I miss Lee Mavers.

i miss krome & time...

I've got a couple of the field mice songs, is the Saint Etienne cover different from the original? Yeah....alot of music is very sixties influenced. the only bands that arent: boards of canada...but even what I like to think are 'cutting edge' (said in cocaine edgy voice) super furry animals, etc.....take the best pastiches of the sixties and makes something new and different. But really, it's all rock and roll, guitars, bass, drums...what is teh big deal?

the best quote, that I shall misquote, is the singer from the beachwood sparks...

'yeah...but david crosby didnt grow up listening to sonic youth and dinosaur jr....'

true..very true...

The Field Mice had a few 60's tinged songs, but there was always much more to them than that. Moreover, I don't think they were consciously trying to rekindle the 60's vibe the way The La's were - Bob Wratten just writes that way. Plus they appealed to a considerably different crowd to The La's, who (through no fault of their own, I guarantee it - it's more Oasis' fault than anything) somehow fell into the whole dadrock thing. After they split up though, so they weren't trying to appeal to that audience (like the awful Ocean Colour Scene and the aforementioned Cast)

Anyway... that said, I actually prefer Trembling Blue Stars, who sound much different. I'm probably the only person on the planet who prefers Trembling Blue Stars to the Field Mice, but there you go.

And yes, my club is called 'Strange Fruit'. Off-kilter indie, post- rock and eclectica. We don't play The La's very often (if ever), we do play lots of Field Mice. And we've played Michael Head once, I think. Though not for people to dance to. Nothing like a quick plug...

Now, if only Lee Majors would come to the club. That'd be really something... Entry £4, £3 with flyer, $6m with bionic limbs...

but really, who is remembered as the genius? the field mice or lee mavers?

The original 'Kiss and Make Up' is poppier and bouncier than the St. Etienne version, btw.

Who is remembered as the genius? That *really* depends who you ask. I could fill a room with people who think Bob Wratten is a genius, and I could fill another with Lee Mavers fans. Very subjective.

Field Mice, like, duh!

"There She Goes" was a nice song for the Boo Radleys to cover. The end.

I like Cast better, for heaven's sake. And I don't like Cast much at all!

Myth of Lee Mavers = wank material for those who keep crying they were born too late, and should have been alive during the time when they could have been shipped off to Vietnam. Thanks, I'll take the present with all its own faults...

Side topic:

Who is the new Tom Waits/Bruce Springsteen. I'm wagering Ed Harcourt and/or Sparklehorse.

I do not know enough about field mice to really comment but Lee Mavers comes on like the mahalia jackson of rock and roll. Field Mice whinged like the city/amen corner to me.

i always thought krome was the genius, but time definitely contributed in his own way too

I'm not aboout to trust a gentlemen's opinion of music when he goes on ad nauseum about chapterhouse.

arrgghh...

new tom waits=bogdan raczynski
new bruce springsteen=don't give a fuck
ed harcourt and sparklehorse=indie, ugh, shudder...

sparklehorse and ed harcourt are hardly arrgghh rock.

and if you don't care about bruce sprinsteen, sir, man o man....you really don't know rock and roll!

A whole room full of Lee Majors fans would be fantastic!!! How about a convention? We could sell out a stadium, easily!

How about a convention of Lollies fans? That would be what? Ten/Twenty people. We can have it in my back garden!

dude, i already told you, i don't know anything about rock'n'roll...

I don't care about rock and roll. Hurrah! New Sparklehorse album's rather good though.

Heavenly Records: Search and/or Destroy.

What do you think?

Last time I saw the Lollies, they sold out the Spitz. Last time I saw the Trembling Blue Stars, they filled the Garage. (Was that a Strange Fruit night? Good club you run, Paul!)

And Heavenly records have what to do with the Field Mice or The Las? IIRC, they were on Sarah, K in the States. Maybe you're on about St. Etienne?

Goddamn it doom-petrol, you make me embarrassed to love Bruce.

Mavers snorts and sucks like an ignorant child: talent without discipline is useless. 8 good tunes and a drugs habit a genius doesn't make, just a VICTIM. Sooo dull idiot pop like everything on fucking Poptones. Oh by the way, they've ditched that Flowered Up bloke. Ping Pong Bitches! JANUARY! my god they sound like they've all got Monkey headbands on, torturing them into creating something ever- more banal. That stuff sounds like jimmy saville, fully bejewelled having an asthma attack. Fuck it all off, why don't you?

wow, i guess this is where it turns into a flame war eh? well see's you all later i'm leaving work in 5 minutes to put in some quality drinking time. bogdan yay, indierock nay...

54 posts in an hour! Blimey DP you've not lost your touch.

No, as only 22 of them (see? 22s!) were actually his. In the old days, a 54 post thread would contain at *least* 42 of his. He's slipping. Not even as productive as Ally, honestly.

Didnt know that they dropped Liam Maher??? That's odd...............

Or maybe not so odd. Nah....you are picking on the wrong bands. Poptones is shaping up to be a good label. Bellrays/Hives/Cosmic Rough Riders/French Kicks/Thomson/Trashmonk.

So...I still stand firm on that.

Shame about Liam even if it's still true.

And I'm a huge boss fan. Can see some points, but it's the tradegies in rock and roll that are more interesting and the songs are there, but different formats. If you bother to actually track down the demos you will see where it goes...

Heavenly? Why Heavenly? Fits in, really. I think they are the forgotten label. Some good stuff on Heavenly. Flowered Up/Saint Etienne/Dot Allison/Doves/Ed Harcourt/Rockingbirds....a quiet good label.

Was interested in others thoughts on that.

And thank you Tom. I have an uncanny knack for making people irate. Doesnt bother me. I think it's good. Passion and all that.

Agreed re: Poptones. People should remember how long it took Creation to get into their stride. At least McGee still has the courage to sign bands on taste rather than financial grounds.

Rockingbirds are another great lost band... Alan Tyler does a club in London on Sundays playing country music in the afternoon, very good, I saw the Moore Brothers there. Heavenly were another label with attitude rather than just commerce at its core. As always, I recommend the David Cavanagh book on Creation as the ultimate insight into 80's/90's indie labels in the UK.

Squished by calmness - I was all geared up for the explosion, nicely done Sir.

Another point in Poptones favour was last time I was at Radio 4 DJ dropped Born To Run about 2 minutes before Magoo got onstage and it was a moment in paradise - never heard it in a London club before.

the moore brothers! christ almighty, I've been trying to find that album for ages now, and I have had no success.

has anyone heard the great lakes new album? I was going to get it last night but was talked out of it but the record store guy, whose opinion that i usually respect. suppose i was going to get it just cause it was on track and field and usually, I like to follow labels and what not.....

what label is the moore brothers on.

yeah, I really love heavenly. heavenly/creation...those labels are usually assured of a certain degree of quality. like motown or stax.

yeah, poptones was shaky but it takes time to build a label up.

I wonder if there is anymore Lee Mavers out there? The closer thing that I can think of is The Stairs. But he's in a band now isnt he?

I'm not quite sure who you mean, but the stairs certainly rocked 10x harder than the las ever did. I think the second la's long-player would have been a concept album about a giant armadillo-tank, and all of the strange mecha-dinosaur creatures it destroys with its mighty booming cannon. They'd have forsworn the 60's based jangle guitar sound for moog 3c modular synthesisers and virtuoso hammond organ playing. Live, the hammond organ would have had knives stuck into it at the end of the outrageous solo at thee end of their set. Shame they never kept it together. "History" would have remembered them very differently....

x0x0

aagh, i'm still here at work. need to leave and get beer immediately. small question re: poptones. is beardy hindle still involved with them??

Dunno Gareth. Off you go, though, get that beer, it's bloody hot in Canada....wish I was going for one right now.

Chris, where did you hear that Liam Maher got dropped?????? That's sort of sad, really. More ways than one!!! I was looking forward to the recordings that he did for poptones.

The Stairs: Fantastic band. I lent my cd out and never got it returned but the record store has a bargain bin tape of the stairs and I was staring at hundreds of tapes and thought better of it, gtrrrr....wish i would have got it when it was still there. Oh well.

Thanks Colin! The Trembling Blue Stars night was indeed a Strange Fruit night, as was The Lollies night at The Spitz. And yes, both sold out! Check our website at www.strange-fruit.co.uk for details of what we're up to. We're doing at least two to three things a month now, so it's pretty exciting. And everyone keeps mentioning French Kicks: they're playing their first ever UK date at our club on October 13.

As for Liam Maher. Poptones didn't drop him: he decided he no longer wanted to be with Poptones. So he kept the advance and left the label, keeping the rights to all his recordings. I thought McGee and Poptones would fight it, and ask for the recordings, but there was no legal challenge whatsoever. In all honesty, I think McGee's being a bit foolish financially, but if he can afford it then what the heck.

Poptones is beyond shakey. Alan McGee is so full of the fact that he's been given millions of pounds (by the royal family, no less) that he is throwing money around like he's the Robin Hood of shite ex-wannabes like that bloke out of Flowered Up. (If he wanted to give the man a million pounds, why didn't he just give him a million pounds, instead of going through the pretense of signing him, then having him say "no, I don't feel like being on your label, thank you" and walk away with the money)

Besides, how much of Poptone's (and indeed, Creation's) roster is actually down to McGee? I heard from a reliable source that all the recent Californian sunshine pop is down to the influence of one Joe Foster. In fact, wasn't most of the A&R successes of Creation down to the Other One, that one that split off to form Witchata, or whatever the label is called? Some of the most challenging music to come out of Creation (Boo Radleys?) was hated by Mr. McGee.

I have yet to hear anything on Poptones that isn't complete and total shite. Captain Soul (not to single them out or anything) have done me the displeasure of ruining two of my favourite club nights in London in the past few months. And really, come to think of it, is importing a gang of existing bands over from the States rather than developing local talent really the mark of such a healthy label? Or is it because Americans are the only nation foolish enough to still buy into the Cult Of Personality following McGee?

Oh well, I really should follow Gareth off down the pub.

I gather Lee Mavers thought the La's album was pretty shoddy. I can only agree.

Nah...

I think that Alan McGee actually cares about the artists involved. It's not a commence business for him. It's just a love of music.

It's too bad, cause poptones gave Liam the foot in the door back into the music business. That's how I see it.

I mean, he got the rights from the trashmonk album back from sony and gave the album back to Nick Claird Lowes....so trashmonk now owns mona lisa overdrive.

I mean, that man could have went and signed courtney love/morrissey/shane mcgowan but instead is doing it all from scatch with unknown bands. That is a demented love of rock and roll.

You have to respect that.

I mean, that man could have went and signed courtney love/morrissey/shane mcgowan but instead is doing it all from scatch with unknown bands.

Unknown bands, like the singer out of Flowered Up, and the guitarist out of Elastica, and importing a load of already established bands from the States in the UK? Really pro-unknown bands move there.

Captain Soul *are* very nice people though. Not my cup of tea, but very nice if you meet them.

And yes, Poptones has an ace A&R chap in the States responsible for many of the best signings. McGee doesn't get involved until later.

Should also point out that Poptones has not signed French Kicks, they have got a licence to release their mini-album, already available in the US on Star Time Records. The credit for finding and signing French Kicks has to go to a chap called Isaac Green, who runs Startime. Poptones were just the successful bidder for the record.

yeah, poptones was shaky but it takes time to build a label up.

In terms of getting the label onto a firm financial footing, undoubtedly, but in terms of getting it to the point where it starts releasing decent music, I'd have to disagree. Just look at Too Pure, Blast First or Warp. All three had already put out at least one great record by their 10th release. Mind you, they were all started by enthusiasts, people who discovered something good and wanted other people to discover it in turn, unlike poptones, which seems to exist solely because Alan McGee needs to run a record label.

Really, Colin....

Poptones is a different label. And I definitely don't think it's beyond shaky. I think that Creation was made up definitely of Joe Foster/Alan McGee/Dick Green.

I mean, if you are going to look at Wichita, from my point of view, they have Bright Eyes/Pattern/Brave Captain but they also have Ruby and Her Space Holiday whom I find boring.

The Captain Soul album would have made a fantastic ep but not an album.....

But the things coming up and down the turnpike are shaping up. La Volume Courbe/Hives/Thomson...even the new Arnold album rocks mightily.

It's an interesting label. A label that pits gnac (whom are fantastic.....) against cosmic rough riders against tasha lee (a heavenly girl signing)....

It's just good.

What I don't get is: Poptones is able to give these artists who deserve to be heard, more exposure.

What is wrong with that? I mean, really..........................

Tell me what is terrible with that?

As a *fan* of music, I find it to be interesting to watch that label on the rise.

Kate has a good point here. The majority of Poptones' successful signings have been licence deals from other labels or signing of artists from other bands. The label is not really jumping into the unknown or anything like that. Same with Track and Field Records: they have licenced or got the distribution rights for Great Lakes, Dressy Bessy, The Tyde and so on. They've been burned a few times by releasing records from relative unknowns (Kicker) which, whilst good, were not big sellers.

The difference is that Track and Field is a tiny label with very little money, bringing records they like from the US and giving them distribution in the UK. They can't afford to lose money, so even this is risky for them. And you have to admire them for it. Poptones, as the Liam incident proves, can happily lose loads of money at the drop of a hat, but still often opts for licensing which for them is a safe option.

Mind you, they were all started by enthusiasts, people who discovered something good and wanted other people to discover it in turn, unlike poptones, which seems to exist solely because Alan McGee needs to run a record label.

Maybe from your point of view...but I thought the too pure release were a bit shoddy at first. And you are wrong good sir, in actually meeting Alan, it's a love of music that runs that label. If it was done for regonition or financial gain, it would have folded up by now, do you not think?

Thomson rocks by the way.

So really, essentially, the reason why Poptones is a terrible label is because they have money to license records and bring exposure to independant artists.

If I was an independant artist, I think that I would like to sign to a label which would have money behind it to push my record and give me freedom (as shown in the liam maher and trashmonk and even velvet crush incidents)....

Wichita has also licensed established US artists as well: The Pattern and Bright Eyes. Both of whom I would not have heard from if I wasnt interested in the Wichita label.

Same with Poptones....

I never said Poptones was a terrible label. I quite like a lot of the stuff they release. I was just comparing the huge financial power of Poptones with the hundreds of tiny labels I deal with every day.

In my opinion, I think Poptones is just Alan McGee's way of spending the vast amounts of money he's made from Creation on something he enjoys. And whether you like what he's doing will depend on whether you like McGee's taste in artists. I do think, however, that if the label did not have vast amounts of money, and was like, say, Bad Jazz, EvilWorld, Fortuna Pop!, or Wurlitzer Jukebox (remember them) then Poptones would have collapsed by now.

No, the reason that Poptones is a terrible label is because the vast majority of their artists are mediocre shite, and the few artists that are not mediocre shite are not bands they bothered to discover at all, but cash cows that they are buying off other established labels. Nice to know that they are as unadventurous and safe in their economic plans as they are in their taste in music.

And doompatrol, you seem to have a worrying obsession with Mr. McGee. Do you work for Poptones, or are you just in indieboy love?

No, not an indie boy in love. I love music. Naturally I seem to have picked up alot of connections with various labels and stuff. I mean, I've got an enormous amount of vinyl and cds. I like to think I know my music and have been collecting since I was 11 (butthole surfers/bob dylan/big black)......

I find labels interesting......same with track and field, poptones, etc..etc...

But the thing is Paul, being a music obsessive, I will go to great lengths to track down other artists. Poptones/Wichita/Heavenly....I have started to listen to music from track and field/saddle creek etc..etc...

Same with the radio four clubs, if I go, because I enjoy the radio four djs and I happen to see a band like the constantines/beachwood sparks/the tyde...I will go out of my way and find that music.

I think it's a beneficial eco-system. If a label like poptones or wichita license from a smaller label, they are putting cash in that label's pocket to go out and find and fund more indepedent artists.

I do not think that is a terrible thing.

Mediocre shit?

Hardly.

Gnac/La Volume Courbe/Thomson/Hives/Cosmics

Are all fantastic signings.

By the way:

What do people think of the new Sparklehorse. Did the guest spots help or hinder???

Gnac are indeed very fine. I don't believe for a minute that you'd listen to them if they weren't on Poptones, but then I don't believe for a minute you're a real person anyway...

Maybe I'm not a real person.

Hahahah!

By the way "ned" ... you have never seen the immense enormity of my music collection. And I have all of the gnac stuff before they were signed. Hmmmmmmmmmm....................sorry to disappoint you.

I was wondering how pathetic you would finally turn out to be, and frankly I think that last attempt at trying to impress me did the trick. Feeding your size-obsessed ego is not on my list of things to do, thanks.

Why are you calling me pathetic?

I had an enjoyable afternoon discussing music. What was pathetic about that? By the way, size is not an issue. Well, maybe, hahahahaa...I really have no worries concerning that.

; - )

love out.

ty.

whyat a bunch of pricks, i cant believe how sad you are. got no freinds. awwww.

go make bombs instead, maybe you'll kill yo freindless asses and do us all a favour.

suckers

So far my favorite phrase from the referenced thread is, "Kis my arse cunt rag". The lack of punctuation lets me happily imgaine that this person was calling someone an arse cunt. I'm very easy to amuse...

Oh, is that a link to the anarchist forum? Bloody anarchists.
I don't like the La's, never have and probably never will.
Does anyone else here, after reading 'doompatrol's posts, feel like destroying their entire record collection and erasing all trace of music from their memory? I do.

gnac is a bit dull, but montgolfier brothers are splendid. other than that poptones is a disaster, even if they do release kevin shields records secretly. track and field is not all that great either, ah, but i do like screen prints very much. bob wratten is a genius, all heart. bright eyes is hardly an established us act, he is big among the 14 year old make-out club obsessive type crowd because he is "deep" and cries loads. but then bob wratten is a big sissy too so i am a hypocrite. i prefer trembling blue stars over the field mice as well, her handwriting*sigh*.

Wow. Man o man. What's it like being bitter and english?

Very very sad.

Bye.

Doom/Paul: Wow. Man o man. What's it like being bitter and english?

it's fucking great. I love it.

hugz 'n' kissez

I like all the gnac tracks I have on compilations (Darla comps and the Tell-Tale Signs Of Earworm double-cd), so I picked up the album, which is very dull indeed. None of the spaced-out droney loveliness of the Darla/Earworm stuff, just plodding acoustic folky tweeness which did nothing for me. And I bought that Volume Courbe single after seeing a ridiculously glowing review of it somewhere which described it as a cross between Stereolab, MBV and Autechre or something similarly enticing and inaccurate and, hm, I think it may be the worst 7" I've ever spent money on. I can't offer any in-depth criticism of it as I seem to have blanked it out of my memory, but it was ten minutes of pots being banged and somebody thinking, "Heh heh heh, Alan McGee is paying for my studio time and I can make a pretentious racket knowing that everyone will fawn over it because I have a French name, how cool am I?" I really hope that the rumours that it was Kevin Shields were false.

The Beach Buggy album is quite cool though. It's a lot closer to capturing the rawness of their live show than the previous album I bought after seeing them live last year, as you might expect from something produced - uhm, sorry, recorded - by Steve Albini. In some ways it's just another Pixies clone and it all gets pretty samey after a few tracks but all of the tracks are fairly good in their own right, imho. It also reminds me a lot of Mclusky, and now I'm thinking that if they weren't too pop for him Mclusky produced by Albini might sound very good indeed. Plus he might manage to dissuade them from writing lyrics about liberals on roller-skates in the city park or whatever it was.

Anyway, the Beach Buggy album is probably the best thing I've heard on Poptones yet, although I haven't heard whatever they've released by Oranger yet (I quite liked the single I bought by them last year, although it might have got annoying by now in the same way that I liked the last Apples in Stereo album - which to my mind is similar - last year but now every time songs from it pop up on my winamp playlist I get very tempted to throw the computer out of the nearest window. Still, despite five years of evidence to the contrary, I stick to the belief that Scott Kannberg has good taste and judgement musically...). Poptones is a definite case of quantity over quality, throwing hundreds of bands into studios and releasing hundreds of 7"s every week in the hope that some of it might be worth listening to. On the other hand, it's good to see that they are releasing some stuff by relatively unknown bands, and at least the cd albums are cheap. And the albums mostly don't have that vile green and white colour scheme of the singles, mercifully.

I ramble on too much and talk about indie too much. Sorry. To echo Christopher's sentiments from another thread, if anyone doesn't want me here then drop me an email telling me so and I won't be offended and will leave you in peace. See, I'm not quite sure whether my ILM email update subscriptions died a few times as a hint that I'm not wanted or just because something's broken somewhere along the line. Still, since I'm mostly a lurker by nature (translation: not having anything worthwhile to say ever, but forgetting that occasionally), most of you would probably be hard-pushed to tell the difference.

Heh heh. Boss gone home early, office to myself, the afore-mentioned BB album in the cd-rom drive, and vast amounts of caffeine in the bloodstream. Rawk! Er, sorry, I'll calm down in a bit, honest.

Rebecca, you've made a very thoughtful and interesting contribution to a thread which was otherwise a flamepit waste of time! Thank you for that. Erm... BTW, I believe Chris was addressing his apology or whatever to me, as we know each other quite well off-board. (I don't know why he would think that I wouldn't welcome his presence online as well as in real life?) But anyway, I just wanted to say welcome, or welcome back as the case may be, and please continue to contribute your intelligent and thoughtful ramblings, they are much needed!

Oops. I *do* go on too much. Sorry about that ridiculously long and skullcrushingly tedious post. Will attempt to reacquaint myself with the concept of brevity (not one I'm very familiar with, physical stature aside. Perhaps I'm trying to make up for being shorter than the average amoeba by being unable to condense a single pointless rant into any less than a thousand words or so. Sorry...).

Kickin' back is a strong of immense rocket from the crypt/pixies/soul enormity.

I liked the La Volume Courbe single......................enchanting really.

Masonic boom, you are bitter and very bossy. If you don't like this thread, get off of it?

incidentally, i saw beach buggy play in the back of a van outside a pavement gig at leeds met university once. i also like hats.

Because, doompatrol, watching you compulsively make an arse of yourself in public is the internet equivalent of watching the more outrageous Jerry Springer guests boasting about marrying their cousins- highly entertaining.

And just occasionally, someone like Rebecca or Chris gets an interesting word in edgewise.

oh, and rebecca? long posts rule. gnac? which album is that, the one on rocket girl, whats it called, um, Sevens? i quite like it, not amazing or anything, but has some nice moments. whats happened to rocket girl by the way, i've been disappointed by recent releases.

listen baby...

that is not the case. i'm just here to talk to some people who have a mutual love of music.

if you don't like it.

l.e.a.v.e.

I don't miss Lee Mavers, but - well, I think it's sad when someone Loses It or disappears. And I think he had a sublime moment or two.

I do agree...

I find it hard to listen to some of the Syd Barrett bootlegs that I have. It's someone have a life breakdown and feels morbid. The sound of someone who doesnt know what he is sharing.

The demos and the live tapes I have of the la's are interesting and do provide sublime moments.

Funny, I thought you were here to "play devils advocate" and talk about Alan McGee's cock size.

ps. I was talking about my size. Since you asked....and was so curious.

hahahaha....

whatever. Oooo....what a terrible thing to say Colin. Rather boring, considering you would never say such things face to face. Me? I would.

There is a difference.

Anyways....

Great Lakes has anyone heard of them?

Yes. A bit wet, I hear.

The difference is, Doom, that I masturbate in private while you wank your little teenage fantasies about Alan McGee all over this board in public. Not getting enough attention from your wife at home that you can't stay away from this board?

OOoooo....so very witty. Are you sure you don't write Carry On films.

Now there's an idea... I wonder if I can sell "Carry On Creation" to the BBC? Starring Doom, of course.

Lou Ferringo was The Incredible Hulk. Green skin, like Kermit.

What, no witty riposte? Go on, it's been all of 30 seconds! Surely your vastly superior Canadian wit and intellect and of course, supreme sweetness and non-bitterness could surely slay us all! Hit me with your best shot!

i'm bored of this now, can't we talk aboutuk garage instead?

wow, i'm like nicky d, bringing the blue lines...

DaRL!NG DooMPauL SeZ:

Great Lakes has anyone heard of them?

I've heard of Greg Lake

Will that do?

xoxo

Hey I miss him as well.

Lee Mavers is a mystical bizarre mersey superstar.

doompatrol: Great Lakes has anyone heard of them?
Norman Fay: I've heard of Greg Lake. Will that do?

And I've heard of Kirk Lake. Perhaps the Great Lakes are a supergroup comprised of Greg and Kirk?

Nah. Great lakes recently got reissued on track and field. Country/Mamas and the Papas/Beachwood Sparks sort of band.

Any thoughts on the Clientele?

somebody chatted someone up once, then passed a tape of a band to a club manager, the club manager thought the band was shite and never put them on the club night and now everyone involved is utterly hated by the somebody...

who is the somebody?

Surely not... LEE MAVERS!!!

Go on, oh namedropper supreme, do tell us.

I think thee answer is at the end ov thee "eagle" thread, colin. I'm sure U'l be amazed at who he seems to be referring to. Dear Lord......(sigh)

xoxo

I was going to be discreet but even *I* get tired about being attacked all of the time. It's boring as well. I went out of my way to avoid attacking back. But what can I say? Be vicious to me, I'll be vicious back. Bored of I LOVE MUSIC anyways...

So don't sigh at me.

Just having my own back.

dude, you won't leave I Love Music. you love it here, you post even more than me! anyway i don't think yr that bad, a touch aggressive and macho, but so what?

that time when you threatened to ruin robins 'career'? man, that rocked. could you do that again?

I was being ironic gareth....and well, just having some fun.........after watching kevin spacey in swimming with sharks......

i'm just agressive cause i get attacked all of the time even when I'm chilling out and talking about music.

No, doom, you can just dish it out but you can't take it. You won't ever leave, you just make these childish little "oh, you're going to miss me when I'm gone" huffs out of the room, then get upset when no one ever does miss you.

You don't ever actually realise that it is actually FUN watching how predictably wound up you get about everything.

I don't get upset. O.k., people who have no conviction upset me but that is half of the human race, including you. Please can we stop this, it's boring for the others on the board.

PS. I was having fun....

Oh, what, have you run out of steam? Have I actually out-Doompatrolled doompatrol? What is that I hear, "uncle, uncle... quit it"?

I'm off to Oxford to hang with the ILM posse at Sussed, so if I don't write you lovenotes back, Doom, it's not cause I don't care. XOXOXO, kisses to my biggest fan.

you are the equivalent of the school yard bully. it's rather amusing for me.

hahahaha...

oh well, can't win them all. go and hang out with your 'posse'....

hahahaha...

you are the equivalent of the school yard bully.

Takes one to know one, doesn't it?

I guess that you're just jealous that I actually have friends who want me around, while you have to make do with your little fantasies that Alan McGee even remembers who you are.

Oh no...

Actually, I was hanging out with him last night....

What's the matter????

I know alot of people in that nasty snake pit business called the music industry but I have no desire to ever join it...

good spin doctoring kate...

avoid the honest truth of what I said but throwing more insults my way.

you are good at spreading hatred. maybe a new career in progandhi?

Oh no... Actually, I was hanging out with him last night....

So who hung the lowest, then?

bwaHaHahAhA

*cough*

*snort*

-*ack*

kiss kiss

"Hanging Out With Halo Jones": Classic or Dud?

for the cheeky jokes: classic...

for the distressing prog rock keyboard solos: dud...

he still seems to have the urge to do it.....just always falls short or loses interest in it......he regularly poaches members of young new local bands in liverpool, rehearses and jams songs with them then at the last moment scraps the idea........hopefully a band will eventually emerge.......i think the cammy/neil/lee lineup would reform with maybe edgar summertyme on bass......he'd do it i imagine............

the demos are stunning....................theres lots more than just the LP if you dig about in the right bootleg circles........

James

Yep James, I agree.. and they're out on official sources.. ;)

A board for people to witter on about Lee..

http://pub66.ezboard.com/bthelas

La'zarus

http://www.geocities.com/The_Las

(half the links are dead, but hey, that's half the fun..)

doompatrol < how are things, fine thread you have here.. ;)))

Aww come on people - The fiedl mice were just cool, Trembling Blue stars are heavenly ( well okay heavenly were another cool band, do marine research cut it ?). Ahh but Lee Mavers - the guy who never uttered a word to me when I sneaked into their dressing room ? The La's had soul running through every single note they played. All this talk of bootlegs - can someone point me in the right direction ? I've got a couple of gigs, a live video and the album/singles. The bastard at NME (andrew collins , if you're listening) wouldn't send me the tape the la's did for him even though he said in his article he'd send it to anyone he wrote.

Shack ? Excellent ! But surely THEY are the biggest smack band ??

Demos / bootlegs - please let me know !

Surj

do you still miss him?

i've decided i don't like the la's - mediocre tunes, boring retro stylings. not much better than cast, really, and miles behind shack. i wonder what doom-e will say...