i am a sucker for things like this:
https://progrography.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/flatearth.jpg https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/717F9k0l48L._AC_SL1246_.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/FqLcM8g/sideways.jpg https://beatopolis.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/crackdown.jpg
where did it all come from? and why?
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 17:56 (two years ago)
https://i.discogs.com/v5m3CWTC0vdwJJU57sa0FZZbInmonH2selG8dgKq9Y4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:368/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE4NDU3/My0xMTU1NTg3Nzkz/LmpwZWc.jpeg
https://i.discogs.com/gYC6kzrK6_DSScx9eyxAAAExBiopl7rduyk_Q6y25Qk/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:363/w:480/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE4NDU3/My0xMjA4NDA1ODM3/LmpwZWc.jpeg
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 17:59 (two years ago)
as far as where it came from, maybe here?
https://i.discogs.com/XuX8LOckCXo8-eRslxmisYSQ6aJxHoCoc90m39wPOZI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:596/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTkxMTE0/NS0xNTc0NDY2MTU5/LTM0MjAuanBlZw.jpeg
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:00 (two years ago)
the brian eno ambient records are the immediate thing that comes to mind
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:01 (two years ago)
oh yah totally, good call
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:01 (two years ago)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K-OqtXoCq_Q/TWB83NAx8mI/AAAAAAAABgE/MYEf6U-R68s/s1600/Martha.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:03 (two years ago)
oh good calls! always thought that there was a kafka thing going on too maybe?
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:03 (two years ago)
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0566/5105/5295/products/460323_852x851.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zsye5ibdy3Q/TWB7259zmKI/AAAAAAAABf8/JsceWEWmfi4/s1600/nilerodgers.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:04 (two years ago)
there was also a strand of indiana jones-esque explorer nonsense too:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41D9X4AW23L._AC_.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:05 (two years ago)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41ZTTJ0XSXL._AC_.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:06 (two years ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Negativland_-_A_Big_10-8_Place.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:06 (two years ago)
xp ha yes, see also Kid Creole album covers
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:07 (two years ago)
Uh
https://images.recordsale.de/600/600/xtc_nonsuch_1.jpg
― Cirque de Soleil Moon Frye (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:08 (two years ago)
https://www.xyht.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Joy-division-unknown-pleasures-768x768.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:09 (two years ago)
xpost also a map inside XTC's Go2 album
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:10 (two years ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/No_Borders_Here_%28Jane_Siberry_album_-_cover_art%29.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:12 (two years ago)
never knew that about Go2
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Uu4AAOSwfxRjBw61/s-l1600.jpg
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:14 (two years ago)
Unknown Pleasures is an interesting one that i hadn't thought of! discovered it as a young teenager at the same time as i was reading tolkein and initially associated it with the maps in Lord of the Rings. would've made a great prog rock album cover tbh
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:17 (two years ago)
https://brightonmusicblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/words-and-music-comp.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:20 (two years ago)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51oeJSb4HIL._SY580_.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:21 (two years ago)
https://www.saga.works/wpimages/af677283a417.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:22 (two years ago)
https://turnupthatvolume.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/swell2.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:23 (two years ago)
I always mess up images, but a couple of Factory ones: ACR Force - compass logo and OS map on the rear and inner sleeves. Section 25 From the Hip
― I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:24 (two years ago)
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3456179402_10.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:24 (two years ago)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/W/WEBP_402378-T1/images/I/518+sE3p++L.jpg
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:25 (two years ago)
Section 25 From the Hip
oh that's a good shout!
https://cdn.myshoptet.com/usr/www.cd-hudba.cz/user/shop/big/1830115_section-25-from-the-hip--cd-.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:27 (two years ago)
If we're counting globes then Yes- Fragile
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:33 (two years ago)
Unknown Pleasures is, like, a graph of a pulsar's waves iirc, but same aesthetic for sure
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:38 (two years ago)
Fragile disqualified due to lack of 80's release date
well, the question was asked "Where did this come from?" Bands getting yessed out, obviously.
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:42 (two years ago)
Not record art, but R.E.M.'s "Stand" video has all this stuff – globes, compasses (both kinds), map imagery, midcentury-style space and Earth science diagrams, etc.
― Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:45 (two years ago)
(I feel like there was a certain geography-nerd quality to the R.E.M./TMBG/10kManiacs aesthetic – as part of a "civic duty"-type focus on education-oriented topics, etc. – but can't really think of other examples, other than R.E.M. having a song called "Maps and Legends.")
― Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:50 (two years ago)
IPR too
https://i.discogs.com/iLueP8HiTQCb49k5Zuv4lAbHHZ4KlzOiuP_whWpATDo/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwNzUy/NDItMTQzNzA4MzEx/MS0xMzM4LmpwZWc.jpeg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:55 (two years ago)
I'll just fuck up the pic if I try to link, but I was thinking of Force by ACR
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:57 (two years ago)
allow me to fuck up that pic for you:
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0017/6685/0633/products/acrforcevinyl_grande.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:09 (two years ago)
Comsat Angels, "Land". Yes? No?
https://cdn.albumoftheyear.org/album/21139-land.jpg
― Kiss Me, Dudley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:09 (two years ago)
oh yes definitely!
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:11 (two years ago)
geology nerds also acceptable btw:
https://insheepsclothinghifi.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/difjux_front.jpg
for a record from 1973, this is very 80s geography nerd:
https://img.cdandlp.com/2012/08/imgL/115495577.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:14 (two years ago)
There must be a bunch of Ultravox record covers that qualify here.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:23 (two years ago)
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5PDl7K0WRaM/Vzf2dTMy_8I/AAAAAAAAAuc/_r6M7L3WjOk-FnEAFjfl8FmusWPCo98ggCKgB/s1600/brianeno-haroldbudd-laraaji%2B_ambient1234.jpg
― Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:34 (two years ago)
🖼
― the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:47 (two years ago)
(that should have been the Trip to Marineville backcover Pres Keyes posted)
― the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:49 (two years ago)
pretty big deal in 70s 80s conceptual art, so if any of these people were art or art history majors and reading october …
― the late great, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:58 (two years ago)
hal foster called it “the artist as ethnographer” which definitely brings to mind eno circa ambient 1-4 and my life in the bush of ghosts. idk how much that applies to wang chung and factory records but can see it also being relevant to can’s interest in “tribal” drumming, maybe also negativland
― the late great, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:03 (two years ago)
the Metro Music album cover was designed by Peter Saville whose work feels like it could have influenced a lot of this, although I can't think of any other covers by him that specifically feature maps or cartography, but that whole thing of repurposed industrial and functional design, and a cool, cold inhuman aesthetic.
a lot of new wave stuff had this exotic, orientalist vibe, stuff like Japan's Still Life In Mobile Homes or Taking Islands In Africa suggest languid aristocratic colonisers travelling through exotic landscapes, I think that's part of it as well
― soref, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:07 (two years ago)
the orientalist thing was maybe part of the fact that the UK new wave rejected American aesthetics, pretending to American feels very old wave, trying to imagine a rock/pop music that's not about American imagery and landscapes, so you get europhilia and also orientalism
― soref, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:10 (two years ago)
inner sleeve of Dazzle Ships by OMD
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1f15cBZn0dU/WpT8jKfhgNI/AAAAAAAAecI/UVGONuejrxQNRm3d3dCqQcjAFzSbvKMagCEwYBhgL/s1600/OMD_Dazzle%2BShips_Styrous_5016.jpg
― soref, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:16 (two years ago)
This aesthetic also spills over into Peter Greenaway and Terry Gilliam movies, and is probably partly inspired by the general 80s appreciation of grids, which shows up in kitchen tiles and garment fabrics and so on.
― bendy, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:21 (two years ago)
But yeah, in the context of music, it seems very much a reaction to prog and funk fantasy dreamscapes. We are giving you the facts!
― bendy, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:23 (two years ago)
Technically outside the scope since it's from 1978, the back cover of More Songs About Buildings and Food:
https://i.redd.it/k9hdeyhmzrj01.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:26 (two years ago)
Vaughan Oliver's designs are also connected I think, especially the sleeves for the Cocteau Twins, although they're obviously ambiguous in their scale. But they're at least suggestive of landcapes, but as a sensual, almost dreamt thing, a quasi-mystical contrast to the scientific imagery of gridlines, theodolites, measurements and calculation in a lot of the sleeves above.
Thanks for your posts late great, I think you're definitely on to something there. What is October?
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:26 (two years ago)
Yeah, I thought of the Cocteaus' covers. They have this aesthetic, even though none of them are maps/cartography.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:27 (two years ago)
And soref yes, there is that hint of nostalgia for the days of empire in some of this stuff
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:28 (two years ago)
Inside sleeve for Armed Forces by Elvis Costello and the Attractions
https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8672/30209060610_8ffbaf4ee9_z.jpg
― soref, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:29 (two years ago)
maybe also negativland
(back cover of Escape From Noise)
https://i.discogs.com/z6SKgZv9ZJzLs6b0J2IKihmNd4zEeRmgKtm9HA3W9ig/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:599/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTc5MTcz/LTEzMzM4NjE4MjQu/anBlZw.jpeg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:32 (two years ago)
Inner sleeve of Tormato (1978 though) a better fit anyway.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0287/0434/2095/products/1329918-435507456204b771dc2dc6204b771dc2dd16444762736204b771dc2e1.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:34 (two years ago)
https://i.discogs.com/KEbVXN-pKzfZfy29IpuqplQvBQUWjz4VzmXbMG2g3AU/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:544/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTk3MTg0/MzEtMTQ4NTI3NTI3/My0yNjQ0LmpwZWc.jpeg
https://i.discogs.com/2jTDH-e9zw5NSF_hXTxDZ_W72MX6y_x6HfLg0ScIHs4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:553/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTk3MTg0/MzEtMTQ4NTI3NTI4/Mi02MDU5LmpwZWc.jpeg
― soref, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:34 (two years ago)
ooh yes that 1978 Yes sleeve is it, they always adapted well
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:35 (two years ago)
Pink Floyd 1987 tour merch got into this
https://tshirtslayer.com/files-tshirt/styles/shirtview/public/user-1211/PinkFloyd_Tour87_M_01.JPG
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:37 (two years ago)
https://i.discogs.com/999SjD9LvQFh-nU6a5MWWjoV7xmmRP_Pwh0ZDgBY-lo/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:584/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTExNTE2/MzQtMTU5NTIwNjc0/OC0xOTA2LmpwZWc.jpeg
― fetter, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:40 (two years ago)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jJ54vcqlzsc/VOb2TosikcI/AAAAAAAAJFU/qAbxBY4yOJY/s1600/COVER%2BBACK.jpghttps://images.45worlds.com/f/ab/various-artists-fix-planet-3-ab.jpgFix Planet!, an international (so yeah) compilation on German electronic experimentalists Der Plan’s Ata Tak label, released in 1981
― the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:42 (two years ago)
― o shit the sheriff (NickB)
the big art theory journal of the day
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_(journal)
― the late great, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:03 (two years ago)
thanks! pretty sure the likes of peter saville and neville brody wouldve been keeping up with that stuff, so that makes a good deal of sense.
brody did the cabaret voltaire 'crackdown' sleeve in the first post, but he also did this one in 1979 which seems relevant:
https://i.ibb.co/YBm63c9/brody1.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:12 (two years ago)
https://thevinylfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Danzindan%E2%80%8B-%E2%80%8BPojidon-Inoyamaland-vinyl.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:13 (two years ago)
^ that's a Hosono record from 1983, Inoyama Land – Danzindan-Pojidon
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:14 (two years ago)
http://i.discogs.com/QhUSJbc10y5_Ize7DUE6bmpg4_CD5OvzktTH4lh-C4g/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:598/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTExMjY4/NTUtMTE5NDE5Nzc4/Ny5qcGVn.jpeg
― city worker, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:22 (two years ago)
Colin Newman, "A-Z"
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0238/8053/products/COLIN_NEWMAN_A-Z.jpg
― Kiss Me, Dudley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:33 (two years ago)
My favorite album from 1999 was
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61ND3bWEd5L.jpg
― Cirque de Soleil Moon Frye (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:50 (two years ago)
Cool thread!
I want to claim, without even close to enough thought about it, that it has something to do with the popularity of Foucault (particularly *The Order of Things*) and, particularly, Deleuze & Guattari - *Anti-Oedipus* and especially *A Thousand Plateaus*.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 22:17 (two years ago)
More title than cover art, but I feel like "Demolition Plot J-7" belongs in this thread somewhere? https://www.dragcity.com/uploads/products/284/images/258/large_DC2.jpg
― goodoldneon, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 22:25 (two years ago)
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu-O-qYYNvM
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 00:11 (two years ago)
http://i.discogs.com/M2ADlmPP3MELMJyIn8QzYtI2h9-NtVUYHInP47dvO_U/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:596/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEzMzQ4/My0xMzc5MTgzNDAw/LTk3NzQuanBlZw.jpeg
― city worker, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 03:11 (two years ago)
https://www.harmonies.com/releases/cover/14018.jpg
― no lime tangier, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 03:12 (two years ago)