polvo...

Math rock...hmm...someone with more patience than I should address this query. While folks like Slint & Rodan were tagged as "math rock" (if I read my CMJs correctly), it's been attatched to folks that are playing something akin to a tres wanky Gang of Four. Lots of bass noodling. Not very melodic. Plenty of loud / soft dynamics to give you _Nevermind_ flashbacks. (This is stereotypical, mind you.)

I believe Don Caballero are the epitome of "math rock". Their 2nd album was an impenetrable fortress of wacked time-signatures, Black- Sabbath-on-shrooms riffing, and multi-limbed drum soloing. (Their later efforts are, supposedly, better.)

This is a good thing.

1. Today's Active Lifestyles
2. Cor-Crane Secret
3. Celebrate The New Dark Age
4. Exploded Drawing
5. Polvo
6. Shapes
7. This Eclipse

it's funny how opinions change. in 93,94,95, polvo felt untouchable and now to hear such fire pointed at their asian noodling, it's kind of amusing. has history revised itself? (or maybe just caught up?)

m.

polvo is the answer to my hotmail favourite band secret question, or something.

haterz get trampled by my sacred cow.

Three words: Today's. Active. Lifestyles.

ash lives in our hood.

yes! that ruled! superchunk's devo cover was a favorite back in the day...

"freedom of choice" tracklisting....

1. Ca Plane Pour Moi performed by Sonic Youth - 3:58
2. Rock & Roll Girl performed by Muffs - 2:21
3. Destination Unknown performed by Erectus Monotone - 3:14
4. How Much More performed by Redd Kross - 3:07
5. 5' 1" performed by Tiny Lights - 3:37
6. Pump It Up performed by Mudhoney - 3:09
7. The Wait performed by Das Damen - 3:11
8. Tainted Love performed by Finger - 3:47
9. Wishing performed by It's O.K. - 4:10
10. Dreaming performed by Yo La Tengo - 2:59
11. Wuthering Heights performed by White Flag - 4:00
12. I Got You performed by Connells - 4:06
13. Homosapien performed by Big Dipper - 4:50
14. Mexican Radio performed by Polvo - 3:23
15. Antmusic performed by Hypnolovewheel - 3:56
16. Don't You Want Me Baby performed by Chia Pet - 3:43
17. Hero Worship performed by Permanent Green Light - 5:01
18. Girl U Want performed by Superchunk - 2:35

(haha, i still have that CD. Still kinda disappointing tho' :( Youth's "Ca Plain Pour Moi" cover rocks it, as well as Erectus Monotone's "Destination Unknown" cover)

Yancey: I can understand the Polvo/Unwound connection, since I got into both bands at around the same time. There sure was an awful lot of that kind of indistinct-roar guitar dissonance in the early 90s, wasn't there? Ah, good times.

I also wonder how Polvo has aged... I'd guess not very well.

and what hstencil said.

also, from what i have:
1. todays active lifestyles (OTM about all songs mentioned so far - lazy comet, my kimono, thermal treasure, but ESPECIALLY time isnt on my side - that synth solo is one of the finest kitchen-sink pop/rock moments i can think of...)
2. celebrate the new dark age
3. cor-crane secret

(ill update when i get a little more familiar with exploded drawing)

x-post haha see I think polvo is the ultimate treble band!!

they definitely used cheaper guitars then sonic youth which explains some of the variance in tones. i'm just explaining that tunings played a pretty significant factor in their "sound" which was largely a sonic youth influence.

flip it and reverse it, dude-io.

check out black taj, dave brylawski's new band.

Erectus Monotone is super too (I was raving mystery friend above).

I'm gonna go home tonight and listen to Frozen Like Chandeliers.

http://www.wxyc.org/bandwidth/downloads/bandwidth/Bandwidth-Celebrating_10-Years_of_Internet_Radio_on_WXYC-Chapel_Hill/10%20-%20Black%20Taj%20-%20Woke%20Up%20Tired.mp3

their new record came out a week or so ago and i know they're touring rather soon.

this is what dave says about the band in a fakejazz interview:

http://www.fakejazz.com/fake/archives/2005/04/ncaa_basketball.php

"Black Taj is Grant Tennille from the Idyll Swords, my friend and Inexperience drummer Thomas Atherton, and Steve Popson, who was in Polvo with me, on bass. The record is going to have a few different recording sessions on it. The earliest was from 2002, which we did at Trans Am's studio - NRS - in D.C. Ash Bowie and Brian Quast did a session in Raleigh this year with Brian Walsby on drums. Jerry Kee did a recent session as well. I think we are going to go back to Quanic in Raleigh and get Ash and Brian to re-record a couple of songs this summer. We'll cull the "best" from all those sessions for the album."

I'm a big apologist for "Shapes"!

Polvo are reforming for Explosions In The Sky's ATP next year. I've heard feck all of their music, but I'm still pretty excited about this.

Every time I see this thread revived I a) don't dare posting because I am not articulate enough to do justice to how much I like them and b) fear it is news of them reforming for a date I couldn't go to eventually. Now I'm going to risk the idiocy of a) because part b) has really happened.

(And not even the ATP with Deerhunter, Pissed Jeans, Wooden Shjips and Fuck Buttons, which I was already a little regretful about missing and could just about have been tipped over into attempting to get a chalet with a bunch of strangers on the basis of this announcement)

I heard the dude's guitar work on Helium's Pirate Prude EP and Superball LP and somehow I just KNEW Polvo wouldn't be half as good. The song "Gemini Cusp is fantastcic, though -- although it's corny (read: indie) as all get out

Every time I see this thread revived I a) don't dare posting because I am not articulate enough to do justice to how much I like them and b) fear it is news of them reforming for a date I couldn't go to eventually. Now I'm going to risk the idiocy of a) because part b) has really happened.

I'll be sure to let you know how it goes! But seriously, it will be my first ATP experience so don't mistake me for one of those ridiculous fairweather hipster types who only go to gigs to show off their new hairdos.

(And not even the ATP with Deerhunter, Pissed Jeans, Wooden Shjips and Fuck Buttons, which I was already a little regretful about missing and could just about have been tipped over into attempting to get a chalet with a bunch of strangers on the basis of this announcement)

If it makes you feel better, going to the other one means I'll miss the Meat Puppets.

There needs to be a reissue of that first EP plus all the singles stuff and rarities that never made the albums.

I heard the dude's guitar work on Helium's Pirate Prude EP and Superball LP...

um n00b, that's called a bass. mary was the guitarist.

'Can I Ride'

What a belting lesson that one is. The four note bass line rules

their reunion show down the street in Chapel Hill sold out a month in advance

Cor Crane Secret got a listen today.

ce-le-brate-the new! dark! age! with! us!

"El Rocío" is an underrated epic.

"El Rocio" almost redeems Shapes...

I use "D.D. (S.R.)" as the background music to my iPod games.

*GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG*

I am way too irrationally excited for the Polvo reunion, given that I can't actually make it through any of their albums in one sitting. They need a best of record like whoa.

today's active lifestyle

just got tickets for the nyc show

One of my favorite 90s bands. Lived in Chapel Hill, NC, so saw 'em a couple times before I ever heard a record (Cor-Crane was already out, so I didn't have to wait long). Great live show. Lot of folks back then weren't happy w/ Cor-Crane, but I think its best songs are as good as anything that came after. Esp. "Can I Ride" and "Channel Changer". Celebrate the New Dark Age and Today's Active Lifestyles are great from front to back though. For whatever reason, I lost interest after that. As far as I'm concerned, a random mix of songs off the first three = the only "Greatest Hits" that matters.

Still, a well-selected retrospective of some kind might do well, and god knows, they deserve it.

did someone see the reunion show and can report?

dc show was great! sounded like the old polvo. new drummer is pretty sick.

Woooooo Polvo!

Reunion is good.

boston show was awesome for real

I was trying to fall asleep one night this week and all of a sudden I remembered this band. It was really weird. I don't remember a whole lot about them but I remember liking them to some degree.

at times they were more noodly than I remembered

but the "hits" from today's active and celebrate the new dark age were great

fractured (like chandeliers) closed the new york show, totally awesome

I was trying to figure out which album I taped songs from. I looked at the album covers on allmusic. I think it was actually that sorta orangey thing from 1993.

OkaY WOAH wOAH you're telling me they did a cover version of Mexican Radio?

I shall report back later.

The singer had a Jugghaid hat amirite?

Garrett (since you're in BOS too) or anyone who's seen them recently: is Ash singing different lyrics for the verses in "Feather of Forgiveness?" Obviously it was hard to hear but the syllables I could pick out sounded way different. Weird 'cause all the lyrics on that song are cool.

Yeah this is a dorky obscuro question but whatever.

after seeing the show and listening to the new songs, here's the "scoop": Polvo is going STONER!

Garrett (since you're in BOS too) or anyone who's seen them recently: is Ash singing different lyrics for the verses in "Feather of Forgiveness?" Obviously it was hard to hear but the syllables I could pick out sounded way different. Weird 'cause all the lyrics on that song are cool.

http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Music/63257-Polvo-give-it-another-go/

There were some parts I actually disliked, and virtually no original lyrics I cared to sing anymore. Making changes to old material was a challenge, but it turned out to be a lot of fun also, and suddenly I was happy to be playing the songs again.”

there were changes on the "thermal changes" too

btw,how are Black Taj?

Thanks Que! That helps. Yeah, "Thermal Treasure" was totally all over the place.

thermal treasure of course
xxpost

"Fractured Like Chandeliers" is pretty goddamn amazing, and that whole EP is pretty great. I don't really get any of the other ones, really. Even Today's Active Lifestyles I feel only has 2-3 good songs.

by the way, how do the play in concert with all the weird tunings? do they just have a hundred guitars?

I wish I saw their show when they rolled through Seattle last month.

they don't, they just play them more casually, maybe thats why their live show is not really a must imo
xpost

you mean they play them with standard tunings? that's rather odd.

Anyone heard the new song? Album on the way shortishly ... I seem to be of a rare minority who thought Shapes was actually an amazing record, so, while keeping my expectations low, I am kinda hoping this new one kicks.

new song where how

Friend emailed me, said it's up on Pitchfork. I presume it's a track reviewed or in the news section. I can't listen at work, so I haven't checked it out.

what!!

oh, here: http://pitchfork.com/news/35665-premiere-polvo-beggars-bowl/

"signed with merge" RE-SIGNED

THIS SONG IS AWES

Different awesome, or just usual Polvo awesome. I am having trouble imagining what the new record is gonna sound like. Back to Polvo basics or more extensions of the sound, a la Shapes.

i mean it is unmistakably a polvo song but it is maybe less choppy and grooves harder than what you're used to. also seems to briefly give it up for some old school guitar heroics.

the end is kind of polvo by way of mogwai which means it totally kicks ass. fuck, this is still my favorite type of music.

Sounds like like parts of Shapes to me alright. A friend of mine was actually the Rock Director at a college radio station when Shapes came out and didn't add it, saying it was too "classic rock." Really, it was less choppy and grooved harder, to quote you. But yeah, can't wait to hear this (eventually). Thanks for the updates.

this is like shapes with a drummer who is about 100000X better

Yeah, I think it's one of the dudes for The Cherry Valence, who were a pretty great live band (though they had two drummers, so not sure which one it is ...)

That's "from the Cherry Valence"

that was a great band!

Yeah, they were.

Oh wow - excited to hear this!

so does this mean no more Black Taj? cuz that would be a bummer

holy shit this is awes

this album will be exciting

v. jazzed. this song is awesome.

excellent! when's the album come out??

*punches air*

Some blog says: "“Beggar’s Bowl” is the third track on the eight-stacked In Prism. The album is due in stores Sept. 8 through the Durham-based label."

Is 'In Prism' a horrible pun on 'in prison'?

great song! at first i was kind of thinking "is it really supposed to sound like this?", there's some heavy studio trickery going on here and i like it.

fuck yes, go polvo!

this new song is one of Polvo's best!
and it's kinda good surprise to me cause i thought math rock could never sound fresh and exciting again.

I was always a little underwhelmed by the polvo stuff I'd heard throughout the years. even had an album at some point. but this song RUUULES.

maybe it's the drummer?

i am a captain save-a-shapes...never knew why ppl didn't like that album as much as me.

huge polvo fan, saw them on the shapes tour--but never even heard the record

that's how bad the reception of it was, if i remember correctly

i liked shapes fine when i first heard it (and still think it has some good jams) but as i worked backwards through the catalog i realized i liked that stuff more.

it's kind of an odd beast, this song. It's unexpectedly heavy, and has a lot of nods to classic rock; it certainly doesn't sound like anything off my favorite Polvo album, Celebrate the New Dark Age. But it's pretty good nonetheless.

Love the serpentine guitar thing that fades in and out of the mix. Is that a sample or what? Echoplex?

Shapes had a lot of nods to classic rock, which in 1997 was not cool to most folks. So, bad reception. In my mind, though, it holds up extremely well and was a pinnacle of songwriting for the band. Less "cool changes" for the sake of throwing some cool changes in the songs, but still usual great Polvo shit going on. I don't know, I like all of their albums, so it was nice seeing them trot out some new shit. Then of course they were gone. Can't wait to here this new record, seems like it is just going to pick up where they left off. Side note: last show I saw of theirs was with Trans Am. Trans Am closed there set with an AMAZING Led Zeppeling medley (medleys, when done well, are so good live) and Polvo played a Hendrix song (Stoned Free, I think, not a great Hendrix jam but still). Pretty much bummed out all of the Philly dudes I was with who thought Polvo sucked after Cor-Crane Secret. Weird. I couldn't get enough.

"... closed there set with an AMAZING Led Zeppeling medley"

What idiot wrote that? "closed their set ... Zeppelin ..."

yeah, that was the same tour i saw them on last

It was a good show, but the crowd was weird. Dave made fun of Philly for getting rid of Jerry Stackhouse, and the room sat in silence. No one got into the show, it was the days of crossed arms and zero expressions of enthusiasm (for the most part). Then when the classic rock came out ........ Well, I was excited.

hahaha i remember those kinds of shows

it's kind of an odd beast, this song. It's unexpectedly heavy, and has a lot of nods to classic rock; it certainly doesn't sound like anything off my favorite Polvo album, Celebrate the New Dark Age. But it's pretty good nonetheless.

does it sound like anything else in their back catalog? I'm a little curious now and am wondering where to go. but I may just wait for the new one.

it could possibly be a song off of exploded drawing.

but there's a linearity and groove to the track (even though there are like four movements in its five minutes) that set it apart from earlier polvo stuff. they never grooved like this. the drummer knows what he is doing.

there's this repeating guitar loop that totally gets crushed by this syncopated riff, and the drummer just drives it all along. there aren't much vocals in the track, but ash sounds really on. then there's cock-rock solo and coda.

i don't think i've ever heard polvo before, but i like this song a bunch. maria is really excited about a new album. who knew i was living with a closet polvo fan!

ash sounds really on.

he does! ahhhhhhh anticipated album!

thanx, cutty.

pretty (unexpectedly) excited about this new album now!

and yeah, I think the serious groove is what I really like about this track.

Dave made fun of Philly for getting rid of Jerry Stackhouse, and the room sat in silence.

lol when i saw them last june dave was repping unc hoops and dropping kg references on the crowd (in boston) and no one got it either.

most awk moment like that though was when i saw liars (around the same time) and angus dedicated pure unevil to kevin garnett and was intoning really slowly "kevin garnett.....is....PURE UNEVIL" and i think i was the only person laughing.

and yeah, I think the serious groove is what I really like about this track

Yeah, it really changes the vibe. It sounds confident and powerful; I always felt like older Polvo stuff doesn't rock as hard as it should.

Free Polvo show in NYC in case anyone hasn't mentioned... I was too lazy to look hard enough.

http://www.ohmyrockness.com/VenueDetail.cfm?VenueID=189

Very excited!

they're playing here in august

wow i am officially fucking shocked and blown away by that new song on pitchfork...sounds so fucking fierce. dudes are not just doing some going through the motions reunion i guess...daaaaaaaaaamn

Yeah I know. Have listened to it again for the umpteenth time, it's beautiful. Dare I say it, but it's kind of better than Polvo, if that makes any sense.

what's really blowing me away about this song is how it's really complicated, lots of different parts, not necessarily a clear order or pattern, and it just flows like it's the most natural thing in the world. i have ridic hopes for this album now.

I always felt like older Polvo stuff doesn't rock as hard as it should.

― Jesus Christ, Chiropractor at Law (res), Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:10 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

like thats what made it rule is the moment-to-moment feeling that at any second it could rock SO hard but it mostly didnt

^otm

restraint is one of the noblest musical skills

not only restraint w/r/t rockin-hard but also to melody. polvo's melodic vagueness is something of a virtue as well.

?? i don't understand this at all. older polvo (i.e. celebrate the new dark age) rocked VERY VERY hard.

it did, this is very true. it's not a matter of "rocking hard" it's the GROOVE. the old drummer did not groove. he skittered around the guitars frenetically.

In my mind one of the truly great things about Polvo as well is that they are constantly "going for it" in very restrained ways. In most of their songs the guitars are constantly adding slight variations to the riffs and parts of the songs, coming off as slightly improvisatory but within the framework of the song. Of course they wrote songs with lots of parts the "took you on a journey," so to speak, but even within that the songs were constantly shifting and mixing it up instead of just focussing on perfection or being super super tight. It is something that I wish more bands picked up on.

In Prism track listing:

1. Right the Relation
2. D.C. Trails
3. Beggar’s Bowl
4. City Birds
5. Lucia
6. Dream residue/Work
7. The Pedlar
8. A Thousand Waves

Anyone heard any of the other tracks?

this saturday ~_~

Well, I am still excited that they are back together and I am still imagining that the new record will have some great shit on it, but I have listened to "Beggar's Bowl" a few times now and I am just not feeling it much. I like some of the short little transitional guitar bits that come in the pauses of the song, but the main riffs and parts are just not doing it for me. I was really kinda bummed out cause I have truly liked everything they have ever done, for the most part, and I don't know, it just feels off to me. Too slick? I mean, Shapes had slick bits, but it never sounded like something that would make sense on a "Modern Rock Radio" station. Hmm, maybe I am being too critical, but it just seems overcooked to me. Perhaps pretty great live, minus all of the reverb and studio shit going on.

Surprised no one else seemed to get a similar feel from it. Makes me hope that it's just me being an ass and that the record really will be great.

yes, you are an ass

xp what you are describing is what's cool about it--like after 12 years i wouldn't want them to come back with just a polvo record (i mean that would be fine but beggar's bowl makes it clear that they had no intention of halfassing this). it sounds like they took the core of their sound and expanded upon it, which is awesome imo.

Hmmm, being an ass and am an ass conversation ... Look, I don't want them to just come back with another Polvo record either. I did mention that I loved Shapes, did I not, which most Polvo fans did not at the time. You know, I am listening to it right now, and the breakdowns and little insertions in the pauses are cool, but the main riff and bass tone and even some of the guitar tones are just kinda lame sounding. I was legitimately surprised, as I can honestly never remember thinking this about a Polvo song. I don't hear just an update to their sound, I hear some kind of bad studio ideas making their way into the sound kinda stuff going on, and it legitimately makes me wonder about the upcoming record. I hope I am wrong.

I want to add that in the context of a whole record "Beggar's Bowl" may sound quite a bit different to me, but as a standalone track right now I am having trouble getting into it. Gotta say that, as noted, the playing on the song is pretty amazing, super-tight for sure. It really is just the sound and parts of the arrangement that aren't doing it for me, but I will shut up as there is no way to reconcile it until the record comes out. I am still hoping that it will be a great record.

If you are in NYC this friday they are playing a free show with Obits at South Street Seaport. Search "Polvo" on ohmyrockness.com if you need more info. Don't miss it!

def. want to go to this.

obits any good?

obits are awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaBG9HLxApQ
almost as good as hot snakes, who i like a lot more than polvo. rick froberg has the greatest rock voice ever

oh wow, didn't realize he was in this band. (who I've never actually heard of.) LOVE hot snakes/drive like jehu!

songs aren't as long as drive like jehu. obits are more an extension of hot snakes. it's gonna be an amazing show. getting to see these two bands free is hard to beat

Super fucking pumped for this. My buddies from St. Louis flew in last night just for this show.

FYI, info about the weather and what's happening with the show tonight:
http://twitter.com/SeaportMusicNYC

Let's hope Ian Hunter intervenes with the rain god to protect them.

yikes.

sadly, I may pass....

dont give up yet they moved the show to brooklyn bowl in williamsburg. bands play at 10pm dont miss it. its indoors now.

They were awesome!!

aw, I figured it was off. missed it. ah well.

oh what the hell, i'll go see them tonight

Huh? In Maryland? Have fun!

was raining was sad didnt go oh

jesus h they were great! vibracobra, batradar, bombs that fall from your eyes, city spirit, fast canoe, feather of forgiveness, titletrack, thermal treasure, tilebreaker, and two new ones. pretty rad setlist imo.

Yeah thats at least really close to the setlist they played in Brooklyn (can't remember everything exactly)!

ah...mmm...leaked...
...arrr...sounds fucking awesome...ahhh

hmm

more or less half quiet post rock songs - sounds kinda like sonic youth' Murray Street influenced,
and half more catchy-straightforward-loud-math-rock songs that continue the 90's Polvo/albini tradition.

overall it sounds like an enjoyable,satisfying record, nothing new but thats not what's expected from them. nice continuation of their 90's stuff - like those 10 years or so were just an illusion- they picked up exactly where they stopped,
with the same guitar tuning and all the other polvo schticks.
great reunion record.

streaming on the merge site too. listening now...

i'm glad pitchfork gave it 8.1 cause i almost thought i was the only one who liked this album!
(cause of the lack of posts about it)

i didn't love it but i will give it another go

i'm waiting for physical release yo

i'm digging this a bunch

just bought tickets to see them this saturday!

so after spending a couple days with this i think i'm mostly struck by how pretty a lot of it is...like instead of consciously subverting and fucking up every riff they realized it's more effective to do that 75% of the time and it makes the other 25% sound even better.

i'll admit on the second half i kind of wanted them to just play something really abrasive and old-polvo but that obviously was not the goal--this record is a little moodier, a little lower-key.

the first half pretty much kills tho.

i'll admit on the second half i kind of wanted them to just play something really abrasive and old-polvo but that obviously was not the goal--this record is a little moodier, a little lower-key.

I think this will make me warmer to the record, actually.

I've never heard of Polvo before this new disc, and I hate the term math-rock (makes me think of prog, I guess). But I'm digging the jagged guitar sound on the eMusic soundscans.

yeah it's a bad term and it doesn't apply to polvo any more than it does to like, sonic youth or something.

i never understood what math rock was supposed to mean

i think it is for don cab and no other band

I think I've read people call Battles a "math-rock" band. Maybe Rush, too?

if you didn't listen to math rock in the 90s, you obviously won't understand what it was supposed to mean. it's not that hard to grasp, and it is instantly identifiable.

i would agree that there is a particular type of 90s indie rock band that could be grouped together--i think the issue is more the term "math rock" being used for that group.

It was invented by a friend of ours as a derogatory term for a band me and James (Lo) played in called Wider. But his whole joke is that he'd watch the song and not react at all, and then take out his calculator to figure out how good the song was. So he'd call it math rock, and it was a total diss, as it should be.

the only acceptable use of it, for me, involves a calculator.

hahah where's that quote from?

if you didn't listen to math rock in the 90s, you obviously won't understand what it was supposed to mean. it's not that hard to grasp, and it is instantly identifiable.

Indeed:

Math rock is a rhythmically complex, guitar-based style of experimental rock music that emerged in the late 1980s. It is characterized by complex, atypical rhythmic structures (including irregular stopping and starting), angular melodies, and dissonant chords.

Wiki is all-knowing, all-seeing.

the quote's from here, it looks like

http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/6502-chavez/

Polvo were always tagged as 'lo-fi' by the press at the time IIRC, which I never really understood either, speaking as someone that was also listening to the Dead C and all that Siltbreeze stuff.

que do you even listen to music

yeah. i do sometimes!

Math rock is a rhythmically complex, guitar-based style of experimental rock music that emerged in the late 1980s. It is characterized by complex, atypical rhythmic structures (including irregular stopping and starting), angular melodies, and dissonant chords.

so is Fugazi math rock? because Fugazi does all these things.

i mean again are we disagreeing that there is a category here or that the best name for that category is "math rock"?

fugazi is DC post-punk, too song-oriented to be considerd math rock. but you are correct, though--all those elements are present in fugazi.

i mean again are we disagreeing that there is a category here or that the best name for that category is "math rock"?

As I said above, I just hate the term "math rock."

yeah me too, totally

'Heavily Slint-influenced rock in weird time signatures of a slightly mechanical bent' is surely a succinct genre name we can all rally round? Otherwise 'math rock' is fine by me.

This thread makes me want to listen to June of 44 now.

back in the 90's whenever someone brought up the term it would remind me of a tic a lot of the "math rock" drummers seemed to have (which i always assumed was copped from slint) hitting just the bell of a crash cymbal in an odd place in a song, like once or twice. it's sort of hard to explain

sheesh! i cannot believe the seething rage with which i dismissed polvo & particularly "celebrate.." way upthread. i think that was more to do with the powerlessness of having no money and sleeping on people's floors ages back roundabout that time. somewhere along the line i turned into a raging polvo fanatic and "today's active lifestyles" is one of my favourites lps ever, and oh yes i am stoked about in prism which i did not know about until i read this thread today.

polvo always seemed "pretty" and "melodic" not so much "math" to me

they are actually quite dissonant

This thread makes me want to listen to June of 44 now.

Pretty much the first thing I do tonight once I've got the kids asleep, is to put on some Rodan I think. Still need to hear In Prism.

rodan "rusty" is crucial. first time i heard that album i was so blown away.

the dissonance is in service of a lyrical style - theyre never purely abrasive

yeah i mean like i said they tend to start off playing something that is recognizably a "normal" riff only to do something subversive to it later--maybe "abrasive" maybe "unexpected," whatever--the first song on the new record actually has a great example of this.

Celebrate the New Dark Age With Us!

"Beggar's Bowl" is a great track, but I'm not really getting into the rest of this, unfortunately. I think I feel this way about all of Polvo's albums; there's always a couple killer tracks, but the rest are head-scratchers. Any other favorites on this album?

I haven't heard the whole thing, but what I heard of the last track sounded gorgeous.

Whats your favorite album?

Poll-vo

(I want more people to vote on my thread)

Here you go Evan, you may appreciate me backing up a threat I made ealier in this or your Poll-vo thread, can't remember, but I was kinda bummed out after hearing "Beggar's Bowl" but said I would check in after hearing the whole record.

Well, here goes. I fucking loved and love it, definitely one of my favorite records from last year, but that's not really fair. I am a huge Polvo fan, so I didn't have much doubt that they would fail me for a whole record.

I still stand by my criticism of "Beggar's Bowl", which is that it does seem a little forced to me and doesn't suit the band that well, despite the fact that it obviously "kicks ass". I chalk it up to a band taking a long hiatus, getting back together, adding a decidedly groovy new drummer, being better at their instruments, and then geting in a room together. If I had to bet money on it, I might hazard a wager that "Beggar's Bowl" was the first thing they wrote once back together. Kinda total explosion of renewed energy and enthusiasm pouring into a supreme rocker, but perhaps the excitement of "holy shit, we fucking DO still rock" maybe overriding Polvo's usual, dare I say it, refined taste? Whatever, I can see why people like it, but it is definitely my least favorite song on the album, with "The Pedlar" coming in secong. Enough with the negative.

The rest is total guitar righteousnous, along with some really cool songwriting and a palpable feel to the whole record. Honestly the two previous songs I mentioned ruin the feel for me a little, which is perhaps what some like but hurts the album as a whole for me a little. There are so many good moments on the record, little parts that come up once a song then are gone that totally make it a great listen front to back. This, to me, is a real album, and definitely benefits from listening all the way through. I certainly like Beggar's Bowl a lot better as a moment on the record, as I can just enjoy the parts of the song I like knowing there is more to come. As a single, eh.

Already a long post which is probably of little value to anyone, but if there is one thing I would like to leave anyone who gets through this with, it is:
STEVE POPSON!
I always loved Steve's playing, and feel he is often a little overlooked, but fuck, he kicks ass all over this record. As Mike Watt would say: BASS!

yeah, i noticed on the faster polvo songs of my favorite era (basically the merge years), popson was the dude nailing down the "melody" which freed up ash and dave to just skroink all over the place.

still haven't heard this but was disappointed with the last few of their efforts so i'm kinda at peace with that.

Yeah, a lot of people seemed to have gotten off the boat with Exploded and Shapes, which as I've stated I am fully on board with and feel have aged really well. Popson just has great ideas as a bass player, he is a totally integral part of the band, which I always appreciate. He, like the other dudes, seems to always be kinda going for it in lots of non-obvious ways while still staying within the song. This is a really hard thing to do well.

If you didn't like Shapes or Exploded Drawing I am not sure the new one will do much for you, though I must say that to me it is its own beast in the Polvo universe. It is way more classic rock than Shapes even, but not, again, in an overly obvious way. Simply, it is a gracefully older-sounding album from older dudes, which makes a lot of sense coming from the band at this point in time. It certainly does not come across as an attempt at relevancy or redemption or something, thankfully, at least to me, just a really great return. Some of the playing is, of course, truly truly great. The guitars at times are just so fucking cool, which for me is often enough of a reason to get excited about any record.

http://tapeop.com/articles/78/polvo/media/small/polvo_4.jpg
brief tape op interview

*yaaaaaaaawn*

What was good about Polvo again??

catchy songs, weird guitars, cool lyrics, wacko moments

surprised you dislike an indie rock band, ilxor

lol

Well it's really tough for indie rock, in general, to live up to the high, high standard of Tapes 'n Tapes.

great revive, though

I think Polvo is a band that hits you at a certain time or it doesn't. Either you miss the window or you never had a chance of getting it in the first place. The me that listened to Today's Active Lifestyles every other day for years is unrecognizable to current me and the new album didn't even sound like the band I thought I liked. Still a solid group.

I love all of their stuff. "A Link In The Chain" is about as beautiful as anything that came before it.

if you say you like indie guitar rock and yet can't relate to today's active lifestyles, you really need to find a new hobby

Damn right.

Huh, had no idea this existed. Guess there will be a new album!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2ClPotqas&feature=related

Not sure what I think of it, but most of that last record was really good, so I am cool with more of the same. Just glad these dudes are playing together.

Yeah I noticed this on ebay, otherwise I wouldn't have known it came out. I love these guys, as weird as this track is.

Yeah, song is really bizarre, but it's a 7" so more power to them for experimenting a little bit with their M.O. Will always be interested to hear a new record by them, sure to provide at least a few moments of absolute guitar bliss.

No news about an album or anything, just really hoping that a new 7" signals new stuff, not leftovers from "In Prism".

Yeah, and that 7" isn't brand new- I've noticed it months ago, so who knows if it signifies new material.

Yeah, over half a year old. Just heard nothing about it when it came out. Gonna hope regardless that it is a signal of more to come.

Happy Ash Bowie Wednesday!

Huh?? Missed this. Did I miss something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday

Oh yeah, duh.

Deafening woosh.

The Purple Bear never fails to make me laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBeypWvOMX4

^ single version of Vibracobra, heaps better than the album one imo

Convinced they are the kings at being both as angular and melodic as possible.

On such a Polvo kick right now, just hammering Celebrate the New Dark Age, Today's Active Lifestyles & Exploded Drawing one after the other, over and over again. Still don't know which one is my favourite, but one of those three for sure.

New album listed on Wikipedia: TBD (Merge, 2013)

I told my parents to stay up late
but it's half past two, there's been a mistake

Curious, what do you guys think is the hit/miss ratio for Polvo? I'm a fan, but I think it's like 1:5 or so. But those tracks that hit kick serious ass.

Polvo songs/records are so full of hooks, they are just super-odd ones, which makes them (for me at least) just endlessly worth returning to. I really hope that they make another record, I loved "In Prism" and would gladly have more in the same vein.

That "Vibracobra" is awesome. I loved the original version of "Can I Ride" as well with the extended ending:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA9LPMOqpCc

Hah xpost, I am a huge fan, so there is not really a Polvo song I do not like. Way better than 1:5 for me. Possibly the inverse, i.e., 5:1.

Also, I guess "Can I Ride" on Cor-Crane has an extended ending too, just a different, less anthemic one. Not sure why they ditched, unless it was to cut the record down in length a bit.

Yeah, I'm at a stage where I can put on just about any Polvo and I'll be content, amazing how that sound feels as rich to me now as it ever did. Take a record like Celebrate The New Dark Age though and that is 7 out of 7 solid tunes.

Agreed on "Celebrate". That record, and Drive Like Jehu's "Yank Crime", changed my life legitimately (I got them both at the same time pretty much and saw each band live on those tours) and still provide really rich and rewarding listening sessions after whatever listens I am on with them (well well into the hundreds and possibly thousands at this point).

Also love this Peel Session from 1992, which is certainly not the band at the peak of their powers, but there is just something about their early days that hits a sweet spot for me. Especially "Treaed On Me", though for some reason them jamming on Gary Numan's "Cars" is both goofy and great at the same time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Z6Xn7uKdY

"Tread", cannot type or spell these days.

They indeed have a new album in the works.

I love everything they did, though "shapes" still weirdos me out. My girlfriend got me "today's active lifestyles" on vinyl (orig merge)!! That s/t EP is the holy grail at this point.

"Celebrate" seems to be the most consistent for me. I like almost all the songs on that one, but for some reason I only like 3-4 tracks on TAL.

More forward momentum in the compositions overall on celebrate, I think.

Thanks for confirming there's a new record planned Evan, great news (I had heard something that led me to believe it as well, but didn't want to get my hopes up). I love "Shapes", though it is a really weird record, it is heavy and kind of scary sounding at times, like stuff was maybe not going so well in Polvo-land (which of course they broke up for a while after that record so ....) There are some amazing songs on that record though, and the guitar playing had gone into some new territories, which were taken even further on "In Prism". My friend rejected it from his college radio station at the time for being too "classic rock", which is not really that far from the truth. They did a Led Zeppelin medley and covered Hendrix when I saw them on that tour, which the Philadelphia crowd at the time did not seem too pleased by, but I fucking loved it.

I only own the s/t on CD, really don't have many of the albums on vinyl cause I bought everything I could when CDs were king (i.e., I was 19-23 and dumb, except not dumb for listening to as much Polvo as I could).

"Celebrate" is the most concise statement by them (as an EP obvioulsy), but it did not sacrifice any of the range they displayed as a band. I love "This Eclipse" as well, but it is just not as jam-packed with "events" like "Celebrate" is, it's a lot more relaxed and expansive for an EP. What a run though, those two EPs into "Exploded Drawing" was a hell of a fertile creative period.

Also "Solitary Set" is absolutely one of my favorite things in the world.

In Prism was my favorite album of that year, and 'Tragic Carpet Ride' off Celebrate... is in my top 5 of all-time greatest songs.

Yeah man, "Tragic Carpet Ride" rules so hard, though I get bummed out that they fade the guitars at the end. I want that ending to keep going on and on and on ....

Talking about Polvo's classic rock propensities, I've only just got round to listening to Black Taj (both albums up on Spotify, Idyll Swords on there too) and that is very much in that vein. Definitely an extension of what Polvo were doing on Shapes, really nice stuff.

Had one of those records at some point and remember being underwhelmed, but it might have just been my disappointment at not having Polvo around any more. Once I get through my Sonic Youth ballot I am gonna go listen to those again. I have never even heard the Idyll Swords, so I am excited for that.

Listening to the second album, there's a definite Neil Young/Grateful Dead/Skynyrd vibe about it - Polvo it most definitely ain't.

I missed this story a couple of weeks back, but new album now announced:
http://www.mergerecords.com/blog/2013/07/polvo-returns-with-siberia-in-october/

neat!

That last 7" they put out on Merge ("Heavy Detour," I think?) was much more straightforward but really great

Oh awesome!

Marc Masters just posted today that it was great, which is good news. Dude shares a lot of tastes with myself, though I cannot imagine really being disappointed by a Polvo record. I imagine at the very least it will be really good.

Merge just posted first song "Total Immersion" from the upcoming album. Has that early "swarm of bees" tone on one of the guitars (which is why the Merge description for the record is throwing out "Today's Active Lifestyles" as a comparison I imagine) and a really cool outro. Definitely like it a lot better than the lead song on the last album (I loved the last album, just not "Beggar's Bowl" so much).

Has that early "swarm of bees" tone on one of the guitars

That would be the Vibracobra

Beggar's Bowl was a monster of a tune I thought.

Most people dug "Beggar's Bowl" a bunch, I was pretty alone in not being that into it I think (I think I went a little overboard in this thread explaining why though). Still not my favorite Polvo song, but I definitely appreciate it in the context of that album more than I did when it was the only song I had heard off of it.

Ooops, of course meant to post the link:

https://soundcloud.com/#mergerecords/polvo-total-immersion

Do I need to sign up to listen?

Hmm, I don't know. I have a soundcloud accout that I think I am always logged into.

Try this East Village Radio version, maybe has different permissions:
http://www.eastvillageradio.com/content/content.php?id=6618

Ah yes, thank you! That one is actually embedded. Thanks also for doing the research I could have easily done.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/70693/qa-polvos-dave-brylawski-talks-the-state-of-unc-sports-plus-premiere-of-polvos-new-song

I was going to say, if the above link doesn't work you can hear it on the Merge Soundcloud page: https://soundcloud.com/mergerecords/ (works for me anyway and I don't have an account)

This info is redundant now but I'll post it anyway in case there's anything else anyone is interested in on that page

Evan, I actually got turned onto the song by East Village Radio on Twitter, I just decided to post the Merge link cause you know direct from the source/label etc. So, I didn't do any extra research, just sent you the original stream I heard.

I dig this song, though I bet there will be some higher highs on the record. Excited for sure though.

Track is killer. I want to make this kind of music with people.

Very excited for this record, and would've been even if I'd heard nothing prior to the release.

Hah, I have wanted to make music like this with people for a long time. Hard to find folks who can do it though ....

It all starts with a good tuning or two.

one time this dude in a band who played a show with my old band told us we sounded like polvo and i couldve kissed him

Cool, would love to have gotten that compliment! You should start a band with Evan.

We could all start a band. You guys move here- fair?

Hah, only a couple of years ago I worked in Hoboken and lived in NYC, but I am in Virginia now. As Polvo is a southern band I think everyone has to move here ....

Aw man, a real life reverse commuter. Well darn. I used to manage the record store Tunes in Hoboken. One time I was playing the new Polvo in the store and some dude was so into it and had never heard of them. He ended up buying it all excited "this is totally my thing, isn't it?! [directed at his girlfriend/wife]" It made my day.

Too bad you moved out. I live super close to the PATH.

Man, I worked like two blocks from the PATH station, we could've had Polvo sessions whenever. The real commuters hated me btw, couldn't handle someone heading against the stream. But yeah, my wife finished grad school and we decided to mave back south. That's cool that you turned someone onto Polvo via the new record, still feel like that record got slept on a bit.

Odd "worlds colliding" set of facts: a guy I went to high school with randomly ended up being a colleague at the company I got a job with in Hoboken. A long time ago I noticed that the photo credit for the shot on the back of "Shapes" was credited to someone with the same name as the guy I went to high school with, and so when we went out to lunch to catch up (in Hoboken) I finally got a chance to ask him about it (he had lived in Chapel Hill at one point in his life). Turns out it was definitely his photo, and the reason it was used for the record was because he had lived with Dave Brylawski! Wild. He gave me a really cool Celebrate the New Dark Age tour poster he had sitting around, cause he didn't know any other Polvo fans.

And it would have blown my mind if I ran into a guy I went to high school with that simply heard of Polvo! That is pretty wild.

BTW you should have come up for at least one of the nights during the last run of Maxwells shows!

Was not in the cards unfortunately. Not so easy for me to wing it on up to NYC/Hoboken these days. My favorite part of working there was running into Steve Shelley on my way to the PATH. I always gave him a big thumbs up, cause I love that guy (I ran into Thurston a bunch of times on the Lower East Side as well, which is funny, cause I had very few celebrity run-ins in New York, but Sonic Youth is pretty much my favorite band and I ran into those two a bunch).

It was definitely cool that an old friend of mine was buddies with someone in one Polvo, but generally I didn't know anyone else into Polvo at all until they were broken up for the first time, only met them later in life.

Yeah! Steve used to come in to buy buzzcocks reissues and another time I saw him at taco truck. Mysteriously absent at all the end of maxwells events...

Steve is such a nice guy, and pretty busy. Maybe he was recording or rehearsing for a tour or something. Is he not in the current version of Lee Ranaldo's band, which I think did play one of the last Maxwells shows?

Oops, forgot to respond here! I'm not sure if he is, but they did indeed play one of the last Maxwells shows. I didn't go to that one though, despite going over and over right up to the end. Funny because I kept buying tickets to them but since I've worked the door often and knew so many people there personally I got stamped in to each show immediately. Turns out I could have gone to that one too!

Them = the last run of shows

Aww hell yeah, here it is, "Siberia", full-on album stream:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-av-club-is-streaming-polvos-new-album-siberia,103189/

Can't listen right now myself, but will do so as soon as I can!

!!!!!!

Hah hah. Feel free to let me know what you thin Evan if you check it out, I won't get to it for a bit and I am hoping the response is "Fuck yeah this rules".

Uhh, think that is.

It's... so easy-going compared to all the rest. I'm loving it!! Just ordered it.

I've ordered way too many records... after a lull there are just so many nice new records and reissues that have been coming out.

rules

Fuck yeah

Yeah, my first time through and I definitely dig it. First impression for me is that it is less easy-going than "In Prism", but I have to listen to both to see if I really think that. Seems to have more of the old Polvo knottiness and anti-hooks as hooks than the last record (though by no means is it a vast return to Today's Active Lifestyles or anything) whilst still retaining some of that new-found grooviness. Some surprises too: acoustic guitar on "Ancient Grains" (and background vocals like I can't recall hearing from them for quite some time), keyboards (some of which were cool some half-baked), and some really tight proggy bits. A lot of good playing all over the record basically.

Yeah maybe easy-going was the wrong way to put it. Maybe I was looking for "fluid"? Also I love all the crazy sound effects they're playing with throughout. Sounds like they had fun.

Yeah, this sounds like a band fully enjoying being a band for sure. It is definitely confident/fluid, but to me less loping/laid back than the last one. A good follow-up for sure, and I bet these songs are good live.

I used to love their first two records in high school and stopped listening after Celebrate the New Dark Age. I saw them in Houston with Unwound at Numbers and it was a awesome show, I was 19. It's funny cause I just put them on my ipod last week to listen to while driving around looking for records. I had no idea they released a new album, I'll have to check it out.

Both new ones are very good! Some people were put-off by the more muscular/alt-rock moments on the last one. I certainly didn't mind/interpret them as embarrassments.

Hah that was mainly me Evan, and just for the song "Beggar's Bowl", which I hope I didn't suggest was too embarassing. I actually think it does what it does very well, it is just not "my" Polvo. The rest of "In Prism" I sincerely love however, and that song comes across better in context than as the first song available from the record (for me at least). Really it is astounding how good both of these records are, so happy they are active again.

Ah! Though I'm sure you weren't alone in that beyond this board at least.

I wonder if these guys get studio musician work. Everything they do just seems to be so not-standard and in the most expert way possible.

Oh! Another album!

Their first album is probably my favourite, but Today's Active Lifestyles has one of my favourite songs -- "My Kimono".

It's been a while, though.

am finally listening to the new one and tbh this is a true fucking pleasure from first to last

Yeah I love it

for some reason i love jamming polvo in the car. looking forward to doing that with this one.

They were my favorite band was I was 16. Not so much these days.

Siberia is way better their previous reunion album, but it still sounds like a bunch of older guys covering unreleased Polvo songs.

That's because the upbeat songs are great chase scene music!

Xpost

The hippy was gone before the lights came on

I actually thought "Beggar's Bowl" went in the direction I always wanted them to go in. Never felt like they rocked hard enough. Even at their most rocking in the past, like "Fractured Like Chandeliers" or "Every Holy Shroud", it never quite KICKED ASS like "Beggar's Bowl." Does the new album rectify this?

Uhh, it's definitely propulsive, but it's not necessarily the surprise potential alt-rock hit direction that Beggar's Bowl was. It is fantastic, though!

Also I don't know I think they've definitely rocked just as hard or harder on Cor-Crane Secret at least.

"light, raking" is a surprise keyboard jam

that song is so well timed for the start of autumn

keyboard bit is vv goofy but i love it anyhow

new record sounds fine but i wish the sound was dirtier, like it was back in the 90's..

Could be dirtier, but I expected some conservatism. Same with the last one.

relatively

I didn't realize my pre-order of Siberia would come with a signed poster! Maybe I just forgot?

I have tried to start #AshBowieWednesday on Twitter but to no avail. :)

Weird, this old band of John Dwyer (Ohsees, Coachwhips, Pink and Brown, etc.) and Brian Gibson (Lightning Bolt) sounds exactly like early Polvo, I mean guitar moves completely copped from the S/T and Cor-crane albums. Pretty fun to listen to actually, minus a little throwaway action here and there:

https://soundcloud.com/daylongs/sets/tar-aiym-krang-ii

I mean, in 1997 I was in the exact same headspace as these dudes.

RIP Eddie Watkins, you ruled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA9LPMOqpCc

I will always love these records, yet another bummer. His drumming was perfect for mark 1 of this band.

One of the most formative records for me period. My favorite EP of all time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3wrxfkEbQQ

Again, the drumming is perfect on that record for the sound/approach.

Ffs I just played TAL (again) today

RIP

Argh! That's awful!!

That's a real shame, I love Polvo but especially the earlier stuff. RIP.

Blasting "Every Holy Shroud" right now.

Crazy, he (and Ash I think?) was a chef at 411 West on Franklin Street wayyyyy back in the day when Chapel Hill was one of the coolest places on the planet.

His son said on FB that it was completely unexpected, passing in his sleep.

From what I know of him over the past 20 years, he was a hard working family man who loved his wife and children more than anything.

Super shitty news indeed

I mean, I listened to a lot of Bowie and Prince in my life, but I've probably listened to more of Polvo.

What a very nice, sweet gentleman... who also was a ferocious drummer for the first 6 years of that crazy band.

When he left, I felt Polvo was never quite the same.

i wouldn't change a thing about those early polvo records. way too young of course. rip.

i was feeling glum and then the purple bear popped up on my ipod <3

i'm so excited i could just explode
cross your fingers and it might get shown
i told my parents to stay up late
but it's half past two
and there's been a mistake

RIP

so he was the drummer up to and including Exploded Drawing? such amazing records for many reasons, definitely including the drumming. sad I never saw the original lineup live

Yeah, Brian Walsby replaced him before Shapes and after Exploded Drawing... sometime in 96/97.

I've driven (literally) my wife crazy drumming along to his parts on the steering wheel many many times.

Cranking "Exploded Drawing" so loudly right now. Haven't listened to this for 10 years or so (cause I wore it out so heavily when it came out it is kind of internalized forever hah hah). So damn good.

"Exploded Drawing" is so awesome - that was my go to on hearing the news - damn good drum record.

RIP

I had the t-shirts on the left and the right:
http://i.imgur.com/21nHrUD.jpg

this video is amazing, and so is this song. DISCUSS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMa4-d3JW-8

I love that song. Cool guitar solo and nice outro synth doodles too

love that warbly guitar thing in the middle and the end. how fucking cool is that?

They do a good job of writing classic rock-esque anthems without really sounding like anyone else at all

Fantastic song. In Prism was my favorite album of 2009, but I couldn't get into Siberia for some reason. I guess I have to try again.

love the filigree, not so much the song. my favorite polvos tend to be fragmentary, abrasive, only secretly tuneful.

Emil from Holy Sons/Grails/Om covers them in the latest episode of his excellent podcast: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1633582233421734&id=1280469688732992

The closing credits of the above podcast contains an amazing lost/forgotten Polvo-related track from Dave Brylawski:

Idyll Swords - "Autumn In Empire"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PATFus6yUf8

Totally missed that the Can I Ride ep got reissued as a mini album last year with the two songs off the Vibracobra single stuck on the end. Looks like it was some sort of record club edition? Gone now though - FUCK

Cor Crane Secret and Today's Active Lifestyles get a vinyl reissue this coming week - i kind of want them to replace my own long gone copies but it looks like they've uglified the covers for some reason

New interview:

https://www.talkhouse.com/polvo-finally-appreciates-their-own-music-sort-of/

Avalon - Downhill Together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKhsJTrCmo

Haha yes that is amazing

https://vimeo.com/4531300

~30min HD pro-shot interview/live footage (warts n all) from the 2009 reunion era:

Fast Canoe
Enemy Insects (loose jam outro)
Every Holy Shroud (new slower intro, spacey long middle section)

Speed Stick - Knots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnO0wp-YYKA