I nominate AC/DC's "You Shook Me All Night Long" - everyone loves that one, yet it doesn't get enough praise to fall victim to an anti-canonic backlash.
Anybody who dislikes any of the proposed consensus songs, make yourself heard !
― Patrick, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthony, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Josh, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― duane, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mark, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― fritz, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― youn, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthony, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
In other words, find a song from Sheffield that everybody on ILM likes.
― Dr. C, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Seeing that nobody voted dud in Kraftwerk C-o-D it must be Kraftwerk. "The Model" then?
other:
Pixies - 'Debaser'?
― Omar, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Um - 'Maple Leaf Rag'.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tanya, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― duane, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Bill
― Bill, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― masonic boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Or else something by Dio.
― mark s, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― tarden, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I got it! One of these must be universally liked:
'Staying Alive', 'I Feel Love', and hell even the most rockist of rockers loves 'Le Freak', yes?
i have one : Ring Of Fire
another: Ace of Spades.
Has anyone disliked Waterloo Sunset yet? I by no means think it's great but it's quite a pleasant listen, so that may be our best bet.
― Tom, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gareth, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Missus Mo, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I still back Tom E on the Kinks. People that don't like it can resign. I like 'Wichita Lineman' too, though, like everybody else.
'Rattlesnakes'. 'Are You Ready To Be Heartbroken?'.
Infact i am willing to bet a years worth of G&T's on the outcome.
I'm glad you don't mean it when you say we don't know country music (if that's what you're saying; it can be hard to tell). I mean, Tim Hopkins is reading this. Possibly.
I'll nix both 'Waterloo Sunshite' and 'Candy Says'...sorry.
Okay another path, how about Blondie - Heart of Glass. Surely anyone who does not like this song also has no soul, yeah? And if that does not work we'll have to pull out the big one, yep, ABBA.
'Tears of a Clown' is a yes btw.
'Heart Of Glass' is acceptable but not my favourite Blondie.
I don't think that that was the real fake Tanya Headon above - rather a fake fake one. Right?
Tanya - Okay, songs enjoyed by all ILMers who aren't professed music- haters then :).
Masonic Kate - oh, it would be fairly easy to find a performer no one here likes, I think. I don't think anyone has yet found a way to rehabilitate Michael Bolton.
― Patrick, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
As for 'Heart of Glass', without being able to see Debbie Harry her voice is far too annoying.
I back 'Waterloo Sunset', but some miserable bugger has already scuppered that I believe. So I'll have to canvas opinion for 'Hi-Ho Silver Lining'. What a stomper! Or failing that, 'Sunday Morning' by the Velvets. Possibly.
― Add, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
again with the disco, I fear
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Or "Rebel Rebel"?
Or something by Meatloaf...
What about The Magic Number by DeLa Soul? Or Sitting On The Dock of the Bay? Or The Man Don't Give A Fuck by SFA?
I veto all Kraftwerk records.
― Matt D'Cruz, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
But, Boney M = excellent choice!
― Geoff, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Rebel Rebel is 6 out of 10 but 6 in this case is enough.
"Surfin Bird"?
And yes, 'Rasputin' is silly, that's the bleedin' point...jeez, a black guy sporting an afro with a fake beard doing a russian dance isn't exactly Tolstoy, innit? ;)
― scott, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Yet to elicit any complaints: "Louie Louie", "Let's Stay Together", "Bring The Noise", "Don't You Want Me", "Common People", "Love Hangover" and "Theme From Mahogany" (unless they're on Motown, in which case Omar says nay), "Upside Down", "Ace Of Spades", "Unfinished Sympathy", "Rockafeller Skank", "Rasputin" and "Rebel Rebel" (I have chosen not to read anything into Pinefox's "ouch" comment).
Nixed on account of not famous enough: "The Man Don't Give A Fuck", "Out Of Space", "Hi-Ho Silver Lining", "Walter Carlos", "Are You Ready To Be Heartbroken", "Rattlesnakes" and "Maple Leaf Rag".
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
And ahem...I'll say all of Motown except Smokey Robinson.
How about these boots are made for walking
― X. Y. Zedd, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
...anyone?
― JM, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
1. My 'ouch' comment meant: I don't like this '"dance" 'music' "stuff"' of yours.
2. 'Rattlesnakes' and 'Heartbroken?', not famous??? Who are you trying to kid? Foul on Lloyd, I say. Referee!!
If we're going to nominate an AC/DC song, it should be "Back In Black". And get that namby-pamby disco shit out of here. 10,000+ people in Old Comiskey Park burning vinyl can't be wrong.
― David Raposa, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jason, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
(sorry, these boots are covered in shite)
First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - Roberta Flack's version Buffalo Stance - Neneh Cherry Sign O The Times - Prince New England - Billy Bragg but sung by Kirsty to be on the safe side?
― chris, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Well I'm sure Lloyd Cole's mom really likes them.
So do we disqualify any and all dance music in advance, Pinefox ? That would be sad.
Incidentally, "I Melt With You" blows.
Roadrunner = no; Pablo Picasso (or whatever the name is of that song by Modern Lovers) = yes
Don't you want me = allright.
And no Beatles songs??? Am I missing something here? Granted, they'll get shot down as easily as anything else on this list. I'll pony up "I'm Only Sleeping".
And, hot damn, I DO have "Waterloo Sunset" in my mess of a music collection! (A purty song, sho nuff.) I should start spelunking for those Brian Wilson demos. You know - the RARE ones.
Maybe we'd have more luck with TV themes. how about the Buffy one?
― Graham, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
'Rattlesnakes' is not obscure. You people don't know what you're talking about. Stuart Murdoch knows it. He has it spelled out in fridge magnets.
David R: you're quite right re. Beatles. They ought to be on here, but people will always shoot them down. (Where I came in.)
― Kodanshi, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― keith, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
okay, okay last one for today:
Sly Stone - Dance to the Music or I Want To Take You Higher.
Even the most fundamentalist disco-burning rocker must like Sly. Right?
Saw that codpiece fellow @ the tail-end of the new Mariah Carey video. Still doing that juju that he do so well.
Sly Stone's offering HAS to be "Hot Fun in the Summertime". Hate him for the cocaine, hate him for the 'fro, hate him because he's beautiful, but you can't deny this song.
Is anyone tracking this bitch?
i seem to remember that even the smiths-haters liked "how soon is now?" i dissed it but more because it's not one of my favourites. i'll happily vote for it over "radioactivity" or something. i also remember nobody casting a dud vote for joy division. "transmission" maybe?
― sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kerry Keane, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
New Suggestions : Beck - Loser Nirvana - All Apologies Leonard Cohen- Chelsea Hotel Jerry Lee Lewis-High School Confidental (sp?) Madonna- Cherish Bob Dylan _ Rainy Day Woman
and Dave Suggests : Traveling Wilburys- Tweeter and the Monkey Man Janis Ian- Seventeen Joan Jett - Cherry Bomb Low-Lazer Beam
― scott p., Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
don't know if I'm more surprised by the level of consensus or some of the out of line vetoes (someone hates everything on motown? c'mon!)
we probably don't need any more nominations, but how about "be my baby" by the ronettes? can you really dislike this song?
more than happy to go along with most others esp. roadrunner, heroes, crazy, all early elvis & jerry lee, all apologies, cherry bomb.
nix on the mary poppins and melt with you & rattlesnakes (purely on the basis of it being defended because of its potential to be covered by tori amos).
― fritz, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― duane, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tom, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Beck gets shot down (just to make sure you know). No Dylan :)
Yes to: "Heroes", "Be my Baby" and hell everybody loves "Move on Up".
AS much as I love "Brown Sugar" et al. I just know Sundar is waiting to veto ;) [btw. can't anyone -you know- delete that post by that fool who nixed all of Kraftwerk, we scientifically proved that Kraftwerk is classic with no dud votes].
― Omar, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"Move On Up" - actually no - Curtis sounds like he's wheedling you into celebration. "People Get Ready" yes, though.
Not going to argue with "Be My Baby" though it's a middling Spector track for me.
Also agree with you re. the silly and overrated J Richman (what the heck is this 'Roadrunner' anyway?), will back Ronettes, am surprised at all-rock-and-roll nix. Shocked, in fact.
'Papa Don't Preach'.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I'll be waiting (and still have ace up sleeve, but someone has to keep Masonic Boom from her computer ;)
Okay new ones, since all of mine have died. Hey Mr Postman- Ronettes Leader of the Pack- Shangri Las (its John Waters favorite) Night Clubbing - Iggy Pop Blackbird- Beatles Love on a farm boys wages- XTC God save the Queen -sex pistols Rock the Casbah- The Clash
and what is the singer songwriter hatred here, Dylan,Cohen,Janis Ian grrrr
― anthony, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― duane zarakov, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Dubious on grounds of unheard by too many, unless can be proven otherwise : that Low song, "Love On A Farmboy's Wages", "Counting Backwards" (sorry again, Pinefox).
I'm strongly tempted to retaliate against Tom's nixing of all early rock and roll by dismissing all Brit indie from this thread, but I'm too much of a gentleman ;)
I think Ned needs to get his butt on here. My tastes go along with the consensus too much. By the time HE gets done with this thread, we'll be lucky if 3 songs are left standing.
― Patrick, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Patrick, thoughts on Sly Stone?
OR
'I Say a Little Prayer' - Dionne Warwick
― stevie t, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I venture: The Banana Splitz Theme Tune. Something so cheesy, how can you not love it?
― masonic boom, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gareth, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I've liked most of the songs mentioned except "You Shook Me All Night Long." SERIOUS redneck song where I come from.
How can anyone not like "Waterloo Sunset?" Or "ABC?" You haven't an ear for melody if you don't like those songs (unless you have something personal against them, as I with "You Shook Me...").
How about "Ziggy Stardust?" It has the pop hooks for the people who like that, plus it's really wierd for the people that like that.
― Blake, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Virginia Plain: yes, of course.
Gareth...is that by Nightmare on Wax? Already I hear Patrick complain Nightmare on Who? In that case: yes.
And even the cRockford Files theme had not a patch on the utter and complete BLOCKBUSTER that was the Dallas theme. Oh, the glitz, oh the glamour shining in the sunlight with those horns!
― Add, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Pearl Jam: dud. Mercury Rev: can't remember so not one of their best. Flaming Lips: dud dud dud dud dud dud. How Soon Is Now: yes but we've vetoed it already.
Shake Your Booty - KC & the Sunshine Band/Death Disco - PIL/Sh-Boom - The Chords/Boogie Wonderland - Earth, Wind & Fire/Jump Around - House of Pain/Surf City - Jan & Dean/I'm A Boy - The Who/Goin' Back - The Byrds/Higher & Higher - Jackie Wilson/Tighten Up - Archie Bell & the Drells
But would happily settle for Virginia Plain or the Rockford Files theme tune or God Save the Queen
― scott, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
No disco. Any and all disco will immediately be rejected by me. Only genre I hate worse than wibbling twee is disco.
As a sign of good will I'll free 'Papa was Rolling Stone' by Tempations from the veto.
Let's Stay Together (Al Green) Don't You Want Me Ace Of Spades Unfinished Sympathy Surfin' Bird Cum On Feel The Noize (Slade) Only Love Can Break Your Heart (Saint Etienne) These Boots Are Made For Walkin' Back In Black Buffalo Stance Sign O' The Times A New England (Kirsty MacColl) Pablo Picasso (Modern Lovers) I'm Only Sleeping (Beatles) Surrender (Cheap Trick) Honky Tonk Women God Only Knows Souvenirs (OMD) Word Up Transmission Cherry Bomb (Runaways) Crazy (Patsy Cline) Be My Baby Brown Sugar (Rolling Stones) People Get Ready (C. Mayfield) Leader Of The Pack Nightclubbing (Iggy) Blackbird (Beatles) God Save The Queen Virginia Plain Ziggy Stardust Death Disco Sh-Boom (The Chords) Jump Around Surf City I'm A Boy (The Who) Goin' Back (Byrds) Higher And Higher (J. Wilson) Tighten Up (Archie Bell)
I would suggest tearing down a couple of these before making any new suggestions :)
a. "Buffalo Stance" is being dismissed on the Neneh Cherry thread, but other threads don't count, so it stays.
b. Anthony wasn't clear about whether he thinks "Honky Tonk Women" is a dud, so it stays.
c. Surely "Death Disco" is too weird to fall under the many disco vetoes.
Also not yet dismissed : "Walk On By" and "The Look Of Love".
Junk the following: Ziggy, House of melon-farming Pain, Cameo (!?!?!), all the Stones songs mentioned to this point, Sex Pistols, Lemmy, Ms. Sinatra, "Pablo Pisacco".
I'd shoot down more, but I didn't want to be a ballhog. (Or a tugboat, for that matter.)
― David Raposa, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Geoff, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Howzabout "Ghost Town" by The Specials ?
― Nicole, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Speaking of curmudgeonly, "God Save The Queen" = completely useless song. No sir, I don't like it!
― Dan Perry, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I'd like to note that as of yet, no one has typed a single negative syllable about "Be My Baby," which my hopes here are pinned on. Honestly: how could you not like "Be My Baby?"
And well done to whoever suggested "People Get Ready," which I think will fare better here than Cat Stevens' similarly-themed "Peace Train."
― Nitsuh, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
all the other songs in patrick's list i either like (to some extent) or haven't heard. hope that helps ...
― rener, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Tom E: just don't like that song somehow... and there's other 'classic' Bacharach that doesn't do it for me either (inc. the ones you mention). BUT I'm not knocking him in general, not at all.
Patrick C: since when did anyone knock out Lloyd? Once again: foul.
Dismiss: Motorhead, Massive Attack, 'Jump Around' (aargh!).
Meta-issues of nature of this thread not yet discussed. Will return to this.
I'd love to hear about the meta-issues of the nature of this thread.
Or what about "Respect" by Aretha?
― Sean, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Be my baby = yes, just makes it because of Scorcese.
Lloyd Cole: it's bye-bye to you.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Let's Stay Together (Al Green) Don't You Want Me Surfin' Bird Only Love Can Break Your Heart (Saint Etienne) Buffalo Stance I'm Only Sleeping (Beatles) Surrender (Cheap Trick) Honky Tonk Women God Only Knows Souvenirs (OMD) Transmission Crazy (Patsy Cline) Be My Baby People Get Ready (C. Mayfield) Leader Of The Pack Virginia Plain Death Disco Sh-Boom (The Chords) Surf City I'm A Boy (The Who) Higher And Higher (J. Wilson) Tighten Up (Archie Bell) Ghost Town
― Billy Dods, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Let's Stay Together (Al Green) Don't You Want Me Surfin' Bird Only Love Can Break Your Heart (Saint Etienne) Buffalo Stance I'm Only Sleeping (Beatles) Surrender (Cheap Trick) God Only Knows Souvenirs (OMD) Transmission Cherry Bomb (Runaways) Crazy (Patsy Cline) Be My Baby People Get Ready (C. Mayfield) Leader Of The Pack Blackbird (Beatles) God Save The Queen Virginia Plain Death Disco Sh-Boom (The Chords) Surf City I'm A Boy (The Who) Goin' Back (Byrds) Higher And Higher (J. Wilson) Tighten Up (Archie Bell) Ghost Town (Specials)
(Huey Lewis' "Heart And Soul" nixed for having worst guitar solo ever, tied with "Power Of Love", also by Huey)
Feel free to shoot down the ones you dislike - you're just the man for the job ;) - and nominate other candidates for universally loved- by-ILM songs :).
'I'm going to nix the Runaways, Byrds and Huey Lewis which by my reckoning leaves;
Let's Stay Together (Al Green) Don't You Want Me Surfin' Bird Only Love Can Break Your Heart (Saint Etienne) Buffalo Stance I'm Only Sleeping (Beatles) Surrender (Cheap Trick) God Only Knows Souvenirs (OMD) Transmission Crazy (Patsy Cline) Be My Baby People Get Ready (C. Mayfield) Leader Of The Pack Virginia Plain Death Disco Sh-Boom (The Chords) Surf City I'm A Boy (The Who) Higher And Higher (J. Wilson) Tighten Up (Archie Bell) Ghost Town '
Begone, you damn "Buffalo Stance" & "God Save the Queen". And "Leader of the Pack". And "Crazy".
― mark s, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― So, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Love Comes Quickly - Pet Shop BoysThis Night Has Opened My Eyes - The SmithsCities In Dust - Siouxsie and the BansheesTrue Faith - New OrderLife In One Day - Howard Jones (I'm guessing this one's a longshot...)Gimme Shelter - Rolling StonesPerfect Way - Scritti PolittiHousequake - PrinceNeed You Tonight - INXSBring On The Dancing Horses - Echo and the BunnymenJoin In The Chant - Nitzer EbbEnjoy The Silence - Depeche ModeGo - MobyStigmata - Ministry
Or how about: "Communication Breakdown", "All the Young Dudes", "River Deep Mountain High", "Son of a Preacher Man", "Bang a Gong", "Pretty in Pink", "Hallelujah"?
And speaking of homages,did anyone mention "Pop Muzik"? Or does that get the disco nix?
― Arthur, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mark, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"back in black"
"surrender"*
"god only knows"*
"transmission"*
"leader of the pack"
"nightclubbing"*
"blackbird"
"god save the queen"*
"ziggy stardust"*
"death disco/swan lake"*
― Clarke B., Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthony, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
River Deep Mountain High - Ike & Tina
I Love Rock & Roll (good call again Mark, although Rasputin will live on in our hearts ;)
Halleluja if it is Happy Mondays: yea, if Leonard C. then delete. Don't know the John C. version. Sorry.
breaks down and cries: I admit I haven't heard Death Disco
Now: a lil'bit of indie/ a lil' bit of pop/ a lil'bit of fun:
Canonball - The Breeders.
― Omar, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jordan, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― tarden, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
But 'Flashlight' is a big fat YES!
I totally veto the spin-doctored Joan Jett campaign on No-one's Ever Heard Of This Stuff grounds.
Please let's stick with Roxy.
― the pinefox, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
1. This thread is the reverse of the ILM Top 100 project (which I disliked greatly). Why? Because ILM100 was about taking lots of idiosyncrasies and melting them down in a big averaging machine (thus negating them) - whereas this thread is about naming something as 'broadly acceptable' as you can think of, and then sending it through everyone's idiosyncrasies to see if it can survive them. In that ('conceptual', not 'empirical') sense, I think that this thread might be almost as good as the ILM100 was bad.
2. The other thing, though, is - how does it affect our view of the songs? Suppose a song that you like makes it and wins - doesn't it then feel, in some sense, so universally acceptable as to be bleached of the colours of particularity and love?
I hope I don't *quite* mean the very dull old syndrome of We Hate It When Our Favourite Alternative Music Becomes Successful. (This is a different forum from The Charts, anyway.) Rather, something about averages (or medians, or means, or whatever) being (at least intuitively) uninteresting.
― gareth, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Patrick, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Gareth is right - but so am I.
and where is this place where no-one has heard of joan jett but lloyd cole wears ermine-collared robes? I'd like to visit.
no?
― fritz, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Most ILMers wouldn't have heard it = GOOD reason
This admittedly requires a little guesswork, but dude, "I Love Rock and Roll" is SO not in a grey area.
I doubt you could find more than a handful of songs that everyone on ILM has heard anyhow. Maybe "I Will Always Love You". I'll settle for heard-by-most.
― duane, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ed, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mike Hanle y, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dan Perry, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Fritz: this place you refer to is called Where The Pinefox Lives. You are not invited to visit, unless - contrary to appearance - you were not being sarcastic about Lloyd Cole.
― Sterling Clover, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Don't You Want Me God Only Knows Souvenirs (OMD) Transmission People Get Ready (C. Mayfield) Virginia Plain Death Disco Surf City (Jan & Dean) I'm A Boy (The Who) Higher And Higher (J.Wilson) Tighten Up (Archie Bell) Ghost Town (Specials) Communication Breakdown All The Young Dudes River Deep Mountain High Son Of A Preacher Man Bang A Gong Radioactivity I Love Rock and Roll I Hate Myself For Loving You (Joan Jett) Cannonball (Breeders) Flash Light (Parliament) Out Of Space (Prodigy, right ?) Gypsies Tramps & Thieves (Cher)
"Flash Light" isn't disco enough for the disco nix, and also I had forgotten to put "Out Of Space" back in the race after Omar let me know that it wasn't as obscure as I suspected.
And, in further defense of mr. fox... it is fair enough to veto a song on the basis of not having heard it. We can't very well agree on all liking a song if we haven't all heard it, right?
I think we can actually answer this question - there have been plenty of suggestions that still have not been shot down. Does it seem reasonable to: 1. set a deadline on new suggestions 2. then have a final round of vetoes
Or... is it more fun to let the question continue in a prepetual state of flux until we get bored with it? That seems just as appropriate to me.
GO !!
Let's toss some things up into the air:
Shout - Tears For FearsOur Lips Are Sealed - The Go- GosManic Monday - The BanglesHell's Bells - AC/DCAnimal - Def LeppardDon't Be Cruel - Bobby BrownCream - Prince and the New Power GenerationScenario - A Tribe Called QuestLet's Go All The Way - Sly FoxHappy Hour - The HousemartinsJane Says - Jane's AddictionAdnan's - OrbitalPoison - The ProdigyEverything Counts - Depeche ModeWhip It - DEVOBig Time - Peter GabrielNever Say Never - Romeo VoidI Eat Cannibals - Toto Coelo52 Girls - B-52sGod Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen - traditionalDry The Rain - Beta Band
SouvenirsVirginia PlainDeath DiscoI'm A BoyTighten Up (unless it's the same as the Electronic song) All The Young DudesGypsies, Tramps & Thieves
Unless someone can convince me that I know and like these, they're gonna have to go.
Pinefox must appreciate that I have resisted my initial impulse to list rave anthems.
Now Mr. Perry list's:
No to:
Manic Monday - The Bangles Our Lips Are Sealed - The Go- Gos Animal - Def Leppard Don't Be Cruel - Bobby Brown (a joke right?) Scenario - A Tribe Called Quest Happy Hour - The Housemartins (fuck those arseholes!) Jane Says - Jane's Addiction (the only bad song they did) Everything Counts - Depeche Mode (not it doesn't - go away) Big Time - Peter Gabriel Never Say Never - Romeo Void I Eat Cannibals - Toto Coelo 52 Girls - B-52s God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen - traditional Dry The Rain - Beta Band
Yes to:
Shout - Tears For Fears Hell's Bells - AC/DC Let's Go All The Way - Sly Fox (aceness!) Adnan's - Orbital Poison - The Prodigy (not as good as rave-era Prod. but okay) Whip It - DEVO (can't argue wit dat!)
Now before the deadline I'll add all of my aces (someone please kidnap Masonic Boom for the time being ;)
I give you:
ABBA: Knowing Me, Knowing You/ Dancing Queen/ Summer Night City
One of these 3 will be liked by everyone or the Darkside wins
― masonic boom, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Did Be My Baby get knocked off? I still go with that or Ike & Tina - River Deep, Mountain High.
― , Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Are nominations still open? I had a good idea earlier but have forgotten it. I daresay we have enough now, anyway.
I only know the Roxy, by the way, cos I heard it at a disco last year and Stevie T told me what it was. Even now I can't remember how it goes.
Enter: I Wanna Be Your Dog - The Stooges
Nomination time is over !
List of nominees to follow in a few minutes.
Don't You Want Me (Human League) God Only Knows (Beach Boys) Souvenirs (OMD) Transmission (Joy Division) People Get Ready (Curtis Mayfield & the Impressions) Virginia Plain (Roxy Music) Be My Baby (Ronettes) Death Disco (Public Image Limited) Surf City (Jan & Dean) I'm A Boy (The Who) Higher And Higher (Jackie Wilson) Tighten Up (Archie Bell & The Drells) Ghost Town (The Specials) Communication Breakdown (Led Zeppelin) All The Young Dudes (Mott The Hoople) River Deep Mountain High (Ike & Tina Turner) Son Of A Preacher Man (Dusty Springfield) Bang A Gong (T. Rex) Radioactivity (Kraftwerk) I Love Rock and Roll (Joan Jett & The Blackhearts) I Hate Myself For Loving You (Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)) Cannonball (The Breeders) Flash Light (Parliament) Gypsies Tramps & Thieves (Cher) Hell's Bells (AC/DC) Adnan's (Orbital) I Wanna Be Your Dog (The Stooges) Alone Again Or (Love) Israelites (Desmond Dekker) I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry (Hank Williams) Mary Mary (Run-DMC) Makin' Time (The Creation) How Does It Feel To Feel (The Creation) Baby Come Back (The Equals) Gimme Some Money (Spinal Tap)
Note : All vetoes on account of not having heard some of the songs have been ignored. But NOW they're allowed :)
(do we need two Joan Jett songs though?)
― Billy Dods, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
God Only Knows (Beach Boys)
Souvenirs (OMD)
Virginia Plain (Roxy Music)
I'm A Boy (The Who)
Tighten Up (Archie Bell & The Drells)
Ghost Town (The Specials)
Gypsies Tramps & Thieves (Cher)
Alone Again Or (Love)
Israelites (Desmond Dekker)
Makin' Time (The Creation)
Baby Come Back (The Equals)
All nixed cos I've never heard them which is quite embarassing, I've never seen spinal tap.
Anyway of the rest AC/DC Hells bells is out for being stadium rock wankery. The rest I either quite like or have no strong feelings about.
― Kerry Keane, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Communication Breakdown - Percy's voice makes me ill
Makin' Time How does it feel to feel Tighten up Flash Light Hell's Bells Higher and Higher - all because I don't know them
Dan, I'm shocked that the Lord of Dexness has no idea how 1,3,6,7,8,9,11 on your list go.
― Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
(I don't challenge "mullet" as a reason to nix, obviously — otherwise I've have put up Nick Dastoor's namesake Billy Ray Cyrus long ago – tho I do wonder quite what Anthony thinks a mullet is.)
Don't You Want Me (Human League)
can't remember hearing. VETO.
great.
Transmission (Joy Division)
can't stand the guy's voice. just kidding. keep it in.
People Get Ready (Curtis Mayfield & the Impressions)
shamefacedly, i can't remember if i've heard this. give me a day to recollect before i say "VETO."
shame again. i don't think i've heard this. but "third uncle" is ace. and "baby's on fire" is brilliant. too bad roxy gets a VETO for this one.
Be My Baby (Ronettes)
i don't think i know this. i know the "just like honey" drumline is taken right from this and i want to keep it in just for that. look, i'll try to hear this within the next couple of days. Death Disco (Public Image Limited)
classic, of course.
Surf City (Jan & Dean)
doesn't stand out in my mind. VETO.
don't care about this. VETO.
Higher And Higher (Jackie Wilson) Tighten Up (Archie Bell & The Drells) Ghost Town (The Specials)
don't know these three. VETO.
Communication Breakdown (Led Zeppelin) All The Young Dudes (Mott The Hoople)
both wonderful.
River Deep Mountain High (Ike & Tina Turner) Son Of A Preacher Man (Dusty Springfield) Bang A Gong (T. Rex)
don't know them. VETO.
Radioactivity (Kraftwerk)
keep it in.
I Love Rock and Roll (Joan Jett & The Blackhearts) I Hate Myself For Loving You (Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)) Cannonball (The Breeders)
all good.
Flash Light (Parliament)
sigh. i like what i know of parliament but i don't think i know this. let me see if i can hear it in the next little while.
cher is evil. VETO.
Hell's Bells (AC/DC)
good tune.
Adnan's (Orbital)
d/k. VETO.
I Wanna Be Your Dog (The Stooges)
ace.
I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry (Hank Williams)
i hate country music. VETO.
Mary Mary (Run-DMC)
grade 6 was a good time. leave it in.
Makin' Time (The Creation) How Does It Feel To Feel (The Creation) Baby Come Back (The Equals)
Gimme Some Money (Spinal Tap)
it would be so cool if this was the only remaining song.
― sundar subramanian, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kim, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Billy Dods, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― sundar subramanian, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ed, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Anyway, I have to speak up for 'ignorance' after what Mark S has said about me.
One person's Obvious Knowledge = another person's Obscurity.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Don't worry, I have huge gaps in knowledge, that's half the fun of discovering new/unheard stuff.
― mark s, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I'm glad someone occasionally finds my attitude entertaining (and instructive. "Instructive"? WOW!!)
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I veto the following cos I don’t really like them:
And I’m afraid I have to veto the following cos I don’t know them (could be good, could be not):
Death Disco (Public Image Limited)
Higher And Higher (Jackie Wilson)
Communication Breakdown (Led Zeppelin)
Bang A Gong (T. Rex)
I Love Rock and Roll (Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)
I Hate Myself For Loving You (Joan Jett & The Blackhearts))
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That leaves:
Don't You Want Me (Human League) OK
God Only Knows (Beach Boys) Fabulous
Souvenir[no s?] (OMD) Great
People Get Ready (Curtis Mayfield & the Impressions) Passable
Virginia Plain (Roxy Music) Great - I think
Be My Baby (Ronettes) Pretty great
I'm A Boy (The Who) Dandy
Ghost Town (The Specials) OK for 80s nostalgia etc
All The Young Dudes (Mott The Hoople) Entertaining
River Deep Mountain High (Ike & Tina Turner) I like it, I think
Son Of A Preacher Man (Dusty Springfield) Fine
Cannonball (The Breeders) Ace
I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry (Hank Williams) But I'm not sure I do know this, actually. I hope I do.
How Does It Feel To Feel (The Creation) Gets through thanks to rubbish but fun Ride cover.
Things needed to be kicked up a notch. The list was full of stuff like "Tighten Up" and "I'm A Boy" that no one was particularly enthusiastic about but that still weren't getting vetoed, 'cause not enough people knew them. So in the end our Winner will truly have unanimous across-the-board wall-to-wall criticism-proof ILM approval. Or something close enough, give me a break :-p
BTW, there are 2 songs left.
― Patrick, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― fritz, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
i generally make an effort to learn more about and thus know more about musics that interest me. (was parliament really that obscure?)
80s dance/pop only gets radio play here on the "80s lunch hour" on the top 40 station. a lot of music from 1976-1986 does still get regular rotation on commercial radio here but it's the aor and hard rock from that time, with a bit of the worst new wave (police, cars, payolas) mixed in. i'm willing to pit my knowledge of '76-'86 hard rock against yours. actually, now that we have a commercial alt- rock station, the cure, depeche mode, new order, and at least one smiths song do get rotation. maybe they play "don't you want me?" too. i couldn't tell you though because i don't know how the song goes.
Any bells Sundar? It gets played near daily in Toronto.
oh, and "flash light" too.
― duane, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Hey, Sundar just vetoed one of the 2 remaining songs ("Be My Baby"), so we have a winner !
Onto records everyone hates, but it has to be something otherwise acclaimed. Surely no one actually likes "Yesterday"?
― Graham, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Nick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gygax!, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Curtis Stephens, Sunday, 19 January 2003 01:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ian Johnson, Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)
🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈BUSY SIGNAL • BALLOON (floating, floating, everybody floating)🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:59 (six years ago)
Even I like it. Even LJ likes it.
Will the naysayer(s) please step forward?
― pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:00 (six years ago)
I mean, it’s not my style, so no I don’t enjoy it
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 14:52 (six years ago)
This new flag button is fiddly but it works
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 14:57 (six years ago)
It's pleasant, and I don't have any problem with it, but I wouldn't say it grabs me in an exceptional way yet, as a relative outsider to the genre. I'll give it time.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:17 (six years ago)
Tbf I don't love it. But I do like it.
― pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:18 (six years ago)
can't say I give a shit about this song. the sound is super-tinny, I don't like that.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:18 (six years ago)
balloon
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:42 (six years ago)
On one hand, I'm a dancehall stan and I wouldn't necessarily have picked this as a world-uniting crowd-pleaser (Koffee's "Toast" would be a safer bet I'd think?). On the other, I sent this song to a friend after she got harassed by nazis on twitter all day and she said it cheered her up
― rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:44 (six years ago)
xpost on my third hand, just seeing the word balloon now puts this song in my head
― rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:45 (six years ago)
"Toast" does a lot more for me on first listen.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:57 (six years ago)
BALLOON
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 August 2019 16:20 (six years ago)
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-08/12/21/campaign_images/6bb41dc312bc/the-guy-who-makes-videos-popping-balloons-with-a--2-1362-1565646542-0_dblbig.jpg
― breastcrawl, Friday, 30 August 2019 16:23 (six years ago)
Kinda can't believe it hasn't been suggested yet but I think we'll be able to lock thread with this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBiHysKnvGs
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 August 2019 16:34 (six years ago)