― Dave, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― JM, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
What? Was the limp-pop direction of his first (& only) solo joint failing him so much that he's reverting back to his Badmotorfinger / Louder than Love uber-aggression stance?
It's a shame - both Superunknown & Down on the Upside had some good tunes on them. And, yes, that's TUNES. I'm partial to those two albums, but that's not to slight Badmotorfinger at all. Their stuff preceeding that is catch-as-catch-can - especially Ultramega OK, which only lives up to the latter half of its title. (I know Maura would vehemently disagree, though. Or, at the very least, respectfully refute.)
Personally, I think Soundgarden was better @ going "pop" than being "grunge". If you want Sabbath-esque guitar leads & thud-thud- thud, all you need is the Melvins. All you should want is the Melvins. All there is is the Melvins, really. (Granted, King Buzzo can't wail like a Mecha-Christina (post-testosterone shots, mind you), but SG's excessive use of that schtick didn't do Chris any favors.)
By the way - despite my developed aversion for all things Classic & Rock, I'd have to say that Led Zeppelin III and IV are nearly unassailable. Lumping the Zep in with the Doors is a damn shame.
― David Raposa, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Mike Hanley, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Kris, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Best and most effective damn dump on Zac I've ever read. Yow!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
After that, classic. After I was out of high school and I went through various phases of elitism, I sort of forgot how classic. But I remembered eventually.
All of the last three albums are worth listening to, as albums, though if your tastes lean toward songwriting and "hard rock" rather than metal you'd probably prefer Down on the Upside and, moreso, Superunknown. But Badmotorfinger is a motherfucker.
Aside from that, late-career singles to search (I am very much counting on Maura to pop up and recommend early ones):
Badmotorfinger: Rusty Cage, Outshined, New Damage
Superunknown: Fell On Black Days, Mailman, Limo Wreck, The Day I Tried To Live, 4th of July
Down on the Upside: uh, I don't know most of these songs by name, and I don't have my CD with me, but the two singles (Blow Up the Outside World and Burden in My Hand) are good too. "Never the Machine Forever", maybe?
As a matter of fact, their a-sides record would be an excellent purchase if you want some Soundgarden but don't think you want a whole album.
― Josh Kortbein, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― keith, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Soundgarden just couldn't top their masterwork, and "Down On The Upside" had some naff moments. Fortunately for us, their recorded output was capped off by the sublime "Boot Camp."
― Jack Redelfs, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 7 December 2002 00:42 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Michael Bourke, Saturday, 7 December 2002 01:45 (twenty-two years ago) link
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 7 December 2002 15:12 (twenty-two years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 7 December 2002 16:33 (twenty-two years ago) link
But one thing I was taken with was during the bridge or somewhere in the middle of all the riffage in the middle is this pretty direct lift of a couple Jesus Christ Superstar themes which I never picked up on in 1992 for one reason or another... despite picking the very same themes up in Pegboy and Afghan Whigs records from the same year. Anyone else catch that?
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link
In any case, Soundgarden -- in their day (now many, many, many moons ago) -- were fucking **MASSIVE** , and a QUADRILLION LIGHT YEARS OF BROAD SWEEPING VAST DISTANCES better than their snivelling little pals in Nirvana. First saw them at L'Amour in Brooklyn (with Voi Vod and Faith No More) circa Louder Than Love and they blasted a new part in my hair. Great, great, great band .
big fans of Killing Joke, by the way.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link
Soundgarden had their moments.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link
I don't really see much of a point of comparison with Soundgarden and Nirvana anyway, other than they were both guitar rock bands from Seattle....Soundgarden has way more in common with the bands that Myonga just cited than Nirvana....
Also, I REALLY REALLY REALLY WISH I WOULD HAD BEEN AT THAT SHOW....christ what a lineup! I need to listen to some Voivod.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
And yes, the show in question was godlike. Voi Vod had recently released Nothingface and FNM were promoting The Real Thing. And this was at a shitty, tiny little club. I was wearing a Dread Zeppelin shirt at the time, and Matt Cameron -- seemingly on his way out of the men's room during Voi Vod's set -- says "that's some funny, fucked up shit!". Yay.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link
i had erased dread zeppelin from my memory until i read that. yikes! boy i bet that wouldn't seem as funny if i heard it now...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link
― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:05 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago) link
I like 'em both just fine.
― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link
Actually, honestly, I guess Soundgarden were better than I ever give 'em credit for. If I'd never read a single interview with or article about them, I'd like 'em more than I do. (But still not as much as Sabbath or Zep, from whom they borrowed plenty despite their nonsensical denials.)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link
alex in nyc is officially the biggest crybaby on ILX.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago) link
― piers (piers), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:43 (twenty years ago) link
How does merely stating a fact make me a crybaby?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:58 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
I've never heard anyone else make the comparison, but Soundgarden's songwriting remind me a lot of early Traffic- stuff like "Mr. Fantasy" and "Forty Thousand Headmen"- in the lyrics, the dynamics and in Cornell's singing.
― bendy (bendy), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I wonder if "My Wave" was meant as a Yes rip, because it reminds me of part of "Ritual"...
― Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyone know how much some of their rarer vinyl is worth? Such as:
Louder Than Live (yes, Live) on blue vinyl. Hands All Over promo single. Loud Love promo single. etc.
― Reatards Unite, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Try completed listings on ebay -
http://cgi.ebay.com/SOUNDGARDEN-Louder-Than-Live-promo-12-blue-wax-punk_W0QQitemZ370061040886QQihZ024QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem
63 on ebay, can buy it mint on musicstack for 70.
― svend, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks, but how do you search for ebay completed listings?
― Reatards Unite, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link
It is under advanced search, it requires you to sign in. If you don't have an account, google is pretty good for finding recent listings too.
― svend, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link
try http://www.popsike.com/ too
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=4873252359
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
The hell?:
The biggest highlight came when Morello introduced former Soundgarden members guitarist Kim Thayil, bassist Ben Shepard and drummer Matt Cameron. The three former bandmates took to the stage with none other than Tad Doyle, former frontman of TAD and current powerhouse singer for Brothers of the Sonic Cloth. He led the band through a three-song "Tadgarden" set that included a Soundgarden rarity and a classic.Doyle, who is good friends with the Soundgarden crew from their days as tour and labelmates on Sub Pop, sang a powerful rendition of "Nothing to Say" and delivered a scream-laden "Spoonman," which included Morello on rhythm guitar.It appeared as if a lot of the crowd, which was a mixture of old school grungers in their mid 30s to late 40s and younger Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave fans, didn't quite know what to make of Doyle.
Doyle, who is good friends with the Soundgarden crew from their days as tour and labelmates on Sub Pop, sang a powerful rendition of "Nothing to Say" and delivered a scream-laden "Spoonman," which included Morello on rhythm guitar.
It appeared as if a lot of the crowd, which was a mixture of old school grungers in their mid 30s to late 40s and younger Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave fans, didn't quite know what to make of Doyle.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
lol that sounds pretty great, though i guess you would have had to sit through a tom morello solo show to see it?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
haha yes... and here i am stuck with tix to see cornell ;_;
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Photos and more:
http://cherrycanoe.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/nothing-to-say/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
the 12 year old me just bust a nut
― straightola, Thursday, 26 March 2009 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link
badmotorfinger is nothing short of explosive when the right mood hits. strangely it makes for a truly nostalgic listen, most likely because it encapsulates the creative heights of an era that was so dominant and far-reaching in its exposure, but also so brittle and dependent on the energy and conviction levels of its principle players to survive.
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 26 March 2009 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link
The iPod in my head is playing 'Room a Thousand Years Wide' right now.
― MacDara, Thursday, 26 March 2009 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link
that's called your brain.
― I, Contrarian-Ass Mutha (some dude), Thursday, 26 March 2009 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Well I'm amused:
http://www.soundgardenworld.com/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 January 2010 07:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm going to remain optimistic until further notice.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 1 January 2010 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm pretty hyped for this though from recent material not sure if Chris' voice can still hit those big heights
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I really hope this is true!
― Wax Cat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link
If this is true, then I'm sold. Soundgarden was 'my band' when I was a 14-year-old really discovering music for the first time, and they were my gateway drug to so much amazing stuff it's unbelievable.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 1 January 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, January 1, 2010 6:31 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah, that's my one concern too. although i'm pretty sure they'd still put on a killer live show where i wouldn't notice much about his voice anyway. i wonder how extensive or long term this will be, considering that Matt Cameron still tours with Pearl Jam all the time.
lmao @ Cornell tweeting "Knights of the Soundtable ride again!""
― some dude, Friday, 1 January 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Yamamoto or Shepard?
― Sock Puppet Pizza Delivers To The Forest (Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate), Friday, 1 January 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm gonna take a wild guess that the bassist from the later and far more successful half of the band's career is the one involved in the reunion.
― some dude, Friday, 1 January 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Hiro's got his own reunion going on with Truly, last I read.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 2 January 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link
This could be awesome. I hope it is. They don't have to hang around for long...just do an awesome tour of awesome shows and let me relive my youth ONE last time. Fingers-crossed that Cornell can still get his scream on...
Frankly I'd just be jazzed to see Thayill back on stage again
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 2 January 2010 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm enough of a stan that i actually went to see The Traveling Chris Cornell Good Time Rock'n'Roll Revue last year and i was worried going in but The Voice was in good form. Whatever behind-the-scenes technical wizardry was required to pull that off, I'm sure it'll still be available in 2010.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 2 January 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link
my juvenile, factually-unsupported theory is he stopped screaming when he cut his hair. grow hair back = screaming returns. in my mind, it's that simple.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 2 January 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link
grow hair back = screaming returns.
I think they're coming back as a lounge act. A full album of Wayne Newton and Burt Bacharach covers.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 2 January 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link
They will be 10X better.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 2 January 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link
:|
...another year of overwrought acoustic "Imagine" and 'Billie Jean' covers. DO NOT WANT
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 2 January 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link
So what, less Soundgarden and more Sound Patio?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 2 January 2010 10:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess with this and Alice In Chains back in business, it is time to buy stock in flannel and ripped up jeans with the 20 year cycle coming right on time.
― earlnash, Saturday, 2 January 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved grunge (really Nirvana) at the time, but in terms of the 20-year retro cycle, I was hoping pop music would latch onto something else. I mean, don't nu-metal and screamo take the angst-fueled rage from grunge, anyway? (Unfortunately, they forgot the tunefulness and, for the most part, lack a legitimate basis for angst, but they seem to have the shouty-screamy part mastered).
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 2 January 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, don't nu-metal and screamo take the angst-fueled rage from grunge, anyway?
no offence daniel, but i have to say anyone who said this, i'd doubt whether they'd actually ever heard grunge, screamo or nu metal.
― mad people slept on this one (stevie), Saturday, 2 January 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
indeed haha
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 2 January 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i'd doubt whether they'd actually ever heard grunge, screamo or nu metal.
I heard a lot of grunge in my 20s. I've stayed away, for the most part, from nu-metal and screamo. I'm open to learning or being disabused of wrong ideas, tho! What am I missing?
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 2 January 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Every single time a grunge band reunites or tours or has a new album or a high profile reissue for the past 10 years there's been a bunch of goofy "grunge is back/we're cycling back to grunge already" grumbling. Did people go "it's the British invasion all over again!" when the Stones released albums in the '80s?
― some dude, Saturday, 2 January 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
The Stones didn't really go away (like Pearl Jam I guess), but I remember theere "return to the psychedelic 60s" in the reviews for Steel Wheels around that tune Continental Drift. There was more of a ton of nostalgia being pushed on stuff like The Doors, Beatles and Hendrix. Around that time the Dead's concert crowds really expanded. The mass popular music magazines like Rolling Stone and Spin both referenced back to that stuff all the time. Not that those artists have ever really not been popular since the late 60s, but I think that late 60s stuff did get a big boost in popularity around the 20 year cycle in the late 80s.
Grunge/alternative music is just one of the next things in the docket, as the last decade was all about getting into reviving new wave/early hip hop/post punk stuff.
I'm sure like Alice In Chains is doing now, Soundgarden (and Stone Temple Pilots) are going to rake in some cash playing shows if they play the gigs. All of those bands stopped touring pretty early, one for obvious reasons, so there is probably some pent up demand to see them live.
― earlnash, Sunday, 3 January 2010 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link
This is where we can be thankful for the Foo Fighters having been a huge act on their own, because otherwise I'd get the feeling there would have been some sort of 'reunion' by now.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 January 2010 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Coming soon, 3d Imax Nirvana reunion featuring Rock Band Cobain, broke Novoselic, and Dave "Probot" Grohl.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sure someone out there is probably going to try to put together a Cobain/Nirvana movie like this one, which is also an example of 60s nostalgia in the late 80s.
http://i.allstarpics.net/images/orig/6/p/6pirvrzu903868i9.jpg
― earlnash, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link
It'll be called "Rape Me".
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Perhaps we should all script it now so that WE can be the committee that ruins it before some other committee does.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:41 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, whatever ... I'm "sorta" psyched about this, as Soundgarden was a huge band for me -- I bought a used cassette of 'Ultramega OK' from Wazoo Records in Ann Arbor shortly after the album was released (they were mentioned in some article in Rolling Stone at the time about cool new college rock bands -- reviewer specifically mentioned that they sounded "like Led Zeppelin", so of course I was hooked.)
I saw them probably 10 times between '89 and '91.
I saw the Voivod/Soundgarden/Faith No More tour twice. I saw the Danzig/Soundgarden/Corrosion of Conformity tour twice. I saw the tour with Swervedriver, I saw them on Lollapalooza a couple times. Some other one-offs like the time they played Saint Andrews Hall with Big Chief opening up. Basically they were like my fave band, and they sounded so good with pot, which I was smoking a ton of in those days.
I randomly bumped into K1m Thay1l when I was in Seattle in November (I flew out to Seattle to see Them Crooked Vultures), what a thrill. Cool guy. Had fun drinking beer with him in Capital Hill.
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link
"I saw the Voivod/Soundgarden/Faith No More tour twice."
My biggest concert regret. I was 16 and the show was 21+. It nearly killed me.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link
when me and high school buddies went to the show in Kalamazoo, we totally stalked Snake. We watched him walk into a bookstore, and followed him in. He was in the science fiction. We walked up to him and told him what big Voivod fans we were. He shook my hand but looked uncomfortable. I feel bad about it now.
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 3 January 2010 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link
well, mostly, i don't think there's hells of much grunge in Nu Metal, tbh - maybe Alice In Chains and PJ are an influence on yer Creed, etc, but when i think of that genre i think of Limp Bizkit, of Korn, and the like, who all dealt in a particularly numb-nutted version of rap-rock. as for screamo, again, it seems to take influence more from hardcore, etc than grunge per se, though tbh the only screamo i really rate is the AWESOME blood brothers.
― mad people slept on this one (stevie), Sunday, 3 January 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, I definitely buy the Nu-Metal/Numb-Nutted Rap-Rock link. Meh. I'm happy to hear that these terrible genres trace few bloodlines back to grunge.
Hey, which of those two terrible genres is that terrible song from where the singer growls "I'm doin' the best I ever did/I'm doin' the best I can/Now GO AWAY!" The intent of this song must be to make the listner LOL.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link
for some reason that lyric is making me think of the wonderful Blondie song 'go away', which it most certainly is NOT, so i don't know!
― mad people slept on this one (stevie), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
that song is by Godsmack, who were named after an Alice In Chains song and are way more nu-grunge than nu-metal
― some dude, Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
RIGHT! That's the terrible band -- and terrible song -- I was thinking of.
Nu-grunge . . . phooey.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 January 2010 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link
daniel i don't know why youre so worried about nu-metal since we are talking about soundgarden who rule hard and always have.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 4 January 2010 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link
lol, not really worried; it was part of a tangent. But, now that you mention it, Soundgarden was my second favorite grunge act (far, far behind Nirvana).
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 January 2010 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link
well, mostly, i don't think there's hells of much grunge in Nu Metal
there's lots of grunge in nu metal. Korn's debut is basically Faith No More + Pantera/Machine Head/Early 90's Sepultura groove metal + grunge song dynamics
― hairylaser micropenis pavilion (latebloomer), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link
my first Soundgarden show was Big Day Out in Melbourne in 1994...also my first real 'concert' so I had no idea what I was in for got myself a primo spot right up the front & they opened with 'Searching With My Good Eye Closed'. As soon as the music started the crowd surge lifted me off my feet and I wound up 20 people deep...scary at first but DAMN it was fun. Never forget that feeling of the bass and the guitar like piledrivers in my chest...my ears rang for days after and I was hooked.
Saw them again in 95 I think...also a great show but that first was my favorite.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 4 January 2010 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Strangely, I saw Nirvana twice on the Bleach tour, but I never saw Soundgarden. I only really like Screaming Life tbh.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 4 January 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I only really like Screaming Life tbh
That's what everyone says! It is great, though.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 4 January 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I know. I get teased often for (almost) always liking a band's first release best. In this case, nothing Soundgarden ever did afterward sounds remotely like Screaming Life though. It's a little gem.
And I was just way more into Nirvana, Tad, and Green River. Soundgarden were leading the way towards the side of grunge that was reaching up into the stars instead of down into the muck.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Screaming Life was the shit..."Little Joe" one of my alltime favorite SG songs. Soundgarden was probably my first introduction to something that sounded like metal but wasn't. You know that wasn't a hair band, and that wasn't Metallica. It was something else, and I was fascinated. I think I was maybe 14 or 15...a total eyeopener for smalltown me. I mean, I was all over Pearl Jam, but the early Soundgarden was something that felt more like it was mine, because not everyone liked it the first time they heard it. the banshee wail kind of pissed people off and that pleased the hell out of my teenaged self.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link
SOUNDGARDEN WILL BE ONE OF THE HEADLINERS AT THIS YEARS LOLLAPALOOZA FESTIVAL. WE HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL ON AUGUST 8TH AT GRANT PARK, CHICAGO ILLINOIS.BEN, CHRIS, KIM AND MATT
/street team
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 April 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Still not worth $200. Lady Gaga, The Strokes, Arcade Fire, and Green Day are the other headliners.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 April 2010 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link
If they're smart the opening song will be "Searching With My Good Eye Closed."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 April 2010 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Do people actually care about the Strokes still? Anywhere?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 April 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I would totally pay less than $20 to see the Strokes play in a small club.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 April 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Truth be known, Cornell's voice is so shot that he's using auto-tune for this show
― van smack, Monday, 5 April 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry to derail, but...
Is it just me, or are Ultramega OK and Die Kreuzen's October File basically the same album?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link
wish I was going to the "Nudedragons" show in Seattle tonight
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0F004486C4BD63A8?did=danger
― Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 April 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
+1 if I'd known i'da flown up for it
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i think chris cornell is one of the best hard rock vocalists of the 90s. too bad he is a douche.
― A piping hot bowl of shits (A piping hot bowl of grits), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty sure a list of the greatest hard rock vocalists of all time would be almost wall to wall douches.
― Ghetto Fastnbulbous (some dude), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
think it just was announced this afternoon, roger. else I'd have probably done the same
― Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 April 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I know! I'm not chastising you for late notice -- it's clearly meant for local fans -- I'm just sayin' ;-)
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 April 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/reunited-soundgarden-play-secret-seattle-show
Setlist:1. "Spoonman"2. "Gun"3. "Searching With My Good Eye Closed"4. "Rusty Cage"5. "Beyond The Wheel"6. "Flower"7. "Ugly Truth"8. "Fell On Black Days"9. "Hunted Down"10. "Nothing To Say"11. "Loud Love"12. "Blow Up The Outside World"13. "Pretty Noose"14. "Outshined"15. "Slaves And Bulldozers"
Encore:16. "Get On The Snake"17. "Big Dumb Sex"18. "Waiting For The Sun"
― van smack, Saturday, 17 April 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
ha they certainly are fans of anagramming aren't they?
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 17 April 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
That's a pretty good setlist
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 18 April 2010 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought that name sounded familiar... they played a secret warm-up gig before their Badmotorfinger tour 20 years ago under the name Vince Whirlwind and the Nude Dragons.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 18 April 2010 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty awesome that they played something from every album.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 18 April 2010 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow. are there any boots flying below the radar? I'm curious as to how his voice held up, cuz many of those songs are shriek-fests.
"Slaves and Bulldozers" though, omg...would love to hear that live!
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 18 April 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link
jeez .. that setlist kinda rules! so much 'Louder Than Love' stuff!! figgered they would just play the "hits" from their AOR era. but no "My Wave", "Day I Tried to Live", "Black Hole Sun" ... nuts! actually pretty psyched for the Lolla show now.
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 18 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZ2wg1ZBxc
I've been listening to Louder Than Love a lot lately. I think it holds up pretty well as a solid hard rock album. There's a definite Jimi Hendrix/Voodoo Child influence in Hands All Over (same in Even Flow, btw). I love the way the melody is there just to let Chris Cornell belt out long notes - the words are pretty irrelevant.
Hands all overrrrr!Dead composerrrrrr!Broke the toasterr!Hang stockbrokerrs!
― tonn nua (ecuador_with_a_c), Sunday, 18 April 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
LTL has always been my favorite album of theirs. I love the Terry Date production, it's very "roomy". when I came out I was a senior in high school and used to come home from school every day, hit up the one-hitter, and blast the thing in my room. good times
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 18 April 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
when "it" came out...
outed
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
um so Chris sounds OK....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceLsm8qsHMw
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
That sounds pretty f'n good!
― van smack, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I had to check and re- check that set list.No Blackhole Sun?
I was never a huge fan but *that* song is a keeper
Love the Die Kreuzen mention^^^^ Great band.One of the best HC albums (the s/t) ever followed by that gothemo October File. Classic
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sghQIma-2g
― van smack, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ihZNidf5h4
― van smack, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u09QeukRV2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BK3f3RSpgA
― van smack, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not crazy about the pre-Shepherd records so i was almost hoping that whenever they tour around here the set would be just the hits straight up, like similar to the set i saw them do at Lollapalooza a few months before breaking up, but yeah pretty cool that they went through the whole catalog and ignored their biggest hit. they'll probably be at least a little more crowd-pleasing on the festival circuit, though, i imagine.
― a hoy hoy young mess (some dude), Monday, 19 April 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link
aww....Cornell's voice sounds shot on "Spoonman" - as I feared, but was hopeful after the first youtube posting.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Monday, 19 April 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link
damn they sound great
― call all destroyer, Monday, 19 April 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
cg listen to nothing to say he sounds pretty good there all things considered
― call all destroyer, Monday, 19 April 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost I was just posting that he sounds a million times better on Nothing to Say.
all things considered I think I'd pay to see em. I never got to the first time around
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Monday, 19 April 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link
now if only they'd play Limo Wreck
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Monday, 19 April 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Good lord, this sentence.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 19 April 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link
soundgarden were never uber-aggressive either, always supremely graceful
― a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass" (stevie), Monday, 19 April 2010 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link
A passerby wearing tie-dye said to one person desperate for a ticket, "Good luck in life."
I <3 Soundgarden but you have to give it up for this zing
― A piping hot bra of tits (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 April 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i think its actually scientifically impossible to be zinged by someone wearing tie-dye tho
― a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass" (stevie), Monday, 19 April 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
― a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass" (stevie), Monday, April 19, 2010 5:56 AM (3 hours ago)
old big bad ass circle of power Comin To GETCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!111!!!11!!!
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but even that song breaks down to a slow sweet groove around 1:30
― a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass" (stevie), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Good god it's nice to hear Thayil again. I don't even care if Chris can't maintain the screaming anymore. Definitely psyched to see them.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
There's a supposedly decent rec gone up on D1M£AD0Z£N if anyone's interested.
― You Weaked It! (MaresNest), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah really if i go to a show it'll be to hear the band ROKK THE FUKK OUT, if the vox sound good it'll be a bonus
is there any word on how extensively they'll be touring and whether they'll be doing headlining gigs all over or mostly festivals?
― a hoy hoy young mess (some dude), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
The "limp-pop" thing was actually Cornell's second solo album. People keep forgetting the actually not terrible Euphoria Morning. I'd rather have had more in that direction than Audioslave tbh.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 April 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
god i hope they do more than fests--feelin too old for that bullshit.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 19 April 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I would love to see them, but not paying huge $$$$ to deal with the Lolla crowd in 100 degree August heat.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 April 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Timbaland Is Producing CHRIS CORNELL?!? How In God's Name Did I Miss This?
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 19 April 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
There are few things worse in this world than hearing Chris Cornell's pinched, straining scream further ruin a song that was already pretty shitty to begin with.
― soulless orange bimbo (res), Monday, 19 April 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't want to haul my ass to Chicago, definitely hoping for a few more shows. Cornell sounds a hell of a lot better than I thought he would in those youtube clips. and that set list...short of Little Joe, that's almost my perfect setlist. NO BLACK HOLE SUN!!! If I never heard that song again it would be too soon.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 19 April 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha! My first reaction to the setlist was "Aw, no litte joe!"
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 19 April 2010 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Keep in mind since this was a secret show, the setlist might be more 'obscure' than what they play at 'Palooza. could also be that Cornell hates Black Hole Sun too....
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Monday, 19 April 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Recording seems to be here, haven't downloaded it yet so I don't know what the quality's like.
http://theshadowkick.blogspot.com/2010/04/nudedragons-live-4-16-10.html
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 08:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I is be burning that on first opportunity.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
woohoo
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Part 1 of the file is already gone. Did anyone snag it and can link it?
― van smack, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link
damn.
all this love is making me wish i hadn't deleted scream the mixtape off my hard drive a few weeks ago.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3318/3547729051_38e0c09bda_o.jpg
not sure i ever listened to it all the way through - but for the artwork alone it was worthy of some love.
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Part 1 appears to be back up. I'm d/ling now, will report....
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Friday, 23 April 2010 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link
burned the bootleg, minus Searching With my Good Eye Closed, which is a corrupted file. will report back...
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yay some asshole in the audience is singing along so I can't hear Chris much on Rusty Cage...
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
so my impressions are I won't listen to this much but it's a neat lil souveneir, the band sounds great, like they haven't missed a step. Chris goes flat a bit vocally, but he sounds better than I expected. his shriek is more shrill than melodic nowadays, but he still hits some good ones. he has 'old man' sounding moments like he did on his "Carry On" album but even Fell On Black days he modifies the way he sings it to fit his current voice.
totally wanna see em now.
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
ok he sounsd awful on Slaves and Bulldozers :(
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
haha now i'm afraid to listen :S
― borntohula, Sunday, 25 April 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
it's interesting that they so heavily favored songs from the Badmotorfinger/Louder Than Love period where Cornell was probably screaming a bit a more than on the last 2 albums, maybe he felt like he had something to prove by singing those songs again.
― surmudgeon (some dude), Sunday, 25 April 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yea for sure. he did hit some real nice screams that show some of it is still there, but I can imagine he only had that stamina early in the show and had to result in turning the awesome "NOW I KNOW WHY YOU'VE BEEN TAKEN" shriek into a....polite tinny falsetto. It kind of....deflates the track :/. plus it's also hard when you're playing guitar at the same time.
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 25 April 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crILNt7-kj8
from the same show
― borntohula, Saturday, 1 May 2010 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K913KVe3kH8
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link
The aesthetic slide from shitkicking potheads covering Cheech&Chong/Spinal Tap into...whatever this[^]is...is why I bailed after Badmotorfinger. Somewhere along the way their tongues got too far into their cheeks and numbed up their critical faculties.
Anyway Kim Thayil kicks ass.
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
But the song is from the Badmotorfinger sessions...which explains why it's so badass. A+ for the Hawkwind video as well.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah, I thought it was new. And my impression was that it would have fit nicely as a filler track on Badmotorfinger or LTL. My other thought was, "Man I miss Thayil".
― bendy, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I know its a new Cornell vocal track, but is it a new recording of a song they wrote back then? Or is this a "cleaning up" of an older recording?
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
from wikipedia:
The song was recorded during sessions for Badmotorfinger and, according to Chris Cornell in an interview with USA Today, "Black Rain" captures "that super heavy version (of the band) we were finally realizing to its fullest potential about 1991." On September 17, 2010, a Music Video was released, directed by Brendon Small of Metalocalypse.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought the singing sounded totally like Badmoterfinger era Cornell!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
There's just no way he could sing like that these days.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I still would go see them for Kim tho'
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tkrMIGTStc
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 06:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Soundgarden to record a new album...http://www.spinner.ca/2011/02/16/soundgarden-new-album/
nooooooooooooooo
― borntohula, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I would completely and 100% endorse this.
That is, if time travel were an option and we could get pre-1994 Chris Cornell in to do vocals.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, could be ok. If we're talking about reunited alt rock bands from my youth I'd much rather it were Faith No More though.
― Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
^ yes!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's great they're recording again. I want to hear what great new riffs Kim has in store for us.
― van smack, Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, how bad can this really be? They sounded okay to me on their reunion gig.
― van smack, Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, seriously. obviously i'm going to be cautiously optimistic until i hear anything, but i feel like Soundgarden has as good or better a chance as any of their peers of making a good album today -- also it's not like Cornell would be doing anything better on his own and the other guys mostly haven't had very productive creative outlets in a while, maybe they could really use that collaborative spark again.
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
also i'm psyched for the live album they're releasing next month that was recorded in '96, saw them at Lollapalooza that year and it was a killer set
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno. cornell really hasn't been on his game since well... 1996. his first solo record was alright, though his lyrics have really taken a dive over the years into this weird superficiality i didn't think was possible. the fact that the other guys haven't been up to much either (aside from cameron) also makes me cautious.
i just hate when bands shit on their legacies. jane's addiction and smashing pumpkins have dragged their good names through the muck, and for what? their hearts might be in the right place, but there's nothing worse about a band that doesn't know when to call it quits.
there are probably better examples of this, but i think alice in chains have come probably the closest to releasing a record that is consistent with their older records. they toured for years prior to even stepping into a studio.
― borntohula, Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
with a new singer though! disgusting they still use the AIC name
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i disagree. cantrell was always the main songwriter in that band, and his vocals always had a strong presence on the older records as well. layne stayley was certainly a significant part, but not to the same extent as other lead singers in other bands. plus, the new singer's voice wasn't even very high in the mix on the new record. blasphemy or not, after almost ten years they were still able to make an "alice in chains" record without sounding like some sort of shitty parody or caricature.
― borntohula, Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i've made this argument on ILM before, but i think a lot of music fans invest far too much importance in breakups as a convenient narrative that tells them when the door is shut on a band making music or doing anything that matters to their legacy, far beyond simple cynicism about bands reuniting for money or whatever. if guys who made great music together once wanna take a break from that for a while, and then give it a try again, let 'em. if it sucks, i'll file that album away and keep listening to Superunknown, no skin off my back.
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I have never heard the new AIC and don't ever care to either. I wanna hear the new Soundgarden.
― van smack, Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm eating a tuna sandwich
― van smack, Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link
― tellysavalas (some dude), Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:52 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
true enough. i'm excited about the whole reunion, don't get me wrong, but just cautious because of how fast it seems to have happened. it's hard to not be worried about something i know and love, but you're right.
― borntohula, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess compared to AIC touring for 4 years before dropping a new album it's fast, but i feel like Soundgarden's been feeling this out pretty patiently and it seems like they didn't even start to give any indications of a new album until they took a while to try working on new songs and make sure they wanted to take the plunge, so hopefully they know what they're doing.
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm actually looking forward to the new Soundgarden studio disc. I like their first three albums (don't like Superunknown or Down On The Upside, though) and I like a lot of the first Audioslave album and a few songs on the ones after - I don't think Cornell's lost much vocal power at all, if any.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought the song they did on conan was pretty good too
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I think I'm looking forward more to this than the new Radiohead.
― van smack, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
― tellysavalas (some dude), Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:52 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is way otm especially as it becomes less and less possible to make a living from music--i tend to treat all "breakup news" as "plan on an extended 3-10 year break" now
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
new song:
http://www.kisw.com/pages/12721576.php
― borntohula, Thursday, 5 April 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
a little bland but not bad, Thayil ripping into one of those instantly identifiable solos is what makes it. the real test will be how much they let loose on the album tracks.
― ferrante's inferranteno (some dude), Thursday, 5 April 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
yeah. as this is a song made for a blockbuster film, i'm not going to be too hard on it. looking at that tracklisting, they sure are keeping interesting company...
― borntohula, Thursday, 5 April 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
well, it starts off sounding like soundgarden, before taking a detour into californication (bullshit), though i do like the halfway point it eventually settle into. and yeah, thayill is baddass for the last minute or so.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
that soundtrack list kind of makes me cringe.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
"kind of"
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
I think I'm going to wait for the album before I pass any kind of judgement. It's difficult to say how quickly they knocked this one together.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
we're all hoping they knocked that one together real quickly, aren't we?
― borntohula, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
It ain't no 'Loud Love' unf.
― calstars, Friday, 6 April 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
Soundgarden have a new album out next week?
http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2012/09/Soundgarden-King-Animal-608x608.jpg
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
listening to the first single "Been Away Too Long" as it sounds good, not great. or what others have said up-thread.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 06:20 (twelve years ago) link
I've heard a couple of tracks and I'm still not feeling it. Cornell's vox sound really ragged and weird.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 06:22 (twelve years ago) link
but Bee OK otm, its sounds good, just not great.
i think the full album is pretty great. its what the album after down on the upside would always have sounded like imho. good and psychedelic.
― Manchild in Beantown (stevie), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link
playing live on BBC 2 tonight - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nw95g
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
XP - Stevie, I noticed your review and was glad to see the word psychedelic, are there any tracks in the same ballpark as She Likes Surprises or Switch Opens?
― music of the squares (MaresNest), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:35 (twelve years ago) link
more a darker, heavier psych than 'she likes surprises', but lots of lovely complex, karmic kim thayil guitar stuffs. and cornell's in fine, fine voice.
― Manchild in Beantown (stevie), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
I'm liking this a lot more than I expected to, four tracks in anyway. Nothing to make me cringe like 'Live to Rise' so far.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Live To Rise is awful, and made me fear the worst.
― Manchild in Beantown (stevie), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
Listened to the whole thing on the train this morning. The only songs I remember after a single play-through are the first two (which have been streaming) and the last one. And the first two sound more like Chickenfoot songs than Soundgarden songs, mostly due to generic hard-rock riffage and Cornell's vocals having degenerated into a Sammy Hagar-ish gravelly howl. But later in the album, he seems to recover his range somewhat.
Weird trivia note: This is the first Soundgarden studio album not to have a band photo on the cover.
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
i could never figure out if the weird distorted face on the Superunknown cover was Cornell or not
― ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
"Non-State Actor" is the first leak from the new one that i've found encouraging at all. curious to see the writing credits, sounds like it could be a Ben Shepherd joint.
― ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
This is an unmemorable dud of a record. I know I shouldn't have expected anything else, but I had hopes. It's not a shamefully horrific album, but it is a blandly sad one.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
it's so strange because i don't know why they would do this and not go all in creatively. it's not like being the most accessible Soundgarden they could be means a fraction of what it did commercially in the '90s, they may as well play to the base.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
Tracks I've heard are slightly on the bland side. Better than AIC's comeback at least.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
AIC did better than anyone could've expected given the personnel handicap though!
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, despite Cantrell being the principal song writer it really proved how vital Layne was to the band.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
it's so strange because i don't know why they would do this and not go all in creatively.
Probably because they're doing it for the money, and their label wanted something that can play on the radio. They could play to the base, sure, but Soundgarden got forgotten pretty quickly and it seems like they were only rediscovered by doom metal dudes over the past few years. So some base. Their market today, as far as their record label bosses is concerned, is pretty much dad rock.
That's the position I'm taking, anyway, and it doesn't sound nearly as disappointing through that filter.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but a) nobody listens to rock radio and b) reunited SG would probably sell the same number of albums and concert tickets in 2012 with or without rock radio hits. "Live To Rise" was #4 on the rock charts and the official soundtrack single from the biggest blockbuster movie of the year, but that doesn't mean it really registers beyond (or even among) the band's fanbase in any meaningful way. reunited Alice and Stone Temple Pilots and "Sublime With Rome" had rock radio hits too. Soundgarden at least had enough of a creative legacy that they could've nurtured that among their fanbase. Superunknown was a pretty weird album to represent a band's commercial peak!
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think bands in Soundgarden's current position really get told what to do creatively by labels anyway. i imagine they made the album they wanted to make, or thought people wanted from them, without being forced or led by anyone.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
just to be clear, the album's much, much better than Live To Rise, even if it doesn't set you on fire.
― Manchild in Beantown (stevie), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i'm assuming that has to be the case. should really not post much here til the album drops anyway.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
a) nobody listens to rock radio
Nobody you know listens to rock radio. As someone who works for a hard rock/metal label, let me assure you that getting songs on the radio is a hugely important part of promoting a band.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
::long sigh:: listen i prob listen to rock radio more than 99% of the people on this board and realize it does have a more significant listenership than most of them would like to believe. i'm just saying, in the larger context of terrestrial radio and popular music as a whole, it matter so so so so much less to so fewer people than it did the last time Soundgarden made an album.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
especially for an established band like Soundgarden.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
the audience of all of atlanta's rock stations combined isnt as big as the audience for its single biggest hiphop station. my understanding is that's basically a nationwide trend
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah definitely
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
This is a subject for another thread, but I can't figure out hip-hop's business model.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I can't believe people pay money to hear that crap either.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsK/9460-19426.jpg
― Do You Like POLL Music? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
i like this record!
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
i mean half of it is the pleasure of hearing thayil, shepherd, and cameron play together on a new record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
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this is not true where i live, but minneapolis and atlanta are like opposites
anyway this record has some good playing on it! vox/lyrics mostly suck but yeah i'm digging hearing kim playing again....about as good as you could expect
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
This is all I really care about from a SG reunion.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
yes! hearing cameron/shepherd hold it down and thayil soar is something else. cornell isn't half-bad either. i've only listened to KA a couple of times so far, but nothing has really hit me as being jarringly bad yet. he's at least a lot less creepy than he was w/ timbaland, and not as sentimental/transparent as he was with audioslave. so that's something.
― borntohula, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
chris cornell is a horrible person
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
seeing them tonight. stoked.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
also finally bought the reissue of Superunknown (remaster isn't spectacular but lost my 18-year old version and wanted the bonus disc) but now on re-reading the lyrics to Mailman part of me wonders if it's about salad tossing o_O
― Neanderthal, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link
they were awesome in london earlier in the summer - played superunknown in its entirety (save Half, disappointingly).
― Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link
yeah my friend went last night and said it was Superunknown and BMF heavy, which is music to my ears.
if they play "Limo Wreck" and "Mailman" I will lose my shit. i've always dreamed of hearing those in a live setting. it's an outdoor show too so it won't be sound bouncing off walls and make me go deaf.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
so...great
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 04:56 (ten years ago) link
haha!
― Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 07:17 (ten years ago) link
cornell doesn't seem to have aged a day, does he?
Saw them here in September last year, what a set! They kicked off with 'Incessant Mace' and kept dipping deep in the catalogue even as they played most of the hits. They're not much of a stage presence, but hey. The one they didn't play was 'Black Hole Sun', and as I was leaving the moaning of punters around me was something else. I mean you paid €60 to see a band play one song? Feck off.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link
It's a shame though because he can actually sing that song live now, unlike back in the day!
― Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 09:35 (ten years ago) link
my only complaint (if it's even a complaint) is that they were a little 'hits' heavy. I woulda loved to hear "Mailman" or "Limo Wreck". but who gives a shit really?
this is the reason I love outdoor shows. hearing "Fell on Black Days" as the sun was setting = <3
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 12:26 (ten years ago) link
Saw them last week too. I was there mostly for NiN, but it was cool to see SG back together. Cornell was in great voice. I don't know how well-regarded the Down on the Upside era is, by them or the fans, but I was disappointed they skipped the entire album since the show was pretty much all hits anyway.
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 20:12 (ten years ago) link
he played "Burden in My Hand" and "Pretty Noose" last night, which surprised me given how static their setlist had been over the last few weeks. I was glad - don't love Upside, but I love those two songs, especially the latter.
I was quite surprised at how full-voiced he sounded on "Beneath the Wheel". No, it wasn't as powerful a wail as it was in the Ultramega O.K. days, and he had to strategically take breaths to get through it. But there was power behind that falsetto, rather than wispiness. For a guy that's pushing 50 that was technically a baritone anyway, to hit stratopheric notes like that is extremely impressive.
He did a helluva "Fell on Black Days" too!
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 20:25 (ten years ago) link
Those are exactly the two songs I would have liked to hear. Aw well. "Fell" was the highlight of the show for me too.
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link
Cornell won me over on the last reunion tour -- all I needed was to hear 'Like Suicide' live again and I was back to full fangirldom
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
Just bought Screaming Life/Fopp on vinyl and it is really incredible how these two EPs framed my entire way of listening to music. And I'm still hearing new things in both (and in "Ultramega OK," and "Louder Than Love," and "Badmotorfinger," and the Temple of the Dog album too)
― maura, Saturday, 27 December 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
uh also how did nobody let me know about the three disc set of b-sides and other rarities that came out last month
― maura, Sunday, 28 December 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
you're all fired
;_;
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 December 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
maura i had a tweet where i made fun of the title, that is pretty much the most helpful thing i could have done
― some dude, Sunday, 28 December 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link
i wuz gonna maura but i didn't wanna be that guy that posts shit to someone who would already know perfectly damn well about it so GUESS THIS ONE'S ALL ON YOU
anyway surprised if there's anything on it (except steve fisk apparently) you wouldn't have collected??
― j., Sunday, 28 December 2014 02:19 (ten years ago) link
i have most of the pre-'93 stuff but idk it's just nice to have it all in one place!
― maura, Sunday, 28 December 2014 04:48 (ten years ago) link
anyway fine you're all rehired
Nothing To Say is the best thing they ever did
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 28 December 2014 04:50 (ten years ago) link
ultramega ok is such a fucking tragedy :'(
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 December 2014 05:17 (ten years ago) link
^ said cuz "flower" and "beyond the wheel" really ought to hold their own with "nothing to say" (along with "hunted down", "hand of god", "hands all over", about half of badmotorfinger, etc). but for the production.
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 December 2014 05:32 (ten years ago) link
No one told me either, argghh!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 28 December 2014 09:47 (ten years ago) link
There are a bunch of covers on the comp.
― calstars, Sunday, 28 December 2014 13:38 (ten years ago) link
the covers are often great, the sabbath cover is better than the original. the first disk of rarities is often great. the third disk? i don't know who would ever want to listen to the third disk.
― Rallsballs@onelist.com (stevie), Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
I thought the covers were almost uniformly awful (particularly that Sabbath tune) though the version of Budgie's "Homicidal Suicidal" is pretty decent, the rarities I could take or leave, and yeah, the third disc is pretty much disposable.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
if by 'that sabbath tune' you mean their cover of into the void then O_o
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link
i love their into the void cover
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link
Really don't like it. Mainly because it's one of the best lyrics Sabbath ever wrote, and these clods had to fuck with it because the message wasn't heavy-handed enough for 'em.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
are you trying out for bill magill?
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 December 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
The 'Void' cover is exactly what you'd expect (except for some lyric changes). Original is better by virtue of Iommi's tone.
― calstars, Sunday, 28 December 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link
The third disc has 'Karaoke', which is a monster tune, better than anything else they did in the DOTUS era.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 29 December 2014 10:27 (ten years ago) link
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Just been reading that Kim and Jack Endino have gone in and completely remixed 'Ultramega OK' for release sometime this year, kinda jazzed about hearing a full blooded version of it.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
oooooooooooo
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Last night's setlist
SpoonmanKyle Petty, Son of Richard OutshinedBlack Hole SunMy WaveThe Day I Tried to LiveBeen Away Too LongBlow Up the Outside WorldAll Your LiesUgly TruthFlower Fell on Black DaysJesus Christ PoseRusty CageBeyond the Wheel
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 April 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link
Wow
― Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 April 2017 13:56 (seven years ago) link
Yea. Great set. A lot of people bolted when the big hits were out of the way
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 April 2017 13:57 (seven years ago) link
nice
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 April 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link
Can you be more specific about when they bolted?
― Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 April 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link
it was a really lame crowd. the 20k seat arena was maybe a third filled, the floor maybe 40% full, the rest of us in seats, and the intro for Soundgarden only got a meek "yay" from the crowd.
then they rolled off the biggie Superunknown songs and "Outshined" and everybody got briefly excited but once "Been Away Too Long" started, the exodus started slowly. I was surprised that "Blow Up the Outside World" didn't get more of a reaction, it was a fairly popular song when I was in high school. and then the Ultramega OK tunes was enough to thin the place out considerably.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 April 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
i always love when they end with Beyond the Wheel tho. that's a killer closer.
Wish I had been in one of those empty spaces.
― Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2017 11:11 (seven years ago) link
How was Cornell's voice during the show?
― van smack, Sunday, 30 April 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link
Too bad no "hands all over"
― calstars, Sunday, 30 April 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link
xpost he's never going to be the vocalist he was again, but he's getting a little of it back. tbh he's pretty good at the high notes when he stays up there a while (ie "Beyond the Wheel"), it's the flipping between head voice and chest that he struggles more with (but, tbh, that was true to a lesser degree even in his prime - always an inconsistent live singer).
His highs still have surprising potency even if he doesn't make them as dirty as he used to. His mid to low range actually sounds a lot closer to what it did in the 90s than it has in a while.
his yells sound more shrill than they used to, but he's doing them again which is cool. idk overall I was pleased. "Jesus Christ Pose" was kind of painful though. the verse at least - the rest of it he was pretty good.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 May 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link
cornell has sounded great the last few times i've seen him. he's a way more consistent live singer now afaict
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 1 May 2017 01:03 (seven years ago) link
he does avoid the highs on Outshined a bit tho. which is weird cos he doesn't play guitar on that one.
"Spoonman" he was actually screaming again, surprisingly.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 May 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link
apparently their show yesterday was same setlist, except no "Ugly Truth" and instead of "All Your Lies" was "Incessant Mace"
they're appraently on right now in Ft Myers. I should be working but I'll be watching setlist.fm to see what the nerds add in real time.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 May 2017 01:14 (seven years ago) link
I should know their later albums better than I do, but I got off the boat after Superunknown.
― calstars, Monday, 1 May 2017 01:29 (seven years ago) link
down on the upside is underrated imo
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 1 May 2017 03:15 (seven years ago) link
i've been listening to "Zero Chance" a lot given my moodiness recently.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 May 2017 03:17 (seven years ago) link
my fav solo song of his
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6GlbuBKu1o
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 May 2017 03:22 (seven years ago) link
This. Which Matt is drumming with them at the moment, Cameron or Chamberlain? Much as I loved Pearl Jam I always feel bad that SG sometimes have to tour without Matt Cameron as he's such a distinctive and inventive drummer.
Was watching some old footage of SG doing Jesus Christ Pose on YouTube a while back - Ben Shepherd was playing like a motherfucker, flayling and hurling himself around and not seeming to miss a note
― Impartial Father (stevie), Monday, 1 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link
I always enjoyed Shepherd's slightly psychedelic leanings and 'Switch Opens' is a lovely example and a good reason to revisit DOTUS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfdQ-u0nUmU
― MaresNest, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link
"Head Down" is my favorite Sheperd penned track
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 May 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
Chris is one of my all-time favorite vocalists. That Euphoria Morning video was nice.
I'm waiting to hear the Singles soundtrack reissue and see what the unheard tracks are like.
― van smack, Monday, 1 May 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link
he was sounding kinda rough a while back, there was some throat surgery stuff in there somewhere that I think put him at a disadvantage for a while, but ever since the Soundgarden reunion shows I think he's just been going from strength to strength vocally. The Temple of the Dog show I saw at the end of last year was jaw dropping for how right-on his voice was. I mean, he can't get ALL the way up there like he used to but jesus, he's getting 90% of the way there which is awesome to see
I've forgiven him for Billy Jean and have finally moved on from those dark times lol
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 May 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link
Uh wtf
http://abc7.com/entertainment/rocker-chris-cornell-dies-at-52-rep-says/2006846/
― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 07:46 (seven years ago) link
no no no no no nooooo
― Spottie, Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:03 (seven years ago) link
wow that is a bummer RIP
― Neil S, Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:08 (seven years ago) link
fuck WHAT
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:14 (seven years ago) link
unreal that all of these dudes are gone. Cornell, Weiland, Staley, Cobain.
― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:20 (seven years ago) link
don't forget andrew wood
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:23 (seven years ago) link
fuck i wouldn't be anywhere near here probably without soundgarden cracking open my mental door between metal and "modern" rock (1990, you know)
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:24 (seven years ago) link
Gutted, what a voice. I remember someone on ILX saying he was a better singer than Robert Plant, and I think they might have been right. Will play Superunknown loud this morning.
― chap, Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:38 (seven years ago) link
Oh man RIP.
Soundgarden was never my thing but there was never any denying Cornell's talent and presence.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:43 (seven years ago) link
well this sucks :(
― Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:44 (seven years ago) link
wow this is unexpected. RIP.
― sexualing healing (crüt), Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:56 (seven years ago) link
this fucking sucks so hard
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:57 (seven years ago) link
so so so so fucking sad. and not that this is why its tragic, but there was a new SG album coming too, I heard.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 09:14 (seven years ago) link
this hurts
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 May 2017 09:19 (seven years ago) link
This fucking sucks
― MaresNest, Thursday, 18 May 2017 09:20 (seven years ago) link
Listened to this 10 times in a row already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xeFx4WG0CA
― MaresNest, Thursday, 18 May 2017 09:21 (seven years ago) link
can't get my head around this at all
― del esdichado (NickB), Thursday, 18 May 2017 09:23 (seven years ago) link
this is so sad, RIP. we saw him in brisbane about 18 months ago and he was great.
― estela, Thursday, 18 May 2017 09:37 (seven years ago) link
@stevie http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7760610/chris-cornell-the-promise-soundgarden-album
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 09:47 (seven years ago) link
i keep thinking of how life affirming the temple of the dog show was
so they were on tour at the moment and they'd played a show last night?
― del esdichado (NickB), Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:21 (seven years ago) link
You were the first person I thought of, Maura. Damn.
"Mind Riot" was always the song I randomly defaulted to in my memory when I thought of them and him. Probably going to be doing so in general all day today.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:21 (seven years ago) link
Well...shit.
― A Billionaire Dinosaur Forced Me Gay (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:26 (seven years ago) link
Have any details about the cause of his death emerged? Cause even though this was a long time ago it's kinda alarming (taken from that Billboard interview just upthread)
"I remember years ago, we were doing Badmotorfinger, and I saw some drama on the Holocaust with Willem Defoe as a boxer [Triumph of the Spirit]. I watched it late at night, and I woke up the next morning and we were flying from Sausalito back to Seattle. I got a migraine so bad that I had to be hospitalized. The blood vessels had expanded so much in my brain that I couldn’t really talk. I could see that this was blue [points to a bottle], but I couldn’t remember the word that was the symbol for the color blue. It was a scary thing and I’ve never had that since, but it’s stuck with me that there’s some part of me that has a hard time with that on some level that’s way more intense than I would have expected."
― MaresNest, Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:33 (seven years ago) link
And yeah, realizing ALL those frontmen are gone from the era and place, all of whom were legit huge breakouts or on the verge of becoming one, is crazy to think about. (Saw them all live too aside from Wood.) Vender is the only one left, and when you think about how he started there precisely because Wood died -- I mean, I'd feel pretty damn weird if I were in his shoes.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:34 (seven years ago) link
Found in the bathroom, a band around his neck.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:41 (seven years ago) link
thanks, i can think of 10000 better ways of phrasing that
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:45 (seven years ago) link
Quoting the police directly. You're welcome.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:46 (seven years ago) link
Damn! Quick story.. In a matter of a week I saw him in LA, played blackjack at the same table in Vegas for a couple hours and then saw him at a bar in NYC. He remembered me, bought a round and we talked for a bit. He was a super nice and humble guy. Rip bro
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:47 (seven years ago) link
I can't believe this. I just saw him at a phenomenal Soundgarden show like three weeks ago. He seemed full of life and in good spirits. He sounded great and seemed generally locked in, not going through the motions at all.
nobody ever outshined you, bro. RIP.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:49 (seven years ago) link
goddamn this sucks so much. Euphoria Morning was one of the first CDs I bought with my own money, weirdly
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:50 (seven years ago) link
I was just thinking of "Seeking a Friend for the End of the World"
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:53 (seven years ago) link
So so sad about this
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:01 (seven years ago) link
I'll have to get off and stop Googling now, the last song they did yesterday was the extended version of Slaves & Bulldozers and he slipped in some lyrics from 'In My Time Of Dying' apparently, so sad.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:03 (seven years ago) link
aw what the hell
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:14 (seven years ago) link
lanegan and arm are still around but yeah.
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:16 (seven years ago) link
Ah shit. Awful news. I'd lost touch with what he'd been up to and didn't realise he'd struggled so badly with depression. It's taking too many. RIP.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:16 (seven years ago) link
I saw Shawn Smith on Saturday night and thought then about how many of that era had gone (particularly the constellation that surrounded Andrew Wood).
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:17 (seven years ago) link
Louder than Love was one of my most played tapes in high school. Even had the t shirt. Dude was a monster and will be missed.
― calstars, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:20 (seven years ago) link
He was on such great form the last two times I saw SG.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:23 (seven years ago) link
I even loved a fair bit of King Animal.
Listening to Fresh Tendrils and the "Throw yourself away" refrain is giving me serious chills.
― chap, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:33 (seven years ago) link
wow, stunnedordered louder than love from Columbia House and really fell in love with it, saw them open for GnR on the Use Your Illusion tourbut yeah as Maura said they def along with Jane's probably deserve as much if not more credit than Nirvana kicking off alternative and bringing that to metal kids in the cornfields
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:38 (seven years ago) link
RIP
― The Pickety 33⅓ Policeman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:39 (seven years ago) link
WFT? I can't believe this. He was a genuinely nice guy, great singer. Always struck me as one of the 90s grunge folks who seemed the most together. I'm stunned.
― Moodles, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:43 (seven years ago) link
Holy shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:43 (seven years ago) link
i always loved this song from the LOUDEST LOVE ep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJ3pgdEHy4
this b-side to 'flower' was good too, very eerie and weird (it's from the SCREAMING LIFE sessions)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuiJPtE4a4
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 11:44 (seven years ago) link
Amazing that Lanegan is outliving them all. First grunge show I saw was in 1989, Mudhoney with Soundgarden in support. Good times.
― Position Position, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:05 (seven years ago) link
I saw Soundgarden co-headlining with Voivod, with Prong as the opener. Cornell walked on our shoulders and hands.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:08 (seven years ago) link
Damn, I haven't really listened to them in years but those 90s albums were my shit when I was 16-17.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:13 (seven years ago) link
Never mentioned it on this thread, but I bought the remix/remaster of Ultramega OK when it came out earlier this year and holy shit, it's amazing. If you haven't heard it, buy it.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:25 (seven years ago) link
xxxpost Not the same scene, but I was just thinking about how amazing it is that Reznor outlasted all of these guys.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link
Years back I wrote up the three times I saw SG in 1992 for a blog series I was doing -- good memories all
https://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/not-just-the-ticket-29-soundgarden-january-29-1992/
https://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/not-just-the-ticket-43-soundgarden-april-25-1992/
https://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2010/08/02/not-just-the-ticket-58-lollapalooza-92-sept-12-1992/
Favorite by default was the first time, but they were all fantastic.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:32 (seven years ago) link
Really gutted about this, Superunknown is one of my favourite rock albums. R.I.P.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:34 (seven years ago) link
I can't... he should have been making music for a long long time.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:34 (seven years ago) link
This sucks.
Superunknown was a monster of a record. I remember listening to it the day it came out and just being bowled over by its power. I wish rock records still sounded that good.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link
I cannot understate the totemic importance that Badmotorfinger had upon my adolescent life. It's probably only second to Physical Graffiti in the number of times I've replayed it.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:48 (seven years ago) link
To my mind it's still very weird and random -- in a good way -- how Soundgarden ended up on A&M in 1989. I mean, nobody could have predicted exactly what was to come, and all labels by default are chasing cash as much as A&R dreams, but that was such a strange outlier for the time in terms of anything major label, in terms of the cover aesthetic, the actual content of the songs on Louder Than Love, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:53 (seven years ago) link
I play Soundgarden on my iPod more than most bands. They are my go-to "I am so tired I need some ear-aching raaaargh to get me through the commute to/from work". They never don't thrill me.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:55 (seven years ago) link
Can't believe this news. Saw SG for the first time only a few years ago with Nine Inch Nails - both bands killed it. NIN I wasn't surprised put on a good show, but Soundgarden was way better than I expected. RIP
― Vinnie, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:09 (seven years ago) link
Man, I just put on Badmotorfinger when I got home last night; this feels so eerie. That album and Superunknown are so classic for me.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:15 (seven years ago) link
I would say along with Jane's, Faith No More, Living Colour, they were an incredibly important band for us suburban weirdos in that sliver of time just before Nirvana up turned the entire apple cart...I road my bike to the store the day that "Badmotorfinger" came out, I couldn't wait for that record and I loved it.
I can't say I've listened in a long a time but they were such a huge band to me. RIP.
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:17 (seven years ago) link
Listening to them this morning, and so much of it now sounds like an obvious cry for help (a la Nirvana and Alice in Chains).
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:19 (seven years ago) link
listening to the day i tried to live and pretty noose for like the millionth time. i will always be amazed at how he turned those riffs into killer radio-friendly rock songs.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link
Shocking sad news.
First time I saw them I remember I was on crutches, at Pearl St. in Northampton 1989 and then a bunch of times in the next few years. A bud and I kind of snuck onto their bus (!) at a show somewhere in NJ and were scowled at by temp-bassist Jason Everman, but C. Cornell was friendly and welcoming.
At an impressionable age Cornell and co. relieved me of some stupid art/punk hangups I had about the music I most love—Led Zeppelin in particular—and in this regard for a brief shining moment were punker than punk.
― Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link
suicide is the worst, i feel so powerless whenever i hear someone took their own life. no one should ever be compelled to do so.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link
And he has a kid, too. The pain Chris must have been in, to push him to kill himself even though he'd be leaving his son behind, is just unimaginable to me.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link
Has said cause been confirmed?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link
Every time I hear of something like this it renews my terror of depression (which I've had minor brushes with), that it can make someone ostensibly so successful and fulfilled do that to themself.
― chap, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link
cornell had three kids :(
― Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link
xpost yes—"band on the neck" does not nec. mean suicide. Sources on this?
― Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link
xps I've seen it in a few sources - The Mirror, in the UK - but nowhere, I guess, 'official'
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link
The reports I've seen - incl NYT and Independent - say that it is being investigated as an apparent suicide but not more than that.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link
I'm sorry i jumped to a conclusion.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I think that's the reason for the odd language of the police report -- it's very likely to have been a suicide, but band and family didn't see it coming, so there will be careful investigation.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link
Cornell i think caught a bit more flak than deserved sometimes bc of his vocal style, especially in recent years. i mean i wasn't familiar enough w/his work post-soundgarden to say anything about it, but Badmotorfinger/Superunknown are all-time classics. and Temple of the Dog was probably the album that hit home the hardest for me. And it does now with this news. like i said upthread i mean it's just ridiculous that this whole slew of charismatic frontmen are gone for reasons that are all too common.
― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link
just heard your spot on 5live stevie.
v. nice sir.
― mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link
Say Hello 2 Heaven is a wonderful song, and the alt versions on the TOTD reissue from last year are really fantastic.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link
xp haha did i say "fuck"? i was trying so hard not to say "fuck"
didn't hear it all, had to leave the kitchen.no swearing during the part i heard.
― mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link
totally stunned and bereft right now
been texting with mr veg & another friend, we're all just like wtf
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:35 (seven years ago) link
cried all the way to work :(
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link
fucking weird as shit, i had a dream about Soundgarden two nights ago.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link
I was playing basmotorfinger really. fucking. loud. on the commute to work this morning. Mind Riot slayed me.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, as mentioned, that song's always been my favorite and learning whatever we're learning about this, those lyrics start taking on even sharper edges. It's less about any sort of 'prediction,' more a real capturing of a mindset.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link
listening to down on the upside, which i think i secretly like better than superunknown
he was def the last rock god, now so many bands try so hard to be that but he just was that
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link
It's less about any sort of 'prediction,' more a real capturing of a mindset.
I think it's also pretty explicitly about Andy Wood, too.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link
Weirdly, their cover of Spinal Tap's "Big Bottom" was the first time I'd heard of Tap, so I'm grateful to them for that introduction. Did they ever return to doing silly stuff like that? I get the impression it all got a lot more serious from Badmotorfinger on, but I was off the bus by then.
― Position Position, Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link
chris cornell was a rock god bc he had that voice and just easily slipped into the role. definitely the best rock star to come out of the Seattle scene imo. the other guy who comes to mind when I think of him unfortunately is Michael Hutchence, just a similarly huge figure who owned his role but apparently had something building inside him for so long.
― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link
i didn't really know a lot about black sabbath (solo ozzy was sort of hogging the spotlight then) and their cover of 'into the void (sealth),' fnm's 'war pigs' and (sorry) ugly kid joe's 'sweet leaf' were my primer
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link
still prefer soundgarden's Into The Void and Faith No More's War Pigs over the originals. Using Chief Sealth's speech on INto The Void was an inspired move.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link
"Only the lyrics of 'New Damage', which are about how the American people have become unbelievably complacent about the way that the US government is eroding more and more basic human rights, could be described as particularly direct." - Cornell quoted in Melody Maker, 1991
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link
maura otm - soundgarden was my gateway into Sabbath in high school
i love that Into The Void cover
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
The wreck is coming down / Get out, before you drown.
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link
my first exposure to him was the first Audioslave record, loved it, never got into Soundgarden but i'll echo what many have said here that he always seemed like the most grounded and kind-hearted of the Gen X frontmen. So brutal knowing he had three teenage kids. RIP
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
That first Audioslave record is really good. The ones after that were...not.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link
too old to have been ripe for becoming a fan, what little i know of them was from that Hype! documentary.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
actually, i don't mind the audioslave albums.they're nothing special, but they are mighty good rock albums, helped out by the vocals of course,and sometimes that's all you need.
― mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link
pretty bummed about this! when i was 12 my buddy made me a mixtape with a few soundgarden songs on it, and i played the hell out of it while playing resident evil. i also had the guitar tablature book for superunkown around the same time. i sang "hunger strike" to (more at) my wife the night we met because she told me she lived in the pacific northwest. bummed i didn't go down to seattle to see the temple of the dog tour or soundgarden in recent years, as i considered it pretty strongly but logistically it wasn't going to work out for me.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link
I guess it's looking more on the level now
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2017/05/18/chris-cornell-death-detroit/
The detail that will haunt me is that his wife called one of the bandmembers -- doesn't say which one -- asking him to check on Cornell, and that he and hotel security had to break into the room.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link
heart-wrenching
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link
Fuck that is so horrible.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
i can almost guarantee that the three albums i listened to more than any others from 1994 were In Utero, Dirt, and Superunknown. it is ridiculous that all of those singers are dead now, wrong and ridiculous.
― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
yeah. totally.that's a phone call you never want to have to make.
xpost.
― mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link
So apparently during a lengthy version of "Slaves & Bulldozers" to close their show he sang the refrain from Zep's "In My Time of Dying?" Jesus.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link
.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
i'm reminded of a couple shitty reviews for Audioslave's first, very very good album:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/356-audioslave/
https://web.archive.org/web/20100201130917/http://stylusmagazine.com/reviews/audioslave/audioslave.htm
i don't think Audioslave was nearly the band Soundgarden was, but after awhile of being a bit agnostic i really appreciated their virtuosity even at their weakest.
― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link
― nomar, Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:23 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― Spottie, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link
just remembered, at the time of the release of his first solo album, my promo groove was on the way out, so happened to be well chuffed/baffled, when i got this promo only career overview release :
https://www.discogs.com/Chris-Cornell-The-Roads-We-Choose-A-Retrospective/release/5680836
― mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
I was never keen on Audioslave but this track is mighty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDMvN45sjo4
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link
i really really love this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC5FdFlUcl0
― mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link
yeah "cochise" is like a bomb going off. regardless audioslave always seemed to me like cornell being let down by the limitations of the players/arrangements surrounding him (i'm not extending this theory to the solo albums i haven't heard)
there's a great moment in the spin superunknown oral history where cornell describes how he felt when ben shepherd brought "head down" to the band, he's like, "this must be what being in the beatles was like." i love that. soundgarden were unparalleled
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
i never really had a thing for Soundgarden but I moved from the twin cities to Seattle in spring 1990 after the way had been blazed for me by my best friend at the time; after i got there I remember meeting Ben Shepherd at this insane dilapidated shared house on bainbridge island where my friend and his gf were living with a bunch of other freaks. Shepherd was just then joining SG iirc?-- And my friend introduced me to him and I laughed out loud because my friend and shepherd were dead ringers for each other. My friend and I weren't 21 yet and I guess he had borrowed shepherd's driver's license a few times without a hitch because they resembled each other so strongly. My friend and his gf had already both become junkies since moving to seattle but i didn't realize that for a few more weeks. at least half the people living in that bainbridge island house became junkies. one of them died a year or so later, another become a piece of shit scumbag, etc. seattle and heroin is such a cliche but it's hard to overstate how saturated in junk seattle was, you could just feel something wrong in the very air. At least anywhere even the slightest bit connected to music -- thank god i made friends in the comic book scene soon enough. anyway, flash forward to about 2010 and my friend who had seemingly made it out of the vortex and was back in the midwest with a wife and baby son and career helping kids suddenly hung himself with a belt behind a locked door. I have this feeling like the darkness was already there (BOB?) and the region was like this perfect cup for the junk to be poured into but idk. Anyway so much of that music is death music to me, it really was coming from a wellspring of horror in a lot of cases. Sorry for this prose poem but reading about how cornell was found and how unexpected it was really made me think of my friend who did that to himself and that seattle feeling.
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
Damn. Sorry about your friend, first of all. But that's a very vivid portrait of something on so many levels.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link
yeah, death music is a good way to put it. often feels like there's no way out when listening to Cobain, Weiland, Staley, et al.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link
sidebar: the Spin superunknown oral history brad referenced is a great read if anyone is interested
http://www.spin.com/2014/06/oral-history-soundgarden-superunknown-anniversary-reissue/
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link
yeah jon otm, sad as it is to admit
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link
not sure if this has been posted yet, but man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUDRU9-HRk&feature=share
― Darin, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link
https://youtu.be/IuUDRU9-HRk
― Darin, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link
Listening to BMF for the first time in years
These guys were musically so far ahead of all their contemporaries it's ridiculous, but without verging into guitar mag Tool territory & with Cornell who was a big enough voice and presence to actually stand on top of the mountains they were building
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link
yeah
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link
All that and pop hooks as such! Amazing, really.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
Just saw a post from Slicing Up Eyeballs on FB reminding me that today is also the 37th anniversary of Ian Curtis' passing.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
this is really rough you guys
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link
yeah Ned good point they did have it all, even with doing tricky time signatures and odd tunings and super abrasive elements and huge riffs they managed to make it all so catchy and appealing
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
often feels like there's no way out when listening to Cobain, Weiland, Staley, et al.
one of the reasons I never really feel inclined to (re) listen to this stuff
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
melvins is the survive-without-escaping version, somehow
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link
Arguably it's because they escaped to SF that they're still here. (Which is oversimplifying heavily, but that's kinda how I view it. They knew they had to leave.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link
idk Soundgarden never sounded quite on the same level of bleak to me
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link
And I'm not saying the Melvins didn't have their problems -- I passed one of their many bassists once years back clearly on a heroin nod sitting outside -- but the core duo just seems to have taken a different mindset to things. But this is getting off topic rapidly on my part...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
i suppose it is OT but still OTM
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:29 (seven years ago) link
Arguably it was more hiding in plain sight? I mean...Cornell *looked* great and was always undeniably there, 'present' in the moment. That kind of presence and image can, well, I don't want to say cover up a lot, but.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:29 (seven years ago) link
they just always struck me as having a bit more self awareness of essentially being a classic rock band idk
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
A friend from my freshman year in college was a huge music nerd from Seattle and after returning from a trip home he brought back this warbly tape of 4-track demos from Cornell that was such a massive departure from Soundgarden at the time (Louder Than Love, Flower & the Screaming Life/Fopp reissue)... it was way more in line sonically with The Winding Sheet or what would become the blues/gospel songs off Temple of the Dog, but with lucid imaginative lyrics, experimental song structures and crazy guitar tunings played on his acoustic.
The only song I recognized coming to fruition from that tape was "Seasons" which showed up on the Singles OST. I'd love to hear those spooky, warbly demos again if any old school Seattle folks know what I'm talking about.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
that could be the tape he made in character for SINGLES, which is coming out as part of its deluxe reissue tomorrow
― maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link
Almost a decade ago, my wife and I hired a car to take us to the airport. The driver had just driven Cornell a few days prior, and said he was one of the most genuinely friendly people he'd had in his car, including everyone. I still remember his exact words: "Just a real gentle soul."
Rest in peace, man.
― TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link
Cornell *looked* great and was always undeniably there, 'present' in the moment. That kind of presence and image can, well, I don't want to say cover up a lot, but.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:29 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Think that's another reason he reminds me more of Hutchence now. 😞
― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link
i've been listening to them pretty much constantly again ever since the reissue campaign got going, they were as big a part of my teenage years as any kid back then but it took until my thirties to realize just what cornell had put into those superunknown songs.
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― j., Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link
who will be the first to claim that the timbaland album is underrated?
― veronica moser, Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
me
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
well, not underrated per se, but i've always enjoyed how strange and tasteless it is
I'm gutted by this. What a tragedy. If only he hadn't been alone, I keep thinking.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link
Review of last night's show. Not sure if it gets the right balance, but I don't know what IS the right balance.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2017/05/18/chris-cornells-final-performance-something-clearly-wasnt-right/101842384/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link
That said that last paragraph...oof.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link
(And I don't mean in a good way.)
yeah don't watch that stuff
― j., Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link
I watched a couple songs from the first night of the tour and a couple songs from last night -- the difference in energy level and voice are startling
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
I forgot how great "Say Hello 2 Heaven" sounds.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRbSFprzSaA&spfreload=10
― Darin, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link
i dont know if I can handle Temple of The Dog yet. i cried my eyes out at the live show in December when he was alive & singing, god knows I'd be a mess now
i am really struggling with this. i mean bowie & prince broke me but this is like my immediate musical circle, it's just too fucking real & i hate it
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link
VG : hugs. xx
― mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
ty <3
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
aw
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
yep god almighty do NOT watch clips from last night's Detroit show, just don't do it to yrself
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link
thanks for the warning- I don't want to remember him in some fucked up way. goddamn I can't overstate how much I love that band. truly sad
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link
i tried to do a top 10, so far i'm at 25 lol
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link
I've always thought pre-major label Soundgarden was a bit hit-and-miss. I think they got better once they signed to a major...but I'm listening to "Screaming Life" right now and it is knocking it out of the park right now. Proper grunge biznizz
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link
played through superunknown making dinner. i've never been one to play their records all the way through and i don't know why, they were really really good.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:51 (seven years ago) link
it's funny, i was so diehard about soundgarden that i fucking HATED superunknown when it came out
i hated all the dudes at college that suddenly were airdrumming to spoonman and i hated black hole sun on the radio endlesssly & i hated chris's haircut & the album was so new & polished sounding i liked 4th of july & fell on black days but man thst album was a real sore point for me for a while until i grew out of it
so dumb
now i listen to it & it is so good all the way through, just so much going on musically & lyrically! fucking huge achievement
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:58 (seven years ago) link
lol i'm younger than you but there was a ubiquity to superunknown even for me so i can totally see pushing back on those songs.
and then tonight i'm like the spoonman riff is up there with any jimmy page riff ever.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 00:04 (seven years ago) link
Superunknown is great.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 00:05 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I was way into Badmotorfinger and then Superunknown was their "sellout"' record for me where they "lost their edge". Of course that's silly in retrospect, it's a fine record.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 19 May 2017 00:56 (seven years ago) link
There are some really good songs on Superunknown but I have always hated "Black Hole Sun." Not since it got popular, but since the first time I heard it. It's slow and boring, it's got that lacy-cuffs psychedelic thing going on that I hate...it's just not a good song, to my ear. But "My Wave" still kills, and a bunch of other stuff, too. Like basically every album from 1996, it's too long, of course.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:05 (seven years ago) link
I couldn't quite get over "Spoonman" to a degree -- I kept imagining Sammy Davis Jr. doing a riff on his "Candy Man," even more Vegas, though ("The shpoonman, he's got the shpoons!"). So I ended up more appreciating them for Superunknown where I had played Badmotorfinger into the ground, and I never quite returned to that same level in general with his work. Different sonic interests and so forth. Remarkable album nonetheless -- I remember it and The Downward Spiral came out the same day and charted 1-2 as a result. For a moment there things seemed aligned with my vision of the universe.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:15 (seven years ago) link
A very nice touch
The Space Needle will go dark from 9-10pm tonight in remembrance of @chriscornell. RIP. #noonesingslikeyouanymore https://t.co/D0XmOhTbkp— Space Needle (@space_needle) May 18, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link
I couldn't quite get over "Spoonman" to a degree
OTM. That song is dreadful, I never even bothered to listen to the album.
https://genius.com/Soundgarden-spoonman-lyrics
But I loved every release up that one, saw them a half-dozen times.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:29 (seven years ago) link
My Wave and Fell On Black Days are perfect meshings of sound, melody, arrangement, and singer.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link
Wtf "spoonman" is awesome
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:47 (seven years ago) link
Lately I've been waking up early in the morning and putting on NPR to help me doze back off, so I was only half-awake when I heard about his death and now its fact is trapped between concrete reality and a hazy half-memory. It just doesn't square to me.
I may be the only person who thinks Ultramega OK is their best album, but their singles are all-time, and he was a brilliant songwriter.
― Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:56 (seven years ago) link
i learned about this b/c my wife audibly gasped looking at her phone at about 7 a.m. while we were waking up. first thought was something happened at her job, second thought was something happened to trump.
this news was unwelcome, to say the least.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link
Michael B OTM. 7/4 riff is inspired.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link
Musically I have no problem with the song! But still.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 02:01 (seven years ago) link
I don't know what the lyrics are about, really, but I didn't think that was a concern for you.:)
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:03 (seven years ago) link
Genuinely curious about the cavils!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:04 (seven years ago) link
I may be the only person who thinks Ultramega OK is their best album
The remastered version gives you a much stronger case.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link
nah I still have a block with that song
I did only just realize how Zeppelin-y Big Dumb Sex is with that big old fat riff, which makes the song even funnier
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link
Is it just me or did he look very handsome on the "like a stone" video? That said I was never much of a fan of Soundgarden or Audioslave and I hated his Bond song in Casino Royale but I really respected him and liked him as a person... saw several interviews and fan videos of him instage joking with the audience and to my surprise he was not an asshole at all. I feel like most rockers from the late 80s early 90s were very unpleasant people.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link
Not Cornell tho... so he was a talented guy, humble and charismatic and pretty good looking. A keeper all around... real shame he wasn't happy with his life, seemed like he had it all.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:32 (seven years ago) link
My modest obit
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:34 (seven years ago) link
Spoonman is about heroin right
― sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:34 (seven years ago) link
the only thing you got wrong is that cornell was the only credited writer the majority of those songs. respect to thayil but if you believe the band chris came in with many of those twisty riffs mostly formed.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 02:36 (seven years ago) link
Oh I believe it.
I love Michael Beinhorn's pedigree -- Material's keyboardist producing this band!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:38 (seven years ago) link
xxxpost Moka, fyi Chris Cornell looked handsome in every waking moment of his adult life
dude was hot af
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:39 (seven years ago) link
fuckin hot
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:42 (seven years ago) link
remember in the mid 00's when he was suddenly super-tanned? even then
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:44 (seven years ago) link
be still my ovaries
https://68.media.tumblr.com/7095b8a000a9bd1a822ac07703b231eb/tumblr_olcb9vuudJ1w4tfzvo1_400.gif
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link
lolol
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:46 (seven years ago) link
I think I've written about this previously on ILM, but back in the mid 90s I was in a band that briefly was being courted by a record label in southern California. The head of the label was pals with Chris Cornell and arranged for him to come down and hang out with us. We went out to dinner with Cornell and the label folks and then later hung out with him at his hotel room, mostly drinking beers, shooting the shit, goofing around. For some reason, we ended up watching Barbarella, which happened to be on the hotel tv. Anyway, Cornell was very nice to us, he was a chill, down-to-earth guy. We were of course very star struck. This was shortly after Superunknown came out, so pretty much the height of his career. There was really no reason why he should have to hang out with me and my band friends, but he was perfectly friendly and patient with us, and gave us some good advice about the record biz. I appreciated the fact that he was the one person we were interacting with that didn't come across like he was trying to sucker us in one way or another. He just seemed to really have his shit together and to be enjoying life.
One thing I remember is that in the record label guy's office there was a Christmas photo of Chris Cornell and his wife both in big garish Christmas sweaters with big smiles, very cute. It was nice to know he didn't take himself too seriously and could just be happy and silly, despite the heavy rocker image.
― Moodles, Friday, 19 May 2017 02:49 (seven years ago) link
wow that's awesome
he has always seemed very thoughtful. and i love his super dry sarcasm, he has a pretty killer sense of humor like a lot of guys from that scene
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:53 (seven years ago) link
possibly the best gif ever, at least for my needs
https://68.media.tumblr.com/ad84d8f2408c29edd533be0ab7e85d3a/tumblr_o4bifeOogB1scx7dho1_400.gif
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:54 (seven years ago) link
xps to crut, fwiw
Cornell on "Spoonman"
It's more about the paradox of who (Artis) is and what people perceive him as. He's a street musician, but when he's playing on the street, he is given a value and judged completely wrong by someone else. They think he's a street person, or he's doing this because he can't hold down a regular job. They put him a few pegs down on the social ladder because of how they perceive someone who dresses differently. The lyrics express the sentiment that I much more easily identify with someone like Artis than I would watch him play.[6]
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:54 (seven years ago) link
speaking of Beinhorn, this bullshit was still floating around int he '90s:
Jack Endino: I’m not a big fan of the production. It’s okay. It’s kind of noisy now when I listen to it. The production captures a feel, which I think is good, but it’s an odd-sounding record if you listen to it with technical ears
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I really like him with the tan and the shorter hair.. its how I first saw how he looked like I think.
Moodles story confirms my suspicion that he was a really cool guy to be around and not a pretentious asshole like others in the scene.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:01 (seven years ago) link
lol 'my needs'
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link
i don't think it's controversial to say that beinhorn's production was a little stilted, tho i think it mostly works
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link
I can't hear how it's stilted.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:04 (seven years ago) link
it is a bit odd-sounding, it sounded weird to my ears when it came out. Sounds great now.
― Moodles, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:04 (seven years ago) link
I think superuknown is the gold standard for 90s big budget rock production
― Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:05 (seven years ago) link
"Material keyboardist producing grunge band" is my idea of a fantastic idea.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link
the drums in particular are very loud and crunchy, almost distorted, guitars a bit de-emphasized from where they were on Badmotorfinger. It's unusual, but I like it.
― Moodles, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link
xxpost yes mookie my needs
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:07 (seven years ago) link
<3
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:15 (seven years ago) link
jeezus Down on the Upside was 1996? It feels so much later in my head.
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:17 (seven years ago) link
I remember when that came out it felt like there was already this subtle shift in the wind. Hard to put a finger on but I kinda wasn't surprised that was the last album (for a while), but it wasn't just them, more like a collective 'hmm...now what?' (Sadly, that ended up being the dregs of third-wave ska and nu-metal...)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:44 (seven years ago) link
And swing. Don't forget the swing!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:48 (seven years ago) link
yeah ned otm - it was a weird period for a few years there
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:48 (seven years ago) link
i just called it high school
― j., Friday, 19 May 2017 04:06 (seven years ago) link
Michael Beinhorn is the producer in the infamous Hole drummer story btw, despite having been in material he seems to have been the epitome of the interventionist label producer
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 May 2017 04:06 (seven years ago) link
lol xp
― Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2017 04:08 (seven years ago) link
I remember when that came out it felt like there was already this subtle shift in the wind. Hard to put a finger on but I kinda wasn't surprised that was the last album (for a while), but it wasn't just them, more like a collective 'hmm...now what?' (Sadly, that ended up being the dregs of third-wave ska and nu-metal...)― Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I imagine the Pumpkins losing Jimmy and Jonathan dying that summer cast a pall over it all, a year later all of the leading voices of the early 90s were dead, inactive, or broken up (except Pearl Jam).
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 May 2017 04:28 (seven years ago) link
for pumpkins fans, maybe. idk that that really registered much w me anyway, pall-wise
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 04:37 (seven years ago) link
i know i'm headed for the bottommmmmmm
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2017 05:01 (seven years ago) link
Been working on another tribute thing and finding I Awake to be really REALLY difficult to listen to this morning
― pickety third (stevie), Friday, 19 May 2017 09:21 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, Mailman is pretty underrated, basically a Queens of the Stone Age template.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:37 (seven years ago) link
Every single song on Superunknown is really good and really distinct. A tremendous feat for a fifteen track album.
― chap, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:48 (seven years ago) link
Goodbye little brother. You're folded in now I'll carry you inside me. Thank you bless you pic.twitter.com/YhkDHATS8t— Alain Johannes (@AlainJohannes) May 19, 2017
― how's life, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:50 (seven years ago) link
That's nice. Not to derail, but decades ago friends from LA used to tell me stories about what a talent Alain Johannes was.
― The Pickety 33⅓ Policeman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 May 2017 11:08 (seven years ago) link
Agreed the new Ultramega Ok remaster is great
Speaking of Down on the Upside I was stuck yesterday at how good it is, it's really not much of a drop-off at all.... Though... One of it's best songs is not ruined but takes on a lot now :(
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2017 11:18 (seven years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUQNq5FjkT1/
Shot of audioslave getting some air
― calstars, Friday, 19 May 2017 11:32 (seven years ago) link
The second half of Down On The Upside drags a bit (or more to the point there's a big sag in the middle) but the opening seven tracks or so are so great that I'll forgive a lot of what comes afterwards.
― Matt DC, Friday, 19 May 2017 11:37 (seven years ago) link
"Ty Cobb" and "Blow Up the Outside World" is a hell of a one two punch. Going to spin King Animal later today since I didn't spend enough time with it when it came out.
― DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 19 May 2017 12:00 (seven years ago) link
I realize "4th of July" was about a Cornell acid trip but its lyrics are so vague even they seem extra sad to me now.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2017 12:18 (seven years ago) link
Bones Of Birds off King Animal is such a fantastic song, about how you can't protect your kids from losing their innocence
― pickety third (stevie), Friday, 19 May 2017 12:28 (seven years ago) link
Down On The Upside is one of the prototypical "too long" albums. If it was 45 minutes it would be considered a classic.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link
"Non-State Actor" on King Animal is such a "Soundgarden song title", I'm not really able to fully articulate this thought but they had very distinctive song title aesthetics
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:11 (seven years ago) link
everything on down on the upside is great but the pacing is terrible. sort of the opposite of superunknown, which is 70 minutes long but every song seems to build on the previous in this really captivating way
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link
I would def listen to a brad-sequenced DOtU
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:17 (seven years ago) link
yeah brad u should do that on spotify...
also I had a !!!!! moment when I listened to Louder Than Love....the origin of the James Hetfields "Ye-AH!" OMG at the beginning of "Gun"
srsly though this def sounds like a template of sorts for Black Album and 90s Metallica...I haven't heard them address Soundgarden iirc but Soundgarden def was the grunge band that got respek on their name in metal circles
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKSBK-aUKp4
Friends and I saw them on the Upside tour and it definitely felt deflated, like the band had lost some of its will, in contrast to two years earlier when we saw them with NIN at the height of their fame. I wasn't surprised when they disbanded shortly afterward.
As someone who loved Soundgarden in high school but didn't pay much attention to the lyrics aside from the odd cool-sounding phrase or image, it's terribly sad to read through them now in light of the illness he was obviously struggling with his whole life.
― dinnerboat, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link
tbh i have no idea how i would resequence down on the upside, feel like the band did the best they could with the material
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link
Incredibly true. They managed an insanely great trick of song titles that weren't entirely po-faced or straightforward, but weren't 'funny' either. More like this captivating blunt wryness that seemed to float in its own zone.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/73603-soundgardens-chris-cornells-family-questions-cause-of-death/
from familial experience Ativan can be a motherfucker of a drug
― pickety third (stevie), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
it's such a weird set of songs
xxp
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
Maura did the man justice, of course.
http://pitchfork.com/features/afterword/10080-why-soundgardens-chris-cornell-was-more-than-just-a-grunge-frontman/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:44 (seven years ago) link
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, May 19, 2017 8:18 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i used this song for a high school english project as an example of poetry in music. i think i said it was about the apocalypse or something
― Heez, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link
i also used a lyric from "limo wreck" as my senior quote lol
― Heez, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link
it does feel apocalyptic, doesn't it.
I love Limo Wreck
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:53 (seven years ago) link
"Non-State Actor" on King Animal is such a "Soundgarden song title", I'm not really able to fully articulate this thought but they had very distinctive song title aestheticsIncredibly true. They managed an insanely great trick of song titles that weren't entirely po-faced or straightforward, but weren't 'funny' either. More like this captivating blunt wryness that seemed to float in its own zone.
Yeah IMO they have the best song titles. Loud love! Slaves and bulldozers! Breaking the wheel! A room a thousand years wide! Jesus Christ pose! Omg so cool.
― Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link
i know i've said this on multiple soundgarden threads but.... man, king animal is very good
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
that could be the tape he made in character for SINGLES, which is coming out as part of its deluxe reissue tomorrow― maura, Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:41 PM (yesterday)
― maura, Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:41 PM (yesterday)
I just listened to the tracks from that but I think those sound a little more polished and full formed, the songs I remember were more rough, rustic and witchy... more songs in the vein of "Seasons" than "Spoonman".
That said, I couldn't find the Poncier version of "Seasons" but I could find every other Poncier song on the 'tube.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ok. while reading the oral history i wasn't sure who to give the benefit of the doubt to, now i know it certainly wasn't this prick
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link
yeah beinhorn is a major piece of shit though he's semi-responsible for two of my favorite rock productions of the '90s (superunknown and celebrity skin, superunknown obv was the band in contention with beinhorn where celebrity skin is a way sadder story)
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link
this is my current fav jam from king animal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfQ_yBmOupg
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
also i've been listening to cornell's obligatory beatlesesque song from that record and uh crying a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxYCQJW89Wc
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link
Beinhorn's other major 90s accomplishment -- Marilyn Manson's best album, Mechanical Animals.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link
oh yep ^^^^
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link
Maybe this is all going to be obvious, but revisiting Badmotorfinger for the first time in a while I'm struck by how much of a bluesy riff rock/early metal record it is at bottom, with what seems like a lot of influence from Sabbath, Zeppelin, Motörhead, Priest. That and also just what a fucking weird and great song Rusty Cage is musically.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 19 May 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link
Really liked Maura's piece, but I'm curious why it skips over Audioslave completely.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link
i only had so much time alas
― maura, Friday, 19 May 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link
that's for when tom morello dies
― j., Friday, 19 May 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link
Re man alive's comment: the thing about that (and the band, but taking Badmotorfinger as its own example) is that it simultaneously is and isn't as you describe. Which is part of why it resonates and works. I forget which edition of the Trouser Press guide said this about Soundgarden but per your point they said they called back to that protometal era of 'shirtless men singing about shirtless women.' But the whole point was that they didn't do that, at least not as some sort of raison d'etre -- and while they avoided Zep-style pseudohistorical narratives, they weren't Sabbath's bummer fantasies either. It was more like one foot in the 'real' world, one foot elsewhere, with everything refracted, kaleidoscopic. Per Jon's story above, it was like capturing something miasmic, in the air. It could be focused when needed, it could be overtly funny, but even so. And musically it took all you described and twisted it in knots -- compressed, encircled, but just as thorny as the lyrics could be. They could and did go big and slow but always felt like they were a Titan tied down, intentionally, as an aesthetic point. It was music for stomping all around the world, but caught in unavoidable and inevitable frustration, not triumph. "Rusty Cage" may be the great outlier -- it starts an album with escape and release but it ends with "New Damage," where you have to get out for much bigger reasons, and you might not be able to.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
Is there any other massive early 90s rock record with as much going on rhythmically as Spoonman? I just listened again and it's astonishing how much it works into a big, anthemic, MTV-friendly rock song. And it's doubly astonishing that I didn't really notice all that at the time.
― Matt DC, Friday, 19 May 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-pkDd5epgk
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 May 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link
had a lovely surprise this morning. put on Euphoria Morning to listen to on the drive to work and got an immediate, vivid flashback as Cant Change Me started
In 1999 i travelled to the US & met Mr Veg for the first time. We took a road trip to SF, Santa Cruz, LA and Vegas & I had completely forgotten til now that Euphoria Morning was one of the cds in the changer!
We must have spun it a lot on that trip because it was all i could think of the whole time I was listening to it.... visions of our various stops & the landscapes rushing by and all our dumb injokes from that trip
It was such a happy memory, felt like a great bonus putting this album on expecting to cry a lot and instead smiling happily & singing along
It's such a beautiful album, I def am going to try to keep it in the rotation for a while.
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
i slept on Cornell's solo career completely. I should probably pick up Euphoria Morning. How's Higher Truth?
― nomar, Friday, 19 May 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
I just learned that he rereleased Euphoria Morning in 2015, retitling it Euphoria Mourning.
Euphoria Morning was recently re-released on vinyl, but you’ve changed the title to what you’d originally intended it to be – Euphoria Mourning. How did it come to be spelt differently on the original release?It was a pretty dark album lyrically and pretty depressing, and I was going through a really difficult time in my life – my band wasn’t together anymore, my marriage was falling apart and I was dealing with it by drinking way too much, and that has its own problems, particularly with depression. So I titled the album Euphoria Mourning, but right before the record came out and I was doing interviews over the radio for example, if you say “Euphoria Mourning”, the listener doesn’t know if it’s mourning with a “u” or morning without a “u”. And that started to bother me. So I had a conversation with my manager at the time, and said I really love the title but do you think it’s confusing? And he suggested that Euphoria Morning would probably be a better title. I thought, in contrast to the lyrics maybe that works. And it wasn’t my manager’s fault, I was a grown man and could say I don’t think that’s a good idea, and in the back of my mind I didn’t think it was a good idea. But mentally I wasn’t together enough to really know what was right. So I went with “Morning”, and it’s bothered me ever since. It even showed up in an early review where someone reviewing the record said that the title sounded like a potpourri scent, and when I read that I was just like [with disdain], “Fuck! Fuckin’ bullshit!” The title was so beautifully poetic to begin with, just the concept of euphoria in mourning; it was a moment I felt inspired and I let all the air out of it. So when we decided to do its first vinyl release I thought, I want to change the fuckin’ title! [Laughs] It’s time to change it.
― how's life, Friday, 19 May 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link
Did Cornell and David Tibet do something together at one point? I have it in my head that they did but google did not turn up anything
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 May 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link
Burying Artis in the mix on Spoonman was dumb.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 19 May 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Been incredibly busy for the last couple of days so only just heard about this. Absolutely shocked. RIP.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 19 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
xxp you're thinking of andrew wk?
― new noise, Friday, 19 May 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
it just gets more & more grim
http://www.spin.com/2017/05/chris-cornell-police-report-death-details/
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 19:34 (seven years ago) link
This is my one criticism.
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Friday, 19 May 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link
just over an hour ago i got the tip off : i am neighbour free all weekend.now, i aint a full on audiophile freak, but my midrange floorstanders can make a noise that is rather glorious when given the chance.and yeah, i know it's not the choice of heroes, but the first audioslave album is sounding insanely good at the moment.i will of course do the soundgarden groove at some point.however, despite the backing band, the vocals .. well, i don't need to say anymore.
― mark e, Friday, 19 May 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link
crank it! :D
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
Euphoria mourning though
― calstars, Friday, 19 May 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link
thats the one ive been re-visiting the most since the news.
― Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link
The verb I mean. Or is it still a noun
― c (calstars), Friday, 19 May 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link
"Preaching the end of the world" is one I'm afraid to listen to cos idk if I can do the emotions that come w/ that song right now
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link
"follow my way" too
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2017 22:32 (seven years ago) link
My Wave is great turned up, that one and S-Unknown were the perfect soundtrack to a fucked spring break trip
― c (calstars), Friday, 19 May 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, May 19, 2017 3:31 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this is the one that got me yesterday
― Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2017 22:54 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv_T8zzH19s
― van smack, Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link
Scott Strapp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7JX-JfGzZI
― van smack, Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link
Xp to Ned: yeah I mean that's what I was badly trying to get at I think, that it struck me that way only on relisten after a number of years away from it because it so much doesn't obviously feel like an heir to Zep or Sabbath, and I think a lot of that distinction is in Cornell's lyrics and vocal persona, and in certain nuances of the way the heavy riffage feels just slightly off kilter.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link
"Ferry Boat #3" on the Singles Soundtrack reissue is quite nice.
― van smack, Saturday, 20 May 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link
Beyond the Wheel is my go to olde SG choon
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 May 2017 01:25 (seven years ago) link
Beyond the Wheel is fucking amazing
It's on some deep Birthday Party Bauhaus shit & I love it. I live for Cornell's banshee wail
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link
He sounded so good on it 3 weeks ago too. :(
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 May 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link
His baritone vox were always underrated. Like his Plant-esque wail gets so much focus but his low to mid range was so resonant and expressive. It is what made "Fell on Black Days" work so well.
"Sumshower" got me through teenage depression too
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 May 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link
Hands All Over is probably the only pro-environment track that warrants replay
― c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 03:22 (seven years ago) link
Touring band cover version tributes to CC are everywhere on Youtube, RHCP, Train, Bush, Living Colour, Ann Wilson, Live (lol), Stone Sour, Megadeath, Scott Stapp.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 20 May 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link
oh man, that Living Colour Blow Up the Outside World is moving as hell.
― Three Word Username, Saturday, 20 May 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, bless them
― MaresNest, Saturday, 20 May 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
I've spent a bunch of today relistening to Down on the Upside and its period b-sodes to try to come up with a better sequence - brad was right, it's not easy. This is the best I could come up with - I figured the best course of action was to try to do a 12-track Badmotorfinger style tracklist than to try and repeat the Superunknown sprawl like they did on the released album. Apologies to any "Ty Cobb" lovers out there.
Pretty NooseDustyNo AttentionTighter & TighterBleed TogetherBurden in my HandRhinosaurNever NamedZero ChanceKaraokeBoot CampBlow Up the Outside World
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 20 May 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link
*b-sides, durr
"Applebite" or "Overfloater" (depending on yr preference) can easily slot in after "Rhinosaur" if that's not sprawling enough for ya
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link
I think it's great there are all these instant covers happening but also telling that most of the bands listed couldn't come close to Soundgarden/Cornell in the first place. (My exceptions would be Living Colour, Ann Wilson and Megadeth when Mustaine isn't an insane goober).
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:04 (seven years ago) link
Stone Sour guy made a really good stab at Unshined
― MaresNest, Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link
But I get your point
cough OUT shined
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link
Oh shit, sorry, where's my head?
― Foghat digs holes in space (MaresNest), Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link
Never really listened to Soundgarden too much, but a) the last time I saw them they were awesome and b) I love "Rhinosaur."
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link
Megadeth when Mustaine isn't an insane goober
don't be uncool, ned
― j., Sunday, 21 May 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link
"megadeth when mustaine isnt an insane goober"
i....dont follow
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 May 2017 00:25 (seven years ago) link
That megadeth tribute clip was painful to watch
― van smack, Sunday, 21 May 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link
How much of role did Thayil play as a songwriter ? Rhinosaur sounds to me like a riff he would write
― c (calstars), Sunday, 21 May 2017 01:13 (seven years ago) link
he has more credits on badmotorfinger, on upside he only had the one
― j., Sunday, 21 May 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link
but he deserved an individual songwriting credit for each of his Billy Corgan quotes
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 21 May 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=norW_pCErk0
― van smack, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link
i like seeing all the artist tributes but i would love something other than 900 versions of black hole sun, is that shitty to say
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link
No because Black Hole Sun is a garbage song no matter who sings it, Cornell included
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link
i dont hate it the way i used to but it's still one of my least favex
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link
def not my fav any more but it was the song that got me into them, so im not gonna sit here and slander it nope.
― Spottie, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link
it's a good song that was a victim of its own success
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link
an ideal DOTU with outtakes should have "Blind Dogs" and "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" imo
― steen vogue (some dude), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:02 (seven years ago) link
Agreed. For my own nostalgic purposes, I'll probably eventually buy an official mix of the entire Self-Pollution session if it's ever available. I'm surprised the entire 5-hour broadcast hasn't been pressed to vinyl by now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqc3mEWxIVA
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link
watched the dave grohl youtube that appends cornell doing an acoustic black hole sun to the end, it's telling how at certain points he is perfectly able to lay back and let his singing be more casual, so that it's clear that the sudden drama at that point in the full recording is manufactured by the band's performance, not necessarily written into the song. but later on he opts for the yelled 'black hole sun! black hole sun!' refrain, which i guess marks the song as recorded/written as a rock song, in a way that he did not think needed to be modified in acoustic performance (but maybe could have been).
― j., Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link
oh come on black hole sun is grebt
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link
in fairness i thought maybe i hated it for a few years there but then i listened to it and i was wrong
I like it as a change of pace on Superunknown but I wouldn't count it among my favourites. The chorus always feels like a bit of a letdown.
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link
it must be weird to know that you've written a song that everyone is going to sing to you when you're dead
― j., Tuesday, 23 May 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:29 (seven years ago) link
That happened to me with Stairway to Heaven, but I never liked BHS in the first place.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:33 (seven years ago) link
Misread that at first as B&S
― The Pickety 33⅓ Policeman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:44 (seven years ago) link
BHS revisionism can suck it, I mean - the thing has become an overplayed staple so it's far from my favorite on the record (that'd be "Limo Wreck" or "Mailman"), but damned if it still doesn't make me wanna sing along.
half of my school thought it was called "Black, Old Son"
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:09 (seven years ago) link
Does it have anything to do with the Lost Generation guy, Harry Crosby?
― The Pickety 33⅓ Policeman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:15 (seven years ago) link
I feel compelled to say mine is not revisionism. I had a viscerally negative reaction to it from the first day I heard it and have been working towards some form of mild neutrality ever since then
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:26 (seven years ago) link
tribunal will rule on that in the morning, have yr notarized affidavits ready!
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:28 (seven years ago) link
I do think it's probably the least interesting of the singles tho......
I'd rather hear a tribute cover of like, "The DAy I Tried to Live"
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link
BHS revisionism can suck it
Perhaps, but by 1994 I was already sick to death of Soundgarden and didn't give a care about Superunknown outside of "My Wave," and the ferocity with which "Black Hole Sun" was overexposed poisoned a song I thought was bad to begin with.
ymmv, of course, but imo the dropoff after Badmotorfinger was significant and probably comparable to R.E.M. post-Bill Berry.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:30 (seven years ago) link
i'd pay human earth dollars for Ann Wilson to do Fourth of July
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:44 (seven years ago) link
some good old clips of Chris, starting with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZaglHQOgt8
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:45 (seven years ago) link
audio only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmJ8ATggl5c
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:47 (seven years ago) link
^^^ this. it's an impossibly sad, beautiful song about depression. I sang it to my daughter as she went off to sleep the other night (she's too young to really grok the words, thankfully) and the "no one sings like you anymore" line hit me like a brick wall
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 09:35 (seven years ago) link
I'm not sure what I think of BHS these days. There's maybe a similar problem with it as with Cornell's other flirtation with a Lennonesque melodic sensibility, Blow Up the Outside World, which I used to think was amazing, but now sounds rather gratingly portentous and cheesy.
― Freedom, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:21 (seven years ago) link
By contrast, some of the more understated stuff on DOTUS, I think, still stands up really well. "Switch Opens" may be another case for arguing that Ben Shepherd was SG's most beguilingly idiosyncratic songwriter (also comes to mind is the melodic and rhythmic wonkiness in the chorus of "Somewhere", or the way an otherwise fairly standard, punk-metal song like "Face Pollution" is totally made by the unhinged instrumental section near the end.)
― Freedom, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:34 (seven years ago) link
I think I may have mentioned it upthread, but I was watching some BMF-era live footage on Youtube a while back and Ben Shepherd is a deranged motherfucker, leaping and staggering around the stage and not missing a note but looking like he's scarcely paying attention to anything that he's doing. Thrilling stuff.
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:50 (seven years ago) link
This one is p great imo.
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 11:23 (seven years ago) link
There's an interview from those days in Bass Player magazine with Shepard and the interviewer talking completely past each other, where Ben talks about wanting to crawl under the stage and set off low-frequency bombs from there.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 11:41 (seven years ago) link
Revisiting King Animal for the first time since it came out. There's a hoarseness in Cornell's voice on "Been Away Too Long" that makes him sound like Sammy Hagar. That was my impression of the album at the time - that it sounded more like Chickenfoot than Soundgarden. We'll see.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:18 (seven years ago) link
'I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota' is the rare lyric about depression that's both hilarious and heartbreaking. I forget because the riffs are all-encompassing on most listens, but really it was the lyrics on Badmotorfinger that sealed the deal for me.
― pavane to the darryl of strawberry (bendy), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link
living colour's blow up the outside world cover was great, was cool to see a tribute by a band that actually had the chops and singing ability to cover soundgarden and do them justice
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:31 (seven years ago) link
also unperson jesus christ chickenfoot have a little decency
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:32 (seven years ago) link
Bones Of Birds is wonderful
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:49 (seven years ago) link
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
Anyone ever listen to that Hater album?
― Heez, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link
After making it all the way through King Animal, my impression from five years ago (!) was reinforced. All the songs were decent riff-rock, but when it was over I couldn't remember how a single one of them went. If I was on a game show and the challenge was, "Hum one song from Soundgarden's King Animal for $10,000," I would be going home empty-handed.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link
i guess that's cool but the playing on that record is wonderful and the songs are all real growers
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
"bones of birds" and "halfway there" are up there with any of cornell's great hooks
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link
and "eyelid's mouth" is maybe the most matt cameron matt cameron song ever, title on down
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
I remember liking it but then not going back to it very often
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link
Wellwater Conspiracy has some jams.
― yodarman, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
The first Hater album was reissued last summer, it's quite good. They made a second one years later but I've never heard it.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I really liked the first one
― Heez, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
i liked it alright at the time, but i have no idea if it's aged well or not.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
matt cameron is a good guy who writes great songs
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
he also warbled "puberty love" in attack of the killer tomatoes…
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
yes! <3
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link
i'm listening to higher truth for the first time and it's a lovely record, way way wayyyy better than carry on, idk why i didn't give it a shot when it came out
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link
probably because you heard Carry On
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link
j/k tho. I kinda wanna listen to his other solo albs now, I ignored them because I hated Carry On so much but now is the time to get acquainted.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link
"Follow My Way" is still my fav solo joint of his....starts out so Zeppelin-y
carry on is p bad beyond "you know my name" and "arms around your love" and i have no idea why except that maybe audioslave briefly ruined his songwriting
"follow my way" is such a jam
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:53 (seven years ago) link
I hated Audioslave but man he he get mileage out of that material with his performances
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
i just revisited a few audioslave singles. "be yourself" is a great song. the more aggro audioslave tracks are dogshit imo
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link
now i'm onto scream, which 1) lol 2) but i think this song is a jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A9lcO2xeMQ
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link
brad, it's bad. I've wanted to defend scream so bad but in the end, it's just not possible.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link
lmao i love it while recognizing it is bad
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
dang that's bad
i do feel like cornell might have been in store for an increasingly interesting solo career as he aged, cf Robert Plant.
― nomar, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
i was hoping Scream would be nothing but covers of the Michael Jackson song when it came out
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Down On The Upside is better than I remembered. It's still too long, but that's a quibble. I had forgotten songs like Zero Chance and Tighter and Tighter.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
Down on the Upside is notable for being the Soundgarden record that Ben Shepherd had the largest hand in, writing-wise. Thayil contributed 'Never The Machine Forever' (a standout track, IMO) but much less compared to what he'd done before.
What I always liked about this band is that all the band members wrote songs and contributed riffs and ideas, even Matt Cameron who came up with some great stuff.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
you can really hear cameron's melodic sensibility and odd Soundgarden-ish chord changes in his songs for Pearl Jam
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 25 May 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link
Cameron has "Mailman", "Fresh Tendrils", "Applebite" and "Room a Thousand Years Wide" to his credit, so fair fennel seeds to him. And your comments have aroused in me something I'd have never expected: interest in 00s PJ.
― Freedom, Friday, 26 May 2017 07:38 (seven years ago) link
His stuff on Binaural is partic strong
― pickety third (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2017 09:36 (seven years ago) link
"Green Disease" off the mostly ignorable Riot Act is great
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 26 May 2017 11:21 (seven years ago) link
I didn't realize 'Room a Thousand Years Wide' was Cameron... it's about my favorite Soundgarden song most days.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link
It's a Thayil lyric, but Cameron wrote the music.
― Freedom, Friday, 26 May 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
They should have done more songs with sax on them.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
or songs about improbably large rooms
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link
goddamn what a good song
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:55 (seven years ago) link
I saw some pics from the memorial & fell apart again. But it did lead me to find a full recording of his Albert Hall show from last year. He sounds so fucking good
https://youtu.be/z6qUbq6JzFo
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 May 2017 06:14 (seven years ago) link
TOMORROW BEGIIIIINS
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 May 2017 11:32 (seven years ago) link
NORAH JONES - BLACK HOLE SUN tribute cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQ08Ixczvo
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link
Whole raft of covers here
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/chris-cornell-see-best-tributes-to-soundgarden-singer-w483606
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
Hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayosR-SJMqw
― Freedom, Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
HI DERE
― Lmao Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link
xp "Get Right" sounds like a Soundgarden song.
― billstevejim, Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link
whoa, this exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6cyaUzuU0
― billstevejim, Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:11 (seven years ago) link
that clip Freedom posted is hysterically funny imo, well worth watching
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 May 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link
lost me at spoonman
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 28 May 2017 23:46 (seven years ago) link
Still cannot really believe it.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 29 May 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link
clip is funny but sad... natasha schneider too...
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 29 May 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link
It's a parody of a classic Sid-era Pink Floyd interview.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 29 May 2017 06:29 (seven years ago) link
i got a tattoo of the "s" on ULTRAMEGA OK
― maura, Monday, 29 May 2017 06:50 (seven years ago) link
ULTRAMAURA OK
― j., Monday, 29 May 2017 08:22 (seven years ago) link
Rock
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 May 2017 14:24 (seven years ago) link
\m/ \m/
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link
I put down some of thoughts re Chris Cornell & Seattle bands & my teenage life here, if anyone wants to read
http://tourdefrump.blogspot.com/2017/05/its-just-end-of-world-chris-cornell-and.html?m=1
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 May 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link
Wonderful work. :-)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 May 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link
I'm always struck by how few people talk about the Screaming Trees. Lanegan, yeah, but not the band. "Sweet Oblivion" is a great album.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link
Ha, I've been thinking about them randomly for the past couple of weeks. (In part due to the great new Lanegan album, admittedly.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link
Sweet Oblivion and Dust are masterpieces, and a lot of their SST output is brilliant too.
― Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:45 (seven years ago) link
yeah, it was like there wasn't enough room in the wider world for one more Seattle grunge band
― President Keyes, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:57 (seven years ago) link
Screaming Trees have always been a favorite- Cornell co-produced and did backing vocals on Uncle Anaesthesia.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 9 June 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/inside-chris-cornells-moving-refugee-themed-final-video-w488762
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 10:20 (seven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/chris-cornells-daughter-pens-poignant-fathers-day-note-w488849
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 10:23 (seven years ago) link
'Overfloater' is good. I don't think I've ever made it this far into DOtU before.
― chap, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link
i ordered a CD (the old pre-remastered version of Badmotorfinger -- which I think actually sounds better a/b-ing my itunes rip vs. the spotify version of the deluxe remaster) right after his death off Amazon (it was on sale one day for $4)
it's really been rewarding listening to this band with fresh ears, I hadn't actively listened to Soundgarden (with the exception of checking out King Animal a couple times) in so many years, so blown away but how GOOD they were...a lot of this stuff I listened to on the car radio or cassette player or a cheapo boombox in someone's apartment or dorm, now listening on good headphones, the rhythm section is such so top notch and Kim was heads above any other guitarist of this era, in terms of having chops but not being a wanker and also using a lot of weird tunings and dissonance and odd time signature riffs that are somehow as infectious as 70s rock
and Cornell...man just a real rock singer that can fucking go out there and GET IT IN like a 70s dude
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:30 (seven years ago) link
yep
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:34 (seven years ago) link
yeah, and even a lot of the popular retro 70s-styled rock acts that plopped out after the turn of the century never had guys who could wail vocally, they were almost always working with a limited toolbox.
the weird tunings really opened up so many sonic possibilities. when I was learning guitar, Soundgarden were some of the earliest riffs I learned, and I remember learning "Mailman" and "4th of July" and how fun those were to play due to the really weird tunings and unusual finger positioning. always purposeful, like Mailman sounds so fat because the tuning has the A and D strings detuned and set to the same note so it's essentially fattening the high note of the octave, while the E string is detuned and serves as the low octave note. and the tuning allows you to have a Drop D type setup, fingerwise (only with a lower tuning and fatter sound).
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link
yeah i didn't even know about something as routine as drop D until I learned "Outshined"
Badmotorfingers is also kind of more...psychedelic than I thought of them, like I dunno they are traditionally what I think of as a psych band but there's a sorta LSD vibe that hangs over it
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link
They are def psychedelic. I remember the first things I read about them in the Melody Maker circa 91 referred to Thayil's "heavy karmic guitar".
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 29 June 2017 10:32 (seven years ago) link
I said something about this way up thread, but they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic - the shifting overcast-sky textures of the arrangements, riffs that are complex but not wanky, Cornell's pleading hooks.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 29 June 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
God yeah. They would have smashed Paper Sun.
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 29 June 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link
"Mind Riot" kinda felt like a precursor to some of the more atmospheric stuff they did on later albums
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
That Vedder video making the rounds is cathartic and sad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2GcJ32m13Y
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 July 2017 14:10 (seven years ago) link
they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic
for your consideration, this challop (?) i found on the interweb:
'SG was always more Heart than Sabbath'
― j., Friday, 24 November 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY5tDB9mp3cwhat a voice
― niels, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:42 (six years ago) link
OMG
― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Friday, 27 April 2018 09:54 (six years ago) link
heavy as fuckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPDK0m8Ir4
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 29 July 2019 11:03 (five years ago) link
Wow. Thanks for that.And for this:
/they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic/for your consideration, this challop (?) i found on the interweb:'SG was always more Heart than Sabbath'
― U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 July 2019 11:37 (five years ago) link
that whole new live album is great, some nice early jams on it. felt very very lucky to have caught one of those reunion shows in london - they were on amazing form.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 29 July 2019 12:23 (five years ago) link
looking back at setlist only sad thing for me personally was no jesus christ pose https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/soundgarden/2012/o2-shepherds-bush-empire-london-england-53da9f5d.html
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 29 July 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link
new live album is immense. cornell's voice is so strong.
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Monday, 29 July 2019 21:17 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I'm listening to the live album now and it's redeeming King Animal songs for me - I found that album incredibly forgettable at the time, but those tunes slot into an amazing set very well.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:07 (five years ago) link
it's a great album! worth spending time with!
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link
Bones Of Birds is one of their very best
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 11:33 (five years ago) link
Drown me riff 4 lyfe
― calstars, Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:32 (five years ago) link
nah slaves & bulldozers
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:57 (five years ago) link
why choose
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:44 (five years ago) link
“Hands all over” a close second maybe
― calstars, Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:54 (five years ago) link
"Beyond the Wheel" is the tits
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:59 (five years ago) link
cosign on that too
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:02 (five years ago) link
I miss Chris Cornell.
― Simon H., Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUqkDX0tnfM
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:31 (five years ago) link
I will never regret buying the ticket to see him on a whim at some minor local festival (when I couldn't make Welcome to Rockville), as he was gone only a few weeks later. he seemed in good spirits and sounded great, with a lot of his power coming back.
oh, the other song that was a jam was "Room a Thousand Years Wide"
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:34 (five years ago) link
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, September 20, 2019 10:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
http://cfcy.fm/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/08/devil-horns-291x300.jpg
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 September 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hKsPtw4yY
was curious about this performance and just ended up watching it straight through. greatest band of all time
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:08 (five years ago) link
I saw them on that tour. Gigantic performance, and one of the greatest large venue-concert experiences I can remember.
― Mule, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:21 (five years ago) link
I was at that show. I'd flown home from Seattle, interviewing Mark Arm, that morning. It rained, and it was sublime. Cornell's voice just got better and better.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:46 (five years ago) link
He wrote the best vocal melodies.
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:02 (five years ago) link
Yeah that tour was awesome. I saw them the year prior in SF and they were on fire.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:18 (five years ago) link
Was reminded of this today:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71ZmsBHcOtL._AC_SX679_.jpg
SOUNDGARDEN ROOKIE CARD!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:46 (four years ago) link
Sad it's not the rare error card with Scott Weiland in a tutu
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
I'm gonna hitI'm gonna hit thatI'm gonna hit that upper deck and run
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
XP But otoh you get Ben Shepard's photo and Jason Everman's credit.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link
no Hiro, no credibility for a rookie card
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link
Everman’s incorrect credit - he was only in the videos and maybe toured the album. Hiro played on it and he’s pictured on the cover, for crying out loud!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 09:09 (four years ago) link
I am pretty sure this was Jason's only studio contribution with SG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpT4kgg5xlw
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/soundgarden-vicky-cornell-resolution-unreleased-chris-cornell-songs-1235304525/
― dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link
Sad it’s taken this long just to get close to getting these songs out.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link
Can't believe it's been almost six years. Wow.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link
Well danghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QCJ-vWuxuY
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 04:58 (three weeks ago) link
Racist assholes in the comments. I thought she sounded p amazing, even on Beyond The Wheel, which is a motherfucker to sing.
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 09:50 (three weeks ago) link
Holy fuck those comments are an even worse cesspool than I even feared. Gross, misogynistic, body shaming, sexually harassing and racist all in one! YouTube needs to be nuked from orbit at this point.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:33 (three weeks ago) link
all respect to Chris, I have seen countless SG live vids where his singing is p ropey, esp from Superunknown-era. His vocal parts are motherfuckers to sing live and in the moment, and she did a thrilling job. (Saw the reformed SG in Hyde Park, I think in 2013? And they fucking slayed, tbh. RIP Chris)
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 18:21 (three weeks ago) link
Yea I mean he sounded fine in later years but he'd lost a lot of power after he shredded his voice. So haters in the comments can fuck off
― Riposte Malone (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 19:22 (three weeks ago) link
also LOL at the dickholes saying they should team up with Richie Kotzen. No. Nope. No way.
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 19:42 (three weeks ago) link
Didn't Brandi Carlile sing in place of Chris Cornell a couple of times? I like the idea of replacing some of these shriekers and screamers and wailers with women. The one or two times Nirvana did it it was with Joan Jett. Linkin Park just got a female singer. When I saw Bowie he had Gail Ann Dorsey do the Freddie Mercury parts in "Under Pressure." Supposedly Van Halen tried to get Patti Smyth to replace DLR.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 20:21 (three weeks ago) link