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"within you without you" gets my vote.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 9 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I really, really hate "The Long and Winding Road."

sophie, Saturday, 9 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"What Goes On" is a contender, and I don't care what Ned or Ally say.

Josh, Saturday, 9 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"I Want You (She's So Heavy)" or "Because"...Most Lennon stuff on _Abbey Road_ come to think of it. I actually enjoy "Within You Without You".

Kathleen, Saturday, 9 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Probably "Dig a Pony", a wretched song, prefiguring all the worst self-pitying aspects of 70s rock. At the other end of the scale, some of the filler on their early albums is sub-standard Merseybeat (think of what that would sound like ...)

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 10 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"Hey Jude" is the worst. Dear Lord that record makes me angry.

But really, though, the Beatles? Can't we let them rest?

Tom, Sunday, 10 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

'Run For Your Life'? (Lennon's charming threat to kill his girlfriend if she is unfaithful. Is he joking? "Let this be a sermon / I mean everything I said / Baby, I'm determined / And I'd rather see you dead")

Or maybe 'Rocky Raccoon'.

'The Long and Winding Road'. *Sigh*. I'll never understand why people are scornful of this song. For some reason it gets lumped together with the mawkish tat of 'Let it Be' as an example of McCartney's unfettered sentimentality. How anyone can fail to be affected by the romance of the song's imagery, I'll never know. Bloody cynics. It's a simple trick I suppose, but its evocation of time passed and broken dreams and a journey that you didn't even realise you had taken until it was over and it's the end of the Beatles and the end of the 60s and I feel like one day I'll be that person ending up at her door again and Jesus that song spooks me.

I'm bored of being bored with the Beatles.

Nick Dastoor, Monday, 11 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

The Too Long And Winding Song, obviously. Not only has it got McCartney at his mawkish worst, but then Phil Spector - PROVEN FACT could not produce a rock band - comes and even further mashes it into the stratosphere. And you hear it all the time, unlike say Dig A Pony, which makes it 10 times worse.

Ally, Monday, 11 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"Hey Jude" is one of those communal epics which assumes some kind of unity and sameness connecting us all, a suspect notion even then, and risible now. It is funny in a cheap ironic way, the misguided sense of "everyone's the same; we are all in it together", but even Thunderclap Newman aren't so embarrassing now.

I also hate "I Want You (She's So Heavy)", which is pure stodge.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 11 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"Within You Without You" is the best song on _Sgt. Pepper's..._.

My own personal pick would probably end up being "Hello Goodbye". Painfully banal, inappropriately bouncy, and all-around Hell-On- Earth. I'd be a happy man if I never ever heard it again.

"The Long And Winding Road" is annoyingly produced, yes, but underneath that is a fantastic song. Any a capella arrangement of it that is sung well will prove this. Same with "Yesterday".

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 12 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

What I find strange is that "The Long And Winding Road" is Chuck D's favorite Beatles song. Go ahead, ask him.

The worst? "I Want You" is pretty terrible, I think.

Mark Richardson, Tuesday, 12 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Oh go on, can I vote for Imagine? Please?

All right then, You Like Me Too Much is pretty awful, as are most of the original songs on Help! I might have voted for Help itself, but having recently heard Pete Wylie doing a slowed down stripped down version of it, I've seen the light. But Help! - I mean, if you'd bought Rubber Soul and got really excited, wouldn't that album have been a let down? You'd have assumed they were done for.

Michael Flack, Tuesday, 12 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Nick absolutely hits the nail on the head re. The Long & Winding Road, & the complex emotions it evokes so effortlessly. One of the best songs ever written by anyone, surely?

Worst? The Beatles didn't ever write anything that could be described as bad, so I'll plump for 'Piggies', which is.... actually, it is bad.

Harvey

harvey williams, Tuesday, 12 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

She Loves You - Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah.

With lyrics like that, you know it must be bad.

Pete, Wednesday, 13 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Maxwell's Silver Hammer. No contest.

David Sim, Wednesday, 13 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Thrilled that Chuck D, Harvey Williams and I are united on the merits of 'The Long and Winding Road'. What a fantastic alliance.

Horrible overdubs, yes. Try to hear the version in the 'Let it Be' film.

There are, of course, many dreadful Beatles songs. 'Piggies' is indeed a nasty little piece of work. Harrison also annoys me on 'Taxman' - great tune, lousy sentiments. Never understood how people put up with him whining about his fiscal affairs. I mean get a fucking grip, man.

I always think 'Help!' is underrated, Michael. But then it was the only early Beatles album I had when I was growing up, so maybe I'm biased. And you seem to be under the impression that it came out after Rubber Soul, which it didn't. I think it's a lot better than the preceding 'Beatles for Sale', anyway, which is largely an unhappy mix of dodgy rock and roll covers and Lennon's attempts to work Dylan through his system. 'Help!' is the P!O!P! choice, you might say. But yes, 'A Hard Day's Night' beats them both.

Other dire Beatles songs:

'Love me do' (chugga-chugga boo); 'Rocky Raccoon' (obviously); 'Ob-la-di-ob-la-da' (which, like 'Let it Be' even gets slagged off on its own album); 'Why don't we do it in the road?' (McCartney tries to get low down and dirty and just succeeds in making me feel sick); 'Dig it' (dreary dreary dreary), 'It's Only Love' (nice intro but made preposterous by the line "Just the sight of you makes nighttime bright... very bright"; 'It's All Too Much' (I can't even remember how this dirge goes. The House of Love covered it); 'All Together Now' (more bollocks from 'Yellow Submarine'); 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds' (it's tuneless, it's weedily-produced, it annoys me with its very first line and I couldn't care less whether it's about drugs, Julian's scrawlings or the wider cosmos. It's shit.)

N. x

Nick Dastoor, Wednesday, 13 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Most George Harrisongs. Piggies is a very strong contender and it's nice to see that it's received a couple of votes. But nearly all of his work, from Don't Bother Me, to Love You Too, to Taxman, to Long, Long, Long, and even Something, has been shot through with what I imagine he imagined as depth, but was rather just mere griping. His weedy voice didn't help but it's mainly the dirge of the music, all those descending chords (is that right? - I'm no musicologist) and the general aura of fatigue. His best song was Here Comes The Sun and even that wasn't much cop - nice version by Nina Simone though.

As for Lennon and McCartney's songs, I've spent so much of my life listening to them that I can just about find something worthwhile in them all. I would have gone for The Long and Winding Road, but the Anthology version (and Kevin Rowland's version) changed my mind about that. If pushed then, I'd have to go for Get Back - a pivotal song in that it marked the dramatic decline of McCartney's vocal range (no, really, it did) and suggests that had The Beatles carried on for much longer they'd have ended up as embarrassing lumpen 'rockers' (as evidenced by their pitiful solo careers).

Paul Saxton, Wednesday, 13 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

wazzamatta with Maxwell's Silver Hammer, HMMMMM???? That's the BEST Beatles song.

Well, no, it's not, but it's nowhere near, say, Octopus's Garden in uselessness.

Ally, Wednesday, 13 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"It's Only Love" is a shameless throwaway; as assidiously noted by Macdonald, just listen to Lennon's almost contemptuous, grinning indifference as he sings it, aware of the mediocrity of what he's just perpetrated.

As for the Phantom Beatles sound of the early 70s, it would have been either stodgy Rockism cf Get Back / I Want You / Don't Let Me Down, or the bland overcooked AOR sound of ELO. Probably both at once, in fact. Their mythological status is largely due to their splitting just as they were about to be overtaken, IMHO, indeed they probably were already falling off in 1969 (as David Stubbs accurately wrote recently in Uncut). Had the Beatles continued until, say, 1976, it might actually have been a good thing for us today, since they'd have made many more downright irrelevant, mediocre and unnecessary records than they did, therefore they'd be less of a holy grail and more widely denigrated, and they wouldn't be forced down your throat all the time as The Band Who Never Got Shit. Had the Beatles continued into the early 70s and shown their later true mediocre colours *as a group*, we could well have been spared the worst aspects of the mid- 90s.

The Widespread World of Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 13 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I always hated "Yer Blues". This was when excess reallly started in rock - check out the bloated "Supergroup" version on the Rock n' Roll Circus film. I agree with Robin - a lot of under 25s out there probably at this stage think there was nothing else of worth in the sixties bar The Fabs. If the Stones had disintegrated in '72 (or if Jagger had copped it then or something!) they'd be far more in the current public consciousness. Most idiots out there are aware of Help or Revolver but what about Let It Bleed!

Ian MacDonald rightly states in "Revolution In The Head" that during the 80s The Beatles were a museum piece. Certainly in post punk and synth Britain (1979 - 1982) the Beatles had almost been forgotten right across the various cultures and by 1984/5, interest in them was probably at an all time low. I reckon it all started to pick up again in June '87 when there was a piece on the 9 o clock news about McCartney celebrating "It was 20 years ago today.... After that there was the 1988/89 movement of indie bands recreating a more real 60's type sound again. One of the hard aspects about Lennon's death was that he never experienced the real acclaim that comes with 20-25 years hindsight --- during the 70s there were real proper books or in depth magazine articles (like Stubbs' Let It Be piece) giving the historical perspective on the Beatles --- he never saw in a proper context what The Beatles meant in the overall scheme of things.

David Gunnip, Thursday, 14 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I remember OMD being interviewing on "Nationwide" sometime in 1980 (possibly before "Enola Gay", probably by that nice Bob Wellings - I think Michael Barrett had left by then), and the inevitable you're- from-Merseyside-what-about-them-MopTops-then question came up. To my surprise, they mumbled something about "not really liking The Beatles", and my elder brother scoffed "Ha! It's so trendy thesedays to 'not like' The Beatles". This would've been pre-comeback/Chapman Lennon and circa "Coming Up"/"Wonderful ChristmasCrime" Macca.

I do recall "Love Me Do" being given a 20th-anniversary re-release with a fair amount of hoo-har in late '82 and barely charting. For some reason, I associate the mid-80s CD re-issue programme as kick- starting the Beatles' second coming.

Worst song? I don't really know the LPs, but "Get Back" is a crap single. I'd like to meekly add my support to the Resistance who are sticking up for "Long and Winding Road" in the face of hooting derision and name-calling.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 14 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Yes, Love Me Do was re-released in 82, on the 20th anniversary of the original release (as were the subsequent singles) but it actually charted at No.4 - 13 places higher than it did in 62.

As for the likelihood of The Beatles turning into stodgy rocker/ELO types - well, it actually happened with Free As A Bird and Real Love, which had Jeff Lynne's nauseating production sound all over it. McCartney's fault that because, feeling guilty over the way he'd treated Harrison during the Beatle years, he allowed him to bring his mate in, instead of George Martin. McCartney should have stood firm and treated Harrison like the junior, inferior talent he really is.

Paul Saxton, Thursday, 14 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Ah right - I was well off the mark with "Love Me Do" then. It was the Alan Rankine remix of "Back In The USSR" on the flip that helped it sell, y'know...

Harrison's an unpleasant sod, isn't he? I mean, no one likes being stabbed at Christmas, but all that drivel about his assailant 'basically getting off on a technicality', when he was clearly raving...

Er, I don't seem to be able to find any supporting evidence for that quote on the Web...

Michael Jones, Thursday, 14 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Notable how the 1987 CD reissues of all the Beatles albums seemed to be aimed at the 60s generation, while there was much more targeting at younger people with the mid-90s' Anthology albums. I think we know who brought that about :).

Lutra Lutra, Friday, 15 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

two weeks pass...
'Pigies' is actually on of my favorites. I just have to make the piggy noises every single time. 'Octopus Garden' is IMHO by far the worst Beatles song.

Omar Munoz, Thursday, 4 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...
...what the fuck, only 1 person's even mentioned "O-Bla-Di O-Bla-Da"?

Duane Zarakov, Thursday, 25 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...
I'll admit it, I'm a Beatles fanboy. I think most (not all, most) of their songs have something to recommend them, even the lesser ones. But Harrison's "Love You To" is totally unforgivable, utter tripe. Even you "Within You" haters have to admit it's better than "Love You To."

Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Harrison's entire ethos is still an encapsulation of all the worst aspects of the late 60s / early 70s. If this was the hardcore of the hippy movement, then give me the much-mocked "passive hippies" (the folk-rock thing, essentially), any day.

"Long, Long, Long" still very much to treasure of course, as is "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" in its way, despite its AOR / stadium rock-prefiguring song structure.

The Collective Freemasons of Fotheringhay, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The ONLY reason I didn't put in a vote for "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da" was because I'd already gone for "Hello Goodbye". It's very true, though, that "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" might have the most unforgivable chorus ever recorded.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thank God, someone who doesn't like Lucy in the Sky. Ugh. Staying away from George songs, I'd say that the breathing noises and whiny intro to "Girl" send me into convulsions, and the last goddamn song on Abbey Road, the 50-second one.

Jake Becker, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, "Her Majesty", what an enduringly execrable knockoff. Certainly one of the songs that defines the necessity of their split.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 2 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's like saying that Raekwon's "Intro (skit)" stinks, therefore he should retire.

Patrick, Friday, 2 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He should.

Who is he?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

in responce to "who is he"...a classic rock superstar who scored such hits as "strawberry alarm clock".

Kevin Enas, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nick D's comment 'I'm bored with being bored of the Beatles' typified his thoughtfulness. He and one or two others are right about 'The Long And Winding Road' too.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Oh, how I long for I day-glo lime green depth charge to sink the "Yellow Submarine", Amen.

Lord Custos II, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

although 'if...you become naked...' almost saves it, revolution no. 9 sux

Ron, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i should add, by the way, tht "she's so heavy" is awesome and undeserving of slagging- it's probably my favorite beatles-on-drugs song...i find it hard to hate the early subpar singles since in the bad ones, i kinda like the way they take such joy in finding words that rhyme with "do"... so the worst one has to be the climax of the abbey road medley with the faux-emotion of golden slumbers/givemeyourmoney and then the vocoder-like harmonies and then the mindbendingly dull drumsolo... eek.

dave k, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...
"Here Comes the Sun"

We've got a Beatles station in town, which I listen to constantly. The only time I ever switch the station is when this drivel comes on.

Alicia, Sunday, 30 March 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Octopus' Garden"

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok, it's gone too far when there's a whole Beatles radio station.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

james bloutn otm

yellow submarine's no picnic either

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't Pass Me By. Ugh.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

no way - that 'pum-pum PUM-PUM' drums after the twinkly 'caw, let's have a tune' pianer. Beatles drunkest song. There are worse songs on the White Album than that (eg. "Bungalow Bill")

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

oh GAWD, bungalow bill is atrocious. i love the white alb to death but man there are some atrocities on that thing.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

the ONLY part of Bungalow Bill I like is when Yoko pops up just cause I know it's making making Paul mad


Rocky Racoon sounds okay sped up

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, i luv "octopus's garden." it's my second favorite song on abbey road, after "here comes the sun"

why do you hate fun, mr. blount?

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the pixies cover of "wild honey pie" better than the original

*ducks*

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

(i will admit i have an extra-curricular interest since it was playing the first time i had sex with someone)

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey! Don't Pass Me By is a great song!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

tad - "OG" is like the two sides of Ringo Starr that never shoulda been indulged - Ringo the Children's TV host, and Ringo the Buck Owens jockrider. For what it's worth I almost put "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" but then I remember Steve Martin.

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course it's not the worst, but I have to say I really hate Yesterday.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Ringo sung songs with "don't" in the title - classic.

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

he shoulda been a Ramone!

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

the beatles had some of the tweest song titles ever

even tweer than the ramones!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

they used the words "it" and "you" ALOT

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Maxwell's Silver Hammer is a good song too. You guys are hating on the funny songs.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

too damn quizzical

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't understand the hate for "maxwell's silver hammer," either. it's dumb, but it's not bad. it even has a mellotron!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I like "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)" (or at least the lounge part, not so much the 'John talks like granny agin' part)! It's a funny song!

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"'s like those geeks in high school who were always quoting Monty Python

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

People are hating on the childrens' songs too. Well at least one of them.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

wait, strike everything I've said, it's "Fool on the Hill"

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mr. Moonlight" is abysmal.

Evan (Evan), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:54 (twenty-two years ago)

you are insane

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Fool on the Hill is GRATE, have you ever seen The Magical Mystery Tour? That's a fantastic movie. You'd totally appreciate every song on Magical Mystery Tour if you saw the movie, I mean it's like the visual equivalent of "Hey! We have some coke! And we have some acid! Let's do all of it!"

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

my votes for the worst:

within you, without you
being for the benefit of mr. kite (what PF would've sounded like had Syd taken some real weak acid that day)
she's so heavy
the "golden slumbers" suite-thing on abbey road (pointless)

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I love "Fool On the Hill" as well as pretty much all of the white album. "Yellow Submarine" might be worse than my earlier choice.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Why does everybody hate the Beatles? Or at least if they don't hate them, why do they hate talking about them?

I mean, "But really, though, the Beatles? Can't we let them rest?" WHY???

Evan (Evan), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)

mr. kite's fantastic! lennon's voice is so blase, even though he's singing about a circus

WHY DOES EVERYBODY HATE THE BEATLES?

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mr. Kite" does the impossible. It out-Syd's Barrett-era Floyd, even WITHOUT any guitar noise

Evan (Evan), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the problem with the Beatles is that they are so overrated that you feel like you HAVE to hate them to make up for it.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i liked how i put "mr. kite" as my beatles choice on that "arbitrary ilm roadmap" thread and then marcello went pissing about it as being their "low point" or whatever on some beatles thread

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

weren't the Beatles in the next studio over from Pink Floyd, when both were respectively recording sgt. pepper and piper at the gates of dawn? "mr. kite" isn't that bad, i guess, but it does sound too much like john was trying too hard to rip off syd's schtick (which he couldn't, cause syd was genuinely nuts on acid).

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Going out of your way to talk about how godly or how shitty the Beatles are -- unprovoked -- always seems kinda pointless to me.

anyway... as for the thread.

"Run For Your Life" is the clear winner here, as mentioned above for the same above reasons... besides being a shit tune. For this song alone, "Rubber Soul" would have been my favorite Beatles album if it wasn't for this song.

The close runner up would be "You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)".. goofy in all bad angles. Monty Python should cringe if this song indeed was influenced by them.

Others that annoy:
"The Ballad of John and Yoko"
"I Me Mine"
"One After 909"
all of their covers on the first four albums

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I like almost every song mentioned on this thread so far. You people are lame for picking on the obvious bad songs: it's not like anyone pretends Mr Moonlight or Her Majesty is great anyway. (I certainly prefer em to the woefully dire and icky Let It Be.)

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:13 (twenty-two years ago)

ALL of the covers on the first four?

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

hey, i said i hated the "golden slumbers" suite, which some people seem to cream over!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"Run For Your Life" is based on a true story so no way it's worst


the "Golden Slumbers" suite is only great if you believe it's great, but if you believe it's great it's REALLY great

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

How the HELL could I have forgotten about "The Ballad of John and Yoko"!?!?! Awful AWFUL song. Easily their worst hit. Worse than "Free As a Bird" even!!

Evan (Evan), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Is With the Beatles one of the first four? The covers on that are great. "Mr Kite" is classic.

I actually don't know why I started this thread three years ago. I wouldn't do it now.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Monty Python didn't exist yet (formed 1969 I think) when the Beatles did You Know My Name (1967).

I think most of the Beatles' covers are great, especially the girl group ones and the great Lennon "Twist and Shout"/"Money"/"Rock and Roll Music" trilogy. (Awful one: "Devil In Her Heart")

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

strike everything I've said, the answer is "Free as a Bird"

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Justyn is a Monty Python geek too, he knows dates. I WAS ONE OF THOSE QUOTING HIGH SCHOOLERS DAMNIT.

Am I the only person who likes Run For Your Life? I mean obv. the message is no good but it's certainly no different a message than like "Kim" or something. I actually really like the song.

AND I like The Ballad of John and Yoko, I think it's clever, god help me.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

ALL of the covers on the first four?

Yup. especially "Twist and Shout". Even Ferris Bueller couldn't save it.

Monty Python didn't exist yet (formed 1969 I think) when the Beatles did You Know My Name (1967).

Doh! You're right. Well, if vice versa, then dear lord did the Python improve upon it.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"ballad of john and yoko" is better than "rico suave," that much credit i'll give it.

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

madness!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)

No, The Ballad of John and Yoko is definitely not better than Madness, they were tops.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not as much the lyrics to "Run For Your Life" as them being coupled with this lame melody that sounds like some wacky montage on a beach vacation episode of the Brady Bunch. The song is like an offensive third grader sticking its tongue out at you after saying really mean things.

What generally annoys me about "The ballad of john and yoko" is that it's a stilted Beatles song that mentions the names of stilted band members of the Beatles (one of them by proxy) -- and is SERIOUS. Extreeeeemely tacky right there. And also, it's a boring lame bluesy tune. Thankfully, Ono's "Plastic Ono Band" would improve greatly upon it.

Otherwise, I really like all of the above mentioned goofy Harrison, Ringo, and Paul songs that everyone else here hates.

"ballad of john and yoko" is better than "rico suave," that much credit i'll give it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! no.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Ballad of John and Yoko is one of the most hilariously egotistical songs ever written, and it's got a cool riff. I can't hate it.

Monty Python quoting high school geeks are SO much cleverer than Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

"ballad of john & yoko"'s the "without me" of 1969

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

bootleg!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"ballad" would make a shit a cappella, though.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

(jess, you damn dirty ape!)

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

"the ballad of without yoko"

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck that. YOKO A CAPPELLAS! Bootleg mania re-explodes!

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"don't worry kyoko, mummy's only looking to get her freak on"

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"can't get you out of my mindtrain"

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"walking on thin ice ice baby"

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

(the best part is we can blame James!)

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"approximately infinite gossip folks"

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the thread for "Revolution #9" anyway...

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 31 March 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

is pete crazy? 'she loves you' is great.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 31 March 2003 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

"Love Me Do" - what a pile of elephant droppings.

Dadaismus, Monday, 31 March 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Dan was right all along. "Hello Goodbye" it is. (No-one's defended it yet, I notice.)

OleM (OleM), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"Don't Bring Me Down." Lazy crap. Gene made me hate them even more by choosing THAT song to cover!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 March 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"Get Back" is such a tossed-off lazy single - I really can't imagine how it topped the charts. "The Ballad of John and Yoko" isn't far behind.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 31 March 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

''"Love Me Do" - what a pile of elephant droppings.''

how can you say this?!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 31 March 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

In fact, the exact interval of time during which "Hello Goodbye" goes from simply banal-bad to evil has been identified. Follow me, fowks:

You say yes,
Hm, not too bad a start, that. Nice simplistic Macca stacca rhythm: tum-dum-dum-dum-dum....

I say no.
Ah, dialectics.

You say stop,
What could possibly come next, contrasting with "stop" and rhyming with "no"?

And I say go, go, go.
Right. Oh I say, that proto-ob-la-di bassline is a bit annoying, isn't it?

Oh no!
Huh-huh-huh, these lyrics suck.

You say goodbye,
Reasonable cadence seems to be coming up here.

and I say hello.
There, closure. Well, it's a bit silly , but not too...

HELLO HELLO!
WTF was that?? Curb your manic greetings, you chipper bast!

I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello.
Oh I see, it was all a "device" to bring about a variation of the end of the stanza. Still should be worked on though, that major-triad trick was damned painful. OK, onwards to next verse or whatever...

HELLO HELLO!
AAAAARGH!

etc. Even all that "Hela, heba, helloa" nonsense at the end cannot make it any worse than it already is.

OleM (OleM), Monday, 31 March 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Pandora's box has been opened. Theres no going back now...

kevin brady (groeuvre), Monday, 31 March 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

puh-leeze, "Hello Goodbye" has the crazy see-saw fiddle, no way it's worst (plus there was that Bert and Ernie sketch, so NOOOOOO WAY it's worst)

"Love Me Do"'s got that harp that people will occasionally call 'bluesy' but thankfully isn't 'bluesy', no way it's worst

"Don't Bring Me Down" heavily 'inspired' "I'll Be There For You", no way it's worst

Everybody can relate to "Revolution No. 9", everybody's been at that party, no way it's worst

"Get Back" is such a tossed off lazy single, no way it's worst

"Free As A Bird" on the other hand is Goerge Michael in 'look, I don't want to talk about me bum anymore' mode so hyper-BORING, it's worst though George's slide might save it, in which case "Fool on the Hill" over "Octopus' Garden" only cuz "OG"'s bridge sounds so manic, like Ringo's thinking 'man oh man, I can just picture it! a fucking Octopus' Garden - Lord why do you taunt me with such visions of paradise?'

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"Don't Bring Me Down." Lazy crap. Gene made me hate them even more by choosing THAT song to cover!...
"Don't Bring Me Down" heavily 'inspired' "I'll Be There For You"...

oi, ye merry gentlemen, ye gotten carried away there - waznot a biitlz tone, that (& waznot covered by Gene either)
;-)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 31 March 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

add the beatles to politics and religion as subjects to avoid.

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 31 March 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"Here Comes the Sun" seconded

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 31 March 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Revolution #9 is so far from being the worst. Even if you don't dig it as agit prop avant garde broohaha. it's just plain beautiful to listen to.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 31 March 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. Like slugs.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

My kneejerk reaction is Hello Goodbye, but there's a lot of crap post-Pepper that I can't even remember, so I'm hesitant to say.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The worst Beatles song is the one on the first disc of the first Anthology where they do blackface, the racist motherfuckers. Something like "My darlin', when you cook my breakfast in the morning." or something. "You'll Be Mine" I think it's called?

Evan (Evan), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

'yellow submarine' is just fine, u hataz!! 'hello goodbye' is good also

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the thread for "Revolution #9" anyway...

I don't think this is the worst song, but "R9" is certainly the most overrated Beatles song.

Ned.. "Don't Bring Me Down"? I know Jeff Lynne was given far too much access to the Beatles' privates and all, but you can't just go back and claim an ELO song as a Beatles song. (especially since it's the acest ELO song)

(Ahem, "Don't Let Me Down" you mean?)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

If Free as a Bird counts, then it's the worst. If not:


Yellow Submarine, followed by Yesterday. Bor-ing.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

but "R9" is certainly the most overrated Beatles song.

b-but everyone's always going on about how shit it is!

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

octopus's garden is wrong

james (james), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahem, "Don't Let Me Down" you mean?

I hate it so much I got the title wrong! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
What does everyone have against 1. George Harrison's Indian influence (have an open mind and Within You, Without You will blow you away, especially the drums) 2. Blue Jay Way (if you're in that kind of mood it's honestly amazing) 3. Paul McCartney's happy-go-lucky stuff (I mean it isn't like they don't have musical worth, it's just that a lot of people seem to think the Beatles weren't allowed to have more than two major chords in a row or explore different musical genres)

Dan AAA, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

4. Ringo's two songs (simple does not equal bad; the fact that Don't Pass Me By and Octopus's Garden don't have complicated chord sequences doesn't mean they're bad - see Imagine, Let It Be, etc - it just shows that Ringo wasn't really a songwriter at that time and actually did pretty well all things considered)

Dan AAA, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, nobody hear can actually say that ANY song from the mid-late era was worse than some of the stuff they put out in the beginning. It seems like for every gem they put out 63-65 (All My Loving, In My Life, Help, You've Got To Hide Your Love Away, I'll Follow The Sun, Tell Me Why, Nowhere Man, Norwegian Wood, Girl, etc.) they paired with one - originals and covers alike - that wouldn't have made it into the studio in the later half of the decade (P.S. I Love You, Chains, Please Mr. Postman, I'm Looking Through You, etc.). If I had to pick one to be the worst, I'd say I Wanna Be Your Man. They keep saying the same thing over and over again in a barely-melodic manner that just really agrivates me. Still, it was pretty much better than any song put out by any other artist during that time period (see smash hit: Chiffons - He's So Fine).

Dan AAA, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

If the "Anthology" is included, "You know what to do" is the runaway winner.

If not, I'd go for "Little Child". Pretty dull.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Their worst always was, and always will be, "Hey Jude". "Nowhere Man" is a close second though.

Merryweather (scarlet), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

Don't seem fair to knock the obvious album fillers/silly kidsongs, so of their singles I'd pick From Me to You as the least strong (even Love Me Do has some agreeable bounce by comparison, as does Ballad of J and Y.) can't recall if Give Peace a CHance appeared under the beatles banner or not, but it's just terrible, set the peace movement back 30 yrs in my view.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Misery" is uh, pertty miserable.

Worst single would have to be "We Can Work It Out"

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Easily "Love Me Do" in my opinion - happily, it was also the FIRST thing they ever wrote/recorded, unless you count that Tony Sheridan nonsense. Nowhere to go but up. (Also, trainspotters, the only song they recorded in 1962, I believe)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking Penny Lane. Or maybe Long and Winding Road.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Even "Love Me Do" is redeemed by that good harmonica break from John, though.

I have to go with "Good Night" from the white album as my least favorite.

James, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer." Paul sings "quizzical" like an A student excited to use the new word he found in his dictionary last night.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer" is so harmless. Plus it's on the "silly" side of the albm.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I concede that the harmonica is the best thing about "Love Me Do".

Weird thing about McCartney's music-hall ditties and me: Either I love 'em (Maxwell, When I'm 64) or hate 'em (Honey Pie, Your Mother Should Know), no middle ground. Weird.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Maxwell's Silver Hammer is said to be the song that broke up the Beatles, as the rest of the band hated the tune and they spent hours working upon it. I think it is pretty annoying myself. It is way too much like John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt for me.

earlnash, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Weird thing about McCartney's music-hall ditties and me: Either I love 'em (Maxwell, When I'm 64) or hate 'em (Honey Pie, Your Mother Should Know), no middle ground. Weird.

My favorite is the Wings-era album track "You Gave Me The Answer," although I don't listen to it much.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Don't hate on "I'm Looking Through You" - it's one of the best songs on Revolver.

Worst? "I Dig A Pony" trumps even Macca's most annoying music-hall impulses.

mike a, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Good Day Sunshine

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

"I'm Looking Through You" is on Rubber Soul.

I'd say it's a toss up between "Yellow Submarine", "Mr. Moonlight", "Little Child", "All Together Now", and "Thank You Girl."

darin (darin), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, I forgot about "Mr. Moonlight." Yeah, that one is pretty bad.

(I like "All Together Now" and "Thank You, Girl," though, even if both are lighweight).

James, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Mr. Moonlight is AWFUL. But if we're looking for songs that aren't cliched as "Bad Beatle songs," I nominate "Long and Winding Road" and "Dig a Pony". Blech.

musically (musically), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Mr. Moonlight" is almost redeemed by the immediate second take from Paul on Anthology where he just BELTS out the intro, lets it go, clears his throat, and then FUCKING BELTS it out again within ten seconds.

I nominate "Yellow Submarine" and "Nowhere Man".

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

John's vocal on "Mr. Moonlight" is great. U guyz = nuts.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

And how can one hate on the song itself? It's about the moonlight man! He sends you love from above. With his beam he makes your dream.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

This is where a Beatles discussion can get complicated. Even if I didn't like "Nowhere Man" as a song (and I do), I'd love it for the guitar solo anyway (which I'm going to go out on a limb and guess is George's work). So I guess a discussion like this can get parsed down into "worst Beatles recorded performance" versus "worst song written by the Beatles."

And sorry, even John's vocals don't do much for me on "Mr. Moonlight." I haven't heard the Anthology II version with Paul on the mike, but now I want to check it out!

James, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

"I Wanna Be Your Man" is great, I think. Great growly rhythm guitar playing by John. I was thinking about "When I Get Home," but that has a great Lennon vocal.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

>My favorite is the Wings-era album track "You Gave Me The Answer,"<

Yeah. I might like "Honey Pie" more, though, personally. And Geir was correct in saying that "Your Mother Should Know" is a pop masterpiece.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

my vote would be 'dr. robert'. awkward phrasing & completely forgettable melody. never fails to irritate me. can't stand 'the long and winding road' either, and that includes the 'naked' version.

6335, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

OTM about Your Mother Should Know. Probably one of my favorite Beatles songs.

musically (musically), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

"Dr. Robert" is pretty OK.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

haha "Mr. Moonlight" has the worst singing on any official Beatles record evah!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Classic thread. My vote is for... Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

Goodnight!

chris sallis, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

All this time has passed with no mention of "Flying"? Maybe its too slight to actually offend anyone.

hereford, Thursday, 22 December 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

For sheer annoyance, nothing can beat "Maxwell's Silver Hammer." But I'll go with "The Word." It's just so... mediocre.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 22 December 2005 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

Worst: "Fool on the Hill" (sorry, Ally), "Honey Pie"
Best: "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)," "Wild Honey Pie," "She Loves You"

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

My vote is for "Yesterday," a song I can't hear without cringing. The attangement's terrible, the melody's lame, and the lyrics are the worst on any Beatles song.

antexit (antexit), Thursday, 22 December 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

Baby You're a Rich Man is just horrible...

M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 22 December 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

How can you all hate Hello Goodbye so much? It's such a light-hearted stupid song, I just don't see how it can be classified as the worst when you have lunbering failures like "She's so Heavy"

joe schmoe (joeschmoe), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

the most annoying one for me is "get back" by far. i hate this song. then maybe "lady madonna", "why don't we do it", "back in the ussr"... i think i dislike most macca's rockers actually (with many exceptions, of course). on the other hand, i like his twee songs (yeah, even "obladi" !)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Blue Jay Way, Flying, It's All Too Much--songs so nondescript you can't even get up the energy to hate them. Are covers considered for this? If so, Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby goes on the list, too.

moriarty (moriarty), Thursday, 22 December 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Yesterday" may be overplayed, but there is a reason why it is overplayed. Definitely a great song.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 23 December 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

"Ballad of John & Yoko" otm

Joe (Joe), Friday, 23 December 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, "Yesterday" is wonderful wonderful. It isn't even "overplayed" anymore, can't remember the last time I heard it outside my own playing of it.
"Come Together" though, that's another rotten one. Sick of that. I can imagine loads of musos "jamming" that track endlessly, like a bunch of wankers.

Wierdly I don't mind all that much "Ballad of John & Yoko", though it is a very John MEMEMEMEME MY LIFE IS INTERESTING LISTEN TO MEMEMEMEMEME! song, which is obviously typically cunty and annoying.

Merryweather (scarlet), Friday, 23 December 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

"Hey Jude" is near torture to me. Can't stand the rest of their stuff either though.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 23 December 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Come Together" though, that's another rotten one. Sick of that. I can imagine loads of musos "jamming" that track endlessly, like a bunch of wankers.

Just because a song is overplayed or is liked by the wrong sort of people doesn't mean it's disqualified from greatness.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 23 December 2005 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

If this was the case, half of the Beatles singles would be disqualified.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 23 December 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

Surely, something on the early albums--some filler, perhaps--is worse than these here classics...

Knave Tin Adolf (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 23 December 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

I vote for none of them.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 23 December 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, Tim.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 23 December 2005 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

We laid out your robe and pajamas in the guest room. There's food in the fridge; here's the landlord's cell number in case the electricity cuts off. Have fun!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 23 December 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

You know what? I'll actually vote for "What Goes On."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

Much worse than "Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby" which is freaking Carl Perkins and begins with the awesome line "Well they took some honey from a tree/Dressed it up and they called it me."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

"Yer Blues" is pretty horrific (and not in a good way).

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

(he says exposing his preference for McCartney)

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

"You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)" is a pretty crappy song, but I was thinking about making it my new screen name.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

While we're at it, is their a more bewildering song in their catalogue than "Fixing A Hole"?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

"It's so easy for a girl like you to lie" hi-fucking-larious line, though ...

literalisp (literalisp), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

While we're at it, is their a more bewildering song in their catalogue than "Fixing A Hole"?

George Burns' cover is mah-velous.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus fuck, sounds like somebody else saw that movie on cable recently ... never had myself. The gatefold doesn't do the horror justice.

literalisp (literalisp), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

you're taking this bad-taste thing too far Alfred

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

btw, I am at a coffeehouse in Minneapolis listening to a horrendous bossa nova version of "The Fool on the Hill" and it is reminding me that "Mr. Moonlight" was a cover. of their originals, this is the Beatles' worst--every bad thing about McCartney (cutesy, airheaded, faux-naive) at once.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

shirley bassey's version of "fool on the hill" is dynamite though!

inger lynde (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

Sergio Mendes at the coffeehouse, I'd bet.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yellow Goddamn Submarine. Always reminds me of mucus and scurvy-ridden sailors and false gaiety.

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Friday, 23 December 2005 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

all the covers - especially mr mmonlight .
original - 'flying' the only song written by all four is a non-event.

retrogurl, Friday, 23 December 2005 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

The Too Long And Winding Song, obviously. Not only has it got McCartney at his mawkish worst, but then Phil Spector - PROVEN FACT could not produce a rock band - comes and even further mashes it into the stratosphere. And you hear it all the time, unlike say Dig A Pony, which makes it 10 times worse.
-- Ally (garance8...), December 11th, 2000.
and if you hear "let it be naked' you'll hear the beatles version without spector's wall of sound.it's not bettre or worse just different.

retrogurl, Friday, 23 December 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago)

oh GAWD, bungalow bill is atrocious. i love the white alb to death but man there are some atrocities on that thing.
-- jess (dubplatestyl...), March 31st, 2003.
didn't david bowie steal the verses for 'space oddity' ?

retrogurl, Friday, 23 December 2005 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

Phil Spector - PROVEN FACT could not produce a rock band

Sorry for the detour, but End of the Century is easily the best Ramones album.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

No way.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 23 December 2005 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, Brettino, those sailors really were gay.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 23 December 2005 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, can I change my vote to 'Let It Be'?

I quite like Macca's stuff, but his sentimental stuff really pisses me off!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 23 December 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

you people are all crazy. knocking "What Goes On"?! (Buck Owens can't be touched!) "We Can Work it Out"? George's psych-period songs?!?

I'll go with one of Macca's more soppy moments - Yesterday is kinda tolerable, but Long and Winding Road ewwwww

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 December 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

(hmm wait I'm confusing What Goes On w/Act Naturally - but What Goes On is still great)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 December 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

That's okay. It's really John doing that intro to Mr. Moonlight, not Paul.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 23 December 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, Brettino, those sailors really were gay.

Good to know, but I was talking about the mood of the song. Of course, you probably are aware of that, and were just trying to inject some humor into the thread, and that's cool.

brettino's bounce, Friday, 23 December 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't "Tomorrow Never Knows" stray a bit too far from the Mersey sound?

Don Glaser, Saturday, 24 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'll go with one of Macca's more soppy moments - Yesterday is kinda tolerable, but Long and Winding Road ewwwww
What, nobody voted for "Eleanor Rigby"? And don't you tell me about Aretha Franklin.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Saturday, 24 December 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't "Tomorrow Never Knows" stray a bit too far from the Mersey sound?

Yes, thankfully, as it's the Beatles' best song.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 24 December 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

"Bungalow Bill" must die.

sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 25 December 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

My vote is for "Yesterday,"
I like how George intros the (first-ever?) live version of "Yesterday" on Anthology 1 with "And so, for Paul McCartney of Liverpool, opportunity knocks" and then John outros with "Thank you, Ringo, that was wonderful."

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

It agree with whoever it was upthread complaining about how everyone hates on the children's songs. It's such a knee jerk "I'm such a cool, cynical hipster" kinda reaction. Octopus's Garden is sweet, with a pretty nifty surf guitar solo from George, Yellow Submarine has given kids hours of fun, and even All Together Now isn't so bad. Maxwell's Silver Hammer is pretty annoying cos of the shit chorus, but the Moog on there is far out!

Some complete insanity on this thread - Twist and Shout, Love Me Do and She Loves You shit?!! WTF??!!

And just cos songs like Get Back and Don't Let Me Down presage the stodgy 70s rock sound doesn't make them shit in themselves. The latter is full of yearning loveliness.

Run For Your Life - true story or not, it's nasty and drab. Undoubtedly one of the worst.
Piggies has a nice arrangement, but it's a case of George Martin polishing a turd.
Bungalow Bill's chorus pretty awful - although the verse is actually quite decent, has a nice sense of drama. I kinda see the Space Oddity comparison.

Your Mother Should Know is grate. Paul pulling off the nostalgia for once. Honey Pie I hated when I was 14, quite like now.
I'm really liking some solo Paul. Ram is rightly enjoying a reappraisal but Band On The Run is pretty damn sweet. He didn't trul jump the shark until Mull Of Kintyre, when he cleared the beast and kept on flying into oblivion.

stew s, Monday, 26 December 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Revolution Number nine ... number nine ... number nine

There may be something there I am missing, but that seemed pretty much an overproduced mail-in.

Tiny Johnson, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

How about Act Naturally? That's an awful song. But to be fair, I don't think they wrote it, only covered it.

Merry, Friday, 6 January 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

they did only cover it, but its certainly not the worst, i actually like it quite a bit!

honey pie strikes me immediately as one that's SO bad that it's unlistenable. it pains me to hear it. as much as you may dislike act naturally - or any song anywhere for that matter, does it actually cause that much discomfort to merit hate?

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

i know its been mentioned so many times already but i HATE the long and winding road. its the only beatles song i literally dislike.

But I also don't like Michelle and Tommorrow Never Knows

Anna B, Saturday, 14 January 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Having listened to all of the Beatles' songs, only ONCE I found myself praying for it to end - my ears were almost bleeding!!! Of course I'm talking about "Mr. Moonlight". Although it was a cover, it was for sure the worst thing they ever recorded. Simply pathetic. I would extend, but I'm not willing to listen to it again to make a longer critic.

I've always disliked "Hello, Goodbye" and "The long and winding road", but I won't dare saying they are bad songs, I'm simply not touched by them. And to people who say they hate "Hey Jude" and "Penny Lane"... get some help.

By the way, I disagree with most of the songs in this thread, especially concerning Harrisongs. Why is the man so underrated? 'Within you without you', 'Love you to', 'Piggies'... bad songs??!!! COME ON!! I also find "Run for your life" entertaining and hilarious, "I want you (She's so heavy)" an interesting experiment, and I ADORE the suite at the end of Abbey Road (I even think that placing "Her Majesty" at the end was a good idea). And I love "Free as a bird"!!

P.S.: of course, I'm not considering "Revolution 9" a song.

Carlos del Saz, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Do You Want To Know A Secret

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Michelle - terrible.

I thought it characteristic of Macca that, in the authorised biog 'Many Year from Now', he is still rankled 30 years on by David Bailey asking him if that song was taking the piss.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)


i'm suprised 'why don't we do it in the road?' has only been mentioned once in the four year history of this thread. such an obvious effort by mccartney to rock it up that's just annoying and trite.

michelle is one of my favorites.

Ben H (Ben H), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Just mentioning something in the course of the long and extensive interviews that Barry Miles did with him doesn't mean he's still rankled about it. In fact, he doesn't sound rankled about it to me at all. Teh quote:

"I saw David Bailey down the Ad Lib not long after it came out and he said, "'Ere, that 'Michelle'. It IS tounge in cheek; you ARE joking with that, aren't you?" He thought it was a parody of a French song, which in many ways it is. He thought that was funny."

"I said, 'Fuck off!', quite taken aback that he thought it was a joke. I was very insulted. But I knew what he meant."

Macca Defense Front out today: Keep ya guard up, hataz!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Two words:

Paul.

McCartney.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'll slap home another vote for "Long & Winding." It feels like the song that presaged all the dreariness of growing up with 70s suburban radio, makes me think of owls sewn on to string bags or something (yeah, i know there's an owls thread)!

paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

I used to hate "Long & Winding Road" but grew to enjoy it after hearing the "Naked" version.

"Devil in her Heart" may be my most honest response to the question.

darin (darin), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Mr. Moonlight truly is a stinkfest. I think things got pretty rank around the time of "Beatles For Sale" and "Help". Some of the covers and the originals lacked the conviction you already expected after hearing "With The Beatles" and "Hard Day's Night". I like how I'm talking about these albums like I was in the UK when they were released. Anyhow, I vote "What Goes On" as a stinker. "The Word" bugs the shit out of me, too. "Wait" too. Rubber Soul hate dripping from me, here.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
I dont really hate any of the beatles songs, theres just some i listen to more :) i like the beatles so much because my dad got me into them 13 years ago when i was 9 and i usally like the stuff he likes ( hello uriah heep) i guess it depends on how long you listened to them :)

damien hanigan, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Another vote for "The Long and Winding Road", although the previous winner was always "Mr. Moonlight".

So Ho La (So Ho La), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yup.

In The Court Of The Redd King Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

"Old Brown Shoe." Never understood how this shoulda-been-outtake made it onto the 67-70 double album.

Runners-up: "Run For Your Life" (yep) and "What You're Doing" (completely awkward vocal part that seems dubbed in from an entirely different song).

mike a, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

If bootlegs count: "No Pakistanis."

http://www.beatles-discography.com/lyrics/no-pakistanis.html

mike a, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

"Old Brown Shoe" doesn't belong in the comp, true, but it's a fine song in its own right.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in the White Album should have been a single disc camp.

Rocky Raccoon, Bungalow Bill, Revolution 9: all good reasons why the skip button was invented.

Just really self-indulgent, throwaway nonsense fuelled by willful "randomness."

Viz (Viz), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

apologies if this has already been mentioned, but "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"...(in fact, Steve Martin's version is superior)...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

ahh..."Maxwell's Silver Hammer" has been mentioned...in spades...

"Eleanor Rigby", then...never hated it, but always disliked it...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

bad boy is pretty terrible.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Have we ever done a DOX for The Beatles?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Aw c'mon, Lennon's vocals absolutely shred on Bad Boy!

x-post

darin (darin), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Have we ever done a DOX for The Beatles?
-- Geir Hongro

IIRC, you yourself did one on the Beatles POX thread.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Revolution No 9: a work of absolute genius at least 20 years before its time...made even more staggering when it's heard in the context of what Lennon said about it in 1968 ie words to the effect that "one day all music will be made this way" and "it won't even be necessary to be a musician to create it".
If anything says that if Lennon had been born 25 years or more later he would have been making electronic music and not shitey contemporary guitar music it's surely that...

PS If he'd only overuled the rest of the group and released it as a single like he originally wanted...Revolution No9 at No1...it would have been quite possibly pop's greatest ever moment

harbourlights (harbourlights), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'd just like to add another vote for "Hey Jude".

Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
I'm all for stimulating and incisive debate where music is concerned, but "Worst Beatles Song"? Having listened my way through most of their back catalogue and the Anthologies, most songs have some musical, textual or spitirual merit, and although there are a few that I might not have released myself, they all mark a defining point in music between the rock 'n' roll era and the experimental/prog rock/psych rock etc.

Every one a classic!

Andrew Munro, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Bad Boy is the worst Beatles song:

"Well he worries his teacher
Till at night... SHE'S READY TO POOP?!?!?!??!"

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

"Bad Boy is the worst Beatles song"
its a cover.and its a good one.

ccccccc, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

I Wanna Be Your Man. What a dud. Also Run For Your Life and Doctor Robert.

Steve Goldberg (Steve Goldberg), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

"poop out" - that's what you do when you're tired

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 May 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

Revolution No 9: a work of absolute genius at least 20 years before its time...made even more staggering when it's heard in the context of what Lennon said about it in 1968 ie words to the effect that "one day all music will be made this way" and "it won't even be necessary to be a musician to create it".
If anything says that if Lennon had been born 25 years or more later he would have been making electronic music and not shitey contemporary guitar music it's surely that...

I love this post.

(Doesn't make Revolution no 9 any more listenable, though)

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Thursday, 25 May 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

at least 20 years before its time

what a totally overblown statement

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Thursday, 25 May 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say "Revolution 9"... but is that really a song?

"Long and Winding Road" -- pure treacle.

Sean Robison (yaratnam), Thursday, 25 May 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

I guess this is the best place for this. From this month's Mojo; Oasis, Yoko, Arcade Fire, U2, Brian Wilson etc etc choose their favourite 101 Fab Fab tracks

101 Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
100 Run For Your Life
99 You Know My Name (Look Up My Number)
98 Shimmy Shake
97 Octopus's Garden
96 I'll Be Back
95 All My Loving
94 Flying
93 Michelle
92 It's Only Love
91 Mother Nature's Son
90 Back In The USSR
89 Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite
88 Glass Onion
87 Money
86 Lovely Rita
85 It's All Too Much
84 You Won't See Me
83 Good Morning, Good Morning
82 All I've Got To Do
81 Because
80 Long, Long, Long
79 Got To Get You Into My Life
78 Yer Blues
77 Get Back
76 I'll Get You
75 Only A Northern Song
74 Day Tripper
73 The Ballard Of John and Yoko
72 We Can Work It Out
71 The Fool On The Hill
70 I Should Have Known Better
69 Julia
68 There's A Place
67 Yellow Submarine
66 I'm Down
65 Revolution #9
64 Lady Madonna
63 No Reply
62 Blackbird
61 Hold Me Tight
60 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
59 Hey Bulldog
58 For No One
57 Yes It Is
56 You're Gonna Lose That Girl
55 Sexy Sadie
54 I Will
53 Help!
52 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
51 Love Me Do
50 Let It Be
49 Getting Better
48 Taxman
47 From Me To You
46 Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me and My Monkey
45 I Feel Fine
44 Dear Prudence
43 If I Fell
42 Drive My Car
41 And Your Bird Can Sing
40 Twist and Shout
39 Helter Skelter
38 I Am The Walrus
37 Paperback Writer
36 Hello Goodbye
35 It Won't Be Long
34 I Want You (She's So Heavy)
33 She's Leaving Home
32 Across The Universe
31 Don't Let Me Down
30 Here, There and Everywhere
29 I'm Only Sleeping
28 All You Need Is Love
27 The Long and Riding Road
26 She Said, She Said
25 Nowhere Man
24 Please Please me
23 Ticket To Ride
22 I Saw Her Standing There
21 Here Comes The Sun
20 Rain
19 Norweigen Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
18 Can't Buy Me Love
17 While My Guitar Gently Weeps
16 Revolution
15 With A Little Help From My Friends
14 I Want To Hold Your Hand
13 Come Together
12 Hey Jude
11 Eleanor Rigby
10 A Hard Day's Night
9 Penny Lane
8 Happiness Is A Warm Gun
7 Something
6 In My Life
5 She Loves You
4 Tomorrow Never Knows
3 Yesterday
2 Strawberry Fields Forever
1 A Day In The Life

No "Girl", "You Never Give Me Your Money", "Eight Days A Week", "I'm So Tired" or "And I Love Her" here and some awful dreck in place (101, 100, 98 and 92 jump straight out) "Long, Long, Long", "It's All Too Much" and "Back In The USSR" all below "Hey Bulldog" and "Love Me Do"?

By year.

1962 2
1963 13
1964 7
1965 17
1966 12
1967 15
1968 19
1969 11
1970 5

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

If I ever see a Beatles-related list in a music mag that I actually agree with AT ALL, I think my head would explode.

musically (musically), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Among official, pre-breakup releases only - no Tony Sheridan, etc. The bottom 10, from most-worst to least-worst:

1. Only A Northern Song
2. What Goes On
3. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
4. I Need You
5. Another Girl
6. Love You To
7. I've Got a Feeling
8. Ask Me Why
9. It's All Too Much
10. One After 909

Dan Heilman (The Deacon), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

"I Feel Fine" at #45 is ridiculous. It should be in the top ten, at the least. (Uh, of best Beatles songs, I mean.)

James, Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Why do people hate on "Rocky Raccoon", "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and "Piggies"? These are fun songs!! For me it's the other way round - all the hoary rockers like "Back In The USSR" do absolutely nothing for me. I like "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" it's really drugged out and dirgy for a Beatles song.

I don't like Mean Mr Mustard and Polythene Pam - really shit.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Dr Robert and Lovely Rita sound really awkward to me as well.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Don't Pass Me By induces vomit.

Venga (Venga), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

is this the oldest ILM thread?

my vote: ACT NATURALLY. worse (yes it is shush) than even
IF YOU'VE GOT TROUBLES.

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

The worst beatles song, is a toss up between:

You know what to do
and
Plenty of Jam Jars.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

1963 13
1964 7
1965 17

that's a very interesting stat from MOJO there. no irony intended.

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

8. Ask Me Why

That's crazy talk.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

A disappointingly low placing for Ob-la-di ob-la-da. The genius behind that song is rarely acknowledged.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

"...oh bla di bla da brother!"

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

For me it's the other way round - all the hoary rockers like "Back In The USSR" do absolutely nothing for me.

Sure, but why did you pick one of the few good rockers they did. "Back In The USSR" has that Beach Boys-influenced middle-eight that saves it from being just as boring as "Yer Blues", "Why Don't We Do It In The Road" and "Come Together".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 1 June 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

The reason that Ob-la-di-ob-la-da is so low is because many people think it's by Marmalade. Similarly everyone thinks Please Mr Postman is by the Carpenters, and Roll Over Beethoven is by.... uh.... that other group......

JTS (JTS), Thursday, 1 June 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

"Lovely Rita" for sure. It sounds like it was written by Billy Joel while he was on the toilet.

bernaner (dayvidday), Thursday, 1 June 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Odd list from Dan.
Only a Northern Song isn't that horrible. It doesn't really hang together and the tune isn't particuarly strong, but the fuzz bass and syncopated rhythms make it sound remarkably modern. Would make a good loop.
Likewise It's All Too Much. Obviously Bobby Gillespie has taken too many drugs if he thinks this is the Beatles finest moment, or indeed the birth of Krautrock (see the mag for the quotes) but it has some nice ideas in it.

And whoever said Act Naturally - well, for a start it's a Buck Owens song, and he's the man. Not a great cover, but a great song nonetheless.

Most overrated Beatles song - Across The Universe?
Spector's olegienous production does ruin what is a sweet, if rather drippy song. It's the precursor to Imagine in many ways, which doesn't do it any favours.

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 1 June 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

There are some odd choices in that top 100 - Yer Blues? Lovely Rita? Flying? (which is actually quite a likeable wee instrumental but no classic) - particularly when the likes of Girl, Eight Days A Week, I'm So Tired etc aren't in there.

There are some odd comments in there. The bloke from the Zutons thinks Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey is about wanking, when surely it's a fairly obvious heroin reference?

Still, some nice unexpected choices too. Top marks to Norman Blake for picking out Mother Nature's Son, one of Paul's loveliest.

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 1 June 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

Birthday

shookout (shookout), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

piggies is the most annoying thing ever

karri miback (cruisy), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

Karri, have you ever heard Styx?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

weirdly i havent!

karri miback (cruisy), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

has no one mentioned "you say it's your birthday"?

never liked that song.

Emily B (Emily B), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...
I hate the Beatles but live with a Beatles fanatic who even opened a Beatles museum. I have to admit that I do catch myself singing along to them, though. I hate Revolver the most, and once smashed a copy to pieces at a party when I was a teenager.

Kirsten, London

Kirsten, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Parts of Revolver are indeed harsh on the ears. It starts with the guitar in Taxman, gets round to the horn parts in Got to Get You Into My Life, and don't forget those guitar parts in And Your Bird Can Sing. It's such a relief to get to Tomorrow Never Knows when they just stay on one major chord, thank God.

calstars, Saturday, 10 March 2007 01:58 (eighteen years ago)

The answer is, 'If I Needed Someone.'

calstars, Saturday, 10 March 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

More like "The Long-Winded Rogue"

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 March 2007 02:02 (eighteen years ago)

If Revolver is wrong, I don't want to be right.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 10 March 2007 04:42 (eighteen years ago)

wtf? If I Needed Someone is great, and I'm pretty lukewarm on the Beatles

gershy, Saturday, 10 March 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

#9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

for fuck's sake guys the answer is clearly one of their faceless early bluesy brainfarts which nobody can remember the title of because it was so fucking forgettable. hello goodbye is one of their very best songs, as is i want you, as is lucy in the sky with diamonds (how on EARTH was that one nominated?!). almost EVERYONE has plumped for a later Beatles track, this is plainly madness.

unfished business, Saturday, 10 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

What's an example of one of their "early bluesy brainfarts?"

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

A song from one of their early albums; I've heard most of them and very little has stuck (the music being, on the whole, extremely generic and hella dull...they got ok-ish around AHDN, good around Help, very good around Rubber Soul etc). I don't know individual track names. Don't try and nullify my argument by preying on my lack of specifics; I know a stinker when I hear it, and I'm rarely tempted to put myself through it again.

unfished business, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

very little has stuck

Well, they're not glue!

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

Ulaf in the Helicopter with Unguent

unfished business, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Poppage in the Vagina with Analz

unfished business, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Revolution No 9: a work of absolute genius at least 20 years before its time...made even more staggering when it's heard in the context of what Lennon said about it in 1968 ie words to the effect that "one day all music will be made this way" and "it won't even be necessary to be a musician to create it".
If anything says that if Lennon had been born 25 years or more later he would have been making electronic music and not shitey contemporary guitar music it's surely that...


I shouldn't respond to this, not least cause it's in a post from mid 2006, but...

Yes, it was a big deal for something like Revolution #9 to be included on an album by a pop group in the late 1960s, but the work can only be considered "at least 20 years before it's time" by those listeners who haven't heard the previous 15-20 years of musique concrete by dozens of composers.

Sure, more people have heard Revolution #9 than have probably heard all of the works of, say, Pierre Henri & Pierre Schaffer combined, but that's more of a breakthrough in the field of marketing than in the field of composition as such.

Herb Levy, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

The boys exerted a rather stunning quality control -- yet another reason why they're The Best. But, anyway, here are my picks:

"You Like Me Too Much"
"Only a Northern Song"
"Your Mother Should Know"
"Good Morning, Good Morning"
"Mother Nature's Son"
"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"
"Hello Goodbye"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 11 March 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

"Hello Goodbye"

The hate this song gets is utterly baffling to me.

"Good Morning, Good Morning"

;_______;

unfished business, Sunday, 11 March 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

Probably "Honey Pie," as long as we're going with stuff on the main albums, and not random crap like "What's the New Mary Jane."

The amount of Harrison-hating on this thread is sad-making. Why on earth would you hate "If I Needed Someone?" That song is brilliant.

clotpoll, Sunday, 11 March 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

Why on earth would you hate "If I Needed Someone?" "Honey Pie?" That song is brilliant.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 11 March 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

What's an example of one of their "early bluesy brainfarts?"

I Wanna Be Your Man?

St3ve Go1db3rg, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, it was a big deal for something like Revolution #9 to be included on an album by a pop group in the late 1960s, but the work can only be considered "at least 20 years before it's time" by those listeners who haven't heard the previous 15-20 years of musique concrete by dozens of composers.

Sure, more people have heard Revolution #9 than have probably heard all of the works of, say, Pierre Henri & Pierre Schaffer combined, but that's more of a breakthrough in the field of marketing than in the field of composition as such.


yes and no. lennon, yoko, and harrison's approach to tape composition was informed far more by lennon's (as ian mcdonald put it) "pop-bred sensibility" than by yoko's philosophies -- and in the process they managed to prove that not only could they do everything that henry, schaeffer, nono, et al could do, but also everything they couldn't do. simultaneously, as it turned out. and one could argue that they already proved this point with "tomorrow never knows" anyway.

and releasing a beatles album in 1968, no matter what was on it, didn't exactly require any kind of marketing strategy, much less a "breakthrough." alls they needed to do was announce that the beatles were releasing a new record. it markets itself!

Lawrence the Looter, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

What in the world is wrong with "I Wanna Be Your Man?" I mean, if you're looking for good John Lennon rhythm guitar playing, there you go. If rhythm guitar playing means nothing to you, then you shouldn't buy Bo Diddley records.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 11 March 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

Apologize for coming off combative, by the way. I do kind of hear a characterization of "I Wanna Be Your Man" as a "bluesy brainfart" as maybe suggesting a casual write-off of basic rock and roll, though.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 12 March 2007 00:43 (eighteen years ago)

What is John Lennon even doing on that track, by the way??? It sounds like there's tremolo, but I can't fathom where the attacks are at all.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

yes and no. lennon, yoko, and harrison's approach to tape composition was informed far more by lennon's (as ian mcdonald put it) "pop-bred sensibility" than by yoko's philosophies -- and in the process they managed to prove that not only could they do everything that henry, schaeffer, nono, et al could do, but also everything they couldn't do. simultaneously, as it turned out. and one could argue that they already proved this point with "tomorrow never knows" anyway.

and releasing a beatles album in 1968, no matter what was on it, didn't exactly require any kind of marketing strategy, much less a "breakthrough." alls they needed to do was announce that the beatles were releasing a new record. it markets itself!


Besides being heard by millions of listeners because of it's release on a Beatles album, rather than hundreds like earlier musique concrete pieces (which is the marketing "breakthrough" I meant in my earlier post) and the corollary possibility of many more listeners having the opportunity to become familiar with the details of the piece through repetition, what exactly does Revolution #9 do that previous composers "couldn't do"?

To my ears it's a good example of the genre, but I really don't hear how Revolution #9 as a pieces of music, goes beyond the range of work that dozens of composers had already done in hundreds of pieces. I would appreciate it if you could be specific about which features of Revolution #9 you think are unique extensions beyond what had been done in the form earlier, cause i just don't hear it that way.

Herb Levy, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

'ob-la-di-ob-la-da'. there are worse but somehow this one really sticks in the proverbial craw.

That one guy that quit, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Right, I did a quick word-skim counting the beatles titles, and the one mentioned most often is:


Yesterday.

Mark G, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

The uniqueness of R#9 comes from its perspective rather than structural innovations as such (since the latter largely derive from the contemporaneous work of Richard Maxfield, much more so than, say, Hymnen), namely that of a specific sense of post-war Englishness which owes something to the direct absorption and manipulation of various pre-existing musical effects as pioneered out of aesthetic necessity by the BBC, firstly in the context of The Goon Show (whose key records, lest we forget, were produced by George Martin, who remembered many of his tricks a dozen years later for this new purpose) and later in the form of the Radiophonic Workshop. As opposed to, say, Darmstadt or Manhattan, we are left in no doubt that this work could only have been originated in England. The Cagean tactics would have been brought in by Yoko, but these are demonstrably and audibly secondary to the piece's general mood and tone.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

Mark G: You didn't count all of the posts from "Yesterday," did you?

MC, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

ACH!!! :- )

Mark G, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, the correct answer is "Mr Moonlight."

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

"Plenty of jam jars baybeeee
Plenty of Jam Jars for youuuuu"

Mark G, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Plenty of jam jars is mad sick, don't be frontin

billstevejim, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

Paul used to collect jam jars.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 03:21 (eighteen years ago)

"I Want You (She's So Heavy)"


Old ilm blows!

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 03:22 (eighteen years ago)

wow...I had always considered I Want You to be pure brilliance. You need to listen to that song high (just green'll do, you don't have to go all heroiny like john, though that may give you the authentic perspective ;)), perhaps then you haters will be able to appreciate its simultaneous hilarity (that little smooth jazzy bit that comes in in the middle) and intensity. Actually, maybe all you need is Lennon's original "drowning in yoko" metaphor, that did it for me.

Oh look, an online reference...ctrl-F for "i want you". A great book, incidentally:http://www.geocities.com/wireless_machine/lennon/remembers3.htm

gps, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Little Child is pretty fucking awful, and kind of creepy to boot

akm, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

Runners-up: "Run For Your Life" (yep) and "What You're Doing" (completely awkward vocal part that seems dubbed in from an entirely different song).

*Sigh* Two of my favorite Beatle songs.

Jazzbo, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Ob-la-di. Reggae is the one genre the Beatles dabbled in that they were just totally shit at.

chap, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

ob-la-di-ob-la-da is reggae? rly?

tom, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's trying to be.

chap, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

I never saw that as an attempt at reggae.

Jazzbo, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

I remember something in Ian MacDonald's book that McCartney was hanging around with lots of West indians at the time and wanted to make a ska track.

chap, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

Well, whatever, it's not like they were trying to be authentic about it and failed. I think the final version took shape around Lennon's piano part.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway the point is I dislike it.

chap, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Phil Spector - PROVEN FACT could not produce a rock band

i feel the need to chime in six and a half years later to note that this is an extemely bizarre thing to say about the man who produced the ronettes, the crystals, etc.

as for ob-la-di, i thik that's quite clearly a stab at ska and, yes, it's not one of their better tracks.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I had to perform Obladi-Oblada in assembly at primary school. I was Desmond. If you think the Beatles version is bad, you haven't heard 20 bored seven-year-olds with 5 recorders and a triangle. Also memorable for the sniggers after every "Bra".




tom, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

you haven't heard 20 bored seven-year-olds with 5 recorders and a triangle

as if we've never heard a polyphonic spree record.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

true true

tom, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

"i feel the need to chime in six and a half years later to note that this is an extemely bizarre thing to say about the man who produced the ronettes, the crystals, etc"

but both of those groups were pop vocal groups, not rock'n'roll, no?

outdoor_miner, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

was "bra" supposed to be like saying "bro"? I never got that bit.

akm, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

but both of those groups were pop vocal groups, not rock'n'roll, no?

they were core rock and roll groups who had significant pop success. not unlike elvis or the beatles or, oh, green day. and of course you could also call all of these units pop groups, and i wouldn't argue with you.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

The drums on those Phil Spector records really feel like rock and roll.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway the point is I dislike it.

Sure. I was just suggesting that it's inability to be faithful to a genre probably isn't the reason.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

Really? No "Old Brown Shoe" in the six-plus years of this thread's existence? Let that be my vote, then.

mike a, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

It's funny, you know, almost a decade after becoming a fairly big McCartney convert (I'd sold all my McCartney solo records at one point), I can still feel myself sort of gagging at the idea of something like "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da." But - again, just for me - I sort of don't buy this in myself. I feel like I'm projecting something on to it. I just listened to it now and, you know, the words don't bother me. I think they're meant to be kind of incidental - random, slightly surreal character sketches.

Anyway, the song itself is quite a nice track, I think - very nicely written and a really good vocal by Paul. Do people object to anything in the song other than the words?

The title phrase and "life goes on, bra" came from a Nigerian conga player friend of Paul's from London, btw.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

listen to arthur "sweet soul music" conley's version of ob-la-di-ob-la-da for an example that sounds that much closer to classic ska. but he, too, apparently didn't know what "bra" meant, changing it to something like "life goes on, yeah!"

fact checking cuz, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I was under the understanding that all the beatles songs sucked.

wesley useche, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

many xposts

Tim, I don't know, "I Wanna be Your Man" isn't really special in any way, it just seems like one of the better examples of the sort of automatic lazy stuff they sometimes fell back on in their early days. I don't like The Beatles because they imitated blues and early rock n rollers, I like them because they did that and so much more.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

Do people object to anything in the song other than the words?

I think the overall composition of Ob La Di Ob La Da is kind of weak musically for McCartney esp. in context of what else he was capable of at that time. Falling back on I IV V chord progressions in order to explore genre exercises or whatever you want to call it seems a little lazy to me. So yeah, I don't think the lyrics are the only reason most people don't care for the tune. I have the same problems with Back in the U.S.S.R. come to think of it...

darin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

i love "i wanna be your man." it's the beatles at their most rocking. and it's not quite as automatic as it might seem. that chorus takes some liberties with the standard rock/blues changes.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

And yeah, Lennon did the same type of genre sketchs on the white album, but his sense of humor helped lend a bit of credibility to it all, IMHO.

darin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

(x-post to myself)

darin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

"I Wanna be Your Man" isn't really special in any way

Except for the Lennon rhythm guitar part I mentioned. : D

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 24 March 2007 00:08 (eighteen years ago)

they were core rock and roll groups who had significant pop success. not unlike elvis or the beatles or, oh, green day.

I want to hear this Phil Spector Green Day album. There's no way it could be worse than American Idiot and I could see it actually being really good.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 March 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

I just ripped the "1" collection, and have to agree with "Long and Winding Road." Sorry, it's a real drag no matter what the imagery may be. It comes the closest to "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love" which I assume we're not counting...

MC, Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

I think the overall composition of Ob La Di Ob La Da is kind of weak musically for McCartney esp. in context of what else he was capable of at that time.

I agree with this. It also has a really forced-sounding chirpiness to it.

chap, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

His vocal is kind of restrained and cool, though. That's why I don't hear it that way.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Paul was the coolest

http://www.poster.net/mccartney-paul/mccartney-paul-photo-paul-mccartney-and-linda-mccartney-6206378.jpg

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

While "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da" will never be even remotely close to my favourites, I am still able to see it as the genre exercise it was, and as such I don't judge it by the usual criteria. Obviously, the song is trite and oversimplistic, with very boring harmonies. But it was meant to be that way, and I don't think it represents what McCartney would normally try to do at the time if he wanted to do his best rather than just "fuck around".

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

What makes you think he was "fucking around" more here than on some song that had three more chords in it?

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Hello Goodbye or Hey Jude.

Also, anyone who hates Fool on the Hill is a chump and can suck it.

the table is the table, Saturday, 24 March 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

I have actually pretty much always hated "Norwegian Wood," but I suspect I am in the severest possible minority.

Whereas Paul's worst characteristic is his enthusiasm for even the most terrible of his songs, John's worst characteristic was the lazy and tossed-off quality of his post-stardom vocals. His contempt for the whole enterprise of rock and roll becomes overt in his solo work, but you can hear him phoning in his vocals on a lot of Beatles records as well. "Norwegian Wood" is one of them; the repetitive melody doesn't help matters one whit. It is a flaccid song.

And yet everyone but me loves it to pieces, so what do I know.

I will also defend Harrison, or at least early-Beatle Harrison. "I Need You" is an underrated track from Help, and I will defend "Here Comes the Sun" to my grave.

So.

I will therefore reluctantly posit that "What Goes On" is the worst Beatles song.

The Mad Puffin, Sunday, 25 March 2007 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

I will also defend Harrison, or at least early-Beatle Harrison.

So, props to "Don't Bother Me" and "You Know What To Do" then? :)

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 25 March 2007 00:59 (eighteen years ago)

Yes to the former.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 25 March 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)

I will also defend Harrison, or at least early-Beatle Harrison. "I Need You" is an underrated track from Help, and I will defend "Here Comes the Sun" to my grave.

People begin sentences like this, declaring that they're about to "defend" something, in a vague way -- it's quite exciting -- and by the end of the sentence nothing has happened. I've watched this and it's true.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 25 March 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

"Don't Bother Me" is another really cool Lennon rhythm guitar tune. He's got the tremolo going on that one, too. Don't know if you can hear him clearly on the mono With the Beatles; I'm listening to a stereo copy of Meet the Beatles. Sounds great when George does his solo and the two guitars are going together.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Woo, "Wild Honey Pie".

souldesqueeze, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

No one's mentioned 'Michelle'?

Bob Six, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

Why should they? "Michelle" is a great song.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 26 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Geir OTM!

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

I don't hear anything wrong with the George Harrison songs. Some of them are quite good.

I do hear something wrong with the throwaway rock songs like "Yer Blues" and "Get Back". "Don't let me down" makes me cringe.

Paul's fluff songs are so unassuming that they seem to exempt themselves from criticism. "The long and winding road", however, takes itself more seriously. And it's ghastly. I've always been flummoxed by its popularity.

Rich Smörgasbord, Thursday, 29 March 2007 05:26 (eighteen years ago)

Yer Blues is fucking awesome.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 05:35 (eighteen years ago)

The Beatles did way too many crappy novelty songs. One of those would be the worst.

underpants of the gods, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

Come on now, "Don't Let Me Down" is a classic. Billy Preston and such.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Thursday, 29 March 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

Yer Blues is fucking awesome.

that's the song i'm listening to right now. and yes, it is awesome.

"The long and winding road" is a good pick for worst beatles song. So many things wrong with it. Paul's schmaltz reaches a new low, spector's overproduction ruins an already bad song.

kenan, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

Yer Blues is fucking awe[s]some[/s)ful.

Corrected.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yer Blues is fucking awesomeful.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Michelle is one of my favs fer sher

Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Revive!

"What's the New Mary Jane?"

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:59 (seventeen years ago)

No way, there's about a hundred worse than that

Tom D., Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

"Plenty of Jam Jars"

Mark G, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

I find Hello Goodbye quite irritating myself. It's probably not their worst, but it's their most well known song that I think is a bit shit.

chap, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

How the fuck has no one mentioned that "When I'm Sixty-Four" piece of shit yet?

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

They did so many shit songs it's hard to know where to start

Tom D., Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

"Free As A Bird"

Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Elanor Rigby is such a crap

Dan I., Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

"Your Mother Should Know" is dreadful, so is the accompanying promo film.

grocery groin (snoball), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

No, those are good. 'All You Need Is Love' is the rotten one.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

"All You Need Is Love" is brilliant!

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

Once again I'm with Geir on this.

Worst one for me is always going to be You Know My Name (Look Up the Number). Yawn fest.

Nate Carson, Friday, 7 August 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

"The Long and Winding Road" is just so dry and boring it's the main reason I hardly ever listen to Let It Be. You think about being George, John, or Ringo, and finding out you're going to be working on this for the next month straight. No wonder the band broke up soon after.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 9 August 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

Interesting fact: "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)" is Paul's favorite Beatles song ever!

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 9 August 2009 15:27 (sixteen years ago)

Adam Bruneau OTM OTM OTM

Turangalila, Sunday, 9 August 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

For me, Wild Honey Pie is not a song I can listen to without trying to suffocate myself with a pillow. As for all you people who hate Mr. Moonlight, I don't know where you're coming from. That's one of my favorite covers by them. As for With the Beatles, That's definitely my least favorite Beatles album, and there's only 2 songs on it that I really care for (It Won't Be Long; Money). And I don't understand people who don't like George. He was my favorite Beatle, and there are no songs by him that I dislike. Love You To is absolutely a favorite, along with The Inner Light.

Wyatt, Sunday, 6 June 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Hold Me Tight from With The Beatles blows chunks. By far the worst cover was Till There Was You>

Jim, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 02:26 (fifteen years ago)

six years pass...

come together

flappy bird, Monday, 26 December 2016 18:35 (eight years ago)

Wild Honey Pie

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 December 2016 19:59 (eight years ago)

doctor robert

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Monday, 26 December 2016 20:00 (eight years ago)

regular honey pie, yeesh

paul's granny music indeed

just another (diamonddave85), Monday, 26 December 2016 21:48 (eight years ago)

across the universe

difficult listening hour, Monday, 26 December 2016 22:11 (eight years ago)

come together is a drag. wild honey pie is kinda great. doctor Robert just doesn't work properly as a song.honey pie is just fine. never understood why across the universe was so bad and hated - total melancholy for me. just emptiness and angst and existentialism. I actually love it.
I don't like Come Together or Back in the USSR or anything where they were just trying to do like really strutty rock songs. I always liked the silly Beatles. Piggies, Bungalow Bill, Maxwell. I loved those when I was first getting into them and it really hurt when I found out people more or less hate those.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 26 December 2016 22:36 (eight years ago)

Across the Universe?????????????????
man, in John's top 5 imo

Never understood the v widespread hate of wild honey pie, it's a minute long and it sounds weird and cool. I like regular honey pie but I get why one would pick that.

If any of y'all haven't heard the Esher Demos, check that shit out asap. May 1968 stoned four track acoustic demos of white album songs and outtakes (the version of Junk on there is better than the one on McCartney, and the demo of Mother Nature's Son made me appreciate the album version). Sweet vocal double tracking slipping in and out of place, little jokes, sounds, 30-ish songs

flappy bird, Monday, 26 December 2016 23:32 (eight years ago)

Ok, I'll take back by Wild Honey Pie vote (and though I don't think regular Honey Pie is that great, its placement in the sequence always pleases me)
Is Mr Moonlight a cover? I can't take that one at all

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 December 2016 23:43 (eight years ago)

Come Together? Idgi. Incredible bass and drum intro, surrealist Poe-etic lyrics with a Chuck Berry steal, what's not to like?

How I Wrote Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 December 2016 23:47 (eight years ago)

it's got an iconic groove and semi-clever wording but I guess its adoption by the post-Weller Brtipop crowd in the mid-90s affected my opinion of it. just feels stodgy and solid and rote

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 26 December 2016 23:52 (eight years ago)

You might wanna try listening to it for the first time again

mind = blown

niels, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 02:11 (eight years ago)

i feel the same way as dog latin, i mean for one thing it's one of the only songs John ever ripped off, and everything about is so fucking wack - the bassline, the turgid pace, the embarrassing lyrics. whenever i hear it i think an ad for a car or a burger or whatever is about to start. i hate abbey road (save the george songs), feels like BEATLES: THE DISNEYLAND RIDE!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 02:19 (eight years ago)

The lyrics are great v sly portraits of each beatle

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 02:47 (eight years ago)

it still sounds like slam poetry

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 02:48 (eight years ago)

Predates slam poetry by 2 decades so thats backwards

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:15 (eight years ago)

doctor robert is an insane choice, i'm sorry. it's dopey from a certain point of view but naming any of their mod-rocker tunes as 'worst' is ridic; it's so snappy and punchy and energetic and yet with some real lush detail put into it. i mean if you're going to pick some throwaway album track like that there are so many better picks.

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:18 (eight years ago)

So many suspect opinions in this thread. OG posters enthusiastically defending long and winding road for chrissakes.

Dr. Robert is great for the half-time middle right alone

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:31 (eight years ago)

"The Long and Winding Road" is great fuiud

heaven parker (anagram), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 07:49 (eight years ago)

yeah I think it's hammy and touching I'm all the right ways. I could see it being done really well by someone like Tom Waits or something.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 08:09 (eight years ago)

*in, not I'm

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 08:09 (eight years ago)

i didnt realise i was posting here to be attacked!

dr robert, right, listen now- it sounds shit.

it has a shit sound.

there may be technical or literary reasons that this is ok for you.

its not ok for me.

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 10:47 (eight years ago)

They did so many shit songs it's hard to know where to start

― Tom D., Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:38 (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 11:36 (eight years ago)

I am much more of a Beatles fan than you are, but I appreciate your approach.

How I Wrote Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 13:17 (eight years ago)

Pretty much anything off of With the Beatles...

octobeard, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:42 (eight years ago)

I hate that early stuff most of all - with some notable exceptions, even I'm prepared to admit they could write a good song or two.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:45 (eight years ago)

someone should start talking about how terrible yoko was (followed by 40 people defending yoko) to make this 2016 internet beatles opinion discussion complete.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:55 (eight years ago)

or maybe just start a thread called *what's the big deal with the beatles? - also why do people even like pet sounds? - also yoko sucks!* and just let this year die the fiery death it deserves.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:57 (eight years ago)

Not sure what you're expecting to read in a thread called worst beatles songs?

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:59 (eight years ago)

at least 50% of their tunes

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:06 (eight years ago)

no attack really! just goofing around, though it does seem so weird that "doctor robert" would jump out as bad/worst in their catalog. would never even occur to me to put it in the bottom third, to be honest.

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:30 (eight years ago)

right thats it im starting yr ban thread

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:33 (eight years ago)

my stock answer to this is always Get Back. it's not what i think is the actual worst beatles song, but it gets played on the radio so completely out of proportion to what it deserves. i also really hate paul's voice on it.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:33 (eight years ago)

"Not sure what you're expecting to read in a thread called worst beatles songs?"

maybe something other than boring and typical internet beatles opinion. but this thread does had a long and proud 16 year history of boring and typical. i expect better from you people! make beatles hate new. that's my motto.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:34 (eight years ago)

get back is kinda toothless for a "let's rock again!" song. and i hate Paul's habit of giving his characters really dumb names like 'Jojo' (though I love Ob La Di Ob La Da, fwiw).

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:36 (eight years ago)

what could possibly make for an exciting opinion on the Beatles at this point? .... "strawberry fields is shit"?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:37 (eight years ago)

the section of side 2 of the White album that goes Piggies/Rocky Raccoon/Don't Pass Me By/Why Don't We Do It in the Road? is pretty hard going. I've come around to the idea that Don't Pass Me By is actually good and quite charming when listened to outside of that context, other three are irredeemable though, couldn't pick between them for the worst, the full horrible effect is more than the sum of its parts

soref, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:38 (eight years ago)

i dig Don't Pass Me By, and i love that Ringo had been trying to get that on a Beatles album since he joined the band

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:41 (eight years ago)

make beatles hate new.

I doubt this is possible.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:41 (eight years ago)

"strawberry fields is shit"

see, that's the boring stuff i'm talking about. not exciting at all. there is soooo much beatles fan-trolling on the internet. it's a thing. being anti-beatles is very au courant. which is fine. it's a reaction against countless reissues and rock god worship and holy writs and all that. i get it. i think it's even healthy for young people to deny thy beatle dad and all that. but it's still boring. but honest and well-written critiques about WHY strawberry fields is shit are always a good thing to me. those i would read.

but i take it all back. i don't know why i would expect more from you guys. it's just a fun shit thread. it's all good.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:45 (eight years ago)

make something that people have been doing for decades new

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:45 (eight years ago)

i have reviewed a complete list of their catalog and i think i can say from a long life on beatles threads and such that these are the only legitimate choices for "worst song." you can post that one of these is the worst song and i will nod approvingly while also recognizing it as a boring opinion. if you pick a different beatles song, that is sort of interesting, but also sort of just challopsing and you are under obligation to provide minimum 200 words making your case, more if the song is some two-minute background album track that nobody ever notices and that you never even have to hear if you don't want to. doing this offers the slim possibility that it will be a good, non-boring post given the constraints of a worst song thread about a very good band where nearly all the songs are pretty good. your other option is to identify previously-unrecognized or particularly well-worded and cutting reasons why these are so bad and hated. fwiw i love most of those at some level and i have probably slightly underrepresented mccartney though i tried to include all his twee granny songs.

"12-Bar Original"
"Act Naturally"
"All Together Now"
"All You Need Is Love"
"Ask Me Why"
"Baby, You're a Rich Man"
"The Ballad of John and Yoko"
"Carnival of Light"
"Christmas Time (Is Here Again)"
"The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill"
"Dig a Pony"
"Dig It"
"Drive My Car"
"Flying"
"Free as a Bird"
"Hello, Goodbye"
"Honey Don't"
"Honey Pie"
"I Me Mine"
"If You've Got Trouble"
"I've Got a Feeling"
"Lady Madonna"
"Little Child"
"Let It Be"
"Mr. Moonlight"
"Nowhere Man"
"Piggies"
"P.S. I Love You"
"Real Love"
"Revolution 1"
"Rocky Raccoon"
"Run for Your Life"
"A Taste of Honey"
"Tell Me What You See"
"The Long and Winding Road"
"Wait"
"What Goes On"
"When I Get Home"
"When I'm Sixty-Four"
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
"Why Don't We Do It in the Road?"
"Wild Honey Pie"
"The Word"
"You Can't Do That"
"Your Mother Should Know"

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:57 (eight years ago)

I like quite a few of those tracks!

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:58 (eight years ago)

you've heard Carnival of Light?? do tell!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:59 (eight years ago)

i like nearly all of those tracks! some quite well! just yknow, trying to separate out the canon of 'bad beatles songs' from novelty challops picks or w/e so we can get down to brass tacks

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:00 (eight years ago)

do people dislike The Word?

soref, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:00 (eight years ago)

as far as Rubber Soul songs go, The Word is fine. i had never listened to the record all the way thru until 4 years ago, and i was shocked by the petty misogyny running throughout a lot of it. also it sounded remarkably staid/not the huge leap forward it's always talked about as. i've always loved Revolver and idk why it took so long for me to get around to Rubber Soul but it's p crap besides Girl, Norwegian Wood, and I'm Looking Through You.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:06 (eight years ago)

i dislike the word

if you focus on the harmony that they use when they sing "the WOOOOOOOORD", and how it's repeated, and how bad it is, and how it appears over and over again, it is a contender for the very worst beatles song

dr casino i notice Get Back is missing from that list, and i don't understand why it's not included.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:07 (eight years ago)

that is a legitimate oversight, it should be there.

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:15 (eight years ago)

thank you. not saying it really is the worst, but when applying the overexposure formula,

overexposure = (1/songQuality) * radioPopularity

get back is off the charts

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:20 (eight years ago)

(I usually skip "Doctor Robert" too. I like the middle eight, though.)

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:27 (eight years ago)

make beatles hate new.

Ringo should have been burned as a warlock for being left-handed!

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:37 (eight years ago)


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