Dizzy Rascal - I Luv You

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I was just tipped off to this track by a friend in the UK who ranked it among his finest singles of the year; now, in the space of 48 hours, I think I've listened to it 50 times.

I'm too close to it right now to get any solid idea as to how much I actually like it, but for the moment it certainly *feels* like it should've been my single of the year. (!!) Grubby bass farts, a wall of messy, imprecise beats, this venomous rap and - this is the best part - a prickly, don't-fuck-me-around female spoken word bit that perks up out of nowhere and blows the song into a million pieces of grubby shrapnel.

Apparently Dizzy Rascal = a seventeen year old London kid who did this whole track w/ a mic and an iBook. Anyone know more?

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know more than that, but I have to agree the song is brilliant. His voice is a perfect mix between self-pity, venom and a tinge of paranoia. The music is fantastic as well. As you already know.

― fractal (fractal), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:16 (twenty-three years ago)

why. don't. you. check. the. other. threads

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I did! There's a few people calling it single of the year, but not much beyond that.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Arg. I just realized that this was Simon Reynolds' single of the year.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:29 (twenty-three years ago)

haha a mate of mine came back from some rave and said asher d said summat like: "and i'll take his mum and make his mum my mum" jolly good

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 04:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Has he done anything since? Neither Soulseek nor Google turn up much of anything.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 04:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Dizzie is in Roll Deep, they've done loads of tunes already, he's done a few on his ownl, too. Check www.rolldeepcrew.com I like I Love You but other Roll Deep stuff isn't very musical, to say the least!

― Fuzz, Monday, 6 January 2003 04:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I take it the track is awaiting an official release? I'm sure the labels are all over him, what with Dizzie Rascal voted most promising new British artist for 2003 on the BBC...

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 6 January 2003 09:09 (twenty-three years ago)

a seventeen year old London kid who did this whole track w/ a mic and an iBook.

Why do people always talk about how musicians used an iBook or PowerBook or Laptop or something equally uninformative, when what we actually want to know is what SOFTWARE they used.

Saying someone made their music using a "computer" is like saying someone made they're music using an "instrument". Yeah and ... ?

― phil jones (interstar), Monday, 6 January 2003 10:20 (twenty-three years ago)

haah guess what phil no one cares about that either

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark P are u in Lahndahn? I haf said this aboot 10 times now but check Deja Vu on 92.3fm on monday nights 10-12 for the Rolldeep show.
Also, check the 1xtra site for a 45 min Slimzee dj set featuring Dizzy Rascal on the mic.
This is what a friend Nick said about them:

But you really need to watch out for the 2 crews that have formed from the now-defuncy Pay As You Go Cartel, especially ROLL DEEP. They've turned garage (and, as far as I'm concerned, ALL music) completely on it head with a style which doesn't really sound like anything, or anyone else. Their producer, and 'leader', Wiley makes produces these records which my friend described as sounding like 'boxing matches in space'. They have NO beats at all, no '2-step' -- just these crazy distorted-to-the-max basslines and weird super-cheap sounding computer game-style noises, which sound almost like they come from the Legend of Zelda or Super Mario. I guess in its 'beatlessness', it is somewhat akin to with ragga, but it doesn't sound like any ragga I've ever heard. I guess some of the Neptunes productions are an influence too (some of the crazier ones like 'Grindin'), but again that doesn't get over the weirdness of it. It really does sound fresh. And then they have these incredible MC's over-the-top, who are so so so raw lyric and voice-wise, the best of which is this guy Dizzee Rascal, who just turned 17 6 weeks ago (they actually have another MC, 'Titchy Strider', who is 12). Dizzee has just put out his first single, 'I Love You', and it is easily my favourite single of the year. It's vaguely like 'Don't Mug Yourself' by The Streets but a million million time crazier, a million times rawer, and a million times better.

― _gi88y_, Monday, 6 January 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes to the videogame thing definitely - music as beat-em-up!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Gi88y I'm in Toronto, which is probably why I was a little slow on the uptake with 'I Love You'. Thanks for the link, though. Will investigate now.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

What, no beats AT ALL? Ambient garage?

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 6 January 2003 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

'beatlessness'

Guess how I misread this.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

heh.

― _gi**y_, Monday, 6 January 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Download from Gabba!

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Saying someone made their music using a "computer" is like saying someone made they're music using an "instrument". Yeah and ... ?

Phil, it's an important distinction to make because, despite appearances, many (if not most) laptop musicians use their portables in the context of larger, more versatile (re: expensive) home recording studios, where external samplers, compressors, mic pre-amps, mixers, outboard effects, etc do a lot of the work.

My point was that there's an admirable sorta-punkness to doing all that with just a computer and a mic...

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm surprised it wz md on an i-mac actually i thght it was just like a 808 or summat ya get me? even so, mark p i concr it is very punka; diy as fuck all self released and the pirate community is one to rival olympia or what not.

― _gi88y_, Monday, 6 January 2003 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

the pirate community is one to rival olympia or what not

Areal jumping
200 meter MC'ing (with hurdles)
Steeple mixing
Etc.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

unimpressed by other rolldeep stuff so far, eskimo devil mix is supposedly wiley's masterpiece genresmash but aside from getting misty-eyed about the track being made by kids! from east london! music lives! and dreaming about the metapossibilities then y'know shrug

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

quite like wileys 'bounce'. 'eskimo' left me a bit...err cold hehehe

most of this stuff is for djs with mcs to rhyme over - i have no crew therefore it sounds a bit boring on its own...
got something by hatcha today though on big apple 'bashment' thats pretty cool, if only for the little marimba tinkles.

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 6 January 2003 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

trivia: i think hatcha works behind the counter at big apple

― zemko (bob), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 01:18 (twenty-three years ago)

more insanely good dizzy trax: hoe, go and jezebel (this one's on the net)

little bit of a common theme developing

― zemko (bob), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Take Time (Dizzy Rascal and Wiley) is kinda cute.

― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

While we're creaming ourselves over a Dizzie Rascal white-label 12"... Baby D, an Atlanta-based rapper on Big Oomp Records, has inked a multi-million dollar deal with Epic Records. The 18-year-old rapper has moved over 100,000 CD's independently through Big Oomp. "I am happy Epic won the bidding war for me," Baby D told AllHipHop.com. "I am humbled by the amount of money and the effort made by Big Oomp Records and Epic Records on my behalf.

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

So what's he sound like, then?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

really good relentless farting

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 02:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Dizzy Rascal & Wiley - Happens For A Reason = also grebt.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 9 January 2003 02:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Blipment! Blipment! Blipment!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 January 2003 04:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterling you've done it again.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 9 January 2003 04:53 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

hey um i just heard this track and uh... haha no er

dizzy and his brotha wiley opened for jay-z when he played london the other day

― zemko (bob), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-three years ago)

ned: 2 young drunk london lovers driving around, either arguing snippily with each other or bitching down their mobiles to their friends about it; tape player is playing clipse's "grindin" after it's been dropped and glued back together with baconfat. utter lack of good vibes (i keep imagining the Evil Dead sample coming in during the "I Love You" chorus - "you make me feel so GOOOD!", is that wrong of me?)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Um, I guess it's pretty good... what am I missing? I don't see at all what's so earthmoving about this particular track.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 3 February 2003 05:05 (twenty-three years ago)

To not love it = to not be young and hip and self-creating. *SOB* (Note: I haven't actually heard it and have no opinion on said cut.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)

take time is even better

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 3 February 2003 07:37 (twenty-three years ago)

ned it's on gabba.net? c'mon join the bloody CROWD

― zemko (bob), Monday, 3 February 2003 08:46 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

any one know where i can get the lyrics for 'i luv you??? if so please email them to me or get bk to me plz!!!!
gorgebaby@aol.com

― , Wednesday, 26 February 2003 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

this track is a sonic mess. it's not good or bad, there's just this utterly alien energy to it which is hard to forget. it's mean.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Could it be a hit, do you think? My girlfriend adores it which is usually a sign of commercial potential.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i can see it denting the top 40 maybe if it really gets popular (i mean you wouldnt have thought Punjabi MC would end up in the top 5 this time last year right?), but currently my only awareness of its existence is down to ILM and Gabba, no mention anywhere else (i'm not reading mags or listening to much radio tho) - a video would be fantastic!

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)

haha i feel almost protective of it now, how idiotic

i think it'd cause too much lyrical trubble in its present form sadly but i don't think it would need much tweaking

but roll deep are due to explode any minute now, they have more 'street' presha than more fire or sticky ever had, it's popular on 1xtra and that too

i don't think i've seen you mention 'i luv you' before tom?

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone heard those wizzbit tracks by geeneus ripping off wiley?

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)

also has ned heard this yet??

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a post of mine upthread zemko agreeing w/the videogames thing. I downloaded it off gabba.net like everyone else! Would have gone in my download this list but I didn't want to kick anything out by that point, then I thought about an appendix but eh.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

how much do you consider 'I Love You' to be innovative as well as just 'great track' - its not just the element of innovation that makes it great perhaps but lets think about it - deep thick, almost mutated London accents - you get this on a lot of British hip hop and ragga over the years of course, the fantastic boy/girl battle as it were - great concept done in a very good way (now Skinner should find a female to spar with on the mic ;), nasty basslines straight from dancehall/jungle skool - the cherry on top for me is those mad 80s style synths, thats a really surreal touch for me and when combined with all the other things creates a sum total that just ends up sounding like something relatively new and different...then there's the way it was created and the fact that its just by a very young guy which is always exciting for me

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Who is the girl MC on it?

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Best noise on the whole track - Dizzee going "oh well"

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

nah the girl's oh well is better!

― minna (minna), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

agreed

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh well.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)

but its her "that boy's some prick you know" that takes the cake

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

listening to Wiley's 'Shanghai' again now, the bassline really reminds me of old Prodigy stuff, a very good thing - what i always loved more than anything with the old rave stuff, drum n' bass and then garage was the use of 'mad' hi-tech sounds as if the tracks were really just about 'that sound' and nothing else

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Contender for beating "oh well" = (as well as the girl's "oh well") Dizzy's flutter laugh at his own suggestion that "it's all love".

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:14 (twenty-three years ago)

no really has anyone heard his track "happens for a reason"? less ment, more blip, but sick nonetheless.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

i still like 'take time' best

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)

and you're still wrong, gareth :-)

evidence against it being a pop hit: it's the only record i ever play that my flatmate can't stand (well, she's not really into the free jazz/noise stuff that much, either). unfortunately i tend to put it on quite often. my sister's also not a fan.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

(i still get this going through my head more days than not, with the consequence that i walk around muttering/singing "i love you, i-i-i love you", which tends to get at best weird looks.)

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

(and at worst loveless intercourse?)

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yeh i think altho it has pop tendencies its also quite uncomprimising at the same time, far more than something like 'Mundian Te Bach Ke' even - it depends on how well received it was in the garage club circle i guess...if Sticky's 'Booo!' can chart than maybe this could too albeit lower down

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)

still that thrilling skyscreamer finale x2 for me: "rah i'm articulate i'm not an idiot dem bwoy nuh ready yet.." feel the resolution, for better or worse, pride eating at ideals

(also when you just hear him peek "what?!" in the middle of the girl's chorus)

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

also has ned heard this yet??

Me? Why me?

It's somewhere in the pile of mp3s I've downloaded over the past two months. Out of them all I've only heard about three albums (there are I think about fifty plus scattered singles...no, wait, there's a couple of huge box sets in there as well...).

I might try some catching up, I hear there's a Dntel album I need to listen to as well. But I still don't understand how in the world everyone is listening to what they're listening to without eating, sleeping, etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

cos of yr sobbing upthread silly

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)

All is clear. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:16 (twenty-three years ago)

dizzy on pay as u go's "still the same" is fantastique

also, nancy sat up during the roll deep rmx of "let's push things forward" when dizzy came on and said "who is THAT?", also always a good sign

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

check out 'one big cycle'

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:01 (twenty-three years ago)

dizzy on pay as u go's "still the same" is fantastique

That's More Fire Crew. Meanwhile: Dizzee and Wiley Kat signed by XL.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 3 March 2003 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

something i was thinking about today: could dizzy et al be the first twist in the "history of the pirates" that's impervious to idm?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with zemko, that "I'm articulate" part at the end is stunning, I must try and hear some other stuff.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 3 March 2003 22:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah jess, someday someone will speed up the beats and throw some poignant/melancholy melody on top and presto.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 3 March 2003 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

You mean like this?

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:03 (twenty-three years ago)

(shameless plug)

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:03 (twenty-three years ago)

haha that didn't take you long!

― g.cannon (gcannon), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

a man can dream!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:16 (twenty-three years ago)

this reminds me: "Kray Twins" by Renegade Soundwave sounds exactly like "Grindin"!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)

The reason Dizee fails completely is his inability to realise that all good music (apart from VU-I'm Set Free) consists of is the peddling of a relaxed shtick. That's why blingbling rap is 4 million times better than the Blipwank. He wants anger but if it doesn't cohere into a relaxed shtick it is of no worth to anyone who isn't a square. Or maybe he has a relaxed shtick but it's so unlikeable yr forced to lie to manifest his uninterestingness. "To each his own, young woman!"

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.hyperdub.com/softwar/dizzee.cfm

interview with dizzy at hyperdub via the aegis of (shudder) vice magazine

interesting to hear that vice wanted to kick of their 7" series with a double a side: "i luv you" b/w "oi!" am i the only person who thinks this music seems perfect for the 7" format, even moreso than 12". (not just for the vague "punk" connections, but the dancehall ones as well.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:23 (twenty-three years ago)

hahahaha Dizzee on Bush --> "He's like a little white Don King."

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

i agree jess, though being a dj-centric music it must be something to do with sound quality perhaps (though this doesn't seem to bother the jamaicans)

i hate to sound like a twat, but could people call him dizzee more often as opposed to dizzy. it really annoys me.

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)

well he's been using different spellings so you don't only sound like a twat i guess

― zemko (bob), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

other pressing questions: 'love' or 'luv'? 'you' or 'u'?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

we'll know in april when the OFFICIAL SINGLE is released

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)

(does anyone else find it as amazing as i do that we've spent all this time talking about a song that was released only in a limited edition of 1000 white labels up until now? does anyone here even OWN the 12"? god bless the internet.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

i dunno; every flier i've seen his name printed on over the past 2 years has been spelt 'dizzee' and on the records i have it's also spelt 'dizzee' so..
it's spelt i luv u on the record i have

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

(tho i actually heard it in mp3 form first before miraculously stumbling across the white label days later in a shop in holloway. god bless north london)

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

does anyone here even OWN the 12"?

yes, goes down a treat with Jon E Cash - "Swolla"

― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:04 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm actually glad its getting a re-release this year so it can make my top ten

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

i wonder if some crazy white guy on tigerbeat 6 or somesuch will make an ironic remix

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

"i luv u (knifehandchop's gabba gabba wahey drivewipe)"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:12 (twenty-three years ago)

"i luv u (lesser's prosaic leg-warming dntel rascal is dizzee remix)

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:17 (twenty-three years ago)

"i luv u (blectum's from blipment dizzsploitation remix)"

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)

"i luv u (cex cooped up on an english council estate getting his laptop stolen by youths dub)

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:40 (twenty-three years ago)

"i luv u (kid606 pissed vice magazine is interested in this guy as the next american underground 15 minutes and wishes it was the yeart 2000 again clubmix)"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I still need to hear this.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

"i luv you (max tundra's third tentacle's some prick you know dna splice)"

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

haha i was gonna do "i luv u (kid 606's some prick u know remix)"

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anybody heard the 2nd mix of I Luv U the hyperdub interview mentions?

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 22:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I love how he's just this close to cracking a laugh on "15 she's underage that's raw."

― g.cannon (gcannon), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Anybody heard the 2nd mix of I Luv U the hyperdub interview mentions?

Yeah it's the one featuring Sharky that you can get on one of those sites (onthedecks/2stepisonfire??) It's so sweet, I luv eet!

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

naked as sin's above statement approaches Geiric levels of blindness/cluelessness/wrongness. Dizzee's intense hyperemotionalism is key to his greatness. It's so cool that his pain & frustration can take him from I Luv U to beautiful stuff like the remix and 'Take Time'.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:55 (twenty-three years ago)

:-P

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Thursday, 6 March 2003 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I've had the opposite reaction as Andrew: of the maybe 20-odd garage-rap tracks I've heard, this one somehow seemed to leap way out beyond everything else. I keep doing A/B listens to figure out what it is, and I'm still not entirely sure: partly it's the dinginess, and partly it's just a far more affecting vocal performance, but I still feel like I'm missing whatever it is that makes this one crack hard like a whip where some of the others wave around a bit more limply.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

He doesn't have an appealing voice so his "intense hyperemotionalism" comes off as being for squares.

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:33 (twenty-three years ago)

And blind to what? Blind to the means of becoming a square?

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Thursday, 6 March 2003 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

12th May for the full release apparently.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 28 March 2003 11:44 (twenty-three years ago)

faster, ilm, faster!

the 'i luv u' 2nd mix b/w 'vexed' is out now, and if you're angry that you can't get this stuff in rough trade then tell the guys in notting hill that you'd rather decide for yourself if £8 is an immoral sum to pay for a 12". anyway both are on the decks dot com

dizz has a terrific way with samples.. the restrained "ok" in vexed as both the ok of those who don't listen, who "take the piss" / and the ok of: i'm gonna do it my way now. so simple so intense so brilliant

― zemko (bob), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:38 (twenty-three years ago)

zemko is the "second" mix the one with the twinkly shit?

also, as i'm about to pitch a dizzee piece, the "full release" is on XL right?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

how does the new mix of i luv you rate?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

if it's the one i'm thinking of it's my favorite single of the year so far; a total rewrite

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:44 (twenty-three years ago)

yowza

nick k we need you now

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, twinkly. the "could you teach me to share" one

it's a heartbreaker for real

i think i read in the face it's on an xl offshoot called platinum projects i think

― zemko (bob), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

no you don't mark p! read me again!

― zemko (bob), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

zemko i thought you meant you could buy the 12 inches there

downloading

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

so the official release is going to be the wiley mix?! Or a third one altogether?

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:08 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a bootleg of this that mixes it with 'Don't Mug Yourself' by The Streets. It's dull.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

this "twinkly shit" mix is astounding (and astoudingly sentimental) - the adolescent 'heart on his hoodie' flipside of all that guttah grime. ha if only this was what was 'indie dance' really sounded like: pining, wounded, a little resentful, a little wistful (i mean fuck is that a synth cello??) with great wobbly bass. and he spins that sample like how after the last day of school you couldn't stop looking at the yearbook photo of the girl you really wanted to take to the prom, self-torturingly, trying to squeeze some kind of humanity out, the response that you felt you deserved..

(uhm....)

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck this dizzy/asher d throwdown (acapella) from on the decks is fantastic. You can hear dizzy running circles around asher who's like a new york mc who leans further into the beat while dizzy who switches his meter up on each line. Asher tells a better story but Dizzy is more point on while Asher's disses can be tossed at anyone.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:12 (twenty-three years ago)

It's up - HERE

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 3 April 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Clarification - Vexed is up, I'll put Sharkey's mix up too (if you want.. request.) But it's a decent copy of Take Time and the other untitled stuff that needs to be heard.

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 3 April 2003 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah every copy i've "take time" i've gotten has sounded as if it had been dropped in a toilet

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 April 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)

WHY DONT U WRITE ABOUT IT ON YOUR BLOG GET ME

― PACKA-9-MILLI, Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

ohmygod

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

is that a bog-blog pun?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I want to hear a decent copy of Diz's 'Looks Like I'm Losing It'

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Thursday, 3 April 2003 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm obsessed with looks like i'm losing it. the melody is so infectious and saccharine but the lyrics... man, for a 17 year old he's got some fucking internal conflicts by the sounds of it. does dizzee produce this one?

― schnellschnell, Monday, 7 April 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

33 minutes in on the 40 min set with wiley that used to be on onthedecks is like some of the most spectacular stuff I've heard from him in some time -- the give and take between him and wiley, how they play and pause off one another. He's using the Big Mic Man riddim for it, but slightly faster and plenty cut up. Where Flo Dan strides thru the song, Dizzy is all about the pauses and bursts of inspiration.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 7 April 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"i'm streetwise hang with them fat guys/baptized make your whole crew capsize/slap guys if they wanna talk wise/ras gets known to attack guys/no lies man better recognize/when i brought you there's no clear skies/we jacked guys/we kidnapped them/we cap guys/ransack rampage stand back guys/my days/what is he like/dizzy dot come/dizzy dot bust mic/world wide web dot slash eastend / dizzy dot com jacks up your friend / co dot u k at rascala / barefoot kickback slash dot holla / frank frasier dot lyrical tank / dizzy dot com slash going on stank"

each line is punctuated by like a single hit, and then at the end of this whole acappela bit wiley kicks the riddim back in.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 7 April 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll put Sharkey's mix up too (if you want.. request.)

Request!

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 7 April 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

no, a decent copy of 'take time' and the dizzee/asher d throwdown! (on the decks doesn't want me to have it)

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 7 April 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

omg! i just heard this track "fix up look sharp"... forget about garage. just forget all about it. slow big funk drum beat, el-p style rollercoaster dip "wooh!" punctuation and that ancient old 'get awwn down!' sample, as if to mock

and that's it... i was so shocked i couldn't even hear the lyrics

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

it's like "fuck you s reynolds rave theory continuum! I AM REAL HIPHOP!!"

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

it would be great if dizzee dissed reynolds in a record a la pe and john leland

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 24 April 2003 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Dizzee is your new god.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 24 April 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

is there an album or wot? i know this kind of thing isnt really for albums but he seems to have so many tracks out i could do with a proper collection instead of a handful of poor quality mp3s

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 24 April 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

take time is great,it sounds like the jackson five or something
is that mix up on gabba.net?
if so,is there a way of downloading from gabba through just clicking on a direct link to the file?
my computer is fucked and the site doesn't really work for me,so if possible could someone do me a huge favour and put a direct link to whatever files are being discussed here?

― robin (robin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

also,what is the twinkly shit mix of i luv u called?

― robin (robin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone?
is it the one featuring sharky?

― robin (robin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yes

― Ben Williams, Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

cheers
its on slsk but i keep getting cut off...

― robin (robin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

They have it here

― Ben Williams, Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

cool,thanks a million...

― robin (robin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

'album out in july'

― minna (minna), Saturday, 26 April 2003 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Really?!!!

*faints*

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Saturday, 26 April 2003 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah suddenly there's a fair amount of stuff on slsk

― robin (robin), Saturday, 26 April 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i listened to the 1xtra mix thing last night::: it made me want to vomit how good it was. because he's really amazing and he can just go on and on without slowing down. i didn't want to stop hearing it at any point. but after i heard it i decided that i might not have really liked it. like it was some kind of thing that made me want to vomit at first listen / get excited about but everyone would stop caring about and i would stop caring about at the same time or just stop listening to / telling people stuff about. like -- i don't know -- the dj/rupture thing or ........... the streets .............. hearing the streets was more exciting than hearing 'i luv you' for the first time and i felt kind of betrayed when everyone stopped worrying about the streets and started listening to indie rock again. but the mix thing seemed like it wouldn't be like that. see, i kept forgetting if i really liked 'i luv you' ----------- i thought so solid crew was great and all those other stupid gays like pay as u go and more fire and whatever ------------> but dizzy rascal was talking about guns in the mixtalk and i got excited. but i'm not from england! so, who knows.

― d k (d k), Sunday, 27 April 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i got about ten percent of that on slsk,it sounds really good...

― robin (robin), Sunday, 27 April 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0318/harvell.php

coughcough

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

(alternate, just under the wire title: "cold gettin sensible")

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

and all those other stupid ~~gays~~ like pay as u go and more fire and whatever

tell me this is an embarassing typo.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Has anyone heard the new Wiley tune, 'Ice Rink' i think? It takes the computer game analogy to a whole 'nother level; really minimal sparkly tweaks that sound like Mario jumping, and then a big bass noise that could be like dieing.

Also, i was told that Dizzee thinks Nirvana are "buff" and he digs 'In Utero'.

― ss, Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

tracer SO otm w the kray twins - grindin parallels (i made this discovery indepedently today). 88 was also the year of "my melody". now i'm just suprised that it took all of 14 years for the synthesis of the two.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 10 May 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

“From school I just used to sit and make beats. I feel it from the inside. I listened to a lot of dirty south when I was younger, heavy metal, I used to listen to music differently. I used to think ‘Why is that man screaming like that? Why does he do that? Why does this sound like that? I wanted to understand everything so I could make my contribution. It’s got jungle on there, garage, rock, hip hop and my own little ideas. I try to show as much versatility as possible get me?..."

From RWD magazine, excerpts at http://www.rwdmag.com/features/features.php?id=213&title=Dizzee%20Rascal

― ss, Monday, 12 May 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The album is called 'Boy In The Corner' btw.

― ss, Monday, 12 May 2003 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Is anyone interested to learn that Dizzee's real name is Dylan Mills?

― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 12 June 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"shop in holloway"

pure groove?
home of locked on?

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

so who is the girl in "i luv you" she rules and what is the liklihood of hearing her again?

― james (james), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

if anyone's interested (like how couldya not be), there's a female answer record to "I Luv You" by Shisty - you can hear it on Femme Fatale's archived June 14th show on 1xtra:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tracklistings/femmefatale/femmetracks.shtml

hurry, though, her next show replaces it this Sat June 21st. although I expect this won't be the last we hear of the track.

― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

dizzee rascal is fuckin ace! es buff n da album is heavy =p

― Holly, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

now that is an address.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Just listening to Thugged Out by Noreaga featuring Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott as produced by Swizz Beatz om Nore's 1999 album Melvin Flynt - Da Hustler, I can't help but notice the influence this record must have had on fifteen-year-old Dizzee.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, it's actually called Wethuggedout.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

dizzie rascal is the bomb and is gonna be around for some time ithink

― tommy boy, Monday, 29 September 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I Luv "I Luv U II" even more.

― adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread's historic!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

chicken and beer

― adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

has it really been over a year?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I read your initial post and decided that, in a parallel universe, "grub":the genre is rocking pirate stations and Lapp-raves from Watford to Brighton.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel a bit nostalgic for october 2002 now.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

oh what might've been adam, oh what might've been

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:54 (twenty-two years ago)

FWIW, the Matador street team have apparently been putting Dizzee Rascal stickers in selected New York locations where smart young things gather. I'm excited.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 1 February 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

haha 'el-p style'...

― prima fassy (bob), Sunday, 1 February 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, that is a weird "first thing to come to mind" comparison (how about like every third disco track ever?).

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 1 February 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Dizee Rascal iz da best mc eva in da whole wi worl dey r da bomb buzzin 2 da max

― Emma, Saturday, 27 March 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

After seeing his show, I'd have to put him in the top 20.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...

in the tune "i luv u" what does the lyric "captain rusko with a crowbow mean"???

― JzD, Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Semi revive to ask, anyone found a decent version of Take Time yet?

― minolta (minolta), Sunday, 9 May 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...

why. don't. you. check. the. other. threads
-- zemko (giaou...) (webmail), January 6th, 2003 3:20 AM. (bob) (link)

this wasn't the first dizzee thread?

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

this wasn't the first dizzee thread. december 22nd. on point!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

wow embarrased to read my first ever ilm post. that dk post is great as well.

― scg, Monday, 28 February 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread makes me really sad for some reason. i think maybe it's the gabba link?

also, whatever happened to zemko? i'm pretty sure he despised me but it was good to have his knowledge around nonetheless.

also, i am really pushing for "grubby" huh? i like sterling's "blipment" coinage too.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

hold tight private pytlik.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

zemko still exists in varius guises
check the grime thread
the email gives it away

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

we like zemko

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

he's a spiffy dresser

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the innocence of this thread, like everyone's just fumbling around trying to find their way before this massive critical consensus emerged.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

i luv u is still uber classic but it doesnt sound as amazing now as it did in 2002. i mean that was inevitable of course, but as a song im not sure it still sounds as impressive. the verses dont all stick to the topic and the last verse (which i think was only added later for the album if memory serves me right) sounds like a freestyle verse from a totally diff song. the beat is still quite astonishing though.

the slowed down remix is still a bit corny though. too sickly sweet.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

i think its just that there isnt much depth to this and the verses sound like theyre all from different vaguely-girl related songs...

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Jezebel" is miles better.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

ahhhh zemko

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.piccadillyhotel.net/hostel-london-images/big_ben_london_hostels.jpg

― tsk. (mwah), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

ONE OF USTHEM

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

wow the nostalgic rush of 2003

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

anyways

this is still one of the great songs

and with its remix, one of the great 1-2s

they both say the same thing you see

i'm not hearing anything against them today.

― tsk. (mwah), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

This song is considerably less interesting without the female counterpoint, as I discovered when I saw him a couple of years ago; in this incarnation it was really Showtime's "Girls." Still a terrific debut album.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

zemko otm

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

showtime's girls is BRILLIANT except it gets spoiled by marga man.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

zemko otm. bizarrely we listened to this on boxing day and my parents were really feeling it! crazy.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 26 January 2007 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

you know, i haven't listened to either dizzee album in some time but this fuckin song

― strongohulkington, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

it will stand the test of time AND space

― strongohulkington, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

c. sinker

― strongohulkington, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

what are the essential remixes/versions? I deleted all of them on accident.

― Steve Shasta, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

man, this thread

― ^@^, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

I only bought Boy In Da Corner about five months ago so I've actually been playing the shit out of the whole thing. SO SO SO SO GOOD.

"Wot U On" and "Jezebel" are my new anthems.

― HI DERE, Monday, 21 May 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

wot

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Monday, 21 May 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

i keep going back to 'stop dat' these days for some reason

― lex pretend, Monday, 21 May 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

stop dat i listen to over and over when im angry on london transport and hate everyone.

this album is still brilliant. i skip fix up look sharp though for grime purist reasons lol.

anyone else but me get annoyed at the fact the album version of i luv u has an extra verse at the end?

― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 21 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

shameless selfpromotion

― Siegbran, Monday, 21 May 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

ah i loved that!!! thanks, my mp3 had got lost in the great computer changeover.

does it actually exist in a better bitrate btw?

― lex pretend, Monday, 21 May 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

also: yup, still got 'i luv u' off by heart

― lex pretend, Monday, 21 May 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

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