ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2022 - 21st Anniversary Edition

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Was 2022 a good year for albums? The answer, as anyone old enough to be on this board can tell you, is the same as it was for any year since the advent of the 78 rpm record: it was as good a year as the time you put in.

Kurt Vonnegut famously noted that genius is as common as flowers, which is to say it's surely not everywhere, but it's also not that hard to find if you're looking. Well, we love music, to coin a phrase, so we had our ears wide open. Those 186 ears listened to 918 nominated albums, enough to account for two months of waking life if a single spin would do you. Of course, you won't find your favorites with just one play. So we listened again. And again and again, sometimes for a week, sometimes for a year. We listened until the rhythms and noise and strum and thrum and lyrics and flow and bleep and honk and joy and pain were scored indelibly into our memory. Then, with 918 albums well and truly Deep Listened, 93 sets of hands typed off 93 neat little lists of our crème de la crème, each name on the list so incredibly personally loved that we would be prepared to stand by our choices in a court of law.

So was 2022 a good year for albums? If you're seriously asking, we are prepared to offer 685 reasons why it was. And eventually we will! But what an unwieldy discography that would be to lug around, even in the digital era. What say we narrow it instead to 77? That's an auspicious number for the folks around here, one that would include every disc that got at least eight shared votes from our ballot pool. In the atomized 2020's, when everyone's ability to listen to most anything they want immediately and without impediment is unquestioned, that ever-so-slight buzz represents a raving consensus.

To be fair, our small sample size means that we had any number of blind spots. You won't find much contemporary classical or tejano or C-Pop or Norwegian rap in the mix. You could ably break down our more touted nominees into four neat categories:

  • Undeniable pop and rock blockbusters: Beyonce, Rosalía, Kendrick, Taylor, The Smile
  • Genre standouts: Makaya McCraven, Wizkid, Miranda Lambert, Shygirl, Pusha T
  • Critical darlings: Big Thief, Beth Orton, Moor Mother, Björk, Wet Leg
  • Board favorites: Real Lies, The Soft Pink Truth, Fievel is Glauque, Junior Boys, Asake
For ILM stalwarts, that group of potential frontrunners may provide fewer surprises than for the laity. Nevertheless, measure our year-end appreciation, arbitrary and subjective as it is, against almost any other source, from Pitchfork to Kerrang! and I daresay a neutral critic would find us more diverse, more idiosyncratic, more inclusive than any other modern hivemind. That and thirteen bucks will get you two sacks of corn chips in Biden's America. It would also afford you a month's subscription to any streaming service and the right to sample all the nuggets in this gold mine. Then of course, the choice is yours.

This is the Top 77 Albums of 2022 Spotify Playlist:
http://open.spotify.com/playlist/74uEDKSzf9JAsiEuPs7g4Y

This is the Top 77 Albums of 2022 Tidal Playlist:
https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/fe7c7d5a-a866-45fb-879a-e77d27bc624e

This is the Nearly Complete Top 77 Albums of 2022 Nominations Spotify Playlist, with over 550 albums, 8800 songs and 638 hours of music:

http://open.spotify.com/playlist/45AL48bS1jzEgT7xqSZiXq


If anyone wants to clone matching playlists on YouTube / Amazon Music / Tidal / The Mythical Virtuous Corporation, it would absolutely be more than welcome here. Feel free to post those and we’ll edit them into the intro once they’re fully updated.

Your admins for this poll are myself (posting, playlisting), Moka (posting, graphics) and Seandalai (organization and vote tabulation).

Posting sample tracks from winning albums to share choice cuts is recommended but please make sure that, as a courtesy to folks without a high-speed internet connection, you refrain from posting embedded YouTubes so that this thread can load at a manageable speed. YouTubes can (and should!) still be posted as hyperlinks. If you're unsure how that works, click the “Show Formatting Help" button below the Submit Post button and it will explain how to use hyperlinks on ILX.

As in past years, bragging rights are available for whoever accurately names our #78 before the end of the poll.

Also as in past years, the conversation is more than half the fun, so please freely contribute your appreciation, slander and confusion as each album is revealed. For once, we can look forward to the discourse!

While you’re waiting, here’s the prior two decades of yearly album threads to explore:

The ILX Readers Poll 2002 - RECORDS OF THE YEAR
ILx'ers Top Albums of 2003
ILM TOP ALBUMS OF 2004
You could have it so much better.....with the ILM albums of 2005
***What's that coming over the hill? It's the 2006 ILX ALBUMS POLL RESULTS***
**********Hot damn it's THE ILX 2007 POLL RESULTS, part 2**********
TOP 10 NOW: //////////////shawty got poll poll poll poll poll poll poll (part II: 2008 ALBUMS)///////////////
(TOP 5 TODAY, MOFOS!) Yo P&J, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but ILX had the greatest 2009 poll of all time! All time! (2009 ILX Albums Poll Results)
ILM'S TOP 77 ALBUMS of 2010 (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN)
ILM's Top 77 ALBUMS of 2011
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2012
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2013
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2014
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2015
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2016
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2017
ILM’s Top 77 Albums of 2018
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2019
ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2020
ILM’s Top 77 Albums of 2021

Moka will get the ball rolling on Monday morning. Best time of the year everybody! Enjoy!

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2023 06:28 (two years ago)

Great intro, but I do want to point out that Norwegian rap is bad, and you shouldn't listen to it.

Also, great work to all the poll runners. Thank you so much for doing this. Can't wait to see the list. Top 10 for Asake?

Frederik B, Monday, 30 January 2023 07:17 (two years ago)

Great post forks!

Tim F, Monday, 30 January 2023 07:20 (two years ago)

Great stuff I have been waiting anxiously for this for the past two monthd

hrep (H.P), Monday, 30 January 2023 07:25 (two years ago)

Great intro, but I do want to point out that Norwegian rap is bad, and you shouldn't listen to it.

Eh, maybe if you went back to the mainstream 10-20 years ago. There's been a lot of very respected underground or underground-gone-mainstream groups and projects the last decade, some of which I quite like. I don't think Scandinavians are all that comfortable listening to their neighbours' rap acts, though.

abcfsk, Monday, 30 January 2023 07:25 (two years ago)

kinda hoping we have 100 posts about Norwegian rap before Moka starts in the morning; would be a thread very much in character

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2023 07:42 (two years ago)

Seems I threw quite a few points at "board favourites" myself this year, from the above categories.

Thanks for the not inconsiderable preparatory toil, poll-runners!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 30 January 2023 07:44 (two years ago)

it's a bit weird to seemingly spoil a bunch of the placements already (some are obvious sure but not all) but please don't confirm if you actually did

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 07:50 (two years ago)

Are we going albums first this year ?

Nabozo, Monday, 30 January 2023 07:53 (two years ago)

Eh, maybe if you went back to the mainstream 10-20 years ago. There's been a lot of very respected underground or underground-gone-mainstream groups and projects the last decade, some of which I quite like. I don't think Scandinavians are all that comfortable listening to their neighbours' rap acts, though.

― abcfsk, Monday, January 30, 2023 8:25 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'd love for you to try and change my mind in the WorldWide Rap thread. I've heard a bit for work-related reasons, and I mostly just think it's okay trap? I think we can agree it's better than Sweden, though.

I just think the productions in Denmark are better. Like how this backpacker-trap track breaks out in a jersey club beat towards the end.

Frederik B, Monday, 30 January 2023 07:53 (two years ago)

excited

great intro

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 08:41 (two years ago)

think i like the idea of doing albums before tracks

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 08:44 (two years ago)

excited!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 08:47 (two years ago)

i mean 2022 was a genertally horrible year, why not cap it off with some bitter in-fighting, a bunch of wrong opinions and a general sense of alienation?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 08:49 (two years ago)

(just joking, u know i love you)

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 08:51 (two years ago)

A wonderful kickoff there.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 January 2023 09:30 (two years ago)

it's a bit weird to seemingly spoil a bunch of the placements already (some are obvious sure but not all) but please don't confirm if you actually did

― ufo

Yeah, it's a great post aside from that, but unless some of them missed out it's too spoilery for me.

What are people's opinions on Finnish rap?

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 13:31 (two years ago)

My favorite Norwegian rap track is "Nå Om Da'n" by Gatas Parlament. The hook is just "Forgot About Dre" translated into Norwegian and over a sample of Steely Dan's "Home at Last."

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2023 13:44 (two years ago)

So Undeniable Taylor released yet another album ?

Nabozo, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:22 (two years ago)

love the intro, forks (but next time please no y/n spoilers), but it made me a bit nervous as well. I don’t want to get myself into hot legal water, so could I please retract my ballots if it’s not too late? between you and me, I can’t claim to have put them together in anything resembling a judicious manner, I’m afraid. I hang my head in shame.

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:23 (two years ago)

ufo/emily/breastcrawl: no spoilers. those are all artists who, in the course of 2022, had significant and spirited discussion on their respective performer or genre threads in ways that make them "more touted nominees"

undeniable taylor won the royal rumble over the weekend

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:24 (two years ago)

Thank you so much for that brilliant intro, forks!

Poll will begin shortly!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:25 (two years ago)

I voted for none of the artists mentioned in the intro, feel like I'm slowly getting further and further away from ilm hivemind

silverfish, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:28 (two years ago)

hopefully enough of us from without the hivemind imposed some sort of darklife on proceedings at least

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

We’ll start with a tie. I couldn’t for the life of me find a review in english for this album. Only placement in the poll with a review in non-english.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:34 (two years ago)

I'm pretty sure I did

frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:34 (two years ago)

It wouldn't be an ILM EOY without her.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:38 (two years ago)

huh. virtually no talk on the thread either, though I don't suppose that will be the last such case

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:39 (two years ago)

ooooh wouldya just look at those graphics? nice work, moka!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:41 (two years ago)

I think this Javiera Mena album had virtually no promotion. Super hard to find reviews of it online and almost no discussion which is weird considering how well regarded she is critically.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:45 (two years ago)

wow, this almost missed out! didn't vote for it or anything but it's the first of their albums i've genuinely liked

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:47 (two years ago)

the only thing I listened to on The Car was "There'd Better Be a Mirrorball" which is some very odd Bowie pastiche if ever I've heard it

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:48 (two years ago)

I thought the Javiera Mena graphic was Justin Bieber at first

or something, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:51 (two years ago)

Hahah it does look like bieber

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:52 (two years ago)

tidal playlist is here: https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/fe7c7d5a-a866-45fb-879a-e77d27bc624e

silverfish, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:52 (two years ago)

I spent most of 2022 catching up on music from 2021, so I didn't vote in this poll. But I'm looking forward to get up to speed. Javiera Mena's 2010 album is an all-timer for me, so I'm excited to check this one out.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:52 (two years ago)

that's....just the album cover? lol

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

Huh, Arctic Monkeys? Really? Is this a notable departure for them or something?

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

I'm surprised The Car is so low, but then it is one that I consciously decided not to vote for because it wasn't really grabbing my attention and I assumed plenty of others would vote for it anyway

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

xp

it sounds a lot like their last one

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

unless it turns out moka is javiera mena's graphic designer too

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

it sounds like their last one but notably better imo

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

Lol, what was the last one? Was THAT a notable departure for them or something?

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

enjoying the Javiera Mena album, not really tempted to switch over to the arctic monkeys album

silverfish, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

cover looks a Sam Prekop photo

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

Basically what I'm saying is that Arctic Monkeys as I know them are pretty bad, and I'm not sure why you'd expect them to place well in an ilx poll!

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

yeah they're basically austere lounge-pop now, nothing like the first few albums

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

this javiera mena album has a nice kpop bite to it which i'm v much enjoying

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

Great intro!

The previous Javiera Mena album was a disappointment and she kind of fell off my radar after that. I only checked this one out after hearing the single on the playlist and seeing Monotony campaign for it. It's really great and was a late addition to my list. Nice to see her make it.

I thought the Arctic Monkeys album would be much higher. I heard it a few times at work and just thought it sounded like a bunch of Richard Hawley B-sides. I don't think I'll ever get the appeal of that band.

kitchen person, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:56 (two years ago)

6 votes for =76 doesn't fill me with much hope for the majority of my votes tho

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:56 (two years ago)

Oh, more like whatever Alex Turner's side project band was? Something about Shadow Puppets? I wasn't into that either, tbh.

xps

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:57 (two years ago)

Oh no! I didn’t do that album cover! lol as I explained in the voting thread:

For the album porting of the polls I always use the actual album covers with a template for info. This year the idea of using AI for both the album and tracks crossed my mind. But, using AI for the tracks proved to be too much time consuming and I wouldn’t have been able to start this poll today if done that way.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:57 (two years ago)

as i say, i wasn't sure about this direction at first but the songs are much stronger this time, something like 'sculptures of anything goes' was unthinkable even one album ago

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:57 (two years ago)

anyway i'm not extremely invested in defending the arctic monkeys but given ilm leanings it's just surprising to see it this low. that's allllll

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:58 (two years ago)

their last album came in at #30 in 2018

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

6 votes for =76 doesn't fill me with much hope for the majority of my votes tho

― nxd

I'm feeling this. I thought there might be a few surprise entries from my ballot low down but if it takes at least 6 votes to get in then, bleh, probably not.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

I'm guessing there will be a lot of "shockingly low" comments as it was a pretty strong year overall.

Chris L, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

The Arctic Monkeys album is a realization of what attempted on the last album, which I'd dismissed at the time and now I get, thanks to The Car.

I get not wanting to listen to them now.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

Using AI was fun and all and there’s some results in that poll that I like even better than the actual artwork, but next year - if I’m around and invited to the eoy team - I’ll spend more time in the template instead of fooling around with ai lol.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

not big on the monkeys but have checked these records out. shocking it was 4 years between?!

i hadn't heard of Mena and I'm enjoying this

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

154 points is a more important variable than 6 votes, imo. Something with 2 second place votes could stomp it.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:02 (two years ago)

I've been hearing two Arctic Monkeys songs on the radio, one sounds like Spacehog and the other sounds like Supergrass. Maybe 11-year-old me would've liked them.

fleeting art that floats! (geoffreyess), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:03 (two years ago)

Oh wait, I might be mixing up this scoring with other polls'scoring. xp

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:03 (two years ago)

Moka - having played around with AI images a tiny bit myself I can imagine it would take way more time than your normal way of doing things! There's so much tweaking you have to do to get a good result.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

Suede brought it so hard live this year. First time I'd ever seen them.

Chris L, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

Arctic Monkeys, Suede - what year are we living in?? (NB I have no idea if this Suede album is good and I could definitely believe it is.)

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

nu-suede has been amazingly high quality for a reunion group but this was a clear step down from their previous two imo. will give it another go mind

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

#1 vote gives 50 points iirc. So for something to place at this level you need to have over 4 highly placed votes.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

My albums ballot was crazy short this year, but I'm glad I made room for Suede. It got them in!

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:06 (two years ago)

I thought there might be a few surprise entries from my ballot low down but if it takes at least 6 votes to get in then, bleh, probably not.

― emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:00 (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

btw as we're here emil.y it's a shame i only discovered it this late but that 2021 MXLX album is insanely great, would have been high up my ballot (although not as high as his sideproject Won't from the same year)

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:08 (two years ago)

Moka - having played around with AI images a tiny bit myself I can imagine it would take way more time than your normal way of doing things! There's so much tweaking you have to do to get a good result.

― emil.y

Yeah! When I started it seemed like a good idea but trying to get 77 decent images with all those variations is not that fun when you end up with 1,000+ images to choose from. I ended up manually editing a few that looked good but had details I didn’t like.

It’s weird… for some tracks I ended up with several images I loved in the first attempts and for others I had to keep changing styles and prompts dozens of times to get something that looked good and made sense

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

Woah, I did not expect to ever see Suede in one of our end of year polls.

Great album. This whole reunion has been such a triumph for them.

kitchen person, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:14 (two years ago)

lol this was one of things on the nominations list I thought was made up

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:16 (two years ago)

nu-suede has been amazingly high quality for a reunion group but this was a clear step down from their previous two imo. will give it another go mind

― imago,

I strongly disagree. Even the mix doesn't clobber me upside the head.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:18 (two years ago)

just missed my ballot, really enjoyed this record

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:19 (two years ago)

i didn't adore this but i uh know some people who do

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

Arctic Monkeys, Suede - what year are we living in??

if I include Javiera M in this, so far we’ve gone back to 2011, 2001 and 1991. Next up, it’s Simple Minds!

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

Bloodsports and Autofiction are the two nu-Suede albums I feel the most affection for, but they're all high quality.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

Bloodsports and Autofiction are the two nu-Suede albums I feel the most affection for, but they're all high quality.

― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever)

Yeah, these are my two favourites too. The Blue Hour is the only one that hasn't fully clicked yet.

kitchen person, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

Wow- was not expecting to see The Garden place! If nothing else from my ballot places, I will be happy with these results.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

Much as I am a fan of hypergarbage and snotty punk kids, The Garden is just not really for me. It's got too much of the nu-metal and ska punk influence that's floating around now (one of the things that turned me off the Gecs after a while).

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:28 (two years ago)

I don't think I've even heard of the Ravyn Lenae one - any stans want to wax lyrical about it?

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

if I include Javiera M in this, so far we’ve gone back to 2011, 2001 and 1991. Next up, it’s Simple Minds!

Lol. Tears for Fears might actually place though

groovypanda, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

i actually didn't hate the Simple Minds album!

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:32 (two years ago)

Though I don't think I voted for them, The Garden was a major find for me in this year's nominations. Will be keeping an eye on everything they do in the future.

"Freight Yard" is the definite stand out but there's lots of other hits on here, like Squished Face Slick Pig Living in a Smokey City.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

I think I've probably voted for every The Garden album since "Mirror Might Steal Your Charm" in these polls. So this feels good. I also somehow missed the fact that the Arctic Monkeys sound like a totally different band now. This song is sounding pretty good.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:35 (two years ago)

You won't find much contemporary classical or tejano or C-Pop or Norwegian rap in the mix

or american rap!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:35 (two years ago)

I don't think I've even heard of the Ravyn Lenae one - any stans want to wax lyrical about it?

― emil.y, Monday, January 30, 2023 10:29 AM

I was a huge proponent of her track "Sticky" whichever year that dropped, but I only skimmed Hypnos once and intended to go back for a more thorough listen. I guess today's the day.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:36 (two years ago)

Sticky made it into our top 2017 tracks iirc?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:37 (two years ago)

Just checked #66 in 2018

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:38 (two years ago)

I loved Sticky but ultimately couldn't get into Hypnos

Burna placing is a bit of a surprise! Should be an indication of several more afropop albums to come

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:39 (two years ago)

Hypnos is an album I enjoyed when I heard it and kept meaning to go back to all year, but somehow never did. Definitely going to throw it on in the next couple of days.

kitchen person, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:40 (two years ago)

enjoyed the loraine james album, good time to revisit it

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:50 (two years ago)

Think I voted for Venom not the album, but Hypnos is an awesome. Production from Steve Lacy, Kaytranada, Teo Halm (SZA, Rosalia), and Monte Booker (Smino, Vince Staples) is diverse but the overall sound of the record is very Chicago.

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:53 (two years ago)

i actually didn't hate the Simple Minds album!

you’re telling me there actually was one? it was just the first ‘81 (82/83/84) thing that came to mind

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:54 (two years ago)

didn't get round to hearing this one unfortunately, but loraine james has made some brilliant records in the past. gonna listen via her bandcamp:

https://lorainejames.bandcamp.com/album/building-something-beautiful-for-me

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:55 (two years ago)

Love Loraine James, she's very prolific and I haven't kept up with everything, so now's a good time to listen to the new one.

I don't know what I thought Arctic Monkeys sounded like, but it wasn't this...it's a very tasteful palette at least.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:55 (two years ago)

xxp there literally was, AND i heard it too!

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:55 (two years ago)

Ah, Building Something Beautiful For Me is a really lovely listen. It's based on the works of Julius Eastman, so is fairly low-key musically while simultaneously mining deep veins of meaning. Only made it into the non-ordered section of my ballot but glad to see it here.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

well that sold me on giving it a spin.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:00 (two years ago)

i did a small albums ballot, but watching this very intently nonetheless! thank you again to poll runners. graphics look great!

(also yes, the ravyn lenae album is fun and worth listening to if you haven't heard it yet)

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

her whatever the weather album from last year was great too, v different ambient-ish with occasional break-age

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

(Lorraine James)

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

wasn't that enamored with the stromae album, will give it another go tho

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

Looks like a bunch of us are listening to the LJ right now!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:09 (two years ago)

Yes! The Whatever the Weather album is great too! Not much discussion on it on ilm but one of my favorite albums this year.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:09 (two years ago)

I like James' bleepier stuff the most but pretty much everything she does is great, it's all worth checking out.

Stromae is another one I know nothing about - looks like there wasn't even any discussion of the album on the dedicated thread, was there any on a rolling thread somewhere?

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:09 (two years ago)

don't think i saw it anywhere on here - iirc i came across it via a quietus review

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:12 (two years ago)

big Eastman fan here and was unfamiliar with Lorraine James, poll delivers already

sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:13 (two years ago)

a lot i haven't heard! nothing i've voted for yet.

for the ones i have heard

arctic monkeys - the car - just missed my ballot. beautiful album, but not quite as good as tranquility base in my mind. it's a bit drippier, bit more sincere. the string arrangements are uniformly great, but they largely replace the smoky, noirish, roubaix-esque sound that defined its predecessor.

ravyn lenae - hypnos - been a fan of hers for a long time, but the songs on this one were not quite so, ahem, "sticky"

burna boy - love, damini - half of a great album with many beautiful moments. much preferred the asake, fireboy, rema albums this year. "last last" will undoubtedly place in the singles poll, and it deserves to!

stromae - multitude - liked this one a good deal, but the singles ("l'enfer," "sainte") towered over the rest

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:13 (two years ago)

Discourse I saw on the Stromae album was limited to the controversy around its rollout. The singles jumped out whenever they'd come up on playlists, but the album fell a bit flat for me.

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

nice

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

These linked reviews are rather hyperbolic lol

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:31 (two years ago)

Nice! This album impressed the heck out of me.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

I've tried several times with Olsen.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:38 (two years ago)

She'll have a very nice best of record one day

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

Very ILM-y choices, these last two.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:41 (two years ago)

don't know this one at all, sounds intriguing

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:47 (two years ago)

Thought Florist would be higher! Great album, mostly for the feeling and instrumentals. I almost never remember the songs but, like, in a good way. I always want to play it again immediately.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:47 (two years ago)

Adore this album. A serene listen.

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

liked the previous one and emily sprague's solo stuff, haven't heard this though. to bandcamp!

https://florist.bandcamp.com/album/florist

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:52 (two years ago)

ooh Friday is a bandcamp Friday

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:54 (two years ago)

I didn't think Spoon would make it this year, glad it placed.

Bee OK, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:57 (two years ago)

Love the Florist album (and as NickB says, Sprague's solo stuff is superb).

Mostly blanks for me elsewhere. Lots of stuff to catch up on.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:59 (two years ago)

Which Sprague solo album would people recommend? I like the Florist so far—it's very pretty but maybe a touch twee for my tastes—but I'm curious about the ambient stuff as I like the overall sound world a lot

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:00 (two years ago)

For Sprague, I'd go with *Hill, Flower, Fog* or *Water Memory*. Both lovely.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:01 (two years ago)

liking the florist album

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:02 (two years ago)

wow thats a great cover shot

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

ty Chinaski

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:05 (two years ago)

I like the Florist so far—it's very pretty but maybe a touch twee for my tastes—but I'm curious about the ambient stuff as I like the overall sound world a lot

― rob

Yes, I agree with this. Having a listen right now and the soundscapes are great but I'm not so into the songs themselves.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

haven’t had time to really focus on this rollout, but Kabza placing is absolutely wonderful. fantastic album. is it okay if I call it extremely accomplished?

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

curious: who was the number one voter for the Kabza album?

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

Fossora was one of the many albums I wanted to try out last year but completely failed to get round to. Expected it to be a bit higher than this.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

xp pretty sure it was me

Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

KOA has lived with me for months and only grown on me in that time

Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

has alex g ever made one of these before? this is his best album, imo, barely missed my ballot

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:31 (two years ago)

by "one of these" i mean "ilx year-end polls"

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

no surprise here with Bjork. Much of the thread about it is like.... well, good for her! Which is ultimately where I landed with it too. For this year.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:36 (two years ago)

people not saving a copy of their ballots, i love that

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:38 (two years ago)

i liked 'little black boxes' - need to give the album a run

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:43 (two years ago)

Ok! Last one for the day!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:43 (two years ago)

RECAP 77-61

#76: Javiera Mena - Nocturna - 154 points - 6 votes
#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car  - 154 points - 6 votes
#75: Suede - Autofiction - 154 points - 7 votes
#74: The Garden - Horseshit on Route 66 - 162 points - 4 votes
#72: Ravyn Lenae - HYPNOS - 162 points - 6 votes
#72: Burna Boy - Love, Damini - 162 points - 6 votes
#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me - 166 points - 7 votes
#70: Stromae - Multitude - 176 points - 5 votes
#69: Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa - 177 points - 6 votes
#68: Angel Olsen - Big Time - 183 points - 6 votes
#67: Florist - Florist - 189 points - 7 votes
#66: Little Simz - NO THANK YOU - 190 points - 6 votes
#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1 - 196 points - 5 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#63: Björk - Fossora - 196 points - 10 votes
#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals - “” - 196 points - 10 votes
#62: Lambchop - The Bible - 197 points - 8 votes
#61: D. Tiffany & Roza Terenzi - Edge of Innocence - 198 points - 7 votes

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:43 (two years ago)

I need to spend some more time with Edge of Innocence. So far I haven't gotten into it as much as some of the other stuff they've put out over the last couple years, but I'm a big fan of these two, so I'm excited to see them show up here.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:46 (two years ago)

Alex G sounds nice so far, wasn't familiar (I think I avoided it because I was thinking of a rapper who used that name?).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:47 (two years ago)

It's actually Sacha Baron Cohen

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:50 (two years ago)

Alex G is way too low

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

lmao Keyes

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

i tried hard with the new bjork but it's the first album of hers i just can't get into.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

listening to 'edge of innocence' now. first track was fine but "gravity bongo" is brilliant (and brilliantly titled lol)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:06 (two years ago)

Given up on anything I like or think is good placing, should have not voted as protest as I stated I would last January. Spoon? fucking Spoon?

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:11 (two years ago)

I suspect at least two of my picks will place in this poll - would be shocked if they didn’t

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

Interesting first day. Florist is the only one I voted for but I like the Suede, Alex G, Loraine James and Kabza de Small albums. And Spoon was one of my favorite live acts of the year even if I never actually got around to the album.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

(Actually liked the other Loraine James album even more — won't be surprised if it shows up, tho I didn't vote for that one either.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

xp to table: if Anna Butterss doesn't place I will be mad (partially at myself for not #1-ing it). There was a decent amount of jazz on last year's list, though it may have been a stronger year

what is Edge of Innocence? genre-wise or more specific if anyone feels like it

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:19 (two years ago)

Loraine James is an artist I listen to at poll time each years when she places (here or elsewhere), enjoy, and then forget to keep up with. Gotta not make the same mistake again.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:19 (two years ago)

this is a very dull selection, especially for the bottom chunk of the albums poll, which usually has the best chance of containing some curveballs, but otoh lol at not voting as protest in an ilm music poll

na (NA), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:21 (two years ago)

This is probably going to follow the usual pattern of these polls where a few of my votes place on the first day and then nothing after that, as the poll converges more towards hive-mindy stuff. The Angel Olsen just clicked immediately with me, whereas I'd never really paid much attention to her before. Guess I'll have to go back and check out those earlier albums. I love how the glossy country-rock stuff just blends seamlessly into the more dirge-folky stuff. If there's any touchpoint I would name, I guess it would be Gene Clark's sui generis No Other.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

what is Edge of Innocence? genre-wise or more specific if anyone feels like it

― rob, Monday, January 30, 2023 1:19 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

was gonna try to explain but i think their bandcamp description is worth reading in full haha: https://itsdelicaterecords.bandcamp.com/album/edge-of-innocence

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

i would've liked the angel olsen album a lot more if it reminded me of no other

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

currently listening to Florist and resisting the urge to say more than this

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:26 (two years ago)

Getting "Do you know anything about techno?" vibes from that description

jmm, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:27 (two years ago)

imago, say more, this has been too genteel

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:28 (two years ago)

i didn't know songwriting was this easy

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:30 (two years ago)

Spoon are going to be one of the few rock albums that will even place, still can't satisfy everyone. This might be the last Spoon album they release and might even be the last concert I will see. I went back and forth on their album all year but in the end made my list.

Bee OK, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:32 (two years ago)

listening to 'edge of innocence' now. first track was fine but "gravity bongo" is brilliant (and brilliantly titled lol)

didnt vote for the album but yeah that track is a ripper. techno with a deep focus on groove

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:34 (two years ago)

yeah the album is groovy and playful, and not in the cringe-y way that the bandcamp copy might suggest

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:35 (two years ago)

Spoon are going to be one of the few rock albums that will even place

lol wut didn't a bunch more place today?

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:36 (two years ago)

Imho this year most of the interesting sounding albums are in the middle portion of the poll, whereas in previous years it was usually in the lower end. I think Tuesday and Wednesday will be the days that might be the more satisfying for the more “esoteric” picks.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

yeah "first day, best day" hasn't been true for a couple of years iirc

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

okay well i will abort my under-construction Stromae post and trust in Moka

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:38 (two years ago)

My prediction is that… mmm Wednesday will be your day imago

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:39 (two years ago)

Spoon has never clicked with me, like some other old-guard indie bands that ILM has a soft spot for (e.g. Lambchop, Low, Purple Mountains).

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:40 (two years ago)

love spoon but this album didn't really do many of the things that i love about them. i preferred the left turn of 'hot thoughts,' this one was a little too black keys-y

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:42 (two years ago)

#76: Javiera Mena - Nocturna: Hadn't given her a thought in years, but if it's k-poppy, I'll check it out!
#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car: The first single was okay, but they just spend all their talents finding new ways to sound old fashioned.
#75: Suede - Autofiction: First single was okay, but I don't really care. ILX really loves nineties bands more and more each year.
#74: The Garden - Horseshit on Route 66: Don't know at all, but if it's hyper garbage, I'll check it out!
#72: Ravyn Lenae - HYPNOS: Couldn't get into it at all.
#72: Burna Boy - Love, Damini: My least favourite of the big Nigerian albums from 2023, but some absolute classic tracks.
#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me: Preferred 'Whatever the Weather'. And I thought both of them was a stepdown after Reflection. But she is one of the best new electronic artists in a while, and I look forward to following her career.
#70: Stromae - Multitude: My #5. A living legend returned with his best album yet. Yes, the singles tower over the rest, but they were mind-blowing! Sante especially, the rhythm was incredibly made. So great to have him back.
#69: Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa: Heard it quite a lot last winter, and it's good, but I never pondered voting for it.
#68: Angel Olsen - Big Time: Don't get in general, and this album was just boring.
#67: Florist - Florist: It's very abstract, and I only heard it a couple times, but I'm hoping to get into it. It's quite beautiful.
#66: Little Simz - NO THANK YOU: I thought it was better than 'Sometimes I Might Be Introvert', fewer incredibly bad skits for one. But I don't care about this type of British hiphop. Don't care about Stormzy either. And Sault made way too many albums this year.
#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1. Oh, wow. Glad to see this here, even though it kinda broke me. Way too long, I don't have time for it anymore.
#63: Björk - Fossora: Liked the gabber influences, but the release led me to go back through Björks discography, and then I just heard Homogenic and Vespertine on repeat instead...
#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals: My #12. So indie, but it kinda bowled me over. The electronic disruption is very well done. I love how people like Alex G brings back the feel of old lo-fi indie, but with modern computer-noise instead. It sounds like a new take on old genres. And the songwriting was extremely good.
#62: Lambchop - The Bible: My #16. Honestly kind of the same as Alex G. I love everything Lambchop has done since FLOTUS, it hasn't been as fantastic as Low, but a bit of the same feel.
#61: D. Tiffany & Roza Terenzi - Edge of Innocence: Heard a few tracks for work, liked it. I will check the rest of it out.

Re: Finnish hiphop: Bomfunk MCs are forever! But Finnish isn't a very good language to rap in. Not like Danish.

Frederik B, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:44 (two years ago)

I do like the Loraine James record, just didn’t like it enough to put it on my list, but I’ve also been following Eastman’s revival for a while and sort of burnt out on him for a minute

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:44 (two years ago)

Spoon are perfectly fine imho. At this point they’re so consistent they are hard for me to get too excited about, but if this is truly their last album I’ll miss them when they’re gone.

Most of their albums sound better to me when listening to them years after their release. I don’t think they have a single album that I’d rate below… idk 7.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:46 (two years ago)

I'm not going to be around very much Weds-Fri this week, so I hope tomorrow will give some interesting results.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:48 (two years ago)

Damn "Edge of Innocence" rips. How'd I miss this?

it was better than 'Sometimes I Might Be Introvert'

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:49 (two years ago)

that loudandquiet review pullquote that implies that the ravyn lenae album is on a par with the velvet rope is probably the biggest crime in this entire thread so far

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:50 (two years ago)

Spoon were dull when I was a senior in high school, nothing has persuaded me otherwise since, and that was 20 years ago

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:53 (two years ago)

if Anna Butterss doesn't place I will be mad (partially at myself for not #1-ing it).

I heard her album too late to vote for it (i.e. yesterday, after “Doo Wop” blew me away earlier when I came across it in Tom Ewing’s Peoples Pop EOY Poll), but I’m hoping very much for it to place too.

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:55 (two years ago)

Would like Butterss and the Jeff Parker IVtet to place

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:56 (two years ago)

imo the two previous Florist albums - If Blue Could Be Happiness and Emily Alone - are better than this year's. i would suggest starting with those, but not if you're going to report back here with some nonsense about how they're not good.

alpine static, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:56 (two years ago)

#76: Javiera Mena - Nocturna: another good javiera mena album, i appreciate her taking on a more balearic sound
#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car: definitely the best arctic monkeys album, also expected it to be much higher considering the last one did better and this one's a big step up. didn't make my ballot but the single did
#75: Suede - Autofiction: if i've never gotten into suede at all will this one change my mind?
#74: The Garden - Horseshit on Route 66: lol what is this
#72: Ravyn Lenae - HYPNOS: voted for this, very solid, surprised it isn't higher since this sort of janet-y r&b is usually beloved here (no it isn't on par with the velvet rope but it's pretty good)
#72: Burna Boy - Love, Damini: voted for this, a return to form after twice as tall. maybe a little long but generally underrated
#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me: had completely missed that this exists but listening to some of it now it's lovely and i'll have to come back to it
#70: Stromae - Multitude: i always want to like stromae more than i do in practice, he has a tendency to end up feeling overwrought
#69: Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa: another solid spoon album but nothing to be remotely excited about here
#68: Angel Olsen - Big Time: moving to a more country-tinged sound worked well for her but it didn't end up doing much to stand out in a very strong year
#67: Florist - Florist: pleasant-and-nothing-more ambientish indie folk somewhere between the microphones and big thief, a good album to fall asleep to
#66: Little Simz - NO THANK YOU: thankfully free of the conceptual baggage of the last album and the production sounds impeccable of course but it doesn't move me
#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1: i find amapiano albums impossible to truly get into these days when they're all two hours long and the shaker loops become indistinguishable but i'll have to give it a go
#63: Björk - Fossora: still kinda tuneless in the way that a lot of late period bjork is but all the discordance is used to better effect than usual and there's a few nice moments like "ancestress"
#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals: best album i've heard from him, endearingly weird ramshackle production style that blends some sort hyperpop influence into his 90s indie sound. probably would made my ballot if i'd heard it earlier and spent more time with it
#62: Lambchop - The Bible: voted for this, very fond of their ongoing weirdo-sophisti-pop phase. "little black boxes" and "police dog blues" are especially great
#61: D. Tiffany & Roza Terenzi - Edge of Innocence: i only vaguely know the name d. tiffany. listening to some of it now and it's the sort of techno that doesn't really do much to hold my attention? i'm sure it makes more sense in a club context but not for me

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:59 (two years ago)

i mean yeah it was sounding fine really, such comparisons will always elicit harsh judgement. reviewers should be more careful!

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:07 (two years ago)

^shamefacedly crawling back hoping to curry ufo's favour obv. 'oh you voted for it! my bad!'

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:08 (two years ago)

Alex G is kinda like if Ariel Pink had been socialized properly (I'm a fan).

Chris L, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:12 (two years ago)

suede obv one of my favourite rock groups of all time but no, if you didn't like Suede or DMS, or the 3 comeback albums, this doesn't have a great chance

will give the others a spin in the morning

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:13 (two years ago)

i didn't vote for florist, it's just one of many decent enough albums that didn't make my ballot

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

enjoyed both the Ravyn Lenae and the Loraine James after a quick whizz through them. not feeling overly enthusiatic about listening to a lot of the rest, might put the playlist on shuffle and see if anything grabs me

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

Alex G is kinda like if Ariel Pink had been socialized properly (I'm a fan).

lol the key difference is alex g has gotten weirder as he's gotten away from his lo-fi roots while pink was the opposite

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:21 (two years ago)

I should be posting here but I died of boredom halfway through Florist's second track. It made me want to listen to Big Thief for energy, imagine that.

Nabozo, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:23 (two years ago)

Yes edge of innocence! Wild and groovy! D
Tiffany and Roza T completely own

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:26 (two years ago)

what is Edge of Innocence? genre-wise or more specific if anyone feels like it

― rob, Monday, January 30, 2023 1:19 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink


the melbourne → vancouver connection

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:29 (two years ago)

Anyone who digs that HAS to check out their DJ Trance remixes from a few years ago:

https://www.discogs.com/release/13144981-DJ-Trance-And-Darwin-Chamber-Indians-And-Aliens

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:31 (two years ago)

#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1: i find amapiano albums impossible to truly get into these days when they're all two hours long and the shaker loops become indistinguishable but i'll have to give it a go

very understandable if you’re not a big piano head (and even if you are! I think the current record holder is Kelvin Momo’s new album, which clocks in at 3h29 mins for 26 tracks - from which I distilled a 12-track playlist/highlight reel that I listen to instead - but since it has been South Africa’s top album since it came out early December, there’s no incentive there to cut down on the practice whatsoever).
still, there is so much great music on these albums. this genre is, for better or for worse, a vast ocean to (ideally) blissfully drown in - to paraphrase my own thread title.

I think my advice with the Kabza (which, as I said upthread, is much more accomplished than most, also in this respect) is to start by acquainting yourself with the six tracks he dropped simultaneously ahead of the album, and take it from there.

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:44 (two years ago)

Edge of Innocence first of mine to place, was my number 1 at one point until I decided to vote a tiny bit tactically. I can't get enough of the 90s indebted proggy idm stuff around at the moment

or something, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:46 (two years ago)

also on the D. Tiffany and Roza Terenzi tip, I enjoyed this Tapestry of Sound EP from a couple years ago

https://stepballchain.bandcamp.com/album/tapestry-of-sound

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:51 (two years ago)

#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals: best album i've heard from him, endearingly weird ramshackle production style that blends some sort hyperpop influence into his 90s indie sound. probably would made my ballot if i'd heard it earlier and spent more time with it

― ufo, Monday, January 30, 2023 12:59 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Totally agree with this, and the sound is no doubt much of the appeal, but also think the focus on production undersells how consistent this guy's songwriting has become. "Runner" and "Mission" are superb tunes.

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:02 (two years ago)

all i remember from the alex g album is the single that sounds exactly like "runaway train" by soul asylum

na (NA), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:16 (two years ago)

that would be 'runner' lol. I too couldn't shake thinking about 'runaway train' when listening to it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:18 (two years ago)

ha

Following fan speculation that ‘Runner’ is a play on the 90s alt-rock staple ‘Runaway Train’ by Soul Asylum, Alex swears: “I totally hear it, but that wasn’t intentional… Hopefully they don’t sue me.”

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:21 (two years ago)

great song either way ("runner" not "runaway train")

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

tho i guess maybe "runaway train"? been a while since i've heard

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

runnerway train

na (NA), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:23 (two years ago)

Huh. Assumed the "Runaway Train" callback was absolutely intentional.

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:23 (two years ago)

I understand people being bored by Florist by I assume same people also don't like, e.g., Elliott Smith, Phoebe Bridgers, indie-folk in general. Which is fine! But it's a very good indie-folk album.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:29 (two years ago)

ok so i like "runaway train" more than i remembered. i prefer alex's shaggy dog manner to soul asylum guy's sub-bon jovi yarl

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:31 (two years ago)

"runner" is also half the length, big plus

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:32 (two years ago)

Elliott Smith and Florist are not from the same galaxy, compositionally

imago, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:48 (two years ago)

i get complaints that the florist album is boring - it's very sleepy and often barely there but that ambient tapestry effect is the main appeal

but also think the focus on production undersells how consistent this guy's songwriting has become

he's a solid songwriter but that wasn't really enough to make him stand out before, there's a whole lot of artists making competent enough 90s-ish indie rock. last time i paid attention to him was 2015 or so and he was fine back then but there were only hints of what he's doing now production-wise

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:55 (two years ago)

I keep confusing Florist with Botanist.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:59 (two years ago)

slightly different sounds

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:03 (two years ago)

I mix him up with Dr. Octagonecologyst

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:03 (two years ago)

I couldn't hang with the Florist album ultimately (I tried one of her ambient ones and it also seemed a bit cutesy to me, but honestly on a different day I might like that about it), but I do think "no energy" is missing the point somewhat.

FWIW the "indie folk" album I adored from last year was Naima Bock's, which you might like imago? or at any rate she's interested in composition rather than atmosphere, and I like her voice way more

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:03 (two years ago)

if you want florist with more substantial songwriting, then big thief are right there

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:05 (two years ago)

For the life of me I don't understand why ILM doesn't love Little Simz as much as me. Seems right THERE.

kraudive, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:05 (two years ago)

I only heard the Alex G album after polling. I would likely have voted it high.

kraudive, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:06 (two years ago)

I probably should give the Big Thief a second try before it wins the poll and I resent it for that :)

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:07 (two years ago)

Need to spend more time with the Lorraine James album. It's fucking gorge.

kraudive, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:07 (two years ago)

if you want florist with more substantial songwriting, then big thief are right there

Can't speak for the other Florist voters, but unsurprisingly Big Thief were much higher on my ballot.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:07 (two years ago)

Two Hands was Big Thief's "New Jersey" and I will die on that hill

sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:07 (two years ago)

ha if anything the new one is the new jersey

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:10 (two years ago)

i don't think they actually have one, since their new one is their best yet, but whatever

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:10 (two years ago)

too early to really get into the BT slagging so I will refrain

hey Kabza is on Bandcamp!! finally some amapiano I can DL as FLAC files.

sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:12 (two years ago)

For the life of me I don't understand why ILM doesn't love Little Simz as much as me. Seems right THERE.

last two albums did much better here, this one probably suffered from being a surprise end of year release and people seem to feel a little fatigued by her approach now

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:17 (two years ago)

Because my partner can't stand the Big Thief singer's voice, but can listen to Florist

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:21 (two years ago)

Would like Butterss and the Jeff Parker IVtet to place

― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, January 30, 2023 12:56 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I would love that! That and the Prekop/McEntire joint

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:23 (two years ago)

I think I truly have ilx to thank for getting me to keep trying with Big Thief, thanks to the overflowing praise for their first two albums. I actually like their last 3 albums best, I think? Really spectacular songwriting and such a great band feel.

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:25 (two years ago)

he's a solid songwriter but that wasn't really enough to make him stand out before, there's a whole lot of artists making competent enough 90s-ish indie rock. last time i paid attention to him was 2015 or so and he was fine back then but there were only hints of what he's doing now production-wise

― ufo, Monday, January 30, 2023 2:55 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah I do agree -- there's a lot of texture added by his regular vocal manipulations on this album. More piano, too, than I remember in his previous albums, which complements his always-interesting guitar work. Recently found out that he did some of the guitar work on Frank Ocean's Blonde.

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:26 (two years ago)

The kind of uk hiphop that this board really ignores is uk drill. 'Body' didn't make the track list last year despite being a groundbreaking #1 hit, and Pop Smoke wasn't even nominated in the decades polls (my fault too).

Frederik B, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:27 (two years ago)

More piano, too

always a good thing

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:28 (two years ago)

Also ufo if you never listened to House of Sugar, you should go back and give it a go!

Indexed, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:28 (two years ago)

I feel bad I still haven't heard the Jeff Parker IVtet, but it's not v accessible / is $$$

tbrr rap in general isn't that popular here these days

rob, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:28 (two years ago)

i'm planning on going back to house of sugar and the other alex g albums i missed, yeah

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:31 (two years ago)

I keep confusing Florist with Botanist.

― ArchCarrier, Monday, January 30, 2023 2:59 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This has happened to me tbh

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:31 (two years ago)

More piano, too

---

this really reminds me of Mogwai on this record. Some of the guitar as well

kraudive, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:35 (two years ago)

The kind of uk hiphop that this board really ignores is uk drill. 'Body' didn't make the track list last year despite being a groundbreaking #1 hit, and Pop Smoke wasn't even nominated in the decades polls (my fault too).

― Frederik B, Monday, January 30, 2023 4:27 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

"body" didn't make it (as it shouldn't have) but that headie one song that samples crazy town did (maybe in 2020, idk)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:04 (two years ago)

"body" didn't make it (as it shouldn't have) but that headie one song that samples crazy town did (maybe in 2020, idk)

― sault bae (voodoo chili), 30. januar 2023 23:04 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

But that one doesn't go full UK Drill until the last thirty seconds, and it has Stormzy on it.

Frederik B, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:10 (two years ago)

It's still a nice track, though.

Frederik B, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:13 (two years ago)

Voted for Stromae and Little Simz, but so many great albums that just missed my ballot: Ravyn Lenaej, Loraine James, Edge of Innocence, Florist, Alex G... Good stuff.

octobeard, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:18 (two years ago)

ok so i like "runaway train" more than i remembered. i prefer alex's shaggy dog manner to soul asylum guy's sub-bon jovi yarl

― sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, January 30, 2023 12:31 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Dave Pirner is somewhere in Minneapolis, shaking his head at this blatant disrespect of his legacy

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:25 (two years ago)

I need to check out The Bible, I've fallen a bit behind on my Lambchop. The reviews of Showtunes made it sound like something I wouldn't really like and I guess the association just carried over for the new one.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:33 (two years ago)

I need to check out The Bible, I've fallen a bit behind on my Lambchop

don't worry it gets to that part in the first book

sault bae (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:36 (two years ago)

Two votes of mine have placed on the first day and they were both from my top 10! I think I've said this already, but the Javiera album has an air of "greatest hits" to it (I've been hammering "‎Corazón Astral" since 2020). No wasted moments; it's smash after smash for me.

The Ravyn Lenae album perhaps lacks a rallying-cry track like "Sticky", but I adore it and put it at #3. It sits at the middle of an Erika de Casier / Janet / Syd & Steve Lacy Venn Diagram which for me is an attractive sort of place.

monotony, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:54 (two years ago)

lol xp

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 23:00 (two years ago)

also an hearty lol from moi

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 30 January 2023 23:20 (two years ago)

the new lambchop is somewhere between showtunes and this (is what i wanted to tell you) in sound, but it's much stronger than showtunes

ufo, Monday, 30 January 2023 23:38 (two years ago)

I'm still not totally sold on the new Lambchop, but that unexpected "HEY" in the third song was one of my favourite musical moments of the year.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 01:18 (two years ago)

I really liked Alex G's 2014 album DSU and somehow nothing he has done since then has connected with me as much, even as he's gotten more acclaim.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 01:41 (two years ago)

Throw the rest of Lucifer on the Sofa out but keep the stellar title track (best they've ever done? If its their last album, what a great way to finish). Florist too kitschy.

hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 01:51 (two years ago)

Kitschy? Boring I understand, kitschy I don't.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:10 (two years ago)

voted for Ravyn Lenae, Björk, Loraine James today. hopeful that the latter will make another appearance here.

fleeting art that floats! (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 03:41 (two years ago)

https://drayk.it/song/16ccebdfbd9e42628d8cc79e2a7b6b1f

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 04:26 (two years ago)

you can just hit retry and it spits out another one.
https://drayk.it/song/763db56e08b042b286543e939cd067c7

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 04:29 (two years ago)

Was there some interview or news item that hinted this would be the last Spoon album? I hadn’t heard that.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 04:42 (two years ago)

Stick a Fork in Spoon

degenerative AI (morrisp), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 04:53 (two years ago)

It was in a Spin interview:

Is the goal you want to carry forward into the future with your next record? I’m assuming you’ve got to be thinking about your next steps.
I don’t know. Is there going to be another Spoon record? I don’t know.

Is there going to be another Spoon record after this?
I don’t know that. I usually wouldn’t have asked that question, but who knows? I don’t know. I could see us having a great time on tour in April and then saying, let’s write some more songs immediately. Let’s keep this train rolling. I could see doing any number of things though. Life is too short.

Then I read somewhere after the New York show that he is taking a break from Spoon and will do something else next. May or may not do another Spoon record.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 05:06 (two years ago)

https://www.spin.com/2022/03/spoon-britt-daniel-interview/

Bee OK, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 05:10 (two years ago)

that just sounds like there's no plans to make another record immediately, not any sort of real suggestion they're going to break up or anything

ufo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 05:11 (two years ago)

you can just hit retry and it spits out another one.
https://drayk.it/song/763db56e08b042b286543e939cd067c7

― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu)

Lol it’s getting there… wouldn’t be surprised if 2023 is the year we get a top 10 billboard hit done by AI…. Although there’s already been some that make me suspicious of how long the technology has been around.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 05:25 (two years ago)

I should have voted for the Arctic Monkeys album but I didn't love it like their two albums before. It did barely make it so all is good I guess. I did vote for a single off of it however.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 06:02 (two years ago)

Edge of Innocence is great, was in the top half of my mixed ballot.

For those enjoying it for the first time, would also recommend Black Rave Culture's Vol 2 album

https://blackraveculture.bandcamp.com/album/brc-vol-2

groovypanda, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 07:26 (two years ago)

i definitely should have voted for the alex g album

ufo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 10:14 (two years ago)

whoa, this is v interesting stuff, dunno why i didn't pay more attention

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 10:34 (two years ago)

moments like the end of 'cross the sea' making me sit up

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 10:46 (two years ago)

i hope he keeps pushing and ends up in frailty territory

ufo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 10:57 (two years ago)

yes, but this is already very fine stuff where he is now. definitely a step or 3 up on what i heard of him before, more confident and apt to take risks

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:12 (two years ago)

yeah he still really went for it on half this album

ufo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:23 (two years ago)

He’s been taking risks and unpredictable detours in his past albums. Rocket had songs like brick, sportstar and horse.

Also House of Sugar didn’t do it particularly well but the middle portion of it got really weird and abstract with songs like taking or project 2.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:19 (two years ago)

I gave (unweighted) points to Loraine James and Little Simz from the first batch. Two artists I dutifully check out without necessarily expecting to be blown away. But they both proved more durable than expected in the fullness of time.

I guess Björk and Lambchop are in much the same category for me but I didn't seem to persist with the former and overlooked the latter this time around!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:39 (two years ago)

Going to take a shower and make breakfast for baby girl. I’ll start now and post around 4 albums this next hour and afterwards the usual 6 per hour.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 13:57 (two years ago)

yawn

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:08 (two years ago)

give us rap! no not that one!

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:11 (two years ago)

lol sorry vc i do get it

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:11 (two years ago)

The first Pusha album I played weeks (and even months!) after release.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:12 (two years ago)

funny because this album grew old for me as i was listening to it and made me wonder why i ever listened to him in the first place

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:15 (two years ago)

give us metal! no not that one!

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:20 (two years ago)

don't know this band at all - what would be good reference points?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:24 (two years ago)

Tried w/Chat Pile, found it interesting but not for me.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:27 (two years ago)

Couch Slut mine similar-ish musical territory (I much prefer them) - as far as explicitly anti-establishment metal last year went I was more into Ashenspire. I guess all roads lead back to Godflesh

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:29 (two years ago)

'gravity bongo' really is rather cool isn't it

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

Really liked this album, think I gave one of the tracks some points as this missed my ballot

nxd, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

xxxp Jesus Lizard/Melvins/Flipper obvious points of reference too, it's a great album

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:42 (two years ago)

It's possible I casually heard "Brambleton" (etc) more than any other 2023 music, as It's Almost Dry spent much the year at the very start of a 2022 playlist lol. It all sounded okay to my ears, without getting as far as parsing lyrics, etc.

Speaking of which, Chat Pile's "Why" is quite striking, lyrically. Never knowingly heard them before this instant.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:45 (two years ago)

I liked the Pusha T album and I voted for it.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:46 (two years ago)

chat pile is not metal, it is noise rock

na (NA), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:49 (two years ago)

Give Chat Pile some credit for calling their best song "grimace_smoking_weed.jpeg"

enochroot, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:51 (two years ago)

straddles the line imo. it's in all the metal magazine lists fwiw

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:51 (two years ago)

Real hero of The Smile is Tom Skinner imo.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:57 (two years ago)

I enjoyed The Smile album when it came out the few times I heard it, but never felt the need to go back to it. This placement seems about right.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

too high

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:03 (two years ago)

ho ho

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

should've just called it Mid

rob, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

only 7 votes though...is this fake

rob, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

her worst since 1989, doesn't even manage to have the camp value of reputation, but "you're on your own kid" is her best summary of self since "the archer"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:06 (two years ago)

"anti-hero" is also a very good song. i wish i were more enthusiastic about this record. tim's posts about it are good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:09 (two years ago)

if "anti-hero"'s instrumentation were more "rock" it'd be the best sheryl crow song in decades y/y?

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

her worst

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, January 31, 2023 9:06 AM (fifty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

:(

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:11 (two years ago)

Wow, this is low. Even Reputation made our top 20 and that was slightly worse.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:11 (two years ago)

Reputation is actually good

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:13 (two years ago)

Seeing Taylor that low actually just gave me a boost of confidence that some decent records are coming up

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:13 (two years ago)

Reputation gets a bad wrap but she wasn't afraid to try new things -- not all were successful yet it has at least three Greatest Hits worthy tracks. Nearly every song on Midnights is a rehash of something she's done before. Needs to break the Antonoff chain.

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:15 (two years ago)

There's way too many underwhelming records from once-good artists on this list, but yeah, at least they're placed low. But I voted for Animal Collective, so it's hypocritical for me to complain anyway.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:16 (two years ago)

Heh -- the Taylor Swift album sounds like a washed out Beach House album.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:18 (two years ago)

My interest in Beach House peaked around ten years ago I guess but 'Hurts To Love' is nice enough

nashwan, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

This was just too much Beach House. It starts so strong and then I always lose interest about five songs in. It might actually be their weakest album since the debut.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

i don't think that the taylor album sounds like beach house haha

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

speaking of beach house, i listened to this one time on the plane and thought it was fine!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:27 (two years ago)

aw, was secretly hoping for a 78

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

good job on ilm for relegating the overhyped critical darlings to the 50-60 range

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

The Smile live record that came out recently is better than the record.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

great stretch this. gives me plenty of time to prepare more amapiano posts that everyone will (un)politely ignore.

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

lol yes, 51-60 is not looking dissimilar to a lot of zines' top tens

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

The From The Basement Radiohead performances of TKOL were also miles above the album version.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

Hm. I was going to complain that today was billed as being an interesting day and nothing so far has been interesting, but I think the low placements of Taylor and Wet Leg actually *are* pretty interesting (assuming they aren't fake-outs). I would have expected both to show up on the last day, honestly.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

I liked what I heard from that Chat Pile album but didn’t spend enough time with it to vote for it.

o. nate, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:37 (two years ago)

Hm. I was going to complain that today was billed as being an interesting day and nothing so far has been interesting, but I think the low placements of Taylor and Wet Leg actually *are* pretty interesting (assuming they aren't fake-outs). I would have expected both to show up on the last day, honestly.

― emil.y

I promise they’re not fake-outs. In my defense I said the most interesting albums are in the middle portion of the poll so albums that placed somewhere around 55 - 35 :P

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:38 (two years ago)

good job on ilm for relegating the overhyped critical darlings to the 50-60 range

So Renaissance is coming up next?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:39 (two years ago)

Don't think I voted for it but the Wet Leg album was actually pretty decent

groovypanda, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:39 (two years ago)

xp i said "overhyped"!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:39 (two years ago)

Right. I was mostly joking on that.

Something like Jockstrap would be more appropriate to pop up now.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:42 (two years ago)

So glad to see this rank! Listened to Ghosted a dozen times in Novemeber in December. Though Shebang's "I" is a higher high, this one is a more captivating listen overall.

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:44 (two years ago)

Was just playing that Orcutt last night, it is indeed fantastic.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

I think I've liked every Ambarchi record I've heard without ever quite becoming a full-on fan

rob, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:47 (two years ago)

Ghosted is sounding great right now

jmm, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:47 (two years ago)

Ambarchi and Orcutt I kind of file in the same mental space: it's cool, I like it, but it rarely moves me much.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:55 (two years ago)

Someone smarter than me could make a joke about the upcoming tie and horse races.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:57 (two years ago)

i love orcutt's guitar albums, but "music for four guitars" is probably my least favorite of them - it's a little too much. i prefer him just playing live guitar, not overdubbing.

na (NA), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

Ghosted was my #10, Horsegirl in my top 20, glad to see both. Ghosted has been a go-to all year for "music to write to" for me.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:01 (two years ago)

Yay Horsegirl! That's two placements for me now.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:01 (two years ago)

Love the Orcutt record, and I think Ghosted is okay but a little too refined for my taste— I kept waiting for a moment to take me by surprise, like so many other groove-based heady jazz wanderings, but it never happened. Same level, the whole time.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:02 (two years ago)

presuming the other is Horse Lords, Moka is totally a coward for not posting three chinstrokingcore albums in a row lol

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:05 (two years ago)

Horsegirl! Great band, great album

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

anyway Horsegirl album is good yeah

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:07 (two years ago)

presuming the other is Horse Lords, Moka is totally a coward for not posting three chinstrokingcore albums in a row lol

― imago

Lol I’m going by alphabet on ties

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:08 (two years ago)

Ghosted is good, but I honestly thought Shebang was a much better 2022 Ambarchi record.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:09 (two years ago)

Renaissance has a horse, too

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:10 (two years ago)

yawn

― sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, January 31, 2023 8:08 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is how I feel about The Smile tbh

It’s just …. It’s technically well done and I should be enjoying myself, but it goes on forever and something doesn’t quite click

On the other hand, Pusha T is my first vote to place

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:11 (two years ago)

I listened to the Smile record twice right through and have never felt the need to listen to it again. I'm probably revealing my drumming ignorance but I didn't find Skinner was given much room to reveal himself, tbh.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:14 (two years ago)

Loved the Orcutt and Ambarchi but couldn't find room for them on my ballot.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:15 (two years ago)

I am generally a Horse Lords booster but I didn't get around to this album - there were so many albums that this happened to last year, I'm glad I'm not one of you journalists b/c I don't think I can do the whole "listening because I'm supposed to" thing, even when the "supposed to" just comes from the fact that I'd probably like it if I tried it.

Anyway, double horse placement is excellent serendipity, I approve.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

Double Horse Placement Theme Tune

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:18 (two years ago)

somehow had no idea this existed, this is amazing

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

still not clear what level of reissue/rarities/b-sides is allowed in the poll and what isn't, i.e. this broadcast release is OK but not the pj harvey collection? is it just that no one thought to nominate the pj harvey?

na (NA), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:22 (two years ago)

people don’t listen to enough new music

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:22 (two years ago)

brimstead otm

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:22 (two years ago)

Last time I think people complained that Taylor fans on ilx put all her albums in the top 10 no matter what, which wasn't true then and definitely not now. After folklore/evermore, possibly my two favourite albums of her and kinda my dream TS projects, I said she could do whatevr she wants from now, and I guess the answer to that is middling repetition with a few really nice standouts.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

The Orcutt came, of all his solo records, nearest to being my bag, but missed my ballot and general lost.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

List

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

"Running Up That Hill" really is going to place in the singles poll, isn't it.

Chris L, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:28 (two years ago)

Yay for Horse Lords, another one I voted for, and I think their best yet.

o. nate, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:30 (two years ago)

I didn't vote for Broadcast as I wanted to focus on new albums as apposed to reissues or releases of older music, but if I had it would have comfortably been my number one.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:36 (two years ago)

Another good Miranda Lambert album, also in my top 20. Didn't vote for Jazz Codes, but I liked both it and the 700 Bliss album. Moor Mother is awesome. (Irreversible Entanglements was in my top 10 last year.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

Moor Mother is extremely deep and intense

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

I really need to get around to hearing the 700 Bliss album

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

Broadcast and Moor Mother a fitting entry into the top 50

Nabozo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

I like the 700 Bliss record more than Jazz Codes, personally

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:58 (two years ago)

hell yeah

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:00 (two years ago)

nice! didn't vote but enjoy this one

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:00 (two years ago)

That Mr. Fingers was my summer '22 album.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:02 (two years ago)

The legend

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:03 (two years ago)

Couldn't quite get into this one, but it did take me about two years for his previous one to click, so I'll keep trying

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

The albums by venerable house music legends that i voted for were Ron Trent and Omar S; would highly recommend both - sad that they probably won't place

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:07 (two years ago)

Jazz Codes is my first vote to place. I've admired her solo work before, but I really enjoyed luxuriating in the sound of this one. I've never heard of 700 Bliss! I'll check it out now

rob, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

The albums by venerable house music legends that i voted for were Ron Trent and Omar S; would highly recommend both - sad that they probably won't place

Same, but swap out for Louie Vega.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:15 (two years ago)

Ok I'll admit that Oren Ambarchi is one of those names that I've seen around forever but have never really checked out, and both Ghosted and Shebang (also from 2022, don't know if it was nommed) sound incredible.

Looking forward to listening to Horse Lords too, another band whose albums I only hear about from these polls apparently.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:17 (two years ago)

MMM it's 15 albums per day so I think that might all for the day. Unless you want one more?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:18 (two years ago)

Convinced Miranda Lambert is just never going to have a real miss, unless you want to count the Pistol Annies Christmas album

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

I talked to MMM and they said one more plz

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:21 (two years ago)

well, if MMM approves, say no more

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:26 (two years ago)

"lightning" and "twice" - both great. the rest of the album was pleasant and didn't really stick with me.

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

RECAP 77-45

#76: Javiera Mena - Nocturna - 154 points - 6 votes
#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car  - 154 points - 6 votes
#75: Suede - Autofiction - 154 points - 7 votes
#74: The Garden - Horseshit on Route 66 - 162 points - 4 votes
#72: Ravyn Lenae - HYPNOS - 162 points - 6 votes
#72: Burna Boy - Love, Damini - 162 points - 6 votes
#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me - 166 points - 7 votes
#70: Stromae - Multitude - 176 points - 5 votes
#69: Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa - 177 points - 6 votes
#68: Angel Olsen - Big Time - 183 points - 6 votes
#67: Florist - Florist - 189 points - 7 votes
#66: Little Simz - NO THANK YOU - 190 points - 6 votes
#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1 - 196 points - 5 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#63: Björk - Fossora - 196 points - 10 votes
#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals - “” - 196 points - 10 votes
#62: Lambchop - The Bible - 197 points - 8 votes
#61: D. Tiffany & Roza Terenzi - Edge of Innocence - 198 points - 7 votes
#60: Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry - 201 points - 7 votes
#59: Chat Pile - God's Country - 202 points - 7 votes
#58: The Smile - A Light for Attracting Attention - 205 points - 8 votes
#57: Taylor Swift - Midnights - 206 points - 7 votes
#56: Beach House - Once Twice Melody - 207 points - 8 votes
#55: Wet Leg - Wet Leg - 209 points - 8 votes
#54: Oren Ambarchi/Johan Berthling/Andreas Werlin - Ghosted - 214 points - 8 votes
#53: Bill Orcutt - Music For Four Guitars - 216 points - 6 votes
#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance - 220 points - 8 votes
#51: Horse Lords - Comradely Objects - 220 points - 8 votes
#50: Broadcast - Maida Vale Sessions - 222 points - 7 votes
#49: Moor Mother - Jazz Codes - 223 points - 7 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#48: Miranda Lambert - Palomino - 224 points - 8 votes
#46: Mr Fingers - Around the Sun Pt 1 - 232 points - 7 votes
#46: Hatchie - Giving the World Away - 232 points - 7 votes
#45: Charli XCX - Crash - 240 points - 10 votes

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:32 (two years ago)

Hatchie solo started out crazy strong imo, but neither of her ensuing lps have really made much of an impact on me. I'm intrigued to see what becomes of a revived Babaganouj, though.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

charliiiii. love this record though "only" managed to put it at #6

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:37 (two years ago)

love every track and even came around to thinking the bonus tracks are awesome

strong year i guess!

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:39 (two years ago)

Still only on one of my votes placing, though there's a fair amount of stuff here I feel generally positive about (and the usual dross too, lol).

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:06 (two years ago)

yay Horse Lords! great record, I liked it much more than the previous one

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:08 (two years ago)

i think i'm still somehow at zero votes placing

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:11 (two years ago)

none here yet either and expecting ten or so of mine to place still but who knows

nashwan, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:13 (two years ago)

Just Florist for me, but it's hard to imagine my number one placing, could be interesting with some of the others?

Fuck though these Oren Ambarchi records are really hitting my current sweet spot, based on some music I've been working on.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

0 for me so far, and have a lil hope for 1 or 2 maybeeee

nxd, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

Mr Fingers shd've been higher, i think it was the one album i forgot to vote for

Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

You voted, NV? Glad to hear it, I thought you were a staunch non-voter.

I've got one definite vote to come, possibly one or two more might sneak in?

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:27 (two years ago)

don't tell me Shabason & Krgovich is 78

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:28 (two years ago)

did it in 5 minutes, just the albums i've been into last year, didn't over-worry about it

Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:28 (two years ago)

still on 0, think i'm on for 4 total, possibly all tomorrow lol

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:40 (two years ago)

new charli was kind of okay but really a letdown by any reasonable metric imo

imago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:40 (two years ago)

it was the best charli record since pop 2

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:41 (two years ago)

yup I'm on 0 too, and honestly idk if any of them will place lol

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:41 (two years ago)

(i did not vote for it; i support her working more with george daniel tho) xp

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:42 (two years ago)

Thinking the album from my list most likely to be 78'd is Rachika Nayar, but also wouldn't be surprised to see it in the 100s.

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:42 (two years ago)

voted for Horse Lords from today, Little Simz from yesterday. I figure there's probably another 3 to 5 of mine that will show up in the coming days.

silverfish, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:44 (two years ago)

i think that mighta been my fave horse lords album, glad they went a bit different this time as it's the sorta genre where bands keep repeating themselves

here's a question that's probs been answered elsewhere - how good are they live?

nxd, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:27 (two years ago)

Horse Lords and Oren Ambarchi are a great 1-2 punch of minimalism, poll delivers

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:52 (two years ago)

Only Hatchie and Charli from my list today. I've loved both Hatchie's albums and she was so good when I saw her live this year. I thought this album was going be her breakthrough, but it seems like she's just going to remain a cult artist for now. The album seemed like a perfect next step for her going in a dark and more synth based direction. That latest non-album single is excellent too.

Crash suffered from following How I'm Feeling Now which was such an important album for me in 2020. I know a lot of people were disappointed with it (mainly on RYM) and I can see why. I wasn't expecting much from the singles which were all mid-level Charli. It grew on me a lot when I went back to it in December even if I didn't quite have the same connection I had with How I'm Feeling Now.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:55 (two years ago)

I'm at five already (Little Simz, Björk, Alex G, Broadcast, Moor Mother) and I like the general look of the list. It has introduced me to the Javiera Mena (pleasant) and right now to Oren Ambarchi (the kind of music that doesn't need to go anywhere).

Nabozo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:00 (two years ago)

I've had four place so far (Alex G, Angel Olsen, Beach House, and Hatchie ). Based on past polls I'd expect two thirds of my list to make it and I wouldn't be surprised if my top three is the board's top three.

aphoristical, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:05 (two years ago)

broadcast, orcutt, chat pile and horse lords have shown up for me so far. love all 4 so much.

Digging Ghosted a lot. I voted for a different Ambarchi that im now assuming will show up later

gman59, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

I'll make a random guess that Destroyer is #78

Nabozo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:08 (two years ago)

Just one (Pusha) for me.

At most, Parker, SZA, Prekop/McEntire will place from my ballot, but probably just SZA.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:08 (two years ago)

Nothing for me yet but I expect at least 8 of my top 10 to show up.

Chris L, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:09 (two years ago)

hmm i still expect all 3 to come up

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:12 (two years ago)

xp

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:12 (two years ago)

#78 remains undiscovered btw, make your bets now

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:27 (two years ago)

nxd - Horse Lords are incredibly brilliant live

kraudive, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:29 (two years ago)

Although I've not heard this record. I think I ordered the LP twice and it was out of stock both times

kraudive, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:31 (two years ago)

Nice to see Bill Orcutt place - voted it very high. It's a beautiful record.

kraudive, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:31 (two years ago)

#78 remains undiscovered btw, make your bets now

― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, January 31, 2023 3:27 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

gonna go with lady aicha and co.

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:37 (two years ago)

tho given moka's comments i wouldn't be surprised if it shows up tomorrow

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:37 (two years ago)

#60: Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry: It didn't stick with me, but I liked how it was supposed to be one half Pharrell productions, one half Kanye. So then Pharrell did half the album on his own, while the other half was made by the, like, ten producers or so, who are currently doing the work for Kanye.
#59: Chat Pile - God's Country: One of the last albums cut from my ballot, I also ended up voting for a track instead, and now I'm curious if that one will place. Also, like imago, I much preferred the Ashenspire record, but I thought they were both good enough to list. So I also really hope to see Ashenspire on here.
#58: The Smile - A Light for Attracting Attention: I liked it well enough, but the only Radiohead-related project I've really been into since Amnesiac was The King of Limbs.
#57: Taylor Swift - Midnights: Such a disappointment. What a shame to be such a great artist, and then play it so safe. Nothing new, nothing she hasn't done better before. It didn't even feel like she lost it, it was very accomplished, there was just nothing on it that hadn't worked over and over and over before. Complete bore.
#56: Beach House - Once Twice Melody: I do not need 80 minutes of new Beach House, lol. What an insane idea, when they kinda don't change that much from album to album.
#55: Wet Leg - Wet Leg: Not my thing, but thought it was fine. Would have been fine with it placing higher. One of the better britrock hypes in years.
#54: Oren Ambarchi/Johan Berthling/Andreas Werlin - Ghosted: My #6. Feared the vote would be split between this and Shebang, but I just loved the sound of this one. The groove just sounds amazing. My favorite thing he has done since Audience of One
#53: Bill Orcutt - Music For Four Guitars: Don't know it, will check out.
#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance: Don't know it, will check out.
#51: Horse Lords - Comradely Objects: Don't get it. They are fine, but a bit too samey.
#50: Broadcast - Maida Vale Sessions: ILX really love the nineties.
#49: Moor Mother - Jazz Codes: Very good album, almost voted for it. Though I preferred her last two.
#48: Miranda Lambert - Palomino: Some day I will give modern country a change. It wasn't 2022. And it probably won't be 2023.
#46: Mr Fingers - Around the Sun Pt 1: Don't know it, will check out.
#46: Hatchie - Giving the World Away: Don't care.
#45: Charli XCX - Crash: Definitely her best since Pop 2. Didn't vote for it or for any of the singles, but she is the best at what she does.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:45 (two years ago)

Is #78 Animal Collective? That would make a lot of people happy.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:46 (two years ago)

it was their best record in years, I expect it to do better but idk

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:53 (two years ago)

I'm going to guess Tove Lo.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:55 (two years ago)

the only Radiohead-related project I've really been into since Amnesiac was The King of Limbs.

What a fascinatingly bizarre opinion!

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:56 (two years ago)

will probably never listen to any of these albums but I like a lot of the album covers.

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:12 (two years ago)

i love how these polls show what little musical bubbles we all live in. people are always like "hmm so [album i've literally never heard of in my life] hasn't placed yet, hopefully that means it's in the top 10!" (view this as either me being in a bubble or the person talking being in a bubble or both, your choice)

na (NA), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:16 (two years ago)

lol

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:30 (two years ago)

maybe some people think like that, but i know with 100% certainty that the cash cobain and chow lee album is destined for the top 10

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:30 (two years ago)

20 slizzy 22 sexy

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:30 (two years ago)

I think it's actually the opposite? Like, I've already given up on three of mine.

Indexed, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:31 (two years ago)

the only Radiohead-related project I've really been into since Amnesiac was The King of Limbs.

What a fascinatingly bizarre opinion!

I was genuinely surprised when the reviews were so bad. It's the one genuinely weird turn they've taken the last twenty years. I was 13 years old in 2000, and Kid A was the weirdest thing I'd ever heard, and I guess I'll always want Radiohead to give me that feeling again?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:35 (two years ago)

I can see it, it's definitely their murkiest album, and Kid A has a similarly dark, murky tone to me

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:37 (two years ago)

#78 remains undiscovered btw, make your bets now

― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu)

I'm going to guess either Mitski or Gwenno for 78. Both seem like the kind of album that could get four or five votes.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:42 (two years ago)

I agree with Frederik, TKOL might be after Kid A the Radiohead album I return to the most. Only flaw is Staircase didn’t make it into the album.

In Rainbows is still great tho but haven’t revisited in years.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:47 (two years ago)

TKOL is their grooviest record.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:48 (two years ago)

#60: Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry - wasn't much too compelling about this idk
#59: Chat Pile - God's Country - not my sort of sludge
#58: The Smile - A Light for Attracting Attention - down with the weakest radiohead albums, too many weird time signature grooves & thin arrangements seemingly limited by the power trio format
#57: Taylor Swift - Midnights - cannot believe this is so low here when reputation placed #32 and lover was #11 and those are much much worse albums
#56: Beach House - Once Twice Melody - beach house definitely do not have the range to have even considered making a double album
#55: Wet Leg - Wet Leg - i am a gigantic hater of "chaise longue" but at least it was memorable compared to the rest of this
#54: Oren Ambarchi/Johan Berthling/Andreas Werlin - Ghosted - ambarchi's shebang was nice, will have to check this out
#53: Bill Orcutt - Music For Four Guitars - this sounds like math rock with everything except the guitars removed, i don't really expect to be into this for the length of a full album
#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance - i have to know why imago likes this because what i'd heard of this was the sort of serviceable indie rock he'd normally denounce. but i'm listening to "billy" now and it's pretty nice at least, somewhere between stereolab and yo la tengo
#51: Horse Lords - Comradely Objects - for some reason i was expecting this to be skronkier - oh there it is on the third track. the smile could learn from the grooves on this!
#50: Broadcast - Maida Vale Sessions - if broadcast never quite did it for me i probably shouldn't expect an archival live release to be revelatory or anything?
#49: Moor Mother - Jazz Codes - how did i miss this? where was this discussed here, since forks said it got a lot of discussion? the little i listened to sounds lovely, hope the rest keeps that up
#48: Miranda Lambert - Palomino - too much of this is the sort of country that's really not my thing
#46: Mr Fingers - Around the Sun Pt 1 - pleasant but not transcendent
#46: Hatchie - Giving the World Away - this was fine, hooks not as good as the debut though
#45: Charli XCX - Crash - a few great tracks ("lightning", "twice", "crash") and the rest is solid but nothing more. underwhelming compared to the last two but still better than expected

ufo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:42 (two years ago)

I agree that Midnights is better than Reputation or Lover (though I'm sympathetic to people who feel otherwise, in particular re Reputation), but I can understand that at a high level it seems like a less interesting or compelling album than those, in that (for the first time) it feels like Taylor's artistic development has basically rebounded on itself.

I spent a lot of time trying to identify what I felt was novel and interesting about the approaches and decisions taken, but I can't blame anyone else for not going to the same trouble and instead concluding that there is nothing new in the album to "get" (and anyway once I felt like I had "cracked the code" of what Taylor was doing, I basically stopped listening to the album, albeit that that is a common thing for me with most music).

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:51 (two years ago)

“you’re on your own” is good

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:52 (two years ago)

The Reputation hate is mystifying (and a bit disappointing, tbh)... guess that's the Taylor album I love (second-favorite only to Evermore) that I'll have to accept many folks just don't appreciate.

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:53 (two years ago)

reputation and lover are both interesting failures and midnights is a boring success

ufo, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:58 (two years ago)

I haven't listened to Reputation in a very long time, and even when it was new I only spun it 3 times max, but there's almost nothing I hate worse than pop singers chronicling their own stardom and obsessions with their haters and their, er, reputations. Taylor's never not been guilty of this, but it seems like that album in particular is when she couldn't practice any restraint.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:00 (two years ago)

“getaway car” tho

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:14 (two years ago)

Reputation and (to a lesser extent) Lover sound a lot better to me now than they did at the time, when it seemed like Taylor was (with the occasional exception) on an ongoing path of progressively reducing the prominence of her creative voice in her own songwriting - now they seem like detours and explorations.

"You're On Your Own, Kid" is not only very good but also probably the clearest example of why I do maintain that Midnights is secretly interesting. It's really the third in a trilogy comprising "Long Story Short" and "Renegade": voluble talking cure songs that from almost anyone other songwriter would flop utterly (it occurs to me that a precedent for this approach might be Joni's "Lessons In Survival", which IIRC also dispenses with choruses).

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:16 (two years ago)

Mr Fingers, the one thing hear I don't recall at least sampling previously, sounds exactly like the background playlist for the menus on a cable TV interface I'm acquainted with. (Not dissing. I'm all for furniture music tbh, and will stick around to see how this might stand out from that crowd. Just as I type that "Coastline Paradox" offers hints of 70s synths and dub, so it's looking up lol!)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:18 (two years ago)

"the one thing HERE" obviously, geez.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:21 (two years ago)

I don't think it's a record that courts the spectacular but I rarely look for that in a record nowadays

Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:26 (two years ago)

It's nice to chill out to.

I love Mr Fingers in general but I am still surprised by how much I love that album. It was on repeat all summer.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:38 (two years ago)

FWIW I did vote for the aforementioned Ron Trent LP, which I guess is just as scrupulously, er, unspectacular. Hard to say why that would be a more immediate thing for me.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 01:07 (two years ago)

i didn't vote for ron trent but i hope it places, might have made my ballot if i'd heard it sooner

ufo, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 01:11 (two years ago)

Xps much of the Moor mother conversation is with irreversible entanglements and international anthem threads iirc

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:10 (two years ago)

which threads are those?

ufo, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:34 (two years ago)

i loved both mr fingers and ron trent but i voted for the latter, which seemed a bit more eventful and adventurous and less hermetic

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:38 (two years ago)

International Anthem: S/D

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 03:08 (two years ago)

Glad to see Ambarchi place - it made my ballot iirc. I was a huge fan of Interventions and The Common Task but didn't get around to hearing all of Comradely Objects until just now and it's ofc great.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 03:28 (two years ago)

sometimes I think moor mother is just as 'background' as larry heard but like, inverted

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 06:31 (two years ago)

the Moor Mother Myth: there has been no discussion whatsoever on Jazz Codes that I can find.
none on that International Anthems•• thread (and there doesn’t seem to be a thread on Irreversible Entanglements), and only two posts about it on the actual Moor Mother thread. it has been mentioned in several AOTY (So Far) lists tho.
hope to find out if she really exists when she’s coming to a place very near me, which will be soon

••people were discussing Daniel Villarreal’s Panamá 77 there however, which is sounding pretty good this morning

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 07:07 (two years ago)

you caught us: we made her up

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 08:20 (two years ago)

reputation and lover are both interesting failures and midnights is a boring success

― ufo, 1. februar 2023 00:58 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Absolutely correct and a perfect way to say it. And Taylor Swift is the best songwriter of her generation - by far - so 'boring succes' is, well, unacceptable, I think. She just made a ten minute song that became an instant classic, she has the ability to do anything. And Midnights is what we get :/

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 08:22 (two years ago)

tbh i think this is more of an ish with scoring records and artist narratives than it is with individual albums

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 08:32 (two years ago)

i think midnights is one of her strongest front-to-back, but that's more a comment on how wildly inconsistent most of her albums are. this one's just fairly consistently decent but it doesn't really have career highlights or push her sound or songwriting forward or anything so i get why people are underwhelmed in that regard. just large sections of reputation and lover are so bad that i have no idea why people like them more overall - if it's "i prefer the version i edited in my head" then i can understand preferring lover at least i guess but idk

ufo, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 09:12 (two years ago)

ITT: half the people claim they don't expect more than 2 of their votes to place, the other half is discussing TS. I'm now looking suspiciously at all of you.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 10:09 (two years ago)

Taylor Swift is the best songwriter of her generation - by far -


Had no idea I could laugh so hard at the utter wrongness and absurdity of something posted on this site so early in the morning.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 11:52 (two years ago)

Moor Mother definitely exists, fwiw— I met her and smoked a cig with her back in 2017, when I first got into her work.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 11:54 (two years ago)

#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance - i have to know why imago likes this because what i'd heard of this was the sort of serviceable indie rock he'd normally denounce

have noticed on here (not you rly!) a tendency to sort of lump all indie rock together as one thing. we saw that the other day with the absurd equation of Florist and Elliott Smith. there are a HUGE amount of variations and nuances and different influences and styles even in the seemingly narrow band of indie rock that makes it to some level of acclaim. Horsegirl are really nothing like a whole load of their contemporaries - it's largely in the guitars. they use whammy bars extensively, they employ unusual chords, use distortion creatively, have a good sense of dynamics and tempo shifts. compared to something slick like Alvvays it's a completely different animal, way looser and way less about the pop song as object, much more about a whole-album sonic experience. i get the sense that because they're young women making indie they'll get lumped in with the Wet Legs of the world but unlike Wet Leg they have bundles of musical ability and extremely promising songwriting instincts. hopefully they get wilder, weirder and more willing to take risks as their career develops, because i can hear the explorative spirit of the best 90s indie in here

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 11:59 (two years ago)

Strongly agree about Horsegirl. Very promising album and instincts for a band of teenagers.

Chris L, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:13 (two years ago)

there is a UK indie album placing probably today which gets lumped in with a whole bunch of dross by the music press when it really is nothing remotely like much else, again with the guitar work a key point of difference. more as we get it

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:17 (two years ago)

tl;dr: stop talking about 'indie rock' like it's one thing, you wouldn't like it if i described all your slow-as-molasses arty jazzy mathpiffle as 'chinstrokingcore' oh wait i already did lol

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:18 (two years ago)

nah let's give bill orcutt a fair crack

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:19 (two years ago)

segues surprisingly well out of horsegirl in the playlist

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:19 (two years ago)

i get the sense that because they're young women making indie they'll get lumped in with the Wet Legs of the world

i looked at the horsegirl page on rym and it was entirely people arguing about whether that's a reasonable comparison point lol

also very confused to learn they're american not british?

ufo, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:43 (two years ago)

joining a venerable tradition! see also swirlies and so forth

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:04 (two years ago)

okay, this Horse Lords album, at fucking LAST, seems to have songs that actually go somewhere, enjoying it so far

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:15 (two years ago)

that said, small note of criticism - both the first two tracks have introduced a developing theme as an outro. you'd kind of want to hear the songs go on, push further, use these developments as a springboard. there's still an instinct towards the neat object, but at least this time the objects are moving. u can prog it up Horse Lords i believe in u

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

hmm

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:56 (two years ago)

Let’s go

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

!

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

haha this IS my day isn't it. my first vote to place! yay

absolutely sick, hutchings and chums in full techno-prog adventure mode, borderline riding a horse through space content, one of the highest forms of content

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:09 (two years ago)

First one for me too, some stomping jams here.

Chris L, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:13 (two years ago)

Never actually got around to listening to this, even though I like the Comet crew a lot. Guess I should!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:15 (two years ago)

lovely record this

nxd, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:23 (two years ago)

have had zero place. have 2 that might - soft pink truth (slight chance) and rosalia (high chance). i should probably have voted for the comet is coming but never got to spend enough time with it. of the ones already polled, i dug the bill orcutt, but not as much as some of his others and the oren ambarchi is great - i would definately have voted for it if i'd heard it.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:25 (two years ago)

definitely!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:25 (two years ago)

More Ambarchi!

If the Comet Is Coming is "riding a horse through space"-core, I'd better give it a proper listen.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:28 (two years ago)

The Comet Is Coming is my number 3, listened to this one a lot, I already liked them before, but this felt like a big step up from their previous stuff, just so full of energy

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:30 (two years ago)

I enjoyed catching up on the Taylor Swift discussion last night from Tim F, ufo, Frederick, JF, etc.

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:31 (two years ago)

I hadn’t heard Comet until now; it certainly lacks a punch.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

xxp fully agreed on the step up, banging tunes too

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

lacks or packs?

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

Packs

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

enjoyed all three of these albums last year, great start to the day

nxd, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:41 (two years ago)

nice! the word "British" is way too prominent in those quotes though lmao

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:44 (two years ago)

ooh what's this then

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:47 (two years ago)

the pitchfork review I quoted in the thread is not a bad capsule description:

On their latest LP, Finally, New, they spit aggressive, East Coast-flavored braggadocio raps over UK breaks and drum’n’bass beats filtered through local styles like Tampa jook and Miami bass. Even amid a deluge of rap music made with sounds from the club, little else sounds like this.

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:50 (two years ago)

never heard They Hate Change previously but loving it so far.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:51 (two years ago)

yeah this is enjoyable stuff

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

oh cool, didn't know the AnCo crew was still active here

loved the album, think it's easily one of their 3 best which is saying something because I think all their albums are pretty great (besides the ones that are not). "We Go Back" is probably my favorite song of the year. also saw them live which ruled.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:58 (two years ago)

I’m 75% sure I didn’t vote for this, but it’s a nice enough album.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:59 (two years ago)

All my AnCo attention went towards Panda Bear this year so I didn’t spend too much time with this one. Sounded pretty good iirc, might need to revisit it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

oh cool, didn't know the AnCo crew was still active here

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:02 (two years ago)

Lol I voted for the Aérodynes EP instead, this is great tho

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

three straight that i voted for!

they hate change was my #1! shout out to all the other voters

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:09 (two years ago)

Oh, yes, a second entry for me! As I said on the dedicated thread, this is the first one that really clicked for me, and I ended up liking it a lot. Missed the EP, I think someone said it was taken down?

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

yeah I had to cut this from my ballot, but it's very cool

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

The EP was taken down but then put back up on Bandcamp if you'd bought it, am sure it is findable tho! imo they probably have plans to re-release it in some form

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:16 (two years ago)

#1 to #39

i mean, she's one of my favourite songwriters ever and i didn't vote for it. probably unfairly, as it still has a few brilliant songs on it (not least that opener), but the overall effect was that of a softening and a partial retreat from the boldness of the records prior. 'might just be her magnum opus' - imo it might just be her 5th best release. if you think it's her magnum opus, bully for you, but....nah

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

loved the (anco) album, think it's easily one of their 3 best

i honestly think so too. was shocked about how good it was. def not quite at the level of feels but it's jockeying with mpp and strawberry jam in second place for me

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

your attitude to the new weyes blood album kind of depended, in a nutshell, on your attitude to 'god turn me into a flower'. is weyes blood fully embracing new-age ambient birdsong vybez ft. rich-kid-era 0PN a good thing? RYM immediately ranked it in the top 20 singles of all time, because they are children, but i'm not on board

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

anyway it's still a good album dammit

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:24 (two years ago)

didn't vote for anco but listened to the whole thing a few times which is more than i can say for most of the albums on here
tried to listen to the weyes blood and it was so dull

na (NA), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:24 (two years ago)

I only listened to the Weyes Blood once and found it mostly boring, but I only really like FRStE anyway

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

Wasn't able to get into this Weyes Blood, listened to it a handful of times and it made no impression on me at all

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:26 (two years ago)

i liked it

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:27 (two years ago)

"Grapevine" is a brilliantly lush single, and I still voted for the album, but it slipped out of my top 10. The last couple set a really high standard though, so can't be too hard on it.

Chris L, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:28 (two years ago)

Never got around to the AnCo album but heard a track in the Track Noms playlist and was surprised how much I liked it. Will put that in the queue.

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

xp yeah i mean the only thing that damns this album is how astonishing that innocents thru TR run was

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

now stop hanging out with lana and get your edge back lol

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

I had a feeling Weyes Blood would be a lot lower this time round. I had her just outside my top ten. If the album had all been as good as the first half, I would have had it higher. It's just not quite on the same level as her previous two albums which are close to perfect.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

very cool album, this

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:39 (two years ago)

probs my favourite perfume album in a decade

nxd, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

Only heard Plasma for the first time in the last month. Had no problem putting it in my top five almost immediately. Incredible album and probably the best I've heard by them.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:48 (two years ago)

Oh, great to see Perfume place. I didn't vote for it because it was never quite what I was in the right mood for last year. It's really good just wasn't my ~*~vibe~*~ at the time. I think I did end up voting for a track from it, though.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:49 (two years ago)

well on its way to finally dethroning game as my favorite perfume album, which is saying something

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:49 (two years ago)

also was a great replacement for going to therapy or working on my mental health at all last summer

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:50 (two years ago)

I am way behind but my comments so far is that Florists is a beautiful vibe, thank you for introducing me to it, and I like this new easy-listening version of Horse Lords, it scratches my Penguin Cafe Orchestra itch

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:51 (two years ago)

Oh cool! This was my #2 and yeah my favourite record of theirs now.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:51 (two years ago)

Today > Yesterday

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:57 (two years ago)

Catching up, as a new lover of Ambarchi I can't pick between these two albums but I'm glad they're both on the poll, looking forward to going through his back catalog.

Fievel is Glauque is more of a "respect" than "enjoy" thing for me so far, but hopefully they're just getting started. Drummer is fantastic.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:58 (two years ago)

yeah this They Hate Change is verrrrry cool

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

Feels like Liam Howlett is somehow involved lol

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:01 (two years ago)

seems to be a break so, here are more thots on albums i voted for

from my year-end post about they hate change: "An album built for both head-nodding and ass-shaking. It’s in constant motion even when it slows down...they operate with supreme confidence, creating a singular sonic blend informed, but not defined, by their omnivorous musical influences"

and about flaming swords: "Zach Phillips aims for sensory overload, cramming complex chords, modal key changes, free jazz freakouts, and hyperactive drum beats into his miniature prog-pop masterpieces. Nearly each one of these 18 songs has a moment of unexpected virtuosity, whether in the composition or the performance...From my description, it might seem like Flaming Swords is a difficult listen, but though it takes some time to get used to the hyperactivity, these songs are targeted missiles aimed directly towards the pleasure centers of the brain"

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

Are you calling is thots

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:08 (two years ago)

Us

😊

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:08 (two years ago)

yes

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:10 (two years ago)

was composing a Post but With U came in with some v pleasing synth squiggles so I will hold fire

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

They Hate Change is sick so far, looking forward to giving that some listening.

I thought it was going to be a different album that was posted somewhere, rap with similarly adventurous (more abrasive) beats, but now I can't remember what the name of that group was. :(

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

Injury Reserve?

i guess 0PN (lest we forget in his rich-kid era!) is the point of difference here, more going on in the sonics than This Kind Of Thing often has

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:26 (two years ago)

god help me am I quite enjoying the Soccer Mommy album

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:27 (two years ago)

confidence is a preference etc

nashwan, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:29 (two years ago)

and it's more than just 0PN, you don't make something like Unholy Affliction without a bit of cross-band ambition

aha here we go, one of my top ten hath arrived. well what to say, the future is here folks

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:30 (two years ago)

god help me am I quite enjoying the Soccer Mommy album

― imago, Wednesday, February 1, 2023 9:27 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's because it's fucking good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

Ha, this is imago day for sure. Also kind of me day but I didn't actually vote for many of these (felt like I had a bit much of DDS in previous years and needed a break from it, I will definitely return to this at a later date though).

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

confidence is a preference etc

― nashwan

Also lol

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:34 (two years ago)

12 votes! We’re moving into seriously popular waters

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

i can never tell which one's soccer mommy and which one's snail mail or whatever. this is right good tho yeah. now everyone go and listen to messe de e-102

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

my first vote to place
glad dds finally made an eoy poll here
ended up my #2

nxd, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

just the most wonderful culmination of everything they've been doing for the last few years

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:36 (two years ago)

neon memories my choice cut

nxd, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:38 (two years ago)

They Hate Change is sick so far, looking forward to giving that some listening.

I thought it was going to be a different album that was posted somewhere, rap with similarly adventurous (more abrasive) beats, but now I can't remember what the name of that group was. :(

Found it, it was Infinity Knives:
https://phantomlimblabel.bandcamp.com/album/king-cobra

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:41 (two years ago)

i thought the infinity knives/brian annals album was hella corny lol

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:44 (two years ago)

maybe that's just me, the beats were interesting but the rhymes were garden variety, sub-twitter level social commentary

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:44 (two years ago)

Hmm

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:47 (two years ago)

Yes!!!!!

My #1 is #34, higher than I could’ve hoped

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

Best dds album I’ve heard. It’s really transcended its more typical vaporwave origins and become a maximally melodic fever dream. The segue from Neon Memories into Ice Cream for Breakfast when I saw them earlier this year felt like a very ILX moment. My…number 3 I think?

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

Also Soccer Mommy >>>> Snail Mail

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

yes this is becoming rapidly abundant

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

Yesss, Jeff Parker has been on such a hot streak the last few years

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

respectfully asking Moka to please not link to any more fantano videos, that was an unpleasant surprise

na (NA), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

Pretty sure the Parker IVtet was my number one, Fievel and dds also on my list— a good day for my picks, tho wondering whether Butterss will place?!!?

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

yay for Jeff Parker, though I didn't get around to actually hearing this in 2022 so didn't vote for it. Sorry for repeating myself, but everyone should listen to Anna Butterss solo album Activities as well (which I suppose could still place now but feels unlikely) -- xpost :)

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:52 (two years ago)

I’m also here to say that AnCo started going downhill with Feels and anyone who feels otherwise can eat it. The first albums are all that matter with them afaic

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

yes feels unlikely now but then again it's on Spotify while Parker isn't

that's the first multi #1 placement

xp

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

x-post: Danse Manatee?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:54 (two years ago)

It does feel unlikely that Butterss will place, which is a shame.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:54 (two years ago)

I’m also here to say that AnCo started going downhill with Feels and anyone who feels otherwise can eat it. The first albums are all that matter with them afaic


Yes agreed, I have no idea why they decided to sound like the fucking arcade fire for a minute there

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

feels was absolutely the anco peak, but time skiffs is much closer than i ever would've thought before checking it out on a whim last summer

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

x-post: Danse Manatee?


Everything up to the EP with Vashti is dope, Feels live was so good that the record was a total letdown for me once it came out— they had been playing the songs out for a year before the record was released, and it totally tamed the unhinged nature of the live performance that left a sour taste in my mouth. AnCo a perfect example of a band that truly did decline as their production values and critical attention increased— I hated MPP, too.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:57 (two years ago)

I also voted for They Hate Change, so awesome, <3 anglophiles from Florida

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:57 (two years ago)

feels was absolutely the anco peak, but time skiffs is much closer than i ever would've thought before checking it out on a whim last summer


this is good to know, been avoiding them but will check it out based on what y’all are saying

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:59 (two years ago)

I’ve continued to follow AnCo over the years with varying levels of satisfaction but … yeah, Feels is the last time they knocked my socks off as a band.

(Panda Bear and Avey Tare solo have had moments since then, and the Deakin record was top ten for me in whatever year that was.)

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:59 (two years ago)

I didn't like the super early AnCo stuff, but I get what you're saying about Feels live being so much better than Feels on record - that tour was astounding.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:01 (two years ago)

The record is also good, though!

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:01 (two years ago)

I need to listen to this Jeff Parker more, I liked it on a first go but haven't gotten back to it.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:02 (two years ago)

respectfully asking Moka to please not link to any more fantano videos, that was an unpleasant surprise

― na (NA)

Hahahaha request heard and accepted

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:03 (two years ago)

they hate change are unquestionably influenced by uk breakbeats but take just as much from tampa jook and miami bass. it's a pretty natural mix, but one i'd never heard before

xps

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

DC my first pick to place, thought it would be higher tbh

nashwan, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:05 (two years ago)

quite funny seeing them referred to as South Londoners

nashwan, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:07 (two years ago)

Plasma is great, "Flow" is Perfume at their most magical gently bubbling warmth.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:07 (two years ago)

feels was absolutely the anco peak, but time skiffs is much closer than i ever would've thought before checking it out on a whim last summer

― sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, February 1, 2023 10:55 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

+1

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:07 (two years ago)

RIGHT. so this is the album i was referring to way earlier before today's countdown began. it's also in my top ten. it is NOT a typical new post-punk album. the vocalist is too much her own thing and the guitarist is too much his. the music is too wild, rangy, roiling to fit nicely into rock media categorisations. for illustration's sake, here is a mix compiled by the guitarist, by way of demonstrating his influences. godflesh, prurient, dead c, foetus, bathory, post-hardcore. https://worldofechomusic.com/blogs/inner-world/inner-world-027-dry-cleaning

a massive step-up from the debut too imo

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:08 (two years ago)

not only are they already masters of tension and release, one of the songs is about a tortoise

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

after yesterday's horse tie, 2 tortoise related placements in a row, you got to love it

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:10 (two years ago)

lol

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:10 (two years ago)

also figured this might be ilm's flavour of "new indie" and figured higher.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:11 (two years ago)

Wait what's the other Tortoise tie-in?

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

ga-ry

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:13 (two years ago)

How did I miss this Jeff Parker album

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:14 (two years ago)

btw big apologies to soccer mommy and their fans - just discovered i really liked 'color theory' as well. oops. they're just a really good band lol

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:15 (two years ago)

lol to the tortoise joke

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:15 (two years ago)

yes feels unlikely now but then again it's on Spotify while Parker isn't

Oh, that's how

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:16 (two years ago)

I prefer this Dry Cleaning album.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:16 (two years ago)

omfg lmao

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:16 (two years ago)

threepeat!!!!!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:16 (two years ago)

EVERYONE GETS A TORTOISE

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:17 (two years ago)

ok lol

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:17 (two years ago)

good thing Mazurek didn't put an album out this year!

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:18 (two years ago)

lol, now there's the Tortoise.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:18 (two years ago)

haha this is great

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

Could the Parker-produced Anteloper album be up next? Or was it 78'd?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

Hahahaha YES

This is a great poll day

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

seeing Dry Cleaning live tomorrow, pretty psyched

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:20 (two years ago)

Is a SAULT album 78? playing the math here

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:20 (two years ago)

nobody has guessed the 78 yet.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:21 (two years ago)

TORTOISE.

I haven't heard this album but they are damn good cats on that sleeve. Cats too low!

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:21 (two years ago)

dry cleaning -> washing and drying machines

The connections are endless.

jmm, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

Tortoises all the way down.

Glad to see Sons Of, it was in my top 10. Credit to Raymond, it was his enthusiastic posting that made me check it out.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

I'm going to suggest Soft Pink Truth got 78'd - I know there was a lot of love for it this year but we're getting to high numbers of votes... Now watch it come up next.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

xxp Wow yes there are infinite jests

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

Cheers, Tipsy!

I’m betting SPT is in the top 20.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

Also, belated to say this, but I love the Shygirl album, I voted it very high. Just a great collection of beats and tunes, and she's reliably entertaining.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:26 (two years ago)

I hoped Cloakroom (my #1) would make it, but that seems unlikely at this point.

jmm, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

i wouldn't be so sure!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

Dry Cleaning fans should check out the PVA album I nominated btw (if you like the idea of something between DC and Working Mens Club)

nashwan, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:28 (two years ago)

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imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

I'm going to suggest Soft Pink Truth got 78'd - I know there was a lot of love for it this year but we're getting to high numbers of votes... Now watch it come up next.

No way, that's top 10.

enochroot, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:31 (two years ago)

I can see it, the one before did pretty well iirc

nashwan, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:32 (two years ago)

I think I might have played this Sam Prekop album more than any other 2022 release.

enochroot, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

I hope so!

xxp

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

Time to wrap things up for the day. Hope you enjoyed imago day 2022

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:34 (two years ago)

lol, quite

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:34 (two years ago)

Ha! I think we have full imago!

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:36 (two years ago)

another towering masterpiece. only my #2 (you should hear the one that beat it!) but a longer, slower, yet no less mindmelting addition to his body of work. the future's never sounded so ancient. and for all that 'the hermit' got a lot of press, it's the other tracks that really elevate this for me, they're so wired and tragic and thrilling

imago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:37 (two years ago)

carrying all his stuff on his back like some kind of animal

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:41 (two years ago)

Thanks to the existence of podcasts I'm the proud owner of the knowledge that those are John McEntire's cats, named Jaki and Lamar (fka LaMonte).

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:45 (two years ago)

dry cleaning -> washing and drying machines

please to refrain from any slights against Mr. Fingers

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:45 (two years ago)

I'm kinda bummed the physical release for that Prekop/McEntire record was so limited, blinked and it was sold out already.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:48 (two years ago)

I've been going back through the older Ambarchi records and these two new ones are definitely my favorites (good for him, what a year). Live Hubris is pretty wild though, especially the closing track (and ending).

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:49 (two years ago)

(or wait, that was the studio version)

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:52 (two years ago)

RECAP 77-31

#76: Javiera Mena - Nocturna - 154 points - 6 votes
#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car  - 154 points - 6 votes
#75: Suede - Autofiction - 154 points - 7 votes
#74: The Garden - Horseshit on Route 66 - 162 points - 4 votes
#72: Ravyn Lenae - HYPNOS - 162 points - 6 votes
#72: Burna Boy - Love, Damini - 162 points - 6 votes
#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me - 166 points - 7 votes
#70: Stromae - Multitude - 176 points - 5 votes
#69: Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa - 177 points - 6 votes
#68: Angel Olsen - Big Time - 183 points - 6 votes
#67: Florist - Florist - 189 points - 7 votes
#66: Little Simz - NO THANK YOU - 190 points - 6 votes
#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1 - 196 points - 5 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#63: Björk - Fossora - 196 points - 10 votes
#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals - “” - 196 points - 10 votes
#62: Lambchop - The Bible - 197 points - 8 votes
#61: D. Tiffany & Roza Terenzi - Edge of Innocence - 198 points - 7 votes
#60: Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry - 201 points - 7 votes
#59: Chat Pile - God's Country - 202 points - 7 votes
#58: The Smile - A Light for Attracting Attention - 205 points - 8 votes
#57: Taylor Swift - Midnights - 206 points - 7 votes
#56: Beach House - Once Twice Melody - 207 points - 8 votes
#55: Wet Leg - Wet Leg - 209 points - 8 votes
#54: Oren Ambarchi/Johan Berthling/Andreas Werlin - Ghosted - 214 points - 8 votes
#53: Bill Orcutt - Music For Four Guitars - 216 points - 6 votes
#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance - 220 points - 8 votes
#51: Horse Lords - Comradely Objects - 220 points - 8 votes
#50: Broadcast - Maida Vale Sessions - 222 points - 7 votes
#49: Moor Mother - Jazz Codes - 223 points - 7 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#48: Miranda Lambert - Palomino - 224 points - 8 votes
#46: Mr Fingers - Around the Sun Pt 1 - 232 points - 7 votes
#46: Hatchie - Giving the World Away - 232 points - 7 votes
#45: Charli XCX - Crash - 240 points - 10 votes
#44: The Comet is Coming - Hyper-Dimensional Expansion Beam - 244 points - 10 votes
#43: Oren Ambarchi - Shebang - 246 points - 7 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#42: They Hate Change - Finally, New - 248 points - 8 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#41: Animal Collective - Time Skiffs - 249 points - 9 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#40: Fievel Is Glauque - Flaming Swords - 252 points - 9 votes
#39: Weyes Blood - And In The Darkness, Hearts Aglow - 255 points - 9 votes
#38: Shygirl - Nymph - 257 points - 9 votes
#37: Perfume - PLASMA - 262 points - 8 votes
#36: Soccer Mommy - Sometimes, Forever - 262 points - 12 votes
#35: Death's Dynamic Shroud - Darklife - 264 points - 7 votes
#34: Jeff Parker ETA IVtet - Mondays at the Enfield Tennis Academy - 276 points - 9 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#33: Dry Cleaning - Stumpwork - 289 points - 12 votes
#32: Sam Prekop & John McEntire - Sons Of - 302 points - 11 votes
#31: Richard Dawson - The Ruby Cord - 314 points - 9 votes

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:11 (two years ago)

predicting the afrobeats trifecta to place tomorrow

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:16 (two years ago)

predicting no more fun

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:19 (two years ago)

It's going to be interesting about Sault - will they all miss out due to vote splitting or is there consensus around a couple? I thought Earth and Untitled (God) were the strongest of the bunch.

aphoristical, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:27 (two years ago)

I wonder what all their points together would get. There would've been a case for nomming the 5 album drop all together, before they subsequently put them all separately on streaming/physical preorder.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

Love Sault but didn’t vote for them this year. It was a bit too much content and thought vote-splitting would affect it. A bit like cheating but would have voted for the zip file with all the albums. I don’t have my ballot around but I think I voted for the Little Simz album and the Chronixx track produced by inflo.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:43 (two years ago)

Only had one of my votes place today (Shygirl) but really enjoyed the rollout and had a number of discoveries.

Thinking about half my list will make the top 30. The two I'm unsure of (and holding out hope for) are Axel Boman and Danger Mouse/Black Thought.

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:47 (two years ago)

I voted for Axel Boman, but it feels unlikely now despite it definitely being something I think ILM would be into

v curious about how well the afropop trifecta does—I think at least one has a good chance of making the top 15. I wonder if Omah Lay got 78'd

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:53 (two years ago)

axel boman is also vote-splitting himself, no?

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:54 (two years ago)

no, I nominated them as one album and no one stopped me

(in my defense they're only split up on vinyl; on streaming and bandcamp they're one unit)

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:58 (two years ago)

this Prekop/McEntire record is v v good, thanks ILM

sleeve, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:04 (two years ago)

Seem to remember the Talaboman record doing well here so maybe there's a chance...

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:07 (two years ago)

predicting the afrobeats trifecta to place tomorrow

― sault bae (voodoo chili), 1. februar 2023 19:16 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

There's at least five more Nigerian albums that deserve to be on there, but yeah, realistically only three has got a shot at this point :(

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

this Prekop/McEntire record is v v good, thanks ILM

seconded. would almost certainly have not ever heard it otherwise.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:21 (two years ago)

So good to see the Parker and Prekop/McEntire records this high. Voted for both. I'm still trying to work out what's so captivating about the former (it's still, but not like the Necks are still; there's something stately, almost conservative, about it but the whole project transcends those potentially negative qualities). Prekop/McEntire falls like rain.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:37 (two years ago)

#44: The Comet is Coming - Hyper-Dimensional Expansion Beam: The Comet is Coming is a bit too synth-poppy for me. There's rarely enough going on for me, and the drums are too rock.
#43: Oren Ambarchi - Shebang: Good for Ambarchi! I preferred Ghosted, but this was very good as well.
#42: They Hate Change - Finally, New: Oh wow, checking videos, this sounds extremely good! I like that there's so many club beats in rap at the moment, but since Bandmanrill didn't even get nominated, I thought ILX didn't care. This is great, though!
#41: Animal Collective - Time Skiffs: My #24. I also really liked the ep's they did the last few years. They've never sounded so non-surprising before, except that, well, it was very surprising how good it was. Top five AnCo: Ark, Strawberry Jam, Centipede Hz, Sung Tongs, Time Skiffs.
#40: Fievel Is Glauque - Flaming Swords: I'm scared at yet another jazz fusion revival. Why? But okay, if it's hyper, that's at least something.
#39: Weyes Blood - And In The Darkness, Hearts Aglow: I've never been a huge fan, and thought this was boring. But it made me listen to Titanic Rising again, and now I can appreciate how much better that record is.
#38: Shygirl - Nymph: On my 'to listen' list.
#37: Perfume - PLASMA: Never found time to check this out, but if you say it's their best yet, I'll prioritize it! Love Perfume. Thanks, everyone.
#36: Soccer Mommy - Sometimes, Forever: My #20. Yes, the production is exceptional, but the songwriting is very good as well. Don't Ask Me was my shoegaze-jam of the year. Along with Alex G and a bunch of old bands proof that experimental soundscapes are back in indie rock.
#35: Death's Dynamic Shroud - Darklife: Will check out, 'maximalist' 'hyper-garbage' sounds like something for me, but this seems a bit dark and moody at first try?
#34: Jeff Parker ETA IVtet - Mondays at the Enfield Tennis Academy: This seemed like something that would go very high up on my list, but I could never find anywhere to stream it :( My Jeff Parker vote was for Anteloper.
#33: Dry Cleaning - Stumpwork: Indie with great lyrics is rarely for me for obvious reason, so I've never really got the hype.
#32: Sam Prekop & John McEntire - Sons Of: Thought this would be for me, but I spent most of my synth jam listening time with Sofie Birch.
#31: Richard Dawson - The Ruby Cord: An album a year was already too much for me to keep up with, and now he's making double albums? Also, I saw him live with Circle at Roskilde, and was kinda dissapointed. But if you say it's good, I'll give it a chance, I've loved some of his earlier stuff.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

oooh I missed Darklife placing. that album is incredible though maybe too much of a good thing. it's actually overwhelming how good it is sometimes.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:47 (two years ago)

if we’re doing ballot status updates & predictions/expectations:

I’ve had three place so far (Burna, Stromae and Kabza).

as for what’s to come, I consider another 11 dead certs (including a certain trifecta), and there’s two more that I haven’t quite ruled out yet, which leaves me with 9 albums that will leave this rollout unheralded (and no surprises there, I might add).

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:49 (two years ago)

voted for Comet is Coming and Death's Dynamic Shroud from today, both amazing albums with a very specific sound, the kind of albums that motivate me to keep seeking out new music.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:56 (two years ago)

looking at my ballot, I figure there's one sure thing and two possibles left that could place

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:58 (two years ago)

0/47 for me, absolutely smashing it. not heard any of the last batch apart from the dry cleaning, which i didn't like much. guess I've got some catching up to do

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:59 (two years ago)

I don't know too many of these albums but can we all agree there are some truly shitty band names on this list?

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:00 (two years ago)

hmm, not looking great for Jockstrap is it

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:01 (two years ago)

I've had 4 place and pretty sure 9 to come. Probably the unhiviest I've been with one of these.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:02 (two years ago)

"fievel is glaque" always makes me thing of the "zendaya is meechie" meme video

na (NA), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:04 (two years ago)

Death's Dynamic Shroud and Prekop/McEntire - two records from outside my normal wheelhouse that i just adore. wouldn't have heard either w/o ILM, so thank you all for existing.

(i didn't vote. i always wish i had after the fact.)

alpine static, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:05 (two years ago)

This Prekop/McEntire sounds like the sort of thing I love

Thanks ILM

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:12 (two years ago)

Also They Hate Change sounds great

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:13 (two years ago)

Sons Of is rather good. I was skeptical at first, assuming people were overrating it based on the creators, but I think if someone told me this was a new Legowelt or something I'd still enjoy it

glad people are liking They Hate Change!

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:16 (two years ago)

yea I really like the Sons Of. I think it actually doesn't sound like something those two would come up with - it sounds like a new artist to me.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:19 (two years ago)

that was actually the source of my skepticism—would people really care about this album if it was credited to a less surprising artist?—but whatever, it's good!

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:26 (two years ago)

I'm kinda bummed the physical release for that Prekop/McEntire record was so limited, blinked and it was sold out already.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, February 1, 2023 12:48 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Did you want the CD? Redscroll Records has one.

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/2363421109?ev=bp_det

Evan, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:46 (two years ago)

I don't think Plasma is _the_ best Perfume album but it's v good and better than their previous two. My opinion is that they started out with three 10/10 albums, though, so hard to beat that.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 21:29 (two years ago)

ILM hivemind otm: Shebang > Ghosted

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 21:29 (two years ago)

There are definitely a lot of listeners who checked out the Prekop/McEntire album who don't otherwise listen to much in the way of dance music or modular synth jams, and a lot of producers who would never have a record on Thrill Jockey, but there it is.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:21 (two years ago)

that's a better way of putting it yeah

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:24 (two years ago)

Plus, those cats are cute.

Chris L, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:32 (two years ago)

Didn't love this Comet is Coming record as much as I did Trust in the Lifeforce but honestly there's no Comet is Coming record I'm not gonna think belongs in the countdown

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:47 (two years ago)

There's a lot of stuff in this batch I liked (not least Oren Ambarchi and They Hate Change) or was conscious of not having heard enough. (eg. Comet, Prekop/McEntire, Perfume, Richard Dawson.) So that's cool. And I gave actual points to Fievel Is Glauque and Dry Cleaning. So any sense of alienation from ILM will have to wait until the top 30, I guess lol.

Pretty sure I didn't hear a single second of Soccer Mommy or AnCo this time around though. I guess I can't rule out the possibility that this is the year where I finally become a fan, so best check...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 23:24 (two years ago)

The one track streaming from that Jeff Parker ETA IVtet record bowled me over.

Indexed, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 23:26 (two years ago)

This is the least alienated I’ve felt from an ILX EOY Album poll rollout in many years. It’s uncanny.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 23:31 (two years ago)

It's not hard to see why Soccer Mommy vs Snail Mail comparisons are a thing. They may even have converged a little since last time I checked?! I seen to find about 2 Snail Mail songs per LP way more moving than expected but otherwise remain ambivalent. Perhaps, with the lyrics in front of me, I can aim for a similar relationship with SM. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:25 (two years ago)

There’s still some surprises to be had in the top 30. Just cross-checked with albumoftheyear and there’s even 2 albums in our top 10 which although well reviewed are virtually non-existent on other eoy lists.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:27 (two years ago)

YES! They Hate Change made it (only one from my ballot to make it but still)! Today is the best day so far. So much good stuff today - Shygirl, Oren Ambarchi's other album (surprised and happy about both making it) and the Sam Prekop record too.

octobeard, Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:39 (two years ago)

Really digging this year's list so far

octobeard, Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:39 (two years ago)

xxp giving me hope for Shabason & Krgovich gosh darn you

(fwiw wherever it is might be a good indicator of how much building up a little steam in the voting thread can do)

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:45 (two years ago)

I am also more than pleased with this year, though I still think Spoon were and remain an incredibly boring band.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 February 2023 01:10 (two years ago)

#44: The Comet is Coming - Hyper-Dimensional Expansion Beam - haven't heard this at all
#43: Oren Ambarchi - Shebang - delightfully shimmering
#42: They Hate Change - Finally, New - this was pretty cool but i didn't spend anywhere enough time with it, will have to come back to it now
#41: Animal Collective - Time Skiffs - their best in a long time and probably one of their strongest front-to-back, enjoyed the exotica textures
#40: Fievel Is Glauque - Flaming Swords - just a little too proggy for me to really love
#39: Weyes Blood - And In The Darkness, Hearts Aglow - so smoothed out that there's nothing to grab onto at all here
#38: Shygirl - Nymph - i'm sure i gave this a few tries but i remember nothing about it
#37: Perfume - PLASMA - voted for this, a great return to form while still pushing forward (i love the new city pop influence)
#36: Soccer Mommy - Sometimes, Forever - voted for this, about as good as alt rock gets. impeccably produced (the best thing opn has been involved with in a long time) and nails everything it goes for from shoegaze to the third worship of "unholy affliction"
#35: Death's Dynamic Shroud - Darklife - loved the singles leading up to this but it ended up being a bit too much
#34: Jeff Parker ETA IVtet - Mondays at the Enfield Tennis Academy - haven't heard this at all
#33: Dry Cleaning - Stumpwork - this one moved into more subtle textural stuff that moved away from what i kinda liked about the first, not really for me
#32: Sam Prekop & John McEntire - Sons Of - pleasant modular synth noodling but nothing that really sticks with me
#31: Richard Dawson - The Ruby Cord - my #2, an immense masterpiece, less his 'future' album and more 'ruins of an ancient advanced civilisation'? the way he's subtly incorporated synths into his medieval folk this time is really nice

feels like there's a more on the avant/jazz instrumental axis (yes that's broad but you know what i mean) than usual this year?

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 01:38 (two years ago)

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Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 February 2023 02:02 (two years ago)

Love that my phone autocorrected that in a most embarrassing way lmfao

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 February 2023 02:03 (two years ago)

Ruby Cord, Shebang, Versions of Modern Performance and Hyper-Dimensional Expansion Beam were all good albums that just didn't make my ballot for one reason or another. I'm not sure I ever heard all of the Orcutt, strangely! Trying a track from Parker now. So far it grabs me more than any earlier solo projects I've heard by him.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2023 02:39 (two years ago)

Hm, I actually love that sample 23 min track from the Parker IVtet that's available on Bandcamp. Will definitely listen to the whole thing, probably buy it.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2023 02:58 (two years ago)

I think that's the only legal way to listen to the whole thing :)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 03:08 (two years ago)

Orcutt is nice enough but I want a bit more compositionally. Steve Reich and King Crimson comparisons do him no favours there.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2023 03:44 (two years ago)

I think that's the only legal way to listen to the whole thing :)

― change display name (Jordan)

I'm fairly sure it's legal to go round to a friend's house and listen to an album together, right?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2023 03:52 (two years ago)

As long as you don't remember it when you leave.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 February 2023 03:57 (two years ago)

i think the four guitar overdubbing approach on the new Orcutt limits him compositionally, he has to stay locked into a tempo and pattern more. You might prefer his earlier guitar albums which are looser, though Reich and King Crimson are still weird comparisons. I like his albums with Chris Corsano (I’m excited to see them play later this month)

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 04:00 (two years ago)

Four so far for me--Moor Mother, They Hate Change, Dry Cleaning, Richard Dawson--with two more prob in the top 20 & then two more potentials w ever-diminshing odds of showing up

everdose of cloverness (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 February 2023 06:12 (two years ago)

I can't check right now (though I did save my ballot) but I think I may have been the #1 vote for Shebang, and that I also voted for Soccer Mommy and maybe Perfume. I also liked The Comet Is Coming, They Hate Change, Animal Collective, Dry Cleaning and Sam Prekop/John McEntire, but I don't think they made it onto my ballot.

Generally speaking I agree with ufo's assessments re this run.

I feel like in 2022 my connections to specific pieces of music were generally weaker, all other things being equal, than in previous years, which I mostly attribute to spreading my limited available time too thinly: so many albums that sounded really fascinating on first exposure but which I barely returned to, because I was always listening to some other new thing.

So I'm toying with a resolution to listen to less music (not in terms of hours but in terms of material) in 2023.

But then i'm like "oh wow it really sounds like I should have listened to The Ruby Cord." shrugemoji

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2023 08:01 (two years ago)

lol the comet is coming album is not really what i expected from my vague memory of what they sound like, it's so edm at times! really ridiculous music lol. the last two tracks are the best

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 08:29 (two years ago)

also listened to loraine james (really lovely) and horsegirl (still don't quite understand why anyone's that excited about them but they have a few pretty good tracks, maybe they'll do something really cool in the future) today

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 08:56 (two years ago)

There’s still some surprises to be had in the top 30. Just cross-checked with albumoftheyear and there’s even 2 albums in our top 10 which although well reviewed are virtually non-existent on other eoy lists.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:27 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

ILM has officially turned on Bad Mode 😎

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 08:56 (two years ago)

lol the comet is coming album is not really what i expected from my vague memory of what they sound like, it's so edm at times! really ridiculous music lol. the last two tracks are the best

― ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 08:29 (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

is this really any surprise given how much I like it lol

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 08:57 (two years ago)

i mean, ridiculous music is expected just not necessarily in that form

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:04 (two years ago)

second last track The Hammer maybe the most ridiculous thing on the album, that insane prog break at the end. glad u approve

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:06 (two years ago)

those two were more of the sort of ridiculousness i was expecting really

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:53 (two years ago)

not entirely sure Sons Of is for me but I did just play a game of online chess at 89% accuracy to it, so that's something

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 10:31 (two years ago)

There’s still some surprises to be had in the top 30. Just cross-checked with albumoftheyear and there’s even 2 albums in our top 10 which although well reviewed are virtually non-existent on other eoy lists.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka)

Guessing (hoping) that one of those is Lad Ash

groovypanda, Thursday, 2 February 2023 11:04 (two years ago)

Congratulations on your game, imago

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 February 2023 11:04 (two years ago)

Perfume is more enjoyable but I am playing worse chess. I wonder if there's a correlation lol

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 11:18 (two years ago)

Listening to the Shygirl album right now, and wow it's good!

Frederik B, Thursday, 2 February 2023 11:32 (two years ago)

ok Sons of is grand

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2023 11:38 (two years ago)

Interesting, Tim F— I felt kind of the opposite about 2022, and this is the first year in the past four or so that more than one of my ballot choices has made the 77. Though I think part of this is that I was also quite broke for much of 2022, so my spending on music had to be judicious and very careful— it allowed me to focus on and really listen to new records so I could actually appreciate them.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 February 2023 11:54 (two years ago)

Also for all those waiting to purchase the Parker IVtet record— the songs that aren’t available as samples on the Bandcamp page only improve one’s impression of the record as a whole. The third track is my favorite.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 February 2023 11:55 (two years ago)

think i must just be allergic to animal collective

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 12:16 (two years ago)

same. Needed an antihistamine today for the first time in weeks, they might be in the air!

xps Wish I could've gotten on this year's jpop bandwagon (Bad Mode) but it just doesn't do it for me. I expect it to place but I'll be surprised by top 10!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 12:38 (two years ago)

Thanks to the existence of podcasts I'm the proud owner of the knowledge that those are John McEntire's cats, named Jaki and Lamar (fka LaMonte).

actually bums me out a little. I liked thinking that one was Prekop's and one was McEntire's (the Sons Of the artists) and that they got together for a laundry party.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 12:44 (two years ago)

“ Also for all those waiting to purchase the Parker IVtet record— the songs that aren’t available as samples on the Bandcamp page only improve one’s impression of the record as a whole.”

Hard agree

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 February 2023 12:48 (two years ago)

Enjoyed Shebang as much as Ghosted, very nice for one artist to offer two fully-formed facets of their work in the same year. I'm interested in hearing more of this long-form live-feel jazzy type of minimalism.
They Hate Change was sold upthread as ass-shaking, head-nodding, bass-heavy, boundary-pushing and more. And it's good cloud rap escaped from 2010 ? That shit's lukewarm. I'll say the prod is nice though and gives the style a new shine.

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 12:58 (two years ago)

yeah just won another good game to Shebang. the more num-nummy the jazzpiffle, the more I can zone into other things, or something. still, can't really condone any of this sort of thing for active listening but as the board's representative for having a pathetic attention span i would say that

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:06 (two years ago)

Okay lads, not sure if I'll be able to check in at all for these last two days, so GOOD LUCK ILX.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:11 (two years ago)

thank u

xp What you playing?

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:14 (two years ago)

Imago discovers ambient music, poll delivers

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:16 (two years ago)

xp largely e2-e4

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

won game? wot?

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:22 (two years ago)

chess. i find playing chess to be a good way to listen to music

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:24 (two years ago)

Ah cool. And I haven't heard "E2-E4", will play

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:24 (two years ago)

i'm not listening to 'e2-e4', i'm playing it as my opening move! i am however listening to a lot of things that are heavily in its debt, probably

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:26 (two years ago)

As I listen, I'll think about what it would be like to play chess.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:27 (two years ago)

he probably wrote it as something relaxing to play along to. in the club. i am very smart

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:30 (two years ago)

okay now i AM listening to 'e2-e4'. save us moka

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:33 (two years ago)

I listened to E2-E4 for the first time the other day when I heard "EDM pionneer" and I was very pleasantly surprised. I had always assumed it was a boring Tangerine Dream style 50 minutes synth suite.

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:35 (two years ago)

"Aufbruch 1" goes!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:36 (two years ago)

The first piece is a thing of delicate beauty. Practically sounds like ambient techno.

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:39 (two years ago)

OMG, how did I not realise -- given that cover -- that E2-E4 was a chess reference? LOL

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:44 (two years ago)

Hello!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:47 (two years ago)

won a goddamn masterpiece to gottsching. my eyes are opened. let's go for a walk now lol

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:48 (two years ago)

Is it a chess reference or a gottsching reference?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:49 (two years ago)

braggin'

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:50 (two years ago)

Oh wait lol it’s too early in the morning for me. Thought we were talking about DDS

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:52 (two years ago)

Thought for a second DDS had a song called Messe de E2-E4 and that was both a chess and a gottsching reference.

No idea what Messe de E-102 but it messed my mind.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:55 (two years ago)

Let me take a shower to wake up and we’ll start.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:57 (two years ago)

lol, don't pander to my imagination like that

assume e-102 refers to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartrazine

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:59 (two years ago)

Tapping the arrow keys through the moves made some satisfying sounds

Is someone going to the dentist?

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:05 (two years ago)

I presumed it was a sonic reference

nxd, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:08 (two years ago)

OMG, how did I not realise -- given that cover -- that E2-E4 was a chess reference? LOL

Ha never got this until now either.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:12 (two years ago)

xp oh shit you're right, esp given lyrics

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:13 (two years ago)

here i am on my food additives bullshit

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:13 (two years ago)

i think the four guitar overdubbing approach on the new Orcutt limits him compositionally, he has to stay locked into a tempo and pattern more. You might prefer his earlier guitar albums which are looser, though Reich and King Crimson are still weird comparisons. I like his albums with Chris Corsano (I’m excited to see them play later this month)

I'll keep an eye out. I like Flowers-Corsano.

Pleasantly surprised by Suede as well and like Florist's overall sound.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:14 (two years ago)

“Originally written by James Webster for Rebecca Peake, Messe de E-102 is inspired by the character of E-102γ from Sonic Adventure, a robot created by series antagonist Dr. Eggman who turns against his creator and murders his brother robots before sacrificing himself to free the animals powering them.”

It’s a sonic reference apparently

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:16 (two years ago)

whatever it is I'M HOPING IT SHOWS UP NEXT WEEK

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:17 (two years ago)

lol yeah if you ever heard something on a dds album and wondered "where the hell they'd get THAT from?" there's like an 80% chance it's from a Sonic game

frogbs, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:18 (two years ago)

there's one

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:19 (two years ago)

aw nice start to the day!

almost makes up for Nabozo claiming They Hate Change sounds like cloud rap lmao wtf

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:20 (two years ago)

yeah sorry do not hear that even a little

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:27 (two years ago)

otm

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:27 (two years ago)

i get it tho, i also sometimes like to make snap judgment on entire albums based on the first 30 seconds of the first song

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:29 (two years ago)

anyway, the first 30 seconds of “money & love” are some of the best seconds on the whole wizzy album

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:30 (two years ago)

lol I did listen to the entire album and the delivery is cloud rap from beginning to end

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

at least it's my closest reference point

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

yes the famous cloud rapper sonny cheeba of camp lo

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:34 (two years ago)

xp

[re: Wizkid] ha I had never really concentrated on that opening before but it is really good! Conversely (?) last time I listened to MLLE, final track "Frames" was my favourite

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:35 (two years ago)

i am not this board's hip-hop expert but i put Blatant Localism back on just now and these kids are surely not courting the abyss via an autotuned opiate haze

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

"frames" is lovely! i'll probably never prefer mlle to made in lagos, but it's a confident and surprising batch of songs, an easy vote for me

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

Didn't vote for Classic Objects but it is an absolutely lovely record, and I suspect people who had a hard time finding a way into her music in the past will be surprised by its relative simplicity. In places, reminds me a bit of the Cassandra Jenkins record from last year.

also re: e2-e4! brilliant! somehow never realized that either.

So I'm toying with a resolution to listen to less music (not in terms of hours but in terms of material) in 2023.

But then i'm like "oh wow it really sounds like I should have listened to The Ruby Cord." shrugemoji

― Tim F, Thursday, February 2, 2023 2:01 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've been grappling with this for years. Part of me longs for the days when I knew every word to every track on my favorite 10 albums of the moment. There just are not enough hours! Usually play my #1 ~15-20 times, and there's a big drop off from there. Not uncommon for my #25 album to have only been played a few times.

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:38 (two years ago)

another year, another 'has hval gotten less annoying'

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:39 (two years ago)

not to belabor the they hate change thing any further, but if there's anything that "blatant localism" recalls for me, it's "elevators (me & you)"

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:39 (two years ago)

gonna cautiously say this is keeping me listening, zoning out the lyrics tho

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:45 (two years ago)

Tim's post resonated with me too. I would like my listening to be more focused this year, though that does mean deciding it's fine if you never listen to an acclaimed Jenny Hval album and therefore can't have an opinion about it

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:49 (two years ago)

oh wow that's surprisingly low!

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:49 (two years ago)

one more kodak black poetry slam would've gotten it into the top 20

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:51 (two years ago)

Listening to less but what I do listen to getting more time/focus has been an ongoing personal trajectory. The downside is that when these polls come around there’s a feeling of having missed out, but then I remind myself that this doesn’t have to be a race, and that the music will be there to be heard whenever.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

i voted for it. the highs are incredibly high ("rich spirit," "purple hearts," "mother | sober")

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

i forgot to vote for this record but i really intended to. i know this sounds ridiculous but for me it’s his best since good kid

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

I mean, I only listened to this once and didn't really enjoy it, so I guess I shouldn't have been surprised...but that's also true for the two albums I assume are head-to-head for first place

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

I completely understand that Hval's musings and spoken word are not for everyone, but there's so many facets to her music, abstract and concrete, pop and meta, nature and culture, big words and simplicity that she manages to put so clearly in music. And last but not least, preciousness but not without humor.

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

i nommed late and noticed that weirdly no one had put Kendrick's album in yet, so i did. But didn't vote for it in the end. Voted "Purple Hearts". Didn't really have the attention span for the album often. Yet.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:58 (two years ago)

Mr Morale didn't really stay with me but damn "Father Time" wrecked me

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:59 (two years ago)

So is it his New Jersey

Nabozo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

going back to wizkid, the 808 sound on "balance" is so good

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

I love how uneven and ugly this album is.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

also the wobbling, sliding bass on "2 sugar"

xp to me!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

No #1's pretty surprising

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:02 (two years ago)

"Rich Spirit" has become my favorite Kendrick song.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:02 (two years ago)

“Rich Spirit” might be my favorite KL song. Maybe not his best lyrics but the production is so good. Sounds with so much space and cold, mmm like being inside a spaceship!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:02 (two years ago)

Wow yeah that is lower than I expected. I had this fairly high on my ballot, found myself listening to it surprisingly a lot considering how much there is to take in.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:03 (two years ago)

def need to come back to this, my 1 and only listen was uneven sure but plenty to like

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

boom

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

i also love "rich spirit," and i suspect we might have a chance to talk about it in next week's poll

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

wait 1 or 2 #1's?

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

Damn that's low for KL. I can see why altho worth noting I could reel off a different set of highlights than mentioned above ('N95', 'Savior', 'Auntie Diaries') and my first listen to it on headphones was intense but great and then like Gavin went back to it more than expected so voted it high.

nashwan, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:06 (two years ago)

ah damn, I should have voted for this! nearly did. how is it this low lol

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:06 (two years ago)

"auntie diaries" is a song i'll happily never hear again

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:08 (two years ago)

Bad Mode is another album I listened to at the beginning of the year and thought it was nice and that I'd revisit it at some point. I only went back to it about a month ago and it just hit me. Ended up as my number four. Just a really soothing and gorgeous record throughout. Hoping Somewhere Near Marseilles does well next week.

The Kendrick album is one I'm still yet to have that second listen.

kitchen person, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:15 (two years ago)

So is it his New Jersey

― Nabozo, Thursday, February 2, 2023 10:00 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Even if it's not as enjoyable as his previous albums, it definitely doesn't feel like an attempt to cynically replicate them.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:17 (two years ago)

kendrick way too low.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

wait 1 or 2 #1's?

― maf you one two (maffew12)

2 #1’s!

Wouldn’t be a poll with me helping without a minor fuckup in the scores lol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

good goin hikki

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

is it me or has there been a LOT of this kind of thing this year lol

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

Iirc Hikaru was the placeholder album I used for the template and I forgot to change that #1 votes when modifying it

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:24 (two years ago)

Kendrick's album would have been on my list for sure when it first came out (and theres some undeniably great stuff on it) but it gets wearying and a bit of a chore to sit through after a few listens. There's only so much "im going to therapy" rap that I can take tbh.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:27 (two years ago)

Google shows me that "hikki" is short for the Japanese term for shut-in, in addition to Hikaru Utada. Was not trying to insult you, Moka, thanks again for the work!!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

buncha hikkis playin chess n listenin to reichian repetition music

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:32 (two years ago)

bitchin hikkis

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

I only listened to Mr. Morale in full a few times, a bit too draggy and navel-gazey. I get that he has a lot to process, but his processing isn't as engaging this time around imo. (The only Kendrick I voted for this year isn't even on the album.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:34 (two years ago)

It's been said but this poll is rad

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:40 (two years ago)

the 2nd track on bajascillators is perfect

c u (crüt), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:40 (two years ago)

cool that kendrick basically succeeded in oversharing to the point that people stopped caring.

he is not your savior.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:43 (two years ago)

I can't really get fully on board with S&K-type stuff, but I approve of it becoming prime ILMbait. Northern european women singing over 80s disco-y synthpop was getting pretty tired at any rate

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:44 (two years ago)

Nice! This is a good example to show campaigning works. I'd never heard of them until the nomination/campaigning threads and checked them out because of the Blue Nile comparisons. Kind of makes a nice companion to the Westerman, Eddie Chacon and Better Person albums from 2020 which I still go back to a lot. The production is incredible and the songs grow every time I play it. I should have put it higher.

kitchen person, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:45 (two years ago)

Nice! I didn't think this was placing. 13 votes off a mention in the sophistipop thread and a little noise in the Voting thread. Believe in your dreams!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:47 (two years ago)

yeah i didn't become aware of the shagason+krgovich material until campaigning began, but it was an immediate hit. i'm still in my feelings about kendrick being so low but i voted for at scaramouche (not over kendrick tho lol), so not too mad.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:48 (two years ago)

this album was really lovely, and kitchen person's list of companions is otm, tho i'd add sandro perri's in another life album and of course kaputt. it draws from a similar sonic template as kaputt, but instead of commenting on the listlessness of modern life, shabason and krgovich prefer to focus on life's simple pleasures (i am also happy with my little dog)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:50 (two years ago)

new shabason/krgovich fans should check out fresh pepper, shabason's collaboration with singer andre ethier (not the former dodgers outfielder), and the two shabason, krgovich, and harris albums (my personal fave is philadelphia)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:52 (two years ago)

"auntie diaries" is a song i'll happily never hear again

― sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, February 2, 2023 8:08 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i thought this song was kinda beautiful idk

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:52 (two years ago)

Great year for minimalism (can't speak for maximalism).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:52 (two years ago)

good observation re:at scaramouche— it's very content music. every photo i see of joeseph shabason, he's smiling. not always big, not always immediately noticeable. but always content. dude definitely has his vibe calibrated.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:53 (two years ago)

Shabason plays on In Another Life iirc!

He's popping up in a lot of places for me lately

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:53 (two years ago)

utada record is way too fuckin low

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:53 (two years ago)

He also played on Kaputt!

Chris L, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:55 (two years ago)

not sure Shabason & Krgovich is for me (will need to listen more) but diggging their use of That Motorik Beat

going back to wizkid, the 808 sound on "balance" is so good

i don't think that's an 808.

stirmonster, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:55 (two years ago)

I liked Shabason's Anne from a few years ago. Couldn't get into this one

c u (crüt), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:56 (two years ago)

xp perhaps mentioned but shabason also plays on kaputt

his aytche album from 2017 also very good

this is a great poll!

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:56 (two years ago)

Great year for minimalism (can't speak for maximalism).

― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:52 (twelve seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

always a great year for maximalism, far from the eoy countdown :p

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:56 (two years ago)

new shabason/krgovich fans should check out fresh pepper, shabason's collaboration with singer andre ethier (not the former dodgers outfielder), and the two shabason, krgovich, and harris albums (my personal fave is philadelphia)

― sault bae (voodoo chili)

I'll definitely be checking out more of their stuff. I always think I've done a decent job of keeping up with new albums, but then I often discover some of my favourites of the year after the year has ended thanks to this poll and the nomination process. It's always really cool when that happens.

kitchen person, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:58 (two years ago)

and the two shabason, krgovich, and harris albums (my personal fave is philadelphia)

second this. i went backwards after loving the new one so much and these are definitely worthwhile. florence is basically an excellent ambient/kankyo ongaku record and i've put it on to fall asleep to many times recently!

also i loved "auntie diaries" but i understand the sentiment of leaving it be. i talked about this a little on the proper mr morale topic: it hits too close for comfort, but not in a way that offends me. maybe a bit too poignant? sick beat in any case.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:58 (two years ago)

Like it or not, "808" is used as an umbrella term for basically any electronic bass sound with a decay now.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

i don't like ;-)

stirmonster, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:00 (two years ago)

good album, le bon getting a bit less weird but i don't hate it

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:04 (two years ago)

Like it or not, "808" is used as an umbrella term for basically any electronic bass sound with a decay now.

― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, February 2, 2023 10:59 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't like ;-)

― stirmonster, Thursday, February 2, 2023 11:00 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i listen to a lot of modern rap and it's almost always an 808 lol - force of habit.

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

I like Le Bon's work but this album not for me.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:08 (two years ago)

I'm another S&K voter who only learned about them in the campaigning thread. 25 is a nice spot.

Cate Le Bon otoh I bought on release day. High on my ballot. Wish it had been higher here, but 24 is acceptable.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:14 (two years ago)

excellent

exactly 10 disciples it turns out (subject to revision next week)

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:14 (two years ago)

nice. I'm a new 1

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

I remember being intrigued by the super-restrained vocals and wonky synth (!) in "In The Middle Of The Day" quite a few months back but, yeah, again, I'm not sure I grasped that there was a corresponding S+K LP before the noms playlist. And it just sounded better with repeated exposure, so an easy inclusion amongst an unweighted 25.

Two in a row for me! I listened to the Le Bon A LOT this time last year but then kinda stopped. Was delighted to find last month that I hadn't, in fact, worn it out as feared.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

i put S&K in the unranked portion of my ballot— album just sounds right

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:18 (two years ago)

Too low! My #1. A masterpiece.

Frederik B, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:19 (two years ago)

Krgovich has been on my radar since being like a touring member of Mount Eerie in 2008. it's the first record of his that's really clicked with me

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:19 (two years ago)

a lot of pretty stuff though that i should give another chance

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

Pompeii! My number one <3

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

the songs, the voice, the guitar sound, the “sound and vision” saxophone

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

Asake too low, but hey, it's ilm

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:22 (two years ago)

asake too low, but i feel like he has better things in store in the future. the album was so short!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

Tried but couldn't get excited about Alvvays. This position seems much more reasonable than its top-5 placing on many other lists.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

did enjoy 'Pomeranian Spinster' in the noms playlist but not got round to the whole lp

nashwan, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

I have a haircut appointment right now. Will leave you with #21 and I’ll resume 20-16 in 30mins or so.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:26 (two years ago)

I was shocked at how good the Alwayys album was, thought their previous stuff was OK

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:30 (two years ago)

Utada's having a bit of a resurgence on many fronts. Prior to Bad Mode, in 2021 One Last Kiss was a big hit off an anime, like in the old days, establishing her current appeal both with the mainstream and nerds, who embraced the Utada sound so much with songs like Simple and Clean for Kingdom Hearts many years ago. Then the album hits and is a commercial success in Japan and without comparison the most globally visible album release of her career. THEN a new JP TV show based off her songs boosts First Love, the lead single from the best-selling album of all time in Japan, to top of the charts in many Asian countries.

Anyway the album is amazing and so many things at once

abcfsk, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:32 (two years ago)

As a fan (and voter) of both of these, their placements are about right

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:32 (two years ago)

couldn't hear what alvvays' point of difference was here

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:34 (two years ago)

imago have you listened to Asake? I've been curious what you would think of it

I wasn't mad about its placement, but below Alvvays is some bs

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:38 (two years ago)

working rn alas but first thing when i'm free!!

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

alvvays album is good, sorry to the haters

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:40 (two years ago)

i can't get it through my head that alvvays is canadian, in my head they're from sweden or denmark

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:41 (two years ago)

slide The Beths in at #20 and let's just knock out the world's best pop bands three in a row

alpine static, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:45 (two years ago)

Beths top 10 for sure !!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

THEN a new JP TV show based off her songs boosts First Love, the lead single from the best-selling album of all time in Japan, to top of the charts in many Asian countries.

Didn't realize this. TV influences the pop charts in Japan to a nuts degree.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

yay for Asake tbh, of course he's too low

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

Utada album passed me by and sounds excellent

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

i can't get it through my head that alvvays is canadian, in my head they're from sweden or denmark

eh bud do you even Rankin Family??

to the sentiment somewhere above... yeah, my #16. Highly enjoyable.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

The Cate Le Bon is decent, but ended up not voting for it because it felt a bit too much like leftovers from Reward. I'd like to hear her mix things up a bit more.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

i would simply not accuse somebody of being an old soul

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

my 5th and definitely final vote to place has gotten gratifyingly high btw, got a feeling it might be up soon

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

in my top 5.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

He got it more right this time than ever.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

well i didn't vote for this, but i did enjoy it, some of the early tracks especially are p wild

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:07 (two years ago)

I like the musical settings but as much as I try BB just doesn't do anything for me as a performer. I recognize this as a "me" problem, since he's one of the biggest stars on the planet.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

conversely i am close to amazed that one of the biggest stars on the planet is this musically adventurous as i'd firmly expect that to not be the case

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

I'm always pleasantly surprised when I hear a Bad Bunny track, but still his voice annoys me

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:13 (two years ago)

his tone repels me and i cannot get into this album, try as i have.
i like despues de la playa tho'.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:14 (two years ago)

The Lucrecia Dalt is a great record and a big find from the nominees for me. Strange brew of familiar elements and it sounds amazing, would like to say more when I have a chance.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

Funny, I avoided this because I found what I knew if her previous work to be…not to my taste, despite certain well-known predilections of mine toward noise and experiment. Will have to check this out!!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:22 (two years ago)

un verano sin ti is brilliant, pure ear candy. lots of people on the internet saying that it's "bloated" are missing the point imo.

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

it me or has there been a LOT of this kind of thing this year lol

it's the frankly annoying careerist hacks quirked up awkward pandering random ass transparently manipulative sounds glooped onto a DAW-ification of ILM

alpine static, Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:34 (two years ago)

been hot and cold on mr. billy through the years but this really spoke to me. my #6

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

yah this is v good

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:36 (two years ago)

just got into this album this month; it's fucking dope

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:36 (two years ago)

all of his albums kind of blur together to me but they are all great

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:37 (two years ago)

listened to church first but this felt clearly the better of the two. elucid's album last year was really good as well, worth hearing

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:38 (two years ago)

my dumb thoughts on this one: "billy woods is an astonishing wordsmith, crafting bars that can collapse hundreds of years of traumatic history into a single couplet. He’s at his best when he’s shining a light on the grimiest aspects of our society, and our society is grimy enough for multiple albums per year, all of them good, usually created in tandem with a producer. Aethiopes, produced in full by underground hero Preservation, is woods’ grimiest and greatest yet, packed with an array of industrial instrumentals that grind like the gears of a lurching, lumbering, ill-intentioned contraption."

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:42 (two years ago)

what he said!

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:48 (two years ago)

Billy Woods is so awesome, great album, didn’t dig into him until the ILM thread came about

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:50 (two years ago)

I didn’t vote for Woods - none of his record have fully clicked for me - but he can be amazing in bites and it’s good to see this

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

Good album. I don't return to it often but when I do it's a keeper.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

One of my best friends keeps telling me this is one of his favorite albums of 2022. I should probably give it a full listen, I haven't been in the right mood and the few songs I've heard are pleasant enough but not my style.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:00 (two years ago)

billy woods album totally rules. probably my most listened to over the last few weeks.

stirmonster, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

RECAP 77-16

#76: Javiera Mena - Nocturna - 154 points - 6 votes
#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car  - 154 points - 6 votes
#75: Suede - Autofiction - 154 points - 7 votes
#74: The Garden - Horseshit on Route 66 - 162 points - 4 votes
#72: Ravyn Lenae - HYPNOS - 162 points - 6 votes
#72: Burna Boy - Love, Damini - 162 points - 6 votes
#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me - 166 points - 7 votes
#70: Stromae - Multitude - 176 points - 5 votes
#69: Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa - 177 points - 6 votes
#68: Angel Olsen - Big Time - 183 points - 6 votes
#67: Florist - Florist - 189 points - 7 votes
#66: Little Simz - NO THANK YOU - 190 points - 6 votes
#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1 - 196 points - 5 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#63: Björk - Fossora - 196 points - 10 votes
#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals - “” - 196 points - 10 votes
#62: Lambchop - The Bible - 197 points - 8 votes
#61: D. Tiffany & Roza Terenzi - Edge of Innocence - 198 points - 7 votes
#60: Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry - 201 points - 7 votes
#59: Chat Pile - God's Country - 202 points - 7 votes
#58: The Smile - A Light for Attracting Attention - 205 points - 8 votes
#57: Taylor Swift - Midnights - 206 points - 7 votes
#56: Beach House - Once Twice Melody - 207 points - 8 votes
#55: Wet Leg - Wet Leg - 209 points - 8 votes
#54: Oren Ambarchi/Johan Berthling/Andreas Werlin - Ghosted - 214 points - 8 votes
#53: Bill Orcutt - Music For Four Guitars - 216 points - 6 votes
#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance - 220 points - 8 votes
#51: Horse Lords - Comradely Objects - 220 points - 8 votes
#50: Broadcast - Maida Vale Sessions - 222 points - 7 votes
#49: Moor Mother - Jazz Codes - 223 points - 7 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#48: Miranda Lambert - Palomino - 224 points - 8 votes
#46: Mr Fingers - Around the Sun Pt 1 - 232 points - 7 votes
#46: Hatchie - Giving the World Away - 232 points - 7 votes
#45: Charli XCX - Crash - 240 points - 10 votes
#44: The Comet is Coming - Hyper-Dimensional Expansion Beam - 244 points - 10 votes
#43: Oren Ambarchi - Shebang - 246 points - 7 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#42: They Hate Change - Finally, New - 248 points - 8 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#41: Animal Collective - Time Skiffs - 249 points - 9 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#40: Fievel Is Glauque - Flaming Swords - 252 points - 9 votes
#39: Weyes Blood - And In The Darkness, Hearts Aglow - 255 points - 9 votes
#38: Shygirl - Nymph - 257 points - 9 votes
#37: Perfume - PLASMA - 262 points - 8 votes
#36: Soccer Mommy - Sometimes, Forever - 262 points - 12 votes
#35: Death's Dynamic Shroud - Darklife - 264 points - 7 votes
#34: Jeff Parker ETA IVtet - Mondays at the Enfield Tennis Academy - 276 points - 9 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#33: Dry Cleaning - Stumpwork - 289 points - 12 votes
#32: Sam Prekop & John McEntire - Sons Of - 302 points - 11 votes
#31: Richard Dawson - The Ruby Cord - 314 points - 9 votes
#30: Wizkid - More Love, Less Ego - 314 points - 11 votes
#29: Jenny Hval - Classic Objects - 319 points - 11 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#28: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers - 331 points - 13 votes
#27: Hikaru Utada - BAD MODE - 337 points - 11 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#26: Bitchin Bajas - Bajascillators - 338 points - 13 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#25: Shabason & Krgovich - At Scaramouche - 345 points - 13 votes
#24: Cate Le Bon - Pompeii - 352 points - 10 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#23: Asake - Mr. Money With The Vibe - 353 points - 10 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#22: Alvvays - Blue Rev - 361 points - 12 votes
#21: The 1975 - Being Funny in a Foreign Language - 361 points - 13 votes
#20: Bad Bunny - Un Verano Sin Ti - 370 points - 12 votes
#19: Lucrecia Dalt - ¡Ay! - 379 points - 13 votes
#18: Billy Woods - Aethiopes - 382 points - 11 votes
#17: Beth Orton - Weather Alive - 414 points - 16 votes
#16: Destroyer - Labyrinthitis - 420 points - 14 votes - 1 #1 Vote

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:06 (two years ago)

·78 not guessed by anyone yet

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:08 (two years ago)

doing some selective listening back at the albums i haven't heard, and the they hate change album is great

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:09 (two years ago)

Mitski?

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:09 (two years ago)

been guessed, and a good one. Can't imagine she is still to come?!

aaaa.. Daphni? aka Caribou

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:11 (two years ago)

this is awfully high up for cash cobain & chow lee but by god if they don't deserve it

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:12 (two years ago)

#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me - 166 points - 7 votes
#67: Florist - Florist - 189 points - 7 votes
#54: Oren Ambarchi/Johan Berthling/Andreas Werlin - Ghosted - 214 points - 8 votes
#46: Mr Fingers - Around the Sun Pt 1 - 232 points - 7 votes
#19: Lucrecia Dalt - ¡Ay! - 379 points - 13 votes

happy dicoveries

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:14 (two years ago)

Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn for #78?

aphoristical, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

yeah was thinking that or maybe Au Suisse

nashwan, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

Is 78 my #1? (Hudson Mohawke)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

Was wondering if Destroyer was going to make it, didn't figure it was going to be top 20 as it seemed there wasn't as much talk as usual about this one.

It is my #1. Nothing particularly groundbreaking from him (except maybe for the second half of "June"), but among his best in my opinion. Ended up being the 2022 album I listened to the most by far.

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

Black Midi for 78?

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

I hope not. I was counting on that as being my best chance of having something in the top half of the countdown.

o. nate, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:18 (two years ago)

Wow this S&K album radiating Kings of Convenience vibes

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

The Destroyer album also kept growing on me throughout the year, until I considered it his best since Kaputt.

Chris L, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:21 (two years ago)

#78: one of the Mary Halvorsonses

Love love love today's Hval; it is her best, I think, but seemed a bit overlooked - great to see it here.

technopolis, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:22 (two years ago)

Really like the Beth Orton album, actually had it a little lower than this on my ballot, but it was a welcome surprise in several ways.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

Bought and listened to all of the Parker and yeah, it's all really great, right in my sweet spot. Especially impressive that it was all improvised.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

Also a good time to start guessing top 10 and placement!

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

The Destroyer album also kept growing on me throughout the year, until I considered it his best since Kaputt.

― Chris L, Thursday, February 2, 2023 1:21 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah, same for me, it's the one 2022 album I just kept coming back to again and again

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:25 (two years ago)

78 had better not be WGWGSA, that's all

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:26 (two years ago)

0/62, ILM we are as strangers

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:31 (two years ago)

Great rollout so far. I can only think of 10 definite locks remaining...

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:32 (two years ago)

looking at my ballot now and am gonna guess that if one of votes is gonna be 78, it's gonna be Jockstrap

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:33 (two years ago)

hoping to see a lot of people post their ballots later on

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:33 (two years ago)

From my ballot, I'm guessing Infinity Knives & Brian Ennals for #78. It did really well on the few EOY lists where it appeared but I don't know if enough people heard it.

Chris L, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:42 (two years ago)

ok

sza
beyoncé
fireboy dml
rema
junior boys
real lies
rosalía
sudan archives
carly rae jepsen
soft pink truth
dawn richard/spencer zahn
makaya mccraven
big thief

and two others i don't know

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:44 (two years ago)

christ imagine adigery/pupul isn't top 15 but is in fact 78. would have to get very irate indeed

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:44 (two years ago)

Beths

alpine static, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:46 (two years ago)

i think adigery is in

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:46 (two years ago)

of brad's, i think the one that won't make it is fireboy

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:47 (two years ago)

maybe nilufer yanya makes it?

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:48 (two years ago)

where does jockstrap place?

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:49 (two years ago)

I know there's a lot of love for Dawn Richard here but top 15 for a relatively minor work? Hmm. "Second Line" was #12 last year.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:50 (two years ago)

jockstrap placing would be a disappointment tbh

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:51 (two years ago)

Earl Sweatshirt maybe

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:51 (two years ago)

of brad's, i think the one that won't make it is fireboy

― sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, February 2, 2023 11:47 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

another cruel ilm year-end where my no. 1 doesn't place at all? unpossible

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:56 (two years ago)

nobody else voted for fka twigs?

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:01 (two years ago)

is fka twigs the 78

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:03 (two years ago)

i voted for most of the records in that batch of guesses btw, wired up to the hivemind as always

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:04 (two years ago)

christ imagine adigery/pupul isn't top 15 but is in fact 78. would have to get very irate indeed

this would be delicious, truly chef’s kiss. alas, not gonna happen

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:11 (two years ago)

Was Alabaster DePlume's record popular enough here to still place?

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:12 (two years ago)

nope

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:14 (two years ago)

I think it was too uneven/divisive with the vocal tracks, but expect to see something on the tracks poll.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:15 (two years ago)

78; Belle and Sebastian or Hot Chip.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:16 (two years ago)

another cruel ilm year-end where my no. 1 doesn't place at all? unpossible

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, February 2, 2023 1:56 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm rooting for you!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:16 (two years ago)

I voted for Adigery.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

damn, this Shabason + Krgovich album is nice...

'bout to blow my kids' college fund on Bandcamp tomorrow

alpine static, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:19 (two years ago)

Is there any chance in hell Carly Rae was 78'ed? I certainly didn't vote for it, and I've been a reliable CRJ voter in the past.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:19 (two years ago)

i guess it's possible but it'd be a shame bc it's a great record

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:22 (two years ago)

i loved that Alabaster album but people got uptight about his voice

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:24 (two years ago)

Was just wondering if other people did what I did. xp

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:25 (two years ago)

CRJ will place but starting to wonder if the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are 78ed.

Bee OK, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:25 (two years ago)

Digging ¡Ay! a lot. had only heard the Aaron Dilloway collab prior to this.

gman59, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:26 (two years ago)

Getting a lot out of the Billy Woods; focusing more on the textural depth of the layers of samples and the tension between the beat and the rhythm of the vocals before even really getting to the lyrical content.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:27 (two years ago)

Some other critic's list faves that haven't shown up (and probably won't):

Fontaines DC
Black Country, New Road
Black Thought & Danger Mouse
Ethel Cain
Black Midi
Ka (either album)

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:28 (two years ago)

well fuck I had no idea Ka released two albums this year. Oops!

octobeard, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:37 (two years ago)

Absolutely loving the Asake album. Thanks ILM.

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:49 (two years ago)

another four of mine placed today:

Wizkid (my #3):
an album I feel has the potential to keep on growing and giving more throughout this year, just because of how amazing it sounds, rich, warm and intimate.

“Frames (Who’s Gonna Know)” is definitely the pearl on this album. people are already claiming it as their wedding song, which, given the lyrics, may not be all that fitting.

Utada Hikaru
a beautiful work from an old friend.

Asake (my #2)

Too low! My #1. A masterpiece.

too low, yes. could (and perhaps should) have been my #1 as well. a masterpiece indeed.
his new song, which came out on Monday is a reflective non-banger (a victory lap, dixit rob). the experience is greatly enhanced by its beautiful video.

and Bad Bunny.
“Andrea” and “Ojitos Lindos” the big highlights here. ILM has sure come a long way in the two years since “Si Veo a Tu Mamá” was deemed worthy of a humiliating joke placement (at #19, close enough) in the tracks rollout. you may call it the wrath of the bunny.

didn’t get into the Jenny Hval in time to vote for it, but I love it and I’m very happy it placed.

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:56 (two years ago)

people are already claiming it as their wedding song, which, given the lyrics, may not be all that fitting.

ha, some may say this is the hallmark of many classic wedding songs

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:59 (two years ago)

i like ka but all of his albums sound exactly the same, do not really feel like i need any more of them at this point tbh

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:59 (two years ago)

_ people are already claiming it as their wedding song, which, given the lyrics, may not be all that fitting._

ha, some may say this is the hallmark of many classic wedding songs

true, it seems to be the way

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:01 (two years ago)

Is Wilco 78?

Indexed, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:01 (two years ago)

i think there are subtle differences between each one, and the ones that he works on with other producers (like the dr. yen lo album or the hermit and the recluse album) provide color.

if nothing else, you should definitely check out the astonishing single "ascension"

xps to nhex

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:01 (two years ago)

*(na) not nhex, sorry

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:01 (two years ago)

i like dr. yen lo and hermit and the recluse but those were 8 and 6 years ago respectively! he's a talented guy and i'm glad people are into his music, i have just had enough of the drumless loops and whisper voice thing to last me for a while

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:04 (two years ago)

I accidentally left CRJ off my ballot - she would have been right in the middle of my 25 album list. It allowed Kendrick Lamar to sneak in at #25.

I'm assuming Mitski places. I thought Nilufer Yanya would sneak in too, but it might be getting too high for that.

aphoristical, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:10 (two years ago)

no way mitski places, soz

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:16 (two years ago)

ILM has sure come a long way in the two years since “Si Veo a Tu Mamá” was deemed worthy of a humiliating joke placement (at #19, close enough) in the tracks rollout. you may call it the wrath of the bunny.

Oh I wasn’t trying to humilliate him! I love that one. I nommed and campaigned for that song alas to no success so I gave it a joke placement because it deserved a mention in the poll one way or another.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:18 (two years ago)

well, let’s just say, judging from the bewildered comments to that placement, ILM heads weren’t ready for the bunny.

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:21 (two years ago)

i dig BB. finally catchig up with and enjoying the Asake. i thought i'd be into the Bitchin Bajas but i only lasted two tracks.

stirmonster, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

i like short albums so 30 mins for the Asake is a good length for me.

stirmonster, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:29 (two years ago)

I feel like its a big part of its appeal ... punk amapiano

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:33 (two years ago)

Asake album is sounding great

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:36 (two years ago)

random comments, mostly on the rock-oriented stuff which is in my wheelhouse:

#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car - the discovery of the poll so far, ordered the CD, great to hear a band just going for it
#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance - a promising debut, they have a good sound, but feels like they haven't quite shaken off their influences
#44: The Comet is Coming - Hyper-Dimensional Expansion Beam - great sound, and some decent jams, but needs a bit more going on compositionally
#41: Animal Collective - Time Skiffs - lots of ideas here, some maybe that should've been left on the cutting room floor, twee psychedelia in an Elephant 6 vein, if anyone is old enough to remember that scene
#33: Dry Cleaning - Stumpwork - can't get past the dry, arch vocal style, but that's just me
#31: Richard Dawson - The Ruby Cord - has he ever made an album of 3 minute pop songs? sorry I don't have the attention span for this
#24: Cate Le Bon - Pompeii - so close to something great, maybe if the tempos were sped up about 10%?
#22: Alvvays - Blue Rev - very generic sounding

o. nate, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:50 (two years ago)

i think these 14 almost certainly make it but i have no clear idea what the last is:

the beths
beyonce
big thief
carly rae jepsen
charlotte adigery/bolis pupul
dawn richard/spencer zahn
junior boys
makaya mccraven
real lies
rema
rosalia
the soft pink truth
sudan archives
sza

out of my votes i don't think it's completely inconceivable that axel boman or nilufer yanya place but i'd be very surprised at this point

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:52 (two years ago)

Wonder if Plains is 78?

Lots of waxahatchee love here a couple years ago but Plains was only a halfway follow up. I voted for it but didn’t place it high on my ballot (whereas “Problem with It” was my #1 track vote)

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:56 (two years ago)

billy woods lyrics are fun, reminiscent of MF Doom

Blew his stack on oysters piled like Kilimanjaro
Crostini, charred avocado, draped in lardo
Still got no quarrel with thеm Viet Congs
Speak sepia tonеs, everyone I know is gone
No stigmata, they put nails through arms
Temple Grandin: keep the cattle calm
Side-saddle, took Carrie to the prom
Joanne Chesimard, windows open, nights warm
Power cuts, no ice, so the cuba libre's strong
Fire in the cane fields, generational trauma
At the museum, eyes glassy from the pain pills
Me and her in the diorama

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2023 21:02 (two years ago)

been boggling at his pen game in an offboard chat

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 21:08 (two years ago)

his new song, which came out on Monday is a reflective non-banger (a victory lap, dixit rob). the experience is greatly enhanced by its beautiful video.

“Yoga” sounding fantastic this morning.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2023 21:08 (two years ago)

yeah managed to sneak about 2/3 of the Asake album before being ordered to evening stations, was sounding v cool! brevity of both songs and album a selling point, everything very concise and sparky

imago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 21:12 (two years ago)

xxp Billy Woods is a real one. He's been on such a tear lately, happy this placed, but it's not as good as Hiding Places or Known Unknowns. His lyricism and delivery reminds me a bit of Doom, but him and Ka are both so viscerally melancholy and perhaps Dickensian, that Doom's levity and sense of humor would feel foreign on these records

octobeard, Thursday, 2 February 2023 21:14 (two years ago)

for a while, i thought hiding places was peak woods, but i've come around to thinking that aethiopes surpassed it!

i love kenny segal's instrumental stuff, tho

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 21:17 (two years ago)

Panda Bear & Sonic Boom might round out the top 15.

Chris L, Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:02 (two years ago)

#30: Wizkid - More Love, Less Ego: My #18, which in hindsight was way too low. As a lot of young stars are fighting for space, Wizkid then really found his own space with this one. And as voodoo chili points out, it's filled with great sonic details. An incredible headphone record, which is not how the genre seemed ten years ago when 'Oliver Twist' and 'Antenna' shook the world.
#29: Jenny Hval - Classic Objects: In 2021 I loved the Lost Girls record. Classic Objects seemed a bit more of the same. But Jenny Hval is very good, and it would definitely have been on my top 50.
#28: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers: Too high! Part of it is incredible - Mother I Sober!!! - but wow was it navel-gazy, and the skits were awful! He hired a celebrity therapist to record skits about how Kendrick was really amazing after all? What a rich man thing to do. There's a bunch of tap-dancing skits leading up to a horrible pun on it, and they are not the worst skits...
#27: Hikaru Utada - BAD MODE: I liked the Marseille song, so I'll check the rest of it out.
#26: Bitchin Bajas - Bajascillators: This band is on the list every year, right?
#25: Shabason & Krgovich - At Scaramouche: I think I'll love this, but it was hard enough to get my list down to 25 records this year, so decided not to check it out before now.
#24: Cate Le Bon - Pompeii: I don't get it at all. The only Cate Le Bon I've ever loved was a cover of Are You With Me Now from a Welsh documentary I saw once. First time I heard her songs. It's been downhill ever since.
#23: Asake - Mr. Money With The Vibe: Yeah, my number one. An astounding album. Asake had the hits, could have just made some filler and called it a day, and instead he made a coherent suite-like masterpiece, taking SA amapiano influence, mixing it with local sounds, and creating a fully unique work. Which still became the highest charting Nigerian debut record ever. Nothing has ever sounded exactly like this before, it's a complete triumph for Asaka, as well as for the entire genre. And also, it preempts some hipsters from Brooklyn creating a 'more raw and artistic' indie take on amapiano. Some Nigerian dude has already done it, shut up hipsters.
#22: Alvvays - Blue Rev: I like it, I like all their albums, but have no idea why they got so big this year.
#21: The 1975 - Being Funny in a Foreign Language: Close to being on my list. A lot of hits, but needed a few more songs as weird and great as the opening track and Part of the Band. I blame Antonoff.
#20: Bad Bunny - Un Verano Sin Ti: I love that this is the biggest star in the world. Good job, world. I never really got into this album, though.
#19: Lucrecia Dalt - ¡Ay!: Yeah, don't get this at all. It's about as 'sci-fi' as Weyes Blood to me.
#18: Billy Woods - Aethiopes: Also very close to my list. I didn't love this as much as I loved his collaboration with Moor Mother from a few years ago, but I really like it if he becomes an ILX fave. I need to check out his back catalogue.
#17: Beth Orton - Weather Alive: I'll get around to this one at some point.
#16: Destroyer - Labyrinthitis: My #19. Was bound to feel like a let down after Have We Met was my AOTY in 2020, but he managed to make a very good follow up. I think he has finally embraced that Destroyer is now a weird collaborative project, where he only delivers words and melodies, and others then cloak them in incredible soundscapes. They really went deconstructive this time.

Frederik B, Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:17 (two years ago)

who was it on this board was like 'I fkking hate asake' ... loved that post even tho I disagreed...curious where they stand now

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:19 (two years ago)

part of the band reaction on here was also funny someone was like this is lame commercial pop like coldplay, turned out it was like inspired by lou reed

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:20 (two years ago)

Fireboy DML deserved to make the poll, but I'd be shocked if he's higher than Wizkid.

Also, the closest thing to a Danish version of Alvvays is Kindsight, and their album was my #10. Check out their 'No Doubt in 7/8' banger Hi Life!

Frederik B, Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:25 (two years ago)

Today's batch was big for me!

#30: Wizkid - More Love, Less Ego - Voted for this. It was very difficult to choose which of the big Nigerian albums of 2022 (this, Asake, Rema, Fireboy, Omah Lay, Burna Boy though at a slightly lower rung) to go for given they were to my mind all alike in dignity, but at the time of compiling my ballot the Wizkid benefited from being so endlessly gorgeous to listen to. But I feel very bad about the amazing albums that didn't make my ballot for essentially random reasons.

#29: Jenny Hval - Classic Objects - Voted for this I'm pretty sure. In my view the best thing she's done (or at least the one I enjoy most consistently front to back).

#28: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers - Voted for this. I don't know if it's his best album since Good Kid (per Brad) but it was certainly not a drop-off in my book, and better for me than Damn I think. I liked the too-much-ness and self-absorption of it, the whole spokesperson of his generation vibe he'd built up was probably unsustainable anyway.

#27: Hikaru Utada - BAD MODE - Didn't vote for this but should have, only rediscovered how much I love it after voting closed.

#26: Bitchin Bajas - Bajascillators - Voted for this, got me through some rough periods of work-related jetlag.

#25: Shabason & Krgovich - At Scaramouche - Voted for this and think it's great, but the Blue Nile comparisons seem a bit weird and lazy to me. I get more of a Brian Eno on the second half of Before and After Science crossed with Arthur Russell on Another Thought vibe, mixed with some David Sylvian I guess.

#24: Cate Le Bon - Pompeii - Didn't vote for this. I've liked Le Bon in the past but this one didn't really click and I feel like the Hval album filled the need I had for stuff vaguely in this category this year.

#23: Asake - Mr. Money With The Vibe - Didn't vote for this but it's awesome (see comments re Wizkid above).

#22: Alvvays - Blue Rev - Have never listened to them on the basis of a totally unsubstantiated assumption that they would not be my thing.

#21: The 1975 - Being Funny in a Foreign Language - Voted for this as usual, though (and this is weird for me to say of The 1975) I still need to spend more time with it.

#20: Bad Bunny - Un Verano Sin Ti - Didn't vote for this and should relisten to it, the one time I played it earlier in the year it sounded great (see general comments upthread about under-engagement with great music).

#19: Lucrecia Dalt - ¡Ay! - Voted for this and love it to bits. This feels like the sort of album every ILM regular should at least give a shot to.

#18: Billy Woods - Aethiopes - Didn't vote for this but approve. I love the two Woods albums I listened to this year (of which this was one) but need to spend more time with them in general.

#17: Beth Orton - Weather Alive - Voted for this - amazing record that I root for both objectively and sentimentally.

#16: Destroyer - Labyrinthitis - Didn't vote for this but I think it's great - agree that it's probably his best since Kaputt.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:35 (two years ago)

haven’t really listened to the shabason & krgovich album but just remembered i saw krgovich and dear nora cover a full sade album live a few years ago

na (NA), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:43 (two years ago)

Ah forgot to update: the #78 has been mentioned

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:49 (two years ago)

but not named as #78!

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:50 (two years ago)

haven't heard that shabason & krgovich album (fully intend to get round to it soon), but the one song of theirs i know made me think of bill callahan covering later period david sylvian

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:54 (two years ago)

did ron trent get #78'ed?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:55 (two years ago)

fireboy is 78?

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:55 (two years ago)

i would have been surprised if he placed since his last album didn't manage to and people seemed a bit more enthusiastic about it at the time

ufo, Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:56 (two years ago)

haven't heard that shabason & krgovich album (fully intend to get round to it soon), but the one song of theirs i know made me think of bill callahan covering later period david sylvian

― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, February 2, 2023 5:54 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

basically yes

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:07 (two years ago)

I should hav evoted for Fireboy ;_;

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:24 (two years ago)

Gee, I voted for Dalt and Woods too, in addition to S+K and Le Bon, as noted in the middle of the night. (This is a fun game, refraining from consulting one's ballot, so as to still get a pleasant surprise even with stuff that was presumably always going to place lol.)

The Alvvays, 1975 or Beth Orton are only complete mysteries here. I've been content with ignorance so far, for better or worse.

So... I'm not alienated by #30-#16 either then. Not sure how I got so [relatively, by previous standards] hive-mind-y.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:53 (two years ago)

Was about to say that I probably shouldn't have slept on Beth Orton, as the, um, textures are often pleasant (and I did in fact have her 90s albums when I was little more than a child) but her tendency to sit on a seemingly unvarying chord progression for 5 minutes at a time is a little wearying right now tbh.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 February 2023 01:34 (two years ago)

Is this 1975 album their lowest placement in an ILM EOY list? 21 seems awfully low for them.

Bee OK, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:05 (two years ago)

Good results today. I voted for Hikaru Utada, Shabason & Krgovich, Alvvays and Destroyer.

Agree with everyone saying Labyrinthitis is the best Destroyer album since Kaputt. I've actually found his albums since quite underwhelming overall despite a few great moments. I loved everything about this one, especially June which is a career highlight.

Alvvays is an interesting one. I wasn't sure where they would place considering there's been some sort of backlash on here which seemed to really apparent when Archie placed in the 2010s tracks poll. I can see why this album broke through for them. They gave people a chance to miss them being away for five years and it a very strong return. I do think Antisocialites is the better album though and I'm kinda glad they weren't any higher. I also like that we're one of the few places that recognise The Beths made a stronger album.

Really surprised to see Cate Le Bon so high after her previous album just scraped into our 2019 poll. I could not get on with this one at all. Beth Orton being this high was surprising too. I really wanted to love that album, but I really struggled with it.

The 1975 lost me on Notes and didn't quite win me back this time round. I'm glad they made something more concise as the messiness of the last album was a real turn off for me. I'll probably always like them and root for them, but it feels like I'm already getting far away from 2016-18 when they were one of my favourite bands going. The magic hasn't quite been there this time.

As for predictions already mentioned, I can see Carly Rae Jepsen missing out. Devotion Side B didn't make our 2020 poll and that was on a similar level of quality. I like the album and did vote for it, but like Charli it feels like a lesser album for her (also Beach House is still an issue). Emotion and Dedicated were both perfect. I would be more disappointed if the Rufus duet missed out next week. The only album I'm rooting for that seems like an outside bet at this point is, Nilufer Yanya. She really deserves to be here.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:14 (two years ago)

Is this 1975 album their lowest placement in an ILM EOY list? 21 seems awfully low for them.

― Bee OK

The debut was the same position in our 2013 list. I think they've gone 21-7-7-7-21 with their albums.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:16 (two years ago)

!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 February 2023 02:26 (two years ago)

some spooky stuff happening in this poll

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 February 2023 02:27 (two years ago)

I haven't been able to follow the poll in real time but it's fun to catch up after.

My #1 was Hikaru Utada, who was a completely new artist for me this year. I didn't fall in love with Somewhere Near Marseilles (it's still not my favourite) but I kept finding myself spending time with the album through December. The album's more direct and less oblique than SNM suggests but it still has layers and knots and unexpected twists and you can just fall into it.

Favourite new discovery so far (I have a lot of listening still to do) is Florist - I can't explain why this grabs me and e.g. the Big Thief album very much did not, but I'm happy to embrace the mystery.

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Friday, 3 February 2023 02:40 (two years ago)

What the hell re: you people and dissing new cate le bon, I do not get it, that album is straight up “music I’ve been waiting for all my life”

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 3 February 2023 03:10 (two years ago)

#30: Wizkid - More Love, Less Ego - voted for this, a worthy follow-up to made in lagos & the slight shift into amapiano-lite worked very well

#29: Jenny Hval - Classic Objects - voted for this, her best solo album yet, she's gotten so balearic

#28: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers - a few tracks that live up to his previous standard ("united in grief", "mother i sober") but this was a messy disappointment overall

#27: Hikaru Utada - BAD MODE - delighted this ended up getting so much attention, i'd adored the singles over the years prior and the rest of the album lived up to them to make her best album in 20 years (& i'd agree that "somewhere near marseilles" isn't even the highlight. the only issue is that "face my fears" is wildly out of place and not particularly good

#26: Bitchin Bajas - Bajascillators - wow you all really liked this sort of thing this year? skimmed some of it and it sounds really nice, will have to give it a proper listen

#25: Shabason & Krgovich - At Scaramouche - voted for this, always here for gorgeous sophistipop, thanks to whoever highlighted it in the voting thread

#24: Cate Le Bon - Pompeii - a remarkable atmosphere, everything is just slightly off-kilter & a little sluggish, but that all ends up blending together

#23: Asake - Mr. Money With The Vibe - voted for this, fantastic fresh take on amapiano, deserves all the acclaim, my only issue is that i want an extended mix of pretty much every track

#22: Alvvays - Blue Rev - really don't like the cassette rip filter that's all over this. just fine indie rock i don't get the hype about but it's a step up from before for them

#21: The 1975 - Being Funny in a Foreign Language - voted for this, they traded sprawl for consistency and made one of their best albums, too low!

#20: Bad Bunny - Un Verano Sin Ti - voted for this, somehow justifies its length (was a very good year for 80 minute albums!) by being absolutely overflowing with ideas

#19: Lucrecia Dalt - ¡Ay! - the woozy atmosphere was a little interesting but a lot of it is so barely there that i never connected with it

#18: Billy Woods - Aethiopes - this is really good at the thing it does but i was pretty much never in the mood for that last year

#17: Beth Orton - Weather Alive - first two tracks are totally transcendent and the rest is just decent

#16: Destroyer - Labyrinthitis - voted for this, definitely his best since kaputt though it falls off in the last two tracks

ufo, Friday, 3 February 2023 03:17 (two years ago)

highly recommend deep river to anyone new to utada, that's a near-masterpiece

ufo, Friday, 3 February 2023 03:21 (two years ago)

I voted for Pompeii but I can see how some of it might feel dense and faintly ugly, and perhaps rhythmically awkward. [XP: yeah, basically what ufo just said :) ]

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 February 2023 03:29 (two years ago)

the overall effect of it resembled a bad dream, i can respect it but not really for me

ufo, Friday, 3 February 2023 03:52 (two years ago)

who was it on this board was like 'I fkking hate asake' ... loved that post even tho I disagreed...curious where they stand now
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, February 2, 2023 11:19 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I assume that's me. I can appreciate the album's concision and agility, nothing overstays its welcome, tracks have punch and hooks. I still dislike his use and reliance on choir backing vocals, his voice, and still find there's something fake to him. To try one more compliment as penance, I hate songs inspired after him more than I hate him now. But I don't make it an obsession, afro-pop has enough streams for everyone. Good for him that he placed above Wizkid, good also that he's not above Rema.

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 07:45 (two years ago)

Pedant's note for Moka: graphic for Labyrithitis says Labyrinthis. I only mention this in case you want to amend it for your portfolio, you understand.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 February 2023 08:30 (two years ago)

can i pedant ur pedantry lol

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 08:36 (two years ago)

oh it's the VIOLIN

was wondering what the Asake album's secret ingredient was, it's such a slick sonic groove that it's easy to miss what enriches it

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 11:23 (two years ago)

have listened to it repeatedly and can't really differentiate between the songs (amapiano j'accuse lol), but as a half-hour album experience it's tasty, I suspect it was made to be an album rather than a playcount vehicle or singles showcase given the flow and length, and it works as such

ooh there's a sax in there too, y'see, subtle stuff

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 11:26 (two years ago)

imago you've basically proven this year that there's almost nothing you can't like, I think you're endangering your reputation

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 11:35 (two years ago)

oh it's the VIOLIN

was wondering what the Asake album's secret ingredient was

this is correct 🎻

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 February 2023 11:36 (two years ago)

well it's not like he had a go at the taylor

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2023 11:42 (two years ago)

Taylor’s big mistake: she shouldn’t have ditched the fiddle

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 February 2023 11:44 (two years ago)

I wonder if Silvana Estrada made the list.

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 12:04 (two years ago)

idk i still have beef with all the static mnml ambient-adjacent stuff except when it helps me win at chess

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 12:18 (two years ago)

looking at our top 15 locks, i'd say i'm happier with this top 15 than quite a lot we've had down the years. think i really liked last year's top ten too. either you're changing or i am lol

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 12:19 (two years ago)

You're playing chess ?

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 12:25 (two years ago)

I like the image of imago flanked on all sides during this rollout by a glass of spirits, a laptop open to this thread, a stereo, and an active chessboard w/ competitor

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 February 2023 12:37 (two years ago)

xp Playing a long game with us

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 12:40 (two years ago)

Is the Wizkid album different at all from the last one?

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 February 2023 12:51 (two years ago)

enjoying the Dalt more than was expecting

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 12:57 (two years ago)

there's reminiscences of Katie Gately in here maybe idk

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 12:57 (two years ago)

Is the Wizkid album different at all from the last one?

there's a light amapiano influence throughout which is new, it's very slightly more propulsive

ufo, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:02 (two years ago)

"Spud Infinity" is on repeat. Let's go!

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 13:04 (two years ago)

heresy from maffew in the 'frantically catching up on yesterday' hours

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:05 (two years ago)

what i like abt the Dalt maybe is that it feels like it isn't letting all its secrets out immediately, being neither too simple nor too obvious in its intentions. there's a nice range to the mix and quite a degree of sonic inventiveness

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:06 (two years ago)

table, ufo is right, but I'd bet that difference is still too small to move the needle for you. You might have better luck with the Asake album if you haven't already heard it.

have listened to it repeatedly and can't really differentiate between the songs

fwiw imago, the "single-song suite" feeling of the album is why I had an inkling you might like it based on a rather hazy memory of you being into that sort of thing (?)

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:09 (two years ago)

i v much am yes! plus its sonics are as discussed delicious

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

i v much am yes! plus its sonics are as discussed delicious

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

i v much am yes! plus its sonics are as discussed delicious

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

oh god

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

lol, glad you liked it so much :)

looking ahead, I voted Nilufer Yanya quite high on my ballot (3rd iirc), which is somewhat out of character, so maybe her audience is wider than you'd expect? as usual for ILM in the '20s, it's hard to tell from borad activity

Fireboy DML got 0 votes in the naija album poll though so that's not happening, sorry Brad

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:21 (two years ago)

i hope asake takes his sound to the logical conclusion and gives us an album that's a continuous mix the whole way through, he's partway there already

ufo, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:37 (two years ago)

Pedant's note for Moka: graphic for Labyrithitis says Labyrinthis. I only mention this in case you want to amend it for your portfolio, you understand.

― anatol_merklich

Goddamit! Should have copy pasted, wrote it down erroneously several times and thought I had it right.

Btw you also wrote it wrong lol you missed the “n”. it’s Labyrinthitis

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:04 (two years ago)

hadn't heard most of yesterday's crop but listened to and enjoyed the rema album

nxd, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

xp that's amazing

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

I don't know if it was the best afro-pop album of the year, but it was the first

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:22 (two years ago)

thanks for the tips, will check out the Asake and Rema albums

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:25 (two years ago)

rema album is really nice, just missed my ballot

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

assorted songs from it pop into my head all the time, most recently it's been "jo"

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

What a year for Nigerian pop—the Rema album is simply stuffed with musical ideas, endless ambition and details. Among those: the transition from Divine to Hold Me is still stunning after months of listening. Forgive me for repeating a joke, but Divine is the only pop song to ever remind me of Tristram Shandy

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:34 (two years ago)

"Calm Down" is a standout of my January cram time. Got to spend time with this album.

Carly with 2 #1's is good to see! Album seemed a bit divisive among the ILM faithful. I absolutely love it but put 2 other records ahead of it.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

lol I left off the beginning of my last sentence there which risks overselling it: "Obvs Rema is no one's idea of a poet, but..."

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

I know we do love Carly on here, but I'm surprised to see her so high and with two number one votes. It's a good album, I just didn't get obsessed with it like I did with Emotion and Dedicated. There's a couple of songs that didn't make much of an impression on me.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:44 (two years ago)

lol I left off the beginning of my last sentence there which risks overselling it: "Obvs Rema is no one's idea of a poet, but..."
― rob, Friday, February 3, 2023 3:37 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah well, on that, if you look at Moka's random links, Rema is described as "commercial appeal and creative deftness" while CRJ is a "whirlwind daydreams and confessions" and decades of whatever. I guess the still life with the quality of a painting puts "art" into pop in that case. It doesn't take much to make a poet.

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:49 (two years ago)

it was good, not remotely her best, but it's fine, if ppl didn't vote Carly on here then truly we'd be lost

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:50 (two years ago)

lol I left off the beginning of my last sentence there which risks overselling it: "Obvs Rema is no one's idea of a poet, but..."
― rob, Friday, February 3, 2023 3:37 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah well, on that, if you look at Moka's random links, Rema is described as "commercial appeal and creative deftness" while CRJ is a "whirlwind daydreams and confessions" and decades of whatever. I guess the still life with the quality of a painting puts "art" into pop in that case. It doesn't take much to make a poet.

Calm Down Maybe

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

i voted for both rema and crj bc i like it when sunlight comes through my window

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 14:56 (two years ago)

I don't like CRJ enough to have bothered listening to that album (no hate, just never did anything for me), so I can't weigh in on the poetic qualities of her lyrics...not that I require pop lyrics to be poetry tbc—whatever that would mean—I just wanted to qualify the pretentiousness of my Sterne allusion

anyway, hell yes to Yanya, quite a vote count too!

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 14:59 (two years ago)

I love this record -- I've loved both her albums -- even as I sometimes have trouble remembering how every song goes.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

but not "trouble" though right?

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

Awesome! I had no idea this album had so much support on here. Brilliant album. There's something so addictive about Nilüfer's songwriting.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

whoa really? did not realize so many people heard this album. it's so good, though to me it feels like a totally new project. I just picked up the record too.

frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:09 (two years ago)

Definitely the best thing they've done since So This Is Goodbye

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

Easily their best album since So This Is Goodbye. This and Dawn Richard were my evening wind down records in the late autumn/early winter last year.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:14 (two years ago)

what an album

just missed my ballot cut

nxd, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

Pedant's note for Moka: graphic for Labyrithitis says Labyrinthis. I only mention this in case you want to amend it for your portfolio, you understand.

― anatol_merklich

Goddamit! Should have copy pasted, wrote it down erroneously several times and thought I had it right.

Btw you also wrote it wrong lol you missed the “n”. it’s Labyrinthitis

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, February 3, 2023 3:04 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I second your Goddamit lol! Lyrtbrhntinthp.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

I am delighted The Soft Pink Truth polled so high. It gets better and better the deeper i listen.

stirmonster, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

love that the soft pink truth album is so high. the was it ever real ep was also excellent

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:32 (two years ago)

eh I actually for this one! Great record

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

Cool cover too

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:38 (two years ago)

Rema album is amazing, came v close to making it my number 1. Just very satisfying as a coherent whole

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:40 (two years ago)

Xp the consistenlyy wonderful art of Robert Beatty

nxd, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:41 (two years ago)

i do appreciate moka's images for shining a light on album cover art, which is all too often just a tiny box in the corner of a screen

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:42 (two years ago)

makaya mccraven, so good. my #2

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:42 (two years ago)

catching momus live one of my findest music memories of 2022

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:43 (two years ago)

*matmos LOL not momus

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:44 (two years ago)

Excellent. I haven't gone back to the Makaya album in a minute, need to rectify that.

xp looool

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:45 (two years ago)

xp No trouble at all remembering Nilifer Yanya songs. At least half of that album loops in my head pretty often.

billstevejim, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:56 (two years ago)

This could well be my favourite Dawn Richard album at this point. I played it a ton.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:56 (two years ago)

This is one of two albums in the top 10 which I wasn’t familiar with and that apparently didn’t make it into many eoy lists:

#8 / Treble
#17 / BrooklynVegan
#48 / Stereogum

Loving what I’ve heard so far and tempted to buy it on vinyl if only to look at that album cover.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:57 (two years ago)

Definitely the best thing they've done since So This Is Goodbye
Easily their best album since So This Is Goodbye.

High praise! Ok, you have my attention.

billstevejim, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

That strip of color blocks makes it looks like this was put out by Real World records

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:02 (two years ago)

I do love that cover but ultimately don't find this album to be completely compelling

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:02 (two years ago)

rly liked this, VERY nearly voted for it. starts slowly but once it gets going my word

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:08 (two years ago)

loved this album (Pigments) so much. I think its my favorite she's done yet too

gman59, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:10 (two years ago)

Voted for both of these (and I suspect, most of the top 10). Both sublime front-to-back albums that I spent a lot of time with in the early morning and late at night. Richard's versatility and creativity know no bounds.

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:12 (two years ago)

There's my top 3, almost all in a row (Soft Pink Truth, Makaya, Beths)

enochroot, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:13 (two years ago)

A wonderful album by my favourite band. So happy to see them this high.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:14 (two years ago)

i voted...........for one of the singles. rest of the album not quite as brilliant for me, but they have oodles of ability obv

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:15 (two years ago)

I'm a little suspicious of people ranking Pigments above her other, more clearly personal albums, but I will revisit it today. I did like it when it came out, it's undeniably pretty, but better than Blackheart and Redemption?

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

voted very highly for one of the singles, this one didn't grab me in full as much as the debut (neither did jump rope gazers, but i also voted very highly for one of those singles!)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

Pigments sounds like Dawn singing over Harold Budd and Talk Talk, it's fantastic.

gman59, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

yeah be careful calling it her best lol, she does have greatness in her catalogue

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:18 (two years ago)

had Pigments near bottom of ballot. Clearly I need to play it some more.

No #1's for the Beths?! OK it's my #4. I love it so much.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

Fun album imo

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

My #4 also xp

Loving the Soft Pink Truth album. Really liked a few of their tracks this year but never got around to the album for some reason.

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

no way i figured Beyonce was #1 here

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

Someone sell me on this Beths album. Gave it a couple tries. Certainly felt less immediate than their last.

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:37 (two years ago)

somewhat impressed it's this low. will have to hear it i suppose, hard to hear something through so much hype

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:37 (two years ago)

Probably another B but fingers crossed for a surprise xp

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:37 (two years ago)

no way i figured Beyonce was #1 here

― maf you one two (maffew12)

I always thought if her S/T and Lemonade couldn't get there, then this one wouldn't either. It never seemed as universally loved on here like those two albums did.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

xxxp Hmm. Listen to
Silence is Golden
Expert in a Dying Field
A Passing Rain
When You Know You Know <<< oddly big for them on Spotify, is it in a TV show or a popular playlist or something?
2am

stuff like "Knees Deep" can be a bit too much at first. I think that track is now my favourite lol

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:40 (two years ago)

I personally find the Beths' album closer "2am" to be a devastating, amazing song. I would have voted for it as a track if I didn't think the title track would do better in that poll.

Chris L, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:41 (two years ago)

Really? I thought there was more love here for Renaissance than Lemonade. But more love for S/T and 4 than either of those.

MarkoP, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:41 (two years ago)

It pretty much did: https://www.metacritic.com/music/renaissance/beyonce

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:42 (two years ago)

I always thought if her S/T and Lemonade couldn't get there, then this one wouldn't either. It never seemed as universally loved on here like those two albums did.

― kitchen person, Friday, February 3, 2023 11:39 AM (two minutes ago)

that's true, though I'm still surprised: ILM has a lot of love for pop house. personally I can't get past her celebrity status at this point though

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:42 (two years ago)

I think Renaissance is her best work. My... #10! :D

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:42 (two years ago)

Probably another B

B for Brittney, hopefully :)

fleeting art that floats! (geoffreyess), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:43 (two years ago)

bearl sweatshirt

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:44 (two years ago)

brakence

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:44 (two years ago)

is Earl 78? That would surprise me less than top 6 (and I voted for him)

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:47 (two years ago)

I would have thought Renaissance was more popular on ilm than Big Thief

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

as we're about to learn

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

is Earl 78? That would surprise me less than top 6 (and I voted for him)

― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, February 3, 2023 11:47 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't think he'd been mentioned yet, and forks said the 78 has been mentioned

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

The run she's had since 4 is absurd.

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

this came out too late for me to absorb in time, but I def regret not having her on my tracks ballot

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

My #1!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

What's more surprising is if another B artist outside of Big Thief outplaces Beyonce.

MarkoP, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

blew me away in December -- it's rare an album upends my petty little calculations like SZA's.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

i'm only going to say this once this year: TOO LOW

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:52 (two years ago)

sza album is ridiculously good through and through

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:52 (two years ago)

pretty sure i voted for this, might've just missed. it certainly belongs here and stands with other late year party-crashers like black messiah

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:52 (two years ago)

starting to think Sofie Birch won't place. maybe a vote splitting issue?

gman59, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

the record i think deserved to figure into this list fucking anywhere at all was the ari lennox

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

In other news: people are finally finding out about one of our older poll winners:

Blinken Postpones China Trip Following Balloon Discovery

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:54 (two years ago)

1. motomami
2. natural brown prom queen
3. lad ash
4. unlimited love
5. return of the dream canteen

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:54 (two years ago)

SZA is def on track to be one of my 2023 faves

yeah, Birch is not gonna appear at this point. I can't remember their list, but I'm sure ufo nailed it earlier, they usually do

Ari was my final ballot cut, sorry :( I put Hoodie on my tracks as a consolation prize

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

the record i think deserved to figure into this list fucking anywhere at all was the ari lennox

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, February 3, 2023

thank you

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

yeh fantastic record

nxd, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

My #3 -- every time I play it I find something new to love.

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:57 (two years ago)

oh thank god

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:02 (two years ago)

voted for this obv. in the whole 'are their lyrics good or bad' debate i come down on the side of 'good' - they're impudent, funny, sly, whatever. and the music bangs! they make bangers! ok cool

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:03 (two years ago)

oh thank god it's not #1 ;)

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

didn't vote for anything left to place but rooting for Real Lies to save ilm from itself

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:05 (two years ago)

I haven't thought about it much because I don't listen to Beyonce on an album basis much, but yes, this is my favorite Beyonce album.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:05 (two years ago)

dang i was really ready for this one to go the distance

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

capital-a Art capital-p Pop

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

cuuuuuuuute

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:10 (two years ago)

wow I'm surprised at no Yeah Yeah Yeahs

nashwan, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:10 (two years ago)

v good

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:11 (two years ago)

didn't vote for anything left to place but rooting for Real Lies to save ilm from itself

― rob, Friday, February 3, 2023 12:05 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

If Real Lies wins, I will probably have find out what Real Lies is.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:11 (two years ago)

whuuuuut

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

capital-a Art capital-p Pop

Spotify keeps claiming this is my entire deal. And it's right.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

If Real Lies wins, I will probably have find out what Real Lies is.

― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:11 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this, lol

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:13 (two years ago)

some sort of rave memory deal idk

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:14 (two years ago)

Both of these should be higher than Real Lies

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:16 (two years ago)

But I'm very very glad to see Sudan Archives as high as it is. The thread was super inactive relative to its position.

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:17 (two years ago)

Motomami wins the award for 2022 album I tried hardest to love. Every time I gave it another chance I would start out v enthusiastic and always fade out halfway through slightly mad at myself

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

I gave it 7 or 8 good tries, there’s just nothing there for me.

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:20 (two years ago)

I can't hear what you all hear in NBPQ, I find it very very dull and I liked Athena a lot

I don't know if would say I like Real Lies, but it's an extremely ILM choice. Def want it to beat Big Yawn

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:20 (two years ago)

Rooting for Real Lies here but whichever way it goes, the results today have been fantastic.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:21 (two years ago)

yeah as much as I'm complaining, this is a tight top 15

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:22 (two years ago)

I expect Big Thief is 1 by too big a margin that I won't regret marking 'Lad Ash' down a bit.

Sudan snatched my #1 tho...maybe I got overexcited and won't go back to it much (and maybe Kilo Kish is just as deserving) but it's such a joyous riot to encounter

nashwan, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:23 (two years ago)

some sort of rave memory deal idk

― imago, Friday, February 3, 2023 12:14 PM (eleven minutes ago)

I'm not really the one to defend this album, but I do think it makes memory and nostalgia its subject rather than its style in a way that is far more interesting than mere revival

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

BTW: I have the top 177 albums ready to add to the playlist once we announce 1 and 2

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

Here we go

a la una... a las dos... a las tres

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:28 (two years ago)

no way!

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

2 points

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

Oh shit, that's clooooooose

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

2 points?!

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

lmao amazing

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

#78 is Panda Bear and Sonic Boom's Reset

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

Wow at the 2 point gap

nxd, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

bahaha

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

i nearly made big thief my #25 lol, would have clinched it, quite funny this happened tho

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

Woah! Best results ever!

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

holy shit I so nearly ruined this for us ha ha

nashwan, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

Panda Bear & Sonic Boom might round out the top 15.

― Chris L, Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Only mention!

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

hahaha oh wow, awesome twist

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:31 (two years ago)

All those number one votes!

kitchen person, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:31 (two years ago)

LOOOOL classic <3 <3 <3

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:31 (two years ago)

glad i did a vote, no notes

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:32 (two years ago)

🖼
*#5: Charlotte Adigéry & Bolis Pupul - Topical Dancer - 786 points - 25 votes - 2 #1 Votes*
Charlotte Adigéry (Adigery)🕸


I’m calling it: this is the fakeout and our #5 is actually Lady Aicha & Pisko Cranes Original Fulu Mziki of Kinshasa’s N’Djila Wa Mudjimu. all will be revealed in due time!

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:32 (two years ago)

So many albums I'm not familiar with... so much listening I need to do...

Congratulations ILM, you did good this year! This is the best EOY list I've seen. Many underrated albums got a chance to shine and some pretty agreeable placements for the more popular ones.

Thank you, to all the voters for your comments and excellent taste and my team, seandalai and forks, for helping organize this poll!

seandalai is busy atm I think, he asked me to share the full results with you, I think a proper post-thread is usually posted iirc? Here it goes:

ILM Albums Poll 2022: Spreadsheet with Full Results

ILM Albums Poll 2022: Imgur Gallery

ILM ALBUMS POLL 2022: TOP 77 RECAP

#76: Javiera Mena - Nocturna - 154 points - 6 votes
#76: Arctic Monkeys - The Car  - 154 points - 6 votes
#75: Suede - Autofiction - 154 points - 7 votes
#74: The Garden - Horseshit on Route 66 - 162 points - 4 votes
#72: Ravyn Lenae - HYPNOS - 162 points - 6 votes
#72: Burna Boy - Love, Damini - 162 points - 6 votes
#71: Loraine James - Building Something Beautiful For Me - 166 points - 7 votes
#70: Stromae - Multitude - 176 points - 5 votes
#69: Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa - 177 points - 6 votes
#68: Angel Olsen - Big Time - 183 points - 6 votes
#67: Florist - Florist - 189 points - 7 votes
#66: Little Simz - NO THANK YOU - 190 points - 6 votes
#65: Kabza De Small - KOA II Part 1 - 196 points - 5 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#63: Björk - Fossora - 196 points - 10 votes
#63: Alex G - God Save The Animals - “” - 196 points - 10 votes
#62: Lambchop - The Bible - 197 points - 8 votes
#61: D. Tiffany & Roza Terenzi - Edge of Innocence - 198 points - 7 votes
#60: Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry - 201 points - 7 votes
#59: Chat Pile - God's Country - 202 points - 7 votes
#58: The Smile - A Light for Attracting Attention - 205 points - 8 votes
#57: Taylor Swift - Midnights - 206 points - 7 votes
#56: Beach House - Once Twice Melody - 207 points - 8 votes
#55: Wet Leg - Wet Leg - 209 points - 8 votes
#54: Oren Ambarchi/Johan Berthling/Andreas Werlin - Ghosted - 214 points - 8 votes
#53: Bill Orcutt - Music For Four Guitars - 216 points - 6 votes
#51: Horsegirl - Versions of Modern Performance - 220 points - 8 votes
#51: Horse Lords - Comradely Objects - 220 points - 8 votes
#50: Broadcast - Maida Vale Sessions - 222 points - 7 votes
#49: Moor Mother - Jazz Codes - 223 points - 7 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#48: Miranda Lambert - Palomino - 224 points - 8 votes
#46: Mr Fingers - Around the Sun Pt 1 - 232 points - 7 votes
#46: Hatchie - Giving the World Away - 232 points - 7 votes
#45: Charli XCX - Crash - 240 points - 10 votes
#44: The Comet is Coming - Hyper-Dimensional Expansion Beam - 244 points - 10 votes
#43: Oren Ambarchi - Shebang - 246 points - 7 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#42: They Hate Change - Finally, New - 248 points - 8 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#41: Animal Collective - Time Skiffs - 249 points - 9 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#40: Fievel Is Glauque - Flaming Swords - 252 points - 9 votes
#39: Weyes Blood - And In The Darkness, Hearts Aglow - 255 points - 9 votes
#38: Shygirl - Nymph - 257 points - 9 votes
#37: Perfume - PLASMA - 262 points - 8 votes
#36: Soccer Mommy - Sometimes, Forever - 262 points - 12 votes
#35: Death's Dynamic Shroud - Darklife - 264 points - 7 votes
#34: Jeff Parker ETA IVtet - Mondays at the Enfield Tennis Academy - 276 points - 9 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#33: Dry Cleaning - Stumpwork - 289 points - 12 votes
#32: Sam Prekop & John McEntire - Sons Of - 302 points - 11 votes
#31: Richard Dawson - The Ruby Cord - 314 points - 9 votes
#30: Wizkid - More Love, Less Ego - 314 points - 11 votes
#29: Jenny Hval - Classic Objects - 319 points - 11 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#28: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers - 331 points - 13 votes
#27: Hikaru Utada - BAD MODE - 337 points - 11 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#26: Bitchin Bajas - Bajascillators - 338 points - 13 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#25: Shabason & Krgovich - At Scaramouche - 345 points - 13 votes
#24: Cate Le Bon - Pompeii - 352 points - 10 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#23: Asake - Mr. Money With The Vibe - 353 points - 10 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#22: Alvvays - Blue Rev - 361 points - 12 votes
#21: The 1975 - Being Funny in a Foreign Language - 361 points - 13 votes
#20: Bad Bunny - Un Verano Sin Ti - 370 points - 12 votes
#19: Lucrecia Dalt - ¡Ay! - 379 points - 13 votes
#18: Billy Woods - Aethiopes - 382 points - 11 votes
#17: Beth Orton - Weather Alive - 414 points - 16 votes
#16: Destroyer - Labyrinthitis - 420 points - 14 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#15: Rema - Rave & Roses - 437 points - 12 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#14: Carly Rae Jepsen - The Loneliest Time - 452 points - 14 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#13: Nilüfer Yanya - Painless - 484 points - 17 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#12: Junior Boys - Waiting Game - 484 points - 18 votes
#11: The Soft Pink Truth - Is It Going To Get Any Deeper Than This? - 516 points - 19 votes - 1 #1 Vote
#10: Makaya McCraven - In These Times - 536 points - 19 votes
#9: Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn - Pigments - 538 points - 19 votes
#8: The Beths - Expert In A Dying Field - 560 points - 20 votes
#7: Beyoncé - Renaissance - 670 points - 22 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#6: SZA - SOS - 676 points - 18 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#5: Charlotte Adigéry & Bolis Pupul - Topical Dancer - 786 points - 25 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#4: Rosalía - Motomami - 943 points - 28 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#3: Sudan Archives - Natural Brown Prom Queen - 990 points - 29 votes - 3 #1 Votes
#2: Big Thief - Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe in You - 1137 points - 29 votes - 11 #1 Votes
#1: Real Lies - Lad Ash - 1139 points - 29 votes - 10 #1 Votes

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:32 (two years ago)

Delighted with this tbh

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:32 (two years ago)

Thanks pollrunners.

Fantastic result(s)

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:32 (two years ago)

Panda Bear and Sonic Boom was our #78. It was mentioned, but not properly guessed as the #78 by anyone.

I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

DATA TIME. spreadsheets look just like work. THANK YALL

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:33 (two years ago)


2 #1 votes

My #1!

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 3, 2023 8:51 AM

what the hell are you drinking, my friend?

thanks to poll runners!

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

good job everyone! big <3 to Moka, seandalai, and forks, this made a dreary dead of winter week a lot more fun, I felt like I was part of something

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:34 (two years ago)

Earl was 116 lol

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:34 (two years ago)

Confident I will be listening to this Big Thief album for the rest of my life. An all-timer.

Real Lies is a very ilm #1...

Amazing poll. Thank you so much to the poll runners! Artwork was fantastic as always.

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

Big Thief came up just short like they seemed to on a lot of year end lists.

Chris L, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

they should try being weirder

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:36 (two years ago)

what's it gonna taaaaaaaaaake

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:36 (two years ago)

Or incorporate more 80s and 90s house elements.

MarkoP, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:37 (two years ago)

nice to feel like my ballot made a difference (voted for real lies, did not vote for the big thief album which i liked a great deal but which is also easily my least fave of theirs since the debut)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:37 (two years ago)

what's it gonna taaaaaaaaaake

aeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:37 (two years ago)

xp couldn't hurt

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:38 (two years ago)

xxxxp I think about that meme someone shared of the Spud Infinity lyrics in an art museum all the time

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:38 (two years ago)

it would. take brad. nelson's voting.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:38 (two years ago)

thank you so much for doing this! Big Thief was my #1 but love Real Lies

gman59, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:38 (two years ago)

xxxxp I think about that meme someone shared of the Spud Infinity lyrics in an art museum all the time

Wait what where??

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:39 (two years ago)

Amazing poll. Thank you so much to the poll runners! Artwork was fantastic as always.

― Indexed

I'll admit the template was very low effort this time around lol, but yeah it's functional I guess. As I said before, this year I spent most of the time fooling around with A.I. for the tracks poll. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but it might have ended up being not a great use of my time haha.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:39 (two years ago)

AI in a nutshell :)

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:40 (two years ago)

grand job poll ppl as usual! ah for one more WGWGSA voter ffs lol. where my maximalists at. in 2023 you will be summoned

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:40 (two years ago)

Amazing. Can't believe Real Lies made it (I was one of the #1 voters). Thanks to the poll runners, great rollout and a lot for me to discover here.

toby, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:41 (two years ago)

fun poll all, really enjoyed the results!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:43 (two years ago)

nice to feel like my ballot made a difference (voted for real lies, did not vote for the big thief album

same. mine was ranked though, and i don't remember where i put real lies but it was top ten (because my albums ballot only had ten picks lol).

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:43 (two years ago)

maffew12:

Big Thief - Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe In You

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:43 (two years ago)

i don't remember where i put real lies but it was top ten (because my albums ballot only had ten picks lol).

lol mine went up to 11

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:44 (two years ago)

I might have had the most consequential ballot, because I had Real Lies and Panda Bear side by side, and both the top and bottom might have been drastically different had I switched them.

Chris L, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:44 (two years ago)

so many questions about that meme

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:45 (two years ago)

Real Lies was the other album I was not familiar with, that had almost no mentions on other eoy lists. Here's according to albumoftheyear the only two eoy lists from their aggregate it appears on:

#8 God Is In The TV
#18 The Quietus

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:45 (two years ago)

I have hazy memories of Real Lies from previous top 77 threads, but this is my first time listening to Lad Ash.

It's capital N Not. For. Me.

Not super fond of Big Thief either.

My highest placing vote was Topical Dancer, but Motomami is the highest placing winner I'd have gotten behind.

This top 3 is a headscratcher.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:46 (two years ago)

didn't vote for the sudan archives album but it deserves more discussion here! at the very least she was the first thing i thought of when i saw that chevy s10 in the latest episode of a certain hbo show lol

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:47 (two years ago)

I like how the title Topical Dancer clues you into the exact vibe of the terrible lyrics

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:48 (two years ago)

apply directly to the forehead

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:48 (two years ago)

@Moka, yes, Real Lies was fairly high on Rob Mitchum's Sleepers list, which I understand to be a summary of high-placing albums on only a few year-end lists.

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:50 (two years ago)

aaaa.. Daphni? aka Caribou

well, it got 78 points!

Lowest rank that got a #1 vote: 070 Shake - You Can't Kill Me - 1 vote, 1 #1 vote !

First album rollout in a few years with no compilations at all? The first appearance of "various artists" at least is #102: Planet Love Vol. Two (Early Transmissions 1990​-​1995)

Sault album point total: 114.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:51 (two years ago)

woops, Shake was #262

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:52 (two years ago)

was there only 1 lone #1 voter? usually there are a few

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:52 (two years ago)

there was a compilation

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:52 (two years ago)

lol thanks indexed

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

shout out to the one other Naima Bock voter for saving it from the 1/#1 fate

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

i don't fully understand what it means but i'm honoured to be given a fuxxor quotient of 0.00

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

I was wondering why I hadn't seen any reviews of this #1 album and can see from the thread here that people were wondering why p4k hadn't reviewed it, etc. And then this from Tim F.:

I agree with boxedjoy's take above, though would perhaps say (not that this contradicts boxedjoy's point) that maybe part of the problem is that, if you're not paying attention, they can be boxed too easily as "West End Girls" as produced by Underworld (or some variant or equivalent) - not so much "I don't get it" as "I get it too easily and there's nothing more there to get, to grapple with". I doubt many if any people find them either perplexing or hateful, but I could imagine a lot of shrugged shoulders and "why should I care?"

Or to put it more simply, I am surprised that there is no post above, perhaps from imago (or turrican if they were still around?) dismissing Real Lies as pleasant but ultimately unimaginative, derivative music for norms.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

Broadcast - Maida Vaile Sessions is a compilation.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:54 (two years ago)

Assume this is the closest poll ever. The top three all had exactly 29 votes!

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:55 (two years ago)

oh ok various artists compilation then

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:56 (two years ago)

oh dope, one other person voted for regularfantasy

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:57 (two years ago)

shout out to the one other Naima Bock voter for saving it from the 1/#1 fate

― rob, Friday, February 3, 2023 12:53 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hey that was me! i loved that album, was my #5

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:57 (two years ago)

omfg the absolute IMPERTINENCE of tim!!! i will be sure to lavish real lies with defiant praise

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

xp
ah ha! looking forward to seeing your ballot, closest neighbor. and yes ILM: listen to Naima Bock's Giant Palm, presuming you "love music"

lol was hoping that was noticed

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:01 (two years ago)

I was the only voter for Joan Shelley's The Spur?!?

Chris L, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

tt and i have had our ballots diverge in recent years but we were still the only 2 voters for each other's #1s lol

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:05 (two years ago)

Me, Alfred (my "top neighbor"), and frogbs are the sole voters boasting "Antifuxxor Ratios" exceeding 10,000... whatever that signifies(!)

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:07 (two years ago)

Tove Lo had two #1 votes?!

Indexed, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:07 (two years ago)

Switched my number one as i was filling out the online ballot, was Ron Trent but I thought Real Lies could do with an extra push so gave the extra two points to them instead

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

Here's where I admit that I'd never heard of ILM's #1 album until now. Doesn't surprise me that it sounds like the Pet Shop Boys.

o. nate, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

Yep, that was my thought checking it out just now.

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:27 (two years ago)

(but more "vibe" than songs)

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:27 (two years ago)

So far sounds pretty good though. Well done, ILM. I heard the Streets also mentioned as a reference point, fortunately I don't really hear it.

o. nate, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:30 (two years ago)

yeah, real lies was 100% ilm discovery and i have say thanks to boxedjoy + nv for their enthusiasm on old threads. definitely made me want to check out the album.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:36 (two years ago)

Great poll and roll out! My most hivemind-y year, I think.

Shout out to the other Malibu voter. Wish Ashenspire had been higher.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:39 (two years ago)

I do not get Real Lies and I thought the Big Thief album was utterly forgettable (I've liked them in the past)...but apart from that, great poll! Feeling unusually hivey since I voted for 5 of the top 10.

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:51 (two years ago)

https://www.webmd.com/allergies/remedies-for-hives

and remember it's bandcamp friday!

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:52 (two years ago)

Thanks to the pollrunning team and community ! Very enjoyable results
The number of #1 for the top two is ridiculous, especially compared to 3 and 4 (my top two).
I enjoy the Real Lies but I tend to skip their songs on my playlist, question of mood. I gave a polite vote to Big Thief based on one listen which left me wanting to listen to Neil Young and other 70s folk.

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:11 (two years ago)

Topical Dancer is another interrogation point for me

Nabozo, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:13 (two years ago)

Real Lies' “Oh Me Oh My (Nicotine Patch)" was #12 on the tracks poll last year, which is where I first heard of them. Have not listened to the album yet, but I do like that song.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:16 (two years ago)

always appreciate the poll results and the work that goes into these threads (and the playlist), the artwork for each entry is always a highlight as well, really cool this year

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 February 2023 19:22 (two years ago)

great job, pollrunners!

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 February 2023 19:27 (two years ago)

listening to this Real Lies album for the first time, a couple of songs in I was kind of wondering what the appeal was here, but about 2/3 of the way through I'm starting to get it.

silverfish, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:34 (two years ago)

Was driving through today's rollout, but great poll! Well done voters and runners. I didn't vote for the Real Lies album but liked it and happy to see it as a very-ILM #1. Big Thief was my #1 — it started there early in the year and never got displaced. Although SZA was my #2, and if it had come out a month earlier maybe it would have clawed to the top, it's a great album. I had Rema top 10 too, that albums's a delight.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 3 February 2023 19:41 (two years ago)

Delighted by these results all in all. Real Lies first album should not be slept on either (altho I totally did myself bar 'North Circular' which might still be their best song overall) nor most of their non-album tracks.

As always great job poll bosses.

nashwan, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

vinyl version of 'lad ash' adds some of those stray tracks - 'nicotine patch', 'I wander' and a couple of others

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2023 19:47 (two years ago)

hah Big Thief was very close to being my #25 but I figured it didn't need any help.

billstevejim, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:53 (two years ago)

Glad Makaya McCraven did so well

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 3 February 2023 19:53 (two years ago)

I put Lad Ash at number 1 cos I thought it might have a chance of taking this, pretty sure that's the first time a decision I've made in a poll has proved decisive. It was definitely close to my favourite regardless, top 3 at least

or something, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:02 (two years ago)

Just like NickB I see

or something, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:04 (two years ago)

One of the better 77's I've seen here. However - I had no idea who the #1 was. First time that's happened here for me. Never heard of Real Lies, must have overlooked discussion of them here or something. Don't think I've heard a note of their music. Wild.

octobeard, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

I had never heard of Real Lies either. My quick ILM search showed some folks had voted for them in recent years or mentioned them, but I had never noticed that.

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:28 (two years ago)

listening to the Bitchin Bajas now -- I'd assumed this was some kind of rawk, punk, or surf group lol

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:33 (two years ago)

I discovered “boss trick” in the 2020 poll and fell hard for them. Glad it made #1.

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:33 (two years ago)

i always confuse bitchin bajas with the budos band. who i always confuse for the beta band

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:34 (two years ago)

“nicotine patch” should be on the cd, that track is so good

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:34 (two years ago)

also, “birds”, that track is top tier imo!

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:35 (two years ago)

It seems like ILM taste is gravitating more and more towards ECM-style avant-noodle. I think it's a positive development overall.

o. nate, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:37 (two years ago)

¬_¬

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:40 (two years ago)

Moving from the mosh pit to the dance floor to the chill out room.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:41 (two years ago)

it was certainly rude and unfair of me to mention in the same breath as turrican.

What a fantastic and quintessentially ILM poll overall. Thanks pollrunners!

Tim F, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:42 (two years ago)

Shambhala is finally good and dead.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:45 (two years ago)

hatchie made it, no? i thought she fit that bill but i am not the authority

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:54 (two years ago)

isn't Hatchie shambhala? XPOST ffs

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:54 (two years ago)

Yeah, I guess. But not as much now as when she began. Hard to tell in 2023 because of so much cross-pollination in pop and indie and what began as shambhala.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:56 (two years ago)

Great results, thank you pollrunners. I was one of the #1 voters for Real Lies - already quite liked them but wasn't prepared for how good Lad Ash is.

I was underwhelmed by the Big Thief album based on a couple of listens (having enjoyed their previous two) but am giving it another go this very minute and it's sounding really good?

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:57 (two years ago)

Feel good that a few of the albums that I voted for did well enough in this poll.

Thanks pollrunners!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:01 (two years ago)

We got all the shambhala out of our systems in the 2010s poll last year.

MarkoP, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:11 (two years ago)

I missed the rest of the rollout. Now to scroll up -

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:14 (two years ago)

xp Yeah, Ten Love Songs winning it all put it bed in a kind way.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:17 (two years ago)

*to bed

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:17 (two years ago)

Very happy with where SZA placed in the end, she deserved it

Once again I didn’t hold onto my ballot but based on what I can remember:

#60: Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry - 201 points - 7 votes
#34: Jeff Parker ETA IVtet - Mondays at the Enfield Tennis Academy - 276 points - 9 votes - 2 #1 Votes
#32: Sam Prekop & John McEntire - Sons Of - 302 points - 11 votes
##10: Makaya McCraven - In These Times - 536 points - 19 votes
#6: SZA - SOS - 676 points - 18 votes - 2 #1 Votes

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:27 (two years ago)

will there be a thread for ballots?

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:28 (two years ago)

(Jeff Parker was my #1. My number 1s NEVER make it into the top 77.)

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:33 (two years ago)

Reluctantly listening to this Big Thief Album for the first time and trying my best to dislike it, but it's not easy. Wait, they rhymed "finish" with "potato knish"?! I give up, it's too damned likeable.

o. nate, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:02 (two years ago)

and thus is answered:

what's it gonna taaaaeeeeeee

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:05 (two years ago)

ILM 2022 Album Poll Ballots: What's it gonna taaaaeeeeeee

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:08 (two years ago)

aeeeeeeeeeee

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:09 (two years ago)

be right there, I'm in the bath

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:09 (two years ago)

I discovered “boss trick” in the 2020 poll and fell hard for them. Glad it made #1.

― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, February 3, 2023 2:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, I realized while listening to the album just now that I'd heard that song before. So that must be where I first encountered them, too.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:14 (two years ago)

will check out the asake album as it's p short apparently and probably a couple of others which have the most appealing album artwork to me.

many thx to the poll runners. looking frwd to the trax poll where the real fun is.

oscar bravo, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:21 (two years ago)

Yes, thanks to the poll runners. And big ups to everyone who voted, this is a very unique list.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:22 (two years ago)

Gee, this is might the first time I've contributed points to a #1 placement. Voted for #3, as well, even. Nice!

Thanks again poll-runners!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:55 (two years ago)

btw the #1 spot swapped with the very last ballot right before voting closed

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Friday, 3 February 2023 23:16 (two years ago)

Raymond Cummings, you were the other #1 for Parker :-)

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 February 2023 23:32 (two years ago)

👍🏽

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 February 2023 23:58 (two years ago)

Wow, what results. Lad Ash was probably also my album of the year (uh didn't vote, promise to next year) but it's pretty insane to win with a 2 point gap, glad I didn't affect that. Thanks for the fun so far, poll runners

Vinnie, Saturday, 4 February 2023 00:05 (two years ago)

I had no idea Anna Butterss was an almost-a-contender at ILM. I heard that quite late and it was fun. I dare say I would have been tempted to give it a wee strategic shove if I had a clue.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 4 February 2023 00:57 (two years ago)

I played part of the Real Lies album when I took a shower right now. There seems to be a lot of talking and not singing but only got into a few songs.

Bee OK, Saturday, 4 February 2023 01:20 (two years ago)

I miss most of this live as it starts too early for us West Coast types and today work was crazy. I'm more interested in songs now and going to muss most of the roll out next week. Oh well such as life.

Bee OK, Saturday, 4 February 2023 01:56 (two years ago)

Real Lies was the other album I was not familiar with, that had almost no mentions on other eoy lists. Here's according to albumoftheyear the only two eoy lists from their aggregate it appears on:

#8 God Is In The TV
#18 The Quietus

― ✖✖✖ (Moka)

I was one of the number one votes for that God Is In The TV list. It was Bill the guy who runs the site who first mentioned Real Lies to me I think. Him and Boxedjoy (who has also written for GIITTZ) hooked me in by mentioning East 17 and Pet Shop Boys. There's a line on the first album where he sings, "I love my friends more than I'm allowed to say aloud" which just stopped me in my tracks. That kind of sincerity is a huge part of their appeal.

I'm so happy to see Real Lies win. It's not just because it was easily my favourite album of the year, it's also because I like it when we rally round an album/artist that other sites have underrated. We Are King and Ten Love Songs are probably the best examples in the past, but they did get some good reviews here and there. Lad Ash didn't even get covered by a lot of websites as others have mentioned which is still shocking to me. It feels like sites that went crazy for that first Working Man's Club album a few years back might have had some interest in them. It's their loss I guess.

Really a great list overall and a joy to follow. Thanks to the pollrunners for putting this together. Bliss to be alive etc.

kitchen person, Saturday, 4 February 2023 02:30 (two years ago)

I like it when we rally round an album/artist that other sites have underrated

🎈🎈🎈

enochroot, Saturday, 4 February 2023 02:47 (two years ago)

Hua Hsu (I enjoyed his recent memoir Stay True) included Real Lies in his New Yorker “My Year of Listening” column.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2022-in-review/my-year-in-listening

Chris L, Saturday, 4 February 2023 03:12 (two years ago)

xxxxp I think about that meme someone shared of the Spud Infinity lyrics in an art museum all the time

― Indexed, Friday, February 3, 2023 11:38 AM (eleven hours ago)

that wasn't a meme, or i guess it was, but i just made it for that thread

https://i.imgur.com/pFB1NoA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bO4Qs15.png

glad you liked it though!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 February 2023 04:59 (two years ago)

i was formerly the #1 spud infinity fan, but i didn't vote in this poll and i cost big thief the W

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 February 2023 05:05 (two years ago)

(!)What a betrayal… you’re a true potato knish

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Saturday, 4 February 2023 05:12 (two years ago)

the part when the stick hits the drum mic on the fill (or it sounds like it) and it overloads is one of the greatest little moments

boom SHWWWH bop, whatsagonnataaaaaaaaaaa

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 February 2023 05:14 (two years ago)

#15: Rema - Rave & Roses: I didn't vote for this, it never really caught my attention as an album, and was surprised he won the naija-poll (voted for Asake, Wizkid + Cruel Santino and Fireboy DML who didn't make it). Obviously voted for the song everyone else voted for, and will give the album another shot. Happy with four naija-albums on the list, and that he's just been announced for Roskilde!
#14: Carly Rae Jepsen - The Loneliest Time: Oh come on.
#13: Nilüfer Yanya - Painless: I was so hyped after her first singles, but haven't loved either album. This one was better at least because there was no skits, but she hasn't made the album that makes my top five for the year yet. I fully expect her to.
#12: Junior Boys - Waiting Game: Oh come on! ILX really loves it's synth pop nonsense.
#11: The Soft Pink Truth - Is It Going To Get Any Deeper Than This?: Okay, probably more synth-pop nonsense, but I'll forgive it, since I loved their last one, yet didn't find time to listen to this yet.
#10: Makaya McCraven - In These Times: My #23. I loved his Blue Note sampling album as well, and it's really impressive how many great albums he has made in a short time, with a very distinctive sound that doesn't change all that much.
#9: Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn - Pigments: Just missed my ballot. Love the final track especially.
#8: The Beths - Expert In A Dying Field: I agree it's better than Alvvays, but neither album was close to my ballot.
#7: Beyoncé - Renaissance: My #8. At first felt like a letdown after her latest run, but as I listened back to it in December it sounded awfully great. It sounded like she wanted to relax a little, and then the album was a major commercial triumph, and will probably win her all the awards that she should have won already.
#6: SZA - SOS: I kinda don't get it. Sooooo long, and with it's share of ups and downs. It's impressive, but I don't really care.
#5: Charlotte Adigéry & Bolis Pupul - Topical Dancer: I'm surprised this got so much more hype than Stromae, I thought that was by far the Belgian album of the year. I loved the singles that placed last year, and a few more tracks.
#4: Rosalía - Motomami: My #13. Obviously great. A grand statement both endlessly catchy and wildly innovative: Would have made a great #1.
#3: Sudan Archives - Natural Brown Prom Queen: My #15. I only checked this out during voting, and it bowled me over. Sonically amazing, always changing, morphing, a cascade of great ideas. Her earlier stuff is great as well. A grand statement both endlessly catchy and wildly innovative: Would have made a great #1.
#2: Big Thief - Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe in You: My #2 as well. Most of the greatest tracks came out in 2021, but the whole thing made sense as an album. A grand statement both endlessly catchy and wildly innovative: Would have made a great #1.
#1: Real Lies - Lad Ash: Um, what? Heard this last night. Don't get it at all. Never underestimate the love on ILX for some British synth pop nonsense, I guess. Probably interesting if you live in London, but doesn't speak to me at all.

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 February 2023 09:01 (two years ago)

gor blimey up here in that London not a day goes by when i'm not having a good old-fashioned knees up to Real Lies in full pearly king regalia while choking down eels and liquor

also blood sausage is delicious

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 09:14 (two years ago)

thanks to voters and pollrunners

best one out there

corrs unplugged, Saturday, 4 February 2023 09:24 (two years ago)

#15: Rema - Rave & Roses - very solid afrobeats uplifted by little touches like the "divine" into "hold me" transition
#14: Carly Rae Jepsen - The Loneliest Time - a little more uneven than emotion and dedicated, but still has hooks for days
#13: Nilüfer Yanya - Painless - not quite as great as her debut but she's still fantastic, one of the best acts in indie rock right now
#12: Junior Boys - Waiting Game - turns out what they needed to do for me to really love them was decide that the blue nile are actually too loud
#11: The Soft Pink Truth - Is It Going To Get Any Deeper Than This? - maybe? but it does get pretty deep
#10: Makaya McCraven - In These Times - would probably be more into this if it were less inclined towards weird time signatures
#9: Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn - Pigments - gorgeous and could easily have ended up voting for this if i'd spent more time with it
#8: The Beths - Expert In A Dying Field - wish they could reach the heights of "silence is golden" consistently instead of just being pretty good
#7: Beyoncé - Renaissance - at its best when it lets its ideas breathe like on "virgo's groove", otherwise it can feel a little too fragmented, surprisingly weird album
#6: SZA - SOS - trades the focus of her debut for sprawl and the sequencing falls apart by the end but her talent still comes through so clearly that it's a worthy enough follow-up
#5: Charlotte Adigéry & Bolis Pupul - Topical Dancer - some alright grooves but the lyrical & vocal approach gets tiring very quickly, probably glad it's half in french
#4: Rosalía - Motomami - respect what she's doing but the songs didn't really connect with me despite many tries
#3: Sudan Archives - Natural Brown Prom Queen - seems like it should be extremely my thing but instead i've found it a bit impenetrable, maybe it's that it's so dense with ideas? maybe it's the songwriting itself i'm not feeling that much? idk!
#2: Big Thief - Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe in You - my #1, lenker is the best songwriter we have right now and the band have incredible chemistry, album is just overflowing with generosity
#1: Real Lies - Lad Ash - don't quite love this as much as some of you but it's still really good, they've got their underworld + moody ambient synthpop sound figured out

ufo, Saturday, 4 February 2023 11:57 (two years ago)

frederik you'd probably actually be interested in the junior boys album if you were interested in the shabason & krgovich, they're pretty close in sound. it's a little bit of a departure for them, more sophisti-ambience than synthpop nonsense

ufo, Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:02 (two years ago)

have boarded a London bus, time to fire up Real Lies

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:05 (two years ago)

This is like the Lo-Fidelity Allstars, but if you replaced The Wrekked Train with a softboi

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:15 (two years ago)

(not derogatory) (yet lol)

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:18 (two years ago)

It’s amazing to me that Frederik B consistently dismisses great music as synth pop nonsense, yet thinks that Taylor Swift is the best songwriter of her generation.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:38 (two years ago)

Okay, Since I is pretty great

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:50 (two years ago)

Fred's a royalist, leave 'im alone

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:52 (two years ago)

OK so there's a bit too much torpor and oversincere softness for me to truly love this start to finish, but the highlights (first kiss, late arcades, since i, your guiding hand, idk maybe something else) go v hard

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 13:01 (two years ago)

The Soft Pink Truth's my discovery. I love it

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 13:42 (two years ago)

Sorry for clumsy post but: I know people keep mentioning Pet Shop Boys in relation to Real Lies but I think that New Order might be a better point of comparison - both bands affected by loss but expressing that as a nostalgia rather than bare grief, both have that footbally laddishness about them that PSB could never have, but channelling this into a quest for a sort of unguarded communal euphoria (let's go out and have some fun), a rejection of machismo of which the guilelessness of their lyrics is part and parcel, Real Lies as lads raised on Larry Heard et al, rather than the oafish likes of Oasis, much as New Order drew from Italo and NY sounds rather than trying to be blustering stadium rockers like U2 or whoever. They have none of the irony of PSB, no wish for distance. I guess one thing they do share with PSB is an embrace of queerness - anyone who's seen Real Lies live in the last couple of years will know what an integral part of their show Danni Spooner is, an absolute burning candle of joy and celebration

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2023 13:47 (two years ago)

I forgot to say thank you to all the poll runners, and also that this was the best 77 in a long time! Even if I still, after more listening, get nothing out of the #1 and think it's a slightly embarrassing winner.

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 February 2023 14:48 (two years ago)

What embarrasses you about it?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

good post from NickB there. that I couldn't have come up with any of that on my own is why I ultimately didn't quite connect with it

rob, Saturday, 4 February 2023 15:18 (two years ago)

I am just back and wow! I totally expected Big Thief to run away with this. Congrats to my fellow blood sausages. It definitely felt like a bit of a wild poll this year, possibly a shift in ILM hivemind tastes?

emil.y, Saturday, 4 February 2023 15:19 (two years ago)

It does feel like a bit of a new paradigm, though I'm at a loss to name it. My tastes have def shifted a lot in the past few years, though my tracks ballot is filled with my usual no-hope dancehall + probably-a-lot-more-likely-this-year afropop, and not much else—maybe next year I'll give up on splitting them like that. That makes me wonder if part of the different feeling comes from reversing the order of the two polls? It's a bit more suspenseful when you don't sit through a week of multiple Big Thief or w/e tracks placing it

rob, Saturday, 4 February 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

it

rob, Saturday, 4 February 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

I like doing albums first, fwiw.

As for ILM hivemind, I think that the change is for the better, as it is more reflective of the breadth of interests and tastes on this board. While I may complain about certain records placing or not, I’m still glad that this albums list is among the most wide-ranging as I’ve seen on ILM in recent years.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 4 February 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

I agree, albums first was due to forks being busy to start first but I think we should keep doing it like this.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 February 2023 16:28 (two years ago)

i turned against big thief in a big way this year, after being a huge fan of the first couple albums. spud infinity is a terrible song. never heard of real lies but im glad they snatched the top spot. listening now and it sounds cool

flopson, Saturday, 4 February 2023 16:59 (two years ago)

i really love UFOF but it turns out that a more expansive sound isn't really something that interests me from them at the moment

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

charlotte adigery bolis pupul… yikes! unfortunately i speak french so the bilingualism offers no reprieve from the terrible lyrics. but also, these beats are definitely not bangers, it’s often limp and middling electro with no snap

flopson, Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

big thief just keep getting better imo

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:18 (two years ago)

I have a real sensitivity towards bad on-the-nose lyrics (Jenny Hval j'accuse) but honestly Adigery is mostly having fun? Why is it so bad? This is a criticism that's come from a lot of people I respect too. She's no vapid girlboss, she's just impudent and a bit nerdy?

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

Hope she works flopson into her next critic call-out lmao

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:20 (two years ago)

flopson and are not in sync this year

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

And I

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

beth orton too low imho. i did unranked but that was my spiritual number one. it’s true that the first 2 tracks tower over the rest of it, but those two songs are so incredible. best live show i saw this year too

flopson, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:07 (two years ago)

I remarked on one of the 2019 Big Thief threads that their pair of albums were my breakthrough after years of just not understanding what I took to be Lenker's mewling; but last year's album the hook quotient expanded tenfold, and I had admiration for the precision of the playing and love for Lenker's looser anything-goes approach. The songs had humor, warmth, and hooks, hooks, hooks. To risk sounding like cornballs is what I disliked (at first) about their early music. It's as if now they learned how to marry their approach and what's best about American country music (i.e. singing/writing about erotic devastation with a wink and bucketloads of cornballness).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:16 (two years ago)

lucrecia dalt, bit fancy for my unsophisticated tastes. but i think i can appreciate what it’s doing. kinda deconstructed club played by a modern classical ensemble?

flopson, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

#8: The Beths - Expert In A Dying Field - wish they could reach the heights of "silence is golden" consistently instead of just being pretty good

You should go directly to, first, their debut and then their second album, both of which are better than Experts In A Dying Field (which is good! but the first two are perfect).

Beths LP1 > Alvvays LP1
Beths LP2 > Alvvays LP2 (barely)
Alvvays LP3 > Beths LP3

alpine static, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:25 (two years ago)

Alfred otm

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:26 (two years ago)

They Hate Change is pretty dope. My favorite discovery so far.

billstevejim, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:33 (two years ago)

mine too (that and Alex G) but plenty still to hear

imago, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

What embarrasses you about it?

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 4. februar 2023 15:54 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Embarrassment might be too strong a word, but it's a very small album, especially compared to a lot of the rest of the top ten. And also, a mix of Pet Shop Boys, New Order, Underworld, with lyrics about nostalgia and looking back on parties years ago? It's exactly the sort of album a bunch of very aging hipsters would love...

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:58 (two years ago)

or it's a fairly political record about urbanism, UK politics, alienation and yearning for connection and the lyrical content isn't any more distancing to me than songs from Lagos or Tokyo or Brooklyn or wherever

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:02 (two years ago)

I know the Pet Shop Boys/Real Lies comparison has been kicked to death, but honestly I hear those late 90s PSB albums that just sound very bad to my ears. I WISH it sounded more like "West End Girls," because then I'd have something to latch on to. Also, I wish the vocals made me think of Underworld, but instead I think of The Streets and that's positively terrible.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:03 (two years ago)

Enjoyed the real lies album, think I prefer in the same sorta style, 'for those I love' from 2021

nxd, Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:06 (two years ago)

i wouldn't make any claims for Lad Ash in terms of novelty or high drama or "defining a moment" but i don't care about those things really - it's just a finely made album with a vibe that resonates

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:06 (two years ago)

big thief just keep getting better
otm

Real Lies sound better than PSB ever did to my ears, def hear some Weak Become Heroes there but what's not to like abt that

corrs unplugged, Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:41 (two years ago)

^^ suggest ban

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

haha push the button Alfred ;)

corrs unplugged, Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:53 (two years ago)

btw I like the Real Lies album but don't hear PSB unless any Englishman who talk-sings over beats automatically makes him Neil Tennant's heir.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:56 (two years ago)

tragically as an English we have to deal with these lazy stereotypes

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:02 (two years ago)

that's why Tennant-Lowe write songs about you people

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:04 (two years ago)

every time ilm gets into a "sounds like" groove i get the urge to do a pointless meta thread about aesthetics but to condense that urge i'll just say "sounds like" has some very limited specific uses as a critique

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:11 (two years ago)

irony is i'm pretty sure Lad Ash intentionally quotes a shitload of anglo rave tunes but specificity is boring hey

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:17 (two years ago)

this is another album I should have nomd/voted for, this whole Touching Bass scene out of the UK that I’m completely unfamiliar with, really great comp

https://touching-bass.bandcamp.com

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:18 (two years ago)

whoops meant to link to the soon come comp

https://touching-bass.bandcamp.com/album/touching-bass-presents-soon-come

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:19 (two years ago)

every time ilm gets into a "sounds like" groove i get the urge to do a pointless meta thread about aesthetics but to condense that urge i'll just say "sounds like" has some very limited specific uses as a critique


It’s really the worst when people do it after listening to something for the first time, it’s this weird trying to be outsmart the musician stuff

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:21 (two years ago)

brim this is new to me and i feel comfortable after 30 seconds saying fuck yes thanks

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

Love that CKtrl ep (Robyn) on Touching Bass.

xp

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

I think people are overconfident about the reasons “why” they don’t like some music

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

me included

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

The energy of overconfidence makes my sleep sounder on weekday nights.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:24 (two years ago)

dismissing something out of hand is an important human skill

but still

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

Just to clarify, when I mentioned PSB it was to try and explain in very few words what I liked about my first listen to the Real Lies album, but I fully admit it's a lazy habit.

o. nate, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

need to check that touching bass comp, always enjoy their nts show when i catch it

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:26 (two years ago)

sorry if that was a terribly very aging hipster thing to say

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:28 (two years ago)

lol Lad Ash is defiantly unhipster Fred is tilting at avocados

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:32 (two years ago)

we just did a poll of 77 albums, ppl giving their snap reactions and making lazy comparisons is the whole point fuiud

flopson, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:42 (two years ago)

Soft Pink Truth album is great. Jenn Wasner track was a lovely surprise.

Indexed, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:44 (two years ago)

Flopson OTM. These threads are full of people giving their first impression of something they haven’t heard, weird thing to complain about

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:48 (two years ago)

(you should see all the “sounds like…” comparisons on the big thief thread!)

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:49 (two years ago)

hey we're all human

(NARRATOR'S VOICE:)

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:53 (two years ago)

'sounds like' is fine as an approach to orientating yourself with a record, just as long as you're aware that you might be looking at emtirely the wrong map

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:00 (two years ago)

Well, sure. I think it’s a pretty natural way to approach something new (I don’t get how it’s “trying to outsmart the artist” or whatever)

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:11 (two years ago)

just as long as you're aware that you might be looking at emtirely the wrong map

map, like many of us, doesn't mind being looked at.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:13 (two years ago)

It can also be interesting to see how others hear things that you don’t hear, even if you think they’re sort of off-base. I remember, back in the ‘90s, recommending Built to Spill to a guy I knew who was into jammy music; I thought they might appeal to him. And he said: “I didn’t like it at all… it reminded me of the Flaming Lips, who I can’t stand.” I was like, huh? those bands are nothing alike… But then I realized how the vocals could sound similar; and maybe other aspects of the music that don’t fit together for me, but might for someone coming from a different frame of reference.

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:20 (two years ago)

(In other words, I guess, there may be other “maps” that make a kind of sense, even if some of them do lead totally off into the weeds)

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:22 (two years ago)

Think my point was "sounds like" has some value but not in terms of lazy dismissal

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:24 (two years ago)

Having said that, lazy dismissal is totally valid, just save words and say " I hate it"

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:25 (two years ago)

I remember recommending Joy Division to a friend who was like "interesting, reminds me of The Doors" and my first thought was that didn't make any sense since those bands have little in common, but then I thought some more about it and then it seemed like an interesting perspective, I can see how Ian Curtis' vocals could remind you of Jim Morrison's

corrs unplugged, Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:28 (two years ago)

ugh this reminds me of music that's good, fuck that

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:33 (two years ago)

Brad I quite like the Doors don't make me do the obvious punchline

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:56 (two years ago)

somewhat ironically i've just discovered that real lies actually remixed the pet shop boys in 2016, sounds pretty much like real lies with meil tennant on vocals

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:58 (two years ago)

that's right, meil tennant

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:59 (two years ago)

So, it sounds like Pet Shop Boys

J/k

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 February 2023 21:59 (two years ago)

neil lies

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:06 (two years ago)

Pet Shop Lads

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:15 (two years ago)

i mean, lazy comparison or no, i like the fact that real lies basically struck me right away as "pet shop boys but if they were born twenty years later."

sidebar: worked with a guy in the early 2000s who was a couple years older than me and had never heard joy division. he listened to the first album, came back, and told me he already didn't like the doors or velvet underground that much, so he certainly didn't need to hear "second generation brits be sad about it." no idea what he actually meant by that lol. but you wanna talk snobbery, yeah this guy was pretty good at it.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:15 (two years ago)

how much did Jack Black look like him

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:18 (two years ago)

I don’t completely get the pet shop boys thing, is it because they did spoken wordy stuff on a few of their biggest songs?

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:18 (two years ago)

I spent two days trying to work out a sprechegesang joke for Billy Woods so I'm not blameless here tbh

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:21 (two years ago)

I know I’m being weird, it just always sounds like “weird things your parents said about music” or whatever with the snap judgements

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:22 (two years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/dYSDh7i.gif

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:22 (two years ago)

I've said it before but they specifically sound like Underworld remixing East 17's cover of West End Girls. That's definitive

or something, Saturday, 4 February 2023 23:24 (two years ago)

at its base, the psb comparison is oversimplification. at worst, it's derogatory to both sides. it's not the best descriptor, but comparisons to other bands rarely are.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Saturday, 4 February 2023 23:31 (two years ago)

I remember recommending Joy Division to a friend who was like "interesting, reminds me of The Doors" and my first thought was that didn't make any sense since those bands have little in common, but then I thought some more about it and then it seemed like an interesting perspective, I can see how Ian Curtis' vocals could remind you of Jim Morrison's

Wasn't Jim Morrison one of IC's biggest influences? "Reminds me of the Doors" was my immediate reaction the first time I heard Closer.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 February 2023 23:37 (two years ago)

Wasn't Jim Morrison one of IC's biggest influences?

yep

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 February 2023 23:46 (two years ago)

The Cassandra Jenkins thread is another recent one that I recall had a lot of (productive, IMO) artist-comparisoning going on

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Sunday, 5 February 2023 00:02 (two years ago)

(I think I’m particularly prone to “this reminds me of so-and-so” when I hear something new, but I never mean it to be reductive, just as a way of orienting myself)

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Sunday, 5 February 2023 00:05 (two years ago)

I finally got through my first listen of Real Lies and do think the second half is good. Have never been a fan of talk-singing so I'm not sure how much this is for me. That being said, I'm really looking forward to playing it a second time.

Bee OK, Sunday, 5 February 2023 00:16 (two years ago)

That said, I was going to give this album a pass because all the PSB/New Order/synthpop comparisons didn't particularly entice me until someone said it's more like Underworld. I'm glad because it grew on me a few tracks in and was quite a pleasant listen. They're not really working with standard pop song forms that much or prioritizing vocal melody most of the time to my ears. More like moody atmospheric post-techno beats with spoken emo lyrics, which strikes me as fairly novel, though I'm not a bobbins head.xps

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2023 01:12 (two years ago)

I've said it before but they specifically sound like Underworld remixing East 17's cover of West End Girls. That's definitive

― or something

East 17 have always been the obvious reference point to me. This description is even more perfect though.

kitchen person, Sunday, 5 February 2023 01:20 (two years ago)

Just noticed that the color squares on the Dawn Richard/Zahn album is actually the tracklist. That’s smart, love that cover even more.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 5 February 2023 03:32 (two years ago)

Thanks poll runners. I wasn't very present for this because I barely listened to any new albums this year and I'm also on holiday. But I'm super pleased Big Thief made number 2 as that is a very important album to me. Will def be checking out a few more of these

the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2023 05:01 (two years ago)

Sund4r that's a good take I think, that's how I hear it too.

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 5 February 2023 05:11 (two years ago)

I think other real lies fans might be into some of this dj heartbeat x teleshop ep, like this track sort of flies in the same-ish lane

https://djheartstring.bandcamp.com/track/late-night

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Sunday, 5 February 2023 06:16 (two years ago)

Wasn't Jim Morrison one of IC's biggest influences?

didn't realize! would love to hear a joy division cover of the crystal ship

Real Lie’s music is about dance music rather than being dance music, just as the lyrics often concern hedonism but you wouldn’t necessarily play them at a house party

good writing in that dazed article

corrs unplugged, Sunday, 5 February 2023 09:55 (two years ago)

i wouldn't make any claims for Lad Ash in terms of novelty or high drama or "defining a moment"

if anything, the appeal is how much they push back against this - no bold claims to having answers or significance, just an admittance that the small everyday pleasures of casual hedonism are comforting in their ephemerality

boxedjoy, Sunday, 5 February 2023 09:55 (two years ago)

i lean on the "well-wrought urn" thing too much when i'm pished especially but that's it, the whole experience

the whole record is just very my life, other experiences are available

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 09:57 (two years ago)

I've been very busy the past few weeks so I didn't get a chance to nominate and I've not even really read this full thread properly, but I'm sure I'll have a lot of better thoughts later once I have. In the meantime I'm amazed and happy to see this as the winner for the year, it would have easily been my own #1 as well, and I want to say a thank you to everyone who took part in compiling these results and revealing them, great work as always.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 5 February 2023 09:58 (two years ago)

i never do this usually but i needed to express love for Real Lies, Rema and Kabza tbh

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 10:10 (two years ago)

Aaaaaahhhh this Jeff Parker album is incredible! Sad that I'm only hearing it now/glad that enough other people heard it to ensure it placed high.

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

Big Thief and Real Lies having so many #1 votes compared to anything else is fascinating. Is this a result of the thread for those two acts/albums just happening to have carried enough momentum throughout the year (Real Lies album had such a long build-up in particular) and just the the right level of organic interest and good discussion (or just enthusiasm) within them (minus any 'controversy' aspect) to inspire this much passion each? Tho I love it I'm still surprised just how well Real Lies has done here.

nashwan, Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:38 (two years ago)

The 'sounds like' thing is instructive with *Lad Ash* I think, partly because although it conjures a bunch of associations, none of them quite nail it. Which is to say, despite the soundworld being relatively familiar, it's very much its own thing. What hooked me, what kept cutting through, was the unashamed romanticism of it. We've been hoodwinked by irony - so much that I assumed I was deliberately cutting out the irony of it and finding the romance of it almost incidentally. It wasn't until sitting with the whole album that it became obvious the romance was the point of the project and that I was included. I've got all that suburban emptiness at the heart of me, and have sat on the same hills still believing hedonism is a good proxy for achieving something, creating something.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

yeah i feel that, good post

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

didn't realize! would love to hear a joy division cover of the crystal ship

Heh just found out about this: https://www.reverbnation.com/djrudec/song/19246485-joy-division-vs-doors-break-on

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:05 (two years ago)

just as long as you're aware that you might be looking at emtirely the wrong map

map, like many of us, doesn't mind being looked at.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, February 4, 2023 9:13 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lol i see u

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:14 (two years ago)

my meaningless chime-in is that i like lad ash a lot and i'm glad it won this poll, has a feeling of the underdog to it that i can get behind, but i haven't really listened to it more than once because it's a little too melancholy for me these days? lol my twenty-something self would have scoffed at that.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:17 (two years ago)

yea I have a similar thing map, it doesnt help that it came out right around the time of a very substantial loss in my life, its just too much at times.

I think its kind of slight in certain ways and great in other ways, which is an awesome combo for an ilx cause celebre imo , generally support it even tho / possibly because it does betray ilx's weaknesses sensibility wise

xheugy eddy (D-40), Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:33 (two years ago)

All of this talk of whether we're allowed to say they sound like Underworld or New Order or Pet Shop boys is fine but me, I'd LOVE to know if those lads had heard Disco Inferno.

kraudive, Sunday, 5 February 2023 21:13 (two years ago)

Ahah I posed this same question in the RL thread and was even compelled to DM them and ask. Crickets though. I hear a strong echo of DI.

anza808, Sunday, 5 February 2023 21:44 (two years ago)

I think its kind of slight in certain ways and great in other ways

agree with this

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 5 February 2023 21:59 (two years ago)

no bold claims to having answers or significance, just an admittance that the small everyday pleasures of casual hedonism are comforting in their ephemerality

boxedjoy otm too, this is their strongest quality imo. my fav of theirs is "unreal (wander mix)". the beat is a good club roller and those lyrics about "making the rounds" hit that "everyday casual pleasures" vibe right on.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 5 February 2023 22:04 (two years ago)

really taken an instant like to that Billy Woods album

calzino, Sunday, 5 February 2023 22:28 (two years ago)

Announcing here that I'm gonna need one more week to start the tracks poll. Expect that to start on Monday the 13th!

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2023 22:45 (two years ago)

:(

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:08 (two years ago)

Marked it in my calendar.

Lad ash a great winner. Lot of talk about the emotions and conceptions it evokes (for good reason), but listening again the other night I found a new appreciation for it as a technical work. The synths and the beats strike with the same amount of care and refinement that you get from BOC’s music has the right. Cut out all the vocals and lyrics and it still stands as a great piece of music.

Lead singers voice is so weak/vulnerable, makes my heart break hearing him sing. Lovely album

hrep (H.P), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:18 (two years ago)

Took me a second to realize you weren't talking about Blue Oyster Cult

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:50 (two years ago)

lol

hrep (H.P), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:52 (two years ago)

Maybe all great pop music is slight in certain ways. It’s part of the charm.

o. nate, Monday, 6 February 2023 00:25 (two years ago)

I was reading our 2021 poll and had completely forgotten about this exchange.

You don't need to be Nostradamus to know with about 90% confidence who's going to win both this poll and the 2022 one, lol

― imago, Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:09 PM (eleven months ago)

I'm with you on this year, but what's the 2022 one?

― rob, Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:10 PM (eleven months ago)

Lol I mean Big Thief obviously right let's move on

― imago, Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:13 PM (eleven months ago)

As for next year, might as well get an early prediction in for Real Lies taking it.

― kitchen person, Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:22 PM (eleven months ago)

kitchen person, Monday, 6 February 2023 05:26 (two years ago)

(if we do a poll this year, i am increasingly thinking lad ash may win best album)
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, November 1, 2022 5:57 AM

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 06:35 (two years ago)

someone alert the mypillow guy

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 06:35 (two years ago)

what the hell are these lyrics on the beyonce album

imago, Monday, 6 February 2023 12:14 (two years ago)

she fell in love so she quit her job?

corrs unplugged, Monday, 6 February 2023 12:15 (two years ago)

this is some insanely vapid and pointless stuff

imago, Monday, 6 February 2023 12:17 (two years ago)

can it be true

nashwan, Monday, 6 February 2023 12:36 (two years ago)

'all up in your mind' is good. these are gritted, gritted teeth

imago, Monday, 6 February 2023 12:57 (two years ago)

Had a work disaster last week so couldn't focus on the rollout. Makaya McCraven would have been my #1 if I voted - glad it was so high.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Monday, 6 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

on that one atm. enjoyable so far

imago, Monday, 6 February 2023 13:25 (two years ago)

Fans of Makaya McCraven and the Jeff Parker album shouldn't skip Anna Butterss - Activities, which fell short of the top 77. She also played bass on the latter album.

Chris L, Monday, 6 February 2023 13:48 (two years ago)

co-signing that

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Monday, 6 February 2023 14:09 (two years ago)

Checking it out

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 February 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

I'm a Bonnie Raitt fan in general but that song is some treacle, jeez. But there were so many big-name contenders in that category I guess she benefited from there not being an obvious pop fave, which meant the Boomer nostalgia votes were enough to win.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 6 February 2023 14:44 (two years ago)

lol meant that for the Grammys thread.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 6 February 2023 14:45 (two years ago)

This album is fantastic and I’m mad at myself for missing it last year.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 February 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

Just noticed that the color squares on the Dawn Richard/Zahn album is actually the tracklist. That’s smart, love that cover even more.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, February 4, 2023 9:32 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Cool!

Indexed, Monday, 6 February 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

I missed most of Friday, but hadn't heard Real Lies and thought it was something very different (more part of the post-punk revival, I guess).

Lots of stuff on my ballot that didn't make the 77, like -
-Hudson Mohawke (my #1)
-JD Beck and DOMI
-Daniel Rossen

And a bunch of jazz and electronic stuff that I knew didn't have a shot. But all the same I'm into the results and have made some good discoveries.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 6 February 2023 15:34 (two years ago)

i've tried to listen to the real lies album a couple of times and it is impossible for me to pay attention to, my brain immediately processes it as "music you hear in the dressing room at express" and ignores it. chalk this up to personal ignorance rather than any statement of quality

dawn richardson and shabason/krgovich albums both seem good but are too mellow/wispy for me right now. they hate change is still my favorite discovery from the poll.

na (NA), Monday, 6 February 2023 16:15 (two years ago)

dawn richard (and spencer zahn), sorry

na (NA), Monday, 6 February 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

I used to hear all kinds of good house music at express, hipster icon Lindstrom even!

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 6 February 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

sometimes cool people with good taste work for the music consulting companies that program playlists for retail stores. my friend used to do that, sounded like a dream job tbh

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 6 February 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

oh yah, was very pleased to hear Kelis's "4th of July" at the mall during Christmas shopping

Indexed, Monday, 6 February 2023 16:58 (two years ago)

HudMo album did seem like his best work since most of 'Butter'

Shame Ibibio Sound Machine was 78'd

nashwan, Monday, 6 February 2023 16:58 (two years ago)

Yeah, it's got some of that 'anything goes' Butter energy along with being his euphoric dance record that really connects to his gabber roots, I think it's really underrated.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:01 (two years ago)

Yeah the ISM is solid. Didn't know Hot Chip produced until recently.

Indexed, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:01 (two years ago)

uh...nor did I!

nashwan, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:06 (two years ago)

I have only one problem with the Anna B. record, and it is a tiresome complaint people are sick of hearing me make.

There’s no CD version for me to buy

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

hmm

I don't know jazz very well but what I do know is that Universal Beings was brilliant, coruscating, wild stuff. In These Times is nice enough but it feels really neutered and safe in comparison. if I was a cynical man I'd say the neat packaging of McCraven into an approachable, easier-listening slice of softness was...a good commercial decision. now someone tell me why I'm wrong and why this goes harder than UB

imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 09:20 (two years ago)

OMG what a boring frame for those two albums

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 09:43 (two years ago)

I feel like we need to commission Jody Beth Rosen to lead classes where she helps people to move past critical dichotomies predicated on "brilliant, wild, coruscating" (GOOD) vs "approachable, easier-listening slice of softness" (BAD).

But in any event the idea of a pivot to (relatively) softer sounds being a good decision commercially at this particular moment when relative crossover from jazz to other audiences (unless you're chasing that norah jones first album crowd) is absolutely predicated on enticing listeners who are looking for jazz that "goes harder" is just crazy nonsensical projection.

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 09:48 (two years ago)

i am going to reeducate myself with this junior boys album

imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 10:01 (two years ago)

Tim resoundingly otm

just mean and full of beans tbh (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 10:02 (two years ago)

'oh nice, this junior boys album perked up!'

'oh it's nilufer yanya'

lol sorry. i will try to find all this hard progressive weirdo jazz that's so in vogue, the mould-breaking softness of the new mccraven clearly too bold of a step for me to process

imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 10:36 (two years ago)

Half of me wants to give you suggestions, and half of me wants to roll my eyes at your petulance at being challenged over a dumb binary that you are too smart to continue unreflexively applying

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 10:43 (two years ago)

no i do get why this MM album is an interesting artistic move. rather than letting it rip in an improvisatory and sonically open-ended setting, these are attempts at control and composition and that is ofc valuable; quite a few of them seem to work rather well. it is ofc my own prejudice in favour of sonic extravagance that sees me hark back to the 'wilder' stuff he did before, but as a fan of eloquent composition i'm equally happy to hear jazz that works within tighter bounds. that comet is coming album was a good example of something that worked within simple-ish (although still discursive) song-structures but had the sonic oomph i'm after. helped that it was basically a techno album lol

i wish i had the patience and sophistication to spot when a lot is being done within a little. i guess that's what this junior boys album has done. to me it wasn't an unpleasant listen but i don't think i'm equipped with something - patience, knowledge, expectation - that'd attune me to its subtleties

imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 10:59 (two years ago)

it's been nearly 17 years and tim f still schooling me lol, truly i admire his own patience above all

imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:00 (two years ago)

lmao it is literally called 'waiting game' THE CLUE IS IN THE TITLE

imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:01 (two years ago)

'Night Walk' is fine but the Junior Boys album just went in one ear and out the other on first listen.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:27 (two years ago)

what is going very well for me, is the nilufer yanya album

imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:34 (two years ago)

belated thanks to the poll runners! it's been great following along (KOA II was too low)

calumerio, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:55 (two years ago)

The equation of aesthetic merit with being impressed (as a listener) is deeply ingrained and probably justified, it's just that being impressed by control and restraint is the other side of the coin where the raw and wild things are. I propose to rename this the SD-SA false dichotomy (for Steely Dan and Steve Albini).

Nabozo, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

This Dawn Richards/Spencer Zahn record is beautiful, like a post-R&B These New Puritans

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 15:19 (two years ago)

When will the tracks rollout begin?

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

Not until next Monday ;_;

emil.y, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 15:28 (two years ago)

It's OK, this is Steely Dan week

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 15:54 (two years ago)

Did we ever find out about the book someone voted for? Intrigued...

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 22:10 (two years ago)

see i love some easier-listening slices of softness but the mccraven album loves its weird time signatures a little too much for it to really fit into that for me

ufo, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 22:19 (two years ago)

And by the same token, I'll bet the time thing going on in the first track is way more intricate than most proggy imago fare (11/16 I think? But meant to sound like a Dilla beat).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 22:44 (two years ago)

I liked the opening track! And a cute time signature on its own doth not extravagance make. I actually gave it all another listen after Tim said his bit and started to see what it was going for a bit more

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 07:37 (two years ago)

still the all time best jazz joke pic.twitter.com/S8W15O8iEq

— alex (@shitshowdotinfo) February 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 10:13 (two years ago)

I was unnecessarily terse the other night - obv people will like what they like. I think Nabozo’s summation above is good though.

Tim F, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 11:56 (two years ago)

oh god no, i absolutely deserve it every time

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 12:06 (two years ago)

The first track / title track of the Hikaru Utada record is quite familiar. It's making me think of an old tv show theme but can't place it. I quite liked that one and the marseille track

saer, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 12:39 (two years ago)

In the upper part of the poll, The Soft Pink Truth is a nice discovery for me, somewhere between Studio and Luomo on my crude map (map isn't crude, I know). I don't mind an album being long when it's vast, springlike, playful, friendly.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 12:55 (two years ago)

Gave the Adigéry a proper listen last night finally - good stuff and like it when the highlights come later in the album (true in my case at least).

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:00 (two years ago)

saer: good to know I’m not the only one, BAD sounds a lot like a tv theme but I’m on the same boat, can’t quite place which one it reminds me of.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:54 (two years ago)

Oh my god, imago, a "cute" time signature? Really? If you're into something and it has one chord that is slightly discordant you'll praise it as unparalleled creative genius, but when given proof that something you're not into uses complex technique you dismiss it as "cute"? That is so patronising.

I know that everyone is susceptible to the "my taste is what is objectively good" fallacy (especially me! I do it so much!) but honestly my dude, you need to rein it in. People are not cowards for making quiet music! Sometimes they choose to intentionally! I genuinely enjoyed your chess reactions b/c it seemed like you were realising that sometimes music can serve other purposes than being all-encompassing extravagance - sometimes it can help you focus, sometimes it can bring you peace. I'm worried this paragraph is moving into me being patronising in turn, so I will stop, but "cute"? Gahhh.

emil.y, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 14:27 (two years ago)

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/cute

meaning 3 intended

i even said in the post that I'd gone back and rethought my approach to the music! it just seems obvious to me that using an unusual time signature isn't on its own a sign that something is going to be an overwhelming or unusual sonic experience, all about the context of such techniques. just like a dissonant chord on its own is nothing without the chords around it!

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:06 (two years ago)

and i was responding in turn to the slightly patronising 'yeah imago thinks everything he likes is soooo complex but can it even 11/16' cmon lol

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

this is what happens with no tracks rollout, we get tetchy. forks' fault this

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

Meaning 3 is definitely patronising, though. It's "affected cleverness", which is basically saying it's pretentious, or "not actually clever but it thinks it is". And I still think you're assuming that overwhelming or unusual are the primary barometers of quality - they are indicators that I will probably like something too, which is why we share a lot of tastes, but they're not the ONLY thing to look for.

ILx polls would be much more boring without you around so I'm not really that tetchy. On the other hand, I genuinely did take offence wrt the "cute" comment, and it's not even an album I've got any stakes in defending.

emil.y, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

next ballot poll: rank time signatures by cuteness

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:32 (two years ago)

i really wasn't intending to imply that the song was pretentious! (i even said i liked it in the original post!) just that yeah okay, it has a neat time signature, which helps it settle into a cool, unusual groove, but it was much more 'relaxing' and 'calming' than 'mindblowing' or 'spectacular'. and yes, i possibly do overrate the latter qualities as compared to the former (insofar as they're distinct; of course there can be overlap!), which as i am always learning on here, not only have their place but can make for music that is very great

as i say, i was also responding to the idea that stuff i like is all mouth and no trousers when it comes to musicality. so maybe there was a TINY edge to the choice of word. but really, i would never call Makaya McCraven pretentious, nor really any other music

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

and i was responding in turn to the slightly patronising 'yeah imago thinks everything he likes is soooo complex but can it even 11/16' cmon lol

You bring it on yourself (or at least bring it out of me, lol). For me, digging into that very unusual time signature for a whole track and really squeezing all the juice out of it, while doing it in this very smooth way that can almost pass unnoticed (in comparison to say, the Horse Lords record which screams POLYRHYTHMS at you, and I like that too), is much more sophisticated than attention deficit-style constant changes. People like what they like of course, but yeah you did come off as a bit dismissive.

xp

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

the guitar solo on "the know untitled" is: "relaxing," "calming," "mindblowing," "spectacular"

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

i guess 'sophistication' is the alchemy by which the relaxing becomes the mindblowing and despite posting here for 17 years i haven't really quite gotten it yet. more Steely Dan required

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

going to use this opportunity to ask whether anyone has any idea what time signature is used on "I Am Damo Suzuki" as the internet seems to have no answer to this.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:45 (two years ago)

no i do get why this MM album is an interesting artistic move. rather than letting it rip in an improvisatory and sonically open-ended setting, these are attempts at control and composition and that is ofc valuable; quite a few of them seem to work rather well. it is ofc my own prejudice in favour of sonic extravagance that sees me hark back to the 'wilder' stuff he did before, but as a fan of eloquent composition i'm equally happy to hear jazz that works within tighter bounds. that comet is coming album was a good example of something that worked within simple-ish (although still discursive) song-structures but had the sonic oomph i'm after. helped that it was basically a techno album lol

what are you talking about? mcraven was hardly a free jazz guy and his work process was always assembling loops from session and constructing records going back to in the moment. i feel like you just make shit up sometimes.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

it seems like two different parts in 4/4 that don't quite sync up with each other

xp

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

but there is an underlying rhythm behind both of them, somewhere, I can feel it

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:56 (two years ago)

I mean both drums and the guitar parts

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:56 (two years ago)

i think it's in 4/4 with the occasional bar in 3 thrown in

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:00 (two years ago)

maybe for the drums - but also bear in mind the guitar parts, they sound completely out of sync but there is some sort of underlying rhythm behind both.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

what are you talking about? mcraven was hardly a free jazz guy and his work process was always assembling loops from session and constructing records going back to in the moment. i feel like you just make shit up sometimes.

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:50 (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i get that 'universal beings' was a studio creation too but it definitely feels much looser (and at times noisier) than the new one, to me! forgive me if they are made exactly the same way

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

i mean this has a different feel, but i think that's the mark of a great artist, a lot of his albums have different a different character to a degree but they all feel very of a piece (imo)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:16 (two years ago)

The drums are in 4/4, the guitar is sometimes synced up in a straightforward 4/4 phrase and sometimes phasing or off.. if it was a more recent album I'd guess it was done on a computer or a sampler, since way easier to chop an odd loop or slide things around than play it. Maybe just an intentionally odd use of a delay or misaligned tape?

xp I know there's a thread for asking what time signature something is but I can't find it

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

Yeah MM's whole thing is chopping up pieces of live recordings and studio sessions to make his records, they've always been a blend of live & constructed. Some were definitely more lo-fi for sure.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:23 (two years ago)

off to start a new poll: cutest time signature

i'm voting 3/4 because awwwwwwww look how funny he walks but he's still able to do it!! great job, friend!

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

On "Damo Suzuki" I think what's happening is that the drum pattern is off a half-beat from the bass and guitar line. They're all in 4/4 but out of sync. But also the guitar and bass wander around a lot, not in a time signature way but in a "not always on the beat" way.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:26 (two years ago)

If you get the chance to see MM live, you may see him in a noisier, freer mode (you also may not). When I saw him last summer, I was a bit surprised that his band opened with an AACM "little instruments" style free improv — that might've been mostly down to the presence of Junius Paul, who iirc is an active AACM member, but as ums said it's testament to his impressive range, skill, and sensitivity as an artist & collaborator. Anyway, very little of what they played that night sounded much like any of the albums.

This discussion prompted me to listen to In These Times on headphones yesterday for the first time in a while — in partial defense of imago I do think it's easy to slip into thinking of this extremely pretty album as background music, and I'd gotten into the habit of playing it primarily during dinner with friends — and there were details in the mix I hadn't noticed before. The soft beauty of the album is built out of intricate materials

rob, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

Hadn't thought of this before, but the difference between the titles In the Moment and In These Times strikes me as significant for the differing approaches taken, even merely at the banal level of how long he worked on the latter

rob, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

tipsy mothra, that's how I hear it as well

xxp

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

For whatever it’s worth, the new one felt a lot more inviting to me than Universal Beings did - but maybe I’ve changed.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:26 (two years ago)

in these times he definitely leans more into orchestration, the strings and harp, sort of david axelrod vibes that make it feel unique in his catalog

If you get the chance to see MM live, you may see him in a noisier, freer mode (you also may not). When I saw him last summer, I was a bit surprised that his band opened with an AACM "little instruments" style free improv

interesting, the one time i saw him was a the walker art center and he was playing this composed piece that spliced in spoken word/interviews from civil rights activists with a sort of meditative art film presentation that had been created for the show, i think this might have been a one-off performance though

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:27 (two years ago)

When I saw him last it was a trio with Junius Paul and a guitarist, tons of polyrhythmic drumming and soloing. Missed him with a larger group (at a larger venue) last time but I heard it was fantastic and intense.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:31 (two years ago)

ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2022: 17th Anniversary Edition

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 February 2023 05:55 (two years ago)

slowly working my way through the spotify list.

so far

love and knew it

real lies
big thief
the soft pink truth
makaya mccraven

love it and didn't know it before

sudan archives
junior boys (this is not what i thought they were like, i guess i thought they were like basement jaxx or something?)
dawn richards & spencer zahn

like it
rosalia
SZA
beyonce
the beths (i think future me hates me is always gonna be "the one" for me)

not for me

charlotte adigery & bolis pupal

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 15:09 (two years ago)

The latest Junior Boys album is a bit of a shift for them, they were more moody synth-pop before (so never really like Basement Jaxx)

Vinnie, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 15:15 (two years ago)

may have confused junior boys with vague memories of junior senior

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 15 February 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

i should’ve voted for the asake album

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 15:36 (two years ago)

may have confused junior boys with vague memories of junior senior

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, February 15, 2023 9:20 AM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha i think that's it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

I think junior boys may be junior senior's children?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 16:18 (two years ago)

no that's junior senior jr.

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

I was today years old when I learned that Senior co-wrote and co-produced Born This Way...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

if senior was born this way, does that mean that junior was born that way too?

(sorry, we’re having a bit of a lull on the tracks rollout thread)

let us now celebrate ama ‘piano’ smith & the clowns (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 17:22 (two years ago)

I just learned that a month or so ago!

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

their sound is clearly junior boys' own thing

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 17:37 (two years ago)


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