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New album up for pre-order

https://anginedepoitrine.bandcamp.com/album/vol-ii

Insane that these guys went mega-viral and are selling out pressing after pressing of vinyl and no one is interviewing this band

here's an old one but it's in French: https://sorstu.ca/mysterieuse-entrevue-epistolaire-avec-angine-de-poitrine-lapparition-dun-nouveau-symptome/

here they are on <<Tout le monde en parle>>, a venerable Quebecois talk show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orgef29a0_4

my one piece of constructive criticism for the band is that the drummer should attach some kind of cymbal or shaker to his floppy nose. perhaps a set of castanets?

Wonder if they're Gong/Hillage fans, Mata Zyklek has that Glorious OM Riff DNA

these guys are so hot right now. both NY shows sold out so fast.

have you pitched an interview anywhere, WGW?

I really want to but I’m super busy right now. I pitched a review at least.

whiney if you interview them can you ask if they know Les Georges Leningrad?

Hype-allergic though I usually am, I dig this pair a lot and have been preaching the good news about them to all of my friends.

There's something about their melding of the appealing and unappealing that is just very refreshing to me right now. And I like how their virtuosity is tempered by a kind of post punk minimalism. The costume and fake language gimmick is the sort of thing that would usually irritate me, but here I find it very charming. Good times all around.

There is something about their whole deal that reminds me of something my friends and I would have dreamed up back in high school, except we would have had zero chops and been totally unlistenable.

so hype and gimmicks are bad ... unless you like them? is that the takeaway?

yes, that's exactly it

real, boring answer: hype and gimmicks are neither good nor bad, they just tend to put me off. That's a "me" thing, not a judgment on anyone's art or means of promoting themselves

and when an artist manages to disarm me from my usual prejudices, I think it's interesting. It's like a magic trick--how'd you pull that off?

fair enough. i don't know why i chimed in. bored, i guess. my bad!

loving these guys, the two friends who both passed them on to be cited Gizzard vibes and they definitely chime with the Gizz's microtonal eras

The videos I’ve seen of them performing are a somewhat hypnotic experience. Coordination is their main trick and they’re pretty good at it. I don’t mind the gimmicks. This is one of those instances where I feel it’s ironically less distracting for them to play with masks than it would be to have them showing their faces doing awkwardly focused expressions.

One of those bands I’d pay to see live but wouldn’t buy an album.

Me and my son have been enjoying the stuff that comes up on my You Tube algorithm. he's basically spellbound with the videos.

hey, if it puts a 12 year old onto prog influenced math rock and away from Spotify/lofi beats slop, then masks off to them.

just seen the electric Ballroom gig is sold out + 14+ age restriction so we'll have to stick to the online videos only.

I don't mind the gimmick, kind of nice to have a band with a clear visual design language that doesn't feel cynically grafted on.

the painted bare feet are especially chefs kiss.

Watching the KEXP session every night before going to bed. Spellbound is indeed the right word.

Was at a gig tonight and the opening act's drummer (they were a mathy 2-piece) recommended this lot, interesting, will have to investigate

Lol 2 veterans of the yahoogroup where I first encountered whiney give this band a “no” … so imago, you would probably love this band.

I think they are good (good not bad). And probably way more enjoyable to listen to without video than Clown Core (who are also incredible in their way).

One of those bands I’d pay to see live but wouldn’t buy an album.

Given how much people are asking for this on Discogs, seeing them live is likely to be far more economical.

I agree with your assessment though. I would tag along to see these guys but I don't think I need to sit and home and listen to this.

not even really a commentary on the band, i just think it's fascinating when resellers try to capitalize on a blurp of hype like this

https://i.postimg.cc/VNBZxZ3n/ap.png

Lol 2 veterans of the yahoogroup where I first encountered whiney give this band a “no” … so imago, you would probably love this band.

When I first saw this video I literally texted my group chat “This the type of shit l0u1s jagg3r is like “How can you people listen to Rosalia over this””

Of course like 5 minutes later they became my favorite band in the world, so game recognize game I guess

lol I've had my whole 'Rosalia is good' arc, although her last album undid it a bit

This? This first album is...okay. It's a bit too Palm/Horse Lords-adjacent for me, i.e. I can imagine it being absolutely incredible live, but less impressive in terms of studio composition - the songs don't really take journeys, they meditate upon cool patterns. I'd definitely be up for seeing them in person. This last weekend I went to the Bridget Riley exhibition in Margate and that was much the same - paintings I'd probably scoff at on a screen ("it's just colour bars!") suddenly become hypnotic, psychedelic, overwhelming when they're lifesize and in your face and you can't focus on one spot. Simple patterns, but so vast, so cool...this kind of music works, for me, in that visceral context, rather than on headphones

Were you on drugs? … idk I don’t find Riley that compelling, but that’s consistent with my general art preferences.

I mean I'm not usually into that sort of thing either, but something about the size and difficulty of focus...I had been drinking and had also just consumed whelks though

And speaking of arty Canadian bands — Aids Wolf recently released an EP of unreleased material. They are an excellent band imo.

sold out 2 nights at nyc's lpr immediately, obv. i am intrigued enough to add myself to the waitlist, not intrigued enough to pay out the (floppy) nose for re-sale tix

TS: flaccid nose vs. erect nose

Misread as “noise” and thought… flaccid v erect is a good dichotomy in categorizing noise artists

lots of folks on reddit are posting that their shows are selling out in less than a minute

a few cities got second shows and those also sold out

ticketmaster is such a corrupt entity

i hope people are motivated enough to pass some kind of legislature to cap prices of ticket resales

sorry, i should have said, "to write to their MP to pass some kind of legislature"

i'm still kind of angry about this

a little bit about the luthier that constructed the quarter-tone guitars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei3nrz2vcTg

And speaking of arty Canadian bands — Aids Wolf recently released an EP of unreleased material. They are an excellent band imo.

Oh yay I always hoped they'd done some recordings of the era where Chloe was only doing robot voices.

I'm seeing folks in the IG peanut gallery calling these guys "industry plants" now, which is hilarious. We truly live in an age of unfettered paranoia

Nothing ever happens organically, everything is manifested according to the hidden will of the shadowy cabal...what an exhausting worldview to have

they're being foisted upon us by "big microtone"

lol

Wow lol

I'm seeing folks in the IG peanut gallery calling these guys "industry plants" now, which is hilarious. We truly live in an age of unfettered paranoia

― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Monday, March 23, 2026 9:17 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the international Illuminati cooking up a scheme to sell 5000 vinyl records on Bandcamp

they are at least the second iteration of a phenomenon of experimental acts going viral on short form video for quirky live performances and selling out tours, the first being ryosuke kiyasu

these people act like there's no precedent for a rock act dressing up in outlandish costumes to get attention

these people act like there's no precedent for a rock act dressing up in outlandish costumes to get attention

https://i8.amplience.net/i/naras/the-beatles_MI0003995354-MN0000754032

xps it's all a plot by Big Tonality to sell more notes!

Anyway I'm bummed that I couldn't get tix to their Philly show before they sold out :(

they are at least the second iteration of a phenomenon of experimental acts going viral on short form video for quirky live performances and selling out tours, the first being ryosuke kiyasu

lol can't wait for the rick beato take on ryosuke kiyasu

In fairness too, it's microtonal but definitely doesn't feel as "challenging" as some stuff (like, Horse Lords would probably be their closest analog, but they definitely project a Frippish egghead chilliness that's makes it more off-putting initially); they have pretty strong pop instincts even working within the framework of avant rock.

god, i wish there *was* a "big microtone"

"industry plants"

Rick Beato brought this up on his channel when he posted a "reaction" video (positive, fwiw). He's like, "you can't plant something this weird! The music industry *wishes* it could make stuff like that happen!"

So does this count as a trend, microtonal indie rock? Horse Lords, King Gizzard, these goofs? Are there more nerds out there rocking 100-fret guitars or whatever?

I have one :)

no fuckin idea what to do with it though

Make weird rock, lol

takes a while to get used to the quarter frets from a playing standpoint, pretty tight spacing. standard tuning feels like it just doesn't work, found some Turkish scale theory stuff that was over my head, having a little bit of progress with a tuning King Gizzard uses

Can you play standard chords on it? Or only single note leads?

Are there more nerds out there rocking 100-fret guitars or whatever

the other day someone showed me this indonesian band which is doing extremely blatant kglw pastiche. they're decent at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T5QqVlv44

at least the one I have, you could ignore the quarter frets and play it normally in standard, but it's a little awkward

Quick, hop on this with a food truck Angine de Poutine

the guitars that kglw use aren't full 24-tet, they just have a few extra frets (i think 2 or 3 per octave) so you can play some quarter note scales but far from all

it looks like the angine de poitrine guy's custom dual-neck is 24-tet except for the highest frets, on both the guitar and bass. i presume that's because the extra frets would be very impractical for the highest notes?

the costumes are funny but i don't really get whatever excitement exists around these guys. they settle into a decent groove from time to time but that's about it really

this is what I have, I think the KG guy has played one but yes a Jazzmaster with extra frets basically

Revelation Marrakesh (Quartertone Offset) | OffsetGuitars.com https://share.google/QdViqsXksQvDb2NW0

xxpost - based on playing one, quarter frets high up on the neck would be nearly impossible to play

that looks like the same fret placement as the ones the kg guys use except they actually have the near-impossible quarter tone frets high on the neck

Looks like they have a hater:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:7pt3wil6q3t2vgokqv6z2mo4/bafkreiawgwzjmfcgbmd26ourzii67soniyyq63moni6u5etaongfw2pecq

Ah I see Josh brought that up upthread. But it is a truly bemusing image.

"please stop sending me links to music I can't easily sound smart about"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91QWp6Ygx7c

Ned, Beato actually loved it and was very complimentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8bt94-ybg

i mean they essentially have prog chops really right up his alley

the title and thumbnail is misleading but i know people who make a living on youtube and all these guys A/B test titles, descriptions, and thumbnail designs, they end up figuring out what gets clicks

This probably should be discussed in another thread, but youtube titles/thumbnails are universally terrible and really make me feel a deep despair anytime I navigate that site

its annoying and makes me secretly hate him but it seems to work, he gets tons of clicks which is fine by me because his taste tends to be very good. I knew he'd dig these guys

Yeah, definitely doesn't surprise me!

upsilon acrux are at the costume shop right now: sexy nurse? frankenstein's monster?

Ned, Beato actually loved it and was very complimentary

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

That’s his clickbait trick. Video title “spotify top 10: is the world ending?” Actual video: “cool chords, i like this”

Well I enjoy this music, would prefer it without the outfits. I like my prog drumming to have few cymbals and excellent groove à la Saunier and this does it for me. Several of my friends think this is vacuous bullshit (“Cirque De Soliel does Ruins”) but I enjoy very much

Well I enjoy this music, would prefer it without the outfits.

boy, have I got one of the six senses for you....

Microtonal Battles (who I think, like a few other bands of that era, put out some of their best work after most people had stopped noticing or caring)

Gloss Drop is such a great record, and yet I know so many people are snobbish about it (the ones after kill too)

KEXP at it again with teh squiggly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZZfkLkv-30

Ha, I love the subset if things that are equally awesome and annoying.

Feel like all these guys should be forced to wear elaborate conceptual costumes now, just like how all Brit rock bands 1972-1973 had to put on a bit of eyeliner and spandex.

Listening to these folks, I can't help but think of Circle - both gutted and glad that the latter somehow never (yet) went viral and exploded in popularity in the same way.

tell that to the heaving crowd at the Pharaoh Overlord gig I was at the other week!

Oh, not to say Circle et al aren't popular, but AG seem to be suddenly 'massive' (eg decent sized gig sold out in seconds here, everyone talking about them).

It's not an especially deep comparison from me anyway and I'm sure there are plenty of other better touchstones, but the weird yet catchy nature of the music and the costumes and slight theatricality of it do make me think of Finland's finest ("best band in the world" - me, circa 2012).

That's great to hear re Pharaoh Overlord - was that London?

AG = AdP, sorry, messed up my own abbreviation

It was London. Great show, the sequel to 6 is sounding awesome

I was at the Club Soda show on good Friday, and it was a madhouse. Whiney's p4k review is dead-on, it's some of the most danceable mathy rock I've ever heard, it translates extremely well to a packed room. People seem genuinely hungry for indie rock that remembers to rock, and the overall vibe was incredibly joyous.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWuLh6jGh6d/?igsh=eDN3eGpqYnBteW11

IMO Big Ears should book the Finnish Circle as well as members of Chick Corea's Circle at the same festival: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_(American_band)

a group these guys made me think of not mention in chris' review is goat (jp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PMiiLN-Xno

Circle Squared

xpost to crüt, the naming possibilities for the 'super group' would be worth it alone.

think I just heard one of their songs during an MLB bumper before an ad break, crazy

Well just came across these guys (without knowing how viral they've become) and 60 seconds into the opening track of Fabienk and I'm looking at trying to see these guys live... NOPE. Freakin' everything's sold out already and they come here in August?! Whoa

But seriously these guys are insane and just like exactly what I was looking for in my musical diet right now. Their aesthetics and Kaufmanesque sense of humor certainly adds to the mystique! Curious how they perform live - as simply a duo? That guitar/bass player must be insane to see

Well just came across these guys (without knowing how viral they've become) and 60 seconds into the opening track of Fabienk and I'm looking at trying to see these guys live... NOPE

lol same (except I knew they were viral), uk dates in october sold out.

king gizzard has these guys at their colorado festival in august.

the sales history of their two albums on Discogs is absurd, multiple people paying $200-350 for them every day, like guys you know they're going to get repressed sooner rather than later right???

frogbs not only otm, but really soon! just saw a post from End of An Ear that they've got pre-orders live to represses of both album.

So have Norman Records

Resident too
https://www.resident-music.com/collection/coming-soon?

hah yeah no shit, I mean I get wanting to have originals but I'm guessing these represses will be basically identical, it's not like these are OG Yedza Urfa records from 50 years ago or anything

is one of these guys Anklepants?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb4bCgWkZRc

Personally I'm just glad to see they'll be getting CDs too.

I have never seen that Anklepants video before and now I am obsessed.

Dunno why one would want to hear the music without the costumes. Hatfield & the North already exist. I for one put on my glamrock Mr Noseybonk outfit every time I listen to these guys

I heard these on the radio a couple of days and shazammed it, so guess I'm on team AdP now

hell yeah thanks for the pre-order links everyone

Venue was upgraded here, but tickets again disappeared in a flash (faster than I could secure them).

Also, never encountered Anklepants before, wow.

Anklepants killed a guy in Cologne with his vocorder/knife thingee. He doesn't like to talk about it.

So I must have watched a lot of videos of these guys, the instagram algorithm just fed me a post from someone I don’t follow that revealed who they are. Apparently they have three other (supposedly very good) albums out under their previous name. But I understand they don’t want to ruin the privacy so I kind of wish I hadn’t seen the post.

They are very good and Bandcamp has them without the credits that they used to have.

Love this: kids adding zip ties to their guitar necks to do Angine de Poitrine covers.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTk97HEaH/

Gonna see them at Newport Jazz this summer!

They're in the Riot Fest lineup this fall, which seems like a good context for people to discover them.

It's funny to see Sex Pistols-minus-Lydon right above Public Image Ltd.

Angine de Poitrine and Insane Clown Posse have a lot in common if you think about it.

they’re massively popular with normies in quebec, anecdotally. playing a free outdoor show at the montreal jazz fest, i feel like there’s going to be thousands of people in attendance

after selli g out the 450-capacity Atlantis in DC six months before the show in September, they added a show at the Lincoln Theater, about three times the Atlantis’ capacity, and sold out in minutes.

They just played the Montréal jazz festival tonight. The footage is jaw-dropping.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaHPvnzMQ4S/?igsh=ZGx0eWU4YWpoNzhn

2 AdP clips:
https://www.instagram.com/festivaljazzmtl/reel/DaHTifDMrJb/
https://www.instagram.com/festivaljazzmtl/reel/DaHRXdXMIp6/

I was at the jazz festival yesterday and it was the most people I've ever seen there. So many people with black and white polka dot shirts or dresses.

I was with my kids so had to leave before AdP started playing though. Looks like they put on a good show.

i was there, too (saw immanuel wilkins instead of angine though). crazy amount of people. they stopped letting people into the area somewhere around 9pm. i went out to buy some smokes and they’d set up a barricade, people trying to get in just crammed like sardines

Wow. I know Montrealers love their prog but this crowd still seems like some alternate reality shit

yeah, that's crazy. these folks are ... there for the band? or is this perhaps a typical crowd for the event and this is just who's playing?

i saw some clips of this on instagram and the comments were mostly along the lines of "lot of noise for a group no-one will think of in a year". And maybe that's true, but I find the viscerally cynical reaction to this group's success - precisely because they're entertaining in their presentation, and they're doing something striking (which nevertheless has forebears, but) - really deadening and eyeroll-inducing. Like there's an avalanche of Rick Beato-wannabes online who want to declare themselves ahead of the trend dying, because they weren't there for the moment it was exciting. It really reminds me of critics I knew around the time the White Stripes surfaced, who couldn't see the substance in what they were doing, or how a group that disrupted the norm by being visually entertaining could become a genuine cultural phenomenon.

Like, there are these freak moments when large groups of people get goofy excited over unlikely music, and these moments are BRILLIANT, and we should embrace them.

Amen

Yeah, I think these "B-b-b-ut Battles/Lightning Bolt/Jute Gyte/National Health did it first so why are all these normies jumping on this?" types of people are missing the point and also insanely boring

I think skepticism is a natural response when a lot of people suddenly attach themselves to a particular thing at the exact same time, and I think it's perfectly reasonable to be suspicious of such phenomenons. But I also wonder if these skeptics ever think about the fact that many of the "real" things they profess to love, from the Beatles to Backrooms, have likewise benefited from similarly inorganic strategies

Wow. I know Montrealers love their prog but this crowd still seems like some alternate reality shit

― meat beato manifest (sawdust lagoon), Monday, June 29, 2026 4:40 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah, that's crazy. these folks are ... there for the band? or is this perhaps a typical crowd for the event and this is just who's playing?

― alpine static, Monday, June 29, 2026 4:54 AM (four hours ago)

Obviously I don't know who was there or their internal reasons for coming (and I didn't go, rightly guessing it would be insanely crowded), but speculating and it's kind of a perfect storm situation: extremely successful local band that appeals to both franco- and anglophones, emerging elements of "bands that are their own subculture" alongside a kind of quirky fun mass phenomenon thing, free show on a Saturday night, super nice weather, peak tourist season, Montreal is a young person / university student town in a lot of ways, and AdP do have a surprisingly wide appeal even in my limited experience of playing it for people who literally don't like/listen to anything else remotely like this

oh, yes and no to the event aspect. I have seen some huge crowds for the big free Saturday show at Jazz Fest, but apparently this was the biggest since Stevie Wonder in 2009

I guess maybe the costumes started as a gimmick but it seems they have evolved into a core aspect of their art. The presentation seems equally indebted to theater and music, in the way they integrate lights into the costumes and make them part of the show. Also we shouldn't underestimate the visual ingenuity of the costumes. No shade to Buckethead, who has been plowing this furrow of silly costume plus technical virtuosity for decades, but this goes way beyond just putting a KFC bucket on your head, wearing a mask, and calling it a day. Musically they are in that lineage of funky drummer + looped-instrument duos. Everyone probably has their personal favorite, though I am partial to Spaceheads, who are probably now wishing they had made the costumes from this video a permanent part of their stage show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOlA9iFRT48

It’s a free concert and Canada won in the world cup against South Africa so they passed to the next phase. Maybe people were already on the streets and wanted to celebrate? I don’t know how popular soccer is over there but Mexico streets have been insanely crowded after each win.

Here’s per example a clip of Mana’s free concert in guadalajara as part of the world cup celebrations:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZt5t61Ou-S/

I think the main indicator that the World Cup is happening that I've seen in Montreal are Moroccan flags lol. not that I'm very attuned to soccer but I don't think that was a big factor

> One of those bands I’d pay to see live but wouldn’t buy an album.

There is something about disorienting presentation that really helps along these mostly instrumental bands - Glass Beams, Khruangbin, even the mid-century clothes of La Lom. I'm not much into Thee Oh Sees proggier turn, but I'll still watch a video of them spaz it up - part of the entertainment is seeing how it's made. Math rock can end up mixing so many pigments it turns into a gray mush. Adding theatricality gives the brain something to focus on to be able to take in the info, like doodling on a notepad to listen to a dense lecture.

We were in town hoping to go to the show. It was a gorgeous day and there were people dressed in polka dot suits roaming the streets hours earlier. We had dinner on Rue St-Denis before the concert and there was non-stop bike traffic whizzing by downhill. I expected a lot of people, but by the time we got over the to festival, it was ~crazy~ crowded with people of all ages. We weren't going to be able to see anything and it was only getting more and more crowded so we unfortunately bailed. At the airport, we overheard a family say they got stuck behind the stage.

xxxpost to be clear, i wasn't expressing cynicism or annoyance that normies are into them, more marveling at Montreal-ites for showing up in those numbers for live music like this.

just in case y'all were reacting to my question!

Welcome to my current hyperfixation.

The people in the front got there about 7-10 hours before it started. They got to watch one or possibly two mostly costumeless soundchecks--they were wearing the dark over-the-face things that they wore to set up in a few shows during part of it, and adding costumes without makeup for another part of it. The fans weren't supposed to get pictures and videos of this, but they did, and what I saw was possibly even better than the footage of the show--part of it seemed to be something that might be new, with some exceptional Klek drumming. (Incidentally, the anonymity thing seems to have moved from "I have no idea who they are" to "I know, and I know enough about what they look like to be able to pick them out in crowds, but I'm still going to pretend that I don't because I like them enough to play along with this.")

i saw some clips of this on instagram and the comments were mostly along the lines of "lot of noise for a group no-one will think of in a year".

these ppl like to use the word "relevant" a lot & they have no actual ideas about music. utter losers

Like, there are these freak moments when large groups of people get goofy excited over unlikely music, and these moments are BRILLIANT, and we should embrace them.

otmfm

these ppl like to use the word "relevant" a lot & they have no actual ideas about music. utter losers

they also view everything through the lens of overrated/underrated

Not to be all "uh huh huh huh" moustache twizzle but unlike the other bands being mentioned, AdP is a live looping band and we've learned long ago that live looping is catnip for normies. Maintain a transparent build process, incorporate a transcendent harmonic/rhythmic epiphany, lather rinse repeat

nah live looping kicks ass

AdP kicks ass

maybe I'm a closet normie...how embarassing

I usually think of the existence of irrational haters trying to convince you of their rationality as a green flag that something real is happening

Not to be all "uh huh huh huh" moustache twizzle but unlike the other bands being mentioned, AdP is a live looping band and we've learned long ago that live looping is catnip for normies. Maintain a transparent build process, incorporate a transcendent harmonic/rhythmic epiphany, lather rinse repeat

― yet I admit I'm still susceptible to ILX's allure (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 29 June 2026 17:23 (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

looool

(the joke here is that fgti does this, or at least did when i saw them, and it was still great)

Comparing AdP to, like, Reggie Watts is savage

yeah, that's crazy. these folks are ... there for the band? or is this perhaps a typical crowd for the event and this is just who's playing?

― alpine static, Monday, June 29, 2026 4:54 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

no not a typical crowd, people were absolutely there for the band. impossible to understate how big they are with quebecois normies

Obviously I don't know who was there or their internal reasons for coming (and I didn't go, rightly guessing it would be insanely crowded), but speculating and it's kind of a perfect storm situation: extremely successful local band that appeals to both franco- and anglophones, emerging elements of "bands that are their own subculture" alongside a kind of quirky fun mass phenomenon thing, free show on a Saturday night, super nice weather, peak tourist season, Montreal is a young person / university student town in a lot of ways, and AdP do have a surprisingly wide appeal even in my limited experience of playing it for people who literally don't like/listen to anything else remotely like this

― rob, Monday, June 29, 2026 9:30 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

another relevant factor is that they are a quebecois band who are making it big and the young generation are as of very recently super strongly embracing their culture to an extent previous generations didn't https://www.cbc.ca/arts/commotion/is-being-a-quebec-sovereignist-cool-9.7247017

A big part of the appeal I wonder is that they’re not from Montreal

xp yeah I def wondered how much that's a factor. AdP are "unapologetically / uncompromisingly francophone" but crucially they're instrumental so that doesn't turn off any anglos.

I have thoughts about the new wave of separatism but I would feel bad ruining this thread lol

oddly, while we were in quebec city, there was a very small group of sad looking dudes outside the US consulate with "Make French America Great Again" who wanted to become the 51st state. They looked like they needed socialized medicine tbh and were unlikely to attend an Angine de Poitrine concert.

with "Make French America Great Again" ~flags~

@ zachrys I was being serious about the broad appeal of live looping and I am serious when I say that AdP’s deployment of said technique is largely why they both appeal to the norms and also kick ass

lol i was gonna say..

I usually think of the existence of irrational haters trying to convince you of their rationality as a green flag that something real is happening

― ok (D-40), Monday, June 29, 2026 1:31 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I want to commemorate this moment when D-40 & I are on exactly the same page

these ppl like to use the word "relevant" a lot & they have no actual ideas about music. utter losers

they also view everything through the lens of overrated/underrated

absolutely. "relevancy" is a mirage. the degree to which others rate something is unimportant and boring to discuss. what matters is what the artist, their noise, their presentation, their performance, their intellectual quotient, their concept, their universe, makes you feel. anything else is dull stats for the dead-inside to sift over.

xps fgti I wasn't sure how much you were snarking and got a little defensive, it's all good

They’re booked to play our Winnipeg Folkfest next Friday night (80,000 attendance typically over the full weekend). The Friday night sold out 2 weeks ahead of time and they’re not even going to be on the mainstage

I will say that most loop-based live shows bore me to tears and fgti was very much an exception in this regard

Just friggin wait til I get out of this hospital bed, I built a post-loop-sound-design-focused New Rig over the winter and I'm fuckin pissed to have to set back any live demos as a result of garbage. wrt AdP they really get the concept that a good loop performance is like taking the audience by the hand to show them something unexpected and cool and I def appreciate that about them. I like too that it's 24tet but essentially tonal-- take that, Jute Gyte!

BTW, those Quebec MAGA mentioned earlier are currently posting lots and lots of Satanic Panic stuff about AdP all over FB and Instagram. It was already there to an extent--almost all of the haters on the public FB fan groups have conspiracy stuff on their profiles, and it's been that way for about a month--but it's become a minor flood since Montreal.

the devil's microtones

There’s a bunch of narc of small d’s with this band among people I know who do/have done similar music.

LOL I had to re-read "narc of small d's" a few times before I parsed it, thought I was having a stroke for a min.

The conspiracy/Illuminati/Satanist angle that some of the haters are coming with is both hilarious and kind of depressing to me. The paranoia trip of the grossly unimaginative

the narcissism of small intervals

The most imaginative thing I've seen is that the band's music is designed to activate 5G and 6G implanted in people's bodies by the COVID shot.

ok, that's actually pretty good

My timeline for this is one or two protest signs outside the facility at the next show, two weeks until this shit starts to show up in English, more small protests at almost every show after that, some dipshit politician bringing it up in a month, and at least one assassination attempt before Volume 3 is released.

ok that's a bit bleak

Heres me thinking it'd be limited to a few 'virtuosos' saying theyd been doing this for years...

that's sweet there is a satanic panic about AdP, true sign of cultural relevance, bite the head off the microtonal bat

no one had conspiracy theories about Geese!

they did actually

oh yeah, but only boring “industry plant” conspiracy theories, not entertaining conspiracies like “their music will give you Morgellons”.

uh, did you already forget the CIA PsyOp conspiracy?

oh,that’s not a conspiracy theory ;)

unlike the other bands being mentioned, AdP is a live looping band and we've learned long ago that live looping is catnip for normies

Spaceheads are a live looping band, that's why I mentioned them. I'm not sure live looping is catnip for normies, but for obvious reasons, it does tend to produce songforms which are rather static harmonically, which is probably easier to digest for most listeners.

I really hate the word "normies" so condescending and lazy

I use it because it's preferable to "sheeple"

If you're pushing the envelope in terms of tonality or sonics then it probably helps to keep the rhythmic and harmonic structure fairly static, which live looping naturally lends itself to. So most people (notice I didn't say normies) probably like AdP for the same reason "Kind of Blue" is the most popular jazz album.

they sound a bit like Primus sometimes

I use the term "normie" without condescension

I'd even state that I use the term with love

I get the revulsion. There is sometimes a need for a word for people who aren't [x] obsessives when you're talking about [x] though ("casuals"? not sure if that's better), as in I think it's likely we're all normies in some domain or another

xp pls bring your rig to merrie (normie?) englande when you're all fixed up obv!

I thought they were called normans

I liked this essay

https://touchofallright.substack.com/p/angine-de-poitrine-could-only-hail

by an erstwhile ilxor iirc

Ohhh good shout out to fet.nat

excellent essay, if for no other reason that no one has ever told me about FIMAV until now—pretty mad I missed this year's edition

Yeah, FIMAV is great, though I haven't been in ages. Here's an old thread from the archives about it:

FIMAV 2005 Lineup announced

the live looping is i think what doesn't really work for me, it forces them into a more rigid structure that i don't think really suits this style of music well, or at least isn't what i'd really want from it

BTW, that audio interview that the writer claimed to not be able to find in that essay a few posts up is on YT, and has been there for months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYQq153rLEg