My non-festive 50!

he Mahavishnu Orchestra With John McLaughlin - The Inner Mounting Flame

Got into this album recently (and their stuff in general), so this one

Out to Lunch

Big John Patton - Let Em Roll

Whats this?

Big John Patton - Let Em Roll

Whats this?

― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B),

Soul Jazz

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Jesus I know next to none of these albums! Making a big playlist of them all now

Voted for Search For The New Land because it's one of those albums that makes everyone who hears it say, "Fuck — this is LEE MORGAN? The Sidewinder guy?"

Brass Construction yay!

Amazing list, I had to cut Hank Mobley and Billy Cobham from mine, so one of those. Mahavishnu is up there too.

excellent list, voted Mwandishi

First time I took mushrooms one of the participants put on Inner Mounting Flame and I fled outside to listen to traffic going by. I like it fine otherwise.

What a great list. "Hot Buttered Soul" may be the first one that would definitely be on a list of mine that I've not seen make an appearance on any other list yet.

I've made a spotify playlist with every album on it (except the Ornette isn't available)

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4RrDDwL8qHPV33XzeVWble?si=2b44809f9c714950

I would have asked a mod to put the link in my 1st post, but I don't think its possible to edit poll threads?

no can do

Going with Out To Lunch here, Spectrum is a somewhat distant 2nd.

I pretty much knew I'd vote for Ayler from the start, and I did. But I love a bunch of these.

Love this list.

I'd happily spend time with any of these albums, but went with Spectrum as the personal pick that I got when I was super young and have spent the most time with.

OMG, some of my favorite jazz albums ever up in here...Betty Davis was making a case for herself but I think Mwandishi is the winner

god, so many great albums here i can't decide

i've been on a real mahavishnu orchestra kick lately. i'm going through every live recording i've been able to track down of the original lineup (about 90, give or take a few). hell of a live act.

Brass Construction because its also one of my top 50 ever

It’s between Giant Steps and Brilliant Corners, tough choice.

Went for Out to Lunch. It's neither the jazz album I have listened to the most, I hesitated to include it or Iron Man in my list, but I have memories of being glued to the speaker and waiting anxiously for every note.
High five for Curtis, Betty Davis, Henderson, Art Blakey and all that post-bop. I need to listen to Electric Byrd, cause I love Ethiopian Knights.

It's great to see some people also love Brass Construction. Its a terrific album.

The other day I did compile a fave albums of the 1980s (one pick per act) I'm not going to poll them and bore ILM but I may as well post it here for posterity.

Its a top 100 then a longlist of what just missed out.

1)Husker Du - Zen Arcade,
2)Joy Division - Closer
3)Big Black - Atomizer ,
4)Pixies - Surfer Rosa ,
5)Sonic Youth - EVOL ,
6)Jane's Addiction - Nothings Shocking,
7)Godflesh - Streetcleaner ,
8)Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime ,
9)Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus ,
10)Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden,
11)The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses,
12)Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back ,
13) Dinosaur Jr- You're Living All Over Me ,
14)Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion ,
15)Trouble - Psalm 9
16)Saint Vitus - Born Too Late -
17)Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician ,
18)Killing Joke - s/t
19)Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark ,
20)Bad Brains - Bad Brains,

Black Flag - Damaged ,
Discharge - Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
De La Soul - 3 Foot High & Rising
Slayer - Reign in Blood,
Meat Puppets - II,
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything ,
Redd Kross - Neurotica
The Gun Club - Fire of Love ,

30)Galaxie 500 - On Fire
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine ,
Nirvana - Bleach ,
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic ,
Screaming Trees - Buzz Factory,
Mutiny - Funk Plus The One
The Young Gods - L'eau Rouge,
David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
Descendents - Milo Goes To College .
Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription ,

40)The Cure - Pornography ,
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy ,
The Pop Group – For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder?
The Raincoats - Odyshape ,
Throwing Muses - Throwing Muses
Echo and The Bunnymen - Crocodiles
The Cocteau Twins - Treasure
Fugazi - 13 Songs
This Heat - Deceit
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique

50)Faith No More - The Real Thing
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath ,
Glenn Branca - The Ascension ,
Ministry - Land Of Rape & Honey,
Loop - Heaven's End,
Hanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks Saigon Shakes Hanoi Rocks ,
Bolt Thrower - Realm Of Chaos
Coroner - No Color
Circle Jerks - Group Sex

60)Cirith Ungol - Frost & Fire
Adolescents- Adolescents ,
John Foxx - Metamatic
AC/DC - Back in Black
The Replacements - Let It Be ,
The Smiths - The Smiths ,
George Clinton - Computer Games
The Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight
The Sound - From the Lions Mouth ,
The Comsat Angels - Waiting for a Miracle

70)King Crimson - Discipline ,
Mission of Burma - Vs. ,
Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 ,
Masters of Reality - Masters of Reality
Slave - Stone Jam
Rites of Spring - Rites of Spring ,
Prince - Dirty Mind
R.E.M. - Murmur ,
Rain Parade - Emergency Third Rail Power Trip ,
Kraftwerk - Computer World,

80)Magazine - The Correct Use of Soap
King Diamond - Abigail ,
Pharoah Sanders - Journey to the One
Motörhead - Ace of Spades
Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff,
N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton ,
Neil Young - Freedom ,
Orange Juice - You Can't Hide Your Love Forever,
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of Ozz
Pagan Altar - Pagan Altar ,

90)Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
Roky Erickson and The Aliens - Roky Erickson and the Aliens (5 Symbols)
Soundgarden - Ultramega OK ,
Squirrel Bait - Skag Heaven ,
Steely Dan - Gaucho
Suicidal Tendencies - Suicidal Tendencies ,
Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell
Blue Nile - Hats
Danzig - Danzig ,
Swans - Children of God ,
100)Sweat Band - Sweat Band

bubbling under ...

ABC - Lexicon Of Love
Adam and The Ants - Kings of The Wild Frontier
Al Di Meola - Splendido Hotel
American Music Club - United Kingdom
Angel Witch - Angel Witch
Anthony Davis - Lady of the Mirrors
Arthur Russell - World Of Echo
Band Of Susans - Hope Against Hope,
Bastro - Diablo Guapo
Bauhaus - In the Flat Field
Beat Happening - Black Candy
Big Country - The Crossing
Bitch Magnet - Umber
Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus
Bob Mould - Workbook ,
Bobby Beausoleil and The Freedom Orchestra - Lucifer Rising
Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.,
Cameo - Cameosis
Camper Van Beethoven - Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart
Captain Beefheart - Doc at the Radar Station
Chrome - Red Exposure
Coil - Horse Rotorvator,
Dag Nasty - Can I say
David Murray Octet - Ming
Death - Leprosy
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Depeche Mode - Music For The Masses
Devo - Freedom of Choice
Dexys Midnight Runners - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels
Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
Dio - Holy Diver,
Donald Fagen - The Nightfly
Embrace - Embrace
Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full
Flipper - Album: Generic Flipper ,
Front Line Assembly - Gashed Senses & Crossfire
Gang Of Four - Solid Gold
Giant Sand - Valley of Rain
Godfathers - Birth, School, Work, Death.
Gore - Mean Man's Dream .
Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
Grant Hart - Intolerance
Green on Red - Gas Food Lodging ,
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Happy Mondays - Bummed
Head Of David - Head Of David,
Hellhammer - Satanic Rites ,
Jack DeJohnette - Special Edition
James 'Blood' Ulmer - Are You Glad to Be in America?
Japan - Gentlemen Take Polaroids
Joe Farrell - Sonic Text
Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance ,
Julian Cope - Fried ,
Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love
Lloyd Cole and The Commotions - Rattlesnakes
Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams
Material - Memory Serves
Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? ,
Melvins - Ozma,
Minor Threat - Out Of Step
Moebius & Plank - Rastakraut Pasta
Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
Napalm Death - Scum
New Order - Technique
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Tender Prey
Paul Chain Violet Theater - Detaching From Satan,
Pentagram - Pentagram ,
Pet Shop Boys - Introspective ,
Peter Hammill - A Black Box
Phantom Band - Phantom Band
Ramones - End Of the Century
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
Richard & Linda Thompson - Shoot Out The Lights
Rick James - Street Songs ,
Sam Rivers - Contrasts
Saxon - Wheels Of Steel
Scott Walker - Climate Of Hunter
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - Hole,
Scratch Acid - Scratch Acid
Scream - Still Screaming
Sepultura - Beneath The Remains
Simple Minds - New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84)
Sisters Of Mercy - Floodland
Slint - Tweez
Stiff Little Fingers - Nobody's Heroes
Suicide - Alan Vega · Martin Rev
Sun Ra - Strange Celestial Road
Swell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"
Tad - God's Balls
Talking Heads - Remain In Light
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Terry Riley - Shri Camel
The Birthday Party - Prayers on Fire ,
The Chameleons - Script Of The Bridge
The Cult - Love ,
The Durutti Column - The Return Of...
The Fall - This Nations Saving Grace
The Go-Betweens - Before Hollywood
The Human League - Travelogue
The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & The Lash
The Specials - More Specials
The Stone City Band - Presents the Stone City Band- In 'n' Out
The Teardrop Explodes - Kilimanjaro
The Waterboys - Fisherman's Blues ,
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
Tuxedo Moon - Half-Mute
U2 - Boy
Venom - Welcome to Hell,
Vic Godard & Subway Sect - What's The Matter Boy?
Voivod - Nothingface
Weather Report - Night Passage
Wipers - Is This Real?
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty ,
X - Los Angeles
XTC - Skylarking
Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth

damnit, I killed the thread

Im amused that there's a funk band called Roger

It's Roger Troutman's (from Zapp) solo album!

https://i.imgur.com/3QFxF8K.jpg

recently discovered that and it is amazing

It really is. I've had it on vinyl since the 90s when I found one. I think it's better than the Zapp albums.

Im listening to it now. Great stuff. I've definitely heard "so ruff, so tuff" before. Or was it sampled in a Dre production?

it's sampled on Paul's Boutique!

BABYBABYBABYBABY

“chunk of sugar” imo

I'd bet that a fair bit of the artists in this poll have been sampled.

Xpost Sleeve:oh yeah I thought it was a g-funk at first

Flamenco-ish guitar in "Max Axe" is a pleasant surprise. What a banger that is

I just realised I haven't voted! I might vote for the brilliant Mutiny album as its the best pfunk spin-off album and it deserves a vote.

I’ve only heard (and indeed owned) two of these: Isaac Hayes and Rick James. Voting Rick James - that’s a great album.

I thought you would be a funk fan?

I did a second poll G I M M E I N D I E- R O C K : FIFTY 1990-2010 albums Important To Me (and not a floppy fringe in sight!)

the jazz & funk is getting lost vote jazz & funk!

Listened to the Brass Construction album today. Forgot how awesome that one is.

It really is. Its a smoking funk album. I wish I'd included a BT Express album too. Have you heard them, mike?

amazing how cheap those great Brass Construction LPs are on Discogs

I have the 1st one on CD which was purchased in the 90s. I have II on lp found cheap 2nd hand late 90s. Sadly with shipping LPs from the US aren't cheap anymore.

Ive never heard BT Express, similar super funky voib to Brass Construction?

Similar funky proto-disco. I bet you have heard them but didn't know it.

I really should have included this BT Express album

https://open.spotify.com/album/1aa8r527b20tcJqd7RdFeP?si=haHU3VDHQeuS29ZRSFbkig

I guarantee you, that you know the title song.

Pretty sure i used to play it in plug.dj

It doesn't ring a bell but I like it, listening to the album. Some nice loose strut funk

The title track was a big hit, so I'm surprised you don't know it.

Jeff Lane was the producer behind both Brass Construction and BT Express.

I wish I'd given this thread a better title.

Makes me think of Xmas every time I see it. Has there ever been a Xmas themed funk record?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/dec/23/10-of-the-best-christmas-soul-and-funk

Back Door Santa lol

That sounds either very rude or its a reverse santa stealing the presents!

Not that NOW is the time but I'd love to do a poll one day of (my headcanon of) disco funk albums. Superficially funk but with an obvious disco/chant/12"-friendly kick. Imo there's two strands - America (Brass Construction, Slave, Brick, late 70s War, Con Funk Shun, BT Express, Mass Production, Crown Heights Affair) and then there is its descendant, early Britfunk my beloved (Hi-Tension, Light of the World, Atmosfear, Incognito, Freeez, Beggar & Co., Linx, Beggar & Co). What unites them is that they all made at least one knockout album (if not in some cases more).

You should do it. Disco is way more popular on ILM than jazz and funk

I'll keep it in mind for another time.

Yeah, it probably would get lost just now.

I do have an all-time list of albums btw I made 2 years ago. I wouldn't dream of polling it (its 250 albums long) but if there was a thread where everyone posted their lists, just for posterity, I'd post it on that. Except I doubt anyone could care less about my top 250 albums!

grant green's alive is so good, sometimes think it is the best live record, and recorded in one evening? in a club? what a night out that must have been

Most of the Grant Green live albums released are smoking hot. Must've been amazing to see him live.

I should have included Jimmy Smith - Root Down. Would have loved to have been there.

Yeah, Grant Green's Live at the Lighthouse is equally awesome.
(his solos from that era are a little samey, but I can't get enough of that vibe, so I'm fine with the monotony)

If it ain't broke...

I hope there's more 70s live grant green still to come. I need to hear it.

If anyone reading hasn't heard the Sweat Band and Mutiny albums then they should as its the best of the pfunk spin offs. I'm sad I cut the Quazar album off my list too as thats top notch pfunk.

What about Fatback Band - Keep On Steppin'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czdcjphhBHA

ooh yeah, another band I love. I had to leave out a bunch of things like War, Baby Huey, Funk Inc, Bar-Kays, Tower of Power and more.

I should just have done one jazz and one funk poll

out of the ones i havent listened to; what would you recommend?

I dunno what all you have heard?? So, all of them!

think i gotta give brass construction some love

these for starters:

Andrew Hill - Black Fire
Archie Shepp - Fire Music
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Free For All
Betty Davis - They Say I'm Different
Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures
Fela Kuti - Open & Close
Freddie Hubbard - Straight Life
Hank Mobley - Soul Station
Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond

Definitely all of them!

if you want fire, then go for the Shepp

i also love the andrew hill, probably my favorite jazz pick here but i need to hear more of these.

as well as being amazing, Andrew Hill is an exclamation mark appreciator!!!

With the jazz dudes its almost impossible to choose 'best' as they have so many masterpieces all over their discographies.

voted for shorter over curtis

Not an easy choice

I have an objection. Brass Construction sounds pretty festive. From the name and presence on this list, I was expecting jazz. I would like my refund please.

The title is a homage to John Peel's Festive Fifty

I have an objection. Brass Construction sounds pretty festive. From the name and presence on this list, I was expecting jazz. I would like my refund please.

― Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 12:17 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Also, the Brass Construction album is totally smokin'. A terrific funk/proto-disco album.

Vote please!

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

calling all ilm funk fans

Number of albums heard: 20, if the Pharoah Sanders title is actually Love In Us All

Favourite: Mwandishi over Curtis

Least-favourite: Rick James, though the singles are good

Nicest surprise: Love In Us All

Unheard, but most want to hear: Payback, Fire, Black Fire etc.

Yeah that's the sanders. It became a favourite of mine in the last few years along with thatt McCoy Tyner album.

Unheard, but most want to hear: Payback, Fire, Black Fire etc.

You are in for a treat.

Voted Brass Construction

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

I was the only one who voted for Rollins. :(

I stole the vinyl collection of my father since he doesn’t even have a turntable and I have “hot buttered soul” amongst those records and have never listened to it. I should probably get on it.

You really should.

94 votes! Thank you!

Funkadelic & Parliament did rather badly :(

In this company, just being on the ballot etc .

This is my favorite of The Lists

this one was completely impossible. i think there were ten i could have picked. voted Fela as i waited nearly 20 years to finally hear that album from first hearing about it.

xp

Thank you Jordan.

These all deserved a vote IMO.

Idris Muhammad - Power Of Soul 0
Freddie Hubbard - Straight Life 0
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Free For All 0
Archie Shepp - Fire Music 0
Andrew Hill - Black Fire 0
Big John Patton - Let Em Roll 0
Sly Stone - High On You 0
Slave - The Concept, 0
Cameo - Cardiac Arrest 0
Betty Davis - They Say I'm Different 0
Pharaoh Sanders - Love Is All 0
Bootsy Collins - Player Of The Year 0
Lonnie Liston Smith & The Cosmic Echoes - Expansions 0
Mutiny - Mutiny On The Mamaship 0
Ornette Coleman - Dancing In Your Head 0

I'd poll them but I fear ILM is sick of polls just now

It's remarkable how many got a vote though!

I put on 'Black Fire' yesterday when I was listening to Richard Davis albums after I heard about his passing (still prefer Point of Departure tbh, but both are great).

Jordan did you take part in the big jazz poll on ilm some years ago?

JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

No, I ignored all ILM ballot polls prior to the pandemic, lol

you should take a look. It was a top 250.

I mean yeah there are a lot of classic albums there, skimming it I've heard the majority of them, though obviously not all. I've given myself too many listening projects rn but maybe someday it would be good to hear what I haven't heard. :)

Listening to Open & Close now, I don't think I've ever heard it and it rules.

It does, and he has about a dozen albums just as great too.