Find a song on ILM that everybody HATES

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Right, the daft imitation sequel.

Find a record everyone hates, but it has to be something otherwise acclaimed (so no Michael Bolton). Does anyone actually like "Yesterday"?

But-I've-Never-Heard-It excuses not valid - to post here, you have to have suffered (Well, not until the end, as before).

Graham, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Must give credit to Kate for her original idea:

You'd no more be able to find a song on ILM that everybody loves than you'd be able to find a song on ILM that everybody *hates*. As evidenced by the fact that there has *never* been a band or artist or genre raised on ILM that has been so dire that someone hasn't stepped in and said "Hey, I *like* [n]!"

Graham, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i don't hate 'yesterday'. it is a bad choice, i think, because i don't believe it evokes in anyone any seriously offensive reaction, or does it?

keith, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The obvious choice - "Imagine"

tarden, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I hate 'Yesterday' with a passion, and I am indifferent to 'Imagine'

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like "Yesterday." I hate "Imagine."

I nominate:
"Light My Fire"
"Rock the Casbah"
"Jeremy"
"Today" (Smashing Pumpkins)
"Tonight, Tonight" (Smashing Pumpkins)
"Hotel California"
"Stairway to Heaven"
"Roxanne"
"Everybody Hurts"
"Creep" (Radiohead)
"Fake Plastic Trees" (Radiohead)
"Big Time Sensuality" (Bjork)
"I Want You To Want Me"
"Rebound" (Sebadoh)
any They Might Be Giants song
"Willie the Pimp" (Frank Zappa)
"Caught A Lite Sneeze" (Tori Amos)
"Comfortably Numb"

Otis Wheeler, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I have deleted all songs I like from the above list.

I nominate: "Light My Fire" "Jeremy" "Tonight, Tonight" (Smashing Pumpkins) "Hotel California" "Stairway to Heaven" "Roxanne" "Everybody Hurts" "Creep" (Radiohead) "Big Time Sensuality" (Bjork) "Rebound" (Sebadoh) any They Might Be Giants song "Willie the Pimp" (Frank Zappa) "Caught A Lite Sneeze" (Tori Amos) "Comfortably Numb" Anything by At The Drive In or Godspeed! You Black Emperor

JM, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Come on, if it's going to be a Smashing Pumpkins song, "Disarm" is the one to go for.

tarden, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And what may I ask is wrong with "I Want You to Want Me"? Nothing by Cheap Trick should be mentioned anywhere in connection with this thread ever!

tarden, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mmm, They Might Be Giants. Someone defend 'Birdhouse In Your Soul', then. Oh, and add Instanbul (Not Constantinople) in for good measure.

John Davey, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like "Disarm." Cheap Trick suck.

Otis Wheeler, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like "Stairway to Heaven" and "Hotel California".
I HATE HATE HATE "Sy Borg" by Frank Zappa and "Down Under" by Men at Work.

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'kokomo'?

maura, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ahem. I like : "Yesterday", "Light My Fire", "Rock The Casbah", "Today"/"Tonight Tonight"/"Disarm", "Everybody Hurts", "Creep", "I Want You To Want Me", "Rebound", lotsa They Might Be Giants (incl. "Birdhouse In Your Soul" and "Istanbul"), "Willie The Pimp", "Comfortably Numb" and "Down Under".

I can live with "Imagine" and "Roxanne", however overrated they are.

"Jeremy", however, SO does belong on this thread.

I nominate Anita Baker's "Sweet Love" and Sade's "No Ordinary Love".

Patrick, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

a.) This is not the best way to make friends, but I like They Might Be Giants. There.

b.) I'll also admit to liking "Light My Fire," "Roxanne," and "Big Time Sensuality," liking GYBE!, and not necessarily believing that At the Drive-In quite deserve to be labeled the worst thing ever.

c.) Only one song has ever made me actually, literally vomit: an early 90s r&b chestnut called "Freak Me," by Silk. (The chorus kicked off with "I want to lick you up and down. . .") I suppose it's not relevant, but I guarantee everyone here would feel the same way about it.

d.) Surely everyone could rally their hatred around something by Tin Machine?

Nitsuh, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Beach Boys, no? I like it. I also like Big Time Sensuality and Comfortably Numb. Soooo I'm voting for "Everybody Hurts". Indeed they do, when hearing that song.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Relight my fire -take that

Ed, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Wouldn't "Kokomo" break the "otherwise acclaimed" rule ? Never heard anyone say a good thing about it.

The entirety of Bjork's recording career belongs here. I'm backing "Big Time Sensuality" even though I'm not sure I've heard it.

Patrick, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Jeremy': Magnetic Fields? You really hate that? I sure don't.

I hate the whole of tons of artists' output - heck, I hate entire genres - but I think that naming large swathes like that is off the point, when what you're after is a single record.

Don't think I hate much of what's been named so far, except possibly Led Zep.

OK, I nominate, for starters: 'Ride On Time'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like "Imagine" and "Yesterday". If it's gonna be a Beatles record, make it "The Long and Winding Road". Please.

"The Drowners" by Suede is an overrated monstrosity, imho.

Johnathan, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I don't think "a song everyone hates" is quite right. What we're really looking for is a "Classic or Dud?" where we can find closure. So we need an alleged Classic that's really a big smouldering Dud. You have to actively like a song to veto it.

Graham, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad by Meatloaf. Or really, substitute almost any Meatloaf song. Can we actually find anyone who actually actively likes Mr. Loaf on this board? (Rocky Horror fans are exempt)

masonic boom, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Also there's a version of "Light My Fire" I like — it's just not by the D**rs. Is "Everybody Hurts" by REM? I like that.

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I actively like Mr Loaf — tho "Two out of Three" I am admittedly merely indiff abt. I think stepping back from SONG EVERYONE HATES is a pity — but this IS Graham's own bitch. "Ride on Time" is fantastic.

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like Meat Loaf. I like "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad". Bat Out of Hell is a good record.

Otis Wheeler, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I have just proved my original point right. There is *nothing* so bad on this board that someone won't defend it. Meatloaf. QED.

masonic boom, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What was the name of the song with the endless drum solo on "Southpaw Grammar"? (I guess I've repressed it pretty well.) I can't imagine anyone who likes Morrissey defending it--and there are plenty of people who hate Morrissey already, of course.

X. Y. Zedd, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

(Kate hates Abba *and* Meatloaf — I think I must check out the Strokes after all!)

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

We are (as usual) all on crack. The answer is Bryan Adams and "(Everything I Do) I Dot It For You"

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Er, something like that...

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The name of the Morrissey song is "The Operation." And *I* like it, thank you very much. :-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

No problem with that nomination. At all.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Meaning the Bryan Adams song.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like much of the Loaf's "Bat out of Hell" record, particularly the long tracks. Don't even bother putting anything from Boston on here, either; I love their first coupla albums. :)

"Everybody Hurts" is a good choice, but I can think of one that might even be a better contender: "Shiny Happy People".

Joe, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Worst. Thread. Evar!

, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Robbie William's cover of Freedom by George Michael!

Alexis Dicks, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ducking head down.
everybdyhurts makes me feel wanted.

anthony, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like: "Light My Fire," "Rock the Casbah," "Today," "Roxanne," "Creep," "Fake Plastic Trees," "Big Time Sensuality," "Willie the Pimp" (sheesh, why all the hatred of Zappa hereabouts? I like "Sy Borg," too).

I Hate: "Jeremy," "Tonight, Tonight" (wasn't there also an awful Genesis song with this title too?), "Hotel California," "Stairway to Heaven," "Everybody Hurts," "I Want You to Want Me," "Rebound," "Caught a Little Sneeze" (hate just about anything Tori Amos has ever done).

Indifferent towards "Comfortably Numb." Can take or leave They Might Be Giants.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh yeah, I also like "The Operation." And I'm someone who generally hates Morrissey's solo stuff.

I never thought I'd find anyone else who likes that one, though. ILM never fails to amaze, does it?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Is there a Genesis song called "I Can't Dance" [or v.similar] which I am manfully blocking from proper recall. Or is this a screen memory blocking flashback of being abducted and abused by yetis as a wee'un...

(I was played "Sy Borg" by someone kindly- meaning who thought I would like it, and I disgraced my entire family and upbringing in my rude response. It helped me like other Zappa tho = not as awful as "Sy Borg".)

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And where the hell is the Grateful Dead on people's "I Hate" lists?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The Dead: in UK nobody knows their songs, just a vague idea of their, like, image. (Did they even have 'songs'?)

I like 'The Operation' OK, but it's not a solo highlight.

That Genesis song: I have a feeling it was bad, but can't remember it.

Robbie W: GREAT choice. If anyone can unite people in dislike, it's he.

Possible thread definition: "A Song That Every Contributor [To The Thread - and by extension ILM] Actively Dislikes". Cos that requires having-heard-it (though Mark S thinks I should be exempted from that and not allowed to vote at all), but 'Hate' is a bit too strong to achieve consensus.

the pinefox, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Robbie W is OK by me — but I don't think I know that song. (Which by Pinefox logic means I just nixed it... frustrating, hey!?)

Oddly enough I earlier worked out a rationale by which my argt re Pinefox on the EVERYONE LOVES IT bitch entirely didn't apply (at least re Pinefox) on this one: but now I can't recall it, or even reconstruct it by extant thort-processes.

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Turn the Page" by Bob Segar. (Just now flipped on the radio and the station was playing this steaming pile of musical turd.)

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mark S is working out logics by which arguments against me do and do not apply?

I think I've arrived.

the pinefox, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Jeremy" - Didn't have a problem with PJam until this silly piece of melodramatic tripe.

Jason, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I can remember that Genesis song and it did indeed suck mightily. I'd go with Robbie W, but I reckon Angels is more likely to have been heard and therefore loathed than Freedom.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Okay, please tell me that you hate that song that goes "Doctor Doctor, Gimme the News, I got a bad case of luvvin' you!" That is the worst fucking song in the universe, hands down. Awful, retchingly terrible, and I can't bring myself to believe someone on this board might not hate it.

Clarke B., Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Agreed. I (or you, if you like) hereby nominate 'Angels'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

gimme 3 steps -lynard skynard Take it easy - Eagles blister in the sun - violent femmes

Cash Lone, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i don't think that many of these suggestions, like the bryan adams and the genesis and the meat loaf and the morrissey, are nearly critically acclaimed enough to justify inclusion. the dudliest beatles classic for me is "hey jude." i hate "yesterday" and "imagine" too though. ooh, another nomination: "rainy day women." "just like a woman" too. i like (or at least don't dislike) the following from otis's list: "Today" (Smashing Pumpkins)

"Tonight, Tonight" (Smashing Pumpkins)

"Stairway to Heaven"

"I Want You To Want Me"

"Caught A Lite Sneeze" (Tori Amos)

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Possible thread definition: "A Song That Every Contributor [To The Thread - and by extension ILM] Actively Dislikes". Cos that requires having-heard-it (though Mark S thinks I should be exempted from that and not allowed to vote at all), but 'Hate' is a bit too strong to achieve consensus.

Depends on the aim of the thread, but I also now think finding something (well known) that no one confesses to liking is just as interesting, and it takes care of the haven't-heard-it issue. Remember the "Suggesting Michael Bolton is cheating" condition, though it's difficult to apply to someone like Robbie Williams, who's ::duck:: made more competent pop records than people give credit for.

Graham, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Hey Jude' = Possibly the worst song ever written.
'Imagine' = ACTUALLY the worst song ever written.

DG, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Freebird - Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Wonderful tonight - Eric 'God' Clapton.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like ALL the Pumpkins songs. Hey Jude is prolly the worst suggested so far, or tied with Genesis. "I Will Always Love You" is, I think, also terrible. The cheap trick track is out A) because I like it B) because the intro on Live at Budokan should be liked by many ("I want YOU. To want ME.")

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I a mvoting for any new country espically Garth Brooks . Lets say the dance

anthony, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like "The Dance." I like Garth Brooks, I have that boxed set w/all his albums, some of it's pretty good. Don't bother mentioning any Dead, I probably like it. I like "Just Like A Woman." But "Rainey Day Women" sucks. So does "Hey Jude."

Otis Wheeler, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

bob seger played at my parent's high school dances, if you are gonna chose one of his songs it would have to be 'like a rock'.

keith, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

what about "have i told you lately that i love you?" by van morrison? it blows, is there anyone who would disagree? for the record, i hate "yesterday", that genesis "i can't dance" is bloody awful, and i don't like "everybody hurts" either. i will not hear anything bad said about cheap trick or meatloaf.

lady die, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like those Lynryd Skynryd songs. I love "The Drowners." I love "I Will Always Love You" if it's by Dolly. I like "Take It Easy."

I hate hate hate "Jeremy", "Yesterday", "Hey Jude", "Rainy Day Women", "Wonderful Night."

And I hate: Paul Simon-"Call Me Al" and "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover." Don Henley-"Boys of Summer" The Who-"You Better You Bet" and "Who Are You" Sheryl Crow-"All I Wanna Do"

Arthur, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Noone's defended Bryan Adams yet, & I ain't about to - though I did see him live once - my brother bought me the ticket, alright? Um, I like Jeremy - great video, Pearl ZJam were really good there for a while; everybody Hurts is way cool, I could nominated Agadoo - but that has a retro rectum feel about it, so I'll have to stick to...Celine Dions My Heart Will Go On.

Geoff, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Geoff: I think that gets nixed by the Michael Bolton rule. But I'm declaring an amnesty anyway. It was in the charts long enough that someone round here must like it. We'll try not to laugh.

Graham, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I veto "The Long And Winding Road", "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad", "Shiny Happy People" (why do so many people hate that one ?), lotsa Grateful Dead, "Gimme Three Steps", "Take It Easy", "Blister In The Sun", "Rainy Day Women", "Just Like A Woman", "The Dance", "Have I Told You Lately", "You Can Call Me Al", "50 Ways To Leave Your Lover", "The Boys Of Summer" and "All I Wanna Do" on account of I like them all (I'm apparently the perfect opposite of Tanya).

I'm neutral about "Hey Jude", "Bad Case Of Lovin' You" and "Freebird"

Don't Meat Loaf, Bryan Adams, "The Operation", "I Can't Dance", "Wonderful Tonight", Garth Brooks, Whitney's "I Will Always Love You", "Like A Rock", and "My Heart Will Go On" all break the Michael Bolton rule that says it has to be an *otherwise acclaimed* song ??

Patrick, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love Whitney's "I Will Always Love You," I like Genesis's "I Can't Dance," I've found myself humming along cheerfully to "My Heart Will Go On," and I actively don't dislike "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You," which I think is an achievement because I used to hate the song. And how are Grammy winners and million-sellers not "acclaimed"? Of course they are. Anyway, Phil Dellio once called "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You" perfect, and Chuck Eddy put Bryan Adams into Stairway To Hell (though not for that record), so don't be so sure of yourself.

My nominee: Starland Vocal Band "Afternoon Delight."

Frank Kogan, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I leave that on Davids cellphone as a clue.
Okay proably too much inforamtion but anyway i love that song.
Shania Twain ?

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Afternoon Delight' probably didn't sell as much as 'Honky Tonk Women', which I have NEVER been able to tolerate.

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

While we're burying the 60s, "Turn!Turn!Turn!" (as seen shilling 'Time' magazine), "Voodoo Chile" ('This is great, when's it over'?), "I Can See For Miles" (ditto), "For What it's Worth"(mentioned elsewhere on this board in connection with T. McVeigh - oh alright, by myself), "Something in the Air" (somebody found a worse singer than Pete Townshend), and bloody bastard "House of the Rising Sun" are items I would cheerfully forego hearing ever again.

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

> 'Afternoon Delight' probably didn't sell as much as 'Honky Tonk Women', which I have NEVER been able to tolerate.

I'm not so sure about that one, Tarden. "Afternoon Delight" did make it to Number One over here, after all.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I used to despise that Celine Dion track at the time, but then after That's The Way It Is came out I reevaluated my Celine-phobia, and am now revisionist on the My Heart Will Go On issue. And the Bryan Adams track is one of his better ones, almost as good as Run To You. Also, I like all the Who tracks mentioned, because I tend to like The Who. "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane should be nominated though. "Desperately Wanted" by Better Than Ezra is also nominated. Also that Geggy Tah song about driving in your car and et cet.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I can't let you have house of the Rising sun.

but how about Mr Loaf - Iwould do anything for love (but I won't do that)

even if you like him this must be totally excrable

Free as a bird - three living beatles and a dead one sing a song not good enough to relaese in the first place Leader of the Gang - garry glitter Tragedy - Steps Lady in Red - Chris Rea Montage - Kenny G Puff daddy Faith evans-missing you Phil Collin's entire career after he stopped being a drummer Michael Jackson - Heal the world

Enough for yous

Ed, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I wondered when someone was going to mention ol' P. Diddy.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"White Rabbit" is OK. I want to see ANYONE defend Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Give it Away" though.

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

> I want to see ANYONE defend Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Give it Away" though.

Ummm, it's better than "Californication"?

What I would like to see is someone try to defend "Aeroplane."

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Phil Collins had some lovely moments that sneak up on me everynow and then on canned music being piped through various public areas, before I realize that I'm listening to phil collins.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Three Phil Collins shameful pleasures: "Sussudio," "I Don't Care Anymore" and "Take Me Home." Plus he did drum for Brian Eno.

Still, none of that excuses "I Can't Dance" or "Tonight Tonight Tonight."

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Tonight Tonight Tonight" = better than "Sledgehammer" or "Red Rain" by P Gabriel

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

> "Tonight Tonight Tonight" = better than "Sledgehammer" or "Red Rain" by P Gabriel

I think I'll put out my last cigarette in my eardrums right now ...

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Sledgehammer" is under suspicion for featuring a flute. As do, for some mysterious reason, "Thick as a Brick", "Wind-up", "Locomotive Breath"

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

> "Sledgehammer" is under suspicion for featuring a flute.

I don't wanna know what Tarden thinks of "Spill the Wine," "One Night in Bangkok," or Zamfir ...

Betcha Gina Vannelli and Leo Sayer never used flutes!

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Take it easy'. Just imagine if Don Henley was your flatmate and he drank all your milk and when you got pissed off he said "take it easy, its only milk man". Also 'Blinded by the light', 'beautiful boy' and that song that goes, "just keep a-rockin me baby"

Jess Brunette, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Spill the Wine' is awful - but then, trumpets in pop are even worse than flutes! Which leads me to the two worst songs in history, "Leader of the Band" and "Longer", both by the challenged-in-every- department-including-some-yet-undiscovered Dan Fogelberg

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

So erm...is there any song still left standing. Just to make sure *every* song by Bjork gets a veto. 'Freebird' is pure genius, same goes for 'White Rabbit' you fools. :)

Imagine sucks arse though. New Beatles nomination: Octopus Garden. Those Red Hot Shitty Crappers songs mentioned all get my okay. Another nomination: P.Collins - 'Another day in paradise'. Please defend that one!

And my favourite P.Collins moment: 'In the Air Tonight' as featured in Miami Vice.

Omar, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'd have to agree with 'Beautiful Boy', Cibo Matto is bad enough without someone writing a sappy song about one of their associates. But "Rock'n'Me"? "Don't be suspicious/now don't get suspicious" is one of the all-time great couplets!

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

> trumpets in pop are even worse than flutes! Which leads me to the two worst songs in history, "Leader of the Band" and "Longer", both by the challenged-in-every- department-including-some-yet- undiscovered Dan Fogelberg

I've always suspected that Stuart Murdoch was empowering his Inner Dan Fogelberg by letting that crappy trumpet player play all the time.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Steve Miller's "The Joker" definitely deserves some sorta poo-toss for inspiring "Pompatus of Love," one of the all-time crappiest movies.

And any song with a "talking guitar" deserves to mentioned in this thread, too!

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Nobody has seen it . Why kill it instead of ignoring it .

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Rocky Mountain Way"! Anything bad enough to get covered by Triumph must have something negative going for it!

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Don't go dissing "Hey Jude". It's a good record for one reason : you can hear John swearing when he fluffs the backing vocal. "Stairway" and "House of the rising sun" are just overrated, not offensive. "Turn turn turn" is the second worst 'classic' ever. "Imagine" is the worst. But I would like to nominate "Touch Me" by the Dours, if it hasn't already been done.

Sam, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Nope, 'Touch Me' = ace. 'Hey Jude' too. Really, nobody's going to defend 'Octopus Garden' unless they are on crack.

Omar, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Its a cute and fun song . Not deep but fun .

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Historical revisionism happening here? Nobody's mentioned the crimes against nature perpetrated by my personal favorites CSN&Y. "Our House", "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes", "Just a Song Before I Go", "Southern Cross", "Ohio"! The fact that Neil Young associated himself with these bozos says more about the Canadian inferiority complex than 300 hours of CBC documentaries ever could!

And what about "Love The One You're With"! Does the impossible, gives sexism a bad name!

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Love The One You're With" - what a floater that song is. But not really a so-called classic so does it qualify? "Marrakesh Express" is better-known and possibly even grottier. Despite being about dope.

Sam, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Woo-hoo, more vetoing of stuff I like : "Afternoon Delight" (which I've heard only once, but I did enjoy it), lotsa Shania Twain, "Honky Tonk Women", "Turn Turn Turn", "I Can See For Miles", "For What It's Worth", "Something In The Air", "House Of The Rising Sun", "White Rabbit", "I'm The Leader Of The Gang", a few Phil Collins songs (incl. "Another Day In Paradise"), "Heal The World", "I'll Be Missing You", "Aeroplane", "Sledgehammer", "Red Rain", "Locomotive Breath", "Beautiful Boy", "Spill The Wine", "Octopus Garden", "The Joker", "Touch Me", "Ohio" and "Marrakesh Express".

Eh. Sorry !

Patrick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What about Step By Step by NKOTB

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Wait! Wait! What about "Radio Song" by REM? The one with the rap in the middle.

Sam, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Was "Radio Song" a single?

Nearly forgot "Knockin' on Heaven's Door". If I was St Peter I'd let him in, only because it would mean he was dead. "Blowin' in the Wind" is also garbage. Ask any 9-yr-old who's forced to sing it in school.

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, and "Nights in White Satin".

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

isnt it Knights in white satin.
I *heart* all REM records because Michael Stipe is a sex god.
I liek most of tardens suggestions as well . How about 9-5 by Dolly ?

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Word on Knocking on Heaven's Door and Blowing in the Wind, two of the of worst songs ever. I'll make life easier any song by Dylan or Zappa gets my okay.

Nights in White Satin is also crap.

Omar, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I will defend New Kids on the Block, purely for sentimental reasons, mind. I nominate Heal The World by Michael Jackson.

Madchen, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Anthony Easton is not allowed to korrekt anyone else's SPELING!!

I like 9-5.

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I worship Dylan, if he sang his grocery list i would be 100 % behind it . Michael is a little too messianic but it is not an unredeemable song.

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

About my spelling, its getting better . Anyhow its a question of meaning ( knight is different then night)

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

yeah but you were\wrong anyway. it is nights. & i sort of don't hate it.

duane, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

yeah Knights in White Satin is by Giorgio Moroder, also very bad. Maybe some Queen song? 'We are the Champions'? Mick Jagger - 'Lets Work', Jagger & Bowie 'Dancing in the Street'? 'We are the World'? Any Michael Jackson song other than Billy Jean/Beat It?

Omar, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'll stand up for we are the champions by queen but nominate. Feed the world by band aid.

Ed, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What is the hatred of Michael on this board . He is cool, with his slick and sexy pop. Yes its overproduced but i would sooner hear Blood on the dancefloor then any teen pop made in the last 20 years.

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Being one of those pesky indie kids who read Freaky Trigger, I'm afraid I can actually tolerate most of the overhyped alt rock suggested so far. I would, however, be happy with pretty much any of the older songs suggested, and very happy indeed if we/you were to choose Hotel California, Roxanne, Stairway to Heaven or any of the Beatles songs mentioned. (Actually StH and the Beatles songs are never as bad in reality as I remember them being, but still...)

I remember that "Freak Me" track Nitsuh mentioned, and I definitely hated it at the time. However, I would not be surprised if those with more Freaky-Trigger-ish tastes liked it.

If we waive the criterion about being acclaimed, I second Lady In Red (it was Chris deBurgh, not Chris Rea, which you may say makes little difference, except CR is merely nondescript moustachey bloke with five thousand dreary and forgettable MOR AOR albums, whereas CdB is quite possibly in the top ten smuggest slimiest men alive and responsible for truly truly awful music that lodges itself in your head for weeks until you'll happily trepan yourself in the hope of removing it, so I thought I might as well correct you). Would anyone try to defend that?

The only possible defence I can see is that Bill Bailey's Cockney Piano Medley (mp3 on this page), which includes that, Eye of the Tiger, Wuthering Heights, and various other things, is (in my opinion [*]) hilarious, but I refuse to accept that as defence since BB himself has described Lady In Red as the worst song ever on many occasions.

Not astoundingly acclaimed, but as much as Meatloaf, surely? Loads of people I knew at high school, including possibly the most musical of all my friends, thought it was a fantastic song, which admittedly isn't really what I imagine you meant by "acclaimed", but there we go.

[* I have a feeling everyone else on here probably hates all the tv/radio comedy I like, including Bill Bailey (I actually quite liked Drop the Dead Donkey and I have vague memories of DtDD getting a unanimous slating on a CoD). But if anyone does follow that link they might wish to download the spoof "Pop Goes The Weasel" in the style of Philip Glass, which for my money is bang on.]

rebecca, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i shall conform to type and dismiss bill bailey. he is crap. the end

gareth, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ooh ooh, I know ! Bob Seger's "Ol' Time Rock And Roll" and the Eagles' "Heartache Tonight". Beat THAT !

Patrick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Bryan Adams "Let's make it a night to remember" -- as I have mentioned before, the only song that ack-sher-ly makes me nauseous. But really, any 90's Bryan Adams singles will do.

Nicole, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I second "Old Times Rock'n'Roll".
How could I forget 4 Non Blondes' "What's Up?"?

tarden, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh boy how *did* we forget 4 Non Blondes! :) Yes to that, Bob Seger and that Eagles shit.

Omar, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think we've got some serious problems with the 'otherwise acclaimed' thing. How come Michael Bolton's not allowed but Bryan Adams is?

I don't think many of the candidates listed have much a rep in the press, which is the only way I can think defining 'acclaim' that differentiates it from 'record sales'.

Nick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Excuse me. Why are we wasting our time w/all this stuff which is merely very mediocre? WHY has NOBODY mentioned this yet:

"DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER" by O-ARSE-IS

Come on. Look me in the eye and tell me that isn't worse, nay, MUCH worse than any of thee stuff mentioned above. Last year I had ROOT CANAL WORK, right? It Sux0red, but, in all honesty, I wd rather have more root canal work than listen to DLBIA again. If I hear it come on in a shop, I will leave.

That or elton's di-tribute atrocity anyway.

xoxo

Norman Fay, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yo, Graham, define the Michael Bolton criteria more precisely, 'cause I think it's gonna cause problems (I agree that the rule should be there, BTW, otherwise we'll just immediately agree on some Vanilla Ice piece of swill and split).

Patrick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mmm, IMHO that piece of tuneless shite called 'Wonderwall' is even worse. Elton John Di-song = yea, of course.

Omar, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think we've got some serious problems with the 'otherwise acclaimed' thing. How come Michael Bolton's not allowed but Bryan Adams is?

Y'know, my immediate/irrational response to any inquiry involving hideous music is always "90s Bryan Adams". I can't help it. A more serious reply would be "Fools Gold" by the Stone Roses. Is not successful as a dance single nor as an indie/rawk single.

Nicole, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yes I forgot abt "acclaimed" when I suggested B.Adams: tho Mr Frank Kogan's point — Yo! Frank!! — is pertinent, in that sales and ENDLESS RADIOPLAY = acclaim... If we are allowed to a pick and choose a "them" whose acclaim we reject, we are hardwiring the answer, instead of exploring for the nature of answer-ness.

However, Adams has recorded with Mel C, and Mel C rox0r, and this is a species of acclaim which = not mere record sales.

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

genesis - illegal alien, more offensive even than the other phil collins/genesis songs mentioned above

any cover of a motown song recorded after 1980 generally blows chunks production & performance-wise, with the added bonus of sacrilege...see mr. Collins' contributions to the genre, The California Raisans and The Commitments (though these might not fit the thread, it's not the song I hate, it's the bands...)

the rolling stones - saint of me (?) - a lame attempt to get jiggy with the kids by enlisting the dust brothers to remix a ripoff of a kd lang song - a complete embarassment all around

madonna - hanky panky from the dick tracy soundtrack (not to be confused with tommy james and the shondells' classic hanky panky)

chuck berry - my ding-a-ling - his only number one hit, his biggest piece of crap not caught on hidden video

fritz, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I find 'Don't Look Back In Anger' quite affecting if I'm in th right mood. 'Wonderwall' is dreadful however. As is 'Angels'. Both have been wildly praised. Does anyone on ILM like either of them?

Nick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Wonderwall is appalling.

Richa, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ok, I'll change My vote to "Wonderwall", in accordance w/thee original q, viz:

Find a record everyone hates, but it has to be something otherwise acclaimed

Now, Will anyone speak out for it? (ans=inevitably yes...)

xoxo

Norman Fay, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I will absolutely stick up for 'Wonderwall'. Melody, texture, dynamic.

I fear that this thread is doomed.

the pinefox, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sales & endless radioplay acclaim: "Don't Worry Be Happy" -Bobby McFerrin

Traditional critical acclaim (?): "Ob-la-di-ob-la-da" - Beatles

Everyone *should* hate "What's Up", though. Thank you, Tarden.

Arthur, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Milli Vanilli won a Grammy. Is that acclaim enough? Girl You Know It's True.

Madchen, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love Angels but Wonderwall ia acceptable.

anthony, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The Micahel Bolton rule: Basically it's to stop cheating, so the song has to be intended (or considered) to be good. While Bryan Adams is probably *trying* to make a good classic record, Michael Bolton probably isn't. Bryan Adams is rubbish through rubbishness, MB is just targeting a demographic. This also (possibly) excludes generic boy band type stuff. (However, due to some of the confessions above, it may be unnecessary)

Cat Power's version of Wonderwall actually shows it up as being quite good, but we'll have to find someone who likes the excrutiating Oasis version before it's out.

Graham, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Actually, all things considered, "Wonderwall" isn't that bad. Not having heard the song for 2+ years certainly helps.

I nominate 4 Non-Blondes' "What's Going On". Bad as a limp alt-rock anthem, bad as a dance track. B-b-b-b-b-b-bad.

David Raposa, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I DO like the Oasis version. That's what I just said, above.

the pinefox, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The problem w/4 non-blondes is this bit of thee original q.

but it has to be something otherwise acclaimed

no-one liked it when it came out, and it's a mystery to this day who aktually bought it.....

I'll go along w/mr. pinefox - this is clearly a hopeless quest. If people will leap to thee defence of "wonderwall" & "Don't look back in anger", then (IMO) it's hard to imagine anything that will fit......er, hang on, how about "Blue Room" by the orb? They were quite "acclaimed" and that did indeed blow goats...any takers?

xoxo

Norman Fay, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Blue Room = ace...endless joy. Pinefox doesn't exist therefor 'Wonderwall' is still on ;)

Omar, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"The problem w/4 non-blondes is... no-one liked it when it came out"

Steven Wells did. He made it Single of the Week in the NME. If I had my way the most hated song would be 'I'm Like A Bird' - Nelly Furtardo, I pysically CANNOT listen to it, when it comes on I lunge at the radio to turn it OFF.

But I'll go along with any Robbie Williams track, really.

DavidM, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm in absolute agreement with Dave here! The Nelly Fritatta single is the worst thing to grace commercial radio in ages -- it's much much worse than any of the nu-metal ilk.

nicole, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"What's Goin On" is a lovely single. "Supersonic" on the other hand... and is it too soon to nominate "yellow"?

Sterling Clover, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

It is certainly not too soon to nominate Yellow. It stinks.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

BLURILLAZ! No, wait, *I* liked that. However the Stereophonics are DETESTABLE!!

WHO WILL DEFEND "Mr Writer"?!?

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I LOVE TONIGHT TONIGHT.

There, I said it. Take that you bastards.

I'd unequivocally shoot down anything by the Eagles or Fleetwood Mac. It doesn't matter what. it's awful. Horrible. There's nothing at all worse, besides "Everybody Hurts".

Ally, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'll stick up for "Supersonic." Used to like "Don't Look Back in Anger," though the annoying Lennon-isms have crept up on me and now I'm just indifferent. There's no defending "Champaign Supernova" AFAIC.

I'll also defend (somewhat) Lindsay Buckingham-era Fleetwood Mac. He had a good ear for tunes, he was the Brian Wilson of the Seventies and if it wasn't for him Fleetwood Mac would have become the British Santana (which would not have been good).

I agree that there's no defending the Eagles, jointly or severally.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Pinefox may not exist but I do. Wonderwall's one of the great melodies of the nineties. I also quite like Yellow. Basically anything with a double l in it. Which also explains my Go-Betweens obsession, rather neatly.

Ally C, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i liked "wonderwall." i even have some nice memories associated with "don't look back in anger." (geez, wasn't expecting to ever be on this side). might help that i didn't have the latter shoved down my throat.

as the critical acclaim thing goes, i don't think a couple good reviews should be enough, especially if they're by chuck eddy. if it's to mean anything, then the song should be something that's been clearly canonized. thus, beatles, hendrix, even zeppelin nominations make sense but not eagles or meat loaf or bryan adams.

also, i do not agree that bryan adams is out to make critically acclaimed classics. "summer of '69" may, however, rate as a classic in my view of things.

sundar subramanian, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Good lord yes, DO put me down under "makes me retch" for both Bob Seger and the Eagles. Include all Steve Miller too. And George Thoroughgood. And John Mellon Cougercamp. AND Mariah Carey's 'Hero'. *shivers*

Kim, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sundar: No one specified critical acclaim. Massive sales or airplay also count. As long as someone vaguely relevant (in the loosest sense of the word - ie not grannies) genuinely thinks it's good. While it would be great to take out a holy cow, I don't think we will. Hence Bryan Adams isn't excluded.

Graham, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Champagne Supernova is the greatest song ever written.

Ally, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh shit yeah, "Bad To The Fuckin' B-b-b-b-bone" by George Thorogood, surely we can all agree on its fundamental wrongness.

Patrick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

All Georg Thoroghgood is evil but not as evil as Blurs song 2

anthony, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Aye, good one there Anthony, so yes to Song 2. But there must be more Blur to hate.

Buckingham-Nicks era Fleetwood Mac = classic, all of it.

Omar, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'The Living Years"!

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Martika, "Living Years"
That Echo & The Bunnymen song from "Lost Boys"
Hell, anything with a children's choir, INCLUDING "You Can't Always Get What You Want"
I like "Song 2". At least it doesn't overstay its welcome.

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I meant "All Fall Down" by Martika!

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I vaguely remember...ahem...liking that Martika song. 'You can't always get what you want' = genius and so gets nixed.

Omar, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Santana - "Maria", oh hell "Black Magic Woman" too!

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

why has nobody nominated anything by U2? and that really should be anything by U2, but I Still haven't Found What I'm Looking For is particularly unbearable....

So, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yea!! U2, another can of worms. 'Still haven't found...' = shit, 'With or without you' = shit, 'In the name of love' = shit, 'Where the street have no name' = shit, 'The Fly' = shit, 'Lemon' = utter shit, etc. etc.

Omar, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

omar speaks the truth

gareth, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

He does. I was going to mention U2, but I fear there are too many sick, sick, people who will nix them.

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Count me as sickie #1! U2 = Classic!

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yes, well, let's not turn this into another U2: Classic or Dud. But surely there must be one of their wretched tracks in which even U2 fans must recognise the lack of worth. How about 'The Sweetest Thing'? I mean you couldn't fail to want to beat Bono about the head after hearing that, surely?

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sure, who wouldn't want to beat Bono about the head? But just for being Bono, not for "Sweetest Thing"!

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

actually, on reflection, 'One' (or whatever the hell the thing is called) must be the absolute pit of pits... I can't even think of a Pearl Jam song worse

So, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love all of Blur. Yes, even Song 2, way back before I used to get my head kicked in by stagediving jocks.

masonic boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ALL Blur? Surely that doesn't include "Country House" or the insultingly bad "Magic America"?

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Blur, OK, but that Gorrilllazz stuff, bleugh, ouch! That last single, don't know it's name, "I'm lucky, feeling fine..." or however it went, misguided twaddle, which sorta reminds me of the travesty that Shaggy has made over of Angel of the Morning, loathsome! surely no-one likes that??

So, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Country House? any song written to diss Alan McGee is worth tolerating!

So, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I believe Carsmile Steve likes Gorillaz.

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

It wasn't to diss Alan McGee, it was to diss David Balfe from Food. Wrong record company there. And yes, even Country House. Simply because Damien Hirst did the video. Album tracks are dismissed under the "everybody here must have heard" rule.

masonic boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, not McGee then. Oh well, memory faulty, also I'd forgotten the Hirst vid, which puts it well into dodgy territory. Wasn't this around the same time as 'Stereotype', sorry I've never really taken much notice of Blur post Parklife...

So, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Forgive me if this is further up the thread, but now that we're trawling the waters of Britpop - Suede, "Electricity", "Trash", "Filmstar", "Lazy"

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'll stand up to defend 'Black Magic Woman' but only the original version, the 2000 version can go to hell for having its sould completely stripped out.

Ed, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

As I said upthread, I like Gorillaz: that first single anyway. And the huff-puff bullying of the swinish multitudes has not swayed me an inch. So it is nixed.

All this fiffling around in the main reaches of BritPop/BritRock is silly, as we kno of old that they have their fond defenders. To re- iterate: WHO WILL DEFEND "Mr Writer"?

(Is that what it's called? The Stereophonics song about how rubbish rock critics are?)

Interesting how much hatred and bad memory intersekt: it's not just me, you can read it all up the thread, from King-Geek MemoryMen of Ev'ry Stripe and, er, Stroke...

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

How about "A thousand trees" by the persistently bloody awful Stereophonicks. theyr honest, down-to-earth, unpretentious (etc etc) sub-husker-du dirge makes my a$$ drag, and this is an especially stinky example. Actually, scratch that, becuz "Just Looking" is EVEN WORSE!

The problem w/4 non-blondes is... no-one liked it when it came out" Steven Wells did. He made it Single of the Week in the NME.

I am not in the least bit surprised by this SWeLLS is/was/will be a complete idiot. Sven Hassell, classic or dud, Swells? eh? eh?

xoxo

Norman Fay, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i quite like suede.

gareth, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Stereophonics? just kinda unremarkable really, indifferent, don't hate but never liked. Dull. Now Stereo MCs... what are they for? Appalling overrated dross... "Connected" - hate that with a passion.

So, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You *would* like Suede.

But that's OK, so do I.

Alright, if you can find someone to defend the Stereofuckingphonics, then I will actually give up and say that my claim was rubbish. But you have to genuinely LIKE them, not just think they're not bad.

Then again, someone wandered onto the "London Indie" list by mistake and started saying that he liked Stereophonics and even Toploader, so honestly, you never know...

masonic boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Stereophonics = shite

Stereo Mc's = great.

Omar, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Add me to the list of people who hate hate hate the Stereophonics. Kelly Jones is so dumb and punchable. "Mr. Writer" = idiotic & annoying.

Nicole, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Interesting point re "Mr Writer" - you'd think somebody would champion it, going by all the NME-bashing on this board. Too bad it's not by somebody else than Stereophonics.

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'A Thousand Trees' is a good call. At least 'Mr Writer' is funny.

As far as I can see, the following are still standing. I've omitted lots that I either don't hate myself or don't think are well known enough to count, however acclaimed they are in certain quarters:

What's Up? - 4 Non Blondes
Angels - Robbie Williams
Blister In The Sun - Violent Femmes
Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid
Lady In Red - Chris De Burgh
Hanky Panky - Madonna
A Thousand Trees - Stereophonics
Don't Worry, Be Happy - Bobby McFerrin
The Living Years - Mike & The Mechanics
I Can't Dance - Genesis
One - U2

and I add...

'Walk Of Life' - Dire Straits

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Stereophonics are double plus ungood. BUT critical acclaim for them is hardly deafening. I don't think I've read a review of anything they've done that has gone much beyond neutrality. Sure, they get a lot of coverage in the press but most of seems to be dull interviews to please ver kidz (who all love them, apparently).

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

But you have to genuinely LIKE them, not just think they're not bad.

Nah, the thread says 'find a song that everyone HATES', so that's what I'm sticking to.

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Mr Writer" - you'd think somebody would champion it, going by all the NME-bashing on this board

I dunno. As far as I can make out Mr Writer is an 'all critics are evil fuckers' whinge rather than an 'NME critics are evil fuckers' whinge. It's a big step from disliking the NME to disliking criticism in general.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like "I Can't Dance". Sparse arrangement, good Bon Scott parody.

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

One is U2's best song, sorry.

Mr. Writer, however, is the most godawful dirge I've ever heard. They're pretty much the worst band in the universe. I can tolerate REM, Travis, the Smashing Pumpkins, the Magnetic Fields, AND the Beach Boys more than I can tolerate the Stereophonics, if just by the basis that THOSE bands have at least one song each that I can listen to (or even like), while Stereophonics clearly were put on this earth simply to annoy me. And they're all ugly to boot, bastards.

Ally, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, and I also like Blister in the Sun, Hanky Panky, Do They Know It's Christmas?, and, on some level, Lady in Red. Am I destroying this? I seem to ONLY like the songs no one wants to defend, jesus.

Has anyone mentioned the blatantly obvious My Heart Will Go On? I mean, it won an Oscar so it falls under acclaimed (unfortunately), but I have never met anyone besides my cousin who likes that song.

Ally, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You've all been WAY too easy on yuppie-metal. "Right Now" by Van Halen, defend it if you can!

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'My Heart Will Go On' - sorry, but that modulation near the end just KILLS me.

tarden, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Don't know that Van Halen track, tarden. I'm determined not to let this U2 thing go, though. Could you nominate a well-known song of theirs that you hate? Or do you think it all rocks?

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yeah, don't tell me you actually like 'Lemon'?

Omar, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i'm standing up for "bad to the bone" and any other thorogood i've heard, if only out of morbid fascination.

i thought everyone liked "blister in the sun." it's ok by me.

i've never heard the stereophonics. (are they popular outside the uk?) or travis for that matter. i don't think i've heard a complete song by suede.

"right now" is dismal, i agree. i think i actually hate everything by van halen.

just to clear something up: tarden, are you the same guy who was opposed to all melody and song structure on the noise thread?

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

there is a Happy Hardcore version of 'my heart will go on' which is worth having the original around for.

Celine sounds like pinky and perky and keeps getting interupted by 200bpm breakbeats and piano breaks

The original is vile though

Ed, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love Robbie Williams And that Madonna track is a camp classic . So thos two arent universally hated.

anthony, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You *would* like Suede.

i'm curious. why do you think this? (you are correct)

gareth, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You just fit the profile, Gareth. ;-)

And I've seen your haircut.

It's not an insult, BTW, just a considered estimate (lucky guess?)

masonic boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Another bunch of songs I like that I'm vetoing from this thread: "Radio Song", "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", "Blowin' In The Wind", "We Are The Champions", "Let's Work", "Dancing In The Streets", "Do They Know It's Christmas", "What's Up", "Wonderwall", "Fools Gold", "Hanky Panky", "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da", "I'm Like A Bird", "Champagne Supernova", "Song 2", "You Can't Always Get What You Want", "Maria Maria", "Black Magic Woman", all the U2 songs that Omar mentioned except "Where The Streets Have No Name" and "The Fly", also "The Sweetest Thing", "One", "Country House", Shaggy's "Angel", "Trash", "Filmstar", "Lazy", "Connected", "Blister In The Sun" (again), "Walk Of Life" and "Right Now".

That oughta narrow it down a little. Y'all should try nominating *bad* songs for a change ;). Graham, are you keeping track of all this ?

Patrick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

From Nick's list: I PASS (as Bad):

Angels - Robbie Williams; Lady In Red - Chris De Burgh; and, oh, OK, 4 Non Blondes, though not heard for years.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You don't hate 'The Living Years' and 'A Thousand Trees', pinefox? That's crazy talk.

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I LOVE "THE LADY IN RED". I don't care what you all say.

Does anyone remember the name of that Phil Collins song that won the Oscar from "Tarzan"? Because that was awful. Another bad one: "Desert Rose" by Sting. "Desert Arse", more like.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I can see why one would dislike 'A Thousand Trees', but am not going to nominate it for this particular vote. But 'The Living Years' - no, I LIKE 'The Living Years'. Quite a lot. (Did I never get round to mentioning it on 'Ambushed By Unexpected Emotion'?)

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The challenge is to come up with a song that everyone on ILM hates or dislikes. This was based on someone's (Kate's?) statement that it couldn't be done. She's probably right. Oddly, Graham and Patrick (the two worst offenders) have smugly and ignorantly - sorry, but you walked into it - decided in advance that, for instance, everyone on the list WILL dislike Michael Bolton and Vanilla Ice, and you two are not willing to put this to the test, your unstated assumption being that Bolton's and Vanilla's audiences are beneath contempt and that therefore acclaim from those audiences doesn't count as acclaim. Graham used the word "relevant" ("as long as someone vaguely relevant (in the loosest sense of the word - ie not grannies) genuinely thinks its good"), but I hear "relevant" as "beneath contempt." Just how are Bolton's and Vanilla's fans "irrelevant"? Did they go to the wrong prep school? Wear the wrong tie? LISTEN TO THE WRONG MUSIC? (And isn't this the very notion that Kate or whoever was originally trying to test?) So either the "no Michael Bolton" rule is suspended, or I'm off this thread. (Not that you should care, given that I'm irrelevant. See below.)

I've like some Bolton, disliked others, can't remember any of the song titles (which makes me useless as well as irrelevant). And Patrick, "Ice Ice Baby" was the best hip-hop single of 1990 (the flip, "It's A Party," was just as good).

Way up in the chain I vetoed "My Heart Will Go On," which I like, as well as "I Can't Dance," which someone else also vetoed but keeps recurring (and to forestall its being nominated, I'll point out that I like Genesis's "Jesus He Knows Me" or whatever it's called, the one that sounds like Phil Ochs's "Crucifixion"). Lots of songs keep recurring here despite being vetoed. Again there's a smugness and ignorance: you don't believe that someone will like the song, so you don't notice when they do.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Though I'll say in Graham's defense that he wrote "thinks it's good" with an apostrophe. Sorry for the mistype.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Frank, I can't speak for Graham, but I took the "acclaimed" criteria to mean *critical* acclaim, admittedly not something easy to quantify, but not entirely meaningless either - there's no inherent dismissal of Bolton's or whoever's audience there (maybe they should become critics - I'd love to see good writing in defense of Adult Contemporary). The idea for me is to make the fun last longer by eliminating from the start the songs people always go for in this situation ("Having My Baby" or whatever) so that there can be some arguing, and some rocks being thrown back and forth, rather than everybody immediately agreeing on some MOR ballad that wasn't conceived to please music geeks in the first place.

I've broken the rule myself by now by nominating "Bad To The Bone", so I'll just say fuck it and bring out the heavy artillery : Gloria Loring's "Friends And Lovers", Jack Wagner's "All I Need" and Patrick Swayze's "She's Like The Wind".

Patrick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Frank, calm down, all that the Michael Bolton rule is there for is to give this thread some kind of usefulness. There's no point in discovering that no one here likes Daniel O'Donnell or some silly novelty record. Patrick kind of made the point but he took it too far: Vanilla Ice was not who I meant (And Bolton wasn't an exact example), and music geeks have already confessed to liking many MOR ballads. The point of the thread is "How low will we go?" not "What's the worst song you can think of?" (Taking low as the viewpoint of the stereotypical ILMer). I think that's what Kate was asking, and I only chose Michael Bolton because that's who was suggested in response to Kate's comment. I don't know him well enough to comment. Anyway, stop trying to turn this into an intellectual discourse on what musical taste is. This is meant as a frivolous piece of fun as to what people will own up to liking. If you want to discuss why some artists are generally unfairly disliked by musos, start your own thread about it.

And before anyone else misinterprets it, I NEVER SPECIFIED *CRITICAL* ACCLAIM. Airplay, sales and widespread liking are also important, as long as someone (who probably should no better) genuinely likes the song. Again, if you want to discuss why some groups of people's opinions are dismissed by music crit, start a thread about it.

Full list of remaining nominees to follow shortly, please take theory/meta discussion elsewhere.

Graham, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

decided in advance that, for instance, everyone on the list WILL dislike Michael Bolton and Vanilla Ice, and you two are not willing to put this to the test

I'm completely willing to put Michael Bolton to the test, as proved by you vetoing them, so we'll have to find something else. What we're doing is working our way down from the top, there's no point in choosing something entirely unlikeable and us all agreeing. Michael Bolton was suggested by someone else as an example of something unlikeable (read the original finding something everyone likes thread). And Vanilla Ice was Patrick's foolish suggestion. I consider it a harmless pop record, certainly not something that would be automatically universally disliked.

Graham, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

this thread depresses me. this will be my last contribution to it but i must ask frank:

really? i mean "ice ice baby"'s not bad but do you sincerely prefer it to "mama said knock you out" or "brothers gonna work it out" or "let your backbone slide" for that matter? hell, i'd even take "bust a move."

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Warning: Fantastically long post ahead.

I've just spent well over an hour searching through this thread, so there are probably lots of mistakes. One question - People are definitely vetoing things that haven't even been nominated - Er, why? Stop nominating whole bands, but feel free to veto them (Except I don't know who all these are by, so they may not have been applied). And stop being so vague with vetoing and suggestions - "Actually I like that one" Who? NB the Michael Bolton rule is really a guide for suggestions, not for compiling, so it hasn't been applied here.

Stuff that's definitely nominated but hasn't been obviously vetoed:

"Stairway to Heaven"
"Hotel California"
"Wonderful tonight" Eric Clapton
"Lemon" U2
"Candle In the WInd 97" Elton John
"Where the streets have no name" U2
"Give It Away" Red Hot Chilli Peppers
"Miiiiiiiiiister Writeeeeeer" Stereophonics
"Free As A Bird" Beatles
"Knights In White Satin"
"Tragedy" Steps
Tin Machine

"Sweet Love" Anita Baker
"No Ordinary Love" Sade
"Freak Me" Silk
"Turn the Page" Bob Segar
"Like A Rock" Bob Seger
gimme 3 steps -lynard skynard
"Freebird" Lynyrd Skynyrd
"Voodoo Chile"
"Desperately Wanted" Better Than Ezra
Geegy Tah
"Kokomo"
"Love The One You're With"
"Blinded by the light"
"Rocky Mountain Way"
"Leader of The Band"
"Longer"
'We are the World'
"Ol' Rock And Roll Time" Bob Segaer
That Echo & The Bunnymen song from "Lost Boys"
"Don't Worry Be Happy" Bobby McFerrin
"Heartache Tonight" eagles
"Thick as a Brick"
"Wind Up"
"Tonight Tonight Tonight."
"Sy Borg" by Frank Zappa
"Montage" Kenny G

Stuff that I couldn't tell whether people were admitting to:

"My Heart Will Go On"
GYBE!
"Everything I Do" Bryan Adams
Anything by At The Drive In

Stuff that people really have admitted to (thus disproving that we're music snobs):

"Yesterday"
"Light My Fire"
"Rock the Casbah"
"Today" (Smashing Pumpkins)
"Tonight, Tonight" (Smashing Pumpkins)
"Hotel California"
"Stairway to Heaven"
"Roxanne"
"Caught A Lite Sneeze" (Tori Amos)
Grateful Dead
"Everybody Hurts"
"Fake Plastic Trees" (Radiohead)
"I Want You To Want Me"
"Disarm" Smashing Pumpkins
"Shiny Happy People"
"Hotel California"
blister in the sun - violent femmes
"The Long and Widing Road" Beatles
"Spill The Wine"
"The Joker" Steve Miller
"beautiful boy"
"Missing You" Puff Daddy
"aeroplane"
"Locomotive Breath"
"I Will Always Love You"
"You Better You Bet" The Who
"Call Me Al" Paul Simon
"Rainy Day Women"
"Another Day In PAradise"
"House of the Rising Sun"
"All I Wanna Do" Sheryl Crow
"50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" Paul Simon
"Heal The World" Michael Jackson
"Leader of the Gang" Gary Glitter
"Afternoon Delight" Starland Vocal Band
"Boys of Summer" Don Henley
"have i told you lately that i love you?" by van morrison
Take it easy - Eagles
"Stairway to Heaven"
"Rebound" (Sebadoh)
"Birdhouse in Your Soul" They Might Be Giants
"Istanbul" They Might Be Giants
"Imagine"
"Roxanne"
"I Can See For Miles"
Shania Twain
"Turn! Turn! Turn!" (NB Not travis)
"I Can't Dance" Genesis
"Ob-la-di-ob-la-da" Beatles
"I'm Like A Bird" - Nelly Furtardo
"Sledgehammer"
"Hanky Panky" Madonna
"For What it's Worth"
"Something in the Air"
"Ohio" CSN+Y
"Bad To The Fuckin' B-b-b-b-bone" by George Thorogood
"Willie the Pimp" (Frank Zappa)
"Down Under" by Men at Work.
"Comfortably Numb"
"Honky Tonk Women"
Bjork
"Jeremy"
Meatloaf
"Ride on Time"
Suede "Trash", "Filmstar"
"Lady in Red" Chris de Burgh
"Connected" Stereophonics
Gorillaz
"Country house" Blur
"Supersonic" Oasis
Fleetwood Mac
"Yellow" Coldplay
"Champagne Supernova" Oasis
"Song 2" Blur
"All Fall Down" Martika
"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
"Maria Maria" Santana
"Black Magic Woman"
"Sweetest Thing" U2
"One" U2
"Wonderwall" Oasis
"Blue Room" The Orb
"Don't Look Back In Anger" Oasis
"Step By Step" NKOTB
"Blowin In The Wind"
"9-5" Dolly Parton
'We are the Champions'
Jagger & Bowie 'Dancing in the Street'
"The Living Years" Mike and The Mechanics
"Walk of Life"
"Right Now" Van Halen
"Feed The World" Ant Aid
"Knocking On Heaven's Door"
"Angel" Shaggy
"Fools' Gold"
Mick Jagger - 'Lets Work'
"What's Up?" 4 Non Blondes
"A Thousand Trees" Stereophonics
"White Rabbit" Jefferson Airplane
Garth Brooks
"Hey Jude"
"The Drowners" by Suede
"The Operation" Morissey
"Touch Me"
"Marrakesh Express"
"Radio Song" REM
"Octopus' Garden"
"Creep" (Radiohead)
"Freedom" Robbie Williams
"Angels" Robbie Williams

Graham, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And Vanilla Ice was Patrick's foolish suggestion.

No more foolish than "Bryan Adams is acceptable but Michael Bolton isn't", dude :-p

Patrick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

OK Patrick I'm coming out. I like the U2 songs. The Bobby McFerrin song is ace (even though his version of Drive my car is better). G!YBE and ATDI are great.

The rest suck like week old pony shite though.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I veto "Like A Rock", "Freebird", "Rocky Mountain Way", and "Ol' Time Rock 'N Roll".

Otis Wheeler, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Definitely vetoing Where The Streets Have No Name. I FUCKING LOVE U2 PEOPLE GET WITH THE PROGRAM HERE. I also love No Ordinary Love by Sade, Blinded by the Light (preferring Bruce's version, OBVIOUSLY). I will also defend Everything I Do (I Do It For You) as a camp classic on par with (Can't Live Without Your) Love and Affection and I Will Do ANything For Love (But I Won't Do That) (obviously parentesis are important in camp). And what the hell is wrong with The Joker or You Better You Bet, damnit?!!!

Um, does anyone in this bitch like Crazy Amazin' Cryin' by Aerosmith?

Ally, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Stairway to Heaven"
The best dryhump high school dance song ever. "Hotel California"
i like this alot "Wonderful tonight" Eric Clapton
havent heard this "Lemon" U2
No to bonos messianic complex "Candle In the Wind 97" Elton John
Why did Elton John think Diana deserved Marylins sloppy seconds
"Where the streets have no name" U2
see lemon "Give It Away" Red Hot Chilli Peppers
have not heard it "Miiiiiiiiiister Writeeeeeer" Stereophonics
Have not heard it . "Free As A Bird" Beatles
Necrophilia "Knights In White Satin"
no "Tragedy" Steps
Have not heard it Tin Machine "Sweet Love" Anita Baker "No Ordinary Love" Sade "Freak Me" Silk
attery clogging "Turn the Page" Bob Segar "Like A Rock" Bob Seger gimme 3 steps -lynard skynard "Freebird" Lynyrd Skynyrd
someone is overcompensating for small penisis "Voodoo Chile"
have not heard it "Desperately Wanted" Better Than Ezra
pseudo grunge - vile "Kokomo"
i love this song . "Love The One You're With"
i dont hate this "Blinded by the light"
i have no feeligns towards this "Rocky Mountain Way"
i do hate this "Leader of The Band"
havent heard "Longer"
stupid 'We are the World'
messiah complex "Ol' Rock And Roll Time" Bob Segaer
redeemable by risky buisness That Echo & The Bunnymen song from "Lost Boys"
see Old time rock and roll "Don't Worry Be Happy" Bobby McFerrin
inernally optomistic "Heartache Tonight" eagles
i like "Thick as a Brick"
i hate "Wind Up"
havent heard "Tonight Tonight Tonight."
i love "Sy Borg" by Frank Zappa
Zappa can do no wrong "Montage" Kenny G
i hate this

anthony, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

In case you weren't paying attention, I DEFINITELY vetoed 'My Heart Will Go On'. And if I haven't done the same with 'Lemon' and 'Sweet Love', I meant to.

tarden, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I left a cafe today because they put on 'Red Red Wine' by UB40.

Momus, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'll take "Red Red Wine" over "No Woman No Cry". Incidentally, just what the hell is that title supposed to mean?

tarden, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Both suck...although No Woman/No Shite sucks worse. Probably means that women gave Bobster a lot of shite for smoking dope/playing footie all the time, and life would be much better without them. Yeah ol'Bobby the voice of humanism, etc.

Omar, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hey sorry about this late contribution but have only skidded in an blazing hot rubber tyres. I nominate Chris de Burgh's 'Lady in Red' cos it makes me physically sick.

Missus Mo, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

To prevent this thread from foundering on the rock of 'eligibility', why not consider this simple test - would the song annoy us partly because we would encounter it in a context in which we would expect not to hear anything that would bother us unduly? If so, it should qualify. F'rinstance, I hear Peter Cetera's "Glory of Love" in the coffee shop on my way to work every day, but if I went into crit mode (or even LISTENER mode) when I was in there I'd go insane.

tarden, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ok, i`ll post once more to say that i definitely vetoed "stairway to heaven," "blister in the sun," "caught a lite sneeze," "today," and "tonight, tonight." and i like "thick as a brick" if we`re talking about the 30-minute jethro tull thing.

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Will people stop trying to redefine the thread. I no I haven't been very coherent, but that's no need to change it. For a song to be eligible:

1. Nobody confesses to liking it.

2. It has to be well known enough for people to be in a position to confess. This is a group consensus thing, not a pinefox "But I don't know it" thing.

3. It has to be a proper record. I'm sorry this is so vague, but it's just to stop people nominating stuff that no one could possibly admit to, and the whole thread is about discovering how far we have to go to find that.

We'll choose winners at the weekend, and I veto any Steps up to and including "Tragedy".

Graham, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

oh, and i vetoed george thorogood too.

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Why is every third post Graham inexplicably post that people are redefining his thread and he's had it? I mean, it can be apropos of nothing, it just appears. It's like it's a rule to remind us ;)

I am out of suggestions anyhow. Mr. Writer still seems the solid choice from where I'm standin'.

Ally, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jesus christ - I haven't contributed to this thread for 25 posts, and up comes a 'pinefox I don't know it' category??

No, I don't know all music. I know what I know. I have a feeling we all do.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like "Birdhouse In Your Soul", if only because it's probably the only chart hit to mention 'filibuster vigilantly'. It's that rare beast: a novelty record with wit.

The music that currently has me reaching for the "off" button has to be the latest one by Gorillaz. Which is a perfectly witless novelty record. I now can't avoid the creeping sensation that Gorillaz are the one pop act more cynical than Hear'Say. And to me, it does not withstand repeated plays. Which isn't good for a highly-playlisted record.

"Frontier Psychiatrist" by the Avalanches comes a close second. Constant radio plays has quickly waned the appeal of what is, again, basically a novelty record: some Australian students armed with a sampler and a batch of other people's records and movies. "Since I Left You" worked brillianty and is one of my favourite singles of 2001. But this.... Well, the best I can say is it was quite funny the first time I heard it.

On second thoughts, no it wasn't.

Dickon Edwards, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Hollywood Hills" by Bob Seger?

"Every Day is a Winding Road"?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"the one pop act more cynical than Hear'Say": I can think of hundreds of pop (and rock and rap and jazz and _____) acts more cynical that Hear'Say. Many such have been tossed around further upthread. Should anyone feel like nominating either of H'S's well-deserved (= justly acclaimed) #1s, I'm a-nixing them RIGHT HERE.

mark s, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You're an icon, pinefox.

Josh, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ally: I got hooked on the cheap sadistic kick of being a bitchy totalitarian dictator. I’ll stop now.

I’m vetoing Frontier Psychiatrist. I’ve removed bands and brought the list up to date. Veto anything that you like (I'm waiting for Mr Writer - It got played on the radio and didn't kill their career, so someone must like it).

Left for your consideration:

Tarzan stuff - Phil Collins
"Desert Rose" Sting
"Red Red Wine" UB40
"No Woman No Cry" Bob Marley
"19-2000" Gorillaz
"Hollywood Hills" Bob Seger
"Candle In the Wind 97" Elton John
"Voodoo Chile"
"Freak Me" Silk
"Turn the Page" Bob Segar
"Gimme 3 Steps" Lynard Skynard
"Wonderful tonight" Eric Clapton
"Desperately Wanted" Better Than Ezra
Geegy Tah
"Love The One You're With"
"Leader of The Band"
"Longer"
"We are the World"
"Mister Writer" Stereophonics
"Don't Worry Be Happy" Bobby McFerrin
"Wind Up"
"Knights In White Satin"
"Give It Away" RHCP
"Tonight Tonight Tonight."
"Free As A Bird" Beatles
"Montage" Kenny G

Newly vetoed:

"Lemon" U2
"Where the Streets Have No Name" U2
"Like A Rock" Bob Seger
"Freebird" Lynyrd Skynyrd
"Rocky Mountain Way"
"Ol' Rock And Roll Time" Bob Segaer
"No Ordinary Love" Sade
'Blinded by the light'
"Everything I Do" Bryan Adams
"Stairway to Heaven"
"Hotel California".
"Kokomo"
"Sy Borg" by Frank Zappa
"Heartache Tonight" Eagles
That Echo & The Bunnymen song from "Lost Boys"
"My Heart Will Go On"
"Sweet Love" Anita Baker
"Thick as a Brick"
"Tragedy" Steps
"Frontier Psychiatrist" Avalanches

Graham, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I did not know that Echo & the Bunnymen had a song in _The Lost Boys_. It wasn't the one with the kiddie chorus, I hope?

I urge all of you to focus your hatred upon the stinking turd that is Sting's _Desert Rose_. Pop's most notorious tantric tourist plops an unsuspecting international pop star (with a singing voice, Gordon - you know what singing is, you hawk-nosed pseudo-poetic jackass?) into a fucking car commercial. Feel the loathe.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sheryl Crow is the bomb, stop dogging her.

Ally, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Someone actually liked Mick Jagger's "Let's Work"? I'm dumbfounded ...

Oh, and by the way, I brought up the RHCP's "Aeroplane" as a HATE song, not something I liked. Unless someone else is gonna dumbfound me and say they like that one, too (after someone saying that they like "Let's Work", I don't think I could ever be dumbfounded again).

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Tadeusz: Blame Patrick for both.

Graham, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think I can see the attraction of "Let's Work" - it's actually more offensive than GG Allin, Anal Cunt, and Patrick Sky combined.

Why so many Bob Seger songs left unmentioned? "Fire Lake", "Against the Wind", "Shame on the Moon", "We've Got Tonight", "The Fire Inside", and battling it out for least (can't decide which is the ne plus ultra of ghastliness), "Shakedown" and "The Horizontal Bop".

Love that "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" though.

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think I'll have to veto Sting. I mean, poor old Sting.

I imagine that the Stereophonics record is bad, but haven't heard it. I think that most people have heard *about* it, but few have actually heard it.

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I already vetoed Don't worry, be happy. Gorillaz is fine with me, though I'll probably go off them in a couple of months time. Whatsa matter with you all, No woman no cry is a great song and the performance is electric (though it is the weakest song on the Live LP)

Billy Dods, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

could we clarify whether we are hating "voodoo chile" or "voodoo chile (slight return)"

wasn't the echo & the bunnymen song from the lost boys a cover of the doors' people are strange? i rather liked it.

kevan cooke, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

dude, i'm hatin both

gareth, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Another big omission - Bruce Hornsby!!! "The Way it Is", "Valley Road", "Mandolin Rain" - should've gone the way of everyone else who ever played kybds for the Dead.
Eagle droppings - Don Henley, "The End of Innocence", "New York Minute"
Glenn Frey - "Sexy Girl", "Soul Searchin'"

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What's the worst Tracy Chapman song? "Fast Car", "Talkin' Bout a Revolution", "Crossroads", "Baby Can I Hold You"?

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love Tracey Chapman .

anthony, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I will stand up for Tracey Chapman wuth you, anthony. My childhood memories are loaded with her.

Ed, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Starship - "We Built This City", "Sarah", "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now"
Heart - "All I Wanna Do is Make Love To You"

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Def Leppard, "When Love and Hate Collide", "Make Love Like a Man"
Joe Cocker, "Unchain My Heart", and Ok-what-the-hell "With a Little Help from My Friends". See, there have been worse things from Sheffield than the Human League.

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

def leppard? pour some sugar on me. oh dear, i'd really rather not.

kevan, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I veto Hornsby, Henley, Frey, Chapman and Hendrix. Gosh, what's wrong with you people?

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just to add some more to the pot - Journey - Open arms Motley Crue - home sweet home

Elton John Candle in the Wind 97' - as much as i puke at the thought of U2 (with or without you) Van Hagar (right now) and Violent Femmes my most hated single is Eltons reguritated cow cud that was a "tribute" to Lady Die. Mother Teresa passes away exactely the same time and no one gave a shit. no one cared or sang for her. She gave her life to helping others, forgoed all materialism for spirituality and humankind. Elton, wheres your single for her U rump ranger? So based on that pinnacle of materialism paying tribute to materialism my vote is cast.

cash lone, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Fuck Mother Theresa: she was a total fraud. Elton John's contribution to the assuaging of human need = far greater than MT, LD or — well, maybe not than Marilyn Monroe's, tho I'm not a fan, especially. But I cannot bring myself to nix this song, as I do not really like it terribly.

mark s, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'LL stand up for Candle in the Wind '97. Not because I ever want to hear the song again but because that post reminded me of exactly WHY I hate people who hate that song. So Mother Teresa went to fucking India or whatever and fed lepers. That's really terrific, I really mean that, it's a great act and she was a good woman, despite working for a cash cow fuckhead organization like the Church. HOWEVER, Elton John's single raised inordinant amounts of money for charity - how is that not doing good? Diana went around to fucking landmines and tried to bring awareness to that - how is that not doing good? Just cos they aren't kissing lepers doesn't mean they haven't done jackshit and you should down them on a claim as ludicrious as that. When was the last time you went to India to help lepers, hypocrite?

So yeah, I will nix Candle in the Wind. Sure, it was reguritated and really if they were such great friends perhaps stupid Elton could've wrote her her own song for god's sake, and it was not really a song I ever want to hear again, but hey, the money for the charity,come now.

Ally, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think Candle In The Wind is a pretty good song. But I thought it was CRASS to take Monroe's song and give it to Spencer, Windsor, or whatever her name was. That's not a judgement for or vs anything EJ has or hasn't achieved for charity.

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

(ps I was talking abt writing "rocketman" rather than charity...) (and I don't think m.theresa was a "good" woman: i think she was a manipulative bully...)

mark s, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I thought Mr Writer was a good call, the thing sucks, someone mail a download to those who haven't heard it so consensus might be achieved.

Also, there exists somewhere alternate lyrics for CITW for Theresa of Calcutta: Sandals In The Bin. Mwahaha.

suzy, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mr Writer clips can be found in a variety of formats here, there's a full 4.9MB MP3 here, or alternatively just read the lyrics. And for reasons to hate them, just look at this typical fan review. "they've grown up in the intervening years", " moving into a more bluesy rock and roll direction", "you can tell he's got something to say and he's not happy", etc.

Graham, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mark: I brought up the charity of the Elton single in response to the post by cash loan, actually :)

Ally, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think we're all pretty bored of this, so nominations are now closed. Veto any song that you like, and point out anything you think is too obscure for people to judge. We'll declare a winner on Monday.

The Final Nomination List

"We Built This City" etc. Starship
"Unchain My Heart" Joe Cocker
"When Love and Hate Collide" Def Leppard
"Make Love Like a Man" Def Leppard
"With A Little Help From My Friends" Beatles
"Open Arms" Journey
"Home Sweet Home" Motley Crue
Lots by Bob Seger

"You'll Be In My Heart" (Tarzan OST) - Phil Collins
"Red Red Wine" UB40
"Freak Me" Silk/Another Level
"Gimme 3 Steps" Lynard Skynard
"Wonderful tonight" Eric Clapton
"Desperately Wanted" Better Than Ezra
"Love The One You're With" Crosby Stills Nash and Young
"Leader of The Band" Dan Fogelberg
"Longer" Dan Fogelberg
"We are the World" Michael Jackson
"Mister Writer" Stereophonics
"Wind Up"
"Knights In White Satin" Giorgio Moroder
"Give It Away" Red Hot Chilli Peppers
"Tonight Tonight Tonight" Genesis
"Free As A Bird" Beatles
"Montage" Kenny G

Newly vetoed this time:

"Every Day Is a Winding Road" Sheryl Crow
"Desert Rose" Sting
"19-2000" Gorillaz
"Don't Worry Be Happy" Bobby McFerrin
"No Woman No Cry" Bob Marley
Various Tracey Chapman
"Voodoo Chile"
Various Glenn Frey
Various Don Henley
Various Bruce Hornsby
"Candle In the Wind 97" Elton John

Graham, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm vetoing "Gimme 3 Steps" because I like it (hate Southern rock in general, but always had a soft spot for Skynyrd). I'm also vetoing "We are the World" for similar reasons that people vetoed "Candle in the Wind '97" upthread -- not because I actually like the song, but because it was for a good cause and it did do some good when it was needed. All this is notwithstanding the crappiness of the song itself, or the smugness of certain of the performers of same.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Also, vetoing "We Are the World" is my revenge for the people who vetoed "Let's Work" and "Aeroplane." Heee!

(advance warning: anyone thinking about vetoing "Tonight Tonight Tonight," please think twice before doing so ... I dunno if ya wanna take responsibility fer the consequences of such an inadvisable use of yer veto power. Please be guided by this missive. Hee hee.)

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

totally not fair you're not including "Virtual Insanity" by Jamiroquai, the hands-down worst single AND video of the 1990s

Michaelangelo Matos, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I veto Beatles and Clapton; but have never heard most of the other nominations.

Stereophonics' record may very well be really awful, but from my POV the reported fact that 'they've moved in a bluesy rock'n'roll direction' is not a reason for disliking a record. I myself have moved in a bluesy direction, along with various other directions.

the pinefox, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

(I know Ally: I just did not wish my shallow triviality to be swamped in the backwash of yr big heart...)

mark s, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

No vetoes here, just a few more inductions/reminders.

Geggy Tah's "Whoever You Are" deserves to get back up on the list. No one has mentioned enjoying it, yet it's not on the final listings. A truly terrible song about driver courtesy.

Also put up Tricky's "Evolution Revolution Love". When did that man finally lose it? I mean, c'mon, Ed Kowalcysk?

Speaking of... "Lightning Crashes" = the worst song of the 90's?

Oh, and I really think Mr. Writer is gonna win(?) this contest, hands d

DoctaFresh, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Have heard none of those records. I fear that the 'winner' of this thread is going to be a record most contributors haven't heard.

the pinefox, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I've already said I don't hate 'Mr Writer', because of its comedic value. I veto 'Wonderful Tonight' just because I like it. I don't mind 'Tonight Tonight Tonight' either, and I'm sure someone else has already been even more enthusiatic. I wouldn't say I completely HATE 'Free As A Bird'. I like 'With A Little Help From My Friends'.

I would argue that the following are not well known enough to count (maybe they were bigger in the US?): "Unchain My Heart" Joe Cocker
"When Love and Hate Collide" Def Leppard
"Make Love Like a Man" Def Leppard
"Open Arms" Journey
"Home Sweet Home" Motley Crue
"Freak Me" Silk/Another Level
"Gimme 3 Steps" Lynard Skynard
"Leader of The Band" Dan Fogelberg
"Longer" Dan Fogelberg
"Wind Up" (who is this?)
"Knights In White Satin" Giorgio Moroder (this different to Nights In White Satin by the Moody Blues, yes?)
"Montage" Kenny G

Nick, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

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"Knights In White Satin" Giorgio Moroder (this different to Nights In White Satin by the Moody Blues, yes?)

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it's the same but in disco-version. Actually forget it, I only mentioned as a bit of useless information in re. spelling of the Moody Blues song. Nobody knows Moroder's version.

Nice call on that new Tricky shite.

Omar, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm vetoing "Tonight Tonight Tonight"! I like it because a)the lyrics don't make any sense and I HATE clever lyrics, b)the album version is about 10 minutes long and there should be more long songs, c)once I heard it when I was in the dentist's chair and I found it very soothing. Plus I like that one-note guitar riff.

Also, I'm vetoing "Open Arms". That song is beautiful, what's wrong with you people?

tarden, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Also, you didn't seriously think I WASN'T going to veto "Home Sweet Home", did you?

tarden, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I agree strongly with Nick D. I agree with a lot of his taste comments above, and also reckon he is quite right when he implies that most folk haven't heard the songs being slated.

the pinefox, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

But Cocker and the Leps are English! Is this anti-northern prejudice at work?

tarden, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I am a northener. I have never heard either of the def lep trax mentioned. I remember something called "pour some sugar on me". That was bloody horrible.

xoxo

Norman Fay, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Err, no. Though both Joe Cocker and the 'Leps are specifically from Sheffield, which might make it look like I close my ears quite selectively. In fact I love Sheffield.

I'd say JC and DL probably are better known in America than here. I mean Def Leppard were quite big for a while (esp. around 'Hysteria'), but I get the impression they fitted into the FM rock thing in the US much more. Joe Cocker? Never hear him over here, bar a couple of oldies tracks.

Nick, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, and I accidentally missed "Desperately Wanted" by Better Than Ezra off the WHO?? list.

Nick, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love Sheffield too - at least that's what I tell myself. I'm surprised you do the same.

the pinefox, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hey, Claptons kid fell outtve a window, so nix its wonderful tonight. Hey, G.Harrison did charities for Bangladesh so nix all beatles tune. Sting and Peter Gabriel both have done TONS of charity work so nix Desert Rose and the rest of their catalog. And to hell with Candle 97's Zeitgeist; the hypocritical media, Funeral like a giant parade, the subconscious culture worship of fame and fairy tales. We like our heroes to die young and good looking, eh? Elton can ride that crest of popularity to sell more albums and the record company gets a nice fat tax write off. It sucks she had to die so shitty. At least Lennon got an original tune from Elton.

to skidMARK S. How was MT a fraud? Dedicated 50 fucking years of her life and won a pulitzer prize. Please elaborate.

Cash Lone, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And Im nixing Bob Segar.

Cash Lone, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Pinefox, if you ever tire of the uber-trendiness of the UK music scene, I urge you to move to my neck of the woods, where the crud you vetoed (the Eagles, Sting, etc.) gets played on the radio ad nauseum.

Can't veto anything else on the list, but I throw my support behind either "Red Red Wine" or Phil Collins' odious contribution to the treacle that is the Disney animated soundtrack ouevre.

David Raposa, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Forcing dying people to convert = evil. "Winning a Pulitzer": what the fuck? She was for years the kneejerk cartoon icon of "selfless self-sacrifice" — cited on the whole by people who had not the slightest idea how she (or any other charity) actually operate. She became a lazy reach-me-down of what good duty and service shd be (as if either of these qualities are anything except traps and tricks to ensure the poor stay poor, the hungry hungry, the sick sick and the unhappy unhappy). When you actually look at the mission she ran, it is *identical* to thousands of similar outposts all over the downtrodden world — the only reason MT got singled for media sanctification out is she was better at schmoozing.

mark s, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yeah, but when else are people likely to convert? I mean, that's just shrewd business practice.

tarden, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Pinefox: I have no problem with bluesy rock and roll directions, it' just cause its a horrible cliche for this kind of band's difficult third album. What they really mean is "We've made a horrible tuneless record but we'll pretend that the fans are just aren't sophisticated enough to get it." It's goes hand-in-hand with the "They've grown up".

Nick: It probably was the Moody Blues version that was nominated. I couldn't remember who it was by so just wrote down the first thing from Google. I didn't think it was right.

Graham, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I am vetoing "We Built This City" because it's awesome, hello? Knee- deep in the hoopla! Listen to the radio! Don't you remember?

I am vetoing "Red Red Wine" - why is this being singled out? Seems harmless enough. I am also vetoing "Love the One You're With," which is GRATE.

Don't know where this "charity exemption" talk has come from. Most likely reason: bad writing.

Fully support nomination of "White Satin".

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

is it too late to throw in a vote for travis 'why does it always rain on me?'....

epitomizes everything that is *wrong* with rock and roll today.

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I don't have time to read this whole thread but here are my nominations: Toad the Wet Sprocket - "Walk on the Ocean", Chubby Checker - "The Twist", Tupac - "Until the End Of Time", Sons of the Desert - "What I Did Right", Pink Floyd - "Another Brick in the Wall Pt.2", any version of "When A Man Loves a Woman", Tool - "Schism" (and I LIKE Tool, I think), Blues Traveller - "Runaround", Dave Matthews Band - "Crash Into Me", Stone Temple Pilots - "Creep".

Kris, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

it would be fucking boring if "Mr. Writer" won.
sure it's an offensively shit song ... but it simply doesn't *deserve* all this hatred ... it should be ignored really.

it's certainly dull to write a dull song about (rock)writers but most importantly it's just sooooooooooo boring .......it might be even duller and even more boring for those writers to actually hate that song that much though ...

marie, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

This thread is too long - which makes it a victim of its own success. But I'm sorry to say that I don't think, in the end, that it has 'worked'.

the pinefox, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Surely its not really the point for the thread to come to any form of conclusion. The fun is in the arguing. I mean who really gave that much of a toss when Mott the Hoople won the LIKES thread.

Ed, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two months pass...
theres nothing on that list to veto. ugh

chameleon, Saturday, 13 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

This thread (deservedly) died out, but next time we do something like these, I think a new rule needs to be reintroducted:

Every veto must be accompanied by a nomination. We still probably won't get anywhere, but at least we'll be able to stop people from perversely nixing twenty nominations and not proferring anything to replace them.

Jack Redelfs, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Starsailor - Alcoholic. I can't imagine that anyone here likes it.

Melissa W, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

It made me chuckle a bit.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Good call.

Ronan, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"nothing else matters" by metallica god that song winds me up "i'm sensitive, me, i like the slow ones and everything"

bob snoom, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

seven months pass...
Love the band, but the Who's "Squeeze Box" is the most hateable song I've ever heard, and it qualifies because they think it's a "greatest hit."

Ryan, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just read through this entire thread amazed, I mean really honestly just fucking ASTONISHED that no one mentioned "I Shot The Sheriff," any version.

Also, the absolute worst song I've ever heard: "She Drives Me Crazy" by Fine Young Cannibals. It makes me want to rip my ears off.

Justyn Dillingham, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Moldy Peaches, anyone?

Prude, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

That song by Toby Keith, something like "Let's Talk About Me" or "I Wanna Talk About Me." Simply awful. "God" by Joan Osbourne? Indigo Girls, "Closer to God?" Is that what it's called? I can't stand it.

bryan, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Paul Simon - You Can Call Me Al.

cuba libre (nathalie), Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Maybe, but the Kompressor cover justifies its existence.

I nominate Momus' classic of modern ennui and normalcy-crushing aesthetics: "Where'd The Cheese Go?"

Nate Patrin, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

where'd the cheese go? is brilliant! as is you can call me al. Bootleg those two and you'd have a work of genius.

jel --, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I refuse to believe anyone here likes Ugly Kid Joe's cover of "Cats In The Cradle"

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually, I think I may have found one:

Darren Hayes - Insatiable

jel --, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Surely we can all get behind England Dan and John Ford Coley's "I'd Really Love To See You Tonight."

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hold on to your lunch, here is another sick dozen.

Phil Collins "Another Day In Paradise" Spin Doctors "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" Hootie & The Blowfish "Hold My Hand" Carly Simon "Mockingbird" Kenny Loggins "Danger Zone" Steve Perry "Oh Sherry" REO Speedwagon "I Can't Fight this Feeling" Christopher Cross “Sailing” Bon Jovi “Living On A Prayer” Warrant “Cherry Pie” Europe “The Final Countdown” BJ Thomas "Raindrops Keep Fallin on My Head" (a song I have hated since I was five)

earlnash, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Aw, "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" rules. It was one of the 2 and a half good songs the Spin Doctors ever wrote.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

OK "Danger Zone" is no "I'm Alright" (best song ever by anybody) or "Footloose", but it's nowhere near as bad as "Your Mama Don't Dance"!

dave q, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Sailing"???? Are you mad?????

Dan Perry, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

what about limp bizkit? nookie? was it ever "acclaimed"? probably not, but it's still awful.

dyson, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Bon Jovi “Living On A Prayer” Warrant “Cherry Pie” Europe “The Final Countdown”" = the three best songs ever written.

jel --, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Tie a Yellow Ribbon" by Dawn (or was it Debbie Boone?)

Lord Custos III, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

4 Non Blondes "What's Going On" or "Heyeyeyeyeyey" or whatever that fucking song is called. Awful lyrics, awful singing, awful backing, awful marketing - it's bad considered as "pop" and it's bad considered as "rock", bad bad BAD.

Shaky Mo Collier, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
Wind Up is a most excellent Jethro Tull song off of aqualung.

yes, Tie a Yellow Ribbon was Tony Orlando and Dawn.

Andrew Rodland, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four months pass...
I've done it.

There is no way no how anyone on ILM likes Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA." That is the worst song ever recorded.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mark may have done it. Though to cancel out shit from above it, I love "Nookie" "She Drives Me Crazy" (first CD I ever asked for) and Toby Keith's Me song.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:07 (twenty-two years ago) link

can't disagree.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:27 (twenty-two years ago) link

stephen malkmus did a cover of that lee greenwood song last time i saw him.

gygax!, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:28 (twenty-two years ago) link

that makes me hate the song (and Malkmus) even more. I wanna chase him with a bat screaming "mock now, ironic boy! Mock this shit right here!"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

i don't think it's very ironic when someone yells for an ironic cover and the band launches into it without missing a beat... know what i'm saying?

a better example is to attempt irony by saying something as tritefully goofy (on this bbs at least) as "plus his last few singles with N'Sync were the shiznit"... that would warrant more of a beating in my book. who's "ironic boy" now, huh? :p

gygax!, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:39 (twenty-two years ago) link

ok. Irony is in the eye of the beholder. But I was being GENUINE (seriously, N'Sync and Limp Bizkit made my day in 2001). Don't think Stephen was when he sang Lee Greenwood's hell-track. I'll scream "mock now, disingenuous boy!" instead.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

i just think if you know a song's melody and the chords and the words, and can perform them off the cuff, you have to be somewhat serious about your appreciation...

then again, i find it hard to take anyone seriously who utters "shiznit"... knowhatimsayin?

just kidding again, really i'm just wasting time right now. good night!

gygax!, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 19:48 (twenty-two years ago) link

ahem...

I do believe I have yet to see an ILMer come to the defense of Em's "Cleaning Out My Closet", so I'm saying that. Defend if you can, muahahahaha!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 20:01 (twenty-two years ago) link

Everything by Weird Al. Everything.

David Allen, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 20:15 (twenty-two years ago) link

David Allen hates accordian fun.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 20:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

Apparently there is an accordian on Miss Dynamite-ee.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 20:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can't believe no one mentioned "American Pie." Not the Madonna version either.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 22:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like "Danger Zone", "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head" and "Living on a Prayer".

I'll nominate DMB's "Ants Marching".

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 23:35 (twenty-two years ago) link

Also: "Pretty Fly (For A White Guy"

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 23:44 (twenty-two years ago) link

I figured Lee Greenwood would retire this question.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:29 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like most of the songs that have been mentioned in this thread, but not the Lee Greenwood one.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

I certainly hate Lee Greenwood.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

the Aerosmith/Britney/NSync/etc. etc. Super Bowl halftime show collaboration

Curtis Stephens, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

I do believe I have yet to see an ILMer come to the defense of Em's "Cleaning Out My Closet", so I'm saying that. Defend if you can, muahahahaha!

Without it, there would be no this. Or this. (NOTE: MP3 links.)

Steve Miller Band's "Take the Money and Run" - oy gevalt. Lee Greenwood is a clear winner but this should be ever so close. I don't even think Steve Miller fans like this one. Rapid-fire claps have never sounded worse.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 02:14 (twenty-two years ago) link

The only way I can get into Cleaning Out My Closet is to imagine that since his closet is now clean he will SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HIS MOTHER. Like Linkin Park's "In The End" I can enjoy it as My Last Bitch About A Bitch. Every other Eminem single is probably better though, except maybe "Lose Yourself (Eye Of The Whiny Tiger)"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 16:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anthony and I agree on something! Namely that "Lose Yourself" COMPLETELY FUCKING BLOWS. If you don't mind my saying.

There is in fact one brilliant version of "Cleaning Out My Closet" right here, which you'll note results from the expedient of removing the entirely shitastic original music for something completely different in tempo and feel that suits the delivery a million times better. As all good bootlegs should.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 16:56 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like "Lose Yourself" and "Cleaning Out My Closet". I'm scum.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 17:31 (twenty-two years ago) link

"God Bless The USA" -- going once...going twice...

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 13 December 2002 05:31 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is it humanly possible to like that song Lullaby by Shawn Mullins?

lou, Friday, 13 December 2002 06:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

It might be possible to like "Lullaby," but not possible to like Shawn Mullins. I hate the song too.

Patrin, you smug Minnesotan, "Take the Money and Run" rules for its sophisticated analysis of the economics involved in modern law enforcement: "[The sheriff] makes his livin' off other people's taxes." Trenchant! Or don't they have crime in your frozen wasteland?

Matt C., Friday, 13 December 2002 06:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

Bob Seger is awesome. Anita Baker? What would anyone have against Anita Baker? She is awesome.

You have to remove "Wonderful, Tonight" and most other classics because I would imagine _someone_ on ILM will be down. And England Dan and JFC are also klassic. Love Is The Answer, indeed.

I would take aim on Hootie or Spin Doctors [Little Miss Can't Be Wrong, anyone?] for ILM most-hated. Semisonic's closing time would be my guess...

BUT I was thinking of Proud To Be An American this morning. I saw it on a bumper sticker and I'm certainly NOT, so... yes... mr. g-wood in tha funkee hiz-ouse.

Winslow (winslow), Friday, 13 December 2002 07:10 (twenty-two years ago) link

actually, it's definately, definately "Babylon" by David Grey.

Winslow (winslow), Friday, 13 December 2002 07:11 (twenty-two years ago) link

Bob Seger is a million light years away from anything even remotely resembling "awesome."

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 December 2002 07:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

Bob Seger was on a bill with the MC5 and Parliament. Detroit rules. "Night Moves" bumps. "Like A Rock" is the most profitable TV music deal of all time. And while "Ole Fashioned Rock And Roll" was regrettable, it was tied to one of the most memorable scenes in modern cinema. "Live Bullet" would surprise you and "Shame on the Moon" crowned a fabulous career. Awesome.

Winslow (winslow), Friday, 13 December 2002 07:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

What about the cheez-reggae cover of "Baby I Love Your Way"? Does anyone like that?

Hullomum, Friday, 13 December 2002 07:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

Everclear - "AM Radio"

Curtis Stephens, Friday, 13 December 2002 21:56 (twenty-two years ago) link

Margafuckingritaville!

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 14 December 2002 00:41 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Saving All My Love for You" by Whitney Houston is waaaay worse than that Everclear track. I know taste is all relative and fair's fair and all, but if you like "Saving All My Love For You", I have zero respect for you.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 December 2002 00:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

*i* like saving all my love for you

BUT, alex, i seem to remember you defending kingmaker of all people when i once gave them a diss in passing, so i take your derision and return it with interest...

adam b (adam b), Sunday, 15 December 2002 00:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

*i* like saving all my love for you

That, out of all the early Whitney songs, is the one I can't stand. The omnipresence of it and "Don't You Forget About Me" in 1985 made that year a hell for my radio-obsessed self.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 December 2002 00:45 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh bloody hell. i like don't you forget about me too!

(but it's definitely the only simple minds song i do like)

adam b (adam b), Sunday, 15 December 2002 00:49 (twenty-two years ago) link

don't don't don't DON'T you tell me you don't like that excellent Bryan Ferry coulda shoulda been track, baby! Easily the best thing the Simple Minds ever did, baby!

The Whitney song is pure crap though, I'll give.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 December 2002 00:50 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anthony and Adam -- in a world where the unparalleled beauty and genius of songs like "Love Song," "The American," "This Earth That You Walk Upon," "Glittering Prize" and "New Gold Dream" exists, "Don't You Forget About Me," which I have ranted about in detail as the first song I have ever flat out thoroughly and obsessively HATED when it came out, is not even fit to be scraped off my shoe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 December 2002 00:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

At the very least you've inspired me to give my copy of Glittering Prize another chance.

Yer just mad cuz the song basically made all other mopers redundant. It's got rain coming down, dancing, vanity, insecurities, people walking on by, pondering the possibility of one's name being called, hey hey hey hey's, ooo's, woah's, baby's, and la lalala laaaa's....
Hard to beat (I might be being a BIT facetious).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 December 2002 01:01 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ever so slightly. ;-)

I should also note that, in common with much of America, "Don't You Forget About Me" was in fact the first Simple Minds song I'd ever heard. So rather than it crowding out memories of other, earlier songs in my head, it if anything turned me against the band and from wanting to investigate them further for a while.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 December 2002 01:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm gonna go on record as being very fond of "Babylon" -- there's a bunch of personal associations I have with it that aren't worth explaining.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 15 December 2002 01:10 (twenty-two years ago) link

"God Bless The USA" -- going once...going twice...
SOLD!
The line about "where at least I know I'm free" line just grates on me. But then again, I'm politically cynical.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 15 December 2002 01:59 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
The correct answer to this thread is Cliff Richard - The Millennium Prayer.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry, scrap that; I like it.

On the the hand I've never been keen on 'Saviour's Day'.

Jesus, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman - Something Stupid.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:31 (twenty years ago) link

Vanilla Ice: Ice Ice Baby

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

i agree vanilla ice:ice ice baby i hate it

Emma williams (Emma williams), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:38 (twenty years ago) link

it's 2 1/2 years after the fact, and i'm STILL astonished that someone liked "let's work"

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:45 (twenty years ago) link

"Forgiveness" Don henley

Who knew self righteousess had a theme song?

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:19 (twenty years ago) link

dan hill "sometimes when we touch"

worst song EVAH!

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

b-b-but the honesty!! it's too much!!!!

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:39 (twenty years ago) link

my mom had the single when i was a kid--torture!

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:55 (twenty years ago) link

"You ask me if I love you
and I choke on my reply.."

GOOD!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

Don'T Worry Be Happy
Walking on Sunshine
Eternal Flame
Kiss (Tom Jones covers Prince)
Disco Inferno
Muskrat Love
Love Gun
Wango Tango
Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo
Starpower
We are the Champions
Janie's Got a Gun

Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

Of the ones I've heard, I like almost all of those (the Tom Jones one being the exception)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

Slow Ride
Boris the Spider
The Man Who Sold the World
Heart Shaped Box
Dust in the Wind
Girls on Film

Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Like all them xcept Girls on film (don't hate) and Dust in the wind/Slow ride (don't know)

Also:
Don'T Worry Be Happy
Walking on Sunshine
Eternal Flame
Kiss (Tom Jones covers Prince)
Disco Inferno
like all them


It's Dan Fogelberg as the winner/loser surely?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 10:47 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still holding out hope that the person who liked Lee Greenwood was kidding

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 10:50 (twenty years ago) link

Start Me Up
Allstar
You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)
Another One Bites the Dust
Can't Touch This
Ride like the Wind
For those about to Rock We Salute You
Shiney Happy People

Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

Nothing wrong with "Start Me Up". Pretty indifferent when it comes to most of Pinche's other choices (although some of those here who are usually more into R&B/Disco than they are into Queen will probably stand up for "Another One Bites The Dust")

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:24 (twenty years ago) link

"dust in the wind" seems like a good try though. i'm in.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

I think Chuck Eddy named "Ice Ice Baby" the best song of the nineties, so no on that one.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

Second: Rock the Casbah
Rock 'em Sock 'em
Yellow Submarine
D'Yer Maker
9 to 5

Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

Mull of Kintyre?

What could there be to like?

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 22:55 (twenty years ago) link

Love Gun

By Kiss? I LOVE that song. Incredibly stupid, yes, but still a classic Classic CLASSIC CLASSIC CLASSIC! CLASSIC!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)

WHAT THE FUCK

ferg (Ferg), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

Does anyone actually like "Macarena?"

billstevejim, Thursday, 5 February 2004 03:54 (twenty years ago) link

When I was five.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 5 February 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

what was that hit that mr. "sometimes when we touch" had, like, 10 years after "sometimes when we touch"? where he had that duet with that chick? and still sounded like the BIGGEST HOMO ever?

that one.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

That was "Can't We Try," a duet with the horrible horrible horribly horrible Vonda Shepherd. Featuring the classic couplet at the bridge, "Don't let our love fade away / No matter what people say."

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 5 February 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

yeah that's the one. dan hill was the CZAR of WUSSROCK.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

I know!!!!!

I so win!

"POLLY"

Even I hate that song!

Aja (aja), Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

it does suck. but it doesn't suck as much as "can't we try" or "sometimes when we touch."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago) link

Those songs are annoying too.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago) link

"Sometimes when we touch" is too hilarious for me to hate.

I nominate the following...
Macarena - Los Del Rio
Freedom - Paul McCartney
Fuck The World - Insane Clown Posse
What's Goin On - Puff Daddy and Bono and like 40 other people, Fred Durst and J-Lo and Beyonce and Britney etc etc

billstevejim, Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago) link

Can we nominate songs only people who bought the album the song is on would know, or must it be a song that got played on the radio?

Aja (aja), Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

nominate anything, radio-play or not ... someone here's probably heard it!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

This answer goes back to my first post on ILM!

"Floaty"

Aja (aja), Thursday, 5 February 2004 04:21 (twenty years ago) link

Floaty? That sounds nice. Say more.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 February 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

Macarena - Los Del Rio

I have seen several Macarena fans here, though God knows I am certainly not among them!

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

Hmm. How about Celine Dion's "Think Twice"? Anybody here likes that one?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:18 (twenty years ago) link

Floaty? That sounds nice. Say more.

Well, this is what my first post was. I think it explains "Floaty."

This isn't BurmaKitty. This is AsiaKitty and the dumbest lyrics to any song I've ever heard are the ones to Floaty, a song by Dave Grohl.
He floats
Floats away
On the ground
He comes back down

She floats
Floats away
On the ground
She comes back down

They float
Float away
On the ground
They come back down

We float
Float away
On the ground
We come back down

That's not as big as
What's flown around here

That's the whole song and it's almost five minutes long. Not only do the lyrics sound like they were writen for a song made for little kids, the music(especially when acoustic) make you feel like you're five years old. I like Dave and Foo Fighters but, what was he thinking when he wrote this?! It's so simple and so stupid!


-- BurmaKitty (burmakitt...), March 13th, 2003.

Aja (aja), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:43 (twenty years ago) link


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