about his views as Varg is?

i peed on a church last night and thought of varg

i was gonna say, is it because he's up front about the white power stuff? i don't see how that makes a difference in the "supporting financially" dept.

up-frontness vs. relative concealment i mean

I guess people wd argue that they don't want to knowingly support Bad People even tho they're aware that most days of the week they unknowingly support Bad People. I don't buy that as an argument personally but it makes some sense.

i don't really care about "bad". i just find the whole concept of racial supremacy to be ignorant and backwards. i can't relate to it, and knowing an artist is operating from that ideology taints my experience of enjoying that person's artistic expression.

tbh i am not losing a lot by taking that stance, since i was never a rabid burzum fan to begin with.

gonna buy this twice. once for me, once for the haters.

is filosofem not the best one? i'm willing to give it another shot if he's got a better album, but if this is the pinnacle of what racehate music offers, I might just give up the genre altogether.

it's not racehate music iirc!!

well, it kinda is - I mean, is in only that during the moments when somebody's saying racist crap? imo no, read "vargsmal," dude is what he is

yeah, have read it, have read everything he has ever written, and while i know and understand that he is a staunch racist and that racism is bad, i do not agree that burzum should be described as "racehate music".

anyway, when there are lyrics, most of the time he is talking about 1. nothing or 2. lord of the rings

When is Belus going to leak? Amazon has clips, says release date is March 8. Thought I found it on SLSK but it turned out to be Dimmu Borgir. MAJOR BUMMER.

I would be pretty surprised if they were sending out promos, and that's how stuff leaks. My guess is that you'll hear it on March 8th.

Amazon clips

Well, that's definitely black metal, anyway.

Thank the white god it's going to be amazing

listening to this right now. only on the 2nd track, but sounds like there will be not a synth in sight.

some gloomy singing on epic 12-minute third track

http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/interview04.shtml

Resurgam (Russia): You are in debt to Norwegian government for burning churches. Will the sales return from "Belus" album be used to pay this debt?

Of course not. Thanks for asking though. I really don't want anyone to believe that a single penny of my or anybody else's income from Burzum will be used to pay this debt. The only thing they will ever get from me is the finger, so to speak.
Anthony Bloxham (UK): How do you feel about the world now that America has its first black president?

Well, "mulatto" is more like it. He isn't "black". Anyway, I don't feel anything. The president in the USA is and has always been just a puppet for the true masters of the USA. Whether this puppet is white or black, yellow or brown, Democrat or Republican, or whatever, doesn't matter. The true rulers of the USA are the individuals working in the background, oh and by the way; they certainly all have the same ethnicity...

Andrey Kazakov (Novokuibishevsk, Russia): Any plans to visit Russia some day?

If the Tel Aviv-controlled NATO criminals ever attack Russia I will go, as a volunteer for the Russian Army, but other than that I have no plans to go to Russia. Like I said before; I am not very adventurous.

Dmitriy Komyakov (Chelyabinsk, Russia): Are there in your opinion any effective measures that may be taken against islamization of Europe?

Yes. The most effective measure would of course be to get rid of the "elected" governments in Europe, by voting for so-called right wing extremist parties, but if that fails we can always -- and probably will eventually -- use the Richard Lionheart method. :-)

:-)

lol

haha

if he hadn't actually killed somebody, i'd be excited for the day when he reveals it's all been an elaborate performance art stunt.

What a loon. Not surprisingly, most of the "approved" questions are boring ones, and the odd good query is met with a frustratingly vague response.

The true rulers of the USA are the individuals working in the background, oh and by the way; they certainly all have the same ethnicity...

oh what a minx

wow getting to ask him questions was such a good opportunity

john mayer should interview varg imo

cosmo from invis oranges is interviewing him soon

The true rulers of the USA are the individuals working in the background, oh and by the way; they certainly all have the same ethnicity...

we should all deify and quasi-ironically enjoy this unrepentant anti-semite piece of shit. and then buy his records so he makes money too.

hate to be the voice of reason, but like the fact that ppl are championing this awesome racist just because he has a rad background is so dumb. back in my day we wouldn't sell skrewdriver records in the record store.

not to open a can of worms

Thank the white god it's going to be amazing

― ramadaan muhammad asalaamica rasoul allah supana watallah (jk), Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:40 PM (1 week ago)

O_o

xpost: yeah i am right there with you whiney. and (FULL DISCLOSURE) i have a bunch of the early burzum stuff, and yes, its amazing. but at this point rewarding new material with $$$ is just baffling to me, and feels like some sort of tacit endorsement that i am not ok with.

no offense intended to peeps that draw that line differently, but eh, i cant do it.

i champion his music because his music is awesome

could really give a fuck about the dude himself

i lol @ his antics

its just an unfortunate fact that some shitheads are musical geniuses also

also the fuckin bullshit about "quasi ironically" that plagues all non-metal dudes fond of criticizing actual metal dudes can pretty much f.r.o.

Does the same hold true for say...Ice Cube? From Black Korea to Cave Bitch, man was on a roll.

And don't get all crazy and start throwing out various "isms" and shiiiit, just askin'.

not pointin the fingers at you guys because you are all clearly smart and <3 u all

but i think a lot of the OMG BRUTAL HE KILLED A GUY AND HATES THE BLACKS WOW that goes with vargie-poo is the metal version of indiefuxxors championing Kool Keith and Lil Waybe because they think they're part retard.

Ice Cube said bigoted, insensive, dumb shit on occasion. Varg literally believes in a master race and preaches about it in interviews. Endorsing this guy is like buying an album by the GOD HATES FAGS guy

which forks would put atop his Pazz And Jop ballot in 2011

cosmo from invis oranges is interviewing him soon

Which seemed like an awesome idea at first, but looking at the reader submitted questions, I don't think a) many will be "approved", and b) he'll get many worthwhile answers, if at all.

i champion his music because his music is awesome

could really give a fuck about the dude himself

How I feel, too. Blown away by Burzum, hate the hell out of Varg.

we should all deify and quasi-ironically enjoy this unrepentant anti-semite piece of shit. and then buy his records so he makes money too.

― tza tziki sauce (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 12, 2010 8:34 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hate to be the voice of reason, but like the fact that ppl are championing this awesome racist just because he has a rad background is so dumb. back in my day we wouldn't sell skrewdriver records in the record store.

― tza tziki sauce (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 12, 2010 8:37 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tr00 'nuff, Whiney. still, as Roxy & others have pointed out, his music is truly extraordinary (and not just by BM standards either); his beliefs/ethics (lol)/ideology are obviously reprehensible, and about as dangerous as eating at McDonald's; and giving him money for music is equivalent to keeping a watchful eye on the sad little supremacist scumbag imo. better the devil you know and all that crap--i'll take the music, thanx, and he can disperse his idiotic h8rade clear and loud for all to see just how ignorant the dubmshit really is. (loved Ice Cube too, btw--Death Certificate may well be my fave rap album ever.)

I'll have to hear his new stuff - I haven't heard the myspace shit yet - but it's hard to imagine this dude's stuff standing up against even his imitators, let alone some of the great BM released since his incarceration. his classic stuff still sounds good, but it's pretty primitive compared to some of the great shit released in the last 10 years (though I guess 'primitive' is the point for some).

his "politics" leave a bad taste in my mouth and there's no way I'll be sending any money his way. I'll listen to it, so I at least know what I'm talking about when I talk about him, but there's enough great music out there to pass on this.

I guess full disclosure: I was never a huge fan to begin with (heresy!) maybe I jumped aboard the Burzum train too late in life to appreciate properly.

it's pretty primitive compared to some of the great shit released in the last 10 years (though I guess 'primitive' is the point for some).

primitive is the whole point of black metal imo.

but i think a lot of the OMG BRUTAL HE KILLED A GUY AND HATES THE BLACKS WOW that goes with vargie-poo is the metal version of indiefuxxors championing Kool Keith and Lil Waybe because they think they're part retard.

do you know ppl who actually think this or are you writin' hipster fanfic here?

giving him money for music is equivalent to keeping a watchful eye on the sad little supremacist scumbag imo

This strikes me as an odd strain of logic - are you saying that if no-one bought his albums he would jack in Burzum and channel his beliefs in ways that 'music fans' wouldn't hear about, thus rendering them unchecked and more dangerous? I mean that might be true, as hypotheses go, but I don't think it's how he operates

primitive is the whole point of black metal imo.

unless you're talking strictly production quality, that's a pretty narrow view of black metal in 2010.

do you know ppl who actually think this or are you writin' hipster fanfic here?

otm - links please

I say this as a guy who has never given a dime to burzum on exactly the grounds that whiney's getting all dramatic about btw but being principled about whether you give press/money to a dude is one thing & misrepresenting what people say about the stuff is another

xps

yeah, pretty much. keep the spotlight on him; give 'im enough rope; etc. not that i believe he's truly dangerous/smart/imaginative enough to make anything of "his" semi-retarded ideas either way--he's just a fascinatingly twisted, yet talented, attention whore afaict.

what happened to him thinking only black lads hould play guitars? did trance-hop turn him on his release?

not that i believe he's truly dangerous/smart/imaginative enough to make anything of "his" semi-retarded ideas either way

Yeah this is the thing - I think the extent to which his soapboxing has made the world an actively worse place is probably negligible *but* he has probably inspired more retards as a musician than he ever would have done as a mere, uh, activist

all what ifs tho obviously

When you say the word retards you make the Baby Palin cry.

so..........

I dont think roxy will be disappointed.
One album no fucker will feel guilty about downloading I'm sure.

http://bit.ly/b4G0rt

i have never listened to burzum in my life, and have only been dimly aware of who he is, but i just downloaded ^^^ and i like it.

i dunno if this was covered up thread or w/e but i'd wager that if i went over to my friend's house right now (who i will wager has never even heard of burzum) and played this, he'd think it was dope.

are we despicable y/n

in fact i think i am going to bring this over, just to test this theory out.

if we all come home nazi odinists, then i guess you are all right. but what i think will happen is a bunch of bros will go "duuuuude, heavy"

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2962/posterndx.jpg

Thanks so much unperson!

First half is better than the second, tracks two and three are the best I think. It's good, it sounds like Burzum, pretty much what anyone interested in the record wants it to sound like.

Whoops, I mean tracks three and four.

"Belus' Død" is really reminding me of Thorns, oddly.

downloaded, gonna listen later.
i'm curious about the results of gbx's experiment!

At its best it feels like it's continuing where Filosofem left off, taking it into darker territory.

Thanks so much unperson!

Not my upload; just the first link I found when Googling.

Some of this is great again, damn his nazi ass.

it's a bummer, innit?

yeah, it is fucking excellent. and even tho the majority of his stuff is so simple/formulaic, he's the only bastard that ever gets it even half right. why there oughtta be a law...

I wonder how old the best tracks are?

http://stereogum.com/295222/haunting-the-chapel-no-8/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/

STEREOGUM: What are you listening to at this point?

VARG VIKERNES: The Cure, Depeche Mode, Das Ich (Die Propheten), Goethes Erben, New Order, Tchaikovsky (Swan Lake and The Nutcracker in particular) and other classical music, balalaika, old German and Soviet marches, Lillebjørn Nilsen, Dead Can Dance (Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun). Yeah, that’s pretty much it.

VARG VIKERNES: [...] I might be Nordic, heterosexual and have a Pagan ideology myself, but why would I expect the fans of my music to be just like me?

I am a narrow-minded ultra-conservative anti-religious misanthropic and arrogant bigot, alright, and I have a problem with just about everything and everyone in this world, but I am not demented, and if those who are not like me are able to enjoy my music that is all fine by me. Be a Christian-born black gay feminist converted to Judaism for all I care, or worse; a Muslim. Just stay off my lawn... :-)

Oh, and I may add that I have a problem with most Nordic heterosexuals with a Pagan ideology as well.

reminds me of this guy who used to say, "I'm not prejudiced; I hate everybody equally!"

:-)

This album is really good.

As an aside, I saw a bit of (controversial Oi! band) the 4 Skins show in Blackpool 2 years ago and the singer introduced the song One Law For Them (which is the one with the "rivers of blood" verse) by saying "People say we're prejudiced. I'm not prejudiced, I fucking hate everybody".

Varg on some i don't care if you're black, white, purple ish there

Best Band Varg Vikernes Is Currently Listening to?

According to Plastic Head there is a new Burzum record on it's way.
http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=BYE008CD

Fallen is the 9th studio album from Burzum, and follows the highly critically acclaimed 2010 release Belus which put Burzum straight back at the at the top of the chain as of one of the most innovative and creative metal artists of our time.
Fallen follows Belus in sound and structure, and can also be compared to the music on the groundbreaking DET SOM ENGANG VAR.
Fallen is more dynamic and hard hitting then Belus and has an even bigger sound, but still carries the same trademark melodic melody lines throughout that makes Burzum sound so iconic and unique.

Burzum says of the new album and his style of music:
"Musically FALLEN is like a cross between BELUS and something new, inspired more by the debut album and DET SOM ENGANG VAR than by HVIS LYSET TAR OSS or FILOSOFEM.
The sound is more dynamic – we mastered the album as if it was classical music – and I was more experimental than I was on BELUS in all respects.
Lyric wise it is similar to the debut album, in the way that it is more personal and focuses on existential issues, but the mythological undertone known from BELUS is still there.
I have also included some ambient tracks – a short introduction and a longer conclusion."

I. Fra Verdenstreet
II. Jeg faller
III. Valen
IV. Vanvidd
V. Enhver til Sitt
VI. Budstikken
VII. Til Hel og tilbake igjen

zzzzzzzzzzz

Stoked.

i loved belus so much. if this matches or exceeds it for me i'll drop dead in ecstasy tbh

I'll probably download this for free and enjoy it if it is at least as good as Belus, but no way am I giving dude money.

Stealing stuff from people you don't like: C or D?

as long as you dont pay him 23 million kroner im not sure itd make much difference

Oh come on, this is a bit more complicated case than just "a dude I don't like". Also, with Belus I was sent a promo download, so it wasn't really "stealing".

dude don't sweat it, we're jk, we're proud that you're noble!

and yeah id say it goes deeper than just not liking him, maybe being afraid you might end up partially executive producing a mosque bomb, etc

brrrzum

the answer is C in any case

http://www.plastichead.com/cat_images/medium/BYE008CD.jpg

=

http://allart.biz/photos/image/Bouguereau_Elegy.html

Title translations from Google:

"I. The World Tree
II. I fall
III. Valen
IV. Insanity
V. Any of His
VI. Fiery
VII. To Hel and back"

han valen

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gp2vjlA6bnU/S6HYKsd31yI/AAAAAAAABIY/N46F-pQigAo/s400/starwars_rock_band.jpg

Han Valen, iirc

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gp2vjlA6bnU/S6HYKsd31yI/AAAAAAAABIY/N46F-pQigAo/s400/starwars_rock_band.jpg

Here's, I hope, better translations of the titles (well, the same in some cases)
I. From the world tree
II. I fall
III. Can't tell this one without context. It's either "The Battlefield", or "Numb" (from cold)
IV. Insanity
V. Each to their own
VI. The fiery cross
VII. To Hel and back (Hel isn't the same as hell, of course)

Oooh that naughty Varg!
http://www.fr-online.de/image/view/-/3364424/highRes/1345234/-/maxh/480/maxw/480/-/KZ-Gedenkst%25C3%25A4tte+%2528media_634215%2529.jpg

http://www.fr-online.de/image/view/-/3364424/highRes/1345234/-/maxh/480/maxw/480/-/KZ-Gedenkst%25C3%25A4tte+%2528media_634215%2529.jpg

As received just now:

BURZUM: Official Track Premiere Via Stereogum

Six little words and I wonder if I changed universes.

blecch

i heard the whole thing. it's badass and weird

its leaked???

this one even has tremolo picking!!!

sounds like there's some subliminal messaging going on too w/ him mumbling stuff & all . . . "LISTEN TO PETER BJORN & JOHN!, LISTEN TO PETER BJORN & JOHN!"

now it sounds like he's having one hell of a puke

it leaked the other day there in a shitty bitrate

I got a leak

First impression: Belus v2, but better riffs.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/204/challengers2020surfbeat.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJje-yH-8dA

Great album. I just wish someone I like had made it.

friend rock

First impression: Belus v2, but better riffs.

Also, happy birthday Varg!
http://mehtakyakehta.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/burzum-promo-photo-2010.jpg

Belus was what, mostly written before he went to jail? Maybe this was too?

i figured mostly written while in jail and kept in his brain until release, also for time in jail he did have a guitar

Belus was what, mostly written before he went to jail? Maybe this was too?

If "written before he went to jail" is another way of saying "hasn't had a new idea in 20 years," then yeah.

ding dong you're wrong

http://www.redstaplerchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/oscar-the-grouch.jpg

unperson otmfm

are we gonna go through this every album?

Why shouldn't we? I'm not shouting "RACIST ARSONIST MURDERER" (not right now, anyway)...I'm just saying his music is boring and one-note (or one-chord, if you like).

Isn't the latter kind of the point?

decidedly dingy and drab riffs

lol

EXCLUSIVE: BURZUM LAUNCHES CLOTHING LINE

Apologies for the blatant self-promotion, but I think this is something MS readers will actually be stoked on: I am starting a BURZUM clothing line! It’s been a crazy six months or so of negotiating with Varg’s people, designing the product, coordinating with all our vendors in Asia (did you know they take Chinese New Year off for like two entire weeks?!), but we are only a few months away from launch! The clothing line will be available this spring at Hot Topic, Spencer’s Gifts, and Journeys, but we wanted to give you a sneak preview of some of the most exciting SKUs.

Think of it as somewhat of a re-imagining of the BURZUM brand — a fresh update that makes the brand relevant to the new generation of consumers. With metal more popular than ever, and bands like Suiside Silence and Bring Me The Horizon moving massive quantities of merch, we figured that it was time to for BURZUM to get the recognition they deserve for all the amazing music (and ideas) they’ve produced over the years. We’d like to think that these items breathe new life into the brand, while never losing sight of the brand’s heritage. But enough about us — check out this exclusive sneak preview and let us know what you think!

http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/02/08/exclusive-burzum-launches-clothing-line/

My personal faves:

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/jersey.jpg
Basketball jersey with silver foil print “BURZUM” logo and marijuana leaf. Back has number 69 with “GET LIFTED” across the shoulders. MSRP $69.99

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/yoga-pants.jpg
Sexy yoga pants for lounging around your dorm room, an early morning jog, or a quick trip to the grocery store. MSRP $34.99

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/shark-zombie-final.jpeg
Colorful, cartoon-style illustration of a shark eating a zombie. 100% cotton. MSRP $14.99

is it april already?

Good I need a new Burzum lighter.

The probability of this clothing line being the really true truth is 100% imo.

you think there will be burn your own church replicas with Count Grishnackh action figures?

lol @ the idea varg would endorse a pot leaf design or anything w/ neon colors, also lol @ "they"

Stan has faith in it

lol that anyone could miss the joke in any of this but esp "mesh shorts, ideal for blasting your quads at the gym"

lol that anyone could miss the joke in any of this but esp "mesh shorts, ideal for blasting your quads at the gym"

― dark link (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:01 (24 seconds ago)

is it april already?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:48 (1 hour ago)

why are you quoting that

are you worried i was personally accusing you or something

just making it clear

I know there's no way of proving it, it's just a feeling, but in my heart I truly & sincerely believe that if Varg weren't, y'know, The Great And Terrible Varg, nobody but nobody outside of the deepest kvlt dudes would give half a shit about his stuff any more than they care about dozens of Russian BM bands making the exact same kinda music that Varg makes, year in & year out. Sure ok: he's the originator! Give that man a cigar and ask him to write something interesting.

smh

xp not a doubt in my mind, but I feel like he's far from the only dude one could make this claim about.

I know there's no way of proving it, it's just a feeling, but in my heart I truly & sincerely believe that if Varg weren't, y'know, The Great And Terrible Varg, nobody but nobody outside of the deepest kvlt dudes would give half a shit about his stuff any more than they care about dozens of Russian BM bands making the exact same kinda music that Varg makes, year in & year out. Sure ok: he's the originator! Give that man a cigar and ask him to write something interesting.

Agree 1000%.

I just listened to this and lol

this is bad music

I know there's no way of proving it, it's just a feeling, but in my heart I truly & sincerely believe that if Varg weren't, y'know, The Great And Terrible Varg, nobody but nobody outside of the deepest kvlt dudes would give half a shit about his stuff any more than they care about dozens of Russian BM bands making the exact same kinda music that Varg makes, year in & year out. Sure ok: he's the originator! Give that man a cigar and ask him to write something interesting.

i listen to tons of shit that sounds like burzum (pre-prison, prison, and post-prison eras) and i am not a "deepest kvlt dude" and i still find his shit interesting, this album more than the last one, and the last one i liked, too. i think people just want to be tired of varg so only give the records half a listen or care, also how is "only the ultimate fans of his genre would like him if you stripped away the image bullshit" an insult anyway!

I find this album very interesting. Belus felt like an exercise (albeit a well executed one), but Fallen feels like a real breakthrough, there's a lot of subtlety, the melodies are the strongest of holistic career.

Stupid iPhone autocorrect. "His career", not holistic!

prefer "holistic career" and would ask you to consider it before we go to press

holistic career makes sense kinda

also roxy yes u r deep kvlt, look at u dividing varg's career up into pre-prison, prison, and post-prison eras without any need for explanation, face it friend you are 100% kvlt, that is cool wear it like a badge imo

that's a lotta p's

hi aero

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/shark-zombie-final.jpeg

would purchase this in a fucking heartbeat

too bad its a shop :(

pic of dr3w wearing burned church burzum shirt in front of actual burned church while giving the thumbs up is my favorite wdyll of all time

otm. the only wdyll i have ever had saved to my hard drive

totally--that pic is all time.

i almost revived that thread today!!

!! somebody please post that

I just listened to this and lol

this is bad music

new ilm board description

boom

http://i27.tinypic.com/14113m1.gif

as i told z_s at the time, "so many thanking u"

I know there's no way of proving it, it's just a feeling, but in my heart I truly & sincerely believe that if Varg weren't, y'know, The Great And Terrible Varg, nobody but nobody outside of the deepest kvlt dudes would give half a shit about his stuff any more than they care about dozens of Russian BM bands making the exact same kinda music that Varg makes, year in & year out. Sure ok: he's the originator! Give that man a cigar and ask him to write something interesting.

Is he considered more influential musically than Darkthrone and other first wave BM bands?

First wave is 80s Hellhammer/Celtic Frost/Sodom/Bathory and but I don't think it's in any way controversial to consider Vikernes the major musical innovater of the "big 4" that were shaping the BM revival circa 90/91. In those days Darkthrone was 50% Celtic Frost/50% Bathory (just listen to A Blaze...), Immortal 100% Bathory worship and Mayhem had only just stopped being a Venom/Sodom clone. When the S/T came out nobody else was doing the combination of ambient soundscapes, hypnotic 10+ minute songs with one riff/motif or those typical open sting chords and arpeggios. Burzum was one of the first metal bands to succesfully focus on atmospherics and textures exclusively, and had nothing in common with the "riff salad" songwriting style in contemporary death/thrash/black. I think it's fair to consider Darkthrone, Mayhem and Immortal as reviving and building on the heritage of the first wave BM, and Burzum as changing it into something completely new altogether.

The only band with a comparable musical influence on BM was Mayhem (also those hypnotic 'nordic' riffs coupled with *very* fast playing) but even there Varg played on their debut. It's also no coincidence that Varg was asked to do the lyrics for Transilvanian Hunger, the point where Darkthrone went truly minimalist, and again on their most Burzumesque song, "Quintessence".

Someone has a crush...

yes, i have a crush on Siegbran

hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oisc4CZeAI

The Burzums was the musical project by Charlie "Varg" Vikernes. It began during 1961 in Bergen, California and quickly became prominent within the early Californian surf scene. During 1962 and 1963, The Burzums recorded four albums; however, in 1964 Vikernes was convicted and imprisoned for using cuss words in public to describe guitarist Øystein "Euronymous" Aarseth, and the mild intimidation of the congregations of several milk bars and several churches. While imprisoned, Vikernes recorded two really poor albums in the dark ambient surf style.

Dunkelheit first featured on the Burzums' legendary surf LP Filosofem (literally "Surf's Up" in English) recorded on a low budget in the back of a surf shop in Bergen, California using an Edison Phonograph, the cheapest instruments available to Varg and other awesome gadgets to get that famously warm Trve Kvlt sound of sand, sun and surf.

Charlie? From what I recal, his birth name was Christian, but he got rid of it (for understandable reasons, given his satanic faith...)

wow, geir

dude knows his audience yall

total pro

lol

dark ambient surf style

Someone start a band like this...

^was just about to post this...

Check out Wilburn Burchette's stuff!

had a dream (srsly) a couple years back about dark ambient surf. dream buddy suggested Earth may have gotten to it already

Having just started dipping into black metal earlier this year, the first band that really yanked me to attention was Darkthrone... Several on this board gently suggested to seek out the works of Varg, so I've started. So far all I've picked up is Det Som Engang Var, but I've got Filosofem on the way and I'm really curious about the two keyboard records. Det Som Engang Var is WAY different than I was expecting--there's a real, I don't know how exactly to say it, clarity of expression underlying the whole thing. I guess I was expecting more of that Darkthrone-y wash and rush, but this is pretty stately stuff. ("Key to the Gate" actually reminds me of Slint!) I have to admit, I was somewhat skeptical of the "dude's a scumbag but some of the stuff is undeniably great" line, but I'll be damned if the shit doesn't grab you. Sorry, mom.

http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-burzum-t-shirt-mens-596577

shit, they've taken it away already... how about this? http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-emperor-t-shirt-mens-596587

Mayhem shirts too: http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-mayhem-t-shirt-mens-596600

what a time to be alive

i've been looking for something to wear to my next metal concert and these are CHEEAP. On a scale of 1-10 how false metal would I be for ordering one of these?

i think if you soak it in a bucket of piss for a week you'll be alright

presumably SD ordered a big consignment of these from the same manufacturers that supply Blue Banana/HMV/countless eBay and Amazon shops, so I don't really figure it makes much difference where you buy it from

Stand out in a crowd with the Official Emperor T Shirt, featuring a large Gothic motif to the front and back, with the Pentagram design and Emperor lettering. This Mens T Shirt offers a classic fit with the crew neck and short sleeved design.

KVLT

Colour: True Black

http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-t-shirt-mens-596595

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p600x600/10150813_890648570958041_8549622982995829973_n.jpg?oh=bc4229decbf890ef530355497d84509b&oe=55B7757D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6A-XSRWSx8

He forgot the diesel truck toot at the start of the song. Riffs still sound great though.

Books I can read the titles of:
Eventyr (Fairytales)
Wheelock's Latin.
Race differences in intelligence

Dammit, Varg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJj5S_3jOJ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGo2q-SSOw